satisfactory

[rustic hare]

also some of my factories work fine with 2 mk2 pipes transporting 600/min but not 1 pipe oddly enough lol

[cosmic junco]

yeah, i have factories using 600 just fine as well, but i've since learned to target less as it's much easier to pull off

though often times a loopback pipe on the manifolds allow it to work

[silk rose]

any way to mute elevator music?

[rustic hare]

I kinda learned to target 599/min then 1 pipe works fine, a round 600/min just doesn't seem to work, like 600m^3/min of rocket fuel should fuel 144 gens, but it's only stable fueling 143.5 gens

[cosmic junco]

i personally target 300/min in my RF setup

that allows me to sloop the blenders in order to fill the pipes, and operate with lots of headroom normally

[fluid sapphire]

slooping to fill pipes is a gigabrain move, its not mentioned often enough

[rustic hare]

idk if the game is fucking with me, but same thing happens with water coming into my alu plant lol, the mk2 pipe with pumps displaying 600m^3/min does just a little lesss than that and my refineries are stuck at 97%-99% efficiency just because it runs out of water once in a while

[cosmic junco]

it's not the game fucking up no

it's intended to be difficult, 600/min is the absolute max

[rustic hare]

aready did pre-fill the pipes btw

[cosmic junco]

so if it ever drops below for any reason (such as backflow), it is impossible to average 600

[rustic hare]

oh right, backflow, that sucks

[languid marlin]

so I shouldnt have a full mk2 pipe going into my oil refinery?

[cosmic junco]

but often times, just create a loopback pipe on your manifold

and problems go away

so the end of the manifold connects to the start of the manifold

that allows for some slosh in the pipes

[rustic hare]

I'll try that

[reef basin]

usually looping the pipe fixes it

[honest summit]

is there a battry or something cause my 4 coal generators work weirdly and keep popping the fuse even though they have moree than enough power

[stray herald]

Can you show us your setup? #screenshots

Can you show me the coal generators

Both the inputs and the control panel in one of the coal generators

Okay looks fine to me

So unplug all the generators

Wait until they all have 100 coal and the belt is full of coal

Then replug them in one by one

[honest summit]

the water doesnt seem to be going in all that fast

i unplugged 2 so there are 2 and the water generator makes enough for 3 i think but they are still not full of water

[stray herald]

Can you show me your pipes?

[honest summit]

never mind it works i think

[stray herald]

The idea with power plants is to always fill them up before starting them

[honest summit]

yea they are and then i plug in 2 water things and then they fuse blow

[stray herald]

A good system is the manifold, I can show you how I do mine:)

[reef basin]

why in screenshots, we can't write there

just go to #1038092680493801533

[honest summit]

anytime i use over like 20 MW they blow even though they have water and coal so they should make 140 MW

[stray herald]

My behavior in this Discord is the same as the game, morbidly inefficient

[stray herald]

HJow much coal is IN them?

[honest summit]

filled

the water is somehow the issue i dont get why tho, i have 2 water things

[stray herald]

So it's a water issue, can you post screenshots of the entire pipe in #1038092680493801533 ?

[rustic hare]

hey so adding just one loopback pipe fixed it, who would have guessed 😂 thinking about it, I built the alu plant when I didn't know much about fluids

[unkempt blade]

Yeah but are you having fun with it? That's what matters. Also go use some factory carts!

[rancid flume]

My lv 2 iron factory is now done :)

Now to mess around making a better concrete factory so I can’t ship it for encased beams

10 rip, 10 mod frames, 10.6 rotors should do me for now untill I find a nice spot to do a bigger one

This is after making a 4x8:3 coal gen setup. Feels super nice having a large amount of headroom

[fluid sapphire]

i remember building my first coal plant a year ago, feels nostalgic now xd

[rancid flume]

My first was pretty small and am absolute mess. That was last run. This runs one is super organised and 4 times bigger

Went from 240mw on biomass to 2.4gw on coal

Later I’ll find another coal place to do another if I need it

[unkempt blade]

and then back to biomass with 24 GW!

[naive scroll]

i unlocked fuel and suddenly i stopped playing xD

feels overwhelming a little

[unkempt blade]

take a deep breath and go build a factory cart skate park until it feels less overwhelming

[rancid flume]

Liquid bio?

[neon summit]

Just a random question, what would you concider a spagetthi belt?

[reef basin]

a belt with spaghetti on it

[rancid flume]

I never actually played with liquid bio. I planned to set one up to depo myself fuel for jet packs when I can and trucks

Usually my fuel generators are just overflow for my plastics and rubber lol

[fluid sapphire]

for me, clipping or unorganized, one or both of these

[rancid flume]

A belt not placed with the straight build mode

Multiple infact

[neon summit]

It just always feels like i plan something out and it doesnt work

[unkempt blade]

it definitely has a red sauce and meatballs otherwise it's not actually spaghetti

[languid marlin]

can't even trust the straight build mode, the turns arent an exact 90 degree turn

[rancid flume]

Maybe with liquid biofuel I can run an rtx 5090!

[fluid sapphire]

my belts often dont turn out perfect either, just kinda settle in the end for something that looks more or less OK

[rancid flume]

Cleaner than what I’d end up doing lol

[true mulch]

straight mode seemingly has a bigger turn radius

[unkempt blade]

that's just learning to play the game, you're probably doing great 😄

[neon summit]

Thanks

[true mulch]

so for tight connections it can fail to actually remain straight, opposed to the default

[languid marlin]

oh is that what it is?

[true mulch]

it's not by much but that's from my brief observation

in cases where the default belt mode would make a 90 degree turn into an input and end, straight mode fails because it can't turn like that

[languid marlin]

I just know that when you do a straight build mode around a tight turn and build off of it, you don't get the visual confirmation that its straight

[true mulch]

feel free to play around with it with that in mind

I'm also interested in the details of this

[tardy swift]

hey guys how are you?

[rancid flume]

Iike to plan around straight mode anyway

[fluid sapphire]

i have this grand idea that i am gonna make some really cool belt systems but then the end result is always something like this, with a few bumps and a patchwork of stuff
#screenshots message

[rancid flume]

Unless in specific cases then I do it myself

[languid marlin]

yeah fs, I just find myself using default and being all perfectionist with it

just to be safe

[neon summit]

that is CRAZY orginized compared to me 😭

[tardy swift]

i have a bit of a strange question

[fluid sapphire]

its just leaving some space, right angles, and leveraging floor holes sometimes, not a lot to it

[neon summit]

Alright I'll keep it in mind

[fluid sapphire]

i try to bundle stuff together where i can

like here the belts on top of pipes and whatnot

[tardy swift]

ive just started playing and i unlocked all tiers 1, 2, 3 and 4, now i have to do the second step for the space elevator but i need steel to do it, as well as iron. where i placed my space elevator there is no iron near coal so how do i make this efficent without making super long treadmills?

[languid marlin]

you dont need to build where you built your space elevater, explore and expand to build where coal might be closer

[mortal ginkgo]

Tractors and Truck Stations. You can bring coal with a Tractor to iron node and also feed it Coal as fuel at the same time

you can also remove elevator and rebuild it somewhere where there is coal and iron together

however I think no starter area has it like this to make you explorer, use long distance, or rebuild somewhere else etc

what game doesn't tell you is it is ok to remove Elevator and put it somewhere else

[tardy swift]

i see! didnt consider trucks at all cause theyre a bit messy with the driving but ill try!

[astral gyro]

I built steel where there was both and truck it back home

[tardy swift]

even if i already delivered some of the stuff?

[mortal ginkgo]

make a silly road for them if you must, also it is totally ok to make long ass belts, some do that

[astral gyro]

Yes

[mortal ginkgo]

yup, its perfectly fine

[tardy swift]

oh damn then thats nice! thanks for the tips guys!

[astral gyro]

Hey, truck roads are fun

[mortal ginkgo]

they are still silly

[astral gyro]

I come from a family of truckers lol

I like the world to be busy with trucks

[mortal ginkgo]

I agree, I like using them in my game too

makes the world more dynamic

[leaden turret]

🏭 🏭 tho

[mortal ginkgo]

bro no blz

[astral gyro]

Can those actually be automated and move materials?

[mortal ginkgo]

yes, they also dont ask for fuel, however they can only carry one stack of items

[astral gyro]

Do you need a truck station?

[mortal ginkgo]

yes ofc

[long zealot]

Has there been a BAD history with SF and Steam Link? Seems to crash the game for me on hotspot. PC is just fine, runs it for over 40 hours at a time. Just, my MacBook crashes the game when trying to connect to it

If not, I'll ask the modding server because I am running mods as well

[vale grotto]

question, do backwards facing locomotives add to the power of the train?

two locomotives at the front of a train, one forwards and one backwards. do they both help, or only the front facing one?

[cunning siren]

OH man, looks like loads of good stuff has happend in the last few years 🤔

[hard ivy]

why not place it forward instead? a backward locomotive in the middle of the train doesn't do anything differently than a forward facing one does

[true mulch]

Yes, all locomotives add power

You can have <loco][loco>[freight][freight]

[unkempt blade]

not only can they, they're the best at it!

[vale grotto]

because i like the way it looks!!

[stray herald]

LMAOOOO PHASE 4 NEEDS BOTH PHASE 2 AND PHASE 3 ITEMS AND I DID BOTH THESE PHASES BY HAND 💔

I'M COOKED

That's what I get for saying 'I'll automate next phase'

[zenith pecan]

Automation is the aim of the game afterall 😜

[fluid sapphire]

dont worry, i did too, for phase 4 i am gonna plan everything xd

[unkempt blade]

just do phase 4 by hand too, phase 5 is way easier

[stray herald]

Chat is this true?

[shy fog]

no, automation is easier, doing by hand is for us bench pressers

[unkempt blade]

phase 3 had 3100 space ship parts, he's already hit peak requirements quantity

it's all downhill from there

[shy fog]

honestly once you have basic automation done for minimal production it's all just time

not even power really...

you can (technically) get by with biomass burners the whole game if you want but it's inefficient

[unkempt blade]

especially if you're making all your spaceship parts by hand, think of the power savings!

[shy fog]

yes, that's firsthand knowledge. I am the benchpresser group

working on unlocking nuclear power atm... no idea why because I'm not using power save for the alien

which yes... I started at

[unkempt blade]

for the love of the game!

[shy fog]

factually I started with alien power 🙂

[fluid sapphire]

you could finish the game with just the burners on the hub

[cunning siren]

Can bio burners charge batteries yet? That would be handy

[fluid sapphire]

nope

by the time you unlock power storage you should be on coal power anyway

[cunning siren]

~1 year ago I made a skyscraper of batteries for the lulz #screenshots message was fun to be super lazy with power. I think I did mostly geothermal that run 😆

[spark oracle]

are the batteries a total of 1000 mw an hour charge or 1000 mw per battery?

[boreal musk]

power storage only charges off excess production, which bio burner does not

[spark oracle]

bc if its for all of theem combined wouldnt that be likee 1000 hours to charge lol

[hard ivy]

100 MWh of capacity, 100 MW max charge rate, infinite max discharge rate

[spark oracle]

oh ok but my queestion remains is it 100 charge rate for the whole network or 100 mw per hour

[zenith pecan]

I thought mine was bad, support tower has 7776 power stores on 24 floors.

[hard ivy]

this is all per 1 power storage

[spark oracle]

ok word

[cunning siren]

Back then (a year ago) I recall that skyscraper of batteries would lag my game, maybe I'll build it on the other side of the map this time. Maybe that will fix it while being at "main base" 🤔

[hard ivy]

cover it in opaque walls. should help

[zenith pecan]

Shouldn't be that much of a problem, I have that support tower at the rocket fuel plant producing a shed load of power, a steel plant making 4800 ingots and the waste resin going to rubber/plastic, all fits neatly into the blue crater.

[cunning siren]

I tried that and it did not help 😭

[zenith pecan]

Though the towers being visible from anywhere on the map is still crazy.

[cunning siren]

I run on gimpy hardware though 1080 GTX

[fluid sapphire]

i have a skyscraper almost exactly like that, with 8000 cells

it powered everything i was doing for about 300 hours

[zenith pecan]

My place doesn't hit the skybox though #screenshots message

[cunning siren]

Yea I stoped building partly cuz skybox limit

[fluid sapphire]

mine is only 400m tall

[zenith pecan]

I guess if I had put all the generators within one tower it would have hit the skybox, I didn't feel like having all that piping in a single column along with all the blenders and refineries.

[fluid sapphire]

ah, we are talking about different towers

my generators are also a pretty tall tower, about 1km, its cool to see from afar for sure
#screenshots message

[zenith pecan]

In my case, the slightly taller tower on the left is the one chock full of power stores.

[fluid sapphire]

aaah

[zenith pecan]

I had to clad the towers in glass though #satisfactory-experimental message , the place would look naked otherwise, I really didn't want more skeleton factories on my map.

[coral glacier]

Hello :)

[fluid sapphire]

i use a fair bit of glass myself, but i have to pump the breaks because my gpu cant xd

i would make all my walls glass if i only could

[coral glacier]

That's Insane 🔥

[zenith pecan]

My gpu is a couple of generations old.

[spark oracle]

what kind of walls are those?

[fluid sapphire]

looks like honeycomb window

[zenith pecan]

the honeycomb glass iirc, I'm not on my home pc.

[spark oracle]

no the metal walls is that just basic walls ?

[fluid sapphire]

looks like regular walls with some kind of paint

[zenith pecan]

ficsit walls with unpainted for the structure, honeycomb glass.

[fluid sapphire]

chrome?

aah

[spark oracle]

looks like the carbon steel finish

[zenith pecan]

I do tend to go mildly overboard with building, here's another example 🤣 #screenshots message , I moved all the worlds SAM to one location under the map to reanimate.

[fluid sapphire]

nice, we are playing a different game

[spark oracle]

the amount of steel ts would eat up is insanity

[fluid sapphire]

steel?

[spark oracle]

for sam fluctuators

(i havent unlocked any other use for sam :D)

[fluid sapphire]

i dont think thats for fluctuators

[spark oracle]

steel pipes, wires, and reanimated sam

[zenith pecan]

Some of it is making ficsite ingots, the rest is being sent to the surface.

Keep in mind, I'm the one who decided on having a 1km by 1,1km turbofuel facility as the backup to my mains power in my prior save.

[spark oracle]

based

[fluid sapphire]

fr fr

[spark oracle]

"yea bro satisfactory is so fun and you can play at your own pace and shit"
the pace in question:

[lost cloak]

#screenshots message

do we have a creative way to fill this? that block dont exist

[spark oracle]

road barrier strat

[mortal ginkgo]

I just saw a bird open up my factory's doors...

Bro literally sneaked in...

[zenith pecan]

Small scale turbofuel ftw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rLV_YcVt8s 🤣 , power was limited to 133,200mw, compared with what we can do nowadays, that is a little space inefficient.

[spark oracle]

sir, you need to increase your security

[mortal ginkgo]

Surely. I saw 2 inside the logistics floor the other day. Like, brotherman.

[spark oracle]

please don't ever use the words "limited to" and "133,200 MW" in the same sentence ever again

[stray herald]

The particle accelerator is SO expensive to maintain

[spark oracle]

jokes on you i dont even know what a particle acceleration is!

[mortal ginkgo]

only 26GW when slooped and OWed

[stray herald]

I have one building using 23,000 😭

[spark oracle]

im out here making CONCRETE HOE

[stray herald]

Gotta do it quick

[stray herald]

Fresh pioneers be like

[lost cloak]

its not looking right, nothing is alligned properly and its very off colour

[zenith pecan]

Why not, this is the total output of my three towers facility #satisfactory-experimental message 😜

[spark oracle]

? wdym very off color

[stray herald]

I did't want to automate the ||nuclear pasta|| so I just bought the parts from the shop

[fluid sapphire]

damn, ya'll out here doing architecture n sht

[spark oracle]

hey gang idk what to tell you but you might be a little extra because what are we doing here

-noob

[stray herald]

@spark oracle You'll need tons of concrete good that you have that emergency crate

[spark oracle]

lmao

i had 4 depots hooked up to my concrete but that "outpost" was from my very first day and I have wet concrete now so imma ficsit

[zenith pecan]

The fun part is, the three towers will eventually become the backup when I get nuclear power going 🙂

[spark oracle]

do you even need nuclear atp or is it just the love of the game

[zenith pecan]

I have a bit of a habit of building biome swallowing facilities.

[spark oracle]

i wish i could build a factory

[shy fog]

power is mandatory, what is not mandatory is how much power you generate or use

[zenith pecan]

My old gamesave at the end required 47gb of ram to even load.

[spark oracle]

unfort i am not smart or organized enuf

[cunning siren]

What big changes happend in the last year?

[spark oracle]

pardon my french but what the fuck

[shy fog]

what do you mean... probably was a 98% game complete factory

or Josh...

possibly just flat out Josh mode...

[spark oracle]

good point Zula are you lets game it out on a secret account?

[zenith pecan]

My world was way more ordered than Josh's chaos.

[spark oracle]

the one where he you play the exact opposite of his your videos

[shy fog]

speaking of Josh I saw he was active again

[zenith pecan]

My approach to power stores #design-and-architecture message , that place was slightly huge.

[spark oracle]

dude my discord just started tweaking

could you explain why you build whole ass backrooms maps on your saves

[zenith pecan]

I did innervate the entire map with tunnels,

[spark oracle]

and the lighting

[zenith pecan]

Well, tunnels and backrooms allow me to keep everything in order.

[spark oracle]

and the tunnels and the vibes and the everything else

[stray herald]

Is processing nuclear waste once NOT enough? I can't sink plutonium?

[spark oracle]

nope

[stray herald]

I thought you were making concrete 💔

[spark oracle]

I am

[stray herald]

Lmao

Send me some

[spark oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-when-you-meme-nanami-jjk-gif-10683277372535996893

[stray herald]

I'm out

[spark oracle]

NOOOOOOOOOO I CANT SHARE GIFS????????

click on that gif right neow

[zenith pecan]

I do build on the surface too, here's where all the worlds bauxite goes #screenshots message

[spark oracle]

gango you cannot be doin all ts I dont even know what the hell bauxite is (i do but thats because of spoilers :p )

[zenith pecan]

Eww, my laptop battery is about to die 🙁 , oh well, I'll be back home in a few hours, take care folks.

[spark oracle]

bye ily

bruh there was a 3rd limestone node right next to me and i never knew

[cunning siren]

If only our battery tech was as good IRL as it is in this game 😆 100% charge and discharge efficiency 0% loss over time

[violet spade]

What important things have I missed in the last two months while I’ve been gone?

[spark oracle]

idk, hope this helps tho

[mortal ginkgo]

ew, anime meme

[spark oracle]

I don't see the problem but okay

[mortal ginkgo]

anime dislike joek

[spark oracle]

type shit

[mortal ginkgo]

shit

[spark oracle]

thats it pal death penalty for you

[mortal ginkgo]

😭

[deep pier]

is there a way to find lost lizard doggo's?(or atleast check if they are dead)

[dim dock]

i really do wish there was some kind of loss. would give incentive to ensure backup power was always functional.

[mortal ginkgo]

while the game is chill, my previous playthrough 10 power storages saved me from a borked fuse. they are the heroes

for some people it is fun to build them, it is also great way to store immense power while making nuclear power etc

you can also store power like this to kickstart your factory by unplugging them and only plug them after a crash

it can also be a good failsafe if you made a big nuclear setup and screwed somewhere so you had to shut it down to keep things going for a while until you fix the issue

[dim dock]

of course. i'm talking about micro discharge though. you leave a battery disconnected, it slowly discharges over time.

[restive knot]

ElevADA NEEDS to accept power shards

[mortal ginkgo]

ah I thought you meant "as a reason to use them".

I mean.. I don't think we gain something from such game logic

[dim dock]

that would be harmful for the pioneer. you shouldn't use FICSIT property to cause damage to FICSIT property.

[violet schooner]

Anybody wanna play satisfactory with me.

[spark oracle]

you guys are making me want to make a big ole tower of batteries

[restive knot]

But it would be more efficient to have the elavator arrive and not need to wait 7 business years after falling a max elevator height

[steady glade]

i made 4 towers of 8 floors of 5x5 power storages around my fuel factory

it's a genuinely stupid amount of wires and modular frames

[restive knot]

If I give a Somersloop into the elevada will I have 2 pioneers on the other side?

[dim dock]

now that, i do want.

[restive knot]

Energy to pioneer conversion

That would also enable us to measure how much power = 1 pioneer and thus calculate the value of a human life mathematically

[dim dock]

one iron rod should be about right

[restive knot]

ADA makes it seem much more worth considering her 4th wall break telling me pioneers dont grow on trees after I fell off the map the 4th time

But then they would grow on elevADAs I suppose

[dim dock]

Through a phenomenon called the traversal quantum split, the pioneer can now snapshot themselves while travelling in an ElevADA. On the event of a pioneer's death, their twin takes over from the moment they came out of the ElevADA. This feature was added as there was little guarantee that said pioneers wouldn't accidentally terminate themselves through reasons as silly as fickleness.

[shut valley]

are there like auto turrets or something
im tired of the massive fucking things wandering into my factory and just sitting themselves in the middle of my production lines

[mental mica]

Dear Coffee Stain,

There I was, playing with my friend Thuggish, when we were discussing how much we liked this game, but were disgruntled with how dedicated servers have been just left behind for so many updates.

It would be amazing if we could have at least 1 update that solely focused on improvements in the dedicated server.

Things like:

• Not having to log out and back when:
  • Saving a Blueprint
  • Placing down concrete after a short period of time.
  • Going idle

It's clear to us that the server is actually running well, but that the client connectivity can't keep up with the message queue system for managing updates between server and client.

Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,

Your Thuggish's Best Friend
P.S. - I hope you like my Crash Reports.

[reef basin]

#1201555265942724758

[reef basin]

dear person

coffee stain doesn't read this chat (usually)

sincerely, everyone

[mental mica]

Mikel does. He's my other best friend.

[cunning siren]

Personnel elevators, that's new to me. Not sure I'll ever use them though 😆

[violet schooner]

i realized that was a channel a bit ago

[outer scarab]

i have no idea how to use the new discord. I have a red 2 next to design, how do I read those

[spark oracle]

so why did my 16000 solid biofuel get deleted when I tried to move my crates :/

care to explain devs????

[violet schooner]

is this a drill or not a drill

[spark oracle]

not a drill

not a drill at all actually

[dim dock]

you sure you didn't leave a crate behind where you were standing when you deconstructed those?

[mortal ginkgo]

it probably teleported to another crate

[spark oracle]

16,845 biofuel 🙁

[mortal ginkgo]

yes, the distance is bugged and it can indeed go to another crate

[violet schooner]

ok thanks😮‍💨

[spark oracle]

what the helly you were right @mortal ginkgo

its in my break in case of emergency concrete box

[mortal ginkgo]

ofc I was, kek.

[spark oracle]

so now i have 25000 concrete AND 17000 biofuel in a dismantle crate

[mortal ginkgo]

I am the best player. I am always right.

[spark oracle]

wonderful

[restive knot]

Worst case game autosaves every 5 minutes

[spark oracle]

#screenshots message

[spark oracle]

i changed it to 15

[restive knot]

that seems like its your fault then ;P

[spark oracle]

but irrelevant bc now i have the ever fortuitous crate of concrete and biofuel

[restive knot]

indeed

[gilded idol]

anyone wanna vc

[restive knot]

If I full overclock with somersloop a single refinery it ends up using over 50% of my total power consumption

[spark oracle]

what is your power consumption

[restive knot]

800MW

I tend to underclock a lot

[spark oracle]

how so little tho

[restive knot]

Mostly around 50%

[spark oracle]

do you not sink anything

[restive knot]

I sink the spelavator parts after theyre done

Building 10 furnaces at 10% consumption each instead of 1 at 100% is one hell of a power saver xde

[spark oracle]

guys do i use 23 of my 31 mercer spheres to unlock the last storage upgrade or just keep them for depots

[restive knot]

use them and farm more

[spark oracle]

elaborate

[restive knot]

you go out and find some

[spark oracle]

erm

sorry but im actually not CRINGE

[restive knot]

debatable

[spark oracle]

😮

also update i just figured out i have a storage container of ai limiters to sink

[restive knot]

I think over 700MW of the 800MW I use are miners xd

[spark oracle]

+15000 sink points/min

[restive knot]

sink your mercer spheres

[spark oracle]

oh I mistyped its 300,000 points

[restive knot]

Sink your spheres or you got no spheres in your pants

[spark oracle]

you rite im a woman

[restive knot]

sht

[wicked nacelle]

And you can’t anyhow

[restive knot]

then flush them

[spark oracle]

(i am not a woman)

[restive knot]

Still no spheres tho

[smoky nimbus]

anyone know of a good base spot that looks good while also having good resources near the desert?

[restive knot]

I personally dgaf about resource availability cause Im gonna train everything anyways so I always build on the waterfalls in the grassy fields

[smoky nimbus]

thats where i was considering but EVERYONE builds there

[restive knot]

because its pretty

[smoky nimbus]

yeah but I wanna be unique

and desert looks appeal to me more

[pastel carbon]

You can build multiple factories btw

[upper gale]

I based at the right of the dune desert once, it was nice & there is a lake or two

[pastel carbon]

You're not restricted to just one building location

In fact, you're encouraged to build multiple factories

[smoky nimbus]

yeah i'm doing modular factories but I want a main base for my depot and space elevator

[pastel carbon]

In that case, the resources shouldn't matter too much for your main base

[nova lantern]

If I underclock a foundry for example to 50%, will I use 50% less power?

[pastel carbon]

Just pick the coolest looking spot

[smoky nimbus]

its exponential, so I don't think so

[spark oracle]

60% less

roughly

[upper gale]

One location when starting off, and then later branching out

[smoky nimbus]

started in grass fields, built my 150 fuel gen power plant in blue crater

[restive knot]

My power comes from byproducts of plastic and geothermal at this point xd

[smoky nimbus]

don't geothermal gens produce like.. max 400MW?

[restive knot]

600 on a pure

[smoky nimbus]

still not great

[restive knot]

underclock your factory instead of overclock

[spark oracle]

well this freak said they would use 10 10% foundries intead of 1 normal

[restive knot]

you barely need any, 2 pure could run my whole thing rn

[smoky nimbus]

im using 6000MW with 35000MW production right now

i'd rather not use 10 thousand refineries

[restive knot]

Just put them in a blueprint with 1 input 1 output

[spark oracle]

i would literally need 800+ refineries for my oil power

wait no

680 refineries

wait no again

[smoky nimbus]

#screenshots message

[spark oracle]

i make more fuel than you 🖕

[smoky nimbus]

i plan on switching to nuclear

[spark oracle]

yappity yap yap just take the L :yawn:

[smoky nimbus]

FINALLY GOT CATERIUM COMPUTER

RAHHHHH

[spark oracle]

why doesnt the yawn emoji work

chat turbo heavy fuel or caterium computer

[smoky nimbus]

computer

[spark oracle]

u think so

[smoky nimbus]

caterium computer + electrode circuit board is a godsend

[spark oracle]

i have silicon circuit board bc silica is ez

[smoky nimbus]

turbo heavy isn't worth it

just use diluted fuel and normal turbo recipe

[spark oracle]

idek if im gonna fw heavy fuel in general

i dont have blenders unlocked so only diluted packaged fuel for me ;/

[smoky nimbus]

yeah im using that too

its not that bad

[outer scarab]

I'm thinking of going for max power

everyone does tickets per min

going to make a power plant

[smoky nimbus]

lots of people make plants that burn all the uranium

[hard ivy]

Have fun making 15 or 19 TW (depending on whether you want waste-free or not)

[smoky nimbus]

my ore scanner had random capitilzation, tf? 😭

[upper gale]

@restive knot So does 10 machines at 10% actually consume less power than 1 machine at 100% If so, I definitely gotta consider it

[smoky nimbus]

"how can I brutally torture myself?"

[hard ivy]

They actually consume less than half the power

[restive knot]

yup

[spark oracle]

fun fact if you just dont play the game you consume no power

checkmate minimalists

[outer scarab]

I did a test and found that running at 1% uses so much less power you can actually make some things for negative power cost at one point

[restive knot]

How is 10 machines minimalist

[spark oracle]

checkmate power optimalists

[smoky nimbus]

have fun making 500 manufacturers late game or waiting 2 weeks for the space elevator to fill up

[hard ivy]

4.4x less power is not negative power

[outer scarab]

so for every 1 factory, just make 100 factories and you will save ton of power

[restive knot]

I run my plastic at ~25-50%depending on my machine and the equivalent of 100% plastic makes ~80MW of surplus power

[outer scarab]

they fixed it before 1.0 that is what I was referancing

[hard ivy]

Pretty sure power vs clock speed was always exponential

[outer scarab]

yah but you get rounding errors and divide by zero

[restive knot]

again, blueprints.

[smoky nimbus]

good luck making it look nice (within a reasonable time span)

[outer scarab]

if you watch the satisfactory speed runners, they actually don't use power

[restive knot]

Usually pretty easy most low power builds allow direct insertion and dont need manifolds in the build or anything

[smoky nimbus]

also minimal returns for a large amount of effort

and theres nothing wrong with manifolds??

[hard ivy]

I'm in the camp "250% everything I can"

[outer scarab]

making your factory productive and making it look good are 2 different things that don't require either

[smoky nimbus]

real

[restive knot]

I did that once upon a time and got fed up after hearing the power off sound every 5 min

[outer scarab]

my first factory was in space and was ugly as sin

[smoky nimbus]

because you failed to prepare properly by building a proper power plant

[outer scarab]

i always make sure I have 200% power

[restive knot]

Oh excuse me for not knowing the in depths of the game in my first 100 hours good sir

[outer scarab]

turning power back on is not fun

[hard ivy]

Skill issue. Just build a big enough power plant. Also, between 250% and 100%, the difference in power is only 34%

[restive knot]

I can only repeat myself

[outer scarab]

he just mad you don't get all your answers from youtube players

[smoky nimbus]

#screenshots message

[hard ivy]

Also, fun fact, the difference in energy per item at 1% vs 250% is only 6x. But in exchange you need 250x more machines

[restive knot]

As I stated before 1 somerslooped 250% refiner would be half my total energy usage rn

so it does make quite the significant difference

[outer scarab]

but resources are infinite.... so having 250x more machines doesn't matter

[dense violet]

you really don't

[smoky nimbus]

navigating your factory becomes actual hell when you have thousands of machines because you didn't invest into fuel

[outer scarab]

what do you mean hell?

[restive knot]

THAT seems like the real skill issue just make blueprints 1 in 1 out you can even wall them into neat littlle sections of their own

[spark oracle]

ok but like.... doing all this so that an entire phase whatever save uses like 500 mw of power is NOT useful

[hard ivy]

Your computing resources aren't infinite tho

[outer scarab]

sounds like a money issue

[cunning siren]

Power seems to be somewhat trivial in this game, I abuse sloops as much as possible, so I can be as lazy as possible 😆

[hard ivy]

The best PC money can buy can only run 20-30k machines by my (admittedly rough) estimates

[spark oracle]

you calculated this?

[outer scarab]

is that in view or can you run more if they are on the other side of the map

[dense violet]

this server needs the cpt picard face palm emoji react

[spark oracle]

perchance may i ask why sir

[spark oracle]

realistically if you are placing thousands of machines there is no "other side of the map" theres only other end of the assembly line

[hard ivy]

Just existing

[restive knot]

build vertically

[outer scarab]

Didn't they make it so that stuff unloads when out of view? I remember lag issues being solved by boxing in stuff

[restive knot]

stack 10 machines on top if you wanna go for that 10 machine build

same distance to run as 1 then

[smoky nimbus]

just because stuff isn't rendered doesn't mean the game doesn't calculate what the machines are doing

[hard ivy]

The machines have to be processed regardless

You just don't see them

[smoky nimbus]

i'm sorry there is literally no way you can possibly make this look good if you spam it

[outer scarab]

I feel like the only lag I got was from objects loading not them existing

[smoky nimbus]

verticality is fun, not when its everywhere

[spark oracle]

do you regularly place down 10k machines or is that just me

[hard ivy]

How many machines did you have at most in one world?

[outer scarab]

i'm literally making a city of sky scrappers.... so yes it can look good

[smoky nimbus]

because they're wide

and built in a place where they look nice

[outer scarab]

I have no idea how many I had, or a way of telling

[smoky nimbus]

not 1-machine thin buildings

[hard ivy]

SCIM can tell

[outer scarab]

I did a mod mass delete and ended up with like 300,000 objects

[spark oracle]

I could guess its under 10,000 if i had to guess

[restive knot]

#screenshots message

I dont think this looks half bad, I like the open view but just close it if you prefer

[smoky nimbus]

i'm sorry the hot pink is searing my eyes

[restive knot]

thats not hot pink

[smoky nimbus]

pastel pink

[restive knot]

the accent is hot pink

[smoky nimbus]

please if you're going to do that utilize framed walls and structures

[restive knot]

didnt have that at the time

thats still the 1st floor of my factory

some screws for 100% of motors

[outer scarab]

I dont understand the point of making factories look good then boxing them in so you cant see them

[smoky nimbus]

of course you use screws

[restive knot]

well my box is open after all

[outer scarab]

I think you can actually avoid all screws

[smoky nimbus]

please god my best advice to any satisfactory player is to immediately get alternate recipies and elimate screws from the equation

they are such a pain in the ass

[hard ivy]

I don't bother making anything look good at any stage

[restive knot]

yet again, my first setup on that save for motors

[cunning siren]

Me either 😆

[restive knot]

runs on 62% clock speed so not even that slow

[outer scarab]

I have played too many times to not want to make the factory look good

[cunning siren]

I'm all function 0 form

[hard ivy]

Aesthetics do not make the factory any more efficient and are therefore superfluous

[outer scarab]

yes but there is nothing to work towards once you get to the end

[smoky nimbus]

my temp base is a mess, i think my turbo plant looks nice

[cunning siren]

Some folk do sandbox mode kind of playthrough at that point

[hard ivy]

There is. Like max nuclear for example. Did it 3 different times till now. Working towards the 4th rn

[outer scarab]

it's like playing with legos. You can stick them all together, or you can make something out of them

[restive knot]

I would apply the same principles as I do in my code, apply best practices and make it pretty (readable) so you have an easier time fixing/expanding it

If I had told my senior in my 1st position function over form he wouldve hit me with at least 3 best practice books

[spark oracle]

why are my messages in screenshots being deleted 🙁

[outer scarab]

I want to see someone make a good looking base without foundations

[smoky nimbus]

not possible

[outer scarab]

why do you think that?

[smoky nimbus]

no grid

[outer scarab]

it would be organic looking

[spark oracle]

you can make stuff look good with no grid

but can you build walls without foundations?

[smoky nimbus]

dont think so

[spark oracle]

you can

[smoky nimbus]

oh you can

[spark oracle]

then ye i think you could defo make some "foundations" using walls and roofs

[outer scarab]

i mean the point is not to cover the ground

[hard ivy]

There is a grid tho. Once you build the first machine, you can align the others to it

[outer scarab]

I mean i can have a floating factory but it won't look realistic

[dense violet]

use steel screws and use screws everywhere isntead

[spark oracle]

i dont remember who it was... maybe imkibitz who made a whole video about why they dont use the world grid anymore and they just basically said they have their own world grid based off the first factory they made so that everything connects together organically 🤷

[smoky nimbus]

i hate you.

[outer scarab]

I actually love the details where if you build 2 constructors next to eachother they actually overlap without clipping

[smoky nimbus]

this is what I do, i don't use the world grid

[spark oracle]

i hate screws

[dense violet]

bolted plate + bolted frame + steel screw. So good

[restive knot]

dont forget to underclock them

[outer scarab]

screws are the enemy

[hard ivy]

And waste resources without a benefit to make up for that. Great idea. I give it a solid 👍

[spark oracle]

stitched iron plates + caterium wires

[restive knot]

screw you

[outer scarab]

there is no such thing as a waste of infinite resources

[dense violet]

ok I'm not being a shit in saying this: skill issue

most people hate screws because they don't know how to manage them

and early on that's normal

[spark oracle]

i didn't say I don't use thhem

[hard ivy]

Nodes aren't infinite tho

[spark oracle]

i just said i hate them

[outer scarab]

no i hate them because you need so many

[smoky nimbus]

no people hate screws because I don't want to spend 3 hours doing beltwork

[dense violet]

you don't need to with a tiny bit of management

[outer scarab]

infinity + 1 = still infinity

[dense violet]

you make the screws right before you use them

[hard ivy]

Infinity isn't a number so that is an invalid operation

[spark oracle]

ecks dee

[restive knot]

then you clock them for direct insertion :)

[smoky nimbus]

25 motors a second takes 1250 screws.

[outer scarab]

it actually is

[dense violet]

that's like ... 2 or 3 constructors

[hard ivy]

Also, https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Miner#Maximum_ore_throughput_with_Miner_Mk.3_on_every_ore_node

Ore/min is not infinite

And that's exactly what permanent factories consume

[spark oracle]

they produce infinitely but not infinite resource

[smoky nimbus]

takes up 300 iron btw

[outer scarab]

you said resources though

[spark oracle]

and even if there was no llimit to how much they could mine theres a limit to how much you could extract bc max throughput on belts

[dense violet]

for 25 motors pm that's not bad. But again, you're ignoring the glorious Steel Screw recipe

[outer scarab]

My friend, who got me into this game, would build 1 drill, 1 smelter, 1 constructor to make 1 item then afk for 10 hours

[hard ivy]

Yes, because no sane person here thinks in individual ore items

[smoky nimbus]

im not routing coal when I don't need coal.

[spark oracle]

the ever forgiving cast screws:

[dense violet]

you're using iron pipe? gross

you have no right to complain about using too much iron anymore

[restive knot]

motors need stators need steel

[spark oracle]

i LOVE iron pipes

[smoky nimbus]

waste

[hard ivy]

They don't. Iron pipe

[smoky nimbus]

use steel rotor

[outer scarab]

iron pipe is good for boxes b/c you dont need coal

[dense violet]

iron pipe is for people who don't know how to plan and barely have any experience in the game.

[spark oracle]

orrrrrr.... people who dont want to make steel for stators

[outer scarab]

no it's for people who like to make items on site then ship the goods

[dense violet]

I think iron ore is a trash resource and should be used liberally without thought

and iron pipe uses too much iron for me

[hard ivy]

Iron pipe is for people who can't be bothered to get coal when they already have iron anyway

[spark oracle]

I think iron is a valuable resources that makes up mostly everything in the game

[dense violet]

which is why you waste tons of it on pipes?

[spark oracle]

it is also

[smoky nimbus]

iron pipe is a good recipe but you shouldn't be using it for steel motors because you're going to be making beams, encased beams and normal pipe on-site anyway

[outer scarab]

I dont think I have ever made wet iron... or found a need to make it

[spark oracle]

the most? abundant resource in the game

[smoky nimbus]

iron pipe has usecases but if you use it everywhere thats on you

[outer scarab]

now you are moving the goal post

[dense violet]

theres sooo many coal/iron patches on the map.

[outer scarab]

not next to eachother though

[smoky nimbus]

still much more iron around the map

[outer scarab]

In my favorite location there is way more iron than coal

and I hate trains

[dense violet]

that you have to then move around a bunch. You run into transport issues very quickly if you're making any sizeble system

[outer scarab]

I make goods on site by picking a central location to the nodes then ship the final good

[dense violet]

it uses literally 5x as much iron as the standard recipe

[hard ivy]

Wrong

[dense violet]

which is trading off for a few drips of coal

[outer scarab]

valuable coal vs abundant iron

[smoky nimbus]

its still a shit ton

[outer scarab]

I can burn coal for power, cant burn iron for power

[peak wasp]

is that enough though?

I built 5 computers a minute and that's not enough

[outer scarab]

I remember having to dedicate 4 pure iron nodes to making nothing but screws because of the requirements befor alt recipies

[hard ivy]

Idk I'd rather get 4 iron than 1.5 iron and 1.5 coal. That's only a third more items to transport, and it's only a single kind of item instead of 2

[outer scarab]

thats why i dont like screws

[hard ivy]

It's not the screws' fault. All but one recipe using them just sucks ass

[outer scarab]

I also use stitched plate with iron wire

[peak wasp]

no alternate screws 12.5 iron to 50 per minute?

[outer scarab]

so i dont need to use coper

[smoky nimbus]

putahs don't take screws

[hard ivy]

They used to

[smoky nimbus]

not anymore

[outer scarab]

quick wire and plastic is all computurers need

with 2 alt recipries

[peak wasp]

No but heavy frames do and I'm always short heavy frames, I feel like I need 30 per minute but then I need encased beams and steel which I need a surmountable stack of

[smoky nimbus]

if you don't use heavy encased frames you are a masochist that is torturing yourself.

[hard ivy]

HMFs are easy if you use the right recipes

[smoky nimbus]

please go get the encased frame alternate.

[outer scarab]

you can make heavy frames with just iron and a little sand

[smoky nimbus]

what the fuck is sand

[peak wasp]

I do use them but I haven't built a proper train network before idk how they work

[outer scarab]

the yellow shit in bags

[smoky nimbus]

concrete? 😭

[hard ivy]

Concrete lol

[outer scarab]

sure if thats what you think that is

[peak wasp]

Does any pony use wet concrete

[hard ivy]

Or limestone if we're talking about the rock

[smoky nimbus]

me

[outer scarab]

my friend usues wet concrete to sink water

[peak wasp]

It's better isn't it?

[smoky nimbus]

^^^

[hard ivy]

I use all pure-type recipes. Free resources

[peak wasp]

pure recipes?

[outer scarab]

you are the reason we have a drought

[smoky nimbus]

pure iron ingot, pure copper ingot, wet concrete, etc

[outer scarab]

add water, get free shit

[peak wasp]

oh right, I need more hard drives

[hard ivy]

Pure iron, pure copper, pure caterium, pure quartz, wet concrete

[rustic hare]

ore + water = more output

[smoky nimbus]

make explosive rebar and go on a murder spree

[wicked nacelle]

Pure fuel 🙂

[outer scarab]

fuel + water = more fuel

the water on this world is flamable

[peak wasp]

True explosive rebar is super fun. Get that and the rifle and jetpack ur set for exploring

[smoky nimbus]

oil residue + diluted fuel + turbofuel

[rustic hare]

only correct if you consider oil residue a fuel

[hard ivy]

Turbofuel is meh tho

[smoky nimbus]

worth it in blue crater

[shy fog]

all water is basically rocket fuel pre-seperation...

[smoky nimbus]

coal + crude + sulfur all nearby

[outer scarab]

all waster is rocket fuel post seperation too

[rustic hare]

slap nitrogen on that and you got rocket fuel

[outer scarab]

hydrogen rockets produce water as waste

[hard ivy]

I still wouldn't bother setting up the assemblers for comp coal.

I just use regular fuel

[rustic hare]

ignition btw, it's a chemical reaction that makes water, not seperation

[outer scarab]

I had a map were I piped all the oil into the desert

[peak wasp]

sad turbo fuel sucks though I'd rather go straight for RF with alts

[outer scarab]

like every single oil

[hard ivy]

Piped? Not trained? Insane behaviour tbh

[outer scarab]

turbo fuel use to be the best in the game

i hate trains

[peak wasp]

Used to be before RF

[hard ivy]

It really wasn't. Like ever

[outer scarab]

it was a 4x8 line of pipe

how do you figure it wasnt best?

nuclear was the only thing better and it created waste you couldnt remove

[hard ivy]

The only thing TF does better than regular Fuel is the oil efficiency. Everything else is as good or worse

[outer scarab]

yah which means you get more power

[hard ivy]

No reason to bother making TF unless you specifically need the oil efficiency

[hard ivy]

Just get more oil

[outer scarab]

you did, to make more power

i got all the oil... wtf you talking about

[hard ivy]

I completed the game several times pre-1.0 on 200-400 gens burning fuel

Tapped maybe 2 or 3 oilfields for that

[outer scarab]

ok good for you?

[hard ivy]

I'm just saying. Instead of getting the coal and sulfur, it's literally easier to just go get more oil

[outer scarab]

The game isn't over until there is nothing else to do

if you can make more, then the game continues

[hard ivy]

Unless you're literally running out of oil, there's nothing useful that TF does

[outer scarab]

yes, obviously

[plucky plank]

how do i chajnge the preffered ammo for rebar gun

[outer scarab]

dont you have a mouse wheel option

i remember there being a menu for that

[smoky nimbus]

hold R

[hard ivy]

Not really obviously. I wouldn't say that about RF, because it actually is easier to make and use than regular fuel. Turbofuel really isn't

[outer scarab]

i mean before blinders you had to box your fuel as part of the step

that was annoying

[plucky plank]

[smoky nimbus]

whar

[outer scarab]

to get diluted fuel you had to box it up and then unbox it

so you would have this line of boxes to keep getting refilled

it was dumb and i'm glad they removed the need for it

[hard ivy]

It's perfectly fine with BPs

But yeah, for like one update you had to deal with it

[sharp river]

is there a key combination or hotkey to quickly empty a portable miner?

[deep pier]

is the crafting process of one space elevator upgrade suppose to take a WHOLE DAY or am I doing something wrong?

[astral gyro]

I just built my first factory using the diluted fuel recipe into fuel gens and I also made the canisters a closed loop, as the first time doing it, it took a lot of brain power to figure out on my own

[shrewd palm]

pressing shift and clicking on the item you want will move the one stack of items to your inventory, pressing ctrl and clicking on the item you want will move all stacks of that item

[shrewd palm]

no thats good it gets a lot worse later

with t5 if you're playing casually you're probably looking at like 2 weeks or so if its your first run through the game (and if you tore down the factory for t4)

[peak wasp]

not if you somersloop with slugs

modular engines would have taken 6 hrs but got it down to only 2

[deep pier]

I would love to do that but I had to ticket solid bioful just to keep the assembler going

[astral gyro]

I just went crazy with fuel gens lol

[peak wasp]

Research alt recipes on mam, use enemy carcasses to repurpose as biofuel. 1 gives like 100 solid biofuel

[astral gyro]

No coal?

Or not yet

You might be earlier than I think

[deep pier]

I do be coalless my good sir

[atomic iron]

How many people have beat satisfactory (1.0+)?

[peak wasp]

I beat it 1.0 space elevator phase 4

[astral gyro]

Im tier 6 in my first playthrough

[peak wasp]

I got to automating power slugs before i had to start over

[astral gyro]

I just went down the crazy rabbit hole of the diluted fuel recipe lol

[hard ivy]

If you just handfeed a single slooped and overclocked machine making each space elevator part, you could be done in a few hours

[shrewd palm]

im just starting t5

[atomic iron]

I mean like how many people beat the game total, like using the achievements from steam

[shrewd palm]

finished a nuclear plant last week so now im trying to plan out a factory for t5 parts and then i'll have beaten the game

[astral gyro]

You mean phase 5?

[shrewd palm]

yeah

[shrewd palm]

i think i almost would have if i didnt turn on advanced settings lmao

spiders are spooky

[atomic iron]

W, I beat it about 3 months ago. Took me like 1 month of trouble shooting for the 100% efficient power plant

[shrewd palm]

real

[peak wasp]

How many of later item parts do you all make? space elevator parts etc

[shrewd palm]

i spent a few days on my waste setup lmao, my beltwork was scuffed

just waiting for some of the machines to get filled with uranium and then it'll be going at 100% efficiency

it is very possible i am going to use all 800GW im making

[atomic iron]

Ngl my belts made Italians impressed so I encased that part in concrete 😭

[plain gate]

50 50 25 25

slooped to 60 pasta for yummy full mk1 belt :p

[atomic iron]

I could not beat this game without satisfactory modeler

[shrewd palm]

aiming for 7.5 BWDs, 10 expansion servers, 6.25 pasta, 20 sculptors

could go higher but im not exactly sure how much SAM im using

[peak wasp]

Thinking about how many HMFs to build still idk why it's such a bottle neck every playthrough

[shrewd palm]

im trying to go for 40

[peak wasp]

I might just turn the entire desert into a hmf farm cause why not

[shrewd palm]

the way i built my factory was very lazy tho so im gonna have to rebuild it it and now that i have some more alts i can make a lot more i think

[atomic iron]

Quick question, What is y'all's least fav part to automate?

[plain gate]

think about pcc and work your way down

[peak wasp]

PCC?

[plain gate]

yeah

[peak wasp]

space eleator parts

Feels like outside of the SE they're useless asides sink points

[hard ivy]

Then don't automate them lol

[atomic iron]

I mean normal parts

[atomic iron]

Facts lol

[shrewd palm]

HMF (or anything that needs screws) and non fissile uranium

[peak wasp]

I must automate everything my last playthrough peaked when I automated weaponry

[atomic iron]

I HATE automating anything with large amounts of heavy frames

[hard ivy]

HMFs don't need screws if you make them right

[peak wasp]

Gonna try and go for 30 per minute in the desert

[hard ivy]

HMFs are my favourite item to automate tbh

[peak wasp]

Do it for me I hate it

[shrewd palm]

yeah im gonna do that soon

[atomic iron]

I don't mind automating them, they just take so many resources

[shrewd palm]

its basically just some iron and limestone if you want to go with screws

[hard ivy]

Eh, it's just iron, limestone, maybe coal

[shrewd palm]

also plastic if you're using that one iron plate recipe

[hard ivy]

It's the same without screws. In fact, it's more with screws than without

[atomic iron]

Mostly just early game

[shrewd palm]

another common screw L

[atomic iron]

FFFFFFacts

[upper gale]

Just tested and yeah, underclocking does use less power exponentially. Thank you those that responded earlier

[peak wasp]

Chat is 10 heavy frames per minute fine when starting out

[boreal musk]

is a lot

[upper gale]

You could make do with 5 if you really wanted

[crisp edge]

what in particular are we referring to

[upper gale]

It was just a question I asked earlier #satisfactory message

[crisp edge]

sounds like a ficsonium setup lmao

[upper gale]

Guessing those are crazy to make, I haven't gotten there yet

-# mostly from restarting so much

[crisp edge]

i haven't either. but from what i've gleaned, uranium power produces waste, which you then refine into plutonium, which produces waste, which you make into ficsonium fuel rods, which burn at a rate that apparently make them consume more power to make them than they generate. but you can't sink nuclear waste, so you basically have to at least refine the uranium waste into plutonium fuel rods(which i think you can sink). someone who knows how to do nuclear power will have to weigh in for accurate info here

[upper gale]

Seems like a lot of steps. Was in nuclear once few years ago in a co-op, it was funny because there were no... there was nothing else after waste at that time. The only solution was to shove it in a storage container tower at the corner of the map, creating a massive radiated zone that my friend would die in. So, absolutely hilarious. But looking forward to that tier

[smoky nimbus]

ficsonium isn't worth it. make plutonium rods then sink the plutonium rods
@upper gale pinging you for this as well

unless you're doing absolutely massive megaprojects, you don't need ficsonium

[upper gale]

Oh alr noted

[crisp edge]

or if you just want to do everything the game has to offer

[upper gale]

Ikea lamp

[smoky nimbus]

what phase are you at right now?

[upper gale]

Phase 3 on both solo saves, and just joined a dedicated server some days ago which is on phase 2 I think

About 5 saves deleted before these i cri

[crisp edge]

phase 4 here, first and only save file

[trim kiln]

I really wish this game had a flat world option...

[upper gale]

Yea
Closest is the ocean

[trim kiln]

Yea True

[upper gale]

But like a full blank area, would be nice

I say that but I literally got bored of building on the ocean

It's so much space! But, without the challenge of working with the terrain

Sometimes you have to though

Oil processing takes so much space

[trim kiln]

I feel you, I am kinda tired of building in the air XD

[upper gale]

lol real

Haven't tried it 🤔

[trim kiln]

You should

[crisp edge]

disagree there. it's not too bad, compared to something like 1 assembly director system perminute

[upper gale]

Did you fall a lot before jetpack?

[trim kiln]

I have fly mode

[upper gale]

Yeah rip

[upper gale]

It's a god pioneer in the air!!

[trim kiln]

hehe yeah

[crisp edge]

#screenshots message

this is my starter factory, and i did occasionally fall before jetpack, but mostly only a couple floors down, i think i only fell to my death a couple times

[upper gale]

Oou not bad it still looks kinda spaceous and manageable

My brain has this tendency to need to fill in some kinda percieved empty space

[upper gale]

Did you make the rail supports too

[crisp edge]

just built a new floor every 12m for a new part. from the bottom to the top i did
floor 1- iron plate/rod/screw
2- copper wire/sheet/cable
3-concrete/encased beam
4- reinforced plate
5- rotor
6- smart plate
7-versatile frame
8-motor/modular engine
it just keeps going

[crisp edge]

what rail supports?

[upper gale]

Oh are they conveyors? I dunno something on the right side

It's white

[crisp edge]

oh the conveyor lifts coming in from out of frame? no i just brought sam in via a floating foundation belt that's like 1000m long or some shit. it's horrendous

[upper gale]

Pinged you there

[crisp edge]

ohhh, no, that was actually @thick oak

and it's just conveyors

[upper gale]

Ahh gotcha

[upper gale]

Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do 😹

Oh okay those supports you got is neat

[coral glacier]

The correct answer is "Yes."

[thick oak]

wha

[crisp edge]

thank you! i spent a little over an hour putting them together and i still don't like some of the angles but don't know how to fix them lmao

[stray herald]

Aye bruh why is ADA ||flirting with the entity|| ?

[crisp edge]

side note, how do you guys deal with train stations starting from high altitude? i'm finding myself putting supports for rails in midair and it's not a good look lol

[crisp edge]

just crediting you with your skywalk pillars

[thick oak]

Oh oh got it.

[crisp edge]

she got game

[thick oak]

I see you've made a similar train design! Very pretty.

[crisp edge]

i for sure took inspiration from you

[upper gale]

They both give me sci-fi vibes and I love that

[upper gale]

Some people create train spirals, to lower it's elevation first. But everything in between, have no idea. I guess really tall pillars

[stray herald]

I have a 'pillar' BP which is a 2x2x2 cube of metal pillars and I add more as needed to smooth the curve

[crisp edge]

right now i'm literally just setting a hologram on top of my current pillar, then locking it and using pg down and arrow keys to move it to a spot in midair, lowering a few meters per pillar

figure i can make the legs reach the ground after with a leg extension BP, but it's a lot of concrete

[upper gale]

Then it gets to a point it's just a few meters off the ground but you're too lazy to put individual foundation pieces so you just throw another pillar blueprint in. That pillar is now 90% inside the ground and took all your concrete

[crisp edge]

yeah so let's not make the leg bp too tall lmao

[upper gale]

You could make 3 different sizes but eeeh

[crisp edge]

lmao just got the build 5km of railway achievment and i haven't even connected all the way to the other side yet

[upper gale]

Damn forgot about satis achievements

[crisp edge]

did you disable them by activating god mode or smth

[stray herald]

Even worse she is condescending towards me it's like rubbing salt on the wound

[crisp edge]

you like it

[stray herald]

HR be like

[peak wasp]

I've made it to the desert biome, which is perfect because of the amount of mercer spheres and nodes there

are hyper tubes faster for personal transport than trains

[upper gale]

Lmfao I never got the "complete onboarding" achievement

[upper gale]

Severely depends on how the hypertube is built. Train is a lot more consistent, but hypertube can be faster
Can also be a lot slower

[crisp edge]

i'll bet you didn't read the owner's manual to your car either did you

[upper gale]

There's a manual??
Jk

Ooh there's a golden nut achievement. Always wanted the golden nut

[rigid glen]

Once I made a BP of a simple 8 gate cannon, I use them a lot and can mostly cross the map in 2 cannons and using liquid biofuel in the rocketpack

[upper gale]

I mean if we're talking cannons
Hypertube wins by a longshot

[rigid glen]

This is the last one I need, and it's SO slow because I don't want to rebuild giant factories for end game parts to sink

[upper gale]

For real it is so slow

[rigid glen]

It's the best, drop the the BP, find power and you're off, I love them

[upper gale]

Did you decorate it

You should make a fancy one

[rigid glen]

A tiny bit, but I have an idea for a larger build so the cannon is up on a lit platform

[upper gale]

I see

[warm phoenix]

#streams-and-videos message
the hog shenanigan that just happened

also whoever said "theres pure coal node near my base" few days ago
thanks that took me whole mountain climb to find it, how tf am i supposed to transport it

[upper gale]

Hog yeets itself into the void

He saw you approaching with the rifle

And chose to die as a free hog

[upper gale]

I guess don't transport it, just build the machines right there

[warm phoenix]

so far finding nothing but coal and water around here

i mean its good for coal gen iguess but what else

[coral glacier]

Did somebody say..... CONCRETE!?!?

ChoooclATTTE

[rigid glen]

#screenshots message

My first attempt

[upper gale]

Concrete insanity

[upper gale]

Very clean!

[rigid glen]

thanks, so boring lol

[upper gale]

I could see it connecting to some kinda road

[coral glacier]

I'm using polished concrete for my plutonium reactor plant. :)

[rigid glen]

It's a great look

[upper gale]

What it feels like to live in luxury, rolls royce, rollex, and coated concrete floors

[coral glacier]

What it feels like to live in Luxury: Rolls Royce, Rollex, Satisfactory's Coated Concrete Floors

[upper gale]

I'm too tired to write it correctly but yeah that one

[coral glacier]

Gotcha, XD

[boreal musk]

love using coated concrete as walls

[noble ice]

Do I need to unlock Turbo fuel in the MAM before I can roll the Turbo fuel alternate recipe?

[rigid glen]

Yes, I believe it's included in the base turbofuel unlock in the MAM

And turbo heavy Fuel unlocks with compacted coal

research

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Turbofuel

[noble ice]

yeah i just am curious if I can reroll some hard drives and maybe get the alternate recipe before actually getting it in the MAM

OH so if I have compacted Coal, it should roll in the hard drives

[rigid glen]

i think there is only the two alts, both come from research

not drives

[noble ice]

thats not what the wiki says

"The Turbo Heavy Fuel and Turbo Blend Fuel recipes are unlocked by scanning Hard Drives in the MAM"

[rigid glen]

Then what is that column in the wiki link, says Turbo Heavy Fuel unlocked by Compacted Coal MAM

weird, one second

[boreal musk]

are you sure youre using official wiki?

[noble ice]

The regular recipe is unlocked by the MAM
The alternate recipes are unlocked via hard drives

[crisp edge]

why can i see a train across the map from an infinite distance through terrain as a red highlight?

[boreal musk]

visual bug, just hover your build gun in dismantle mode to those freight cars and it will fix it

[sour vessel]

Is 6 hours for coal power a decent time?

this is the first time I really rushed it

[rigid glen]

Sounds good to me, I'm never that fast

[boreal musk]

if you know what youre doing, you can cut that number in half even without rushing

i take my time, and i always reach coal in 1-3hrs without rushing at all

30-60mins if i want to rush

[sour vessel]

I mean, I do (kinda) know what I'm doing 😅

just returning to the game after playing in EA. I think the last update I played was U4

[bitter yarrow]

Im new and I love this game. Its so challenging but a lot of fun

[sour vessel]

it's peak factory game

[bitter yarrow]

it is 100%

[sour vessel]

love the math calculations

[shut valley]

whats the best way to transport coal (at the level that you need it for steel production)

[boreal musk]

belts

[shut valley]

damn
aight

[boreal musk]

and use nearest coal for your steel stuffs

use coals that are further away for power

[near frost]

is making 30 pasta overkill

like idk how much i should make like there is no limting factor here

[atomic notch]

Depends on how much copper you wanna route

Its used as a part in p5 tho

[near frost]

if i make 30 i am gone have 300 singulraty cell which i can make 60 warp drive woth them but idk if that is a lot

and i dont want to do nuclur so there is no other good use of the cells

[remote ledge]

do nuclear, its so worth it.

[atomic notch]

So fun doing nuclear

[near frost]

i am scared in my currnet plan i will get 555 thousand MW from rocket fuel

[atomic notch]

You but rocket fuel is boring

😕

[near frost]

i like to be boring beside i might do it as a fun project after i finish phase 5

[atomic notch]

Im gonna have to build a bigger nuclear for my fun projects anyway

[shut valley]

if my coal gen is far away and i want to check the current wattage without going to the plant, is there an easy way to do that?

[atomic notch]

Power pole?

You can get a switch too but i never really messed with them

You can always look at how much power youre makin by checking a power pole

[flint grail]

Just finished making a heavy modular frame production, and as of now, for the first time in my singleplayer playthrough, I don't have anything to do

[near frost]

get hard drives and skugs

slugs*

[flint grail]

I meant in terms of creating a production

[near frost]

make more stuff for ur invintory

[stray herald]

DO you have dimensional depots set up?

About to finish phase 4 right now:D

@surreal meteor Are you a new player? Factory looking good early:D More organized than me 300 hours in lol

Oh w ow tier 9 is something else

[mortal ginkgo]

trying to do an @ everyone is surely a crazy move

at least you got someone with a bait nickname

[stray herald]

LOL they postd on #screenshots

[mortal ginkgo]

wow, I got a self own there and it made me giggle 😄

I got FOOLED

[stray herald]

😭 LMAO

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1413774587879227485

[shy mulch]

They have belts clipping through each other 🤮

[stray herald]

But it's layed out nicely mine literally looks like a caveman dicovering fire

laid*

[trim kiln]

@stray herald lol I like what you did with that screenshot! XD

[rustic hare]

ahhh I can't play satiscracktory today, I feel itchy, signs of withdrawal?

[shy mulch]

Have you looked at how many dark matter crystals you will need to make for 60 BWD. Plan that out too before you commit

[austere lichen]

100%

[stray herald]

Nah it's actually legit

[rustic hare]

when the devs realize they have free will

[trim kiln]

Huh? You didnt put the text in???

[stray herald]

Nope

It's literally like that in-game

[trim kiln]

Oh dang lmao

[stray herald]

🤣

[shy mulch]

That is what it says ingame

[rustic hare]

the more and more you progress, the less serious and more unhinged the game gets 😂

[shy mulch]

Yes. Makes you realise the devs actually enjoy it too

[trim kiln]

I thought about making a real life version of a a tier 6 conveyor belt 🙂

[stray herald]

So I hve a question

[trim kiln]

I have acrylic panels for it

[cedar socket]

Why not a factory cart

[stray herald]

If I randomly make a factory that makes 12 computers a minute, then suddenly in the next phase I need 15 per minute, I get so discouraged

[shy mulch]

Answer is 42

[stray herald]

Whatt's the remedy here

[stray herald]

42x power consumption

[dense violet]

have you completed al lthe tiers yet?

[shy mulch]

Build your factories with lots of space for expansion, so it's easy to extend

[rustic hare]

that's why you don't shard it and leave space, then just shard it and feed it more resources when you need higher production rates

[stray herald]

No but I made a 10 computer/ min factory, but needed 14 ors omething for one of the assembly items

[austere lichen]

Stacking stuff is a great way to make stuff modular if you need more in the future

So make a stackable design per component

[near frost]

so that is limiting factor thanks

[stray herald]

Yeah I think my issue is I try to find some area with close resources then build everything to exact numbers

[dense violet]

that's why you either

make dedicated factories, so in this case, make part of the new one make some more computers

reduce the new factory to less than 10 comps per min

just let things over flow and don't make things efficiently. It'll flood eventually

[deep pier]

how many steel beams are needed to make a 1000 versatile frame work?(I tried to do the math but I don't think I did it right)

[stray herald]

Like recipe needs 202.5 copper wire? I do exactly that

[shy mulch]

I build all my sattelite factories without overclocking. So if I discover some incorrect arithmatic I can fix it with overclocking and only problem to actually solve is feeding in more input materials

[rustic hare]

why 😭

[feral geyser]

12 beams per 1 framework, right?

[deep pier]

per 2

[stray herald]

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