satisfactory

[unkempt blade]

perfectly fine, not in violation of intergalactic humanitarian law

[shy fog]

silly bot... but ok

[peak wasp]

So is it wrong to setup power in isolated places

[feral geyser]

Weaponized candy corn itself is a war crime.

[next sequoia]

Does cateriuum have any other products besides quickwire and copper wire

I'm missing 2 recipies

[feral geyser]

No, but if it's needs maintenance, probably make it closer.

[atomic notch]

You can set up power wherever you wan

[feral geyser]

Fused wire and fused quickwire

[peak wasp]

Also is it wrong to put a base in the middle of nowhere and trucking everything in

[next sequoia]

Ye got those

No

[feral geyser]

Uhhhh

[next sequoia]

Trains better

[atomic notch]

You can do whatever you want

[next sequoia]

But no

[feral geyser]

GOLDEN Factory Cart uses cat ingot

[peak wasp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1417017981401038948/image.png?ex=68c99d15&is=68c84b95&hm=9e029231879dca562350766fa960f6935c2b08ae130b1acc6d95e5b696e0fb52&

[atomic notch]

I give you permission lol

[peak wasp]

See where my guy is...that's where I'm setting up a base

[next sequoia]

What step for space elevator r u on

[unkempt blade]

it's a sandbox game, you can play however is fun for you

[peak wasp]

just got coal power

[next sequoia]

Yea that'll work then

Be careful about falling into the good tho lol

[peak wasp]

The good?

[atomic notch]

Stay bad

[next sequoia]

Void*

[atomic notch]

Oh

[peak wasp]

I mean isn't the void a good place to build did you see how much void space I had too

[next sequoia]

Yea but u can also just move up and be on land

Either work obv
Or desert or ocean

[peak wasp]

I figured void highways along the side of the map could be useful

[peak wasp]

Where is that area even?

[atomic notch]

Go for it dude

Void base goes hard

[next sequoia]

Spawn and build up lol

[peak wasp]

Like where on the map am I?

[next sequoia]

Very Bottom

[feral geyser]

Bottom right corner

[peak wasp]

Yes but is there a name for it

[next sequoia]

Yea soemwhere

[feral geyser]

Blue Crater Lake

[peak wasp]

Ah cool 🙂

There was a big scary spitter around there

[feral geyser]

There are several, and a bunch of hard drives

[peak wasp]

But I barely won a fight with my beating stick

[next sequoia]

If u go more east still next to the lake it gets a lot deadlier

[feral geyser]

You need a rifle, bro

[peak wasp]

I mean I ran it over with a tractor too

[next sequoia]

So stick to the green plains u spawned in, the forest, and only some of the blue lake so u don't die lol

[peak wasp]

Tractor is a weapon yeah?

[next sequoia]

If you really desire for it to be

[peak wasp]

What's over by the coal... I want the coal

[feral geyser]

I was gonna make a joke about this, but I won't

[rigid mist]

hate refineries

[next sequoia]

So the coal is like halfway up the mountian. At the bottom there a couple of boss dudes. At the waterfall (to the right of the lake) is more. On the island is more. On the other side of the waterfall is more

[peak wasp]

Also I'm curious does condensed coal do anything

[next sequoia]

So coal is fine but don't go to much further past that till u get the rebar gun

[rigid mist]

turbofuel

[peak wasp]

Like will it be a upgrade to my coal power plants

[rigid mist]

& smelting but that's pretty much it

[peak wasp]

So I can't put it in my coal plants

[rigid mist]

no

[peak wasp]

What's over at the sulfur lake

[feral geyser]

Yes you can

[feral geyser]

Why would you say that

You can put Compacted Coal into coal gens, yes.

[rigid mist]

really

never knew that damn

[feral geyser]

You can also use it to make turbofuel, which is better than normal fuel for energy content, and you can use it to make a better Black Powder recipe.

[peak wasp]

Is it a bad use for sulfur?

[feral geyser]

No

[rigid mist]

but at that point it's pretty much just easier to do turbofuel

[next sequoia]

Bro is not at turbofuel level yet

[peak wasp]

It's not like I am in a area where I'm short of it

[next sequoia]

Yea not bad idea to use that sulfur for it theres plenty there

[rigid mist]

hm didn't know you could do that

[feral geyser]

You could make compacted coal, but i don't suggest making it for the purpose of burning in coal gens.

You could, but I wouldn't.

I does make it burn at about half the speed as regular coal.

[peak wasp]

So I could make more powerplants

[rigid mist]

1200 caterium per second (send help)

[feral geyser]

But there is so much oil on the far side of that lake, just rush that milestone and get fuel.

[next sequoia]

There a crap ton of fuel fs

[rigid mist]

per minute i'm used to factorio mb

[lament niche]

that one is actually a warcrime, you cannot use chemical weapons of any form

[next sequoia]

I got 98 turbofuel generators running and only using half of it

[peak wasp]

Would a boss monster be defeated by TNT?

[feral geyser]

Not just one

[atomic notch]

Yea

[lament niche]

yes

[atomic notch]

Nobelisk🤓

[next sequoia]

Do u gotta attach it to em? I haven't been able to kill very well woth nobelissks

[shy fog]

yes yes, I have been informed

[feral geyser]

You should make a munitions factory down there @peak wasp

[feral geyser]

That's preferred so that if they run, it still blasts them.

[peak wasp]

Like 10?

[feral geyser]

That would for sure do it.

[peak wasp]

How many kills a monster dead

[next sequoia]

Normally I place near them and wait for them to run over it but doesn't work well

Like for the radioactive hogs I gotta do it 5 times or so

[atomic notch]

I got em on passive tbh

[peak wasp]

But yeah according to the crew here I picked the most dangerous area ever to build

Lol

[atomic notch]

Not really

[next sequoia]

Lol not even close

[shy fog]

most dangerous area to build? Under the planet?

[atomic notch]

But semi dangerous for your level

[next sequoia]

There's dangers in this world tou can't even comprehend yet

[peak wasp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1417314565602934824/image.png?ex=68ca088c&is=68c8b70c&hm=c59a9e04e93e29f8b6a5372027b62d5d5e2fee30fa192e409e0630f53a3e5833&

[atomic notch]

If you get better gear youll be fine

[peak wasp]

That's my new build

Is all that black area build able?

[next sequoia]

Yea u just need some netherite armor and an elytra ull be chillin

[feral geyser]

At least there are no radioactive hogs there.

[next sequoia]

Yea just no ground there

[peak wasp]

Nice so it means no terrain to build around

[next sequoia]

Correct

[peak wasp]

I already have space for sky highways

But once I get to trains I can use those

I'm curious can a truck station be used as a way to sort materials

Like three truck stations on the left deliver iron and the ones on the right are for copper

And if I make a tractor stop at each one it'll unload until they are empty

[next sequoia]

U still have the xeno zapper or did u upgrade to basher yet

[peak wasp]

I am bashing

[next sequoia]

Hype

[peak wasp]

I got the basher then went over to the lake

[next sequoia]

U can place down electrical poles and trap the dudes in there then bash their heads in

[peak wasp]

After all the basher is the most powerful of weapons

[atomic notch]

spiders can jump tho

[next sequoia]

Yea watch out lol. There's one big in the forest between spawn and blue lake

For small spiders just keep jumping, big ones jump and run away at same time

[atomic notch]

i think theres a few by the oil too

[next sequoia]

I think those are spitters and hatchers

[atomic notch]

i can check rq

[peak wasp]

Jesus...did I pick a scary area to be around

Giant spiders...boss spitters

[next sequoia]

Untill you get the rebar gun yea but with rebar gun should be fine

[atomic notch]

no its really just an intermediate area

[next sequoia]

I just triple wielded a rebar gun

[feral geyser]

I dual wield rifles, one for turbo, one for homing.

[next sequoia]

Is homing good? I don't know if I've unlocked

I kinda like the normal better. If it had same mag size if go normal fs

[atomic notch]

i got my candy cane on hand for this expedition

[dense violet]

a lot of people like it. not bad for flies.
I prefer turbo. But really up to you

[next sequoia]

I just tank the flies or bash em lol

Not many flies around my parts

Mainly radioactive hogs and green spiders

[shrewd palm]

boombox is a fun way to deal with flies

[dense violet]

I mean if you crouch towards the bulb it also won't release the flies

lots of different ways 🙂

[next sequoia]

Oooh didn't know that

[feral geyser]

I like it for Stingers

Gas Nobelisk also help with wasps, it kills them instantly then you can shoot/hit the Hatcher

[dense violet]

imo all the gun/bomb stuff is pretty gimmicky. Not bad but didn't really add much to the game in differences

They're fine?

[feral geyser]

They're just our way of asserting dominance over the fauna.

[dense violet]

turbo is kinda fun because it goes brrrr, homing just point and click.

[next sequoia]

It tames forever to speed up tho

[dense violet]

a second or two. Fire turbo with the idea that you will empty the whole clip when you pull the trigger. More fun that way

[next sequoia]

True

[dense violet]

it's more annoying if you try to murder thigns with short bursts with it. Not how it's supposed to be used really

[atomic notch]

i love the little ting when you hit things with the candy cane

[feral geyser]

THE CANDY CANE BASHER

I forgot about that one lmao

[atomic notch]

the little sparkle effect is cool too

[cunning siren]

Slooping Aluminum Casings seems like a "no brainer"

[west verge]

Guys I’ve done everything I needed to for today guess what time it is

[peak wasp]

Silly Billy hogs aren't radioactive

[feral geyser]

Oh, you sweet summer child...

[next sequoia]

Just wait

The ones from the nether are

[heavy snow]

Hello

[peak wasp]

Anyways off to get coal

[atomic notch]

#screenshots message dude i never noticed how big these were

[shrewd palm]

basically everything in this game is way bigger than you'd think it would be ngl

[slate totem]

How large should a base be

Is 200x200 foundation too large

[next sequoia]

About the size of your mom

[slate totem]

Thanks

[shrewd palm]

there isnt really any right size

[next sequoia]

Yea 200x 200x is fine lol u doing 1 story or multiple

[shrewd palm]

it can be as big or as small as you like

[slate totem]

10-40

It is a megabase

[next sequoia]

Enjoy that

[dense violet]

there's no set size? why would there be. Any factory you build will be different to other people's factories

also, build in floors. It's a life saver

[wary perch]

I want eggnog in my coffee cup with a candy cane

[next sequoia]

Mines 28x28 #screenshots message

[slate totem]

Just asking for a general size

[next sequoia]

You building a whole campus

[slate totem]

I'm building Chicago maybe

[next sequoia]

1:1 scale I hope

[dense violet]

zero general size. There's too many ways to build.

you also sound very new so don't try to pre plan things. Future proofing is a waste of time

[slate totem]

I have about 150 hours, but I have had the game for about 7 years

Just got a good PC so I can actually play it now

[heavy snow]

does satisfactory come on sale from time to time i cant afford its current price 😭

[slate totem]

I have supported CSS since the beginning

[heavy snow]

css?

casscading style sheet?

[slate totem]

Coffee stain studios

[heavy snow]

oh

[dense violet]

then you should know plan an end point for a factory, with location and recipes, plan size according to that 🙂

[slate totem]

Thanks, I am just wanting to have a central base, maybe do a small bus, and I will definitely have a mall at the top 😀

[coral sundial]

whats a good layout for an iron smelting factory

[slate totem]

How many ore per minute

[coral sundial]

should I do smelters per floor?

Uhh Idk i can OC the miners and do whatever

[next sequoia]

60k a min?

[coral sundial]

i have like 4 nodes there

[next sequoia]

Or closer to 300k?

Oh so like 1200

[coral sundial]

60k a minute???

[next sequoia]

I'm just messing with you

[coral sundial]

oh

[slate totem]

Have yall met my friend @mental berry ?

[next sequoia]

I like to put my smelters all together, then spread it out from there

[slate totem]

I have heard he torments you

[coral sundial]

i see

[next sequoia]

But if you like it a diff way by all means try it out

[coral sundial]

should I run a belt from each miner and then to a floor for each smelter pod?

[next sequoia]

Something like that yea

Overclock your miners fs tho

[coral sundial]

full OC?

[next sequoia]

Yea

[coral sundial]

Ok

[next sequoia]

One of best use for shards

[coral sundial]

i gotta find more slugs

[next sequoia]

Only turn slugs j to shards if you have sommersloops to duplicate tnem

Unless you really desperate

[stray herald]

@peak wasp Nice progress!

[coral sundial]

oh I can duplicate them??

[next sequoia]

Yea if u research enoigh and put sommersloop in crafter it gives double output

[coral sundial]

oh ok

[next sequoia]

So 10 shards from purple slug

[coral sundial]

niceee

[boreal musk]

you know how little that narrows it down

theres a lot of way to do efficient layout

and efficient in what sense?
power?
space? etc

[coral sundial]

im so overstimulated rn with this game

[cunning siren]

Did drone fuel consumption get reduced? 🤔

[warm phoenix]

Real
so much to do
so little brain to plan

[white dawn]

I don't think it's changed since the update which introduced multiple fuels for drones

[heavy snow]

yoo guys how the hell do i actually design a good factory 😭

[shrewd palm]

lots of planning + trial and error

[zenith pecan]

That is not a simple question as we all have our own requirements, styles and systems.

[shrewd palm]

dont be pressured to get something perfect first try

just play around with it until you're happy

[heavy snow]

i mean just going in game and placing stuff until you feel its good enough isnt the way right?

[zenith pecan]

And get used to knocking down earlier factories to expand or move.

[zenith pecan]

This is an example of what happens when I just make shit up as I go along, only a rudimentary idea and just see how it fits as I chuck in the floors and machines #satisfactory-experimental message

[dense violet]

sort out how much ore you're smelting, then how many smelters you need. Done

[shrewd palm]

now that ive started caring about aesthetics thats what ive been doing

[heavy snow]

i am sorry but you built all that with no plan 😭 ?

[zenith pecan]

Pretty much.

[shrewd palm]

most people i think get the general layout planned

[heavy snow]

also my pc specs wont really be a problem for big factories right?

[shrewd palm]

but other than that yeah

[heavy snow]

i mean i get abt 49-55 fps on medium settings (no lumen)

[shrewd palm]

1. what are your specs
2. how big are we talking

[heavy snow]

and my cpu is pinned at 100c for most of the time (idk why i should prob check my cooler out)

[dense violet]

tha'ts not great

[heavy snow]

well yea 😭

[shrewd palm]

if you're talking about things around this size, they absolutely will hurt performance#screenshots message

[zenith pecan]

Here's another no-real-plan layout, the project properly got away from me when I was laying it out #screenshots message , the tools plan didn't really spell out just how much room it would take just to use up a couple of out of the way quartz nodes.

[heavy snow]

what gpu do you guys have?

[zenith pecan]

Rtx3090.

[shrewd palm]

im on a 3060ti, although with this game your cpu is going to be hurting more than your gpu

[atomic notch]

rx 5500xt

[heavy snow]

i am on a rx580 and i3 12100f 😭

[zenith pecan]

Much better these days, my early access save was infamous for making peoples computers crash and burn, as was its like 40gb ram requirement to load.

[shrewd palm]

40gb?!?!?!

wtf lmao

[slate totem]

I ran it on 8

[shy fog]

... I've seen worse in my times

[slate totem]

On a shitty laptop

[shrewd palm]

im on 16gb rn although i should probably upgrade that soon

[slate totem]

With a plastic cooler

[shrewd palm]

some of these newer games are getting a little out of hand

[shy fog]

thank you for making me picture "satisfactory 2"

[zenith pecan]

Most people build a huge megafactory that eats a biome, my old map had like four such structures that swallowed entire biomes on several planes: this one for example was emergency power under the dunes: #design-and-architecture message

[slate totem]

Does anyone here run a dedicated server?

[shrewd palm]

minimum 5090 and 32gb ram (recommended to also run a 9950X3D) but in exchange you get to pollute planets in stunning 1080p at a buttery smooth 45 fps

[slate totem]

Nvidia Blackwell h100

[shy fog]

oh no, you made me think about the trade federation: This is getting out of hand, now there are two of them!

[slate totem]

Ten

[heavy snow]

is a rx6500xt enough?

[shrewd palm]

i consider anything in the 30 series or amd equiavlent to be a pretty good baseline

although some of the super high end 20 series cards are pretty good too, but they're not as advanced as newer cards

[dense violet]

yeah a 3070gtx is inexpensive and runs it solidly

[heavy snow]

I cant go with nvida

[atomic notch]

im rockin the 5500 so it should be fine

[slate totem]

AMD for life unless it's a server

[zenith pecan]

Tbh I'm just glad I have 64gb of ram, my constant construction would have crashed and burned long ago without it.

[shrewd palm]

amd is better anyways icl

[shy fog]

anyway... back to work on the last phase 4 elevator part...

[heavy snow]

I mean my current setup doesnt support nvidia(also i hate nvidia)

[zenith pecan]

I do have a way of seeing if I could build something, not weather I should, it results in shit like this bauxite refinery #screenshots message

[zenith pecan]

The ram requirements actually dropped to 31gb after coffee stain changed the foundations to be so-called simple objects that didn't do their own calculations though.

[shrewd palm]

what did you even build that could use 40gb of ram

[shy fog]

tornados

[zenith pecan]

Turbofuel backup that was 1km by 1.1km in size, fed by a tunnel network, nuclear power that sucked up all the worlds uranium, emergency power that was about the size of the dunes, just under the main factory, rubber/plastics refinery that sucked up all of the spire coast, and so on ...

[shrewd palm]

i see

that would probably do it

[zenith pecan]

Out of date tunnel map here #satisfactory-experimental message , my save stopped loading in SCIM after a while, just crashing it.

[shrewd palm]

at least it looks really clean

[zenith pecan]

That's just whats under the map.

[zenith pecan]

My current game has a growing tunnel network too 😄 #screenshots message , here's all the worlds SAM arriving to be animated, the clip was taken before I expanded.

[shrewd palm]

do you have any plans for more factories like that or is it just gonna be tunnels and small outposts

[atomic notch]

I rember the tunnel map

[zenith pecan]

You've seen the bauxite refinery, it is one of many large scale constructs on the cards when I settle back into construction.

I'm planning on an even larger nuclear installation that will result in me having a truly sickening amount of electric, I already have 1.1Tw from my rocket fuel + support tower.

I'm also going to be converting the direct tubeway station into a teleport hub instead, because why not 😄

It'll be way less effort than my old cannonway and it won't be succeptible to performance killing it.

[atomic notch]

Dude i was just workin on a push/pull train blue print that fit like 9 in a mk3

Its gonna be fun dude. Lots of trains

[zenith pecan]

I never did do much with trains, my one success story was on the roof of my old baux refinery, the one in my current save is triple the size 🤣

[mortal ginkgo]

HANDS UP! THIS IS A ROBBERY!

Give me your Encased Modular Frame recipe NOW!

[heavy snow]

yoo peeps i fixed my overheating cpu

but now my whole pc is unstable and my arch is broken

yay

[plain gate]

naur i use flexible 😛😛

[mortal ginkgo]

ok now THIS is wild

[plain gate]

theres plenty of oil on the map

only takes like 1000 to make 100hmf

[slate totem]

I wonder if you could build a computer with generators, fuel, and power/prio switches

[feral geyser]

If you want logic gates, just use the Circuitry mod

[slate totem]

I meant in vanilla creative, because I hate easy things

[feral geyser]

I understand the allure though. We used to build computer stuff in Astroneer.

I made music machines and all sorts of stuff

[slate totem]

Cool.

[dense violet]

you can make switches with priority mergers and smart splitters by turning on and off miners as 'trash' resources to block production of things?

I've seen people do it before

[slate totem]

You could use generators and fuel lines to power on and off lines automatically

I will try and make POC tomorrow

[dense violet]

yeah people do that too

[glad drum]

Guys I'm laying in bed thinking about trains and I wanna know if it's possible to build a single rail loop from bauxite back to my base but only use 1 train car.

The thing is, I want to completely saturate the line so that the entire line is always completely full of trains with 1 cargo car.

Will this even work

[dense violet]

they'll use the prio and smart spliters to flick them like that

[dense violet]

attaching pumps to power and unpower them to flick genrators on works too

[slate totem]

Does anyone know if the is a plugin system for server, as in server side mods? If not, I might look into making one

[dense violet]

the more trains that stop at a station the lower the throughput. You'd have to have a LOT of stations

[dense violet]

some mods are server friendly if that's your question?

[plain gate]

thats less than one node

[slate totem]

I meant is there a loader for having server side mods not needed on the client

[plain gate]

bauxite are in groups of 1500-2400 so no not a really good idea

[dense violet]

!modding

huh, SF bot is down.

ask in the modding server

[glad drum]

Ah so it'd have to be like 10 stations for each 10 cars and they all load up at the same time then depart then the next batch of 10 comes in on their own special station

[slate totem]

I have done modding before and understand it well, but I am asking is there a way to have server side mods or plugins, adding a chat command for example

[dense violet]

kinda yeah? but if you want the whole line packed you'd need a LOT more than 10 stations on either end

[dense violet]

You'd have to ask in the modding discord xD

nfi

[slate totem]

Can you DM me a invite?

[zenith pecan]

With how spread out the bauxite is along its line, I would really hate to try getting it all onto a rail system, it was trouble enough for me getting all of it into one tunnel headed east.

[glad drum]

Hmm ill try to think of other ways to overcomplicate trains in the mean time tyvm

Maybe I'll try the single train car saturation for something lower throughput

[dense violet]

You could just have 1 very long train that fills up basically the whole rail system? and only have the first few cars have items in it

[glad drum]

I was considering that too! That would be funny

[dense violet]

you'd want a lot of engines, to keep the momentum going

[zenith pecan]

Your train would look like this #satisfactory-experimental message

[glad drum]

How slow can a train go while still moving forward lmao

[plain gate]

its a lot of verticality along the red forest and titan as well as from the west red forst to spire coast

terrain is not great at all

[dense violet]

very. Theoretically if the loop is completely flat, 1 engine can pull any number of cars

it's just a very slow acceleration

[glad drum]

Thank you. I've decided I actually don't love that

[dense violet]

@zenith pecan pfft, just gotta hit the terrain like a pro 😛

[zenith pecan]

That's why I sent 12300 bauxite into the tunnel heading east 🙂

[glad drum]

It is funny but it doesn't match my aesthetic... I think I need lots of FAST stuff

[dense violet]

#design-and-architecture message

as I fail to paste the link in the original msg >.>

[plain gate]

how do u get the red forest bauxite then

[zenith pecan]

From below, via mine shaft.

[glad drum]

Is there a speed cap for adding like 10 engines for 1 cart

[plain gate]

faceful of leaves when ya driving

[dense violet]

pishaw, clean clean rail https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/932761153703149659/1397057076345307186/image.png?ex=68ca2a4b&is=68c8d8cb&hm=7df1696dbb8b874cae2a4166ed25717eb78115a7ca7f85ac00a768d01a57806b&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[plain gate]

yeah therees a spedd limiter

120kmh

unless you go roller coaster style

ive seen like 300kmh

[glad drum]

Can trains derail at high speeds or just when they hit other trains

[zenith pecan]

While this doesn't show the bauxite highway, it is exactly the same system moving all the worlds SAM, as the one shifting all the worlds bauxite https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga4LcICPnkI , I mean it when I said tunnels and access from below.

[dense violet]

just other trains.

or if they run out of rail I guess now

[glad drum]

I may go for a super fast roller coaster train speeding around my base then! Thank you for your help

If only they c0uld do loop de loops

[plain gate]

as of 1.1, apparently from running off a dead end

[cunning siren]

Nitro Rocket Fuel build is super easy AND eats a lot of sulfur too 🤔

[zenith pecan]

Not THAT bad on sulphur unless you build like my three towers station.

[dense violet]

it's fairly sulfur intense

[cunning siren]

It's more than twice the sulfur of the most efficent setup 🤷

[zenith pecan]

Still enough sulphur on the map for me to max nuclear and have ammunition production so it is a none issue.

Though going ammo nuts isn't strictly needed, I have a million snowballs in cold storage, that's enough to bomb the entire map flat like twice over.

And no, I mean literally a million, it is not hyperbole, the storage floor is a monster full of industrial cans.

[atomic notch]

Bros def compensating

[zenith pecan]

What a wierd thing to claim, I just build properly and finally when I'm in a position to do so.

[atomic notch]

Ik im just makin a joke since all ur builds are huge

[zenith pecan]

Not that huge, there are always going to be bigger, granted most are done in a creative or modded save but still 😄

At least this time, the million snowball hall is actually above the ground 😛

Here's the old one that was below ground https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfcFwttMisQ , Maybe I went ever so slightly overboard, but I don't like being short of things that go boom.

[cunning glade]

Why won't straight build straight

It curves at the end like fucking stop

[dense violet]

I think it does that if hte start is a bit weird. Just use regular mode

[upper gale]

Yeah use default unless you're making a turn

[atomic notch]

curve

[versed mesa]

Quick question about the Depot uploader

[dense violet]

is it trying to feed multiple item types into a single depot?

[rigid glen]

one item per depot is safest, because feeding mixed will become stuck very easily and quickly once on item gets maxxed

[versed mesa]

When ive place it down uploaded something into it and the dismantle it will everything still be stored in there still fir the next time I craft it again to add mire to it ?

[shy fog]

the uploader stores by default a single stack, but yes, they remain even if uploader is deconstructed

[versed mesa]

Or wow thats cool

[atomic notch]

the dimensional depot is just a door

[shy fog]

personally say spend 5 uploaders for concrete and 2 for iron plates...

[versed mesa]

A door to a storage server

[shy fog]

never outta foundation ftw

[feral geyser]

And also you can upload from your inventory eventually

[feral geyser]

Or is it... á ẅįñďòẁ?

[versed mesa]

So they going to add this then ?

[rigid glen]

It's already there, on the tech tree

[feral geyser]

It is already a thing, you have to unlock it in the MAM

[shy fog]

inventory direct upload is a research on the mam

[rigid glen]

the one in the middle of that portion

[versed mesa]

Ah i get it

[atomic notch]

no the window is the one in your inventory

[versed mesa]

I was looking there recently

[cunning siren]

Gotz teh turbo ammo OH yea

Turbo to all the things

[zenith pecan]

Shame I can't combine turbo ammo with nuclear devices 😈

[feral geyser]

Bratatata

[feral geyser]

Turbo nuke launcher

[versed mesa]

Ah its manually depot the one that I need to unlock for inventory one

[atomic notch]

turbo explosive ammo

[peak wasp]

Thanks started up a power grid

[versed mesa]

Soon I can research it

Ok back to my project ive been delayed smh

In abit when done with my oil home ill share the pic

[peak wasp]

So am I powering right?

[atomic notch]

there should be some computers layin around for the research

[peak wasp]

#screenshots message

[rigid glen]

Looks good, though I would have piped the water lines directly into the main artery, one at each end and o0ne in the middle

but if it works, it works, 🙂

[atomic notch]

u might have to underclock some stuff for 100%efficiency

[feral geyser]

You actually can't do it like that, you are trying to move 360 through that single pipe between the two manifolds

You should have at least two pipes coming from your water extractors

[dense violet]

!wikisearch CG

.... damn bot not working

[atomic notch]

you actually can u just have to underclock

[rigid glen]

I agree in theory, but I bet this one could work

[rigid glen]

No need to underclock,

Just manifold

[feral geyser]

Then you are providing less water, which means clock down the gens, which means less power

[dense violet]

try a layout like this https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/images/Coal_Generator_Schematic.png?51a782=&format=original

[peak wasp]

yeah but I was told that is was 3 extracters to 8 coal reactors

[atomic notch]

100 for each extractor then underclock the gens accordingly

[dense violet]

you need the 2 pipes for 360 fluid

[peak wasp]

that math didn't make very much sense to me

[zenith pecan]

I haven't seen that break often, I guess the mods will have to give the bot a kick in the rear.

[feral geyser]

It is, but you need two pipes cuz those 3 extractors are trying to move 360 total, and a mk1 pipe only can move 300

[dense violet]

the bot seems to die at least once a month

[rigid glen]

This right, it works because the generators are constantly using water and that lets the full 360 into the system even using 300 pipes

[rigid glen]

it works

[atomic notch]

doesnt stop the fact its one pipe feeding it

[rigid glen]

If it didn't work the 48 I have running wouldn't be running

[feral geyser]

I guess if their consumption is staggered enough, maybe, but I would risk it, just throw another pipe segment between the two manifolds.

[rigid glen]

I know, but because that one pipe is feeding directly to the middle of the 8, it may work. ALSO, i advised them to add the water in multipkle points, not just one

so I agree

[zenith pecan]

You do need to pipe it right for an 8:3 to actually work, here's an old example of mine #1368184180332298371 message

[rigid glen]

I use three feeder pipes into each manifold, more is better

[zenith pecan]

The centre water extractors output is split two ways.

[atomic notch]

yeah but it still a mk1 pipe only 300 pm

[rigid glen]

I was just commenting that the method Titanium used might work, but why risk it

[rigid glen]

I told them to add more connections, let's let it go

[atomic notch]

im just saying it would work but you would have to underclock for 100%efficiency

[upper gale]

The best way is just one manifold instead of two like that one

[rigid glen]

Anyway, it looks great, so if you just change the water connection you can copy and paste the design to build up capacity 🙂

[twilit tinsel]

how much like copper i make

[dense violet]

however much you want? there's about 40,000 possible ore pm on the map

[twilit tinsel]

idk i also dont know if i wanna do like the pure copper recipe rn

[dense violet]

step 1: decide what your output goal is
step 2: decide on recipes and location 🙂

future proofing is a fool's game. Just build what you need now

[upper gale]

I mean you probably need wires and cables right so check those

[twilit tinsel]

i think ill do 12000

[upper gale]

That's a lot haha

[dense violet]

what tier are you at right now?

[rigid glen]

what could you possibly need with that much copper

other than copper powder

[twilit tinsel]

i mean theres like 3 pure nodes and and a few normal nodes right by the ocean so...

[cunning siren]

DO want a mod that auto uploads to depot 🤔

[dense violet]

that's not going to be enough for 12,000 ingots. And unless you're making a very large and copper heavy project that's gonna be mostly going to waste. But you do you

[cunning siren]

Like if the item can go into the depot from inventory it does it

[rigid glen]

I don't really try to complain about iventory management in a building game

[twilit tinsel]

it should be but i just like making a lot of like low teir stuff its fun and not that hard

[dense violet]

seems a bit pointless ?

[rigid glen]

😛 and also, depots were a game changes, I'm not complaining

[dense violet]

I'd aim for Copper alloy then. Much simpler. chew up spare iron ore

[woeful gale]

can Ficsonium Fuel Rod be use in drone?

also do ficsonium is kinda pointless cuz it generate so little energy, just a way to process plutonium waste?

[dense violet]

basically. Easiest way to manage it is to just not burn the p rods in the first place

the point of ficsonium really is 'do you think the process is fun?' , if so? do it. If not? avoid it

[rigid glen]

wasteless nuclear power is the goal of that branch of tech I think

i will never build it lol

I doubt i'll ever build a basic setup with waste to store'

[stable berry]

Sup guys I have a dumb question

Is it me or is my hover pack faster now that I completed phase 4 ?

[narrow canyon]

Diff fuel changes performance

[stable berry]

Hoverpack

[rigid glen]

or did you accidentallyhit shift and had never done it before

[stable berry]

I did shift

It always felt slow

I just completed phase 4 and Im zooming

[narrow canyon]

Doh!

[rigid glen]

I mean, I don't think there is a speed boost for progressing, but shrug I won't say your wrong lol

[cursive phoenix]

Guys wich tier do i unlock coal

[stable berry]

4 I think

[narrow canyon]

Technically when you find some....

[stable berry]

Its 3 my bad

[cursive phoenix]

No way ive got to put up with biomass fuel for that long

[stable berry]

Its not that far trust me

Its only 50 smartplates and a few parts for unlocking

Youll be there in no time

[dense violet]

punch about 10,000 leaves, turn it all into solid biomass. Gets you to coal pretty easily

takes about 8min of sprinting around holding e

[rigid glen]

I try to have reinforced plates and rotors automated before moving to Tier 3, makes the smart plating and Logistics MK2 very easy

[stable berry]

Ah yes you just reminded me

Finally mk 6

[rigid glen]

Once you automat6e solid biofuel, it's wa yless annoying

[stable berry]

Just dont bother with 3 constructors

Make one for solid and handmake biomass

[rigid glen]

No way, I have a bin for leaves, a bin for wood, and two lanes making biomass

why only automate half?

[stable berry]

Bro

I cant bother I just click space and go smoke a cigartte

[rigid glen]

lol

To each their own

[stable berry]

Idk why but I fell like its a waste of space since wood is just 1 click

[rigid glen]

I just don't the hand making whenever I can avoid it

specifically repetitive ones

[stable berry]

I mean that early ino the game you have to hand make loads of stuff

[stray herald]

You enjoying the game?:)

[rigid glen]

We're not going to change each other's minds 🙂 which is fine

[stable berry]

And im not trying to

I mean after the tier 4 you stop hand making so atleast me

[peak wasp]

I am yes when I'm not missing tractors to ride

[solar hamlet]

Last time I played... About 10 months ago I got to aluminium processing and burned out...

Now the sirens call of factories is back... And of course with the caveat that I should restart. And do it better this time. (Which will not happen, I'm still terrible builder 😄 )

[rigid glen]

If you can get over the double hump of basic and advanced aluminum and not want to end it by making a marge fuel gen setup, then you can reach end game in small steps

I was the same as you for a long time util 1.0

[peak wasp]

You know what's cool

Trucks

[stray herald]

lao

[peak wasp]

The stations act like really powerful nodes

[stray herald]

Wait until you get trains and drones

[dense violet]

treat the tiers like a tutorial that teaches you 🙂 screwing it up is part of learning

[solar hamlet]

I have issues with returning to saves... For all games. And factory games especially because it feels ultra daunting to try to decipher what the heck I was doing.

So I will probably restart 😅 and make my train lines next to each other instead of above each other.

And then burn out again around alumni:D

[peak wasp]

Like if you queue up a whole bunch of truck stations one by one you can actually have a truck drive along them and combine the load of many iron nodes together

[zenith pecan]

Screwing up can be hilarious too.

[peak wasp]

Trucking means you can have bases wherever you want

[dense violet]

stacked rail is so good though ! #design-and-architecture message

[solar hamlet]

Like, I don't mind the screwing up. I just hate that I can't get better at architecture:D

[stable berry]

Don't trucks like create more problems than they solve ?

[dense violet]

wait until you've unlocked everything and then worry about pretty.

a huge part of making things pretty in this game is having really solid logistics skills

[peak wasp]

Like I get 202 items per minute at a base in the middle of nowhere

[solar hamlet]

I know. I got inspired by you to use them last year :D. Probably have pics in the design chat. Let me look

[rigid glen]

I'm always jealous of the good designers. I saw a vid today for a water packaging plant that was SO good looking I wanted to uninstall lol

[dense violet]

xD I don't remember but glad I inspired someone xD

[peak wasp]

So that's like having a pure node right in your base

[heavy snow]

finally managed to fix my pc 🥹

[peak wasp]

I love the fact I can just combine a whole bunch of impure nodes and have them be useful

[dense violet]

really like jinxing yourself eh?

[heavy snow]

oh no 😭

[rigid glen]

If someone has you blocked, does that prevent you from leaving an emoji?

[solar hamlet]

#design-and-architecture message

They are still there 😄 almost a year since I bashed my head against them 😄

[solar hamlet]

I've seen video about a factory complex to make rocket fuel with a ton to trains and trucks on purpose... It's what gave me the sirens call to maybe go play again 😄

[dense violet]

oh I remember them! what was the issue you were having? they look great

[rigid glen]

Have you seen the floating city with the spiral of trains that reach from ground to the city above?

[dense violet]

I had saved at least one of those images because I really liked how you did the sides of them 😄

[solar hamlet]

I think it was just actually placing them in the world.

Tbh I burned out on aluminium not actually the train design. 😄

Even though actually placing the train lines is pita.

[dense violet]

well happy to help with alumina, its very easy with a couple little tricks.

and there's a really easy trick for placing those train pylons in a tidy way

basically makes it a breeze

[solar hamlet]

Do tell, I'll put down notes. For when I actually get to playing 😁

[rigid glen]

Cobalt, do you have a setting that stops me from leaving a reaction emoji?

[rigid glen]

Once you see how the aluminum chains work, it makes planning a bit easier, and then it's just more math 🙂

It took me several tries

[dense violet]

pinged in other channel

[solar hamlet]

I think I've just played too much while trying to place the factory in very inconvenient location on purpose that game me the push to stop.
And life got in the way to get back to the save in timely manner so now it feels wrong to resume 😄 especially with the new 1.1 stuff

[solar hamlet]

Thank you. I'll add it into my pile of satisfactory stuff. 😄

[rigid glen]

Oh, I'm not saying go back, def start over if you want to, I'm just saying I know the pain of aluminum setup and how it can feel like a wal

[solar hamlet]

I still have recipe chains and ratio on my desktop from year ago 😄

[solar hamlet]

I wish I could go back... But my brain just hates it.

I can't even go back to Skyrim or other simpler stuff.

It's why I have so many games unfinished.

[dense violet]

I feel yo uwith skyrim. Tried going back with a full list of mods but I just lost steam

[zenith pecan]

steam down ?

[peak wasp]

Trucking was a bigger discovery then cocaine

[lofty juniper]

ngl there should be oganossen fuel rods

[dense violet]

nwod meats, even

[covert sphinx]

#announcements message

whoever dislikes the 1.0 anniversary party is a LOSER >:(

[stable berry]

Bro my ears were bleeding from listening to if while building a hub on a new save with my frend

I love it and support but its loud

[dense violet]

you can barely hear it outside the door xD

[stable berry]

Cap

[covert sphinx]

turn down your volume if it’s THAT loud 💔

[stable berry]

I did

I didnt turn it off on my own world just with my frend

[covert sphinx]

my factory kinda drowns out the music

[stable berry]

Sice we just started and are around the hub a lot

[golden plank]

I’m waiting for it to come out on ps5 and already know how I WANT it to look but it will probably just be a mess😂

[stable berry]

I mean he turned it off

He the host

[covert sphinx]

he’s a big nerd then

[stable berry]

xD

He struggled to make screws

[covert sphinx]

justice for Jason ✊

[stable berry]

I felt bad when I the clip on discord honestly

[covert sphinx]

bro I’m over here struggling to make AI server things and your friend is over here struggling to make screws 💔🥀

is he new?

[stable berry]

It was hilarious

[stable berry]

Ye ye his 1st time playing

[covert sphinx]

oh sweet
He will (probably) get better

[stable berry]

I was patient shoved him 1 example and let him figure out the screws

But man did I laugh at him trying to put miner after the rod constructor

So far he has 85 mins in game

He figured it out eventually tho

[inland ridge]

Quick Question, So do many people squeeze and entire manufacturer part into a single blueprint? Like from raw mats to finished product? Just wondering, because i just fit an entire modular frame recipe from bars and lime stone into one blueprint producing 2/min with room to spare. its was done in a mk2 blueprint pad.

[tacit ocean]

5-6 for the large charger

the small spitter die in like 3 hits with the rebar gun

yeah the small bois usually die in 3 hits

[dense violet]

I'm sure some do? all depends on your style

[versed mesa]

I thought Coal gens can take Coke as the same thing

Because my coal gens are not taking Coke

[dense violet]

they do. Is there a little coal left over or something/

[versed mesa]

Ive got some in storage

[dense violet]

I mean in the machines. Although I think they get burned 1 at a time so that shouldn't be an issue

[teal geyser]

I can’t remember, do coal generators produce power if they are not hooked up to a cable/power pole?

[dense violet]

they haveto be hooked up to something. Even if it's a pole on it's own

[teal geyser]

I’m wondering why his coal gens aren’t working with coke

[dense violet]

if they aren't hooked upt oa socket or something that def could be teh cause

iirc generators won't start burning fuel unless they are. Don't know if they accept it or not ?

[versed mesa]

@dense violet so have added little bit of coal to the coal gens but I font think its going to take Coke as replacement to burn

[teal geyser]

Coke should burn in the coal generators though. There must be something wrong with your setup

Coal gens can burn 3 things in the game: Coal, Compacted Coal or Petroleum Coke

[feral geyser]

they definitely do accept petroleum coke

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch cg

[versed mesa]

Ive got conveyor belts going into the gens

[feral geyser]

bot is busted

[dense violet]

it won't take it at long as there is coal inside the fuel slot

[hard ivy]

Fine, I'll do it myself
https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Coal-Powered_Generator

[feral geyser]

okay, Jean-Batiste Emmanuel Zorg, go off king

#off-topic-media message

[versed mesa]

I dont get it am really struggle to understand this lol

[feral geyser]

since i can't put gifs here

[versed mesa]

So number 1 water is going in fine

[feral geyser]

the coke will only go in on the belt if the coal gen also has coke in it

if the gen has coal currently in it, it won't take coke from the belt

[versed mesa]

Number 2 Coke is on conveyor belts attached to the Coal Gens

[teal geyser]

Or if it was freshly placed and is empty of either of the 3 fuels

[versed mesa]

But they are not burning the Coke

[feral geyser]

are they all plugged in?

[teal geyser]

Are the generators hooked up to the power grid with cables?

[dense violet]

if there is coal inside the fuel slot, coke won't enter

you need to connect the coal generator to a power pole for it to run

[versed mesa]

Hold on a minute I think i get it one moment

[teal geyser]

He is cooking lol

[dense violet]

🥓 🫘

[versed mesa]

I think i know the issue fir at least one of the gens i made trial and error

So the plastic went to one of the gens and theres still plastic stuck

Lol

[feral geyser]

bruh 😭

[dense violet]

... that'd do it

[versed mesa]

Lmfao

[teal geyser]

Some messed up, spaghetti belting

[feral geyser]

that's why i only ever mix belts right before a sink

[teal geyser]

Did it show up when you hovered the dismantle tool over it?

Or on the belt leading into the generator

[versed mesa]

Its because my mind was struggling to think and get thing done correctly so that was my first mistake thinking Coke was going there at one moment but turned out it was plastic so I removed belts and readied but plastic it still stuck in the Gen

[coral glacier]

How can you mess up spaghetti belts?

[teal geyser]

I meant like how did he end up with plastic on a belt leading into a coal generator

[coral glacier]

Is this Josh or?

[feral geyser]

bro out here gov'mint naming and shit

[dense violet]

I assume the coke was by product from plastic and it got hooked around by mistake

[versed mesa]

Now its taking the Coke probkem fixed lol

[harsh anvil]

Hey there, folks. Started a new save and I have a design question.

Last save, I built my factories directly on the ground, which meant that I destroyed any plants on the ground first, including the nutrient plants. This time, I'd like to have my factories in the air, but still connected to the ground in a way that at least looks plausible. What strategies do you use to make it appear so?

[dense violet]

thick foundations? And use multiple floors. You'll use less 'ground'

[versed mesa]

Ive got one more gen to remove and rebuild then ill be good but my controller died so got it on charge now

[dense violet]

should jsut be able to delete the belt leading ot hte gen

the plastic won't enter it

[versed mesa]

I bet many of you make the mistakes I made

[feral geyser]

you probably only have to rebuild belts

[versed mesa]

But i did and plastic was stuck in the gen

[feral geyser]

no it wasn't, the plastic won't go INTO the gen

[dense violet]

if you delete the belt, you'll see the plastic on the belt. It'll never actually enter the buffer

as coal gens cannot accept anything other than coal or coke

[versed mesa]

Or damn

[teal geyser]

Stuck as you couldn’t see it without a dismantle tool

It looks like it is the gen

[feral geyser]

all you have to do is delete the belts leading up to it

[versed mesa]

I thought original i did remove the belts because of plastic was going to the gen am so confused with my self lmfao

[feral geyser]

well, it seems you got it now lol

[versed mesa]

We up and running now i did not need to delete the gen but just the belt

[feral geyser]

also, there are a few ingot recipes for the foundry that improve conversion rate, that use pet.coke. as a second

[feral geyser]

i use concrete or metal pillars at the corners, and catwalk or elevators to help get up into the building

[versed mesa]

Ive just built the sink and ive feeding it Coke

[feral geyser]

also yeah, using floors helps prevent lateral footprint

[feral geyser]

just overflow from what feeds the gen?

[versed mesa]

Yeah your right will not work

[feral geyser]

yeah, i thought you were using the coke in gens, not sinking it...

[versed mesa]

@feral geyser what do you recommend with the sink ?

[feral geyser]

either way is fine, but if you are using it in the gens, put a smart splitter at the end of that manifold that only sends overflow to the sink (so it keeps the gens full and sinks the rest)

[teal geyser]

So the heavy oil never backs up

[feral geyser]

exactly

and if you are sinking more than 25/min, build more coal gens

[versed mesa]

Ok thanks ill do that now

[stray herald]

Any ideas for a second playthrough? I got all achievements already

[solar hamlet]

More architecture. And especially impractical one.

Trucks trains etc for the sake of it. Not that it's needed.

[feral geyser]

Beat it by only using supplies provided by doggos and crash sites (you can harvest food and biomass)

[solar hamlet]

Make the factory in several buildings instead of just one.

[stray herald]

What if I had doggo employees in my factory

[dense violet]

that sounds fairly standard xD

[feral geyser]

Honestly, we should be able to give them hardhats

I know someone made a mod that gives the Beans hardhats

[solar hamlet]

Something like this 😄 https://youtu.be/hfYtbsmFyxw?si=sa-qkVPmk2Sr_At3

That video had me mesmerized... I could never build something like this 😄

And I absolutely adore the pipes as hoses.

[versed mesa]

Instead of removing one splitter can another replace it just by placing it where it already is one ?

[dense violet]

try it. I doubt yo ucan change a merger to a splitter though

[versed mesa]

Its not a merger its a splitter

[dense violet]

yeah I know , I was just saying you can try splitter to splitter.

[versed mesa]

Ok

Nah i needed to delete it

We good now

Thanks

[cursive crane]

Ctrl click I believe enables this

[versed mesa]

Am using my controller

[cursive crane]

Hmm

Should still be an equivelant control for that I would think. No idea what it would be though

[versed mesa]

Thanks ill work it out

[cursive phoenix]

20
Hours on this game in 2 days, its like crack

[bleak spire]

https://danhopark232.github.io/Satisfactory-Calculator/
Hi Guys, I made a satisfactory factory planner and its still work in progress. I hope this could help players and welcome any feedbacks 🙂

[hard ivy]

Why do people keep making calculators for this game
Isn't the dozen we already have enough???

[dense violet]

doesn't seem to have all the alt recipes?

[grim ermine]

There is more than 10 that I know of 😔

I always see people choosing scim over satisfactory modeller(what i use). But what are the advantages of using scim

[dense violet]

or the ability to run machines at less than 100%?

maybe xD

[hard ivy]

Who tf would willingly use SCIM while knowing of literally any other calculator?

[grim ermine]

I dont know

I see a lot of people using it

Ive never even looked at it

[bleak spire]

Sorry its still work in progress, so there is no alt recipes by now

[dense violet]

SCIM and tools can output a full plan with like 2 clicks.
Modeler is more of a layout tool

[dense violet]

no sweat. Some way that shows the flow of items would be very useful as well.

[bleak spire]

This is interesting point, I never thought about this I will keep in mind

[hard ivy]

Do yourself a favour and write a parser for the game docs or extracted game files. All the recipes are just there

[bleak spire]

I did a data crawling on the satisfactory wiki and extracted recipes from there

[versed mesa]

I can now say am officially stuck from my 2nd refiner to my 3rd

[bleak spire]

oh you mean I can get recipes from the local game file?

[versed mesa]

So i was hoping fuel would instantly package but turns out I need another to make it packaged

[bleak spire]

so I do not have to data crawling or do other works to get recipes?

[versed mesa]

I mite have to rest and try again later

[hard ivy]

Yeah, there are the game docs, which are just json files with recipes and other stuff, or you can use fmodel to extract data straight from the game files

[versed mesa]

So what I can check off my list is the oil is creating plastic and Coke and the Coke feeding my coal Gen

[hard ivy]

The docs are definitely easier to use but there was that one fiasco when 1.0 released and matrices were missing

[bleak spire]

Thats a great feedback thanks

I had hard time making json recipes.

[versed mesa]

It seams I mite have to expand the location bigger be what I have set up right now is not as big as I thought if I am trying to create other stuff

I need to find away to mas produce canisters so those and fuel can go into the pachager machine together to create packaged fuel

[dense violet]

could ask @reef basin about it

[versed mesa]

How wide are your guys oil factories

[dense violet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/558721941410807812/1357870180679815258/big_r_2.png?ex=68c9fca7&is=68c8ab27&hm=4bc9c02972f7e29a066d08b0c2caced8c84eec3c710e633bab676b4478907752&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1196&height=716

[versed mesa]

So am just thinking more now so basically ive got to produce everything todo with oil at my factory so that means being a giant factory to cover it all

[versed mesa]

Holy smokes just as I thought

[versed mesa]

Is this yours ?

[hard ivy]

Why would you need to mass produce packaged fuel?

[versed mesa]

How else am I going to empty the refiner while creating resin also

[tacit ocean]

the jetpack and/or vehicle automation

[versed mesa]

Dude

Am trying to keep my cool right now

Lol

[versed mesa]

Its not mass oroduce but to create one thing i need one thats in the refiner and 2nd one i need to crafted it like make a farm thats producing it and send both of those over to pachager at the same time

[solar hamlet]

Is there alternative for the map. Or are you just talking about the calculator there?

[versed mesa]

Like the fuel it self seam i can't just extract it and put in storage without doing packaging

[gusty temple]

There's liquid storage, if that's your issue

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Fluid_Buffer

[versed mesa]

Ah that what I need then am stupid lol

[gusty temple]

No worries

[versed mesa]

I was thinking I was able to store in normal unit

Am slow at thinking

Need my rest again to reset lol

[daring girder]

hmm, what's the best recipe for Turbofuel?

[gusty temple]

Nah you're fine, nobody knows everything about every game

[versed mesa]

@gusty temple thanks for pointing that out to me ill try it now

[gusty temple]

turbo blend, but turning residue into it with turbo heavy fuel is fine too imo

[versed mesa]

Its learning with trial and error lol

[reef basin]

Depends what you personally prefer

[reef basin]

Why do you need a fluid buffer? 🤔

[final tendon]

Hii, is there an option to see the ressources we search but not all the ones showned by the radio tower please?

[coral glacier]

A fluid buffer is mainly used to prevent "swashing" which creates uneven flow rate.

[spice patio]

No, the manual scanner always shows the three closest node clusters.

[coral glacier]

[final tendon]

Thanks 🥲

[spice patio]

And usually makes it worse, not better.

[reef basin]

That's not really true. Sloshing is practically impossible to prevent

[coral glacier]

Welp, guess i was wrong ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[shy mulch]

pipe loops do a good job of preventing it, not 100% but good enough

[reef basin]

No, they do not prevent it. They make it not relevant

[hard ivy]

No, the map is fine. It's just the calculator that's horrible

[shy mulch]

Is there any practical difference?

[versed mesa]

To store fluid so I can create resin and then you can run a pipe from fluid buffer to pachaer to pack fluid but also canisters need to created and pushed to the pachagers at the same time to make it work

[shy mulch]

That doesn't explain why a buffer would be needed. Do all that without the buffer it will work exactly the same

[versed mesa]

Yes so true but I dont have canisters to creat packaged fuel

So now i need to work on producing canisters

Witch is can do

[shy mulch]

Why would having a buffer vs not having a buffer make any difference there?

[versed mesa]

I did not say it did

[shy mulch]

^ ?

[versed mesa]

I just need the fuel to go somewhere until I can make pachaged fuel

[shy mulch]

Oh, it's a temporary thing. Ok. Why not just leave the machines off for a few minutes while you build the rest of the factory?

[versed mesa]

Yes I can do that is no problem am just working around thing setting things up and figuring all out as I go

And some ain't as easy with things thats needed tobe done to actually get somewhere lol

Like this oil factory i could but on it for a week until its all set up or longer depends on me lol

[shy mulch]

What's the thing that is holding you back the most? Anything that can be helped with advice?

[versed mesa]

Tbh just tge selection with the refiners and then i have to do the extra stuff to make it work like at first I did not know this i thought I could just place the stuff in storage flush it some how ect

[shy mulch]

Aha fair enough. Best way to learn is to just jump in and try it and see

[misty path]

Hey guys! This is very generalist, and let me know if it's a no-go in the chat. But, I was thinking of starting a YouTube channel and attempting to complete my first playthrough (done a few dibs and dabbling here and there but haven't got far in the game just yet)... I was just wondering if a newbies perspective of the game is something that the community would be interested in watching?

[versed mesa]

But thanks to that person they said to use fluid buffer for storing fluid so thats helped with that thank you

[golden nexus]

At this point its been done a lot

[versed mesa]

Am trying to lmao

[misty path]

That was my fear indeed.

[shy mulch]

How engaging you are as a commentator is more important than the actual content, this is the reality of youtube/twitch etc these days

[reef basin]

Process the fluid instead

[golden nexus]

Its harder and harder to create content in that way for youtube without being extremely unique or have extremely unique ideas / solutions

[versed mesa]

What place in fluid buffer right ?

[misty path]

That makes sense! Ive wanted to do YT for a while, and currently find myself strapped for cash. Just trying to figure out a good baseline, I really enjoy this game, so was thinking it could be the perfect fit. But I know its a pretty saturated market right now

I appreciate the advice!

[versed mesa]

Because ive done this now with one stack onto of the other

[fluid sapphire]

YT isnt really a career path that starts quickly paying off, if at all

[reef basin]

Yeah, people thinking you can get rid of it will build all sorts of weird setups to try to get rid of it 🙂

[golden nexus]

A massive mistake new youtube creators make in some other games I have seen is to copy other people tutorials. Which often results in the "same old thing" being repeated thats a trap not to fall into. So you have a major benfifit if you are playing the game blind in this regard

[reef basin]

What? Just process the fluid, don't use a buffer

[misty path]

Nope, its a marathon not a sprint - but its also a way to be a bit less job dependant over many years. Especially with the way the world is going economy wise.

[tacit ocean]

just got power poles mk. 2 and i am absolutely NOT gonna rewire all of my factories from scratch. i'm getting anxiety just thinking about it

[versed mesa]

His best bet is live streaming on kick

[misty path]

Yeah it defo would be more story line esque and less tutorial load balancing mathy concepts haha

[versed mesa]

Process where ?

[reef basin]

Afaik there's no power line mk2

[shy mulch]

I understand that, fair point. I think there is an epidemic of people overcomplicating things. A looped pipe is very simple and effectively mitigates the issue, I don't understand why it's not a more popular solution

[reef basin]

In any machine that needs it

[cursive crane]

Its not mk 2 lines, just poles. You can just one click replace those. But only needed if you need more connections. Doesnt change anything else

[golden nexus]

You shuld also check out some compedators though... like your not going to catch them up 😛

[tacit ocean]

yeah you right i ment the power poles 🤦‍♂️

[shy mulch]

there's zero reason to replace any that you've already placed

[versed mesa]

But i cant put into coal gens can i ?

[tacit ocean]

yeah i just have powerline slop from

everything

[versed mesa]

@reef basin what else take this orange fuel ?

[reef basin]

fuel gens?

[cursive crane]

Everyone eventually reaches a point where they have to decide how best to expand, when that happens you'll either have to tear the factory down to better plan another, move elsewhere, or start a new save. Can worry about those then

Theres a cursed 4th option but you dont wanna hear about that

[versed mesa]

Ive only got one and that coal gen at the moment

[reef basin]

then get fuel gens 🙂

or don't make fuel

[tacit ocean]

yeah i was originally talking about retro-fitting everything to make use of the mk.2 to reduce my total number of poles

[versed mesa]

Lmfao

[versed mesa]

Its coming

[cursive crane]

Wall power is the way to go, ultimate hidden lines 😎

[tacit ocean]

now imma go find my nearest oil deposit 1700m and try to avoid the 2 giamt spider in my way

[versed mesa]

Let me make a trip to my hub and add plastic for tier task that that will make me closer to unlocking fuel gens

[tacit ocean]

yeah i need to make a factory building, everything is open air right now

[versed mesa]

Good luck lol

[fluid sapphire]

floor power 💪

[golden nexus]

you have everything spread out?

[tacit ocean]

uhhh kind of?

[versed mesa]

Thanks to you guys for your help I would not know what ill do but am sure i would of figured stuff out eventually lol

[tacit ocean]

its a mess imma finally post them to screenshots

[cursive crane]

Nudge lines into foundations and its practically wireless power

[fluid sapphire]

thats 95% of my power lines yeah xd #screenshots message

[tacit ocean]

wait how do i do that share thingy

[fluid sapphire]

copy message link

[tacit ocean]

#screenshots message its getting better, everything but that copper line was older work, its suppost to be a mega factory but i never really need so i just use it to make rotors

[golden nexus]

my last run.. everything built on floors one item per floor #screenshots message

[tacit ocean]

yeah thats beautiful

[golden nexus]

except for some buildings where you have one item built in the building / tower

Certian complex early gam eitems which are slow ot build get a building like renforced plate

[tacit ocean]

my mind cannot comprehend that. some of the other photos i coulnt find but those dont even show my abominable steel production

[golden nexus]

it came make things more simple #screenshots message

cramming things on a floor and even underclocking some machines can make things easy to keep track of #screenshots message

[tacit ocean]

yeah, i'm going for a dear god what do we have here look, just f'ing raw factories

[golden nexus]

you just need a decent cheese sauce to go on top 😛

[tacit ocean]

yess

i'm going for like the typical chaotic european city layout where it bob and weaves and somhow going through other stuff

i was wrong my second to last photo is steel and screw production

[fierce flicker]

im making to much iron......

[shy mulch]

no such thing as too much iron

[fierce flicker]

#screenshots message bro

[boreal musk]

why are you storing raw ores?

[fierce flicker]

cause if i dont then the smelter would get cloged cause im making to much

[boreal musk]

check the number, how much youre producing and how much each smelter consume

its easy math

[fierce flicker]

its smelts 2 a second and im making 1 per sek sooo...

[reef basin]

storing doesn't solve that

[shy mulch]

I make about that much every 10 seconds

[fierce flicker]

okay? i just started...?

[gusty temple]

It's the opposite then ?
In that case you need to lower your smelting

[shy mulch]

you said you have too much iron, I'm just explaining that you don't

[fierce flicker]

ik but i'm not mining atm

[gusty temple]

Ignore people who want to brag about how big their factories are :p

[gusty temple]

You're not using a miner ?

[fierce flicker]

sorry it takes 2 sec to smelt 1

[gusty temple]

Then build a second smelter ?

[fierce flicker]

atm no cause i have to much so im using what i have

[fierce flicker]

ugh fine🙄

[gusty temple]

lol

Splitter arrays for raw ore are the basis of 90% of factories

[terse flower]

@ember ridge dm

[ember ridge]

ok

[unkempt blade]

Yeah the only things people should brag about are how many factory carts they use or how large their train network is!

[sterile blade]

Or how much sushi they have

[leaden turret]

not something one should brag about 😛

[gusty temple]

Honestly once you start getting the good belts, making sushi that works and runs perfectly takes a lot of effort and math

I respect a good sushi belt, even if usually "good" is very subjective x)

[limpid cairn]

I have 16 train stations connected to a large sushi belt

(It’s like 5 sushi belts 😛)

[sterile blade]

This is clearly objectively good
#screenshots message

[fluid sapphire]

i finally figured out what drives up the max consumption of my grid by ~20GW

[gusty temple]

A sushi belt with screws
Sorcery

[sterile blade]

I'm guessing there's a lot of priority merging involved?

[limpid cairn]

Let me guess, you had a quantum encoder at 250%

[fluid sapphire]

i havent even finished phase 4, guess again 😄

[limpid cairn]

Sadly not

[sterile blade]

If you need to prove a point, it's best to do it in style (ie: with the "worst" possible items to sushi)

[limpid cairn]

I insta split the train freight onto 2 belts and stack them onto each other

so I have double the belt capacity

[shy mulch]

trains?

[fluid sapphire]

Not just trains, but all the associated stations and freight platforms, my aluminum factory alone has almost 160 platforms

At 50MW a piece it really adds up quick

[limpid cairn]

why do you need 160 platforms

[rustic hare]

cause yes

[fluid sapphire]

I import raw materials to make 4500 aluminum ingots without recycling any water, so I also import a bunch of ore to make other ingots with the left over water, and most trains have 8 cars and carry a single node worth of raw material, I do this to reduce traffic, and because having lots of trains is cooler than having fewer trains

[limpid cairn]

oh right

you were the guy that makes like 10k ingots of each ore no?

[fierce flicker]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1417471271960051824/image.png?ex=68ca9a7e&is=68c948fe&hm=7ec139f737109b8e08b71e12aa2a2e204485b27c7c44c6157d5cfd5d0dbe4d22& can someone explain wtf they want me to do?

it wont work

or will work for a sec

[fluid sapphire]

Idk, not quite, my waste water goes into 7k iron and 3k copper ingots

[hard ivy]

capacity too low probably

[fierce flicker]

idk what thoes that mean

[limpid cairn]

how many refineries do you have?

[hard ivy]

not enough generators

[fierce flicker]

thats only one generator tho... and it powers most of my machines

[hard ivy]

... and one isn't enough

[fierce flicker]

how do you know?

[gusty temple]

Keep the grey number higher than the blue number

[limpid cairn]

because the fuse blows

[gusty temple]

Up the grey number by building more generators

[fluid sapphire]

I think it was 50+190 total

[gusty temple]

That's the issue yes

[fluid sapphire]

So not that many really

[hard ivy]

100% or 250%?

[ivory ridge]

HELLO

[fluid sapphire]

All at 100%

[hard ivy]

not terrible then

[fluid sapphire]

Yeah, ironically enough, I tend to overclock when there are fewer machines involved, and I need to fit them into a smaller space, for something large scale I typically plan for the space and don't overclock

[fierce flicker]

tbh i got lost in the cables

[limpid cairn]

💀

[hard ivy]

fyi you can connect all machines to the same grid

[fierce flicker]

explain

[fluid sapphire]

Considering it's making all the aluminum I will probably need for the rest of my playthrough, it's not bad

[ivory ridge]

What is a factory and why is it satisfactory

[hard ivy]

just connect all machines all machines to the same power network. cause you said that generator powers most of your machines. which is not all. you can just use more generators connected together to power all of your machines

[gusty temple]

Just connect all your machines and all your generators to the same grid ? What's confusing

[fierce flicker]

the word grid and connect

[gusty temple]

A grid is a bunch of stuff connected together (via cables)
If you need help with the word "connect" I can't really help, that might be a task for google translate ?

[fierce flicker]

nah i understand what connect means just yk

[leaden turret]

brain no worky need coffee?

[fierce flicker]

yeah... kinda

[leaden turret]

there's a coffee machine in the hub

[gusty temple]

It's almost as loud as the one at my office, feels like home

[hard ivy]

welcome to 1.1's signal bugs. the general solution is to rebuild the affected signals and tracks over and over until it works

[limpid cairn]

i usually found out its always path signals for my cases

[gusty temple]

Don't think I ever saw a game where the trains weren't buggy x)

[hard ivy]

alternatively, moving the signals a few m away from the intersection helps sometime

[dense violet]

sometimes when placing the signals since the last update it's a bit fiddly, but trains are pretty solid other than that

[gusty temple]

They modified train signals in 1.1

It's the main thing in the update
How else ? lol

[limpid cairn]

i had no issues in factory lol

[gusty temple]

Sometimes before 2029

[dense violet]

just rebuild the signals a bit further back

[limpid cairn]

when 1.2 comes

[gusty temple]

More seriously, there isn't a DoA for every single bug fix, obviously, but it's likely in the next update yeah
The devs are aware

[dense violet]

oh?

:\ welp. Soz. I haven't messed around with trains since the update so can't really give any clues about that

[carmine aspen]

yea the signal system is really finicky for something youd expect to be a simple cut and dry mechanic

[limpid cairn]

maybe jason will do a guide on how to fix train signals

[versed mesa]

The Fuel Gen is huge

[leaden turret]

DynastyRogue27: "The Fuel Gen is huge"
@modest pawn: "hold my beer"

https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q="fuel plant" AND weatherwax

[versed mesa]

Where do yous think i should have my oil factory i thought having it on thus bit of grass land mite be fine but not sure if ill have room i could just extend it

[limpid cairn]

it looks huge when you first build it yeah

but its not that big really

[versed mesa]

Like you not see it yet that be its not finished i was wanting to share once finished

[versed mesa]

How come it looks huge to me

[dense violet]

pretty sure it's one of hte biggest buildings

[versed mesa]

It dont beat the space elevator lol

[dense violet]

hence 'one of' 😛

[versed mesa]

True lol

[dense violet]

if you don't include the space elevator I think the nuclear gen and fuel gens are the 2 biggest buildings

[versed mesa]

Seams I will need rethink with my factory

[dense violet]

hmm the well presuriser is pretty big too I guess

but you can only place a few of those