satisfactory

[stray herald]

IT doesn't at all? Even if you have the extractor?

[feral geyser]

They're different each game

[next plover]

Are they? Mine have been pretty consistent, the ones I remember anyway

[limpid cairn]

how do use tha tool?

[feral geyser]

I'm pretty sure, but now that I've typed it out loud, I'm not so certain

[fluid sapphire]

i seem to get the same deposits reappearing after a while, at the same spots, after i remove them

[hard ivy]

pretty sure the locations are the same, the resource type is random (except uranium)

[feral geyser]

Yeah, I think that's it

[hard ivy]

ask for an item, set an amount and Tools gives you the most resource efficient recipe combination it can given set constraints (recipes, resources, machines)

[limpid cairn]

Unfortunately we couldn't calculate any result.
This can be due to many things: missing resource required for the production line, not enough resources for the requested amount, disabled recipes required for the product, etc.

[sour ledge]

i love that tool so much. i used to have huge, sprawling running notes in notepad++ calculating "Okay I have this much ore/m i can produce in this area, can import this many of a thing from another factory, and i need this thing...."

[limpid cairn]

ah i found the issue

it was because turbo fuel counts as an alt recipe

[misty urchin]

Hola que tal?
Como andan ?

[hard ivy]

#rules

[edgy python]

I just remember and hope it’s correct

[jade frigate]

Is there an item limit in ||dimensional depot||? If so how big

[edgy python]

Yes

[stray herald]

1 to 5 stacks

[edgy python]

It starts at 1 stack

[hard ivy]

there is no limit on the number of types of items

[stray herald]

of ANY item, so if you want to store 1 stack of 200 items, you can

[edgy python]

And every time u upgrade in mam it increase the stack limit

[tall plover]

ok what ive painfully learned:

Do not use drones to supply large quantities of material

[edgy python]

Is that not a thing you realise just by seeing how small the cargo hold is

Plus trains are better(for me)

[tall plover]

they are

[jade frigate]

I want to have all items in game, so then it's a stack limit or not

[tall plover]

its just my first playthrough and i didnt use em yet

[edgy python]

First play through is always terrible

[tall plover]

and i thought "hmm, you get late access to them, surely they cant be that bad"

[hard ivy]

you can have up to 5 stacks of each item

[jade frigate]

oh ok

[tall plover]

they are infact that bad

[hard ivy]

I mean they can do a few stacks per minute

[tall plover]

yea but nothing for large scale factories

[edgy python]

Well only use drones if your transporting things like computers because if you transport stuff like caterium wire no way can the drone keep up plus you need lots of batteries so in my opinion stick to trains unless you want to use it for things like computers frames anything that isn’t a large /min

[tall plover]

eh this save is cooked anyways

[edgy python]

Every first save is

[hard ivy]

and possibly second, and third and ...

[unkempt blade]

easy, just use more drones 😄

[tall plover]

i was tryna supply for my adaptive control unit factory

[edgy python]

Not unless you spend 500hours on your second

[edgy python]

What were u supplying

[tall plover]

enough for 70/m

[prime jasper]

It seems we can set up two different travels at a single drone station? How does that work exactly?

[edgy python]

Are we forgetting about batteries?

[tall plover]

about 15k per min

with drones

in hinsight, yea that was a bad idea

[edgy python]

That was in no world ever gonna work

[hard ivy]

yeah, that's gonna be like 30-40 drones lol

[tall plover]

m o r e

[unkempt blade]

I use plain old packaged fuel so I have tons of it 😄

[edgy python]

Did you even think about the fact that if you wanted to use like 2 drone stations you’d need mk.5 conveyers and lots of them

[edgy python]

They made it so you can use fuel??

[hard ivy]

why are you making so much ACU lmao

[tall plover]

because why not

i accidentally made 100 HMF/m

[unkempt blade]

ya different fuel types just cause them to operate at different speeds

[edgy python]

Are batteries the fastest?

Can I use plutonium rods

[hard ivy]

plutonium rods and ionized fuel are

[unkempt blade]

it's on the drone page of the wiki if you want to compare

[edgy python]

Ok

[edgy python]

In my second save I have to many of those

I just send them straight into the sink

[tall plover]

#design-and-architecture drone ports

[jade marlin]

What would be a good number of items/minute in a storage facility that will feed the dimensional depot? (anything above 240/min makes no sense because items that are this heavily used will have to have additional depots somewhere else. but creating 240/min of every item is overkill when somewhat advanced)

[hard ivy]

however much you think you'll need for building

[edgy python]

Got it — you’re basically trying to figure out a reasonable baseline throughput per item for a central storage facility that feeds a dimensional depot, without overbuilding production. Let’s think it through systematically:

⸻

1. Hard Upper Limit
   • As you said: 240 items/min is the practical ceiling.
   • Any item with higher sustained demand will need specialized production + dedicated depots.
   • So storage is for general-purpose, moderate-demand items.

⸻

2. Item Categories & Typical Demand

Not every item needs the same throughput. A balanced setup usually scales something like this:
• Bulk materials (plates, rods, circuits, low-tier stuff):
Used in most recipes. These are what bottleneck if you set them too low.
→ Recommend 120/min baseline. (Half the ceiling, good for mid-to-late game.)
• Mid-tier crafted components (motors, gears, reinforced plates, etc.):
These show up often, but rarely in huge quantities.
→ Recommend 60/min. Enough to sustain multiple production lines without eating storage.
• Advanced parts / late-game intermediates (engines, computers, turbines, exotic stuff):
They’re used in smaller batches, usually 1–10 at a time.
→ Recommend 30/min baseline.
• Rare / “final assembly” items (rocket parts, singularities, specialty science stuff):
Not practical to buffer them at scale in storage.
→ Recommend 10–15/min, or skip central storage entirely and do on-demand production.

⸻

3. Why These Ratios Work
   • 120/min bulk = you can feed multiple small production lines from storage without worrying.
   • 60/min mid-tier = covers steady consumption but doesn’t waste space if unused.
   • 30/min advanced = ensures you’ve always got stock, but doesn’t overload belts.
   • 10–15/min rare = “trickle buffer” for items you don’t always craft.

This way, your storage depot remains useful well into advanced stages, but it doesn’t try to be a mega-factory by itself.

✅ Final Suggested Baseline Setup:
• 120/min bulk (plates, circuits, rods, basic fuels)
• 60/min mid-tier (motors, reinforced plates, mid electronics)
• 30/min advanced (computers, turbines, quantum parts)
• 10–15/min rare (supercomputers, satellites, rockets, etc.)

⸻

Do you want me to draft a tiered table (bulk → rare) with example items in each category? That way you can quickly map your storage throughput to what you’re actually producing.

[tall plover]

holy chatgpt

[edgy python]

Fr

I mean I definitely write it

[hard ivy]

also bad advice lol

and nonexistent items

[edgy python]

I tried using ChatGPT for so many satisfactory things and it does not work

Would not recommend

[tall plover]

no, i love my turbines

[jade marlin]

yes let me make 30 "exotic stuff" per minute...

[hard ivy]

idk why you'd do that

[tall plover]

also satellites

[edgy python]

???what are those again??

[tall plover]

theyre my items

[jade marlin]

but legit not what i was looking for either...
i dont really know how much i should produce

[edgy python]

??

[tall plover]

duh

[edgy python]

I don’t know

[tall plover]

Im starting to understand why youre using chatgpt for satisfactory stuff

[edgy python]

No I’ve never heard of turbines in satisfactory

[edgy python]

Also I have over 1k hours

Is it a mod

Like wind turbines

[jade marlin]

"turbines" exist in the base game as cosmetics. but its more like fans

[edgy python]

Ohh

The factory fans in the awesome shop

[jade marlin]

they look somewhat like turbines (though there are for sure mods with actual turbines)

[small notch]

With oil residue is the only way to dispose of it to package it and sink it

[jade marlin]

you can make fuel -> power

[hard ivy]

make fuel or pet coke and burn it

[edgy python]

Make fuel for generators

Never dispose of heavy oil residue

[small notch]

Ahh I didn’t know you could make fuel with it

Ty

[edgy python]

Also I think you can make diluted fuel

[jade marlin]

he is most likely not at that point yet

[hard ivy]

you need alts for that tho

[surreal meteor]

Are there any problems in the long run with using belts overlapping with each other?

[small notch]

Can’t you make turbo fuel with it too

[hard ivy]

nah, it's fine

I wouldn't bother, but yes

[small notch]

Is turbo fuel even any good

[hard ivy]

it's more oil efficient than fuel but that's it

but considering that with the right alts, you can make 20 GW from 600 oil and some water, that's not particularly useful imo

[small notch]

Ok

[edgy python]

It is if you want a large power plant without having nuclear power

[hard ivy]

then you do rocket fuel and not turbo

[upper gale]

@hard ivy Btw how come you don't like turbo heavy?

The alt

[hard ivy]

because it's about as oil efficient as diluted fuel

and diluted fuel takes water

turbo heavy takes compacted coal

why would you spend compacted coal on turbo heavy when you could use water on diluted and get the same amount of power

[surreal meteor]

Any alternatives?

[upper gale]

Hm okay I see, thanks. I'm gonna go take a look at them

[hard ivy]

I just burn regular fuel until I hit tier 8 and then rocket fuel and/or nuclear

[surreal meteor]

Not to fuel, to overlapped conveyor belts

[hard ivy]

what alternative do you want?

like you can just not overlap them

[surreal meteor]

Like stacking them? Then sometimes it would be too steep

[hard ivy]

it's only aesthetic

[surreal meteor]

Isn't there a steepness limit?

[hard ivy]

use lifts then

[surreal meteor]

I could try that

[bronze dagger]

the game didnt like just update

did it

[upper gale]

I'm gonna use turbo heavy since don't have blender unlocked yet

[unkempt blade]

only?!?! appearance over function at all times!

[hard ivy]

there's also diluted packaged fuel. it uses refineries

[upper gale]

Man you'll make me think myself to death

[unkempt blade]

let the dice decide for you! trust in fate

[upper gale]

Would diluted packaged fuel be better?

[calm dune]

What did they release in this 4GB update?

[solid storm]

Is it a known bug that the Packager machine is invisible until you hook up the power? #screenshots message

[upper gale]

The packager is just an introvert

Alright so it'll only be better once I have blender

[hard ivy]

... diluted packaged fuel. same oil efficiency, just uses refineries and packagers instead of a blender

[upper gale]

Yeah but

Then I turn the fuel into turbofuel

Or am I not supposed to

[hard ivy]

turbo heavy fuel takes heavy oil residue, not fuel

default turbofuel takes fuel

[unkempt blade]

this is all way too complicated I think I'm just going to stick to biofuel

[upper gale]

The end product I want is turbofuel

You want me to use "Diluted Packaged Fuel" which gives me regular fuel

What do I do with it after that?

[unkempt blade]

use it for turbofuel or turbofuel blend

or package it and sink it and stick to biofuel the way god and nature intended for us

[restive knot]

Is there a health restoration item I can fully automate? All the medical inhalers need berries/nuts/bacon

[hard ivy]

if you want tubofuel specifically, then heavy oil residue to diluted packaged fuel to default turbofuel is the most efficient
https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=VzQyiUqy0YFOXaRsTsNw

[unkempt blade]

nope

[upper gale]

Gotcha, alr thanks sorry about that

[unkempt blade]

but I've got all this petro coke to get rid of 🙁

[sour vessel]

sink it

[unkempt blade]

but I want to turn it into turbo fuel and package that and sink it!

[sour vessel]

ahhh fair enough

[unkempt blade]

I need more points to spend on gold statues

[prime jasper]

I heard we could power drone with nuclear rods.

In that case, where doe she waste go once it is depleted?

It is pretty easy to understand that it goes to the output for a nuclear plant, but for a drone I don't see where this goes. And if it removes the waste would be too beautiful isn't it?

I can't try it yet by myself because I haven't started my production of uranium cells yet sadly.

[hard ivy]

waste doesn't get created unless the rod is burned in a reactor

[prime jasper]

If there is basically no waste for vehicules this is huge.🤔

[sour vessel]

Would the vehicles not be... spicy? (i haven't unlocked nuclear yet, so im not sure)

[hard ivy]

they would

[unkempt blade]

yes, but just keep some filters in your inventory 😄

[hard ivy]

except drones. they do not carry fuel as items

[sour vessel]

oh i see

[prime jasper]

That kind of trivialise batteries I guess.😯

[atomic iron]

It takes like 10 seconds to quick save my world is so big 😭😭😭

[bronze dagger]

is there a bug that causes server crashing if someone alt f4ed after dying and didnt respawn

[hard ivy]

10s is still better than 2 min

[wicked nacelle]

I don’t think the vehicles are radioactive. But the stations with a stack of rods def are. (Are the vehicles radioactive?)

I only use nuclear drones at my nuclear facilities.

[true mulch]

if a single fuel rod is burned for fuel, the energy is stored in the vehicle and does not emit radiation

as mentioned, drones don't carry their fuel as items, so the fuel never causes them to emit radiation

if you insert 1 fuel rod into a truck, it won't be radioactive, but if you insert 50, it will burn 1 and the remaining 49 will remain in the fuel slot and emit radiation

truck stations and drone ports hold items and thus emit radiation as usual

[unkempt blade]

literally unplayable! nuclear powered drones should irradiate the stuff around them!

[wicked nacelle]

Yeah I’ve never been buzzed by a radioactive drone. Trains are somehow one-way radiation proof and one-way not.

Or maybe the engine is radiation proof I guess. I want a suit made out of factory cart 🙂

[wicked nacelle]

You’d need a way to unload the waste. That would be awkward.

[bronze dagger]

where do I get the save to drop into satisfactory calculator

[true mulch]

trains do not care about the stuff of mortals like poison gas, radiation or the physics of anything beside other trains

[true mulch]

it tells you when you hover the button or #faq

[wicked nacelle]

%localappdata% / some stuff

[hard ivy]

SCIM literally says where

[unkempt blade]

dump it all over the trucks below it, take a lesson from the birds

[wicked nacelle]

You just find radioactive waste along their paths that slowly builds up

Probably gets on the windshield of a factory cart

[unkempt blade]

that's ok, they can handle it

they're surprisingly durable

[wicked nacelle]

Maybe have them do it more often on the cybertruck and have it rust 🙂

I wish sat+ would update. I have too much free time.

Oh wait. They did?

[unkempt blade]

just keep replacing conveyors with factory carts until it updates

[wise zinc]

That sounds like a tomorrow problem wrapped in a today solution. Project Approved.

[wicked nacelle]

Who cares about that guy playing tomorrow.

[wise zinc]

Exactly

[unkempt blade]

he's probably a jerk anyway, most people are jerks

[wicked nacelle]

For me it’s usually the guy in the past that made a bunch of spaghetti and now wants me to increase production 25%

That guy keeps following me everywhere

[placid stirrup]

Seriously, I'm constantly picking up after him

[bronze dagger]

is there a fly or teleport command or do they not work

[wicked nacelle]

Yeah they work

[bronze dagger]

how do you type em

[wicked nacelle]

Fly is advanced game settings. Teleport is a console command. Dunno if just google it

[bronze dagger]

i dont think those will work, Im trying to find my friends dead body (hes logged out)

[wicked nacelle]

Maybe there’s no teleport but I swear I’ve used it to move friends to me when they join a game but it’s been a while

[bronze dagger]

i dont think it exists though

[wicked nacelle]

Dead body drops death crate that shows on map

Logged out players show as players

[bronze dagger]

he had keep inventory on

[wicked nacelle]

You can beat the death crate out of them if they didn’t have the courtesy to drop one

[unkempt blade]

I was thinking one existed in a mod I used to use for flying but less than certain

[strong fiber]

How big is statisfactory on pc like by gigabytes

[hard ivy]

25.5 GB for me

[strong fiber]

Im just curious for the console release because usually its around the same

[heavy pine]

I had forgotten how complicated plutonium rods are to make. Still, I need to get my head around it and if I want to actually have nuclear power in this run.

[limpid cairn]

Guys

Is it a good idea to bring the HOR from my turbo fuel plant to an empty RF plant ?

basically, turbo fuel will get empty and rf (hopefully) will get up before turbo fuel runs out

[heavy pine]

I'd say if you're going to switch from one power source to another, set up a whole bunch of power storage batteries to give the new system time to fully come online and stabilize.

[wicked nacelle]

It's good to have a bunch of charged offline power storages just sitting around for any type of need - put 'em on a priority power switch and you can flip it on from anywhere

[frank lance]

Question: Radar towers for finding and taming LizzardDoggo

It appears that the towers show off spawn points, and not actual tamed creatures... when did this change?

[limpid cairn]

I have like 18 batteries pretty sure

[heavy pine]

Depending on how much you're using, that may be enough. I'd say run a test; disconnect your power production from the grid and see how long it says your batteries will last.

[hard ivy]

I'd aim for at least an hour of backup

[undone pendant]

hey guys when my friend joins my world it keeps on crashing and solutions?

[wicked nacelle]

that gets harder and harder over time. I think I have 15m online and 15m offline and that's always been fine. All I need is long enough for all my trains to make a round trip

[frank lance]

do you or he have addons loaded... if theres an incompatibility there, it will crash

[undone pendant]

no we dont

weve joined each other worlds both of them keep crashing

[frank lance]

is your hub in a strange spot? friends always spawn in the hub first time

[undone pendant]

nooo

weve been playing it for a while now and have had no issues prior

[heavy pine]

Maybe as a test, see what happens if one of you starts a new game.

[frank lance]

are you sure all mods are off? (both him and you)

[undone pendant]

we js tried that it doesnt work

[undone pendant]

we never had mods installed from the start were playing vanilla

[heavy pine]

Do you both crash when one person joins, or just one of you?

[frank lance]

maybe both run the "validate game files" from your loader/installer

[undone pendant]

just thats the host

trying yhat now

[frank lance]

how about the version number... you both on 432215

[undone pendant]

ty for the help it worked with validating

[stray herald]

Man idek what to do at this point ☠️
I need ideas

I reached phase 5 and I have NOTHING relevant that's automated
Cooling systems? I have 0 nitrogen extractors, I actually have zero fused modular frames, and zero heat sink production
zero radio control unit production, zero high speed connectors, zero turbo motors
Why? It's because I bought the stuff I needed for phase 4 from the Aweesome shop 💔

[hard ivy]

... why?

[dense violet]

It’s obvious right? Start automating things in order

[stray herald]

Because my previous production numbers don't match up to the new demand (e.g I was making 10 computers, but I needed more than that per minute for super computers so I got discouraged and bought the other items

Because I cared too much about clean even numbers

[shy fog]

... I just keep building by bench though...

[stray herald]

Probably power I'd say so time to go nucllear

I somerslooped the entirety of phase 4 lol

[dense violet]

Oof

[clear aspen]

i just made code for a smart splitter with python code

[hard ivy]

you know that even if you automated an item once, you can just ... automate it again? more of it? whenever you need more?

[clear aspen]

dm me if yall wanna see it

[dense violet]

Well you can get away with 30gw if you keep it modest and let parts of the factory go idle when full

[stray herald]

Show me please

[stray herald]

I'm at 16GW

[stray herald]

Yes which is my problem exactly I kinda just give up 😭

Gotta fix that now

[next plover]

After 1000 I'm starting over lol

[limpid cairn]

is there an alt recipe for compacted coal?

[hard ivy]

the base recipe is already an alternate recipe. other than that, it's only a byproduct from RF and IF production

[opal ledge]

is this game dead

or do ppl still play

[limpid cairn]

at least 1 sulfur and 1 coal is 1 compacted coal right?

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch compacted+coal

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=compacted+coal

[distant pulsar]

There's been a pretty consistent 20k concurrent players on steam for like 5 years

[opal ledge]

i wasnt sure was gonna buy but didnt wanna play solo

[distant pulsar]

#1201555265942724758 check it out

[hard ivy]

you're gonna have to convince friends to buy the game too

people genreally don't love playing this game with strangers

[opal ledge]

yeah im new to pc so dont have pc friends unfortunately

[hard ivy]

the game comes to consoles soon-ish

[opal ledge]

i posted waiting for some hits before i spend money lol

[opal ledge]

tht would be dope hopefully before dune comes to console

well i just bought it anyways solo AWAY!!

[rigid mist]

85 pasta done

[sweet tusk]

Train stations only need to be placed at the front of the whole unloading station right? Not the front and back?

[rigid mist]

yes

250 automated control unit thingys boutta be sinked

*adaptive

23 million points per minute over 30 seconds

should i have sinked about 3000 modular engines? probably not.
did i? Hell yeah

[shrewd palm]

i uh

am 400 away from the golden nut

i might get it by the time i finish phase 5

[rigid mist]

lol

[shrewd palm]

if i didnt spend a whole bunch on parts i'd probably have it by now

[rigid mist]

i've been spending my tickets as i got them
i've unlocked everything so the statues might be a bit of a ways away

[sweet tusk]

Does anybody else's train station rails always look like they are z-fighting or something?

[shrewd palm]

are you running tracks through them?

train stations have rails so you just need to connect to them

[sweet tusk]

No, I just placed the station by itself. No rails anywhere around

[surreal meteor]

What's a good place with a lot of resources to build a factory?

[rigid mist]

depends

[stray herald]

@rigid mist Don't you need like lots of them for Phase 4?

I was using somersloops and needed ~600

[rigid mist]

i'm reautomating them

[stray herald]

Ah

[rigid mist]

it's just easier

[stray herald]

Good

[carmine aspen]

Not one place has everything you need, you will have to expand further and further

[surreal meteor]

What place makes that the easiest? I want open space and a fair amount of ore

[stray herald]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map#5;-83264;-150959|gameLayer|limestoneImpure;ironImpure;copperImpure;coalImpure;oilImpure;sulfurImpure;bauxiteImpure;quartzImpure;uraniumImpure;samImpure;nitrogenGasWellImpure;oilWellImpure;waterWellImpure;geyserImpure;limestoneNormal;ironNormal;copperNormal;cateriumNormal;coalNormal;oilNormal;sulfurNormal;bauxiteNormal;quartzNormal;uraniumNormal;samNormal;nitrogenGasWellNormal;oilWellNormal;waterWellNormal;geyserNormal;limestonePure;ironPure;copperPure;cateriumPure;coalPure;oilPure;sulfurPure;bauxitePure;quartzPure;samPure;nitrogenGasWellPure;oilWellPure;waterWellPure;geyserPure

Sorry the link is ugly

[heavy pine]

🎶 Oh give me a home, where the lizard dogs roam, where the hogs and the spitters play. Where never is heard an inefficient word, and the skies are not cloudy all day. 🎶

OK, maybe that needs a bit of work.

[rigid mist]

my plastic backed up so i wasn't making any petroleum coke, which then means i my steel stopped, stopping my HMF
my HMF stopping stopped my FMF, stopping PCC, stopping the pasta

[unkempt blade]

overflow-sink all the thing!

[rigid mist]

that's what i did
god i love the sink
and it works for coke backup too

[dim flint]

If only you could easily sink fluids... sometimes I just really want to spill water back into the ocean.

I still don't understand fluid dynamics enough to trust loops even though the one I have tend to work.

[rigid mist]

just package it

or use wet concrete, limestone is goddamn everywhere

[dim flint]

That involves wasting plastic or aluminum 🙁

[rigid mist]

wet concrete only works for water though, but alternates exist for other fluids iirc

[coral glacier]

Although since there being Limestone everywhere, it's really good for when you're building nuclear infrastructure.

[carmine aspen]

You make so much from making fuel its negligible

[dim flint]

My turbofuel plant produces resin.

[rigid mist]

yeah i think i used about 2650 limestone/m for my nuclear plant

[rigid mist]

residual plastic?

[dim flint]

I could, but then I'd have to ship it. It's just a small pain sometimes.

[rigid mist]

that was my fault though, i didn't use wet concrete until my plutonium build

[dim flint]

I'm looking forward to doing plutonium.

[heavy pine]

How many days are there in a MASSAGE-2(A-B)b year?

[dim flint]

Is that the planet we're on?

[rigid mist]

it's a binary system so i don't think there is actually a consistent year length

[carmine aspen]

An average is still good enough

[shy fog]

consider we have no means of actually determining seasons

[heavy pine]

Just curious because it's been 242 days since my last notable safety incident.

[shy fog]

obviously not factorying hard enough to get osha ADA's attention

[heavy pine]

Nah, I've just got flight and god mode enabled. 😛

[dim flint]

Snow would be wild.

[carmine aspen]

Not every planet has to have seasons

[smoky nimbus]

what's byfar the prettiest base location in the entire game that has at least some resources nearby? i looked at the waterfall in the grass fields, didn't like that, and the northern beach doesn't have enough space for what i'm planning

[dense violet]

build up. infinite space

[smoky nimbus]

it gets to a point where its hard to make it look nice

[dense violet]

depends how yo udesign it https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/932761153703149659/1318079364377743471/image.png?ex=68bdb951&is=68bc67d1&hm=664ca8dfb26f32f896547b60eb447b0c03009613136010a25d0bf0bdb8dc448c&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1232&height=800

[smoky nimbus]

i don't want skyscrapers 😭

[dense violet]

much much harder to make endless sprawl look good or interesting

[smoky nimbus]

cool

i don't want skyscrapers

[stray herald]

I like the crater lake with a SAM ore in the middle
It's South East from the Rocky Desert Spawn, links it to the red forest

[smoky nimbus]

using that for turbofuel

oh you're talking about those crater lakes, not blue crater

[dense violet]

I mean you can also build over northern forest while keeping it flat w/o sky scrapers. but gl

[smoky nimbus]

sure, i'll check it out, thanks

i wanna incorporate the terrain and make it look more organic for my main base

[calm dawn]

what was the site where you upload your world file?

[dim flint]

I really like the grassy fields area tbh. But I'm also growing to like the area of redwoods north of it. Not sure if you mean best for resource nodes though.

[dim flint]

SCIM

[calm dawn]

thanks

[dim flint]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com

[knotty walrus]

I have a theory...

[mellow elm]

Has anyone come across the issue where if you deconstruct something that has uranium in it, your radation meter goes to 100%. But destroying the uranium out of your inventory doesn't remove the radiation? Exiting and re-entering doesn't fix it. The only fix is to die, and go pick up your stuff.

[dim flint]

Crater lake was my first expansion spot. Absolutely love that area.

[dim flint]

Yes

[knotty walrus]

I think that if you have blade runners on and then run -> crouch to slide -> then jump right out of said slide, you might jump higher than if you run -> jump with the bladerunners on

[mellow elm]

Solution other than dying?

[clear cosmos]

How do yall get yalls build so even?

[dim flint]

I don't remember finding one unfortunately.

[dense violet]

it's because uranium goes into your inventory

[dense violet]

planning and foundations mostly

[mellow elm]

Yes. I know.

[dense violet]

dump the uranium

[mellow elm]

I did. Read my message again. 🙂

[dim flint]

You can delete the uranium, but sometimes it would bug and you're still be getting radiated.

[clear cosmos]

I mean like even on both sides of a spliter

[noble topaz]

#screenshots message floating train thing idk what they're called

[dense violet]

save and reload ? it shouldn't bug out unless you sorted your inventory while the uranium was in it

[mellow elm]

Sorted my inventory? What would that do?

[dense violet]

bugs it out and make sradiation permanenet even if yo uget rid of hte items

have to save and reload to get rid of it

[dim flint]

Oh I sort habitually, maybe that was it.

[boreal musk]

thats because you sorted your inventory after you pick up the uranium

it triggers the permanent radiation bug

[surreal meteor]

I found an eye thing on the lower left corner of the map. What is it?https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map#4.5;-128314;283822|gameLayer|limestoneImpure;oilImpure;sulfurImpure;bauxiteImpure;samImpure;geyserImpure;limestoneNormal;coalNormal;oilNormal;sulfurNormal;bauxiteNormal;samNormal;geyserNormal;limestonePure;coalPure;oilPure;sulfurPure;bauxitePure;samPure;oilWellPure;geyserPure;roads;cateriumPure;cateriumNormal;uraniumImpure;uraniumNormal;coalImpure;oilWellImpure;oilWellNormal;copperImpure;copperNormal;copperPure;ironImpure;ironNormal;ironPure;hardDrives;somersloops;mercerSpheres;purpleSlugs

[shrewd palm]

thats pretty cool

probably just an eaaster egg on the map, you should be able to check it out if you want to

[sick dragon]

Thoughts on instant scrap vs the normal alt recipe aluminum loop?

[boreal musk]

instant scrap adds sulfur as additional resources

prob good pair with battery

but my go to alts is always

sloppy + pure

[stark summit]

do you mean a purple orb? made weird noise, maybe distorts space around it?

[stray herald]

I was there yesterday and was wondering why there was nothing in the area lol

Good catch:D

[mellow elm]

That is 100% what it is. If I don't sort, it doesn't happen. Thanks! Annoying....

[zenith pecan]

I went with sloppy & pure as well.

[dense violet]

it's pretty niche, vey little coal+baux next to sulfur

[boreal musk]

its a very easy to replicate bug as well, so im just waiting for it to be fixed

[dense violet]

I doubt it'll happen soon. It's abit of a nothing bug. As far from game braking almost as just vidual glitches

[mellow elm]

I would say being bugged and killing the player is pretty awful. Even if it is avoidable.

Also reloading the save doesn't fix it.

The only fix is dying.

[frank lance]

according to the QA site... its a known bug, "DO NOT SORT YOUR INVENTORY" or you cannot lose the radiation when you delete or get rid of the radiation source

something is wrong with the radiation/autosort of menu

[dense violet]

avoidable rare and trivial to avoid. Almost any bug will rate higher

[zenith pecan]

I never ran into it because I never use the sort feature, I've always put things where I wanted them to my own positions, nasty bug though.

[dense violet]

yeah I've mined uranim by hand like twice in 4000hrs xD

never sorted my inv. Only know about it because random people keep wanting to be the next Marie Curie

[frank lance]

doh @mellow elm i didnt realize someone already said the same thing ... lol,

[zenith pecan]

I've mined by hand fairfly frequently in order to get rid of unwanted radiation from deposits.

[dense violet]

they died doing science

[boreal musk]

i rarely mined uranium unless i want to get the mercer sphere inside the uranium deposit

[mellow elm]

I'm OCD AF. I'm sure there are plenty more like me in this genre of game that use the sort button fairly often. But w/e. Doesn't matter. I know now.

[frank lance]

i think its almost a meme at this point, everyone's first play through the first time you spot a uranium node.. you go hand mine something, and die.... then you go pickup your corpse box, and die again... welcome to satisfactory 🙂

[zenith pecan]

Tbh the sort button actually rearranges things in a manner that does my head in.

[frank lance]

up till you spot uranium, the game trains you "pickup something" - > Examine in MAM - > new tech... oh look uranium, something I can go take to the MAM and examine... nope, you die 🙂

[dense violet]

that happens w/o the bug too though xD

many people have wondered why they were killed by death rocks

like it'll magically stop killing them when in the inventory

'if I put it as close to my body as possible surely it won't harm me then' xD

rubs uranium moisteriser into self

[frank lance]

The game also has a bug, where if you clean up a uranium deposit then "trash" the uranium out of your inventory, the radiation of the area is still there... even though the deposit is gone. Such as the ones piled around some of the HDD spots. if you save after "cleaning up a deposit" then reload that save, the uranium deposit is back, But you can then re-clear it, and re-trash the uranium, but this time its gone, and so is the radiation from the area.

I wonder... . If you accidently "sort" the inventory with uranium in the inventory. can you mine up more uranium... move it into the spot that the old uranium was in... then trash, would the radiation go away then?

[boreal musk]

only one way to find out

[wicked nacelle]

Ask on Reddit!!!

[shy fog]

inform anyone on reddit that it doesn't work

people are more willing to discredit than prove

you don't even need to ask if it's wrong, just declare it doesn't work

[stray herald]

Which Nobelisk is best for deforestation?

[stray herald]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1414073621671837789

[boreal musk]

nuke and cluster

[mortal summit]

Can stuff randomly break? i swear that miners/conveyor belts/power connections keep disappearing at random

[stone python]

since we dont care about the enviroment, nuke the whole thing

flaten it all

[dense violet]

mods? server? multiplayer?

[mortal summit]

multiplayer vanilla

[dense violet]

sometimes due to lag things won't build properly, as in it'll look connected, but won't be

happens more often if you build very fast and have poorer connections

[mortal summit]

its stuff thats been there for hours though and just now happened

[dense violet]

are the pieces actually disapearing?

[mortal summit]

a dismantle crate spawned like 5 minutes ago on a spot (conveyor belts) while me and my friend were like 1000m away

so i dont know whats going on xd

[dense violet]

I haven't messed with MP in a long time, but is it being password protected a possibility? I know you really want a password on a server

[mortal summit]

i mean if there was a 3rd player or somewhat f'ing with us, we would see him on the map or no?

[dense violet]

probalby if you're looking at it while they were on. Just trying to narrow it down

how often has the deletion happened?

just the once?

[mortal summit]

happened the 3rd time on this playthrough and weve been on it for around 20-30hours

[dense violet]

happened with any other map?

[mortal summit]

so like once per 10 hours and im just confused xd

[dense violet]

oih yeah it's super weird

[mortal summit]

i mean its my first time playing so cant really say

[boreal musk]

thats a new 1.1 thing, all excess items that cant go to inventory goes into centralized crate, its supposed to be 100m limit, but somehow it doesnt

[dense violet]

they are talking about this happening on it's own

[wide helm]

its herobrine bro

[dense violet]

belts self deleting

[dense violet]

are you 100% certain your friend wouldn't troll you?

[wide helm]

yea hes sure

[dense violet]

like not a troll or prank bone in their body?

[mortal summit]

i mean i saw him in our base while it happened way too far away

so ye im sure

[dense violet]

you saw the crate come in as it spawned?

that's a bit random

[mortal summit]

i was looking into the direction and it just popped in at the compass

[wide helm]

yea it is. i think its the 2nd time it has happened now

[mortal summit]

while i was like 2k meters away

[wide helm]

3rd*

[dense violet]

weird.
Well, assuming you don't find anything similar using google with a solution, if it keeps happening I might copy past the world to a new save, see if that does anything

it's annoying but it's a good way to save a world with hte save editor

maybe the save file is a bit corrupted

[mortal summit]

i mean it doesnt really affect us as its happening like once per 10 hours im just hella confused

[boreal musk]

does it actually gone or just invisible?

texture issue?

[mortal summit]

i mean it disappears and leaves a dismantle crate even tho nobody was there to dismantle it

[dense violet]

a single section of belt disapearing could, conceivably, crash your entire world factory system if it happens at your power supply

[wide helm]

this shidd is going to turn into a creepy pasta ong

[dense violet]

and later on you get systems that can clog and crash terribly if they stop continuously running

plus how annoying would it be seeing thing start to starve a couple hours after a miner is disconnected from a large system?

[keen coral]

Seems the game has some kind of memory/asset leak when working inside the blueprint designer? After enough pasting/removing blueprints inside the blueprint designer i get a crash with this error

Fatal error: [File:D:\BuildAgent\work\SR11_BT\UE4\Engine\Source\Runtime\CoreUObject\Private\UObject\UObjectArray.cpp] [Line: 534] Maximum number of UObjects (2162688) exceeded when trying to add 1 object(s), make sure you update MaxObjectsInGame/MaxObjectsInEditor/MaxObjectsInProgram in project settings. ```

Any fixes for this or just... deal with it?

[dense violet]

sounds like something to go into #1038092680493801533

[cunning glade]

Is it worth training poly resin too a plant too make more rubber

Cuz I'm setting up a big power factory and after this I'm doing a plastic factory

[zenith pecan]

How big? 😄

[cunning glade]

1275m of poly resin a min

I think

If my math is mathing

[zenith pecan]

I meant the power facility.

[cunning glade]

Uh it's 1700 fuel a min

Idk which number exactly u want maybe my brain isn't real

Cuz RN just planning it with the numbers I have

It's 2550 oil a min

[dense violet]

why not make it on location?

[zenith pecan]

Ahh, not colossal then, mine burns 7200 rocket fuel per minute, shouldn't be too much of an issue to fix if it goes awry.

[dense violet]

but just sinking it is probably easier

[cunning glade]

Cuz this is just for power

That would be 21 refineries for plastic

[cunning glade]

See I'm only on phase 3

[zenith pecan]

Leave yourself room for alterations and expansion.

[manic arrow]

https://imgur.com/a/pPb9oSX

[boreal musk]

you can do 90GW in phase 3

[manic arrow]

would yall consider this spaghetti

[cunning glade]

No clue how much power this is gonna make we will see

[dense violet]

divide your fuel by 20, times 250mw

[cunning glade]

See this plant is super far away from base and expandable

[cunning glade]

Oh ik I don't wanna know the number

[zenith pecan]

This is my current #satisfactory-experimental message , three half kilometre tall towers full of generators and a fourth full of power stores and alien power augmentors.

[cunning glade]

Do u have the refinerys for fuel at the very top?

Cuz that's my plan

Refineries then gens then storage

[zenith pecan]

The refineries and blenders are on the bottom three floors of each tower, since rocket fuel is a gas, I need no pumps to get all the floors gassed up.

[cunning glade]

Thinking building taller wouldn't hurt now

I see I'm still dealing with oil

[zenith pecan]

Are you using dilute packaged or just straight up fuel?

[cunning glade]

Just fuel

[zenith pecan]

That will impact your power some but you should have plenty of byproduct for rubber and plastic.

[sick dragon]

ye its basically you trade the recycling loop for using sulfur

[cunning glade]

That's why I was asking if I should train it too the factory for plastic

[sick dragon]

think ima go with the alts just because i can also make 1600 concrete out of the swamp bauxite

[cunning glade]

Cuz that's next I already have a rubber plant making what 600 a min I think

[zenith pecan]

Why not produce the plastic on site with the power, mine converts its byproducts into 240 rubber, 240 plastic & 4800 steel ingots right next to the three towers.

[cunning glade]

Cuz I plan too have plastic in one spot then train it around

Is the plan atleast

[boreal musk]

from my experience, building vertical factories hurt the game's performance more than 1 floor factory

[cunning glade]

I'm sitting at 260fps at 4k

Rn at least unless it gets below 165hz I don't really care

[zenith pecan]

I moved away from 1 floor factories after some of my older ones swallowed whole biomes by themselves.

[cunning glade]

Real

Ight I'm gonna do a dab and lock in I have so many plans but man building them takes forever

[boreal musk]

its fun, my starter factory used the entire grassy plain

[cunning glade]

Are trains a decent speed?

[boreal musk]

they peaked at 120km/h

[zenith pecan]

This one was large enough and it only handled the final production of uranium fuel #design-and-architecture message 🤣

[cunning glade]

Saw a mod too make them faster and it was tempting

[boreal musk]

but trains isnt about speed, its about transporting item in large throughput

[cunning glade]

Ik but speed is fun

[boreal musk]

also, mods like that will ruin the save if youre not using it, so that entire save will depend on it

same with infinite splines

[cunning glade]

Infinite splines?

[boreal musk]

you can place belts, wires, pipes, and rail as long as you want

each segment

[cunning glade]

Ah that seems very nice and exactly what I wanted at one point

[shy fog]

*finally finishes leading edge production

[boreal musk]

but it does makes them into different entities and will be gone if you load the save without the mod

breaking everything related to it

so i never really touched these kind of mods unless im going full modded save

[shy fog]

I think I should really stop hand building now...

[cunning glade]

I see I only have small mods as it's supposed too be a mostly vanilla save

[stray herald]

Is this tree destructible?
https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1414086102482026566

[shrewd palm]

no the big trees arentr

almost all others are tho

[topaz shale]

That's how the daisy chain smart input machine mod works. Seperate buildings for the smart inputs.

[shrewd palm]

and there are a couple big trees in/around the titan forest that are filled with power slugs

[stray herald]

Can trains crash into them?

[shrewd palm]

trains dont have any collision with terrain/buildings, only other trains and maybe (?) other vehicles

[stray herald]

Thanks!:)

Your username sounds like a Souls boss lol

[shrewd palm]

yes

souls boss of never going outside

[stray herald]

😭

[limpid cairn]

Honestly going outside these days is kinda not needed

You can get literally everything online and delivered to you these days 😂

[shut valley]

if i have a power plant offsite and i wanna see how much power i have left to work with, whats the best way to check without going to the source?

[shrewd palm]

check a power pole

machines that make power and power poles show your production stats and everything

so do augmenters

[shut valley]

ahhh sweet cheers

[outer scarab]

I'm thinking of doing a city grid. maybe a block of 4 11x11 buildings surrounded by a road?

Not sure how to incorporate the environment though, hem

[desert pier]

does anyone know how to remove my friends body that’s on the ground?

like when he logged off of my world

[outer scarab]

is he not dead?

punch it until he dies

[desert pier]

gotcha thank you

[shrewd palm]

dont think you can

theres a truck with one of my friends epic accounts on there that i cant get rid of

[desert pier]

I hope so lmao i only invited him to look at the world now his body is here lmao

[shrewd palm]

and they dont play satisfactory on epic so its there forever

[sturdy jacinth]

if i need plastic, etc. to make something like circuit boards, what is the best way to move that over a potentially long distance? should i move the crude oil and process it at the destination? this would also give more flexibility to produce other crude oil-based items

[shrewd palm]

im pretty sure theres someone else in the middle of the ocean that i gave a tour to before i took down the factory there

[desert pier]

lmfaoo

[shrewd palm]

for small amounts (like under 600) its probably best to use drones

[sturdy jacinth]

i dont have access to drones yet :(

[shrewd palm]

if higher than that and/or over long distance (like the entire map) probably best to use a train

if its only a biome or two i'd probably just belt it over

[sturdy jacinth]

when you say belt it, do you mean package + belt, or use pipelines? specifically for fluids

or do you mean, produce whatever items i need at the source, then belt that

[shrewd palm]

make the plastic somewhere else (using all the oil from a biome like the golden coast with a recycling loop will be more than enough) and then move that around however you like

[outer scarab]

What I do is I ship the resin on a belt to my base then make it by some water

[sturdy jacinth]

hkmm ok. if i need to make multiple crude oil-based items at a base, should i still follow that practice, or just move the raw stuff (crude oil/resin/whatever)

[shrewd palm]

whatever's best for you

i have a big plastic/rubber factory and then i can move that around however

if it needs some other oil product im usually building somewhere where theres a couple oil nodes or a well fairly close by

[boreal musk]

or just move anything you need to the oil site?

i rather bring solid than fluids

[sturdy jacinth]

why?

[boreal musk]

bcs its easier

[shrewd palm]

fluids are a pain to do long distance

[sturdy jacinth]

due to height or just being buggy

[shrewd palm]

its more efficient to package and throw into a regular freight car rather than a fluid freight car

if you want to do drones you have to package them

i havent had any problems with piping over long distance, although it can be easy to miss a pump

[slate python]

How do you do the strait up or slant part of a hypertube cannon

[outer scarab]

you mean raising one end?

[slate python]

Yes

How do I do that

[shrewd palm]

make a hypertube and when you're placing the last support dont double click

click once to get the location, then you can move it up/down and holding ctrl + scroll will rotate it

and then clicking again will place

[slate python]

My keyboard doesn’t have an page up key only the little 4 arrow keys in the bottom right

[coral glacier]

yes

[slate python]

What

[coral glacier]

yes

[slate python]

What is the page up key

[coral glacier]

Those are the Pg Up/Dn keys

[sturdy jacinth]

is there a way to make lizard doggo sit

[shrewd palm]

all you need is regular keyboard stuff and a scroll wheel

[slate python]

The why do they only mage it horizontally

[coral glacier]

Your profile picture is hilarious 🤣

[sturdy jacinth]

i dont want to leave him stranded

[shrewd palm]

ty

[sturdy jacinth]

how far will he follow me

[shrewd palm]

you can lock them in pens

and i want to say theres a way to make them sit but i dont know how, the only lizard doggo i've had is probably dead

and if it isnt i have no idea where it would be

[coral glacier]

oof

[outer scarab]

is there an always day concol command?

[shut valley]

if i drive a car off of a cliff will it explode lol

[shrewd palm]

nope

[shut valley]

sweet 🙂

[outer scarab]

its actaully a good way to get down early game

love me a fiscit kart

[coral glacier]

If you drive a vehicle into into the void it stays there forever.
Along with the added recommendation that you do not drive any vehicle into the void at all, because doing it too many times will cause your game to lag.

[shut valley]

good to know ty lol

[wicked nacelle]

You may be able to delete it in SCIM. Not sure

But yeah constantly doing it trying to get rid of nuclear waste isn’t a good idea

[coral glacier]

That too

[wicked nacelle]

That’s what doggos are for

Or spending a LOT of time on the toilet

[coral glacier]

Me: "Stupid FICSIT for not letting me flush radioactive materials down the commode."

[wicked nacelle]

Wait you can’t?

[coral glacier]

(FICSIT is not stupid, this is a joke)

[coral glacier]

Nope!
You cannot flush uranium/plutonium waste down the toilet.

Used to be that you could destroy plutonium waste in an awesome sink, but even that doesn't work anymore.

Although you can turn plutonium waste into ficsonium fuel rods which don't produce waste when burned.

[wicked nacelle]

Not since I started playing. If you burned plutonium you were stuck with the waste

Before 1.0 from when I started

[shrewd palm]

just sink the plutonium rods

[coral glacier]

But i want to have more power :(

[shrewd palm]

not really any point in burning them tbh, uranium gives you all the power you need and ficsonium isnt worth it

[coral glacier]

But i must have ALL OF THE REACTORS!

Ficsonium i just use as a "dump"

[shrewd palm]

if you're going with a max setup at least, if you're not using every last ounce of uranium you're probably better off with rocket fuel

[coral glacier]

How many uranium reactors can the game handle?

[shrewd palm]

with all the uranium you get 252 reactors

101 if you overlock

[coral glacier]

and with the waste converted to plutonium?

[shrewd palm]

and if you go with plutonium + ficsonium you roughly double that

[coral glacier]

huh.

[shrewd palm]

a little bit more, iirc a maxed out setup going all the way to ficsonium is 1.4TW

im not sure if sloops are involved with that tho

all uranium gets you 630GW

without sloops*

[coral glacier]

Oooo, now we're getting into Dyson Sphere Program level power generation. >:)

[shrewd palm]

although this is without any converter shenanigans to make uranium or anything

i think the true max amount of uranium fuel rods is like 220 fuel rods or something with converters and sloops

[coral glacier]

I'm making a large plutonium plant, but i'm starting to think the game won't be able to support it.

[shrewd palm]

my nuclear plant runs at 20fps lmao

most of the time its between 10 and 20

[coral glacier]

and uh, how many reactors is that?

[shrewd palm]

100 reactors all overclocked

[coral glacier]

Oh no.

[shrewd palm]

50.4 fuel rods/min

and then turning the waste into 12.6 plutonium rods

[coral glacier]

Is the waste to fuel ratio for uranium to plutonium 1:5 or 1:2?

[shrewd palm]

depends on the recipe

[boreal musk]

you will get more power by using half of those sam to convert into uranium than using it for ficsonium

[shrewd palm]

im using the combo of recipes thats the best for getting rid of waste

[coral glacier]

For my uranium section, that's gonna be the opposite.

Most waste possible for the plutonium reactor fuel production.

[shrewd palm]

if i was using the most efficient recipes it would be roughly close to 1:2

50.4:22.4

[coral glacier]

mmm

[shrewd palm]

thats the funny thing with ficsonium

[rugged ore]

H

[grand dew]

hi

[strong fiber]

yo guys

[coral glacier]

Anyone know how to align two water extractors with a pipe junction?

[boreal musk]

place the junction first and then hold ctrl the extractor to the junction?

it wont work if the junction is too high

[coral glacier]

Didn't work

[outer scarab]

it might clip into something and not work also

[coral glacier]

Junction is very close to the same level

[sullen gull]

Ahhhh, good to be home. Let the building continue! Oh, and hey all ya pioneers! 👋

[outer scarab]

is it on a foundation? that might help

[sullen gull]

I usually use a wall and pipe wall hole

[coral glacier]

Yes, it is

[shrewd palm]

A good thing to do with water extractors is to place foundations a couple meters below the water surface

[outer scarab]

is there any reason to not do it the other way?

[shrewd palm]

Then you can snap them to foundation and it makes lining them up a lot easier

[outer scarab]

you can just hold ctrl and they snap too

[coral glacier]

Yep, exactly what i did initially

[outer scarab]

it wont snap if there is another pump near it and it will clip it

or if its too shallow

[heavy pine]

It amuses me that I can crouch and use my jetpack to approach a hatcher without alerting it to open up and spew bugs at me.

[coral glacier]

Amazing bug

10/10

[sullen gull]

It's just the pioneer being extra sneaky in the air! 😏

[feral geyser]

It is finally complete. I joined a world from someone here, and I finally made the ultimate Pioneer Industrial Safety and Security factory.

Standard, Shatter, Stun, and Explosive rebars at 10/min
Nobelisk at 10/min; pulse, cluster, and gas at 5/min (gas has a biomass tank we can fill as needed -.- )
Rifle ammo at 225/min, turbo ammo at 250/min, homing ammo at 25/min.
Gas filters and iodized filters, each at 3.75/min.

Everything is made in-house except aluminum casings, which are flown in. All outputs are buffered and depoted.

[heavy pine]

Pioneer Industrial Safety and Security? So you're taking the PISS?

[feral geyser]

Precisely

It will go well to equip my FEET (Forward Exploration and Examination Team)

Listen, if you aren't coming up with bullshit acronyms, are you even doing space travel?

[heavy pine]

I used to be a member of a group in City of Heroes that was called the Super Human Investigation Team. Until someone took issue with our acronym and reported it to the GM's.

[feral geyser]

Hella rude

[rigid glen]

I was on thatgame for 7 years, I miss it frequently

[outer scarab]

Acronyms are the life blood of the Military. I have seen entire reports where only acronyms were used

[heavy pine]

You can play it again; there are a few server groups, but Homecoming actually has a license from NCSoft to run the game legit.

[solid storm]

Kinda wish there was a take/do not take toggle for the dimensional storage so it doesn't take items from there first when crafting and I have that item in my inventory. That way I wouldn't have to keep filling it up after crafting.

[outer scarab]

there is

[rigid glen]

I've been onn Homecoming, it's not the same without my friends, but it's a nostalgic visit for sure

[outer scarab]

you can set it to use form your invintory first or last

[solid storm]

where is that setting?

[feral geyser]

Open inventory, check box there

[rigid glen]

above the upper left search bar, or just below it

[heavy pine]

A checkbox on your inventory. "TAke from inventory before depot"

[outer scarab]

"Man I really wish the game would throw down the item I'm placing in the wrong spot because my mouse moved 1 micron when pushing mouse 1" said no one ever

[solid storm]

Awesome...thank you

[outer scarab]

anyone use the water gyser?

[rigid glen]

Do you mean the water pressure well or the small geyser hole for power?

[sullen gull]

Thermal generator? Or water well?

@coral glacier #screenshots message

LIke this?

[coral glacier]

Yes, that

I was trying to align it using different height methods with foundations, but i didn't think of that 🤔 Thanks!

[sullen gull]

I feel that the majority of the time, the answer is always beams 🤣

[sullen gull]

Fyi, I set the distance between the extractors by placing a wall on either side of the foundation, and then nudging in x2

[coral glacier]

interesting

[sullen gull]

Another way is to do that, and then run a pipe between, then snap the junction to the pipe. Only 'issue' with that method is having something for the junction to snap to so it is dead center. Otherwise the junction has to be lined up 'manually' it seems.

Unless someone else knows a way around that.

Personally, the beam method is my "go-to"

[wary perch]

I WANT TEA IN MY COFFEE CUP

[sullen gull]

I meeeean ... it just says it's a "cup" ... It technically can have what every you want in it ... no?

I think, you mean to say, you want a tea dispenser in the hub? 😏

[heavy pine]

Woo, Mk.6 belts baby! Get them parts zipping around and Mach Eleventy Bajillion

[upper gale]

If they add tea they have to add a spilling mechanic
And then we spill the tea

[sullen gull]

Real "knee slapper" 🤣

[upper gale]

Yes that too

[coral glacier]

I gotcha, as someone who needs things to be perfectly aligned, not only for aesthetics but for efficiency also, this helps a lot.

[sullen gull]

Lol, I feel that all too well 😏

[coral glacier]

And i don't have any mental characteristics that i know of either so that may or may not be a thing

[boreal musk]

well even if you align the junction with extractor, you still need to aligns the pipes going straight

[sullen gull]

Did ya watch the vidjya?

They are straight 😏

[boreal musk]

not the pipe from extractor to junction, but from junction to the foundation

bcs the pipe support is higher than the nudged junction

and you need to do it every segment

[upper gale]

More nudged junctions then

[sullen gull]

Do the same method with another junction.

[upper gale]

That's a lot of work

[boreal musk]

exactly

[sullen gull]

But, at some point, it will have to go up to the floor junction height, yes .

[cobalt blaze]

Hello, can someone help me? I want to add one thread to the looking-for-group, but when I write it, I can't click on 'Post'.

[coral glacier]

That's odd

Should be a large blue button

Try reloading discord

[trim token]

anyone know of any glitches in the game like dupe glitches or somehting

[upper gale]

Does it require a tag maybe

[solid storm]

Do you need to pick a category as well before the blue button lights up?

tag

[cobalt blaze]

Yes it does

What I do with that?

[upper gale]

It just gives people some information about your post

Pick a few and then try posting

[coral glacier]

When i place things like foundations and overall buildings, as they spawn in, the orange forming VFX happens, and i get a lag spike.
Does anyone know if there is a way i can turn a setting down like lowering the visuals of this effect or something to reduce fps loss?

I would fix this myself but unfortunately i don't know everything.

[sullen gull]

Afaik, there is not a way. Outside of maybe a mod.

If you've been running for a bit, maybe try to save and reload.

[coral glacier]

I've done that, seems to be doing it regardless 🤔

Me to Mikael: "This is nice, but my computer doesn't like it. So it needs a toggle switch in the video sub-section of the options-section menu "

[sullen gull]

Perhaps by lowering some of the video settings to not tax the card/computer as much would be my first guess.

[coral glacier]

I could try lowering the VFX, see if that works

Appears to be the VFX setting 🤔

That makes sense since it's probably loading in the texture and the light dynamics at the same time.

And with multiple foundations being spawned in at the same time it buffers? 🤔

[boreal musk]

that happens to me when i place my 1st million foundation

[sullen gull]

If you're doing Infinite zoop, or laying down blueprinted foundation slabs, then yeah, bit taxing.

[boreal musk]

blueprint also lagged the shit of my game as well, especially when using them a lot at once

[coral glacier]

Ironically it doesn't happen with the blueprinted foundation and only when i do it one at a time.

[sullen gull]

It's punishing you for not being more efficient 🤣

[coral glacier]

I AM BEING EFFICIENT

🤣

[sullen gull]

Anyone pretty much always disable fog? I'm torn.

[boreal musk]

not much, disabling fog makes everything looks darker with lumen

[dim dock]

is there a setup for making fuel cannisters from crude oil without any sink? perhaps a combination of recipes

[boreal musk]

you can

by using said byproduct to make alien power matrix

[sullen gull]

At some point though, something will be going to the sink if you wanted it to keep chugging.

[boreal musk]

oh wait i misread, canister as in packaged fuel?

its just simple loop

packager > refinery > unpackager > loop back to packager

[vale grotto]

I mean, if the only requirement is no sinking, you can just use the oil -> fuel recipe, use polymer resin to plastic to canisters, package fuel, then any overflow fuel goes to a fuel generator

[boreal musk]

that packaged fuel will still backed up, resulting to backed up plastic to backed up resin

[dim dock]

i was hoping based on the output of different recipe routes, 1:1 could perhaps be achieved in some way.

[boreal musk]

well no, you want continuous production? use sinks

you already in refinery stage, sink only cost 30MW, its not that much

[dim dock]

it's not that. i wanted to make a mini setup for packagers without using any sink

[boreal musk]

doesnt matter how small or big, the byproduct you dont want to use will backed up and kill the main production

[dim dock]

that's why i said combination of recipes. whether using the right ratio of different recipes could get a 1:1 at the end

[coral glacier]

I love when flying that i drop down on a foundation at the exact moment to start flying again i get locked in a stand-still pose.

[dense violet]

You could just use non oil recipes for cannisters

[coral glacier]

I just float towards things. 🤣

[dim dock]

the challenge is CO -> packaged fuel, no sink, no genny, no extra inputs

[dense violet]

Then no.

Look at the wiki to confirm. Should be easy enough

[boreal musk]

good luck trying to figure that out

[dense violet]

I’m not sure why that would be a ‘challenge’ though even if possible, just a recipe chain

Like you can do super computers with just oil and caterium, but that’s not a ‘challenge’

[feral geyser]

if you're okay with adding water, then yes, with a balance of the standard and residual recipes, you can get it to work

[dim dock]

my bad. yes water is allowed for the residual recipes

i was thinking... two recipe routes side by side. when one resource backs up, the other recipe takes over until something backs up again. atleast that way it'll keep going.

[feral geyser]

hmmmm

[boreal musk]

that residual recipes will get backed up at one point

[dense violet]

you still get by product with the resin recipe

[dim dock]

water + resin = plastic, which can be routed back into the cannister recipe

[dense violet]

well water is an extra input but yeah go wild I guess

[feral geyser]

of course you still get byproduct, but HOR can be turned into fuel, resins can be turned into plastic.

[boreal musk]

the amount of plastic you get from byproduct resin are more/less than you need from the packaging

its not 1:1

[dim dock]

yeah water is allowed because otherwise resins get backed up

[dense violet]

then just use teh recycled plastic/rubber loop

[feral geyser]

with balancing?

[dense violet]

it's fairly standard

[boreal musk]

what balancing has to do?

[dim dock]

exactly. it would be a combination of the 'CO -> Plastic' recipe and HOR recipe

[dim dock]

that's overkill

[dense violet]

oil > HOR > diluted fuel > reycycled plastic, use the resin as the starter

shrug it's efficient. Just use less oil

[dim dock]

but yeah, that works i guess.

[outer scarab]

Is there a way to delete stuff you put through the ground without noclip mod?

[dense violet]

then yeah if you allow water it's easy and probalby the most common way to make plastic

[dim dock]

yeah water is allowed. like i said, else resin goes to waste. if it's not and i go for primary recipes, i'd be creating too much plastic and not enough fuel

[dim dock]

i've tried and failed tbh. unless they allowed some mechanics post 1.0

[boreal musk]

whats the reason youre against sink anyway?

[dim dock]

no reason. just a challenge.

[feral geyser]

closed-loop engineering is part of the fun of refineries/blenders

[boreal musk]

its not like aluminum where waste water is less than what we need for the solutions

its easy to recycle it back

[feral geyser]

that is indeed one of the fun things

like my scrap blenders, you give em just the difference and let em "simmer"

[sleek token]

what are the lights I see people using to outline structures called?

[dim dock]

my first implementation of that aluminum water setup was using a train to pick up waste water first, before picking up fresh water. worked like a charm. no backing up.

[feral geyser]

probbly signs

[outer scarab]

if you dont want to use a sink then store the resin until you use more plastic than you can make

[feral geyser]

set them all white and turn off the emission strength

[outer scarab]

I always need a ton of plastic end game

[dim dock]

storing beats the point of an efficient setup

[feral geyser]

yeah, y'all are missing their point

[outer scarab]

then use up the plastic sooner than later

[feral geyser]

the point is, crude (+ water) in, packaged fuel only out

[outer scarab]

or use more coal power

[feral geyser]

if the whole recycling loop is overkill, you could make whatever amount of plastic, then dilute HOR with a blender until you make enough fuel to consume all the plastic

[boreal musk]

the amount of plastic you can make from resin byproduct isnt enough for the canisters, you will inevitable need other resources to make up with the canister demand

not enough canister = more fuel = fuel backing up = no resin

[feral geyser]

even with the PolyRes recipe?

[dim dock]

yeah. that's what i'm thinking. let the system balance itself out. diluted fuel and direct plastic

[boreal musk]

that recipe will give you more than enough, the resin will backed up instead

its just not possible

[dim dock]

in production it'll automatically produce based on which resource isn't backing up.

[boreal musk]

if you backing up on fuel, your resin production stopped cuz its a byproduct

no resin = no plastic = no canisters made

you will eventually need some gens to burn the overflow fuel

[dim dock]

i'm thinking make the CO -> Plastic + HOR on a higher altitude than HOR -> Diluted fuel recipe. that way when plastic gets produced, HOR won't clog the system.

[feral geyser]

so if HOR recipe gives you too much HOR and not enough PR, and PR recipe gives you too much PR and not enough HOR, then there must be a sweet spot somewhere in between

[dim dock]

but yeah. depending on autobalancing isn't as reliable if i can get the numbers exact.

[boreal musk]

no, the other will still backed up

theres no sweet spot or anything

[dim dock]

time to solve some simultanous equations.

[boreal musk]

the only way to do this without gen or sink IS to bring another resources to keep up with the each side demands

[boreal musk]

normal plastic recipe with diluted fuel?

you get more canister than the fuel you make, the canisters will clog the system

[dense violet]

they said no generators

[dim dock]

there is a way to do it by finding the LCM, i'm trying to see if there's an HCF before that.

[boreal musk]

heres some math

60 oil > 40 plastic + 20 hor > 80 canisters + 40 fuel (diluted fuel) > you still left with 40 canister overflow

[feral geyser]

You basically need 2 parts fuel, 1 part plastic, cuz the plastic goes 1:2 into containers

[dim dock]

yeah... although i think i'll tinker with hard drives a bit. before diluted fuel, the recipe hits 1/3 on fuel too much. diluted fuel should make the ratio a bit better.

[feral geyser]

And also, you can do diluted packaged fuel, so that might save blenders.

[boreal musk]

i already did all the possible recipes and theres just no way to keep them from clogging without sink/generators

[dim dock]

yeah that's the one. blenders yet to be unlocked on this playthrough

[spark hawk]

Im having issues trying to keep my eletrical grids going, and i have no source of biofuel to collect passively

yet

[feral geyser]

There is no such passive source in the game, you are supposed to get to coal power in Tier 3.

[dim dock]

did you try combining recipes parallelly? Lowest Common Multiple says it should be possible.

[spark hawk]

so i will need to continuously harvest leaves and wood until then?

[boreal musk]

i did, its either too much canisters or too much fuel

no inbetween

[feral geyser]

If you have a chainsaw, go devastate a forest for a little while, then bust you butt to tier 3 and get coal power.

[boreal musk]

...

[dim dock]

alright, i'll hit the maths and see if something comes of it.

[boreal musk]

ping me if you really did find something

[spark hawk]

how soon do i get a chainsaw

[feral geyser]

That's just the thing, is, there is in-betweens, so i think you're wrong.

[feral geyser]

Tier 2 - Obstacle Clearing

[dim dock]

yes i'll go unlock the packaged diluted fuel recipe first so i can dive into the number properly.

[boreal musk]

whats the reason you think im wrong

[dim dock]

coal power not unlocked?

[feral geyser]

Intermediate value theorem

[boreal musk]

have u applied that for this exact scenario?

[feral geyser]

That's what we're working on

[dim dock]

when you have one recipe that produces more of item 1, and another recipe that produces more of item 2, then having those recipes in a certain ratio could produce 1:1. that's what simultaneous equations are for.

[feral geyser]

And you're saying it's too much one way or the other

But there is a continuous slider from one side to the other, so there must be a sweet spot.

[boreal musk]

certain ratio could produce 1:1

thats just mean its not mini build anymore

the number gets bigger and bigger

[feral geyser]

?

[dim dock]

that is the challenge. to see if it can be a smaller number. i already know it's possible with bigger numbers. raw multipliers it's definitely possible.

[blissful atlas]

is it possible to lift up the quartz/sam in the cave in the north east to the surface instead of moving all the way back round the tunnel

[dim dock]

not to mention we also have underclocking/overclocking. that will help with the 'mini' part.

[sullen gull]

You "could" clip through the ceiling 🤷‍♂️

[blissful atlas]

the distance seems to be way past how far 1 lift could go though

[sullen gull]

You can use conveyor floor holes.

[blissful atlas]

oh

that clips the surface?

like it drills a hole through and through?

[sullen gull]

Click to start it in the cave, hold it, run out and up to the surface, and clip it to the bottom of another.

[blissful atlas]

ahhh

[sullen gull]

It just allows for basically an infinite length lift

[stray herald]

Are hypertubes slower than trains?

[dim dock]

if the depth is more than the max length of one stretch of conveyor lift, it'll be difficult to clip it through

[dim dock]

no it doesn't... did they change it in 1.0?

[sullen gull]

Depends on how many entrances you have stacked to give "Oompf"

[sullen gull]

No, It was that way in U8 as well...

[stray herald]

Let's assume one or two

[blissful atlas]

wdym

[sullen gull]

🤷‍♂️

[stray herald]

I'm guessing trains would be faster?

[dim dock]

floor-hole to floor-hole can be infinite?

[sullen gull]

Never tried "infinite" .... but pretty damn long with my expierence.

[dim dock]

pretty damn long is not infinite.

[coral glacier]

With one end of the map to the other? :)

[sullen gull]

Since I am near there ... gimme a few miniutes.

[coral glacier]

The map is only so large, haha

[sullen gull]

Well, I would put money on that you can span one from kill height down ...

[dim dock]

in my experience conveyor lifts max out at somewhere around 50meters. that's 10~15 foundations

[sullen gull]

In the sense of accessibility of the world, I'd say that's "infinite" enough 😏

[open viper]

Hello

[dim dock]

not even close.

[sullen gull]

🙄 K

[dim dock]

getting coal from a node to the train station takes 3~4 of those stretches

vertically

[open viper]

I have not gotten to trains yet

[dim dock]

trains are fun 😌

[open viper]

I know

Kibitz

[coral glacier]

pat pat

Oh wait

[open viper]

?

[spark hawk]

i really feel stupid to ask how i put the fuel in the chainsaw

[coral glacier]

not you

[coral glacier]

pat pat

[open viper]

Who????

Oh

Nimv

[coral glacier]

Not everyone understand the map is not infinite 😆

[solid storm]

just have solid biomass in your inv

[dim dock]

i think you just leave it in the inventory... maybe have to set default fuel type from equipments interface (toolbelt in equipment/inventory screen)

[coral glacier]

That was really weird, sorry about that 😅

[sullen gull]

The eye roll is just because I have to now take the time to prove it 😏

[open viper]

Has anyone here gone around the WHOLE map in just a factory cart?

[open viper]

It’s fine

Im used to it

[coral glacier]

I had no intention whatsoever, i should've been more aware of what i was doing.
Lots of buttons.

[dim dock]

the map isn't infinite. but compared to the 50meters of conveyor lift's max length, it's quite a lot.

[open viper]

[coral glacier]

Would you have a lizard doggo irl OR a nuclear power plant

[open viper]

Liz dog

He gives me stuff

Including nuclear waste

[dim dock]

if floor holes allow bypassing this limit, then sure.

[rustic hare]

ofc a lizard doggo

[dim dock]

the first thing a lizard doggo ever gave me was nuclear waste

[sullen gull]

Firstly, Miss pedantic, I said "basically" infinite. Secondly, it does NOT cap out at 50 m... here is just the start: (156m) #screenshots message

[coral glacier]

I honestly prefer a nuclear power plant because it, with proper maintenance, can live forever.

:)

And ofc refueling.

Waste processing, etc.

[sullen gull]

If you could somehow turn off the world limits, then, yes, you could go to "infinity", if you don't fry the pc or die building it first (irl)

[dim dock]

ok that's interesting. i guess i never tried aiming at the other floor hole. i concede

[blissful atlas]

wait i cant hold the conveyer floor hole

[sullen gull]

The hardest part is going to be getting it all aligned.

Sec.

@dim dock Even farther... (Not going to continue to the edge... "I aint be bovverd" ) #screenshots message

[blissful atlas]

hmm

[sullen gull]

That last one ended up making 316m

[plucky plank]

what is the most efficient radio control unit recipe

[sullen gull]

I've an idea ... gimme a few .

[blissful atlas]

doing it in plain sight is easy

im thinking of using power towers to get the location of the hole

then just follow the wire down

[vale grotto]

Efficient by what metric?

[sullen gull]

Actually, you can just lay a foundation down where you want it to go up from below, or from above, and just nudge it in the z direction. It will nudge through the terrain

[dense violet]

there is no single 'most efficient' recipe

[blissful atlas]

power then puts 2 bajillion machines underclock at 1% efficiency

[plucky plank]

i want to be using the least amount of oil as possible

[vale grotto]

Radio Connection Unit can be done with zero oil