satisfactory

[shy mulch]

there's several groups, and they are quite busy, screenshots posted there get more love than ones posted here tbh

[solemn crystal]

ah

[lavish lance]

Since the game is still being worked on, i dont think we would get a GOG release any time soon.

But i hope that once the game is no longer being worked on that we will get a release

[shy mulch]

What would be the benefit of that?

[lavish lance]

the game could be preserved for the future

its too precious to lose

the steam or epic releases would stop working if anything goes wrong with either company in 30 years or some other point in ttime

a drm free release would never stop working

[shy mulch]

I'll be dead by then so I'm good

[lavish lance]

others wont be though

and i think everyone way after us should still have the chance to play current day games

just like you can read a book from 500 years ago

[shy mulch]

Fair enough 🙂

A book from 500 years ago I definitely can't read, it would need translated 😛

[lavish lance]

maybe some people in 500 years wanna play satisfactory.
Would be great if they could

yeah sure but its very much possible

[shy mulch]

would need 21st century hardware

[lavish lance]

emulation

[shy mulch]

easier said than done, it's already a pain in the hoop running emulators smoothly to play 30 year old games now

[lavish lance]

its a pain because over 90% of games from bak then are lost to time

[shy mulch]

exactly 🙂

[lavish lance]

drm free at least gives games a real chance of getting preserved

from what i heard in the streams it did not sound like CSS was fundamentaly against a DRM free release, they just didnt think it would be worth the additional work

something like that.

but at some point they will move on from the game, i hope that there will be a final drm free release at that point

[shy mulch]

there should be a law that any game that goes 5 years without any updates should be legally forced into open source 😛

[lavish lance]

open source and drm free are not the same

[shy mulch]

if it's open source, people will copy it, regardless of drm

[lavish lance]

its a hard ask.
lets settle for DRM free first.

open source maybe as a goal after that, but idk if that would ever happen

[shy mulch]

if the company isn't making any revenue from it any more, then it's surely cheaper for them to remove the drm, because they won't need to maintain those servers

[lavish lance]

Thats for online games, lets hope stop killing games will get a good solution for multiplayer games.

[shy mulch]

There is a strong argument against the stop killing games movement though, because if a company is legally bound to keep an online game active forever, then that's a permanent fixed cost for them that they have to keep spending even after revenue is zero. People will just stop making that kind of game

There needs to be a better middle-ground solution, because that really isn't going to help

[lavish lance]

Thats just a misconception keeping games online forever was never something it asks for.

Propaganda spread by big game publishers and pirate software

Surreal how much damage pirate software has causes

Multiplayer in satisfactory is tied to steam and epic services, right?

[shy mulch]

If they do take away the ability to play online multiplayer, then they need to allow others to run it themselves. But that's technically already possible with satisfactory, no?

[lavish lance]

There are self hosted servers, so i think so

I mean the joining a friends game. I think thats steam/epic

[shy mulch]

I'm not aware of any legal barrier to preventing someone else doing that right now

[reef basin]

they do not require you to keep the game on forever
they require you to have an exit plan where people can keep playing the game

e.g. release server files

[dense violet]

As greeny has pointed out you have a critical failure of understanding on the topic

[frail sleet]

we read books from 500 years ago in school, but yeah, bit of help needed 😛

[hollow echo]

I have been playing satisactory again for a while and was wondering why there is no weather anymore. Can someone tell me if it is a bug or if it has been removed and why?

[frail sleet]

The weather on alpha was set up in UE4, and it broke going to UE5. Hasn't been reimplemented (yet?)

[zenith pecan]

I kinda miss the rain, though raining indoors was a bit immersion breaking.

[limpid cairn]

Isn’t that just because of the stop killing games petition?

[zenith pecan]

Same issue with Dune Awakening, indoor sandstorms, I'm not sure if it can be dealt with in a satisfactory manner, only time will tell.

[hollow echo]

oh ok too bad always loved the change of weather hopefully it will come back

[hard ivy]

iirc they said they want to bring it back but that it's harder to add it in the new engine version

[reef basin]

if you look what I'm replying to, yes, we're talking about that

[limpid cairn]

I’m slow sorry

[rigid mist]

#screenshots message @uncut pier rebuild all the rails, and the signals, over and over until it works. Works every time for me

[limpid cairn]

It’s the left bottom one

Not the bottom left one !!!

Wait nvm

It’s the left top one ☝️

[hard ivy]

? To me it looks like the top right and the right top

the color changes after the top left just fine

[limpid cairn]

Maybe both are broken

Why are trains so shit in 1.1😔

[hard ivy]

isn't it fun? #screenshots message

[limpid cairn]

💀

it looks fun lol

[rigid mist]

lol I had my 50:8 train do a roundabout on a 3 way

With only 2 connected

[limpid cairn]

Why do you have a roundabout in your train system

[limpid cairn]

Does that work with freight cars too btw?

[lone marten]

Hi slow sorry, I'm Tree :)

[true mulch]

to give an example for what was already said, I'll take League of Legends: the law would require them to release the dedicated server software they're using to run the game themselves, not keep the servers on until the heat death of the universe

[limpid cairn]

But there’s two T in you’re name? 🤔

[lone marten]

A mere ttechnicality

[limpid cairn]

I believe no league player wants to have the dedicated software after the game goes down🤔

[hard ivy]

yep. the rails are just connected like normal

[gusty temple]

Piratesoftware and his consequences has been a disaster for the human race x)

[unkempt blade]

it would be interesting if the league community on average would become more or less toxic if forced onto non-riot private servers

seems like a recipe for further radicalization 😆

[gusty temple]

Probably less toxic but functionally the game is toxic because it's popular imo, it'd already become less toxic just by losing that popularity

(popularity means a lot of players, a lot of players means some assholes, some assholes means that the main active players are assholes and people who can bear assholes)

[true mulch]

"but this will lead to less online-only games being made!"
"I already said I support SKG, you don't have to sell it to me"

[gusty temple]

Ofc always-competitive games encourage that too

[unkempt blade]

Yeah I'm not talking just a few. I think League has kind of a famously toxic average player already

[gusty temple]

I'm all for SKG, partly because it'd encourage game preservations and partly because the more software becomes open source, the better

[grim ermine]

Open source isnt always better

[unkempt blade]

you'd have to specify what better means to you

software isn't worse because it's open source

it's worse in those situations because it gets fewer resources

[gusty temple]

More code being OS means more code exemples for people to learn, more non-commercial stuff to practice on, etc

[gusty temple]

Can't get less ressources than "closed source and abandonned" x)

I'm not saying "stop all game developpement by private companies foreverrrrr", but code turning OS is a net good

[tacit trellis]

Man i wish you could snap the stackable conveyer poles onto a ground conveyer

[atomic notch]

You can stack conveyor poles on conveyors

[tacit trellis]

I meant snap

[atomic notch]

Yeah no

Ill usually just put it under then delete the regular pole

[tacit trellis]

?

[wooden mural]

how is the mk2 pipes in 1.1? havent had the time to play yet

did they fix it not handling the full 600?

[unkempt blade]

it doesn't handle 600?

[wooden mural]

had an issue before yes

it fills 600 but overtime some machines that need fluid lose efficiency

so it turns on and off

[unkempt blade]

I assume you're using a pipe on a long row of machines that doesn't loop back to the start?

[wooden mural]

something like that yes

[unkempt blade]

you should try looping it back to the start

[wooden mural]

turbo fuel specifically

[unkempt blade]

it makes pipes happy

[wooden mural]

can valves help?

like without the loopy loop

[unkempt blade]

valves will probably make it worse if anything

[wooden mural]

shi fluids are a double edge sword on this game

[tacit trellis]

Fluids are also very fucky irl so like they got the accuracy down on that lmao

[wooden mural]

ikr

first time i played had me learning fluid dynamics lmao

[unkempt blade]

the real hack is to package the fluids and move them with factory carts to keep pipe networks as simple as possible

[wooden mural]

havent thought of that

have u finished the game??

[wooden mural]

just realized your ign is factory carts so naturally u would adovcate for it lmao

scews are hell to math

casted screws ily

[dawn sun]

Factory carts are literally just better trucks, advocating for it is only natural /jk

[hard ivy]

no screws >> cast screws

[dawn sun]

Just wait until you learn of steel screws. I am carried by them

[wooden mural]

yep havent actually tought og using it so ill try it next time

[wooden mural]

REAL

[vestal hill]

is the pdoruction rate really high or what? cuz otherwise that just sounds like extra work & waste of coal for steel screws

[dawn sun]

1 steel beam for iirc 250 screws in a constructor

[wooden mural]

really depends on ur set uo

[vestal hill]

mmm I need steel screws

[hard ivy]

the production rate is high but it's still a waste of resources and space and power

[wooden mural]

its all boilds down to efficiency efficiency

[vestal hill]

it really depends on the build tbh

[wooden mural]

that too

[vestal hill]

just depends on if you have the coal & power to spare

[wooden mural]

have u all finished the game?

[hard ivy]

you're off by a factor of 5 lol. it's 1 beam to 52 screws

[vestal hill]

nope

[wooden mural]

at my pace i doubt ill finish it this yr lmao

[dawn sun]

Oh right I'm thinking in parts per minute LMAO, it's 5 to approximately 250 or smth

[wooden mural]

with irl work and all

[vestal hill]

got to end of phase 2 iirc but I'm restarting now (figured I'd finally join the disc) cuz burnout

[wooden mural]

HAHAHHAHA

[vestal hill]

?

[dawn sun]

Been a while since I used them lol, been too focused on oil products lately

[wooden mural]

i think ive had alteast 5-6 restarts since update 7

so ur not alone in the burn out

[vestal hill]

lmao must be at at least 1.5k hrs by now

[tacit trellis]

💀 I'm getting burnt out trying to do phase 3 shit so I went back to silksong lmao

[vestal hill]

yep I decided it was a great time to redesign all factories 💀

[wooden mural]

surprisingly no just in the hundreds

[vestal hill]

oh ok 600?

[wooden mural]

thats the fun part tho when you optimize ur builds thats where satisfactory shines

FICSit would be proud

[vestal hill]

yeah but I was spending 99.9% of the time on repetitive building

considering going back to that playthrough and just tearing down the build

[wooden mural]

had to rebuild my 2 day iron production lines cus they werent efficient imagine the pain

[vestal hill]

oh god

what phase you grinding towards atm?

[wooden mural]

just to lean that my plastic and rubber production was overflowing and shutting down my train lines

[vestal hill]

I cannot wait to mess with trains I am so excited

[dawn sun]

Trains are fun to work with

[wooden mural]

im at phase 3

[vestal hill]

ooh okay

[wooden mural]

junctions at start are confusing

[hard ivy]

they're even more fun to make them efficient

[wooden mural]

the signals sometimes are buggy

[vestal hill]

oph wait I did stop at phase 3, I remember having rubber unlocke

[dawn sun]

They're not as fun to set up, but I've found that just making a blueprint of the pillars makes for a pretty relaxed building process most of the time

[vestal hill]

what is your favorite altenrate screw recipe

[wooden mural]

was so fed up after unlocking the computers in the update before 1.0 u had to mix 3 or 4 items to make 1 product like what how

[dawn sun]

I still dream of a massive way-too-much logistics train network that actually works. One day it'll happen

[wooden mural]

this^^

[vestal hill]

you still do I swear

[dawn sun]

Typically I'd say steel screw just because it saves me a lot of headache on a lot of efficient recipes for midgame items, but cast screws have a special place just because of how nice they are early game

[wooden mural]

delivering stuff is fun ngl but you really have to do the math to avoid down times

[vestal hill]

mm fair I've got cast screws in the mam waiting for me to choose

[wooden mural]

only game that needs heavy math

[vestal hill]

lmao makes work fun

[dawn sun]

And bolted plates and frames are some of my fav recipes in the game, especially early on. Cast screws make them so easy

[vestal hill]

iron wire

[wooden mural]

life saver early game rods to screws just makes the process long af

[vestal hill]

oh wait

[hard ivy]

bro what they only make your life harder lmao

[vestal hill]

I've just remembered I am CURRENTLY making my smart plating factory

well was earlier

[dawn sun]

I suppose we have different definitions of harder

[wooden mural]

harder is when you sit and just watch the conveyor belt stop and hear the one thing satisfactory players fear the most

power turns off

[vestal hill]

don't

NOO

[wooden mural]

HAHAHHAHAHAHA

[vestal hill]

I'm only 110 hrs in and that sound haunts me

[wooden mural]

and for that reason alone i made a dedicated battery line to jump start my power lines

[unkempt blade]

he's right though, screws make everything better!

[vestal hill]

I miss those power controlling boxes

I cannot wait to get to start of phase three

[hard ivy]

1. more machines to build
2. more items to deal with
3. even more machines to build because you don't have belts fast enough to supply the assemblers at full speed

[wooden mural]

optimize everything its grindt from there on :((

[vestal hill]

I am trying to optimize smart plating factory atm

it's operating off of two sattelites but hey

[wooden mural]

you can actually just skip the space elevators items

[vestal hill]

w h y

[wooden mural]

like make a factory just for that no need to include it in your supply lines

[tacit trellis]

Space elevator items are scams man

[vestal hill]

yeah that's what I have

[wooden mural]

YEP

they are USELESS

[vestal hill]

the two sattelites are purely for the smart plating

[vestal hill]

except for the sink

[unkempt blade]

yeah but is always taking the "easiest" route more fun?

[wooden mural]

true but youd be wasting resources for some other factory

[tacit trellis]

Just make an assembler leads to a container in and out and manually feed the ingredients

[vestal hill]

that doesn't sound like a scalable idea

nor an efficient one

[wooden mural]

it shouldnt be

merely for unlock the next phase

[vestal hill]

mmm that's fair

[hard ivy]

nah, even for that they're not that useful. I mean you do get a lot of points for them, but I very rarely need more points than I'm getting from sinking excess building materials

[tacit trellis]

You only need like the required amount for the next phase they're useless ass items and spagettis your factory

[wooden mural]

better items to sink are just overflow from factories

[vestal hill]

welp I guess I'm deleting that factory then lol

[wooden mural]

never too late to restart

HAHAHAHHAHAHA

[vestal hill]

nah I can't be bothered

[tacit trellis]

Just keep it once you have it lmao

[dawn sun]

1: I'm literally taking machines out of the process by making more plates/frames per machine in the same timeframe and skipping iron rods
2: sure it's more items, but not unmanageable if you think about logistics for like 5 seconds
3: early game I am not concerned with 100% efficiency. By the time I am/should be, I already have belts that can handle that amount of screws. It's literally not an issue to me

But hey, don't let me tell you how to play the game. You do you, and I'll do my way

[wooden mural]

had the same problem my first playthrough had to learn it the hard way

[vestal hill]

it's not even functional and using all of my availible iron nodes except like 2 pure ones

which I'm quite far from

[wooden mural]

thats where it sucks

[shy mulch]

smart plating is still needed if you want to farm sink points

[wooden mural]

you could be using that to make modular frames HAHAHA

[tacit trellis]

Yeah my first base is a smart plating factory and it's useless ass

[shy mulch]

@hard ivy how do you make BWD without smart plating?

[vestal hill]

LOL are they even needed past phase three?

[hard ivy]

you still don't need it to get sink points 🤷‍♂️

[tacit trellis]

Idfk man I got burnt out in phase 3

[vestal hill]

:( same

[shy mulch]

ballistic warp drives are the most efficient way to get high sink points, and they require smart plating

[wooden mural]

nope ud o need it for modular engines

[vestal hill]

eh that's a problem for later right?

[wooden mural]

same here

[unkempt blade]

smart plating gets used a ton for future elevator packages and if you somehow have more than you need it sinks for good points

[wooden mural]

important thing is to have fun

[shy mulch]

my endgame ballistic warp drive sink factory uses 63/min smart plating

[unkempt blade]

I agree, fun is fun

[wooden mural]

me with my machines runnning at 98% -_-

[dawn sun]

I usually just make a smart plate line and keep it running into the sink until I need them again for the engines. Unless I need the power, then I disconnect it temporarily

[vestal hill]

thats such a good point

[unkempt blade]

yeah I'm not sure it's worth scaling waaaay up for phase 1 but I usually wind up scaling it for other phases

50 plates is really nothing a handfed setup can't handle

[wooden mural]

i scale up when i unlocked the mk2 miners then future plan for mk3 miners

[dawn sun]

Yeah phase 1 handcraft, phase 2 gets that dedicated line

[vestal hill]

mk3 miners exist??

[unkempt blade]

I also put a lot of emphasis on coupons because I like doing the decorative stuff early if possible

[dawn sun]

Same

[wooden mural]

so its a LOOOONG way from where we are now so relax AHHAHA

[vestal hill]

yeah I nneed to get a proper sink setup

[vestal hill]

the factory must grow

[wooden mural]

smart splitters are good for sink set ups

[vestal hill]

I cannot wait for all that MAM stuff

[wooden mural]

hear your songs

[vestal hill]

I speedran mk. 2 poles but that's it

[unkempt blade]

yeah I think smart splitter is worth make a line for in the MAM just so you can start adding overflows to stuff

[wooden mural]

ngl havent use the mk poles lmao

[hard ivy]

why???

[vestal hill]

you're telling me you're living off of 4 CONNECTION poles???

[wooden mural]

irdk 4 line connection is enough

YES judge me HAHAHAHA

[vestal hill]

NO

[unkempt blade]

a lot of the early stuff isn't very many points per item but it all adds up pretty quick when all your factories have an overflow setup

[wooden mural]

spamming all my poles per machine

[vestal hill]

I cannot imagine the spaghetti that is that power system

[wooden mural]

wall outlet makes it clean tho

[vestal hill]

BUT STILL the headaches you must've had

[shy mulch]

if you're planning to spend a long time in lower phases, making things pretty etc., but still want the sink points, then my advice is get a bunch of lizard doggos tamed, they can give you endgame items that you can feed into the sink for relatively high amount of points, you'll get a ton of coupons in no time

[wooden mural]

my ceiling got line runners so even tho it looks spaghetti its organized af

[vestal hill]

lol

[vestal hill]

haven't found a single one of those red berries yet

[gusty temple]

I just feed basically everything into sinks, everytime I check it I have like 20+ tickets

[shy mulch]

they are absolutely millions of them, what biome did you start in?

[vestal hill]

the second one I think

[wooden mural]

explore more u need a lot of things in the world

[vestal hill]

the deserty thing that isn't a desert

[unkempt blade]

I usually tame all the ones I find near my MAM. If it weren't such a pain leading them home I'd do waaay more than that. I'm a doggo farm believer

[wooden mural]

mercer spheres SAM hard drives even potential node line plannings

[shy mulch]

that'll be why, tons of berries in most of the world, except the desert lol

[vestal hill]

waiting for the tractor to get properly exploring the neasby nodes, explorer + jetpack outside of the biome

[vestal hill]

yep lol

[shy mulch]

if you don't mind spoilers, then check SCIM and you can see exactly where they are

[wooden mural]

tractor is fun and all but the return aint worth it unless its nearby

trucks on the other hand

[vestal hill]

eh I'd rathre explore the map myself

[wooden mural]

this is good advice early to mid game

but if u want it naturally up to u

[shy mulch]

perfectly reasonable, I felt the same and spent a huge amount of time exploring, once I'd completed the space elevator I went to SCIM and found all the stuff I'd missed along the way 😄

[vestal hill]

you mean building the elevator or all phases

[shy mulch]

all phases

[vestal hill]

damn is there any content after that?

[shy mulch]

technically no, but there's plenty to do if you're creative

[vestal hill]

fair

[wooden mural]

thats why u enjoy the journey

[shy mulch]

exactly

[wooden mural]

dont rush to the end its boring if u make spaghetti lines just to rush the ending

[vestal hill]

how many hours did that take?

[shy mulch]

I see people finishing the entire space elevator phases in like 100h on first playthrough and wonder if they even looked at any lore or anything lol

[vestal hill]

yeah ik I'm tryna get to a point where I have the bare essentials I need to be a good ficsit employee but I'm still taking it quite slow

[wooden mural]

just skipping all the interactions of ada and the alien

[severe prawn]

Is there a way to see your ping when playing multiplayer? Steam in case it matters

[wooden mural]

wheres the fun in that

[vestal hill]

that alien jumpscared me the first time

[shy mulch]

I completed the final phase of the space elevator after about 300h, I'd handfed loads and made a complete meal of everything, and spent half that time just exploring the place and learning stuff. Since then I've spent another 700h just making everything bigger and nicer and playing with transportation and logistics

[vestal hill]

dang same save?

[shy mulch]

yes

[wooden mural]

peak FICSit employee

[vestal hill]

💯

[wooden mural]

pings can be seen by everyone wdym

[severe prawn]

Time for packets to reach server

[wooden mural]

im not really sure

are you playing locally?

or dedicated server

[shy mulch]

if playing locally he wouldn't care about ping cos it would be <1ms lol

[wooden mural]

well other players might not be in the same region so thats why am asking

[shy mulch]

that would be the other player's ping then, he wouldn't have any reason or need to see that

[wooden mural]

my friend and I used to play before he was in uk and im in the aus at the time so theres some lag in between

[severe prawn]

Playing with a friend, have various issues regardless of who is hosting, trying to get more info to troubleshoot

[shy mulch]

I've never played this as multiplayer, so I don't know any specifics, I just have a good understanding of networks. If there's anything I might be able to help with I'd be happy to

[wooden mural]

maybe theres a mod that can check for pings try the steam workshop or FAQ

check for vpn too maybe ur friend is using one

but if youre not in the same region expect that there will be lag

[severe prawn]

Any general purpose steps you'd recommend for diagnosing network problems / multiplayer for two people doing the self hosting thing?

We're like 15 minutes away from each other so there is something screwy that isnt explained by speed of light delay

[wooden mural]

https://github.com/AlmostGosu/satisfactory-ini/blob/master/README.MD

try this

https://steamcommunity.com/app/526870/discussions/1/3117025249767419083//1000?l=hungarian

its old but give it a try

[severe prawn]

Much obliged, thank you

[lament niche]

thoughts? #design-and-architecture message

[wooden mural]

tower is heading there

work on those support pillars my guy

[shy mulch]

whoever is hosting the server, try hosting xampp and let the other person ping the webserver, interrogate the response times in the browser, if that's fine, then it narrows it down to something to do with the actual game server
check hop details with tracert
check firewall/antivirus logs to see if they are interfering

[simple parcel]

Did they fix the issue snapping issue with straight belts?

[latent meadow]

this is werid i go form last time setting up oil to not having enough fuel to this time having too much fuel and heavy oil residude

[shy mulch]

more power for you then 😄

[latent meadow]

yea

i ws so scared becuase last itme i got to where i stuck

i guess i went too safe this time over did it

[shy mulch]

no such thing as overdoing power 😛

[latent meadow]

that true

[shy mulch]

more powerrrrrrrrrrr

[latent meadow]

i already making like 3k

[shy mulch]

I want to make more power

[latent meadow]

nearly 3k and i only useing says 588

[shy mulch]

MW or GW?

[latent meadow]

mw

[shy mulch]

you'll use more than that eventually, so just keep growing

[latent meadow]

i not sure i got to ever get to gw tbh

yea true

i cant wait to do nuclear agin

that was so much fun

[shy mulch]

588MW is more than half a GW, so you're already using enough to justify getting more power

[latent meadow]

true

[unkempt blade]

oil is a good time to really start scaling it too

[latent meadow]

yea i kind of did that very poorly my last run

but this run i killed it

[unkempt blade]

waaaay more power for your effort than coal and it has some really good alt recipes if you find them

[latent meadow]

i got like 4 oil patches

oputing to each one has there own storage

lol

to about 15 reifinersy

[shy mulch]

if you're sending fuel into fuel generators, leave plenty space, once you unlock turbofuel and/or rocket fuel, that same oil will power a LOT more generators, so make sure you have plenty room for expansion

[latent meadow]

refines

i thoug about that i nee to aculty package fuel

so i can reaserach tubo fuel

[unkempt blade]

or even just going from vanilla fuel to a diluted setup will want a lot more space

[shy mulch]

1500 oil turned into rocket fuel can power 1440 generators

[latent meadow]

dam

that some power

if i juice all my generators i get about 406.5 mw

i need to do something with my heavy oil residude

i not using enough to make plastic

i guess i could go ahead covert resin to plastic

[shy mulch]

if you can get hold of the recycled plastic and recycled rubber alts, you'll find they help pump the numbers up

[latent meadow]

yea

you know wat i could do

i convert the heavy oil to fuel to heavy oil to plastic

because i alreayd producting enough fuelw ithout it

and the heavy not doing anything so might as well put it to use right

nvm that oil sorry

i though it was heavy to plasic

is petroleum coke wroth it

[hard ivy]

for aluminium, yes

[latent meadow]

i was just thinking

maybe iu could convert a lot of the heavy oil resude to coke

instead

of fuel since i alreayd producing too much fuel as is like you said it good for alumin witch be coming soon

[hard ivy]

you don't need much for alu

[latent meadow]

i got too much heavy

so i need heavy to go away so i can start producting plastic agin

for now it not a waste and it not like i gonna miss the heavy lol

[hard ivy]

use alts for plastic then

you'll use a lot less oil too

[latent meadow]

i wish i say i need more oil

but tbh man i swiming in oil too

lol but your point is still very vaild

[hard ivy]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=vE6W7rkWMRmtGQgBTPcH

[lament niche]

#screenshots message

why

[mortal ginkgo]

elevator do be like that sometimes

[lament niche]

I've noticed beams in general just have fucked clipping detection rn. Elevators too

[mortal ginkgo]

I think just both doesnt go well together, other than that beams are pretty chill and cool etc

[lament niche]

oh no, you can be like 10 feet away from the beam you're placing, and it'll still get mad that you're "in the way"

[mortal ginkgo]

ah that

it do be like that when you are fat irl

||it takes one to know one yes hello||

[lament niche]

bro I know five fat people, and you're four of them

[mortal ginkgo]

Truth hits hardest the most. 😔

[shy mulch]

I had a fat friend once. I ate him.

[latent meadow]

so i had issue where i had too much fuel

now i dangerous close to running out

lol talk about goin from one extreme to the other in a manner of mins lol

[lament niche]

no such thing as too much fuel

[unkempt blade]

yeah it swings around pretty quick especially earlier in the game

[twilit tinsel]

I think... Ill make 2700 aluminum sheets and 5400 casings a minute..

[unkempt blade]

you sure you don't want to make more while you're at it?

[twilit tinsel]

Nah that's like a majority of the worlds Bauxite

[lament niche]

#screenshots message

obviously a joke post, but also obviously me being angory about the occasional graphics glitch

(And hey, any excuse I can have to be mad at Ben, Simon, or Hannah I'll take tbh)

[unkempt blade]

you sure do make a lot of jokes about being hostile at the dev team...

[hard ivy]

... why?

[twilit tinsel]

Why not I get a shit load of aluminum

[unkempt blade]

because building factories is fun 😆

[twilit tinsel]

Yeah see you get it

[hard ivy]

because if you're not gonna use all of it, making it will just be a waste of time

[unkempt blade]

sink goes brrrrrr

[twilit tinsel]

The sinks will like them

Okay I have to go to class I'll do stuff later

[white dawn]

I am generally of the "only make what you need right now" camp, but as a counterpoint, is the time really wasted if you had fun doing it? :D

Aluminum's in a bit of a weird spot anyway 'cause IMO it does make sense to overbuild it, at least in "chunks." I typically just max out a node at a time rather than grabbing multiple, but eh

[violet wave]

I love trying to answer questions in screenshots only with default emoji reactions

[white dawn]

@slate lava (re: #screenshots message ) -- Yep, that plan is calling for 2.6667 refineries

You'd use underclocking/overclocking to get that amount. The "simplest" way is 2 at 100% and then another at 66.6667%

(note that the game cannot technically do an exact 2/3rds split; the clocking rounds off at four decimals. That'll be good enough, though)

[slate lava]

damn thats just confusing

[violet wave]

See that isn’t nearly as fun

[slate lava]

scim aint better lol

[hard ivy]

it can. it just has to run at a 2/3 duty cycle at 100% speed

[white dawn]

Honestly, I'd recommend getting used to it. You're gonna see non-whole-numbers of machines pretty often in plans. :D

[white dawn]

Heh, true, it can't do the split exactly with machine settings, but so long as the clock is at least slightly over the target, it'll just eventually idle a bit

(Technically that 0.6667 is 0.0001 over so that'll effectively get you the exact 2/3rds split they want)

[harsh valley]

What causes efficiency to drop in machines?

[white dawn]

Anyway, machine clocking is one of the most powerful tools in the game. Once you're used to working with it, it's lovely. A bit more complex, sure, and some folks don't bother and just keep things clocked to 100% anyway

[hard ivy]

them not running

[harsh valley]

Wdym

[white dawn]

The "efficiency" meter is just the percentage of time that the machine is actively producing (averaged out over the past n minutes/cycles)

If a machine is starving for input, or its output buffer(s) get filled up, it'll idle until it gets what it needs or has room to produce more

[hard ivy]

pretty sure it's no logner called efficiency even. because it's really not

[slate lava]

btw the "stacked" bps on scim are something i could make myself ingame or are they some kinda savegame fuckery?

[green fiber]

Its called Productivity

[lament niche]

I just round up to the nearest rational fraction tbh

[white dawn]

If the efficiency meter is reading 50%, for instance, it's only running about half the time (so maybe it's being underfed by half of what it needs)

As I say, the reported number is an average over time, and it can take some time to catch up when things change. So don't trust it totally, especially if you've just been building or making changes, etc

If you had a resource flow problem and then fixed it, it might take a little while for the number to start approaching reality again

[harsh valley]

Oh Okey

When do get smart plating recipe

[white dawn]

Though after a certain amount of time has passed, it should be basically accurate, so long as your systems are stable

[hard ivy]

part assembly milestone

[peak wasp]

hello hello 😄

can give me un idea of how many iron rod need to use in all recipe ?

i set up a new iron ingot transformer manifacturing and need to know how many produce of . i'm in t3

[hard ivy]

if you mean machines clipped into each other, then no that can only be done with mods or the editor itself

[sullen gull]

7

[worthy hatch]

Are logic gates possible in satisfactory?

[harsh valley]

There are so many screws

[sullen gull]

Not without mods

[hard ivy]

more than 0 probably

[white dawn]

Just make new Iron Rods wherever you need more. Not worth centralizing that, or trying to figure out how much you'll need later on

[slate lava]

ye thought asmuch with a bp using 150 fuel to power 20 mashines lol

[peak wasp]

yes this i understand ahahahah XD

[white dawn]

(IMO that is true essentially irregardless of what part you're talking about, but especially for a basic part like Iron Rods)

[worthy hatch]

I think I can make an non automatic and/ or circuit but that’s the most I can do in vanilla

[hard ivy]

well, I (and nobody else) can say anything more specific

[peak wasp]

oh ok, but in this way i need to destroy all my work ahahah h

[white dawn]

Nah, just leave all your current stuff how it is! It'll keep producing

Just build the new stuff in a new factory, is all. :)

[stark lily]

you can probably make an and gate with an assembler

[white dawn]

There's never any need to tear things down unless you want to. And folks sometimes want to! Just remember it's a choice, not a necessity. It's a huge world out there, with more resources than you probably realize. :)

[worthy hatch]

Build a new one and phase the old one out so there is no down time

[peak wasp]

umhhh yes and no, because i structured all my factory in module.
a factory for wire , a factory for sheet etc etc and i want continue with this method ^^"

[white dawn]

Sure, so when you need more wire, make a new wire module (or a new sheet module, etc). :)

[worthy hatch]

Maybe something with valves and a nuclear power plant

[white dawn]

You're never bound to your past decisions, or your past layouts, or your past locations. You can always just leave that stuff as-is and then do new stuff elsewhere. :)

[worthy hatch]

Limit the water to make a pulsating timer

FLASHING LIGHTS

[lament niche]

I mean, you are bound to past decisions, otherwise you'd be violating the laws of causality

[hard ivy]

I only tear a factory down if I planned to do that when building it. so all pre-steel factories. I always build them quickly to get through the early game faster. but they're an awful, inefficient, foundationless mess and I don't need nor want to keep them

everything I build after coal power stays until the end of the game

[peak wasp]

ah yes yes i reserved the space in the structure for future update of course, but now i set a new iron transformer and not know how many start ^^

then i study the recipe i know and find the target ^^

[white dawn]

What if I'm some kind of extradimensional being who's only extruding into this reality by a little bit? :D

[lament niche]

you're still bound by the dimension known as time

[white dawn]

extradimensional.

[lament niche]

and?

[white dawn]

(implying that I am outside of time as well)

[lament niche]

no. that's not how time works

[white dawn]

Excuse me, are you the extradimensional being slightly extruding into this reality for a laugh?

[peak wasp]

umh i can create a blueprint of NxN foudnation ?

[lament niche]

even tachyons and photons are bound. it's called E=MC^2

[white dawn]

(anyway, enough of that. :)

[hard ivy]

why wouldn't you? sure the N is capped by the BP size, but you absolutely can

[white dawn]

I always recommend just working backwards. If you want to make x/min of a new resource, figure out what you need to do so. Then make that much, in a new factory! Each factory's totally isolated from each other, etc. Still, up to you, of course!

[peak wasp]

umh ok need to retry, because first time i can't place a foundation

[white dawn]

Like x/min of that new resource might require y/min wire, depending on whatever recipes you chose. So you make y/min more wire right inside that factory.

[peak wasp]

oky thanks

[white dawn]

Just one way to play, of course, but it does completely sidestep the otherwise-near-impossible question of "how much x/min of this do I need for the rest of the game?"

[peak wasp]

nono make sense of course. thanks ^__^

i play this game much but is first time i start to create a place "beatiful" of aesthetic XD

[red sun]

what the shit??? apparently my vinyl was just delivered to some place in Germany?

I'm in the UK you melts

I'm incredibly confused

[green fiber]

Might be a routing center ?

[red sun]

yeah that's my first thought

[midnight ocean]

i just unlocked oil production so is it better to make fuel then plastic or plastic then fuel?

[green fiber]

Whats the name of the place.
Nurnberg?

[red sun]

neuenstein or something

I'll just wait and see if anything happens

I'm assuming it's some stopgap of some kind

[green fiber]

Depends on your needs. Fuel from Plastic / rubber byproducts means you get a lot less fuel

Plastic/Rubber from fuel byproducts means you get a lot less plastic

[hard ivy]

"delivered" and "accepted at a sorting center" are usually 2 different tracking messages

[slate lava]

goes hand in hand

[midnight ocean]

ah ok so there is no better one just better/worse depending on needs

[red sun]

it absolutely says delivered which is why I'm confused

GLS says it was delivered at 3:52

[midnight ocean]

i hate how far away crude oil is from me

2.3km is the nearest node

[hard ivy]

there is one most efficient recipe chain for plastic, rubber and fuel, but that uses alts. if you don't have them, then don't worry about efficiency too much. it's gonna be horrible anyway

[shy mulch]

Years ago I used to work for a distillery and like 1% of their orders got shipped to Afghanistan because the dropdown to choose your country didn't fit on the screen so people left it as default when filling out the form....
Took them about 2 weeks to fix it 😄

[red sun]

I'm confused because it says the signature was from some person called Vinny

[midnight ocean]

i cant use the fuel for the moment anyway so ill go for plastic and rubber then maybe pivot after unlocking petroleum power

[shy mulch]

it was @harsh valley

[lament niche]

it doesn't even come close to the elevator. WHY #screenshots message

[red sun]

give me my vinyl back you bitch

smh my head

[lament niche]

my favorite part of the moderation in this discord is how they gave up on even using automod to prevent swearing once they realized 95% of the discord's users work in manufacturing or refining irl

[mortal ginkgo]

safe space can only be so fun tbh

if I am not able to call balancer users noob, who else is there to be called that?

[cunning siren]

Heyyy y'all, sup?

[mortal ginkgo]

still pondering how to stop gathering nuts, I have too much already

how about you my dear gentleman?

[cunning siren]

Eating grapes I forgot to eat yesterday. I wash them in a empty yogurt container 🤷

[red sun]

okay putting the parcel code thing into royal mail it says it's expecting it so I'll wait a bit and see what happens

[shy mulch]

I used to work as a developer, now I work in the finance industry. My first ever client I had in this job I raised the subject of incest while making small talk. Turns out that's not normal in finance.

[cunning siren]

It's common for many "big important" companies to hire a PI to experiment on you when one is first hired 🤷

[frail sleet]

It is still called Efficiency on the hub screen when you unlock it. I learned it that way, and i didn't play til after launch

[shy mulch]

I had a full background check before I started working here, I guess they decided I was worth the risk, since I literally am banned from some areas of business, oops

[leaden turret]

this is like the weirdest thing I've alt-tabbed back to wondering what it has to do with satisfactory

[harsh valley]

Huh

[shy mulch]

I can't even remember where the conversation went this way lol

[cunning siren]

It's my fault, I just woke up, brain on 0% caffeine

[latent meadow]

wish i just did my storage correct form the start

so i didnt have to go back and fix everthing lol

[midnight ocean]

how do i stop my dismantle mode to being blueprint?

[latent meadow]

r

lol

[midnight ocean]

cheers

[latent meadow]

i only alughting took me 200 hours to figure out

that was wat i was doing and it wasnt gliching

[cunning siren]

To make a mistake can offer a learning. Maybe since you learned something there was no mistake at all

[latent meadow]

that true big

wouldn progress further and make bigger and bettter things if i didnt first screw up

[cunning siren]

This is also why those who on average are not aware of when a mistake was made change/grow very slowly

[mortal ginkgo]

this is how humans improve, ones dont make mistakes cant find the correct way to do things,

me on the other hand, always do mistakes to assert my dominance in society

[untold moat]

right, im starting a fresh run of satisfactory, looking for interesting constraints for this run. anyone have any ideas for me?

[cunning siren]

"FICSIT does not waste run": Store or use 100% of all power all the time

[latent meadow]

let just hope i dont scerew up nuclear this time

as much has having 3 arms is fun I dont think it a good talking point at parties

lol

just wish there was an easyer way to meature height when putting down lifts

[untold moat]

a way that you can do it is use 1m walls and alternate colors

[cunning siren]

FICSIT requires use of any extra appendages in it's contractual use of Pioneers

[untold moat]

I'll take it. and as a twist, I will also use modular power systems. lets see how high I can crank the MW

[latent meadow]

lol i didnt see that in the contract

[untold moat]

it was there. page 587 IIRC

[latent meadow]

😮

very very very small font

[cunning siren]

Don't go to high cuz you'll have to build enough storage to never reach 100% batteries 🤷

[untold moat]

my good sir, this is why FICSIT gives us blueprints

[latent meadow]

im shamed to say i do not use blueprints proable as much as i should

[cunning siren]

Will be funny to tear down existing power to meet the challange requirements though 😆

[latent meadow]

im a bad pioeer

[cunning siren]

I guess you can just unplug it

[real wolf]

i need 67 iron for my filter factory🤑🤑🤑

[latent meadow]

finalys storage is done

so many lifts to make the correct hight

i proable did this the hard way tbh

#screenshots think too much work lol

i didnt relize but the side looks werid

some are upwards lifting and then some down

[cunning siren]

The nice thing about building on a celling of a foundation is the Conveyor Ceiling Mounts automatically build and snap to each other. Handy to line up lifts too

[latent meadow]

true

as much as i like belts going acress the area to me sometimes i feel they look messy

if there not alined

with another belt or something

[untold moat]

Remotely Throttleable plants are fun to work with

[cunning siren]

OH right you can use the fancy power switch that can be accessed anywhere

[untold moat]

hell no. I do it the way designed it, with normal power switches. 7 switches and I can throttle any building from between 1% and 100%

[real wolf]

#screenshots message this look good?

[feral geyser]

Explain

[untold moat]

so binary statuses are fun. what you have to do is have a switch that controls 1%, 2%, 4%, 8%, 16%, 32%, and 37% of your theoretical 100% output. so if you had 100 machines, it would control that many machines. then by combining the states of any number of the switches, you can get any number between 0 and 100%

if you don't have 100 machines, you have to fiddle with clockspeeds a bit, but its still the same general idea

[vestal hill]

My brain is too small for this

[untold moat]

<looks at game> interesting choice of entertainment then

[vestal hill]

Hey hey hey just cuz my Brain is small doesn’t mean it doesn’t work

But please wxplain to me in depth when I have time if you’re fine with it I’m curious

[untold moat]

I can explain it more in depth, for sure. just ping me when you want it and what you don't exactly understand about it

[vestal hill]

Oki ty

[feral geyser]

So you're not actually changing speeds or anything, you're just cutting off power to different groupings of machines to get anywhere from 1-100 machines running.

[midnight ocean]

technically would work using fibonacci numbers instead of binary too
no reason to use fibonacci numbers over binary ones but could be fun

[feral geyser]

That seems cool, but i wonder: why?

[midnight ocean]

why does it work or why would you want to?

[feral geyser]

Fun fact: you can use Fibonacci numbers the estimate conversions between miles and kilometers (5mi ≈ 8km)

7 mi = (5+2) mi ≈ (8+3) km

[midnight ocean]

i have written a python program to show that which also outputs a percentage accuracy

[feral geyser]

Nice

[midnight ocean]

i couldnt sleep one day so i just wrote some code around fib stuff

[feral geyser]

You should write one that calculates Pisano periods.

Take the fibonacci sequence mod m, and it will give you a periodic sequence of varying lengths.

You can use the periodicity to make rhythms and music (if you're creative enough)

[midnight ocean]

oh i think ive watched a video about them actually

[feral geyser]

Probably. Numberphile covered them a loooong time ago lmao.

[unkempt blade]

my python just makes automated tests go brrrrr 🙁

[feral geyser]

I have miniscule experience with python.

I remember at one point I wrote code to run the Kollatz algorithm, which is stupid simple.

[untold moat]

essentially, yes.

[untold moat]

out of curiosity if fibonacci was used, how many switches would it take?

[untold moat]

Science isn't about why, its about WHY NOT!

[midnight ocean]

my favourite project was i made a very simple program that generated a random set of numbers, sorted them with either quick sort or bubble sort and then used a bin packing algorithm

[fresh copper]

@slate lava that’s a manifold, so it will be balanced once all but the last two machines inputs are full #screenshots message

[midnight ocean]

not actually sure but if you want i can figure it out for 100 machines

[feral geyser]

Those sort algorithm videos are such good ASMR 🥺

[latent meadow]

i think i gonna run my coal generator on petroleum coke

[untold moat]

just need how many numbers it would be to be able to combine any amount of them to get any natural number between 0 and 100

[midnight ocean]

i think 9 but i could be wrong

[feral geyser]

9 switches (1,2 3,5,8,13,21,34,55)

Should be able to hit from 1-100

[midnight ocean]

and it would actually be able to go up to 142 machines with 9

[untold moat]

gotcha. so while fibonacci could work, Binary is more efficient

[feral geyser]

It's definitely always more than binary

Cuz the fibonacci sequence is roughly φ^n, and φ<2.

[midnight ocean]

yeah fibonacci is more of a interesting version than a useful version for that

[feral geyser]

My mind was blown when I learned about Balanced Ternary (and other balanced radix systems)

[void cliff]

Was reading a science article about another Goldilocks planet… 40 light years away….. sure, it’ll just take 350,000 years to travel there….

[midnight ocean]

or less if we figure out near light-speed travel

[feral geyser]

Unlike standard base three where you have digits [0,1,2], in balanced ternary you have digits [0,1,T], where T represents a place value of -1.
So to write 20, you write 1T1T (27 - 9 + 3 - 1)

[midnight ocean]

thats a cool way of doing it actually

[feral geyser]

Simple unit fractions look really cool

[void cliff]

I bet near-light-speed travel is possible if we figure out how to design the infrastructure for it, just going to require millions of years and massive amounts of matter and energy to make it happen.

[unkempt blade]

that's why it's so important we send smart plating up the elevator using primarily factory carts

[midnight ocean]

if i remember correctly light speed travel is based on distance not displacement and therefore bending space could allow for faster than light travel

[feral geyser]

Yeah, but how do you bend space? Massive amounts of matter (energy) concentrated.

[void cliff]

Theoretical dark matter is just that, theoretical.

[unkempt blade]

ballistic warp drives and lots of nuclear pasta

sorry for the spoiler

[void cliff]

Nuclear propulsion or some kind of railgun cannon are the only things I think could be practical at this moment

[midnight ocean]

but it could be more efficient for near light speed travel than just going fast

[untold moat]

I think you are wrong about the timeline, though I do agree with the massive material and energy requirements

[void cliff]

I was talking specifically about building infrastructure for interstellar near-c travel

[midnight ocean]

i dont think a timeline prediction is possible until we figure out the basic logistics of it since we dont even know if its possible to sustain

[unkempt blade]

I watched a space documentary that says the first faster than light will be in 2063

[void cliff]

What documentary? seems pretty pompous to assume they’re going to bust relativity in 40 years

[unkempt blade]

the documentarians only learned about it because people came back in time to san francisco and helped us learn how to make transparent aluminum

[mortal ginkgo]

no it will be in 2069

[midnight ocean]

its not about busting relativity though its about finding ways around it

[unkempt blade]

star trek the original series

confirmed in the sequel documentary First Contact

[mortal ginkgo]

can those people tell if Half Life 3 is released in the future? I am curious more than FoL travel to a random goofy ahh planet.

[void cliff]

I admit that sci fi regarding space travel would be fairly boring if it all worked within modern physics

[untold moat]

not too sure about that, but commercialized local space travel by then is definitely a possibility

[untold moat]

screw half-life 3, i want Portal 3

[midnight ocean]

i think people are always way too hopeful about commercialised space travel
it will almost certainly be a luxury until we need workers in space

[feral geyser]

Before GTA-- -chokes and dies-

[midnight ocean]

the thing i am excited to see is what deals/wars come about once we have industry in space

[void cliff]

I bet we’d see the apocalypse before we’d see commercialized space travel to another planet in our solar system 🙂

[unkempt blade]

that's true, we have to hang out with the vulcans first for a while but we'll be going places by 2150~

[feral geyser]

I think we should stay the hell away from space industry until we have evolved past some of our worst instincts as a species.

[atomic notch]

We would prolly have to get along a lil better before we can accomplish something that big

[honest ridge]

is there a way to set the time? middle of the day is so bright and night its just impossible to see

[feral geyser]

With a mod

[vestal hill]

So I don’t understand why you need this system

[honest ridge]

ok what mods do that

[void cliff]

Honestly have to unify as a species to even accomplish interstellar space travel and quit squabbling over basic needs and property

[feral geyser]

I don't actually know the name of it. I just know it exists.

[midnight ocean]

we are getting to a state at the moment now that the most powerful corporations can afford their own space agencies so i think eventually there will be a space race among companies instead of countries

[feral geyser]

Imagine Amazon deliveries from space

That would be so fucked

[midnight ocean]

firing them at your door from a satellite

[vestal hill]

Mm

[unkempt blade]

star trek also gives us a template to work from here -- blow each other up with nukes => fight each other over genetic modification => create FTL => meet aliens => hug it out

[void cliff]

Best bet for interstellar travel right now is planet seeding pod toward as many Goldilocks planets as we can find. Might receive radio waves from a planet like that before we ever send a manned mission there.

(Maybe that’s also how life was seeded here, who knows)

[feral geyser]

Honestly, I do still wanna have a Farside Observatory. I think that would be super useful.

[midnight ocean]

i think the most likely scifi setting is cyberpunk

[feral geyser]

And the moon is close enough that we don't have to worry too much about long deep-space travel.

[cunning siren]

Maybe a Wall-E distopia 😆

[feral geyser]

Plus there are plentiful caves for setting up radiation shielded zones to keep people safe.

[unkempt blade]

Personally Farscape is a much more hopeful alternative. In that one we just need to do some gravity stuff around the moon until a wormhole appears and then nothing ever goes wrong again

[cunning siren]

Burger... in a cup 😆

[atomic notch]

Itll be the same as the jump space story line

[vestal hill]

I need to watch WALL-E

[feral geyser]

Quick question: have any of y'all read Dog Star by Arthur C Clarke?

[atomic notch]

Idk how to read

[midnight ocean]

i hope that one day we can colonise and set up a stable environment on mars

[vestal hill]

And that one movie about pressing buttons to shift people’s reputation or whatever lemme search it up

[feral geyser]

If not, please do. One of the best short stories in sci-fi

[feral geyser]

That was a Black Mirror episode.

[vestal hill]

I did the research for a project a while back, with our current technology or slightly advanced (30-50 years) it’d be a pain

[midnight ocean]

and an episode of The Orville

[unkempt blade]

it was also an episode of Community 😆

[cunning siren]

That's not a movie that happens now

[feral geyser]

It seems to be a common anxiety lmao

[midnight ocean]

which one actually came first?

[midnight ocean]

oh yeah im sure but it would be cool

[vestal hill]

I forgot the name but it does exist I’m tryna find it

[midnight ocean]

its in the goldilocks zone as well right?

[cunning siren]

"The Circle" (2017)

[untold moat]

its not so much as a need rather as a want. if you just go by need, satisfactory is a good game. if you start playing with constraints in mind, satisfactory becomes a great game

[cunning siren]

"Nerve" (2016)

"The Box" (2009)

[void cliff]

Mars basically needs a big moon to stabilize its own polarity and atmosphere. A lunar base makes the most sense as a staging area, won’t have to launch from a high gravity/atmosphere environment and its nearby.

[vestal hill]

I think it’s “the Orville” (2017) but I might be wrong

[vestal hill]

Yeah but how does it work

[glad drum]

#screenshots message --- I love my world. I need to start getting more nodes so it can continue the "tentacle monster crashed landed onto the planet" look

[honest ridge]

how do u guys setup ur dimensional depots, i assume a splitter that sinks overflow but most goes into a buffer storage then a dimensional depot?

[glad drum]

OUTPUT >>>SMART SPLITTER>>> STORAGE >>> DIMENSIONAL DEPOT
V
V
V
OVERFLOW
TO SINK

Yes

[honest ridge]

oh yeah cool makes sense

[feral geyser]

Yep, and if you want/need more of that item (like concrete), just make multiple uploaders for it

[honest ridge]

so if ur depot runs out it can instantly restock without waiting for ur production

should i prioritise upload speed or stack size?

[glad drum]

Upload speed imo

[feral geyser]

Uuuuuhhhhh yeah

I did them evenly, but upload speed is good

[glad drum]

And the "uploading from inventory" is really handy

[steady glade]

1 into stack size, 2 into upload speed, 2 into stack size, 1 into upload speed

[honest ridge]

yeah i mean i cant make the computers yet and i dont have enough from crash sites

[hard ivy]

I'd say speed, size, 2x speed, size, speed, 2x size

[feral geyser]

You'll get them, don't trip

Just keep hunting

[glad drum]

One day.

[steady glade]

oops ur right i forgot there are 4 upgrades, not 3

[glad drum]

remember to tie your shoes

[honest ridge]

im pretty sure i just deleteed 3 containers completely full of items but theres no dismantle crates

[steady glade]

they coalesce

[glad drum]

🥁 🥁 🎺 (theres no cymbal)

[steady glade]

look at the map, there should be another one wau away

[zenith pecan]

They should merge into an existing nearby crate.

[feral geyser]

What shoes? I'm a barefooter 😏

[cunning siren]

Tame dem lizzard doggos yo! Walk them back to base and wall there asses in! FREE compooters!

[feral geyser]

(Morgan Freeman voice) He's right, you know

Paleberries for computers and turbo motors? Yes please

[glad drum]

If i haven't unlocked foundations/walls what's the best way to wall in the dooggies

[atomic notch]

They usually just give me garbage

[midnight ocean]

is a space elevator still seen as a possibility for that?

[steady glade]

wait

[steady glade]

technically you could use machines, but its needlessy exppensive

[feral geyser]

Stacks of personal storage boxes

Or storage containers

[cunning siren]

Trick is to set a repeating timer for 8.33 minutes and visit the doggos on that

[feral geyser]

They can't climb the ladders, they're doofy

[glad drum]

Both of these are great ideas --- though personal storage boxes FILLED with paleberries (to feed the doggos) sounds pretty neat

or animal protein to remind them what would happen to them if they tried to escape

[feral geyser]

walls of flesh

Sounds like a death metal band.

[atomic notch]

Sounds like a boss in terraria

[glad drum]

hmm or a conveyor belt of slugs and build a lizard-doggo-betting-racetrack

you know how the dogs chase the rabbit slug

[cunning siren]

History writes about how the Spartans would use the "vanquished enemies" to make massive walls and rivers of demoralization in relation to their enemies path to them 🤔

[feral geyser]

That would be stupidly fun. They should do that, lizard doggos will help you find slugs by walking toward nearby ones.

Talk about (wo)man's best friend

[midnight ocean]

i do wish the lizard doggos were more useful so i didnt have to keep mine trapped to keep him alive

[glad drum]

They'll put in lizard-doggo racing before golf smh

[feral geyser]

By the way, we're all canonically women because FICSIT s a corporation that wants a smaller bottom line, and women have lower average daily caloric needs than men, among many other factors that make them likely more suited to deep-space missions.

[cunning siren]

Trapped?!?! You mean; "Protected from explosive rebar volleys from above?"

[untold moat]

basically its on the premise that if you have two production lines running that are identical, they will produce twice as much as either one individually. so with switches, you can remotely turn the individual sectors on or off, resulting in sectors you can add together. furthermore, if you make it so instead of being identical, each one is bigger than the last one, if you combine a section producing 1 unit of a material with a section that produces 4 units, you now have a net production of 5 units. Binary is the quickest way to climb the numbers without any skips in numbers or repetitions, so you can have 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, then 37 units and you can combine any number of them to get any whole percent between 1 and 100 (4+8+1 = 13, 37+8+2 = 47, etc)

[atomic notch]

Doesnt stop them from consuming as many calories as possible tho

[feral geyser]

Bruh

[cunning siren]

The helmet never comes off so... who knows 🤷

[feral geyser]

Bruh, just look at the character model.

She's Rosie the Riveter

[daring girder]

what did I just walk into?

[glad drum]

Funnily enough, talk of binary and gender.

[feral geyser]

Us discussing how the unnamed silent female protagonist is the greatest.

[glad drum]

Great comedic timing by this group of people

[feral geyser]

We also have a healthy appreciation of Skye Autumn here.

[frigid meteor]

Will there be a satisfactory 2.0?

[feral geyser]

Her and her giant glove

[feral geyser]

God willing

[candid ingot]

what is the circle with the 1 in it next to the build shortcuts in the UI for?

[glad drum]

It indicated which "action bar" / "hot bar" you're on - you can swap through 10 different bars by... I think... pressing Alt and scrolling with your mouse wheel

That way you can customize each bar to whatever you're doing and have one for conveyor building, one for pipes, one for foundations/walls, etc. etc.

[candid ingot]

oh my god that's so usefull

580 hours in btw!

how did I not know that???

[glad drum]

'Cause you're having so much fun, that's how! 🙂

[white dawn]

Unknown. I wouldn't hold your breath for it; if it does happen it won't be anytime soon

[native tapir]

I just saw this. Link me to the tower!

[frigid meteor]

just if its even a possibility, i alreagy gave up on raft

[white dawn]

Maybe they'll jump right to Satisfactory 3.1 For Workgroups!

[candid ingot]

Is there any disadvantage to using the pure aluminum recipie?

[reef basin]

yes, you're getting less aluminum per bauxite

[solar hamlet]

Do I want more pipes or steel beams production for my first steel production?

[hard ivy]

for personal use about equal I'd say

[solar hamlet]

80/60 it is then... because then I dont have to underclock machines 😄

ILl be making encased pipes somewhere else without steel 😄

[unkempt blade]

I usually do more beams to start with because I spam them everywhere when I do mk3 belts

[glad drum]

Steel pipes if you plan on using alternate recipes (and let's be real, you will)

[reef basin]

whichever you need more of

[solar hamlet]

I dont know which I need more yet... I just want to max out one pure node 😄

[unkempt blade]

it's pretty easy to switch from one to the other at that scale if you guess wrong, it's not very many constructors

[reef basin]

yeah build what you need now, ignore future, you'll build things for future in the future

(and I wouldn't really recommend "maxing a node" just for the sake of maxing a node)

[unkempt blade]

yeah do it for those sweet sweet coupons

[native tapir]

Disagree! Max every node!

Make as much as you can. Sink the rest

[feral geyser]

yeah, idk why anyone would say don't max a node

[reef basin]

make what you need, it will still overflow and you will have resources for other projects

[feral geyser]

most of the fun of the game comes from building maximized factories

[unkempt blade]

if you're hard up for power maybe not right away but otherwise...

[feral geyser]

well, sure, but also, then you should be maxing your power veins

[glad drum]

Get the "Encased Industrial Pipe" alternate recipe for Encased Industrial Beams, then you'll only need 30 steel beams a minute for versatile framework (and a bit extra to fill your storage for conveyor use) then the rest can be steel pipes

[feral geyser]

so either way, there's something to max out

[hard ivy]

I make a multiple of whatever 1 machine makes. the node % usage is irrelevant

[glad drum]

Take it from a guy who just built his own steel factory and has a major surplus of steel beams and a shortage of steel pipes 🙁

[feral geyser]

this is true too, it's doesn't have to be a pure max-out, especially if fractions get in the way

[tender raft]

eventually you reach a point where you dont manufacture basically any steel beams whatsoever, always prioritize pipes!

[crisp barn]

the bugs in this game are so annoying sometimes

[reef basin]

yeah, how much you use of a single node is totally not relevant. You're still using same % of the world if you're using one node at 100% or two nodes at 50% (ignoring purity)

[crisp barn]

pipes just refusing to work

[glad drum]

100 emoji react

[solar hamlet]

80 pipes 60 beams uses one full pure node of coal and iron with solid steel ingot... so Im going that. Clear rations no underclocking 😄

[reef basin]

pipes are usually player issue

[crisp barn]

I have 1200/m of resources and 1200/m machine input

yet its still somehow not enough

[feral geyser]

if you built any junctions attached to a vertical section of pipe, chances are they are not working properly

[reef basin]

through single pipe?

[solar hamlet]

There is no way to do overflow before smart splitters is there?

[crisp barn]

2 belts

[reef basin]

technically yes, practically not really

[crisp barn]

6 refineries

Im gonna tell you more

[solar hamlet]

guess Im handcrafting my way through MAM research for a bit 😄

[crisp barn]

I overclocked a node and now its more than 1200/m of resources

yet its still flashing yellow periodically

[hard ivy]

there is a way to kinda do that. by doing a n:1 ratio splitter with a really high n. n/(n+1) will go to the first output and only 1/(n+1) to the other until the first one fills up

[reef basin]

mods?

[crisp barn]

nope

[reef basin]

because there's no way to OC a node over 1200 in vanilla

[crisp barn]

not a single node

multiple nodes combined by mergets

[reef basin]

well then you're limited by belt

[crisp barn]

nope

[feral geyser]

then you didn't overclock a node

[reef basin]

because belt is also capped by 1200/min

[crisp barn]

I put the throughput scanner

it shows all the resource count correctly

[crisp barn]

I did tho

5 nodes, total 1200

I overcloced one of the nodes

so now its 1640(no the accurate number)

[feral geyser]

i'd be willing to wager you are over-merging at some place

[crisp barn]

as I said before, I put the item scanners between refineries to check

[hard ivy]

or didn't wait long enough for manifolds to fill yet

[crisp barn]

all the values match up

[crisp barn]

its been running for 10 hours

[glad drum]

I'm confused so you have 5 nodes outputting 1640 items?

[feral geyser]

on 2 belts?

[crisp barn]

one sec, Im gonna post in #screenshots

[hard ivy]

better use #1038092680493801533 instead

[crisp barn]

Im 99.9% sure its a bug so not much help there

[feral geyser]

i'm 99.9% sure it's not

[solar hamlet]

AI limiters aquired... time to go and build that factory 😄

[hard ivy]

yeah, the only possible bug is mk6 doing like 1199.5 instead of 1200

other than that belts are bug free afaik

at least as far as item transport is concerned

[reef basin]

very likely it's not. And even if it was, putting it in #1038092680493801533 is still fine

[feral geyser]

gimme the breakdown, how much is coming from each source?

i assume you are trying to get two equal belts?

[uncut ore]

does steel coated plate disappeared as its exist in https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Iron_Plate

[feral geyser]

ewww, fandom

Steel Cast Plate is a recipe, and Coated Iron Plate is a recipe, but Steel Coated is not

[reef basin]

don't link old wiki please 🙂

[latent meadow]

does junctions affect the flow from a pump

[crisp barn]

made a post in that channel

[reef basin]

pump doesn't really give flow, only headlift

[latent meadow]

wat the diffence

[reef basin]

headlift = how high the fluid can go

[uncut ore]

but i had recipe like steel ingot and plastic at assembler and i got iron plate

[feral geyser]

no, you are mixing up two recipes

[feral geyser]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Iron_Plate

Steel Cast Plate -> Foundry -> 1 Iron Ingot + 1 Steel Ingot = 3 Iron Plates
Coated Iron Plate -> Assembler -> 5 Iron Ingot + 1 Plastic = 10 Iron Plates

the second one is the one you're thinking of

[uncut ore]

https://ibb.co/Hp1y2hrV

it was before updates

[feral geyser]

then it doesn't exist anymore

[uncut ore]

damn they will not bring it back?

[feral geyser]

probably not

[solar hamlet]

Is it possible to mirror building?

[feral geyser]

not without a mod

[unkempt blade]

depends if the building fits in the blueprinter 😄

[feral geyser]

the coated Steel recipe was removed at 1.0 and replaced with the two separate recipes i shared with you

[solar hamlet]

are... are the foundries supposed to float? 😄

[feral geyser]

no?

[uncut ore]

need to remove now and make those iron ingot then ok

i have question why i dont see iron nodes in map?

[unkempt blade]

there's no gravity/stability for structures if that's what you're asking

[feral geyser]

you have radar towers?

[uncut ore]

https://ibb.co/nN5LbNZ8
You see the tower is on the right, straight ahead is an iron ore node.
https://ibb.co/bMYPP1Xg
here is map that missing iron ore node

yeah one close to that node

but there is no iron node in list

[solar hamlet]

because the ones I placed are... floating 😄 #screenshots

[feral geyser]

you could send pics in #screenshots

[feral geyser]

are you playing an older version of the game?

[uncut ore]

no im on 1.1

[feral geyser]

hmmm weird

cuz there are 4 iron nodes there

and a geyser in that little lake

but none of them are showing

is the radar tower powered?

[uncut ore]

yes its powered and those recipies that i have unlocked gone, and now i tooked all hard drives

[feral geyser]

hmmm. i have no idea. maybe just rebuild the tower?

[uncut ore]

i powered it with wireless power, its like mod

[feral geyser]

that might be the problem then, just use regular power connectors

[uncut ore]

but when i click on tower there is no iron node either

[feral geyser]

maybe the mod is broken

[uncut ore]

another question, does geothermal generator work?

[reef basin]

modding questions are better to be asked on modding discord

[harsh valley]

I saw a smart plate factory tutorial today

Ima try to replicate it from memory tomorrow

[reef basin]

I'd recommend playing the game on your own and not following tutorials like that

[harsh valley]

It was just to see how other people organize their factories

Since I haven't even done the First phase yet and i already got loads of spaghetti

Call it, seeking inspiration

[uncut ore]

where i can find those?

[feral geyser]

You just place a generator on it and it makes power in a sine wave shape

[uncut ore]

i cant place one, because it dont see nodes too 😄

[feral geyser]

Bruh

You have some crazy mods on then.

You'll have to ask in the modding discord.

I did see you have at least Refined Power and FICSIT Farming (i, too, enjoy kidnapping doggos)

[clever merlin]

i swear this world is getting so glichy

i got belts that randomly stop feeding i gettign trucks that randomly just stop as soon as i walk over to them they start up and go agin

filters that radomly start and stop working wtf

[uncut ore]

never had such thing maybe its your video card issue

[latent meadow]

how does a video card affect a truck from going when not even in my redner distance have anything to do with it

[frail sleet]

blueprinter is not capable of symmetry unfortunately! You need to make multiple blueprints from scratch to make a symmetrical output

[heavy pine]

You know what would be awesome for blueprints? Dynamic belts, where you say "when placing this blueprint, use whatever is the fastest belt available."

[solar hamlet]

Encased pipes recipe is avoiding me like the plague 😄

[cunning glade]

Why do refineries have too be so tall

Either I have too build incredibly tall or I need too have the refinerys out of the main building

Or be okay with the top clipping

[lavish lance]

Would be a big feature if css managed to add that

I wanted that since day 1

[cunning cloud]

hi will Satisfactory on ps5 will be on cd or just on digitel in the ps5 store

[atomic notch]

Just looked it up doesnt look like it

[frail sleet]

they're not the only ones! Give em double floors

Like, a floor can be 5-6 foundations tall normally, but 10-12 if refineries are planned

[cunning cloud]

will Satisfactory have holloween event like they have christmas items

[atomic notch]

“

[heavy pine]

They haven't had a Halloween event so far. Perhaps that could change in the future, but as far as I know nothing like that has even been teased, let alone announced.

[cunning cloud]

they can have it the week of holloween

[latent meadow]

does the boombox acultyd o damage to emeys with hit left click lol

sorry right click

[sullen gull]

Rgw bass boots will hatcher flies and knock other fauna back. Or scare off steve

[latent meadow]

lol

i love it ❤️

[sullen gull]

But, do you also like it? Do you want some more of it? 😏

[latent meadow]

yes....

[sullen gull]

Do you try so hard, and just can't rise above it?

walks aways now.

[manic topaz]

I tried so hard and got so far

because in the end
it doesn't even matter

[sullen gull]

Oh, wait, changing it up 🤣

Goin from some Tim Mcgraw to Metallica 😏

[manic topaz]

what

[placid stirrup]

Tim Mctallica

[manic topaz]

it's linkin park

[sullen gull]

Oh, yeah .. ok them ... Tim Park

[latent meadow]

is the explosive rebar the same power as the nobeilisk

in exlosive power

[sullen gull]

I think it's a tad less. Seems to be anyways when using it to "prune" some flora 🤣

[latent meadow]

i been blowng up rocks

aroudn my route so my trucks dont get stuck on it

lol

that and killing wildlife if i see them

[feral geyser]

They are the same (50 dmg)

[latent meadow]

oh nice

[sullen gull]

I still feel the radius is less though 🤣

[feral geyser]

Maybe? I dont think so though

Either way, I have all weapons available on demand, cuz automating munitions is hella fun.

[latent meadow]

yea

i agree