satisfactory

[blissful atlas]

ohh? so i lock its holo then nudge it all the way down?

[plucky plank]

i just found about radio control system so ill probably use that, alot less oil comapred to base recipe

i want to save my quartz

[sterile blade]

Pounds

[sullen gull]

Then, you'd have to start the lift and then run out/in to connect it to the other side.

[blissful atlas]

i see thanks

tbh only reason im doing this is cuz idw to have a super long conveyer going all the way round

[sullen gull]

As others have said, and I do myself, bring it out via train

[feral geyser]

i have a setup for you

[plucky plank]

is there a website/app where you can plan your whole world while it counts how many resources are left available

[blissful atlas]

ye not there yet and i think conveyers are faster/ more consistent?

[blissful atlas]

prty sure 90% resources are infinite
only things that arent inifnite that comes to mind are healing items and biomass
mercer spheres and slugs and sloops too

[plucky plank]

i mean like if im using 600 iron from one note it will tell me how miuch iron is left in the world for use after putting a miner on that node

[blissful atlas]

scim

[shy fog]

something math like just went poof...

[feral geyser]

2 refineries (81/min crude in total)
-one on Polymer Resin recipe at 100%
-one on Heavy Oil Residue Recipe at 70%
= 48/min HOR + 144/min PolyRes

1 Blender at (96%)
-> 48/min HOR + 96/min H2O = 96/min Fuel

3 Refineries at 80% ( or 1 at 240%)
-> 144/min PolyRes + 48/min H2O = 48/min Plastic

2 Constructors @ 80% (or 1 at 160%)

• 48/min Plastic = 96/min Canisters

3 Packagers at 80% (or 1 at 240%)
--> 96/min Packaged Fuel

all in all
81/min Crude + 144/min H2O in
96/min Packaged Fuel out
NO byproducts or sinks

(edit: the screenshot #screenshots message shows a Mk 2 blueprint i made that has: 1 Ref on HOR, 1 Ref on PolyRes, 1 Ref on Residual Plastic, 1 Constructor on Canisters, 1 Packager on Packaged Water, and 1 Ref on Diluted Packaged Fuel)

@dim dock

[crystal siren]

scim does not tell you how much of a node is left (except if you use a miner with exact underclock to whatever you're using)

I always place miners and overclock them to 250% so I don't have to go there later to do it when I need more

[feral geyser]

you can do it in 6 buildings

[sullen gull]

@blissful atlas : #screenshots message . Only reason numbers are low is because I'm not doing anything with the resources yet.

[dense violet]

you can create a spread sheet pretty easily.
just input what resources your factory uses and it can auto reduce

[feral geyser]

81 crude + 96 water in, 96 packaged fuel out, no byproducts

[dense violet]

but you can't use every resource i nthe game anyway. Your computer will catch fire

[sullen gull]

Or ... just use Modeler. 🤷‍♂️

[dim dock]

i'll test it out once i unlock the recipe

[plucky plank]

im planning on it

[plucky plank]

does the modeller have that feature

[feral geyser]

i could make a blueprint and send it if you're interested?

[shy fog]

I hear boss music in the form of "Hold please"

[dim dock]

of course, if you have the time

[sullen gull]

As long as it has at least one source input, it will calc everything else if that's what you mean?

[feral geyser]

also, eat it @boreal musk

[sullen gull]

But, I also have an outpost setup with the world resources... (Copied the idea from another though, so won't take credit)

[sterile blade]

You should probably ask @unkempt blade

[open viper]

I had just fallen asleep

So tomorrow

[coral glacier]

Tinker, what's the keys to move the pipe junction vertically?

[sterile blade]

You might want to turn off notification when you're sleeping :P

[sullen gull]

Pg-up and Pg-dn for me.

After H (Hold)

and then Ctrl for 1/2 nudge

[shy fog]

some people tend to build a pipe first then throw a junction onto the pipe, but don't forget to reconnect afterwords

[coral glacier]

I got the painted beam down, i can move the junction Back/Forth Left/right, but i can't move up/down 🤔 Then again i am on a laptop.

[sullen gull]

Read back a ways 😏 This is to line it up perfectly with extractors.

[sullen gull]

Do you have a Page Up and Page down key?

[shy fog]

yes... I still connect a pipe, figure out where I want a junction, put it there, delete the pipes, rebuild the pipes

[coral glacier]

I do

i tried pressing shift then the pg keys, but that didn't seem to work either

[sullen gull]

But with snapping it to the pipe, there is no way to "snap" it center.

[sterile blade]

Eh, sometimes you can still snap to other things while snapping onto a pipe

[outer scarab]

I have been looking at this ramp for 30 mins and cant figure out why there is a gap....

[sullen gull]

Some laptops have a "function" or media key that changes the function of those? But, also, show a screen of how you're snaping to the beam?

[shy fog]

accidental deletion Talo?

[dense violet]

I'm not kidding. Your computer will crash out before you do that.

[shy fog]

in the case of pipes... if I want two pipes to cross I build two pipes that cross...

afterwhich I put the junction in place, and replace the pipe aftewords

[coral glacier]

Oh wait a minute

[shy fog]

It's not hard, I could do it in about 2 minutes...

[coral glacier]

🤦‍♂️

[sullen gull]

Figure it out?

[coral glacier]

i thought i did, but no

🤣

[sullen gull]

Could try to remap the keys if for some reason your pg up/dn keys aren't being seen 🤷‍♂️

[sterile blade]

Try applying that to some sushi next

[sullen gull]

J/K or something maybe.

[hollow halo]

anyone know how to change the color of your whole entire factory?

[shy fog]

here: #screenshots message

[hollow halo]

like in just one go?

[coral glacier]

Yeah i'll try that

[shy fog]

quick, easy, simple, place pipes and get them lined up method

and it even lets me put in the junction

[sterile blade]

Try messing with the "default" swatches 😉 (you can change what swatch is used as default for what items too)

[outer scarab]

the first color changes everything

[sullen gull]

That does not achieve what they are going for. They want it to line up with extractors.

[shy fog]

what prevents them from building a pipe OUT of an extractor?

[sullen gull]

@real anvil like so

#screenshots message

Because extractors are not at the same level as the smallest std mount

[coral glacier]

Worked! :D

Thanks Tinker

[shy fog]

ah... so you want the water lined up with the pipe rather than the pipe lined up at the water...

[coral glacier]

That helps a lot you have no idea. Or mabye you do, idk, but thanks :P

[sullen gull]

And, crossing the pipes like that, all that does is snap the junction to one or the other, you still have to "align" the junction one way or the other. . It doesn't snap to both.

[shy fog]

one sec...

[sterile blade]

If you know where (on a foundation) the pipes are, you can place a junction on the ground along one pipe and snap the junction along the pipe in the right place by having it CTRL-snap off the junction on the ground. Avoids having to visually align them and actually snaps things in the "perfect" place (so long as the pipes are snapped based on the foundation too)

[stray herald]

Man I love railroads
I only have one train active but it's so fun to design intersections and branches

I've almost got rails around the entire map

[sullen gull]

Not with the junctions. They snap "higher" than an extractor sits on a foundation that is 1m above the water line.

[sterile blade]

I didn't mention Extractors, I just commented on "how to junction between 2 pipes" ^^

[stray herald]

Do you folks use some sort of centralized storage hub or just stick to dimensional storage?

[sterile blade]

A central storage gives me peace of mind

[sullen gull]

Ahh, well yes, again, if you want them at a height greater than the extractors though still. Otherwise, you would have to use the "beam trick" for the perpendicular direction, again, only if you want them the same height as the extractor as they are trying to achieve.

[shy fog]

talking like this exactly?#screenshots message

[stray herald]

Could you show me yours if you have one/ are able to show it?:)

[shy fog]

pipes lined up exactly at the height of the extractor

[sullen gull]

This is where it started : #screenshots message ..... This is how I suggested they do it: #screenshots message .

[real anvil]

Huh?

[sterile blade]

I don't get why you're talking Extractors to me
The thing I explained is just to have an easier time aligning junctions; what you align them to doesn't matter, so long as one knows their position in "foundation units" (ie: item 1 sits at 1/4 of a foundation, item 2 at 3/4 or whatnot). Wether one item is a pipe or an Extractor doesn't quite matter

[shy fog]

... my internet sucks, video will take time to load up...

video seen... building it in reverse still

[sterile blade]

What's up with responses not responding? 😭

[stray herald]

That's odd lol

[sterile blade]

The last I built was focused more on looks than functionality (ie: it came out quite big just so it could be walkable and with accessible/easy to see beltwork). It might not serve well as an example 😅
But yeah, I can link some #screenshots if you wish

[stray herald]

Sure! If it's not a hassle:)

[sterile blade]

Ofc not!

[stray herald]

You the 🐐

[stray herald]

Average sushi belter

[shy fog]

#screenshots message I did this by building the merger first on foundation, deleting the foundation, then placing both water extractors

[sullen gull]

@real anvil That isn't "in line" The junction is still "higher" than the outputs.

[blissful atlas]

@sullen gull oh lol i found a even better way to guarantee the lift pos
just alt right click the middle of location then go up to surface and put the hole in the same spot
just highlight the location and it will appear on the surface

[solemn crystal]

hey guys who the hell is griddy man and why is he trying to join my server

[shy fog]

I do not think I can get any closer than this...

[sullen gull]

Again, if you check my vid from earlier ... you can 😏

[shy fog]

I'm not trying to be microperfect to the pipes being exactly 1 micron apart though... but I did line them up at the same height

[sullen gull]

But "THEY" were lol.

And, again, after playing around, that was the one way that got them 'dead-nuts'

[sterile blade]

This is the outside, you can find some screenshots of the inside just a few messages above #screenshots message
For perspective and context: that is a "creative" build, aiming at looks rather than ease of building, trying to prioritize beauty and logistical access first. Eg: everywhere can be reached with a factory cart; all splitters can be interacted with without having to leavd the "walkways" or jumping around; the Manta doesn't clip! and stuff like that...

[shy fog]

it is as close as I can get with no keyboard action to alter heights of anything

[stray herald]

Wow

How do you even plan that

You got a Master's in architecture?

[sullen gull]

@sterile blade and @real anvil , this is to what I am referring. Ctrl nudge of the foundations or items (and, technicallyy you'd need a foundation as the std pipline support needs the "stable surface") The pipes aren't "aligned" : #screenshots message

[sterile blade]

Again, I wasn't talking about connecting Extractors 😅
I understand that you were looking to solve one specific situation; that's not what I was commenting on

[solemn crystal]

apparently griddy man came from this server

[sterile blade]

I had good people to steal from teachers and inspirations in #screenshots, #design-and-architecture and YouTube. I also rebuilt the whole thing like 3 times, so that helps 😅

SF has been my only building game and represent most of my "architectural experience"

[sullen gull]

You know what, You are absolutely right and I apologize, I didn't even realize that your initial comment wasn't too me (#satisfactory message). My bad, been a looong day lol. Delayed flights and all that snazzy jazz 😒

[stray herald]

Well now you're my inspiration
✋🏻🤵🏻‍♀️🤚🏻

I'll probably just build a big cube lmao but still

[shy fog]

I do believe that problem is solved and as such... truce?

[sullen gull]

Could always do something like this 🤣 #screenshots message

[stray herald]

Circle

[shy fog]

I am still trying to finish the game for the first time and haven't been this far in ages...

[sterile blade]

I am honored and flattered 😅
Tbh, I don't consider what I build much more than "fancy cubes" 😆 I dare not open my gameplay to the possibilities of curves, so I stick to cubes and rectangles and try to make things fancier from there (the storage is just a collections of rectangles, pretty much)

[stray herald]

How long did that take

That circle must've taken ages

[sullen gull]

Lol, too long. Ended up saying screw it and getting the CurveBuilder mod after that build 🤣

That one does 3600/min QW

[stray herald]

Most my factories go like:
Floor
One wall going up
Floor

It's not even fully walled 😭

Can I tell a train to 'Drop X stacks here'?

[sullen gull]

Don't fret, it doesn't happen over night. Keep messing about and you'll get used to the mechanics 🙂

[shy fog]

today I finish particle enrichment...

[sullen gull]

Hold right click on a stack iirc

[sterile blade]

Hey, we all gotta start somewhere :P
I dare not go to my oldest published #screenshots , but I'm sure there's plenty of unimpressive stuff I posted too

[shy fog]

I am at fused modular frames creation

[stray herald]

Don't tell anyone but I purchased all the fused frames for phase 4 in the awesome shop☠️

[sterile blade]

Adding to this, @stray herald: the fact that I rebuilt one thing 3 times had a great influence over the end-result. Mistakes that made me go "oof, I wish I noticed this sooner, then I could have fit this decor AND made things overall better" had been fixed several times!

[stray herald]

And now it turns out I have all the resources to make 5 per minute off the bat, I just needed nitrogen

[sullen gull]

Heh, I'm over here in the middle of rebuilding/expanding my FMF factory lol. Then realized I was getting low on shards, so switched to making a power shard/singularity cell factory fist 🤣

[stray herald]

I wish they'd let us nudge things or just build holograms before confirming

[sullen gull]

Drones do well at bringing in packaged nitro gas.

[stray herald]

I have drones unlocked, haven't used them yet

[sullen gull]

Hit H, then you can nudge left/right/up/down for most things.

[stray herald]

Yes but sometimes I want to move my 20 refineries one nudge up

[sterile blade]

I built that storage before we even had blueprints, let alone nudging
Anyway, yes, we don't have much control over things already built. Mods can help (and they helped me!) :)

[sullen gull]

When you do, best bet is to have one station sending fuel to all the others fyi

[real anvil]

wha

[sullen gull]

You could always just throw the save into SCIM

[real anvil]

I didnt even say anything about satisfactory

what does this have to do with me

[sullen gull]

That was a "mis" @ .... sorry.

[real anvil]

no worries 😆

[sullen gull]

should just shutup and go build 🤣

[sterile blade]

Make more sushi!

[shy fog]

I'm a bench presser who has had an unhealthy level of restarts because wanting to do everything manually as best as possible... I have given up that method today

still don't have a "real" factory

I have not crossed 750MW useage

[sterile blade]

"How much do you workbench-press bro?!"

[shy fog]

til tier 7 was complete

if it was possible I benched it, all of the steps between

[feral geyser]

@dim dock dm sent

[shy fog]

and just to add to the insanity... I also manually mined it...

if I didn't NEED to use water for some I wouldn't even have built the extractor in the first place

speaking of which... gotta go fill my bag with another load of bauxite

[sterile blade]

I fear that asking you to share your playtime might cause an integer overflow in chat

[sullen gull]

Uhhhh

ic

[shy fog]

that would be a hacked account... <@&387163995947270144>

[strange rock]

Then give a steam key not a acc. Accs are usually hacked as he said

[shy fog]

you're probably not talking to the person who uses that handle

[plucky plank]

should i have multiple trains on one line taking bauxite to my factory (i am getting every node in the world) or should i have one train going to each bauxite node coming back with every piece of ore at once

[strange rock]

Having several is probably more efficient

[shy fog]

how fast do you need the ore?

[plucky plank]

im making 10800 ingots

[limpid cairn]

nitric acid is a fluid right not a gas?

[plucky plank]

my factory is at the gold coast and i have a massive straight train line going to the swamp

[shy fog]

ty bellancia

[woven sail]

They were here less then 2 hours. Promoted their twitch and tried selling stolen steam accounts.... yeah, good start

[shy fog]

most likely weren't the actual person either

[plucky plank]

@shy fog @strange rock

[shy fog]

straight train lines can be fun, but also challening... there's a guy out there who did a straight line train run...

[plucky plank]

whatsd the issue with them

[outer scarab]

straight is fine, if its in the air

[plucky plank]

its in the air

it looks ugly but hopefullyit will get the job done

[shy fog]

here... you might want this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3m0D8bt3ac

[strange rock]

If it works it works

[plucky plank]

oh

[shy fog]

doc has good tutorials

[plucky plank]

@shy fog no i have 4 railways 2 going back 2 going away

i dont mean one line ☠️

[shy fog]

heh... well it can be done 😛

[plucky plank]

alr

[feral geyser]

i still can't believe that there was bro out here earlier that said it was absolutely impossible to make a small setup that takes in crude and water and makes only packaged fuel with no other byproducts

[shy fog]

that is 99% planning... and maybe a AWESOME sink

[feral geyser]

no sink needed

[fluid sapphire]

whats not to believe, people say silly things

[shy fog]

I only said maybe

[tiny orbit]

Gun how

[shy fog]

sulfur M.A.M

[tiny orbit]

Does anyone want to 1v1 me

I’m a good at build fights

[shy fog]

we are factory, not pvp... besides I'd just cheat and throw noblesk at you

[sullen gull]

"Nuke" Nobelisk 😏

[tiny orbit]

Sticky hand grenade?

[feral geyser]

i'm just here like
#screenshots message

[tiny orbit]

Fortnite reference

[sterile blade]

Average legit SF fan be like:

[tiny orbit]

Oh btw, trucks are banned

[shy fog]

cyberwagon it is then

[feral geyser]

all vehicles, or just trucks?

[sullen gull]

What about Factory carts? 😏

[tiny orbit]

Truck is the only one I can afford

No vehicular manslaughter

That’s better

[shy fog]

truck kun does not kill... truck kun does iseki

(yes I have been run over a bunch)

[tiny orbit]

Will it isekai me into shooter

I want money back

[sterile blade]

Get hit by SF truck. Wake up in Factorio.

[tiny orbit]

Is that a shooter? Fortnite

[sterile blade]

It's a much better shooter than that. Much more powerful weapons

[tiny orbit]

Omg

Lightsaber?

[little wolf]

xeno basher

[tiny orbit]

They have light saber in this game

[sterile blade]

Freaking meters-long railguns

[heavy dock]

bro theres no way people are using builds to fight now

[sullen gull]

Wait, it does say the "Melee Range" for the cup ..... 😏

[heavy dock]

😭

[tiny orbit]

Yeah

[sullen gull]

Lol, sure there are

[tiny orbit]

Crank 90’s

[versed mirage]

One question, when do you ascend into ficsit glory and become a real satisfactory player, not like someone who just got the game and plays it you know?

[heavy dock]

😭

[feral geyser]

cranking 90s in Satisfactory is crazy work

[tiny orbit]

I keep losing to that big walking bean thing

It has so much hp, I think it’s hacking

[heavy dock]

fair its just too good

[feral geyser]

when you get the Golden Nut

[tiny orbit]

I have that

Am I satisfacotry pro??????

[sullen gull]

Idk, I'm at 3800 hrs, 3 "save the days", and I still don't feel close enough 🤣

[tiny orbit]

Can I finally get into an E-sport team?

[shy fog]

"Saved the day - probably"

[sterile blade]

After one manages to run a manufacturer using only one of its input slots

[versed mirage]

Ahh probably should have been more self explanatory there....

[versed mirage]

I guess thats where you name comes from Sushi... sushi belts?

[shy fog]

fully automating a manufacturer with only one input... is a lot of math

[little wolf]

1000h later...

[versed mirage]

I guess we only know when ficsit tells us

[shy fog]

ONLY 1000 hours?

I have crossed an additional digit of gametime... this save is over 300 I am on atm

[tiny orbit]

omg is that a reference

[sterile blade]

"A lot" is debatable, but it does require quite some care...
Jokes aside, running a machine like that does prove quite a degree of mastery over many of the game mechanics ^^

[tiny orbit]

[deep pier]

what does the power tower have on the power pole?

[tiny orbit]

It’s Auto from Wall-E

[sullen gull]

Distance.

[shy fog]

size... long distance... height

[tiny orbit]

My size is better

I got the Skibidi Skyscraper

[shy fog]

toddler level insult... my factory is better

and I haven't built one

[sterile blade]

Shape of the connectors, as they allow continuos ziplining without having to resort to ceiling mounts

[tiny orbit]

Fuck them power towers

Average height only

[shy fog]

he's insulting himself now

[fluid sapphire]

satisfactory is the most serious and toxic competitive game i have ever played

[tiny orbit]

Who?

[tiny orbit]

I’ve played steal a brainrot competitively, I doubt it’s more toxic than that

[sterile blade]

Step aside, COD community!

[fluid sapphire]

oh no, not roblox

[shy fog]

I'd say the most toxic game I have ever played would be Eve Online

[fluid sapphire]

my 12 year old brother plays that

[sterile blade]

Woah, woah, let's not get illegal!

[tiny orbit]

Yeah, satisfacotry too easy

[sterile blade]

Let Chris Hansen take a break...

[tiny orbit]

I had to resort to something harder

[dim dock]

hahaha. no one here plays LoL it seems

[tiny orbit]

I got perma banned

[shy fog]

oh LoL is way less toxic than Eve Online

there are people out there who's entire objective is just to annoy the shit out of you in eve

[dim dock]

i've played eve, it wasn't LoL level toxic. the gameplay is very... unhinged but.. community by far would be LoL

[sullen gull]

Omg ... Eve .... 🤤

[tiny orbit]

Ngl I feel like portal is more toxic

[sullen gull]

Oh how I miss the days of TNRA and Eve-Pirate 🤣

[tiny orbit]

Neurotoxins and all

[shy fog]

I was there for smartbomb day

[tiny orbit]

I was there for the death of the queen

Anyways

1v1?

[sullen gull]

Our alliance was the first to loose a station in 0.0 lol. T'was a 4 day fight 🤣 . 15 min warp from one side of the system to the other 🤣

[shy fog]

yeah... you probably were there for smartbomb day

about 20,000 concord spawned in Jita

[sullen gull]

If it was after 2012 or so, maybe not

[shy fog]

it took 3 hours to dock

[tiny orbit]

Concord was the closest I got to an esport team

That game was good

[sterile blade]

Can you ask him to get an autograph from Chris for me?!? 🤩
Alright, enough joking around, back to #satisfactory

[fluid sapphire]

he has said Chris is a busy guy

[shy fog]

toddler has learned the chat can't gif 😛

[tiny orbit]

[tiny orbit]

I am not toddler

[shy fog]

if not toddler, why toddler act?

[tiny orbit]

I don’t

Act like toddler

I just want to go pro in a shooter

Like satisfactory

[shy fog]

considering this isn't a shooter you perhaps need to start by learning how to aim

[tiny orbit]

But I got told it was

Earlier when I first bought the game

Someone on this server told me, and I’ve been grinding ever since

[shy fog]

#satisfactory message Your own chat history says otherwise...

[tiny orbit]

What chat history

I am like bat man

I go in and disappear

[shy fog]

seriously injured in the head and trying to explain to gotham city that because you have a bat and are male that you are bat man?

[tiny orbit]

Any tips to get good

I have too many bolts and 3 rotors

[feral geyser]

don't suck

[shy fog]

I doubt he can get that far if he considers this game a shooter with ranked play

[fluid sapphire]

go to the red forest

to get started

[tiny orbit]

I am in the map with the big bean whale things

And I on second space elevate

[sterile blade]

Which reminds me...
Space ElevADA when?

[shy mulch]

This seems like a troll tbh. Ignore

[sterile blade]

Uhm... 😭

[shy mulch]

Not you

[sterile blade]

Now I was trolling and worth ignoring xD

[tiny orbit]

How dare you accuse @sterile blade as a troll

[sterile blade]

I'm more of an ogre myself...

[tiny orbit]

Y’know, ogres are like onions

[sterile blade]

If you hurt them, they make you cry

[tiny orbit]

No?

You peel the skin off of them

[true mulch]

Use productions planners, like satisfactorytools.com

[leaden turret]

stab them with a knife while wearing swimming goggles and you won't cry

[tiny orbit]

Thank you

[unkempt blade]

not "the whole map" exactly but I've had a number of automated cart routes that are probably about half the distance across the map in different directions

[feral geyser]

Now what i need to know is, is there a way to solve RiA's problem from earlier without using water?

[unkempt blade]

you should add a link 😆

[feral geyser]

Basically, they want a compact setup (preferably blueprint-able) that takes in crude (and possibly water) and gives out only packaged fuel with no sink or byproducts.

I solved it for water allowed, but without water, I feel like it may not work.

#screenshots message

[unkempt blade]

I'd think maybe diluted fuel + the normal plastic recipe would get you there but I'd have to think about the ratio for overclock/underclock on stuff

[feral geyser]

Diluted fuel would use water

[unkempt blade]

ahh no water... hrmm...

[feral geyser]

Exactly, very tricky, but could be useful in the dune desert spawn.

[deep pier]

can someone help me? I tried to switch to turbo fuel but the refinery doesn't want to make it

[unkempt blade]

You'd have to figure out how to use the polymer resin for something that doesn't just add a different excess output... this is a fun question at least

[feral geyser]

Fuel and compacted coal?

[feral geyser]

Oh wait, yeah, no matter how you slice it, you gotta use water to use up the resins, and you can't make fuel without getting resins somehow. (why did I say that)

[deep pier]

yes I made a refiner that is behind the first one to make fuel first and flushed out the pipes and the first one has compacted coal but the second refiner(it's behind the first) has oil pipes connected to it but doesn't want to make fuel

[unkempt blade]

you could do like resin to rubber to recycled plastic but the ratios keep getting trickier 😆

[feral geyser]

Is it backing up on blue stuff?

[deep pier]

it never started

[unkempt blade]

oh but residual uses water...

[deep pier]

OMG I just looked into it to make sure and it turns out I picked the wrong recipe

[feral geyser]

Hmmm, purge all pipes and make sure the right ones are connected. Use color coding in the customizer

Le oof

[fluid sapphire]

always double, triple check whats connected to what

[cedar socket]

Any tips u guys could give on my rocket fuel plant? #screenshots message

[feral geyser]

Nice

[unkempt blade]

it's beautiful but it doesn't use enough factory carts

[cedar socket]

ty

hmmm good pont

well its ifne i alr have a factory cart skate park

[unkempt blade]

yeah that's gateway drug equivalent for factory carts

[cedar socket]

dont want them to work

so i cant use them for my power plant

oh btw i need help

i have enogh power to run my world

but not enough to turn on the power plant

what do i do?

[fluid sapphire]

build a coal power plant, and charge some power storage units

[cedar socket]

i alr did

[fluid sapphire]

so whats the problem

[cedar socket]

still not enough

i even have a fuel powerpalnt

[fluid sapphire]

power storage have no cap on how fast you can drain them

[cedar socket]

oh io have an idea

[fluid sapphire]

if you have enough stored, you can start your new plant no problem

[reef basin]

Turn on part of the power plant

[cedar socket]

i make a rocket fuel storage and fill it up and when my battery die i turn it off and charge them and repeat

[smoky forge]

or just shut off your entire machines on the map temporarely

[cedar socket]

thats too hard i dont have switches

i might break the wrong thing

[fluid sapphire]

oof

[smoky forge]

das bad if you didnt do sorted priority switches from the start on

makes everything complicated

[cedar socket]

i only have one and its for my rocket fuel

[smoky forge]

and exactly there you dont need one

[cedar socket]

and its normal switch

[cedar socket]

XD

[smoky forge]

its better to not have one on your power grid

[coral glacier]

Anyone ever go for a TW reactor power plant?

[smoky forge]

necause the power grid is even more superior than prior. group 1

[cedar socket]

o

[fluid sapphire]

hehh, i have not one but two power switches for my power plant

[coral glacier]

Yo that's INSANE 🤣

[fluid sapphire]

well i built it in two halves, the second half is waiting for mk6 belts and mk3 miners

anyway, i dont see any reason not to have some kind of switch (at least one) for all factories

[cedar socket]

you dont have mk3 miners?

[fluid sapphire]

nop

[cedar socket]

phase 3?

[fluid sapphire]

well, i dont produce superocomputers yet

[cedar socket]

oh i jst hand crafted them lol

and made temp alu setup

[fluid sapphire]

they are useless to me anyway right now, i cant be bothered with the extra belt management without mk6 belts

i have completed tiers 7-8, just dont have production for a lot of stuff yet

[cedar socket]

UH OH I FORGOT TO SWITCH OF MY ROCKET FUEL PLANT

[fluid sapphire]

uhh

[cedar socket]

m bateries are saving me

40-70 hrs left lol

im safe

[feral geyser]

that's enough time to get it working

[fluid sapphire]

lol easily, whats the problem, just turn it on

[cedar socket]

well i disconnected it from the power plant and its going to a storage now

[cedar socket]

i did kinda

200hrs

700 hrs XD

yipeee its working a fter like 2 weeks

wait no more

[fluid sapphire]

hell yeah

[cedar socket]

now just got to wait for the manifold

[fluid sapphire]

infinite power

[cedar socket]

144MGW

144000

this is just a place holder until i get nuclear

bcs nuclear is my fav thin g abt the game

it will take 48 min for my sotage to fill up

[fluid sapphire]

whats the storage even for

[cedar socket]

idk just for a smooth experience

better safe than soory

bcs im transporting 8 300 pipes

so the storage wil fill up the manifold wuicker

[fluid sapphire]

inline buffers, between where the fuel is coming from and where its going?

[reef basin]

Never use buffers

Apart from train platform buffering

[dense violet]

Just flood the pipes by underclocking a few gens , it’ll take longer filling the buffers and they often cause serious flow issues

[fluid sapphire]

you can also sloop the blenders to fill all the pipes and generators faster

[coral glacier]

Use ALL the buffers! >:)

[small notch]

#screenshots should i take this?

[dense violet]

Alt recipes are useful yes

[deep pier]

does the sink price increase go on infinitly?

[reef basin]

Do you want/need/like it?

[cedar socket]

bruuuuuuuuuu u

[small notch]

idk if its good i havent even started oil stuff yet

[cedar socket]

i alr placerd so muich buffers

36*8 buffers

[reef basin]

Recipe is "good" if it helps your specific case

[cedar socket]

so 288

[dense violet]

what a troll

[unkempt blade]

which one of them is your favorite one though?

[cedar socket]

hmmmm

52nd

i jsut found out one of my water pipes didnt work

[prime jasper]

What is the max distance for a single rail section? I need to know how to space my pillars for a project

[cedar socket]

cant u just extend it and count the foundations?

12 and a bit

[dim dock]

12.5 foundations afaik

[cedar socket]

less than 12.5

doesnt allow me to the half

[prime jasper]

Also is there a way to do big nudges? I know if we want precise placement i can touch control plus the arrows keys, but I wondered if there was a way to nudge several meter per tap

[cedar socket]

n o

i wish

[prime jasper]

12.5 foundations, and foundation are 8x8 right? So I have 100 meters?

[dim dock]

correct

they snap to the foundation's subgrid

[prime jasper]

This means i have to do 100 nudges if i want to place my pillars the further away from each other while still being precise ? 🥹

I know i keep the key pressed but then it is hard to count how many nudges i did

[dim dock]

normally i just place a track, then go as far as possible on one axis. when it hits red, i go back until it's exactly 12foundations (half a foundation's leeway). makes for a great macro measurement

[prime jasper]

Pkay thanks i will try that

[dim dock]

oh and i usually start at the center of a foundation. so i end at the center too.

[feral geyser]

Once you hit 2,998 cumulative coupons, the point value per coupon becomes constant again.

[deep pier]

thanks

[prime jasper]

I don't now if this is more reassuring than frightening. It is good to know it stop going up after some point. But considering how late it stop going up... I will probably not even reach that point xD.

[unkempt blade]

are you placing the pillars directly on the ground?

if they're placed on foundations you could count it out otherwise if they're on the ground I'd be tempted to just eyeball it

or pick a distance that's zoopable and run some temporary foundations between pillars

[rustic hare]

oh damn, same strategy here, but I start at the edge and end at the edge, it's better for attaching on curves in my case

[cedar socket]

guys is anyone good at pipes

[ripe basin]

Good day guys

[cedar socket]

hi

[ripe basin]

So hows it going brothers (and sisters probably)

[prime jasper]

Yeah, in the end i kinda did something like that. With 10 zoops I can get a reliable 80 meters which is good

[lunar jasper]

any tips on how to prevent non fissile uranium from stopping to work cause water is full? even though i should be using all the water for nitric acid?

[prime jasper]

What do you mean? It could be interpreted in many ways, especially in my native language

[cedar socket]

pipes in game

[woeful gale]

my pure oil run at 250% and I use mark 2 pipe but the machine only work at 56%

how to solve it?

[cedar socket]

there are ways to make priority mergers w pipes

[lunar jasper]

did that but aint working :0

[cedar socket]

ur math 100% correct?

[lunar jasper]

but now the input should be exact same as output so no need for those right

[cedar socket]

yes but pipes are wierd

[lunar jasper]

should be enough water in system to just recycle

[cedar socket]

they slosh

it doesnt work like ocnveyors

[kind tartan]

obviously good at in game pipes. what

[cedar socket]

lol

[lunar jasper]

idkkk i guess i just go nuclear meltdown

[woeful gale]

can anyone help me cuz my oil extract produce so much oil that it constanly full and stop working

[lunar jasper]

? then you need to start using the oil buddy

i aint an expert at pipes as you can see but

[cedar socket]

but its good if its full?

[woeful gale]

but when it full it stop extracting oil

thus make lower the effency

[feral geyser]

Add up everything that is consuming oil and have the extractor only produce that much.

[true mulch]

Screenshots of the entire setup, post in #1038092680493801533

[woeful gale]

nvm its all of a mark 1 pipe segment smh

[feral geyser]

Bruh

[cedar socket]

guys i just started phase four and made a rocket fuel plant and a very smal alu plant but now im not sure what to do next

[feral geyser]

Do Phase 4

[cedar socket]

the alu plant is just temp

[feral geyser]

Get drones and hover pack

[cedar socket]

yes but what to satrt with

[feral geyser]

Make a permanent one

[lost galleon]

Hi guys,
What do I do if I dont have a savegame folder in my Savegames?

[feral geyser]

That sounds not good

[unkempt blade]

What directory are you looking in? Have you created a save in-game?

[lost galleon]

The YouTube video said SaveGames 👀

[kind tartan]

uhm im pretty new so its prob a dumb question for yall so if some1 could check this post i would be very gratefulhttps://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1414219445504573460

[unkempt blade]

I'd make sure you're in the correct user for the c:/Users/[username] part of it

[winged tangle]

How do you guys build? FIrst roads and then build factororys near or besides it? Or do you first build the factory and then the roads? Also do you use the world grid and if so, do you also use round shapes for roads and stuff?? I recently started over after the first save file and the "mistakes" I did back then, I don't want to make again (such as, not being able to connect roads properly to my facorys.. Building to low to the ground to be able to lay down roads properly ect.. Any tips? See my first save file layout in #screenshots

[unkempt blade]

I'd just check out #screenshots and #design-and-architecture . How you want to build is mostly a personal preference

[shadow edge]

mk1 conveyor best

[cedar socket]

whats the difference between normal filters and odine infused filters bcs i rly dont wanna make iodine filters

if normal filters are just worse by a bit then ill stick w it

[eager palm]

Normal filters are for toxic gas, iodine are for nuclear radiation

Or I’m misremembering

[cedar socket]

norMAL DONT WORK ON RADIATIION

sorry for caps

[atomic notch]

i gotta get iodine filters automated lol

[eager palm]

I make all factories in the blueprint designer, and leave a single foundation gap around each “module” so that I end up building in a 5x5 foundation grid. That way, I can plan my zooping more easily, and roads and factories all snap nicely to the grid.

The larger blueprinters really threw a wrench into my plans, and now I’m debating a 7x7 grid playthrough.

[blissful atlas]

how do bp work
i cant seem to get my conveyer bp to attach to each other

[eager palm]

Cycle through build modes while placing a bp

[green fiber]

switch build mode with R to "autoconnect"

you already have ways to deal with heavy oil
look closely at the refinery recipes

[zenith pecan]

Oh man, Heavy oil really is purple gold! 😛

[lean flame]

hey does somebody know a way to light out my factory ? till now i use the seling lamps but my building has just 3 walls hight and a lot of space to be covered so its quite much affort to light with them since they also lust light up a 2x2. is there any way to light the space up easy ? sinde all the otherlamps are eather to tall or to inaffective

[eager palm]

You can immediately turn HOR into fuel, and then use plastic containers to sink the excess

[green fiber]

You cant just sink heavy oil so yes you need to process it
make the coke and burn that or sink it

fuel can be packaged but that needs plastic, which is a useless extra step

[atomic notch]

you can put the heavy oil into lik 7000 buffers

lmao

[zenith pecan]

Do you have billboards, if so you can make these and embed in the roof #design-and-architecture message

[eager palm]

You can, just not automatically

[green fiber]

thats fluids for ya

Pioneer: "I wanna dump it!"
FICSIT: 🖕 ♻️

[eager palm]

If you want to dump it all while you’re not using it, chain some buffers together so you can dump the whole line at once

[limber mulch]

Just remember to come by and flush the toilet once in a while

[zenith pecan]

Imagine if they let you dump it, but the world goes to hell in a handcart because of it, sludge worse than the looks of the swamp, sulphuric acid lakes and ocean that kill you and so on.

[eager palm]

If you build a pipeline all the way back to the hub, you can flush it remotely 😅

[atomic notch]

🤯

[zenith pecan]

Heavy oil really is valuable though, coke for diamond/time crystals, dilute fuel.

[green fiber]

i kinda wish we had an alt skin for buffers thats just big industrial open air tanks or artificial ponds

[zenith pecan]

The coke alt for aluminium boosts the yield there (anyone here remember when coke was the main recipe)

[green fiber]

so you can like surround your factories with tanks containing bubbling yellow-green sulfuric acid. You know - for that ✨ aesthetic ✨

bonus: it hurts enemies but not you

if it hurts you too it would be funny too ngl

[zenith pecan]

I'm kind of glad the bauxite processing happens inside the refineries and is as efficient as it is, I'd hate for half the map to be covered in the great red lakes of toxic like we get for real life 😄

[atomic notch]

theres no other map to put them in in game

[zenith pecan]

With the way I build, I guess I could use underworld vaults.

[lunar jasper]

where do i find the sam ore in the bottom right of the map

[zenith pecan]

Blue crater? it's a cave, accessible from the cliff edge just above the void. kinda left side.

[lunar jasper]

above the void?

[atomic notch]

u need to xplode the rock wall

[lunar jasper]

i have been looking way too long

which rock wall

[atomic notch]

just fly around the cliff look for a spot with gas

[lunar jasper]

spot with gas?

i dont see gas

[atomic notch]

yeah itll be like below the edge a bit theres a cave entrance blocked by rocks surrounded by gas

[lunar jasper]

is it close to the waterfall

[zenith pecan]

One momemnt please, I was looking for an old image I posted as a guide, I'll recreate.

[lunar jasper]

aah i think i got it

[near frost]

i can 2x my rocket fuel with just 13 sloops yepie

not yepie is that i now know this and i have to build 2x fuel gen and get the sloops

[zenith pecan]

All good?

[lunar jasper]

yes

[zenith pecan]

Alright 🙂

[lunar jasper]

escept fo rthe spiders

thanks

[zenith pecan]

I filled that cave with nuclear devices when I set up shop there 🤣

[lunar jasper]

omg i died

im so stupid

now im back in desert XD

[zenith pecan]

Yikes! , I hope you have transport links, or just reload autosave.

[lunar jasper]

i just take the train

wait for a few minutes

just needed some sam to make some bauxite

[zenith pecan]

I've had some right fun and collecting all the worlds sam.

And all the worlds bauxite 😄

[lunar jasper]

all the worlds bauxite?

im too lazy to collect the bauxite so i use sam

XD

[zenith pecan]

Yeah, all of it, processed here: #screenshots message

[restive river]

Hello

Good thing this games world is static

[dense violet]

oh?

[restive river]

I'm also on phase 4

[lunar jasper]

you are crazy

[zenith pecan]

All the worlds sam goes here: #satisfactory-experimental message (still incomplete)

[lunar jasper]

you are one crazy guy

[zenith pecan]

I just build on a slightly larger scale is all.

[restive river]

I think its time I try the Mega Warehouse method first

[lunar jasper]

warehouse not very necessary

[zenith pecan]

True, but still a cool challenge.

[restive river]

in that case, maybe I should build a bus then but I heard that doesn't work very well

[zenith pecan]

Besides, a sorting system like this is still its own challenge even with depots stealing their thunder #design-and-architecture message

[lunar jasper]

you could but most people build either a lot of small factories or a big mega factory

[shy mulch]

If you're building on a 'whole world' scale, you'll likely run out of Sam nodes before you run out of bauxite nodes

[lunar jasper]

im not building on world scale

[zenith pecan]

Or like me, mega factories in several biomes than crash other peoples computers 😄

[restive river]

If I were to build a mega factory it would be like this one mega factory I linked to my discord friend https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1jvsfhe/phase_3_finally_complete_after_320_hours_heres_my

What ever this guys insperation is to make something like that, is beautiful

[lunar jasper]

just didnt want to build another trainline for bauxite

is there a way to easily get more harddrives

[fluid sapphire]

yes, crash sites are pretty easy

[lunar jasper]

i feel like i got most sites, but still need some recipes

[fluid sapphire]

plug your save into SCIM, let it tell you where the rest are

[shy mulch]

There are more sites than recipes. Just keep looking. If you really want you can buy them from awesome shop but I've never heard of anyone who thinks that's worthwhile

[lunar jasper]

oh i have already bought 2

[zenith pecan]

Eek, there are more than enough drives on the map, buying them is a trap.

[tame marlin]

#screenshots message
is this the way to make taller conveyer belts ( that support belt on top of another )? maybe i need something unlocked in the shop for this?

[fluid sapphire]

bro 100 coupons per drive is an absolute scam

[lunar jasper]

then why can i never find the recipes i need Xd

[undone pendant]

will it be crossplay with console and pc

[restive river]

I assume it should be

[tame marlin]

can i add more buildings to the hotbar?

[restive river]

cause its comming to consol

[fluid sapphire]

idk, but you are more likely to get the ones you want by leaving the ones you dont want in your library

[restive river]

hit build menu then hit hotbar number to add new buildings you can also change your hotbar with Alt Scrollwheel or consol equivilant, imo I'd just get a usb keyboard if consol lol

[undone pendant]

yeah cuz i wanna play it with my friend but idk if it wil be

[fluid sapphire]

as far as we know, and thats with almost 100% certainty, the answer is no

[tame marlin]

mk2 miner on impure is 60?

[zenith pecan]

Unclocked, yes.

[restive river]

Welp, time to start revamping my now naked base after tearing it down

[fluid sapphire]

its not even out on console

[restive river]

Oh

[small notch]

Should I ship oil to my main factory via train or just make a factory there then just ship the products over with train?

Idk what would be easier

[cunning siren]

Shipping liquids is not great, avoid when you can

[fluid sapphire]

yeah the general sentiment is that its easier to ship solids

[small notch]

Idk anything about trains tbh only just about to unlock them

is the crater place in the bottom right of the map got good oil?

[fluid sapphire]

its a good spot for a lot of things

[small notch]

should i set oil energy stuff there

[fluid sapphire]

i cant tell you what to do, no one can, but what i can tell you is, its a prime spot to make a lot of rocket fuel, with everything in 1km radius to make 4800 rocket fuel (nitro rocket fuel recipe)

[small notch]

ok thanks

[fluid sapphire]

but you can do a lot of stuff there for sure

[upper gale]

That spot has a bit of everything

Yeah

[plucky plank]

why are my block signals saying signal loops into itself, yes - all of the railways are auto connected together

[magic drum]

anyone know how to rotate buildings in small increments when theyre on a foundation?

[restive river]

all I know you can do is control after locking holigram unless there's a mod

[plucky plank]

ctrl scroll wheel

[dense violet]

you want to rotate the foundations in small amounts, and then place the building on them. They snap to 90 degree turns

[tame marlin]

how do u directly upgrade stuff like the belts and miners

[shy mulch]

Just build it in place

[magic drum]

select the better buildings in the build menu, then click on the existing buildings

[shy mulch]

Search in #1038092680493801533 this is a very common question

[upper gale]

Wrong server xP

[frail sleet]

https://youtu.be/2T1r7h40hGM?t=63

[fluid sapphire]

ok, this has nothing to do with anything, but did you know you can paste stuff into the chat with middle mouse? pretty weird stuff

[green fiber]

middle mouse? doesnt do anything for me

[small notch]

#screenshots any of these two worth taking

[small kestrel]

where can i ask about nuclear power plant setups?

[late wagon]

is a planet crafter copy of satisfactory?

[dense violet]

ask and see. really depends how complicated it gets

[fluid sapphire]

aaaaaaaah, i have never tried this before, but it turns out its some kind of setting specific to Ubuntu

[dense violet]

no but this is https://store.steampowered.com/app/2854710/Chocolate_Factory/

[small kestrel]

i want to go all out, so as much uranium usage as i can. But for using 2k uranium the SAM requirment it more then there is on the map going full 3 tiers of the nuclear fuel

[dense violet]

do you mean maximum rods burning the plutonium and making it all into ficsonium?

if so, there isn't enough SAM on the map for that

[small kestrel]

max ficsonium while leaving enough SAM for end game stuff if needed.

[upper gale]

Reading the reviews makes me realize how difficult it must be to make a real satisfactory clone

[dense violet]

there isn't even enough for max ficsonium processing al lthe plutonium waste

[dense violet]

Someone just really half assed copied it. They released it just before SF

[upper gale]

Lol wow

[small kestrel]

any idea what i should aim for if i leave enough SAM ore for other endgame items? Ficsonium Fule Units?

[dense violet]

zero ficsonium rods?

you can very very easily, just do max uranium rods and sink plutonium rods (if you don't want waste) and be swimming in power

[dense violet]

plutonium rods were just introduced so people could have zero waste uranium rods. And then actively choose to burn the P rods or not

which was a good idea , a lot of people didn't like the idea of permanent waste

[torn furnace]

even if premanent waset can be dumped in the void via Trucks (or train) once every 200h XD

[kind tartan]

any idea why ficsit coupons are not printing..? first time i printed it was stuck too but i tried again and it worked. now it just hangs there printed. (i dont know how to explain it better..)

[dense violet]

you could try posting in #1038092680493801533 with images?

[kind tartan]

nvm.. i clicked randomly on my screen and it worked (as always after i ask :D)

[dense violet]

thigns happen 🙂

[upper gale]

It always hangs there printed until you click and drag the coupon

[small kestrel]

So do max unrainum nuclear and sink some of plutonium rods while having some go to fisconium production

[dense violet]

I'd sink all the p rods honestly. Or use them in drones/trucks (no waste)

if you find ficsonium rods interesting to make? maybe burn 1 or 2 P rods for a bit of waste?

you definitely don't make Ficsonium rods for power

[kind tartan]

uhm.. so after getting theese printed coupons i obviously went to that shop and i had 0. reopened multiple times. nothing. after rejoining still zero but after few mins they appeared.

[kind tartan]

ye i noticed just now

[small kestrel]

So how do some people get 1tw of power?

[sullen gull]

Fuel+nuke

[zenith pecan]

Build power stations like this one #satisfactory-experimental message

[sullen gull]

+power augment

[dense violet]

full uranium rod and plutonium rod burning

[dense violet]

or just... a truly boring amount of rocket fuel

[hard ivy]

there's actually just barely enough if you include slooping the RSAM and Ficsite

[rotund elbow]

so it js took me 7 whole hours to automate 10 motors per min and 12 industrial encased beams to now unlock the manufacturer and see that what i have spent 7 hours on plus a bunch of headaches is not even 1/4 of how hard its gonna be to make the pahse 3 bs for the elevator.

[small kestrel]

is 350,000MV enough power?

[dense violet]

for like 98% of people making worlds? yes

[hard ivy]

depends? for what?

[dense violet]

that's a huge amount of power. Even if you over clock a massive system

you realistically cannot use all the materials on the map processed to the end tier products. Even with the best computers.

[small kestrel]

max overclocking almost all machines with the ablility to just use all the resources in the world so i dont have worry about power later

[hard ivy]

then probably not

[dense violet]

well you can't really use all the resources

not processed all the way to the end

[restive river]

I finally found Sam

[sullen gull]

Where was he? 😏

[dense violet]

if you really want a crazy amount of power, use max uranium rods. You'll get like 600gw

[restive river]

Hanging on a ledge

[sullen gull]

You tell them it wasn't worth it?

[hard ivy]

max sink points at max OC uses 2 TW

[restive river]

lol

[small kestrel]

il be using 2k uranium and 5k sam and sinkin about 16 plutonium rods

[dense violet]

is the sam for ficsonium rods? I mean if yo uthink its fun to make them, sure

but you can get 600gw+ just from uranium rods, no slooping

[cunning siren]

Can any computer run "max sink points at max OC" or is it essentially theoretical?

[hard ivy]

max OC? absolutely. Min OC definitely not

[clear aspen]

just boosted

[cunning siren]

Performance upgrades must have been in a thing in the last year

I haven't played in a while, maybe time to give it another go

[atomic notch]

Bros hearing the call rn

The factory must grow

[cunning siren]

I enjoy the game loop, I don't really do gigabases

[sullen gull]

Whoah.. I mean, I've heard of 'mega' bases ... but a 'giga' base? awwwl yeeah... 😏

[cunning siren]

Factorio terms

[sullen gull]

Oh....

goes back to building....

[atomic notch]

Giga base is just more compensation

[low meteor]

can anyone help me with train signaling pls, i have seeen that you need path at start and block at exit but keep getting the message that it loops into itself, i have made sure the tracks are 1 foundation away too

[glass adder]

tbh, i build my train blocks right into the BP, makes life alot easier

[true mulch]

Post in #1038092680493801533 with screenshots

[near frost]

where can i report a big?

[inner timber]

You know what could be cool if the map could be randomly generated like Minecraft

[fossil ice]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @hard ivy

[mortal ginkgo]

No.

[unkempt blade]

I'd like to be able to hit shuffle on which node spawns at what spot

[atomic notch]

Pretty sure its auto gen on foundry

[mortal ginkgo]

I rather not have SAM node where coal is 😛

[atomic notch]

Also shuffle purity

[unkempt blade]

That coal node could be anything! It could even be a coal node!

[mortal ginkgo]

shuffling coal node for a coal node? literal black sorcery of unforbidden knowledge

[unkempt blade]

yeah I think in my head I'd keep the purity/type quantities but I'd just move them to a random existing spot

[mortal ginkgo]

Can't we have other node types? What about a node that gives Steel Bars? kek

[unkempt blade]

I'm not too interested in RNGing into an "unplayable" map but being encouraged to build in different spots seems fun

[mortal ginkgo]

what about a node that allows you to mine Factory Carts?

[unkempt blade]

I've done 3 play throughs at this point so I don't even really use the scanner anymore and the exploration stuff was fun

[unkempt blade]

ok now there's a million dollar idea!

[mortal ginkgo]

I would be crazy to mine nuclear pasta etc

[unkempt blade]

could just do a node with the same drop ratios as doggos get per item mined 😆

give you a nice little smart splitter adventure

[rigid mist]

phase 4 project part factory is done

6.1 MFG/m and 3.1 TPR/m

[mortal ginkgo]

good, now make it 20 to 10

[rigid mist]

no

[mortal ginkgo]

blz

[unkempt blade]

why do you hate fun?

just think of all the extra factory!

[rigid mist]

#screenshots message it took 5 giant ass floors just for this much

[unkempt blade]

I like the purple but it needs more factory carts before it's done-done

[rigid mist]

my factory actually lags my game now

i think i just need to restart the game though that usually fixes it

[cunning siren]

I remember this helping too. Some folks have gimpy hardware 😭 🤷

I bet now that blueprints "autojoin" now building in a modular way with them is much simpler 🤔 And with all the new nudge buffs remaking most blueprints will be super easy

[atomic notch]

One that gives random items so you have to make a sorting system

[cedar socket]

why do drones need so much fue;

[fluid sapphire]

use better fuel

[naive orchid]

yo, any ideas for the name i got alot of machines set up now #screenshots message

[unkempt blade]

if fuel is a concern there's always factory carts

[fluid sapphire]

but can i automate them to do jumps on my half pipes and ramps?

[cunning siren]

“No fuel” option has finally been added to Advanced Game Settings 🤷

[robust path]

[fluid sapphire]

name? I think you should name it Bill, in honor of Bill

[jade frigate]

Is there any cool coupons trick than the x4 somerslop trick?

[smoky nimbus]

should I turn my trains on "wait until one unload/load has been completed" or "wait until wagon is full"?

[restive knot]

I need rocket fueled chainsaw

[naive orchid]

bet

[true mulch]

by default you don't need to touch timetable settings at all

I don't know why people mangle with them so much, I use them on like 1 train of 20

[fluid sapphire]

efficiency

[naive orchid]

i finally set up rocket fuel because of an alternate so i got it before particle enrichment 🚀

moral of the story, never leave 50+ unscanned hard drives in your depot

and use drones instead of trains

[true mulch]

why not scan them immediately?

[naive orchid]

i usually dont xd

first time using rocket fuel, way better than turbofuel

i used to pray for things like this

[smoky nimbus]

is one car at ~1km distance good for 480/m items?

[fluid sapphire]

it should be fine

[true mulch]

depends on stack size

[fluid sapphire]

unless its something thats 50 per stack

[smoky nimbus]

100

[true mulch]

and then not just distance, but the round trip duration

[smoky nimbus]

i can check in a minute, one second

the round trip is less than minute, i'm pretty sure

[true mulch]

it's [stuff] per [time], except belts have items per minute, and vehicles have stacks per round trip

[fluid sapphire]

loading and unloading time too

[smoky nimbus]

maybe 1:30

[true mulch]

trucks have effectively zero, there is no lockout

I mean you just add the unloading time into the round trip duration

[fluid sapphire]

trucks? i thought trains

freight car

[true mulch]

@smoky nimbus by "car" do you mean car (truck) or freight car (train)?

[fluid sapphire]

[smoky nimbus]

trains 😭

[deep pier]

do the lizard dogs despawn?

[smoky nimbus]

i wouldn't use trucks for anything over 500 meters

[true mulch]

ah alright, the same general rule applies, you just need to keep the lockout in mind (freight platforms stop I/O for 27.08s when a train is un/loading)

[rough swift]

I just logged back into my ~60hr save file and found everything gone

[true mulch]

they don't despawn once tamed and they respawn unless you kill them and build a factory near their spawn point

[rough swift]

i still have recipes and progress saved but no building at all

[deep pier]

I put ones in cages inside my base and now neither of them are there

[fluid sapphire]

the supply that a single car can carry should last 6 minutes and 40 seconds, if you have containers on both ends to buffer the in/out, you should be good

[rough swift]

im js gonna start anew atp

[smoky nimbus]

output station doesn't fill up fast enough to need a buffer

[fluid sapphire]

if your source provides exactly 480, and the platform is locked while loading and you dont have a buffer, your source will effectively provide less than 480

[true mulch]

you always need a buffer due to the lockout

[lucid epoch]

alright fellas that time of year again, building a turbo fuel plant right now and having troubles with getting fuel to the last couple generators, I've tried moving the pumps around limiting the split offs using valves so the pipes are only taking what they need etc. but i still cant get the last couple of rows in the manifold to get fuel. I've even ran back through the production line to check the blenders and its all seems good. I despise fluids in this game.

[true mulch]

the buffer isn't there because of the platform filling up, but because for a brief moment it accepts nothing at all (BOTH the in and out platforms need one)

[lucid epoch]

and ideas could help

[smoky nimbus]

let the pipes fill before turning on the generators, and put an elevated buffer at the end of every pipe

[lucid epoch]

whats the idea with the buffers?

[smoky nimbus]

it just helps

[fluid sapphire]

it wont

at best it will do nothing, at worst it will cause or hide issues

[smoky nimbus]

helped me

putting buffers at the end of pipes helps, because it can fill up and distribute when you're having throughput issues

[lucid epoch]

basically how my setup is right now is ive got a 600 pipe feeding like 80 generators or something split between 3 floors. the first and second floor get fed with relatively no issue but the third floors gets almost no flow to it even though im positive the pipe should have enough to feed all the generator connected to the line

[smoky nimbus]

...do you have pumps?

[lucid epoch]

yes.

probably more than i need atp because ive been fiddling with it for so long

[fluid sapphire]

are you feeding from bottom up, or top down

[lucid epoch]

bottom up

its a tower with all of the blenders at the bottom

[fluid sapphire]

you will have less issues if you do it the other way around

[smoky nimbus]

if you have blenders just go nuclear

[lucid epoch]

would it be beneficial to pump all of the fuel up then let it run back down through the system?

[smoky nimbus]

yeah

[lucid epoch]

little late for that

[shy mulch]

God I hate Facebook, why are people always such creeps

[open viper]

Morning

[naive orchid]

evening

[sullen gull]

G'd Afternoon! 😏

[wide helm]

we are currently automating encased industrial beam. how far into the game are we? 25%?

[shy mulch]

10% at best

[wide helm]

thanks

then another question: the performance is already pretty poor. running at ~80 fps when in the factory. does it get a lot worse?

when i'm not in the factory, i get stable 150fps

[frail sleet]

what's your hardware and settings?

[smoky nimbus]

IF you're having performance issues, i'd highly reccommend splitting your factory up into multiple

[wide helm]

amd r5 5600x/32gb ram/nvidia 2070 Super

[smoky nimbus]

megafactories tend to get very bad performance wise if you don't have the hardware for it

[wide helm]

well we dont really want to megabase, just a normal playthrough i guess

[frail sleet]

It's worth checking the memory clock because it has a huge impact on performance, especially for cpu's without vcache

I expect you're likely graphically bound though with too high settings for the 2070S, since cpu limits aren't that severe that early

[wide helm]

i'm playing on the lowest i can :(

[frail sleet]

you can easily see by reading GPU load during the times of low performance, you'll see if it's above 90% (gpu bound) or below (cpu)

fwiw i always have 140-250fps before framegen with a factory spanning half the world and 4000 machines, but it's on zen 5 x3d which is much faster than you cpu

[wide helm]

cpu usage ist at 50%, ram is 12gb used, gpu is at 50% usage

[frail sleet]

CPU bound then. Is your RAM at 2133mt/s or something?

[restive river]

I love my 7800x3d cpu

[wide helm]

3200. i have XMP enabled

[sullen gull]

I thought you had a Zen 9 9950?

[wide helm]

but how come tho? the CPU is only at 50% usage?

[frail sleet]

9950x3d yeah, that's zen 5

[sick dragon]

anyone on linux running into exception access violation crashes recently?

[sullen gull]

zen == Ryzen?

[frail sleet]

Because it would only report 100% usage if the game could split its workload equally over 12 CPU threads, and it can't do that. It's only averaging 6.

[frail sleet]

ryzen is the consumer subcategory of zen, which is the actual CPU architecture family name

[wide helm]

the game does crash from time to time, about every 5-10 hours

[restive river]

I never had it crash before

[sick dragon]

hmmmm me its like every hour or 2

[wide helm]

mhhh i see. is it possible to enable the game to use all 12?

[sick dragon]

wasnt like that before tho

[fluid sapphire]

frequent crashing is most likely hardware instability. i had a lot of crashes before disabling xmp

[frail sleet]

no, it's just a reality of a lot of math and physical CPU features that prevent splitting certain workloads easily or efficiently

[sick dragon]

or driver issues which is my suspect currently

[wide helm]

i see, thank you for your help, i appreciate it! :)

[sullen gull]

grumbles at the time this "scan" is taking ...

[fluid sapphire]

one thing to note, if you use a lot of glass and signs, those are a real gpu hog

[true mulch]

scan drives when you find them

[mortal ginkgo]

I would like to agree that the scan takes too long for no reason.

[frail sleet]

some benchmarks btw https://i.imgur.com/y6Ehx2M.png

your cpu will be quite a bit slower than zen 4 standard

[wide helm]

we dont use any glass or signs (didnt even know signs exist)

[true mulch]

oh nvm you're not talking about hard drives

[mortal ginkgo]

Like I get it, it is scanning but, I mean mid game+ you are speeding the grab process

[wide helm]

my cpu is zen 4 tho?

[sullen gull]

@true mulch and @mortal ginkgo, Lol, sooooory, I was referring to the auto tune scan in the Nvdia control panel 🤣

[frail sleet]

It's zen 3, with 6 cores and 32MB cache

[wide helm]

oh my bad, thanks

[mortal ginkgo]

I was FOOLED brotherman 😭

[wide helm]

wait is zen 4 or zen 5 the latest?

[wary crow]

@deep pier you can mine and then delete the uranium quickly and heal when you drop too low until the cluster breaks. If you can wait though I would unlock the hazmat suit first. Then radiation won't do anything to you but consume filters giving you easy access to the sloop

[frail sleet]

zen5 is the latest, zen 6 is looking a lot stronger next year

[sullen gull]

Yeah, no worries, easy confusion given the setting and no specificity 🤣

[wide helm]

ohhh cool. well i might need to upgrade...

[frail sleet]

otherwise ingame, you can see a significant performance improvement if you don't jam too many machines in too small of an area. The main thing that affects performance is like, how many machines are currently within 100m of you (and that counts in every direction including up and down).

Machines that are at medium to long distance barely hurt performance, and you can build many of them.

[deep pier]

thanks and by chance do you know how many hits till the node breaks?

[fluid sapphire]

i have a (what seems to me) a weird anomaly with my power grid consumption, and max consumption. there is a 24GW gap, but i know for a fact i dont have enough machines on standby or turned off that would consume that much power?

[wary crow]

It differs from cluster to cluster but probably between 60 and 80

[frail sleet]

Max consumption probably only counts the most any machine can draw at one time, even if they never all draw their max simultaneously (talking about machines with variable power draw)

[last tartan]

it’s been too long since I’ve opened this game 😭

[fluid sapphire]

i dont have any machines with variable power draw

[frail sleet]

dunno then

[fluid sapphire]

[mortal ginkgo]

I think it calculates everything like trains, Awesome Sinks, my mom etc as if they would constantly ask for max power possible.

[fluid sapphire]

i have maybe 30 trains, and a few dozen sinks, im not sure that could add up to 24GW, seems like a lot

lets say 100 sinks to be safe, thats still only like 3GW on its own

[rigid mist]

i should probably redo my main storage cause my current one is incompatible with the depots

[wary crow]

I mean that doesn't have to be an issue

I feed my depots in the factories directly and only have a storage for the sake of having it

[rigid mist]

my current one is fed through a sushi belt from my starter

it would deadlock pretty quickly if i tried to use a depot with it

[wary crow]

You can add a smart splitter at every point a new item joins the sushi and add the depot there with the storage output set to overflow

[unkempt blade]

if you already have non-depot storage attached why not just send the output of those to a depot?

[rigid mist]

it's 3 industrial containers stacked so if i put depots it would block access to other ones

[unkempt blade]

stick a depot straight on top facing the other way and have a vertical conveyor go storage output => depot input

[rigid mist]

#screenshots message it's built on the ground and the floor above is occupied

[restive river]

who else watches anime when they are doing Satisfactory stuff

[unkempt blade]

just out of curiosity what are you expecting to need 3 ISCs of an item for in a shorter period of time than it would refill?

[rigid mist]

i made the storage 150 hours ago when i had no idea what i was doing

[unkempt blade]

you could probably get fancy with a solution somehow or you could do the easy thing and sink the top ISC and slap a depot in it's place 😆

[rigid mist]

lol

[sour vessel]

i'm curious about your name, how do you use factory carts for items, or am I just confused lol

[rigid mist]

or i could just use lifts to bring it under the map and put the depots down there

[unkempt blade]

they work with truckstops the way tractors or trucks do

[sour vessel]

oh cool

[restive river]

I always wanted to experiment with truck stops but I don't know how to start it off

[rigid mist]

or yk i could just split the sushi belt, have half go to containers and the other half to depots

[restive river]

Speaking of sushi.....*looking into my fridge

ah hah! I still got a box of my spicy salmon

I love fish

[atomic notch]

Just made my first sushi belt last night

[quick verge]

This looks kind of janky, will it work? https://i.imgur.com/DFDVde3.jpeg Im not sure why the switches are backwards though

[rigid mist]

29 depots 💀

[true mulch]

switch levers are in the direction of the way you can choose where to go, ignoring signals

you can't choose where to go if the track "merges" for you

[hollow halo]

so like.. what do most metal things take screws 😭

[rigid mist]

heh nice that's the same amount of spheres i have

[atomic notch]

Yk theres alt recipes that use more screws

[hard ivy]

with the right alts, you can stop making screws entirely

[atomic notch]

❤️

[true mulch]

screw hatred indicates a skill issue

[hollow halo]

i do indeed have a skill issue

mainly cause idk what im doing 😭

[restive river]

we need a bait bowl or something to entice the lizard dragons over

[hard ivy]

I hate screws because all recipes that use them, except one, are just dogshit

[true mulch]

that's a valid point of view

[wide helm]

yea well that's kinda unfortunate since we're building our base in a very factorio main-bus fashion

[cunning siren]

That can be helpful for a starter build and as long as you build it high enough off the ground you can expand it

[deep pier]

how good is the turbo heavy fuel compared to the normal one?(I tried to do some math and it seems worst but I did math wrong befor)

[rose tulip]

it gets used up faster but its way more powerful if I got your question correctly

[wicked nacelle]

normal turbo fuel recipe is the best recipe - including being able to easily recycle the rocket fuel waste coal

[cunning siren]

I've got gimpy hardware (8809G @ 4.2Ghz 1080 GTX) and can beat the game with a "grindy" single bus build and maintain good frames

[deep pier]

ight thanks

[wicked nacelle]

just make sure you're doing hor/diluted fuel for the fuel you use - that's where the big alt recipe win is

and then of course recycled plastic/rubber for those two, too

[feral geyser]

Is it even possible to fit more than 6 refineries in a Mk 3 blueprinter? I don't think it is.

If anyone has a blueprint with more than 6 refineries in it, please let me see it.

[cunning siren]

Is there a fancy way to mass deconstruct in the new version? 🤔 I recall that being a huge bummer ~1 year ago

[heavy pine]

You can deconstruct a whole blueprint at once by switching the deconstruct mode.

[cunning siren]

Oh right, good reason to always use blueprints

Sad that its not an option for the starting stuff last I recall

OH... it looks like there are advanced starting options for that maybe 🤔

Boooo, you have to change the state of the game to do it... nah

[atomic notch]

Other than ctrl for mass dismantle idk

[sullen gull]

"Fancy" way? You can filter objects with G and select up to 50 at a time with CTRL

[cunning siren]

Oh right, click 50 things lul

[sullen gull]

You hold CTRL and fly just hover over, all the things, what you want to dismantle. Ctrl click again to deselect...

[cunning siren]

So no mass select like most RTS? 🤔

[feral geyser]

He's literally describing mass select

[cunning siren]

Like drag a window thing?

[feral geyser]

You hold control and look and stuff.

[cunning siren]

Vs cursor over stuff

gotcha

[feral geyser]

Well, this isn't an RTS, so no

[cunning siren]

Bummer

My middle mouse button won't drop an item 😭, am I doing it wrong?

[restive river]

is your middle glitched? Mine does the double click glitch for some reason luckily I have side clicks that I can use

[cunning siren]

Yea, it looks like I double bound the key maybe? IDK Maybe user error

[cedar socket]

What fuel should I use for drones

[wide helm]

is there some form of belt immunity item like in factorio? couldnt find anything :(

[sick dragon]

Any can be used. Think the better question is how much do you plan on using