satisfactory

[unkempt blade]

The controller was great for like subnautica or something where there's very little building and mostly exploring but I have trouble imagining building full sized factories on a controller

[limpid cairn]

It’s not ui heavy when you do ctrl x + ctrl v

[red sun]

i don't like controllers in general so i won't have a good experience either way

[limpid cairn]

Controllers are only good if you never used a mouse and keyboard before

[unkempt blade]

I actually like my controller a lot for like ARPGs or bullet hells or that sort of game but those have much simpler needs for what the buttons map to

[red sun]

i just find controllers super uncomfortable, my index fingers go numb after a while of resting them on the triggers

[limpid cairn]

The only downside of mouse and keyboard is that you can develop clearer iirc

Or some issues with your wrist

[limpid cairn]

Do you prefer a driving wheel for factory carts btw ?

The question comes out of curiosity btw

[unkempt blade]

oh jeez... now I might have to go borrow one to see how well that works 😆

[red sun]

all i'm saying is that if the game ever comes to vr i so badly want to zip around my factory in a factory cart with a driving wheel

[limpid cairn]

😭

I can’t imagine adding vr to the game can be hard

[red sun]

i mean the factory cart and vehicles in general would need a whole interior because it would be weird to be third-person in vr

[limpid cairn]

They already have interior you just have to change the fov no?

Besides for trains and trucks

[red sun]

no idea, i still just think it's enough work that i wouldn't expect them to do it

would be cool but it's understandable if they don't

[limpid cairn]

Time to make a vr mod

[red sun]

i would be all over that

[limpid cairn]

Ngl it be nice to have some mods added into the base game like ark did it

[silk ocean]

Is it xD

[keen jacinth]

best alt recipe for radio control units?

[silk ocean]

Why would you suppose that ?

[red sun]

man the fuckin goat simulator boombox tape crashed my game

there's no way

the music stopped for some reason so i put the boombox down thinking it would fix it, and the game seized up and crashed

[cursive totem]

Oh boy I got the diluted packaged fuel recipe

Ultra huge turbo fuel plant incoming

[rustic hare]

why turbo but not rocket

[cursive totem]

Don't have it yet

[limpid cairn]

im using the crystal one

nvm

theres no crystal one

[candid ingot]

So like...

[limpid cairn]

wait nvm there is

[candid ingot]

Is ionized fuel worth it?

for power?

[limpid cairn]

for power no, for fuel yes

[candid ingot]

ok

RF it is

[limpid cairn]

how smart is it bringing all the worlds uranium to one place?

[zenith pecan]

There's only a handful of nodes so I doubt it would be too much of an issue, plus you can put the uranium processing facility in one spot that lets you control any radiation hazard as you see fit.

The only issue is the time and materials, but that shouldn't be a problem while building the nuclear industry 🙂

[red sun]

i'm so confused, my game keeps crashing all of a sudden

never had this issue before

[hard ivy]

if you want to get 630 GW of nuclear power, sure

[cursive totem]

is liquid biofuel useful at all when i already have turbofuel?

[hard ivy]

for the jetpack? absolutely

lbf is good even if you have ionized

[cursive totem]

it goes further but its so slow

[hard ivy]

slow is good if you want to hover

[cursive totem]

hm yeah i guess

[unkempt blade]

drones are actually usually pretty nice for moving uranium ore because the quantities are too crazy

[limpid cairn]

whats the best way to get fuel to them tho?

deliver fuel to each drone port or what?

[zenith pecan]

You can use somersloops to hugely boost how much liquid biofuel you get in return, its usefulness is hampered by the fact it can never be fully automated so apart from personal vehicle/jetpack fuel and a tiny window of a backup power source, it is a bit of a "don't bother"

[limpid cairn]

you can sloop the refinery that produces lbf yeah just not for the packager

you can technically sloop the entire process of creating liquid biofuel lol

[zenith pecan]

The packager being able to be slooped would be hilarious as it would allow for an infinite loop that produces which no longer requires input 🤣

Literally, which is why they'd never let you sloop packagers 🙂 , imagine something looking like this #satisfactory-experimental message , but its boosted output is siphoned while the same fuel goes around in circles.

[unkempt blade]

yeah you'd have to deliver it there somehow. If it's close to where the fuel comes from I'd use a truckstop or conveyor probably but if it's far away you build 2 drone ports at the uranium node. One delivers uranium and the other pulls fuel from a drone port at the fuel source

[limpid cairn]

i should build the uranium factory at an ocean right?

[zenith pecan]

Put it wherever you want, my old one was under the map pretty much in in the middle.

[unkempt blade]

the rod factory may not need water but your nuclear generators sure will

[hard ivy]

you should build the reactors above an ocean. the rod factory can be nearby, but doesn't have to

[limpid cairn]

dont you need like 600m^3 water per minute?

[hard ivy]

for a max OC reactor, yeah

that's why you want them on water

[zenith pecan]

I usually build water extraction right below the reactors, far simpler pipeworks and no need for miles of it.

[versed mesa]

What stage does plastic blueprint gets added ?

[static spruce]

Ok I'm realising that 90 RCU/min might be overkill

[hard ivy]

you mean recipe? oil processing in tier 5

[limpid cairn]

theres only one and its in oil tier already

[zenith pecan]

I had the same revelation when I made 60 oscillators just for depot storage.

[static spruce]

I have 93/min atm coz I realized a lot of alt recipes used them and could facilitate my life later on

[versed mesa]

Ive not unlocked yet but ive almost finished phase 2 just need like 300 smart plating then can send

[zenith pecan]

Production oscillators will be elsewhere, the 60 was from me utilising the quartz deposits I usually ignore due to their placement in a cave under the rocky desert, my of my build tends to be in the swamp/dunes/grasslands.

[versed mesa]

Ive only had gotten some plastic off of my companion

But need more

[hard ivy]

you can find some at crash sites if you want it asap

[versed mesa]

Am quite new to the game ive got roughly 40 hours in

[versed mesa]

That takes time to find crash site is think ive only came across 2 so far

Am interested to see what comes once phase 2 is complete

[limpid cairn]

you get plastic after you send the smart platings dw

[versed mesa]

Nice thank you I was thinking that I mite

@limpid cairn are you on the first map I did not know what to choose when first started so I just went with the first one

[limpid cairn]

there is no first map all biomes are connected together

you just start in different biomes

[hard ivy]

there's only 1 map. the grassy plains are just one of the 4 starting locations

[versed mesa]

Ah so i am in first biome is this alright ?

[limpid cairn]

yes

[versed mesa]

Great

[hard ivy]

first starting biome. there's way more biomes than just the 4 starting ones

[limpid cairn]

theres like 5 major ones and some small ones no?

[versed mesa]

I do need some stuff witch ive nit gotten yet and seams i need t9 travel further to get like kill different type of creature

[limpid cairn]

you can find every creature in every biome

[white dawn]

If you want to spoil the map for yourself: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/World#/media/File:Biome_Map.jpg

[dull flare]

depends where u draw the line between major and small

[naive orchid]

QUICK QUESTION HOW DO I CHANGE THE DIRECTION IM GOING IN THE HYPERTUBE BRANCH PLEASE IM STUCK WAAAA

[versed mesa]

Thb I just class them as map planets they all seam different on the passage when first start

[smoky forge]

E

or just respawn if you are softlocked

[versed mesa]

But others are further distance i believe

[smoky forge]

normal hogs in the swamp?

[naive orchid]

ima post ts in screenshots

[versed mesa]

Earlier I had crafted and equipped the mask so now it will help alot with toxic areas

[smoky forge]

dont forget the filters

[hard ivy]

You also want the blade runners and some weapons

[zenith pecan]

Or just use explosives to destroy the gas pillars.

[versed mesa]

I dont think it's a hog one thing i am after is Sam and theres another but can't recall what it was but I added to my to do list

[smoky forge]

#screenshots message okay dont exit the hypertube accelerator when you already built up so much momentum

[versed mesa]

Or damn ive fir gotten to craft them thanks for reminding me ill do that later on

[smoky forge]

like then you are softlocked and doomed at the same time

[zenith pecan]

If stuck in a tube, save to a new slot, exit and reload will drop him next to the tube where he was at the time of save.

[naive orchid]

i had to ask what button to press when im stuck

[versed mesa]

Yes ive got bkade runner also and ive got that one that fires like nail or what ever it is

[smoky forge]

rebar gun

decent for exporing

2 shots normal hatchers

so good enough

[versed mesa]

Do you get anything from destroying them ?

[smoky forge]

nope

just free space

[zenith pecan]

Yeah, non toxic area you can walk without choking 🙂

[versed mesa]

Lol

[versed mesa]

Awesome cant wait to test lol

[versed mesa]

Yeah thats it

[zenith pecan]

There is a certain satisfaction in nuking entire areas in order to clear for construction too #screenshots message

[versed mesa]

My next one is to unlock rifle

[dim flint]

Turbo rifle is a joy

[versed mesa]

Need material for that witch i dont currently have

[covert vault]

homing > turbo

[versed mesa]

Thanks ill take a look now

[smoky forge]

no aim?

[dim flint]

Only for the little sipders imo

I have pretty good aim

[versed mesa]

Yeah turbo rifle sounds good

[covert vault]

homing is easier for hitting things like the hatcher flys and also for hitting moving targets when flying on the jetpack

[zenith pecan]

Even more nuclear device abuse #screenshots message 🤣 , there is just a visceral joy to blowing things to bits.

[versed mesa]

Sweet ill work with it when I unlocked it

[versed mesa]

Mad crazy lol

[dense violet]

no, machines manage the flow. Valves should probably just be avoided

[versed mesa]

Where does over the cliffs lead to would that be where other Domes would be ?

[smoky forge]

again, you can improve your aim, not your damage per bullet or hitspeed

[covert vault]

I'm well aware that I can improve my aim, but in both the situations I gave the homing rifle increases the likelihood of me hitting, so why wouldn't I use it?

[upper gale]

Brother this isn't a competitive fps game

[versed mesa]

Lol

[zenith pecan]

That's why I spam nukes to clear, if I wanted to be competitive I'd probably still be in destiny 2 crucible.

[smoky forge]

kinda feels like it with the radio hogs and green stingers

[versed mesa]

Ive only exploded one thing so far and that a big rock covering a mining spot

[zenith pecan]

For really irritating fauna, I just use a blueprinted combat shack that has conveyor walls for me to shoot or launch explosives out of with impunity 🙂

[versed mesa]

When does the multiplayer kick in ?

[limpid cairn]

@unkempt blade @hard ivy is it worth starting with nuclear power before phase 5 (phase 5 is the stuff with quantum processing no)

[zenith pecan]

Valves tend to complicate matters, their flow regulation is more of a guideline so you can't properly focus flow rate, and I have even had liquid travel the wrong way through one once, better pipeworks and 0 valves are generally better for your sanity.

[hard ivy]

phase 5 gives you ficsonium and tier 6 belts. tier 6 belts will helpful regardless of what you do, but ficsonium is pretty useless if you only want power

[limpid cairn]

Ficsodium is my goal

It doesn’t even seem that hard to automate

[hard ivy]

It is expensive af

If you only want power, storing the plutonium waste is much easier and cheaper

If you want wasteless power, sinking Pu rods is also cheaper and easier than Ficsonium, though not as much as storing waste

Ficsonium is mostly a vanity project or a challenge

[limpid cairn]

Do you even get an achievement for crafting it

[dense violet]

none really.

People make water towers with them? but all they do is the same thing a pump does

similar to fluid buffers, but you actually need those for fluid train platforms

[unkempt blade]

If you don't already have a ton of extra power I'd start on it when you get it. If you have say tons of oil-based power already then there's not really a rush

nuclear power is a pretty major project (but also lots of fun) so it'll probably keep you busy for a bit 😆

[dense violet]

so in general what you want to do is clock groups of machines to send what needs to be sent

so if you need 300 flow to a group? send 300 flow from the point of origin. Keep pipes simple

[deep pier]

would anyone for some reason be intrested in helping me make a factory with that puts extra mattriel into a storage system and then everything extra into a sink?(I tried doing it with yt and blue print but had to remake it twice)

[tight crown]

Hey guys,
I was think about buy my self a 49’ screen from Samsung but I see so many comments about them
Do you have any about playing Satisfactory on them ?

[dense violet]

#1201555265942724758

[deep pier]

not someone to play with I meant like through call and I will share screen unless that's included in the channel

[dense violet]

your best bet is to just ask specific questions when you need it on here I think.

but that would still be the channel you'd ask in. asking in here will have your msg disapear in a couple minutes

[deep pier]

ggs

[versed mesa]

Sounds like it's hard lol

[shy mulch]

what's the difficulty? Just place a storage container with a depot on top, connected with a conveyor lift. In front of the storage container place a smart splitter, overflow into container, all to whaterever you need it. Done

[keen jacinth]

is the infused uranium cell recipe any good lol

[lime ermine]

Very good

[keen jacinth]

do iget it then

i have it rn as an option

[hard ivy]

if you want more uranium cells for your uranium ore, yes

[deep pier]

the placement then like moving everything where they need to be

[keen jacinth]

i mean ill prob use it for like, a nuke obelisk farm

[hard ivy]

if you're gonna make a nuclear plant, sure

[shy mulch]

I don't understand what the difficulty is here. Show a screenshot of what you have and post it in #1038092680493801533 and explain exactly what you're trying to do

[deep pier]

ok, also I got rid of the stuff to the assembler ect so I just have constructer and smelter rn but low key I think I need to re do thoes and the mining too

[shy mulch]

nobody can help you if you don't explain the question, you're throwing words around but not asking something that can be answered

[deep pier]

wait how does the question and help thing work?

[shy mulch]

what do you mean how does it work? you post a question, and people can answer it if they want to, there's not really anything to explain that isn't covered by the name of the channel

[upper gale]

Need to use a smart splitter, set it to "overflow" for the direction towards the sink

[limpid cairn]

holy youre smart

i usually just place depots infront of the storage

[small notch]

👋

[upper gale]

It's a common thing to put the depot on top,

But you know what I like to do, put a small billboard on the storage then nudge it up to where the depot is

Change the icon to what you're storing

And there you go, a clean way to display what you're storing

[glad drum]

#satisfactory-memes message -- in case you need a diagram of the dimensional depot system

[rough saffron]

i built a massive hypertube cannon accelerator thing and my friends can't use it, they always get stuck, would swapping from steam hosting to dedicated server fix this?

[limpid cairn]

possibly

depends on the ping would be my guess

did your friend try to spam e or use an autoclicker for the button?

[rough saffron]

yeah we spam E, he does the same thing as me but for some reason he gets stuck on the enterances and can't escape until i come deconstruct it

[limpid cairn]

mind sending a screen of the hypertube canon?

[rough saffron]

yup hold on

[rough saffron]

dont have image perms

[limpid cairn]

#screenshots

[limpid cairn]

can you try to give me a screenshot from above the hypertube canon?

[rough saffron]

no hoverpoack but ill try

[limpid cairn]

jetpack should work too no?

[rough saffron]

dont have

[hard ivy]

lookout tower?

[rough saffron]

i used big ladder

[warm crystal]

Hey anyone have any tips for a new player

[rough saffron]

brb

[limpid cairn]

can you try to remove the left hypertube and check if it works then?

[limpid cairn]

use foundatins, craft wood and grass into biomass and biofuel for the fuel gens

and if you dont understand something, ask in chat

[warm crystal]

Ok

[shy mulch]

do things one at a time, don't try to overcomplicate things by doing everything all together, read everything, collect things

[warm crystal]

Ok

[hard ivy]

if you made it this big already, you might as well make it linear and not bother with hypertube branches

[glad drum]

get the Blade Runners and a parachute for easier traversal of the map (you can use parachute to glide up slopes)

build how you want- if you dont feel like load balancing and just wanna progress and make elevator parts, you can focus on that and just be inefficient which is ok

[limpid cairn]

@shy mulch when will you slide me over your vip junctions

mine works half for some reason

[warm crystal]

Ok

[glad drum]

have fun 🙂

[shy mulch]

also, a common trap people fall into is looking at youtube builds and either getting overwhelmed and giving up, or just copying them blindly then have no idea how to fix it when it goes wrong. much better to learn and understand properly

[limpid cairn]

bro i dont understand pipes in this game

[shy mulch]

i saw someone else shared a perfect guide drawn in paint, just do that

[limpid cairn]

my pipe has a flow rate of 15m^3

[shy mulch]

if yours isnt working share what you have, see what might be wrong

[warm crystal]

Ok thanks I probably would have done smth like that

[limpid cairn]

the pipe next to it has a 600 one

[limpid cairn]

#screenshots message

right one isnt working left one is

[shy mulch]

can't see anything in that screenshot though 😛

need to see the layout of all the pipes

[limpid cairn]

#screenshots message good luck.

i found the issue

[rough saffron]

yo do u know any way i could fix the tube

[limpid cairn]

one pipe was connected into itself

[shy mulch]

what on earth is going on with that pipe that's highlighted, looks like it's looping into itself?

[limpid cairn]

no clue but id go ahead what with kyo said, build one without hypertube junctions

[limpid cairn]

i just saw bntw

😭

[rustic hare]

just keep the fluid systems simple and there wouldn't be any problems

[shy mulch]

straight up cannon is less hassle than an accellerator if you're looking for hypertube launching

[rough saffron]

we are broke in terms of power so thats why i wanted to do accelerator

[shy mulch]

if you can build an accellerator reliably then do that, but if you're having trouble with it, just do a cannon, can't really get those wrong

make more power then, it's very easy to scale power up

[rough saffron]

how many enterances should i have

the pipe goes from about

hold on ill put an image in #screenshots

[hard ivy]

you absolutely can build it wrong lol

[rough saffron]

anyone know how many enterances i should have in my thing?

[hard ivy]

depends how far you want it to send you

[rough saffron]

it goes into a really long tube so it dosen't matter ifd you go too fast or slow

but i want it to be quick, look in #screenshots

[azure lynx]

ive finally done it, i automated HMF. sure, its at 4.83 ppm, but its still something.

...now to make my train infrastructure actually good, and not just a giant, high floating loop track from my iron smelting area and the HMF factory

[hard ivy]

13-17 is usually how many I use

[rough saffron]

alright ill go for 15 then

[shy mulch]

I have 5 in a blueprint, stamp it once for slightly fast, twice for fast enough, thrice for light speed

[rough saffron]

i wanna use 16 each side but idk if i have enough power

do they constantly use 10mw or only when you approach them

[shy mulch]

always

[rough saffron]

shit

[shy mulch]

honestly that really isn't a lot of power, just increase your power generation a bit and you'll be fine

[rough saffron]

my man im still on coal power

[shy mulch]

how much power are you making and using atm?

[rough saffron]

making 1200, max cons 900, avg consumption 600

[azure lynx]

i dont really see the problem with using a Pioneer Body Accelerator™ if you set it up right.
make an accelerator loop at each entrance (preferably with a booster somewhere in the loop), a junction leading from the loop into the hypertube network, and obv the entrances needed.

best case scenario, you only need 3 entrances per side, and if you give it a couple seconds, it can match a cannon entrance

[rough saffron]

thats what i tried and it worked perfectly for me, but for some reason my friends always get stuck in it if they try to go any meaningful speed

[azure lynx]

the tubes do tend to suck in multiplayer from what i heard, you might wanna minimize distances between entrances in the loop and make it all level and centered

[rough saffron]

wdym centered

[fluid thunder]

Hey ive been having wierd issues with building things since the patch and not sure if im just missing something cause im newish to the game. but Catwalks don't snap the way they used to, where I could hold ctrl while aiming at the edge and rotate it one tick (to make smooth curves). now holding ctrl snaps it to other sections or the nearby foundation. and metal/ painted beams no longer alloow me to drag diagonally, they just snap along the horizontal or vertical planes

[azure lynx]

make sure each tube is directly in front of each other

[rough saffron]

wdym

i was planning on having it like

8 enterances > 180 curve > 8 more > 90 curve into norm pipe

[azure lynx]

lemme get a piece of paper to draw on rq

[dim flint]

They should really let us make bee suits.

[cunning siren]

Heyyyy y'all,

That cup of coffee hot?

[dull flare]

my sound just broke all of the sudden

[azure lynx]

look in #design-and-architecture

[dull flare]

half of the audio is missing

[rough saffron]

thats exactly what i did, we are all in diff countries so its prob just the ping

[shy mulch]

@rough saffron that's a long way, what are you going there for that you can't get where you started?

[azure lynx]

might be

[rough saffron]

turbofuel

lots of it

[azure lynx]

ah the obligatory "abuse the blue crater and make it into a turbofuel plant" strat

to skimp out on power consumption and space, i skipped the turbofuel and just fed the diluted fuel straight into about 55 250% generators

[shy mulch]

you said you were still at coal

[rustic hare]

it's becoming daily that I see this now

[azure lynx]

they might be planning to expand

[rough saffron]

yeah i have no oil production set up yet, im planning to

thats why i built the whole hypertube

[shy mulch]

or the 15x per day "hey guys, look at this amazing giant flat concrete slab I built with 288 generators on it running rocket fuel"

[azure lynx]

start with something small, go to the west coast and automate some basic rubber and plastic. if you have fuel gens unlocked, turn the HOR into fuel to get a small bump of power

[rustic hare]

atleast do something like Xaos's lightning chain lol

[azure lynx]

whats wrong with my grassfields slab of tiers 1-4 production 🙁

[shy mulch]

I don't watch a lot of youtube, I'll have to look that one up

[rustic hare]

channel is DrawingXaos btw

[wary perch]

Should do a demo of what it would be like if there was tea in the coffee cup instead of coffee

[wary perch]

Wouldn’t it be cool if there was the option to other liquids in the cup

[azure lynx]

would that make it Tea Stain Studios?

[atomic notch]

slab is boring cube is where its at

[azure lynx]

reject eucledian design, build on spheres

[shy mulch]

I've given up on making my giant converter look like an actual converter, accuracy is out the window, now I'm just building something vaguely the same shape and making the decoration up as I go along. not quite sure how I'm gonna do the angles of the main top piece yet

[rustic hare]

I used that build as an example cause it's not overly complicated, is still a block, but decorated to a level that's easily done

[atomic notch]

spheres are too hard to build

[grizzled cedar]

Anyone knows how to find this cave entrance? #screenshots message

[cunning siren]

Maybe there is an entrance from another spot? 🤷 Sometimes the entrances are sneaky and covered in vegetation or with a backdrop of vines on a rock to conceal the entrance from obvious spotting

[limpid cairn]

whats the best use of 2400 aluminium

[rustic hare]

imo al -> al casing -> fused frame -> pressure conversion cube -> pasta

🍝

[lament niche]

Sir, another bean has hit the factory

[limpid cairn]

kinda my thought tbh

but i need some alclad aluminium sheets

[cunning siren]

Ah yes, I remember this one. It is sneaky AF

[lament niche]

where's the blame hannah emote

[limpid cairn]

@rustic hare do i split 600-900 off the aluminium off for alclad sheets so i have them for later?

[rustic hare]

how can I know your factory and goals

[next plover]

Can someone please remind me where to go to make an enhancement request? I want storage containers with an editable "hot list" so I can easily dump the right things into it.

[limpid cairn]

idk good point

[unkempt blade]

Just respond confidently and decisively! That's how you get to be a ficsit executive

[limpid cairn]

thanks btw i found a reason for them

ill put 600 into sheets for now and later

and rest into casings

[rustic hare]

the top has a lot of composite angles, it's going to be hard @shy mulch it's looking great so far, but I think the side angles are 45 (8m roofs) and not the current 4m you are using?
#screenshots message

[grizzled cedar]

Me and my friend are rly unable to find that damn thing
Walked around the mountain multiple times on different elevation, cleared rocks and veegtation

[shy mulch]

hmmm maybe, I'll try a few things and see what looks best

[cunning siren]

Yea... It's probably the most sneaky one in the game IMO. I spent like 25min

[unkempt blade]

that's a completely bonkers amount of alclad for just building conveyors but if you have a recipe that'll consume some of it you could make some extra and just overflow it to a sink

[shy mulch]

if you hover your cursor over the cave enterance in SCIM I think it tells you the elevation

[cunning siren]

I don't recall the entrance being where you indicated though

[limpid cairn]

i have 420 per minute atm

[unkempt blade]

like 100/m alclad for conveyors is probably already more than you'll need unless you're building REALLY aggressively all the time

but it sinks for good points so go wild 😄

[spice patio]

Error in SCIM, that cave under the NW Dune Desert mountain doesn't exist.

[grizzled cedar]

for me not unfortunately
for everything else it does, but for some cave entrances not (and also for some caves that do still exist)

[spice patio]

Probably existed before Dune Desert redo, and has never been removed from SCIM.

[grizzled cedar]

Ty

[spice patio]

And will exist on the map until someone bothers to make SCIM bug report about it.

[cunning siren]

Whelp, nobody do that cuz we need to troll the noobs when the question comes up next time 😆

I was thinking it was the SAM node cave in that area

[spice patio]

And I did spend 30+ minutes glitching into the ground under that mountain to make sure long time ago.

[grizzled cedar]

ah no the sam one is way smaller, i already have a miner there too xD

[bronze dagger]

i wish there was a vertical lift for trains, like a track piece that vertically went up

imagine a tower hub with tons of moving parts

[shy mulch]

I do mine in a loop, inefficient but looks funky

There's tilted corner walls, and tilted concave walls, but neither fit what I need. I need to make a tilted corner wall but upside down, is there any way to do that?

[shut fractal]

how much playtime does everyone have here

[cunning siren]

I'm a train noob and I plan on keeping the train at the same altitude of 256m at all times and using infinite lift floor hole bug to transport to and from the freight platform

[shy mulch]

after I finish my homework until bedtime, EVERY NIGHT

[shy mulch]

I did that for my first large rail network, was a good learning experience but eventually I ended up making another one that follows the terrain

[leaden turret]

🚉
[belt lift]
[belt lift]
[belt lift]
[belt lift]
🚉

[cunning siren]

I did that a few times and it was fun, I don't use trains much and maybe this sky train idea will invite me to do so more

[shy mulch]

yeah definitely, there's no right or wrong way to do it, so do whatever way makes you happy 🙂

[oak sorrel]

For the power augemnter what is the brown box item name?

[ashen mauve]

@rustic hare not sure if being sarcastic or not. but huge inventory mod and increased stack size mod.

[cunning siren]

It's a sceret, click the sloop in the augmenter to find out

[rustic hare]

I was being sarcastic lol, the game basically punched my pillar under the game's floor and decided I needed to place 8 thousand pieces

[bronze dagger]

build train stations for your factory first then build the factory off of that > peak design and everything fits together

[oak sorrel]

wdym how?

[bronze dagger]

better than grid building imo

[cunning siren]

Try it

[oak sorrel]

oh xd

mb

[cunning siren]

😆

[ashen mauve]

how to build train sations first, when i dont have the materials from the factory to build the train station and lines 🤔

[cunning siren]

The sky train idea is nice and flexible and easy to change without having to deal with elevation issues. Or one can run belts everywhere 🤷 it's not that important as long as your hardware is up to it

[shy mulch]

urgh, this converter isn't big enough, I'm too far in to start again so I'll continue and hide some undernear or something

[cunning siren]

Check out the BigBeaverTV YouTube, dude routed every resource node on the map with belts 😆 0 trains

This was before blueprints merged too

[bronze dagger]

its for later factories, usually I just build my factories making starter materials (iron plates to like idk motors) near main storage/base

[cunning siren]

Dang... iron wire is nice AND it also requires 45x constructors to get a 1k belt 🤔 maybe I'll build this "off site" somewhere and bring in the cable and wire. That may help mah FPS due to 🥔 hardware

[limpid cairn]

was it a smart idea to use pipe manifolds?

probably not

did i still do it?

sadly yes

do i have rpoblems now?

yes

@shy mulch what do i do when my manifolds dont fill up properly

the 10th refinery doesnt get enough oil from the pipes

[cunning siren]

Liquid issues are pretty common due to how complex they can get 🤔

Working around the 600 throughput limit is a big part

[limpid cairn]

its not even 600

its 450

now it works after i removed the pipe to the 10th refinery

now i have to figure out how to get the other 6 refinery running

i found the issue i guess...?

[cunning siren]

How do you troubleshoot liquid issues? Learning how to do this is pretty essential for late game play

[limpid cairn]

i used vip junctions by accident

[limpid cairn]

you go around your factory and check what could possible be wrong

[cunning siren]

Yes that sounds good, knowing the step by step process is also helpful to not skip any of them

[shy mulch]

Loop the pipe. Make a pipe out of the last junction and feed it back into the first junction. Massively reduces sloshing

[cunning siren]

Is there an updated PDF document that shows all this stuff? I remember such a thing being a thing ~1 year ago

[limpid cairn]

guys

it wasnt a vip junction

it was an mk1 pipe

[cunning siren]

satisfactory.wiki.gg/images/Pipeline_Manual.pdf <--- here we go

[limpid cairn]

i were 3 mk1 pipes.

nope its 4 now

[night hornet]

No one would happen to have a extra key for satisfactory?

[hard ivy]

#rules

[limpid cairn]

#screenshots message like that?

[night hornet]

My bad

[limpid cairn]

15 fused modular frames per minute dont feel alot but are a lot

[cunning siren]

You useing heat fused frames?

[limpid cairn]

will be planning to use them

they consume less alumina

[undone flume]

So im still pretty new to the game
First time playing through
Im working on completing phase 2
But what i want to know is after i have all my constructors with rods, screws and plates im having a hard time organising all the assemblers so that they at least look neat, what do you guys recommend i do

I currently have rods, screws and plates all in an industrial storage and basically spaghetti to each assembler but i want to have a clean line of assemblers hopefully

[cunning siren]

It's hard to organize without at least T3 belts so... my recommendation is to plan to do a "quick and dirty" plan while using T2 belts and build "Slow and clean" once you get T3 belts

[undone flume]

T3 being mark3 ?

[undone flume]

Gotcha

I was thinking to just have a high output neatly built and build a small set of assemblers aside quickly

[cunning siren]

Holding CTRL while placing assemblers splitters mergers and containers can "snap" into alignment to the outputs and inputs for adjacent objects. This can help with "quick and dirty" builds

[limpid cairn]

agreed

t1 and t2 belts are possibly the worst belts in any game

t2 belts can only extract 100% clocked mk1 miners on a pure node

[undone flume]

Also what did you all do early game for ores that are far away from your main set up?

[limpid cairn]

belt a massive belt

im not in the truck game sadly

[undone flume]

I was thinking that but i did try the truck
Im too lazy to build a belt so far

[shy mulch]

If building a long belt is a problem for you, you're going to have a bad time in the endgame

[cunning siren]

Early game is kind of rough for distance so plan to keep as much as possible next to each other to lessen the time spent on "back and forth" trips between stuff. Also try and collect 42 quartz to resarch Blade Runners in the MAM ASAP

[undone flume]

😂😂😂

I appreciate the tips ill try that

[unkempt blade]

I'd try to combine it into stuff local to the ore and then belt it back if it gets you to a smaller quantity of items to handle

iron ore vs iron plates for example

[undone flume]

Yeah that makes sense too i could maybe try that

[cunning siren]

Yep, local production in relation to the resource nodes as much as possible is a good idea for the entire game IMO

[limpid cairn]

you can bunny hop for the early gaem

its equally as fast as blade runners

if not faster

[cunning siren]

Yea but slide jump + blade runners even better than that 😆

The jump height bonus is also super handy pre jetpack

Also fall DMG reduction can be helpful so... 🤷

[small notch]

is there any heavy modular frames alternates and if so any worth getting

[shrewd palm]

there are a couple ones

the best one i think is heavy encased frames because it gets rid of screws, if you dont want to get rid of screws theres also heavy flexible frame

[small notch]

alr thanks i dont like screws lol

[cunning siren]

It looks like they save "valuable resource" at the cost of complexity? 🤷 If you aren't doing a megabase maybe skip it? IDK

[shrewd palm]

yeah the regular one is fine if you dont mind screw hell

although heavy encased frame is like the exact same except instead of screws it uses concrete

[white dawn]

(Note that "screw hell" is easily avoided by just building screws directly in front of the machines that need 'em. If you just direct-feed screws, they're ezpz)

[small notch]

i dont mind screws i can js use steel screws but id rather not still

[white dawn]

(Not saying you shouldn't avoid screws if you want to, but "screw hell" is a factory design decision you don't have to make. :)

[cunning siren]

OH yea... if you have steel screws do that 100%

[small notch]

prob jjust do normal i dont like using concrete in recipes i avoid it when i can

[cunning siren]

Steel Rods even better than steel screws IMO 🤷

[small notch]

obv still got use encased beams but the less the better

[cunning siren]

A sloop in a single steel screws build goes a Looooooong way 😆

[white dawn]

The real reason to use Heavy Encased Frames isn't that it avoids screws, but that it's easier on resource usage overall (in general)

We always say not to compare recipes in isolation, but compare https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=HX28Os46fMKc1wHH0RVi (vanilla recipe) to https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=wpPjBHNodSSZlXiXAMso (heavy encased frame) :)

sftools tends to land on Heavy Encased in general so long as you've got it enabled. (Though, of course, use whatever recipe you like. It's your save! Can always switch it up on your next HMF factory. :)

[cunning siren]

"valuable resources" IMO depends on if you plan on "using them all". If that is not the case this game is ultra abundant resource wise 🤷 and what alt one uses is usually not resource relevant, it's more build complexity considerations

[limpid cairn]

just avoid screws all game

[prime jasper]

When my train meet face to face to turn to the exit on the right in a junction they seems to just both wait for the other one to pass first, so they wait forever unless I deactivate and reactivate self driving. Unlocking them is fairly easy since i just have to turn on and off self driving, but they lock each other often and I don't want to go back on this specific part of the map every 5 mins. How to fix it?

[limpid cairn]

i have 2 factories that needs screws

[limpid cairn]

send a screen

its probably signaling issue

[white dawn]

Eh, I see no reason to avoid screws specifically. If I'm after resource efficiency and avoiding screws accomplishes that goal, then sure, but it's not because of screws that I'm avoiding them

[prime jasper]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1416123104631193650

[white dawn]

The general hate that screws get is far overblown. In 98% of cases it's just because people didn't learn the lesson the game was trying to teach them. :)

If you don't like them because a screw-using recipe ends up being more resource-heavy than a non-screw-using recipe, that's one thing. But screws themselves pose no problems at all

Just don't centralize their production, basically

[lament niche]

CAN WE STOP TEACHING NOOBS THE SPACEBAR TAP TRICK FOR HAND CRAFTING?!?

You have no idea the amount of LEGO builds I went through to balance my Mercury Program Blueprints coffee mug on my space bar without touching any other keys between U3 and U5 before learning the trick on my own during a Community Save session

Let em figure out the tech or be taught the tech ingame by the pros imo

[rustic hare]

I just learned it myself in like phase 3 after days of not being able to pick up my phone whenever I craft because I have to hold down the spacebar

[limpid cairn]

dont worry for the first 40h of the game i was crafting everything with my mouse

yes i held down my moues button 1...

[tall lantern]

I just napped with my face on the keyboard

[lament niche]

yeah, 200h here. Not sure if the trick was well known or even an intended feature back then

Like, so many techs I know of I learned from streamers like Runesun and BLAndrew while they were participating in my Community Save Nights

bunny hopping was one I learned early on from Runesun

[cunning siren]

Who remembers when Crafting Bench Volume slider was not a thing? 😆 TING TANG TING TANG TING TANG 🤮

[rustic hare]

wdym you don't vibe to the sound?

[lament niche]

...there's a volume slider for it???

[undone pendant]

hey im trying to play satisfactory but its keeps on crashing randomly after a set amount of time any solutions?

[lament niche]

#1038092680493801533

[cunning siren]

I have to not overclock my video card durring the day 😭

At night it's cold enough to work apparently

[undone pendant]

my pc aint the issue tho

[cunning siren]

Ok, it sounds like you know the issue then?

[limpid cairn]

Send the crash code into #1038092680493801533

is your pc or the game crashing ?

[lament niche]

you can do it without macroable keyboards, tf u mean "with"?

[undone pendant]

well when it crashes it doesnt have a crash code

[lament niche]

are you playing modded?

[undone pendant]

no

[lament niche]

if not, it's usually a PC issue

[undone pendant]

wym

[desert bridge]

I got a screenshot I just posted regarding some foundation questions anyone got thoughts?

[limpid cairn]

Shhh

[lament niche]

Thanks.

[limpid cairn]

[limpid cairn]

Tbh you’re better off just going into #1038092680493801533 and ask there

[lament niche]

I miss when Jace and Snutt where CMs

Mikael is nice, but tbh he's kinda budget grade compared to J&S

It's like swapping from a overclocked 1080 to a underclocked 760

[limpid cairn]

I wasn’t around when Jace and snutt were community managers

[lament niche]

burn the heretic

oh god oh fuck, I jokingly DM'd jason just now asking when CSS was adding golf to the game, thinking he had his DMs turned off

NOPE, HIS DMS ARE ON

I'm dead

please bury me and plant a cherry tree on my corpse

a moon cherry tree if possible

WHY THE HECK IS JASON'S DMS TURNED ON

[limpid cairn]

I assume since it’s not his private account he hasn’t turned it off

so people can message him silly ideas to make more work

[lament niche]

@desert bridge move the rails further away from the 1x1 corner

[unkempt blade]

what a weird analogy for 2025

[small notch]

do trains transport power

[desert bridge]

the rails and stations can

[lament niche]

do I look like I can afford a 5080

or ANYTHING that has come out since 2019

[desert bridge]

if you hookup power at spot X and put a trainstation and rails all the way to wherever and pull a power pole off the opposite station power can transfer

[limpid cairn]

Kind of

The rails transport power

[limpid cairn]

A 5080 isn’t that expensive

[lament niche]

imo rails should be how you ground your power network, not a way to actually transport the power

[small notch]

ill put a power line down after but i just need the power to get it started

[limpid cairn]

Something you could message Jason for

[lament niche]

"700 isn't that expensive"
Also, I'd have to get a new mobo, so that's another $400-$500, and a CPU compatible with that mobo, so another $300-$500, plus clear pvc for redoing my water-cooling (which is another ($150-$200)

[unkempt blade]

I dunno, the guy just called him a 760. I'd probably disregard any opinions he has about the game if I were a CM

[lament niche]

and likely a new power supply

[lament niche]

I called *Mikael a 760

[desert bridge]

i put a screenshot in the channel, you can see i dont have any power lines going to the station in the far northwest corner but the well pressurizer is getting power via the train network

[limpid cairn]

Just buy a new pc at that point

[unkempt blade]

I stand corrected, but not about the ignoring your opinions part 😆

[lament niche]

my point exactly.

[small notch]

right i get it ty

[lament niche]

silence, you handcraft with the handcrafter volume off

[unkempt blade]

what an R600 thing to say to someone

[lament niche]

you literally prefer single phase power for your factory

its precious the 240v user is reacting to my burns

[jaunty jewel]

hi, has anyone else noticed a significant increase in gpu usage since 1.1? even on lowest settings my gpu is handling it like its on ultra

[scarlet storm]

never used turbofuel before. anyone know how much one generator uses per minute? trying to figure out how many refineries i need for max 360m3 of crude oil and 150/m compacted coal

[jaunty jewel]

i think 10.66 but its been a while

[zenith pecan]

I javen't used turbo fuel in ages, it used to be 4.5 back when I ran it 🤣

[hard ivy]

7.5/min@100%

[wicked nacelle]

Use a calculator if you don’t want to do the math yourself don’t ask other people to do it for you. That’s tacky

[jaunty jewel]

hes not asking for the maths, hes asking how much 1 generator uses

[wicked nacelle]

Even worse.

That’s just glancing at a wiki page

[limpid cairn]

25.6 with every perfect alt recipe

[scarlet storm]

dont have any alt recipes for it :/

[limpid cairn]

do you not have heavy oil residue and diluted fuel?

[worldly cove]

time to hunt drives

[limpid cairn]

how many hard drives are there even

[scarlet storm]

jeez 22.5 fuel per minute creates 18.75 turbofuel per min

all the latest alt recipes ive unlocked have been completely dog shit

[jaunty jewel]

is it so bad to just ask people a simple question

[limpid cairn]

Fuel is better than turbo fuel

Turbo just burns longer

[scarlet storm]

whys it better? i feel like your crude oil goes a lot longer w turbofuel

[jaunty jewel]

depends what alts you use

[red sun]

each generator burns 7.5 m3 per minute according to the wiki

[scarlet storm]

one refinery powers 1 fuel generator with fuel but can power like 3 fuel generators with turbofuel

[scarlet storm]

i looked at the wiki couldnt find that info

[wicked nacelle]

I sad “tacky” not “so bad”. And yes it’s tacky.

[red sun]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Fuel-Powered_Generator
there's a table here, under "Fuel consumption"

[scarlet storm]

the 20m3 of fuel i would use to power one normal fuel generator, i can split that into almost 3 turbofuel generators

[red sun]

i'd send a screenshot but i cba

[upper gale]

If it's tacky just don't answer their question

[jaunty jewel]

yea instead of whining about it

[wicked nacelle]

The fuel consumption numbers are cleverly hidden under the “fuel consumption” title

[scarlet storm]

np, i was using a diff wiki which is why it didnt show up haha, the fandom one

[red sun]

ah, don't touch the fandom one with a barge pole. it's not being updated anymore, we switched to wiki.gg a while back

[jaunty jewel]

there is really no need for this attitude lol

[wicked nacelle]

I just said it was tacky. Other people are the ones going crazy over it

[scarlet storm]

hahah i was just ignoring the idiot

[red sun]

man, it was a simple question. if you don't want to answer it then don't

[jaunty jewel]

good idea he seems hurt or something

[wicked nacelle]

Also the Turbofuel burn rate is in the fandom wiki too hidden under “turbofuel” title on the generator page

[jaunty jewel]

just let go of it dude

[wicked nacelle]

Dude is lazy and then lies about it. Pretty extra tacky if you ask me.

[red sun]

you finished?

[leaden turret]

build less, autosave goes faster

[feral geyser]

You can change it

In the menu

Autosave interval

[red sun]

you must have a huge save or something because it's always been pretty quick for me

i dunno man

[shy mulch]

or a slow disk

[red sun]

i've never had an issue with it, that's weird

[red sun]

seems more likely

i'm using arch, autosave has always been near instant and pretty seamless for me

[shy mulch]

I messed up my PC build, have a pcie4 drive but my motherboard only supports pcie3 so its kinda limited, also my factory is pretty huge, autosave completely stops my game for like 2-3 seconds

[shy mulch]

you forgot to say "btw"
the correct phrase is "i use arch btw"

[wicked nacelle]

Autosave time isn’t based on your disk it’s your ram/cpu. The time is in making the data to save not writing it to disk

[red sun]

apologies

either way it doesn't sound like something on the game's end

[zenith pecan]

My current save runs rocket fuel.

You've probably seen its 1.1tw output 🤣

[stark summit]

What's a raccoon?

[zenith pecan]

No clue, I'm sure fuel burners wouldn't burn solids.

Mine is pretty documented in my post history in this discord.

[glad drum]

Man, the "Curved" mode for pipes just straight up breaks if your pipe is straight up or down

[wicked nacelle]

You definitely have to adjust which mode you use as you change how you’re routing pipes. Same with belts.

[zenith pecan]

Just wait until I finish my projects, they'll break again.

Saves like mine probably helped a lot towards optimising the game.

[desert bridge]

@broken sparrow I tried that but it only does a tiny corner not the full part

[broken sparrow]

Dont know what to tell you then

[zenith pecan]

My current tunnel network has like 30% more objects than my old one due to small signs no longer projecting light, so I embedded billboards into the concrete.

[glad drum]

I just loved Curved mode so much 😢

[wicked nacelle]

Make sure you’re using the menu for switching build modes so it’s fast to switch directly to whichever one you want and then back to curved 🙂

[glad drum]

I'm probably just not gonna build it straight up or down, I need that sweet sweet curve

that way my pipes look like tentacles

[shy mulch]

you can put foundations at any angle you want, then put the wall on the foundation, then delete the foundation

[cursive totem]

is there a way to "pull down" pipeline ceiling mounts?

so they hang lower from the ceiliing

[jaunty jewel]

is there a way to turn off machines ctrl c + ctrl v copying settings as well

middle clicking not ctrl c ctrl v

[deep pier]

does sushi conveyers like supply an assembler or do the items need to come through diffrent inputs?

[stray herald]

Just built a SAM fluctuator factory, but forgot to tur nthe SAM into reanimated SAM, and I AFK"d for one hour...

[stray herald]

Yes they do!
However, you must supply EXACT item counts otherwise it'll cause buildup and eventually break

But yes you can feed it one belt only

[versed mesa]

Where can I find Sam and Hatcher remains please?

[hard ivy]

hatcher remains are from these:

!wikisearch hatcher

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=hatcher

[jaunty jewel]

kill it with fire

[hard ivy]

SAM is found as a resource node

[feral geyser]

Gas works too

[versed mesa]

Or ive nit found those yet

[jaunty jewel]

no its not destructive enough

kill it so there is no sign of life

[versed mesa]

So sam is resource mining area

?

[short stag]

Would've been cool if there were some parts that were dropped by popping the pinata

[hard ivy]

a node. like iron, limestone, etc

[versed mesa]

Yeah a mining spot i thought it mite be a sam creature or something lol

[hard ivy]

not those small rocks that can be minded by hand either. SAM doesn't have those. SAM is only found as nodes that can have a miner placed on them

[versed mesa]

Yeah thats cool when will I get that added to my scanner?

[hard ivy]

when you find it lol

or in tier 9

[versed mesa]

Damn

[hard ivy]

I highly recommend you find one way before that

[vale grotto]

You'll absolutely want it long before tier 9 though

[versed mesa]

Yeah i ain't sure where to find yet need to adventure out more

[short stag]

I'm spending way more time in the hub dancing than I'd like to admit

[vale grotto]

As soon as you get steel, SAM becomes one of the most useful things you can find, because of the research it unlocks

[vale grotto]

Check the tops of cliffs and the bottoms of caves

[versed mesa]

I do need it asap lol

[hard ivy]

you can use an online map to just find out where the nodes are, but if you don't want that, SAM is generally found in hard-to-get places

[vale grotto]

Definitely

[versed mesa]

Thanks guys

I'll try see if i can find tonight

[carmine aspen]

thers a node under a large rocky arch, that one is really easy to get to

[versed mesa]

Or really

@carmine aspen I see something thats almost like arch like 2 big pillars tilting into each other

Should I try there ?

[carmine aspen]

its just the arch, and its a big one, in the grassier parts of the map

bottom lef tof the map

[versed mesa]

Ok thanks ill look

[carmine aspen]

its super dagerous to get to the node so best bring some mats to build your way to it

[versed mesa]

Whats mats ?

[carmine aspen]

MATerials

[versed mesa]

Ah yes

Like building conveyor to get to it

Or something

Abd to build mining spot

I just need to craft 247 smart skating then I can send off stage 2 so thats what am working on now

[vale grotto]

I usually use a big tower of foundations with a ladder on the side or a line of ramps

[versed mesa]

Alright cool ill wirk on it when it comes to it

@carmine aspen how big is this arch exactly?

[shy mulch]

Who's good at designing and architecture here?

[carmine aspen]

its as wide as the space elevator, maybe even wider, and just as tall

[versed mesa]

Ah OK thanks

I do see something that I mite check out soon

[sleek token]

Ugh....I was having so many issues with my oil refineries getting 600m^3/min that I finally made a pressure tower and now all my issues are resolved

[shy mulch]

I'm gonna stick to this channel. The people on design and architecture are so unhelpful

[sleek token]

that channel is more for just showing off builds

[shrewd palm]

you might be able to do something with the corner ramps for that converter build

but im not much of a builder and that looks really hard to do in vanilla, best of luck!

[shy mulch]

I've tried every piece and can't make anything fit. Was hoping to find someone who's done something similar

[shrewd palm]

there is one guy here that does a lot of stuff with spheres

or makes really big ones or something

but i dont remember who

[shy mulch]

Hopefully he finds my post 😛

[tame marlin]

how much energy do pumps cost

[shrewd palm]

4MW for mk1 and 8MW for mk2

basically enough to be irrelevant

[shy mulch]

Two people responded to me in the design channel. First one suggested I don't bother at all. Second one showed me something completely different that he made with mods after I specified what I was trying to do and said I don't want mods, and told me I should do that instead of the thing I was trying to do.
Whats even the point in such suggestions

[wintry moth]

do you guys recommend starting a playthru with all alternative recipies unlocked? i just finished a playthru with my gf and a friend, also have a lot of playthrus that i have cut short because of big updates back in beta so i've explored the whole world several times already.

I wanted to start a longer playthru on my own that but i always felt exploration for the sake of hard drives was kind of annoying the 5th time you do it but i don't know how much this setting changes the experience

[frail sleet]

I think it's a valid way to play and probably more fun if it's just you playing for the 5th time

hard drives are a little too sparse and the 10min research time a little too annoying IMO

[shy mulch]

Honestly do whatever makes you happy. Sounds like unlocking all the alts straight away isn't count to detract from your specific playthrough experience in this case

[wintry moth]

yeah it's honestly the 10m thing that annoys me the most, more so if i'm looking for a specific recipe that i know exists for the next project but i can't start it because i have to take my two hour hard drive beeline moment to get it

[sleek token]

valves

[shrewd palm]

im not a pipe expert but that i think would work

use 2 mk1 pipes and then the overflow (which will hopefully be 150) goes into another

[carmine aspen]

its odd how every other thing takes only 3 seconds where the drives take 10 minutes

[sleek token]

Just follow the pipe guide

[shrewd palm]

they've worked fine in my experience

it should be able to split how you want

[sleek token]

well....to be honest when I replied I thought you were using 600m3 pipes but then i looked at your screenshot

[shrewd palm]

ive done things like that in the past and they usually work

[sleek token]

as long as you keep the pipes full you should be good

[shrewd palm]

i feel like it would be better just to keep it in 3 250 pipes

[sleek token]

if I were you i'd just overclock the extractors to 300m3 each....but i don't know if that's an option you want.

[stray herald]

20 coal per diamond 😭

[shrewd palm]

#1 thing for pipes is to keep it simple

one of the #1 things anyways

[shy mulch]

The real answer might be that you don't need to. What is using the water, what machines specifically is it going to and how much does each use

[stray herald]

Which Diamond recipe is everyone's favorite?

[shy mulch]

I mostly use the limestone one

[stray herald]

Yeah I was thinking it's either that or the oil

I have to find the alts tho

[shy mulch]

I also use the oil one and the turbo fuel one, but they are specific circumstances

[shrewd palm]

i like the oil diamonds, im using it for one of my phase 5 factories

the other one i think is using all the coal in the red desert which will be fun

[stray herald]

I am just getting started on diamonds so I am not sure how many I need

[shrewd palm]

if you're not following any particular kind of plan i'd just start with a larger amount and then work from there

they tend to overflow into everything

[shy mulch]

Depends a lot on what your goals are. Your main use case will be for dark matter crystals, and the most efficient way to make those is with the time crystal alt, because SAM will be the bottleneck

[shrewd palm]

one more pure node of sam would be nice but only having 10200 is fun to work with ig

[stray herald]

Okay I see

[shrewd palm]

prevents things from getting too out of hand

[stray herald]

I am only using 600 SAM currently making 25 fluctuators

From one node

[shy mulch]

Yeah I'm using every SAM node already but some of them aren't fully utilised so I'll have a big task rearranging things around to see what I've actually got available. My coal is getting a bit tight now too

[stray herald]

And that;'s for Phase 5 or just personal objectives?

[hearty plank]

I'm a trained pain in the ass so imma just bug you guys here to please look at my thread (dw, only asking once XDD) #1416169967786790942

[shrewd palm]

i think once im done with phase 5 i'll have a couple thousand to play around with

although i wont have anything to use it on

[shy mulch]

Way beyond phase 5. Just building big for fun

[stray herald]

Okay I figured xD

I am so used to the first person view that seeing my character next to a power pole makes me look like a smurf lol https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1416172083578404874

[fluid sapphire]

really puts into perspective just how gigantic everything is

[shy mulch]

yeah the golden nut statue looks small but it's bigger than the pioneer haha

I'm not gen-z enough to know what that react means 😛

[sterile blade]

We're so tiny

[shy mulch]

aha ok

[cunning siren]

Made a 1k wire build... why? IDK 🤷 😆

[fluid sapphire]

good for loading dimensional depot when you are building power banks

[ionic forge]

Never knew what wire was for apart from cables for power poles

[fluid sapphire]

i have one that makes 1200

[shy mulch]

I have no idea how much wire I'm making

but now you've made me wonder, so I will find out

[fluid sapphire]

lots of things, stitched plate, stators, steel rotors.. a bunch of alts in general, and buildables

[cunning siren]

To be fair wire is used in a lot of stuff, I do not currently have a lot of stuff though, so that is the joke

[fluid sapphire]

train related stuff

[shy mulch]

What's the entity limit?

[fluid sapphire]

wire was one of the first things i set up after my reset

[shy mulch]

ok im safe for a while

just googled it, 2.1 million objects, I'm only at 350k 😄

[shy mulch]

According to SCIM, I'm making 12178.5 per minute and using 11562.5 per minute

[cunning siren]

Oh dang megabase build.... noice

[shy mulch]

Plenty people have made far larger, but this is as big as I'm going for now

[cunning siren]

What's your rate?

[shy mulch]

My main base is turned off at the moment, because I'm restructuring some of it, it does 20/min BWD. My old base is still running at 5/min

Whatever coupons that works out at

[cunning siren]

57,906,680 from BWD alone Daaaaayum

My computer would poop it's pants with your save

[sullen gull]

14476670/min points for 5/min BWD

[versed mesa]

Ive found Sam

[shy mulch]

yeah that sounds about right, I think it's a running bit over than that atm cos of random junk getting sunk all over the place

[versed mesa]

It was in the location wmwhat look tobe an arch it was right at the bottom

Now I need to figure out how to get back up lol

[cunning siren]

Are there any console commands that show what is eating performance like in Factorio? 🤔

[smoky nimbus]

is there any way I can get rid of uranium rocks?

[shrewd palm]

you can just sink it or throw it into the trash

only radioactive things you cant sink are waste

[smoky nimbus]

no the rocks

not the ore

[shrewd palm]

oh those?

you should just be able to mine them but you need a radiation suit and iodine filters

same as any other rock

[stray herald]

Oh yeah

Just got a rifle with 900 bullets, time to spread efficiency

[smoky nimbus]

automate homing ammo 🙏

[stray herald]

Does it do more damage too?

[smoky nimbus]

yeah, and higher clip size

[stray herald]

Beautiful

[smoky nimbus]

needs high speed connectors tho

[left mauve]

why is my sink not sinking?

it has power

[stray herald]

No power or unsinkable item

[left mauve]

and no unsinkable items

[stray herald]

What are you trying to sink?

rebuild the belt

[left mauve]

doesnt help

[smoky nimbus]

what are you sinking

[left mauve]

rebuilt the sink as well

everything

[smoky nimbus]

wdym everything

[stray herald]

What is the first item on the belt

[left mauve]

iron plates up to synthetic shards

[smoky nimbus]

you can't sink power shards

[left mauve]

ahh lol

thats annoying

[stray herald]

Do animals respawn?

[left mauve]

i guess the shard containers just filled up then

[smoky nimbus]

hostile ones don't

[left mauve]

and thats why my entire factory crashed

[stray herald]

oh idk which lol I have the game on passive
I'll just hunt around the map. Thanks!

[sterile blade]

Forces you to process the shard further to be able to sink them 😆

[left mauve]

im just gonna give them their own container and let the ingredients overflow to the sink instead

its all on one belt anyways

[sterile blade]

A silent ticking bomb

[left mauve]

no im disconnecting them from the main sushi belt now

[left mauve]

the bomb already went off lol, i went to the supermarket with the game open to let my containers fill up, and when i came back all my batteries were dead and my fuel plant has no iron and all my drones are locked

[cunning siren]

OH man, this game has HDR support through a console command! r.HDR.EnableHDROutput 1

[wicked nacelle]

til

[cunning siren]

Looks great!

[wicked nacelle]

did you know you can skip the warning screens by holdin gdown alt as soon as the game window opens? 🙂

[left mauve]

ah that wasnt too bad just had to manually deliver some iron plates and disconnect the power shards and now everything is working again

[cunning siren]

That's so strange to me that HDR is a console command and not in the settings 🤷 oh well, either way great find 4 me!

[lament niche]

"KHAAAAAAAAN!!!" ass screenshot
#screenshots message

[wicked nacelle]

presumably because it's not supported

[lament niche]

if it's in the console, it clearly is.

[cunning siren]

Dayum, now I want a burger!

[wicked nacelle]

no, that's why it would be hidden in a console command

[stark summit]

isn't that just UE5 doing the HDR?

I saw zero difference

[wicked nacelle]

it depends if it's just "up-brightening" everything to HDR levels or actually doing selective HDR

[cunning siren]

Works great for me 🤷 IDK

[lament niche]

no, if it wasn't supported, it wouldn't be in the console at all.

I literally program in structural text, ladder logic, AND G&M style languages

[stark summit]

I also have shitty HDR on my monitor

[wicked nacelle]

not supported meaning if you have problems with it, they don't care. Obviously there is code for it.

[stark summit]

but i can see it in Monster Hunter Rise.

[lament niche]

again, they wouldn't implement it at all if that was the case

especially not in a console command

[wicked nacelle]

It may just be something they're working on and are allowing people to try it. This isn't that complicated

[lament niche]

oh, so they DO care?

[wicked nacelle]

if it were fully supported it would be in the menu system like all the other supported options (and lighting which is only semi-supported)

No one said the word "care" - what are you talking about?

[lament niche]

if they didn't care, it wouldn't be supported.

[lament niche]

oh so we're trolling now

[wicked nacelle]

??

sigh. if it works for people that's great. If you file a bug, don't hold you breath.

[lament niche]

Hate 13 y/o script kiddies who think they know what they are talking about when they don't and then try to get you on dumb gotchas when they realize they are talking to someone who actually knows what they are talking about

[stark summit]

wow, aggressive.

[hearty plank]

wtf is this convo about?

[lament niche]

HDR being a console command and not a setting

[cunning siren]

Dolby Vision has been removed from HDR options in windows 😭

[lament niche]

F

[hearty plank]

on windows?

[cunning siren]

Yea Dolby Vision has made my cheap ass TV look fantastic! 😭

[lament niche]

but also, Windows has been making some questionable choices anyways recently. Like slowly getting rid of Control Panel

[lament niche]

In Satisfactory application itself

[hearty plank]

aha

[cunning siren]

Is there a startup file that I can add the HDR console command to or will I need to paste the command in every time manually?

[lament niche]

Like, CSS wouldn't just willy nilly add a console command if they didn't plan to support it, and then the guy I was arguing with was trying to play 20 theories on why he's right and only he's right

[lament niche]

Do .bat files even work with Satisfactory's console?

[cunning siren]

IDK

[lament niche]

You could probably write a mod to automatically apply the setting for you tbh

[cunning siren]

I can macro it ez

[lament niche]

fair

[cunning siren]

Looks like there is a Engine.ini though, i'll give that a try

[lament niche]

let us know how it works out

[coral glacier]

The Universe

let that Sink in.

[coral glacier]

Last i checked, crab hatchers do respawn. Unless i'm mistaken 🤔

[wintry moth]

how do i mute the aniversary music

in the thingy, it's too loud

[smoky nimbus]

❌

[smoky nimbus]

disable seasonal events in settings

[coral glacier]

Master Volume = 0 (This also mutes everything else )

[coral glacier]

They do not?

[wintry moth]

accessibility or in what tab?

[lament niche]

all of them do unless you have a powered building nearby, such as a miner or constructor or something

[coral glacier]

Options > Gameplay > Disable Seasonal Events

[wicked nacelle]

yeah, but don't forget you turned that on if you want to play ficsmas or whatever

[shrewd palm]

TIL the pure copper recipe makes less than the pure iron one

[wicked nacelle]

no, more, right?

it's 2.5x vs like 1.8x

or you mean per refinery?

[coral glacier]

You with with your alternate recipes

[shrewd palm]

just checking the ratios, i mean that it makes less/min from one refinery than the iron

[hard ivy]

pure copper makes 2.5 ingots per ore, pure iron makes 13/7 or 1.86

[wicked nacelle]

sure, but this is a game about rates not counts

[coral glacier]

Ohhh, production rates, not alt recipes, haha

[shrewd palm]

it becomes about machine count eventually

[wintry moth]

thx thx thx

[lament niche]

both actually

[hard ivy]

BPs make that trivial

[shrewd palm]

BPs dont help performance tho

[lament niche]

for a moment I thought you said battle passes lmao. God Overwatch has ruined me

[wicked nacelle]

refinery count doesn't impact performance enough that you're going to make/break playing the game -- especially if you overclock them.

[coral glacier]

I usually set a number, like x being the number of reactors i want producing power and do the math backwards for the production line.

It'd be cool if there was a way to switch conveyor direction like train tracks 🤔

[left mauve]

you wanna build 1280 pure copper refineries for me? i can set up a server

[wicked nacelle]

this woul dmake blueprints SOOO much more useful

[shrewd palm]

i need over 2k buildings for my phase 5 factory, and refineries are going to be about half of that (this is just the count from tools, no overclocking in this count)

with overclocking its still probably going to be more than my nuclear plant

[wicked nacelle]

yes, that's not a large amount of buildings especially after you divide by 2.5.

[shrewd palm]

and that alreay gets my fps down to below 20

[lament niche]

you can build blueprints with conveyors going the other way

[coral glacier]

Yeah but that takes up twice as much space

[lament niche]

memory, maybe, but not space

[wicked nacelle]

the number of belt direction permutations for a complex blueprint is rather high. a switch direciton option would be very useful

[tacit ocean]

Blueprints are so useful

[coral glacier]

It'd like to be able to switch the direction of ore mined from a miner, to whatever factory that is designed to automate a specific item.
And once i have what i need from that factory, i can re-divert those materials to another factory.

Sheesh, my grammar is dying. 🤣

[lament niche]

#screenshots message

[spare ruin]

I just completed the game, so I finally started playing around with blueprints. lol

[shrewd palm]

honestly surprised you made it that far without them

[wicked nacelle]

isn't that just called a smart splitter?

[coral glacier]

Shrrrrubbry

[lament niche]

why would you want to switch the direction of a conveyor... when you can just split from a conveyor?

[spare ruin]

really? It just saves you time. right?

[shrewd palm]

it saves a LOT of time

[coral glacier]

I did not say conveyor, i said direction of ore.

[wicked nacelle]

for some it changes fundamentally how you build

[lament niche]

back in my day, blueprints didn't exist unless you save edited using scim

[spare ruin]

heh, I just play to relax.. so I wasn't in too much of a hurry.

[tacit ocean]

It happens, I use blueprints a lot for making scalable factories and to help make aerial conveyors

[lament niche]

why would you want to send ore back to a miner? lmao

[shrewd palm]

blueprints also make taking things down a lot faster

you just press r and then a few seconds later you can get rid of an entire factory and get right to building a new one

[spare ruin]

I've been trying to create a bp for railway foundations, but that didn't really pan out. Been trying to upgrade my tracks.

[coral glacier]

You're misunderstanding me, nevermind.

[spare ruin]

although I love trains, setting railway foundations is tedious.

[tacit ocean]

you should be able to get railway blueprints online, I saw some on a calculator site or something

[spare ruin]

oh, I think that I saw that in some post.

[wicked nacelle]

care with railway blueprints though, sometimes they can look connected but not be.

[spare ruin]

ooof

[wicked nacelle]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/blueprints

if you use them and things are weird, just try manually driving your train down the rail and see if it works or derails

[tacit ocean]

it never auto connects between newly built stuff

[spare ruin]

heh, I also just learned about the middle mouse wheel... that had me 🤦‍♂️

that would have saved me so much time.

[smoky nimbus]

you played the game without using the pick tool?

fear

[spare ruin]

yeah, can you believe that?

[wicked nacelle]

what is the difference between an oversized blueprint (on the modded 16x16 or whatever machines) and a megaprint?

[tacit ocean]

legend

[lament niche]

there's no point to switching conveyor directions

[lament niche]

get the megaprinter mod. it's fantastic for this

[lament niche]

...there's a pick tool

[spare ruin]

I want to play vanilla. thx though

[smoky nimbus]

middle click something my friend

[lament niche]

it even uses the ingame blueprinter model tho, and vanilla mechanics?

it's literally just a bigger blueprinter

[wicked nacelle]

ah, it seems megaprints must be applied in SCIM - that's the difference

[lament niche]

not if you use the megaprinter?

SCIM megaprints and megaprinter megaprints aren't the same

[cunning siren]

Bigger blueprints? How do I do that?

I can't seem to get the regular belt blueprints to merge 😭

[hearty plank]

since elevators are already in the game, the community shouldnt care if i default to linear motion instead... right?

[tacit ocean]

you have to manually merge them

[hearty plank]

-# there is always a mod

[cunning siren]

Oh? Where?

[hearty plank]

just search auto merge or similar

ez find to the point where i cannot be asked to go onine for 2 secs :P

[wicked nacelle]

are you just talking about "autoconnect" feature?

you have to build in one of the two autoconnect modes

[lament niche]

wait, isn't that a feature in 1.1 now

silence, U5er, I as a U3er have the high ground

[tacit ocean]

never worked for me when manually building a factory

[lament niche]

it's only been a thing since July

[cunning siren]

I can not seem to get it to work?

[tacit ocean]

like replacing down a container you have to re-do the connections

[lament niche]

it's got a special mode when placing blueprints called auto-connect

[cunning siren]

Ok

[lament niche]

I'm looking at the patch notes right now for 1.1

just press R while building a blueprint

[cunning siren]

Yep, it works

Very nice

[dense violet]

are you trying to connect belts or splitters?

ah good

[cunning glade]

So conveyer lifts don't directly feed into machines well that's my bad for thinking they would

[shrewd palm]

they do?

[cunning glade]

That's what I thought too but if not if there built too close or whatever

[shrewd palm]

they can be a little weird but that weirdness comes from floor holes

[cunning glade]

Idk the rubber part goes into the refinery but doesn't take anything out

So having too redo the whole setup for the output cuz idk

Which sucks cuz now it clips into my pipe

[shy mulch]

Take the lift from the machine and down/up from there, rather than trying to connect it into the machine

Will make it easier

[cunning glade]

And conveyer belt is too steep I'm gonna kms

[shy mulch]

Why make it angled at all, use lifts to go up and down

[cunning glade]

It isn't

It's on a foundation flat and has the green line into the machine

[cunning glade]

This worked ty may look worse but we will see

[shy mulch]

If it was flat and on the same level it wouldn't be too steep, that doesn't make sense

[cunning glade]

Better than redoing 60 refineries

[cunning glade]

That's what I think

I'll take a photo

[shy mulch]

When building machines etc, leave more space between them than you think you need, so there's always room to adjust if things don't go the way you think they will, without needing to move any machines

[dense violet]

you have to listen for the tell tale 'click' when you make a true connection. If that happens doesn't matter how close it is

[cunning glade]

Music I cant hear the game

[cunning glade]

Normally I do #screenshots I figured this would work tho

[dense violet]

RIP. then you won't know when you've made proper connections as you're having issues

can't complain you don't know when a connection is true then

[unkempt blade]

I also didn't realize this was a thing 😆

[cunning glade]

I mean normally I don't this is the one time I've had issues

With this atleast