satisfactory

[upper gale]

R.i.p the newbies that don't know coal power is a thing and end up spending a lot of time in the early stage

I remember trying to make everything work with just the burners that were attached to the hub

[boreal musk]

at least you know you can centralize power instead of using one burner each for every production line

[upper gale]

Kept thinking, I must be doing something wrong, like using too much power. Maybe I'm supposed to optimize my machines to be under the limit of these two burners

[upper gale]

Mhm

[cunning siren]

I get the impression the game is sometimes designed to "invoke pain" in order to offer "learning opportunities" 😆 I know others have said the same opinion

Part of me wants to try and speedrun min max and another part want's to enjoy what I'm doing now 🤔 maybe both parts can work at the same time

[upper gale]

Here's another dumb thought I had when first starting: "If this automation game didn't give me a way to split conveyors already, it must mean that's not a feature in this game. They probably want me to build in a different way than to just be able to split resources into everything"

[plush dawn]

i knew alot before starting the game so i went for coal as soon as possible and only ended up handfeeding 5 bioburners max

no autofeeding bioburners ever

[upper gale]

The early game is made so strangely imo. It's like you enter with the premise that you're supposed to build factories but not given all the basic tools to do so right away

I mean you can unlock them really fast

But it's like am I supposed to make these silly builds first

[boreal musk]

thats why its called progression lol, you unlock more mechanic the more you progress

[plush dawn]

its the issue i get in all factory games, survival? handcrafting? what are those? i just want belt go brr, miner go grr and drone go whirr, and most importantly train go choo

[upper gale]

Builds on the grass and stuff too

[boreal musk]

even factorio wants you to do other stuffs first before being able to research splitters

especially with 2.0 space age overhaul

[cunning siren]

I know how to speed run Factorio I have not a clue how to do this game 😆 it's a friken mess for that IMO

[fallow oasis]

quick question that isn't worth a post on help section, what does it mean when icons on the map turn yellow? like my HIUB and Player?

[boreal musk]

visual bug

[upper gale]

Yeah bug, it might resolve if you open your map a few times

[fallow oasis]

ok thank you, i was so confused lol

lmao yup just reopened and it's fine

[boreal musk]

just dont make it a habit where you open map every 2 sec and you will be fine

[cunning glade]

Has anyone tried fsr4 on 7000 series for this game

Idk what fsr is stock

[versed mesa]

How do I remove something without dismantling it ?

[solemn crystal]

"how do i move without moving"

your best bet is copying the settings of the building

or if its a big storage container, empty yur inventory

[versed mesa]

@solemn crystal what about electricity storage unit that has ekectric still in it ?

[steady cedar]

Well that will be just lost

[versed mesa]

Damn

Sucks

[peak quail]

what is happening in the hub rn

[steady cedar]

Party

[versed mesa]

Lol

[peak quail]

but why

[solemn crystal]

its like dismantling a fluid buffer so it will be lost

unless you become a fucking car battery, stand next to the battery and charge yourself, then wait another hour at the other station, only then you can move electriccity

[peak quail]

btw if u kill the blob pinjata in the hub knokoff swedish candy comes out

[solemn crystal]

@peak quail what is a piooner

[versed mesa]

Lmfao

[boreal musk]

1.0 anniversary

[solemn crystal]

guys what if we can use the battery item as like mini pockets of electricity

for example like 10mw for a minute

or its like the power storage

where it stores 10mwh instead of 100mwh to make the power storage more reliable but the battery item more mobile

[smoky forge]

for hoverpack

[solemn crystal]

that could work, but that just makes it a better jetpack by then

[spice moon]

Isn't 10 kinda small?

[solemn crystal]

you can stack batteries easily

like imagine carrying 100 in 1 slot in ur inventory

[smoky forge]

bateries if you automate em are eaily available in mass

[solemn crystal]

ngl i woudnt be suprized if 1mwh is plausible

because you get a crap ton in late game

[spice moon]

Oh. I did not realize you meant the item. For some reason I thought you wanted to turn the big batteries you can build into consumables lol.

[solemn crystal]

thats the power storage, i already said this up here

[solemn crystal]

^

[spice moon]

Oh. I can't read. Gonna blame it on too much math.

[solemn crystal]

...............................

okay..??

[cunning siren]

There is no IRL logic in how "limited" the hoverpack is with it's tether to the power grid 🤷 if you can carry thousands of bottles of compressed fuel then why not a portable electricity generator? 😆 Sometimes IRL logic does not = game logic

[solemn crystal]

i mean i like to imagine the hoverpack is powered by the same tech as wireless chargers, only instead of an area, it shoots a laser to the hoverpack that charges it, like how a company is trying to do that to power phones from across the room, and we can physically see the laser shoot

[leaden turret]

personal pocket dimension, you're not actually carrying it

[reef basin]

1mwh is like one power storage 😄 (not battery, battery is an item)

[cunning siren]

Current IRL tech "massive drones" use traditional aviation fuel and not battery tech anyway 🤷 and can run all day on a single "tank", so not really logical comparison to the game

[dense violet]

so bio fuel in a bio burner?

[abstract heron]

Me dancing to the music

[ebon marsh]

ik i should do this on the lfg but can anyone help a bit in my satisfactory world?(im not asking on lfg bc sometimes it takes a lot of time for ppl to respond)

[spare crow]

my god, why is snapping blueprints SO broken in this game

[true mulch]

If noone responds in lfg then noone wants to play

[solemn crystal]

inventory

[ebon marsh]

ig ur right

[solemn crystal]

not bui;ld

[dense violet]

no I mean that's what bio fuel is

you builda bioburner, stick bio fuel, got temp power

basically a chemical battery

[cunning siren]

Snapping blueprints broken? 🤔

[spare crow]

if you have any diagonal elements in one they just stop lining up at some point, nudge goes sideways

like it doesn't know what object to use as a snap axis and decides randomly

[glad drum]

#screenshots message @grave burrow PLEASE TELL ME HOW YOU DID THIS --- I think I did something similar with a splitter recently (it doubles back on itself somehow) but I have never been achieve such a BENDY BOY

🙏🙌 🍝

[grave burrow]

Yeah it can be tough but 180 degree belt bends are possible in curve building mode. Nearly impossible while flat, I've found it's more forgiving if you can make it as steep as possible while curving it. I've blueprinted several insane turns so far lol about to release a video showcasing the absolute insanity you can do with belts and bugs lol

[solemn crystal]

exactly, but inventory edition

[glad drum]

I'll give it a try! Have you found its easier to accomplish when coming from a merger/splitter or anything or do you just kinda have to find a sweet spot through trial and error?

[solemn crystal]

it could be a good idea considering batteries are lategame

[dense violet]

it would be pretty pointless

[cunning siren]

Tethering to "the grid" seems to be a common game theme and has lots of stuff built around that mechanic. It's likely intentional that it's not that simple to generate power "remotely". I guess if you wanted to make a massive bio gen blueprint and dump fuel into that 🤷 that would do what you want

[grave burrow]

Everything I've managed to build comes from just placing belts alone but I imagine splitters/mergers wouldn't be too different lol but most are trial and error but eventually you can get it to turn/bend to insane levels once you build a few dozen lol I'm saving them as blueprints so I can still use them once they are patched 😂

[cunning siren]

Or maybe slap down a 250MW oil gen blueprint with a packager and dump some rocket fuel in a box for it 😆

[lament niche]

it's *MW/H

hi @grave burrow

[next sequoia]

How do I find the file where my saves are stored

[dense violet]

#faq

[shy fog]

you wouldn't download a gpu

[grave burrow]

Also there is a fun bug with the belts as you mentioned earlier. Seems to happen most often with curve mode but works in others. If you can place two splitter/mergers on the same belt a short distance from one another, there's a pretty high chance it will cause the belt to create two 180 bends with the second placement of the splitter/mergers. If you delete the opposite belt that isn't doubling back, then the splitter/merger, the 180° belt stays and is functional. Just doubles back on itself lol I have a whole save with close to 5000km of just bugged belts to save for future preservation lol

[next sequoia]

Kk ty

[shy fog]

primarily because downloading a gpu is rather difficult to get working on home printers...

[grave burrow]

Most of what I break in game can be linked to Ben's fault lol

[lament niche]

It hopefully looks like you didn't get deployed to Europe

[shy fog]

anyways... an update on the stupid small factory. I am 500 encased industrial beams away from finishing that part prepwork...

[lament niche]

You're still active, right?

[latent meadow]

am i crazy for loving having the event music going evertime i come back to my hub <3<3<3

[lament niche]

yes

[latent meadow]

🙁

[shy fog]

don't worry, that's not the reason why. You're crazy because you're here by default

[latent meadow]

i can accept being crazy for that reason arty

[lament niche]

just liking the hub music is an extra confirmation

[latent meadow]

lol

[spark sky]

Did you get the mix tape from the Awesome Shop?

[latent meadow]

finaly get to see a phsyical form of ada

to insult you

[spark sky]

BTW, is there another mix tape to be found in the world (for the anniversary, like the Ficsmas tapes)?

[latent meadow]

lol

[spark sky]

Oh yeah. I wonder if she really doesn't like the job.

[latent meadow]

yea but you know you love the abuse

lol same for gladdos in portal

cant help but love her for it make you a better pioneer

[spark sky]

Yeah, but Gladdos is actually malicious, trying to get you killed.

[latent meadow]

that true

i have to admit whoever though up all the quotes for ada should be given a raise

they did such a great job on it

[cunning siren]

Naw Gladdos is a bro, giving cake, hard to blame that

[latent meadow]

only to blow up up with the cake

us up

yea a snow biome woud be super neat to have tbh

[spark sky]

I watched a video that asked who we are (that is, our character in the game). It said we were clones of one of the humans that worked on the project and now all that's left is clones and the AI, and what we're really doing all this for is so the AI can propogate, there are no puppies and kittens (or humans, for that matter) back on Earth.

[latent meadow]

interesting

i always love seeing background to a game

makes you feel more like your part of the game itself

[spark sky]

I don't know how this person came to this conclusion, but his arguments sounded plausable.

[latent meadow]

i think that would be super neat max

[spark sky]

Yeah, it would be nice to get the official story (game premise).

[latent meadow]

true it was cool because even dayz finaly started revealing some backstory to itself the only game i ever seen that has really no back story is rust

witch is kind of sad

[spark sky]

Well, have you ever read the Dahak trilogy by David Webber? The enemies were kind of driven by a similar AI that had duped them into thinking that they had to fight for the AI to survive (and it was all just so the AI could stay in power).

[latent meadow]

i guess that true like sometimes not telling people the ending

it allows for more creativeness form us the player to decied wat the story is

and how we think the story might ahve gone

❤️

[spark sky]

At any rate, ADA may be pushing for us to do all this stuff, but I just do what I want.

[dense violet]

that's certainly an opinion

[latent meadow]

i was playing back when it first released

and almost immdely i was hooked

i saw so much potetal in the game itself and they did not disopoint

i so poud of the dev team all they acocomplished

[cunning siren]

Game runs pretty good on my 🥔 hardware these days 🤔

[latent meadow]

true it had it bugs and issue but over all i always been happy with the game and it progress as well it direction

it funny because a firend of mine got it free

orginaly and we were talking about buying it to support the dev

and not even a day later my firend that i bough a game for a while back bough it for me on steam

and i was kind of glad that the money went to the dev been waiting to get enough to buy it

oof

i think mutiplayer back then was so buggy

[cunning siren]

Lots of stuff was

[latent meadow]

me and a firend tried it we got prety far but it got to a point where some of was unplable made me kind of sad

[cunning siren]

Some stuff still is

[latent meadow]

that true

but i expect bugs now and then

sometimes the bug can be kind of funny

and you know you got a great dev whent hey spin a bug into a game mecahanic

love it

[lament niche]

is there a mod that lets you nudge in small amounts?

[shrewd palm]

and the nuclear plant problems strike again!

[latent meadow]

wat that bill

[shrewd palm]

i have built a nuclear plant that has given me nothing but problems

this time there is something going on with my uranium input so im not making nearly enough rods

[latent meadow]

ahh

not sure i ran into that problem myelf

myself

[shrewd palm]

i think it comes down to the way im balancing the belts but im not 100% sure

all my drone ports have the right throughput

[dense violet]

follow the problem back - see what's starving, follow to a clog

[latent meadow]

yay i got steel going

finaly lol

[shrewd palm]

ok this now makes no sense

i think this is a big mistake because half my drone ports arent receiving/sending anything despite telling me that their throughput is right

[dense violet]

Ignore throughput readings, check outputing and consuming machines

are the machines outputting to the drone clogged?

[shrewd palm]

nope

not getting enough throughput

[dense violet]

... if your drones aren't providing enough throughput, then the machines feeding them have to be clogged, right?

[shrewd palm]

well i mean i only have 2 rows of assemblers going when i should have 6

and the last few machines in each row are idle if thats what you mean by clogged

[dense violet]

check the consoles, are their outputs full and stalling them. that is 'clogged'

[shrewd palm]

they are not full there is not enough uranium

[dense violet]

so the assemblers are starving follow their inputs back.

[wary perch]

Wouldn’t it be cool to put nuclear waste in your coffee cup instead of coffee cuz of the cool glow

[shrewd palm]

that would be cool if i didnt hate nuclear now

[dense violet]

it sounds like you've got some systemic issues with the way you built it.

why only 2 rows of assembers instead of hte 6 you were talking about? testing part of it?

[shrewd palm]

no it should be 6 but theres only enough uranium for 2

i think some of my drones stopped working but i dont know how or why

[dense violet]

so you have multiple structural issues it sounds. First sort out why your uranium drones aren't moving things

[shrewd palm]

well the drone ports dont have power

[dense violet]

that'll be one problem 🙂 take it step by step

[shrewd palm]

this is why you dont demolish random power poles kids!

[dense violet]

or rely on rail power transfer

imo, a really good way to manage any power station, especially nuclear, is to really make it as independent as possible.

move everything you need for your rods to one spot .

[peak wasp]

FicSit Employee that has effected efficiency, we will be watching you with great irritation

[shrewd palm]

i was cleaning up my base to make things more efficient and must have accidentally gotten one of the power poles that was actually important

[dense violet]

was this base for things other than your nuclear station?

[shrewd palm]

it was my main base and its very messy

[dense violet]

So instead of tryign to trouble shoot this, my recommendation is to move all your nuclear production out of there asap

[peak wasp]

So math question

270 item belts need about 9 smelters to process correct?

[shrewd palm]

it was just a drone port connected to the wrong power pole, my nuclear plant is on the other side of the map and for the most part is well built

[dense violet]

depends on the recipe, if the recipe calls for 30pm then 270/30 = 9

[peak wasp]

Just smelters turning iron ore into bars

[dense violet]

don't calculate by recipe or machine. Do numbers

[peak wasp]

Well the machine says it takes 30 ore into 30 bars

[dense violet]

ok, grab a calculator and plop the numbers in 🙂

this is the sort of basic thing you'll need to be very comfy with if you want stable production rates

[spice moon]

i do not know what i was thinking trying to force 600 limestone through a mk3 belt. no wonder my machines were being wierd.

[shrewd palm]

and the other one was not enough fuel

i need to be more careful with drones i think

[shy mulch]

Spent all day today monitoring my rail network and making lots of small adjustments to ensure clean throughput and no jams. Time investment was absolutely worth it. Ready to start putting the final factory together now I am 100% confident all of it's inputs will be reliable

[gusty helm]

gsdx

[shrewd palm]

welp time to see if the waste system can handle 100 fully overclocked reactors or if my beltwork is still hella scuffed

[shy mulch]

Blind faith and crossed fingers works perfectly a non-zero percent of the time

[shrewd palm]

thats the idea!

[cunning siren]

How many coupons are "needed" to buy all the "essential handy stuff" in the store?

I guess I don't use my coupons much 🤔

[shrewd palm]

i wouldnt spend any on the resources thats for sure

do you mean cosmetics?

[shy mulch]

One thing I'd like to do at some point is properly measure out how much fuel my drones are using. I have absolutely no idea if I'm close to capacity and need to expand the fuel soon, or if I've got loads spare 🤷

[cunning siren]

I did this run, cuz why not? 😆

[shy mulch]

Zero are absolutely required. Everything in the shop is optional

[cunning siren]

Yea some stuff is pretty handy though

[shy mulch]

It's all either cosmetic or time saving

What you value as 'worth it' is purely subjective

[shrewd palm]

although the logistics things and billboards/lights are really nice to have

[cunning siren]

IDK some stuff is objectively good

[feral geyser]

Wall sockets would like to disagree

[shy mulch]

They are still cosmetic. If you don't care what things look like you can achieve the exact same result with a power pole

[cunning siren]

The floor holes for lifts are pretty nice, I've been finding all sorts of fun stuff with them

[shy mulch]

Again, cosmetic. You can use lifts and just clip them straight through the floor if you want

[zenith pecan]

Floor holes are my go to when it comes to straight forward input/output to a factory.

[cunning siren]

Makes it much more clear how to connect stuff 4 sure

Can "jam" that accordion thingamabob on the lift ALL the way in there too 😆

[leaden turret]

what if:

cosmetic = no mechanical advantage
aesthetic = some mechanical advantage

railings: aesthetic (because stops you falling off shit)
beams: cosmetic or aesthetic depending on use

[shy mulch]

I'm happy to accept those definitions. What item in the awesome shop offers mechanical advantage

[leaden turret]

material swatches: cosmetic

[shy mulch]

OK, at a push I might accept that argument for railings 😝

[azure lynx]

just got the hoverpack, life changer

[cunning siren]

Oh yea ❤️ teh upgrades

Woh! Liquid biofuel hangs in there for horizontal flight distance even the best fuel. 715.5 vs. 810 🤔

[fierce flicker]

how do i get enough power??????

[azure lynx]

depends for what

[plush dawn]

floor and wall holes are nice because it allows you to end a belt within them and not have to build the full belt at once

[strange fractal]

hi, i just unlocked the coal gen but my coal seams are far away so wth your expertise should i put the generators near my factory or near the coals ?

[azure lynx]

near the water

[strange fractal]

both are facing the sea

[feral geyser]

Always easier to transport solids than liquids

Then you are good, do the power right there

Bring it back to base woth towers

[shrewd palm]

where are you building?

[cunning siren]

To be fair with a "tap tap tap" jetpack macro I can go over 1000m with Liquid Biofuel 🤔

[azure lynx]

(if you have towers unlocked)

[cunning siren]

But thats with slide jump

[feral geyser]

That's true, I keep forgetting towers are a different milestone.

[fierce flicker]

for everything

[azure lynx]

...build more gens?

[plush dawn]

i found a bug where if you open and close inventory while jetpack it sometimes launches you like 10 or 20m upward

[spice moon]

how does one change direction using the hypertube branches? i only seem to go down one route i've made

[cunning siren]

Looks like 821.5 meters is what it's saying with tap tap for slidejump LBF 🤔. Those are rookie numbers 😆

[shrewd palm]

i think the button is E but dont quote me on that

[shrewd palm]

really useful when you're low on fuel tbh

[azure lynx]

press E before the branch, you will see a hologram that shows the direction you'll go down

[shrewd palm]

or if you want a little bit of extra time in the air to swap to a hoverpack

[spice moon]

ty!

[fierce flicker]

bio gens? no cause fuel
coal gens expenisve and also use power

[shrewd palm]

coal gens are very much worth it to set up

[cunning siren]

Oh yea, hoverpack glides a bit

[azure lynx]

if you have coal gens unlocked, start working for them. the input power is miniscule compared to the output

[shrewd palm]

you'll need some biofuel to boot it up but after that you wont need to worry about collecting biomass ever again

[plush dawn]

batteries are good for starting up powerplants

[cunning siren]

The coal is a lie! Biofule gens till Plutonium rods! 😆

[plush dawn]

little early for that at coal stage though

[azure lynx]

120 coal a minute can fuel 8 generators, which with mark 1 belts and miners, as well as water extractors, means you only need to power two miners and three generators (and whatever pumps for water you have)

and you'll get about 1200 MW

[plush dawn]

water extractors was my bottleneck for coal

[shrewd palm]

1200 produced and what should be less than 100 consumed i think

[plush dawn]

not enough water nearby

[azure lynx]

im assuming thats because you're using the Grass Fields lakes for water?

if thats the case, just dont

[shrewd palm]

the grassy fields has a really good spot for coal, and the rocky desert has 2 spots that are basically identical

[azure lynx]

the way i see it, unless you're willing to belt or pipe a great distance, always make the power plant off-site and cable the power back to base

i sent an example of my... overly expanded coal plant over at #screenshots, i went a bit further away from base to make my plant

[spice moon]

my hypertube keeps launching me out of the tubes

[limpid cairn]

guys i can make 50 pressure conversion cubes per minute

do i make 50 nuclear pasta per minute?

[gusty helm]

R ZT TRFTER

[limpid cairn]

I know

[rocky rock]

Liquid biofuel is handy for the jetpack though, works great for aerial combat

[feral geyser]

It is

[hard ivy]

depends for what

[feral geyser]

More thrust and comparable flight time when feathering.

[hard ivy]

LBF is the best for hovering

[limpid cairn]

i enjoy that a particle accelerator takes 5gw of energy when slooped and fully overclocked

[abstract heron]

🐐

[limpid cairn]

WAIT WHY IS MY PARTICLE ACCELERATOR TAKING 20 GW OF ENERGY

IT NUKED MY GRID

NOOOOOOOO

[shy mulch]

I get irrationally frustrated at the scale of some of the early game stuff. Like endgame things I'm quite happy to do because I expect them to be complex. But in my head 50/min crystal oscillators should take minutes to set up, but it doesn't, and I get annoyed at having to put effort into that bit 😛

[shy mulch]

they are variable power draw, so throughout the cycle of producing an item the power requirement changes

[limpid cairn]

it took me half a day to automate 25 crystal oscillators per minute

[shy mulch]

I imagine in 4000 hours I'll be better at it than I am now. I've done pretty much everything there is to do, so from now on it's just a matter of making it look better and getting more efficient myself at actually building the things

[azure lynx]

so i just now found out that apparently, powered train rails count as "powered machines" for the hover pack, meaning as long as there's power through the train line, i can float near it

[shy mulch]

yes quite handy, especially when building a large rail network, you can just hover along and drop blueprinted track sections as you go

[hard ivy]

Cause you slooped and overclocked it?

[limpid cairn]

i didnt expect it to use 20gw

maybe like 5 or soemthing but not 20

[hard ivy]

That multiplies power consumption by 13.5x

[white dawn]

Max overclock requires a little over 3x the power, and sloops quarduple the power. Hence the 13.5x mentioned. :P

[solemn crystal]

Wait so power draw is compound multiplied?

I thought 5ey multiply the base value then add up

[steady glade]

not quite

[coral sundial]

I feel like I put a ton of work into a factory floor that only makes 10 modular frames lol

[solemn crystal]

Everyone is like that

Just make a blueprint for it then spam it

[coral sundial]

How do you use the blueprints

[solemn crystal]

But make sure the blueprint is modular

[solemn crystal]

Blueprint designer, save the blueprint, then open blueprint tab of builder

[coral sundial]

You have to build it on the blueprint machine thing?

[solemn crystal]

Yes

[coral sundial]

Oh I see

[solemn crystal]

Quite a bummer

But it’s for balancing

[echo hemlock]

i cant for the life of me find this Sommersloop by the rocky desert big cave

[atomic notch]

Dude that one is kinda scuffed if its the one im thinkin of

[crisp barn]

can you destroy the small blue flower thingies in the red forest?

[echo hemlock]

not yet, i kinda just swoosh past them

[crisp barn]

nobelisks do nothing to them

[crisp barn]

bruh

[echo hemlock]

its supposed to be at -1451, -1535

according to the online map

[atomic notch]

Theres a small cave on a cliff face around there somewhere

[echo hemlock]

been looking for an hour now . . ., u know the coords maybe?

[atomic notch]

Im at work rn sry

[echo hemlock]

its ok, thx tho

[atomic notch]

If you ss the map i can circle it for you.

[echo hemlock]

pm'd you

[spark sky]

Well, here's my first working vertical load balancer: #screenshots message

The construction has been very tedious, requiring much trial and error.

[thick hinge]

Are these big purple-with-blue mushrooms looking supposed to be breakable? I accidentally destroyed one with a nobelisk and the crash pod on top is just... floating

[spark sky]

The biggest problem with the vertical load balancer at the moment is that, if you need to extend any part of it vertically, you essentially have to scrap it and custom make it from scratch.

[hard ivy]

I mean that's how this usually goes with balancers

[rocky rock]

Yeah, the giant trees in the pink forest are destructible as well (but not a specific tiny mushroom tree for some reason), it's kind of an oversight honestly to have collectibles on destructible objects, there's a lot of slugs on trees and such that get left floating

[limpid cairn]

i assume ficsit is best made out of alumina?

[thick hinge]

Got it. They didn't seem destructible to me, but I've only ever shot explosive rebars at them and not nobelisks. Thanks!

[hard ivy]

Depends what you want, really. Ficsite from aluminium uses the least SAM

[spark sky]

Yes, but it's easier with horizontal balancers. If you need to move the end, you merely remove the last splitter and the belts attached to it, place a new one and replace the belts. With the vertical splitter, you have to rebuild the whole thing from the bottom up and/or top down, in a BP designer, then combine the BPs on site.

The reason is that the whole top or bottom has to be on one vertical lift (a different one for each).

[limpid cairn]

all i wanted to know thx

[atomic notch]

Rn im just usung waste sulfuric acid to leach caterium for ficsite

[spark sky]

Isn't that what you're supposed to do with your waste? Use it to process (or process into) something else?

[rocky rock]

Or sink it

[limpid cairn]

nope

[spark sky]

Yeah, unless it's nuclear waste, can't sink that (it's unsinkable, but it doesn't float).

[limpid cairn]

you usually feed it back into the system

thats always possible with fluid byproducts btw

[spark sky]

At any rate, if you can use it to make something else, that's better than just sinking it.

[atomic notch]

Yeah but then no ficsite

[spark sky]

Unless you really need 10,000 tickets.

[rocky rock]

Theoretically yes, but more and more I'm finding the biggest limiting factor to my builds is managing complexity so many times it's much easier to just sink the excess rather than try to reuse it

The map has way more resources on it than you actually need

[spark sky]

So, what do you do with all your tickets? Place statues all over the place?

[rocky rock]

I don't have that many tickets, I'm just trying to finish the game for real this time before I bounce off it again

Made the mistake last time of attempting nuclear power

Burned out halfway through that project, this time I'll just go with rocket fuel

[spark sky]

Well, right at the moment, I only need tickets for the statues and coated concrete (which I have yet to unlock).

[atomic notch]

Just uranium? Or were u goin all the way with it

[small notch]

ik this isnt mod discord but anyone know a mod for lights

im not trying to spend 10 coupons on billboards and have global illumination on

[spark ruin]

for lights ?
like you mean the OG lights ?

and not the lumen ones

[small notch]

whats og lights and lumen

[spark ruin]

OG are the ones the devs added in U4
lumen is just global illumination

[small notch]

ah right

i dont like having all the cables for the og ones and i dont want global illumination turned on

[woeful ocean]

if i launch phase 5 to finish the game, is there any effects and can i keep playing normally?

[small notch]

i found a mod thats let me use the og ones without cables so ill just do that

[pearl summit]

Hey guys, is there a way I can turn the music off at the HUB?

[placid stirrup]

#announcements

[deep pier]

you sure can my good friend

[molten elbow]

gobi

[tired axle]

Is there a way (maybe a mod) to start and stop all machines from somewhere else? Like a control panel or something like that

[steady glade]

||priority power switches, in the mam, caterium section||

[tired axle]

Ahh nice. Not there yet but good to know

[steady glade]

there is a node west of the grass fields if you started there

[peak wasp]

Should I be going after every single node?

[limpid cairn]

but-but- factory carts...

the containers tell you the throughtput btw

basically

but you can sink the containers to see the throughput

its not worth to calculate it theoretically

[hard ivy]

The platforms will tell you how much has actually been dropped/picked up over the last few trips. Can take like half an hour to an hour to stabilise, especially if you changed something after the train has already started running

Theoretical calculations require knowing the round trip time. The formulas are on the wiki

[shy mulch]

Just don't let the train be a bottleneck. Add more carriages until you see that they are not all full each time. Then you are getting all the materials moved as fast as they are being produced, just look at the machines supplying them to the train station and add up how much is produced to know how much is being delivered

[slate galleon]

Hi any devs online ?

oh man the color coding for concrete pillers

can anyone make brown or even dark brown concrete pillers ???

Since the game was released i cannot make brown concrete

i can make blue green yellow and so on but just not brown

[versed mesa]

Need help please with understanding

[latent meadow]

when your addiction is lifts in this game 🙁

[slate galleon]

Do u know how to make them ?

[shy mulch]

That works too. Adding more carriages doesn't need to be all on the same train

[slate galleon]

everytime i try and color them brown they come out bloody grey eh

[versed mesa]

With fluid Gens are they allow to take multiple fluids at the same time to help with building fluid up faster ?

[slate galleon]

does anyone in here know a working color code for this game that works on the big concrete pillers ????

[shy mulch]

How would that be possible, there is only one input?

[hard ivy]

adding extra trains can be problematic if you configure them wrong. if they're on default settings, and one arrives immediately after the other, the second one will only pick up the items that accumulated since the previous train departed. if it's very little, the 2nd train will barely contribute anything

[versed mesa]

So they can only take one fluid at the same time then

@shy mulch can I explain my issue please ive been working on this mist of the day this build and the fluid gens are now powering up and that reason is no fluid is getting to it

[shy mulch]

You can try

[hard ivy]

same thing applies on the unload side as well. if one train drops off a full load, and the second train arrives immediately afterwards, and it's on default settings, it'll barely drop anything off, because the platform is already mostly full

[shy mulch]

Why would you not over clock miners to 250% seems like a waste of resources not to extract all you can

[solemn relic]

what does building efficency stat do?

[shy mulch]

There is a lot of space there, why not just expand the station?

[versed mesa]

So one refinery is power on its making plastic and ive choose that fluid oil to through the pipes to all gens that ive built and no fluid is powering up the gens

[hard ivy]

it tells you what % of time the machine has spent actually making items vs not doing anything

[solemn relic]

thanks

[versed mesa]

So am trying work out the issues

[shy mulch]

Exactly what are you sending into the fuel generators?

[hard ivy]

depends how you set up your factory. Mine always have multiple machines not at 100%. because I don't bother with underclocking

[versed mesa]

Heavy oil residue

[versed mesa]

This is classed as fluid right as well

[hard ivy]

might wanna check what fluids the generators actually accept as fuel

[shy mulch]

That's not a fuel

[versed mesa]

Are crap

[shy mulch]

You can't just send any liquid to a fuel generator. They burn fuel

[leaden turret]

packaged HOR can be used for vehicles

[shy mulch]

That's like sending iron into a coal generator and wondering why it won't burn it 🥰

[versed mesa]

Well i thought oil was also

[shy mulch]

The fuel generator tells you what fuels it accepts

[versed mesa]

Where can I check this please ?

[hard ivy]

in the generator or on the wiki

[shy mulch]

On the machine itself

[versed mesa]

Let me look

@shy mulch @hard ivy so to clear this oil out of the pipes how do I do it please to reuse for fluid

[hard ivy]

you can flush the pipes

[versed mesa]

Ok yeah I already know this lol

@hard ivy so if I wanted to get rid of the heavy oil what do I need todo pachage it or what ?

[hard ivy]

get rid of in what sense?

like constantly or just from the pipes

[versed mesa]

@hard ivy like where should I put it or send it to

[versed mesa]

Constantly when trying to produce plastic

[hard ivy]

use it for something? fuel, coke, whatever

[atomic notch]

10000 fluid buffers

[peak wasp]

Fr

FR tho

[versed mesa]

But i thought heavy oil can't be used as fuel ?

[peak wasp]

Why not hand craft everything

[hard ivy]

you can turn it into fuel

[peak wasp]

Y'all's are too scared to play the game with only hand crafting

[atomic notch]

More like too lazy

[peak wasp]

Lazy = Scared

[versed mesa]

Ive got disability chill

[peak wasp]

Nah

Disability schmisability

(respectfully)

[atomic notch]

Its way easier to just automate everything

[solar hamlet]

I think Ill grab "daisy chain everything" for this playthrough... so I dont have to do the magic placing with connects which I never could hit quite right 😄

[versed mesa]

What ever that means I dont know

[peak wasp]

You're too scared

[atomic notch]

Nah

[peak wasp]

Yah

[versed mesa]

Why are are some of yous being horrible to me for ive dont nothing wrong it to ask for help

[atomic notch]

Ah

[solar hamlet]

Should I start in dune desert for the convenience or in the forest for the inconvenience 🤔

[peak wasp]

Start in the red bamboo forest thingy

[atomic notch]

Start in a cave

[atomic notch]

Could just do rocky desert for both

[peak wasp]

Start in the meadows tho

Dune desert is the best for late game

[solar hamlet]

Im picking from those two because Ive started on the plains and rocky desert before

[peak wasp]

All the pure nodes and large open space

My beloved

[atomic notch]

You can bring resources anywhere so i just build wherever i want

[versed mesa]

Am right next to the ocean but also close to the desert

[solar hamlet]

That describes the top half of the map 😄

[versed mesa]

I started in the grass lands

[solar hamlet]

How annoying is biomass in the dune desert? because if very I will definitely just go into forrest 😄

[peak wasp]

It's not annoying at all

The oasis is like 1 minute away

[versed mesa]

Its not all easy

What ive seen so far you you can get wood and 🍃 all over

Because still you may need to use biomass machines to help get everything up and running

Thats what ive done

Ok ive got to go for now i need to solve my problems

[atomic notch]

Dune desert has one of the mycelia forests. Tons of biomass

[versed mesa]

See

[cunning siren]

You can start in the NE water area of Dune and have massive amounts of Biomass and move to the SW nodes later 🤷

[solar hamlet]

nvm I will probably not start today... started to look at mods. 😄

[atomic notch]

I leave the dune desert open so i can rip the explorer around on the dunes

[solar hamlet]

So far Im grabbing the classics infinte zoop and nudge... and the magical daisy chain one so I dont have to try to remember how you are supposed to do the connections with beams 😄

Luckily this game is one of those where Im mostly not interested in content mods 😄

[peak wasp]

Add the graphics mod

Idfk the name of it but search up visuals/graphics/wtv other words

[atomic notch]

Add satisfactory+

[crystal siren]

"not interested in content mods"
You suggest satisfactory plus

[solar hamlet]

yeah I was like... isnt that one just new game 😄

[solar hamlet]

What does it do and will it just burn down my poor pc?

[peak wasp]

It overhauls the graphics

And it may or may not have made my 8 year old pc smoke

(I'm srs there)

But dayum it was Beautiful

[solar hamlet]

Not sure I should try with my 6yo 😄

[solemn crystal]

im sorry but my pc already starts hovering off the floor
do you wish for it to go to norway??

[peak wasp]

NORWAY VRO

[solar hamlet]

eh, might as well try. at worst Ill just remove it 😄

[carmine aspen]

"soon itll start mimicing a ps4"

[solemn crystal]

reminds me of that one time i installed linux on my ps3

[peak wasp]

My ps4 literally blew up

[solar hamlet]

50fps in main menu...maybe I shouldnt use it 😄

[peak wasp]

I used it for many days straight up and it shut down, smoke came out, and it smelt dab

[peak wasp]

LMAO

[steady glade]

🫴

[craggy harbor]

Okay, so this is a bit of an odd question and please feel free to explain in detail why this would probably be difficult but how bad would it be for the devs to include mods on console like the way baldurs gate 3 does?
(I really want to try to eventually make the game harder on myself with more screws but my pc won't be able to handle it)

[carmine aspen]

Unsatisfactory: Oops, all screws!

[solar hamlet]

Any reason not to skip onboarding? I cant quite remember if there is any. 😄

[rocky rock]

achievements

once you have those there's really no reason to do it again unless you really like the ADA snark

[solar hamlet]

I have achievments up to phase 3

so no need then. got it... but maybe I should I have not played in a year 😄

[cunning siren]

You'll be fiiiiine

If you die can I get your stuff? 😜

[limpid cairn]

guys do I play satisfactory all night or do I try to sleep for school tomorrow

[rocky rock]

found another "fun" bug in Satisfactory, if you have an existing dismantle crate in the world all future inventory overflow will go to it even if it's halfway across the map

[hard ivy]

the limit was supposed to 100m. apparently didn't work as it was supposed to

[solemn crystal]

guys does anyone else have the masculine urge to build a giant conveyor belt tornado then place a nuclear reactor at the top and send reactor rods all the way through the tornado and nuclear waste all the way down. no? just me?

[peak wasp]

Sleep

[peak wasp]

Yes

[limpid cairn]

But.but ficsit needs me…

[solemn crystal]

school is only temporary, the factory grows forever

[peak wasp]

You can't be truly efficient if you're not well rested

[limpid cairn]

im lowkey already 2 years behind so fuck school 🔥🔥🔥

[peak wasp]

More prone to mistakes

[solemn crystal]

indeed it does boy, now go do 3 sets of making a 100% efficent modular frame factory for your punisshment of thinking of the outside worlds

[peak wasp]

SLEEP AND BE EFFICIENT DAMMIT

[limpid cairn]

💀

[solemn crystal]

sending emojis aint gonna get those frames going, get to work 🔥

[sweet tusk]

If I'm extracting a liquid on top of a hill, drop it down about 40m in pipes, move it along flat ground for a few hundred meters, and then raise it up about 15m later on, will I need pumps for that? Or will the original 40m of height that I started with be enough to carry it up this 15m?

[solemn crystal]

im not sure how pipes wok but just put a punp just incase

[limpid cairn]

Im already making fused modular frames

[hard ivy]

you shouldn't need a pump in that case

[limpid cairn]

Im about to collect all the bauxite on the world to make alumina

[solemn crystal]

"i asked you to finish the match in 3 minutes and you did it in 2, no reward for that"

[limpid cairn]

[sweet tusk]

The issue is that it isn't just one pump, it would be more like 20, so saving that power would be nice if I don't have to use it.

[solemn crystal]

the 1800s mindset is preaching to me

[solemn crystal]

why would you need 20

[sweet tusk]

20 pipelines 😁

[solemn crystal]

dosent a pump mk2 push like 50m

[solemn crystal]

oh...
uhhh dosent it only take like 2 mw its only 200 mw

400mw*

just try it and if it dosent work then add the pumps

[sweet tusk]

I think it's only 4mw each. But still. Saving on any power is always a good thing to do

[solemn crystal]

or a more efficent way is using packagers

you can package at the bottom then unpackage at the top

[sweet tusk]

Sorry but I follow the teachings of Evil A.D.A. "Aesthetics first" and I love the sight of lots of pipes rather than lots of belts.

Evil F.I.C.S.I.T. does waste

[solemn crystal]

ok but like

[paper yarrow]

are factories infinitely expandable

[solemn crystal]

just organize the conveyors

or JUST DO TRIAL AND ERROR AND SEE WHAT WORKS BUDDY-

[rocky rock]

no, the map is a finite size and eventually you'll run into entity limits

[solemn crystal]

Youll run into computer deepfrying fer beforehand

[paper yarrow]

okay so how big would that get, beyond whats possible to build alone?

[solemn crystal]

Basically the height limit times the void limit

[rocky rock]

people have built factories that 100% utilize all the resources on the map

[paper yarrow]

damn

[solemn crystal]

Factories dont need to use resources

They can just exist and it would be considered a factory

[rocky rock]

or an industrial art installation

[solemn crystal]

If you really want an infinite factory just play shapez 2, the maps basically infinite

[paper yarrow]

or minecraft create mod

[rocky rock]

why is there a sulfur rock under a bombable rock in the rocky desert

not even a node, just a rock that gives you a handful of sulfur when you need sulfur to make the explosives to destroy the other rock in the first place

[hard ivy]

mine the rock

[mystic island]

Ngl, guys. I'm tempted to just start a new save because my factory is just all over the place and I'm lazy to fix that

Have y'all done that or just endured until the end?

[vale grotto]

walk over to a new biome and start a new factory there!

you'll still have the old one making components for you to use, and you'll get a fresh start

[atomic notch]

The first factory is always the worst

[wicked nacelle]

The second factory is always the second worst

[solemn crystal]

if the factory aint organized, its not a factory, its just a crafting bench with extra steps

[atomic notch]

So on and so forth

Its organized in a way only i can understand it.

[rocky rock]

I'll just build a giant monolith of concrete foundations that looks clean from the outside but inside it's all clipped spaghetti

[solemn crystal]

thats jsut the average singleplayer factory

[atomic notch]

Even on multiplayer. Im a menace dude

[solemn crystal]

this is when your teammates are explorers

i always do this with my brother and dad(yes my dad plays satisfactory), since they dont really know how to reliably make a efficent factory, i deal with allat stuff and they do MAM/get slugs

i usually just blow up my brother because hes lazy asf and dosent do anything and we just teabag his dead body when we finish workin

[unkempt blade]

that sounds like a lovely monument to the greatness of your save

[solemn crystal]

Thats like judging a book by its cover

[unkempt blade]

I use a lot of signs in my builds so my MP friends can figure it out easier 😆

[solemn crystal]

[solemn crystal]

I didnt unlock signs till like really late game so im not gonna bother with labelling all my machines

[unkempt blade]

yeah I mostly label rows/sections and the total in/out for a build

[past nest]

Looking at making a proper nuclear powerplant now that I'm approaching endgame (finished t4 yesterday), I want it to be as crazy efficient as possible, like uranium into plutonium into fisconium, any tips lol? I want it to make a shit ton of energy so I never have to worry about it again XD

[solemn crystal]

I mostly label shortcuts to enter my factory floors, if you’re too lazy to use the elevator, you go in through those

[tall lantern]

most efficient would be skip the ficsonium and make more uranium lol

[atomic notch]

I dont….

[solemn crystal]

Instead of making ficsonium, make more uranium bombs

[atomic notch]

I should but

Eh

[past nest]

I've heard fisconium is a realy difficult but I don't wana sink plutonium rods so can I just make a crap ton of storage in the ass end of nowhere and pray I never have to touch it again?

[hard ivy]

ficsonium is not efficient at all lol

[solemn crystal]

Just use the LetsGameItOut special

[tall lantern]

sure, it's surprisingly easy to build enough storage to last for longer than you need

[past nest]

Fair enough lol, how come? Does it just use more energy making it them it produces?

[solemn crystal]

the lizard doggo incident

[tall lantern]

I built I think 7000 hours worth of storage for my plutonium waste, that'll cover me

[unkempt blade]

it's efficient at being awesome it's just not awesome at being resource efficient

[past nest]

How much was that? And how much plutonium waste where you producing per min?

[tall lantern]

well the former depends on the latter

[unkempt blade]

but you can make it significantly more efficient if you use factory carts to transport all your ficsonium materials

[tall lantern]

it's easy enough to math out

[past nest]

Also I have no kind of radiation protection I should probably make some of that

[hard ivy]

it's extremely expensive, and the net power you get is around 0. depends what recipes and clock speed you use, you could be either net positive or net negative

[unkempt blade]

But my max power went up! I'm clearly winning harder than I was

[past nest]

Fair enough, ima just make loads of storage and slap a belt output like a mile long just in case I need to take crap out at some point

How radioactive is the waste? And does it stack?

[solemn crystal]

You can or you could….
Strap the waste to a lizard doggo, then throw them into the void with launchpads, get more lizard doggos, and throw them off the map, then feel empty inside after realizing you’ve killed the only companion you have had on this hostile planet, cry in a corner, then, and only then, could you make a storage container that streches to Project Assembly

[unkempt blade]

clearly you aren't doing the "nuclear radiation radius covers my entire world" speedrun

[solemn crystal]

I would make the sob story longer but then its just chat flood

[solemn crystal]

Ill stick to the tornado in the eye of my factory

[hard ivy]

pretty radioactive, so you want it at least a kilometer away from any place you frequent. it stacks to 500, so an ISC holds 24000

[solemn crystal]

(this does mean my factory is a storm, because it has an eye)

[unkempt blade]

You could store your waste inside of the tornado. I hear that works to stop hurricanes before they make landfall

[solemn crystal]

its full already and sitting in the middle does a special interaction of deleting every single radiation filter in my inventory

Speaking of radiation

Its so much easier to navigate

Because back then standing near it does 1 block of damage no Matter what

[unkempt blade]

that's just one of the challenging aspects of the speed run

[solemn crystal]

Well i resign from ut

id rather use lizard doggo genocide

[unkempt blade]

fair enough, want to try the 0-10000 factory cart challenge instead?

[solemn crystal]

I already filled up like 200 industrial containers with factory cart

Wait so 200 x 40 =8,000 so i sitll need 2k…

better get to work then

[unkempt blade]

you're so close!

[mystic island]

Friggin' Satiscracktory

[unkempt blade]

what's the best excel function for satisfactory planning?

[mystic island]

This shit reels me in harder than anything else

[solemn crystal]

make 100% efficent heavy modular frame ❌
make 10,000 factory carts✅

[solemn crystal]

+SUM

[unkempt blade]

total classic

[solemn crystal]

or

[unkempt blade]

vlookup can take a hike

[solemn crystal]

dont use excel sheets, dissolve into madness while trying to store everything inside your head, and then just YOLO everything

[unkempt blade]

personally I use a beautiful mind wall

[solemn crystal]

i personally write down the production of my machine, how much shards it has, the overclock percent, and if it uses sloops

i also use different sheets for each material, and color coding to tunnel between materials

now yes i could go get a job with these skills, but FICSIT does not waste, and a 9 to 5 is definitely a waste

[unkempt blade]

find one that's fully remote and only wants to distract you from real important work like satisfactory for a couple hours a day

[past nest]

Works great dawg forward planning is for nerds

[solemn crystal]

So like homeschool teacher or something

We’re disinclined to acquiesce to your request

fuck why does my autocorrect do that

im trying to say We’re disinclined to acquiesce to your request.

…..

😭

[unkempt blade]

computers are only here to sabotage us

[solemn crystal]

True, their output rate is always irrational

[unkempt blade]

especially ones that can't even play doom right

[solemn crystal]

like tf u mean i have an output of 5.333333333

[hard ivy]

that's still rational

[prime jasper]

Why does some priority power switch appear in grey when I look at my power grid?

[solemn crystal]

I mean the looping rational number

[solemn crystal]

Did you color the switch?

[prime jasper]

You can do that?

[solemn crystal]

As in paint the physical switch

[prime jasper]

You can ALSO do that? 🤯

[barren dove]

You need the 'concave control panel' blueprint that 'couq' uploaded on satis. Calculater site.

[plain gate]

all numbers in satisfactory are rational

[hard ivy]

imagine a smelter making 10π ingots/min

[gritty zealot]

my fellow factorians

how are the factories

are they factorising?

[plain gate]

ingot spheres

[fickle walrus]

i found oil American oil

[barren dove]

Great. Just building somewhere where one side of my factory is seen as a different sector by drones then the other half. So now i have one part flying up and the other half flying straight through the factory machines

Fml

[gritty zealot]

that is unacceptable

[fickle walrus]

guys i found oil should i be worried

[barren dove]

Yeah gonna call in sick tomorrow amd fix it all day

Jk was already free tomorrow xD

[barren dove]

Depends, are you on an american server? XD

[hard ivy]

ah, yeah, probably

[gritty zealot]

the factory must grow

[plain gate]

the iraqis are coming for you

[solemn crystal]

Wait you can dowload blueprints

[fickle walrus]

imma kill those terrorists

[solemn crystal]

It just looks weird sometimes because if i set it to certain output it now needs 15.33333333333337 iron per minute, meaning its never truly 100% efficient

[barren dove]

Yes, download them (both files) and paste them in the right satisfactory map.

[fickle walrus]

NO SUIT BRO

[solemn crystal]

no suit?

aw man my suit :(

[fickle walrus]

NO SUIT BRO!"
"OH F U BRO!"
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

[solemn crystal]

[barren dove]

Tagged you in screenshots to check it out. No need to write everything down anymore 😆

[solemn crystal]

Holy shit thats awesome

ill still use excel because well, im a spreadsheet

thats like the sliding door company using a handle door

[barren dove]

Hehe. Im oldskool, writing it on a torn piece of paper

[noble ice]

isnt there a little trick/hack to make conveyor lifts extend past their "max" ?

Do I place a belt at where I want the connection to happen? or maybe a floor hole?

[solemn crystal]

im not a bug abuser guy(aside from particle accelerator crouch, haha speed go brr) so idk about that

[plain gate]

fp64 in the game is accurate to 10+ sigfigs give or take itll take more than a thousands for even a single item to go missing

[solemn crystal]

I dont care. Im pissed off either way, thats a fraction a millisecond of production stopping.

shit my autocorrect

😔

as i was saying, im gonna head to slep

[plain gate]

goodnight xlsx

😛

[solemn crystal]

.xlsx*

[hard ivy]

clock speed doesn't look like it's saved with full fp64 accuracy. fp32 at best (if you type in an equation), 4 decimal places at worst, if it gets saved with the same accuracy if it's displayed

[unkempt blade]

literally unplayable

[solemn crystal]

That sounds like a bunch of bullshit that i cant understand so uhhh
Sltoo yrbo ocr😃

[plain gate]

do the machines use the displayed clock% or the actual value clock%

[solemn crystal]

That gives me an idea
The modding community needs to add a mod that just math.floor s anything thag keeps repeating. Like 5.33333333

or they have that mod already

[plain gate]

some machines are just impossible then

theres some i know of that give you a repeating # unless its 100 or 200% clock speed and then you havge shitty input numbers

[solemn crystal]

This is more proof that the number 3 should burn in hell

“Oh you’re trying to divide 10 by 3? Heres 3.33333333333333333”

[plain gate]

good thing fractions exist

[unkempt blade]

numbers are overrated anyway we should focus more energy on pictograms

[solemn crystal]

Not good thing that they dont exist in satisfactory

[atomic notch]

Still only goes to the 4th decimal

Cant have infinite numbers on a digital computer lol

[solemn crystal]

Not talking about only satisfactory, in almost every argument with the number 3, it just goes .33333+
It also owns pi so it adds to its shittiness

[atomic notch]

#off-topic-general

Lol jk

[solemn crystal]

Its still related to satisfactory

[limpid cairn]

Docs.ficsit.app exists

[solemn crystal]

Good to know

[hard ivy]

no clue. someone would have to check the code. I'm almost certain they're saved with more accuracy than that than they're displayed, but I don't know which value is actually used for calculations

[solemn crystal]

Ok i said i go slep so baii

[plain gate]

we can still store values as fractions and do abstracted math ops then convert to fp when actually needed

[versed mesa]

Is there by any. Hance a picture diagram to fir fuel gens and pushing all fuel through the pipes and same for to help to see where am going wrong

Pretty please

[plain gate]

what

[atomic notch]

No idea

[unkempt blade]

I'm going to go with "loop the pipe"

[versed mesa]

Am just going to go bed am getting some rest and will work on it more then maybe ill figure it out more

[solemn crystal]

Wait guys how do i slep again i forgot

[atomic notch]

Idk

[solemn crystal]

Ive been playing too long

[atomic notch]

I usually just smoke a bunch then pass out

[solemn crystal]

me when muslim

[unkempt blade]

you automate a bunch of factory carts in a big loop and you count them as they go past each time

[solemn crystal]

tjat seems familiau

[atomic notch]

Muslim?

[solemn crystal]

one second lemme create a neural network to automate the most optimal way to get me to slep depending on what i look like, how i feel, how many factory carts i built in 1 session, and how much radiation is emitting from the banana next to me

[versed mesa]

Ok so to start off with i am wanting 2 refinerys to produce 2 things one is plastic the other is resin and that seams to be in order fine

The fuel is extremely slow going through the pipes

[atomic notch]

Prolly u only got 2 refineries

Its gonna be slow.

How much fuel you makin per minute?

[carmine aspen]

"

[versed mesa]

But i am just wondering the orange fuel when some produced it ain't even enough to get it through the pipes is it and to help power then gens also ?

[versed mesa]

None yet lol

[atomic notch]

U just gotta let it run till it fills up the pipes

If ur barely makin any fuel its gonna take forever

[versed mesa]

How long could that take ?

[unkempt blade]

depends how big the pipe is and how much you're making

[versed mesa]

God damn

[floral sinew]

is uranium only used for nuclear fuel rods or do i need to leave a node for tier 9 things

[atomic notch]

Check the codex

[versed mesa]

How can i make it so I produce enought abd produce plastic to then turn it to canisters

[atomic notch]

Math ig

U just gotta build it man

[floral sinew]

how can i when i dont have tier 9 things..

[versed mesa]

And then have the go through the pachager to create packaged fuel

[solemn crystal]

Guys despite my efforts i still csnt slep

[versed mesa]

And then also heavy oil is going through difference pachager machine along with more canisters going to it also

[atomic notch]

Press o to open the codex

[versed mesa]

Like I need canisters to create the whole packaging

[solemn crystal]

Guys who the hell uses in the big 25💔

[atomic notch]

I think

[floral sinew]

you cant see tier 9 stuff if i dont have it unlocked

[plain gate]

no its just fuel

[floral sinew]

thank you

[hard ivy]

check the wiki?

[reef basin]

Why do you need so many canisters?

[versed mesa]

When i was at school I used to love doing maths but its been so long doing maths abd my head is still unwell

[plain gate]

start with some integration bee practice 😛

[atomic notch]

Well they make cheat tools if you dont like doing math

[versed mesa]

Alot of canisters is needed to pachage the orange fuel

[reef basin]

Why do you want to package a lot of it?

[versed mesa]

Well i dont but I could do with some you need it for research ect

And is used to fuel vehicles

Id look to mass produce biomass

[solemn crystal]

Or you could

We gotta revive checkpins

[versed mesa]

Screw this am going to setup coal deposit mine and build a coal generator or 2

[mystic island]

I have accepted that I'll make ugly, probably spaghetti factories because things just get obsolete fast.

Only once I finish the space elevator missions, will I come back and make my factories pretty

[tacit trellis]

Bro first time and I hate it if I spaghetti too much man

[versed mesa]

That will help me with electric for now while I figure things out more

[tacit trellis]

Tho I discovered how to manifold by myself and damn its alot easier to keep things neat

[atomic notch]

Use curve mode for cooler spaghet

[tacit trellis]

nah bro straight mode for Al dente spaget

[atomic notch]

Nah all my belts are gay

[tacit trellis]

Bros only got male to male belts

[plain gate]

well where do the items come from then

push all the items away on the belt 😔

[prime jasper]

My power grid just had a complete meltdown and it is so hard putting it back into shape. I shouldn't have played lightly with that particle accelerator.

[slender quest]

Underclock it all the way you need.

[versed mesa]

Server is restarting

[atomic notch]

😎

Ok

[versed mesa]

How long will the server be down for hopefully not that long

[glad quest]

wut

[atomic notch]

Straight mode?

[hushed inlet]

For new players DON’T GO TO THE PLACE WITH RED GRASS AND RED TREES the creatures can get a little quirky at day and night

[hard ivy]

the loot is great tho

[fiery garden]

there are no pandas in the bamboo forest, only death

[hushed inlet]

Yeah but it’s a death sentence without a jet pack

I found a crashed stuff so I checked it out but there were poisonous giant spiders who made some toxic gas I found some power slugs tho
But just blu ones and 1 of the spiders lunged at me from behind and killed me

Also I also found a Mercer sphere so kinda worth it

[placid stirrup]

Nah you just gotta get better at parkour

Or have a vehicle, honestly

[sour vessel]

Does anyone have some railway blueprints that I can yoink?

[atomic notch]

I just made one that fits 9 rails in a mk3

[hushed inlet]

Just play the game to get some

[sour vessel]

I just have no idea how to build them well 😅

[atomic notch]

Only one way to get better

[slate lava]

is there an objectivly better one between making many singular power "nodes" or just making one giant one where everything is connected to

or is it just the ammount of micro managment

[placid stirrup]

My go to supports are incredibly simple, I'd recommend making your own at first

[hard ivy]

I don't see any practical reason not to have one giant grid

[placid stirrup]

There's no downside to having one world power grid. Agreed with Kyo

[slate lava]

well

maybe someday then

[atomic notch]

If you want to do multiple do it

Theres no rule sayin u cant

[slate lava]

na i just started out having 1 there and 1 heer whereever power was needet

but it startet to get kinda annoing with balancing where i can add how much

but iam at like 1ß-15 coal powerplants now

iam not redoing the grit with that

maybe when i unlock next power plant

ye 13 seems about right

[placid stirrup]

You don't have to redo anything, simply bring power lines from one to the next

[slate lava]

they are not close to each other

[placid stirrup]

Distance is relative

[slate lava]

oh no pics here

it seems

[hard ivy]

with power towers, everyting is close

[placid stirrup]

#screenshots or #1038092680493801533 for lengthier discussions

[hard ivy]

you can't have a discussion in #screenshots

[slate lava]

na ll gucci wouldve showed the "this direction" kinda screenshot of where my plants are

[placid stirrup]

I have power going all the way East to West

[sour vessel]

I'm just not sure how to start 😅

it's quite daunting

[slate lava]

but i already know i will get annoind by the whole stuff and will rip all of it off and try to rebuild in one go

[placid stirrup]

Two foundations, two inverted ramps or QPs. Extend top by one and lay a rail down. Done.

[atomic notch]

Yeah dude thats very hard and complicated

[placid stirrup]

Who's this in response to?

[sour vessel]

no need to be an ass

[atomic notch]

Im sorry i been on this server too much today

[slate lava]

just found a 2 year old entry how silicia being the best single comp item for the sink early one

still true?

[hard ivy]

probably

uranium ore is pretty high up there too

[slate lava]

ye thats a bit too far away

wait what am i imissing quartz crystal is way higher up

and the recipe seems to be just chuck into a contructor

[hard ivy]

quartz crystals are 3:5, while silica is 5:3

silica is a little better

[slate lava]

oh so it comes down to production rate?

[hard ivy]

33.(3) sink points per quartz, while crystals are 30
assuming default recipes for both

[slate lava]

i was just looking at points per item

wiki says its 50 per crystal

and 20 per silicia

[hard ivy]

yeah, but crystals take 2.(7) times more raw quartz each

[slate lava]

ah ok

now i just need to find quartz

[hard ivy]

so if you max out a node, silica will give 11% more points

you will need more constructors for the silica than quartz though

[slate lava]

well of i go building powerplant 14 and 15 somewhere in the middle of nothing

lesgo

[fickle walrus]

Clara: You... you are The Doctor

The Doctor: Yep, and I always will be. But times change, and so must I.

[vale grotto]

#screenshots message
@cursive totem how much oil are you using for this? It looks really nice :3

[slate lava]

are there any ingame hints at cave entrances?
or just run around and hope /look up a map

[wicked nacelle]

not really. most are easy enough to find but some give me trouble still

you can triangulate the position of the thing you want with the scanner but sometimes the entrance is far away

[slate lava]

and if iam directionally challnged?

[wicked nacelle]

cave layers in SCIM works great 🙂 but even sometimes there there are overlapping caves that don't intersect

[hard ivy]

there is an in-game map. and you can stamp stuff you find

[slate lava]

iam standing right wehre the quarz is supposed to be, its 130 beneath me

stamps wont help there

[wicked nacelle]

oh, is it a few quartz deposits? in the north west of the map?

the entrance is way to the west and down a ton

[slate lava]

very north west the 2 pure next to each other

[hard ivy]

They'll help you find the entrance again after you find it once

[slate lava]

ye the seconed part is the problem curretnly

if i find the entrance iam building enough stuff to see it from space

[rocky rock]

There's also an entrance to that cave near the coal nodes to the southeast of the beach entrance

Also a few side passages that connect out to the coast to the north

Lots of goodies and spiders

[shy mulch]

there are 3 entrances to that cave and they are nowhere near where the quartz is, it's a huge cave. if you're really stuck you can look them up on SCIM

[stray herald]

@slate lava Is it the cave in the rocky desert?

[slate lava]

got the cave

are some entrances hidden behind the abilty to do boom boom?

[stray herald]

The western entrance is hidden behind a rocky wall

Needs nobelisk

[slate lava]

well fuck, not a dead end then

[stray herald]

The northern one is open IIRC

But it has water so it's tedious since it slows your move speed

[slate lava]

ya was just hoping to use the western immidiatly because the coal is there

[stray herald]

The eastern entrance is also by 4 coal nodes

It is hidden behind one of the nodes towards the hill/ mountain

There is bacon agaric at the entrance

[slate lava]

if you mean the ones where the green start

[stray herald]

And it is open

[slate lava]

they are already used up

[stray herald]

Ah

[slate lava]

ah well whats a few km more belts

[stray herald]

You can buy some nobelisk from the awesome shop, just gotta unlock the detonator

[slate lava]

youll never guess why iam searching those nodes in the first place

[vale grotto]

Why not try out tractors?

You've got the fuel on site anyway

[slate lava]

how big are they ? dont know if they can go easily trough the cave

[vale grotto]

I fit two trains side by side through that cave you could fit like 6 tractors if you really really tried

Tractors are less than a foundation wide

[slate lava]

ofcourse i forgot building stuff for foundations

[peak wasp]

can I put compacted coal into a tractor?

[slate lava]

it does say anykind

do the ziplines care for gravity?

no they dont

oh boi

[wary perch]

I wish there was an open vending machine for me to get different liquids into my coffee cup

[slate lava]

pause

[wary perch]

I like tea

[slate lava]

bad bot

whats the rule here about pinging mods?

that message needs to go before somone takes it serious

[zenith pecan]

Looks like it got the ☢️

[slate lava]

also funny how that shit is still around

had those in my dms back on skype lol

[zenith pecan]

Trouble with such scams is they only need a tiny amount of people to walk into them to turn a profit.

[dense violet]

wiki also tells you all the fuels that can be used for different things

[slate lava]

soooooooo
ziplines do care about gravity

just not in the way i thought about

[zenith pecan]

I never really liked the zipline personally, it feels kind of out of place, in the workplace.

[dense violet]

very useful for exploration

[slate lava]

it just made me taste the dirt

in a very litteral way

even my bones got abite

[dense violet]

was teh power line going like straight down into the dirt? xD

[slate lava]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-suspicious-puppet-gif-2729624127692369191

i would never

[dense violet]

sure. ofc

cause, anyone would assume that that would be like a rail that would direct you face first in the dirt right?

[slate lava]

iama go sleep of the taste

and retrn on a few hours

bb

[upper gale]

Whoa really, it's probably my most used equipment

Well probably jetpack is most used for me

[zenith pecan]

I tend to spend most of my time lazily floating around building with my hover pack, and even walking power cables everywhere so I can just space marine unwanted fauna.

[upper gale]

What kind of nobelisks do you guys like

I've only used the basic one but gonna try others

[zenith pecan]

Cluster personally, though I had a period of going nuclear #screenshots message , there are also the snowballs that I have in limitless quantities due to overbuilding at ficsmas.

[limber atlas]

is it normal to lose track of time when playing and playing this way more than you meant to

[zenith pecan]

Quite normal, projects will escape you, biomes will be swallowed and before you know it, it's 0500

[limber atlas]

ive never had it happen this much on any other game

i meant to try the game out for half an hour and suddenly i was 3 hours deep

[tacit trellis]

Fr lmao

[tacit trellis]

💀 I'm early and I just slide jump everywhere

[upper gale]

Grab the parachute when you can

[tacit trellis]

Nah bro I hate my legs

[upper gale]

Haha

[tacit trellis]

Bro I found out you can like super jump with a jump pad by slide jumping into it at the right angle and it goes nutty

[peak wasp]

oh my fucking god.

....beeep

[upper gale]

Oh damn. I should give jump pad another shot sometime

[tacit trellis]

It's like kinda inconsistent but when you do it you just go flying

[shy fog]

it's an old accelerator option

like the highest tier convyer belt into jump pad

[tacit trellis]

Huh

Neat

[peak wasp]

I found out why my power grid wasn't working right

I didn't hook up a damn pump

[shy fog]

that's an oops

[peak wasp]

so many power issues....god beeping dammit

[shy fog]

at least you know

[tacit trellis]

Bruh i need to actually set my power grid up properly