#satisfactory

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meager fern
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"There are a total of 113 alternate recipes available. 108 are acquired via Hard Drive scanning, while five are acquired from MAM research trees." according to the wiki that was linked

midnight ocean
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could give them to me i can always use more

white dawn
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If you mean that you want the count of recipes available at a certain point in the game, no, I'm not aware of a place that's totalled up those numbers. The recipe pool expands as you gain access to new resources/machines, so it's kind of constantly expanding as you unlock things

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And folks can unlock stuff in different orders

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So having a mid-game total-available count would be difficult

meager fern
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oh i missed the stage caveat

white dawn
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I generally recommend just keeping up with the drive acquisition. Make sure you're exploring as you unlock stuff. :)

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Once you get a "no more recipes to scan" notice you know you're keeping up with things. And that way you're also finding yourself more spheres + sloops + DNA, to boot!

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I admit I often found it hard to stay motivated to go drive-seeking pre-1.0; even with the allure of alt recipes I'd often rather just be factory-building

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Spheres+Sloops make exploration that much more attractive, though

meager fern
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personally i got 60 recipes in my count. but i just used ctrl+f and typed "tier 1" etc and cycled through them

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but that doesnt include the mam alt recipes, so 65 could be right

leaden turret
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hard drive fort

white dawn
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I stand corrected!

meager fern
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ill probably just flush them

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or put them in a tractor and drive it off the edge of the world

feral geyser
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or just leave them in your depot or Hub chest πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

real shale
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Aw, the hub is no longer in party mode

prime rampart
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i just made a bvig ahh screw facvtory

prime rampart
meager fern
real shale
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Screws mentioned, I'm scared

feral geyser
meager fern
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like those weird mercer spheres and somersloops. instant flush. totally useless to me

feral geyser
prime rampart
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Wait uhhh u said something abt a manifold

feral geyser
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yes

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manifold the 5 rubber machine and the 5 plastic machines into one belt each

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you're only gonna be making 100/100

prime rampart
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how though

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i have like this weird shape of how i transfer it

feral geyser
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basically, a line of mergers feeding into each other, and a main output belt out the end

midnight ocean
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manifolds my precious

real shale
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🍣

prime rampart
feral geyser
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delete em all

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are your pipes on ground level?

prime rampart
feral geyser
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snap a lift onto the output of each refinery, have them all face out and at the same height

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then snap mergers onto the top of them, all pointing down a line

prime rampart
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thats what i did

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OH ok

feral geyser
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then connect with the fastest belt you have

meager fern
feral geyser
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just like that, except with mergers, cuz his is an input manifold

meager fern
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im glad they made splitters/mergers snapping onto lifts so much better. they used to be kind of a pain but now they just work

feral geyser
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yeah, it is quite simple now

meager fern
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it would let me snap it onto the lift, but it wouldnt actually output/input

prime rampart
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wait could u see this

feral geyser
prime rampart
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ok

feral geyser
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also, for future builds, i like to elevate pipes, cuz then fluid flow down into machines easier, and then i have the floor for belts or floor holes to underneath

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you could point them all in toward the middle machine

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then have it come out the center of the manifold

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lots of different ways to do it

midnight ocean
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i have seen someone make a water tower that pumps the water so its above all the machines and then bring it straight down so the fluids always have enough headlift

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and it looks pretty cool

feral geyser
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it is an exploit, but it is also cool

silk ocean
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How is that an exploit?

meager fern
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exploiting? in my factory? banned

midnight ocean
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i wouldnt say its an exploit since it still requires pumps

feral geyser
silk ocean
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But if you pump it up then surely it's fair game

midnight ocean
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oh so does it begin to syphon after?

feral geyser
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you pump it up once, then you can dismantle the supply lines and all the pumps and still get it

silk ocean
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Syphons are a real thing after all xD

feral geyser
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it's not technically a siphon either

meager fern
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its witchcraft. heretics!

white dawn
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Yeah, you can construct "water towers" in exploity ways which remove the need for pumps

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You can also do it in more "legit" ways which feel less like cheating the system. :)

feral geyser
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i started researching this a lot more since Aeryn schooled me the other day

midnight ocean
silk ocean
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It's almost pointless either way, it's not like pumps are hard to install nor do they consume much power xD

feral geyser
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exactly

meager fern
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there is a finite amount of power in the world. if you want to effectively use 100% of the materials in the game, you need all the power you can get

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probably

feral geyser
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eh, hardly a concern

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99% of players will never reach that power cap

midnight ocean
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yeah i cant imagine many people would exploit for 4MW except maybe some min/maxxers

silk ocean
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If you want to be as efficient as possible you have to exploit as much as possible? XD

feral geyser
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sounds like capitalism

silk ocean
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The FICSIT way

feral geyser
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we're not doing this for money....

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...we're doing it for a SHITLOAD OF MONEY

silk ocean
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And to launch some world destroyer

feral geyser
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(no one appreciates my movie references 😒 )

prime rampart
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NOW i eat breakfast

prime rampart
meager fern
silk ocean
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Which movie is that? Doesn't ring a bell

feral geyser
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SPACEBALLS

meager fern
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never watched it

silk ocean
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Oh, yeah

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Old skool

prime rampart
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how amny storage acontainers should i have nyazsul

white dawn
feral geyser
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if you have the big ones, use those

prime rampart
meager fern
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oh my eyes πŸ’€ spare them from that cruel sight

manic topaz
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which one is more important
900/min plastic factory
or
sleep

feral geyser
meager fern
manic topaz
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1800/min plastic factory
or
16 hours of sleep

meager fern
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my body wont do more than like 10 hours before i just wake up

feral geyser
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you have the rest of your life to sleep

midnight ocean
manic topaz
midnight ocean
meager fern
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that doesnt really count then since you woke up at one point

feral geyser
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the last time i slept like that was when i had surgery

manic topaz
prime rampart
meager fern
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the last time i got more than 10 hours of sleep, i had stayed up for 72 hours drinking monsters, rockstar, nos, and other brands of energy drinks to stay awake playing games

midnight ocean
manic topaz
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that's lovely

manic topaz
feral geyser
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yeah, good idea

meager fern
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if you sleep now, you can make the 900/min plastic factory in the time that you would've slept if you did it now

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or something like that, i can never actually use that logic to make myself sleep

prime rampart
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how many screws per min do i need for phase3

manic topaz
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0

feral geyser
white dawn
meager fern
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between 0 and all of them

feral geyser
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make screws at the machine that will be using them

meager fern
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make screws in 1 dedicated factory, and have 1 billion belt lines because why did you do that

manic topaz
# manic topaz 0

i stopped handcrafting at like phase 2 and never needed screws

feral geyser
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you don't need screws for anything except the AWESOME shop and a few pieces of equipment

prime rampart
manic topaz
feral geyser
prime rampart
meager fern
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#screenshots message my screw production before my first reinforced iron plates factory i made 4 years ago

manic topaz
feral geyser
manic topaz
feral geyser
prime rampart
feral geyser
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and if you use the Electrode Scrap recipe, no coal needed

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but then that makes a whole other mess

meager fern
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and if you dont use screws, no coal or steel or screws needed

manic topaz
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stitched iron plates and stuff i guess

meager fern
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but ask yourself, are you feeling like balancing out the alt recipes punk?

unkempt blade
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why wouldn't you want to use screws though? they're all the best recipes

prime rampart
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is my 1modularframe per min good

meager fern
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no

feral geyser
manic topaz
feral geyser
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try to do 10-20

manic topaz
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i had like 10/min at tier 3

meager fern
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i have 13/min on my janky setup

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and 2k saved up

midnight ocean
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the new factory im building will produce 4/min but thats without any boosts

manic topaz
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i forgot how good slooping was

meager fern
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instead of getting some sloop, maybe you should get some sleep

feral geyser
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i make, i think 90-100/min? going into heavies, then fused, then everything else from there

manic topaz
feral geyser
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all out of aluminum (except the iron plates)

manic topaz
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curse you satisfactory discord server for being so enticing

feral geyser
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cuz for some reason, you CANNOT get rid of iron for plates

meager fern
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im watching kibitz playthrough of satisfactory 1.0 and it makes it look like hell. why does he need so many machines and tens of thousands of copper powder

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i kind of skipped between tier 1 and nuclear pasta

feral geyser
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well yeah, Nuclear Pasta is why

white dawn
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'cause pasta eats copper for breakfast, is why. :)

feral geyser
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it needs a ton of copper

dense violet
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different build and play styles. I wouldn't really take kibitz as a role model for building though

unkempt blade
manic topaz
meager fern
feral geyser
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you are right though

manic topaz
meager fern
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man im really glad i'll never need more than 120 limestone/minute

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definetly

feral geyser
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oh you will

meager fern
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not if i stop playing right now i wont

feral geyser
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i mean...

real shale
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Me running out of concrete because my depot cannot physically keep up

earnest oak
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i think i doing something wrong is that how big 20 modular frames should be someoone check screenshots

feral geyser
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triple depots

manic topaz
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now i wonder what an infinite loop of limestone into iron into sulfur into limestone looks like

real shale
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sorry did I say depot singular

meager fern
real shale
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I meant depot plural

earnest oak
feral geyser
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this is why i like Bolted Frames

midnight ocean
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bolted frames use more raw iron for me though

real shale
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Heavy encased frames my beloved

meager fern
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i think that what everyone should do is make their factories out of nothing but iron. iron wire, iron for steel parts, all iron

feral geyser
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it definitely does, but 10 assemblers becomes 4

earnest oak
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crap ton of screws imo

meager fern
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that sounds like a good idea to me

midnight ocean
unkempt blade
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iron is by far the most plentiful resource in the game so you don't really need to be 100% resource efficient with it

feral geyser
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iron has never been a limiting factor in anything i have built, it's always something else

meager fern
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for some reason i feel like you cant make steel beams or copper sheets out of iron

meager fern
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i cant make copper sheets out of iron? how rude

feral geyser
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i know, right?

manic topaz
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i'm going to stop praising converters and go to sleep

dense violet
real shale
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Somehow you can make wire out of iron though.....don't know how that works but...it does

dense violet
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you can make wire out of most metals

meager fern
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can you make efficiently conductive wire out of most metals? conductivity is kind of the key

real shale
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Iron wire is not ideal for most applications is what I'm saying

dense violet
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most metals are conductive

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magic nanite scifi tech πŸ˜›

real shale
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NOOOO MY REALISM

leaden turret
meager fern
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iron wire is more for like...construction or something. you need copper or gold or whatever that quickwire caterium stuff is

leaden turret
meager fern
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alien gold?

real shale
manic topaz
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mercury wire

meager fern
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satisfactory needs to add foundation collapsing if there isnt support every x meters, and base defense

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and hunger

feral geyser
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no, no, and no

meager fern
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okay then ill settle for a battle royale game mode

real shale
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I love how there's a research node called "structural analysis" in the MAM as if that is ever matters in this game when people have FLOATING platforms

silk ocean
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no no no no no no.....YES

feral geyser
unkempt blade
# meager fern and hunger

maybe thirst too so we actually have something to do with packaged water and a stamina bar that depletes as you build

feral geyser
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and if you want hunger, play Minecraft

manic topaz
silk ocean
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Killing animals is bad enough, screw hunger

meager fern
stone python
real shale
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Maybe it should add more realistic power mechanics...Wait no.... resist.

unkempt blade
feral geyser
manic topaz
leaden turret
feral geyser
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they should not (and have already said they will not) add hunger

meager fern
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they should make it so there is more realistic machine assembly, so you have to assemble and wire up every machine

real shale
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I would love to have a power system that relies on maintaining an actual frequency :) if fuses blown stresses people out there, imagine that being a thing lmao

unkempt blade
stone python
meager fern
# leaden turret

"Jace & Snutt have stated that base defense would be added, usually in reference to Sanctum."

real shale
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I know I'm joking

manic topaz
real shale
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LOL

leaden turret
stone python
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only 13 GW?

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chump change

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my entire world relies on a single wire transmitting 800 GW

real shale
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Never mind the fact that the entire power system runs off generators yet is......single phase....

leaden turret
meager fern
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i dont skip context, i just dont add the parts i dont like

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trust me its a very honest and well thought out way of looking at information. if you dont like something, dont acknowledge it

feral geyser
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i will definitely play Sanctum 2 with somebody, if anyone wants to

real shale
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Or the fact you can run a power pole from a transmission tower without a transformer.....

Space magic ooooo

unkempt blade
meager fern
real shale
stone python
real shale
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How many coupons is that worth

feral geyser
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imagine you hit a ball to edge of the green and hog comes outta nowhere 😭

real shale
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You could hit the ball into a hypertube

stone python
silk ocean
real shale
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HOLE IN ONE from across the map

manic topaz
meager fern
feral geyser
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bruh 😭

silk ocean
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Next thing you're gonna say after hunger is sleep

feral geyser
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2 unsinkables

silk ocean
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and thirst

stone python
real shale
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what about exercise

silk ocean
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stress levels

real shale
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Therapy sessions

meager fern
# feral geyser 2 unsinkables

then i guess you wont be able to unlock it, unlike some of us. we have the power of will to sink what the game tells you not to. we arent sheep who just follow game rules hog

feral geyser
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breaking free from your programming like in Detroit

silk ocean
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FICSIT wouldn't want a pioneer to be wasting all day searching for food from lizard doggos, hunting down fresh water, fixing their stamina and sorting out their stress levels, it's a waste of a pioneer's resources. They would drop in a nutrient pack so the pioneer can be exploited to the maximum building machines

feral geyser
# real shale Therapy sessions

she wouldn't even let you talk to the staff doctors after exposure to alien artifacts, you think they're gonna pay for therapy?

real shale
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"for food from lizard doggos" are you suggesting they are food or they are giving us the food???

feral geyser
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if i'm ever forced to kill a doggo, i will have some choice words for the devs

silk ocean
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It was suggested just above that the food has to come from lizard doggos xD

meager fern
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satisfactory 1.2 Update Notes. Hunger Bar Added. Lizard Doggo Remains Added. Lizard Doggo Protein Added. Nutrient Paste from Alien Protein Added

real shale
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I do want the coffee helmet that was in the console reveal trailer though

midnight ocean
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i hate the whale things

meager fern
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well maybe be a better person

real shale
meager fern
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the Space Giraffe Tick Penguin Things are beautfiul

midnight ocean
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the big ones that are always in the way

meager fern
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and should be respected

zenith fractal
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it's their job

real shale
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Not very good ones if they haven't written me up for my countless violations of the factory code of best practices

meager fern
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or you can throw 100 nobeliks on them

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that also works

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that reminds me, i need to setup my nobelisk farctory to begin my arms trade

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i need at least 20 nobelisks a minute, and several hundred rebar

silk ocean
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20/min is easy peasy

meager fern
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thankfully with iron pipes i wont even need to divert my steel production

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so i might go even further beyond super saiyan so i can produce all of the varities of nobelisk and rebar

silk ocean
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Make 20 Nuke Nobelisks per minute

nocturne orbit
silk ocean
nocturne orbit
silk ocean
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Hold CTRL ?

nocturne orbit
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funny but if I copy lift that's already built I cannot start building it from BPs floor - it's red

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but if I start a fresh one i need to nudge it horizontally for half a tile

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and then it also will allign vertically

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it's a weird BP

silk ocean
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World Grid related perhaps, sometimes it can be a bit tricky like that

nocturne orbit
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so same problem when I begin lift from a splitter that's been placed down - it doesn't allign vertically

silk ocean
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ultimately they are probably not snapped to the world grid somewhere, that's my only guess

regal geode
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How you get jetpack?

silk ocean
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Tier 5

regal geode
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Ok

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Im new i started yesterday

silk ocean
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Welcome Pioneer πŸ™‚

regal geode
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:.)

stone python
silk ocean
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Your spare time has now evaporated XD

regal geode
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?

silk ocean
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It shall all be consumed by factory building

regal geode
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I have made a wire line, iron mine, iron plates and something more

feral geyser
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keep up with that concrete too

regal geode
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I did onelf that to

teal geyser
feral geyser
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you'll need a lot more than one 😭

regal geode
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I know

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I took me an hour to get the space elevator

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This is also the first game i played on my computer

feral geyser
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an hour seems about usual

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what did you play on before pc?

prime rampart
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43.7hours and now starting to finish phase3 😭

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does this game get any eaiser?

feral geyser
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yes and no

prime rampart
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did i take too long for phase 3

feral geyser
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it gets easier in that, you know how to do things more, but it's more and more stuff as you go

feral geyser
prime rampart
feral geyser
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there is no "standard" pace

prime rampart
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after this playthrough ill speedrun the game

feral geyser
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if you're having fun, you're doing it right

prime rampart
nocturne orbit
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this will be my last evry blueprint to feature vertical splitter

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so inconsistent to build...

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and somehow it replaced single list with a weird nested series of individual lifts with old-fashing connectors....

prime rampart
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from playing fps gamesx to satisfactory best way to transition

midnight ocean
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is there any console commands to change time of day?

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im setting up my lights and dont want to have to wait for night

midnight ocean
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i checked on there but didnt see any so i wanted to check if anyone knew one

feral geyser
sterile blade
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Why look at me? I haven't done anything suspicious!
I don't do stuff like finding out first hand that Programmable Splitters have a limit on the number of filters they can handle, like... That'd be real crazy, imagine actually having a use-case for something that absurd... πŸ™„

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I think that a good question is about to come in chat. Just a feeling

real shale
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There should be a sale soon on steam

feral geyser
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β€’ Please don't beg for keys/free copies of the game.
leaden turret
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<@&387163995947270144> person has been enquiring about getting free copies of Satisfactory since July 2024

nocturne orbit
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oh I actually forgot there's vertical nudge now

feral geyser
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turns out Sushi was right, there was a good question about to be asked lmao

silk ocean
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It's not like the game is even that expensive, sensible price

leaden turret
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if that wasn't a mod that deleted the message, mods can still see deleted messages

nocturne orbit
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nice, I broke BPD

leaden turret
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banana protective device?

nocturne orbit
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after placing blueprint inside of it, it told me there's no cost, and dismounting in BP mode left some stuff that wasn't part of BP

sterile blade
nocturne orbit
real shale
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Isn't a banana protective device not just the banana skin

feral geyser
feral geyser
leaden turret
sterile blade
teal geyser
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People are e-begging for the game in here? Gross

obsidian hinge
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WHAT IS WITH THIS HIDEOUS SEAM IN THE MIDDLE OF ASPHALT TEXTURES oh my god the longer I endure this thing the more I hate hate hate it.

real shale
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FICSIT has to make money to strand their pioneers on alien planets somehow

sterile blade
leaden turret
real shale
obsidian hinge
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How does the seam fix that, it's just an ugly texture tile

feral geyser
obsidian hinge
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asphalt barely had problems with z-fighting in the past anyway since the texture was pretty uniform

real shale
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that's what I mean

real shale
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It doesn't z-fight, it'd take it over the seam

steel dome
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am i being really smart or stupid here, if you can use the nuclear waste to make plutonium fuelrods and they can be used as fuel for veichles why dont you use the waste to make fuel for a drone that goes back and forth in between places to burn the fuel till gone

nocturne orbit
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is there a way to remove empty space below blueprint?
placing it down inside BPD and nudging verticaly makes BPD ignore everything isnde that BP even without overlaping

real shale
feral geyser
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none that i know of, but if you find it out, lemme know

real shale
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It takes a LOT to burn one of those things with a drone

nocturne orbit
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and production building behave liek they are outside of BPD - with red indicator, not blacked out

steel dome
real shale
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You will need a lot of drones

obsidian hinge
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Has that seam "always" been on asphalt? I have no idea if I had been using some mod that removed it but I just checked on Satisfactory Q&A and someone posted a picture of the seam from U7 3 years ago.

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Either way, the seam is new to me since I took a break from U8 until now

steel dome
# steel dome yeah but if you have multiple drones

if you have a lot of drones most of them wont be going because you ned to provide them with fuel and the plutoniom fuel rods take a while to make so when one is done one is burned if you time it right

real shale
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Isn't it like 0.06 of a fuel rod per 5 minute trip?

sterile blade
steel dome
silk ocean
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In the toilet

steel dome
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oh

sterile blade
steel dome
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is it the toilet....

sterile blade
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That's a different topic. Feel free to test both xD

steel dome
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ok ill come back

real shale
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Oh god I wouldn't want to be that plumber being called in for a plutonium clog LOL

silk ocean
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You can reprocess the uranium waste and sink it, but if you burn the plutonium you're stuck with the waste, unless you reprocess it again into Ficsonium

real shale
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Problem is you can't burn ficsonium with drones

sterile blade
real shale
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:(

prime rampart
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is it that hard to manage nuclear waste?

steel dome
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i just got back happy off my head

real shale
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Just get a doggo, load it up and kill it

steel dome
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i didnt know there was another solution then fisconium that isnt dog slaughter

sterile blade
silk ocean
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If you want an infinite solution with zero human intervention, just go as far as Uranium, reprocess it and sink it. or go all the way to Ficsonium

silk ocean
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Better solution to drones ---> trains πŸ˜›

full perch
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Thinking of moving my stuff throughout scim,but what is Z in coordinate and how much I should put it as my item is below the map after moving it

real shale
silk ocean
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red bamboo fields was one of the easiest places I built rail

real shale
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I would rather build drones than have to ramp my way all the way up there

silk ocean
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Assuming you build elevated railways, just a case of blowing up a few things

sterile blade
# silk ocean Just tap some off for the drones if you really want to run them on nuclear

Nono, here's how you actually do it:

  • Check exactly how much PFR/min you make
  • Check exactly how much PFR/min one drone takes
  • Build exactly as many drones as needed, with routes long enough to perfectly consume all the PFR you're making
  • Make sure each drone port has drones with routes that are all the exact same lengths (thus all ports require the same amount of PFR/min)
  • Load-balance the PFR between all drone ports
  • Enjoy a radiation-free Plutonium-droning experience harmonious_hannah

Ez-pz~

silk ocean
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EASYβ„’

prime rampart
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what r deducated servers?

real shale
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PFR/min for one drone across the map is 0.06 a trip for 5 minutes so about 0.01 PFR/min per drone

sterile blade
real shale
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100 minutes to burn 1 PFR a drone

real shale
#

Gonna have to make a drone swarm

silk ocean
full perch
feral geyser
#

Oop, I was too slow

sterile blade
feral geyser
#

Deciduous servers

real shale
#

We don't talk about uneducated servers, rumours have it there's that much spaghetti you couldn't even load in anyway

prime rampart
#

does anyone use geysers?

feral geyser
#

All my homies love geysers

real shale
#

FREE ENERGY Achem I mean uh, yeah

sterile blade
prime rampart
#

how do u like get them

real shale
#

Geothermal generator research in the mam

feral geyser
real shale
#

It's.....caterium(?) research

prime rampart
#

ok its geothermal

sterile blade
prime rampart
#

OH IT PRODUCES ENERGY

real shale
real shale
feral geyser
sterile blade
feral geyser
#

Fuck, i'm so slow

real shale
#

SINE WAVE!!!!

#

As a power engineer the sine wave gives me bad thoughts

prime rampart
#

i see

#

im in my test world Lol

real shale
#

You can control the fluctuations with a couple methods though, but you can never truly obtain a stable maximum power from them, only their average

sterile blade
real shale
#

Battery storage or timing a pair with their fluctuations so they cancel out

prime rampart
#

ooo

real shale
#

Means you are guaranteed the average at least if you get a bit too close to your capacity for comfort

#

Not that you should ever get that close anyway

feral geyser
#

The more you add, the flatter it gets

real shale
#

Wellllll

feral geyser
#

The chance they all end up in-phase is vanishingly small

real shale
#

I must have horrible timing then

feral geyser
#

I don't think the cycle is dependent on when you build them, is it?

real shale
#

It is

feral geyser
#

Hmmm

real shale
#

That's why you can cancel the fluctuations out with a pair of them

#

If you time it right

feral geyser
#

I guess i never noticed that.

real shale
#

I figured theyd all be on a universal clock, but they aren't

feral geyser
#

I thought they were each on their own clock, cuz they erupt even when you don't have a gen built on them

#

But does this mean we could force a grid to have high amplitude spikes by making them in-phase?

real shale
#

I think that's just for aesthetics reasons but I could be wrong

#

Even the wiki refers to canceling them out by building them at specific intervals too

feral geyser
#

That's disgusting, imma try it

real shale
#

Let me see how much of a difference you could end up getting

feral geyser
#

Not now though

nocturne orbit
#

conveyor lifts broke my blueprint
after disasembling in BP mode they leave weird conveyor lifts that I didn't build

real shale
#

Bare minimum is 3550 MW

Maximum is 10650

Means a maximum fluctuation of 7100 MW

#

For all 31 geysers on the map

prime rampart
#

how am i supposed to make 50nuclear pasta wtffffff its so hard

sterile blade
#

Handcrafting can help

cunning glade
#

chat need help

#

took alot of screenshots but there in .exr format

#

why and how fix

sterile blade
#

How about googling "what is exr format and how to convert"? ^^

#

This is the first time I hear of an issue like this, though, so I'd be inclined to think that if something is wrong, it's likely due to your software rather than the game itself thinking_helmet

cunning glade
#

well i figured i could do that but how fix it doing that

#

the only thing i changed was exposure

#

and it hasnt done this before

#

god damm 100mb a screenshot

cunning glade
#

its an hdr format ig

edgy hedge
#

My Toggle HUD key is not working. Anyone any idea as to why? I've rebound it and still can't toggle the HUD

#

Okay, it works in photo mode

timber plover
#

i didnt play this game for a bit, been playing again and just used a nobelisk

#

jeeezzz that explosion almost scared me xd

versed mesa
#

πŸ‘‹

midnight ocean
#

is it possible to have a customisation applied when i place something down?

sterile blade
#

(You can prevent eye-dropping from copying settings/colors in the game settings)

midnight ocean
#

ah thanks

cursive phoenix
#

Is there a limited amount of portable storages you can place?

shy mulch
shy mulch
shy mulch
regal geode
#

First space elevator phase done:D

shy mulch
harsh valley
#

I'm about to give the space elevator the 50 smart plating

#

Will i unlock coal power plants after that?

reef basin
#

play and see

steel dome
#

what do geyzers do

harsh valley
#

If no I'm going to build more biomass burners

#

I have 3+ 2

steel dome
harsh valley
#

And I'm gonna build 3 more if I don't get access yet

cursive phoenix
#

can trains go through wallls?

shy mulch
harsh valley
#

Okie

shy mulch
harsh valley
#

8 more smart platings and i can finish the first phase

#

Also

steel dome
#

what do geyzers do

shy mulch
shy mulch
reef basin
steel dome
#

is it in caterium research

cursive phoenix
shy mulch
#

I've calculated that a constructor at 1% clock speed should use 0.00908 MW, does the game round that up or does it actually use that exact amount of power?

outer hatch
silk ocean
#

Are you doing the 1000 constructor project at max efficiency xD

#

Need 10 constructors? Build 1000 @1% clockspeed xD

shy mulch
outer hatch
#

The only way to check if it's the real value would be to underclock a generator, and then link underclock machines until the fuse goes.

shy mulch
#

Yeah might just do that πŸ˜„ ty

outer hatch
#

SCIENCE!

shy mulch
#

I've done some calculations (on paper, no less!)
My goal will be to stockpile alien remains, at full speed my system will burn through 48 alien remains per hour, I don't want to have to be constantly hunting them so I'll build up a good stock that will last a while before I turn anything on
My system will also use 20 somersloops, so I'll need to hunt for those first too
Net power generated (after subtracting power used in processing the remains) will be 2198 MW
That will be in the form of LBF, and I'll underclock the generators so they are always generating a bit less than I am using, so there is no waste and the actual usage will be less than 48/min
At the same time, I'll have a regular leaves/wood/mycelia processing system that will run as fast as it can, with an array of 10 biomass burners
Overflow SBF will be fed into a storage system with refineries that can be turned on and further process it into LBF if the alien remains system runs low on stock
Might consider slooping that part too, if I can be bothered to hunt out more sloops

silk ocean
#

I'm sure I have forgotten how to write

shy mulch
#

This will be a good opportunity for me to learn about using priority power switches, as I never used them in my main save

#

Quite excited about this ridiculous build, wonder if I'll have the patience to make it look nice though ......

silk ocean
#

Main difficulty retrofitting priority power switches is just down to factory design. If it's organised from the ground up I imagine not so bad

#

I dread the thought of having to reorganise the maze of power cables

#

Went down the alternative route to prio switches - powergen has guaranteed resources, lots of on-grid energy storage, large off-grid emergency battery restart building

#

If the factory ever trips and the energy restart is depleted then I may as well just take a giant laser and rocket and cut this entire section of land out and launch it into space and forget there ever was a factory because I ain't restarting it XD

cunning glade
#

Man I wish my brain didn't like overthink things

#

I wanna make factory but I need too make foundation and plan how exactly I wanna make it but my brain just says no

silk ocean
#

I usually lay foundations and then start in one corner and go from there xD

cunning glade
#

Yeah just not sure how I wanna do it I think I'm gonna train everything in from the bottom

silk ocean
#

I tend to start with a row of stations if importing yeah

cunning glade
#

Prolly what I'll do first then connect it all

#

What's the benefits if I use 8 cars over 4 or would it be better too use just 4

#

Cuz I'll be moving quite a bit of ore a min

silk ocean
#

Just a balance between the route length, the amount of station downtime there is (when unloading), the volume you need flowing and being able to extract more than that from the station while it's up and buffering it, etc. The more trains the more downtime

fresh wing
#

can a truck stop at multiple stations? it's been a hot minute since I've played this game so I've forgotten everything

fresh iron
#

yes

fresh wing
#

lovely, thnaks

dim shell
#

can someone help me out?

#

im a beginner im playing the game. How do i get a "constructor" and where do i find coal ores?

fresh wing
#

what tier are you at

#

you should be able to craft a constructor with Q under the production tab

cunning glade
silk ocean
#

5 x 780 ?

cunning glade
#

Ye

silk ocean
#

Could start with a train 5 long?

cunning glade
#

I like the look of 8 carts tbh

silk ocean
#

See if it can bring in enough to keep the station/buffers full

cunning glade
#

I see

silk ocean
#

The trains carry a lot

#

If it can get back and forth before the buffers deplete you should be good, can always add a 2nd train

#

or I guess do 1 x 10long train and double-up?

cunning glade
#

Ight

silk ocean
#

No right or wrong in Satisfactory πŸ™‚

cunning glade
#

Fair enough

silk ocean
#

Each car carries 3200, so if you're burning 780 that would last just over 4 minutes, if the train can fill up and get back in that time

#

If I got my math right

cunning glade
#

Wouldn't matter

#

I have mod for faster trains cuz why not

silk ocean
#

If you're using 780 belts you'll probably want to double extract from each station and buffer it, so that you can ride the unloading process without interruption and then "catch up" when the train leaves

cunning glade
#

Not much faster I don't think but I felt like they were too slow

silk ocean
#

Trains are pretty fast stock, they don't hang around

cunning glade
#

I found a save with a similar factory and am taking inspiration from it

cunning glade
#

Words are hard ig

dim shell
#

im at HOM4 rn, trying to get HOM5 for first drill

silk ocean
#

I already find them scary fast around corners at stock speeds XD

fresh wing
#

HOM4?

dim shell
#

what do i do rn one i get hom5? i wanna get some automations but idk how and what and where

dim shell
fresh wing
#

uh the hub?

dim shell
#

i think?

fresh wing
#

does it have a space ship on the side

dim shell
#

what?

#

whats that supposed to mean

#

i need help. What do i do once i get hub5

silk ocean
#

Just keep following the instructions and progression

#

One step at a time, etc

#

Pick an item to work towards in the HAB and so forth

#

You're Tier 0, HUB Upgrade 5 right?

dim shell
#

wait no

#

im at t0 h4 rn but im asking for h5 cuz i see its a big upgrade

silk ocean
#

Yea, well tackle Upgrade 4 first, you'll need those items anyway

dim shell
#

wdym upgrade 4?

silk ocean
#

In the HUB - You select your tier 0 and then you can see the milestones

dim shell
#

also the workshop like when i upgrade alot of the items then it becomes like yellow-orangeish. Can this thing overheat?

fresh wing
#

it cannot

dim shell
#

oh so its just here to scare me

fresh wing
#

YES

silk ocean
#

Just effect πŸ™‚

fresh wing
#

if you look at the console behind that workshop, that's where you select "milestones" that's your progression

dim shell
#

this game is so fun yet so confusing...

fresh wing
#

if you select a milestone it tells you the amount of items needed to complete that milestone

silk ocean
#

It will all make sense in no time

dim shell
#

how does automation even work? do i make a long line of 300m conveyor belt from an ore place to my house?

cunning glade
#

God I can't wait too playthrough this game again but with a newbie

dim shell
#

like the closest copper ore is 300m away

fresh wing
#

do you have biomass burners yet?

cunning glade
dim shell
south sinew
#

if you are starting out, then start out at a place with good iron, and automate iron plates first

cunning glade
#

Oh my sweet summer child

dim shell
south sinew
#

then a 300m 60/m belt is no problem

fresh wing
dim shell
#

thank god i got iron next to my house

cunning glade
fresh wing
#

you'll get it soon

dim shell
#

am i doing good tho rn?

shy mulch
#

the tutorial really guides you through it very well, just be careful to read everything it tells you

dim shell
#

gosh i HATE making cement

prime rampart
#

how many freight can i have with one station?

dim shell
#

yippe i can get HUB5

shy mulch
# dim shell gosh i HATE making cement

put a miner on a limestone node, and place a constructor near it, and connect them with a conveyor belt, make sure both are powered and you're good to go

cunning glade
dim shell
prime rampart
shy mulch
dim shell
#

i thought i first automate iron plates no?

shy mulch
#

place it and you will see, the game explains all this as you go

prime rampart
#

check screenshots though

dim shell
#

i need 10 more fucking cement really?

#

thank god i can craft it

prime rampart
#

10??

shy mulch
dim shell
#

i placed it down why is it so huge

prime rampart
dim shell
#

is there any other way to power my machines other than the biomass thing?

silk ocean
#

Constructors are smol

#

Teeny

dim shell
#

im talking abt the drill

shy mulch
brittle widget
#

Hi All, I have a problem (Blueprints) but dont really know the best place to post it. The questions and help section has something that might be the same issue but the person posted it 5 separate times with no screen shots so I am afraid if I post it there I will get in trouble or it will get ignored πŸ˜… Is there anywhere else to ask for quick opinions on what could be causing the issue?

prime rampart
dim shell
shy mulch
prime rampart
prime rampart
dim shell
#

ay my iron drill is working

#

whats a blown fuse

silk ocean
#

Initially, until you get more advanced power, you'll be doing a lot of biomass runs to keep those burners stocked

limpid cairn
dim shell
#

guys i got a question after the drill do i place a constructor or a furnace?

dim shell
#

i have connected them

slender quest
dim shell
#

how much leaves am i gonna need...

silk ocean
#

Depends how quickly you progress, quite a lot

dim shell
#

i got a question why my drill isnt giving the ores to the furnace

silk ocean
#

Connect it with a conveor belt

cunning glade
prime rampart
dim shell
#

like when i was placing the furnace to the drill i made sure the input and output "holes" are next to each other and there was even an arrow

slender quest
#

Also power everything.

cunning glade
dim shell
#

yeah ik

brittle widget
dim shell
#

how do i connect

#

the conveyor belt and the furnace

brittle widget
#

#screenshots message

So I have built multiple blueprints to form an item and personal elevator to make vertical transport of items look cool but no matter what I do, it has a gap. I have tried with auto connect on and off and I have tried default mode and blueprint but all have the gap, it is smaller on default though. The gap is too small for nudging to work as it causes clipping instead. Has anyone experianced this or know what might be causing it? πŸ™

silk ocean
#

Maybe watch a satisfactory starting tutorial video on YT

dim shell
#

or maybe i can get an answer 😭

silk ocean
#

Take the belt in hand, click the output of the miner, route it to the smelter's input

dim shell
#

ah thanks

silk ocean
#

You can route it how you like, e.g. can clickclick to create intermediate posts

slender quest
silk ocean
#

Click once and then you can raise/lower it, click again to drop it down

dim shell
#

so i got an automatic farm of iron ingots. What do i do now?

prime rampart
dim shell
#

"Finish upgrading HUB 6"

brittle widget
dim shell
#

i think ill try to automatize cement

silk ocean
#

Best to get in the habit of automating everything

dim shell
#

so i got 140 copper ingots like 140 iron ingots and about 42 cement

#

does placing conveyor belts require iron wires or iron plates?

harsh valley
#

How much water does one coal plant consume

silk ocean
#

45

dim shell
#

oh yeah it requires both

harsh valley
#

45mΒ³/m?

slender quest
harsh valley
#

And one pump produces 400mΒ³/min?

slender quest
#

Pump makes like 120 with no overclocking. 3 pumps are good for 8 coal plants, check the Wiki for setup.

dim shell
#

is the thing to make cement called "calcium"? since i play in another language

slender quest
brittle widget
# slender quest Hmm, never seen that before. What's your original plan? Put the bottom, then mid...

Depending on the height yeah. I actually made a smaller design on the mk 2 blueprint maker and decided to make a new one to fit the personal elevator into it and when I was testing now I noticed the gap. Here is a screen shot when I use normal mode, the gap is smaller but still there and easily spotable when multiple are placed and seen from a slight distance: #screenshots message

I can send screen shots of the designs in the blueprint designer if it helps?

dim shell
#

ah but if i say calcium are you guys gonna know what i mean?

silk ocean
slender quest
dim shell
#

dang so i cant say calcium? πŸ˜”

silk ocean
#

It's Limestone not Calcium xD

dim shell
#

ill try to stick to limestone

#

im doing a cement farm rn

silk ocean
#

Might technically contain calcium carbonate as one of its constituents but not pure calcium as far as I'm aware, that's a different thing xD

dim shell
#

i made a looong conveyor belt from the nearest limestone to my constructor inbase

slender quest
dim shell
#

ohhh biomass burner is HUB6

#

gotcha ill go get it rn

#

anything to automatize the fucking cement

#

also when will i unlock coal power plants? i want my factory fully automatic

rustic hare
#

next phase

dim shell
#

and whens a "next phase"?

slender quest
#

After space elevator + loading something in it.

dim shell
#

wtf is a space elevator

rustic hare
#

complete space elevator project assembly

dim shell
#

tbh i dont see why people are annoyed by the concept of biomass burners they arent that bad

prime rampart
#

guys i found this blueprint that lets me place crudeoil anywhere

#

does any1 use this?

rustic hare
silk ocean
#

It's the delivery mechanism to complete the main phases of the time, sends the manufactured components up to orbit

dim shell
#

anyways i got hub6

#

THERES NO WAY THAT ENTIRE PART WAS A TUTORIAL

slender quest
#

Kinda long yea

silk ocean
#

Tier 0,1,2 are kinda the learning/tutorial tiers

rustic hare
dim shell
#

i think that ill try to unlcok the terrain research or whatever it is in english

#

i REALLY need the map unlocked tbf

slender quest
#

Field research, yes, it's great?

brittle widget
dim shell
#

another type of biofuel in level 2? interesting

#

i brb

slender quest
dim shell
#

also do leaves and wood regrow?

silk ocean
#

Nop

dim shell
#

whats a beryl peanut or whatever tf is it

rustic hare
#

food, to heal (edible ofc)

dim shell
#

and an "blue electric slug"??

silk ocean
#

They grow around the place and can be picked, and those do regrow

#

As long as you don't destroy them entirely

rustic hare
dim shell
#

i brb

harsh valley
#

Im doing the math

slender quest
harsh valley
#

What to bring

neat owl
#

Hey guys, what should I go into first in tier 4?

#

(In the hub.)

shy mulch
neat owl
#

Ok.

dim shell
#

im back

#

i got a question. Do i input leaves like normally into the biomass burners, or do i turn them into biomass (leaves) and use the biomass instead?

slender quest
#

Biomass is more efficient, and solid biofuel (unlocked later) is even better.

dim shell
#

yes

#

is there a more effective way to distripute energy other than making a burner for each machine?

shy mulch
#

power poles

silk ocean
#

Yes use cables and power poles

shy mulch
#

it's important to read the menus and look at what each thing does

dim shell
#

how do i use it tho? do i put all biofuel burners to 1 power pole and 1 power pole to all machines?

dense violet
#

often 1 power pole per machine

dim shell
#

whats the point of power poles then if i can directly power a machine with a burner?

dense violet
hard ivy
dense violet
#

look at the numbers

slender quest
#

Then you'll have to run around later, putting fuel in each machine.

dim shell
#

im like so confused rn

dense violet
# dim shell im like so confused rn

ok a bio burner makes 30mw max, that means you can have like 6 smelters right? why make a bio burner for each when you can just put power poles in front?

heavy anvil
#

hook every burner onto 1 interconnected network, that way they burn as needed more efficiently

dim shell
#

does that mean i can use 1 biofuel for 6 machines?

heavy anvil
#

depends on power draw but yes

dense violet
heavy anvil
#

an assembler pulls 15 mw so only 2 of them

#

satisfactory is a math game

dim shell
#

how do i disconnect a wire from a biofuel burner?

heavy anvil
#

decontrust the wire with F

slender quest
#

F to dismantle.

dim shell
#

ah thanks

#

couldnt i technically connect all burners into 1 pole tho?

#

and the pole to every single machine?

slender quest
#

Connection limit of 4.

heavy anvil
#

yes

dense violet
shy mulch
#

There is icons in the bottom corner of your screen that tell you what keys to press

dense violet
dim shell
heavy anvil
#

no because they network

dense violet
hard ivy
dim shell
#

so i can do 3 burners to 1 pole and the 4th connection to another pole?

heavy anvil
#

yes

dim shell
#

now THAT makes sense

pearl flare
#

when I remove some blueprints from the blueprints menu, they dont always get deleted without quitting to menu first, is this normal?

dim shell
#

does the poles have a connection range limit?

dense violet
#

yes

heavy anvil
#

yes its about 300 yards ish

dense violet
#

and before you ask, some distance. Play with it

dense violet
#

might be 80?

dim shell
#

as i said earlier this game is so fun yet so confusing

heavy anvil
#

idk i suck at distances i feel like its longer than a football field

slender quest
#

At this point, I measure the distance in cable units required to connect power poles.

dense violet
dim shell
#

wait how do i use a biofuel burner? since its different than those attached to home?

dim shell
#

it has a weird input tho

dense violet
heavy anvil
dense violet
# dim shell it has a weird input tho

please just play around with things. You're in the pre tutorial. You'll figure it out much faster than asking a ton of questions because it'll take yo ua couple seconds of poking

unkempt blade
dim shell
#

oh okay thanks

dense violet
# dim shell oh okay thanks

just play with things, read tool tips and descriptions, look at your menus and build menus. Everything you need is there

dim shell
#

will do :)

#

OH MY GOD ITS ALL WORKING

slender quest
#

Enjoy

dim shell
#

i just have to add some containers and im good asf

heavy anvil
#

wait till you discover the joys of fluid mechanics

dim shell
#

i have to delete my constructor sincei placed it in like the worst place possible

#

now i just need a fully automatic copper

silk ocean
#

You're getting the hang, keep at it

#

Gets more fun imo once you get past the biomass burner phase of the game

neat owl
#

Why are people on at this time?

#

Is it because it's sunday?

silk ocean
#

13:45... SHOCKING TIME xD

neat owl
#

It's 7:44 AM

true mulch
neat owl
#

yes

#

Obviously

#

I was askin people in U.S time

silk ocean
#

I was up at 6am today, 07:44 doesn't seem unusual to me

true mulch
#

you asked "Why are people on at this time?", there's nothing about the US in your question

#

and even if, yeah

neat owl
silk ocean
#

In fact I was playing Satisfactory around 07:10

neat owl
#

6:06 for me

#

I was on that thing like a hyper tube from LGIO's game.

elfin stump
neat owl
#

YOU STARTED PHASE 2?

elfin stump
#

Only once in early access

#

Made it past

neat owl
#

No, I mean like, you put stuff in there.

dense violet
#

it's not even 11pm, not a weird time

neat owl
#

you said talk circles to you

dense violet
#

that's a sphere. F-

silk ocean
#

I wouldn't say any time on the 24-hour clock is a weird/strange time to play video games. I play at any hour

limpid cairn
silk ocean
#

Can't sleep at 4am? Fire it up

neat owl
dim shell
#

im back. Do i make a copper farm now?

elfin stump
obtuse rock
#

hello

dense violet
silk ocean
neat owl
#

Can anybody explain how to get out from under a conveyer belt mixed with ground?

#

I'm stuck.

silk ocean
#

Delete it?

oak sorrel
#

how did satis didnt get copyright for the cybertruck?

neat owl
#

And the respawn doesn't work

dim shell
neat owl
#

and my builder won't dismantale

obtuse rock
#

i have a question, the nitrogen gas need the pumps like liquids?

neat owl
#

And I just fell through the floor by dismantling it.

#

At least the respawn works now

neat owl
#

I JUST SAID IT DIDN'T WORK

silk rose
silk ocean
neat owl
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THAT WAS THE SECOND THING I SAID

silk ocean
dense violet
oak sorrel
silk rose
dim shell
oak sorrel
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nah that shh got the worst graphics ive seen

dim shell
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yes yes the game has a mechanic where conveyor belts can cry

neat owl
obtuse rock
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is anybody good at sorting out conveyors and stuff?

dense violet
obtuse rock
silk rose
dense violet
neat owl
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It wasn't caps lock

obtuse rock
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uhm

neat owl
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i was holding down shift

obtuse rock
dense violet
# obtuse rock uhm

it'll take longer to try to figure out what everything is doing , than just redoing it

silk rose
dense violet
obtuse rock
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nope

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i had some issue with foundations

neat owl
dense violet
obtuse rock
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every time i tried to build on foundations my buildings glitched

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now idk if there is still the bug

dense violet
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never heard of the bug. That's the first thing you should figure out. WDYM by 'glitched'?

obtuse rock
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they will just randomly disappear

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but it was lot of months ago

dense violet
obtuse rock
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i got back on satisfactory couple of days ago

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now looks like it's ok

silk rose
dense violet
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it's semi imposible to have anything like tidy belts w/o foundations.

obtuse rock
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welp, it's hard now that i play alone on this world :3

dense violet
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go around and mass dismantle πŸ™‚ it's fast enough

obtuse rock
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but everything will fall on the ground

dense violet
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?

obtuse rock
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i mean, all the items

dense violet
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?

obtuse rock
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will go in crates, it's going to be a very long job

dense violet
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dismantled items go in your inventory .

unkempt blade
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just keep some inventory space open as you dismantle...

silk rose
dense violet
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I'm sorry, are you actually wanting to fix things or just enjoying complaining?

obtuse rock
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8 slots avaiable :3

dense violet
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like if you just want to complain that's fine, but I don't want to spend my time trying to push you to do very small steps

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ok well if you can't figure out how to empty your inventory I wish you luck

obtuse rock
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i just asked...

unkempt blade
obtuse rock
dense violet
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I'm not being passive or aggressive. I'm pointing out you're wasting my time time by going 'it'll fall on the ground because inventory full'

because I fully believe you are clever enough to figure out how to solve that issue

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the solution is in the complaint. Don't have a full inventory

obtuse rock
dense violet
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well it's like you, someone who knows how to walk, asking me to explain how you put your next foot forward to take a step

outer hatch
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While the way CoD said it was... questionable, the core of the opinion is still valid.
Inventory management is a core skill to this game, and is a prerequisite to doing all the rest.

dense violet
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Assuming you know how to walk obviously. Apologies if you're in fact incapable.

dim shell
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my satisfactory started to lag all of a sudden once i placed a single power pole. Why?

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oh nvm it stopped

unkempt blade
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if you can type the same question into google as you do into discord and it gives you the right answer....

outer hatch
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True. But I prefer gentle ribbing to ... ahem, more forceful ways.

dim shell
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why is the space elevator so expensive...

dense violet
outer hatch
silk rose
dim shell
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ayy i finally did my copper farm jesus christ making a 200m conveyor belt was not fun 😭

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now i have automatized iron, cement and copper.

outer hatch
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By the same token, I do prefer to cynically manipulate people into being helped rather than butting heads. But it's a(n acquired) skill πŸ˜›

dense violet
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eh, not nearly enough brain to do that atm

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I'll tend to smarm at them until they deal with themselves

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but no brain for that either

outer hatch
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Again, understandable. In that case, disengaging is good too. (Or as the Xenoblade tutorial would put it "Running away is a valid tactic!")

unkempt blade
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in the case of games - there's a wiki and most really basic questions are answered there if the ingame help isn't enough for someone

dense violet
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which is why I wished them luck πŸ˜›

dim shell
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Hello guys. I automatized iron, copper and cement. Do i max out all of the weird researches in level 1 then move on to level 2?

unkempt blade
silk rose
dim shell
silk rose
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all the researches are for good

dim shell
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like the thing that unlocks you the map for example

dim shell
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okay i just need to make some copper wires then i can get terrrain research

dense violet
silk rose
dim shell
dense violet
silk rose
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mam is cool