satisfactory

[feral geyser]

Early game recipes are not too crazy with the math, and you get a good feel for what you need to build once you math it out

[heavy pine]

Belts will be limited by the slowest belt on the line

[white dawn]

You might benefit from following the "Indepdendency" strategy, btw: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency. Basically each factory only produces products which go to your own personal storage. Factory goes from ore -> final product, right near the ores it needs. So like maybe you have a 5/min Rotor factory going to your personal storage. That factory's done, and you never touch it again. If some other factory needs Rotors, just make more right inside that new factory

Can use production calculators/solvers like sftools (https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production) to do the math of production planning for you

[feral geyser]

Mergers will try to merge evenly, so it's not doing 90/30

[heavy pine]

Sometimes if I only want to get 60/min but want to get it there fast I'll put a mk.1 stub at the beginning of the line and then use my fastest belts for the rest.

[nocturne condor]

slowest belt is 120 and the system is being fed 120, technically the system can only take 3.9 smelters worth of items but i just started the system up fresh and running so it shouldn't BE backed up

[meager fern]

my problem is that if i have 240 or 270 iron per minute, and i cant figure out how to use exactly 240 or 270 iron, then everything breaks down as i have iron that is going to waste

[feral geyser]

If the belt you are trying to take 30 from has 60 on it, the merger is giving you 60+60

[meager fern]

i have to figure out how much production i need, when i dont know how much i need or can sustain

[nocturne condor]

yeah that would explain it then if thats the case. i assumed that if nothing is coming from the 30 line then it would just accept from the 90 line

[white dawn]

I highly recommend working backwards instead of forwards. Instead of saying "I have 240/min Iron Ore," say "I want to make 5/min rotors." Then you find out how much Iron Ore it takes to do that, and make that factory.

Don't worry about maxing out nodes; there's really no reason to do so

There are far more resources on the map than practically anyone needs

[feral geyser]

It's not "going to waste," it's just not being used. Those are different things

[white dawn]

(For instance, there's a total of 92,100/min Iron Ore on the map)

If a factory of yours only uses part of a node, you could always split the output of the node and have it feed two factories, if there's enough capacity there

But really, starting from the nodes and trying to "max them out" is a losing game. You can do it if you want in the early game, but as resources become more and more complex, it'll become nigh impossible

[feral geyser]

If the 30 line is empty, then yes, it will take the whole 90 line

[white dawn]

Remember too that the game wants you to expand outwards and start building more and more remote factories. So you'll be finding plenty of new nodes to exploit all the time. :)

(It's easiest to do that once you start getting some better logistics available, of course, like vehicles+trains+drones. I admit in the very early game you're likely to stay in one spot and probably double-dip on nodes quite a bit)

[meager fern]

the thing that gets me is that im going through all of this to avoid using screws, to try and save myself trouble(it doesnt seem to be), when i could just build something that looks interesting like #screenshots message but i also know that having that much space being used up for screws probably isnt the best in the long run

or i assume it isnt the best

i've always heard that screws arent great, and that its best to cut them out of the production line to 'simplify' things

[feral geyser]

Just like people have heard that Nickelback is trash

We had this discussion earlier

Screws aren't so bad

[heavy pine]

And that's phase 5 done. Maybe next time I'll use every recipe that requires screws. 😄

Lessons learned from this run; the game can't really handle a full on City Blocks type of setup, so don't go building out a grid that you're not using.

Drones don't fly like I'd expect them to. I've got my factory a couple hundred meters off the ground, and the drones like to fly down below the floor before heading to their destination rather than staying above everything the whole time.

[feral geyser]

They do try to fly as low as they can.

[white dawn]

Heh, yeah, as nyazsul said, there's nothing wrong with screws themselves. If using alt recipes which get rid of screw usage leaves you with a production plan whose resource requirements you like better than the with-screws version, then sure, go with that. But screws themselves are fine.

Most of the time, when people say they hate screws, it's just because they tried to centralize screw production and then move that high-volume resource around their factory using low-tier belts. And yeah, that will indeed suck. Don't centralize their production, in that case. :)

[heavy pine]

Incidentally, that run took about 330 hours of game runtime.

I don't think I'm gonna be showing off the game at a GDQ event any time soon. 😄

[feral geyser]

the recipes that use screws reward you with higher output rates than the other non-screw recipes

[meager fern]

when i used to make screws i did that setup that i linked, and i only produced as many screws as i needed, in quantities it could be moved in, in areas they were actually used in recipes

[feral geyser]

case in point : Bolted Plates and Frames

[nocturne condor]

I fixed the issue, i realized I over thunk it, i didnt need to drag the 30 into the mix as it was needed only for one iron machine so i just did a direct connection lol

[feral geyser]

that would fix it lol

[nocturne condor]

Now i just gotta do this.. uh.. again...

[feral geyser]

Blueprint it

[nocturne condor]

there are blueprints?

[meager fern]

yeah, you need to unlock a building for it. i just started making some to save myself some headache

[feral geyser]

Yeah, you unlock it in tier 4

[meager fern]

tier 4, first unlock ficsit blueprint

[feral geyser]

Rush up to it and save yourself a lot of repetitive setups

[heavy pine]

Last time I farted around with belts to get specific amounts I dumped a bunch of concrete into a storage container and used that as my source then had other storage containers taking up the outputs, and had belt monitors in key places to make sure it was working the way I expected it to.

[limber plaza]

exactly what i just did today finished phase 3 got aluminum and mk 3 miners

[feral geyser]

if it works, it ain''t dumb

[nocturne condor]

im currently unlocking steel so its gonna be a minute still. but i mean i spent like an hour and a half setting up a system that gives me 4 rotors a minute, 2 frames a minute and 2 smart plating a minute. yeah that.. was worth it.. (of course i tore everything down to redo it all and make it look better and more efficient)

[heavy pine]

I think I need to make some blueprints that have Mk.6 belts connected to everything, make plopping down facilities in the later game faster.

[feral geyser]

my generic machine cell BPs all have Mk1 belts and i upgrade as needed depending on what's being made

[limber plaza]

i just went around getting hds and u get alot of items u need already made, i also completed the alien stuff in the mam to dupe whatever i craft with sloops just a tip that might speed things up a bit for you

[heavy pine]

Keep in mind that you don't need the Smart Plating for any buildings, it's only used for the space elevator. It'll be used in later phases to build more complicated parts.

[nocturne condor]

I figured, i just was getting it automated to build up a reserve for later, better get it going now and to get it ready for the space elevator than do it later

[heavy pine]

That's kind of what I do. My basic blueprint has a splitter feeding two Mk.1 conveyer lifts that go into the machines, then conveyer lifts to bring them back down below the floor and into mergers. I lay down as many as I need in a row, connect them with whatever speed of belt is appropriate for the input and output spines, and put a merger at the end of the output.

Another thing I think I'll try to do next time is not allow myself to do temporary box crafting for the space elevator stuff. Set up proper automation and such.

[cunning siren]

If one turtles at phase 1 and turns in hard drives can both +6 inventorys be got early?

[feral geyser]

One is available at the beginning, the other at Tier 6

[nocturne condor]

#screenshots message I mean it looks nice at least

[unkempt blade]

I was thinking one of the two got added to the pool in a later phase but I'd have to check the wiki

[cunning siren]

I think I got all the good Tier 1 recipes I can get without MAM resarch and I'm not even sure there are any with resarch

[feral geyser]

I just did

[unkempt blade]

whoops, slow brain tonight 😄

[meager fern]

well i guess all in all my setup isnt too awful, besides being unsightly. after leaving it long enough all of the machines are running properly, so its not a failure

[heavy pine]

It's only really a failure if you haven't learned from the experience.

[unkempt blade]

yeah or if you used insufficient factory carts

[meager fern]

i havent learned anything from it, i just ended up giving up on balancing and doing a manifold

[peak wasp]

oh I just live in a dangerous area (Blue Crater) so yeah want stuff dead

[unkempt blade]

that counts as learning

[heavy pine]

I did have a few carts running around in a path around my HUB in my game.

[cunning siren]

I gotz 2 lizards in mah base

[feral geyser]

What are their names?

[heavy pine]

Sometimes the lesson you learn is to not overcomplicate things.

I wouldn't want to use a manifold for nuclear power, but they work quite well elsewhere.

[white dawn]

Sometimes the real lesson you learn is the friends you made along the way

[feral geyser]

Joke's on you, I don't have friends

[meager fern]

i have gotten my basic blueprints set up. a bunch of smelters, a bunch of contructors, 1:1 smelter+contructor, 1:2 smelter+constructor

[heavy pine]

I only had the one lizard doggo. I named him George.

[meager fern]

its so much easier to line up constructors and smelters when you have the constructors set up first

[cunning siren]

I don't name them 🤷

[feral geyser]

Bro gives them a number and throws them in a cell

[heavy pine]

And I will pet him and love him and shove him in a glass cage and call him George.

[white dawn]

I bet you made some hog friends before they met an untimely end

[cunning siren]

I'll name the first one that gives me a computer... computer

[meager fern]

i fill mine up with uranium and shove him into the void

[unkempt blade]

it's like IRL pets, if you don't do the glass cage they wander into traffic or clip into the ground or something

[feral geyser]

Someone call the cops

[cunning siren]

And the first one to give me Steel Pipe... Steel Pipe

And so on

[meager fern]

any other recommendations for useful early game blueprints?(wrong reply, i meant to reply to my list of basic blueprints)

[heavy pine]

Yeah, he fell below the map at one point. Had to use the save editor on SCIM to bring him back up.

[cunning siren]

Standard manifolds are handy

[feral geyser]

Simple levelers

2:2, 2:3, 3:2, 3:3, etc

[cunning siren]

Foundations with power connections are good too

[winter ruin]

Does anyone know a way I could connect the top and bottom tracks in #screenshots so trains can easily switch?

[meager fern]

ill have to look that up i dont think i know levelers. only balancers

[unkempt blade]

if you find yourself making the same pattern a few times already you can usually assume it'll happen again and blueprint it

[meager fern]

these are the only ones i have consistently made up to making computers

[feral geyser]

This is the idea behind a 2:2

[meager fern]

and then manufacturers hurt my brain and i stopped playing for awhile

[feral geyser]

Coal gens are a good BP too, and fuel gens once you get them

Make blocks of three with all the pipes, belts, and power lines ready.

[meager fern]

oh yeah i guess coal would be a good one so i can stop having to manually put all of it out

[nocturne condor]

steel production researched. guess its time to build a truck, find coal and get automated power going, im sick of biofuel

[cunning siren]

What is the phase 2 turtle strat? 🤔

or is that not a thing

[feral geyser]

You got this

You'll figure it out

[meager fern]

is this a good coal gen bp #screenshots message?

[unkempt blade]

I'm not sure what I'd normally be hunting then besides solid steel ingots and encased pipes

[cunning siren]

I want blade runners pretty bad about now 😆 must resist!

[feral geyser]

Hell yeah it is 😎

Maybe put junctions on the end ones too, so that you can join pipes easier when you build modular

[meager fern]

ah yeah thats a good idea, thanks

[nocturne condor]

could the tractor headlights be a little worse? thanks!

[meager fern]

i probably should've put a floor under it so i didnt have to place those everytime

oh wait no room(i think?)

[feral geyser]

I mean, I usually build the floors before I build machines anyway

The only time floors in my blueprint is if I am using floor holes.

And even then, you don't have to, you can nudge them down into the floor

[unkempt blade]

I do floors if I intend it to be stackable (usually when there are some walls involved too)

[meager fern]

should i make another blueprint with just 2 coal gens since i always build in groups of 8? 3+3+2. or should i just place the last 2 manually or just deconstruct one of the coal gens from my blueprint

[atomic notch]

Just to build on at least can always delete later

Scaffolding

[feral geyser]

I would build by 3s and just remove one.

[meager fern]

i know some people who build a 4x4 floor blueprint, so they can just place those down instead of having to manually place floors even with zoop

[echo spoke]

Wait if I make a 4x4 blueprint can I still zoop it?

[sullen gull]

unfortunately not

[feral geyser]

blueprint zooping is only a mod

[feral geyser]

I mean, 2d zoop is a thing (in mods)

We loves a few QoL mods around here

[fresh copper]

what uses 15mw and what uses 30 (those are the only fluctuations left on my grid)

[feral geyser]

Refinery uses 30

[fresh copper]

dont have any on that grid

its entireely phase 2 stuff

[meager fern]

any notes for this smelter bp #screenshots message?

[feral geyser]

Assembler = 15 MW, maybe two of those?

[feral geyser]

That looks sick to me

Those belts are technically a balancer, you could do a stacked grouped manifold.

#screenshots message

[white dawn]

One trick for power hookups is that you can use buildables like beams to clip "into" the buildings, place wall power sockets on the beams so that they "look" like they attach to the buildings, and then remove the beams. Hook the socket up to the machine, and the sockets to each other, and you've got a real convenient daisy-chained power setup

[feral geyser]

Like this, basically the manifold line goes above the splitters, and a lift feeds down to the splitter feeding the machines

[white dawn]

(requires having unlocked both beams + wall sockets from the AWESOME shop, of course)

And of course takes some experimentation to find a socket placement that looks good to you. :)

[meager fern]

for now im fairly happy with my power poles on the splitters, although im sure there will be situations later where i'll have belts that i want to run through those areas

[sullen gull]

I've been using wall outlets nudges into the machines to hide the wires 😏

[boreal musk]

i yearn for vanilla blueprint zoop and mass bp dismantle mode

[meager fern]

bp dismantle mode would be a god send

you can place down a bunch of stuff, but have to kind of manually remove it all

[sullen gull]

There is a bp dismantle.

Just not a "mass" bp dismantle.

Press R when in dismantle mode.

[meager fern]

oh i see

idk if they couldnt do that because of performance issues, or if they thought it would be too easy, or what

[sullen gull]

My guess is performance. 🤷‍♂️ . I believe there is also a mod for that. Not sure how well it works though.

[boreal musk]

im using infinite dismantling mod in my current save

it allows mass bp dismantling too

[meager fern]

that removes the 50 structure limit?

[sullen gull]

Any performance "issues" ?

[boreal musk]

yes, instead of 50 its 100000

[frozen jacinth]

i decided to clean up my power grid before oil... i cannot restart my factory.... i am sad

[boreal musk]

not really noticeable from my end

[meager fern]

thats why you need to have your power generation on a seperate grid, so you can start it up by itself

[placid stirrup]

Rookie mistake

[sullen gull]

You "could" use an old save and some SCIM foo to get it back 🤣

[hidden merlin]

first grid trip, more to come

[frozen jacinth]

i feel like i need to fix it myself.... so oil will have to wait

[sullen gull]

Though, I am asking coming from just recently playing with the mega blueprint designer, and there are a couple that take a loooong time to place or delete 🤣

[placid stirrup]

1 belt mistake into the 300GW nuclear plant later

[sullen gull]

Was electro magnetic control rods for me 🤦‍♂️ 🤣

[placid stirrup]

On which factory 😳

[sullen gull]

Nuke

42 npps' 🤣

[hidden merlin]

am scared of grass, will there be other way to generate electricity later in the game?

[feral geyser]

Coal, fuel, geothermal, or nuclear

[placid stirrup]

We're talking about nuclear literally right now haha

[sullen gull]

Waste backed up like crazy. wasn't getting enough EMR's from the drone 😒

[hidden merlin]

thank god

[feral geyser]

Coal will come first, you'll need water for it

Most coal is kinda near water

[hidden merlin]

my base is already architectures nightmare rn and am just getting started

[placid stirrup]

Oh for processing into p.rods gotcha. Yeah we're implementing the storage "solution" for now hahaha

[sullen gull]

Cool tricks, hold E when running around (before getting chainsaw), and research alien tech nology early and use sloops on the machines making biomass and solid/liquid bio fuel.

[meager fern]

its a good thing that efficiency is an engineers perview

[hidden merlin]

interesting that is

[placid stirrup]

I become suspicious of any new player whose first factory isn't spaghetti madness

[sullen gull]

Yeah, I can't do it lol. I wasn't burning the rods though. Just sinking and using for drone fuel 😏

[hidden merlin]

I SWEAR ill fix it later

[hexed phoenix]

☝️ A little cool trick with collecting Biom stuff..

Hold "E" and open Inventory - release "E" but the game still thinks you have E pressed.. And now just run around and collect leaves and wood

[sullen gull]

Does that still work? Thought that was "fixed"?

[hexed phoenix]

Must have been recent then.. Was working some 2-3 weeks ago when i started a new save game

[meager fern]

you would've been suspicious of me. there was no spaghetti, i was just really space inefficient. 4-8 machines on a floor, fed to the wall, got belted up to the next floor, and i continued doing each step on another floor

[boreal musk]

its not just inventory tab, you can do the trick with opening build tab Q or hotbar with 1-0 key

[sullen gull]

Ahh, I'm not sure either tbh. Haven't had to do it in a long while now 🤣

[hexed phoenix]

Still works - just tested :)

[meager fern]

and then at the end, all of my machines fed into a wall, got brought all the way to the bottom floor, where i would take 20 containers on top of eachother and have thousands of every resource stockpiled

[hidden merlin]

i think ill research chainsaw

[fresh copper]

theres like 19mw of rare flux on my grid 💀

im never gonna find it i should just move on from that

[rain drum]

I, for the life of me, cannot get back into satisfactory. I completed the game in like 187hrs, and now brain just ~refuses~ to let me play it anymore. I've tried.

[sullen gull]

I guess I would say mine was "well organized" lasagna on my first play through 🤣

[hidden merlin]

is that just 1 planet or all

[feral geyser]

19 MW is an Assembler and a Constructor

[sullen gull]

There is only 1 planet?

[feral geyser]

15+4

[hidden merlin]

wait what, there was multiple places to choose

[meager fern]

those are different areas on the same map

[hidden merlin]

or am i tripping

[fresh copper]

yeah probably

[sullen gull]

All the same planet. Just different areas of the map

[hidden merlin]

oh so its just like starting point?

[meager fern]

yeah

[fresh copper]

cant freakin find it lol

[hidden merlin]

oh well

[rain drum]

I thought the same thing XD the ~same~ thing.

[meager fern]

if you run around you can find every starting zone

[sullen gull]

And, depending on how you want to play, probably advantageous to do so as well.

[white dawn]

Swamp Start for a good time!

[meager fern]

all of the starting zones have something worth getting(except the grass fields, all my homies hate grass fields)

[sullen gull]

Sometimes I like to do that instead of drinking my sorrows aways 😏

[hidden merlin]

well i hate grass too, but i also started at grass field

[plain gate]

• red forest!

[sullen gull]

Grass fields are ok, but probably the one with the nodes spread the farthest.

[meager fern]

im pretty sure all the starter nodes are impure

[sullen gull]

Rocky Desert always gets my vote.

[meager fern]

i hate the red forest, there are too many spiders

[sullen gull]

You start in random locations within the biome. But they all have their share of pure/normal/impure, within where you start.

[warm cipher]

well there is one area with 3 normal nodes, however that's still not awesome, not to mention that, again, every nearby node is bad

[placid stirrup]

Plan is to end with a giant project assembly factory for the final payload in GF

[feral geyser]

impure nodes aren't so bad for early early game before you get splitters

cuz you can't handle more than 30/min on a single belt without splitters anyway

[meager fern]

pure nodes or bust

[placid stirrup]

Northern Forest has 4 pure iron

[warm cipher]

however if you want to do anything after that point, you basically need to go somewhere else if you want anything worthwhile

[white dawn]

Plus, then once you've got better miners+belts and such at your disposal, all the "better" nodes are sitting there untouched and ready for you!

[warm cipher]

i was talking specifically about the grassy fields

[sullen gull]

Guess what, two normal make a pure! 😛

[white dawn]

Leave them piddly little starter factories to the Impures and move on, etc. :D

[limber plaza]

i always start up top with 4 iron pure nodes 1 limestone pure node and 2 copper pure nodes

[placid stirrup]

Ohhh sorry

[feral geyser]

i mean, when you have 8 impure nodes, that's the same as 2 pures

[meager fern]

and 8 impure nodes is worse than 4 pures

[hidden merlin]

#screenshots message

[feral geyser]

just cost more power for the miners

[feral geyser]

i know, i agree

[warm cipher]

yeah but 4 pure nodes (in just one spot in the northern forest) is 16 impures

probably more space and sanity efficient

[feral geyser]

all my homies pick Rocky Desert

[limber plaza]

exactly where im at lol

[feral geyser]

that one has really good nodes too

[meager fern]

too bad they got rid of the quartz by the 4 iron nodes in northern forest. i will never forgive coffeestain

[unkempt blade]

what this game really need is extra-impure nodes

[feral geyser]

plus it's easier to build in

[warm cipher]

pov: 15/min

[meager fern]

1 ore per minute, only good for using the manual drills

[unkempt blade]

yeah but let us overclock them to 2.5/min

[boreal musk]

northen forest ftw (6+4 pure nodes of iron)

[meager fern]

and you dont even have to deal with the flying crabs anymore(i think)

[hidden merlin]

how many solid biofuel should i keep in my chainsaw?

[sullen gull]

Protip, hold C anytime when approaching. From land or air, they won't open.

[white dawn]

I just keep a stack in my inventory and then when it starts getting low I top off the stack

[sullen gull]

I usually just keep one stack on me

[meager fern]

protip if you have the rebar gun, and are dealing with a regular nest, rapid reloading allows you to take it out before they spawn

you just have to hit reload as soon as you can, and fire again as soon as you can

[sullen gull]

Rifle does it better 🙂

[meager fern]

rifle is also not until plastic

[sullen gull]

Rifle with standard ammo = ❤️ 😏

[sullen gull]

Fair.

[hidden merlin]

uh how many can u keep in 1 stack of em?

[sullen gull]

200

[hidden merlin]

o

[meager fern]

the hold c tip is good for the elite ones, those spawn so many crabs, and take so many shots

[boreal musk]

no need to crouch if theyre already dead from my nuke

[sullen gull]

But, even when you are beating on them with the starter weapon, they won't open while holding C 🙂

[hidden merlin]

what should i look out and be cautious to when am walking around?

[meager fern]

spiders, poison, poison plants, spitters, hogs, basically everything

[placid stirrup]

You can survive poison for a bit if you need to

[sullen gull]

gather all the ore deposits you see, avoid caves until you have better weapons, swamp, red forest ...

[nocturne condor]

me with my tractor when I see a hog 'driving in my car right after a beer'

[sullen gull]

Oh, yeah, you're also safe in/on vehicles.

[placid stirrup]

Your beer might have had some LSD in it

[meager fern]

except from poison, unless they changed that

[nocturne condor]

Ficsit mandated!

[hidden merlin]

am scared of everything in this game dawg

[boreal musk]

youre invincible inside vehicle

[meager fern]

they removed poison damage inside vehicles? pre 1.0 i died several times driving through fart rocks

[feral geyser]

it looks like you need a munitions factory

[hidden merlin]

me no have vehicle :<

[placid stirrup]

You can pretty much run away from anything with ease, especially if you have blade runners

[nocturne condor]

this base builder is one of the least scary enemies and one of the reasons I like it. no biters attacking your base like in factorio, no dark fog like in dyson sphere program (i love both of those games but dislike the base defense parts). just take your zapper and bunny hop the hogs!

[white dawn]

Nuke hogs can be awfully persistent if you can't find some height to escape to. :D

[hidden merlin]

ive set for creature to not attack me unless i attack em

[boreal musk]

nuke it until it stopped charging at you

[white dawn]

Can also create a "combat bunker" blueprint which you can keep on your hotbar and deploy with a single click. Then poke away at the enemy mobs in safety. :)

Or that, yeah

Combat's not seen as a primary gameplay loop, hence the options to totally disable it in the menus

[meager fern]

too bad they scrapped the crab queen boss idea, i was really hopeful for that

[hidden merlin]

am i safe from all of em or will there still be some that attack me?

[hidden merlin]

well, can i borrow some nukes?

[sullen gull]

Go gather some berries, tame a lizard doggo, and they may bring you a few 😏

[meager fern]

or they may bring you uranium

[hidden merlin]

235 or 238

[placid stirrup]

Yeah retaliate is fantastic. Then it's just uranium, poison, and hatchers that can get ya

I guess gravity, too

[meager fern]

whichever one is more likely to boil your blood and melt your flesh

[placid stirrup]

Which one is depleted

[hidden merlin]

hmmm idk i forgot been a while sicne i did a research

[placid stirrup]

Then y u ask

[meager fern]

235 is the worse one, so its uranium 235

standing near it irradiates you, and then kills you

[hidden merlin]

🤷‍♂️

[atomic crest]

I know for the longest time nuclear power was considered not viable, has this changed at all?

[sullen gull]

Pretty sure that is a bug that was fixed

[atomic crest]

I dont have rocket or ionized fuel for power

[meager fern]

what? you're saying that my doggo wasnt supposed to bring me uranium

[sullen gull]

Nuclear is very viable. Up to plutonium. Going all the way to ficsonium can be negligible

[meager fern]

once you get all the stuff unlocked, and put in quite a bit of work you can dipose of any dangerous materials making it basically free power

[atomic crest]

Ok cool, how much should should invest into it

[sullen gull]

Just recently?

[sullen gull]

As much time and effort as you like! 🙂

[hidden merlin]

well thats a shame

[white dawn]

My advice would be to plug some numbers for fuel rod production into a calculator like sftools (https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production) and see how big the production chains get.

[sullen gull]

I meeean, my current "plan" uses ~240 something reactors ... 🤣

[white dawn]

And then just modify your plans to suit whatever size power generation you're willing to build out

[meager fern]

no i'm sad that it wasnt ever intended. it was beautiful

[white dawn]

(Note that if you do purify to Plutonium (which I do highly recommend, whether you sink it or burn it) or Ficsonium (which I am a fan of, but is not for everyone), if you're using sftools for planning, you need to specify how much Waste from the previous step you have, in the Inputs tab)

[sullen gull]

I mean according to the wiki, it's not an item, and I though I remember readon a patch note on it. I could be wrong though

[atomic crest]

I dont need much power

My whole grid currently is less then 10mw

[sullen gull]

I havn't used tools in some time, but was there ever a way added to have it overclock as well?

[sullen gull]

Very famous last words 😏

[atomic crest]

Im a very slow player

My world is 158 hours

[sullen gull]

Heh, I had 1900+ hours in my last save before finishing p5 😛

Though, that was, the third time think .

[placid stirrup]

@atomic crest 10MW is half a HUB burner

[white dawn]

sftools doesn't get into implementation details, no

[atomic crest]

10000

[meager fern]

thats a bit more than 10MW

[white dawn]

If it says you need 5x Assemblers, you could put down 5 at standard clocking, 2 at 250%, or any other configuration so long as you have 500% in total

[boreal musk]

thats 10gw

[atomic crest]

Just double checking i should go to plutonium?

[white dawn]

As with everything in this game, "should" is a question only you can answer

[sullen gull]

At the very least, you can sink the rods. Or use them as drone fuel .

[atomic crest]

I dont have plutonium unlocked yet

[leaden dome]

If you’re doing nuclear then yeah

[white dawn]

But I personally think that Plutonium is worth it, whether you sink the rods or burn 'em for more power

[leaden dome]

No sense in just letting waste pile up

[white dawn]

It's fine to do Uranium only -- the main downside is that it generates waste like 10x more quickly than Plutonium does, so you need more storage

[leaden dome]

It can only go wrong

[atomic crest]

I dont have plutonium unlocked yet

[white dawn]

You can always build out Uranium first, make sure you've got like a hundred hours of storage for the waste, and then build out Plutonium processing later

[feral geyser]

i will not touch nuclear until i have the entire chain prepared all the way to Ficsonium

[white dawn]

I'm fond of "clean" (wasteless) Nuclear solutions in the game, but waste storage really isn't the problem a lot of folks fear it'll be, even with the faster Uranium Waste production

[atomic crest]

Ive never done nuclear power in satisfactory b4

[white dawn]

Just pick a site offshore somewhere, calculate how much time a single ISC gets you, and then get to blueprinting those ISC arrays. :)

[cunning siren]

Need 5 more computer for phase one manual depot uploader 😆 seems good 🤔

[white dawn]

It's not hard to give yourself literally hundreds of hours of worry-free waste accumulation. :)

[feral geyser]

whats the max count that can fit in a Mk3 blueprinter

[cunning siren]

Got 3x doggos... maybe they'll be kind

[leaden dome]

I mean it’s not like waste storage is unacceptable it’s what you had to do for a while

[feral geyser]

i know for Power Storages, it's 256

[sullen gull]

Lol, a lot 🤣

[atomic crest]

So 1 manufacturer of uranium rods does 2 power plants

While needing almost every resource inthe game

[leaden dome]

but when you have the option to either allow waste to pile up and potentially clog your reactors, or to not do that, I feel like the choice is pretty easy

[sullen gull]

@feral geyser #design-and-architecture message

[feral geyser]

borg

[cunning siren]

I recall the first time doing Nuclear, was super paranoid and made a massive box system in the corner of map in the sky 😆

[atomic crest]

Is there an area of the map that is good for building nuclear

[feral geyser]

@karmic shoal wtf is going on in that screenshot??

[feral geyser]

rocky desert, top-of-the-world node

[atomic crest]

I mean more sort of the other 7 things i need

[feral geyser]

which things?

[karmic shoal]

well, lift holes seem to be bugged, you can somehow add a splitter to them which causes it to go crazy

[atomic crest]

Caterium, copper, coal, iron, limestone, water and sulfur

[feral geyser]

yeah, it's all there. Caterium is in the grotto right below that node, sulfur is a few hundred meters away to the west. Coal, copper, and iron by the shore of the bay to the east. limestone all around. if you place them cleverly, you can fit 3 water extractors in the pool in that grotto as well, and just overclock the hell out of them

[feral geyser]

i've never seen it that bad, that's crazy

[sullen gull]

Sure you didn't accidently add it to a lift that was already placed, right near the lift hole?

[karmic shoal]

Disregard, I did exactly that

it attached to the lift under it

[sullen gull]

Lol. I was curious because I have actually tried to attach them to the floor holes 🤣

Never could

[feral geyser]

you can snap splitters/mergers to a lift head that is coming out of a floor hole

[sullen gull]

Just not the hole itself 😏

[karmic shoal]

in the process of doing that, the lift goes horizontal. Is that intended?

[feral geyser]

you'll have to show me it happening, cuz that's never happened to me

[karmic shoal]

just snap the splitter on the lift, and add a lift to the top of that splitter, and you should be able to do it horizontally

[feral geyser]

Well, I'm watching Return of the King, so I'm not loading up the game to test it

They're wheeling Grond up to the gates right now

Uuhhh, so i still don't get how the splitter rotated like that.

[feral geyser]

That doesn't happen when I do it. Is that lift going into the bottom of the splitter? How? It doesn't snap like that normally.

[sullen gull]

I tried it here too, but maybe I wasn't "doing it right" 😏

[karmic shoal]

Lift is going into the bottom of the splitter, it somehow just snaps into place, you have to play with the position a bit

[feral geyser]

Hmmm

That's just wrong, man

A horizontal lift is just... unnatural.

Wait

[sullen gull]

Unless maybe if it's a Mk6 ... may be able to allow it 🤣

[feral geyser]

Can you ride a horizontal lift??

[meager fern]

can you ride a horizontal lift

[topaz coral]

just tried unfortunately no 😢

[feral geyser]

Bruh

Devs, let us ride lifts 😭

[topaz coral]

they gave us the elevator i'm honestly good w that

[meager fern]

elevators are pretty pog

[topaz coral]

now if only i could get that height maximum increased

[harsh terrace]

Yo

guys I have a problem on my world anyones free to help?

I really need help I have only smn like 200 hrs so

[topaz coral]

what's the problem? (i freely admit that i am not like the most knowledgeable but i'll help if i can)

waiting for a manifold to fill so i'm free rn

[harsh terrace]

Can I screenshare?

I sent you a dm request

@topaz coral

[sullen gull]

There is apparantly a way to get "infinite" elevators in vanilla I thought? Not sure what it so though. Just thought I read something about it.

[cunning glade]

So can u not use explosive rebar with the rebar gun?

[feral geyser]

You can

Hold R to switch ammo types

[cunning glade]

I see

It would be cool too tell u that when u pull it out

[dim flint]

I guess crashing is one way to say I should go to sleep.

[feral geyser]

thank god for autosaves

[sullen gull]

I keep thinking this too ... and damn steam keeps giving me that send/restart option 🤣

[meager fern]

yeah i've been getting a few crashes, especially on tab outs

[sullen gull]

I was crashing a good bit earlier. But that's because I was messing about with ram settings 😏

[meager fern]

i dont get whats causing them, i havent had any lag. i'm not messing around with any settings and my world is fairly empty

[sullen gull]

Can try making a post in #1038092680493801533 with the crash log

[meager fern]

is there a folder those are stored in or do i have to wait for it to crash again?

[cunning glade]

How many free turbo motors can I get

[sullen gull]

C:\Users<User>\AppData\Local\FactoryGame\Saved\Logs

[feral geyser]

technically infinite with doggos

[sullen gull]

Err, no

[cunning glade]

True

[sullen gull]

@meager fern C:\Users<users>\AppData\Local\FactoryGame\Saved\Crashes\

[feral geyser]

when they do bring them, they bring 9

[sullen gull]

And there should be a folder for each crash. The FactoryGame.log file has the info you're looking for

[real shale]

S

[cunning glade]

I see

I'm gonna get a few more dogs then

I just wanna unlock mk3 miners

[feral geyser]

i mean, it will be a very long time to get any decent amount

[sullen gull]

You can always go hunt (more) hard drive sites too

[feral geyser]

or, you'll need a shitload of doggos

[cunning glade]

So many fucking rad hogs omg

[cunning glade]

Already at 36

I only need 50 right?

[cunning glade]

That's what I'm doing

[sullen gull]

Use @white dawn's idea and make a "combat hut" bp

[feral geyser]

i have one if you want

[cunning glade]

I need some supercomputers too tho I think

[sullen gull]

Gotcha. I know you said before you didn't care about the items lol

[feral geyser]

well, not a "combat" hut, but a safe house

[white dawn]

Heh, I may have brought it up but I cannot lay claim to the actual idea. :D I got it from some other by-now unknown-to-me commenter here. :P

[cunning glade]

Just low tier that I already have automated

Is what I meant

Anything aluminum and up I grab

[sullen gull]

If you use the Walls with conveyor holes and can shoot through them 🙂

[cunning glade]

And because of that I think I get mk3 miners and mk5 belts before doing any aluminum

[sullen gull]

Just remember though, you'll still need turbo motors to make the mk3 miner iirc

[cunning glade]

Probs but I only need 3

I assume I'll find more

But that lets me make them atleast

Okay I'm full health

[sullen gull]

Ohh, make some inhalers too 😛

[feral geyser]

would you like a field shack blueprint?

[cunning glade]

Me?

[feral geyser]

yes, but also anybody

[cunning glade]

I've been thinking about this

[cunning glade]

I mean if u send it too me I ain't gonna say no🤷

Free bps are free bps

Ark taught me that

[sullen gull]

Rip inbox 🤣

[feral geyser]

i wish we could share them here, but rules say no

[cunning glade]

Are there spiders in the like pink red Forest

Big ones

Frick

[feral geyser]

oh yeah there are

[cunning glade]

Frick I can't see shit on the ground

Good thing I don't touch the ground

What biomes have the big spiders and is there a map with the biomes I'm curious what the biomes are actually called

[sullen gull]

SCIM

[real shale]

Scim

[feral geyser]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/World

[real shale]

The second I see a green spider I start blasting it

[feral geyser]

okay, Danny DeVito

[meager fern]

the second i see anything larger than a tiny spider i start running

[limber plaza]

spiders ez to kill but i run still as well lol

[cunning glade]

I thoroughly do not enjoy the big spiders

[meager fern]

#satisfactory message

[cunning glade]

Especially mid jam too music the game is so peaceful till then

[real shale]

See I would run but it seems these things like to chase me halfway across the map before giving up

[sullen gull]

Lol, don't go searching through screenshots then 🤣 . I had two that were bugged and kept growing and growing 🤣

[cunning glade]

But I think turning them into cats sucks

Too many meows

Likes it's cool at first

[sullen gull]

I just leave it on retaliate anymore.

[meager fern]

turning them into cats doesnt help when they decide to leap at me. know your place, trash

[cunning glade]

And cute

[feral geyser]

you gotta grab two rifles, several stacks of your favorite nobs, put on the Sanctum tape on the boombox, and just go slaughter

[meager fern]

do you know whats scarier than a spider? hearing a bunch of meowing and then seeing 10 cats scuttling at you at mach 5

with normal spiders you can hear them scuttling when they get close. but with the cats you can hear them meowing from(it feels like) farther away, so you know there are there, somewhere

[tranquil dragon]

I feel legacy textures/models would be cool awesome shop purchaseables

[tranquil dragon]

Also you cant tell what the fuck theyre doing either bc its just a static png

I honestly found cats scarier to start with, but now that I know how to handle em I just keep it on bc its funny

[cunning glade]

It's cuz there under the map u can hear them anywhere on the map that's why I dislike it

[meager fern]

and the worst part is that they arent just in the same spots all the time. there is that one area ouitside the 4 pure iron node northern forest area where they have a spawn location at night thats the same as some fluffy hogs

i've taken to leaving the fluffy hogs alone, because they deal with the spiders for me

[feral geyser]

the enemy of my enemy is my friend

[meager fern]

what about the enemy of your enemies enemy?

[feral geyser]

that would be themselves

think, man, think

[meager fern]

you dont know that. how do you know there isnt another even greater threat, so you need to be friends with your enemy and your enemies enemy to deal with your enemies enemies enemy

[feral geyser]

what is this, the Battle of Five Armies?

[cunning glade]

Okay got 50 turbo motors

[meager fern]

well so far we only have 4 armies, so it would make for a pretty poor 5 armies

we have us, our enemy, our enemies enemy, and our enemies enemies enemy

[feral geyser]

🥴

[cunning glade]

So I'm dumb

I need fused frames or some stuff

I got 44 tho so only need 6

Mk5 tho so that's one thing I needed

Okay so actually if I unlock supercomputers I can get them thru coupons

That's funny it does that

And then I just need 6 more frames

Well just got 8

Also need 12 more of the casing

Okay I lied ig I can't

[feral geyser]

you don't have aluminum made to just make them yourself?

[cunning glade]

I mean supercomputers

And no I haven't made it yet

Okay they aren't that bad

[earnest oak]

why is the difference between stage 2 and 3 so big 😭 im genuinly concerned

[feral geyser]

mainly cuz refineries

[cunning glade]

I'm trying too get mk5 and mk3 miners too make the factory for it

[feral geyser]

the ol' catch-22

[cunning glade]

Prolly not the best but I don't wanna have too re do it

[earnest oak]

still tho like its crazy expensive and you only get like 1 or 2 items/min

[cunning glade]

Stage 3 ain't even bad lmao

Phase 4 is where it gets real

[earnest oak]

i know thats why im concerned lmao

[cunning glade]

Okay gonna oc the hell out of 2 manufacturers and sloop them

It'll take 10 mins roughly not that bad

Enough time too do a dab sounds good too me

[earnest oak]

icl doggos carried early stage 3

i got so many items from them

[cunning glade]

Already half way

I have like 2500 aluminum min too work with

And done

And I have enough stuff too make atleast 4 of them

I'll have too make a little bit of aluminum for belts on site

But overall not too bad

I got another 10 drives too let's go

Oh

I have all the alts I can have

[vocal wolf]

no porblem

[earnest oak]

THANKS 🙏

how many heavy mod frames/min is recomended when i just unlocked them

[prime rampart]

could someone check screenshots and tell me how am i supposed to expoand this

[feral geyser]

oh boy, a refinery virgin

[feral geyser]

5-10 is a decent goal for just unlocked

[feral geyser]

i assume you are making just fuel right now? and storing polymer resins?

[prime rampart]

yes

i did the math one normal crudE oil could run 4 fuel generators

[feral geyser]

i forget, is that one normal or pure?

[prime rampart]

normal

[feral geyser]

so then make 10 refineries

5 on plastic, 5 on rubber, regular recipe

[prime rampart]

huh

[feral geyser]

then make 3 refineries turning the heavy residue into residual fuel

[prime rampart]

tiem for noodle

[feral geyser]

you should get 100 fuel out of that

which can run 5 gens

plus 100/min each of plastic and rubber from the other refineries

[prime rampart]

what am i supposed to do if those fill up

[feral geyser]

you can put an overflow splitter before the container, so once it fills, it sends the rest to a sink

[prime rampart]

OH MY GOD SMARTTTTTTT

[feral geyser]

i gotchu bruv

[prime rampart]

what an overflow splitter though

[feral geyser]

Smart Splitter, with one output set to overflow

(if you don't have that yet, check the Caterium chain in the MAM)

[prime rampart]

i dont have it

[feral geyser]

those are gonna be super critical for refinery setups

[frozen shoal]

Devs really need to fix 1.1. it's full of bugs and crashes non-stop

[feral geyser]

cuz you gotta handle the byproducts unless you want it to shut down

[frozen shoal]

Or take linux support off the game. one or the other

[prime rampart]

bro ty

[frozen shoal]

don't support an OS if you're too lazy to fix the bugs that causes the game to crash every 30minutes or so every time there is a shader update needed

[feral geyser]

point of clarity: you will need 3 refineries clocked down to 83.333% (500/6) for the residual fuel

you could leave them at 100% but then they will idle periodically

[prime rampart]

its fine if they idle no?

[frozen shoal]

what refinaries are you havihng to underclock?

[feral geyser]

yeah, if you want a wiggly power grid 🤷‍♂️

[prime rampart]

ive lived with wiggly power grid bro

[feral geyser]

residual fuel for a first time setup

[frozen shoal]

I've never had to unclock a single refinary for anything

[feral geyser]

read above

i don't feel the need to retype

[frozen shoal]

I don't feel like scrolling up to cypher through.

[prime rampart]

bro if i forgot what u said im coming nback

[feral geyser]

then deal with not knowing 🤷‍♂️

[prime rampart]

anyways i gtg

[frozen shoal]

nothing to not know. I don't have the issue you're having with any first start up. infact im able to overblock all mine.

[feral geyser]

oh, also, this will require you to overclock the extractor to produce 300/min total

[feral geyser]

cool story, bro

[frozen shoal]

this should be done as a rule of thumb. EVERY extractor should be overclocked,

[feral geyser]

are you trying to tell me how to refinery?

[frozen shoal]

nope. im not trying to tell anyone anything. Just the knowledge of actually have worked in the field of laying pipes, power lines, etc etc. in fact my family built the entire San Jose, CA power grid.

[feral geyser]

ugh i literally dont care

i really don;t

[frozen shoal]

you do or you wouldn't be so mr. know it all and up tight when someone disagrees

but you keep doing you and looking for approval online. im going back ot real life.

enjoy.

[feral geyser]

you're not even disagreeing with me

i'm just trying to teach the new guy

[frozen shoal]

actually I am. I disagreed with your entire underclock statement. NOTHING in this game has to EVER be underclocked.

[feral geyser]

cool, bro

no one cares

[frozen shoal]

no one cares what you have to say

[feral geyser]

except the guy i just helped

🤡

[frozen shoal]

see I can play that game too dude. LOL your kind is so comedy af. try growing up a little bit and realize the internet isn't real life.

fucking clown using emotes to communicate.

[feral geyser]

👍

[atomic crest]

How are you supposed to fill the nuclear reactors with enough water, i have 9 extractros for 4 plants and they barely run

[feral geyser]

bro came to complain then started mansplaining refineries and clock speed to me lol

[feral geyser]

each one has its own pipe?

[atomic crest]

I merge the pipes

[feral geyser]

remember pipes can only carry 600/min max

[atomic crest]

5 extractors to one pipe, 4 to the other

[feral geyser]

that's only enough for 2.5 reactors

[feral geyser]

yeah, that won't work

[atomic crest]

They need 240 each so 2 extractors per reactor?

[feral geyser]

each reactor takes 240/min, which means only 2.5 reactors per pipe (600/min lim on Mk2)

[atomic crest]

Yeah thats what ive done

I have 2 pipes that split each into 2 reactors

And the pipes are full of water

[cunning glade]

Okay so I've figured out the where the spots are for ore now where too build

[feral geyser]

hmmm, i'd have to see how the pipes are setup to tell more

[atomic crest]

Fluids in this game just suck

[feral geyser]

yes

[cunning glade]

I think there okay

I don't really have issues with them

[feral geyser]

but mostly, you can work with them okay if you follow a few basic rules

[cunning glade]

Mk1 suck

Anywhere that isn't flat add a pump simple

I've had a few issues but mostly fine

[atomic crest]

I have constant issues with them

[cunning glade]

Skill issue maybe🤷

[versed mesa]

Hi good morning all

[cunning glade]

I'm able too achieve constant 600 flow pretty easily

Could prolly use 1 or 2 less pumps in some places

But it works so why mess with it

[versed mesa]

Exactly i think the same lol

[atomic crest]

They just blatenly dont work sometimes

[cunning glade]

I think that comes down too user error 🤷

[feral geyser]

pipes coming up through floor holes into machines cause problems

vertical junctions can cause problems

[cunning glade]

Just make it glitch thru it and have a pump before is what I do if I wanna do this

[atomic crest]

I have a fully pumped pipe that runs to my base coming from a max oc pure oil node

Which would produce 600 oil per minute

Yet a collection of machines that use 600 oil per minute often have machines empty even after letting the maniufolds fill up first

[cunning glade]

I have a rubber factory that takes 3 600 pipes into rubber works just fine

[cunning glade]

Look at the extractor and how efficient it is

[feral geyser]

i have a factory in Blue Crater that handles all 4* of the pure veins there, no issues

[cunning glade]

Then follow the pipe till it drops below 600 flow rate

Once u see where it drops place a pump power it keep going

[feral geyser]

generally, you should elevate fluids above the level of the machines using them, then let them flow down into the machine

[atomic crest]

It is fully headlifted the whole way to my base

[versed mesa]

Is this the ocean area ?

[cunning glade]

Then ur machines would be working

So it's either u did pipes wrong or ur math may be off

[feral geyser]

no, southeast corner, big lake with a geyser in the middle

[atomic crest]

Nope

[cunning glade]

Is the extractor running at 100%

[atomic crest]

The last fuel refinery doesnt work at 100%

[cunning glade]

Then maybe u have 1 too many or it needs too me underclocked

Without any info I can't really help

[versed mesa]

Yes thats the one i had found i placed geo down but not done anything there but maybe I can at some point

[feral geyser]

it's technically 3 pures, 2 normals, and an impure, but 2 normals = 1 pure, and i just left the impure one alone

[versed mesa]

Ok far

[feral geyser]

the math was easier not dealing with an extra 150 lol

[cunning glade]

Speaking of fluids do I need too worry about throughput with trains and fluids

Cuz I think I'll need oil for aluminum

[versed mesa]

@feral geyser but if I am correct they are some distance away from that one in the big lake correct?

[cunning glade]

And the oil would be below but I have a train station above it

[feral geyser]

trains can carry more if you package fluids first

[cunning glade]

That's a lot of work tho

[feral geyser]

but naw, use a buffer to help it offload and you should be good

[cunning glade]

I think I'll just pipe it up

[feral geyser]

they are on the eastern shore of the lake (2 of them are in a cave just up the beach)

[atomic crest]

The whole setup uses 595.5

[cunning glade]

It's only going 600 meters

[versed mesa]

Hmm I see wonder if it is the same location

[atomic crest]

The pipe at the base says 600/m

[cunning glade]

Should be fine tbh train is gonna be slower

[limpid cairn]

-# plumber manual 🤔

[atomic crest]

Ive read it

[cunning glade]

Now I need too decide what recipe for aluminum

[atomic crest]

Its an unfixable issue

[cunning glade]

I don't think it is

[feral geyser]

It's literally not

[cunning glade]

Math is never unfixable

[feral geyser]

Others do it all the time

[cunning glade]

Math always has an answer

If u have the right numbers I should say

[feral geyser]

Uhhhh

[cunning glade]

Sush

Ik

[feral geyser]

😶

[cunning glade]

In this game and for this purpose of math

[feral geyser]

Okay

That I'll agree to

[cunning glade]

🤣

[atomic crest]

It is

[feral geyser]

I'll say it again

If you share your pipework with us, we might be able to help more

[cunning glade]

#screenshots

Okay foundries and smelters the only thing that makes aluminum ingots?

[versed mesa]

@feral geyser its never realised it was sent in screenshots I had type a response as well and sent lol

[feral geyser]

Or idk, wallow on your misery, I guess

[atomic crest]

The extractor is 47% efficent

[versed mesa]

@feral geyser its ain't typing its again lol

@feral geyser nah basically I think its the same one i went to with Geyser in middle of lake

[feral geyser]

Yeah, it definitely is. There's a ton of sulfur higher up on the west coast too.

[cunning glade]

Okay aluminum is confusing shouldn't have just smoked

[versed mesa]

Right

[feral geyser]

What recipes do you have available for bauxite?

[cunning glade]

All of them

[feral geyser]

Instant Scrap then

Way less water hungry, even considering the sulfuric cost

Uses slightly more coal, but way better conversion than the others

[cunning glade]

I'm right next too a giant lake water isn't my concern

Uhh maybe I don't have that one I think I grabbed a diff one besides that cuz I thought bad

One sec I have more drives

[feral geyser]

Either way, if you dont use that one, do the Sloppy Alumina and Electrode Scrap recipes

[limpid cairn]

i recommend sloppy alumina and electrode alumina

[feral geyser]

Jinx

[limpid cairn]

What a timing

[cunning glade]

So silca sulfur water and aluminum

Coal too hmm

What's the ratio for it

Okay I have 2400 coal so that should be an issue

[limpid cairn]

!wikisearch alumina

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=alumina

[cunning glade]

I'll have some long belts but it'll be fine

[limpid cairn]

1:2

[cunning glade]

What's the best planner for alt recipes

Or that uses them

[limpid cairn]

Satisfactory tools

[feral geyser]

Pencil and paper

[shy mulch]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[limpid cairn]

I deadass used that before I discovered satisfactory tools

[grave bay]

mornin

or afternoon

[cunning glade]

Okay so 2400 bauxite would mean 1200 coal and silica

Actually I can do 2940

That actually works quite

[feral geyser]

I'm off to bed, I'm pretty tired

[cunning glade]

Well there's 2 pure coal and quartz nodes

[feral geyser]

Good luck with it, buddy

[cunning glade]

Ty I'm prolly gonna deadlock then bed soon as I work in 5 hours

[feral geyser]

Good night to all the clowns in here.

[cunning glade]

But I'm getting it planned

Oh

I don't think it used alts

Damm

[limpid cairn]

Disable the normal recipes if you’re on sftools

[prime rampart]

WAITTTTTTTT

how do i use this smart splitter bro

[limpid cairn]

You press e on it

[feral geyser]

If you want mats to go through, set it to Any (or the material type)
Set one output to Overflow

[prime rampart]

ok ok ty ty

[feral geyser]

Then put it before the storage container. Once the container fills, overflow goes out the side to a sink

[prime rampart]

do i get coupouns or no

[feral geyser]

You will

[cunning glade]

Ugh it wants me too use electrode

[prime rampart]

or is it just a waste disposal

[feral geyser]

A bit of both

[prime rampart]

yea cause i hjave 1 coupoun and im this far in the game

[feral geyser]

Go hunting once you get rubber and the rifle

[prime rampart]

idk if im far or no but ykyk

[feral geyser]

(Sulfur chain in the MAM)

[prime rampart]

hunting for what

[feral geyser]

Aliens 👽

The critters all around the map

[prime rampart]

ALIENS?

[feral geyser]

You got this

I'm off to bed

[prime rampart]

i thought this game didnt even have rifles bro

[limpid cairn]

Wait till you research the better explosive powder

Theres a Funny recipe

Spoiler : ||nukes ||

[cunning glade]

What other alt recipes do I want besides instant scrap

[limpid cairn]

Depends if you want to cut silica out of the line use pure aluminium ingots

[cunning glade]

Cuz if I do this one I get 2800 ingots from only 2100 bauxite

That does make it easier yes

But I then use 700 more ore

[limpid cairn]

Or you life with less ingots

[cunning glade]

Wait limestone

[cunning glade]

I didn't realize I need 3500 silica

[limpid cairn]

Do you have nitric acid unlocked ?

Theres an alt recipe to convert nitric acid and quartz crystals into dissolved silica which you can turn into a lot of silica

[cunning glade]

Oh wait

[limpid cairn]

Iirc I’m using like 225 nitric acid for 3k silica atm

[cunning glade]

Gas no I'm thinking sulfuric sorry

Yeah I see the recipe fuck that

Pure may be the way

[shy mulch]

🤣

Need a break from my megabuild. Started a new save last night, gonna try complete space elevator using only biomass power

[cunning glade]

Well 2100 quartz is a little much for where I'm building

[limpid cairn]

[shy mulch]

Bring it in from somewhere else

[cunning glade]

More work

I have extra bauxite

Alot less buildings too

Smelters need too be on top tho

Or should be and blenders. At the bottom

I think this is where it starts as a tomorrow project and I go commit crime against people in game

[shy mulch]

I'm eating breakfast

[cunning glade]

Food is good

My body likes too think I don't need it

[limpid cairn]

What are you eating ?🤔

[cunning glade]

In fact I ate like twice yesterday

I don't often have breakfast tbh

[shy mulch]

Went to local farmhouse restaurant, they do breakfast buffet for 9.99
Fried everything, great for my arteries

[limpid cairn]

💀

[boreal musk]

#screenshots message
@prime rampart wrong hole

[prime rampart]

which channel

[boreal musk]

no i mean you connected the pipe to the wrong hole

its the other way around

[shy mulch]

You're sending output of one machine to the output of another machine

They need to go output to input

[prime rampart]

OHHHH

How didnt i see that

[versed mesa]

I made a huge mistake i drived the tracker over a cliff by accident and the icon is still showing for it lol

And i can't delete it

[shy mulch]

Is it just me or is LBF only a tiny bit more efficient than SBF? Just doing the calculations and it seems like a very small advantage, was hoping it would be a bit more of a jump

If you're burning 90/min SBF in biomass burners you'll be making 675MW
If you spend 50MW extracting water and refining it into LBF and send into fuel gens, you'll make 750MW, a net gain of 25MW
Barely seems worth the bother

You could save a bit by underclocking refinery and water extractor, but still..

[limpid cairn]

@shy mulch will you make fisconium on the bio gens only save?

(Just hook up the nuclear power plants to an empty power pole if you don’t want the energy)

[shy mulch]

I can't think of any reason to make ficsonium?

It's not needed for space elevator, unless I've forgotten something

[normal aurora]

trigons for the mk6 belts for example?

[shy mulch]

I'd be using as low tiered belts as possible, mk1 if I can get away with it

trigons don't use ficsonium though, they are used in it

[normal aurora]

oh is ficsonium not same as ficsonium ingot

[shy mulch]

you're thinking of ficsite ingot

[normal aurora]

ah

is that different

[shy mulch]

ficsonium is only used for power generation

[boreal musk]

different

[normal aurora]

ah okay

my bad sorry, I got less than 200 hrs

[boreal musk]

ficsit ingot used to make ficsit trigon
ficsonium is used to make ficsonium rod

[shy mulch]

never any need to apologise 🙂

we're all here to learn and chat and help each other

[limpid cairn]

No but it’s a fun challenge to produce it with only bio gens only

[limpid cairn]

Isn’t it called ficsite ingot ?

[normal aurora]

maybe

[versed mesa]

Hiw long can Drones run for ive just unlocked them not sure when ill start to build them yet

[limpid cairn]

Depends on what fuel you use

[versed mesa]

So i guess it will take turbo fuel

[shy mulch]

The amount of fuel they use is pretty low, best bet is just to get a constant supply feeding into them and let it back up

[versed mesa]

Sounds like turbo is going tobe the best since its the newest one to produce

[versed mesa]

Ok

[grand lagoon]

I'm uhhhh 400ish hours in the game (because I take a lot of time making things pretty, don't judge) and I've just finished a supercomputer factory, makes 12,5 per minute. From anyone who has finished the game... is that overkill? Cause it completely consumes my 50/min computer production and I need those for other stuff. Help?

[hollow matrix]

Satisfactory is cool

[sudden valley]

So i just found out that if you go far enough out after dying not even keep inventory will help

[unkempt blade]

You'll need some for building phase 4/5 structures but mostly it's just a question of how quickly you want to finish elevator parts for phase 5

[grand lagoon]

I'm 400 hours in, it's no big deal, but now that I'm realizing how MUCH plastic it takes to advance in the late stages and how long I take to build stuff, I'm dreading the idea of building a whole new chem refinery sistem for plastic JUST to make another computer factory for Project Assembly parts...

[unkempt blade]

if you're not already slooping stuff and you have extra power you could sloop either the supercomputer step (and remove a little bit of to save computers) or the computer step to get some extra

[boreal musk]

id recommend to use hor+diluted fuel with recycled plastic/rubber alt recipes, especially if you want to produce hella ton of them

[grand lagoon]

All my sloops are currently going full on to 5 different alien power augmenty thingy and they're pretty much giving me 30% of my entire power production. Maybe I should finally build that darn Nuclear Power plant and use the sloops as you said

[unkempt blade]

or you can let supercomputers fill up your depot and then have any that don't get used for spaceship parts just sit there and cause the factory to pause so your computers refill

[grand lagoon]

That's what I transformed the western shores into, produces 4k plastic and 3k rubber with the extra resyn input from my Turbo Fuel plant in the Coral beaches on the north

[boreal musk]

the west coast is a powerful area indeed, 2700 oil > 8100 plubber

[grand lagoon]

I'm moving "Higher tier" resources through drones only, so Heavy Frames, Super Computers, Batteries etc...

[grand lagoon]

Yaaaa

I only artificially handicap myself by only using full MK2 pipes (The 600 ones) and ignoring all math for whatever smaller or non-full pipes there are

Like, from pressurized wells, if the output is, let's say 1500, I just think of it at 1200 and ignore the rest (IK it's dumb, I just don't wanna do extra math lol)

[prime rampart]

guys #screenshots

[shy mulch]

good is subjective
if...
1 - it works
2 - you like it
then it's good

[pseudo perch]

how broken is the water/fluids in game

gonna be reworking my coal power plant soon, i forgot how wack the water might be

[prime rampart]

nah bro lok at it again

i couldnt reach the floor

so i went with NOODLE

[unkempt blade]

does it make you happy though?

[fluid gust]

Is 100h phase 4 good?

[vestal hill]

right

i've been trying to find these quartz veins for about 40 minutes now

I'm in the rocky desert, it's two pure nodes at around -1643 -1496, anyone know of any cave entrances around there? that's the only reason i can think of that I can't find them

[cunning siren]

There are 3 entrances East North and West

One requires explosives

[vestal hill]

do you know the rough whereabouts?

[cunning siren]

Yes, it is a long big cave

[vestal hill]

spodies?

[cunning siren]

Explosives

[prime rampart]

yes

[vestal hill]

oh fair, I see hwat could be an entrance to the west. is that the one that needs spodies?

welp time to go back to base and grab some then

[boreal musk]

the famous entrance is on the east that has 4 normal nodes of coal around it

[vestal hill]

yeah I have a coal area marked, thats the one I was thinking of

is that the one thjat requires explosives though?

[boreal musk]

the west entrance is blocked by boulders, east is free

[vestal hill]

oh okay

[boreal musk]

altho its the farthest one

[cunning siren]

North is free too

[vestal hill]

east is closest to wherre I am

[honest ridge]

my friend is saying my save is too laggy for him to play when it was fine a couple days ago is there anything that will help

i havnt even built some massive factory thats lagging out the world

[vestal hill]

found it!

oh there's bouldders here

[cunning siren]

Find out where the "lag"... "is"

[cunning glade]

Anyone have aluminum setups and how they did it like photos

[honest ridge]

yeah so how?

[cunning siren]

Do they have a beefy computer?

[honest ridge]

sort of, better than mine

[cunning siren]

Ok, so it's probably not a percieved FPS issue on their end

[boreal musk]

thats the west entrance like i said, you can go to the east

[vestal hill]

the map always faces north right?

so, top is north

[boreal musk]

yes

[vestal hill]

yeah I was at the east entrancfe, by the coast. lots of tracks, a few coal nodes

[cunning siren]

Get ready to build some watch towers to climb once you enter the caves 😆

[vestal hill]

good to know

oh wait I can't access the east entrance whatsoever

it's impossible for me to get nobelisks

[cunning siren]

Muchos gatos

[vestal hill]

oh well, I'lldo it later

[shy mulch]

Strange choice, could have easily done that with some mergers and a lift, but if you're happy with the solution then go for it

[cunning glade]

Too piggy back on that for instant scrap what's a good layout in terms of buildings cuz both blenders and refineries need fluids

Cuz refineries are tall too so hate putting them on low floors

But fluids

[cunning siren]

I try to avoid pumps and sometimes its hard to do so

[shy mulch]

Not impossible, you just haven't done it yet. Nobelisks can be got from the very start if you know how

[vestal hill]

I have no steel production yet

[cunning siren]

Why building on flat water "fixes everything" as far as liquids

[shy mulch]

Lizard doggos can give them

[vestal hill]

what about the detonator

[shy mulch]

You can make that from things you get from doggos

[vestal hill]

but I don't have detonators unlocked in the MAM, because I don't have steel production yet

[shy mulch]

You can do everything with enough doggos and enough time, tier/phase doesn't have to be a barrier to anything if you have lots of patience

[vestal hill]

nevermind, I have 117 steel pipes

[cunning glade]

Tbh the sulfur might be coming from a cliff

And water is easy too pipe up at 600

[versed mesa]

Ive unlocked Nuclear power now

[cunning siren]

Sulfur is easy to lift down too 🤷

Maybe not though, not sure what gear you have

[vestal hill]

Is it possible to change the screensaver on the main menu to something else?

[atomic notch]

Im sure its possible but idk if you can reasonably do it

[vestal hill]

Got em!

8 nobelisks and a detonator

[shy mulch]

Woop! It's boom boom time

[vestal hill]

YES

[vestal hill]

I uh forgot which button it is to detonate them

[shy mulch]

Just click. Same button as throwing them

It should tell you on your screen

[vestal hill]

Not working

[shy mulch]

Have you thrown one?

[vestal hill]

Four

[shy mulch]

Do you still have the detonator in your hand?

[vestal hill]

Yes

[shy mulch]

Put a screenshot in #screenshots so we can see if something is wrong. It should work from what you've said, so maybe we spot something else we didn't think of

[blissful atlas]

is there a speedrunning category for least achievements completed to complete the game?

[vestal hill]

Found the issue. I’ve key bound some stuff so it’s a bit different

[shy mulch]

Does it not show you the keybinds when you have the detonator in your hand?

[vestal hill]

Nope

I’m in though, thanks for the help!

[shy mulch]

I feel the need to jump into the game to check that. I'm sure it dig, maybe I was imagining it

[cunning siren]

I've heard of folk speedrunning this, mostly glitch runs though 🤷

[nova cedar]

Is there an unreal engine issue at the moment causing players on epic multiplayer to crash? Seems to be unreal engine that comes up with the crash report.

Happens at least once every 10 minutes sometimes varies

[leaden turret]

Reminder in some dialects that means 💩

[shy mulch]

Really? 🤣🤭

[leaden turret]

Yup

[vestal hill]

What does

[cunning siren]

Petting doggos furiously! Trying to get some computers for phase 1 personal upload depot 😆

[leaden turret]

Boom boom

[vestal hill]

You learn something new every day

[shy mulch]

If we are being mindful of all languages and dialects, there are words in my dialect that I use every day that are seen positively here, but are banned on all social media which feels unfair. Impossible to account for everything

[atomic notch]

Which ones

[shy mulch]

Obviously can't say it

[atomic notch]

How about this. Next time someone says it lmk

Im super curious

[vestal hill]

Should I grab cast screws quickly?

I’ve got it in the MAM

[cunning glade]

Get all of the alts

[leaden turret]

grab it slowly, don't want to scare it off

[vestal hill]

Ik

[cunning glade]

U don't have enough alts until u do

[vestal hill]

Is it possible for an alt to be rolled in the MAM if you already have it learned?

[cunning glade]

No

Once u unlock or have it in the mam u can't get it again