satisfactory

[lament niche]

Even Runesun called it phases when he still speedran the first phase

[hard ivy]

did you not even go to the speedrun.com site I sent?

[lament niche]

Bro I literally watch speedrunners speedrun the game.

[limpid cairn]

1/10 ragebait

[lament niche]

Not once have I heard them call it "packages"

[unkempt blade]

why do we care what some supposed speedrunner says if they aren't even good enough to cartmax?

[lament niche]

take your ragebait elsewhere

[hard ivy]

https://www.youtube.com/@EpiphaneSpeedruns/videos 🤷‍♂️

it's in every singe title except any%

[limpid cairn]

Why are people speed running satisfactory at all

[lament niche]

because they think its fun to do so

[limpid cairn]

How do they even do it in under 12 min when 1 milestone takes 15 min to complete

[unkempt blade]

I agree, it's so easy. They should be cartmaxing if they want it to seem impressive

[lament niche]

go watch a run, even an old run like one of Runesun's will show you

[hard ivy]

you can just watch the run lol

besides, you only need to unlock assemblers, which takes 6 mins (according to the wiki at least)

which you don't even need to wait for, because it's the only milestone you technically need

[lament niche]

what

did they change the speedrunning rules? You used to have to go through the onboarding

[hard ivy]

onboarding milestones are instant

[true mulch]

I thought speedruns skip onboarding

And yeah gathering crash site wreckage is insanely underrated even for regular gameplay

[cunning siren]

Oh wow, I never knew Hoverpack + Zipline + Power Tower = EZ mode

[true mulch]

I didn't make a single RIP

[mighty rivet]

is 600mw good enough for tier 3-oil

[unkempt blade]

it was already really helpful in earlier versions and disassembling the crashes made it lots better especially for early-ish game

[cunning siren]

With plast and rubber you'll make more power with oil gens too

[mighty rivet]

and should i wait until refineries to really start getting the iron, copper and caterium from the map (the pure recipe i think it is)

[unkempt blade]

the main tradeoff for those is increased power cost so you'll be able to use them a lot more comfortably when you're scaling power (usually somewhere in oil power for me)

[hard ivy]

you can't even get pure recipes before having refineries unlocked

[lament niche]

the pure recipe is amazing

[cunning siren]

Nah, don't wait on alts if that is the question. In fact it's a handy strategy to hoard them as they increase chances to offer the "good ones"

[mighty rivet]

well ill just smelt what i need and then when i get oil production ill go on a big smelting spree

[mighty rivet]

i have a bunch of hard drives sitting there in the tree so i can get the ones i want

[lament niche]

I regret to inform you my last hard drive was a choice between wet concrete and steamed sheets... I haven't even finished phase 2 on this save

[hard ivy]

these aren't pure though 🙃

[mighty rivet]

my past saves have helped me learn a bit about what to do and what not

[cunning siren]

❤️ wet concrete for aluminum build, screw fancy loops that can break 😆

[hard ivy]

you can build a loop that doesn't break

[cunning siren]

OR wet concrete and never have to deal with the issue at all 🤷

[unkempt blade]

or you can do concrete and feed the foundation beast!

[lament niche]

you shouldn't be able to get those OR pure without a refinery unlocked though

[atomic notch]

I just do wet concrete since i can just pull it into another production line

[hard ivy]

you shouldn't. but you can get those 2 at coal for some reason

[lament niche]

I can't wait for them to make the Cartographer mod native

[atomic notch]

Whats the cartographer mod

[hard ivy]

SCIM but in-game

[lament niche]

lets you see everything you've built on the ingame map

[atomic notch]

Damn i wish i could get mods

[hard ivy]

why can't you lol

[atomic notch]

Too hard to set up on linux ig im just lazy idk

[feral geyser]

You don't need Linux for mods

Just download SMM

[limpid cairn]

Docs.ficsit.app

[lament niche]

it's just download and install the satisfactory mod manager

[limpid cairn]

visit the website @atomic notch

Everything for mods is on there.

[velvet meteor]

how do you turn off the damn celebratory music in the hub? it was cute for like 5 minutes and now its driving me insane

[hard ivy]

#announcements

[cunning siren]

I kind of find map tools a bit cheaty AND this is my 6th playthrough so 🤷 I use SCIM sometimes for planning and to find geos. I feel dirty and I'm ok with that 😆

[atomic notch]

Not on linux lol

[velvet meteor]

thank you. i didn't realize it was a seasonal event thing

[hard ivy]

pretty sure you can still just donwload the linux build of the mod from the site and paste it into the mods folder?

[atomic notch]

Ill see if i can get it up when i get home been wanting to try that satisfactory+ mod

[lament niche]

It doesn't even do anything but show what you've built???

[cunning siren]

It can do a lot of stuff besides that. Edit save files ect...

[lament niche]

Also, I've been playing since U3, do NOT try to use /played against me, you will lose

That's SCIM, not Cartographer.

[cunning siren]

OH right, misunderstandings happend

I was mostly just yapping to yap was not trying to convince anybody of an opinion is "better than". I'm ok with others doing whatever the hell they want with cheats, was mostly talking about my relationship with it

[mighty rivet]

finally a stable 600mw took way too long as i hadnt automated anything 🤦‍♂️

wheres the channel for megafactory ideas

[cunning siren]

Geothermals can be super easy power, I sometimes spend coupons to buy parts to build them if I don't have them yet 😆 cuz yea I'm that lazy

[hard ivy]

"600 MW" and "megafactory ideas"... sure...

[mighty rivet]

no just like in the future as if i ever get that far id rather have ideas in the back of my head as im building a few constructors

[heavy anvil]

once the factory gets big enough i stop keeping track of MW and just add 2 nuclear reactors if the fuse blows

[cunning siren]

It's better to focus on unlocking MAM stuff and build a good "mall" ASAP with early setups. Often "early megabase" plans change many many times, over time so not very helpful sometimes 🤷 better to focus on what you are doing right now and "megabase" later

[lament niche]

given that cartographer literally isn't a cheat mod, idfk why you were yapping about cheats

[cunning siren]

I agree the term "cheat" is not very helpful as it's a game so it's whatever you want it to be 🤷

[limpid cairn]

NEVER USE GEOTHERMAL POWER

[lament niche]

...it's still not a cheat mod, it just displays what you've already built ingame on your ingame map

[cosmic junco]

🤔 why? thats terrible advice

[lament niche]

it doesn't give any kind of cheat value what so ever

[cosmic junco]

geothermal is litterally completely free power lol

[hard ivy]

I mean I wouldn't bother with goethermal but I definitely wouldn't tell anyone not to use it

[small notch]

deos the water tower thing you can do work with any fluid im assuming it does

[limpid cairn]

It fluctuates you’re power system and fluctuating power grid is usually a warning that your power plant isn’t working properly and you should take a look

[hard ivy]

any liquid, not fluid. it's kinda useless with gasses

[limpid cairn]

The only real good thing about it is charging batteries off grid or powering crash sites

[small notch]

alr thanks

[cosmic junco]

that's not what it means at all

fluctuations from a problem and fluctuations from geothermal look really different

i have a separate grid with just geothermal (i normally link it to the main grid with a switch) that powers the production of my rocket fuel factory, that way if my grid ever catastrophically fails, it's extremely easy to "cold start"

[west verge]

What’s wrong with power fluctuations just base it off the minimum

[cosmic junco]

because i can separate the main and "critical" grids

[hard ivy]

They're ugly

[tender quarry]

you can use batteries to balance out the highs and lows of geothermal too

[small notch]

i wouldnt use geothermal personally either i like to know what amount of power i have not a range of what power i have

[west verge]

Well, that’s fair

[white dawn]

With some trial and error you could hook up the gens in pairs, in exactly opposite phases, so you end up with a straight line. :)

[small notch]

not saying you shouldnt use them either its js my opinion

[hard ivy]

plus it's only like 7 GW. I can't be bothered to run powerlines around the map for 7 GW

[small notch]

very true

[west verge]

I haven’t even unlocked geothermal tbh idk why I’m in this discussion

[plain gate]

if your power grid is dependent on a fluctuation of 10 something GW youve done something terribly wrong

use it as a backup for your nuclear plant or smth

[small notch]

i just personally dont like fluctuations

[white dawn]

Yeah, even with the 1.0 buffs, Geothermal still generally doesn't feel "worth it" to me, at least if you unlock it around its "intended" phase of the game

[plain gate]

welcome to tier 8 and 9 machines 😛

[white dawn]

If you go crash-site scavenging and unlock 'em early, though, they could be quite nice. I've yet to try doing that myself

[plain gate]

i mean its js a gimmick power source nobody actually really uses on its own

[white dawn]

I occasionally think it would be fun to connect all the geothermal gens underground and use them for totally-separate rail+hypertube power network

[plain gate]

place and you get power, easy, cant give it too much

or else its just op

[white dawn]

Oh, people definitely do use it

I've seen plenty of folks doing the crash-site scavenging thing to get 'em "early" for instance

[feral geyser]

"on its own"

[hard ivy]

I used it to power 1 miner in my 1.0 run lol

[white dawn]

Yes, see above. People definitely do. :)

Pretty much whenever you say "nobody does X" in this game you'll find someone who's been happily doing X. :)

(I agree that it's uncommon for folks to put many eggs in the geothermal basket, but it does happen)

[unkempt blade]

all of the eggs! you've got to commit to the gimmick!

[glad drum]

This is why I build my Steel Cyclone around a geyser - to remind myself of the pure, raw, natural power of geothermal

[frank anvil]

"kłade chuja na to" translate if u want

[lament niche]

internally screaming in Americana

[lament niche]

it got buffs?

[cunning siren]

🤔 to each their own 🤷 I use power towers with zip line to explore and gather the phat lootz though anyway so 🤷

[unkempt blade]

once I unlock geothermal I usually just make sure I have resources for a few of them whenever I go drive hunting and fill it in over time

they're nice as failproof power if you keep them on their own circuit to make sure stuff like fuel refineries can't go offline if you overconsume on the main network

[white dawn]

Well, the map got more geysers than there were pre-1.0, anyway, so there's more total geothermal power available on the map. Individual gens weren't changed

[deep pier]

does the undeaneath of the isolated island that's south of starting area with a pure coal node have somthing under it or is it edge of map?

[white dawn]

Nah, nothing actually interesting over there

[cunning siren]

I guess my travel style changes as new tech becomes available 🤔 once I get jet fuel I'll probably no longer use hoverpack zipline powertower

[white dawn]

Though if you feel like taking the time to get material over there, it could be a scenic spot for a factory

[deep pier]

I was asking less about mattriel and more about exploring since the map like has the fog thing but I am scared of going down but it just killing me and wiping my inv

[white dawn]

Right. As I say, nothing actually interesting except scenery. :)

(Also: if you didn't know, you can change your game settings to keep all inventory on death, if you want. No more chasing down death crates!)

[west verge]

Does that mess with achievements?

[glad drum]

This 100 times yes. You can go out explore, and when you're done, just hit ESC and his "Respawn" and bam, you're back with no penalty.

Well, I guess your "Days without incident" counter is reset, which is sort of a penalty

[limpid cairn]

If you have a higher "days without incident" counter than 0 you’re doing something wrong

[deep pier]

man I would rather die 1000 times across the map with no blade runner befor thinking about doing that

[limpid cairn]

While we talk about death in game, don’t throw nukes or nobelisks on huge spiders, speaking from experience they like to suicide into you

[white dawn]

The only thing that disables achievements is enabling Advanced Game Settings, btw. Anything in the main settings menus are fair game. (Even mods don't disable achievements)

[cunning siren]

Death penalties can be challenging, really changes the "risk" of a situation as the "loss" of a death means more 🤷 to each their own

Some folk play "hardcore" mode: 1 death = GG

[white dawn]

Yeah, there's something to be said for retaining some tension in the game

[glad drum]

Personally, the game deaths aren't part of the challenge of the game. The combat is relatively dull and progress takes so long that all the setbacks from deaths just grinds the factory in my brain to a halt

[white dawn]

Especially on your first runthrough, it's nice for things to feel a bit dangerous while exploring. There's no other real pressure in the game once you're past Phase 1, after all

But yeah, that stuff's not intended to be the primary loop, hence the main-menu options to mitigate all of it. :)

[hollow halo]

Welp- I’m sick and going home from school, should I play satisfactory when I get back?

[glad drum]

Yes - but no, go to bed and rest, sicko

[white dawn]

Should probably get some sleep instead. :)

[limpid cairn]

Speaking from experience the sickness will get worse if you play

[glad drum]

Lay in bed and imagine your factories - that's how I fall asleep at night

[hollow halo]

Literally how 😔🙏

[limpid cairn]

Maybe youre sick of playing Roblox for 108 hours

[hollow halo]

I SWEAR I CLOSED IT

[limpid cairn]

Because math is making the brain work and that isn’t good when you’re sick

[glad drum]

"Ah... the caterium and copper will wrap around near the refineries to make quickwire... then I can use that for my circuit boards and AI limiters... yes..."

[hollow halo]

Imagine thinking about math (I go braindead playing that game, I just like making pretty things)

[white dawn]

Body needs energy to fight off whatever's ailin' ya, and your brain is one of the most energy-intensive parts of your body. Stuff like games is gonna take away resources your body could be using elsewhere

[glad drum]

Your 108 hour currently game session of Roblox confirms this

[limpid cairn]

math isn’t for everyone I agree

[glad drum]

I didn't see this, you right

[limpid cairn]

guys, what if she is playing Roblox satisfactory?

[hollow halo]

Now I need to see if that’s a thing…

[limpid cairn]

There’s a pretty similar game

[hollow halo]

It’s a thing

[limpid cairn]

Industrialist is the name

[hollow halo]

Yeah I just saw it lol

[limpid cairn]

Check if there’s multiplayer lol

[west verge]

That is AWESOME I am turning on keep inventory next time I play thank god😭 I hate dying so much I usually reload my last auto save instead LOL

[hollow halo]

Says that people should play with friends so.. I think so

20 player server size

[woeful gale]

what the best fuel for drone for mass produce, is that uranium fuel rod?

[glad drum]

What do you mean by "best"

[limpid cairn]

How does it have more space than the base game 😭

[limpid cairn]

Speed

[hollow halo]

Magic

[limpid cairn]

Ionized fuel is the best for drones.

[white dawn]

As with anything in the game, there's no "best" unless you choose exactly what you mean by that (and if you pick a different metric, something else would be "best")

[hard ivy]

Rocket fuel, ionized fuel or plutonium rods probably

[white dawn]

If you want numbers, though, the wiki is where to go for those kinds of questions

!wikisearch drone

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=drone

[white dawn]

^ Compare fuel types yourself, balance versus effort-to-produce, and choose whatever you like. :)

[hollow halo]

I’m still super tempted to make a new save…

[glad drum]

Packaged Ionized Fuel - same speed as plutonium but not as ridiculous

[west verge]

Do it

[shy mulch]

Personally I like rocket fuel in my drones, for me it's the best compromise between complexity to return

[limpid cairn]

Don’t

[hollow halo]

I’m not pulling a terraria dw

I just… need to figure out how to store shit correctly…

[west verge]

Usually in containers

[limpid cairn]

the only way to store stuff is sinking it

[hollow halo]

Yeah but I don’t use containers

I just grab and go

[west verge]

How are you storing anything…

[hollow halo]

That’s the thing…

[west verge]

😭😭😭 bro

[hollow halo]

:3

[west verge]

Use dimensional depot then

[coral glacier]

You're more insane than me

[limpid cairn]

@hollow halo start placing containers between belts

[hollow halo]

Yeah I wasn’t the one who made that and I have nothing to make it with…

[hard ivy]

Never place a container in the middle of a belt wtf

[shy mulch]

Something really weird. Last night I cleared out the caterium cave, and I load my last save today and the little collectible piles are all back. It's like the save was from 30 mins before I actually saved it. The last 3 autosaves match up with the time of the save I loaded. HMmm

[heavy anvil]

they hold approximately 2 ounces of rocket fuel in their mouth for their jetpack at all times

[west verge]

I didn’t say you made it???😭😭😭 are you okay

[hollow halo]

All my belts are hidden from view 😔🙏

[hollow halo]

Nope :D

[limpid cairn]

Why not? It worked in factorio and it’ll work most definitely in satisfactory too

[west verge]

It doesn’t affect the speed of anything it’s not a terrible idea

[hollow halo]

Nah, I’ll prob just go below my factory and make it there

[hard ivy]

Put a chest in the middle of a belt and good Factorio players will roast you for it

[hollow halo]

BUT, my dumbass wants to remark my factory again…

Just like… up in the air this time..

[woeful gale]

plu kinda hard cuz its need nuclear setup which is logicstic nightmare

[heavy anvil]

do yall think industrial storage containers ar worth it tho? bc i feel like its cheaper to just stack 2 regular containers and conect them

[limpid cairn]

I never played with good factorio players so I couldn’t know, also do you know why they do that?

[hollow halo]

Can store double of anything

I think it’s worth it tbh..

[hard ivy]

It's literally faster to build an ISC. And the building materials are basically free

[limpid cairn]

2 regular Stacked containers don’t have 2 outputs and 2 inputs that are useable

fuck I can’t bend the sentence right to make sense

[hard ivy]

Rather than putting a chest in the middle of a belt, putting it off to the side is much better. And even then, some people consider it bad practice because the chest filling up can starve downstream production.

Same in satisfactory. You always put overflow into the container. Or build a dedicated production to fill it. Never in the middle of production, never with a higher priority than other production

[sharp bison]

I'm on break right now from work, and all I want to do is grow my factory. Is this a problem?

[glad drum]

Nah, seems about par for the course for Satisfactory players. All I can think about is how many kilometers of conveyors i'll build tonight

[sharp bison]

Ill take back what I said, and in fact I dont want my factory to grow right now. I want to tear things down and make them better

Then grow, then repeat

[shy mulch]

2069, -224
cave entrance not marked on SCIM....

[limpid cairn]

I think you should post that on the scim discord

[shy mulch]

I'm not on there

Check it out, if you agree with me then feel free to post it

[glad drum]

That's fair - I tend not to love the first phase of the game because it feels so temporary - just wanna tear it all down and start new spaghetti, fresh pasta

[limpid cairn]

WHO even loves the first tiers

90% of the time I’m just sitting in my hub and crafting items while watching anime’s

[white dawn]

I still wish SCIM was properly opensource. Would be nice to be able to just fix stuff like missing cave entrances and submit a PR. c'est la vie

WIll suck if satisfactory-calculator ever goes down; no reasonable alternatives out there that I'm aware of

[limpid cairn]

I agree, i wish more softwares were open sourced that aren’t from small / big companies

[heavy anvil]

i didnt know there was a calulator i just did it by hand

[limpid cairn]

Greenys website

[white dawn]

Caves layer doesn't even seem to be on the public github, even if you were willing to contribute to effectively-closed-source software

[white dawn]

Greeny isn't related to satisfactory-calculator. (And technically sftools's actual solver isn't properly opensource either. But at least we have plenty of alternate solvers/caluclators out there)

[quaint shore]

is this game worth it

[white dawn]

(Well, actually that's probably overstating it; no actual requirement for the code to be online to be "properly opensource," and greeny's expressed willingness to share that source to whoever wants it. :)

[limpid cairn]

Depends

[white dawn]

You're asking a room full of people who decided they liked the game so much they wanted to keep talking about it even when they weren't playing it if they think the game is worth it? (So yeah, obviously "no." :)

[limpid cairn]

You don’t get money from it which is technically a money loss

But you get enjoyment

[sterile blade]

"Dogshit game"
[Some dev]

[limpid cairn]

I wonder if the devs play the game when they don’t work on it

[quaint shore]

so what i’m hearing is it gives me enjoyment but it’s dogshit?

[sterile blade]

Addicting Dogshit. The worst kind possible

[quaint shore]

i’m sold 🤷🏻‍♂️

[white dawn]

I don't think many play it recreationally after having been there for awhile. You don't want your work life bleeding into your personal life

[sterile blade]

The 2 hours for refund are gonna fly by~

[heavy anvil]

do the math on how much it costs vs how long youll likely play it for and decide if youd play it at that hourly rate

[white dawn]

I know Snutt talked about it just feeling way too much like work when he tried playing recreationally, after N years of working for CSS

[limpid cairn]

sounds like the devs don’t want to be a part of ficsit

[quaint shore]

meh what is money yk?

[sterile blade]

Material freedom? 🤔

[white dawn]

Yeah, the current refund policies for videogames in general don't really take games like this into account. There's no way you're gonna get a feel for the actual primary gameplay loop after a mere two hours

Still, better than nothing, I suppose

[sterile blade]

Given how gameplay stats are easy to collect, they could do something like ~1/20 of the average time to finish the game

[limpid cairn]

Now the question is, will the average time be 100 hours or 1000 hours 🤔

[cursive phoenix]

when do you unlock the splitter?

[limpid cairn]

Logistics mk1 iirc

[heavy anvil]

i think logi mk 1

[quaint shore]

never 😁

[white dawn]

It's tough too because with Satisfactory you don't really get into the meat of the game until you've got your coal power up (IMO, anyway)

So you could say "CSS should really make a demo" or whatever, but do you unlock stuff all the way to Tier 3 then? That seems like a lot.

(I mean, also CSS have said they just don't really want to take the time to do a demo anyway, so it's hypothetical in the extreme)

[cursive phoenix]

fml

[lament niche]

why not simplify the tiers in the demo, remove extra fluff. Maybe use the U2 or even the U1 build, but with fixes added and fluff removed?

[reef basin]

that's still tons of work for "little" value

[white dawn]

Yeah

[lament niche]

U2 and U1 builds have been around for years, and odds are all of the bugs from U1 and U2 have been fixed at this point

[reef basin]

it's not really possible to port bugfixes back into U2 build easily

[lament niche]

It's just a matter of disabling some items and modifying a couple recipes, really

[reef basin]

that's very big understatement of amount of work needed to be done 🤔

[lament niche]

not really imo. Just use the last U2 build

[reef basin]

but that has tons of bugs and mechanics that no longer are the same

[white dawn]

I mean, it would be ridiculous to release a demo that's from an ancient pre-early-access version of the game

[lament niche]

Okay and? you wanted an easy to make demo, not a perfect demo

[reef basin]

I didn't want a demo

[white dawn]

If you're doing a demo, you want it to be as polished as the released game, including bugfixes and stuff (and, ideally, kept up-to-date with game releases)

[cursive phoenix]

guys how do i keep the biomass power running cause im running out of bushes

[white dawn]

But, again, it's really not even worth talking about much, since CSS said they weren't interested in making one anyway. :)

[heavy anvil]

just keep looking and try caves for mycelia

[lament niche]

No, you don't update a demo. That incentivises people to just... not buy the game at all

[white dawn]

I promise you there are more bushes+trees in the world than you can ever use. You can also make enemy mob remains into a lot of biomass

[limpid cairn]

Sounds like work for an internship dude

[white dawn]

That or just try to rush through to Phase 2, where you get fully-automated power

[glad drum]

Turn the wood and leaves into biomass (and eventually solid biofuel) - they'll last longer than bushes --- but, h, basically, you just run out and cry

[white dawn]

I don't agree with that logic, but okay. :)

[glad drum]

Isn't the demo the onboarding process at the start of the game? Tutorial, demo, whatever

[reef basin]

well you don't update it with new features and added content. You update it with bugfixes and stuff like that, which are on par with main branch. But that usually means you have to have the whole build process and codebase prepared for the demo. Factorio did that basically from start and mentioned several times how demanding it is to keep the demo around

[lament niche]

Why buy the game if you're going to get the exact same updates for free!

[reef basin]

by "demo" we mean "free version of the game with limited content to try"

[deep pier]

best way to connect 2 rails that are right next to eachother?

[lament niche]

yes

[white dawn]

I'd brought it up primarily just because of how Steam+EGS refund windows really don't serve a game like Satisfactory well. IMO you would totally not get a proper "feel" for the game in a mere two hours. But I was then opining that even releasing a demo is a difficult proposition, 'cause you'd sort of have to allow players to get into coal power, which would be a huge chunk of game.

[reef basin]

you're not getting content updates, you're getting bugfixes

[glad drum]

hmmm

[lament niche]

Apoc said updated with the full game.

[white dawn]

But it turns out I should've just not brought up demos at all, 'cause this has turned into Derailment City™. Gotta get some block signals on this conversation!

[reef basin]

I assume that means "if main game gets bugfixes/polish, demo gets it too"

[white dawn]

What I meant was that, for instance, when v1.2 gets released, the demo is also released with whatever bugfixes + such were a part of v1.2. It'd still be content-restricted

[lament niche]

how is discussing demo potential for sabiscracktory derailment city

[glad drum]

yeah, in fact, I feel like a demo would start out with a full on factory already built up to coal power, then have their first tasks be to collect stuff for the biomass, connect a few conveyors, build a small factory for uh... idk, rotors or something, then have the power switch flip UH OH and now you need to take what you have and finish off the demo with a coal generator being built

edit: that way the player gets to see what a factory is like, experience the exploration, building, and power generation

[white dawn]

'cause CSS have already said they're not going to make one. :)

So it's a little pointless. I shouldn't've brought it up in the first place. :)

[lament niche]

that's not derailment city

we're still discussing the topic YOU brought up.

[white dawn]

Eh, that's a bad introduction to the game too, though, 'cause you're throwing way too much at players at once. IMO the onboarding + intro sections of the game do a great job of guiding the player in

[heavy anvil]

i think a free weekend would work better than a demo; nobody brand new to the game is going to beat in that time, but it lets them build and maybe reach tier 2 and if they really were eager to get that fix they would buy it monday or later

[white dawn]

Right, and I shouldn't've brought it up is my point. :) I accept full responsibility for this derailment! So I'm gonna just shut up about it.... now. :)

[cunning siren]

Building drone bays on the same elevation as their target probably saves a small and insignificant amount of travel time that I will totally obsess over now 🤔

[white dawn]

(Okay I was gonna shut up, but I did also forget that "free weekend" things exist nowadays. That does sound like a pretty great fit for this game! Okay, shutting up for real.)

[lament niche]

ye free weekends just solve the whole time

[reef basin]

I feel like reasonable demo would end around production of modular frames and automating coal power. But I agree that it should probably have some sped-up start so that 90% of the demo isn't just biomass power, because that's not really representative of what the game is like

[cursive phoenix]

yeahhh

when do i unlock coal as a fuel source?

[lament niche]

Could also just make it so the client stops working after x amount of hours

[heavy anvil]

i think phase 2

[lament niche]

phase 2, on tier 3

[reef basin]

technically you never unlock items directly, but relevant things (coal powered generator and first road vehicle) are unlocked in T3

[tired temple]

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[reef basin]

sales aren't announced in advance (logically 😉 )

[reef basin]

and as for "worth", if your friend is fan of factory games, it's very much worth the money

[tired temple]

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[lament niche]

Hard drives
Maam
coal itself is unlocked in onboarding, you just can't do anything useful with it till tier 3

[lament niche]

october or christmas will likely be the next sale

[glad drum]

Yeah but what else are you gonna do? If one wants to create a demo of the game, the purpose of the demo is to show and show off what you do in the game in under 2 hours. What are the best things to do in those 2 hours? Gotta just kinda railroad them

Skip the manual crafting, make it easy to get into and focus on the core gameplay loop (also don't go past phase 2 cause oil and beyond is rough for newbies)

[reef basin]

I meant that nothing in the game unlocks items directly. It's always either a recipe, or scanner addition, or something like that.

you can very much go to coal node and mine coal directly after start of the game. But yeah, you can't really make use of it (which is what I mentioned in my first message - things to reasonably use coal are unlocked in T3, coal itself is never "unlocked" technically)

[cunning siren]

Maximise the gamba in the demo... get em hooked! 😆

[tired temple]

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[lament niche]

once again: Maam, and Hard Drives.

[reef basin]

what's with those? 🤔

[lament niche]

and yes, unlocking a recipe is unlocking the item.

[carmine aspen]

holy crud you can make alot of aluminum quickly

[cunning siren]

I would not say "quickly" but yes

[carmine aspen]

with what i have set up i have enough to fill up 2 train cars with just ten refineries

[cunning siren]

Noice

[carmine aspen]

and the miner im using is over a pure node while being over clocked so i can have even more being made

[fierce flicker]

how do i get copper?

[limpid cairn]

Are you making ingots or already sheets she casings

[proper hound]

In practice, the mechanics here are "was supposed to spend 2h trying it out, why does the clock say 8h played?"

[glad drum]

Walk up to a node, look at it and hit E

[cunning siren]

I made a 720 sheet aul build last night, was the first time in ~1 year so, was kind of rusty 😆

[limpid cairn]

Press v and scan for copper nodes

[fierce flicker]

what if there arent any?

[late tartan]

What are fluid tanks even useful for? Most of the time when im dealing with fluids, Production = or > consumption so i dont see a use for it.

[limpid cairn]

There’s always copper around

[true mulch]

there's one handmade map, which does have copper nodes

[limpid cairn]

Buffer for trains

[fierce flicker]

i only have iron around

[carmine aspen]

im making the ingots at the refineries so i can distribute them to oter parts of the world when the time comes, rn im using train to deliver the ingots to my home base to be turned to the said items you mentioned

[cunning siren]

Here ya go: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/images/Pipeline_Manual.pdf

[true mulch]

buffering freight platforms and potentially prefilling

[west verge]

Random curiosity question - do we know what’s coming next for new content/big update

[limpid cairn]

weird, usually theres copper and iron everywhere

[limpid cairn]

Factory cart fluids transportation

[white dawn]

Not yet, no. The only info we have is that there will be a v1.2 at some point. :)

[fierce flicker]

only iron for me i found an some sort of ore but i have to travel 900m to see what it is

[white dawn]

(Just mentioned offhand near the start of the anniversary-update video at #announcements message , though the way Mikael phrased it made it sound like they thought they'd confirmed it in the previous video. IMO the previous one was ambiguous on the topic, though. :)

[versed mesa]

👋

[void cliff]

I kind of want to road map a typical playthrough progression. I can certainly spend way too much time on stuff that becomes obsolete by the next phase.

[true mulch]

avoid planning for the future

build factories that make parts for immediate use and nothing else

[carmine aspen]

i kinda wish you can see structures on the map as some sort of toggle

[white dawn]

There's a mod called "Cartographer" (or something like that) which can do that for you, btw

[limpid cairn]

Well go and explore the world and see what ore it is
Spoiler : ||its probably limestone||

[fierce flicker]

nah i cant only way to get there is by running around a weird gassy plant and a weird cat

[upper gale]

It shouldn't become too obsolete, I think. It's producing something after all, maybe build in a way where it can be easily upgraded later and serve another purpose or just make more of what it's currently making

[cunning siren]

Decoupled Camera mode is pretty handy to plan building stuff 🤔 Did not see this feature before

[feral geyser]

I think it's newer, I dont think it was in 1.0

[feral geyser]

Also showing off builds when they're done

[glad drum]

I think the only thing that becomes obsolete is maybe like... older ways of producing power - everything should move forward as needed

but even power is just less efficient or not producing enough power, not necessarily obsolete

[cunning siren]

If only this were a build feature and not just to take pretty pictures 😭

[feral geyser]

Huh?

[cunning siren]

When in that camera mode build features are disabled

[feral geyser]

Yes, cuz you are a camera

[cunning siren]

Would be better if not that

[feral geyser]

You can fly around and build

It's called Hoverpack

You have to unlock it

[cunning siren]

And if don't have that yet?

[feral geyser]

Git gud, scrub

[cunning siren]

Would be handy

[feral geyser]

(Teasing)

[heavy anvil]

use a regular jetpack

[white dawn]

Some folks enjoy building while using jetpack (personally I don't like jetpack for building, but others do)

[glad drum]

I do sometimes wish the jetpack had a hover mode

[void cliff]

Once you unlock all the hard drives for a phase, you can force undesirable recipes on the same hard drive scan (I.e charcoal and biocoal) by selecting their alternate choice, returning them to the pool and then scanning a new hard drive

[cunning siren]

Building stuff without any "movement buffs" is very rough IMO and something like decoupled camera for building would fix that 🤷

[desert bridge]

so ballistic warp drives give alot of points...

i tossed the extra i had in and im at 110 now lmao

[glad drum]

I think that's what the Lookout Tower is for in the early game

[feral geyser]

So does hoverpack

You just have to unlock it first

[cunning siren]

Yea, i use the tower

[glad drum]

I just build giant ladders or conveyor tornadoes

[cunning siren]

Ladders are nice too

[heavy anvil]

floating foundations can also work

[white dawn]

There's always AGS > Fly Mode. :)

[glad drum]

That's true! I don't have foundations unlocked, but for those that do, it's a great tool

[feral geyser]

you what

[upper gale]

Parachute extends your interact range (for some reason)

[cunning siren]

Yea, that feels kind of cheaty though

[heavy anvil]

are foundations not default?

[white dawn]

Not much of a niche for the hoverpack then, eh? :)

[deep pier]

pls can anyone help me?

[glad drum]

True that, would cause some redundancies - but it would add EVEN MORE value for the liquid biofuel 😉

[white dawn]

Cheating's in the eye of the beholder, in a singleplayer game. :P

[heavy anvil]

you only cheat yourself

[cunning siren]

Yea having to spam space bar gets old

[heavy anvil]

with what

[feral geyser]

Bruh

[glad drum]

Maybe once I beat the game I'll unlock foundations - but I doubt it...

[feral geyser]

The hoverpack is right there

[white dawn]

The change I'd actually think would be neat would be if the hoverpack could optionally consume Batteries while outside the range of powered equipment

[feral geyser]

Just do the milestones and get it

[white dawn]

Would give Batteries back a dedicated niche, and solve some folks' complaints about its range

[deep pier]

there is 2 rail ways right next to eachother and I want to know the best way to connect them

[white dawn]

(Personally I think the hoverpack's range is already quite good, but I still wouldn't say no to battery-powered hoverpack)

[heavy anvil]

would also be great if you could toggle the hoverpacks controls into the jetpacks for when your using it for mobility

[glad drum]

Imagine giving batteries a use in 1.0 haha that's so funny

[glad drum]

Don't make my liquid biofuel obsolete 😢

[heavy anvil]

2 rail switches near each other to swap between the 2

[cunning siren]

It's pretty clear the "movement upgrades" are not perfect and as you "upgrade" they become more perfect

[deep pier]

#screenshots I want to connect them to eachother and I tried ton of stuff but it just keeps saying the too sharp of a turn, I want to know the best way to connect them

[white dawn]

I did fuel about half my drones with Batteries anyway on my 1.0 save, 'cause it was slightly more convenient at the time than spinning up rocket fuel for 'em

[upper gale]

I don't mind the range but the instant falling after exiting range is what kills it for me, wish it lasted a few more seconds so you can know to get back in range

[white dawn]

Would've needed to spin up more Aluminum anyway to package the RF (and then get those tanks down to where the RF was being produced), and there was spare sulfur right near where my next Aluminum plant was gonna be, so I just went ahead and did that. :D

[white dawn]

Eh, it's an awfully slow descent if you "jump" after a power loss, and you still have some air control. Can usually get back in range quite quickly

[glad drum]

Can you map a keybind to equip jetpack? In order to easily switch to jetpack if you're away from your power grid?

[white dawn]

Not exactly, no (or at least not in vanilla)

[cursive phoenix]

how do i remove stuff like rocks and trees.?

[heavy anvil]

nobelisks and chainsaw

[white dawn]

When you open your inventory you get that top bar which shows you things you can equip -- those can actually be hot-swapped using your number keys

The main problem there is that that list is dynamically generated based off of your inventory state, so you can't really develop muscle memory for a specific thing like a jetpack swap

And depending on the state of your inventory, the thing you want to swap to might not even be in that top list

[deep pier]

what's a rail switch?

[white dawn]

In the end I just got used to shift-clicking from inventory instead, which is slightly more fraught but at least it's the same procedure wherever it happens to be living in your inventory

[heavy anvil]

the things you use to redirect a train onto a diffrent track

[cursive phoenix]

how do i get those

[glad drum]

But if you did keep your inventory to always have the jetpack as the same thing you COULD do it right?

Either way, nice to know there's SOMETHING

[deep pier]

can't find it

[heavy anvil]

the nobelisks are unlocked in the M.A.M. by researching sulphur and the chain saw is in a mile stone

[white dawn]

Yeah, if you don't habitually sort, or do some manual switching-around after a sort, then it should be doable. :)

[heavy anvil]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Railroad_Switch_Control

[cursive phoenix]

MAM?

[opaque galleon]

does it matter if my coal power plant is not really close to my builds?

[white dawn]

There's a building called the MAM. It's possible you haven't unlocked it yet? Once you do: build one, and check it often for anything you can research. It's one of the most useful buildings in the game

[upper gale]

It gets built automatically

[white dawn]

Apart from that, some advice: ignore this Discord, ignore Youtube. Just keep playing the game at your own pace and learning stuff as you go

[glad drum]

Not really, no - just run a power wire back to your builds

[white dawn]

Discord+Youtube can easily "spoil" a lot of the game for you, and IMO it's a lot more fun to play it through the first time on your own

[deep pier]

BRUH then how is it suppose to help me connect them?

[upper gale]

You just need to connect the rails normally

[deep pier]

it says the turn is too sharp and I been asking what's the best way to combat that

[heavy anvil]

space your rails a bit more

[upper gale]

Oh, just more space

[white dawn]

Stop making your turns so sharp.

[deep pier]

I swear I was forced to

[upper gale]

Could make a circle somewhere and connect it to that

[glad drum]

If your left turn is too sharp, make a right turn... then another right turn... then another right turn... and you'll be going left!

[west verge]

Agree (kind of) I am learning MOST everything on my own, but the minor spoilers make it fun for me haha. Do I have any idea what all goes into turbo fuel/rocket fuel? At this point no, not even a clue what resources or what but it makes me excited to keep unlocking things (I just unlocked oil processing yesterday after spending 7 hours making a new factory in the south)

[deep pier]

ye sorry kind of hard to follow how do I do that exactly?

[white dawn]

Yeah, I suppose I didn't mean "spoiler" in the traditional sense... More just, you don't know how to do X so you ask about it in Discord, and someone gives you the answer, and you no longer get the experience of figuring out how to do X yourself. Just knowing that there's a thing called "rocket fuel' is a different kind of spoiler altogether. :D

[glad drum]

lemme boot up ms paint to give you a diagram

[white dawn]

(Though of course folks play games in all sorts of ways! Someone might have more fun if they just have a guide saying exactly how to do stuff. So what I said is just a personal recommendation anyway. :P)

[deep pier]

that would be great thanks

[west verge]

Yeah exactly! I agree, it makes it fun for me knowing what to look forward to if that makes sense

[tidal flame]

You guys what satisfactory youtube series should i watch (new series)

[glad drum]

#screenshots message --- hope this helps

black is where you're coming from and going to, red is your new rail to connect the two

[deep pier]

that does make it easier to understand but do you know how to connect them if they are right next to eachother?

[glad drum]

Hmmm if moving one of them isn't an option, I'd just make it go wildly out of the way to make it work

[cursive phoenix]

• opens satisfactory * suddenly 10 hours have passed

[upper gale]

"When a Factorio Player Touches Satisfactory" by PsYche897 although there's only two parts to it currently but I've been enjoying it

[glad drum]

#screenshots message kinda like this - I wanted one of my conveyors to go a certain way, but it was a bad angle so I just made it go up and around the other way

edit: dont mind the red and blue stuff, that was explaining the portals

[deep pier]

this mf playing rollercoaster tycoon with his conveyers

[upper gale]

That's just pure art

[deep pier]

I just decided to rebuild the whole thing but now how far apart would you make them if you were working with 8 foundations wide area

[glad drum]

Probably as far away as possible to give the gentlest curve

I don't have the info off the top of my head because if were up to me, I'd tell you to clip it through a wall or make it go 100 feet up in the air or something

[limpid cairn]

I wonder when the devs add curve and straight rail types

yes, I want the track to turn at a 90° angle

[glad drum]

Curved trucks when??

[limpid cairn]

We need extra freight wagon for trucks

Maybe I’ll use them then instead of belt highways

[upper gale]

If they add turntables it might be able to achieve the same effect. A platform that lifts the train and rotates it onto another track

[limpid cairn]

The logistical errors this will cause will be funny icl

[upper gale]

Yeah lol

[limpid cairn]

I wonder when we get a thread called train issues just for trains

[reef basin]

#1038092680493801533 😛

[upper gale]

aka
trains-and-problems

Probably need a train manual now that we have a pipe manual

[shy fog]

just link doc's video...

[reef basin]

trains are super simple

[next sequoia]

how do i see the map like this
#screenshots message

and
#screenshots message

[white dawn]

That's an external tool called SCIM (https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map)

[next sequoia]

tyty

[reef basin]

(and contrary to its name, it's not a very good calculator 😛 )

[shy fog]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8Mo5iHlNkM and if you need to learn about trains...

[upper gale]

Oh that guy, pretty much all of his tips are helpful

I watch the shorts

[glad drum]

I plan on building a belt highway to run my trucks on top of - for extra speed (I think that works, does it? idk ill find out)

[shy fog]

technically that is one of the shorts, just not looped

[reef basin]

shorts 🤢

[upper gale]

at least be happy I didn't say tiktok

[wicked nacelle]

https://youtu.be/MGw8ngs--7o?si=221Pkxbt6WfZYmuI this is the go to for train stuff. Only thing it’s missing is discussion of the 1.1 bugs but obviously it came out before that

[plain gate]

mediums are alright ig, the 3 minute shorts

would be nice if minutephysics made them into them

[fierce flicker]

i played satisfactory for the first time for an hour and it was fun didn't get much dont tho just the big mining stuff and a smelter

[glad drum]

I like shorts. They're comfy and easy to wear!

[wicked nacelle]

If I played satisfactory for an hour it would be a first for me too 🙂

[fierce flicker]

lmao

[deep pier]

is there a way to like move a hologram up or down?

[wicked nacelle]

Pageup/down

[glad drum]

Yes! Page Up and Page Down

[serene crown]

pg down /up

[deep pier]

maybe I am missing something but that did nothing

[wicked nacelle]

Did you hit h first?

Do the arrow keys move it on X/y plane?

Are you on a keyboard where you need a FN key to access those keys?

Are you running current version of satisfactory? Do you have mods?

[feral geyser]

Give em a sec to respond, geez

[upper gale]

Lock the hologram first/nudge option

[wicked nacelle]

They’re less questions and more things to try

[glad drum]

Step 1: Turn on PC

[deep pier]

no
not sure what that means sorry
not sure but the keyboard does have an fn
I do have current version with no mods and I saw the nudge up/down in the key bind with thoes keys too

[deep pier]

OMG bro is einstein
that was the problem

[limpid cairn]

Surprised by him Ngl

So old but also still explains stuff understandable

[deep pier]

wait it's you

[cunning siren]

Drones picky MFers! They HATE liquid biofuel!!! 😆

[zenith pecan]

I wouldn't dare use liquid biofuel in automated vehicles doing routes 😛

[glad drum]

Oh man I didn't realize y'all linked Doc - I love that guy, he's so chill - like a Grandpa explaining to his grandkids on how to play

[cunning siren]

Yea, i've seen some other videos he does, pretty good info

[limpid cairn]

Too green, need more eco terror !

[limpid cairn]

Wish I had a dad / grandpa like him

[zenith pecan]

That reminds me, I never built a new liquid biofuel conversion plant, bah!

[limpid cairn]

im suprised that my dad never told me anything about ww2 since he was born in there

[brave thorn]

lmaoooo somebody's sky

good one

[gritty zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-cillian-murphy-cillian-murphy-peaky-blinders-gif-1787947313354313976

there may be no embed but you get the idea

[cloud sigil]

do people use the ficsit cart duplication glitch?

[heavy anvil]

why they cost like nothing

[carmine aspen]

and just like that, 1.2 has a patch

[cloud sigil]

huh

wdym

[carmine aspen]

as in theyll probably fix it

[cloud sigil]

ficsit?

they should do it ngl

i found out by accidentally duping all my sombersloops

just by getting like 20 extra the game got so much easier and ruined the playthrough for me

[cursive phoenix]

guys ive made automation for every standard crafting material. what should i focus on niw]

[zenith pecan]

You can eliminate the duplicates by passing them to a doggo then immediately feeding them a nuclear device.

[heavy anvil]

coal

[cloud sigil]

boomboom?

[heavy anvil]

less violently, you can flush them down a toilet

[cursive phoenix]

how do i unlock coal

[heavy anvil]

its a milestone in phase 2 i believe

[zenith pecan]

True but that's one at a time, rather than whole stacks going up in nuclear fire, I don't need to be hugging a toilet for 15-20 minutes when I could be doing other things.

[heavy anvil]

or just drop them off at the edge if the map

or put them in a special box

[zenith pecan]

They don't disappear, I'm aiming to destroy the un-deletable extras when odd crap happens.

[serene crown]

again signals 😭

how tf i do this, so they workkkkkkk 😭

[sullen gull]

Alright you Pioneers! #screenshots message 😏

[unkempt blade]

your roof o' sinks is marvelous

[sullen gull]

Hahaha, that's just to keep machines running while I do other stuff... untill I come back to that area ....

[lament niche]

sabiscracktory collab is coming soon
#screenshots message

[sullen gull]

It's literally like that episode of malcom in the middle .. like .... every day 😒 ... 🤣

[zenith pecan]

My overflow sinks from factories are mostly located in an isolated room off the tunnel network 🙂

[cunning glade]

How important are hmf and computers in this game

[heavy anvil]

very

[cunning glade]

I see

[heavy anvil]

well not hmf as much

[reef basin]

you need a computer to play the game

[heavy anvil]

but you will want a lot of computers

[cunning glade]

Cuz I wanna make a computer factory and hmf one

[sullen gull]

I have a very bad habit of forgetting that I should put in/multiples in factories 🤣 . They always end up as 'after-thoughts'

[zenith pecan]

Fair

[sullen gull]

Until Nov 4 at least. 😏

[cunning glade]

What happens then?

[heavy anvil]

wait no hmf is really important

[cunning glade]

Console?

[reef basin]

console is still a computer

[sullen gull]

Lol, 🤦‍♂️

[unkempt blade]

satisfactory the collectible deck building game

[heavy anvil]

i was thinking fused modular frames, you will need plenty of heavy modular frames for project assembly and other things

[cunning glade]

Then my only issue is figuring out how many

But I wanna do that on my own I think

[gaunt anchor]

1000/m and you’ll be all set👍

[heavy anvil]

i counter your power pole mk2 with my 250% overclocked particle accelerator running on a biomass burner power network

[small notch]

Is it weird that I love this game but hate watching it, I just find it so boring lol

[unkempt blade]

I play my power storage blueprint at instant speed

its ability says "get more power in 2 turns or you lose like a total loser"

[gaunt anchor]

nah, I’d say it’s valid

[heavy anvil]

oh dang then i will have to place procrastination counters on your uranium and copper nodes

[sullen gull]

OK, honestly though, this is getting funny.. I kind of just want to see how big it gets 🤣 . I'm sure this is because I tried to spawn them back with SCIM, but, like, it gets bigger with every login 🤣 #screenshots message (Arachnid warning fyi)

[zenith pecan]

Naa, procrastinate later 🤣

[heavy anvil]

procrastination is the reason i dont have ficsonium fuel rods

[lament niche]

tell that to any self-respecting PC Gaming Masterrace member, I dare ye

[gaunt anchor]

It’s a computer with a lobotomy

[heavy anvil]

if console is a computer then my chromebook has a 5090 ti

[zenith pecan]

A moden console could make an ok general purpose computer if they weren't locked down, as is, once their relevence ends, they become ewaste instead of being able to be repurposed 🙁 (edit: clarity)

[true mulch]

define a computer?

[gaunt anchor]

what is a computer

[upper gale]

It's that one co-worker that's pretending to be working

[lament niche]

Ondar boutta get a visit from Intel and the Microsoft, Apple, and Linux teams

[upper gale]

The recent consoles are pretty strong though

[gaunt anchor]

that one co-worker is me actually but dont call me lobotomised 😔

[small notch]

The new Xbox is getting steam right?

[tired axle]

I’m a bit confused about all those professional bases. Do you build above all the veins (iron, copper, etc.) or do you deliver the raw materials to your base?

[small notch]

In like 2028 tho I think

[heavy anvil]

i would say that to be classified as reasonably functional computer, it must be able to access a web browser and run standard funcionality tasks like microsoft word or similar

[lament niche]

still not a computer. It's like calling a PS2 Slim a laptop

[small notch]

I personally smelt at the nodes then transport the ingots to base

[gaunt anchor]

I build above veins and bring the product back, but you do you

[wicked nacelle]

Everything with a web browser can run a functional word processor

[unkempt blade]

a human who does math for NASA in like the 60s

[true mulch]

you're thinking of a personal computer, not a computer

[tired axle]

Whats the best way to transport stuff over a long distance in the early game

[upper gale]

Awe cmon it's got an internet browser... And uh, it plays games. Close enough

[true mulch]

true and real

[lament niche]

so does the PS2 Slim.

[shrewd palm]

until you get trains the answer to that is going to be belts or trucks

[small notch]

Belts aren’t that bad they just look kinda ugly

[rigid mist]

do i make my nuclear power plant in multiple buildings or in one giant ass buildings

[tired axle]

Alright sounds good. Thank you!

[gaunt anchor]

we WILL be stretching conveyor belts over five mountains in the span of ten minutes

[reef basin]

basically anything that can do sequences of arithmetic/logical operations, so your phone, consoles, servers, smart watches

"Desktop computer" is what most people think of as a computer

[upper gale]

Long ass conveyor belts

[shrewd palm]

they're clean if you make a bus but imo busses only work with mk5 belts

[lament niche]

let me know when you can hook up your console into a Raid 40 matrix

[sullen gull]

computer /kəm-pyoo͞′tər/
noun

A device that computes, especially a programmable electronic machine that performs high-speed mathematical or logical operations or that assembles, stores, correlates, or otherwise processes information. Such a device along with peripherals, especially a monitor, keyboard, and mouse.

[true mulch]

personal computer, a laptop is not a desktop computer but fits the definition provided above

[shrewd palm]

depends on how much of a hit you want your performance to take

[lament niche]

so... not a console. got it

[rigid mist]

it's the same amount of machines just the aesthetics

[unkempt blade]

I think my dog can do addition but he might also just be getting lucky

[shrewd palm]

performance changes a LOT when you put things close together/far apart

[rigid mist]

fair fair

[sullen gull]

At the end of the day, yes, a 'console' is still a "computer"" 🤣 . the Face-palm was the semantics of it all 😏

[rigid mist]

it's 50.4 rods a minute so spread out is probably a good idea

[shrewd palm]

yes

i did that much and i get at most 20fps near the power plant

[lament niche]

"Your PLC is a computer"

no it's not lmao

It's a Programmable Logic Controller and not a computer for a reason lmao

[true mulch]

an apple watch is a computer... a traffic light a computer, too

[gaunt anchor]

I’m pretty sure console can do all that and people sometimes hook it up to a keyboard & mouse, so..

[lament niche]

lemme know when consoles get a calculator app or a basic word processor.

[sullen gull]

We were talking about consoles vs computers. Not logic controllers.

[small notch]

Can’t wait for nuclear power and die from acute radiation poisoning 😁

[lament niche]

it literally fits your definition

[reef basin]

every console is a computer, but not all computers are consoles

[tame marlin]

"headlift exceding recommended level" what does that mean

[sullen gull]

Why isn't an apple watch technically a computer? Sans peripherals of couse...

[unkempt blade]

if you arrange it so it mimics an ALU it's a computer 🙂

[gaunt anchor]

my ps4 got a web browser where I can use a calculator and a word equivalent

[reef basin]

headlift = how high can fluid go
you need more of that if you want to move fluid more up

[lament niche]

so, still not built in?

[heavy anvil]

your pipe is too high youll likely need a pump

[gaunt anchor]

my pc doesn’t have steam built into it, it can’t run games

[lament niche]

If: you cannot hook it up to work as part of a Raid-40, it's not a computer. end of story.

[reef basin]

if it can run doom, it's a computer 😄

[sullen gull]

What 'software it has' isn't really a differentiator either imo.

[shrewd palm]

does this mean that a pdf is a computer

[gaunt anchor]

microwave and fridge enter chat

[unkempt blade]

pipe liquid - also surprisingly a computer

[lament niche]

"yo guys this lego 2x2 sloped brick is a computer"

[gaunt anchor]

well to be fair Lego doesn’t run doom

[lament niche]

you should double check yourself on that

[reef basin]

pdf isn't running doom tho

[lament niche]

double check yourself on that one especially

[gaunt anchor]

are we talking world of warcraft now, talk English no hablo espaniol

[upper gale]

Minecraft redstone computers too

[unkempt blade]

now if you print the PDF and it still runs doom, total computer

[lament niche]

wrong type of raid 40

[reef basin]

the computer (or whatever is viewing the PDF) is the thing that runs the doom

[west verge]

You are nearly insufferable clearly people meant computers as in desktop computers 😭 the definition doesn’t matter if the bulk of people discussing it agree on what the word “computer” is referencing dawg

[reef basin]

you can run doom within PDF

[lament niche]

Minecraft redstone computers are actual computers though

[sullen gull]

I swear, sometimes I feel you all just come up with random things that has no correlation in an attempt to make things "less serious" or something 😏

[lament niche]

welcome to why half the server has Greeny blocked

[sullen gull]

Still software that needs a "computer" to operate.

[reef basin]

given that I was the one who first used the "computer" in context from which this discussion took place, I'm pretty sure that I know what I meant, and it wasn't "desktop computer"

[unkempt blade]

only if they can run Doom

[west verge]

Yeah I am in understanding now

[gaunt anchor]

poor greeny

[lament niche]

you should try to learn sometime, especially when an expert is trying to teach you

[sullen gull]

doesn't even know why he is continuing. Goes back to figuring out what to do with the ever growing Stinger 😒

[west verge]

Given you are 1 of however many people, my argument is still true

You must not get much attention at home to need to be this nitpicky

[reef basin]

so other people nitpicking my argument is fine?

[lament niche]

im noping out of this convo

[reef basin]

but when I reply it's bad?

[west verge]

Yeah because you are perpetuating it, it’s frustrating isn’t it🤣

[upper gale]

It's pretty entertaining 10/10 ragebaiter, all he said was consoles are computers and then everyone lost it 😹

[reef basin]

?

[west verge]

I’m also out of here have fun yall

[unkempt blade]

everyone who is getting upset over computers should go build a skate park for their factory carts for a little bit

[gaunt anchor]

the expert as in trying to be efficient by wiping out the only source of automation for power slugs

[sullen gull]

Oh, just realized... there are two here that are ginourmous! ...

[gaunt anchor]

true lol

[lament niche]

...You know you can manufacture power shards, right?

[gaunt anchor]

one of two sources fine

[lament niche]

well when one source likes to try to kill me by giving me plutonium waste, and the other source doesn't, I'm kind of going to prefer the one that doesn't try to kill me

[unkempt blade]

any serious doggo farmer would have a conveyor belt that goes waaaaay far away for when they loot waste

it's just basic ranching best practices

[gaunt anchor]

preferring one source over the other doesn’t mean the genocide of it

[lament niche]

Don't you have a cartmaxxing speedrun to do

[hard ivy]

1. it was uranium waste, not plutonium waste
2. doggos no longer give you uranium waste

[lament niche]

THE ONE SOURCE IS TRYING TO GENOCIDE ME

[unkempt blade]

I'm already the world record holder. I need some competition

[gaunt anchor]

well it’s not trying to kill every pioneer, just YOU

[lament niche]

perfect reason to kill it before it kills me

[zenith pecan]

Nuclear devices for the doggo's!

[shy mulch]

Why are they so big?

[gaunt anchor]

ones playing catch with nuclear waste, the other with dynamite

[lament niche]

Tinker let the doggos live for too long

[hard ivy]

Dumbass blocked me because he didn't like being corrected, continues being wrong. Comedy lmao

[gaunt anchor]

lmao

[reef basin]

welcome to my world 😄

[prime jasper]

Who are you talking about? Someone I already blocked maybe?

[zenith pecan]

🤷‍♂️

[lament niche]

the world shall never know

[gaunt anchor]

must’ve been the wind

[heavy anvil]

good gravy, all this savagery because i made a diminishing joke about consoles

[sullen gull]

I think it's because I tried to respawn them using SCIM. Ended up spawning 4 on accident, figured' I leave it, and they just keep getting bigger and bigger everytime I relog it seems lol.

[nocturne orbit]

so sad that Jason's "truth of my chest" post isn't real

[shy mulch]

That's one of the most disconcerting bugs 😂

[sullen gull]

The other two are still thier original size lol

[gaunt anchor]

gotta entertain ourselves somehow

[cunning siren]

Why Awesome sink so thicc?

[shy mulch]

I think the real question is why would you choose to respawn them

[prime jasper]

Anyway my next project after finishing the last factories to work towards phase 4 will be a nuke factory. I can't wait to give all the spiders a good taste of the atom.

I don't care how expensive it gets, I want so many nukes, in the end I should be able to use them as paperweight.

[unkempt blade]

It was a good conversation. I feel like I learned a lot about how liquids in satisfactory are actually computers too

[sullen gull]

Lol, I was planning my power shard factory to have an "exhibit" 🤣

[gaunt anchor]

But what about lizard doggos? Don’t they have liquid inside them too?

[shy mulch]

1 manufacturer should be plenty, as long as you've got the suitable inputs. They aren't that hard to do

[sullen gull]

I learned though, they don't aggro if you're behind glass...

[unkempt blade]

yeah but those don't do headlift math they just gurgle around

[gaunt anchor]

Maybe it did calculate the exact chance of spawning nuclear waste for the follower of cult

[shy mulch]

If the lizard doggo grows to more than 50m tall then it can headlift issues

[unkempt blade]

You know what... a weighted random probably counts as math. I think you're right

[gaunt anchor]

If only the follower could see this

World shattering truth

[sullen gull]

I will have to say, at least these things are locked into a position where I don't have to see thier face 🤣

Going to re-log and see if they get bigger 🤣 🤣

[lament niche]

if you turn on Arachnaphobia mode, do they become giant cat PNGs?

[shrewd palm]

that would be very cool

[next sequoia]

so when i go to load in my save from today into the website, its not showing my saves from today

[sullen gull]

Ohhh, good question. Will try it after logging back in lol

[sullen gull]

Clear your cache?

[next sequoia]

of my pc?

[upper gale]

Have to load your save again

[sullen gull]

Web browser for starters. (Firefox, Chrome, (Edge 🤮 ))

[sullen gull]

This too.

It doesn't save everything. Only collectables gathered I believe?

Recipies maybe?

[next sequoia]

have reloaded it, and its not showing up int he actual file so not a browser issue

[sullen gull]

#screenshots message 🤣

[shrewd palm]

what happens if you turn on arachnophobia mode?

[next sequoia]

my other saves are on my USB?

[sullen gull]

Working on it

[next sequoia]

what file would it be in if not my usb

[shy mulch]

Can you climb up it? Maybe you can make it grow as high as the space elavator

[versed mesa]

Where could I find purple power slugs ?

[shrewd palm]

generally up, they're in much more dangerous/harder to reach areas

[crystal siren]

arachnophobic ppl browsing through screenshots right now: 🤯

[sullen gull]

OK, so, I turned it on and it went away. Tried to jump down to see where it went, and, like instantly died for some reason ....

[versed mesa]

For real damn no wonder ive not seen yet only blue and yellow ones

[unkempt blade]

On a very tall rock next to the rocky desert start. Also basically everywhere

[sullen gull]

I mean, at least there is no face 🤣

[shrewd palm]

there are a ton of slugs in the titan forest and quite a lot of them are purple

also a decent amount in the red forest

and a ton of slugs on the cliffs in/around the spire coast too

[versed mesa]

Ok ill try keep my eye out more thanks

[sullen gull]

They are all over. Check ALL the trees in the titan forest too

[crystal siren]

spire coast ones are easy and also on the way to the dune desert in those rocky pillars

many purple slugs

[shrewd palm]

problem with the spire coast is that theres a ton of hatchers

bring a boombox

[sullen gull]

Or crouch every where 🙂

[versed mesa]

I've got a bigish build project gonna start for oil ect i am going to look to see what other oil spots there are

[shy mulch]

I use regular rifle on hatchers. 4 quick shots kills them before they hatch anything, can do from miles away

[shy mulch]

Etc

[versed mesa]

Not sure where titan forest is but basically any forest

[versed mesa]

Excetra

[sullen gull]

Far west coast, blue crater, Spire obviously, and some a bit north of spire. There are also some resource wells that have a good biit

[shy mulch]

That spelling causes me pain 😂🤮

[shrewd palm]

spire coast has a little over 3k oil in it, west coast and blue crater both have under 2k i think, altough blue crater has everything else you'd need for phase 3

there are a couple places with oil nodes and some wells scattered around too

[versed mesa]

Sorry I dont know how to spell it please teach me daddy lmfao

[sullen gull]

It's the one that has giant tree. Bout mid/right quadrant of the map, nearer the center/right I guess 🤷‍♂️

[shrewd palm]

^^ lots of big trees, in between red forest and swamp

[versed mesa]

Am already at one but I want to check other areas near by

[sullen gull]

Yeah, much easier description for sure 🤣

[shy mulch]

It's from Latin
'et' means 'and'
'cetera' means 'other things'
Put them together 'et cetera' = 'and other things'
In why you shorten it to et c or in modern times we miss the space and just say etc

[versed mesa]

What you mean by K is this spots like 2k spots ?

[sullen gull]

Oh, that's hilarious .. it spawned me to the Hub built in the BPD 😏 ...

[shrewd palm]

oil per minute

K is thousand

[versed mesa]

Really damn

[shrewd palm]

2-3k oil sounds like a lot and tbh it is

[versed mesa]

@shrewd palm this spot am currently at is right next to big ocean and islands

[shrewd palm]

but it runs out quickly

[sullen gull]

Ooof... turning off arachnophobia mode make them huge again ....

[shrewd palm]

did it make big cat pngs or small ones?

[crystal siren]

in German we also have "usw." which stands for "und so weiter" which translates to "and so on"
and as you can see, usw. is much easier to write as etc.

[versed mesa]

What happens when runs out then ?

[sullen gull]

OK, time to hope their size isn't indicative of hit points 🤣

[shy mulch]

My 6k rocket fuel build uses 1.5k oil

[versed mesa]

Rip

[shrewd palm]

time to expand and find more oil. resource nodes in this game are infinite

[shy mulch]

Interesting. Thanks for the info. But why is it easier. 3 letters is 3 letters

[tame marlin]

do liquids come out of refinery with some headlift

[shy mulch]

10m

[shrewd palm]

i think all liquid producers make 10m of headlift

[sullen gull]

All machines should give at least 10m headlift

[versed mesa]

So we need more than one oil locations rigs setup

[crystal siren]

I've not seen one person speel "usw" wrong, yet many ppl write "ect" instead of "etc" 😁

[shrewd palm]

theres enough oil where you are now

using all the oil nodes + the well there i have a rubber/plastic plant making 4500 rubber and 3600 plastic

just make sure to overclock all your miners/extractors and whatnot

[sullen gull]

AAAnnnd they're ded.

[shrewd palm]

😭

[shy mulch]

People write in their own language and know the meaning, makes it easier to remember. Most German spkers probably know what usw means. Many English speakers probably don't know what etc means in Latin, so they won't remember. The people who know the meaning always get it right

[versed mesa]

Yeah it say theres 2 more right next to my first one tgat am at so am going to go check them out to see what i think about where the others are at ive been sorting all my building and materials out and put in my truck storage and am more or less set to make moves and begin my journey more

[tame marlin]

i wish we could mirror the visuals of the machines

[shrewd palm]

the only things i find the asymmetry is annoying on are blenders and refineries ngl

[versed mesa]

Yeah where ive currently started playing not all are over clocked and I need alot more power slugs to creat those things

[rigid mist]

nuke rebar when?

[shrewd palm]

im sure that other people have probably told you but you can craft shards in constructors and sloop the constructors

[versed mesa]

Excestra

Lol

[shrewd palm]

one thing that would be worth doing in the near future would be running around the map and grabbing all the slugs, artifacts, and hard drives you can find

[versed mesa]

Shards dont I needs power slugs though

[shrewd palm]

yes

[crystal siren]

sounds like a Harry Potter spell

[fluid sapphire]

they just mean that you shouldnt craft them by hand

[shrewd palm]

^^

[versed mesa]

Am trying to spell ect lmfao

[versed mesa]

Well if ive not got many power slugs then I will craft by hand it easy lol

[crystal siren]

should put them into a constructor with Slööps

more shards that way

[sullen gull]

Et-cetera

[fluid sapphire]

you cant use sloops when you craft by hand, so you will miss out on extras

[shrewd palm]

sloops double the amount of things coming out for the same amount coming in

[versed mesa]

Yeah i am slightly aware ive occasionally been finding crash sites abit but need more lol

[west verge]

Real quick pet peeve (not picking on you in particular) as someone who is newer to the game I am not a fan of people advising to sloop shards, it takes quite a while to be able to research that

I am on phase 3 and still unable to sloop things because computers are a mid game item, it was very confusing for a long while is all🤣

[crystal siren]

or try to avoid sharding anything until assembly phase 4 like me 😛

[shrewd palm]

so literally no reason to hand craft shards unless you dont having slooping unlocked

[versed mesa]

Whats sloops ?

[west verge]

Anyways minor rant over, TLDR it is a helpful tip but not for new players IMO

[shrewd palm]

somersloops, they're pink/purple and look like the cool S thing

[versed mesa]

Yeah stop confusing me please lmao

[fluid sapphire]

whats confusing?

[sullen gull]

It's the S ..... Everyone knows the "Cool S"! 😏

[fluid sapphire]

[versed mesa]

Whats cool S ?

[shy mulch]

It depends, it's possible to get it earlier

[shrewd palm]

dont worry about it then, you only really need power shards for miners/extractors and only then in the later game

[crystal siren]

I know, I also didn't bother researching it until I actually had the resources. Probably still helpful if someone crafts ALL their shards and they're just lying around and they find out later that they could have gotten way more

[west verge]

Run around the map and follow the glittery sounds to find collectables

[versed mesa]

Exactly lol

[sullen gull]

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Cool S

The Cool S, also known as the Universal S, the Stüssy S, the Super S, the Pointy S, and the Graffiti S, is a graffiti sign in popular culture and childlore that is typically doodled on children's notebooks or graffitied on walls. The exact origin of the Cool S is unknown,[1] but it became prevalent around the early 1980s as a part of graffiti culture.

[hard ivy]

You can unlock it before completing phase 1 if you're dedicated enough

[fluid sapphire]

these are an item you can pick up in the world, and research in the alien tech tree, its called production amplification

[shy mulch]

Can confirm 😎

[west verge]

Yeah that’s completely fair

[shrewd palm]

i think i heard somewhere that it first appeared in some viking writing like way back in the 900s or 1000s or something, but i doubt thats credible

[west verge]

How?? With doggo?

[versed mesa]

Are yous on about the sphere

[shy mulch]

Yep

[hard ivy]

And crash site loot

[versed mesa]

Yeah ive been finding spheres

[sullen gull]

Lol, no clue... I just remember way back when in middle school, thinking I was sooo cool for knowing how to draw/write it 🤣 🤦‍♂️

[crystal siren]

The more dangerous the crash site is (monsters protecting it) the better the loot lying around (usually)

[versed mesa]

Yeah ive noticed this recently

[west verge]

Ahh I lowkey forgot about that (haven’t been on a big exploration in a while) I guess that makes sense then

[versed mesa]

Any ways I need head off on my journeys thank alot but info ect I can waste more time i want todo what I have planned in my head lol

[west verge]

Idk like I said for me it was just confusing not knowing anything while one of the biggest tips was “sloop all power shards”

[sullen gull]

As well as biomass production early on.

[shy mulch]

Don't forget to collect and save lizard doggo milk. You'll need it later

[versed mesa]

Am a slow learner and beginner cut me some slack lol

[shrewd palm]

while you're at it make sure to use as much screws as you can

[crystal siren]

I would never invest time researching somersloops for biomass burners, way easier to rush coal xD

[shrewd palm]

by having all your recipes use screws you clean up production lines

[shy mulch]

But what if you just love biomass

[crystal siren]

I still didn't automate ionized fuel for the jetpack, still using liquid biofuel

[versed mesa]

Am out for now

[crystal siren]

so yeah, right now I have at setup with sloops 😛

[sullen gull]

Imo, mass exploring as early as imaginable, can pay off rather quickly with the resources gathered. I also don't recommend going ginormous with production right off the bat. Keeping a single container full or all the items, and not worrying about machines starting and stopping at the moment, would be plenty for "early game".

Also, exploring in the vehicles is nice because you can throw leaves/wood in whenever, and are 'protected' when driving. Unless you fall off into a chasm of course 🤣

[crystal siren]

yeah I know but I kinda see it more of a challenge to actually wait until you produce the parts yourself instead of using the stuff lying around on the ground. But that's just my way of playing the game, for a speedrun or someone who wants to skip the early game it's helpful

[cunning glade]

So if I change the autosave interval it would help the lag from saving yes now what if I did that but I still lag every 5 mins

Cuz this shit is annoying

[sullen gull]

Find your local Microcenter? 😏

Honestly though, not sure, bunch of different variables perhaps.

[cunning glade]

And upgrade what only thing better GPU wise is a 5090 but barely

Main game id get worse fps actually

And CPU i don't really want 9800x3d waiting for next gen but 12700k ain't horrible

[sullen gull]

Heh, honestly, for me, for the longest time, i didn't realize my monitors were locked at 60hz. hughe improvment going from 60 to thier native 165 🤣

[carmine harbor]

so, after like, a few hundred hours in this game already, I just learned about the lock hologram option

[sullen gull]

That's what I have.

[sullen gull]

Let the games begin! 😏

[carmine harbor]

also utilizing the blueprint thingy more

about to make a simple train system too

[sullen gull]

I as well have only recently begun to dive hard into BP's... but that's with almost 4k hours 🤣

[carmine harbor]

dayum

well, I'm sure those 4k hours were just as fun

[sullen gull]

In a year .... 😒

[sullen gull]

But yes, of course! 🤣

[cunning glade]

Yeah fps wise I'm at like 200-220 most times

[sullen gull]

Personally, I have learned to love that little lage spike... especially when I am in the air with the Jetpack ... free super boost! 🤣

But, given the nature of the game, I wouldn't ever expect a 100% lag free experience. 🤷‍♂️

[cunning glade]

Nah going from buttery smooth game too freeze for 3-4Seconds is annoying

Game runs smooth besides autosave

[sullen gull]

You could also try the UObject counter mod. And check it with first loading the save to see where you are.

Though, I kept it running for a bit after first installing, and noticed the number creeps up the longer I played. And one day, I jet it go above the "max", and sure enough got a Max UObject crash at the same time. Something to do with some bugs with the "garbage management" I'm told.

I should try to enable ficsmas and make some fireworks .. to celebrate hitting 2k hours in ths one save when it happens (it's close) 🤣

[primal pecan]

how many generator can 2 pure oil power?

[unkempt blade]

depends on what type of fuel and what recipes you use to get there

[primal pecan]

lets say how many fuel-powered generator can 2 pure oil power , not sure if thats specific enough to answer my question

[unkempt blade]

vanilla fuel recipe 1200/min oil => 800 fuel => 40 gens

you can get MUCH higher than that with alt recipes

[primal pecan]

the heavy oil and water alt?

[unkempt blade]

heavy oil residue and diluted fuel, yeah

[primal pecan]

but that only works on blender no?

[unkempt blade]

there's a blender version and a packager version

but they'd have the same math

[primal pecan]

ohhh nice, got it, so 2 pure oil can power 40 gens? so thats 20 refinery? correct?

[random shore]

how does everyone transfer completed items to a mall from modular factories

[unkempt blade]

factory carts obviously

[boreal musk]

160 gens with heavy oil residue + diluted (packaged) fuel

1152 gens with heavy oil residue + diluted + nitro rocket

[serene crown]

#hate trains

[sullen gull]

7

[cunning siren]

There is an alternating message on the "resource well pressurizer" 🤔

[shrewd palm]

you should get different ada voicelines depending on how fast you go

[versed mesa]

Thanks fully ivr just found my first purple power slugs and or damn it was extremely high in needed to use lifts to get up here and conveyor

[boreal musk]

new 1.2 ADA update, now she track your progress real time

[versed mesa]

Ive needed to leave a small amount of screw sphere because my storage was full lol

[versed mesa]

Is there an update dropped ?

[boreal musk]

well no, but 1.2 is indeed confirmed

[versed mesa]

Hiw how you know ?

[boreal musk]

just watch their vid

[versed mesa]

What will be added ?

[boreal musk]

no info about that

[versed mesa]

Witch video?

[boreal musk]

#announcements

[versed mesa]

Hmm I did already watch it i never hear anything about update

[boreal musk]

they did confirm it, to make it easier you can just watch the end of their anniv video

my seasonal event is always on

never really bothered with the song bcs im not near hub all day anyway

[noble topaz]

every once in a while my refinery keeps turning off for no reason #screenshots message

[boreal musk]

your alumina is backing up

[noble topaz]

thats how low the amount it can stack is?

jeez

[boreal musk]

fluid can only stack to 50

but it doesnt matter anyway

[noble topaz]

thought it was more
huh

[boreal musk]

you see the number per cycle, not the amount each stack

how much alumina youre making? you need to use them all or else everything will get clogged

[civic ferry]

lolk

[leaden turret]

@obsidian zodiac typo has given me two ideas for ficsoween:

• magic staff reskin for the xenobasher so you can "you shall not pass!" a charging hog
• magic staff reskin for the rifle so you can "now eat this sucka!" all the mobs (see #off-topic-media message in case you're not familiar with the reference)

[spare bolt]

Is Satisfactory on Steamdeck?

[leaden turret]

it is if you put it there

[spare bolt]

Will I need a separate bluetooth keyboard?

[leaden turret]

game has controller support now, so shouldn't need to

[spare bolt]

Ok, I’ll see later on this week if it does

[boreal musk]

can we get a magic potion in satisfactory to reduce bean size

[leaden turret]

[leaden turret]

@finite hornet wonderland-inspired bean build for halloween, maybe?

[peak wasp]

You gotta be fucking kidding me

https://youtube.com/shorts/1Vh72781ctA?si=oW0EPLmEArtuH9cW

How....what? I...

[plain gate]

always been like that

[peak wasp]

I DIDN'T KNOW LOL

I've been manually screwing with it

[shy fog]

replace all ammo with candy corn and pumpkins

on a more bench presser note I am down to assembly director system and then ending phase 4

[unkempt blade]

hold on just a second there, weaponized candy corn is clearly in violation of the geneva convention

[jade peak]

i wish there was a block that just timed the outputs properly, or you could custom set a belt speed

[shy fog]

cite the convention that says you can't fire pumpkins at aliens?

or throw explosive candy corn

[unkempt blade]

pumpkins are fine, those aren't a waxy little chemical weapon

[leaden turret]

the one about IEDs that attract kids

[shy fog]

we actually have a pumpkin cannon competition every year also...

ah... ok... so full pumpkins that glow red and evil?