satisfactory

[limpid cairn]

There’s the issue

Start using factory carts

[cunning glade]

Huh

[unkempt blade]

all the cool kids are doing it!

[leaden sphinx]

any beginner tips? i just bought the game

[hard ivy]

just play the game

[gusty temple]

Place fondations as soon as you start being able to, they make your factory look nicer

[unkempt blade]

once you unlock factory carts build a skatepark for them

[versed mesa]

Really lmfao

[unkempt blade]

ya it's excellent beginner advice

[versed mesa]

Awesome lol

[rustic hare]

definitely spam them out, makes your world lively

[gusty temple]

More seriously, almost all ressources in the game are fully renewable so don't stress about quantity and think in terms of quantity/minute
And when you unlock a building, mess around with it until you understand it

[hard ivy]

no. they're (mostly) trolling. factory carts only have 1 slot and are only functional for very low transfer rates

[gusty temple]

Why would that mean you shouldn't build a skatepark though

[versed mesa]

What am after doing in the designer is create R shape rail but not cap R but its like your going straight be also it has a curve too it because I want it to go across if I want to go to the oil depot because am building oil storage depot but will also keep used fir producing some products that I need

[white dawn]

That said, if you add multiple factory carts to the same route, depending on the specific item stacksize, you can get some pretty decent throughput on a cart-run route

[unkempt blade]

very high transfer rates! #screenshots message

[versed mesa]

So we can only own 1

[white dawn]

I can't remember if it was between mk3+mk4 or mk4+mk5 for 100-stack items; been awhile

[shy mulch]

best beginner tip is don't copy anything I've done unless you really want to book in for surgery to have your brain removed

[unkempt blade]

good call, build the brain removal structure before you forget how to do it

[versed mesa]

Do your own style

[shy mulch]

how did you get 16k/min transfer rate on a truck station

[gusty temple]

Lots of factory carts

[atomic notch]

Beginner tips? Juzt play it lol

[unkempt blade]

it was empty to start with, it would be gated by belt speed given enough time

[shy mulch]

aha gotcha

[atomic notch]

Its not that hard

[versed mesa]

Plays it at your own style simple but its still no harm asking fir help and advice

[white dawn]

An individual Truck Station would be limited by the loading time; if you add enough carts (or whatever) to a route, they'll end up patiently lining up and waiting while the one ahead of them loads

So there is definitely a cap to throughput with factory carts, once that waiting period exceeds the time it takes to fill up a complete stack

[unkempt blade]

I've got a screenshot for this too because it comes up when we talk about this a lot 😆 #screenshots message

[hushed inlet]

I like trains

https://tenor.com/view/funny-iliketrains-trains-gif-4905803

[cunning glade]

I've discovered a flaw in my plan

[hushed inlet]

Wdym by that

[cunning glade]

So I figured u could have empty train carts and weren't forced too load or unload them

[shy mulch]

you can, what's the problem?

[hushed inlet]

Uhh yes what?

[cunning glade]

Oh I don't have enough sleep too explain this

[hushed inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[hushed inlet]

Sleep it’s already 23:00 at night for me

[cunning glade]

But basically I have a factory that's making computers and needs rubber and plastic

[shy mulch]

You're 8 hours ahead of me. What's it like in the future?

[hushed inlet]

Nighttime not much but it’s the start of autumn

[cunning glade]

I was gonna have the same station unload rubber and plastic and then load computer and send them

[hushed inlet]

But

What happen

[cunning glade]

Issue is I can't have the carts before the computers empty

[shy mulch]

you can do that, just not in the same carriages

[shy mulch]

why not?

[fiery lotus]

I just realised our timezone is strange after all these years living here lol

[cunning glade]

Cuz my factorys that make rubber and plastic unload rubber or plastic into all 4 containers

[hushed inlet]

Conveyor belts is easy

[shy mulch]

well don't put it into all 4 then?

[fiery lotus]

"What do you mean 8? Who is 8? Isn't that open ocean?"

[shy mulch]

or make the train a bit longer

[cunning glade]

Well too late unfortunately

[shy mulch]

wdym?

[cunning glade]

I could do this

[hard ivy]

use another train? I wouldn't even put plastic and rubber into one train, nevermind even comuters on top of that

[unkempt blade]

you should keep the train for plastic/rubber and set up a factory cart route for the computers since you'll be moving fewer of those

[hushed inlet]

I wish winter had more snow

[fiery lotus]

I'm in Spain and it's 16:00, why are we on GMT+2

[hushed inlet]

TIME ZONES

[shy mulch]

I'm not in same time zone as you

[fiery lotus]

Shouldn't we be on GMT or +1

[fiery lotus]

Exactly, we should be

This has to be something to do with transport infrastructure

[shy mulch]

In Spain you are GMT+1 in winter, and GMT+2 in summer

It is cultural

[unkempt blade]

we should just use the same timezone everywhere and make places decide on local schedules using that time

[hushed inlet]

It’s late summer/VERY early autumn

[cunning glade]

I think I'll figure it out idk tbh I should've slept

It's already almost noon

Wtf

[gusty temple]

That's what GMT is

[fiery lotus]

I am aware but I am suddenly even more aware that we should never be GMT+2, geographically

[unkempt blade]

and yet I'm trapped here in a +5 offset!

[hushed inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/hayır-olamaz-lego-gif-7647030352230915501

[shy mulch]

You used to be. Franco changed it during WW2 to be same as Germany time zone because he wanted to be friends with them

[gusty temple]

Well yeah
That +5 is the local schedule that was decided :p

[hushed inlet]

POV you just lost your important items

[hushed inlet]

POV you just lost your gazillion power slugs Mercer spheres and summer sloops by falling into the abyss

[cunning glade]

Wait maybe this will work I need too go checkout my rubber setup

[cloud sigil]

i have a quick question, how long did it take you all to reach stage 5?

[gusty temple]

One of my friend currently has a slug and a sphere stuck in the stratosphere from climbing on the rocket

[hushed inlet]

Jeez

[fiery lotus]

This makes sense

[gusty temple]

I take it badly
Crying, yelling, etc

More seriously what's your question exactly x)

[hushed inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/fall-the-lich-lich-king-adventure-time-litch-gif-3630070497349253076

[fiery lotus]

I haven't I've been too busy messing around & making things pretty

Think I've been playing a couple months

[gusty temple]

Aah
Depends on how much goofing around you do, it's about ~200-300 hours on a first blind playthrough afaik

[cloud sigil]

oh jeez, how many hours

[unkempt blade]

the closer you get to stage 5 the further away you are from finishing it

[gusty temple]

Pretty long game, saying it like that x)

[cloud sigil]

all of you guys responses remind me of ada

wtf

[cunning glade]

I realistically should sleep and come back and could figure this out but I'm gonna just figure it out now

[fiery lotus]

227.1hr according to Steam, can't check in-game right now because I had to make room for a bunch of scientific data on my drive lol

[hushed inlet]

Why is every carnivore just targeting you for some reason they KNOW that they can eat OTHER predators right? RIGHT?

GG I gotta sleep man

[cunning glade]

Ur less work

[cloud sigil]

america?

[unkempt blade]

that's insulting, I'm definitely not a chatbot who was fed context instructing it what opinions to have about factory carts

[hushed inlet]

Good knight?

[gusty temple]

Gang affiliations

[fiery lotus]

They do fight each other though

[hushed inlet]

I have a rebar gun and a thing

[cloud sigil]

is the cybertruck any good now that you say that?

unlocked it by accident
or pure intent ig

[gusty temple]

Honestly who says they're not herbivores though
The spiders attack everything else but the rest could just be pigs and deers

[cloud sigil]

do you know what the beef between spiders and hogs is?
i was getting molested by a spider and it suddenly aggroed the hogs

[unkempt blade]

no, it's a meme both in the game and in real life

[cloud sigil]

so i shouldnt waste my tickets

[gusty temple]

It's a toy for grown ups with something to prove

[vocal wolf]

guys hear me out
what if the "planet" we're extracting, exploiting and automating is just a training field, hence why its tiny and the cliffs that stretch into oblivion

[cloud sigil]

i just reached like 550 tickets, and the increase in tickets is gross

[ashen belfry]

I think 300-350h.
Some of that was building a big power plant though. 750GW.

[gusty temple]

Tickets aren't rare enough you can't use a few on going vroom vroom in a silly car though

[cloud sigil]

WHAT
you got a screenshot of it perchance?

[left totem]

stage 4 was the most fun imo, but stage 5 wouldnt have been half bad if I hadn't been worn out at that time

[fiery lotus]

I always wanted one of these mini cars, partly because it's the only class of vehicle I'll ever be able to afford

[ashen belfry]

My power plant? Probably

[cloud sigil]

i really really want the golden nut tho

[gusty temple]

fair

[cloud sigil]

i need to see what on earth you have done to achieve 750gw

i was proud using a couple hours on a turbofuel plant generating 50k mw

you just crushed my dreams

[gusty temple]

That's 150 nuclear plants if my math is mathing

[unkempt blade]

with how tall trucks and SUVs are getting I doubt they'll even see those over the hood soon 🙁

[hard ivy]

max uranium nuclear is already 630 GW
add 120 GW of RF and you're there

[vocal wolf]

my solid biofuel "power plant" doesnt even generate 400 mw 😭

[cloud sigil]

factory cart and mk6 conveyor belt is typing

[ashen belfry]

#screenshots message

[cloud sigil]

only person i could think of using that kind of power is kibitz

[cunning glade]

I love when this game tells me a conveyer belt is invalid even tho it should clearly work

[fiery lotus]

No one here has either trucks or SUVs it's all old work vans & light vehicles

[unkempt blade]

truly a paradise

[cloud sigil]

holy

[hard ivy]

I made that kind of power (and more) three times before, but yeah, I never used this much before

[fiery lotus]

The real tragedy is people pointing and laughing at your road cart though

[cloud sigil]

let me take a guess, yall get hella females

[cunning glade]

So

I've glitched myself

[versed mesa]

Could someone look in screenshots and let me know if my first blueprint looks fine please

[ashen belfry]

2017 generators.
3 floors
54 blenders iirc
6k coal and sulfur each I think

[cunning glade]

Idk even everytime I hop out of the water it opens the build menu then I fall back in jump up same thing

[cloud sigil]

is it ionized?

[versed mesa]

Its happening to me also

[ashen belfry]

No.
Built it before stage 9

[cloud sigil]

my god

[fiery lotus]

Almost [current year] generators need a few more

[cloud sigil]

oh yeah, ive been having a huge problem with pipe sloshing, i have enough turbofuel to supply my generators, but still some wont get the fuel

[ashen belfry]

Whole "building" is bigger than the blue cratee

[fiery lotus]

Now if you're really cool you'll dress the whole building up like an enormous engine assembly

[ashen belfry]

Had similar issues. Kinda fixed it though by building more pipes than I need

[unkempt blade]

how many factory carts for all of that?

[cloud sigil]

more pipes = more better good?

[ashen belfry]

You don't run into the MK2 issue with 600m2 throughput

[unkempt blade]

that's also why I move all my liquids with factory carts

[cloud sigil]

guess what

[unkempt blade]

factory cart

[ashen belfry]

#screenshots message

[cloud sigil]

factory fart

[fiery lotus]

These pipes are evil

[cloud sigil]

thats a lot of pipe

[fiery lotus]

Wicked, even

[placid stirrup]

Nah they're like the house centipede, just misunderstood

[reef basin]

If you're happy with it, it's fine

[reef basin]

Because mk2 specific issues do not exist 🙂

[versed mesa]

Thanks i am and am not lol

[azure scarab]

how do I get my freight platform to load cargo onto freight car?

[unkempt blade]

is it on load mode?

[cunning glade]

Ah yes me when I pass the station I'm supposed too be going too

Let's see what dumb shit it's gonna try and do

[azure scarab]

yeah

[cunning glade]

I've gone in a circle?

[sharp mantle]

Nearest coal deposit is 800 tiles away, am i supposed to make a long conveyor belts just to transport it...?

[cunning glade]

so instead of it turning left and just flicking the little arrow on the track it decides too do a full circle on autodrive neat

[ashen belfry]

Use a truck or tractor

Or build a conveyor belt

[sharp mantle]

Haven't unlocked it, but I'm working on it

What's up with it?

[ashen belfry]

Is it for steel?
It's kinda fine to build an outpost right there. You don't need that much early on

[cursive phoenix]

Fr

[autumn flume]

hey how do you mute the party music in the hub help

[fiery lotus]

turn music to 0

[sharp mantle]

Coal generator

[autumn flume]

doesnt the game also have music?

[gusty temple]

That doesn't help actually

[sharp mantle]

Can't use biomass forever

[autumn flume]

can i not just mute that thing

[fiery lotus]

oh no

mute the game i guess

[gusty temple]

You can't, you gotta disable seasonal events

[ashen belfry]

Use nodes in vicinity of the water

[gusty temple]

(yeah it's annoying)

[sharp mantle]

What?

[ashen belfry]

Cuz u still need water for coal power and transporting coal is easier than water.
Try to find some coal near water

[sharp mantle]

I do live close to water

A giant lake

[gusty temple]

They're saying that you don't need to transport the coal to the hub, but to water
Then a simple power line can carry the power everywhere

Building centrally is generally not a great plan

[fiery lotus]

I just made a large water extraction facility that delivers (packaged) water where it's needed via train

[cunning glade]

Omg

I hate everything

[ashen belfry]

You only build a few coal gennies at the beginning and unlock better power generation later on.
Just build it wherever it's the best spot.

[cunning glade]

There's a settings tabs for unloading shit

[sharp mantle]

I know, the biggest reason I'm trying to build one is to learn how it works

[cunning glade]

I'll re do the train tomorrow but omg

[fiery lotus]

You will still need water extraction though

[ashen belfry]

Considering he is only at coal currently that's not viable.
However pretty nice to have later on if you need water

[fiery lotus]

I suppose
I did actually make my rail stations before oil lol

I just looted the needed components from exploration

[ashen belfry]

Than just belt it.

[fiery lotus]

You can loot a frighteningly large amount of high end components in one trip by using the dimensional depot

& liquid biofuel gets you where you need to go (you do need steel canister though.)

[mystic island]

Man I just watched a video about Alfred Nobel's life. From his sickly youth, to his economic ascension in creating various explosives and his end, creating the Noble prize, giving almost all his fortune away in the mission to support research and peace instead of being remembered as a merchant of death.

And then we have Ficsit handling us cute explosives called Nobelisks lmao

[cunning glade]

Okay if this train works I'll be done

And that's 15 computers a min

[ashen belfry]

Or find other coal close to water.
I suppose you started in the default region.
There is this nice spot where you can build a nice coal setup for the beginning #screenshots message

[cunning glade]

Hate grass fields tbh

[ashen belfry]

Yeah. So many low purity nodesw

[cunning glade]

Northern Forest is the best imo

[hard ivy]

nah too little space to build

[cunning glade]

U get 100 reinforced plate which is perfect for getting a factory going

[cunning glade]

Build floating and then connect it later

[fiery lotus]

I just built vertically

Then you can either abandon it or turn the initial vertical slice into a logistics elevator up to the real building (Ficsit does not waste)

[cunning glade]

Northern forest is just goated

[unkempt blade]

he should have stuck to factory carts instead of explosives

[gusty temple]

The northern forest "crater" is a fun starting point, love how much iron you have

[cunning glade]

Okay computers automated

Next is hmf and then I think I can start phase 3 stuff

Have just the 500 and 100 left forget there names

[outer hatch]

What happens if you keep scanning hard drives without ever claiming the rewards? Once you hit remaining-recipes/2, does the MAM simply not let you scan? (Hypotethical question... for now)

[soft pasture]

#satisfactory-memes message I just bhop around the pole because I’m not building towers

[hard ivy]

yeah, it tells you that no more rewards are available and doesn't take your drive

[cunning glade]

Does main bus work in this game

[hard ivy]

yes, though not very well

[bronze oriole]

says you can´t scan harddrive

[cunning glade]

What I figured

[carmine aspen]

so dont press f12 while in photo mode

[bronze oriole]

there is a video of a factorio player playing satisfactory and it´s a charm

[cunning glade]

Is it the one n with the vtuber too?

[bronze oriole]

don´t think so

no he has facecam

[cunning glade]

Lil indigestion?

That's who I'm watching now

It's fun so far but him not using foundations till 10 hours in hurt

[bronze oriole]

he didn´t use them neither

he just stacks conveyers ontop of each other

[cunning glade]

Psyche897 is who I watched before

[bronze oriole]

thats the 1 i mean

[cunning glade]

Idk who else I've watched recently

[cunning glade]

Yeah the one with a vtuber

Too my knowledge the girl with him is a vtuber

Unless I understood wrong

Or same concept 🤷

[fiery lotus]

i wasn't even a factorio player and this is what i did at first, i made a giant skyway of conveyors (then i realised i shouldn't)

[bronze oriole]

only watched the first episode

[cunning glade]

This game made me play Factorio

And it's peak

Once me and my friend finish this it's onto that then the dlc then the space age mod pack

[reef basin]

not really. It "works" as in "is possible to build", but that's about it

[cunning glade]

If I'm making 10 Smart plating a min it's a good idea too route that up into a modular engine manufacturers at this point I assume?

[bronze oriole]

well i sometimes use it when i make multiple modular production but that´s about it

[cunning glade]

I need computers and circuits dang

What's hmf main comp

Limestone right

[hard ivy]

iron

[bronze oriole]

steel concrete and iron

[cunning glade]

Ig fair

[hard ivy]

with alts you don't need steel

[cunning glade]

I was looking at flexible yeah

[hard ivy]

ew

use encased

[unkempt blade]

screws if you want to be cool

[bronze oriole]

because encased beams need steel and concrete
modular frames only iron
screws only iron
steel pipe steel

[cunning glade]

Ight prolly easiest too just up the production of my steel plant and train it and then train it too where I make these

[bronze oriole]

i use the alt rec for concrete steel pipe modular frames and encased beams

[reef basin]

ew, use flexible

[cunning glade]

As I have a lot of unused coal and iron at my steel plant

[reef basin]

I'd recommend procuing things where you need them

[bronze oriole]

and also use encased pipes =)

[cunning glade]

It's currently only used too make flexible framework and automated wiring and basic steel stuff

[cunning glade]

Well hmf I'm gonna make a good amount of them just train/drone eventually

Cuz that's what I just did with computers

Made 15 a min

[reef basin]

if you build near nodes, you don't need to train/drone it 😉

[cunning glade]

I mean I am but it's easier too just make another factory

[reef basin]

another factory... near nodes 😉

[cunning glade]

No spoilers but I assume I get mk3 miners soon and that prolly calls for a big re do of home base

[hard ivy]

"soon"

[cunning glade]

Yeah that's the plan but I already have a plant making steel and I can have it make a lot more and then train it there

[hard ivy]

... sure

[cunning glade]

Too where I have alot of limestone although where it's at might have enough hold

[bronze oriole]

phase 4

[cunning glade]

Bro can't read

[reef basin]

yeah I wouldn't just build things ahead of time that way, but it's your save 🤷

[hard ivy]

if you don't want spoilers you shouldn't even be here tbh

[cunning glade]

It's making steel that's being used but it can make more

I mean I normally don't mind

but I legit was like no spoilers

[slate lava]

are the "stacked" bps on scim doable ingame or is it some bug / saveeditor kinda thing?

[reef basin]

ew shorts

[cunning glade]

All he had too do was ||This text is a spoiler||

I ain't upset I assumed so anyways just preferred not knowing if I was right or not

[real wolf]

what yall think :> #screenshots message

[feral geyser]

That's reasonable. I was trying to avoid spoilers my first time too, and my friend told me ||oh my god I cant believe you feel for it, you're such a tool.||

[granite lark]

Which phase are drones in

[cunning glade]

I wanna say 7 or 8

Oh phase

I can read

[granite lark]

oh is that tier?

[cunning glade]

So hyped too deal with concrete again cuz I have pure

[cunning glade]

Ye

Would be cuz I'm 5 and 6 RN at 3

[versed mesa]

I teyed to creat my first blueprint but its not clipping onto a station for some reason and it never added to my category I created for it

I mite just download some rail blueprints

[cunning glade]

Does limestone become more needed down the line

[cunning glade]

This or a megaprint is nice

[versed mesa]

Its always needed to make concrete and use it for other stuff

[shy mulch]

Yes

[versed mesa]

Yeah thats what I need ill be there to long and not get anywhere i want something instantly

[cunning glade]

Now one assumes 15 a min for hmf is a decent amount?

[placid stirrup]

Pretty respectable

[rare thunder]

ok chat how do i get 2 satisfactory keys to play coop with my friends

i am considering theft and robbery

[hard ivy]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/526870/Satisfactory/

[feral geyser]

Mods

[placid stirrup]

#rules

[cunning glade]

A job💯

[feral geyser]

Oop forgot the tag

[rare thunder]

i cant do that or else i wont be considered a girlfailure anymore

[cunning glade]

[shy mulch]

there's a pretty cool method, what you do is you go to steam, log in, find satisfactory, and buy it

[feral geyser]

It will not interfere, you will always be a failure

[rare thunder]

typical feet fan

[versed mesa]

I made a line rail and added curve onto it following another little line to try fit a shape needed to turn around by going forward if I want to and maybe I want to collect some oil from the storage depot what am working on building next to my oil factory so basically kind of 2 oil factories with rails in the middle of both factories

[shy mulch]

I just noticed that the material cost of foundations is different depending on the material you have selected, really doesn't affect me just amazed it took me this long to notice it haha

[placid stirrup]

This is 16/min
#screenshots message

[feral geyser]

That's why people love the concrete/asphalt ones, no need for plates.

[cunning glade]

I might do 16.85

That gives me 6 machines

This may just be a whole new factory tbh

That's a lot of mats

Computers was easy

[shy mulch]

by the time you're placing enough foundations for it to even matter, surely you'd be producing plenty of those things anyway, so it shouldn't ever really have an impact

[feral geyser]

It makes a big difference if you unlock them early game

[shy mulch]

do the amount you need, what are you producing them for

[cunning glade]

Too hold ur mom up

[versed mesa]

Where do I go to download blueprints and look at them please ?

[cunning glade]

Sorry

Well for now space parts for phase 3

But I wanna overproduce so I don't need too worry then upgrade down the line if needed

[rare thunder]

feet expert and doesn't even have a feet tag

[cunning glade]

Plus I can just train them around very easily

[shy mulch]

you don't need any HMF for phase 4, elevator do you?

oh, you do, for nuclear pasta, my bad

[hard ivy]

and ACUs for ADSs

but idk why would you automate SE parts

just handfeed them from storage

[shy mulch]

Aha right enough. Just had a look, total of 1900 HMF needed for phase 4 elevator including all tier 7 and 8 milestones.
Honestly I'd just build one manufacturer with 4 industrial storages in front of it, add 4 sloops and 3 shards, fill the storages with the necessary things and come back to it in a couple hours

[cunning glade]

wrong number

3

but if needed for next phase then even more of a reason too do it now

only downsides are its mk2 instead of mk3

but i can always upgrade later

[feral geyser]

I don't wear any tags except toe tags

Also, where is that tag from?

[rare thunder]

click on it

[shy mulch]

the amount needed is so low, I'd just make 1 machine and put storages in front of it with the things you need, leave it for a little while and come back and it's all done. if you wait and automate it later once you have higher tier things to work with, then you can make it bigger and easier

[cunning glade]

But that's not fun

[hard ivy]

but it's efficient

[cunning glade]

I don't think it'll be that hard rn

[hard ivy]

but since tier 5/6, I just build everything as I unlock it. next tiers mostly just give faster belts, and that's not enough of a benefit for me to wait with automation

[feral geyser]

Eh. Besides, F.E.E.T. means something different from "feet"

[rare thunder]

boooooring

[feral geyser]

F.E.E.T. = Forward Exploration and Examination Team

We're the branch of factory operations tasked with finding new sights and sites around the planet, and bringing home the bacon (agaric).

[rare thunder]

megaboring

why dont you bring home some bitches

[cunning siren]

Heyyy y'all ❤️ sup?

[shy mulch]

Could also mean Fungal Exuberance Expert Tactician

[feral geyser]

We do bring lizard doggos, and I'm sure some are female?

[rare thunder]

🎋

[cunning siren]

"My milk feet brings all the girls to the yard"

OH wait that was the other feet guy

[feral geyser]

Milky feet? 👀

[rare thunder]

?

[shy mulch]

I left my lizard doggos for so long they formed two factions based on a radical religion where they worship waterfalls, one side developed ficsonium power and wiped out the other faction and enslaved the nuclear spiders, and now 35% of my map is too dangerous to build in. Does anyone know how to fix this?

[feral geyser]

Dam all the waterfalls

[cunning siren]

#satisfactory message

[feral geyser]

Honestly though, worshipping waterfalls is one of the less crazy bases of religion I've ever heard.

[silk ivy]

how does power work for train stations? do u just power the 2 stations and it powers it the whole way?

[hard ivy]

you only need to power one side. rails transfter power

[silk ivy]

my thing keeps derailing i have no idea why

[feral geyser]

It's hitting something

[silk ivy]

the rail is just a straight line

let me show u

oh wait no pic perms

[versed mesa]

There's some cool blueprint designs out there

[feral geyser]

Also, while you can send power through rails, I suggest still using power towers to transfer power too, cuz if you ever need to rebuild the train line, you won't interrupt power.

[feral geyser]

#screenshots

[silk ivy]

its derailing at that specific spot for whatever reason

[hard ivy]

rails are probably not connected there

just placed next to each other

[harsh valley]

Even after my 3rd save i still forgot how to use a chainsaw

[silk ivy]

oh yeah ur right

[versed mesa]

Damn for real lmfao

[silk ivy]

there's so many disconnected rails i was using blueprint auto conncet idk why it's like that

[cunning siren]

Many poems with a spiritual message have been written about water 🤷 🤔

Even Alan Watts famous analogy uses water

[harsh valley]

It feels so nice when you finally get the copper iron and limestone system working

You can finally concentrate on crafting and less on gathering recourses

[vestal hill]

ikr

[feral geyser]

Put 5 depots on concrete and forget about it

[frozen shoal]

Be nice if devs actually fixed bugs and actually did something to improve the game instead of making it more unstable. Just sayin.

[feral geyser]

Also, shouldn't it be "Winny Widi Wici"? 😏

[harsh valley]

Why w?

[shy mulch]

Seems perfectly stable for me. What issue are you experiencing?

[feral geyser]

Ancient Latin pronunciation

[harsh valley]

Pronunciation ≠ spelling

[feral geyser]

I know, it was a joke 😭

[shy mulch]

Romani Eunt Dommus? Domum? Conjugate the verb... oh never mind

[harsh valley]

I knew feet expert wasn't out knowing me in latin

[cunning siren]

Mah 1080 hates DX12 🤷 DX11 fixed that though 🤔

[harsh valley]

A fellow traumatized Latin student?

[shy mulch]

Just a monty python fan

[harsh valley]

Fair enough

[feral geyser]

I am not a Latin expert, but I know my Greek alphabet (because of math)

And i know my Hebrew because of 3 years of Hebrew school when I was younger

[shy mulch]

You know your greek Alpha Beta 😛

Aleph Bet Gimmel Daled

I II III IV V

Oon Doo Trah Kat 😮

Eins Zwei Drei Vier

[zenith pecan]

Huh?

[shy mulch]

Never been a fan of French

[zenith pecan]

I couldn't do french, four years of trying lead me to failure.

[shy mulch]

I only know two things in Spanish
Una mesa paro quattro por favor
Dos cerveza por favor

I get mixed up a lot. I said Ola to the French border guard at the channel tunnel once, that was awkward

[cunning siren]

Try speaking french to them next time... even more awkward 😆

[zenith pecan]

I'm limited to English, Really bad English & Русский, and I'm not great at the latter.

[shy mulch]

More than most people

[zenith pecan]

Да 🤣

[cunning siren]

It sounds like you may be saying the hotbar 1-0 ceases to function sometimes and you have to restart to fix it? 🤔

Check if you are hitting ALT + mouse wheel as that will cycle the hotbars and that could cause that

[zenith pecan]

One issue with learning the cyrillic alphabet, the fun and games of faux cyrillic, д is not an A 🤦‍♂️

[zenith pecan]

I've done thst and wondered wth with my hotbar.

[shy mulch]

Gets even more fun when you can guess the word from the context but think about it in the wrong language. I saw Дa and said Ja in my head

[zenith pecan]

Close, sounds like Da 😀

[bright helm]

#screenshots message What is radioactive in my inventory?

[shy mulch]

Same meaning 😄

[cunning siren]

Nothing, it's a bug, relog

[bright helm]

My radiaton bar is full

[bright helm]

ok

[mortal ginkgo]

did you pick up uranium and pressed Sort? Then reload the save.

[feral geyser]

You sorted your inventory while carrying something radioactive

[mortal ginkgo]

We assume that bug will be fixed in Satisfactory 2 - Revenge of Spheres

[shy mulch]

If you sort while there is something radioactive in your inventory, then it makes the radioactivity stay forever until you reload your save

[silk ivy]

do all awesome sinks sync up the tickets or do u have to go grab the tickets from each one

[hard ivy]

all items sunk add to the same point/ticket pool

[cunning siren]

The sinks sunk and then syncs 😆

[midnight ocean]

is there any way to take items out of the interdimensional storage with conveyors?

[hard ivy]

That'd be way too OP

[midnight ocean]

thought so but i was hoping i was wrong

[cunning siren]

They already are super powerful

[unkempt blade]

just like factory carts

[midnight ocean]

i was just hoping to avoid some of the mess off conveyors

[slender quest]

Only if you have a bunch of "friends" or friends doing that for you.

Because depot is not limited by distance, only by upload speed of one unit.

[unkempt blade]

vehicles don't need as many conveyors 😄

[midnight ocean]

the only vehicle i have is the cyber truck

[cunning siren]

I seem to enjoy how easy it is to fix stuff IF it's in a blueprint vs. when it is not. Dismantle mode: Blueprint ALONE is worth it IMO 🤔

[midnight ocean]

what do blueprints actually do?

[cunning siren]

Do you want spoilers?

[midnight ocean]

yes please

[cunning siren]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Blueprint_Designer

[exotic prism]

Just logged in after a long hiatus and went into the hub. Thanks for wishing me a Happy Birthday game 🤣

[slender quest]

Happy birthay, we're celebrating game's anniversary!
(Or not, ADA is always telling to be efficient)

[midnight ocean]

oh so it makes it easier to redo factories?

[cunning siren]

It's more than that and yes

[zenith pecan]

If you use standard templates.

[midnight ocean]

i might do that one after advanced steel then

[cunning siren]

I've seen streamers do crazy advanced stuff with blueprints, I'm not that experinced, yet

[zenith pecan]

I probably should use blueprints more, especially with the size of my builds.

[hard dawn]

if i buy the steam version now, can i transfer my Early acces supporter bonuses from Epic over somehow?

[hard ivy]

doubtful

[slender quest]

For production you can use blueprints to build groups of same machines with conveyors already connected to them.
Or build different connected machines, to have parts of production lines ready for specific recipe.
Or anything of above, but each machine already has a recipe set up, so you won't need to do that later - just connect the power and start your new factory!

[zenith pecan]

A lot of my lines are bespoke.

My baux refiney smelter floor was maddening to setup due to the amount of ingots it produces.

[cunning siren]

If the limitations on building stuff were less so, similar to Factorio where you "zoop" shit everywhere you can reach for as far as you can "run / fly", I would be less intrested in this games blueprint system

I guess there is an unlimited zoop mod? Kind of hesitant to get into mods yet

[latent prawn]

yeah, there's a mod that increases the limit. you can also bp foundation if you need to cover large areas.

[cunning siren]

Sadge about power lines not auto connecting 😭

[cunning siren]

OH yea! I'm attempting to do something like that now #screenshots message

[midnight ocean]

do hypertubes need power?

[slender quest]

Yes, power every entrance.

[hard ivy]

The tubes themselves, no. But the entrances do

[versed mesa]

Thus guy builds are insanely good https://youtu.be/qf_yEz6vRCI?si=HRerfmzi24bhEOom

[midnight ocean]

does it take much power?

[hard ivy]

10 MW each

[versed mesa]

I dont my mind is capable of doing anything like those builds

[midnight ocean]

and is that at both entrances or just 1?

[hard ivy]

Quite a lot if you're building accelerators

[hard ivy]

It's per entrance ofc

[midnight ocean]

ah ok probably not worth it right now then

[slender quest]

It's fine, it can even work a few seconds from a battery powered by a biomass burner with a bit of fuel.

(Some people use that setup in a blueprint to "take off' anywhere)

[hard ivy]

20 MW per route isn't really a lot. it only becomes a lot when you start building linear accelerators with a dozen entrances each

[midnight ocean]

my stuff isnt spread out too much aside from some miners so i will probably research it later

[slender quest]

For exploration i chose different alternative: zipline + power tower.

[midnight ocean]

oh so do people use them to get back after exploring?

[slender quest]

Mhmm, or go forward.

[hard ivy]

no, I use esc -> respawn for that

[slender quest]

Or move between bases.

[slender quest]

Ooo, death travel! Just like in some games i know!

[midnight ocean]

i have drop items on death on

[slender quest]

Put them in Dimensional Depot.

[midnight ocean]

i cant be wasting that many mercer spheres at this stage sadly

[glad drum]

I wish I could do that still 🙁

[cunning siren]

It's hard to beat hypertube cannon for travel, super fast, super cheap

[hard ivy]

why not? just enable keep inventory

[glad drum]

My game crashes if I respawn at my mega factory

and I REFUSE to move my HUB right now

[cunning siren]

Ooof

[hard ivy]

big oof indeed

[glad drum]

Petition to have either multiple HUBs or "Respawn Points" in the game so I can select a spot that won't crash my game?

[honest ridge]

how do u guys actually make factorys, i used to want to make big buildsings for everything but now i just pave a massive slab of foundations

[hard ivy]

I make a slab of foundations

[glad drum]

Put your conveyors/pipes to "Curved" mode and put down so many you can't see the ground anymore

[crisp edge]

do you guys find that using a manifold lane on the output of a row of machines causes a ton of problems? because I feel like every single time i try to put outputs in a line of mergers the ones at the back of the line just have their outputs full. i did recently discover priority mergers, and that helps a bit, but isn't there a better way to handle outputs that doesn't require the priority version of the merger?

[peak wasp]

So opinion for you guys

Using mk1 belts at end game?

[hexed phoenix]

Sounds like you have more total output, than what your belt / next stage machine can carry

[hard ivy]

I use manifolds without any issues. if items are backing up, either the belt is not fast enough, or you're not consuming everyting you're producing, or you need to wait

[peak wasp]

Like smelters only output at 30 items per minute so a mk1 belt is fine but with faster belts when they merge into the main sections

[reef basin]

unless you're merging more than what your belt can handle, you should be fine

[heavy anvil]

i really think smelter mk 2 and 3s should exist

[hard ivy]

I always use the fastest belt I have available, only except mk2, which is too expensive to use everywhere at the early game

[reef basin]

that's what overclocking is for

[cunning siren]

I mostly build around my 🥔 hardware so that means smelting and initial processing happens directly at the resource nodes where I can "hide them away" from my gimpy GPU 😆

[heavy anvil]

but before you can manufacture powershards

[hard ivy]

it's called a refinery

[reef basin]

before that you can handcraft them

[hexed phoenix]

Sounds like a worthy challenge of Satisfactory though.. Complete Phase 5 with only Mk1 Belts :D

[reef basin]

super easy. Direct input ftw

[limpid cairn]

Don’t hand craft them, craft them with a somerlooped constructor!!!

[reef basin]

no reason to bother with practically infinite resource

[hard ivy]

? slugs aren't infinite
and neither is the time you can spend collecting them

[heavy anvil]

it just seems like it would be a relatively easy and nice addition

[reef basin]

power shards are

[heavy anvil]

you can craft power shards using time crystals n stuff

[hard ivy]

only in t9

[peak wasp]

yeah but I think it would be neat to have the end game decision to focus on efficiency of materials...pure ingot recipes on refineries and churning through ore quickly with mk2 and mk3 smelters...honestly I think it would add some end game variety

[hexed phoenix]

Not sure the world map has enough place to do Direct input, Ballistic Warp Drive factory :D

[crisp edge]

@hard ivy tagging both of you. i've tried two ways of setting these up. 1. changing belt speed as we go down the line(i.e. smelter outputs 30/min, so the belt after the first merger is mk1, after 2nd is mk1, after 3rd is mk2, etc until we reach the end of the line), and 2. putting something like a mk5 belt on the line that connects all the mergers while still leaving the output from the machines to mergers at the proper belt speed for the amount they produce per machine. both of them have the problem where the machines at the back of the line just keep their outputs full, because they just can't merge with the main belt, even if the belt is empty at the front of the row

[reef basin]

even before

[hard ivy]

doggos are slow af

[reef basin]

it has. It's practically the same amount of machines, with a few limitations where the machines need more than 60/min

[reef basin]

that doesn't make it not infinite

[peak wasp]

is it worth it to sloop the power shards?

[hard ivy]

yes? no reason not to

[reef basin]

as always, "worth" depends on you

[heavy anvil]

personally i think powershards should be used as minor overclocks to round out a number or reduce conveyor clogging, not having every single machine in your factory overclocked 250%

[hard ivy]

why tf would I waste a shard on a minor overclock

[peak wasp]

I think powershards should be used on every single power plant though

[cunning siren]

This game tends to reward those who are able to "plan ahead" for when they may need to extend their smelting line to 40x (Maximum) if needed. The reward is you can be ultra lazy on power and save some overclocking shards for some other situation. Since 40x smelters DOES take up a bit of room most folk either plan ahead with layouts or they build on an elevated platform where the geography no longer imposes any limit 🤷

[hexed phoenix]

Please give me some numbers to crunch :)

Whats the output you're manifolding (I.E. How many machines x output of each machine)

And what is the destination of your manifolded output, and how much is the input requiring ?

[peak wasp]

saves space

[lethal fable]

hi, do you have any info about upcoming discounts on steam, or when they will be available?

[hard ivy]

if the machines are backing up and the output belt has space, you're just using belts that are too slow

[reef basin]

I'd heavily disagree with this. The game is perfectly fine without planning ahead, and I'd say it's even easier to play without planning ahead

[heavy anvil]

think more if you want to build a small little extension without completely building a whole factory. ex: i need an extra 30 screws per minute for this one tiny thing, but i dont want to build something completely new to support it

[cunning siren]

Opinion noted

[peak wasp]

I like using the sinks to stress test a factory because you know nothing will backup

[midnight ocean]

could i use manual depot uploader for that?

[hard ivy]

I just put a sink on the output of the whole factory

[midnight ocean]

oh just realised i dont have the orange server looking things i need to research that

[crisp edge]

yeah, no problem, let me boot the game and get you an example

[crisp edge]

impossible. if a machine puts out 30/min and i have 5 machines with a mk5 belt running between them, i'm well over spec

[hard ivy]

it's also impossible to have both space on the output belt, and items backing up in machines if you're using the same speed of belt everywhere

[crisp edge]

hence my confusion

[slender quest]

Yeah, you can also put multiple + cargo container and connect them all to increase upload speed (blueprint that too).

[wispy sandal]

I just started another playthru after not playing for a long long time; should i throw super computers into the awesome sink? or are they worth keeping?

[wary perch]

I wish the coffee cup could be filled with different liquids that were as infinite as the current coffee

[vestal hill]

By “just” how long ago did you start to already have supercomputers

[honest ridge]

yo when i launched the pod there was a fist which pressed the button but it didnt happen the next time

[next sequoia]

Am I able to duplicate my survival world and turn it into creative? Trying to precisely plan out a 320 turbo fuel burner power plant

[cunning siren]

YEA! The rare fist smash is a RNG thing

Congrats

[crisp edge]

sent you a dm

[cunning siren]

I do a bit of both with a box of them with a Depot uploader on it and a smart splitter dumping the overflow into the sink (when the box is full) for a good amount of points

This does eat more power and shared resources if that is how you roll. If you have ample of both, party on

[next sequoia]

You can get rid of the gas rocks with nobelisks 😱

[cunning siren]

Wait till you get explosive rebar 🤯 so handy

[harsh valley]

There is no way the space elevator wants this much stuff

Might as well just start a mega smelter

With 20 crafters an 20 smelters (for now

Am i exaggerating?

[atomic notch]

Do it

[hard ivy]

almost definitely

[wild lotus]

I heard there was some mk6 belt problem in Satisfactory, where apparently even though you require it to transport 1200 parts per minute, it wouldn't. Does this issue still persist? Had to know

[limpid cairn]

what phase

[harsh valley]

I haven't built it yet

So i think phase 0

[hard ivy]

bro just place a few constructors and let them make items for a while

[limpid cairn]

good luck on the last phase if you think thats a lot

[harsh valley]

I'm gonna need it

[harsh valley]

How much is a few

[hard ivy]

idk, 2? 3?

[crisp edge]

3 or 4 should do it

[harsh valley]

For each resource, correct?

[atomic notch]

Its not that hard just dont let these guys over complicate it for you

[crisp edge]

no, just in total

[harsh valley]

That's not gonna cut it

[crisp edge]

you can swap the recipes around when you need a different resource

[harsh valley]

I have 4 runnin now

One for cable, one for cement, one for rods and one for plates

[crisp edge]

i keep a slooped constructor sitting in my main base that i just change the recipe on when i need slugs or solid biomass or whatever

[harsh valley]

And 6 biofuel reactors

[wispy sandal]

thats a lot of biofuel reactors for a lil setup twin

[harsh valley]

Also should i put all my constructors in one place or separate them based on the resource and only put the crates near the hub

[harsh valley]

I like to overshoot

[cunning siren]

Yep, it got patched! AND now we have a handy belt throughput monitor device to validate!

[harsh valley]

And that message

Fuse blown

It haunts me at night

[wild lotus]

Thanks a lot man, I really needed this confirmation. Otherwise everything would go to waste

[cunning siren]

They also fixed the strange lag with megabases for placing specificly MK.6 belts

[wild lotus]

So just to confirm, if I attach a mk3 miner completely overclocked to a pure node, I'll be getting 1200 ore per min right?

[wild lotus]

Demn that's nice didn't know that. Ig I shud be more active with the patch notes and socials lol

[harsh valley]

Help me out pls

[honest ridge]

i assume the amount of points per coupon caps at some point right?

[hard ivy]

yes, at ~250M

[honest ridge]

oh jeez

does anyone actually get to that point

and what do u even sink to get them at that much

[cunning siren]

Some folk do one or the other or mix and match 🤷 figure out what you want to do I guess

[hard ivy]

it happens at 3000 coupons printed

I think I got there once

or almost there

[heavy anvil]

1200 supercomputers a minute

[limpid cairn]

so if you dont print any coupons the ammount stays the same?

[honest ridge]

i got 18 cooling systems from my dog should i keep them or sink

[wispy sandal]

I'll be real, I've rebuilt my factory a lot, I wouldnt be stressed about getting it perfect first go lol

[cunning siren]

One dude on here is making a 25 /min ballistic warp drive factory 😆 dude is gonna be swimming in coupons like Scruge McDuck

[hard ivy]

they'll be useful for unlocks in phase 4

[wispy sandal]

Should I just dump a supercomputer in the sink? I found one in a wreck; and I'm barely into coal power so i figured not useful rn

[heavy anvil]

heres a little secret: sink all you coupons to double them

[hard ivy]

actually, max theoretical sink points is around 500M/min. 2 coupons/min

[dawn storm]

satisfactrory may have the best first person hands

[shy mulch]

I'm at the 249.5m points/coupon cap in my main save

[cunning siren]

Boooosh... 😆

[atomic notch]

Idek man im just sinking overflows it cant be that high

[shy mulch]

Wdym?

[atomic notch]

Although i did dump an isc full of nuclear pasta idk if that did anything

[wispy sandal]

what does a man do with 22 coupons

[hard ivy]

you can get there by sinking overflow if you just build large enough by the endgame

[heavy anvil]

sink one and buy a cyber wagon

[hard ivy]

I'd buy floor holes

[harsh valley]

Fair enough

I'll put every recourse near it's mining points for now

Since it's getting clustered near the hub

[heavy anvil]

buy the cyber wagon trust

[limpid cairn]

buy factory cart blueprint

[wispy sandal]

I did that in a friends world; and spawned a few into a wall; and now they'r estuck under the map forever LMAO

[atomic notch]

Wall outlets

[harsh valley]

Should i first complete all the milestones in the hub before i construct the elevator?

[hard ivy]

imma be honest, I have deployed a factory cart exactly once in my life

[atomic notch]

Do whatever u want man

[cunning siren]

The ultra steep stairs on Modern Catwalks is pretty nice for early exploration, there are many situations where the standard 4 m ramp foundation won't "do the job" to gain elevation. Ladder works too of course 🤷

[shy mulch]

Not essential but generally reccomended

[heavy anvil]

people who insist upon using factory carts and trucks just dont understand the simplistic beauty of the cyber wagon

that sharp 45 degree angle at the top...

the largest windshield wiper on any commercial vehicle...

[harsh valley]

I can already mentally visualise the amount of spaghetti

[hard ivy]

unless something doesn't look useful you, then maybe don't bother, but otherwise it's a good idea to unlock everything you can as soon as you can

[harsh valley]

Are jump pads useful for something?

[heavy anvil]

i never used them

[hard ivy]

fun? sure. useful? not really

[leaden turret]

yeeting lizard doggos into the void

[heavy anvil]

parachute+ hypertube loop

[harsh valley]

(packed with plutonium waste)

[compact herald]

is there a convenient way to build long flying conveyors?

my current technique is just building a large vertical foundation as a midpoint, then deleting it after but its quite impractical for longer distances

[cunning siren]

Blueprints can do this

[compact herald]

ah, yes, i have seen that, like nice bridges and stuff. excepting that, just for on the fly stuff, there is no other alternative?

[cunning siren]

🤔 I'm not sure and I want to say no 🤷

[cobalt lodge]

A while ago I decided to make the resource empty island in the south west of the map a nature reservoir.
For Kittens and Puppies, you know...
Now I'm building 35 Nuclear Powerplants right next to it.
Rate my ethics.

[compact herald]

ok thank you :D

[shy mulch]

Exploit. Exploit. Exploit.

[cunning siren]

WILL buy kittens and puppies for coupons!

[cobalt lodge]

Nah, I have 900 coupons saving for the statue

[shy mulch]

What's the most coupons you can have in the machine? Does it stop going up at one point and you need to collect them?

[cobalt lodge]

It just goes on and on but you can only print 500 at once

[shy mulch]

Hmmm OK thanks. Might just leave it forever and see how high I can take it go 😂

[cobalt lodge]

Will take forever eventually. If you play with "advanced settings" I recommend resetting the counter via interactive map

[shy mulch]

What do you mean by 'will take forever eventually'
I don't use AGS or save editing

[cobalt lodge]

Like 500 Mil per coupon

[white dawn]

It's possible/probable that there's a MAXINT limit to the number of coupons that can be stored in the sink, pre-printing. So either ~4.3 billion or ~18.4 quintillion, depending on the datatype it's stored as. :) (Or half that if they used a signed value by accident)

[shy mulch]

No, 249.5m per coupon is max

[cobalt lodge]

oh

I'm almost there then

Thought the limit was higher

[wispy sandal]

its totally intentional to bhop at ridiculous speeds right/

[shy mulch]

Hah I don't think I'll get to that. I'm gonna assume it's a 2.1b cap because there are other numbers that cap out at that so they probably just used the same data type for everything

[heavy anvil]

ficsit values effciency over following the laws of physics

[cunning siren]

You should make a "pool" of coupons and swim in them 😆

[shy mulch]

Go go go you can do it 😁

[compact herald]

im a bit confused about lifts, im using a lift to input into a splitter, which works on one splitter

however, on the other splitter. it has blue "output" arrows coming out of the top and i cant attach my conveyor

[static bramble]

thought on my central factory ? #screenshots

[shy mulch]

Press R to reverse the lift direction

[cunning siren]

Dude needs a "coupon shooting gun" so he can "make it rain"

[honest ridge]

yo whats the point of the automated miner recipe bro

[hard ivy]

so you can automate them into the depot and never have to worry about miners again

[compact herald]

hmm, either in default or reversed i get the same sort of thing, so i'm not really sure? i always see the stuff moving upwards regardless of build type

[shy mulch]

You sure the splitter/merger is oriented correctly?

[unique peak]

What is the best starting location?

[honest ridge]

just afk craft them for like 10 mins and youll have more than youll ever need lol

[compact herald]

ah,yes, thats my problem of course

sorry!

[frank iron]

Good location and first glance looks like good ratios. Put some walls/ architecture up and you got yourself a factory

[wispy sandal]

so uh, spaghetti is fine right? Like i've done manifolds to optimise, but Its kinda spaghetti BOH (i hide most of the manifolds UNDER ground)

[heavy anvil]

spaghetti is good

[wispy sandal]

I tried to hide it, but i gave up about 20 minute later

[heavy anvil]

a straight line is always the quickest path

[static bramble]

yeah this is why i put my machines one level above, to do like the mini concrete factory you can see with the depot, thanks bro

[wispy sandal]

the quickest path is it clipping through several constructors and warping physics all together

[static bramble]

also i did my maths with mk3 miners, so i will just need to change the miners when i will unlock them and add belts and nothing else to change

[cunning siren]

All of them are pretty good accept the noob one IMO. That one attempts to slowly ease you into the game at the cost of all the resources being very far away

[wispy sandal]

In fairness, Its really well built; kinda proud of my ability to do basic division

[prime rampart]

how do i place blueprints?

[frank iron]

ahhh okay I was about to ask about some conveyors I noticed unchained. I figured it was future expansion. I'll reply in screenshots to where I was looking.

[static bramble]

yeah its for future expansion

[frank iron]

sweeet yeah man thats super good planning. I'm bad at that. I'll plan to Mk 1/ Mk 2 then redo the whole factory by Mk 3. Buuuuuut I usually want to update my factory with newer, more efficient ideas by that time anyway lol

[azure scarab]

Is there some kind of filter for the freight platform, so that I can say that Iwant half of it to be filled with rubber and when half the platform is filled with rubber it just cuts off my rubber supply?

[hard ivy]

do not mix items in a platform if you want to keep your sanity

[static bramble]

i just use satisfactory modeler, it is so useful. personally i prefer do new factory of new product instead of destroying my own to rebuild it

[hard ivy]

I don't even mix items in a train

[static bramble]

why not, you can use intelligent splitter ?

[feral geyser]

Within a single train is fine, but yeah, keep cars and stations to single item.

[azure scarab]

gulp

[hard ivy]

you have to sink overflow or it'll deadlock. and there are throughput issues

[honest ridge]

stitched iron plate or steel frame?

[static bramble]

oh okay i didnt get to train and intelligent splitters yet anyway

[hard ivy]

I'd want both

[honest ridge]

ok but i can only pick 1 so whats better

im kinda thinking frame cos stitched plate doesnt give a nice amount per minute

[hard ivy]

whichever one you're more likely to use sooner

[honest ridge]

3.625 bro what is tha

[shy mulch]

Smart splitters work fine, just be aware of throughput

[hard ivy]

all numbers are nice

[shy mulch]

29/8

[cunning siren]

That's a good rule of thumb I guess, make a bunch of stations for each part and you don't have to micro manage as much 🤔 I tend to avoid trains and I may try this idea for some stuff

[weak dragon]

Hi guys im a relatively new player and i dont understand why people prefers use multiple constructions rather than using a power shard ?

I create my builds and put a lot of shards and work well

[shy mulch]

More power efficiency

[hard ivy]

because it's harder to get a power shard to build an extra machine. plus overclocking uses more power

[spare ruin]

I've never run into an issue transporting different items within a single train as long as each freight car only carries one type of item.

[shy mulch]

1 constructor at 200% uses more power than 2 constructors at 100%

[weak dragon]

It's only because of power ? I saw shards can be created artificially

oh okay good to know

[shy mulch]

Creating them artificially is a late game thing

[hard ivy]

in tier 9. by that point, sure, I overclock everything to 250%. but before that, shards are too hard to get to use on everything

[cunning siren]

I have 🤷 being human is like that, mistakes happen. Why I try and build stuff so the human aspect is not relied on because it can not be obvi

[weak dragon]

Oh well okay I understand, Ill think about a rework then ...

Thanks guys sys :)

[hard ivy]

you can only get max throughput and traffic efficiency if you put only one item type in the entire train

[solar hamlet]

Whats a good spot for coal power in the dune desert?

[shy mulch]

Another reason is expandability. If I design a factory with lots of machines and put effort into the design, then later decide I want to increase the output. Then I can do that eosily by just adding power shards. If I fully over clock everything initially, then I don't have that option

[hard ivy]

northeast

[spare ruin]

hmm, why? You can use two mk6 per freight.

[cunning siren]

Water spots are kind of rare so that is the challenge on that start

[teal dove]

can someone help me please

[hard ivy]

because of the stop settings. defaults are inefficient because they don't guarantee the wagons are always full when the train is moving. the other setting does. but you can't really use it well with a mix of different items in the train

[hard ivy]

there are like 2 or 3 good spots but they're all on the edges

[shy mulch]

There's plenty water along the east coast down the cliff

[cunning siren]

I guess if one wanted to "dink around" with the river water that may also be an option 🤔

[spare ruin]

ah, you must be using a lot more resources than my build.

[hard ivy]

probably, but it's not even about that. if you only set the train to only depart when empty/full and the train doesn't have much to transport, it'll drive its route very infrequently, reducing traffic

[spare ruin]

oh, I have it running continuously.

[teal dove]

Im new to the game and i just finished researching coal power and i have found a coal node near my base but there is no useable water source near the node what should i do

[cunning siren]

Find water

Belt coal to water if feasable

If not look for coal next to water

[teal dove]

the next closest water is over a thousands meters away

[azure scarab]

I have 2 trains connected to the same freight cart, both go in the opposite direction. When I try to the the train in the back to drive backwards to the other station, it just says that the station is unreachable.

[cunning siren]

Hummm, sounds like you are at the Grass Fields perhaps?

[green fiber]

do you have signals?
Is the station facing the right direction?
Stations can only be approached from one direction

[teal dove]

i think so i dont remeber exactly i know the coordinates though

[solar hamlet]

The coal gen ratio is 8 to 3 pumps right?

[hard ivy]

*extractors, not pumps, but yes

[green fiber]

8 gens to 3 water extractors

[clever merlin]

smart spliters feel so glichy now

[azure scarab]

Wait what direction does it need to be in, if I want the front train to drive backwards?

[solar hamlet]

I am confused... Ive unlocked the xeno-basher milestone... and did not receive the extra hand slot

[cunning siren]

Does your starting area look like a big open grassy area with a massive sky sting ray looking thing that sounds like a blue wale?

[abstract trail]

wym

[clever merlin]

it aculty has pylomer as it left output and it has plyomer coming in

but the shit just not doing anythbing

[green fiber]

the locomotives themselves cannot reverse.
Locomotives only pull. if one cannot pull the train to the next station, then they switch and the other one pulls instead (if it faces the right direction)
you can see the direction of arrival when building a station. thats the big orange arrow

[teal dove]

yes

[abstract trail]

reconnect the belts

[hard ivy]

they're bugged now. you got more than you should have at the start, so the next few upgrades don't work

[clever merlin]

5 times

on each side

[cunning siren]

OK yes, that is a "easy" start for first-time players AND it's hard cuz most of the resources are very far away 🤷

[azure scarab]

how do I get them to switch. Also do I need 2 stations one for each locomotive. Since i only have one station for each platform.

[clever merlin]

oh now it just raadmoly start working

[teal dove]

i have iron, limestone and copper already and i have found a pure coal node about 300m away but there is no water to use so im not sure what to do

[clever merlin]

and it stop in a few mins

[green fiber]

You need one station per arrival direction
if you have a stop that is supposed to be reached from 2 sides - front and back - then it needs 2 train stations, one on each end
the locomotives switch based on shortest path.
If the front one could keep driving and then drive in a loop, it would do that
if it cannot turn around, then instead they switch and the other one drives back

[clever merlin]

ok watever i sure this is gonna be a furstation i gonna have to deal with for the next 4 hours

great

[abstract trail]

sing the blood song

[clever merlin]

and it stops agin

[abstract trail]

that will make it work 100 percent

[clever merlin]

lol wtf man

[cunning siren]

Yea, it's rough laying down foundations and belting 2x MK.1 belts a long way for that first coal build. I would consider starting at one of the deserts IMO 🤷

[abstract trail]

have you seriously never picked up a mercer or somersloop?

[teal dove]

so should i remove everything and find somewhere else

[clever merlin]

I have

i just dont always pay attention to it lol

i know im a horrible person for not 🙁 lol

[cunning siren]

Yea, that is also an option

[teal dove]

what is my other optioin

[cunning siren]

New Game, new start

[clever merlin]

threating to end the game life if it doest do wat you want

lol

[teal dove]

im going to move everything what are some good coords to move to

[cunning siren]

If you follow the west shore you'll hit rocky desert 🤷 that's a good plan

[latent meadow]

when negation wont work go stright to threat

lol

[cunning siren]

Be careful though cuz your respawn is either at the HUB OR back where you started 😆 so yea, thats the price for this plan

[teal dove]

ok but do you know any coords for a open spot with a good amount of resources

[hard ivy]

take the hub with you so you can build a respawn shelter before doing something dangerous

[cunning siren]

-161,603 -35,303

[teal dove]

thanks

[azure scarab]

idk if I understood that, but I just placed another station down that goes backwards, so i have 2 one that goes backwards and the other goes forward... The trains still do not switch. Does it have something to do with the route i want them to take?

[green fiber]

your stations could be placed down the wrong way.
also, any signals?

[azure scarab]

no signals.. Dont you only need them if you have multiple independent trains?

[green fiber]

yes.

[cunning siren]

Yes, be sure to delete the HUB and rebuild it to "save your progress" on the journey and so you can rebuild it at the desert location. Basically if you are gonna die rebuild hub fast 😆 until you get to the end location

[green fiber]

I just wanted to make sure

the problem is then probably that the stations are the wrong way around

Images would help a lot #screenshots
or make a #1038092680493801533 post

[hard ivy]

check this first #1419719894483861545 message

[azure scarab]

OMFG the other station where i wanted to transport the items, was turned the wrong way....

[solar hamlet]

Well... first coal power gen done... now I can automate steel production and use all fo the power up 😄

[placid stirrup]

What a silly mistake! Nobody else does that here, especially not 5 times for a single factory... 👀

[silk ivy]

spent 40 minutes trying to figure out how i'm missing 500MW only for it to be a fuel generator that's not connected to the grid

[solar hamlet]

Whats a decent number for first steel production ... probably just for my use about 90% time 30 beams 30 pipes and 6 encased?

[heavy pine]

I like to find some coal and iron together and just use all of it on the ingots, then split those up for beams and pipes.

[signal shale]

for first steel? I made do with 120/min starting out, but it's probably better to start with your project parts/minute and work back from that. Also, this would be an excellent time to go hunting for hard drives.

[hard ivy]

you'll want way more encased for mk4 belts

[latent prawn]

I usually like tossing a mk2 miner on iron & one on coal at steel as the initial build

[solar hamlet]

Right... guess I could make steel pipes with the iron pipes recipe somewhere else and use more of the steel for the encased pipes

[hard ivy]

you can get the encased pipe alt and make them without steel

[solar hamlet]

Ill be building the factory with MK2 miner in mind and faste belts but dont have them yet 😄

[latent prawn]

yeah, it's easy to upgrade the belts right after you start making some beams

[signal shale]

@solar hamlet what was your starting spot?

[solar hamlet]

well, hardrives were not willing yet, but I am trying to get it 😄

[heavy pine]

Just remember to finish upgrading when you start on it. I turned off my basic steel production in order to upgrade it with faster miners and belts, then got sidetracked and forgot to actually do the upgrading until I started running out of beams for Mk.3 belts.

[solar hamlet]

Dune desert... didnt start there yet before... my eyes kinda hurt from all the reddish orange 😄

[signal shale]

oh, dune desert! I ended up making my first steel up near that crater in the middle of the dunes, I believe. Coal plant was way northeast, on foundations over the river, iirc, too.

[latent prawn]

what i like doing for the initial steel build is finding the solid steel recipe before i even bother with it. When i do so, i'll use a couple of normal nodes to supply it, and build it out for 240->360/min. that build will support a 600->900 ingot overclock after more tech unlocks

[solar hamlet]

Ive found enough crap to even unlock the Mk3 belts and MK2 miners before starting to build... but not enough to build it 😄

[signal shale]

(the SAM node northwest is hard to find, and has spiders, by the way, especially if you follow the ground level cave to run a belt of SAM through the rock wall for easier pickup.)

[latent prawn]

how you process that btw pipes and beams is personal choice, but i find that doing 2 constructors on beam and the rest on pipe is the way to go.

[placid stirrup]

All late game/rare nodes are closely and heavily guarded

[signal shale]

eh, some have spitters instead of spiders, though. Much easier.

I'll take a half a dozen alpha spitters over a singlee rad hog, TBH

[latent prawn]

there's a few sam nodes that aren't that badly guarded. the one in dune desert is pretty light. there's one in blue crater that isn't badly guarded but is a real pita to access

[jagged trench]

how long does it normally take to get a reply in the help section please?

[signal shale]

that sam node at the bottom of the pit in the green fields is more guarded by fall damagee than anything.

[latent prawn]

yeah, there's an alt path to that one if you go in from the cave entrance down at the bottom of the map

[signal shale]

yeah, though don't you need nobelisks at one point for that route?

[latent prawn]

iirc, you need a gas mask to get through there though

i think the path isn't blocked, but has gas and a bunch of small spooders

[sweet surge]

Whats a gas mask? Just blow up the fungus towers

[hard ivy]

you never need a gas mask. both gas sources can be blown up

[latent prawn]

yep, or a bunch of inhalers

[glad drum]

You can also just place your HUB nearby, die, then keep running in til you've got everything

You may need to AFK to regen some hp though

[signal shale]

you might not need a gas mask for gas, but iirc you do need it as part of being safer around spicy rocks.

[hard ivy]

just blow them all up

[cursive python]

when are we getting more news or teasers on 1.2???

PLS 🙏

[signal shale]

can't blow up spicy rocks.

[glad drum]

It probably won't be til November at the earliest

[hard ivy]

oh, those spicy rocks. but I don't think you need a gas mask for those. just the hazmat suit

[signal shale]

I thought you needed iodine filters for the gas mask for them

[cursive python]

for a teaser?? no way

[honest ridge]

is overclocking a machine to 150% the same as having one at 100% and one at 50% in terms of power and stuff?

[hard ivy]

in terms of production, yes, in terms of power, no. the 1 @150% will take 22% more than 1@100+1@50

[glad drum]

Big thing is the console launch right now, and letting console players enjoy the game & Ficsmas - I'd say maybe a teaser in November then more info in the new year but I'm just rollin' dice and makin' rice

[honest ridge]

oh so really why would you ever overclock unless you were tight on space or just didnt want to split it?

[hard ivy]

when you have unlimited shards and you need to place 1000 machines. with OC, it's only 400

[honest ridge]

oh ig

[glad drum]

Just place 1000 duh, more spaghetti, more winning

[hard ivy]

fun fact: replacing all of your machines with 100x more machines at 1% will save you nearly 80% of the power consumption

[glad drum]

oh my god I think I've found my new world plan

I think I'd actually have to give up spaghetti for that world

[heavy anvil]

precisely the opposite irl tho

[cunning siren]

Most Helpful Priority Order: 🤔

• 1. Solid Steel Ingot - Highest impact, saves the most resources (especially coal)
• 2. Pure Iron Ingot - Enhances the Solid Steel recipe further and provides ~30% iron production boost
• 3. Iron Pipe - Lower priority, mainly useful for specific pipe-heavy builds

[hard ivy]

eh, I think solid steel has lost a lot of its importance due to iron pipe

like I barely use steel anymore

why would I bring in coal when I can just use the iron I already have

[heavy anvil]

industrial beams for conveyors?

[glad drum]

Is it really just the lower the underclocking, the more 'efficient' your factory is on power? All the way to 1%?

[hard ivy]

yes, because power scales exponentially, and production scales linearly. 250% speed uses 34% more power than 100%, 10% speed uses 52% less, 1% speed 77% less. can't go below 1% sadly

and that's per item produced, not per machine

[white dawn]

Power efficiency at the cost of sanity efficiency. :)

[pine pasture]

any common solutions to trains not going to their station? it just keeps going in a loop around the other stations/junctions. there is a clear route to the proper station(i can literally drive it there) but the self driving wont get it there

[hard ivy]

set its timetable to the correct station?

[pine pasture]

yeah its set correctly

it doesnt stop at the other sstations it just aimlessly drives ariund the tracks lol

[hard ivy]

that doesn't sound like something trains are not capable of doing

[next sequoia]

About to scrap my old power plant and build a new one with this cylinder design. 20+ floors. Was using the wrong recipe lol (stuff top left is testing)
#screenshots message

Thoughts on design? Not sure what to do

[silk ivy]

why is my train's outgoing rate 300 when i'm feeding it 480 coal per minute

should i tell the train to wait more at the station?

[glad drum]

Damn. I'm actually gonna have to create a world that does 1% factories now. That's gonna be a world where I need to use blueprints.

Won't have to worry about power though >:)

[hard ivy]

because the train is not able to move more than 300 with the setup you have

trains aren't magic and don't have infinite throughput

[neon lava]

hey all... so ehm, i sthere a way to turn off the music in the Hub?? Its driving me mad hahaha

[hard ivy]

#announcements message

[glad drum]

Yes! #satisfactory message

[lament niche]

so when are we going to get a report post feature on the QA site? its getting spammed every day

[hard apex]

Guys I told my friend about load balancers 15 minutes ago and now he somehow knows more than me

[hard ivy]

they aren't that hard

[limpid cairn]

Depends on the tier and what you need atm

[dim beacon]

any one here use interactive map for their builds?

[signal shale]

I'm not a huge fan of the pure recipes, largely beecause I don't like dealing with pipes

[reef basin]

good thing is that you can easily play the game without them 🙂

[heavy anvil]

i barely used them untl after i completed project assembly

[limpid cairn]

I think most here use an interactive map to collect stuff like hard drives slugs etc etc

[signal shale]

without the pure recipes? Sure, though it can be a good investment, like pure caterium to make that go further.

[dim beacon]

so if I make a sloped surface with t1 1 mtr foundations I find that the rail track no longer remains parrallel to the track clips to it as if it is still a flat surface 🙁

[limpid cairn]

But-but- how am I supposed to create 50 nuclear pasta per minute without them

oh wait I forgot you can just sloop particle accelerators

[green fiber]

Copper Alloy or Tempered Copper:

[signal shale]

that noise in the distance is your power grid screaming for mercy

[heavy anvil]

50 particle accelorators clocked 200% each using 1000-3000MW

[limpid cairn]

Only 3gw?

I thought they’re using more

[heavy anvil]

1.5 if my maths right

[limpid cairn]

I don’t think there’s enough oil on the map lol

oh wow there is enough oil

youll still need more than 10k oil

oh wow you need 42k petrolum coke per min

[green fiber]

A small price to pay for ridiculous amounts of pasta

Use the pasta to make the pasta

[limpid cairn]

hey man, some people want to finish phase 5 in 20 min

[green fiber]

You're already gonna spend multiple hours building that factory

[limpid cairn]

also you need a shit ton of nuclear pasta if you are going to 100% waste free ficsonium, i think at least

[green fiber]

And SAM

Which is why dumping plutonium rods kinds seems more sane

[limpid cairn]

But sinking plutonium seems so boring

[heavy pine]

It took forever for me to finally build my nuclear plant and start sinking the plutonium rods. I think I'd sooner go into the advanced cheat settings and disable the need for power than to go through all that again for Ficsonium.

[shy mulch]

I'd like to expand my nuclear plant at some point but I'm running short on SAM so I won't be able to do ficsonium

[mortal ginkgo]

one could also sloop dem SAM constructors

[next sequoia]

Is a 600m tower in the blue lagoons going to reach height limit?

[latent meadow]

i dont know if splitters should float but they do on my world lol

[sharp mantle]

What are the chances of finding my first coal deposit and it's pure?

[hard ivy]

about 1 in 4

the 2 closest coals in the grasslands are pure

[sharp mantle]

That's the first one in map selection right?

[vale grotto]

Actually plains it's pretty easy as well, 2 out of 3 directions you can go you hit pure coal first

[sharp mantle]

Yeah

I play on that

[sharp mantle]

Well around when i scan for coal only 3 marker pops up

Wonder if one of them is also pure

[vale grotto]

You can open the map and check

[hard ivy]

that's always the case. the scanner shows 3 closest nodes/groups of nodes

[lament niche]

#screenshots message

[sharp mantle]

I know

Why is the map so detailed

[lament niche]

explain this bs

#screenshots message

[sharp mantle]

Huh, are the maps randomly generated or...?

[vale grotto]

Nope!! There's only one map in the whole game

You just get to pick where you start

[peak wasp]

Which spawn is this one?

[sharp mantle]

So the terrain is always the same

[vale grotto]

Yes indeed

For every player in every save

[sharp mantle]

What a shame

[peak wasp]

#screenshots message

Which spawn is that one

Ah okay 🙂

Wait that looks familiar...that looks very close to my northern forest base