satisfactory

[vestal hill]

Well it’s early morning for me, I gotta head to school but once I get back and finish all the work I’m sure to get I should be hopping onto satisfactory

Don’t worry I was sick the last two days and those were mostly spent ok satisfactory

Just got back into it you see

[glad drum]

Oh hell yeah - 1.1 has been a good time to get back into it.

I haven't even built an elevator yet 🙁

GL at school, hope you feel better my dude. Post some of your factory goodness

[vestal hill]

Yess I played with 1.1 but didn’t really like my old play through so I’m restarting

Tyty, feel mostly better now

When it’s off of phase one I will lol

[teal geyser]

Restarts are sometimes good

Fresh starts

[vestal hill]

Have a nice sleep!

[vestal hill]

Yepp miss all my luxuries tho

Very inefficient. Wish I didn’t have to

[placid stirrup]

And cause potentially irreversible damage to your brain

[cunning siren]

I'm starting to realize that if I can use a lift vs a belt for a manifold it's a good idea since lifts are much more simple to reconfigure splitters and mergers on them 🤔 I mean... lifts have sooo many features over belts now

[vestal hill]

#screenshots message @glad drum you are chilling I don’t see the issue

[vestal hill]

How you gonna link it up tho

[teal geyser]

Not enough time in the day sometimes

[cunning siren]

With a belt through a manifold obvi 🤷 I'll show you what i'm saying with a screenshot in a sec

[vestal hill]

Kk

[placid stirrup]

I've converted to vertical shaft manifolds being my preferred factory logistic

[cunning siren]

#screenshots message This is what I'm sayin'

[placid stirrup]

Real buildings use both vertical and layers for logistics distribution, both are good still haha

[cunning siren]

I have yet to abuse the new lift mountpoint features much, that good aye?

[vestal hill]

That confused me

[cunning siren]

See how the left uses lifts and the right uses belts?

[vestal hill]

Mhm

OHHH I SEE

okay that’s really smart cuz you need that space for the verticalness of the buildings

[cunning siren]

Belts don't auto connect on splitter / merger placement either so win win for lifts

[vestal hill]

Damn

[placid stirrup]

Ohhh that's what you mean, directly for machines and not throughout a factory

[vestal hill]

I think I want to

[cunning siren]

I do both sometimes, I try to keep the design fully modular to be able to expand the manifold to MK.6 belts if I wanted. Have yet to try something like that vertically 🤔

[placid stirrup]

Ok I don't mean stacking machines haha, just a shaft to distribute resources to various levels

[cunning siren]

I could do some kind of vertical bus I guess now that there are mount points but man... that would be a mess to manage

[placid stirrup]

It only simplifies things if you're building vertically, 5+ levels or so

[cunning siren]

Yea I guess a cube is the most dense idea

[cunning siren]

Screws are kind of a funny part, it's like with MK.2 belts and Heavy Modular Frames we starving for them then after we switch to Heavy Encased Frame and Stitched Iron Plate we use screws for Copper Rotor... and that's about it 😆 "Screws" is a valid part name for it because it screws us royally making a big build that eventually does almost nothing 🤔

[frozen shoal]

what other games like this do you guys play?

[frozen shoal]

the thing is, the stuff that requires screws, requires 10s of thousands so you always have to be making them.

[cunning siren]

"always" until those alt recipes then almost never 🤷

[frozen shoal]

yes always. even with alt recipes unlocked. they are easy and cheap to make and just dump overflow into sink. I set mine and forgot all about it and just let it rack up tickets. SHRUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGS

I guess there's more to life to worry about then being over screwed. 💪

[feral geyser]

I don't get the screw hate

[cunning siren]

I understand it more

I didn't about a week ago

[feral geyser]

I do like the alts that don't use them, but I'm not gonna avoid screws for no reason

Especially not with aluminum beams + steel screws.

[cunning siren]

Right

Steel screws is nice if you have a spare sloopage at the start

[feral geyser]

Yeah, one constructor on beams can max out a Mk5 belt of screws with the steel screws recipe

Like, it's not that bad.

[frozen shoal]

I personally always find myself needing them so I just left mine active from the start. when not needing it makes great mats for sinking.

Hand on the Bible, I'm a decent man
No, I ain't perfect, but I'm learning how to be the best I can
But I got demons collecting dust
And I buried them so damn far down
So they can't find their way back up
So don't mistake my kindness for weakness
'Cause I could flip that switch
And you could find out quick (and you could find out quick)

[feral geyser]

There's basically nothing build-wise that uses screws, so you basically never need to store them.

AWESOME shop is the only thing, and let's be real, who's spamming out AWESOME shops?

[frozen shoal]

me. Im trying to reach the millions/tickets

[feral geyser]

And then some equipment pieces, which, it's easy enough to get a few stacks from a machine.

[frozen shoal]

I'm between 650-700K right now

[feral geyser]

Making extra shops doesn't help with that lmao.

[frozen shoal]

I know

I only have one shop

[feral geyser]

You gotta sink higher value stuff than just screws, bruv 😭

[frozen shoal]

you can access tickets though fgrom multi shops

[frozen shoal]

who says I'm not?

you can have one shop dump a bunch of stuff at once

[feral geyser]

Are you mixing up AWESOME shops and AWESOME sinks??

[frozen shoal]

my sink shop is actually real close to a SAM deposit so im mining that turning it into stuff and sinking it for shits n giggles

nope

the shop is for spending tickets, sink is to deposit. nothing to get mixed up. but they are related and used together.

wanting to hit 1Mil/ticket doesn't have anything to do with buying stuff in the shop itself.

[feral geyser]

I was concerned cuz of this

[frozen shoal]

oh I meant shop as in mini factory fuor dumping. dunno why I said shop lol

blame the dab.

[feral geyser]

Ah okay, it was vocabulary overlap

[frozen shoal]

last call of house of mirrors

we are not sick, but we are not well
we are just toxic twins on a caracel

[feral geyser]

Carousel

[frozen shoal]

im probably an odd ball, but I mainly play this game just for building things, not neccsaracially for the aspect of making things and all that. if that makes sense at all?

[frozen shoal]

im the worlds worst speller.

[feral geyser]

That makes sense, cuz there is a good chunk of architectural capability in this game.

[cunning siren]

"The best part of the game is making screws" ~ Snutt Treptow, August 15th, 2023 😆

[feral geyser]

Smart guy

[frozen shoal]

agreed

[frozen shoal]

agreed. I just tore down my first/main factory to redo it all. not sure if I should start with the building first or machines haha or even know how I want to build it.

[feral geyser]

I did that when I got to steel, and then I realized how futile it was lmao

You'll spend the rest of the game rebuilding if you keep doing that

[frozen shoal]

I wish I could use a draw pad to use when building, make it easier to move things with a pen stylus for me

[frozen shoal]

I haver almost 1K hours into palworld. it's all breeding and building. lmao

it's great OCPD therapy.

Plus im in Phase 5 and don't care about completing it at this time. maybe when my factory is fully built.

[feral geyser]

This game does soothe an itch

[frozen shoal]

100% very good therapy in mainy ways

[feral geyser]

One that Gold Bond ™ cannot

[frozen shoal]

this is really the only sim I have played, because TCG trading card game. where you do your own card shop.

[swift turret]

I've spent the last 15 hours remaking my 130 hour world and im starting to think it's gonna be easier to restart from scratch cuz Im not even close to caught up yet 😭

[feral geyser]

It's almost always easier to find new veins and build a new factory, instead of tearing down and rebuilding.

If you second factory is larger and better, you can just reroute the entire old factory to sink and start getting tons of points.

[swift turret]

I deleted everything from the world excepy my rocket fuel factory

[feral geyser]

Oh 😳

[swift turret]

And now im rebuilding and I keep running out of resources so my attention then goes to making a train system around that resource

and ive been doing that for 15 hours

[feral geyser]

Yeah, that's a rough spot. At least you have power 😂

[swift turret]

literally

[frozen shoal]

this is what i am figuring out. where I built my new hub area, has veins all over and a nitro deposit close by.

[swift turret]

might just be easier to start a new save cuz this is torture

[feral geyser]

I recommend, as always:
Munitions factory

Just cuz

Yeah, that might've been a bad call

[frozen shoal]

im fairly new to the game still, 230ish hours and most of that is building and messign with machines and building power

should go to bed as I have PT and ciro tomorrow but blah

[feral geyser]

Ammo factory is fun cuz: a) it brings in a bunch of different resources, b) it has practical value, and c) your guests will love you for having supplies for them.

[versed mesa]

Am on Bauxite mining missions over high mountains but I keep dieing with big monsters lol

[swift turret]

#screenshots message One benefit is I learned a lot about trains and know how to properly manage resources now so it wasn't a total waste

[swift turret]

nuke em

[feral geyser]

See? Case in point for ammo factory 😏

[swift turret]

It was literally like that for me when I went to the swamp to get bauxite

[cunning siren]

Make this panic room blueprint! 😆 #screenshots message

[frozen shoal]

what guests?

[swift turret]

move the camera away they're too close 😭

[feral geyser]

(In Gollum voice)
you don't have any friends, nobody likes you

[versed mesa]

Some times I try todo that I jeep making thr mistakes and getting kill and have no health to refill so am going to make some now before I leave again lol

[swift turret]

make inhalers

[versed mesa]

Yeah I'm gonna need every ammo possible lmfao

[feral geyser]

I have pics somewhere back of my factory

[frozen shoal]

lol. love lotrs. also, no I don't play on a dedicated even though I thought about setting one up on my vps for shits n giggles and to always have it running.

[versed mesa]

Yeah i could but I warnt whike on my mission over the mountains to get to Bauxite depot to start mining it so looks like another farm is needed now lol

[feral geyser]

We're in the middle of a marathon right now, cuz Bilbo's birthday was this past monday

[feral geyser]

#screenshots message

[versed mesa]

Thats what am about todo now

[versed mesa]

Woah very cool

[feral geyser]

20/min of each rebar
10/min of basic Nobelisk
5/min of each other type (except nuke, storage tank for wood for gases)
275/min rifle ammo
250/min turbo ammo
25/min homing ammo
3.75/min each of gas and iodine filters.

All in one building.

[cunning siren]

If you make a room of ultimate invincibility where you can shoot out and they can not get in... 🤷 don't need medical supply's... only ammo

[feral geyser]

Battle bunker

[cunning siren]

Battle of the Alamo

[versed mesa]

Lol

This mission helps with locating loot also

So i colkect as much as possible

[cunning siren]

I love how many things have Turbo in the name

TURBO B A S S

[versed mesa]

And upload them to the cloud

[feral geyser]

Like that Nicki Minaj song

What's it called... Superb Ass?

[untold moat]

Yes. (sorry for the late reply, was at work)

[cunning siren]

The snap points in the "middle" of lifts seems to be buggy AF

[feral geyser]

They snap to half meter heights, it's kinda annoying

[cunning siren]

AND sometimes not at all

[feral geyser]

And you can't lock and nudge them up or down, cuz then they forget they are attached to lifts.

[cunning siren]

Designing stuff is fun in this game though

[ivory condor]

As long as it doesn't involve mk2 pipes

[shy mulch]

I've had in the back of my mind for a while to do something similar. Those numbers seem kinda overkill though haha. There's no way you're even using 10% of that 😂

[swift turret]

blueprints

ez

[feral geyser]

No, i'm not, but anything less than that seemed a waste. Plus, overflow sinks, so 🤷‍♂️

I almost never use pulses except if I'm feeling super squirrely lmao

And rebar 🙄 who needs it? (Not me, i like my rifle)

But if didn't supply everything, I'd be sleeping

[ivory condor]

well you see i made some blueprints based on assumptions about how pipes work, that was all totally wrong btw

such as those ones blueprints that assumed a regular pipe manifold would be able to output 600m3 out of it, that assumption however didn't end well

aka i really hate designing blueprints with mk2 pipes, because i often forget my basic assumptions are infact false

[feral geyser]

🤔

[ivory condor]

well its not like the game tells you it wouldn't work, thats the fun part you have to learn the hard way later that none of it infact works even close to correctly

[feral geyser]

I literally cannot fathom why so many people have trouble with pipes. There's only a few unintuitive things about them, and you can avoid them 99% of the time cuz they are weird things like vertical junctions in a specific rotation.

(It took me way longer than I care to admit to spell unintuitive)

[shy mulch]

I may be wrong, because I've never looked at the game code, and others have. But my intuition tells me that the 600 limit includes both directions, so when the liquid is sloshing you might have some small amount going backwards at the same time, so say you have 20 going back, that means you only get to have 580 going forward. So if you can avoid sloshing then you can get full 600. This is why I always build my pipe manifolds in a loop rather than a straight line, and I never seem to have any issues

[ivory condor]

idk maybe you havent designed the same systems those of us that have trouble have encountered, as i said even mk2 pipe manifold on a basic assumption stand point don't work how one would naturally expect them to

[cunning siren]

I don't know why but I go way overboard for expendables like ammo 🤔 silly really, does it even need automation besides a hand fed box with a depot?

[feral geyser]

Yes

For fun

It's a good project.

[cunning siren]

Slooping turbo ammo is fun to watch it spew out of the manufacture at 750 /min

[ivory condor]

right and i have found the loop for manifolds always works, but as i said you have to learn that lesson the hard way, because you can easily assume a regular mk2 pipe manifold should work fine, only to realize, yeah that isnt happening

[feral geyser]

I haven't had an issue that wasn't directly related to supply/demand.

Also, any machine that is consuming fluids should be below the pipes feeding it, that helps majorly.

[ivory condor]

interesting, because i have even had blenders backup with liquid on a system designed for 600m3, this is a none looped manifold btw, i suspect as others have side this is a side effect of sloshing, thats causing it, which is annoying because you have to make a loop to actually get it all to work

not that its the worst thing granted, i just never really liked how i would assume it should work, but i guess my brain is just stuck in that wrong assumption mode

[feral geyser]

What process for your blenders?

[ivory condor]

aka i just need to embrace the pipe loops, become one with them

[ivory condor]

these specific ones output rocket fuel, i make a mistake of designing a regular manifold with them and then took a moment to realize why my blenders couldnt even output all of the rocket fuel, because all of those pipes i put down needed loops on them

[bronze oriole]

Mk 2 pipes are oh I get 600 p minute from 2 x 300 375 is a good flow rate

[ivory condor]

so i had fun with that, putting loops on all of them after i did it, joys of mk2 pipes

[bronze oriole]

I need 600

[feral geyser]

Hmmm....

[ivory condor]

yeah i thought because the mk2 pipes were 600m3 and the blenders output 600m3, a regular manifold shouldnt have a problem right, game says enjoy watching your blenders backup with rocket fuel because mk2 pipes are fun

[bronze oriole]

I have 1333.333 rocket fuel in 8 pipes and the game somehow is not able to fill the 40 generators in each pipe evenly

Even when I turn them of to fully fill them first it eventually runs dry

[shy mulch]

Try making one of the pipes a loop and wait a while, see if it fixes it. Just run a long pipe from the last junction back into the first junction

[feral geyser]

That is usually the problem with manifold, pipe or belt. If they are getting exact in/out, they seem to run dry eventually, even if the math says they shouldn't.

[bronze oriole]

I just removed 1 generator in every row and called it a day because I got depressed making phase 4 space elevator factories

[feral geyser]

So i just over-saturate everything.

[bronze oriole]

I did that

All of them were full +1 storage with 2'5k

Maybe my math is wrong but 600 oil is 320 generators with turbo

Rocket

[versed mesa]

Radiation monsters are a pain in my ass lmao

[bronze oriole]

There is only 1 and u can just shoot them from above :)
Green cats are funny tho

[versed mesa]

Lol

Theres crash sites and there many of the big monsters there they keep killing me

[bronze oriole]

Just build a ramp let them run up and break the ramp and watch them spin

[versed mesa]

I had switch to the stunning rebar

[versed mesa]

Really lol

[cursive phoenix]

Feet??

[bronze oriole]

They won't die but they won't bother you either

[versed mesa]

Lol

[feral geyser]

Forward Exploration & Examination Team 🫡 at your service.

F.E.E.T. on the ground (and in the sky, fuel willing)

[shy mulch]

Just nuke everything

[feral geyser]

As a rule, i only nuke alpha stingers and nuclear hogs.

And even then, I have a bad experience of a stinger setting off my nuke midair and killing us both

[shy mulch]

I typically use regular rifle on hatchers because it's satisfying to me to hit them the exact number of shots to kill them before they start hatching. Everything else just gets nuked to oblivion

[feral geyser]

I just throw a gas nob at them and pop em, then I don't have to worry about them hatching.

I went through all the time and trouble to make 2 nukes/min and I barely use them 😑

[shy mulch]

You should use them more, they are fun!
Many months ago I manually fed a slooped manufacturer and ended up with 2 ISC full of nuke nobelisks. I'm like 1/4 of the way through them. I'll properly automate at some point but no rush haha

[feral geyser]

That's a lot lol. That will last a while

[shy mulch]

Yep that's the idea 😄

[feral geyser]

Fun though? Like I said, I was midair near the waterfall in the swamp, a stinger jumped at me at the same time as I threw one, and my body ended up in the ocean.

[shy mulch]

That does sound entertaining tbf

[feral geyser]

... I guess it was kinda fun though 😏

This was not long after I had beat the game and turned off death crates, at least

[shy mulch]

Death crates keeps me on my toes. Especially in the caterium cave, holy moly 😄

[feral geyser]

I'm not sure which cave that is 😶

[shy mulch]

there's a cave with a large enterance at the north west corner of the swamp with 3 caterium nodes in it and.... spiders, many spiders

[feral geyser]

Oh oh oh, yes, I've seen those on the map.

[shy mulch]

big spiders 😄

green meanies

[feral geyser]

It's too bad creatures despawn* at too far a distance from their spawn point, I'd make a zoo

[shy mulch]

haha yeah. I made a glass box around 2 green spiders in the middle of the swamp, they've been there for a long time, might expand the box at some point and make it into an exhibit piece haha

[feral geyser]

I'm gonna make a power slug roller coaster

[shy mulch]

Oooh cool thought. I was gonna do one that just went round like a loop, but making it an interesting shape would be pretty awesome

[feral geyser]

And yeah, you can mimic an actual one by doing different belt speeds. Slow climbs, fast dips, etc

[shy mulch]

I actually have a slightly different thought for my slug belt! It's hard to explain, and might end up looking stupid, but I'll try it

Basically my megafactory is laid out like a mini new york, there's buildings in blocks, and a central park in the middle. It's a long way from being finished, but I was thinking of having a "sky train" belt that goes around above all the streets, with alternating coloured slugs. It might end up looking shit though, I dunno. Will see once I get to that point

[feral geyser]

Oooh, sounds interesting

I'm off to bed, but if you do build it, I wanna see.

[peak wasp]

After not so much stress testing

I can not do a central mega factory where everything goes.

[reef basin]

yeah megafactories are generally not recommended

[silk ocean]

Microfactories so hot right now

[dense violet]

Unless it’s a fairly small mega factory or you have a decent computer? Yeah can be tough

[shy mulch]

I went kinda half and half. I have a lot of modular factories making low tier stuff which gets scooped up on a train and sent to my "main" factory. There's 21k items per minute entering the main factory, and a little over 300 machines, so it's still pretty chunky but not sure it qualifies as a "megafactory"

I have a "ingot processing plant" in the far north east coast, where raw ores get fed in and I use the water to make ingots which go off to the modular factories for further processing. I realised that processing plant is actually bigger than the main factory lol

[versed mesa]

Ive found a pure Bauxite deposit so am going to use this spot and creat factory there but theres big monsters in the way Rip

[boreal musk]

building mega factories help me to learn organized build really fast

[versed mesa]

What the best way todo a round factory ?

[shy mulch]

Create the foundations first, in the shape you want

[wooden mural]

how do u get the rgb helmet?

[flint grail]

#screenshots message Anyone smart enough to know if I'll be able to connect?

[shy mulch]

connect what?

[flint grail]

To the station

[shy mulch]

oh the rails, I don't see why not, rails can go anywhere, just whether or not it looks nice is your subjectiveness

if you find the gradient too much, either start the slope further back, or do a loop

[boreal musk]

they are available in the hub

[silk ocean]

You can always do inclines like #screenshots xD

Just not like my poor design skills 😄

[versed mesa]

Is that it

Wish there was glass floors

[heavy snow]

hey peeps what stuff should i absolutly buy from the awesome shop?

[silk ocean]

Awesomeshop is mostly cosmetic, build items, etc

Basically anything you like the look of

[heavy snow]

oh

well is there anything that are like used the most to make things look good?

[silk ocean]

To answer that you'll have to consult a pioneer that has design skills greater than an amoeba xD

Some things are useful - Management section

Management, Foundations, Architecture sections

I guess they are the more practical sections for building but really they are also to make things look nice/cool/etc more than essential

[shy mulch]

There is nothing "essential" in the awesome shop. Everything there is either cosmetic or time saving. The game can be completed without buying anything

So just browse it and buy things you like, that fit your style of play

[silk ocean]

Yea that spiral is cool @shy mulch I have a similar one but yours is way better xD

[boreal musk]

power wall knobs and floor hole are always my go to

and then ladder, catwalk and beams from architecture

[shy mulch]

Now I'm curious to see your effort. I watched a youtube video ages ago about spiral rails and thought they looked funky, and the process was super easy to follow, so I just do that whenever I get the opportunity!

[silk ocean]

I'll go to it XD Yea I probably should have watched a YT vid.. I sorta just rushed mine

[vestal hill]

Interesting… what would the purpose of doing this be? (Just tryna understand lol)

[versed mesa]

Has anyone been able to create round buildings using controller by any chance ?

[shy mulch]

I've never played with a controller, but can't see why it would make a difference, you don't have the same control options? Surely you can rotate, snap, nudge?

[versed mesa]

Yeah i can do that

[shy mulch]

@silk ocean that spiral is straight out of alice in wonderland 😄

[silk ocean]

lol

[versed mesa]

Am currently trying to work on it

[limpid cairn]

It’s probably way more difficult to do it fast

[shy mulch]

then don't do it fast 😄

[versed mesa]

Fir this Bauxite Deposit i am thinking to make circle factory

A big one if I can

[shy mulch]

Just make a massive circle foundation, then build it up from there

[versed mesa]

Ill try my best 👌

Theres also alot of Geyser here so is win win for power

[limpid cairn]

[versed mesa]

Why not lol

[boreal musk]

or just bp the curve, as simple as that

[limpid cairn]

Are you planning to only use the geysir power ?

[limpid cairn]

Why try to make the game shorter when you can spend 5h more ?

[versed mesa]

I want to try it atleast

[native tapir]

Anyone down to help us crash our server today?

We are hosting a massive multiplayer tower race and we need to try to crash the server to see how many we will need running to host everything on the big day.

You just tell us how many people are on concurrently and report back on performance. We have the tech wizards doing magic with metrics on our end

[versed mesa]

@shy mulch yeah am trying but I dont seam to be having any luck

[native tapir]

It's a factory cart race lol. User made levels

[limpid cairn]

@unkempt blade 🤔

[limpid cairn]

Is goal to crash the server or just stress test the server ?

[native tapir]

Stress test. But crash is a catchier pitch isn't it? Lol

We don't want blueprint spam but we do want a bunch of people screwing around

To clarify we aren't posting the tower yet. This is a world with global rail and nuclear just to make sure we are using a "worst case" map

[shy mulch]

What part are you having difficulty with

[versed mesa]

Floor foundation

Am trying todo it with walls

[shy mulch]

The walls will snap to the foundations. Use the foundations to make the shape, delete them later if you don't want them

[versed mesa]

Ive stop using foundation for now just trying to make circle with walls

[shy mulch]

Why are you doing it the hard way

[versed mesa]

Am trying to make circle around the miner to start with

[versed mesa]

Yeah thats how i would like it

[shy mulch]

Trust me, make foundations to make the shape you want, then snap walls to the foundations, then you can delete the foundations afterwards if you don't want them

[versed mesa]

Witch foundation ?

[sullen gull]

Foundations and catwalks for 'easy' circles.

[shy mulch]

any foundation

[versed mesa]

I dont think ive got a catwalk

[sullen gull]

Coupons are your friend

[shy mulch]

Do you have foundations?

[versed mesa]

Ive been using the coupons lol

[versed mesa]

Yeah

[shy mulch]

practice making a circle with foundations, doesn't need to be near a node or whatever, just find an open area with plenty space to practice getting the shapes right

[versed mesa]

I just can't see to see them making a circle when I lay them down

[shy mulch]

I can explain the easiest process

[versed mesa]

@shy mulch maybe with keyboard and mouse it allows todo it way better than controller

[sullen gull]

#design-and-architecture message

[shy mulch]

1. Place 1 foundation where you want the middle of the circle, nudge it down so it is a bit lower than you need
2. Position 1 foundation directly ABOVE the one you placed, turn it 1 click (5 degrees) then zoop it out in that direction, then delete all the foundations in the zoop except the last one furthest away from you
3. Repeat step 2 for every position, until you go round a full circle
4. Now delete the centre foundation

[limpid cairn]

Couldn’t have explained it better

[shy mulch]

Actually you could, cos following my exact instruction will make it 1 foundation too small to be perfect, need to place the foundation once rotated into the right position above the centre point, then zoop out 10 from that, so the circle ends up 21 foundations in diameter

[limpid cairn]

[shy mulch]

That's a really good video, explains it well, wish I'd seen that before I started trying to do circles haha
One thing it should note that you can do smaller circles by rotating the centre one by 2 or 3 clicks instead of just 1 each time, then zoop out 7 or 4 foundations (I think?)

[crystal siren]

What the hell, you can't connect two vertical splitters placed via blueprint with a lift? I gotta rebuild them all

[sullen gull]

I honestly just did "in: #design-and-architecture has: video circles" in the discord search.

[shy mulch]

Vertical splitters/mergers are quite new and I think there's a lot of room for improvement in how they work. I'd expect if/when we get a 1.2, this would be something they'd be improving (fingers crossed)

[versed mesa]

@shy mulch i think ive figure it out when placing foundation down while on top on the floor is put another there but I can move it slower than when its at the side of one then I put one at bottom but making sure to look underneath fir turning it around and ive also got to make sure its inline and its takes time for straightness

Dies this sound correct to you ?

[shy mulch]

I'm not getting the exact specifics of what you're doing because your message is quite confusing, but in general it seems about right. Honestly watch the video that was linked above, that'll help you more than lists of instructions, it's short and very clear

[versed mesa]

I looked it it let me look again and yes thats me confusing when I type lol

@shy mulch yeah I am sure doing it king of right am going to test with small square floors a minute

[zenith pecan]

I reported so many vertical splitter issues during the experimental release 😢 they still are a pain to line up, and reconnecting them doesnt work 😞

[limpid cairn]

Time to @ Jason and give him so more work

[zenith pecan]

One huge fix would be to halve the size of the snaps when applied to the lifts, even if nothing else was done, it would be of immense help.

[limpid cairn]

@obsidian zodiac 🤔

[zenith pecan]

The connecting to the top or bottom of the verticals could be a pain because they don't seem to hold on to a direction themselves, so when part of a lift is deleted, the whole assembly gets ki d of mullered.

[shy mulch]

Yeah, or just let us nudge them up and down 0.5m

[obsidian zodiac]

lemme make a note and ill mention it to the prog team 🙂

[zenith pecan]

That offset is why I only have two working slender towers on the map, too much trouble.

[shy mulch]

I have a lot, and I'm scared to touch them, cos any change means basically deleting and rebuilding from scratch

[zenith pecan]

Cool, just let us line the splitters up is the only real ask 🫡 we can do the rest.

[obsidian zodiac]

would you or anyone have a visual example i can share as well?

[zenith pecan]

Thats why only the two towers 😵‍💫 they took me five hours to make work.

[obsidian zodiac]

ive been meaning to harass the programmers again

[limpid cairn]

Why aren’t you a part of the programmers?🤔

[true mulch]

Are the persistent problems with train signals (introduced in 1.1) known by the team?
many a post in #1038092680493801533 due to this

[shy mulch]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1420378737693950085

[zenith pecan]

I'm at work atm, there should be a video clip of a prototype tower in the experimental chat showing the crooked splitters, searching it on mobile discord is a pain, I wont be home for a few hours.

[obsidian zodiac]

because my code is the equivalent of a toddler's pre-nap doodling

[limpid cairn]

I recommend sending an application to any AAA game studio, high chance of getting accepted with your experience I’ve heard

[zenith pecan]

I think I got it #satisfactory-experimental message , shows the crooked splitters and mergers, their snaps are too far apart, so they line too high or too low

[obsidian zodiac]

saved this one as well, thank you kindloy

[obsidian zodiac]

should be, but ill dig a bit and bring it up when folks are back from unreal fest

[midnight ocean]

are you the customer relations person now then?

oh yeah just seen the community manager tag

[obsidian zodiac]

yeah im a community manager alongside Mikael, though he is on vacation. were here to help yall with any issues, listen to feedback, stream, and make update/game related videos for our YT channel. i also make stupid shorts when i have time

[cyan lynx]

If there was ever neded a face palm meme its now

[midnight ocean]

are you also the one in charge of the tiktok account?

[lavish lance]

stupid shorts are the best ones

[slender quest]

Oh hello!

[shy mulch]

I generally go the other way, sensible shorts and stupid tshirts

[obsidian zodiac]

imagining the zelda shirt and cargo short iconic combo now

[shy mulch]

perfection

[cyan lynx]

I got a t shirt with a raccoon saying live fast eat trash

[obsidian zodiac]

im actually working on a video atm that goes over some of the sound systems in the game rn, really excited to put that out

[shy mulch]

I was so close to buying that, I know exactly the one you mean

I have a shirt that has trump, putin and kim jong un on it
Someone legit tried to buy it off me while I was wearing it

(it's designed ironically)

[native tapir]

He's also been putting up with me

Some of you might know how big of an ask that is for someone's first little bit on a new job.

Jason is THE MAN. He has handled a lot of nonsense like an absolute champ.

[cyan lynx]

Well its a case of handle it or go cry in the corner like a little girl that got punched in the ovaries

[shy mulch]

or boy

[obsidian zodiac]

crazy simile but yeah if it was too much swedish labor law is pretty strict, theyd probably send doug a strongly worded letter

[cyan lynx]

🤣 its ok i was in the army , i feel your pain

[midnight ocean]

is it possible to get my jetpack to use fuel as a priority rather than biomas

since i want my biomass reserved for the chainsaw

[hard ivy]

press the gear icon on the jetpack

also, fuel is garbage for the jetpack. use packaged liquid biofuel

[midnight ocean]

how do i get liquid biofuel?

[hard ivy]

if you have packaged fuel, you can get liquid biofuel

[boreal musk]

tier 5 packager milestone

[hard ivy]

check the codex or the wiki

[midnight ocean]

oh i hadnt seen that recipe so i might set up a line for that then

[shy mulch]

I still haven't got round to trying LBF, I should really give it a try, everyone seems to reccomend it

[midnight ocean]

is it possible to fully automate it or do i still need to gather the biofuel myself?

[hard ivy]

no, biofuel is not fully automatable

but with sloops, 1 creature remains can become 533 packaged liquid biofuel so it's not an issue lol

[honest oxide]

Hey everyone, having some problems with a fluid manifold (#screenshots message) last generator isn't getting a lot of fuel... what am i doing wrong?

[midnight ocean]

sloops?

[hard ivy]

somersloops

[midnight ocean]

ohhh yeah im not quite at that point yet

[hard ivy]

unlock the production amplifier in the MAM and you get double out of each step

[midnight ocean]

yeah i know i just cant make the stuff needed to research that yet

[boreal musk]

despite its comically low vertical thrust, its one of the longest flight time

[bright helm]

Why did just my blender stop working?

[boreal musk]

you should try it

[shy mulch]

Usually a blocked output

[boreal musk]

what blender?

irl blender, blender app, or satisfactory's blender

[hard ivy]

missing output, blocked output or the hoverpack glitch

[bright helm]

Propably hoverpack glitch. How does this glitch work?

[hard ivy]

when the hoverpack switches connection between poles connected to 2 different sides of a power switch, machines connected to the switch idle for a few seconds

[bright helm]

few seconds? Its only the blender that is idle since 5 minutes I think

[shy mulch]

why would you connect a pole to both sides of a power switch? doesn't that just remove the point of the switch?

[shy mulch]

I'm still voting for blocked output. Share a pic of the detail

[hard ivy]

no, when it switches between a pole connected to side A and a pole connected to side B

[shy mulch]

Ah that makes more sense

[bright helm]

#screenshots message

[shy mulch]

That's just a pic of the blender lol. Need to see the detail. Go up to it and press E

[bright helm]

oh sorry

[shy mulch]

I'm guessing the water is full in the output

[bright helm]

Rn I am not able to send the screenshot. I will send it a few hours later

[boreal musk]

power switch has 2 knobs, A knobs is the main one where you connect your main grid, the B knobs is the isolated grid that you can turn on and off without screwing the main line

[shy mulch]

Not sure if intentional, but looks like you've made a VIP junction back to front. Your water incoming from the right will get priority over the feedback water, so your output water will never drain

[hard ivy]

blenders pause for exactly 5 seconds when this bug happens. (so does the vast majority of other machines)

and converters and constructors are apparently immune?

why would those two have 0 minimum idle time when everything else has 5 seconds?

[true mulch]

different machines have different idle times

afaik smelters also have 0

not sure if it's either 0 or 5, could've sworn it varies

[versed mesa]

@shy mulch hi mate when you made your circles with foundation did they all kind of not line up ive got ocd something not looking right lol

Are there any blueprint circles out there ?

[hard ivy]

went through the docs, only constructor and converter have 0. and only U-jelly landing pad has anything other than 0 or 5 (it has 0.25)

[shy mulch]

it's never going to be perfect, but you have to go up pretty close to see the gaps/overlaps

[true mulch]

how is the value called?

[versed mesa]

What about the top edges

[hard ivy]

"mMinimumStoppedTime"

[true mulch]

that can't be right

or it behaves differently to loss of power and blocked I/O

smelters start instantly when fed resources, but refineries don't

[boreal musk]

if you want to do perfect circle, you need to start from the middle, and zoop from the center every 5° increment

so many guides regarding this in yt, easy to find

[hard ivy]

I mean they might but when you put them to standby, wait for the display to show idle, and turn them back on, they take 5 seconds to start running agian

the constructor starts instantly when the switch is turned off

they both start instantly if the switch is turned back on before the display shows idle, though

[versed mesa]

Yeah i think ive got it but ive got pointed corners sticking out like ill share pic in a moment

[hard ivy]

so I guess that makes constructors and converters basically immune to the hoverpack bug lol

no clue why it's those 2

[sharp sentinel]

Before I make a 1-3km long pipe... Gas doesn't experience any issues with pipes, right?

[true mulch]

yeah, that's the only plausible explanation

[true mulch]

how much per min?

as long as the pipe isn't maxed out, you should be fine

[hard ivy]

I've maxed out nitrogen multiple times without issues

[sharp sentinel]

Just whatever I get off one extractor. I'm tired of having to refuel the drone that brings bottled nitrogen to this one factory.

So if I just flat out remove the entire need for it I can save on fuel, and bottles.

[versed mesa]

@boreal musk @shy mulch like this #screenshots message

[shy mulch]

yeah that doesn't look right

[versed mesa]

Thats what I mean i dont like it

[boreal musk]

you mustve done something wrong

i did curve so many times and i never got that problem

[versed mesa]

I think am doing it right

[green fiber]

Machines have seperate values that affect this

There is the minimum stopping time which becomes active if the machine has remained still for the time defined by another variable. Something like MinimimProducingTime

[boreal musk]

if youre doing it right, this wont happen

[shy mulch]

how many foundations did you zoop out from the centre

[versed mesa]

3

[shy mulch]

that's why then

[versed mesa]

Really

[boreal musk]

why only 3? thats very small

if you want to do the better one, do 12 zoop length

[shy mulch]

I thought 11 is best?

place 1 in the centre at the angle you want, then zoop out 10 from there

[boreal musk]

12 is the max before it becomes noticeable at 13rd

[hard ivy]

yeah, the constructor and converter have 0 on both, everything else has 2 for production and 5 for stopping

[versed mesa]

Ok let me try again

[green fiber]

2 means that after idling, machines will run without interruption (they can stall if they miss inputs, but will spring back into action immediately in that time )for i think 2 seconds before they can idle again for 5 Seconds

At least if i read the header files right

[hard ivy]

sounds about right. the smelter took a while to switch to idle even when I turned it off. prolly because 2 seconds haven't yet passed since it turned back on

[lament niche]

gib bluetooth speakers that can connect to our boomboxes

[latent meadow]

of couse i leave it running all night ot buidl up for my elevator

and my stupid iron rod break half way though the night

😐

[hard ivy]

I feel like if you built a single handfed machine per item, you would be done by now lol

[vocal wolf]

helo chat

[outer hatch]

So in the end, there's always one HD reward that goes unclaimed, right? (The unpicked one of the last pair of rewards)

[outer hatch]

Hello!

[vocal wolf]

hi

[obsidian zodiac]

whats up gamer

[vestal hill]

I was hand crafting wires when I realized I have a full storage box of em

[plush dawn]

corndog

[vocal wolf]

wahts up mr community managere

[vestal hill]

wasup

[vocal wolf]

i wonder why we cant xoop in both x and y axis

[vestal hill]

we can

vertical zooping is the next setting

[vocal wolf]

stimutaineously

[vestal hill]

idk

[feral geyser]

Get Infinite Zoop mod, it allows you to extend zoop range and zoop in 2d

[versed mesa]

Yeah i am giving up trying to build a circle its doing my head in

[versed mesa]

Does this also help with making circles lol

[feral geyser]

Curve Builder does

[versed mesa]

Is that a Mod ?

[feral geyser]

Yes

Delete this

[versed mesa]

Where can I get it from please ?

[feral geyser]

I don't remember the link for it, but you have to download the mod manager and install

[rustic hare]

is talking about piracy even appropriate in this server? (the message I was replying to got deleted)

[vocal wolf]

how many charges have i got left untill i get the electric chair

[feral geyser]

None, I'm walking you there now

[shy mulch]

if you want to pirate stuff, pirate megacorps like netflix, don't punish companies like CSS. if you can't afford the game work a bit harder

[versed mesa]

So mod talk not allow in here then ?

[rustic hare]

read #rules, they encourage modding, not piracy, they are not the same thing

[feral geyser]

I've never wanted to kick a lizard doggo before, but piracy is no good

[versed mesa]

So modding is fine then what you going on about then lol

[vocal wolf]

i live in asia, and my parents wont buy me games, im 14 so no banking accounts or stuff

once i get money i WILL buy the game, but for now i cant

[mortal ginkgo]

I love humanity. Pirating from one company can be good while other one can be bad at the same time.

We truly live in a society.

[rustic hare]

bias go brbr

[feral geyser]

Hey, it's true though

[mortal ginkgo]

I am just tired, boss.

[feral geyser]

Asia is a huge swath of land, we need your exact address so we can direct the authorities

[rustic hare]

piracy, but hey, if the person who pirates the game isn't insisting it's correct, we aren't pushing either

[feral geyser]

(/s)

[mortal ginkgo]

Can you... stop?

[shy mulch]

I earned my own money at 14. Is that not possible for you?

[mortal ginkgo]

Saying /s ain't making it any better.

[vocal wolf]

ok yes, mowing lawns, doing work

[frank iron]

it's too early for this lol

[versed mesa]

Omg be quiet lol

[mortal ginkgo]

And here I thought I was weird. God damn it beotherman.

[obsidian zodiac]

alright alright #off-topic-general folks

[vocal wolf]

but here in asia no random guy is gonna hire a random kid to clean their house or mow their garden

[versed mesa]

Is Modding off topic i so confused right now ?

[feral geyser]

No, that's very on topic

[versed mesa]

Then wtf is that person on about then

[feral geyser]

We were off topic talking about piracy and razzing Lizard Doggo

[unkempt blade]

you just need a fake beard or a grey wig or something and you're good to go

[versed mesa]

Alright then

[feral geyser]

Also Jason is a CSS guy, have respect 😑 lol

[latent meadow]

does the vechiles stops not full unload there cargo to the truck or at least as much as the truch or tractor can hold if it has that much ?

[rustic hare]

Asian fellow here, the culture has very strong opinions about age, so I understand your situation, but you really shouldn't talk about piracy of the game here because it isn't appropriate, and goes against server rules, I see you already know that your action is not morally correct, that's good

[mortal ginkgo]

there needs to be enough time for loading/unloading to occur. I think for trucks it can be around 14 seconds for full inventory

[unkempt blade]

1s per 2 item slots I think but the actual animation is longer than that - I remember this because factory carts 😆

[vocal wolf]

kk

[vestal hill]

do factyory carts have an inventory at all?

[unkempt blade]

yes, 1 slot

[vestal hill]

why would you use factory carts

[vocal wolf]

uranium looks like baja blast tbh

[vestal hill]

instead of something like an explorer

[unkempt blade]

because they're adorable and they move stuff good

[hard ivy]

some people are insane 🤷‍♂️

[vestal hill]

on my other playthrough I put one at the bottom of my base for fun

[mortal ginkgo]

they dont ask for fuel to operate so you can use them for transferring very smol amount of stuff if you really want to.

they are also cute and adorable

[vestal hill]

ohh ok

[cunning glade]

Minion's tonight we steal the moon (automate phase 3)

I'm excited

[vestal hill]

oooh tonight I'm starting phase two

[unkempt blade]

Factory carts actually do pretty well if you're not moving something with an extremely small stack size but that's true for most vehicles. You just add more to the route until they need to queue up briefly

[cunning glade]

After building everything so it can be trained in I only need too build circuit boards and motors

[obsidian zodiac]

i have a factory where instead of conveyer belts i use tractor stations. i think i had like 12 separate tractors weaving around eachother. it was awesome

[vestal hill]

yeah I think it'd actuallly be really fun to do something like that

[cunning glade]

Which if I can figure out numbers I can use ore from the main factory and I don't need any new stuff

[latent meadow]

i feel like the factory car is more of sometihng you use in big bases to just get around pretty uch

[vestal hill]

I might do that on this playthrough

[vocal wolf]

unrelated but i think tractors are literally the analouge of those food delivery bot things

[feral geyser]

They also have a fuel slot too, right? It's just invisible?

[obsidian zodiac]

its really funny and makes you feel like a ranch owner

[vestal hill]

lmao I can imagine how great it would be to just watch them zoom around

[cunning glade]

Chat question

[unkempt blade]

In at least most cases I think conveyors are "better" if you just want something cheap that always does that you expect. But since it's kind of a build your own challenge game I like vehicles because they make the factory feel a lot more alive

[vestal hill]

Chat answer

[cunning glade]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/planners/production/index/json/{"Desc_ModularFrameHeavy_C"%3A"16.85"%2C"altRecipes"%3A["Recipe_Alternate_ModularFrameHeavy_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_BoltedFrame_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_ReinforcedIronPlate_1_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_Screw_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_Computer_1_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_CoatedCable_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_Quickwire_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_SteelPipe_Molded_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_IngotSteel_1_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_WetConcrete_C"%2C"Recipe_ResidualFuel_C"%2C"Recipe_ResidualPlastic_C"%2C"Recipe_ResidualRubber_C"]} with tier 4 belts this would take a second too fill up so a manifold works properly yes?

[hard ivy]

ew not this garbage calculator

do yourself a favor and use SFTools

[cunning glade]

Yeah yeah I'm gonna move from it

I only used it this one build tbh it worked well

[unkempt blade]

I'm actually not sure, I know they don't need fuel to operate

[vestal hill]

yeahh I did think about that. I do prefer the sattelite playstyle so I might just have sattelites and then the tractors or whatever running between instead of noodles

[frank iron]

satisfactory modler is supreme if you haven't tried it

[cunning glade]

I have

Just don't see the use at that point why not build in game

[hard ivy]

and why would you use the bolted recipes lmao

[cunning glade]

Idk I can try it again

I imported alts that's what it selected I don't mind it

Anyways I get the planner is bad

[feral geyser]

Bolted are nice for their throughput rate, not their conversion ratio

[frank iron]

the modler is just nice imo cuz doing it in came is hard to see the overall layout, especially with bigger builds. Wheras the modler is super easy. And if you have last minute changes fixes, you aren't tearing a bunch of stuff down in game

[cunning glade]

I like the factory

[feral geyser]

They're like twice as fast as the others

[cunning glade]

I just need it too saturate

[feral geyser]

Which means half as many assemblers

[cunning glade]

Which will take a min but theoretically I did it right

I only have 480 belts

[hard ivy]

they aren't even good for that because you need way more machines for the ingredients, eliminating all possible space savings

[cunning glade]

But tonight I make motors and circuit boards I can train everything else in

[feral geyser]

Hardly, its a few extra screws

[cunning glade]

And phase 3 is automated

[feral geyser]

Which again, steel screws are so ez pz and take nothing extra

[cunning glade]

So many screws man

[feral geyser]

You're already making beams

[cunning glade]

2400

All of the screws

[unkempt blade]

I know! Isn't it wonderful? There are so many items moving around!

[cunning glade]

I do love it

With tier 5 belts it'll look nicer

[hard ivy]

compared to stitched plate and steeled frame? it's a lot more, unless you use steel screws. and then it's about the same size but more expensive. I have not found a single recipe combination that makes the bolted recipes worth using

[feral geyser]

Watching screws and wire on belts is so satisfying

[cunning glade]

IDC if it was alot of work I loved making the hmf factory

And now I'll prolly never need them again

[hard ivy]

me with 20 belts of QW in my nuke plant lmao

[feral geyser]

That is a fun one, plus the output can go to FMFs next

[cunning glade]

Whatever that is I don't wanna know btw please

First playthrough still

[feral geyser]

Friday Morning Funkin'

[cunning glade]

Trying too keep it spoiler free

As much as possible the less overwhelmed i get

I can't wait too go home

I'm stuck at work for the next 9 hours

And all I need for phase 3 is 5 circuit boards a min and 10 motors a min and I have everything else too be trained in for phase 3 stuff

[unkempt blade]

same, that's why I'm automating factory carts while zoom happens

[cunning glade]

I think for the motors I up my steel factory product upgrade the what's the first car u get

Whatever that's called too a truck

[unkempt blade]

tractor then truck

[cunning glade]

And then make motors at the starting factory and circuit boards after blowing up the caterium node near base

[cunning glade]

Tractors yeah that

[midnight ocean]

what is the fastest upload rate for the dimensional depot?

[vocal wolf]

where do flushed fluids go

do they just dissapear out of existence

[unkempt blade]

240/min per uploader

[midnight ocean]

ah thanks

wanted to check if i needed anything past conveyors mk3

[cunning glade]

They flush down the pipe?

[feral geyser]

They build in the corner of the map and cause pollution

Jk, no, they just disappear.

[vocal wolf]

but that way the end of the pipe would have to be full

[strange trout]

just i dont know how to design well 😭

and now i just dont wanna play the game coz everything is too disorganized

and ugly

[feral geyser]

That's always how it starts

[cunning glade]

They do just vanish?

[vocal wolf]

pipe/conveyor spaghetti is normal

just watch josh's videos

[strange trout]

i wounld say its spagetti its just all my factorys are all over the place 😭

[cunning glade]

It may be normal but it's wrong

[glad drum]

How many factory carts do you think I'll need to do an aluminum factory to the water craters area

(transporting the bauxite)

[vocal wolf]

shoulda moved when you unlocked foundations

[feral geyser]

Certain levels of spaghetti are wrong

[cunning glade]

Do trucks turn worse or anything

[vocal wolf]

conveyor spagetti is wrong is wrong, certain levels of spaghetti are wrong is right

gtg chat bye

[limpid cairn]

Rebuild everything

[glad drum]

Did you mention me --- you DID

[glad drum]

I like you - in fact, the more spaghetti, the more unique and cool you are

[ivory robin]

I just made 4 heavy modular frames per minute im taking a break

[lyric yoke]

Hi there hey there - I've read through the alternate recipe tier list, and I've got access to a couple of them on hard drives that I haven't picked the reward from.

Can someone tell me about Diluted Packaged Fuel? 1 heavy oil residue + 2 water = 2 packaged fuel. It's not on the list as exactly that string "Diluted Packaged Fuel" so I wanted to get your subjective take on it. Is this a reward worth picking?

(For context my small handful of trucks running around are using coal and they currently have no problem staying fueled)

[feral geyser]

Same thing, just uses packagers and refinery instead of blender

[reef basin]

any tier list is basically just personal preference of the author and shouldn't be followed directly

[green fiber]

The recipe is slightly slower and you gotta deal with canister loops

Thats the main difference

[lyric yoke]

brother I'm not even sure what a blender is. Does packaged fuel end up being a big deal? My current oil plant is basically inside that crater shaped lake, so it'd be easy enough to slap together the residue and water

[reef basin]

if built properly, it's basically equal

[mortal ginkgo]

Ultra Hot Take: Just wait for Blender to go full yolo rocket fuel.

[reef basin]

go nuclear and ignore blenders 😛

[shy mulch]

I'm ordering some chinese food, anyone want anything while I'm there?

[unkempt blade]

would depend on how much bauxite you're trying to move and how long the route is. Your unload time is going to be as low as possible because it's only 1 slot

[reef basin]

get me some udon

[shy mulch]

done!

[plush dawn]

i liked diluted packaged fuel as i just put sloops in the refineries temporarily and filled the entire line using only like 10 empty canisters input

[feral geyser]

Kung pao

[shy mulch]

man I'm gonna have to write these down

[unkempt blade]

not really sure, they're bigger so it might feel like that at least even if it's the same

[lyric yoke]

I'll have to investigate this whole sloops thing, like I think I read somewhere that they can uhhhh duplicate items or something

[plush dawn]

something like that yeah

[shy mulch]

add somersloops to a machine, it makes the machine output double without changing the input

[mortal ginkgo]

Yes. For some reason Tractors are amazing in many ways compared to Trucks as they are much smaller, easier to handle etc.

If you are truly in need of a Truck, you either need to go Trains or just use them very few where you ABSOLUTELY need them.

[shy mulch]

I've never found a situation where either a truck or a tractor would be useful to me. Belts, drones and trains cover all my use cases

[lyric yoke]

Wanna know how you pick up udon with chop sticks?

...

udon't, because them noodles is always slippery and thicc, better to just pour them directly into your input port

[native tapir]

Still looking for a ton of people to help us crash our server. Anyone interested?

We are the team hosting the factory cart climb competition by the way. Shaping up to be very big and very fun. I'll share the video again under #streams-and-videos

[mortal ginkgo]

Its fine to use tractors where one dont want a long line of belts

[native tapir]

We are trying to see how close we can get 128 concurrent players on our monster server....and then get more servers running

[unkempt blade]

it's a trade off like other stuff in the game, you're using resources as fuel but the power cost is much lower vs other vehicles

[mortal ginkgo]

most people forget that they spend fuel to power their trains too. I kek at them

[reef basin]

I'm barbaric and eat udon with fork

[unkempt blade]

yeah it gets abstracted through the power grid so it's a little less in your face

[shy mulch]

What if you have more power than you need

[glad drum]

It's good.

[lyric yoke]

The other hard drive I have access to will let me pick between

Rigor Motor (3 rotor + 3 stator + 1 crystal oscillator = 6 motors, 7.5/min)
or
Quickwire Stator (4 steel pipes + 15 quickwire = 2 stators, 8/min)

Do y'all have any specific feelings about these recipes?

[mortal ginkgo]

Hot Take but why dont we got electric powdered vehicles?

[glad drum]

I really like the recipe tier lists that one guy has on reddit because he has multiple for whichever use you're looking for. Whether to save time, power, or maximizing material.

[mortal ginkgo]

Also another hot take, why cant we use Carts to transfer fuel around Truck Stations and need an extra Truck Station just to send fuel to other Stations?

[unkempt blade]

I'd really like something like that even if it had a cap on route distance, would be nice for intrafactory vehicles

[glad drum]

Rigor Motor has never appealed to me because I don't tend to go down the Quartz MAM very quickly - if you do, it may be fun to use.

Quickwire Stator has also never appealed to me - I think I'd rather just use the wire and make Iron Wire or something.

[feral geyser]

Batteries 🤷‍♂️ 😂

[unkempt blade]

Yeah that would be nice. At the moment I have fuel delivery belts baked into my skyroad BP

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean yeah, Batteries really got thrown out of the window like an unwanted 96th child of a mafia family.

[real shale]

Why can't I use batteries to power my jetpack smh smh

[lyric yoke]

Yeah for real, like I know where some quartz is, but I kinda don't want to develop a whole nother pipeline if I don't need it

[mortal ginkgo]

Batteries could have a really good interesting work

[real shale]

I went through the effort to produce 250 batteries a minute only to find out they can't be used for jetpacks afterwards

And ended up making a drone swarm instead....

[feral geyser]

THAT makes sense, but why can't i use batteries for my Hoverpack?

[mortal ginkgo]

even for a "extra duration to be in flight without a power requirement" could go a long way for hoverpack

but then this could kinda replace jetpack...?

[unkempt blade]

the hoverpacks defining feature it being able to stay still in the air so I think there'd still be room for both

[feral geyser]

Actually, the Jetpack/hoverpack balance is pretty decent.

[mortal ginkgo]

brother I personally feel hoverpack could use some extra distance to be able to work

I mean, this game surely got "improve your life" research tab problem.

[real shale]

What life? You are property of FICSIT, you don't have a life

[feral geyser]

Fun fact: it's impossible to fly vertically out of the hoverpack's range (obviously)

[unkempt blade]

agreed, would be very useful for my larger builds. At the moment I have a BP that's just a big vertical beam with power connectors running up it 😆

[mortal ginkgo]

Deepest lore confirmed, my arguement is defeated by simple FACTS and REASONS.

[cunning glade]

Well I have what 8 foundries making steel that gets trucked too main base too make 5 or 10 versatile and then 5 automated a min

[glad drum]

Yeah it's the kind of choice I'd just leave (or rescan) because at least it eliminates 2 mediocre-at-best options from the hard drive pool

[mortal ginkgo]

Yeah, if the solution is "put flying power poles around to actually be able to fly", I would say "why not give us a research option?"

[cunning glade]

With needing motors too I'd need add more steal

[mortal ginkgo]

Tractors can easily handle that instead of Trucks imo

[cunning glade]

Idk if another tractor is a better idea or a truck

[unkempt blade]

could "balance" it by limiting what fuel it can use vs jetpack if they want to keep a distinction

[mortal ginkgo]

Another tractor could be good too if traffic is not an issue

[mortal ginkgo]

let it only use battery

[real shale]

No no no, let it use only nuclear fuel rods

[cunning glade]

It's only 1 tractor bring the steel rn

[real shale]

Tradeoff is you get 5 generations of radiation sickness using it

[cunning glade]

Can I use the same path and then just add a pause so they don't crash or something

[unkempt blade]

would honestly be worth keeping a storage container of uranium rods if it meant I could free fly for big builds with the hoverpack

[real shale]

I wish there were traffic lights in this game

[mortal ginkgo]

if a waypoint is used by more than one tractor, they actually stop at the previous point if the other point infront is occupied

@unkempt blade can know better

[unkempt blade]

they'll queue something like this #screenshots message

[mortal ginkgo]

look at dem madlads being all gentleman

[old widget]

Why tf is this game always so overwhelming getting back into

[real shale]

[cunning glade]

I see

[placid stirrup]

It's like trying to remember your lines in a play after a few months

[shy mulch]

feels like the method of setting waypoints is quite clunky and unintuitive to me

[cunning glade]

It's not

[cunning glade]

Take it one step at a time

[old widget]

Imo trains are much easier to use. I always end up with a lot of trains and roadways are just for me

[cunning glade]

If ur joining a save u were playing I could see it depending on how far u are

[unkempt blade]

1. Using signs helps me remember what stuff I already built does
2. Using the ingame notes or some sort of out of game system helps me remember what the bigger plan was

[old widget]

I meant a new save because none of the QOL stuff is unlocked yet

Getting around is honestly the biggest pain and so is navigating a new factory

[placid stirrup]

An in-game journal at the HUB would go dummy hard

[unkempt blade]

the map pins are also really helpful

[unkempt blade]

there's https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/To-Do_List if you weren't aware but it's kind of limited with the amount of text

[real shale]

I do feel like the map could use some additional functionality though, especially when it comes to planning stuff like railways connections or power lines, it's why I ended up using the cartograph mod

[shy mulch]

yeah I have a ton of trains and drones and they work just fine. but for simple stuff, medium throughput, low/medium distance, I always fall back on stretching belts across the landscape because trucks/tractors just feel annoying to set up

[real shale]

It's so nice to be able to see everything placed on your world on the map

[shy mulch]

most people just use scim for that

[real shale]

SCIM doesn't have that does it? I know it has the locations of nodes and stuff but not the actual placement of your infrastructure

[placid stirrup]

Yeah I'm constantly replacing notes there

[cunning glade]

Not really

Just bhop

[old widget]

I’m guilty of using single car trains for small distances too. I just like the way trains look

[shy mulch]

yes, and so much more

[cunning glade]

Blade runners are fast too unlock if u really need

But bhop is so quick

This is actually a csgo surf map

[placid stirrup]

Slide jump?

[cunning glade]

It just has a mini game

[cunning glade]

Yes bhopping

Bunny hopping

[placid stirrup]

I'm not a bunny

I'm a rat

[cunning glade]

If u are good at it u don't really need blade runners till u get an actual factory going

[placid stirrup]

Cannons also exist

[old widget]

It’s identical to cs? Like jump timing when you land keeps momentum? Interesting I’m going to try this

[real shale]

Yeah

[old widget]

Once you unlock cannons with jetpack are the best way to get around for sure

[cunning glade]

Gets even faster with jetpack and blade runners

[placid stirrup]

Land into a slide first for preserved momentum

[cunning glade]

I just modded in upgradeable hyper tubes

I don't like the idea of cannons personally

[old widget]

I usually clip belts under catwalks and b hop on those to navigate my factory

We’ll slide jump I didn’t know about b hopping I’m going to try when I get home

[real shale]

A hypertube cannon but it just launches me directly into a wall for those moments where I feel like hitting one at Mach 20

[placid stirrup]

10-entrance cannon fits nicely in a BP

[real shale]

I think someone made a more compact one using junctions somewhere too

[cunning glade]

I just have a sky elevator that then routes hypertubes too all of my factorys with mk3 I can cross the map in prolly under a min with them

[glad drum]

Yes but even easier because it's just slide-jump after you land and you'll keep on keepin' on

[cunning glade]

Hold c

Jump when u hit the ground

Simple

[placid stirrup]

Ahh yeah you can do revolving door style more easily now

[old widget]

Oh interesting ok so slide when I land I’ll try it

[glad drum]

Don't listen to him - he has now idea what to do

what you wanna do is hold c then jump when you hit the ground

[cunning glade]

Personally prolly won't ever use cannons 🤷

[vestal hill]

greetings!

[placid stirrup]

(doesn't work uphill, naturally)

[placid stirrup]

How you doin'?

[cunning glade]

That's where getting good comes into play

[glad drum]

YO!

[vestal hill]

good good, just getting coal power running

[old widget]

My factories always turn into floating platforms since it’s easy and I’m lazy anyway so cool

[vestal hill]

sick of these biomass burners

[placid stirrup]

Standard array or rogue?

[vestal hill]

standard array?

[glad drum]

True 🙁 There's a lot of terrain that has small flat/downhill spots that you can kinda utilize - and if you're going fast enough it's not totally crazy to go downhill, then do a u-turn just for that extra speed

[cunning glade]

Add pillars on the bottom with beams for supports then walls makes it not floaty and look decent

[placid stirrup]

!wikisearch cg

[swift dragon]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[old widget]

This comes when I unlock hoverpack. Too lazy before

[real shale]

Me with a railway bridge that just hovers over the edge of the map

[placid stirrup]

Trust me, I've found many of them at 1600 hrs 😜

[glad drum]

I've found 4

im just being dumb

[vestal hill]

I mean I've not got 4 coal veins nor do i care about following proceedure so probably rogue lol

[cunning glade]

I still don't have a hover pack just a jetpack works just fine

[placid stirrup]

Those are generally the fastest and most efficient layouts to build, with 120/min coal - pretty nice number to work with

[vestal hill]

I've got uhh

360

[jolly flax]

Finally did the wiring and now my factory works stricty on coal power

[vestal hill]

MAM just finished researching a hard drive, hopefully the recipe's decent

[placid stirrup]

Well well well

[jolly flax]

Now time to get smart splitters

[real shale]

Biocoal!

[jolly flax]

Thankfully I got a pure caterium node close by

[glad drum]

I don't think he has access to Resource Well (Well Well)s yet

BA DUM TSS

[jolly flax]

Is iron wire a good recipe or no?

[real shale]

Yes

[placid stirrup]

Oh we got a comedian in our midst. Well, tell us a joke, jokester.

[glad drum]

Yes

[vestal hill]

stitched iron plate or bolted frame,

I turn to you all, fellow ficsit employees. do I take one of these options or do I rescan

[placid stirrup]

Hold onto it

[vestal hill]

w h a t

[jolly flax]

I got cast screws on my first hardrive

[real shale]

Bolted frame........screw recipes.....evil....

[placid stirrup]

Save it, develop your HD library

[glad drum]

My entire factory is a joke but I'll try my best.... Ahem

Knock Knock.

[vestal hill]

I got iron wire then cast screws and now this

[vestal hill]

buyt why

[old widget]

Is it me or does this game not really start before you unlock turbo fuel and uranium processing? So you have the power to do whatever you feel like

[real shale]

Because less options to roll for then

[placid stirrup]

Come in, I'm naked

[jolly flax]

So the recipies dont appear again

[real shale]

More likely to get good recipes

[vestal hill]

sounds like that trope of never using limited resources

[jolly flax]

Ayo

[glad drum]

With the way this is going, I'll just DM you - very innaprioriate and unrelated to Satisfactory smh my head

[placid stirrup]

So you can guarantee all the desirable recipes when you want them

[jolly flax]

Hardrives are limited

[old widget]

Yes officer, that’s the guy

[vestal hill]

EXACTLY

[placid stirrup]

Uhh... Which head?

[glad drum]

Recipes you have still available as options but DON'T choose will be eliminated from the pool of possible new choices.

I did the same when I had a bunch of recipes I knew I wanted to use, but wasn't going to utilize yet, just save 'em til you're gonna go build the factory

[vestal hill]

mm that's fair

[real shale]

I did the same trying to get pure aluminium

[old widget]

IMO overclocking, trains, and windowless builds are a cheap pc’s best friend by far

[placid stirrup]

What about triple paned curtain wall high-rise?

[glad drum]

Hey I just knocked, I didn't do nothin' GET YOUR HANDS OFF ME - Can't a man enjoy a meal?? A SUCCULENT CHINESE MEAL?

[placid stirrup]

Sir this is a Wendy's

[real shale]

What about handcrafting everything except space elevator parts, death by crafting a million screws

[old widget]

I do small single output factories and send them elsewhere with trains. I try to decorate the exterior and just leaving nothing there where windows would normally go

[jolly flax]

Why does ai limited neer copper sheets

[old widget]

Helps my shit pc a lot

[glad drum]

AI are actually allergic to Copper

[jolly flax]

Oof

[real shale]

Metroman?

[glad drum]

AI the whole time

[feral geyser]

Alt recipe uses plastic and QW

[jolly flax]

I need smart splitters

[glad drum]

It was an Al Gorey

[old widget]

Succulent is one of the few words I’d describe as both classy and greasy.

[feral geyser]

That reference took me a sec lmao

[jolly flax]

Also whats the difference between smart splitters and programable splitters

[feral geyser]

Programmables can have up to 64 filters

[jolly flax]

I see, but why would someone have 64 different stuff on a belt

[glad drum]

Smart Splitters get used! HAHAHA

@placid stirrup here is your joke

[real shale]

The SUPREME SUSHI BELT

[feral geyser]

Good for sushi sorting

[jolly flax]

I dont like spaghetii

[old widget]

Working sushi belts are soooo satisfying idc what anyone says

[real shale]

But sushi belts are less spaghetti

Less belts when you use sushi belts, just.....50x the splitters

[glad drum]

I think making a sushi belt actually gave me more spaghetti

edit: because I embrace spaghetti

[cunning glade]

Performance in this game is amazing

[feral geyser]

The only sushi belts I have are heading to storage/sink

[old widget]

That’s the thing sushi belts are god tier for higher end items that are lower throughput

[cunning glade]

Even fsr4 still hit over 200 fps max 4k for the most part

[real shale]

I made a recycling sushi belt and its great, all the parts go in a loop until they get used up or dumped into a sink

[sullen stream]

Can I just delete the spiders in the game?

[vestal hill]

sushi belt?

[real shale]

Arachnophobia mode is a thing

[feral geyser]

You can turn off hostility.

[vestal hill]

turn on arachnophobia mode it's great I'm not arachnophobic and I still have it on

[real shale]

Actually I'm pretty sure you can delete them entirely too using AGS

and I'm pretty that's the one setting that doesn't affect achievements as well if I'm not mistaken

[glad drum]

Am I the only one that found Arachnophia mode MORE scary??

[feral geyser]

No

[vestal hill]

I love laughing at them, takes my brain a couple seconds to process why there's a 2d cat just sitting there

[real shale]

Jokes on them I'm afraid of cats AND spiders

[sullen stream]

I'm also afraid of cats.

[glad drum]

I had an asthma when I was but a child, so the inhalers freak me out too - so I never use them.

[feral geyser]

Bruh

[real shale]

I'm not even arachnophobic and somehow the stingers manage to jumpscare me so much, they are so fast I swear

[feral geyser]

I love cats, but it's disturbing to see them there lunging at you.

[sullen stream]

yess

[real shale]

Went into a cave, saw 4 elite stingers and one gas stingers at the end of it, walked right out because I was not dealing with that lmao

[glad drum]

I wish we could have "Shrek Mode" where they get turned into Shrek saying "MY SWAMP"

[feral geyser]

Gotta get that Homing ammo and strap in 😎

[sullen stream]

I am a cowardly guy.

[real shale]

It's not even that, it's them appearing out of nowhere that scares me

[feral geyser]

MOD DEVELOPERS, GET ON THIS NOW

[real shale]

The amount of times I've been vibing only for my screen to be SPIDER in a split second and scare the life out of me is crazy

[broken valve]

huuuummmmmmm guys i think i messed up my first turbifuel power plant (picture in screenshot channel), will this block the item flow ?

[sullen stream]

Delete the spiders

[jolly flax]

Finally got smart splitters

[glad drum]

Hey, Winnie the Pooh is actually in the public domain now so you COULD change 'em all to Winnie saying "Oh bother..." and "I'm so rumbly in my tumbly..." as they lunge at you

[real shale]

I actually had a moment where I turned around right as one was leaping at me and I ended up with a heart attack

[old widget]

It’s a belt with multiple item types being transported on it

[jolly flax]

I can now get that sweet 100% production rate

[feral geyser]

No, it's only a visual clipping

Are you having another issue?

[broken valve]

ok thanks

yes but im not done yet

[old widget]

@vestal hill sushi belts are very good for lower end computers and keeping low throughput factories smaller and organized

[broken valve]

im connecting the coal into the 36 reffineries and then coming back to help

[vestal hill]

Oh yeah those

[real shale]

Okay but hear me out, one singular sushi belt for everything........

[vestal hill]

I could never unless it’s a one way belt to the sink

[old widget]

You’d never really get the volume you need but you could do it

[real shale]

Oh I know, it'd probably be slower than handcrafting everything but...it would be torturously funny

[old widget]

I can’t imagine calculating ratios on a single belt, would be underclocking left and right eww

[glad drum]

How was school? Did you learn about factor(y)s?

Get it cause school teaches you about factors but this is a discord about Satisfactory haha

[feral geyser]

I love me some prime factorization

[glad drum]

isn't that the Transformer

[real shale]

I don't know, I didn't go to school, I just found myself on some alien planet and being told to build a factory

[old widget]

School is for indoctrinated wage slaves anyway

[real shale]

Yeah, imagine being a slave to a company........

Never had that before........

FICSIT HR treats me so well that it doesn't even feel like slavery despite not getting paid

[old widget]

You’re not a slave to a company in a capitalist society, you choose where you work. I get that. I’m just saying, schools are designed to make you a good complacent worker

[real shale]

I don't know, being stranded on an alien planet with no way home seems to also make you a good complacent worker....just without the will of choice

[feral geyser]

Oh boy, we going off topic now to talk about the politics of capitalism? 😏

[old widget]

Kind of but I’m done

[real shale]

I mean I was making a property of FICSIT joke

[old widget]

I’m sorry 🥺

[real shale]

Consume.

[feral geyser]

I was kidding too

[old widget]

So… hear me out… I know this game isn’t factorio…

But has anyone had luck with a city block design? 🤡

[leaden dome]

i dont care if the third dimension exists, flat buses look pretty

[feral geyser]

Kinstruction has made a whole Cyberpunk city.

[old widget]

Well specifically with trains

[feral geyser]

Quite impressive, skyscrapers, city streets/blocks, the works.

[old widget]

When I try to do anything compact at all, traffic jams start because satisfactory trains stop SO SLOW

[feral geyser]

.... yeah, so do trains irl.

[real shale]

My trains finding the perfect configuration to gridlock themselves and make me question my train signalling

[old widget]

Seemingly the only way to do it is you have really large off ramps to each module

[feral geyser]

Yeah, trains need a good chunk of space to operate.

[slate lava]

will refinerys stall if i dont use residue fuel not fast enough?

[old widget]

Maybe that’s what I can do. Just space out the modules further… hmm I got an idea now

[feral geyser]

Correct, you gotta use/sink byproducts

[real shale]

Yes, byproducts need to be dealt with properly

[old widget]

Early game I lazily sink it

[feral geyser]

You can refine HOR back into fuel and burn it

[real shale]

Either through feedback looping or sinking or using it else where

[slate lava]

that was the plan but once again i forgot i can overclock the poowerplants

[feral geyser]

You can turn PolyRes into fabric and sink it (worth 3× as much as just sinking it)

(If you have the synthetic alt)

Or, bring some fabric to plates and coal, and make gas filters with it.

[slate lava]

why do powerplants not show usage in standby

maaan

[feral geyser]

Fuel's standard burn rate is 20/min, do the math (40/min@200%, 50/min@250%)

[slate lava]

math bad

[silk ocean]

How did the test go @native tapir - it was rubberbanding quite a lot later on but I didn't know how many were connected

[real shale]

When the game has a built in calculator to the search bar, I hate to say it, math is kinda useful

[feral geyser]

Math is 90% of the game

[slate lava]

na fck math, i just brute force it

[real shale]

Oh no....

[feral geyser]

Brother...

[real shale]

You poor thing......

[slate lava]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-double-thumbs-up-like-agreed-yup-gif-14284264219182206721

[real shale]

Brute forcing when you hit aluminium

[slate lava]

unlocked it 20 mins ago

[feral geyser]

I used a problem from this game during a tutoring session to teach systems of equations 😭

[old widget]

Anyone know how many blocks ahead of a stop does a train start braking?

[slate lava]

atleast 1

[silk ocean]

The computer seems to be able to cheat xD

Sometimes they practically stop on a dime

[old widget]

Well no because if I put my stations close to a main throughway they always end up blocking each other

[white dawn]

Yeah, automated trains can go from full speed to total stop if need be; I think that the braking distance might actually depend on factors like current speed, etc. If you stick an intersection at the bottom of a long decline, for instance, you're pretty likely to see that sudden-brake thing happen

But it could be that it's partially dependent on block configuration; I admit that I've never looked too closely at the behavior

[silk ocean]

Probably down to signalling

Make the blocks larger so that trains entering or exiting can fully fit within, or path signals on the intersection

[frail sleet]

If the train is going too fast it can literally stop instantly with no damage

[silk ocean]

I've even seen them overshoot and back up xD

[native tapir]

Still ongoing! We are trying to test the limits and do the autopsy later. We have the netrunners (lol) examining graphs in the basement. Speaking a language I don't speak.

[old widget]

What I’m attempting to describe (idk I’m dumb) is when I have a high traffic track there are no issues. My difficulty is when I try to place stations close to the track in modular builds, trains brake before turning into the station therefore they block trains behind them and it turns into a traffic jam

[native tapir]

We really are hoping to crash the server. Get as close to 128 people as we can and see what we can learn from it.

[silk ocean]

Stress test to destruction 😉

[frail sleet]

Yeah, you need a new lane which merges onto the "main highway"

You can cut down the length by putting the station at a higher elevation than the track, because that way the uphill climb into the station assists with braking and the downhill fall accelerates it back up to speed.

[old widget]

Ooohhh, does this actually work? I’m curious how short I can get it with that ty

[frail sleet]

It should. I have never tested it xd

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I just need the trains to exit the main track at full speed with the shortest distance possible is all I’m working on

[silk ocean]

Trains will naturally decelerate where possible, like approaching stations or red signals, that's pretty normal. It honestly just sounds like a too congested area of track, but 🤷

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german history in #screenshots

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My issue is I’m wording my question incorrectly sorry. I’m aware of what the problem is I’m just curious what the smallest possible lane merges and exits are where trains can maintain full speed until they’ve cleared a high traffic lane

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Hindu History 🛕

[silk ocean]

I think basically as tight as you can make track segments, i.e. how tight the turns are doesn't affect the speed logic as far as I have seen. So they will clear at full speed if there isn't anything ahead to start slowing down for. If you removed the station and had a long onwards track I think they will just blast around the corner full speed

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I’ll probably just have to run some tests

[silk ocean]

Yea xD

[real shale]

FICSIT R&D

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Google says they apply brakes 250m before a signal. There’s no way it’s that long

That’s like 31 blocks and some change what