satisfactory

[prime rampart]

show me ur train station

ive been messing with it for 30mins

still nono work

[feral geyser]

I have built a grand total of 4 train stations. I am not the person you wanna ask about trains.

[prime rampart]

oh

@limpid cairn

[silk ocean]

Show me your station... baby? xD

[peak wasp]

So I was mapping out the items to their respective icons in the game files, and can I ask what happened here?

Self::TimeCrystal => "/icons/IconDesc_ExoticMatter_256.png"

[prime rampart]

could u like vc i really wanna screenshare what im trying to do

[steady glade]

i showed my train, pls respond

[reef basin]

you know you can just use the Docs.json to get the mapping? 🙂

[peak wasp]

I-

You can??

[reef basin]

also not sure what do you mean by "what happened here"

[cunning glade]

This is true

[silk ocean]

There are sites for this xD

[cunning glade]

This is so funny

[prime rampart]

THE SITES DONT HELP

[reef basin]

it has icon paths for items and stuff

also wdym by "what happened here"?

[peak wasp]

As in why the icon for the Time Crystal is called exotic matter

[cunning glade]

Id argue over 18 doesn't make u grown

[peak wasp]

Were they swapped at some point?

[silk ocean]

I'm going to let you into a secret. A SuperSecret. It's not about stations. There is a button usually on the left side of the keyboard. It usually says something like "CAPS LOCK". Try pressing it xD

[cunning glade]

Alot of people ik are still 20 or 30 and act like children

[reef basin]

there's like half of the icons that have different names

[prime rampart]

no pls help

[reef basin]

no reason to rename the filename if item is changed in the future (or if item has yet-undecided name)

[silk ocean]

What exactly do you need help with?

[peak wasp]

Yeah but most were like spelling mistakes or word order difference, this one really stood out as referencing a completely different file altogether. I just thought it was interesting as it kinda looked like a mistake.

I for example particularly love how none of the files can agree on the spelling for aluminum.

[prime rampart]

let me vc

its to hard to explain this concept

[reef basin]

filenames are irrelevant anyway. Nothing says it has to be named as the item

[silk ocean]

wtf is vc, just explain the problem

[prime rampart]

voice chat

[half ingot]

there are no vc channels in this server

[prime rampart]

dms r something

[silk ocean]

Not doing that. You have a keyboard, write

[reef basin]

we don't do that here (and isn't ideal for help anyway)

just make a thread in #1038092680493801533, describe your problem, attach screenshots

[peak wasp]

Not saying it is wrong, just kinda neat and funny to me

[prime rampart]

oh god

[silk ocean]

I'm listening to music, not getting into some voice chat

Write your problem

[tawdry charm]

2GB left oh my god...

[reef basin]

voice chat doesn't make sense anyway - you talk to explain your problem and then the person says "sorry, can't help with that" and you have to do it again with next person, and next person, until you get to someone who may help

and nobody else can get the help from it, because it was in voice, not in text

[prime rampart]

look at the thingy

[silk ocean]

It's usually console users who gravitate to voice because they have such a terrible interface they can't usually easily type.. at least from my experience with friends

[feral geyser]

A lot of PC players also use VCs

[half ingot]

ok fine, ill bite, send me a dm and ill try to help

[feral geyser]

But it makes sense that they don't wanna deal with extra moderation issues from that in here

[cunning glade]

Did the guy figure out his signal issue

[silk ocean]

Kinda annoys me this whole console release. It's just money imo. I thought CSS was a PC refuge away from the curse of consoles. Might have to find another studio now xD

I am a PC purist xD

[peak wasp]

Just found them! Thanks for letting me know this can save me so much time ;w;

[cunning glade]

Wym

[silk ocean]

I don't like consoles

[cunning glade]

Why

[silk ocean]

I just believe that PC gaming is the only gaming

[cunning glade]

So unless u spend at least 1k on a setup u aren't gaming

Actually I'd argue console is better for gaming than PC

[silk ocean]

Yep. You want to game, that is the entry price

[shrewd palm]

1k on a pc might as well just be a console

[glad drum]

in that case, phones are even better

[silk ocean]

Not these crappy little consoles and phones

It makes me vomit xD

[cunning glade]

Consoles ain't bad🤷

[glad drum]

Phones are the cheapest and simplest avenue if you want to get into gaming

[cunning glade]

I joined PC on the 6900xt after the series x

Both felt the same tbh

Only difference I have more games

Which is shrinking and that's good

Consoles are amazing for tv gaming

[elfin trellis]

console gaming is awful change my mind

[cunning glade]

By this logic u aren't gaming unless ur on a tv cuz u have a shit display with shit HDR

[silk ocean]

Video Gaming is on PC, anything else is just "app play" or whatever you want to call it. It's not real video gaming which is a love of your game and hardware, that is real video gaming

[cunning glade]

What

[velvet idol]

we gatekeeping gaming now

[cunning glade]

Ig so

[glad drum]

always have been

[cunning glade]

This is why PC people have always been losers

[leaden turret]

if you buy a pre-built, mass-produced pc, it's effectively a console

[peak wasp]

This quickly devolved into a weirdly charged discussion about how people render pixels onto a display

[velvet idol]

if you don't mine your own silicon and build your own CPU from scratch, you're not a real gamer

[glad drum]

Xbox Game Pass makes console gaming WAY more interesting for people with only a small budget each month for entertainment - why try and save up thousands for a PC when they can get a 2nd hand Xbox and throw a few bucks a month at Microsoft to give em a ton of games

they don't wanna spend 40 hours gaming each week, they just want like 1-2 hours every other night

[silk ocean]

Video gaming is the love of everything. It's not just plugging in some faceless box. It's about building the PC, loving the PC, caring for the hardware and software, installing games, managing games, configuring settings, upgrading hardware. Video gaming is a love that you do not get with a console box. There is far more to this than that. It's a passion, a love of life.

[peak wasp]

Only argument I could see is stable pricing and ownership, but even then you could argue that Steam is not really owning games

[velvet idol]

video gaming is the love of playing video games

[glad drum]

OK then your idea of video gaming is different than most, all the power to you to enjoy it that way though

[leaden turret]

reminder: pointless discussions about gaming form factor is #off-topic-general

[glad drum]

mb ty Marv

[silk ocean]

I'm in a relative minority for sure

[elfin trellis]

i mean i've been a PC gamer my whole life, bought PS5 cuz i was hypedto have one
played 10 hours and gave it to my friend, been a year already or more

i cant understand how people play with a fkin controller

[cunning glade]

Tbh console gaming is just better u don't have too deal with cheating

[shy mulch]

Ah yes, consoles, famous for having zero cheats ever

[glad drum]

I took it to general cause Marv is right

[silk ocean]

For anyone that deeply, inherently cares about video games, the history, the fundamental principles, you would never buy a console. I certainly haven't, and never will do

[cunning glade]

I mean yeah after u get a PC console becomes not really needed but before u get one it's amazing and with it Xbox fusing with steam for game platform not many game su won't find

[plain marten]

man i didnt know that nuclear plants would take so long to fill up with the rods. its been hours and theres still plants that dont get fuel rods from the manifold

[glad drum]

oof yeah manifold is not good for nuclear

much better to load balance

[cunning glade]

I don't think I ever had issues with them unless it was a super old game and that was over a like 9 year period

[cunning glade]

Yeah cuz u didn't grow up playing them

[plain marten]

well imean manifold is good, its not like i can build a factory that consumes more than an entire nuclear plants within hours. by that time the manifold will be filled

[silk ocean]

Oh I absolutely did, I just made a decision a long time ago that console is a pile of tosh and PC is the way to go

[leaden turret]

-# ᶦᶠ ʸᵒᵘ ᶜᵃⁿ ʳᵉᵃᵈ ᵗʰᶦˢ ʸᵒᵘ'ʳᵉ ˢᵘᶠᶠᶦᶜᶦᵉⁿᵗˡʸ ᵇᵒʳᵉᵈ ᵇʸ ᵗʰᵉ ᵒᶠᶠ⁻ᵗᵒᵖᶦᶜ ᶜᵒⁿᵛᵉʳˢᵃᵗᶦᵒⁿ ᶦⁿ ᵗʰᵉ ᵒⁿ⁻ᵗᵒᵖᶦᶜ ᶜʰᵃⁿⁿᵉˡ

[shrewd palm]

I’ve just been using smart splitters set to overflow so that reactors can only fill after the one in front of them is full. Seems to be more consistent than regular splitters

[plain marten]

eh both take similar time to get filled up

id assume

[cunning glade]

How big are blenders compared to manufacturers

[plain marten]

i think theyre a little smaller

[cunning glade]

Would 26 take up a decent amount of space then?

[shrewd palm]

About the same footprint but not as tall

[plain marten]

yeah and load balancers are completely alien tech to me at this point. the last time i made one was hundreds of hours ago at the start of my game when i didnt know manifolds existed, tried to build one, then found out about manifolds and never made load balancers ever again

[cunning glade]

Perfect

[steady glade]

piping would take a few more meters, but they are slighty smaller

[cunning glade]

Making big aluminum plant I want blenders too be kinda the center piece

Trying too think of how

Which since I'm not playing doesn't really help but my brain says think about it

[steady glade]

make a 2 sided block

[cunning glade]

Fair the main issue is placing the other machines

[plain marten]

how many people use sushi belts and smart splitters for assemblers and manufacturers and basically everything else always? because recently i found out that people dont do that??

i put everything into the sushi belt. i merge outputs of machines back into sushi belts

[tawdry forge]

I had a lot of stuff to do IRL and I missed the birthday party. If I change my computer's date, can I still see that content?

[cunning glade]

I like sushi belts for computers

I think they have there uses

And look cool I just sink it cuz idk how too do the loop back maybe im dumb tho

[plain marten]

yeha i like it for everything. all of my factories use the sushi belt. every. single. one. my latest nuclear plant uses too except i had to remove it for the nuclear waste stuff because it clogged

[glad drum]

I used to never do it. I'd just put all parts into their own container then link the container directly to the manufacturers/assemblers. This allows it to just fill them up and all the overflow stay in the box ---- if I made it sushi, I have to do more work

I'm only doing it now for fun

[cunning glade]

I have too fit 224 buildings around 26 blenders

[plain marten]

how would sushi need more work??

sushi is simpler, its just one conveyor and smart spillers

[cunning siren]

There is like one sushi belt in this thing: #screenshots message auto-sorts slugs and remains

Handy to min max as moving stuff makes one lose resources every time it's used in this situation

[glad drum]

Well, you'd need to first use a SS to send some to storage, then split off some to the sushi belt with a merger, then set up all the smart splitters with overflow and each item

Whereas mine is just... Stuff come out, go in box, come out box, go to machine

All I have to think about is how much stuff I'm making

[leaden turret]

since there's a ficsmas mod, there's probably a birthday mod

[glad drum]

Though, I do have to place more belts overall

[plain marten]

no need for storage

[white dawn]

Heh, yeah, checking to see if there's a mod is probably your better option, but changing your system date should work too

[cunning siren]

What happens when one changes their system time back to when it's "birthday"?

[white dawn]

(The main downside of changing system date is that you can run into SSL verification problems (and other related things) since that stuff is time-sensitive)

[plain marten]

heres my latest sushi belt #screenshots message

[white dawn]

Should just re-enable the event. Past events are always just local-system-clock based

[unkempt blade]

time traveling is no joke, you might cause a paradox and doom us all

[glad drum]

Why?

[white dawn]

(Well, maybe not always. I seem to think the first FICSMAS was hardcoded to CET or something? Though it was still your local clock being used, even if it was ignoring your system timezone)

[plain marten]

because the machines have space

i mean its a problem if you have one train which comes once every 10 minutes or something

but havent faced that

[glad drum]

Do you not want to keep a few of the item on hand in case you need it to build stuff? if you have that completely separate then, I guess I agree - but even building the separate factory to do that is "more work"

[plain marten]

i have factories that make each item and in a peak efficiency factory there wouldnt be much of that item made

[glad drum]

Ah yeah now I get where you're coming from - definitely more work to play it that way.

"work" - more game time lmao

[dusk star]

How do you guys fill empty space in a factory?

I just built a big factory and I got like 50 % of emptiness

[glad drum]

Vending machines!

[dusk star]

Maybe I’ll expand once I get faster belts

[plain marten]

i just remove every foundation that has nothing on it and i tend to build my factories very densely

[plucky flower]

Just had a weird bug while purchasing steel pipes and quickwire

Dont have the time to report it now

[dusk star]

I’ve already built the outside lol

[plain marten]

ok add a dense catwalk network or something

[dusk star]

It’s my new steel plant and steel production doesn’t take up a lot of space

However I need to train in more 😭

[plain marten]

i really like making densely packed factories that sort of look organic and messy but i havent perfected the style yet, mine look a little too orderly still

i should add more catwalk sprawling or something

[dusk star]

I used to do that

Now i build bigger

[plain marten]

this kind of factory is something i watn to make https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1h5ltsd/i_will_not_rest_until_ive_covered_every_last/#lightbox

[dusk star]

That’s hell

[plain marten]

i love it

[dusk star]

It’s nice I agree lol

[plain marten]

its so dense

[cunning siren]

If I dip my refineries in the water a bit can I overclock them more? 😆 Why build over water when you can build IN IT! 🤔

[feral geyser]

I just imagine you building a refinery underwater, and air bubbles come up out of it like you're filling a water pistol 😂

[cunning siren]

I may build the refinery "deep" enough to align perfectly with the water extractors output 😆 for the lulz

[mortal ginkgo]

if you put your refineries in water, you dont need to provide water for the recipe anymore.

You can trust me on this 100%. Just make sure to make a 100 refinery setup and fully decorate it to the brim.

also make sure trains and railroads are done as well

or else this wont work yes.

[cunning siren]

I would totally do that if it worked this way 😆

[half ingot]

linustechtipspilled

[earnest oak]

wth is phase 4 i just unlocked this it cannot be reakl

also what should i doordash im hungry??

[unkempt blade]

this is the monkey paw curling when someone wishes for mk3 pipes isn't it?

[mortal ginkgo]

we need mk4 pipes

[cunning siren]

Did you know the average pioneer stays late at work because they care about humanity? 🤢 🤮 Not THIS pioneer 😆

[mortal ginkgo]

bro dont know what phase 5 asks for and he will lose it when he sees it 😭😭😭

[mortal ginkgo]

there are times I was almost late at work due to playing satisfactory tho

[frozen shoal]

fuck phase 5 I haven't even bothered wit h it yet. I'm not ready to stab my brain yet

[unkempt blade]

pad thai extra tofu

[cunning siren]

Just unlocked phase 4 here too! #UnlockBros

[feral geyser]

Butter chicken

[half ingot]

pioneers who truly care about humanity dedicate their time to collecting alien artifacts

[mortal ginkgo]

its ok you can check what fisconium fuel rod needs and stab it anyway 😭

[cunning siren]

At any and all costs to their mental wellbeing

[frozen shoal]

I already did and said, nope I rather play in traffic during rush hour.

[mortal ginkgo]

hehe

[frozen shoal]

some of the requirements for things arae insanity.

[earnest oak]

That's even if I finish phase 4😭

[frozen shoal]

thank god I know UE and can just modify the code to only require 1 of anything. thanks Devs for using UE.

[earnest oak]

Lame ngl

Just use creative atp

[mortal ginkgo]

eh. that aint fun for me but you do you

[half ingot]

HARVEST IT

[mortal ginkgo]

dont let the phase finish you instead bro 😭

[earnest oak]

Aii bro that's gonna help me out a ton

Day by day trust one thing be every day

[frozen shoal]

I get the same enjoyment tbh. altering code to see how far you can go b4 fucking the game is a challenge in itself.

[mortal ginkgo]

meanwhile I am happy that I got 600mw coal power before going to work

the feeling of getting rid of burners is amazing

[frozen shoal]

I'll go to work for you if you work on phase 5 for me?

[earnest oak]

i got almost 10k with whatver the next thing is

[mortal ginkgo]

my work might be worse than this. careful what you wish for

[earnest oak]

i probably should unlock trains right

[mortal ginkgo]

you should have been the moment you entered phase 3

[frozen shoal]

bro, I own a mental health clinic. your work will be a cake walk.

[earnest oak]

everything is close to me like so there was no need for it

[mortal ginkgo]

i work in a global airlines operation center. all passengers are mental in my eyes. get on my lvl lil broh 👍

[earnest oak]

i just use the hypertubes and launch myself

[unkempt blade]

that's when you build a loop around your little region and just have the train drive in a circle 24x7 for the love of trains

[earnest oak]

for what purpose 😭

[unkempt blade]

trains are their own purpose!

[earnest oak]

i still havnt unlocked the tractor let alone the train

[frozen shoal]

LOL I'm being serious. would you like to show you my NPI and caqh ID?

[white dawn]

Heh, yeah, I don't mod satisfactory but I get that 100%. I generally get as much (or more) satisfaction working on outside-game coding as I do on the game itself, when I get involved with that kind of thing. :D

[earnest oak]

i need the inventor slots so i probably should

[unkempt blade]

why do you hate fun so much?

[earnest oak]

i just build factories not vehiclkes

[white dawn]

(Of course with Satisfactory I do write my own factory solvers, so there's that. :D)

[unkempt blade]

yeah that's why I was asking

[earnest oak]

I just use belt highways yk

[cunning siren]

TIL: Using the Dismantle Mode + Mouse over is a good way to see what is inside containers machines and what machines are producing 🤔

[elfin trellis]

do u guys use any addons for Satisfactory or DysonSphereProgram as in tools to help with factories 'n shit?

[earnest oak]

works but may look ugly

[mortal ginkgo]

i never said I wasnt serious either. sometimes some sane people act like truly mental. at least you know your patients ARE mental.

for example I might look sane, but spent 170hours in game decorating my base at phase 1.

fayt me lil bro

[mortal ginkgo]

i use qol addons for DSP

[frozen shoal]

haha nice, someone gets it. I like to break things then fix it. just lke for our clinic. I said fuck paying someone else for their EMR and wrote our own.

[unkempt blade]

vanilla only the way god and nature intended for us to play

[elfin trellis]

like what

[elfin trellis]

i meant not ingame addons, but like tools that u use somewhere not ingame

[earnest oak]

wikll only try mods after i beat the game 100%

and optimize everything so that it is 100%

[unkempt blade]

I use a 4 function calculator and a beautiful mind wall

[earnest oak]

every building
every production item
all the power in the world
infinite sized builds
every single item possible max in dimensional depot

[frozen shoal]

Cheat engine is the best tool to use to mod any UE game that doesn't have A.C. load the game in CE get a UE dumper than dumb the game code and go to town.

games like this allow you to use 3rd party tools like CE.

[mortal ginkgo]

bptweaks and anything that helps on performance. anyway this is satiafactory only section so stopping there.

gotta work too so bai

[frozen shoal]

have a good day at work

[earnest oak]

chooo chooo motherfu**er bro what is this game

[dawn path]

are there any mods for deleting a zoop action? for example:
if i use zoop to build a 10x10 area of foundations, is there a mod that lets me simply delete that one zoop function and get rid of all the foundations?

(or atleast a mod that makes mass deleting 7.2k+ foundations a bit more bearable 🙃)

[cunning siren]

An "undo" feature would be great

[dawn path]

absolutely

or a more "mass" mass deconstruct

[cunning siren]

I guess to get certain alts I need to unlock the stuff in the tier list 🤔 maybe I'll wait to turn in these hard drives

[unkempt blade]

so uhhh I don't have a suggestion but I am curious how you got to that many foundations before realizing you had a mistake

[dawn path]

oh i dont have a mistake yet... i'm just very very worried lmao

i've got infinite zoop which makes it piss easy to place countless foundations, but in the case that i have to remove them later? phew

[unkempt blade]

ahh, I just use regular zoop + square blueprints for my foundationing

the BPs are nice because I delete the entire square at once if I need to though

[dawn path]

square BPs are wayy too inefficient for this project unfortunately 😞

compared to inf zoop at least

[cunning siren]

If we compare Factorio's blueprint system to this one, it's painfully obvious improvements can be made to this one 🤷. I have yet to mess with mods though, maybe that's already a thing? 🤔

[unkempt blade]

I think the intent of the two games is different, factorio goes much harder on logistics stuff and satisfactory has more design elements

[dawn path]

yeah you can tell coffee stain wasn't thinking of us stupidly ambitious players who want to place blueprints en masse 😓

i guess thats why some people have made mods for gigantic BP designers

[unkempt blade]

factorio/dsp logistics are at an entirely different scale than satisfactory does for logistics so the bigger/fancier BPs can make sense

[reef basin]

if we compare the two games, we can see they are vastly different and going for different feels and such

SF was even perfectly fine without blueprints imo

[unkempt blade]

I appreciate BPs for some of the more repetitive stuff and for making stuff prettier without tons of detail effort but I just can't imagine stamping a super factory down because there's really only room for a couple of them with some resource types then the game is just "done"

[frail sleet]

A lot of basic shit though like a module to process part of a bauxite node just doesn't fit in blueprints

it makes the mid-lategame much harder and more tedious than it should be, in a bad kind of way, when you're encouraged to build the same thing for the 10'th time but it takes 10 minutes to copy it perfectly instead of 10 seconds.

[reef basin]

it fits into multiple bluerprints which you can chain

[white dawn]

Another good reason to use different recipe chains as you build out new factories! :D

[unkempt blade]

I actually had a 3x3 that did bauxite => aluminum ingots. I haven't updated it for the new sizes to see if I could fit the whole thing in there but I'd think it's possible #screenshots message

there was room left in the 3x3 though so I'd think it's possible

[cunning siren]

I forget how handy hoverpack is for building stuff. So painful to not have a good viewing angle while nudging holograms. Hoverpack fixes that 100%

[limber plaza]

hey bro u recommend sloppy alumina or alumina solution for aluminum factory?

debating on using silica or not

[surreal lily]

i have a few separate power grids that are perfectly tuned - so if I touch anywhere near those with my hoverpack it shorts my whole system out - even if I'm not using it/grounded.

[hard ivy]

that sounds like an awful design lol

[cunning siren]

That sounds like a bad plan AND maybe thats ok? You do you

[feral geyser]

That is bad

[surreal lily]

I just like failsafes!

[white dawn]

Depends on available resources. I wasn't kidding when I said that I like using different production chains; for aluminum for me it generally boils down to what resources happen to be nearby

[feral geyser]

That sounds more like failcauses

[white dawn]

I tend to max out one bauxite node at a time, and each one's just a separate factory. So in a playthrough I'll end up using multiple ways to make aluminum

[feral geyser]

You know priority power switches are a thing, right?

[hard ivy]

that's the opposite of having failsafes

[limber plaza]

recources arent the issue i can use silica ik its more work its how i usually build aluminum but i never made it without silica seems like its less aluminum unless im wrong

[surreal lily]

my waterpump or truck stations will never turn off (as long as I keep my hoverpack away from it). 100w is quite a bit for the minimal load I want.

[hard ivy]

nothing in my world ever turns off, even if I put on a hoverpack?

[limber plaza]

hey bro u seen the pics of our blueprints combined worked perfectly up to 8k power with just that power added i was at 3k before

[white dawn]

Right, using Pure Aluminum gives you fewer ingots per bauxite than using silica on the vanilla

It's an ore-efficiency-versus-convenience thing

[feral geyser]

Where at?

[limber plaza]

dms

[white dawn]

Generally if I've got quartz conveniently-enough nearby then I'll stick with vanilla, but if not I'll end up with Pure

[hard ivy]

all alts vs all defaults both have the same efficiency

[white dawn]

Pretty situational, personally

[surreal lily]

I'm getting there! currently struggling with output loads of fuel and such. I need to redesign my whole setup - I know. But it's a lot

[limber plaza]

if overclocked yes correct?

[hard ivy]

overclocking has nothing to do with bauxite efficiency?

[limber plaza]

no i mean as far as ingot output

[past vale]

someone wanna play cz/sk 120 hours?

[reef basin]

#1201555265942724758

[prime rampart]

who could help me with this simple fix?

[white dawn]

doctors hate this one simple fix!

[reef basin]

you know it's kinda problematic for us to figure out what fix do you need to help with if you don't tell us 🙂

[frail sleet]

If you want to use silica, use sloppy and add silica. If you don't, use sloppy and don't add it.

[limber plaza]

yeah only problem with that is how many constructers ima need unless i overclock or find limestone and foundry it

[frail sleet]

cheap silica is gud

[limber plaza]

i dont even have it i thought i did

HD farm it is

is mk3 blueprint designer now tier9?

[frail sleet]

yeah

[limber plaza]

that sucks

[cunning siren]

I did not realize how much frustration with the early game was... "Not have hover-pack" 😆

[frail sleet]

yeah, i came to realise that i kinda hate some things about the early game (P1-P2) after playing for a while. So much missing QOL.

[limber plaza]

why did they move mk3 till tier 9 smh

[steady glade]

for the huge machines

just to ensure that any machine fits at least once into the designer

[green fiber]

so they can once again use ADA to laugh at you and tell you "cant use the smaller sizes? skill issue"

[white dawn]

They didn't move it there per se. The mk3 designer (and mk2 designer) didn't even exist until 1.0, which is when Tier 9 was added. It's always been there

[limber plaza]

swear i seen it before

[white dawn]

Nope

[limber plaza]

or was it just one and it was bigger

[white dawn]

There have been plenty of mods which add bigger designers, but pre-1.0 the biggest was the mk1

[limber plaza]

ive never used mods

[white dawn]

Then your memory of them is just a bit shaky, is all. :) https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Blueprint_Designer#History

[limber plaza]

only played once with a friend who gave up early and i got to nuclear alone pre 1.0 this is my second run through alone

[west torrent]

Is it possible to place objects with greater rotation when placing them on foundations? Everything always snaps to 90 degree rotations; but I can freely rotate those same objects when placed on open terrain.

[frail sleet]

hold ctrl

[west torrent]

Doesn't change anything

The "snap mode" text hightlights when I press the key; but it still snaps to 90 degree rotations when placing on foundations

[white dawn]

Does ctrl-holding only work for the actual foundations in vanilla? Don't recall

[proper hound]

Try entering hold mode and rotate then. I think it allows rotating in 10 deg increments then (but it could be mod addon, try and see)

[frail sleet]

are you in blueprint snap mode? Because it doesn't work the same there

other than that, i don't really remember how my controls work specifically, but i rotate stuff on foundations all the time.

[magic valley]

How accurate are the throughput counters? Either my math and build have something very wrong I am missing, or these things suck?

[reef basin]

I wouldn't trust them 100%, since they only average over a fixed period of time

[feral geyser]

They're usually pretty good, especially if you have stable flow.

[cunning siren]

HELP! the fungus in this game are eating my constructors!!! #screenshots message

[unkempt blade]

Never trust a number. Numbers are liars

[cunning siren]

The game feels so much more relaxed with hover-pack 🤔 Maybe I'll cheat one in next play through AND be 100% fine with it 😆

[feral geyser]

What the hell???

[cunning siren]

I'm guessing you run DX12

"Added features of DX11"

[feral geyser]

I'm pretty sure I still have dx11, never seen that

[cunning siren]

IDK maybe it's something else

[sullen gull]

Yeah, there is a few places on the map that do that unfortunately. One perticular is in the SAM/quartz gave in the Rocky Desert

[cunning siren]

Yep, that's where it's at

[sullen gull]

You can see me point it it towards the end of this one: #screenshots message

[real shale]

guys

spaghetti, that is all

[sullen gull]

Nevaaaah! 😏

Or, I should say, at least none that is "visible" 🤣

Anyhow, Heya all o/

[real shale]

your factory has now become....SPAGHETTI

[nocturne condor]

UGH I have been putting it off and off for way too long. i actually need to go and automate versatile framework and automated wiring now

[sullen gull]

They're not too bad.

[cunning siren]

Last night I started to make belt skyway in crystal cave and admitted that a train would be much simpler in this situation 😆 TL:DR I have a train now 🤷

[nocturne condor]

Oh no they dont look bad. the real issue is finding a place to set it up. also that to do this I might need to actually do truck automation stuff to make it easier

[rigid glen]

Do have friends and family, I feel like this game has consumed you lol

[sullen gull]

How many are you trying to go for?

[cunning siren]

Maybe to both, I'll think about that after this train is setup 🤔

Or the next thing...

[sullen gull]

Hey now, don'tchu worry about what we do when we do what we do 🤣

[nocturne condor]

What i usually go for, i just start with 1 machines worth, maybe 2 depending on what the ratios of base ores to machines look like (like if its 0.5 iron ore production to 1 machine as an example) start with 1 and see what it looks like, maybe 2

[sullen gull]

Ahh, yeah, that's a good way to do it.

[feral geyser]

Not a bad way to do it

[noble sand]

[nocturne condor]

tbh im putting it off longer but filling up my dimensional depots with stuff lol, just lots of small stacks i dont want clogging stuff up

[feral geyser]

Tbh, just upload everything g to the depot

Even stacks of ore and ingots

[nocturne condor]

thats what im doing actually

[feral geyser]

That way you can craft stuff out and about

[nocturne condor]

the big point is im just putting off doing the next big project with this

[rigid glen]

Why not just have the crafted items on hand instead

on hand/in depot*

[feral geyser]

I mean, even then, there's still no reason not have ores and ingots

Plus, early game before you have a ton of depots, you might not have that

[rigid glen]

debatable, but mostly opinion rathan objective fact, so who cares

[sullen gull]

For me, I always put an ISC with a DD on top, and have a smart splitter behind set to just send over flow to the sink. This way, every thing stays purring, and when I end up using those items for buillding, it just fills the container right up (after filling DD), and it's great. I never run out of anything, nor do I ever have to go back to any "storage" area to "fill up"

[unkempt blade]

The depot is just a crutch. You shouldn't use it unless you want to be a weak pioneer

[sullen gull]

Shh you ... no siren for a week!

[nocturne condor]

Ada would disapprove of this, it increases efficiency. less time walking back and forth, less time needing to resupply means more time in the field expanding

[rigid glen]

Many console users don't have PCs, why not expand your potential audience?

[silk ocean]

"Many" but how actual many?

[rigid glen]

Look at the name, they aren't serious lol

[feral geyser]

They said earlier, purism

[unkempt blade]

back in my day I jetpacked uphill both ways to the factory with an inventory full of steel beams and it's why I am the man I am today (with amazing mechanical legs that stop traffic)

[silk ocean]

Because it is a huge amount of work?

[rigid glen]

Many, tablets have pushed the PC market WAAAAY down

[nocturne condor]

Ada still dissaproved

[rigid glen]

You don't have to do it, what do you care?

[sullen gull]

I mean ... I got about a month of that 🤣 Wasn't aware the DD's were coming and was building a giant storage area/sorter lol

[rigid glen]

And it's already done, double who cares

[unkempt blade]

building malls also builds character so you're better off for it

[sullen gull]

Naaah, there are other much more intense builds that fill that character part 🤣

[unkempt blade]

like the 800 biofuel gen array so you can ignore all other power options

[nocturne condor]

Ah yes, using high tech anlien technology to upload checks my dimensional depot leaves

[rigid glen]

dead bodies and slugs

[sullen gull]

Well, I was doing some quakulations.. and I am looking at 786 fuel gens ... Not sure how many npp's yet though .... tl;dr it's gonna be fun 😛

[unkempt blade]

yeah so 800 just to give you a little bit of buffer for when the trains start and stop

[silk ocean]

I just wish we can have a studio that will not compromise

PC only

[sullen gull]

That's what ISC's and fluid buffers are for 😏

[sullen gull]

Why? What is so wrong with a studio "diversifying?" and wanting to reach a wider audience who don't own PC's but they do have consoles?

[unkempt blade]

I agree, controller support only even for PC so they can focus more time on features like the mk2 factory cart and less time on extraneous control schemes

[white dawn]

What's "compromising" about supporting consoles?

[unkempt blade]

mostly no switch support, what sort of loser even owns a PS5?

[silk ocean]

I don't like console, it typically brings casuals, kids, childish behaviour, and none of these users know what it means to build, run, respect a PC. They just join, play quit. I don't like it. The whole part of PC gaming is more than just the game

[nocturne condor]

satisfactory? on switch? it might explode

[rigid glen]

This is primarily a solo or friends game, that fear is highly unfiounded

These are big emotions for a console port that barely or doesn't affect you

[sullen gull]

Tell that to the gang who is having (or had) the 64 person mutltiplayer factory cart race 😏

[rigid glen]

That has nothing to dfo with my general statement :/

[silk ocean]

Imo you have to buy your PC, build it, love it, to really have a respect for the games you run on it. Buying some shitty console off the shelf is not the way

[white dawn]

Heh, I have a hard time responding to that without heating up the temperature of the discussion, so I'll leave it mostly alone. But in the end: that is your opinion about consoles. I still don't see how CSS or Satisfactory are somehow "compromised" by making their game available on another platform

[rigid glen]

Oy vey, you must be a hoot at parties

[nocturne condor]

I believe I now have max stacks in my dimensional depots of everything I actively have automated

[unkempt blade]

I mean... you're on discord on a public server... That's a large part of the audience for any game

[sullen gull]

The one thing I still can't understand, after all these years, that individuals feel that things HAVE to be a certain way because that is how they want it 🤷‍♂️

[sullen gull]

It's cool, I went there 😏

[silk ocean]

Fair opinions, but I really think that if you want to respect the games you play, you have to build and install the hardware and software. Maybe I am weird, I probably am totally weird, but by just going out and buying a console box, you are missing out on a hugely important part of video gaming

[unkempt blade]

Just sounds like gatekeeping to me

[white dawn]

Heh, I guess I'll slightly raise the temperature after all, but: Neither this game nor CSS needs that kind of gatekeeping

I've literally never owned a console, so it's not like I've got skin in this game, but that kind of elitism is never worth it

[unkempt blade]

that being said, the only true way to enjoy satisfactory is using hundreds of factory carts as your primrary logistical solution

[sullen gull]

Lol, I have a 360MW2 ed, P2, and PS4 acting as bookends on a shelf 🤣

[unkempt blade]

my chili is just about done and my house smells amazing which has given me at least 200GW of extra power

[silk ocean]

It's not just Satisfactory, I'm talking about a lifelong career of video games

It's not just Satisfactory, I am talking about life

[rigid glen]

It's elitist and privileged and small minded. Gaming isn't the small thing it used to be.

[silk ocean]

I've been video gaming on PC for 35 years

[sullen gull]

But, all that you're really doing is automatically excluding every single other person who isn't "you"

[sullen gull]

But do you Mudd on a BBS bro

[rigid glen]

I miss MUSH servers

[silk ocean]

It's not elitist or privileged. You have to stop this mentality

[sullen gull]

Saying that everyone should feel a specific way because of how it has made you feel is extremely close-minded unfortunately.

[silk ocean]

How many times have you wasted money on a holiday, a girlfriend, a car ?

I don't spend money on any of that

[nocturne condor]

Wait how am i drinking coffee through my helmet?

[unkempt blade]

if you're not even designing your own hardware from scratch can you even call yourself a real gamer?

[rigid glen]

and ignored, what a weird hill to die on

[rigid glen]

You're not, the coffee never depletes

[sullen gull]

Ahh, but then do the face-palm action, and realize that the camera seems to be in your chest .......

[silk ocean]

Well I can pretty much say you have wasted more money than me

[sullen gull]

What color is your bugatti bro!?

[white dawn]

I'm probably not a real gamer either because my PC is currently like 8 years old. 😭

[silk ocean]

My car is 16 years old, and it runs perfectly because I care for it, like everything else I own

[sullen gull]

You should feel much shame ....

[white dawn]

Oh, constantly

[unkempt blade]

I bet you don't even program your own drivers, what a poser

[rigid glen]

Mine too,

[rigid glen]

Sure, but unrelated to gaming 🙂

[white dawn]

Anyway, enough of that from me; we're just kind of feeding the beast now

[sullen gull]

Harsh

[rigid glen]

#truth

[sullen gull]

@white dawn is a very respectable person tyvm

[white dawn]

But yeah: we don't need no gatekeeping here. I'm personally thrilled that more people are gonna have the opportunity to play and fall in love with this game

[silk ocean]

All I am saying, lesson for life, care for what you own, look after things and they might look after you

[nocturne condor]

Oh okay so even 1 machines worth running at 100% of versatile framework is a LOT of iron ore

[sullen gull]

Lmao, I mean, sound advice, but totally left field compared to rhetoric before 😏

[silk ocean]

Is it?

[nocturne condor]

You just splash it back on yourself

[nocturne condor]

its actually just so old you are trying to drink it but its more like jello at this point

[rigid glen]

I assume it's now just a slime mold living in the cup, which is also why it never spills 🙂

[silk ocean]

As a PC purist, Console just pisses me off. Sorry but it just does. Who is actually going to play Satisfac on these peasant boxes anyway. Just annoys me. At least they won't be able to connect to PC dedi servers

[white dawn]

Maybe drop it? CSS are clearly not PC purists, and Satisfactory is going cross-platform whether or not you "approve"

[silk ocean]

I should learn to be more tolerant

[feral geyser]

Cope

[ionic forge]

Am I not able to put a splitter on lift

[feral geyser]

You can

[ionic forge]

Maybe im too close to a wall 🤔

[feral geyser]

It has to match direction wherever you snap it

[white dawn]

You can attach splitters to the middle of lifts, but I don't think they auto-attach to the end, yeah? (Edit: bzzt, I'm wrong. Nevermind.)

[feral geyser]

They do

[white dawn]

(though I still haven't really played in v1.1 yet; I may be wrong about that)

Oh, heh. Nevermind me then.

[feral geyser]

Since pre 1.1

[feral geyser]

Shouldn't matter

Send a clip or a screenshot

[white dawn]

? - You sure about that? No mods, etc?

[feral geyser]

Absolutely certain

[white dawn]

... hm.

[ionic forge]

I got it, it was too close to a conveyor floor hole

[feral geyser]

That would do it

[ionic forge]

Yeha

Im splitting copper plates into 2 floors to use a full 120 i/m, needed that splitter

[silk ocean]

But how do you actually play Satisfac with a controller, blows my mind

[feral geyser]

Blocks snapping to lift heads has been a thing as long as I have played it, snapping them to the midsection of lifts is new 1.1 though

[silk ocean]

Surely most consoles will use keyb and mouse

[sullen gull]

It's done, it works for them, How's your factories coming?

[feral geyser]

Bruh

[ionic forge]

I hope it gets added to the switch2, no games on it

[silk ocean]

How do you write into N

[sullen gull]

The same as you would every other console game, No screen keyboard.

[feral geyser]

Zatie's hatred for console, yet deep interest in their inner workings, is kinda like how conservatives are with gay/trans people.

[silk ocean]

So literally you can't just type in a second

[feral geyser]

It's a bit weird tbh

[sullen gull]

AAAAAnnnny who, I'd say if you still would like to engage it, you could take it to #off-topic-general .

[silk ocean]

In 1-2 seconds I can hit N and type and hit enter. How is that going to work on a console

It's not going to work, console users are just going to get used to something else

[unkempt blade]

I agree, this is why we should deprecate keyboard support and focus all development effort on controllers

[white dawn]

Man, that does look weird when snapped to the end, though; like right on top of the "head" of the lift

Maybe it was just that I hated how that looked, so I never used it, and that morphed into believing it just wasn't possible

[shy mulch]

Mmmm phase 2 will be done soon, just need to wait for versatile frameworks, they'll be an hour or so. Need to do some sloop hunting in the meantime so I can sloop all my biomass to the maxxxxx

[feral geyser]

I think we should Satisfactory should have mail support

[silk ocean]

There is a reason why keyb+m is the best human interface solution. Controllers suck, they are for peasants

[feral geyser]

As in, I mail in my plans, and they send me a letter back with the outputs

[shy mulch]

Neuralink > kbm

[white dawn]

Seriously, if you are going to keep on about it, stop using deliberately-offensive terminology like that, please

I'll point you to the top rule, I guess: "• Be kind and respectful to others."

[sullen gull]

Till the ads and subscriptions 😏

[white dawn]

Calling someone a "peasant" because they like using a controller isn't either of those things

[shy mulch]

I think the pc vs controller argument is done to death tbh. Ppl will use what they have 🤷

[zenith fractal]

why not use a stylus pen for satisfactory

[white dawn]

Anyway, we all know that the real control scheme is a webcam pointed at a fishtank

[sullen gull]

Just ignoring it as rage bait at this point. I like to believe that people aren't''t generally that ignorant.

[steady glade]

wii fit board

[steady glade]

but you actually have to run and slide on it

[shy mulch]

Use a racing rig

[zenith fractal]

the toaster is where it's at

[white dawn]

<@&387163995947270144> Eh, could we get a cooldown here? #satisfactory message #satisfactory message

[nocturne condor]

whats faster, explorer or the player with blade runners doing sliding jump speed boosts?

[north cloud]

Chillax please

[zenith fractal]

it's could we get a longer cooldown. we already have a 5 second one. 🤓

[shy mulch]

I actually love the idea of using a racing rig for this. The pedals could be mapped to mouse buttons 🤔

[sullen gull]

I think vehicles, when going straight out, are a tad faster.

[steady glade]

bro, peasant isnt that insulting of a name in my opinion

[shy mulch]

Doesn't matter. Just everyone be nice

[white dawn]

Yeah, I think even tractors technically win out over blade runners on straightaways, though not by much

(That's assuming an absence of bunny-hoppy type activities, anyway)

[zenith fractal]

satisfactory scratches that one part of my brain

i can't get enough of it. especially when I build a new running factory

[outer hatch]

... I've worked out that to take advantage of byproduct compacted coal, the perfect split between NitroRocket and standard recipies is 72.7272.../27.27272...

It also doesn't help at all with my factory design.

[unkempt blade]

I know carts are a tiny bit faster than bladerunners

[feral geyser]

8/11 ×100 : 3/11 ×100
= 8:3

[outer hatch]

... I think I'm going to need more intermediary steps, here. (It might be the late hour...)

[feral geyser]

72.(72) = 100× 0.(72) = 100× 72/99 = 100× 8/11

Similar math for 27.(27) equaling 100× 3/11

Then you just simplify, they both have a factor of 100 and of 1/11

[nocturne condor]

what do you MEAN you can infintly ride a parachute up the 4m ramp and go faster than explorer or blade runners going up said ramp?!

[outer hatch]

That already makes more sense 😄 Thanks. (Yeah, the 100 & 11 part I had worked out)

[white dawn]

Honestly parachute physics is kind of in the same realm as hypertube cannons. Stuff that probably should be patched out but presumably never will be. :D

[feral geyser]

Who ever said math was boring?

[white dawn]

(I mean, we know that hypertube cannons won't be patched out 'cause CSS decided to commit to keeping 'em)

[limpid cairn]

Highschool math is boring imo

Way too easy

[cunning glade]

Greetings chat

Small dilemma in my mind I'm training in a lot of ore do I send it down a floor and deal with it there or send it back up or deal with it all on the same floor my brain can't decide

[limpid cairn]

Depends

[flint grail]

Is there a log file?

[limpid cairn]

what do you want to do with the ore?

[cunning glade]

It needs too go into blenders for aluminum

[limpid cairn]

If it needs fluid of any kind bring it down a floor

[limpid cairn]

Bring it down

[steady glade]

new floor

allow for an extra train later if needed, keep logisitcs away from processing

[cunning glade]

Well my plan was too just have a floor with 2 industrial containers for each output

[steady glade]

crash log or all logs?

[cunning glade]

Or keep it on main floor I do plan too bring the fluids up potentially

[limpid cairn]

Ngl

Do what makes you happy the most

[cunning glade]

Idk what makes me happy

[flint grail]

All logs

[cunning glade]

Having this factory done would make me happy

But I keep not playing and working on it

[outer hatch]

Thinking it through, isn't loadbalancing fluids a rather improductive idea?

[feral geyser]

Not when it's the difference between it running smoothly and it backing up on byproducts.

[steady glade]

C:\Users\you\AppData\Local\FactoryGame\Saved\Logs

[outer hatch]

My guess is the most reliable method is packaging?

[limpid cairn]

%LOCALAPPDATA%\factorygame\saved\logs

It’s better

%APPDATA%\local\factorygame\saved\logs

Also works

[nocturne condor]

somehow when i dismantled my car about a mile away from my main base, my inventory was too full and the parts formed into a dismantle crate... directly in the heart of my main base which as stated, was about a mile away or something like that

[steady glade]

%appdata%\..

[cunning glade]

Cuz if u dismantle something and there's already a dismantle box it'll get put in that

[steady glade]

but i somehow didnt know about that one

[elfin trellis]

any chance of having some updates this year or not really? game updates

[cunning glade]

I mean Christmas event

[shrewd palm]

1.2 might be coming but also might not be, all i know is that its been confirmed

i feel like the devs would drop 1.2 as a christmas present tho

[steady glade]

not really, focus is on console release rn, exept for bugfixes any new content will be a long ways away

[cunning glade]

Is phase 6 ever possible

[shrewd palm]

phase 5 is enough insanity

[cunning glade]

Fair

Only phase 4 so far

[shrewd palm]

if they were gonna do a phase 6 (which im like 95% sure they arent) it would have to be in some sort of new map

[outer hatch]

I'd rather have optional, side-objectives. Like MAM, but on a Project-Assembly-scale-if-smaller.

[steady glade]

or crush thousands of items into a new, slightly useful item

[outer hatch]

(Sorry, didn't meant to answer to you)

[steady glade]

like a ticket that you need more than a few thousands of

[nocturne condor]

I figured it would make a new one if it was far enough

[elfin trellis]

im having some troubles giving myself a chance to start again and actually finish the game, any update will be my "lets go" ticket to try again

i cant explain why i cant load an old save on phase 3\4, it feels to my heart like there's more "point" to start fresh, a new era, a new journey type of thing

[limpid cairn]

It’s not even that bad imo

imo phase 4 was / is worse than phase 5

[shrewd palm]

phase 4 is a bit of a bigger jump but phase 5 is a whole lot more complex i think

[unkempt blade]

why not just make a new factory in an old save?

[shrewd palm]

almsot everything needs either an insane amount of resources or has byproducts

[unkempt blade]

I think EA might have skewed my perspective on phase 4 because it felt super fast in 1.0 with the reduced elevator quantities compared to before

[elfin trellis]

looks like a "step by step checkmark achieving" vibe

[limpid cairn]

How is it more complex?

You just add 2-3 more ingredients to something and have a new thing

[shrewd palm]

in terms of what you have to do ig

[limpid cairn]

Okay tbh you have to use the phase 4 stuff to make it less complex

[shrewd palm]

you have nuclear pasta which in terms of production is pretty simple but the logistics can be hell if you scale up enough

[unkempt blade]

yeah imo the research stuff was never the real timesink for P4 it was all the ramp up for package parts in a reasonable amount of time

[shrewd palm]

and then all the other stuff you have to do

and then with phase 5 you have to deal with all sorts of byproducts and large/inconsistent power draws

[limpid cairn]

We are not kibitz wanting to make 60 nuclear pasta per minute

[shrewd palm]

i dont know why hes doing that tbh it does not sound fun

[limpid cairn]

iirc he’s using 18600 copper

[shrewd palm]

i think im making like 10-20 and thats enough

10 for space elevator and then a handful more for some other stuff

[shrewd palm]

isnt it 28,800 total or something?

[limpid cairn]

Probably ingots

[shrewd palm]

28,800 ore>72000 ingots>12000 powder>60 nuclear pasta

[limpid cairn]

I jusr saw it lol

[shrewd palm]

and who can forget the 120 particle accelerators

[limpid cairn]

The poor power grid 😆

[limpid cairn]

It’s 60, he’s planning to overclock them to 200%

[shrewd palm]

i think hes doing ficsonium so that should cover it tho

[cunning glade]

So far phase 4 ain't too bad tbh

[nocturne condor]

that dissapointing feeling when i pick up an alien artifact and ada doesnt have a funny conversation

[limpid cairn]

Youre in alumina tier atm

Thats the reason

[cunning glade]

I mean yeah but even looking at the recipes they don't seem that bad tbh

[limpid cairn]

That’s the fun part of phase 4 everything else is just torture

[cunning glade]

Idk I'll come back with an update once ive made more progress

[shrewd palm]

honestly phase 4 seemed completely overwhelming until 1.0

and then i just rushed it and it wasnt that bad

[nocturne condor]

meanwhile im here putting off phase 2 seemingly as long as possible (i need to find a good source of coal, i have the iron but ugh coal is getting hard to find already)

[shrewd palm]

blue crater has like 4 or 5 normal/impure nodes i think

nothing special but they should do the job for whatever

grassy fields also a lake with 3 normal nodes (4 if you have nobelisks)

and the rocky desert has 2 spots with 4 coal nodes right next to the entrances for the big cave

[sullen gull]

If for power, there is a lake just north of the grassllands that is a prime spot

[nocturne condor]

no i need to make versatile framework and automated wiring

[sullen gull]

Ahh

[shrewd palm]

theres also a pure node in the grassy fields that i like to use for steel

right next to a bunch of limestone and some iron

[feral geyser]

Did we ask where they started yet?

[nocturne condor]

I get the feeling that might be far from me, i started in the north part of the map

[feral geyser]

What if they aren't there? 😭

[sullen gull]

If it's the spot i'm thinking, sulfur as well yeah?

[shrewd palm]

decently close

[sullen gull]

Of course not! 😏

[feral geyser]

Rocky desert or dune desert?

[shrewd palm]

ahh, in that case im clueless

[exotic prism]

what is the folder that has all the save files ???

[shrewd palm]

there is a decent spot in the rocky desert for steel tho, right under the cliffs with the 3 pure coal nodes on top

[nocturne condor]

Northern forest is my starting point and where all my stuff is centered around

[feral geyser]

Yuck

[sullen gull]

C:\Users<user>\AppData\Local\FactoryGame\Saved\SaveGames\

[exotic prism]

Thanks!!!!

[shrewd palm]

im not a huge fan of the northern forest tbh, not enough flat space

[feral geyser]

There is a lake somewhere near a normal caterium vein that has 3 pure coals around it

[shrewd palm]

there is also a spot with like 4 coal nodes that is decently close to some iron and copper thats right on the border of the titan forest i think

[nocturne condor]

Do you know how much im over thinking this? A LOT I litterally have the perfect spot, im already building the exact amount of steel production i need. I just wasnt using it for versatile framework due to the fact i didnt want to dig into my steel beam production, but i realize, why do I care? I can just turn off the machines when i need steel beams

[nocturne condor]

yeah thats the exact spot im talking about in the more desert area, i have it set up for steel production i just wanted to keep it seperate but realiz,e i shouldnt care

[shrewd palm]

the spot that im talking about is right here, the place with the 3 pure nodes is the green circle #screenshots message

[real shale]

"satisfactory, a game, a lifestyle, an undiagnosed neurodivergence", what an opening to a video and somehow I feel attacked

[shrewd palm]

which video is that i need to watch it

that is also spot on

[real shale]

Reggie's Satisfactory video

[nocturne condor]

green circle is my power production #screenshots message the spot im talking about is here

[shrewd palm]

yeah thats another good spot

[real shale]

"this game is like heroin but without the needles" oh wow LOL

[shrewd palm]

ive got HMFs there but i usually just belt the coal over to the bunch of pure iron nodes on the cliffs

[shrewd palm]

great video

[cunning siren]

I'm doing a Northern Forest run in the NW section, I've got more nodes I know what to do with AND the flat area is for you to build 🤷 the big canyon between the iron and coal nodes is what I used. Starting area I used is on the left #screenshots message

[sullen gull]

Lmao, dare I ask what video are you even watching? 🤣

[nocturne condor]

im heavily struggling with coal in this section, i can squeeze some more out of my coal nodes thats for sure but its going to get harder the further i get until i expand further

[real shale]

#streams-and-videos message

[shrewd palm]

oh wait i was thinking of a different one

i was not aware the total warhammer guy played satisfactory

[sullen gull]

There is a good bit of coal to the ENE of the green circle.

[nocturne condor]

yeah its being used 100% for power, i can double down with an mk2 miner but chances are it will go to more power if i do that when i need it

[cunning siren]

The 4x normal coal nodes I'm using are to the NW from staring point next to crystal cavern entrance

You can see that in the distance

[nocturne condor]

yup thats what im repurposing my factory there into versatile framework from pure steel beam/pipes production

[sullen gull]

OK, I "get" that there is an attempt at being "funny" ... I'm not seeing it though lol. 🤷‍♂️ Me problem 🙂

[real shale]

Out of pocket humour really gets me sometimes

[cunning glade]

There's so many spots with 1200 coal or more

[sullen gull]

Bonus though, Not far from some oil 😏 .. when ya get there that is

[nocturne condor]

near the northern forests?

[cunning glade]

Assuming you've already figured that out now but the interactive map is amazing for finding resources

[cunning glade]

Even more so near there

[nocturne condor]

ill have to take another look around i guess

[nocturne condor]

im trying to minimize interactive map usage but i might get it out

[real shale]

"you will build for about 5-7 hours before you realise you've already messed everything up"

Man, you didn't have to spell my phase 4 experience out loud

[steady glade]

phase 4?

[sullen gull]

Just using the ig map, along with scanning, is really useful though. Hit V, then immediately open the map and watch where things pop up, and mark them.

[cunning glade]

Fair enough idk why I would tho

I mean knowing where nodes are is so nice

Radar towers let u do that anyway so I don't see issues with it

[nocturne condor]

First full playthrough, i havent played since before version 1 and i havent ever really gotten past phase 2

[real shale]

My experience with phase 4 so far has been

Try to introduce new factory
realise the errors in your current factories
realise you messed up your train infrastructure
realise you messed it all up
Tear it down
tear it down
Rebuild it all. Now.

[cunning glade]

Same

I still use the map anytime I'm making a factory

I put about 200 hours in without getting past steel very much

Before 1.0 and this is my first real playthrough

[steady glade]

that started from phase 2 for me

[sullen gull]

Try no to rebuild. Just move on through, and keep trucking on, keeping that knowledge. That way you know what things to watch for if you want to 'play again' and try to achieve more personal goals.

[real shale]

It is too late for me, everything is being rebuilt already

Inefficiencies will be weeded out and CONSUMED

[shrewd palm]

well this is problematic

it seems that i didnt account for how many drone ports i would need

[nocturne condor]

its simple, i like (mostly) blind playthroughs unless it comes down to something complicated

[shrewd palm]

and i am now stuck with 1 missing drone port and nowhere to put it

[cunning glade]

Early game u can get away without it

But late game when u need 3k ore it's very helpful

[nocturne condor]

sure maybe ill use it later on but by that point im not spoiling to myself to myself

[sullen gull]

I mean, being here exposes a good bit as well 😏

[nocturne condor]

theres a diffrence between purposely exposing myself to spoilers by my own research like using the interactive map to find nodes like that. versus taking the risk of possible spoilers by being in this discord

[sullen gull]

Fair.

[nocturne condor]

first time using a dimesonal depot instead of regular storage this is gonna be fun

well im using both, need a buffer afterall

[cunning siren]

These floor holes...

Do I need to say anything more?

[sullen gull]

Snap a foundation to the machine and try to align the floor hole from that... (if that's the issue)

[cunning siren]

I was expressing my ❤️ for the floor holes not hate

[sullen gull]

🤐

[nocturne condor]

I dont make factories, i dont make art. I MAKE SPAGHETTI!

[last vortex]

Are elevator windows supposed to have such bad pop-in? https://i.imgur.com/JtcJnC8.gifv

[spark sky]

I wish we could highlight something (like in deconstruct mode) but instead of deleting it, have the ability to move or nudge it. That way we don't have to delete it and try to place it again.

(Well, I'd like to be able to nudge more things, like conveyor lifts, as well.)

[dawn scroll]

I love spaghetti factories.

[spark sky]

Well, you could connect all your spaghetti here to take it to the next factory, then split it off to wherever when you get there (30 conveyors).

A nice, compact, organized bus with spaghetti on each end.

#screenshots message

(I guess it might help if I show you the item in question.)

[honest flume]

When upgrading belts, do I need to rebuild splitters and mergers?

[shrewd palm]

nope

those are uncapped

[nocturne condor]

versatile framework and automated wiring are now well, automated! that took way too long for what they are

[shrewd palm]

huge

[honest flume]

I thought there was an issue where there was a belt inside splitters and mergers and it was causing issues when upgrading belts

[shrewd palm]

i havent heard of that, might have been an early acces thing

everything works fine for me

[honest flume]

sweet thanks

[nocturne condor]

and now i just gotta wait for 5 a minute framework to produce 1k!.. oh. wait.. uh...

[next sundial]

I hope your production is efficient and your conveyers are swift tonight pioneers o7

[nocturne condor]

actually tho when its done ill have phase 2 completed, first time ill be past this point

[shrewd palm]

time to either afk or go insane

[pseudo moth]

why not both?

[nocturne condor]

I dont really have anything to do other than afk so ill just do other stuff i guess

[real shale]

What if I wanted it to be inefficient and slow huh? Didn't think about that!

[pseudo moth]

Blasphemy.

[nocturne condor]

ada is gonna take your head

[real shale]

What if I wanted to put everything on the one singular belt huh?!?! No one can stop me

[pseudo moth]

You might be singlehandedly responsible for the great AI uprising after ADA gets sick of your BS lol

[real shale]

Programmable splitters? Sure, let's put 64 different items on one belt. What are they going to do

[versed mesa]

Hello all

[nocturne condor]

well i just unlocked the power augmenter. im trying to figure out what it does (not that i can build one yet) is it just free energy? or does it burn through somersloops?

[next sundial]

Some people just wanna watch the world burn

[shrewd palm]

it gives 500MW for free and boosts your grid by 10% per augmenter. the sloop cost is only for building

[real shale]

What if I wanted to handcraft everything? Including all the screws.....

[shrewd palm]

although you can bring that boost up to 30% with power matrixes but they're very endgame

[next sundial]

Mine only gave 250 for free for the first one

Rigged and scammed

[nocturne condor]

arent there some items that cant be hand crafted? you can manually feed them tho

[real shale]

I'll manually feed them one by one

[shrewd palm]

i think just space elevator parts

[real shale]

It's close enough, the parts are made by manipulator robots, which are close enough to hands

[next sundial]

Not trolling I actually handcraft and handfeed most things still 😂

[fallow sierra]

im kinda new and have 2 lizard doggos, and one gave me a yellow slug and the other gave me a purple one. is that rare?

[real shale]

Wait what they can give slugs?

[sullen gull]

Rearish, But not uncommon.

[limpid cairn]

yes

[fallow sierra]

anyway i thought it was pretty cool because it was both at once

[sullen gull]

Potential to bring almost every type of items. Thankfully no more radioactive stuff lol.

[real shale]

"I'm sorry buster, I gotta put you down"

[pseudo moth]

Oof.

[sullen gull]

Well, except nuke noblisks 😏

[pseudo moth]

"why is my doggo glowing/has an extra leg?"

[real shale]

I wish the nuke nobelisks had a bit more oomph to them

[pseudo moth]

"Is it normal for them to poop glowing rocks?"

[sullen gull]

I feel like, for a nuke, the radius should be a bit bigger for sure ..

[pseudo moth]

Definitely agreed.

[real shale]

Why can't I have antimatter nobelisks.......

[pseudo moth]

Or at the very least give us an upgrade for such via research.

[limpid cairn]

antimatter would be nice in tier 10 lol

[real shale]

if I can defy the laws of time and space why can't I make an antimatter bomb to obliterate half the map

[real shale]

Can you imagine messing that up

"Why is half my factories missing?"

[pseudo moth]

"Why is the planet crescent shaped now?"

[shrewd palm]

FICSIT is worried about the pioneer's ability to not harm themselves or their factories and thus ruin their efficiency

[real shale]

fade to black
Wake up in a wagon
Hey you, you're finally awake

[pseudo moth]

Nuked yourself so hard you wake up in Skyrim. Brutal.

[limpid cairn]

didnt ada say the pioneer gets replaced as soon as he gets injured or something?

[real shale]

Yet we are capable of launching ourselves at Mach 20 somehow with no whiplash

[limpid cairn]

only mach 20...

im sending myself at light speed most of the time

[real shale]

That's the speed that I clocked before I hit the cliff....

Cleaning crew had to land to fix that mess

[limpid cairn]

i assume since the pioneer wears a helmet he cant die hitting his head

thats the reason we can send ourself into cliffs at mach 20

[sullen gull]

or .. her head ...

[lucid flicker]

hi

yo does anyone wanna join my groupchat server thingy

[peak oak]

Hey, I just made a Reinforced Plate factory. It should be producing 10 plates pm but I think my splitters and mergers are too slow. I'm at Tier 4 right now anyone know when I unlock faster ones?

[lucid flicker]

same i made one too

i have a suggestion, r you using mk 2 or no?

and also, its most likely not caused the splitters and mergers, just add more assemblers if you can, or constructors, whatever machinery you need more

[peak oak]

I don't have MK2 mergers and splitters for some reason

[lucid flicker]

no no, i meant mk2 conveyors

[peak oak]

I used satisfactory modeler for the machines

[lucid flicker]

did that uhh by any chance mess up the machines, like the speed etc

[peak oak]

No everything looks good, I have 3 constructors on screws and there going into a merger which is slow

[versed mesa]

Check this out guys #screenshots message

[cunning siren]

I may need to run two MK.4 belts of quickwire 😆

[versed mesa]

Ive been very hard at work specially today

Its rest time for me now

I get paid 100 million later for building this factory lol

[versed mesa]

Did I do a great job guys ?

[limpid cairn]

You did good

Now, 10 reps of crafting HMF while screaming FIC-SIT

[versed mesa]

Thanks i felt like I dod since how hard it was took me like around 2 days todo

[versed mesa]

Lol

[limpid cairn]

Wait till you do nuclear power

[versed mesa]

Yeah dont mention it i can see what its going tobe like since just this part was some work

[real shale]

Unlocking it or actually using it?

Because I've been trying to unlock it for quite some time now.....

[limpid cairn]

It’s just a super massive logistical headache

I still have to figure out how to get a manifold with 6300 items needed per minute running

[versed mesa]

Yeah it is specially when you dont know what your going for but just placing stuff down try to makesure everything looks in place lol

[limpid cairn]

2.100 items per minute *

[versed mesa]

Woah this sounds challenging lol

[limpid cairn]

It is challenging 🙏🙏🙏

Someone do it for me please

[versed mesa]

Lol

[versed mesa]

Like what would need tobe crafting though?

[leaden turret]

make a manifold that does 63 then repeat it 100 times

[versed mesa]

Wtf

Hello no lmfao

[limpid cairn]

42 Manufactors in total, split into 3 sections need a total of
2100 uranium
2100 sulfur
1260 silica
6300 quickwire
Just for uranium cells

[versed mesa]

@limpid cairn what's it for exactly?

[limpid cairn]

Nuclear power

[versed mesa]

Wtf

[limpid cairn]

Tbf I’m using every node on the map

[versed mesa]

Or my goodness

@limpid cairn so your telling me I will need todo the same ?

[limpid cairn]

if you are a maniac and want a lot of power and a lot of headaches, yes

[versed mesa]

For what though lol

[limpid cairn]

It’s kinda a phase 5 / tier 9 project mainly

[limpid cairn]

Power mainly

[versed mesa]

Ah hell noo

[limpid cairn]

I wanna make the max ficsonium possible

[limpid cairn]

It’s optional Dw

You can stick to rocket fuel and you shouldn’t have power issues

[versed mesa]

@limpid cairn ill still try todo it hopefully my skill has improved more by then lol

[limpid cairn]

Good luck

Tbh it just seems like a lot when you’re in phase 3-4

[versed mesa]

Phase 4 is alot still

Its worser than phase 3 lol

[limpid cairn]

Ik

Imo the worst phase in the game

Phase 5 is really fun again

[versed mesa]

Lol

[dense lion]

phase 4 is where i hit my limit on solo play, now im looking to start a new one with homies

[dense lion]

getting to phase 4*

[versed mesa]

Like ive not mass produce computers yet been crafting by hand and high speed connectors so this is my next job to sort out

[real shale]

I heard power was mentioned and I've been summoned

[versed mesa]

Lmfao

[real shale]

Did you know that mesh substations would technically be possible in satisfactory

[limpid cairn]

Good luck automating high speed connectors

Gave a load of headaches to me

[real shale]

High speed connectors aren't thattttt bad

[limpid cairn]

Till you have to figure out how to make a manifold with a lot of quickwires and mk5 belts

[real shale]

Especially if you go for silicon ones + silicon circuit boards

[versed mesa]

Thanks would need to transport plastic to my starting site for the productions lol

[real shale]

I actually had a unique solution to this

[limpid cairn]

For what exactly ?🤔

[real shale]

I call it the REVOLVING belt

[limpid cairn]

I just used an injection manifold

[versed mesa]

For one computers needs plastic

[real shale]

I made a system that loops the parts for high speed connectors around until they get used up or dumped on overflow

[real shale]

Crystal computers :)

[versed mesa]

The ones that are orange lol

[real shale]

yeah

[limpid cairn]

Alt recipe

[real shale]

Crystal computers

It's Crystal oscillator plus circuit board

[versed mesa]

Yeah

[limpid cairn]

Finally I can use my 250 spare crystal oscillators per minute

[real shale]

"but the circuit boards use plastic"
Not if you use silicon circuit boards hehe

[versed mesa]

And ive not mass produce oscillator also so yeah there still stuff ive not automated yet

[real shale]

WHAT 250????

[limpid cairn]

Yes

[real shale]

HOW? Those things are so slow to produce and produce in such small quantities

[versed mesa]

@real shale setting up multiple machines

[real shale]

Yeah i know, I only got 13 out of two pure quartz veins

[limpid cairn]

Tier 8 unlocks Quarz purification which gives a lot of quartz crystals as by product

[real shale]

Ohhhhh I have one of those recipes

[cunning siren]

Silicon Circuit Board pretty handy 🤔

[versed mesa]

Thats the one in the MaM right ?

[real shale]

Wait, hold up, I was using quartz purification too

You've made me question all that effort I put into that damn rocky desert cave factory

[limpid cairn]

It’s not in the mam

[versed mesa]

@real shale did you have the machine overclocked ?

[limpid cairn]

How much quartz’s are you using

[real shale]

Every single machine is overclocked

[versed mesa]

Or well i am sure ive unlocked it to right

[real shale]

Whatever 7 refineries can produce, I still needed 150 silica for the circuit boards

I swore I did all of that math correctly, theres no way I could squeeze out much more

[versed mesa]

@real shale and have you put somerloops into it ?

[real shale]

4 somersloops per manufacturer :(

[limpid cairn]

Im using 2700 quartz btw

[real shale]

I'm so confused

[versed mesa]

Nice maybe you j7st have not figured it out yet lol

[real shale]

I'm using 1200 raw quartz from MK2 miners on the pure veins

Naw I'm certain I had that math figured out

Everything runs at 100% efficiency

[versed mesa]

You need higher level mks

[hexed phoenix]

You don’t necesarily need 4 sloops for Manufactorer..

If machine has 1 Input - 1 Sloop = 100%
If machine has 2 Inputs - 1 Sloop = 50%
If machine has 4 Inputs - 1 Sloop = 25%

[versed mesa]

Even you miners will ned upgrading

[real shale]

Yeah but thatll only double the raw quartz, which in theory should only net me 26/min

250/min from 2700 is.....something

[limpid cairn]

@real shale I think I did the math wrong I don’t have a 250 CO per minute I have something else 250 per minute but idk what I have lol

But it’s prob still around 100 CO per minute

[real shale]

Thats still a crazy amount from 2700 and makes me doubt all my efforts

[versed mesa]

Lmao

[hexed phoenix]

Can always introduce SAM to convert other resources to Raw Crystal 😁

[real shale]

Oh.....wait a minute

@limpid cairn are you using the SAM.....

[limpid cairn]

No

[versed mesa]

Lol

[limpid cairn]

I build the factory before I unlocked converters 💀

In phase 4 pretty much

[versed mesa]

Rip

[real shale]

Its in the rocky desert isn't it? 2700 seems to track with those nodes

[limpid cairn]

it’s in the dune desert 😭

It’s like at the only 2 normal nodes

[real shale]

I need to seek alternative employment...

[versed mesa]

Ive not been to the full dune deset yet I think i enter first part but theres much more ive not uncovered yet

[real shale]

I spent so much effort to produce 13 crystal oscillators a minute

[versed mesa]

The first part from ocean side

[real shale]

Only for my efforts to be shattered by reality

[versed mesa]

Don't over worry about it your doing fine lol

[real shale]

But I could have so many more radio control units......

[versed mesa]

That ok you learn and improve down the line

[hexed phoenix]

Dont go to SF Tools, check All recipes.. Select CO and Maximize Output..

Spoiler alert, theoretically should net u 3430 CO/Minute without Sloops

[versed mesa]

Nice

[real shale]

😭

[limpid cairn]

Ngl I have a bad capability of guessing how much items per minutes I need for the future

For example I still have a small factory that produces 100 ai limiters per minute

[versed mesa]

3 billion

[real shale]

Well that I do have

My yummy grassy fields ai limiter factory

[versed mesa]

I still craft by hand lol

[real shale]

Which is currently done logistically by a train on a floating platform that I've never bothered to give any support to whatsoever

[limpid cairn]

You don’t need a lot so Dw keep doing that 😭

[versed mesa]

Yeah i am not lol

[hexed phoenix]

If its any consultation.. If CO is just for Dimensional Storage, for building.. 1-2 Machines not overclocked would satisfy your need with more than enough :)

[nocturne condor]

yay.. 418 versatile frameworks out of 1k. this is so fun...

[limpid cairn]

@real shale #screenshots message if youre interested thats how the CO factory looks from above

[cunning siren]

No throughput monitor on a lift! <shakes fist>

[limpid cairn]

wait till you reach phase 4-5

way more fun waiting

[nocturne condor]

True, but this is more im refusing to build up more versatile framework infastructure becuase im lazy and it means i have to find a lot more coal and iron ore deposits among other issue. it has been 2 hours of running on 5 a minute

[limpid cairn]

cant you build more of them and then switch the recipes from frameworks to encased industrial beams?

[nocturne condor]

I dont have that recipe otherwise I would

[limpid cairn]

isnt phase 2 tier 3-4?

[dense lion]

yes

[nocturne condor]

Yup, im waiting to unlock the next tier

[mortal ginkgo]

so I just planned a factory. a smol and cute one

then wanted to not make wires from iron, you know release some stress.

then I checked where is the nearby copper..

BROTHERMEN WHERE ARE THE COPPER AND WHY IS IT SO RARE LIKE GOD DAYMMMN.

[nocturne condor]

well i figured out why it seems to be taking much longer than it should, for some reason its only working at 42% eff despite the fact it should be running at 100% based on what ive set up

[limpid cairn]

copper is super rare when you arent in the dune desert 😛

[feral geyser]

Iron Wire is only 10% less efficient than regular wire.

[cunning siren]

Bless me father for I have CLIPPED! 😆 OHhhh nooos! I clipped something! Funny how it feels bad sometimes

[feral geyser]

There's a bunch of pure copper in the Rocky Desert too 🤔

[mortal ginkgo]

yep. I thought i made a mistake at SCIM when I couldn't see copper like brotherman doesnt wanna exist at all

[mortal ginkgo]

ok now thats a lie brotherman

[mortal ginkgo]

i just wanted to use copper. boi isnt even close by. its just not anywhere lol

[feral geyser]

I know of at least 5 pure copper veins in the rocky desert, fawk you mean

[limpid cairn]

8 nodes vs like 3x that

[mortal ginkgo]

fayt me irl bro all I see is normal and I need them for Hub

scattered silly bois can be around sure but whats little is either impure or normal

[limpid cairn]

theres 1 pure copper node in the rocky desert

[mortal ginkgo]

see

[feral geyser]

That can't be right

[limpid cairn]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/de/interactive-map#3;49935;-120483|gameLayer|copperNormal;copperImpure;copperPure

[mortal ginkgo]

maybe you are in wrong discord lil bro. copper is most abundant in DSP and factorio

[mortal ginkgo]

just checked dune desert and holy heck

rocky desert got like tons of iron but nothing else almost. kek

[feral geyser]

Damn okay, still 1 pure and 6 normals is not nothing

[mortal ginkgo]

they are scatterino. me no like scatter. me want togetha

[limpid cairn]

the only difference between rocky desert and dune desert is that dune desert has everything besides water😛

[vestal hill]

And this is why I have iron wire and am considering getting caterium wire

[cunning siren]

I guess copper is an end game thing as I don't use much 🤷

[mortal ginkgo]

desert not having water is a big mystery indeed i wonder what's the deepest lore for it I am sure it can rival Elden Ring kekeke

[vestal hill]

YEP