satisfactory

[honest tinsel]

Is there a way to spawn items in Satisfactory in a creative world?

[slate lava]

ok and now i just have to connect all the electricity for my brute force atempt

surelly nothing will go wrong

[shrewd palm]

honestly as long as the track isnt extremely busy and you keep like 15+ foundations between intersection signals and the signals on the track you should be fine

[hard ivy]

it entirely depends on the exact train setup

[old widget]

This guy on reddit said at 120kmph it’s exactly 25 blocks so this answers my question

I’ll have to test if ramps work that will help a lot

[glad drum]

I wouldn't - Grok 3 doesn't even know that Steel Pipes have alternate recipes. It thinks the standard one is the only one.

[untold moat]

the system was originally designed for a facility I called a ReTMINWaFN Plant or Remotely Throttleable Modular Input No Waste Full Nuclear Plant. it allowed me to basically throttle how much power was being made.

[vestal hill]

Oh that’s cool

With satisfactory systems is it possible to have it auto throttle?

[untold moat]

this was back before the nuclear recipes were changed and 252 was the max uranium plants you could have with full waste disposal. now its more complicated with the recipes as well as FFRs.

[vestal hill]

Oh ok

Thanks for explaining!

[feral geyser]

Maybe like this?
#satisfactory message

[stone owl]

This game is so good at putting into perspective the fact that I just don't have an engineer's brain lol

[glad drum]

Nah, this game made me realize that engineers are lazy and that I should totally have a slip road go up and over several other roads that takes people to Costco so they don't clog up the main roads.

I can do it with CONVEYORS why can't you do it in real life with roads duh

[vestal hill]

Yes I know about that but from the way it was explained that’s manual, I eas wondering if there was a way to make it auto throttle based on power usage or something with those priority switches

[pearl summit]

Quick question guys, what kind of fuel is the best to use on the Jetpack? I hear rocket and bio are top contenders?

[lament niche]

thoughts? #screenshots message

[feral geyser]

I agree, LBF is awesome mid game, ionized is premium late game

Especially since you can make ionized out of DMCs with the alt, which are basically waste product at some point.

[feral geyser]

Lovely, you sticking with orange, or are you gonna make a custom color scheme?

[cunning siren]

Strange thing is tools says the shard recipe is more efficient? Wuuut?

[slate lava]

is there by any chance a calculator for best production going of off resources aviable?

only planners for end outcome

[shrewd palm]

satisfactory tools

[cunning siren]

Satisfactory tools uses "resource available" as "the entire maps resources" though so... may not be what you mean

[shrewd palm]

although you can change the amount of resources available to be whatever you want

[slate lava]

the items, inpout window?

[cunning siren]

OH yea, good call

[limpid cairn]

is any1 using drones a lot?

[slate lava]

once i unlock them yes

[frail sleet]

Yes, but you can't change the weight of each resource so it's not very effective for this job. You still have to manually compare each recipe for each item/step.

[shrewd palm]

if you want something where you can choose what recipes are being used, how much resources you want to use, how much of something you want to make then use tools

if you want to do all that but plan the production line and compare recipes and stuff use modeler

[stone owl]

I'm so happy I don't play this game with people because this monstrosity I have created is more embarrassing than like a dirty room or something

[glad drum]

Please I want to see it - I need to see it

[shrewd palm]

although for modeler you have to tweak the settings a little bit or else it can freak out with loops

[slate lava]

honsetly i just wanted to skip on the planning of a base comps plant

[lament niche]

sir, this is U3

[frail sleet]

copper is a lategame bottleneck, iron isn't, so basically all such projects will use iron for rotors. It's just a consequence of inaccurate weighting which you can't modify

[lament niche]

copper... lategame... bottleneck?

explain that one, chief

[shrewd palm]

nuclear pasta my beloved

[glad drum]

less copper = less bottle for neck

to fit your neck through the bottle, make it out of iron because more iron = wider bottle

[shrewd palm]

any large amount of nuclear pasta will drain the world's copper VERY quickly

[vestal hill]

!!!! Life changing advice

[lament niche]

am I the only one who doesn't have problems with nuclear pasta?

[frail sleet]

Tools will use the iron recipe, but it will spend every single unit of copper on the map first, and leave you with 0 copper left and 30,000 iron left - so you have to pre-plan everything that you're going to build in the world before placing a single building, within a single Tools tab, for it to use the "correct" recipe in that case. Otherwise you'll find yourself tearing up copper rotors to build iron ones when you need another 200 copper.

If we could change the weighting for iron and copper it would be easy fix

[glad drum]

I don't. I make 1/min and AFK

[feral geyser]

It is

[stone owl]

Absolutely not ❌

[glad drum]

You're such a tease!

[shrewd palm]

if theres one person you can share spaghetti with it is duhjuhbuh

[stone owl]

okay i'll post a little

uh where do i put it

[feral geyser]

#screenshots

[glad drum]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057

[feral geyser]

Jinx

I'll take a Dr Pepper

[glad drum]

I owe you a Ficsit brand carbonated beverage!

[glad drum]

Fantastic choice

Top 5 sodies ez

[stone owl]

oops there's 1 min cooldown

[slate lava]

ye splitters all over the palce

[glad drum]

#screenshots message

THIS IS SO COMPACT AND NEAT - WHERE IS MY SPAGHETTI I AM HUNGRY

[feral geyser]

Dr Pepper
Coca Cola
Canada Dry Ginger Ale
Barq's Root Beer
Sprite

[stone owl]

I don't have like conveyor spaghetti 😭 I have machine tumors

[feral geyser]

I love it, it looks tidy to me

[slate lava]

wanted to send mine but it looks somehow tidy ish from above lol

[glad drum]

I only drink zero sugar drinks so my list will vary quite a bit. - nvm it doesnt vary quite a bit

(All Zero Sugar)
Dr Pepper
A&W Root Beer
Canada Dry Blackberry or Lemonade
Fresca (so refreshing)
uhhh I haven't had much in a while so I'll stop there

[limpid cairn]

guys im such a genius, i slooped my blenders creating rocketfuel for double the output

[stone owl]

I was going to put the nail constructors on a third floor but I couldn't figure out how to separate the plates & rods going up unless I do two separate conveyor lines

[slate lava]

let me introduce you to bubbly mineralwater

[feral geyser]

Shiiiiii, I forgot about Fresca

[unkempt blade]

truly one of the greatest minds of our rocket fuel generation

[glad drum]

Eh.

What like Bubly?

[feral geyser]

UNLIMITED POWER

[versed mesa]

So ive installed curve build mod and it dont seam to make any difference i can't make cure build for some random reason

[feral geyser]

You need to switch to curve mode. It can be a bit funny, but there are several modes for it.

[versed mesa]

So sad because I started to get an idea for build slightly so just wanted to try it

[slate lava]

eh carbonated, forgot the word

[versed mesa]

Where is. Curve mode ?

[feral geyser]

Switch building modes (R, i think?) Default, zoop, vertical, curve

[glad drum]

PRESS R WHEN PLACING A CONVEYOR (or hold R to get a wheel of all build modes)

Damn you're so fast

[feral geyser]

No, E quick-switches marks/types

[glad drum]

No, thinking of like you're a pirate switching from his hook-hand to his keyboard-hand and you switch with ARRRGGHH (R)

[versed mesa]

@feral geyser @glad drum well for what I think it is on controller it dont work but will look now to make sure

[glad drum]

It's probably something silly like the black-button on an original xbox controller or something

[feral geyser]

🤢 controller

[versed mesa]

None of my buttons are black ive got Thunderobot controller recently bought its is Xbox one for windows

[glad drum]

GUYS don't worry I updated Grok on Satisfactory 1.1 so we can use AI to plan our factories now

[versed mesa]

Really

[feral geyser]

Check keybinds, I'm honestly not sure

No, don't use AI for factory planning

Don't even use tools or modelers

[versed mesa]

Ok mate I dont want yous to think am wasting your guys time am trying my best

[feral geyser]

Pencil and paper and brains and grit

[glad drum]

Idk if the AI prompts actually save to an overall database or just within the specific chat it's having so I wouldn't still trust it

[versed mesa]

Lmfao

[feral geyser]

You're not, I just genuinely don't know, I don't play with gamepad.

[glad drum]

Satisfactory Modeler is a good tool on Steam and it's FREE!

[slate lava]

ye lol bruteforce it

[feral geyser]

Oh no, you still do the math

[glad drum]

Never do math - just always underclock everything so that it's always a 1:1

[feral geyser]

This is hate speech

[slate lava]

i just build a computer factory

and instead of calculating it just every thing /3

and it works lol

[limpid cairn]

guys every uranium node fully overclocked with t3 miners gives 2400 uranium o/m right?

[glad drum]

"in less than 100 words, tell me the best way to make a factory that outputs at least 500 steel pipes/min"

"Use the Iron Pipe alternate recipe (100 Iron Ingots/min → 25 Steel Pipes/min). Build 20 Constructors to produce 500 Steel Pipes/min, fed by 2,000 Iron Ingots/min from 67 Smelters (2,010 Iron Ore/min from ~17 Pure nodes with Mk.1 Miners). Use Mk.5 belts for main lines, Mk.4 for splits. Power needs: ~348 MW. Manifold Iron Ingots to Constructors; buffer with Industrial Storage. Unlock Iron Pipe via MAM (Tier 3). Ensure 3-5 Iron nodes and Coal/Fuel Generators for power."

That's the prompt and response from Grok3 -- it's not really a great way to visualize or even plan your factory because it doesn't tell you about under/overclocking

also LOL @ ~17 Pure Nodes

[versed mesa]

Damn ive figure out build mode its down on D pad lol

It opens up the wheel with several options

[feral geyser]

There ya go

And if you tap it, it should just switch modes instead of opening the wheel

Never

So pricey

[slate lava]

#screenshots anyone wanna rebuild my starting factory? iam lazy 🥲

[versed mesa]

Let me try ive already started to build something else because I really needed to start mining Bauxite

[feral geyser]

I got whiplash from that just now

[versed mesa]

Or and also what I needed to produce for a task and thats why I was wanting Bauxite it seam I got some from crash sites so ive completed the task

[feral geyser]

Steel is so easy late game, though, because you don't need as much coal for power

[versed mesa]

Thanks for helping me guys I appreciate it

[glad drum]

DIAMONDS

[feral geyser]

Okay, fair

[glad drum]

I'm so excited for that part, I'm gonna make so many diamonds

[feral geyser]

I do pink diamonds, cuz i have tons of crystals free from my distillation factory

[versed mesa]

Where am building had bits of uranium and its giving off radiation i went to start mining it and it instantly killed me

Witch sucks

[feral geyser]

Get them filters

[versed mesa]

Or actually i think I must of ran out no wonder

[slate lava]

are the sink coupons gloabl or local to the sink?

[versed mesa]

You can only get from the sink

[glad drum]

Gloobal

[feral geyser]

They are global

[slate lava]

no like if i have say multiple sinks, do i have to visit each or i get all of them from 1

[green fiber]

you can get all coupons from any sink

[slate lava]

makes alot of sense

[feral geyser]

All sinks share the same coupon count

[versed mesa]

That coll

[real shale]

Just got my FICSIT mug delivered today, oh my the overclocked one is huge

[broken valve]

where im i supposed to place 88 fuel generators

on top of my head ?

[real shale]

Make an oil rig in the middle of the ocean

[broken valve]

theses things are M.A.S.S.I.V.E

im putting them inside a lake but i think it wont be enough

[versed mesa]

Share picture please

[real shale]

Which reminds me I need resource well extractors to double or even triple my power output to 60,000 MW on my oil rig

[real shale]

Not sure which channel is good

[versed mesa]

Screenshots

[broken valve]

😱

[stone owl]

I don't suppose there's a website that can help with the maths of constructors vs refiners etc? I'm very bad with math 😵‍💫

[dim remnant]

is there someone that knows where the entrance to the rocky dessert quartz nodes ? ive been trying for hours

[unkempt blade]

practice is how you get good at it though 😄

[real shale]

There

[slate lava]

top left?

[versed mesa]

I am not using maths am just going with it lol

[dim remnant]

top left

[slate lava]

#screenshots

the cave icons

the one to the very left needs booms tho

[dim remnant]

it just keeps sending me to random screenshots

[versed mesa]

@real shale or the mug in real life very cool i have seen the ingame one

[shrewd palm]

theres a really big entrance in the very top left corner facing west, another on the east side of the desert near the little bit of water, and another somewhere along the northern right side of the biome but i dont know exactly where

[real shale]

I want all the FICSIT merch

[slate lava]

look for a mention

[dim remnant]

near the geyser ?

[slate lava]

should be the most current one

[stone owl]

I nearly failed in school 😭

[shrewd palm]

#screenshots message the circled ones should be all the entrances

[cunning glade]

But math is the fun part

[slate lava]

if thats my screenshot all the cave icons are entrances

[shrewd palm]

it is

[cunning glade]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

That may have current builds in them u can ignore them

But that's a solid site from my understanding

[shrewd palm]

modeler is a little better imo, although tools is pretty good

[old widget]

1.0? 🤡

[cunning glade]

Huh?

[cunning glade]

Idk imo

[shrewd palm]

nothing really changed in 1.1

[cunning glade]

I used it but it seems more work I'll look into it more

[elder apex]

just an fyi, there is one more entrance to that cave on the north side west of the one you have circled that leads directly to the sam/quartz area

[shrewd palm]

related to production anyways

[old widget]

Oh I didn’t know I am just starting a new save on 1.1

[cunning glade]

I used it when I didn't have any planned factories so idk

[old widget]

Just got back after a LONG break

[cunning glade]

Messed around with it ig

[white dawn]

Yeah, sftools' solver is still 100% applicable to 1.1

[shrewd palm]

tools just farts out a factory, modeler can let you plan out entire save files

[cunning glade]

Then maybe don't 🤡 if u don't know?

[shrewd palm]

its more work but a lot more useful

[cunning glade]

I see

I will look into it

[old widget]

There was a question mark in there, don’t have to get Karen about it

[cunning glade]

Idk my next factory that I would need too make

My next factory will make 5 modular engines a min and then 1 of the other things

[white dawn]

sftools and Modeller are very different apps with different usecases.

sftools is a solver/calculator. Plug in what you want to produce (plus recipes+inputs you want to use) and it'll optimize for resource uses. Doesn't intend to help you plan/model your physical factory, though.
Modeller is a planner/modeller. Can use it to plan out your factory/factories in detail, if you want, but it's not good at being a quick solver/calculator on its own

[cunning glade]

But I only need 5 circuit boards for it and 10 motors a min iirc

I see

I mostly just need the calculator

When trying too use it for modeling idk didn't try it enough

[white dawn]

(Personally, IMO the best planner/modeller is just the game itself)

[cunning glade]

I'll attempt it with this next one

I was just gonna say

But anything u plan or think in ur head never fully translates in game

[white dawn]

Modeller's definitely got plenty of fans, though. I'm glad it exists for folks who want it. :)

[old widget]

Do you guys have a recommendation for like a site or tool with a to do list instead? Like recommended items per min while unlocking tiers?

I’m struggling with early game laziness more than previous plays

[shrewd palm]

the recommended amount is just how long you want to wait

[slate lava]

i was wondering why my factory anint running

i forgot to overclock my coppepr node

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

also why are gifs disabeled

[hard ivy]

cause people would spam them otherwise

[slate lava]

(°_ °) (._ .) ( °°) ( ..) now who would do that

[shrewd palm]

people that think they're funny

[slate lava]

that formatting tho

[old widget]

Also I’m curious how people are able to make super large blueprints on blueprint sites yet you can’t ig

[slate lava]

save editor

[old widget]

It would be really nice if they added a larger one in the final tiers

[white dawn]

There are mods which give you bigger blueprinters

[hard ivy]

there is one

[white dawn]

They already did!

[old widget]

How big is the new one

[hard ivy]

6x6x6 foundations

[old widget]

Oh shit ok

That’s cool then

[shrewd palm]

although the mk2 is enough for a lot of stuff

[white dawn]

Yeah, don't sleep on 5x5

[old widget]

You want to know what really sucks

[white dawn]

I'd always been of the opinion that 4x4 was mostly just fine as it was, though I'd always wanted just one more foundation so I could handle stuff like Manufacturer manifolds how I wanted. So the mk2 Blueprinter was A+ for me. :D

[old widget]

When you just enter the addiction stage of a new save in this game yet you’re stuck at work sitting in the discord daydreaming about what you’re going to make

[slate lava]

ok time to rip of the bandaid and redoo my basic parts factory

[old widget]

My biggest complaint about this game is my job, my gf, and my yard/house work

[slate lava]

all of them are solveable

[old widget]

Would be a much better game without all 3

[shrewd palm]

Just turn off notifications and then play satisfactory for like 5 days straight

[stone owl]

Definitely gonna have to learn how to use this properly, seems super powerful but a lil confusing at first

[cunning glade]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/planners/production potentially easier too use but have been told not as good

Idk I like both

[old widget]

What if after 5 days I’m only producing 1 HMF per minute? Do I turn them off for another 5 days?

[cunning glade]

Make 16.85

[old widget]

HMF?

[cunning glade]

Pretty easy tbh

[old widget]

What’s that for

[cunning glade]

Idk but you'll have enough too spare

I believe

[old widget]

And yes I’ve finished this game a few times I’d like to get to the end and continue a mega project though for once

[solar hamlet]

ITs never ending with the coal power... Ive built coal power plant... then automated steel products and its already time to make another coal powerplant 😄

[cunning glade]

I've never finished the game

[outer scarab]

you should do that

[cunning glade]

How u not know what they for then

[cunning glade]

This current playthrough is that since 1.0 is out now

[old widget]

I meant 16.85? Idk what the number accomplishes. Especially after not playing for nearly 2 years

[cunning siren]

If coal plants bore you explore and scan for geysers to plant geothermal on 🤷 lots of options in this game

[cunning glade]

6 manufacturers making frames

[sharp sentinel]

Did they make whaletickspacecow things unkillable? I hit one with a nuke earlier and he walked it off.

[old widget]

I basically went through tier 1 before work

And now I’m chomping at the bit fucking addictive bs

[sharp sentinel]

You're reminding me of my review for the game.

[cunning glade]

I mean idk how many u need per min but that should be enough

[sharp sentinel]

I just finished phase 4 for the first time ever at 200 hours into this save, and 312 hours total.

[old widget]

It happens every time and I love/hate it

[cunning glade]

It's only 115mins for all the hmf u need too beat the game

Supposedly

[cunning siren]

Love hate relationships... yep, this guy knows what addiction is

[cunning glade]

Satisfactory withdrawals are real

[old widget]

This was years ago but I actually got dumped by an ex playing factorio, she obviously wasn’t the one

[glad drum]

Whoever said AI is not a good tool for Satisfactory, you're so right. I just wanted to (continue to) try it out as an experiment but it constantly gets things wrong and has no idea what is good or why you should do one thing over another.

[cunning glade]

She just couldn't handle actual math

[white dawn]

LLMs don't actually know anything and shouldn't be relied on for facts: Film at Eleven

[cunning siren]

I know you may be partly joking there, to be fair many folk use video games to disassociate into a world where they can escape negative thoughts and emotions 🤷 so... kind of a slippery slope

[glad drum]

I thought it could at least read through the wiki and pick up on facts provided about game mechanics to get a basic understanding.

But it told me to build HMFs with a Blender... so..

[cunning glade]

I mean give it the right facts it will work

Don't give it all the info it doesn't work idk seems pretty simple

[old widget]

No that’s actually a real story, Christi if you ever read this yea I picked a game over you 🤷‍♂️

[cunning glade]

Ai can work for games u just need too be specific

[white dawn]

At the risk of derailing into AI/LLM stuff Yet Again in here: no, LLMs never actually know anything. They're just autocomplete, that is all. Even if they're fed nothing but truth they can still hallucinate invalid outputs. LLMs have their uses, but producing facts is not one of them. Every fact they give you must be fact-checked if you want to rely on it, at which point you're better off without the LLM in the first place

[cunning glade]

Very specific

[cunning siren]

Oooof

[old widget]

It’s ok I’m happy with my gf now and am looking at rings, never know idk

One of my chief complaints about this game is it kind of invades my day thinking and dreams

My work is pretty mundane so sitting here just thinking about it is weird

[cunning siren]

It's good that you notice when that happens sometimes

[honest ridge]

i thought something was wrong with dismantle crates cos they never appear but ive just found a single crate with about everything ive ever dismantled in it

[old widget]

Is there a way to disable those

Nothing worse than deleting a massive platform with a full inventory

I hate them

[honest ridge]

if you disable them the items will just be lost?

[slate lava]

can i force apply custimzer stuff without having to copy a already applied one?

[honest ridge]

#screenshots message

[old widget]

Seems like small potatoes to me. Nodes are unlimited so I never worry about it but I guess it matters for stuff like spheres and whatnot

[cunning siren]

I'm not sure there is a way outside of mods to compleatly disable them though there are options to configure how it works

[ashen sable]

Hi there, my steam cloud save overwrote my current game files and replaced them with files with only 4h of playtime... is there a way to still recover the newer game files?

[cunning siren]

Options > Gameplay > Merge Dismantle Crates

[old widget]

That helps

[cunning siren]

There is also an option to pick where you put the crates too called: Dismantle Crate Placment in that same area

[white dawn]

Ouch. Did your autosaves survive?

[ashen sable]

nope everything is overwritten

I sent a save to a friend a few weeks ago but thats still a huge difference to now

[cunning siren]

Windows crashed when I attempted to use my GPU that shares the same heat sink as the CPU 😆. It may have been a driver issue though 🤔

[white dawn]

'fraid I don't personally have any useful advice for the immediate problem, though I will say that you will never regret setting up a data backup system for your home PC. (Just be sure to periodically test restores from it, so you know it still works!)

[true mulch]

check https://store.steampowered.com/account/remotestorage
if it's not there, it's sadly gone

[heavy pine]

All the backups in the world are useless if the restore won't go.

[cunning siren]

There are SaveGames_backup folder on local drive if that is where your OG game save is

[hollow quarry]

im playing the game with a friend, for some reason the mobs arent aggresive for him and they dont even retaliate, while there behavior is normal against me (im the host)

[ashen sable]

checked this but didnt help

[cunning siren]

Maybe the client setting is per user?

[ashen sable]

but I found newer files here so this could work

[hollow quarry]

he says he cant change them

[ashen sable]

omg thank you

its here

[cunning siren]

If you can recall what your saves are namded OR search with *.sav and sort by date modified that will show you all the save files on your search area

[true mulch]

ah, that's good to know for when this happens to someone else

I wonder if Epic cloud conflicts do this too

[ashen sable]

yeah its not the latest point I saved but way better than grinding again for hours

thank you so much

[white dawn]

Now your next task is to get going on setting up that home-data-backup solution. :)

[ashen sable]

fr sounds like a good idea

[true mulch]

probably even just a shell script to copy the files somewhere else on boot would suffice

[cunning siren]

%localappdata%\FactoryGame\Saved\SaveGames <--- WIN + R then type this in, the "newest" files may still be local in that location

I did not have to install any drivers on this recent Win 11 reinstall 🤔 good job Windows folk, this is new for me and this hardware. Hunting down obscure drivers was a chore sometimes

[outer scarab]

i tried to uninstall win10 and it just reinstalled win10

[cunning siren]

I avoided 11 like the plauge for a long time, it's actually not bad at all

[magic thorn]

first hard drive pull of the day, got wet concrete for my aluminum!!!

[cunning siren]

Noice one!

[cunning glade]

What phase? Or tier

If needed I have a few saves I could share if you'd like

Did it for someone else a min ago

[cunning glade]

I see it got solved nvm then

[cunning glade]

Never had any issues with 11 preferred it tbh

[solar hamlet]

Which of the recipe combination is the least pain for first motor factory? 😄

[cunning glade]

Need too figure out the raw resource requirements for 10 motors a min and 5 circuit boards a min I think

[feral geyser]

Honestly, the default

Steel rotors are nice too, same components as stators

And since you'll be doing tons of pipes, Moulded Steel Pipes are nice

Or go Iron Pipes and Iron Wires, eschew steel altogether (you'll just need more iron)

Or, if Crystal Oscillators are available, Rigor Motor is pretty nice too.

But since it's your first one, that won't be the one.

[solar hamlet]

Last time I did rigor motor... but Im not sure I want to handcraft until I get the machine that can make it 😄

fell into that trap last time 😄

[feral geyser]

Well, you can't hand craft alt recipes

[solar hamlet]

meant it more like I made the whole factory and then only noticed it needs machine I dont have... so I had to progress while making motors by hand 😄

[feral geyser]

Ya dun goofed

[feral geyser]

If you don't have the machine, you don't have the recipe 🤔 soo....

[cunning siren]

I do default Motor recipe and Copper Rotors BUT only after I get rid of "screw eaters" with their alts. SO once I get Heavy Encased Frames and Stitched Iron Plates I switch to Copper Rotors cuz it's more efficent AND i've got a bunch of screw production doing absoulty nothing at that point anyway 🤷 😆

[solar hamlet]

Im thinking of maybe trying the electric motor route... just because I never made it before 😄

[feral geyser]

That's a good one, saves you on stators

Just adds an extra assembly step or two

[cunning glade]

Okay Damm motors need a lot

[solar hamlet]

Nvm that one is Tier 8 nuclear power 😄

So base recipe it is 😄

[cunning glade]

Probs smarter too make the motors at the steel factory and then truck or tractor them over too the main factory

Then all of phase 3 will be automated at the starter factory

[solar hamlet]

Currently all of my factories are for my personal use.

So I can actually do stuff.

[cunning glade]

Wym personal use

[solar hamlet]

Building and research, so I can progress. Nothing so far needs em in my production

[hollow quarry]

#screenshots message

me VS my friend when we make a factory

[solar hamlet]

Im in Phase 1 I really dont have anything that needs motors higher up the chain.

[cunning glade]

That makes sense

I was confused I'm phase 3 rn

[cunning glade]

I rec having first factory make up too smart plating get coal power then explore

[solar hamlet]

Its kinda annoying that to make 5 motors I need 277 iron ore... so I would have to tap two nodes and make spaghetti 😄 guess Ill make slightly less so I dont have to bother doing that 😄

[cunning siren]

I usually wait till I "gear up" before I treasure hunt, this time I may use my panic room blueprint and explore early 🤔 😆

[hollow quarry]

aaa what now?

[feral geyser]

If you get rid of the copper rotors part of it, you can probably use a more round number.

[solar hamlet]

without copper its 277 to make 5 motors... but Looking at it I should still plug in two lines anyway because I will need both rotors and stators for other stuff.

[feral geyser]

Primarily rotors, for Assemblers and Foundries.

[solar hamlet]

Stators for space elevator, so need some overflow there as well 😄

[feral geyser]

Oh yeah, for Automated Wiring

But at that rate, build a different factory just for that

That way you can get your motors without overwhelming yourself.

[solar hamlet]

Guess Ill do that, and stick to the one pure node for 4.3 motors a minute. Should be plenty 😄

[feral geyser]

I mean... 5 is a nice number 😭

[solar hamlet]

yes... but it needs 277 ore 😄

and I only have MK3 belts

[feral geyser]

You can find two iron nodes close enough to each other and use levelers/balancers

Besides, you'll upgrade past that soon enough.

Or, if you insist on keeping copper in it, use regular Wire recipe, it's actually more efficient than Iron Wire (5:10 compared to 5:9)

Then you use less iron and make more use of the copper, everybody wins.

[cunning siren]

If you can feed your smelting manifold in the "center" vs "one end or the other" you can double your current belt throughput without having to add additional "separate" belt routing AND if you use lifts for your inputs reconfiguring the input after belt upgrades is MUCH faster and simpler 🤷 Options options, so many options

I ❤️ lifts cuz splitters and mergers autosnap and connect to them like glue vs. belts... belts be like: "OH you want me to reconnect? Nah bruh... that sounds like work" 😆

[feral geyser]

Stacking splitters on lifts is how I get grouped manifolds. Main through line on the top, branches off down the lift to another splitter that feeds 3 machines at once.

[cunning siren]

Screenshots and or video please

[sleek token]

Is there a way in vanilla to somehow maneuver the elevator floor stops to have multiple entrances?

[feral geyser]

Once I load up

[feral geyser]

Sadly no, not that I know of

[sleek token]

is there a mod for it ;)?

[feral geyser]

Not that I know of

There are other elevator mods though

[leaden sphinx]

Am i the only one that spends hours building something just to rebuild and spend even more time because it was too messy and after sleeping you forget how it even works

[cunning siren]

This game... so "QUIRKY!". Example: You CAN use ESC key to back out of every menu in the game EXCEPT the blueprint designer UNLESS you first click THEN using ESC it will work

[feral geyser]

"QUIRKY!" ™

#screenshots message
@honest ridge place the pole first, then the belt

I don't know why it does that, maybe rounding error?

[cunning siren]

Reminds me of abusive relationships where the same behavior will be responded to with different reward schedules 😆 gamba addiction mechanics

[real shale]

Grid snapping

[cunning siren]

I guess I'll make a macro that anytime I hit the ESC key it will also click before to solve this issue 😆

[real shale]

Belts seem to snap to intervals on the world grid it seems, when you deviate from it, it does some wacky things, but it can be fixed by putting splitters on the middle of the belt, deleting the end bit and running it further until you get it where you need it

[cunning siren]

This "slightly bend the belt" seems to only be related to the straight build mode 🤔 I usally end up switching build modes to "fix" the unpleasing effect. Maybe it's just a sign that there is a grid misalignment issue somewhere? 🤔

[vale grotto]

It makes using the blueprint designer itself actual hell
I'd love to see it changed

Does anyone know if it's like super rude to ping a community manager? Because honestly now that it's not just me, the amount of times I've wanted to punch something because pressing the "exit menu" button doesn't exit the menu is really infuriating

[feral geyser]

sent

[cunning siren]

I would like consistency in the interface over all really 🤷 it seems like a simple request? IDK why it's seemingly so complex to make happen

[feral geyser]

Also, never mind the pipes

[cunning siren]

OH man! Are you exploiting the VIP liquid junction thingy with that funky way of connecting the refinerys 🤔

[feral geyser]

No

[cunning siren]

YES

[feral geyser]

They are all horizontally oriented, no VIPs

Well, the junctions are vertically oriented, but the weld lines are all horizontal

[zenith pecan]

Every time I tried a VIP, it malfunctioned and the system stuffed up.

[cunning siren]

Yea if it were feeding in from the bottom that would be the exploit I guess? 🤔

[feral geyser]

With the wavy pipes, it makes sure the bottom one fills before moving up the top pipe onto the next machine.

Don't ask me how

I just know it works.

[cunning siren]

My liquid knowladge needs practice

[sullen gull]

OOooooook mister Tunnel Rat .... @zenith pecan What's your "trick" for getting around the rocks and such that go down through the terrain? And how far down are you going before running the tunnel?

[feral geyser]

If i knew I was gonna get grilled about my pipes, I'd have taken a picture of the stacked manifold in my smelters 😭

[zenith pecan]

I just go under them.

[sullen gull]

Fair.

[zenith pecan]

Tunnels are at about 120 metres below sea level.

[feral geyser]

Liquids like to flow down, not up, that's all there is to it

If your junction welds are horizontal, you won't have any of the weird z-miscalc that happens with VIPs

[sullen gull]

I have one I need to get into the middle of. Problem is, I and doing some funkiness with building inside of a mega printer and sadly, when I place the "entrance" on the rock, it won't work due to the being in the MBPD lol. So I was hoping for a way I could get in from underneath 🤣

[outer hatch]

200h in, just learned that conveyors lifts auto-snap to containers's I/Os, without any additional belts. Damn, my logistics could have been so more simpler.... 😭

[zenith pecan]

Tunnel access is typically via a shaft #design-and-architecture message

[feral geyser]

Very nice for compact builds

[unkempt blade]

if there isn't like 500m of spaghetti between your boxes and your vertical conveyors are you really even playing satisfactory?

[cunning siren]

#screenshots message What do you think about this question? 🤔

[unkempt blade]

it's glorious!

[sullen gull]

Imo, peruse the pipeline manual and experiment. I've never personally experienced that "new" junction thing, but then again, I am so "ocd" that I have always used junctions as if the "welded" portions were the "junctions" and between the welded portions is the "main line". Also, there is still a lot of "misinformation" that still has seemed to stem from "Well it was like this in UpdateX!" and such. Once you have realized the "basic principles" of flow, gravity, headlift, etc, You can do some "crazy" things 🙂

[sullen gull]

I do that consistenly, and never had an issue myself.

[zenith pecan]

Conveyor straight mode is proper drunk #screenshots message

[sullen gull]

What trips people up I think is when they try to max out a manifold with only one input

[spare ruin]

heh, I just learned that 300 hours in... feel better?

[unkempt blade]

it finally learned how to play like a human!

[zenith pecan]

It gets worse #screenshots message

[cunning siren]

I mean... if I fully OC a water extractor and pipe it with MK.1 then... 🤷 why is that bad?

[sullen gull]

Your floor hole (if the lift is attached, otherwise the lift itself) isn't straight You can see it when you first pull from the lift side 😏

[zenith pecan]

When I turned off straight mode and just left it as default, the belt went in as expected, and it isn't wonky 🤷‍♂️

[sullen gull]

Nothing imo. The pipe can move 300m^3/min. And I always merge two @250 into a 600, fed by two 300's. Fill that beoch up!

[unkempt blade]

I just stick 600 in one side and loop it if it acts wonky

[cunning siren]

I plan to always loop all the liquids

Why not? 🤷

[sullen gull]

Yeah, its most likely due to the lift not being parallel to the splitter/merger. Imo, place a pole 4m in front of the lift, belt to it, then to splitter/merger.

[unkempt blade]

yeah the only real downside is visual clutter but you can hide that building certain ways if you care

[zenith pecan]

I should have filmed it better but they are level.

[hard ivy]

if the belt would be straigt in default mode, it often isn't in straight mode

[sullen gull]

Imo, any "dead head" pipe is a bad pipe.. unless the "dead head" is a single machine.

[feral geyser]

A machine is not a "dead head", it's consuming, it's very much alive.

[sullen gull]

In the beginning of the first video, it's either the belts you're pulling along side or the floor hole, is not straight.

[cunning siren]

I'm not sure what the trick is to have the pipe build modes create a loop in the way one desires. It seems with various modes it will change the path yet not all paths are an option with the build modes sometimes? 🤔 Time to science this bizatch

[sullen gull]

Actually scratch that @zenith pecan, I was thrown off by the angle you're at above it. I see it now.

Sorry

[zenith pecan]

Ahh you're talking about the initial failure to snap to two of the mergers that I wasn't plugging into.

[unkempt blade]

I usually just coerce it with a pipeline support or two if it doesn't go where I want

[sullen gull]

Also, it looked like you were trying to go to the "rear" hole of the merger when pulling from the lift, but then pulled from the side of it when going from merger to lift 🤣

[zenith pecan]

The clip was captured during my initial WTF! moment.

[sullen gull]

No, I was just thinking that basically the lift wasn't properly parallel to the belts beside it. But I see now that I was wrong

[cunning siren]

Yea, maybe I'll add those to the blueprints to make loopin' it afterwards more simple

[sullen gull]

You can use junctions, wall supports and a beam, or wall holes as temporary "snap points" for the pipe. And delete it later.

[latent meadow]

do they keep adding more and more ada voice message each update or just that many i still not heard lol

[sullen gull]

You can connect pipes end to end, you don't need to have anything connecting the segements.

[sullen gull]

There are a fair few from ADA. Though it starts to get strange when you're in a save for so long and you rarely hear from her lol. And then now, there is ElevADA 😏

[latent meadow]

lol i love elevator ada though

[shy mulch]

MMmmmm made more progress than I expected. With a bit of luck my factory might be fully functional tonight

[latent meadow]

her ispiration as you go up

or down lol

[shy mulch]

Looking forward to seeing these sink points haha

[cunning siren]

The stackable pipeline supports are nice sometimes and i love that they are zoopable but also create needless clutter sometimes 🤔

[sullen gull]

Any more, I tend to only use them for that specific aesthetic. It may end up that I have 2-3 segments just to "bend" the pipe in the shapes that I want.

[lucid pulsar]

guys should i get stitched iron plates or bolted frames?

[hard ivy]

plates 100%

[sullen gull]

yes

[feral geyser]

Definitely stitched plates

[lucid pulsar]

thank you guys again

oh yea i got another one, bolted iron plates or copper rotors?

[feral geyser]

I would've said bolted frame before I join this discord.

[cunning siren]

Sometimes It's hard to choose when one has "stepped over ones line" of what is "acceptable building practices" vs. not 🤷 I guess everybody enjoys the game in different ways

[feral geyser]

But Kyo changed my mind.

[feral geyser]

Copper rotors

[sullen gull]

If you can't make a decision atm, you can either re-roll, or just keep it in your list until you need one of them. You will end up having all alternate reciepes if you collect the majority of hard drives.

[feral geyser]

There are 5 extra hard drives on the map, plus one from FICSMAS.

So if you have them all, you'll have 6 leftover after unlocking everything.

[sullen gull]

Erm, don't you need two for the mam as well? or is that included?

[cunning siren]

IDK about a drive from that event, interesting

[feral geyser]

That's included

[cunning siren]

I'm guessing there isn't a way to "screw up" the hard drive thing?

Maybe flushing one down the toliet?

[feral geyser]

I don't think you can flush them. I know you can't sink them

[cunning siren]

I guess one could "drop" one and forget about it 🤔 does that show up on scanner?

[feral geyser]

Also, you can buy hard drive once you get to Tier 8 (expensive af, but still)

[feral geyser]

No, I don't think it would, but I'm not sure. That'd be good to test

[sullen gull]

It would show up on SCIM though 😏

[cunning siren]

Tested... dropped hard drives do not show up on scanner

[sullen gull]

I only recently learned that you can't even trash slugs or shards.

Or, at least I can't on my creative save 😏

[cunning siren]

I just flushed a hard drive! 😆

ADA got mad

[feral geyser]

Bruh

[cunning siren]

You can flush sloops too!

[feral geyser]

Nooooooooo

Stop that

[cunning siren]

I'm in creative mode "designer save"

[hard ivy]

does ada have a special line for flushing nuclear waste? 🤔

[feral geyser]

I was under the impression you couldn't do that

[hard ivy]

you can't sink it. but I'm pretty sure you can flush it

[cunning siren]

You can, ADA tells you "Do you not see the sign" that says "Do not flush" various icons

[feral geyser]

I have never made nuclear waste cuz f that noise

[cunning siren]

It would be worth if if you could flush a stack 😆

Punishment for bad behavior in multiplayer should be to manually flush nuclear waste for 10 min 😆

[cursive phoenix]

guys what do i do with by products from oil

[sullen gull]

sink em or use em

[hard ivy]

get alts so you don't have byproducts in the first place

[sullen gull]

You'll still have "some" type of byproduct, depending on what you're making. HOR for example (Which is one that can get used quite a bit, and still have to sink or use poly resin.

[feral geyser]

I mean, you'll always have byproducts from oil

[cursive phoenix]

u can sink m?

[feral geyser]

You just gotta design your processes to make use of them

[cursive phoenix]

as liquid or package

[feral geyser]

Can't sink liquids

[cursive phoenix]

ik but im at the start of oil production and just need quick plastic and rubber

[feral geyser]

If you are having HOR back up, refine it into fuel and burn it.

[hard ivy]

if it's HOR you can turn it into coke or fuel and burn them for power

[sullen gull]

Liquids could get packaged then put into the sink 😏

[feral geyser]

Then you're not sinking a liquid

[sullen gull]

Yes, however, the question was what to do with byproducts. You have a byproduct and that is an example what what to do with it 😏

[sullen gull]

But, there is liquid in the package ... soooo ... technically .... 😏

[fickle oriole]

my 'info screen's just stay stuck at 'processing' forever, even after save/reload. I've tried putting them on walls, on the ground, etc., no love. any known cause/solution for this?

[sullen gull]

? Info screen? For which machine?

[fickle oriole]

it's called "info screen", you slap it anywhere and put text/image/icon on it. might be from a mod?? (coming back to the game after long break)

it's on the "organization" menu

[sullen gull]

Oh. Not sure, sounds like a mod. You can try asking in the modding discord

[fickle oriole]

will do, ty for the response

[hard ivy]

I'm assuming that's different from a sign?

[cunning siren]

If your goal is purely to maximize AWESOME points from Polymer Resin byproduct, converting it to Fabric via the Polyester Fabric alternate recipe is by far the most effective approach

[fickle oriole]

I guess, I don't have anything called a "sign" I can build.

[cursive phoenix]

eventually when u unlock all of tier 5 u can recylcle the by products, no?

[hard ivy]

not to plastic then canisters?

[cunning siren]

Maybe it is, I did not check that

[hard ivy]

you can do that immediately. resin can be sunk, HOR can be turned into coke and also sunk

[sullen gull]

I was always told fabric as well. Though fabric is just more points than resin.. not sure about containers points though.

[cursive phoenix]

i dont have the packaging one lol

[hard ivy]

nothing I said requires packaging?

[sullen gull]

@hard ivy , it'd be fabric. 140pts vs 60 for empty canisters.

[fickle oriole]

ok, slightly different question. I want to slap a sign on a wall - "Produces Copper Sheet @ 60/min" or whatever. How do I do that? Is it in the base game, the FICSIT shop, ... ?

[cursive phoenix]

Nvm then oops, how do i turn it into coke?

[sullen gull]

You can purchace signs of various sizes in the shop

[sullen gull]

Another refinery 🙂

[cursive phoenix]

🙏

[sullen gull]

Wait ...

[hard ivy]

that's per item, though? they probably have different resin conversion rates

[real shale]

Draw it with beams... Or use signs that works too

[feral geyser]

6 polymer resin yields 72 pts total (12 pts ea)
Can make 4 canisters, which yields 240 pts total (60 pts each)
For a 3.3333× multiplier

Vs

1 polymer resin into 1 fabric (140 ea)
For a 11.6667× multiplier

[real shale]

I like sinking Sam fluctators early on, those give a nice amount of points

[feral geyser]

Plus, it's a single step, not two.

[sullen gull]

And, unless I am missing something ... you can't turn resin into coke?

[cunning siren]

Wooops, looks like the numbers were not 100% but the results were similar

[sullen gull]

plastic, rubber, or fabric

[feral geyser]

No, only HOR turns into coke

[sullen gull]

That's what I thought

[cunning siren]

Updated Ranking (Points per Polymer Resin):

• 1. Polyester Fabric: 140 points per Polymer Resin
• 2. Empty Canisters: 80 points per Polymer Resin
• 3. Direct Plastic: 50 points per Polymer Resin
• 4. Raw Polymer Resin: 12 points per Polymer Resin

[sullen gull]

You can make empty canister with just plastic

[feral geyser]

No steel requirement for Canisters? Not with default recipe anyway

[real shale]

The steel canisters are an alternative recipe

[sullen gull]

There are different varients. You can make empty canisters from iron, steel, and plastic

[feral geyser]

Yes, but then that's outside the scope of the question

Cuz then it's not using polymer resins.

[cunning siren]

OK, Empty Canisters: 80 points per Polymer Resin

[sullen gull]

Sorry, iron plates

Yeah, you'd still have to turn the resin into plastic, then into canisters. Not worth it

[cunning siren]

Fabric wins!

[real shale]

Round 2.... Fight

[sullen gull]

Naughty!

Isn't there different variations of that? Like either people heard different, or different version of the game said something different?

[outer hatch]

Is there a way (SCIM?) to do a search across storage? I seem to have misplaced an entire stack of sloops.

(I have 56 accounted for, and 50 missing. They're not dropped (do not appear on the dropped-items map layer), and all machines have been double checked.)

[cunning siren]

Mouse over boxes 🤷

[rigid mist]

i wish you could make train stations go around corners mine is 20 platforms rn

[cunning siren]

Better than nothin'

[hard ivy]

you can check whether something is in storage in general, but not where

[outer hatch]

Done that. Nothing so far.

[outer hatch]

Can you tell me how? I need to make sure they are somewhere, and that the game didn't just delete them on me in a glitch.

[cunning siren]

Can do that in SCIM and in game with the dismantle mode showing what is in a box on mouse over

[rigid mist]

cause rn it's 6 freight platforms and then 13 empty ones

[hard ivy]

statistics - stored parts

[heavy pine]

Satisfactory's a great game, but you know what it could use? Boobs. 😄

[outer hatch]

Thanks! (46 stored - they are somewhere, it's a relief.)

[mint wind]

It could use working pipes. I hate pipes. Pipes hate me.

[sullen gull]

Probably not appropriate. However, your pioneer is female.

[rigid mist]

how about no?

[shy mulch]

You should investigate lizard doggos a bit closer

[cunning siren]

😆 where else would they be?

You didn't flush them so, they are some where

[sullen gull]

🚽

[heavy pine]

1. Yes, probably not appropriate if the game wants to keep its current ESRB rating
2. Aww, you're no fun. But I get it, that's not everyone's cup of tea.
3. If they're lizards, they're by definition non-mammallian and thus would not have boobs.

[outer hatch]

Counter argument to 3 - Argonians.

[outer hatch]

Well, you never know, A.D.A has been prone to glitch...

[shy mulch]

If no boobs, how milk

[heavy pine]

True, though I don't think I've ever played as one of those. No real interest in lizardfolk.

[outer hatch]

(Found them, incidentally. Thanks for the help!)

[shy mulch]

Somersloop stack: New hide and seek champion

[feral geyser]

We are all women, but don't make it weird

[heavy pine]

Now I'm picturing the devs putting the pioneer in a bikini, but it's just a bikini worn on top of her overalls/environment suit/whatever that is.

[feral geyser]

Bruh

[sullen gull]

https://tenor.com/view/jensen-ackles-dean-winchester-lame-gif-21030272

[mint wind]

There is atleast 3 head sizes but you cant config your body

Also why does it let me chose an overall color if the hazard suit that i wear constantly is yellow anyways 🙁

[frail sleet]

It has a bug where it doesn't take into account one of the colors. I think it was blue

[hard ivy]

that'd be a funny response to people asking for fanservice

but I haven't seen anyone asking for that yet

[heavy pine]

Well, apart from me. 😄

[frail sleet]

pioneer outfit dlc when

[mint wind]

Wait so you CAN change Hazard suit color?

[frail sleet]

yes, it just drops one of the color channels (mostly)

so certain colors work but others are heavily distorted

[feral geyser]

My signature purple is #6445AA and my secondary is safety yellow (#BCFF00), with black overalls.

[heavy pine]

Coffee Stain could do collabs with Team Ninja. Satisfactory Xtreme Beach Volleyball.

[mint wind]

I just took it as a "ok doesnt work" after using one color. That opens up alot more possibilitys to look weird, thats great

[frail sleet]

Me too, but eventually figured it out 😄

I was playing in co-op and my friend's color worked. Mine went from blue to brown or something.

[feral geyser]

64_hex = 100_dec
45_hex = 69_dec 😏
and AA are my first two initials.

[heavy pine]

I'm using shades of green and yellow from Rogue's sprites in X-Men vs. Street Fighter.

[feral geyser]

Niiice

[heavy pine]

I'm kinda obsessed with her. In much the same way that Jupiter is kinda big.

[frozen shoal]

My ego makes jupiter look small.

[feral geyser]

The last female character I got "obsessed with" in a game was Kara, but it was for philosophical purposes 😳

I wrote a short essay on freewill for a class.

[heavy pine]

I've had a crush on Rogue since the early 90's, so like 30+ years.

[shy mulch]

Why do programmers always get confused between halloween and christmas?
Because OCT 31 = DEC 25

[feral geyser]

6×9 = 42?

(In base 13)

[sullen gull]

Do you even math bro? 🤣

[feral geyser]

I dare you to check me

[sullen gull]

Lol, i didn't see the addendum until after I sent 😏

[limpid cairn]

@obsidian zodiac will we ever get fan service of Ada or the pioneer ?
(Can be posted as a video if needed )

[mint wind]

Is there a way to avoid Flowrate/liquid loss from pumps

[feral geyser]

We can't leave any of our bad human habits back on Earth, can we?

[hard ivy]

pumps don't cause flowrate issues?

[heavy pine]

A screen shot I posted a few weeks ago... #screenshots message

[feral geyser]

Woweee

[limpid cairn]

Gotta satisfy the earthers with more than just 1000 nuclear pasta and 256 ai servers

[outer hatch]

Satisfactory 🤝 Stardew Valley
(making pixel art with objects not meant to)

(... Nice, by the way)

[mint wind]

Then how do i explain that my System is running on 600/m flowrate after flushing up until the pump where it Fluctuates between 450 and 530/m and a Headlift of 34m out of 50

[feral geyser]

Send pics of your setup in a #1038092680493801533 thread

[mint wind]

I hate pipes. Pipes hate me. I wanna belt liquids 🙁

[hard ivy]

good news! you can. just package them

[mint wind]

And then unpackage them. In pipes 🤣

[hard ivy]

yeah, do that right before the machines and no issues 😂

[sullen gull]

Assuming you're feeding into a single manifold, don't. Make it a loop.

[mint wind]

Interestingly the manifold isnt the issue that thing feeds just fine, its the heavy oil residue that gives me issues

[limpid cairn]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/satisfactory_gamepedia_en/images/3/39/Pipeline_Manual.pdf

Plumber manual

[bronze oriole]

i am free i have aquired the nut archivement

[feral geyser]

get that nut

And before November too, nice

I heard that you can't buy that statue in November.

[limpid cairn]

please tell me the name of the achievement is deez nuts

[bronze oriole]

do you need that

and yes i do =)

[terse kindle]

I changed my Swatches #1,2,3 and 4 to something dumb and am trying to get them back to their defaults. I'd rather not start a new game and play until I unlock the customizer to learn what the values are. Is there a resource somewhere that list the default swatches values? Could xomeone please help me change them back?

[sullen gull]

You could just start a creative save to find it.

Not sure if SCIM could reset them as well...

[feral geyser]

They should add a button that does that.

[terse kindle]

wouldnt that be nice

Its not a big deal honestly, I'll probably follow Tinker's advice and start a creative save and grab screenshots

[lament niche]

#screenshots message

how many U0-U2ers do we still have in here

[shy mulch]

Not me. Can you explain the screenshot?

[feral geyser]

Belt ramps instead of lifts

[shy mulch]

Ah. Dunno why but I'd assumed they were a relatively more recent addition

[zenith pecan]

Eww, pre-lift spirals.

With the sheer number of conveyor lifts i'd use, them not existing before resulted in monstrosities just to change elevations.

[midnight ocean]

conveyor lifts are the best part of the game

[lament niche]

*belt spirals

[cunning siren]

Oooof, pre lift game play

Imagine if lifts could also go horizontal 🤯 I would love the infinate lift bug a lot more at that point 😆

Or if belts had no length limitations

[burnt ferry]

#screenshots message I put these items there eventually as i needed the space in inventory.... I removed them from those slots after I finished the scouting tour; since then, whenever I reload my save (like latest autosave that is), those items will re appear in these slots.. idk whether i have effectively duped them

[lament niche]

what if I told you I did that whole other skyscraper with lifts

and that this building's shtick is going to be conveyor spirals

[burnt ferry]

lifts are vertical powerlines with a max length of 196m

[lament niche]

yeah no

[burnt ferry]

well, if youre not using them for that youre missing out (besides however you use them else, it is not exclusive)

same as every trainstation except the first one is a far reach power outlet, i.e. if theres a train going there, you dont need to chain power poles to that place

[fickle oriole]

hi, what's the recommended way to copy/paste a buncha buildings that are too big to fit in the blueprint - say smelters to constructors to storage container block. The 'area actions' mod is marked as broken, i don't see anything else...

[limpid cairn]

Build the bp expandable

[lament niche]

they don't go 196 meters. I would know.

if you're talking conveyor lifts, that is

[steady glade]

actual lifts

[fickle oriole]

sorry, what's the 'bp expandable'?

[steady glade]

elevators

[burnt ferry]

#screenshots message

[shrewd palm]

if the building is physically too big to put into a blueprint then there isnt really a way to mass paste them without a mod for bigger blueprints, so you just have to manually place them

[burnt ferry]

conveyor lifts neither require power nor do they have outlets

[shrewd palm]

although if you dont want to use mods and the building can fit inside then i guess only place 1 with the right connection points so that you can auto connect them

[lament niche]

posts elevator

"this is a lift guys"

[burnt ferry]

so obviously i wasnt talkinga about conveyor lifts

but my wording was incorrect

in german all these are 'lifts'

[shrewd palm]

classic shortfall of europe smh my head

[elder apex]

Sounds like you are open to mods since you already mentioned trying one, use the Megaprinters mod to get a bigger designer ( 24x24 or 48x48 IIRC )

[lament niche]

also, I love how "personal" elevators are fucking just freight elevators lmao

[lament niche]

it does both those sizes

[shrewd palm]

everything is bigger in satisfactory

[burnt ferry]

freight? how so?

[lament niche]

shun the nonbeliever who has never used a freight elevator irl

[burnt ferry]

ah you mean visually

not functionally?

[midnight ocean]

functionally a lift is a lift

[lament niche]

I CAN FIT A WHOLE ASS SERVICE CART THROUGH THAT DOOR

[burnt ferry]

you can fit it inside.. not sure if it fits through the door irl

you should try driving the cybertruck inside

[lament niche]

you've never used a service cart I see

[shrewd palm]

although those sizes are insanely large and probably big enough to fit entire factories, the mk3 blueprinter in game should fit every building and the largest that i can see being used is maybe 10x10 or something in case you need to blueprint water extractors

[feral geyser]

Forklifts in Satisfactory when

[midnight ocean]

also its personnel not personal lifts

[burnt ferry]

i did... hence i know you need to shrink to fit inside 😂

[lament niche]

they aren't much wider than a human

[burnt ferry]

yes

thats my point 😂

[lament niche]

I have the PLC I'm working on for a lego project sitting on one in my garage right now. About 36 inches, could definitely fit through that door

[midnight ocean]

the lifts do remind me of ones i used for catering though

[burnt ferry]

i mean y ou craft it in the equipment shop

its a toy

[lament niche]

sir there isn't a service cart in the game. factory carts aren't the same thing

[burnt ferry]

i dont care for wording

[lament niche]

they literally aren't the same type of cart, but okay

[steady glade]

☝️ 🤓

[lament niche]

thats like telling me service carts and hopper carts are the same thing lmao

[lament niche]

silence, brit

[burnt ferry]

#screenshots message

[lament niche]

I do not care how many times you want to tell me a self propelled toy called a factory cart is a service cart, it's not.

[burnt ferry]

i still dont care.. if you talk about 'cart' in a satisfactory chat i think the toy cart from the equipment shop

[lament niche]

so, trolling

got it

[burnt ferry]

na. that would be when i tallked about the dyson sphere just calling it sphere

luring you into thinking mercer sphere and then going lol its dyson sphere

[feral geyser]

Dyson Cube Project (topologically equivalent)

[lament niche]

bro is literally trying to argue with someone who's actually used a service cart about what a service cart is

[feral geyser]

I would wager

That no one aside from you cares

[zenith fractal]

how y'all feel bout conveyor spaghetti with byproduct sauce?

[burnt ferry]

bro couldnt give less of a fuck what a service cart is 😂

and if that angers someone: excellent :burns:

[feral geyser]

Kids, kids... you're both, just... awful

[lament niche]

oh man my coworkers are going to be drunk and laughing their asses off at yall tn

[burnt ferry]

thanks

[zenith fractal]

what does F.E.E.T stand for?

[burnt ferry]

feet ejaculation extract time

[lament niche]

about... what

[feral geyser]

Forward Exploration and Examination Team 🫡 at your service

[zenith fractal]

epic

keep doing the good work with exploration

[feral geyser]

(My auto fill did that whole thing 😭 )

[midnight ocean]

so that means you can tell me where stuff is on the map?

[feral geyser]

Maybe

And if i can't tell you, I'll find it

[burnt ferry]

its a joke.. 'spaghetti' refers to chaotically built belts (looking like spaghetti going over and under each other) and bro pretended as if it was reallly pasta and asked yer about them sauces

[lament niche]

yes. if you walk far enough off the side of the map, you can build under the map

[fickle oriole]

hi, if i can ask a follow-up - am I maybe doing the 'Wrong Way' in designing factories? What I was thinking of doing is designing a floor that can take say 60 units/minute of its needed inputs, and produces Y units/minute of its output. As miners and belts scale up, to go from 60 to 120 input and Y to 2Y output, I would just copy/paste the existing facility as a new floor on top. But those ground floors typically have say 8ish buildings in them, and are much too big for blueprint designer. Are my floors too big?

[midnight ocean]

idk what i want to find but ill keep that in mind

[burnt ferry]

you built for 1200/min right from the beginning

and then only upgrade the belts

[lament niche]

you really got the whole class laughing with that one.

🤓

[steady glade]

i used to do the same, 8 is really big at your stage, but maybe its worth it if you stack machines over each other or if you redesign them later

[burnt ferry]

i trolled you by pretending you were someone who needs a joke explained.. thats worse than being an actual joke explainer

[feral geyser]

I'll make some Stinger ragu sauce for my spaghet

[burnt ferry]

im not doing satire, im doing grotesque. i dont care if people laugh or cry

[lament niche]

you know, comedy requires a punchline

I'm trying to find who asked

[feral geyser]

Bro shut the fuck up

Let people have their fun, quit being a curmudgeon

[burnt ferry]

what makes you think theres one?

[feral geyser]

At very least go to off topic if you're gonna dick measure

[fickle oriole]

so is it more common to have, say, a floor of smelters feeding a floor of constructors feeding a floor of assemblers feeding a floor of storage containers/belts out? How do you get nice small floors?

[feral geyser]

I do 5 walls between each floor, that's enough to get belts on the ceiling to feed the floor above.

[burnt ferry]

someone loose the cap of my dna shaker

[lament niche]

usually four is enough unless you're doing refineries

[burnt ferry]

now my food is overdnaed

[steady glade]

you can probably do the entiere process on one florr unless its not very wide

[steady glade]

im pretty sure you're talking about reinforced plates

[feral geyser]

I always try to keep smelters/foundries on ground floor and have product move up

[lament niche]

yes.

[fickle oriole]

nah, i'm talking about whatever - so far I've built factories for Modular Frames, Smart something (plating?), and now am doing it for VF and automated wiring

and I keep thinking I'm Doing It Wrong 🙂

[burnt ferry]

floor of smelters? its spelled refinery

[shrewd palm]

what you're doing is fine but just a heads up trying to futureproof/upgrade everything as soon as you get new stuff is generally going to be very slow, so its probably better to just build with whatever you have and then once you have everything upgrade it all at the end of your playthrough when you have mk6 belts and mk3 power poles and all the power shards you could dream of

[feral geyser]

Pure recipe enjoyer

[lament niche]

Lemme show you my heavy modular frames factory some time

[burnt ferry]

na thats good.. keep them special mat productions,youlll need them for later phases

[zenith fractal]

behold the ruiner of days

[steady glade]

high floors isnt really an issue, its a good idea to future proof for next phase, you'll use big buildings

[shrewd palm]

if you have to build with floors just do what other people are saying and have a floor dedicated to refining, tier 1 recipes, tier 2 recipes, etc

[burnt ferry]

high floor only matters for fluid.. and that again only matters if the fluid is meant for power generation (late game fuels are gases which donlt have that issue)

and of course dont forget to glitch your conveyor lifts to any length by snapping them into floor holes

(to go full circle: conveyor lifts do in fact get as long as 196m.. much longer if you want)

[feral geyser]

It's too bad we can't ride conveyor lifts like we can with belts

[burnt ferry]

ye

[fickle oriole]

ty. how do you ensure that the floor hole is perfectly aligned vertically with the conveyor lift, before you build the latter?

[burnt ferry]

or drones i wanna ride drones like trains

[feral geyser]

But I don't need to be put on The List ™ again

[south sinew]

start from the floor hole

[burnt ferry]

world grid and then looking at the markins of the foundation

[elder apex]

the Megaprinters blueprint designers also have tall versions that are just as tall as they are in width and depths, so you should have no problem putting multiple floors into them. Also, the blueprints work once they have been saved even without the mod loaded. Alternately, you could just keep the floors as separate blueprints and drop them as you need them.

[burnt ferry]

no.. that way the length is limited

[shrewd palm]

i just bring the lift up really high, make a floor hole around it, then demolisj and reconnect the lift

[burnt ferry]

you need to start at the other point and then snap into the hole to make it glitch unlimited length

[lament niche]

you make sure it fits in the square hole first

[feral geyser]

It literally is a square hole

[burnt ferry]

you cant bring the lift up high guys.. because it exceeds the length the lift can have without the hole 😂

[lament niche]

that's the joke.

[burnt ferry]

you actually have to place the holes at the right place and then put the lift accordingly

[feral geyser]

Where?

[burnt ferry]

if its about short lift then yes, put the lift first, to see where the hole goes

[feral geyser]

It wasn't funny

And comedy needs a punchline

(Get wrekt nub)

[zenith fractal]

look at this thief

rascal

master of mischief

[lament niche]

kill it. grab the xenobasher and kill it

lizard doggos bad

[feral geyser]

Mods, ban this guy

[feral geyser]

My friend, you bow to no one 🥺

[burnt ferry]

why cant i add emotireactions toh im

[void cliff]

Flora and Fauna are all to be exploited and that includes training lizard doggie as scavenger

[burnt ferry]

works for normal people

[lament niche]

no, that includes eating lizard doggo

[mortal ginkgo]

ok hear me out, where is are they getting so many nobelisks if I can't even make them myself?

[feral geyser]

I don't ask, and they don't tell, and it works for both us.

[mortal ginkgo]

#screenshots message

#screenshots message

[mortal ginkgo]

Yeah but they are scaring me.

[burnt ferry]

i buy all my nobs with coupons

havent build a single black powder or nob production line

[feral geyser]

As long as you keep giving them head pats, you have nothing to worry about.

[feral geyser]

Bro, munitions factories are so fun though

[midnight ocean]

i always hand make them i dont use enough to need a production line

[feral geyser]

I will always advocate it as an awesome mid game project

[burnt ferry]

why? i put a few coupons and get 200 frag nobs

[shrewd palm]

then you're using them wrong smh my head

[burnt ferry]

that will change 😂

[feral geyser]

Decent sink value, useful, always have them on hand without needing to spend anything.

[lament niche]

shun the nonbeliever

[feral geyser]

Have you guys seen my P.I.S.S. factory? (Pioneer Industrial Safety Supply)

[midnight ocean]

i just make a storage chest full every so often and that lasts me for a while

[burnt ferry]

f.e.e.t. and p.i.s.s.... decent choice

[lament niche]

its easier to just automate at that point lmao

[feral geyser]

Oh, i have more lmao.

[burnt ferry]

a frag nob is a bit more efficient than the chainsaw

[feral geyser]

Unless you want that juicy bio-matter 🤤

[mortal ginkgo]

I am constantly providing dem headpats. One even got out of the cage I made for them and I have no idea how, to this very day.

[burnt ferry]

what sink value does a nob have? my coupon price is at 44 million points

[feral geyser]

Not enough to be worth it for you lmao

[midnight ocean]

i dont have those yet

[feral geyser]

But that's even more reason to not spend coupons on them.

[midnight ocean]

not worth the effort

[feral geyser]

BECAUSE your coupons are so expensive.

[burnt ferry]

i have 170 coupons

when i needed coupons mid game i just slaughtered some aliens and made dna

[feral geyser]

I mean, I guess if everything is unlocked, and you have/don't care about the trophies, go ham.

[zenith fractal]

counter argument, golden nut.

[feral geyser]

But what's the point of the game if not to build factories?

[burnt ferry]

im saving for the 1000 coupon thing..nobs are cheap

2 coupons stack of 50.. i need 3 stacks everynow and then

[feral geyser]

That's 88 million points at least for a few nobs

[burnt ferry]

normal nobs are 1 coupon even

[feral geyser]

Seems pricey af to me

[burnt ferry]

a lot more.. the 44 million is random.. i dont know how far towards the end/beginning of one coupon that is

[feral geyser]

When instead, you could build a factory, have them coming in for free, and be earning a little extra off of it.

[shrewd palm]

lost of cheap things add up in the long term

[feral geyser]

More the reason

[burnt ferry]

but again: i have 170 coupons.. and dont forget dna.. that price doesnt increase exponentially

[feral geyser]

Right, of course

[burnt ferry]

im playing passive aliens btw.. so i just slaughter them without stress

and they respawsn fast

[feral geyser]

You do you, but making my ammo factory was fun and satisfying, even more so than my SC factory.

[mortal ginkgo]

Let them hug you back!

[zenith fractal]

personally I do retaliate aliens

I only fight if I want combat

[burnt ferry]

nah all good.. every factory is equally both useless and usefull... like i handcrafted/coupon glitched the first three phases instead of building construction.. just my choice

[feral geyser]

I want a mod that make them more aggressive. They should hunt me down in my factory (teasing)

[zenith fractal]

however I do love doing normal aliens around the swamp area

I like seeing those cats go

[burnt ferry]

its a game about factory building, so i f youwant to build a factory then build it of course

[midnight ocean]

i wonder how long satisfactory would take without any factories

[burnt ferry]

im deliberately NOT playing factorio.. so no. keep that mod to you 😂

[zenith fractal]

longer than it's been released for

probably

[burnt ferry]

dna is so efficient, you can glitch A LOT

like my first batch of dna into the sink gave me 60 coupons

[mortal ginkgo]

slooping dem DNA stuff can get you 4x amount which is tons

[burnt ferry]

early game.. and i didnt even somerslop my productionu chain back then..

[burnt ferry]

yep.. didnt know about it back then

and no it wont get you 4x the coupons. but 4x the dna

price stil increases.. not exponentially but it increases

[zenith fractal]

that's what they said?

[feral geyser]

Up to a limit

[mortal ginkgo]

Early Game plan:

1- Start in Rocky Desert.
2-Go for East to grab some Berries. 7 is enough.
3-Grab all the doggos closeby to your spawn area. There are around 6 and 1 or 2 a lil bit away.
4-Hug your mom
5-???
6-PROFT OMG RIP BOZOS LET THE SUPERMOTORS ROLLING AYAYAYAYAYAY

[burnt ferry]

wasnt sure.. but youre right.. can read both ways

[mortal ginkgo]

thats what I said my brotherman of century

[burnt ferry]

unprecise though

hence i had to aid

[mortal ginkgo]

the only person that would get it the other way would be my mom.

my mom is like that sometimes. but she is cool. being mom is hard, I get that, I really do. yes.

[cunning glade]

I get distracted overclocking when I need too factory why is overclocking so addictive

[feral geyser]

Since you're gonna be pedantic, it'd be "imprecise"

[burnt ferry]

so you wanted to insult me with your mom, realizing your mistake midway? 😂

dude, my mom is so fat, that........ hold on

😂 \

[mortal ginkgo]

you are REALLY good at taking things wrong way, thats why you are a brotherman of mine. I dig. 10/10. Would let you misunderstand things again.

[zenith fractal]

I must ask, how long will my 4k aluminium ingot factory last me? in phase 4.

[burnt ferry]

forever

i dont think i hit 4k yet even

youll need the simpler mats in LARGE amounts late game.. i was a bit surprised

like with power shards you can easily exceed mk6 belts by one input only sometimes

[mortal ginkgo]

Daily Reminder: You all owe me your "Alternate: Heavy Encased Frame" recipes.

Yes, yes you do.

[vernal karma]

My oil refinery’s stop working but they have power and oil?

[feral geyser]

Byproducts?

Any crude oil process outputs two items, one liquid, one solid. You gotta deal with both.

[vernal karma]

I figured it out thank you lol

[shrewd palm]

probably the entire run if you're not maxing out other stuff

even when going for fairly large numbers factories dont tend to use over 1000 aluminum unless you want them to, and the factories that go that high will be very few in number

[zenith fractal]

I see

[cunning siren]

Tiny blueprint maker encourages me to do all sorts of "jamming lifts into mergers and splitters" shenanigans 🤔

[mortal ginkgo]

I think that way of putting mergers etc is intentional

splitters snap to lifts like that

saving you fair amount of space

[cunning siren]

Would be nice to nudge lifts vs. use funky ways to make connections

Wait, do nudged lifts connect 🤔 time to find out

[cunning glade]

Chat need a little assistance

I wanna use one train station too steal some hmf computers and rubber and plastic

Is that possible without fucking up the stuff

Ig just smart splitter?

Wait I can select unload only

I forget the gear I may be okay

[mortal ginkgo]

incredible amount of pain and suffering awaits you while LOADING them.

[zenith fractal]

i never enjoy mixing freight, it's a headache and need trouble shooting especially at a large scale.

[mortal ginkgo]

Unloading MIGHT be good, but loading will be agony.

[zenith fractal]

I just use 1 cart for 1 resource

[mortal ginkgo]

Just use one freight for each

[cunning glade]

Okay I think I'll manage

[cunning siren]

Only one part of the nudged lift connects 🤔 this is better than 0 parts 🙂‍↕️

[cunning glade]

After this phase 3 will be done soon

Technically 100 mins I think

[shy mulch]

go go go 🙂

[sharp sentinel]

Batteries better than rocket fuel for drones, or nah?

[naive pendant]

Batteries, rocket fuel basically identical in properties and ease of production imo.

[feral geyser]

Batteries have slightly less overall energy, so you'll use more of them, but they are cheaper and easier to make than RF, also why not burn the RF?

Flight speed is identical.

[naive pendant]

Energy per what?

[feral geyser]

Per battery

[sharp sentinel]

I've just been very active and hand-fed rocket fuel to my 30 drones, so I was curious.

[naive pendant]

Gotcha. For drones you care about the flight speed and the amound carried per drone I thought which depends on stack size.

[feral geyser]

Well, the amount (stack count) carried is always the same

Speed matters, yes, but fuel consumption rate matters too

[cunning glade]

So how do I make a place only load one train cart and not all 4 is that not possible

[shrewd palm]

only load one platform

[true mulch]

Use empty platforms to space it out

In case it's not the first one after the locomotive, that is

[cunning glade]

Hmm I see so I have a design flaw

[true mulch]

Assign 1 resource type to each freight car and follow that

Avoid mixing cargo until you have a hang of it

[cunning glade]

That's what I'm doing the issue is when I wanna do 1 train with diff resources in each car since I have them built 4 in a row

I figured it would work a little diff which is my bad

[cunning siren]

OK nudge with lifts CAN be handy! 🤔

[sharp sentinel]

#screenshots message

Anyone know what the deal is here?

[feral geyser]

Don't stare into it, are you crazy??

[shy mulch]

obviously you have some blue

[sharp sentinel]

It's right under where all my nuclear waste is stored. Hrm.

[shy mulch]

Exciting times, my factory appears to be fully functional. Just got to wait like an hour for manifolds to sort themselves out then I can start releasing it to the sink

[lavish panther]

ngl i think satisfactory is the only game i really bought early access into :

[cunning siren]

Show us all those PHAT stacks of coupons as they roll in

[shy mulch]

will do 😄

[wide cradle]

should I choose alternate: fused wire or alternate: biocoal

fused wire right?

[lavish panther]

which do u need

[wide cradle]

cuz bio coal Id need to farm byh nd

[lavish panther]

if u dont need biocoal then dont take biocoal

[cunning siren]

I would re-roll personally 🤷

[lavish panther]

i js reinstalled this game ngl the lfg isnt as bumping as it used to be

[outer scarab]

yah the game is a bit old now

[lavish panther]

tbf i used the lfg when the game was in beta so

[outer scarab]

Hey I am making a bus, but need an idea how to ship stuff to the bus that isnt just a smaller bus or trains/vehicles, any ideas?

[lavish panther]

perchance conveyors

[outer scarab]

the LFG never worked for me after they updated it so it's not just a chat room

[cunning siren]

Made my first "real factory blueprint" for 20x Reinforced Iron Plates using only Mk.2 belts 😆 was WAY more involved than I thought it was gonna be. I wanted it remain modular and expand to a max MK.6 manifold with all parts though so... kind of made it harder for myself

[lavish panther]

waaait wtf train??

[steady glade]

@unkempt blade

[wary perch]

Your getting a vision of a future update where you put other liquids in your coffee cup

[outer scarab]

how long ago did you play this that you missed trains?

[lavish panther]

...

i mean ive opened the game since then and maybe played when trains were out

never seen a train

me too

[outer scarab]

I honestly hate trains in this game