satisfactory

[zenith pecan]

I've sometimes had a pump facing the wrong way and wondered why it wouldn't work.

[tacit trellis]

Bro thank God it's not like irl and you don't actually burst pipes lmao

[shy fog]

oh, and 824/1000 heavy modular frames done...

last thing before I have to manufacturer

[zenith pecan]

And the worst of all, I cut a power cable in a refit, that actually shut off the electric to 27 entire buildings, which knocked out my entire nuclear industry once 😄

[peak wasp]

Also how the fuck would this not work?

So question for liquids

[tacit trellis]

Mf did not follow proper LOTO policy

[peak wasp]

If I have one long pipe for liquids in power grids

[tacit trellis]

Wym?

[peak wasp]

I need to pipe 360m3 liquids in a mark 1 pipe

[shy fog]

... that... doesn't work

[peak wasp]

Could I put 240 worth of pumps on one side of the pipe that flows towards the middle and then have the other 120 on the other side of the pipe

[shy fog]

mk1 pipes max at 300

[tacit trellis]

That's how you burst a pipe irl lmao

[peak wasp]

Correct but would I be able to use the machines to eat water as they flow towards the middle

[zenith pecan]

These 27 buildings #screenshots message 🤣

[peak wasp]

Let me show you guys

[next plover]

How do you drop a paleberry with the controller? My daughter NEEDS to tame the doggo lol

[tacit trellis]

Useless fuckin sparkies lmao

[tacit trellis]

Awww

Can't help you but aww that's cute

[peak wasp]

why wouldn't this work?

[zenith pecan]

Suffice to say, after that incident and the resulting mess, I made the power grid a lot more robust, no more single points of failure because that was a disaster.

[next plover]

We tried 'drop' but it just went back into inventory

[peak wasp]

#screenshots message

[honest bloom]

Okay. I feel really dumb to ask this. Since the last great version change I have not been able to start Satisfactory. I am bumbed out. I tried to completely uninstall then reinstall. When I start the game I can only see a magnified opening screen (the top left corner. How do I remove all remnants of Satisfactory? I am guessing that is what I need to do. Thanks in advance.

[tacit trellis]

Gotta follow the proper LOTO procedures before you start work mate

[peak wasp]

there is techinally 360m3 worth of liquids in these pipes...but it doesn't make sense that making the 240m3 side wouldn't get eaten by the 8 power plants on that other side

[honest bloom]

LOTO? What is that?

[zenith pecan]

Pick the correct numbers before the draw?

[tacit trellis]

Lock out tag out

[peak wasp]

like seriously

[zenith pecan]

Oh loto, not lotto.

[peak wasp]

I am so damn confused with how liquids work in this game

[tacit trellis]

Y'all inside workers or smth

[zenith pecan]

I'm a support worker, not an engineer 😄

[tacit trellis]

Bro ain't been on the job site

[peak wasp]

like when you have 8 machines all sucking down 45m3 between the one side and the other wouldn't that mean there is room in the pipes by the time the water meets in the middle

[zenith pecan]

You tried to build an 8:3 but got a bottleneck?

[peak wasp]

yes

[tacit trellis]

Don't you just manifold out from 3 water extractors and then into two trains of 4?

[peak wasp]

which doesn't make very much sense because let me show you how its setup

[zenith pecan]

This is a common 8:3 that I build early game #1368184180332298371 message , the middle extractors output splits two ways.

[tacit trellis]

Does this work?
#screenshots message

[zenith pecan]

A better view after I expanded it, the water pipes are a bit more visible, in this screen it is basically two 8:3's built next to one another #design-and-architecture message

[dense violet]

!wikisearch CG

[zenith pecan]

Bot still stuffed 🙁

[tacit trellis]

CG?

[dense violet]

oi. that's a long down time

coal generator

[tacit trellis]

I gotta redesign my water extractors lmao I over designed for water and I have like 6 water extractors feeding into 3 coal plants lmao

[zenith pecan]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Coal-Powered_Generator , there are layout diagrams further down on the page , blasted bot having days off is bad.

[peak wasp]

ah this is what I ended up doing#screenshots message

which I can add doesn't work

[dense violet]

the link Taro put up has decent beginner diagrams

[dense violet]

it should.

[peak wasp]

right?

[dense violet]

you've done something weird then

[tacit trellis]

Just finish the circle idk?

[dense violet]

don't need to

[zenith pecan]

Yeah, that ought to work, are the water lines primed?

[peak wasp]

primed?

[tacit trellis]

Fill lines with water first before connecting

[zenith pecan]

Shit off a generator or two and allow the water to completely fill, see what happens.

[tacit trellis]

Where tf does the air go when we prime the lines btw lmao

[zenith pecan]

Out of the system never to return I hope, I hate generators coughing.

[tacit trellis]

Bro I really gotta fix my like 8:4 coal plant lmao

[zenith pecan]

I've learned painfully that overbuilding coal is a colossal waste of time.

[plain gate]

pumped out the back of the water extractor :p

[tacit trellis]

That.... Doesn't work tho

[zenith pecan]

My old coal terracem 64 generators, not a good use of time #design-and-architecture message

[tacit trellis]

Holy

I'm probs just gonna set up like 16 tbh

How much coal does a mk2 miner make?

[dense violet]

depends on the node

never calculate by machine. You'll end up screwing yourself

[peak wasp]

priming them now...I am surprised that it wasn't me being dumb but a actually problem

[plain gate]

600

[versed mesa]

Ive got 2 Fuel gens running at this moment

[tacit trellis]

Yeah fill lines before connecting them

And make a couple buffer tanks

[versed mesa]

Am producing what I wanted to start with

[peak wasp]

don't think I have those yet?

[dense violet]

find 3-4 coal nodes and just use all of it for power. 64 is a fairly normal number to have to get you to a decent point for fuel

[zenith pecan]

My first coal usually gets its water filled by me initially powering the extractors with biomass, then I aim for a full black start once the generators are filled and wired, I turn them on.

[plain gate]

yeah a pure node fuels 16

assuming you have the 780 belts

[tacit trellis]

I have like 4 normal nodes

[zenith pecan]

This coal plant was worse, it was built back in update 3, it had 96 generators. #screenshots message

[plain gate]

yeah then thats 32 coal gens

[tacit trellis]

Oh so like just 2 mk 2 miners on 2 nodes

[versed mesa]

Its not easy to get everything right and working ypu need to think about how you going to keep the fuel going

And will not last for ever once storage units are full

[tacit trellis]

Mk 2 containers are so nice for manifolding man

[versed mesa]

Am getting close to me playing for 24 hours and ive been in the sane location for some time now lol

Trying work on my first proper factory well i say proper I did a good job with my starting location is at a sweet spot

Sorry am talking to my self lol

[feral geyser]

As long as you aren't answering yourself too.

[peak wasp]

Systems primed with 800m3 of buffer

[versed mesa]

Hiw do I do that lmfao

[peak wasp]

Testing now

[tacit trellis]

Bro I got a compact steel production line going and it's so fucking nice man #design-and-architecture message

[zenith pecan]

Buffers tend to mask issues.

[feral geyser]

I saw that, that's good

I like compact setups, or rather, setups where belts are hidden under the machine using them.

[versed mesa]

I agree specially when pipes are going up hill you need the buffers to push the juice

[tacit trellis]

Bro I need to build off the ground floor for that shit but like double stacking them feels juicy

[peak wasp]

There shouldn't be any issues

[stuck glacier]

I need someone to DM me the sound of powerplants shutting down when overloaded so I can play them over discord

[peak wasp]

I was told things were done right

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1418037005807386724/image.png?ex=68cca960&is=68cb57e0&hm=e0b741b1db9b721480eb9814f275fb3ca703019cd62bbba57972160314f05218&

[feral geyser]

Diabolical

Just record it yourself, or check the wiki, it might have the sound file

[stuck glacier]

I'll be doing that tonight then

[zenith pecan]

I sort of wish I got a video of me doing what should have been impossible, blowing a fuse on a circuit that only had 18 geothermal generators and 7200 power stores, with a hover pack and a bad decision.

[versed mesa]

Look in screenshots channel

7.2 m3 is not good right lol

[tacit trellis]

After discovering how to manifold by fucking around this shit is op and I gotta use it on all my plants lmao

[marsh garnet]

hello

[zenith pecan]

Load balancing still has a place, typically with either very small systems, or anything moving radioactive parts.

[peak wasp]

hmmm that's strange

[tacit trellis]

Manifolding is so much easier just because you need less brainpower to do it

[hollow onyx]

my HOR refineries are idling because theyre full of HOR but my fuel refineries are idle because theyre missing HOR anybody got tips

[peak wasp]

for some reason the 120m3 pump side's buffer was running down a bit

so I ownclocked it to 130m3 and that fixed it

[zenith pecan]

Definitely, try to avoid doing that with nuclear fuel for reactors though, it'll make the power station take days to fully power on and you get a huge exclusion zone.

[marsh garnet]

how's everyone doing? i was wandering if i can get a hand with train signalling, i tried following guides, but a lotta people seem to have my same problem, everything turns red

[tacit trellis]

I'll figure it out once I get to it lmao

[marsh garnet]

joined here as kind of a last resort ahah

[peak wasp]

no its still running down....wtf is going on

[zenith pecan]

I'm bad at trains I'm afraid, I'm the lunatic who builds world spanning tunnel networks full of conveyor belts like this one #satisfactory-experimental message

[marsh garnet]

fair, i am like barely 100 hours into the game, i am just tryin to get hang of things

[heavy pine]

Oh no, I've run into the dreaded ```Maximum number of UObjects (2162688) exceeded when trying to add 1 object(s), make sure you update MaxObjectsInGame/MaxObjectsInEditor/MaxObjectsInProgram in project settings.

[zenith pecan]

I hate that error.

[marsh garnet]

let that awesome sink in

[peak wasp]

do you like trains?

[zenith pecan]

I only ever really had one train of any success, I just never managed to get the travel time vs throughput thing down which has caused issues so I avoid it entirely with multi kilometre tunnels with belts.

[peak wasp]

https://youtu.be/5DjOL2we8ko?si=CFIaUY55CjEjC4GV

[heavy pine]

Hrm. I could increase that limit, or I could be sensible and remove some of those roads I'm not using. It would seem that the city block method I was planning to use isn't optimal.

[zenith pecan]

Depends on your machine power, I just removed the limit.

[glad drum]

#screenshots message --- Clipping is very helpful.

Never woulda fit a constructer near my HUB without it

[rocky rock]

Now I want to see a phase 5 factory clipped inside the space elevator

Making all the parts to finish the game

[gray garden]

hello guys

how are you ?

[glad drum]

Unfortunately you can't clip too much in the space elevator 🙁 but I also don't know how those people who make blueprints with 10 refineries clipped into each other do that either

So for now I'll just run my conveyors and catwalks through the spaces in the space elevator happily

[zenith pecan]

I have a power store blueprint that I created while drunk, it doesn't fit in the blueprint creator, so no clue #satisfactory-experimental message

[turbid salmon]

100X Elevator parts. Any tried it here?

[plain gate]

not possible

max you can do without cheating sloops is around 35

45? maybe if youre pushing it

[turbid salmon]

Are you suggesting that 100X is impossible?

[wicked nacelle]

What do you mean by 100x? 100x what?

[turbid salmon]

Elevator parts

[wicked nacelle]

But 100x what number?

[turbid salmon]

Base number.

So, all phases all items are 100X what they would be normally.

[wicked nacelle]

Maybe I just came in in the middle of the convo. You can make any number of parts you want the only limit is the rate at which you can make them. I’ve easily made 100x the last elevator parts and probably 10000x the BWDs

[turbid salmon]

Yes, but finishing a 100X run is substaintially harder than a normal run.... like 100x harder.

[wicked nacelle]

The problem with elevator parts is that they’re a count and not a rate. So you can achieve any count with any rate. The only variable is time.

[turbid salmon]

Phase 1 would be 5000 all with biofuel options.

[marsh garnet]

i am really really trying but the way the train intersection breaks makes no sense

[wicked nacelle]

Meh. Just sounds annoying not hard.

[marsh garnet]

i don't know what to do

[wicked nacelle]

Did you post a screenshot with rail colors enabled?

[marsh garnet]

gimme a sec

[wicked nacelle]

Ok. Make sure you’re holding a signal so the rails are colored

[turbid salmon]

The idea would be to finish it in a reasonable amount of time.

[marsh garnet]

i posted it, signals went into full breakdown when i placed down the last tail of the t junction

[wicked nacelle]

Okay so first of all don’t do double signals like you’re doing. Second your signals on the left have the rail split bug. Delete the duplicates then move the signals away from the split/merge a bit

By double signals I mean like how you have 4 on the path going up. Just two.

If the rail isn’t a different color on each side of a signal then you have the bug (almost always)

You just have to move the signals down the track a little

Sometimes it’s legit the track loops into itself but usually not and not in your case

[marsh garnet]

ok i removed the double signals

moving stuff back

[dim flint]

@narrow dirge #screenshots message

how did you make this? It's beautiful.

[wicked nacelle]

Okay now on the track going left move the signals a bit further left

You can also rebuild the track and if you do it enough times that signal placement can work but moving them further back always works

[marsh garnet]

oh my god

it's fixed thanks so much

[wicked nacelle]

Yeah it’s a 1.1 but that they apparently don’t consider a big deal

[marsh garnet]

i would have not expected a freaky train bug

[quiet plinth]

do you guys have any idea how to fix MAM not giving a 4th hand equipment slot? i go back in saves and try again but it never gives me one

[wicked nacelle]

The track will always change color across a signal if it’s built right

[marsh garnet]

thanks man

[wicked nacelle]

Good news is it’s only a bug while building. It will work perfectly forever now

[marsh garnet]

also this server has no voice channel?

[wicked nacelle]

There is one other bug that’s less common where the game will forget a switch is a switch. You just rebuild the incoming track to fix that

[covert sphinx]

pretty sure thats intentional, but I’m unsure why too lol

[wicked nacelle]

Nope. You can always just DM call someone

[marsh garnet]

alr just curious

[wicked nacelle]

I’ve helped a lot of people that way

[covert sphinx]

honestly it’s as simple as clicking a profile and pressing the call button

no need to public vc channels

[jolly lava]

Has anyone ever had a thing where their lights are literally miniature suns, like if you look in their direction they white out your screen

[versed mesa]

How long does 100 pachaged heavy oil last in a truck ?

[jolly lava]

Even from across the map they show up as flares

[wicked nacelle]

Nope. Maybe clear your pipeline cache files?

[jolly lava]

What would that have to do with pipelines?

https://medal.tv/games/satisfactory/clips/l7whXrjPHa9tPiAR-?invite=cr-MSx3SEwsMzk1MTU2MzYw&v=15

[wicked nacelle]

Upipelinecache had nothing to do with game pipes.

[jolly lava]

Mmm I'll try it ig and see

It's multi-player and other players can see them too so ik its not necessarily just client side but def smtn wrong w my files somehow even tho I just did a fresh install

[narrow dirge]

Found from safari lol

[dim flint]

😭

[versed mesa]

My oil factory I was able to super charge everything that currently running

Stocking up on a load of pachaged goods

Even have jetpack fuel alot of it

Forr every produced item they got 5 twin storage units

So a total of like 25 units lol

[solemn crystal]

Good morning

I woke up

From slep😴

[pulsar escarp]

Hey! has anyone deconstructed any battery storage and had their game crash? this just keeps happening to me now

[rose lotus]

is there a non-painful way to make blueprints "belt agnostic"

making a BP of a refinery/assembler/etc setup does not really work well when you then have to spend just as long upgrading all the belts as it would take to build them

and making a variant for each belt tier is not an option because when combined with the various input permutations (direction and presence) then it gets to be an insane number of variants

[cunning siren]

Make 4 versions with 3-6MK belts? 🤷

[rose lotus]

I literally just said why that is not an acceptable option

[cunning siren]

I also make ones that feed and output from front too then feed from back and output from front

The system is imperfect 🤷 what can you do?

[fresh copper]

truck station lol

[cunning siren]

I hear Factorio has a more "perfect" blueprint system, maybe play that game?

[fresh copper]

#screenshots message fix lol

nvm, has to be in docking range. guess i gotta give up on full power stability :(

[upper gale]

There's no other option really. That's why I only stick to blueprints that I know will definitely save me time no matter what. For creating the factories I've been doing it manually and taking it slow

[teal geyser]

At least when I get mk4 belts again, I can load up each of my blueprints in the designer and upgrade the belts

[cunning siren]

If it's not acceptable the option is to leave the situation to one that is, or suffer that is also an option 🤷

[heavy pine]

Got my nuclear power up and running, but ran into a problem with my silica supply; apparently when I futzed around with the converor lift and lift splitters things didn't reconnect quite right, so I wasn't getting any quartz to the silica constructors.

[dim adder]

I never thought I would spend 2 hours doing math for a video games and have fun🫠

[dense violet]

why is using the fastest belt not an option?

[cursive totem]

Thanks it's 480 crude oil input

[vale grotto]

Nice!!
I'm currently working on a power plant of my own, uses 900 oil for 30GW of regular fuel :3

[rose lotus]

because then you cannot build the blueprint until the end of the progression

[dense violet]

I guess? Build with the highest at the time and just upgrade as you go? have some basic sections for refineries, assemblers ect and you're good to go

you really don't need many sections of machinery as you go up the tiers have one for each machine type as you slap things together.

[rose lotus]

??? the highest tier of belt that is always available is tier one

[dense violet]

suuuure... but when you unlock mk5 belt go into hte bp machine and upgrade what you need. It doesn't take long unless you've made dozens and dozens of blueprints

make a BP for Smelters

then upgrade the belts in 10 seconds when you get a new one

[cursive totem]

Yo nice. I'm hoping this will be enough to last us into the late game haha

[rose lotus]

"upgrade everything you have ever built" is not saving any time

the point of blueprints is to save time

[dense violet]

how many bps are you making?

[rose lotus]

???

[dense violet]

if yo'ure making tons of complicated bps as you're just going up the tiers , then you're spending an ass ton of time on them anywya

[rose lotus]

I make my blueprints once and then never again

half of them I made in U8

but that does not solve the problem

[dense violet]

yes, but how many of each machine type are you building? You can easily get away with like 1 bp of each machine type to get your through the tiers

[rose lotus]

per save? hundreds to thousands

[dense violet]

ok so you are creating a giant mess for yourself. Got it

[rose lotus]

no, you need many or you again do not save any time

most machines have many possible logistic permutations

for example take the blender, which is one of the most complex

[dense violet]

do basic permutations until you get mk6 belts. It's very simple

[rose lotus]

what are you talking about

[dense violet]

make a bp of even just ONE machine, with all the logistics connected, and lego them how you like

[rose lotus]

and then that blueprint is invalid for all use cases not needing all the inputs/outputs

not to mention you are also ignoring direction

I have sixteen blueprints for manufacturers alone

for the different combinations of directions

[cursive totem]

Are we actually arguing blueprints are bad rn?

[rose lotus]

and that is just for T1 belts

[dense violet]

what I'm saying though, is if your focus is end tier products and getting to it, you can make a basic refinery bp that is all purpose

if you, then decide to make 100 version of a refinery being fed, then start complaining about the extra work, I'm baffled at what you're valueing here as you are already doing 100x the work than you need to progress

[rose lotus]

except I am not complaining about the variants for the different logistics states

[dense violet]

yes you are, because now you "have to" up grade them

[rose lotus]

I was asking about avoiding multiplying that again by factors of 100 to handle all belt types on top of that

[dense violet]

to avoid the problem you are facing, you actually do less work. Do less work to end up doing less work

[rose lotus]

explain to me how a blueprint can be both low enough tier that you can build it when you need it - ie not only once you unlock T9 - yet also not forcing you to upgrade T1->T* belts if you need any

for example your recipe needs 130/min of something of one type

[dense violet]

make 1 bp for each machine type. do a quick upgrade. when you get a new belt.

you end up with like ... 12? bps

[rose lotus]

but the issue is upgrading everything in world

[dense violet]

you mean already placed things?

[rose lotus]

if I have placed 200 instances of a BP using T4 belts then unlock T5 now I need to go around and click 1800 belt segments

that takes hours

[dense violet]

so your issue isn't with BPs it's that the world doesn't auto upgrade for you

[rose lotus]

and the net time saving is negative relative to just building from scratch

[dense violet]

there's also nothing forcing you to upgrade every belt in the world the factory will keep being a factory and do it's thing

[rose lotus]

at 4% duty cyucle yes

[dense violet]

that goes back to 'don't rebuild all your things' , build new things

but why would you need to rebuild those belts if you aren't heavily modifying them?

like if you extrac 2x as much ore you'll probably need 2x the machiens right?

[upper gale]

Rebuilding is always a lot of work. Do it where it counts

[dense violet]

and if , as it sounds, your problem is upgrade your whole world post building

if you're now extracting a ton more raw resources, you don't actually ahve to upgrade your belts

split the ores at the node and use your old BPS

[rose lotus]

the issue is not when upgrading resource extraction but when unlocking a new belt that is "needed" for an already-built factory

very frequently you unlock recipes that to use them properly need belts you do not yet have access to

[dense violet]

can you please explain 'needed for already built factories' ?

how did you build these factories w/o what they needed?

[rose lotus]

so you build it with lower tier belts, temporarily bottlenecked

[rose lotus]

and badly

[upper gale]

Yeah that last part. Recently I've been putting smart splitters right in front of my miners (mostly cuz im playing multiplayer but) it's nice to just create a new line branching from that whenever

[rose lotus]

as an example take my current HMF factory - I built it with the highest tier of belt available being 480/min, yet much of its areas need 900/min and several need >1000/min

[dense violet]

Look, you're not going to like this, but you're the one creating more work for yourself.

can you build like this? sure. But it's gonna be a ton of work and you don't have to do this

[rose lotus]

as such it is running at maybe 30% efficiency

[dense violet]

the solution is 'don't do this'.
The reason why people don't generally build like this is probably because of the issues you're complaining about

Build a new system.

or like Xy and myself have mentioned, split the source ore at the outputs and just build another section of factory

instead of building 200 machines now, build 100 machines , then with a higher belt speed, output more ore and build another 100 machines

[upper gale]

Whoa, I mean, if you're building all your factories to be upgraded later, they will have to be revisited constantly

It's kinda cool I guess. But maybe not as practical as expected

[upper gale]

If that's their playstyle though it's fine but it's gonna have to include their own solutions. I know because, I do it to myself sometimes too lol

[cursive totem]

Why would I go back and upgrade existing factories? Building from scratch is so much more fun

Tear it down, make it better

[dense violet]

oh yeah, do what you want, but there's consequences to everything. Some playstyles are painful and you can't make a game that makes everything anyone can ever do a breeze

[upper gale]

So real, some playstyles really are painful ahah. And when you want something done in a certain way

[dense violet]

cough building all on curves cough

[versed mesa]

Its satisfying watching your factory work lol

[upper gale]

Okay at least I didn't subject myself to this hell

[dense violet]

it was fun tbh, figuring out how to design stuff and what you could do

[upper gale]

But it does look cool

[dense violet]

was pretty fast after I got the hang of it

[versed mesa]

What we talking about that blueprint designer

[dense violet]

no, building on curves

[upper gale]

What I'm sayin'!
Sometimes when I'm proud of it I just watch it

[cunning siren]

I tend to enjoy keeping something as simple as possible without effecting performance 🤔

[glad drum]

Man, I bet it'd look really cool to build only curves but maintain a horizontal build - too bad I am enjoying my rollercoaster pasta

[dense violet]

I mean you can do that, but I think the spag would take away from it

[glad drum]

A little - I built it all a bit too close together so it's too hard to see what is going on, but I've evolved and leave a bit more space and it's gettin crazy now

but the horizontal curved-only would be cool without spaghetti i mean

[versed mesa]

Exactly am proud I got it running with 2 fuel gens production on alot of things are finished like pachaged water and pachaged heavy oil and also pachaged fuel is almost finished filling my units up ive got 24 units in total just about all filled up now lol

What can be done with the designer module ?

And also what is pachaged water for is there water machine or something

[upper gale]

You really like packaging your resources don't you

[upper gale]

You can unpackage it later anytime you need water

[versed mesa]

Well i mean mainly stuff with oil have to be pachaged so why now its waa needed to f8gure things out its part of the game lol

[upper gale]

Oh yeah understandable

[versed mesa]

Its actually those big water bottles

[upper gale]

People usually package it for easier transport

[versed mesa]

I was needing canisters also for making computers lol

[upper gale]

There it is lol another oil factory slowly turning into computer factory

[versed mesa]

Well they are there when I need them and when my train takes them more will be make lol

Not sure when ill have a train up and running tbh am scared because idk where to begin

[upper gale]

Keep it real simple and it should work

[versed mesa]

Lol

[upper gale]

Just one rail and two stations (with it's freight platforms attached)

[versed mesa]

@upper gale what am wondering is how do you make them travel high above ground

Wondering is theres more fir train to be unlocked

[dense violet]

wdym?

[upper gale]

Build it a really long ramp. Using 2m ramp foundations

-# Building a spiral is the other way but you'd have to know what you're doing

[versed mesa]

Really can't the train travel across water to another island or something

[upper gale]

Sure it can, if you can get the rail there

[versed mesa]

Wondering how

And where would I travel to lol

Ive been awake now for 24 hour playing lmao

[upper gale]

Likely traveling to a resource node that you need to use. And you'll bring that packaged stuff on the train so you can unload it and make better stuff

[upper gale]

Wow that's some commitment

[versed mesa]

I know ive been staring at the same things for over an hours looking at details with the pipe and checking my production lol

[upper gale]

That's a good habit tbh lol a lot of people don't bother checking

Then they find bottlenecks later

Or they don't find it, then post about it complaining here lmfao

[versed mesa]

Well its only been because today I build this up expecting to be the bees and knees only for it to not power up and do what I need it to but I don't let it beat me I keep trying until ive done it lol

[cunning siren]

Trains are part of the gird but we can not link power poles off the track? Sadge

[upper gale]

The bee's knees! 😹 Hey that's alright you got the right spirit

[versed mesa]

Yeah lmfao

Am in my bed ready to crash lol

@upper gale hopefully ill dream about my oil factory build lmfao

[upper gale]

Probably will after being up for 24h and playing Satis. Have a good rest

[versed mesa]

Yup lmfao

I think they could be getting ready to drop an update

[upper gale]

Yeah can only connect the stations. But some people just make a blueprint with power poles or wall poles with the rail

[versed mesa]

Magic

[cunning siren]

I like that idea AND I dislike that the blue print size is smaller than the longest power connection 🤷. I'm kind of new to blueprints that "auto connect" so I'm not really sure what "does that". Like can power auto connect too? IDK

[upper gale]

Nah power can't auto connect

[cunning siren]

So place a print with a power node in it and manually connect ok

[upper gale]

It feels kinda odd yeah lol

But that's the only way pretty much

But really I just started spamming those tall power towers

(not in a blueprint but)

[cunning siren]

I've played a few games like Factorio and Mindustry that have pretty fantastic blueprint systems so I'm kind of spoiled 😆

[upper gale]

Satisfactory is my only real automation game. But yeah I can def see why you'd feel like blueprinting everything

[mortal ginkgo]

it is indeed the lowest point of this game, the blueprint system that is.

if you are wondering about the lore, devs were against the idea at first because they wanted the feeling of making a factory manuelly to be consistently there other than "plop blueprints and call it a day".

they eventually made this system due to high demand so it is what it is.

if you are interested on mods, there are much bigger blueprint maker sizes too

[cunning siren]

Yea, i recall the debates on blueprints vs "not" and thanks for the mod suggestion that may fix a lot of the issue

[mortal ginkgo]

np, there is also a megaprinter mod which got a ridiculously large one, whereas some progressive ones that go larger as you progress in game. whatever fancies you. 👍

[frail sleet]

That is not a good way to build, and you don't have to build that way - in fact you're making it more difficult and time consuming by doing so

[cunning siren]

Is the one you are talking about the "Blueprint Designer Plus Mod"?

[mortal ginkgo]

I am not a mod user so cant know. there are maby variations so pick from what they say

[mortal ginkgo]

ImKibitz is really a cool guy but he might be one of the reasons people think "make chungus factory, upgrade later" mentality is a good one.

Most people dont know how daunting it is to make such a big factory and checking every belt is properly upgraded etc, not to mention game doesnt even help if you missed a very smol belt piece in that splitter etc

I can definitely understand making mk2 to mk3 upgrading but beyond mk4 I am sure its just frustrating.

[frail sleet]

Yeah, not to hate on the guy as a person or anything - the asthetic design in his vids are great, the factory design is not. Lots of issues and bad choices like that. I was shocked to notice after watching his nuclear series for a while that he chose the wrong recipe for plutonium rods which added like 200 hours and +30% resource cost to the project for no reason

i was watching under the assumption that people who are gonna do an 800 hour build (hell, i'm halfway through one myself) would look into the recipies that are appropriate for their goals before doing so, rather than after - and i couldn't watch the pipe replacement video with all of the pipe crimes being committed, advised and generally misunderstood

[mortal ginkgo]

Yeah, he mostly goes for the "entertainment" and his "booping" is 90% of time where it is extremely tedious and annoying work which most people ignore.

Besides I dont think he cared about plot rod recipe that much and probably chose the most problematic one which may causes issues, which it did and it circles back to entertainment.

[frail sleet]

Yeah i do wish i could boop sometimes

i often do something that could be "booped" and it's like 7 hours of work

I screwed up my Quartz processing and just went with it because i did not have the heart to rip up a few days worth of stuff and try to fill the space with something from another processing stage. Cheap Silica is almost as good as Quartz Purification + Cheap Silica for me.

[mortal ginkgo]

ah yes, the boop magic that we all wish for water piping

also I am unsure how correct he is about using pumps and saying it is to prevent sloshing..

Pumps create pressure when when put horizontally but I am unsure how it solves the manifold issue of pipes.

I dont think he is maxing mk2 pipe usage to a point that sloshing is an issue but dunno

[frail sleet]

I can forgive peeps for not having a full understanding of satisfactory fluids because i am like 70% there and sometimes it's just magic 😄

AFAIK, pumps don't directly impact pressure - but they act as a valve, and they create headlift.

Valves don't create headlift, only pass it on with a delay - and there is actually a valve bug which can cause them to incorrectly nullify headlift which can negatively impact flow

[mortal ginkgo]

dont say this, you will summon "skill issue" folk.

its the same curse as saying "cast screws is a good recipe for beginner to mid game".

[frail sleet]

so basically using a pump as a valve set to 100% is valid

[mortal ginkgo]

are we sure they dont cause pressure?

I saw a test video where 2 fluid tanks were manifolded to another empty one. 1 fluid pipe had no pump and the other one had it.

one with pump had 15% fluid inside while other tank was 85% empty

so the one with pump was emptied almost fully

[frail sleet]

I think static or dynamic pressure no - but headlift is a pathway to many abilities, some considered to be.. unnatural

[mortal ginkgo]

thing is it was all in same level. no headlift.

[frail sleet]

anything going into a buffer is being elevated above the feed pipe/s

[mortal ginkgo]

This is madness I give up.

[frail sleet]

https://i.imgur.com/W7pza68.png

take a look at this

Manifold slosh happens when fluid flowing from B to C locks out fluid that should be flowing from A to C.

This one is pretty simple, B pipe gets more full and thus more pressure than C because it takes more fluid than it can drain out the other end.

[mortal ginkgo]

I will go live in mountains.

[mortal ginkgo]

oh I know. its just that...

[frail sleet]

the headlift priority stuff i am not even gonna pretend to understand 😄

There's a VIP junction which is.. not exactly bugged, at least not taking advantage of the classic vertical junction bug, but it has a valve on the low prio connection and a pump on the high prio connection

and i think it basically works by screwing up the headlift propagation

which has some trouble going through lots of pipe objects and through valves, especially multiple valves in series

[mortal ginkgo]

https://youtu.be/uLTxxzuPZhM?si=UZMlQ5c9DRBRAiGf

can you check at 3:58 mark?

this is what I mean where a pump is causing full priority almost

even as horizontal

[restive knot]

Is my math off or do I get more copper ing per ore on pure ingots than I get on on leached ingots?

[frail sleet]

Pure beats leached for material efficiency except on caterium, where you can trade sulfur for caterium

[restive knot]

why would you balance it that way I mean water is effectively free

[frail sleet]

iunno

[mortal ginkgo]

there is a valve to prevent that flow direction tho

[frail sleet]

Yeah it's tricky! That experiment is not well controlled though, the pipe capacities before and after the pump/valve are different

but yeah there is something with liquid priority and headlift

that only really seems to affect things when there are multiple competing liquid sources with different amounts of headlift, though.

e.g. if you're feeding 600 with 500+500 it might eat 500+100, instead of the 300+300 you would expect

[mortal ginkgo]

are they? didnt he just booped the video to show the end result?

[frail sleet]

What i mean is, e.g, having a 4m pipe + valve + 6m pipe actually behaves differently than 5m pipe + valve + 5m pipe

if it affects the experiment significantly or not, i dunno - but it's best to control for that

i believe that the liquid priority stuff is based on headlift and headlift propagation rather than directly in the static and dynamic pressure calcs

that's the understanding i got from the guys looking at the code, and there's ingame evidence of that with e.g. adding a pump not increasing flow rate at all in most scenarios

[mortal ginkgo]

leached copper uses almost 2x less refinery so you win in power and space.

you also win on not caring about water and its setup.

space and power is not an issue end game so the only reason to use leaches copper is if have spare sulfur or sulfur nearby, or you dont want to lose sanity with pipe setups.

It is still a meh recipe due to sulfur not being around a lot naturally and is used by end game recipes so take what you will and yolo.

[mortal ginkgo]

ah I see.

anyway I give up regardlesss

mountains call for me

I just think headlift is increased regardless of a pipe or pumps location

and junctions care about that "fake headlift bro"

ah, a bug. now it all makes sense

[frail sleet]

most of the others use the vertical junction bug and he just doesn't realise

[mortal ginkgo]

Aeryn. I am at work bro. Please dont cause a borken fuse in my head.

[frail sleet]

the pump vs valve one doesn't, and i think that's headlift related (which comes into play when choosing which of multiple fluid sources to draw from when all of them can't fit)

[mortal ginkgo]

I think thats his point that he is NOT using vertical joint connection

the one that I stated in time

it is not about verticality at all

yet using a pump causss extra "fake headlift" which creates priority for that horizontal connection

[frail sleet]

https://static.satisfactory-calculator.com/data/blueprintsInGame/c/5/5/b/c55bf5fb7aed23d8087a7248bbfdc65867efa174-3.jpg?v=1714161758

This works but also has buffer magic(tm)

[frail sleet]

Yeah, i think it only comes into play when you're trying to jam 1200 of something into a 600 pipe 😄

and the game is choosing which 600 to take

I'l have to play with aluminum some more

[mortal ginkgo]

you know what, I am done.

New solution: each machine gets their own water extractors and direct connection.

no manifold, no pump, no weird fluid shenanigans.

you need water? you get water extractor right beside you.

Yes.

[frail sleet]

refinery centipede

[mortal ginkgo]

yes. new term. refined water.

[frail sleet]

refinery 5 runs on waste from refinery 4 which runs on waste from refinery 3 which runs on waste from refinery 2 which runs on waste from refinery 1

waste asymptotically approaches zero

[mortal ginkgo]

yes. you are hired. get to work

I dont care anymore and obviously ficsit doesnt either

we will talk once again when water is a finite resouce in game, if it ever comes to that

👍

[restive knot]

You still need water for the acid lmfao

[mortal ginkgo]

Oh hell.

Maybe not as much as the pure one.

I am just trying to defend a F tier recipe cut me some slack will you brotherman

[restive knot]

Still need to move a liquid from a to b and have water in it somewhere xd

[mortal ginkgo]

REEEEEEE-

[restive knot]

xd

#screenshots message

I think Im good on water

[elder jackal]

👉 Hey everyone, I'm running a small survey on my YouTube channel that you might be interested in. If you have a minute, please follow the link (http://youtube.com/post/UgkxQKyMyUxyxETV5EN8AGmKB1Odcf1nuxg5?si=GvziCYWtJ77LXLxz) and choose your answer to the question:

What would you like to add or remove from the trains in Satisfactory?

[mortal ginkgo]

funny enough you can use copper alloy instead which uses iron and iron is everywhere anyways

[cunning siren]

Learning all the quirks of this game takes a long time it seems 🤔

[restive knot]

I dont even make iron ingots on the spot because I need ore in everything else anyways so I just bring the ore lol

[cunning siren]

It seems more reliable to build splitters and mergers directly on the ends of lifts than it does to attempt to connect them otherwise 😆

[restive knot]

You just dont need copper ore in anything so I bring ingots xd

[restive knot]

I usually build the splitter first and then connect the lift but thats only because I prefer the look that way the other looks too clippy imo

[mortal ginkgo]

I think same can be done with cat ore as well

[restive knot]

Im still missing 2 alternates there but for now yes
I got all till T8 so far am I gonna make ingots with power shards or what lmfao

[cunning siren]

Yea, I've found that to be not always reliable "quirky" sometimes it connects and sometimes not 🤷. I'm gonna use floor holes and connect directly on ends now as it's a "sure" way to make it work

[mortal ginkgo]

if you want to build a merger or splitter on an already built lift, it lets you build it directly on lifts location which can save space and time. otherwise sure, yolo dare I say

[restive knot]

I know that but I dont like the looks therefor: L + Ratio + touch grass

[mortal ginkgo]

you need to hear that "click" sound

[cunning siren]

Yes that is a good tip AND sometimes even then no joy

[mortal ginkgo]

you won another "REEEEEEE-". Thank you for your time.

[mortal ginkgo]

there is this bug that happens with lifts that their connect just refuses to work. Its like they go permanent sleep mode and only way to fix it is making a belt by dragging from that input or output

it happens extremely alot if you try to make lifts by using belt supports that have no belt on them

where you want to make pretty lifts that are not possible, such as small distance ones etc

[restive knot]

wasnt there a build mode that automatically places belts between my manifolds?

[rustic hare]

blueprint (auto-connect)

[cunning siren]

Yea, I'm messing around with infinate lifts from a sky train 200m up and having all sorts of wonkyness

[restive knot]

Where do I activate it? I cant seem to find it

[mortal ginkgo]

press R when playing blueprint

you still need at least one belt sticking out of your manifold

[restive knot]

Oh man all the buttons listed on the bottom and I fail to see the big field in the middle

#screenshots message

this should do, no?

[mortal ginkgo]

belt needs to stick in as well

so both sides should have a belt

[restive knot]

wdym?

they do?

Or you mean the belt wont connect into the splitter?

[mortal ginkgo]

thats what I mean.

auto connect does not know if those splitters etc needs to connect if there is no belt, at least a small one

so both splitters need to stick their tongue out if you want them to kiss

yes, I used adult themes to explain. live with it.

[restive knot]

But that screws with my ✨ aesthetics ✨

[dull flare]

then build it by hand

[restive knot]

Im 26 Ive seen people kiss before

[mortal ginkgo]

you can delete the sticking out belts after finishing your design. I believe in you brotherman

[dull flare]

weird flex but gg?

[mortal ginkgo]

woah, I am sure you saw some naughty hand holding too. You can do this!

[feral geyser]

Two girls kissing

Shit this isn't google

[gleaming owl]

Is there a europe based merchandise shop?

[restive knot]

There are a lot

Idk if any of them are satisfactory themed though

[gleaming owl]

yeah sorry for not being clear but I mean for statisfactory

I was thinking since its a swedish based studio it would maybe also produice in EU

[reef basin]

well they don't make their own merch

[cunning siren]

What is the trick to getting floor hole mounted lifts to connect "more flush" by one nudge to factories? Sometimes it does not seem to work?

[mortal ginkgo]

nudge down your foundation with floor hole, put 1m foundation on your nudged down foundation

than put another floor hole as a decoration

you can also nudge up your machines if that tickles your fancy

[gleaming owl]

💔 $22 for EU Shipping and Taxes for the Mug

[cunning siren]

I think not understanding this was the "wonkyness" i was talking about before 😆

[mortal ginkgo]

Guys I just witnessed a tragedy that words cant express my sadness: I just put 6 berries as a decoration to where my lizard doggos are.

They.. They consumed them! No remorse, no second thoughts! Berries are gone.. just like that.

...

[lament pike]

Hey, i found many reddit posts about factories going idle for no actual reason. Many of them states it's caused by hoverpack. I do not have a hoverpack, I don't even have it researched yet now that i finally got to my first oil extractor and refineries the whole thing goes idle for some reason. The worst of all is I can only restart it by re selecting the recipe in each single refinery BY HAND. Any solutions for this bug?

[sour vessel]

are the refineries' fluid outputs overfilling?

[shy mulch]

99.9999% chance you've got byproduct backed up

A machine won't operate if its output is full

[lament pike]

Why doesn't it say that instead of idle?

[shy mulch]

It is idle, because it's not producing anything

You can see the outputs on the machine

[lament pike]

Yeah but for a newbie thats no reason 😄

What am I even supposed to do with the heavy oil residue?

[shy mulch]

That isn't telling you a reason, it's telling you a state. It's either idle or active

send the heavy oil residue to another refinery and process it into something else

probably best option is to turn it into fuel, and send that to a fuel generator which will make you some more power

[lament pike]

Okay, thanks, I'll try

[sour vessel]

you can also send some to a packager to get fuel canisters, which are more efficient at powering things like your chainsaw/jetpack/vehicles

[lament pike]

I think I don't have a packager yet

[sour vessel]

in my factory, i have the heavy residue go into the packager first, then into 2 fuel gens (that don't have a 100% uptime just to take care of the excess)

[lament pike]

Yeah, no packager

[sour vessel]

unlocked in tier 5, the fuel is worth it imo

[shy mulch]

you can unlock packaging at the same tier you are already in, it won't take you long

[boreal musk]

everyone had a problem where everytime you save a blueprint, it doesnt actually save until you reload your save?

[sour vessel]

for reference, one biofuel lasts just under 3 seconds in the jetpack, packaged fuel lasts 5

[cursive totem]

are you on a dedicated server?

[boreal musk]

chainsaw only accepts solid biofuel

[boreal musk]

singleplayer

[sour vessel]

you are correct, my bad

[cursive totem]

hmm ok then not

[lament pike]

yeah it would be pretty easy if the factory wouldn't idle itself 😄

[sour vessel]

for now, just turn the excess into residual plastic/rubber

[hasty lion]

what do you guys think could be in 1.2?

[leaden turret]

boat physics but no boats

[reef basin]

removed hypertube cannons

[sour vessel]

more trains me hopes

i like trains

[vale grotto]

God I hope it's more trains
I would pay like $15 for a DLC that literally just adds more decorative variations on trains

Give me different models of train that don't function any differently but just look nice and I would pay without hesitation

[sour vessel]

gimme diesel electric trains instead of monorails

gimme diesel hydraulic too

[vale grotto]

Gimme monorail diesel electrics

[sour vessel]

I wanna drive a DE6

[vale grotto]

Gimme trains that I can power with solid fuel input into the train station

[leaden turret]

liquid fuel trains would have to be supplied with packaged liquid fuel, otherwise you'd not be able to refuel them when you're manually driving them around

[sour vessel]

Just allow the packaged fuel to be used as a liquid input (trains only)

[vale grotto]

Could have a spot in the menu when you click on the train that lets you manually insert a packaged fuel yeah

[dusky plume]

biplane

[sour vessel]

(no ik that's not a feasible solution but one can hope)

An S060 would be fun too

steam trains to cut down on (nonexistant) pollution

[leaden turret]

you want to cut down on pollution by... burning fossil fuels?

[sour vessel]

Exactly! :D

[vale grotto]

I want steam trains that you can refuel with a fluid steam input into the station

[sour vessel]

(less carbon footprint than refining oil)

[peak wasp]

legit thought teh post was loading

[vale grotto]

Gimme a boiler that turns water into steam that I then pipe into trains

[dusky plume]

nightmare mode where it's dark longer and the spiders come out to degrade your factories

[sour vessel]

uhm, that'd not last long, unless we're talking a giant steam tank on the train

hence why steam locomotives have water tanks, which boil into steam to power a turbine to produce torque

[leaden turret]

unlike the real world, there's no transmission loss in pooting electricity through cables & electrified rails

[sour vessel]

my immersion 🫠

[pliant prawn]

time to handcraft a ton of canistters! sulfuric transport loop almost ready lets goooo

[sour vessel]

why transport packaged when you can use liquid cars? 🤔

[pliant prawn]

Drones

[sour vessel]

ahhhh i see

I have yet to get drones

[shy mulch]

Drones are a lot of fun

[vale grotto]

Oh I know it wouldn't work and would be stupid but counter point: it would be sick as hell

[sour vessel]

I still need to automate modular engines and the other thing

[pliant prawn]

verry fun. First time really messing deeply with a packing and unpacking line, so its been a good time

[leaden turret]

I prefer to call them people #1201555265942724758

[leaden turret]

liquid cars evaporate when left out in the sun

[sour vessel]

I want drones, but I'm producing 25 versatile framework/min, while making 0 of the other 2 spelevator parts a min 😔

[pliant prawn]

I need to make soo much lol. In phase 5 but only just working now on nuclear power. these converters, encoders, and accelerators are hungry haha

[sour vessel]

I can't wait to conquer aluminum, it sounds like a fun process 😁

[shy mulch]

Always worth building a large and robust power grid, so you never need to worry about power when working on space elevator parts

[sour vessel]

I've got 8 fuel gens and 12 coal gens running 100% of the time

i could probably up it, but i just tore down my starter iron factory to repurpose it for modular engines

[pliant prawn]

ah yissss. let the rebuilding happen

[barren dove]

Do drones see droneports as sector hights?

Been testing with one to see how it will fly and went down to the flightpath in the sector. Built about 10 more set them up and now they all fly up and over the ports 🤦 while it was designed to fly down like the test port 🤣

[shy mulch]

fuel scales really well, so you can quite easily create a large amount of fuel gens with a relatively small amount of oil

[sour vessel]

unfortunately i no longer have my iron plates automated, so i need to get that fixed for my beautiful foundations

[pliant prawn]

If you have the Awesome Sink program going, I suggest getting the concrete foundations. Don't need plates for them!

[sour vessel]

but those aren't visually appealing to me

[pliant prawn]

fair enough. I just find them easier to work with. the lines are easier to aim with

[shy mulch]

God, mergers/splitters placed on conveyor lifts are really annoying to work with. I get them working eventually but there's so many strange little quirks. I hope they get made a bit more intuitive/flexible in the next update

[faint reef]

does anyone else dreading starting a new game beacuse you have to collect every somersloop, mercer sphere and hard drives again? I have done it on two playthroughs now and I just cant get myself to do it again

[reef basin]

you can AGS them in your save if you want to skip it

[faint reef]

ags?

[reef basin]

advanced game settings

[faint reef]

wow i never even opened this setting before lol

[reef basin]

no there's no size difference, they are all 8x8m

height is 1/2/4m

but do you know what specific point the mod counts as "foundation position"?

then that information is basically useless 🙂

which is possible, but then again - do you know what the game counts as position of foundation? the point can be anywhere

[shy mulch]

I did notice something a bit strange, there is a very tiny mismatch in heights, it gets worse as I go higher, where a factory that includes 1m foundations doesn't line up nicely with vertical splitters, it's tiny tiny differences you can barely see, but it's just enough to prevent a straight belt being placed. Not sure if it's an issue with 1m foundations or with vertical splitters, or both, but there's definitely something weird going on. I'll need to investigate more to figure out what exactly is causing it. I'll post a screenshot in a min

[reef basin]

can also be just decimal shenanigans

[undone kestrel]

I noticed this with a stack blender setup I made. Very frustrating but I just made it so I can't see it 😂

[shy mulch]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1418172229497389117
On the lower floors it lines up perfectly, but each splitter as I go up the factory becomes a tiny bit more offset than the one below it, after 2 splitters I can no longer place a straight belt and need to move the left a bit further back so I can have the belt on a bit of a slope up to the vertical splitter. Second image is what it looks like on the 6th floor.

[boreal musk]

thanks, now i cant unsee it for the rest of my life

[vestal cedar]

Anyone else get the bug where the M.A.M. 200 Silica research doesn't grant the +6 Inventory Slots?

[solemn crystal]

You can allign it perfectly if you use the normal floor as an aligner then add foundation below

[shy mulch]

So the 1m floors aren't the exact same top level? If I place a 1m floor on top of a 4m foundation and PgDown it down 1m, the top of both will not be exactly the same?

[brazen swallow]

those who've finished phase 4 - how long did it take?

[boreal musk]

20hrs (my fastest)

[solemn crystal]

Uhh like 5

I was speedrunnibg

Didnt take too much time to think and i already had a plan in mind

[brazen swallow]

i've been making a factory for 2 days just to get 1 half of the first item in phase 4

[solemn crystal]

thats normal for non speedrunners or new pioneers

[brazen swallow]

yea it's my first playthrough

[solemn crystal]

makes sense

I took 100+ hours for phase 3 back then and i still didnt have a fully efficient factory

[vestal cedar]

I've got coming up to 900 hours in game (not in my current world, just started) but I've never finished the game. Found spending a week building a factory for 1 item kinda wasnt what I was looking for back when I use to play a lot

Now that I'm incredibly bored, it's the perfect game to play. A week of doing something to get a small output, result!

[solemn crystal]

Try shapez & shapez 2, its basically free play satisfactory and has difficulty settings

And unlike satisfactory, products have infinite variation

[vestal cedar]

I just wish my game wasnt bugged rn

gunna have to probably restart my world to fix

or mod it

[solemn crystal]

Thats bad.. try reloading an autosave?

[vestal cedar]

tried

didnt work

[solemn crystal]

Maybe its the game itself

[vestal cedar]

maybe

But not getting the inventory upgrade is a little annoying

[solemn crystal]

Take the save and store it somehwere safe, then reinstall satisfactory, put the save back in, and try

[solemn crystal]

Thats the bug?? Its a coding issue then

[vestal cedar]

I aint reinstalling satisfactory on my internet.

[solemn crystal]

Fine, are you or

[vestal cedar]

I did the 200 silica M.A.M. research for the +6 inventory slots. It took the silica, completed the node in the tree, but didnt give me my inventory slots

[vestal cedar]

epic

[solemn crystal]

Then go to the 3 dot thing on the game, then hit Verify Files

i think rhats where it is

it basically checks for any corrupted files

[vestal cedar]

Verifying now

completed, gunna load the world see if they're there, if not revert 45 minutes and do the research again

Nope, not here, gunna revert

Well, nevermind, because I reverted twice already and the game continues from that save, I have no save of before doing the research unless I revert 3 hours ago lmao

well, time for mods I guess

[unkempt blade]

throw it in SCIM and undo the research you're having trouble with then try again? 🤷

[vestal cedar]

what is SCIM?

[solemn crystal]

Satisfactory calculator

Webpage

Basically a save file editor

[unkempt blade]

And if you've put a lot of time into the save I'd say maybe just ignore the bug and keep going. 6 slots of inventory isn't going to make or break the playthrough especially with dimensional depot now

[boreal musk]

just use 300+ inv slot mod, you will never have to worry about it again

[solemn crystal]

Dude thats just a fuking DD

[boreal musk]

my 120k concrete says otherwise

my 1200/min concrete depot cant keep up

[primal pecan]

why does the APA have a conveyor input, what goes in there?

[zenith pecan]

Tho poer boosty things, they up the power boost from 10% to 30%

[limber atlas]

what’s the appeal to using 2m and 4m foundations instead of 1m

[leaden turret]

twice and four times as awesome as 1m foundations

using multiple 1m foundations to raise up something a bit when one single 2m or 4m foundation would be a bit odd

[hard ivy]

1m look too thin and 4m look too thick. I use 2m everywhere

[reef basin]

build more depots 🙂

[frozen ingot]

and possibly more concrete 🤣

[hard ivy]

Yeah, I only need the inventory space when dismantling a lot of BPs because messed up placing them

[frail sleet]

if you're doing a 24m high ceiling do you put 12x2m

[hard ivy]

I haven't built a single ceiling in my Satisfactory life

[leaden turret]

if I'm doing a 24m high ceiling I use 6 walls

[barren dove]

Lets build the last elevatorpart from scratch they said, it will be fun they said 😭

[frail sleet]

the ingame walls are not load bearing tho

so looks very weird

[unkempt blade]

sure they are, my floor hasn't crashed to earth Mirage once yet

[leaden turret]

Intersperse the walls with pillars

[unkempt blade]

could also probably double layer walls with the half foundation if you want them to look chonkier

[primal pecan]

the power matrix?

[shy mulch]

Might just be my graphics settings or something, but I find sometimes if there's a large flat wall at certain angles it glitches and becomes transparent

Kinda ruins the vibe of having a big monolithic building if you can suddenly see through it

[hard ivy]

Use foundations as walls lol

Actually, aren't there half foundations?

Your walls don't even need to be 8m thick

[zenith pecan]

Yeah, I had a blank spot in my memory, was halfway through tearing down a laptop at work.

[vital mango]

Hello ^^

[indigo pine]

is there a way to move stuff down in the blueprint designer without rebuilding the whole thing?

[compact dome]

can i make a circular building shape without spending 10 hour

[rustic hare]

yes, there's also quarter corners that you can merge into a round 8m diameter pillar, or even a big concrete pillar for a 4x4m structural component

but yet the game doesn't have SMOOTH CONCRETE WALLS

[dense violet]

sure, there's multiple vanilla methods you can find on youtube

it's pretty quick when you get the hang of it

[compact dome]

ive seen a lot of those cool circular buildings and was wondering do they spend a ton of hours or is it actually simple

[dense violet]

depends.
I consider there being 3 basic type of circular building

1st - just some curved architecture - external stuff like walls, roads ect. Pretty simple and fast
2nd - having some machines on a set of curves. Not too hard as long as you're keeping it to single layers
3rd - multiple interlinking curves that have to line up. You pretty much have to have mods to do it or spend your whole life doing it

[compact dome]

Ohkay, I'm pretty much on my second save since I wanted to have a better start, I started making aluminum and got a hoverpack and that was the end of my first playthrough. I also just built big concrete slabs or just open machinery on the ground with not a single decorated place so I would like to change that too , hence why I'm asking about circular buildings.

[dense violet]

imo, I'd unlock everything first before really getting into architecture

all the awesome shop things, tiers , alt recipes.

then make your own permenent factories and experiment.

this was my 2nd circular build 🙂 #design-and-architecture message

[compact dome]

Nicee, how long did that take?

[dense violet]

150hrs? there's more no in that pic and behind it

faster than my first circular build

[zenith pecan]

I considered circles for my three towers, too fucking hard for a place of that scalг

[compact dome]

my total satisfactory playtime is 204 hours so 150 hours for 1 build is insane

[dense violet]

could just make hte external stuff be curved? wouldn't take much

[dense violet]

this was about 250hrs but it was largely unplanned and redid and learned a ton of stuff https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1265803664891580539/1265892018387943546/272878950_283610647171244_4129288072876743726_n.png?ex=68ccdf50&is=68cb8dd0&hm=b1a65b384af3280133b6c37d13a0d5dfe2d32032584667e2436b89e951f2dc02&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1232&height=740

[zenith pecan]

It would have looked so wrong, a circular exterior with a boring square interior.

[shy mulch]

yeah I've ended up doing that in some places, makes walls kinda pointless though, I end up putting walls on on the foundations just for the look, so the foundations are literally only there to prevent the building being transparent

[dense violet]

nayh, could very much work 😉

[shy mulch]

I don't recognise those curved glass panels, is that a mod?

[hasty lion]

does anyone know if there are mods which allow to upload images to signs/billboards? could really use it for things like advertisings and logos

[dense violet]

!modding

....

damn bot is still dead

[limpid cairn]

Everything is possible

[dense violet]

best to ask in the modding discord

[limpid cairn]

just gotta make it yourself 🤫

[zenith pecan]

Bot still on break - Блять!

[limpid cairn]

#welcome message

this is what @dense violet wanted to link btw

[hasty lion]

well, thank yall, im going to take a look into it

[limpid cairn]

if you are curious about making a mod yourself check out docs.ficsit.app

[hasty lion]

I probably do not know anything about coding which helps me with that

[limpid cairn]

well theres a start for everything

also basic coding skills are enough for modding

[hasty lion]

touche

[shy fog]

final piece of stage 4 (the part I can't manually build) now in the manufacturer

woooo

earlier than I expected

[shrewd palm]

huge

[dense violet]

is your fastest belt mk4?

and you're tryign to move 2 full mk4 belts on one platform?

ok but how many platforms are moving 960?

yeah so first of all , you physically cannot move 2 full belts on one platform

sure, but what happens when a train docks?

the belts stop moving , yes. For 27 seconds

platforms stop loading or unloading while the train is docked. a 27 second pause

[shy fog]

silly mods changing the basic game because you're not willing to do as intended

[dense violet]

also ignore any throughput counters, they're pointless here

[keen dome]

when satisfactory 2

[dense violet]

yeah ignore them

so? they aren't reliable. All the deliveries come in bursts

also, if your limestone is also 2 full belts being delievered in one platform? it's definitely wrong

[shy fog]

the instant you start using mods you no longer have any case here. It's an absolute fact that you stopped playing the game as intended.

[dense violet]

You often can't move more than 1 full belt on a platform. Often less

[mossy quest]

Hello, is the liquid sinking a thing or will be soon ???

[shy fog]

no, you can flush liquid or bottle it to send into a sink

[mossy quest]

i guess i'll just sink petrolum coke then, thanks

[shy fog]

easiest way to sink it initially, later it's better to make fuel generators to eat it

[dense violet]

in any case, you're going to have to redesign your belts and platforms

try 1 belt per platform, and you'll need to properly buffer each platform

[dense violet]

no? why would it be.

then yo udon't need to consume full throughput of whatever you're moving

but it is physically impossible to move 2 full belts of material from one platform

look at the belts when the train is docked. They stop accepting items

[shy fog]

cobalt, he moded, it's not worth time

[dense violet]

oh? yeah, do whatever then

because don't rely on them. gl

[remote depot]

hi, with a friend i just discover i can duplicate item, u know how to resolve this prob to not spoil the game ?

[reef basin]

given you can just enable AGS and give yourselfs thousands of any items, it's not a big deal

the only person you're cheating is yourself

[dense violet]

the one dupe method I know of should have been fixed? afaik you had to build a dupe machine pretty specifically

so the solution is: don't build the dupe machine

[remote depot]

a dupe machine ? i dont need any machine for that

[dense violet]

what effect are yo uusing to dupe items?

[zenith pecan]

What dupe machine, I thought coffee stain fixed that after my last report?

[remote depot]

i just divide them or press CTRL + click and it doesnt remove it from inventory

[dense violet]

same

[dense violet]

so it creates a new stack? you on a server? mods?

[remote depot]

that create new item at the same amount that i got
i'm on a private server and no mod

[dense violet]

ok, just out of curiosity, is this a recent and legal copy? I haven't heard of a dupe bug like this one ever.

[atomic notch]

Cant wait to dupe all my leaves

[remote depot]

recent and legal, i just buy the fame yesterday to my friend

[dense violet]

that's very weird. Have you restarted the server?

[remote depot]

we gonna try, i'll tell if it resolve

[reef basin]

and is still there after a relog?

[dense violet]

we'll find out soon 🙂

[plain gate]

legality doesnt matter regardless lol, bin files arent touched by cracks

[dense violet]

depends from how old a version it's from

lots of old bugs have existed

[remote depot]

restart the server resolve it

[dense violet]

restarts often fix things 🙂

[reef basin]

yeah then it's a networking error or bug, not dupe glitch

[remote depot]

thanks guys

[dense violet]

glad it was such an easy fix 🙂

[feral geyser]

I have experienced a glitch before, I'm not exactly certain how to cause it, but it will duplicate things that are in my inventory's upload queue.

[hard ivy]

kill yourself. no reall, that's how that glitch happens. or rather, when you die with items in the manual upload

[feral geyser]

Cuz usually I'll upload stuff like leaves, wood, berries, etc before logging off, and i have seen them dupe. I actually have like, 8 object scanners rn.

[feral geyser]

Hmmm... it seems to happen even when I haven't died for a while. I think im on 30+ days with no incident (one of my longest runs without death lmao)

I'll have to take note of circumstances and see if I can record it.

[latent meadow]

i curious how many coal generators will a mk1 support with full boost

or should

[feral geyser]

Depends on node purity.

[latent meadow]

mk1 water pipe

[feral geyser]

Ahh, 300/45 (each gen uses 45/min) = 20/3 = 6.6666

[latent meadow]

???

could just give me a simple answer could ya

[hard ivy]

mk1 what?

[latent meadow]

pipe

[feral geyser]

The pipe carries 300/min
Each machine uses 45/min
300/45 = 6.6666

[latent meadow]

oh you did sorry

[feral geyser]

I don't know how much easier to make it.

[latent meadow]

no your right you did

[zenith pecan]

Just make a standard 8:3 with mk1 pipes split.

[hard ivy]

then 6.(6) generators at 100% or 2.(6) at 250%

[latent meadow]

wat do you mean by 8:3 in wat regards you talkinga bout generators to pipes or wat

or you talkinga about geneators to water pump

[cunning siren]

Gens : PUMPS

[latent meadow]

ahh ok ty

[cunning siren]

PUUUUMP it

[latent meadow]

got ya

[zenith pecan]

An 8:3 uses 8 coal, 3 water, and mk1 pipes configured to split the 360 water.

[feral geyser]

If you are using a pure coal vein (120/min), then that supports 8 coal gens, which requires 3 extractors (120 ea = 360/min) to feed them.

[latent meadow]

ok so right now i running about 5

[hard ivy]

extractors, not pumps

pumps do not create water

[cunning siren]

Yea, I was making a joke as there is a song with PUMP it

[latent meadow]

right now it mainly water i having issues with though i always had issue trying to get fluids correct this game

[feral geyser]

PUMP up the JAM, PUMP it UP

[feral geyser]

If you make 3 extractors and split it into 2 pipes, then feed 4 gens (fed with 120/min coal) with each pipe, you're good to go.

[zenith pecan]

I can't link my usual examples, I'm at work on my phone, I really hate using the mobile discord 😜

[shy fog]

hey Speck, I'm on the final item being made right no w

phase 4 will complete today

[mighty rivet]

50 hrs on this world and still tier 3 🙏

[cunning siren]

🤷

Did you enjoy it though?

[azure scarab]

Whats an item, that easy to make, that also gives a lot of fiscit tickets?

[cunning siren]

Silica

Cables, Uranium, Raw Quartz, Concrete, Quickwire, Reanimated SAM, Slooped Alien DNA Capsules, AI Limiter

[mighty rivet]

i am only automating iron rods and plates so far 🙁

[mighty rivet]

but today i will try and automate a bit more as im bored of crafting at the station

[shy fog]

ah, but you gotta know my factory is about the size of two screenshots

as shown here: #screenshots message

[latent meadow]

interestng it seem that for me lenth of the pipe seem to be an issue

[mighty rivet]

mine is just a floating platform with a few smelters and maybe 3 constructors

but when i get trucks i will expand my empire and maybe get 200 iron a minute 😮

[zenith pecan]

Installing windows is already блять, Installing it on 22 laptops one after enougher is epic 💤

[shy fog]

200 iron a minute here is pretty easy...

[mighty rivet]

i cant be asked to make spaghetti conveyors so im trying to find how to use trucks so i can be lazy

[shy fog]

please do not the fbomb

oh trucks is WAY easier than you'd think, you merely need to drive in a circle

[mighty rivet]

do they bug out

[shy fog]

always

want video of it?

[mighty rivet]

how often do i need to fix them

[hard ivy]

using trucks is the opposite of lazy

[shy fog]

never need to fix it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkA-hzzBMmI

just... don't ride without a parachute, or jetpack...

driving is fine though

[mighty rivet]

so should i go through the effort of making "neat" conveyors to my base

[shy fog]

for what item are you shipping to your base?

that's the entire question really

[mighty rivet]

iron ore, copper and limestone

and the other ores

[shy fog]

any reason you need to not smelt ore where it is?

[mighty rivet]

id rather do it in one place

[dense violet]

it gets messy doing it that way, especially if you're new. good to segment your factory

[zenith pecan]

But it's a Б/б bomb not an Ф bomb 😜

[cunning siren]

Sometimes I use ramps and foundations to build sky belt highways 🤷 it's a way to "keep them neat" and out of the way if planned correctly. I also try to do this as little as possible and break the ore into it's desired parts as close to the nodes as I can while allowing for expandability with belt tech upgrades via manifolds

~30 FPS with 7 year old GPU on motherboard 😆, not bad 🤔

Does 60 when I look at the sky

[limpid cairn]

overclocked or normal clock speed?

[feral geyser]

If you move concrete instead of limestone, you only need ⅓ of the belt capacity.

[cunning siren]

Impossible; this is on a micro PC form factor so... basically a super shitty laptop in the size of a book.

Got a 1080 GTX external though, that does ~60 mostly though so, that fixes the CPU and GPU being on the same tiny thermal solution 😆

Games often crash if it's hot outside and I run the internal CPU and GPU both "maxed out" 😭

[heavy pine]

Got my nuclear power running stable. I think my next project will be to collect all the SAM and make it reanimated. #screenshots message

[rigid glen]

Are you storing the waste or processing it

[heavy pine]

Processing and then sinking.

I had a few whoopsies I had to fix; silica supply broke, didn't have MK.2 pipes all along the nitrogen gas line, and wasn't properly balancing the waste.

[cunning siren]

Anybody have experience with the "FICSIT Blueprints Extensions" mod? Says it can cause crashes 😭 not sure I want to deal with that for what it may provide

[unkempt blade]

you don't want to do the "radioactive radius the size of the entire map" speed run challenge?

[dense violet]

ask in the modding discord. Best bet

[rigid glen]

It's way too complicated for me, I don't plan well and mostly build on the fly

[unkempt blade]

then ignoring conveyors and only using factory carts would be perfect for you

[rigid glen]

I'm not an idiot, I do fine mostly up top tier 7

[unkempt blade]

of course you're not an idiot, that's why I think you're a good fit for factory carts

[cunning siren]

I did nuclear one playthrough... I built a massive box network in the absolute highest furthest NW corner of the map. Was a lot of work in comparison to a Rocket Fuel Gen build 😆

[zenith pecan]

My very first nuclear setup was made when waste could be recycled, so I started with a 0 rad 0 waste system.

[cunning siren]

Noice

[pine wolf]

think anyone can help me out? stuck on phase 2 cause I'm wanting to build modular factorys to clean up the area but I have no clue how :>

[cunning siren]

Do you understand manifolds and ratios yes?

[pine wolf]

no :C

[cunning siren]

Ok

I would start there

Ratios: https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

Manifolds: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Manifold

[hollow halo]

I avoided satisfactory cause I was sick, just to play rivals

I’m now back and ready to weep, mainly cause I sound like ass still…

[heavy pine]

I have no interest in Marvel Rivals until/unless they add Rogue to the roster.

She's the reason my default factory color scheme is green and yellow. 😄

[junior crescent]

anyone knows what are the alternative recipes for modular frames?

[dense violet]

check the wiki, full list 🙂

[junior crescent]

I'm tryna help my friend on his save rn

[junior crescent]

ight

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch modular+frame

[dense violet]

of course you'll also want to follow the items backwards, lots of alt recipes all the way up to them

[hard ivy]

bot still broken?

[zenith pecan]

The bot is бorked, has been for a couple of days.

[dense violet]

the start of hte AI uprising

[zenith pecan]

First the AI slop, then the revolution.

[rigid glen]

If they can move my conciousness onto the net, I say let them come

[zenith pecan]

You want to join the raw unfiltered nightmare of AI slop and trolls with no off button?

[cunning siren]

Sadge, Ziplines do not work on 100% vertical wires 😭

[rigid glen]

nah, it would be too easy to find unprotected server(s) and build a hidey hole to work from 😛

[cunning siren]

Wanted a "Firemans" pole 😆

[dense violet]

if you can't fight them? join the slop

[leaden turret]

May 27th, 2025 Livestream
Q&A: We have a Zoopable Ladder, what about a Zoopable fire pole?
https://youtu.be/4vk9F7PSk-A

[rustic pier]

Do you let your devices back up or adjust ratios so they are always producing something even if you have nothing using the parts its producing lol

[rigid glen]

I started adding sinks everywhere to avoid stopped productions,

[dense violet]

depends. Going up the tiers? I let things back up into buffers. get lots of parts and makes it easy to make new productions

after unlocking everything? I make perfect factories

[rigid glen]

Afterf large storage buffers are full of course

[rustic pier]

Currently where i am at? Smart splitters are my friend lol.

[cunning siren]

Either is valid. One allows the option of super lazy mode for power 😆

[hard ivy]

I sink overflow from all production. for the points

[rustic pier]

I know my “overhead” vs “usage” is way higher

Since a majority of my machines are not producing actively.

[cunning siren]

If you want lazy then I would do buffer boxes with no sink + some batteries and let them backup

[rustic pier]

I have recently started adding syncs. When i a lot of a certain part everything after overflows into one so i dont back up the belt

[tacit trellis]

wait lmao you can liquid check your pipes by standing next to them and putting your ear up to it lmoa

that's what i do irl crazy

[cunning siren]

🤔 I've been considering a ultra cheap 5.1 sound system, i've got a lot of content that supports it. I know this game does some of that too

[tacit trellis]

it does really replicate that industrial clang but minus the ear damage

[cunning siren]

OH yea... worked in a Tool & Die factory for ~10 years

[tacit trellis]

idk about a 5.1 system i think it's just like snake oil kinda shit

[cunning siren]

Nothing like a 5 story press smashing down all day

[cunning siren]

Naw, some content has distinct sound channels and now with Dolby Atmos there is even more metadata in relation to position. Most satellite speaker systems separate the sound frequencies in a big way too allowing lower frequencies to be sent to a computer designed box that is paired to the speaker. It can get pretty high tech for very little money. Even some have built in mics and software to automatically adjust to the room acoustics

[shy mulch]

Man I'm having to have so much restraint right now. I could finish my final factory in a couple hours if I don't care at all about how it looks. But I know I'm going to spend weeks on this. I'm determined to not do boring big flat foundation factories any more

I hope it's worth it 😎

[cunning siren]

In my experience If I can enjoy what I am doing now I will not regret it

[crystal siren]

for many people building the factory is the actual fun

[mystic oriole]

not sure if it's fun, but it sure is satisfying.

[cunning siren]

Fun tends to be an illusive metric for most

Not sure what it would look like if "everybody" had it "figured out"

[mystic oriole]

I think gaming is like garage sales. One mans garbage is another man's treasure.

[rustic pier]

I mean i have fun doing it.. i just hate how i cant get out of the box style for it lol..

[heavy anvil]

remember, happiness is merely an illusion designed by ficsit's competitors in an attempt to slow down our pioneers meeting quota!

[white dawn]

Okay hear me out: underclock a Diluted Fuel blender to 60%, add a short packaging loop to either the water input or the fuel output, blueprint it, and you've got a drop-in replacement for your Diluted Packaged Fuel refinery blueprint!

[crystal siren]

I know, so many people struggle to even plan a proper layout for a factory, let alone think of the machines being in a building 😛

[next plover]

I've been psyching myself out. I want to setup a factory but I don't want to delete all the things

[regal lantern]

Just remove all the things and take time

Or build a platform in the sky and move all the stuff there

Then scrap the old when you've built the new

[next plover]

That's a good idea, just build over it

[regal lantern]

Has anyone ever had belts starting to flicker when they've gotten some massive factory/belt setups going?

[next plover]

Flicker?

[regal lantern]

I've gotten to that point, I don't know if it's the wacky amount of resources I'm moving around

[next plover]

Sounds more like your GPU struggling?

[regal lantern]

Yeah, like they're failing to render

Maybe, I don't think it is though

[next plover]

There's a setting for belts that might help

[regal lantern]

I have 48 T6 belts, they don't render properly when I'm moving around

That's all this is lol

[shy mulch]

I mostly like just seeing big numbers 😂 but I'm also looking forward to seeing a cool big factory being finished and not looking like crap

[regal lantern]

I like making some designs work

Even if it's a dumb idea to do in the first place

[next plover]

It's a graphics setting about rendering belt items

[regal lantern]

I wouldn't recommend people package up 28800 water/m to move it to coal plants though

Getting it all to work out is worth the effort though

[next plover]

Getting dumb ideas to work is my favorite

[regal lantern]

And I've figured out some pretty aesthetically pleasing belt layouts in the process

Mostly using curved belts to take a horizontal setup to a vertical one, tends to look pretty nice

[cunning siren]

Try the following Video settings
Upscaling Method: TSR
Screen Percentage: 50

[fleet crest]

I swear the game looked so much better in very early access, why are the textures so blurry or stretched now

[cunning siren]

Maybe you were using diffrent hardware back then vs now?

Different settings, drivers maybe lots of variables

[fleet crest]

well I didn't have the game until update 8 but have been following since update 1 or 2, not sure, but when I look back at older videos of the game, the textures mainly look a lot more detailed than now

now textures are extremely blurry and stretched especially on ore rocks and cliffs

[atomic notch]

50 is pixels lol. 75-80 is good to keep it somewhat visible

[regal lantern]

Just changing it to TSR helped, thanks

I still have it at 90

[fleet crest]

sure the grass was a lot darker back then, but things like ore nodes's surrounding rocks looked a lot more full and crisp, whilst now it's extremely blurry

and I swear there was some polish back then that was lost (probably due to engine upgrades though)

[scenic mirage]

#screenshots message
whys my train stuck? the block signal in the front says block occupied

[cunning siren]

Yea I know it's the lowest setting AND it also is a good way to test if the GPU is the limiting factor in the flicker issue

[atomic notch]

Does tsr actually help? I have it set to none rn

[shy mulch]

I'd guess the block is occupied. Can't see most of the track from that angle

[green fiber]

Well? Are there other trains on that track at the bottom ?

[fleet crest]

and no it can't be hardware since it was a significantly different style to today, what I'm talking about is the overall graphical fidelity of the game going down over the years

at least in my opinion

[cunning siren]

Maybe

[fleet crest]

textures are just stretched and blurry in places and I don't quite know why

[cunning siren]

It can make it "better" or "worse" depending on the situation and what you are qualifying as "better" or "worse"

[fleet crest]

ima try taj's graphical overhaul mod later, it seemed like it increased the textures' resolution

[peak wasp]

It could have been a development decision to use lower res textures on unimportant items to free up some processing and memory

[limber crag]

Might have been some of the optimizations. It used to be more cinematic in the distance. They do seem to opt for more atmospheric haze and fog now.

Keeping rendering distances down was probably necessary for consoles too

Traveling by hypertube tends to be the most picturesque rendering imo.

[scenic mirage]

nope, just the one behind it

[scenic mirage]

the rest of the track is empty

[green fiber]

the signal for some reason doesnt think so. have you checked the color of the blocks?

[strange basalt]

Is Turbo fuel worth it for generators in tier 5-6 or is it a waste of time to make it into turbo fuel?

[cunning siren]

My GPU hates DX12 😆

[strange basalt]

What GPU is it?

[cunning siren]

1080 GTX (non-TI)

[strange basalt]

I have a RTX 3050

[green fiber]

GTX 1060 here. Its fine with DX12 in my case

[cunning siren]

I gain 10FPS with the switch to 11

[scenic mirage]

#screenshots message

[spice patio]

Make #1038092680493801533 thread, specify your GPU too.
Not going to past the screen size instruction blocks here.

[green fiber]

so it just loops back to the station's backside?