satisfactory

[stray herald]

Do you usually finish the entirety of your playthroughs?

[vale grotto]

Nice!! Getting trains going makes a lot of things a lot easier

[vale grotto]

I usually make it to tier 8 and then burn myself out lol

[autumn birch]

When satisfactory is coming on ps5 can't wait anymore

[vale grotto]

This time I'm setting myself proper goals and also not trying to optimize literally everything, so I'll hopefully avoid as much burnout

I'm trying different alternates, the ones that aren't "meta" for variety!!

Currently designing an HMF factory using heavy flexible frame, coke steel ingot, and no recycled rubber or plastic

Oh and fine concrete as well!

[shy mulch]

Try rubber concrete 😄

[stray herald]

lol so real

[vale grotto]

I considered, but I wanted an excuse to use an explorer to bring over quartz :3

[coral glacier]

Annnnnd learning from Kibitz, it's going to be ran on it's own sub power system and not the main grid so when power goes out for some reason it'll still be operable and i'll be able to access each part of my reactor farm.

[cedar socket]

wdym

but iof its kibitz

its good

[coral glacier]

Unlike Kitbitz, who had the power supplying the hyperloop system being from the main grid*

It didn't work when he had a reactor plant fail.

[coral glacier]

I meant to say that it will have its own independent power system, incase of main power failure.*

Plus it wouldn't be affected regardless of if it's on/off because of it being connected to an independent power system.

[coral glacier]

(This was the power grid that supplied power to his entire world.

So it'd be a safe precaution to have the hyperloop system on its own grid.

[shy mulch]

I have multiple power plants all over the world, all working in completely different and independent ways. Everything is connected to a single grid. I'd need 2 of my power plants to completely fail at the same time to be at risk of the fuse going

[stray herald]

How big are these plants?

[shy mulch]

Largest one is 360GW

[ripe basin]

Good morning guys
I fried some dumplings again

[stray herald]

Poor lizard doggos

What kind of dumplings did you fry?

[ripe basin]

[No lizard doggos were harmed during this process]

[ripe basin]

Pelmeni

[stray herald]

Oh!

Russian food

[edgy python]

Does the flow of items into a awesome sink affect how much power it uses because u can not locate what’s causing my consumption to go up and down I’ve checked all my machines and miners and my other factories so does the resource intake of a awesome sink affect how much power it takes

[stray herald]

Sometimes machines can stop especially if you use manifolds

[ripe basin]

No it does not

[edgy python]

Il send the setup in screenshots

#screenshots message

[ripe basin]

So you use balancers?

[edgy python]

Idk I just put 2 mk1 miners that produce 30 iron/min onto a belt of 60 and then split that belt back up into 2 belts of 30 into 2 smelters

[stray herald]

As a precaution I always consider my poweruse to be the 'Max consumption', this way I never have accidients

[edgy python]

I don’t have power problems I have efficiency problems

[stray herald]

That can also cause power use to fluctuate

How new are you to the game?

I guess the playthrough

[edgy python]

I have 1000hours

This is my third save I’ve never had this problem before

I’ve isolated it to this factory but everything is running at 100%

[ripe basin]

How many?..,

[edgy python]

How many what

[ripe basin]

You have 1000 hours and THREE SAVES?

[edgy python]

What’s wrong with that the first one was when I joined in early access and it’s terrible and inefficient the second one I got to last tier and I want to start over now

[shy mulch]

I have 3 saves and I'm at 1200 hours

[ripe basin]

I have 3 saves and im at 303 hours

[stray herald]

I have 10 saves and I'm at 300 ☠️

[edgy python]

30hour per save

[stray herald]

I canNOT commit

[edgy python]

I don’t know what to do with my factory and what is causing the power fluctuations

[stray herald]

This time I gotta finish the game. I need my achievements

[edgy python]

It has to be a awesome sink acting it because the power fluctuates by 30-60w and each sink takes 30w

[shy mulch]

Sink is either on or off. If there's nothing going in then it uses less power

Why does it matter?

[edgy python]

I knew it

Someone told me items going in a sink doesn’t matter

[shy mulch]

Easy enough to test

[edgy python]

I’ve been ripping apart my factory to see why the power is fluctuating

[ripe basin]

I thought you were asking if more items = more cons

[dense violet]

AH, there was a super simple solution to that: Don't care about it.

[edgy python]

I want the blue and orange line to touch

It’s satisfying

[shy mulch]

If you OCD about things like that then you're going to make the game 100x harder for yourself. That's fine if you want to do that, but just be prepared and understand what you're getting yourself into

My power bounces about all over the place, I'd love to care but if I tried to fix it, that's all I'd ever do, and I'd never make any progress

[ripe basin]

Most of my factories are on standby, like my motor factory

[edgy python]

Ok I know later on with particle accelerators and trains it will always fluctuate but if I need to make exactly 8.888 modular frames I’m gonna want to make sure everything is 100% working since if it’s not il produce less then I need to causing everything to be inefficient down the line

[shy mulch]

yeah there's a big gap between my actual and potential consumption

[ripe basin]

I have that too

[shy mulch]

I intentionally vey slightly overproduce at every step, so there's always a bit extra to back up the lines, so if anything ever fails it doesn' have any impact

For example if I have a machine that needs 300 screws, I'll send it 305

[edgy python]

I only do that with trains because if it’s by conveyer belt then for me most of the time it’s gonna be good

[shy mulch]

Mmmmmmm trains

[ripe basin]

I dont bother with calculating everything precisely
I just know that i need 30 circuits, and that will be 4 assemblers for 8,75(or8,5)

[shy mulch]

trains and drones. my lifeblood

[ripe basin]

Those are cool

[edgy python]

Still can’t figure out how to make a good railway

[shy mulch]

Don't. That's the trick. Make a rubbish one. Then make a slightly less rubbish one. Then make a small improvement.
Continue like that. You're 15th one will be awesome

People who try to do something for the first time and get upset and frustrated because it's not as good as kibitz, slow down

[ripe basin]

I hate when my headphones cord gets under the keyboard

[shy mulch]

One of the most common questions I see is "hey, can anyone help me, this is my first railway and I don't really understand signals, here's a screenshot" and it's some absolute monster of a junction with 15 entrances and 19 exits. Like, relax. Make a T junction, then a crossroads, then do multiple lanes, then do a roundabout, build it up and you'll get the hang of it in time

[ripe basin]

I follow the principle(i guess thats the word) of 1 train = 1 railway

[boreal musk]

build large enough power infrastructure and you wouldn't even notice a second of 30MW drop

[shy mulch]

I tried doing that at first, but I have about 60 trains now so it wouldn't really be feasable

[boreal musk]

also, having endgame machines that fluctuates like PA and encoder makes it doesnt really matter

[edgy python]

I just do roundabouts

[boreal musk]

and also trains in that regard

[true mulch]

Being able to reuse railways is one of the key advantages trains have over other methods of transport

Single train railways can still be beneficial but you benefit greatly from a connected global railway system

[leaden turret]

having to plan infrastructure in advance is one of the key disadvantages

[true mulch]

Only somewhat

[violet oyster]

I can finally play the game, my 10/pm Heavy modular frame factory is done! First big build ive made

[edgy python]

Just build a blueprint it’s pretty easy also you can always add to your railway later

[violet oyster]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/932761153703149659/1413458651389362337/Screenshot_20250905-173132.png?ex=68bc0173&is=68baaff3&hm=30443da8115a764754e5fcbfebc84981bac6d655f25a8348e8ec625dc9c9638d&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1536&height=864 if anyone wants to see her naked

[leaden turret]

(I stopped using trains because by the time I had unlocked trains & had enough resources to start building out trains, the viaducts had too many "temporary" belts on)

[true mulch]

The only thing that needs a bit of planning is the central station at base, otherwise you always just build double tracks wherever you're going

Oh yeah I avoid such problems by rushing trains and avoiding anything long distance

Might even buy the stuff from the shop to unlock them instantly

[leaden turret]

define "long distance", cos "spanning just the entirety of rocky desert" is too much for me 😛

[shy mulch]

Even that can end up getting messy sometimes, always plan for expansion. I accidentally made a rail hub with about 18 stations lol, oops

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1413459884690771978

[cedar socket]

yooooo u helped me w my rocket fuel

[shy mulch]

I did?

[cedar socket]

ye

[true mulch]

Oh yeah my steel factory on the edge of RD isn't connected to base in any way, I just drive there with a tractor. Might not connect it at all if I upgrade the depot enough

[shy mulch]

That makes me happy 😛

[cedar socket]

lemme show you my design it kinda like yours maybe ul remember

gotta go there first

[leaden turret]

one supposes I could get back into trains by using temporary tractors on viaducts instead of temporary belts on viaducts...

[true mulch]

Building roads defeats any advantages trucks have over other methods

[deep pier]

are the green rocks radioactive?

[true mulch]

If it's not faster to build than a belt then it's a waste of time

[true mulch]

Yea

[boreal musk]

those it hurts you when youre near it?

[deep pier]

how do I not take dmg from them?

[true mulch]

Hazmat suit in tier 7 (?)

[deep pier]

ggs

[true mulch]

Or just don't pick them up and outheal

They deal less damage than poison gas

[deep pier]

I am not picking them up but there is something I want like in the middle of them

[leaden turret]

is confused in the context of "use tractors until ready to build rails and swap out truck station with train station"

[shy mulch]

Looks great!

[crystal siren]

have a healing asthma spray ready and use it, you can quickly get the slug or mercer sphere or whatever you wanna collect

[cedar socket]

ty

[true mulch]

Hmm well I guess if you use the road to build the railway later it won't be such a waste

Wrong reply @leaden turret

[shy mulch]

My 3 saves are 13h, 186h, 930h. Total 1129. But steam says I am 1203. Did I really spend 72 hours sitting on the loading screen? lool

74*

[crystal siren]

swapping truck station with train station? Train station will be like 10x as big

[cedar socket]

crazy XD

[true mulch]

That's entire playthroughs of several other games lol

[shy mulch]

yep haha

[true mulch]

It's insane how the time spent in a game doesn't translate into the value or impact it leaves

I remember games with <20 hours of play time yet I have 2000 on Satis

[boreal musk]

my 40hrs of alien isolation felt like forever than my 1.2k hrs of satisfactory

[shy mulch]

I've only been playing this since 1.0 was released. God, imagine my hours if I started early lol

[regal lantern]

I've got a few games I've sunk 7-10k hours in, none will affect my sanity as my 400 hours of SF

[ripe basin]

#screenshots message

Everything i build is pure garbage

[regal lantern]

Most of that sanity damage is committing to something dumb and realising how dumb it is half way through

And being too committed to undo it all

Like building 256 coal plants in the sky with 96 extractors and an ungodly amount of packagers to get water to the plants

[coral glacier]

"Yes"

When did you start playing?
"Yes."
How many Hours do you have?
"Yes."
How many saves do you have?
"Four."

[shy mulch]

close enough

[coral glacier]

Hey, i'm sure you'd have more than three saves in who knows how many hours.

[boreal musk]

how many saves do you have?
"none. I deleted them all."

[coral glacier]

Unless you're insane

[shy mulch]

why

I am insane

My 930h save, I am quite sure I'll still be playing at 5k

[coral glacier]

[regal lantern]

How long does it take to load that save?

[ripe basin]

@violet oyster lets talk here

[coral glacier]

2000 years, later.

[silk rose]

Depends

[regal lantern]

My modest 320h monstrosity takes a good few seconds to load

[violet oyster]

Whats a good PM for a first aluminium factory? I just hit stage 4 and finished a modular frame factory

I dont have the HDD for any recipes yet

[boreal musk]

at least its not as bad as pre ue5, where load and autosave took long ass time

back then, if your save is big enough, autosave can freeze the game for good 3-5 minutes

[coral glacier]

How many reactors do you have?

[regal lantern]

Nuclear reactors?

[coral glacier]

Yes?

[ripe basin]

Also i lied
I didnt notice that i checked regular frames.
That factory (#screenshots message) produces only 5 pm

[regal lantern]

About 320

[coral glacier]

Uranium?

[ripe basin]

But in theory i can clock everything to 200 percent and it will be 10

[regal lantern]

Not sure the split between Uranoium, Plutonium and Ficsonium anymore

[violet oyster]

are you making components elsewhere? How is it so compact for even 5pm

[regal lantern]

It's been a while since I ventured to that side of the map

[ripe basin]

No, i just use alts

[coral glacier]

Plutonium is better than uranium in every way in terms of power production and fuel consumption rate.

[violet oyster]

Damn, Alts must be good haha

[coral glacier]

Ficsonium is a joke and should only be used as a "dump" for plutonium waste.

[regal lantern]

Oh yeah, I don't need to worry about power for anything ever again

Made my nuclear setup a while ago

[violet oyster]

I just hit aluminium, whats a good PM for a first aluminium factory with no alts

[ripe basin]

Let me check what i have

[violet oyster]

This is my first playthrough and im loving this game, nearlt 300 hours (probably like 100 actually playing)

[boreal musk]

this is 24/min, its very compact
#screenshots message

[coral glacier]

I smell efficiency

[violet oyster]

With alts?

[coral glacier]

Im so excited when i'll be able to post my plutonium farm :)

[boreal musk]

i did use some alt

wet concrete
pure iron ingot
heavy encased frame
cast screw
steel frame
pipe beam

[violet oyster]

Should I just invest the time and get all the HDDs before I progresd?

[boreal musk]

go for it, if you think its worth your time

[ripe basin]

I used (God forgive me for i have sinned) iron alloy
HEF
Steel modular frame

Also wet concrete

[coral glacier]

Concrete my Beloved.

[boreal musk]

iron alloy is decent tho, better paired with copper alloy

[coral glacier]

Without Concrete, i couldn't make my precious Nuclear Power Plant

[ripe basin]

I used caterium wire for stiched iron plates

So no screws needed

[boreal musk]

oh forgot to mention, this factory used 10GW power

[ripe basin]

(Wait, does steel modular frame exist?)

[violet oyster]

Alrighty, I think the plan is gonna be get all the sloops, hdds and mercers. Then unlock MK5 belts, then alt recipes, then basic aluminium.

I also really need to get my trains going, I have the tracks laid out, But no trains yet haha, they are scary

[ripe basin]

Spoiler
Bring copper to aluminum plant

[coral glacier]

Only when transporting Uranium

[violet oyster]

It just seems confusing to setup with the stop and go signs

[boreal musk]

this is what it looks like with fully load balanced 2/min default recipe hmf
#screenshots message

[violet oyster]

Wow that pretty

How do you plan for where things will go so well?

[boreal musk]

i dont plan, the only things i have is number

i expand as i need

[unkempt blade]

and yet not a single factory cart in sight so there's still room for improvement

[violet oyster]

We cant all play the bleeding edge of absolute chad meta.

[unkempt blade]

Hey don't underestimate yourself. You're an amazing talented person who is totally capable of using factory carts to achieve true greatness

[boreal musk]

#screenshots message
thats what led to this scuffed mega factory i have to feed all my needs for build gun

[violet oyster]

How do you see your monitor over your huge junk?

[ripe basin]

🎵Там, где пехота не пройдёт
И бронепоезд не промчится,
Тяжёлый танк не проползёт -
Там пролетит стальная птица!🎵
(Its a fragment from the soviet march called "Стальная эскадрилья" but i think that this particular fragment fits the theme of drones)

[crystal siren]

When loading my game the blueprints are always in another random order than before where I sorted them. Is there any known fix so they stay in the defined order?

[boreal musk]

actually, adding some carts circling around my factory would be fun

[ripe basin]

(What makes me think that is the fact that drones can really go anywhere except caves)

[regal lantern]

#screenshots message

I'm going to be upset when they add MK7 Conveyors

Running this amount of belts has been a lot so far and I'm only half way done

Even more mad when we get MK8 in 4 patches

I should have used trains lol

[unkempt blade]

Pretty sure they can go to caves too. They just clip through whatever is over them last I saw

[violet oyster]

Im looking out for the MK308 belts in 2245

[dense violet]

Good thing it won’t happen

[regal lantern]

Quantum belts, moving resources immediately from one point to another

[boreal musk]

drones doesnt have collision on terrain as far as im aware

they will clip, but they will try their best to not to

[coral glacier]

That is facinating 👀

[violet oyster]

Correct, I can confirm this because in LGIO josh makes them clip like crazy and they still work

[unkempt blade]

I've been suggesting "portal pipes" along those lines 😆

[coral glacier]

Quantum Pipes-

oh

XD

[boreal musk]

quantum screws

[violet oyster]

Reverse dimensional depots.

[unkempt blade]

you need to make them totally unavoidable in certain production chains for maximum community support

[coral glacier]

[violet oyster]

Perhaps a resource that has some kind of half life that reduces its potency with time.

[unkempt blade]

if it's on a belt for more than 30 meters it halves into quantum nails

[real wolf]

@violet oyster a little more strees and that power grid is gonna say 0.0mw

[violet oyster]

I like to live dangerously.

[real wolf]

Maybe add some batteries

[cursive crane]

My lord fellow get some power storages

[violet oyster]

Yeh its probably time

[trail aspen]

Are we allowed to talk about mods here

[unkempt blade]

I'm not sure, are they factory cart related mods?

[trail aspen]

I mean a mod that changes liquid physics to nitrogen physics, that is to say, remove them

[hard ivy]

sure, but you might wanna go to the modding discord instead, depending on the question

[unkempt blade]

you know what doesn't have to worry about headlift? factory carts

[trail aspen]

how many cups of water can the cart transport xd

[unkempt blade]

one full stack worth

[obsidian zodiac]

in short, casually yes! refer to our #rules channel for more info on specifics tho 🙂

[trail aspen]

Cool. Was just wondering if anyone know of a mod that turned the liquid physics in to nitrogen physics

That's pretty much the only thing I don't like about the game, the liquid physics

[hard ivy]

There should be one called "all fluids are gasses" or something like that

I might be wrong about what it's called, but I'm pretty sure it exists

[trail aspen]

Thanks. I'm sure I'm not the only one that wanted it so I was pretty sure there was one haha

[unkempt blade]

you're correct, lots of people have big feelings about pipe behavior

[trail aspen]

Yeah I know it makes sense to some, but when you got an exact amount going in and out of the connection with no headlift and it still doesn't do it evenly I just lose my mind

like splitting 300/m in to three buildings but one of them just doesn't get the amount it needs

[steady glade]

is the one that doesnt get enough straight ahead?

[trail aspen]

You don't have to explain it, really. I've looked at a bunch of tutorials and I pretty much know how to fix most issues with it

But it's just unneccessary work in my opinion

[ripe basin]

Maybe today ill finally buy helldivers 2

[trail aspen]

It's such a good game

[ripe basin]

Yea

[steady glade]

he trying to infiltrate super earth's forces

he's a threat to Managed Democracy™

[cedar socket]

FINALLY 576 POWER SHARDS

[unkempt blade]

it needs more factory carts otherwise what are we even fighting for?

[glad drum]

#screenshots message --- in case you didn't know, you can squeeze 2 assemblers on the edges of another assembler - with very minimal clipping!

gotta be efficient with your space, pioneers

[unkempt blade]

especially with such a well organized factory!

[glad drum]

It's super well organized! I know where everything is at all times...

[sick dragon]

Now where did i make my iron plates...

[unkempt blade]

Easy! It's under the pile

[exotic pilot]

#screenshots

pls tell me how to fix this

[steady glade]

right click, copy message link helps a lot

use clean pipe variant

[exotic pilot]

#screenshots message

ohhh thats how people do it

[exotic pilot]

is that in awesome shop

[steady glade]

ye normal is cool to get an indicator of what goes in but i hate it

[deep pier]

can anyone help me? IDK what to do next I just got the coal thing but all the nods are far away and IDK how to connect them and water then have power in the base

[sweet tusk]

Do tractors and trucks use different stations? I don't have trucks yet but I'm planning on switching to them later and I want to be sure to give more space for a larger station if I need to.

[exotic pilot]

do you know why only those 4 have it tho

[steady glade]

not sure, i thought you had those already

[exotic pilot]

no i just bought them

[steady glade]

yes its the same

[glad drum]

yeah thats right! top box under the pile, 2nd stack from the hub 🙂 see, organized

[exotic pilot]

the indicators are also slightly offset higher up

#screenshots message

[steady glade]

the 2 connected lakes north of the grass fields have 4 or 6 nodes and water

[solid storm]

This was an interesting structure. #screenshots message

[steady glade]

water's a bit far from the nodes but you can belt the coal around

[deep pier]

sorry I am slow can you be a little more specifc on where that is?

[steady glade]

||-814, 1532||

[deep pier]

OMG that's so helpful thanks

[deep pier]

and so I build a base there or is there a way to move the power from there?

[steady glade]

you should belt over the close nodes, overclock them to get as much coal as you can

[steady glade]

you'll have to use the normal poles until you get a better way to move power

btw you should reasearch in the mam

[ivory condor]

My biggest grip is even gas in pipes cannot be delivered at 600m3, aka mk2 pipes feel broken, like actually something wrong with it

[steady glade]

i can move fluids at 600m3 if im deliberate with piping

[limpid cairn]

Is there a way to drop only a certain amount of items off with a train ?

[ivory condor]

Yes true, but if you just do a pipe manifold and think surely 600m3 will work with it, your in for a harsh lesson

[steady glade]

not exactly, there are hacks but at best you can move a number of stacks

[steady glade]

yeah manifolds take like an hour to stabilize but it works for the most part

[hard ivy]

yes. pull exactly that amount from the platforms. the train won't drop off more than is being removed

[deep pier]

I do but what's in there that I should be looking for?

[ivory condor]

Problem i have found is just a regular manifold never stabilizes at 600m3, closet i have seen on some is like 560m3 and it will fluctuate even lower, worse still the pipe itself also won't ever get completely full, even if you try to prefill it, that pipe will slowly empty and never recover

[steady glade]

do everything you can but 1st clue is ||caterium||

[ivory condor]

And this is with gas,which you think should be fine but alas

[steady glade]

that was the case until 1.1 for me, and i found out the last few things that caused issues for me

like minimal elevation changes and snapping junctions to pipes

[ivory condor]

Problem is for me the problems exist in 1.1 with pipes to

And this is all straight manifolds, aka no elevation, and it still fails

[steady glade]

would you mind sending me your save please? so i can see whats up

[ivory condor]

Sure i even sent it to Guru, thats probably still giving them nightmares

[rare rivet]

when going at nuclear power for the first time should we start small, like 1 impure node at 300/m? or even smaller? and what about dealing with waste, is the next tier of fuel rod really the only way, cuz that's a lot of work lol

[steady glade]

depends how much effort you wanna put into it

you could just make containers waay up in the sky or you can try to setup the 1st recycling line

[ivory condor]

well enjoy my cursed rocket fuel blender manifolds in that save file

I'm sure Guru is still waking up at night in a cold sweat

[rare rivet]

I was thinking of just taking a train of the uranium out to the ocean, since water seems like a pain with only mk2 pipes, with a large flat space like that i dont really mind doing a large factory because building costs atp are quite cheap, but also that much water kinda scares me, that's a lot of pipes and i have already had my fair share of fluid issues... also for recycling i really would like to avoid just putting it somewhere to rot XD that's just creating an annoying problem for future me

[hard ivy]

Waste can either be stored ot turned into the next tier of rod

[rare rivet]

ah dang so it really is only that option, pain

[clear wadi]

ok i get to the point where i can cant continue build if i dont tear my generator but im so worry that i will run out of stuff before i finish the new one

should i leave and upgrade my coal power plant?

[steady glade]

heheheh inb4 tears

glhf

[frail sleet]

Power lines. You unlock longer range ones also, but you can very easily make a chain of power poles that has arbitrary length

[rare rivet]

are you just worried about running out of power? if so just make some power storages

[steady glade]

unless he's planned it out, itll take soo many power storages to compensate

[clear wadi]

oh yeah

[rare rivet]

since he's talking about coal power i'm assuming we're under like 5kmw here, so power storages arent too bad of an option

[clear wadi]

i havent bring coal and sulfur in yet i still run out of space

[frail sleet]

I would not really bother with uranium, since a plutonium plant makes like 1/20'th of the waste per gigawatt - but if you really want simple and don't want nitro rocket fuel, then it's doable.

600 uranium = 180 GW gross.

If you do plutonium, then 200 uranium into uranium fuel unit, plutonium fuel unit to make 180GW gross.

You definitely don't need to use 2100 uranium regardless 😛

[reef basin]

Make more power*

[rare rivet]

oh you're doing turbofuel...

[clear wadi]

yeah

[upper gale]

Just use regular fuel for now till you got the other stuff ready

[steady glade]

thats like 30-50 power storages per hour to maintain operations for 1h, maybe half assuming he made nothing too huge

[clear wadi]

im temporarily running every thing with 10 fuel generator

[rare rivet]

i mean, prolly wont work to offset a fuel gen setup cuz you'd need so many, but power storages are a godsend if you need to work on your power generation for a bit and disconnect it without powering everything down

[clear wadi]

thats the point

they are in my way

[rare rivet]

if that's not overclocked then power storages are possible lol

[hard ivy]

or just use regular fuel in general. turbo is very meh

[clear wadi]

refinery are soo chonky

[rare rivet]

but it's cooler

[reef basin]

Usually I'd just build new, not disconnect anything

[rare rivet]

idr, does turbofuel increase fuel gen output or does it just have a slower burn rate

[clear wadi]

u read my mind =))

[hard ivy]

it just burns slower

[shrewd palm]

better fuels burn slower

[clear wadi]

slower brun rate

[reef basin]

It has more energy, gens make same power no matter the fuel

[clear wadi]

7.5 compare to 20 with normal fuel

[hard ivy]

calling turbofuel and ionized fuel "better" fuels is questionable

[upper gale]

Are you really close to your power limit right now?

[clear wadi]

yeah

[shrewd palm]

true

better for jetpack at least ig

[rare rivet]

i mean getting a lot more power out of the same amount of oil is nice but maybe that's a non issue at that point in the game?

[upper gale]

Oof yeah it is troublesome. You might need to shut down some things to give yourself power to work with

[clear wadi]

my heavy mordular frame

[rare rivet]

has there been any talk of mk3 pipes being a possibility?

[upper gale]

Yeah that's prob a lot of machines right there

[clear wadi]

1k4 mw

[hard ivy]

Turbo isn't even better than LBF for the jetpack lol

[hard ivy]

Yes, and they're an impossibility

[rare rivet]

lol, well that's good to know at least

[upper gale]

I use jetpack for it's verticality so turbofuel all the way. And zipline for distance

If you're using jetpack for distance then yeah LBF

[rare rivet]

there's no sustainable way to make it tho right? that always scared me away from doing it

satisfactory mob farm when

[upper gale]

hypertube cannon for distance

[rare rivet]

that with the jetpack is like the standard for travelling long distance lol

liquids are finicky, i've had a few cases of pipes just not transferring fluids even though they're directly connected and even going downhill

[clear wadi]

is there any way to zipline without holding left mouse?

[rare rivet]

right click once

[hard ivy]

Click right

[clear wadi]

oh

[rare rivet]

i think there's also a setting for it?

[hard ivy]

Sloops in every step and 1 creature remains becomes 533 packaged LBF. Or like 8 hours of flying

[rare rivet]

ope

okay, i know what my next miniproject is when i play tomorrow

actually yeah, i can prolly just decimate a local forest and have lbf for eons

how good is it? i've never used it iirc

[hard ivy]

It's slow but lasts a very long time

Perfect for building, getting high up and hypercannoning

[rare rivet]

i'd heard it was really efficient, how's the thrust compared to reg fuel, that's what we're on rn

[spark oracle]

Like half

But it lasts way longer

[hard ivy]

Speed is basically the same lol

[spark oracle]

Is it?

[hard ivy]

Lasts like 2-3x longer

[spark oracle]

I feel really slow using it 🤷

[rare rivet]

i was about to say, if it's half the thrust that seems worse than biofuel lol

solid i mean

[knotty wren]

I messed up and did a long conveyor the wrong direction - there's no easy way to reverse the direction is there?

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch jetpack

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=jetpack

[rare rivet]

wait it's better than reg fuel lol

wait solid biofuel is better than fuel? man i really dont know my stuff, maybe it was placebo

[upper gale]

Checked a video of the jetpack fuels from 1.0 and it showed turbofuel 50m height and LBF 58m height so welp I may be wrong

[rare rivet]

it'd be nice if they had some way to do horizontal thrust

[upper gale]

Zipline would be useless after that hehe

I just like zipline because sometimes it takes skill to stay on the line

Kinda fun trying not to hit the poles

[rare rivet]

use power towers lol

[upper gale]

Yeah you'll be zoomin on those, faster holding shift

[limpid cairn]

turbo and LBF are equal turbo just is faster in height acceleration iirc

[upper gale]

Sounds about right

[spark oracle]

im gonna turn my 49 hog remains into 462.23333 hours of fligt time

[upper gale]

The rest of your save file

[spark oracle]

i wish im almost 90 hours in and havent started anything phase 3 exceept hand feeeding versatilee frameworks

[upper gale]

Real

[spark oracle]

I want to redo literally everything to make only basic resources from resource nodess and feed it to one central area but my brain cant comprehend logistics

doesnt help that i spent like 12 hours making HALF of my oil rig

also i ran out of encased beams for mk4 belts so i have to sully my beatiful steel factory with a quick n dirty beam setup

[limpid cairn]

are you using alt recipes for steel?

[spark oracle]

ye

basic iron ingot and solid steel

[upper gale]

Yeah when you start using mk4 you just don't stop
Becomes an addiction

[shy mulch]

"more calorific fuels"

[spark oracle]

480 iron
768 limestone
960 coal

plus more limestone for wet concrete for the beams

1440 steel is worth it tho

i wanna learn better logistics like connecting factories bc the way im making my factories rn is NOT sustainable for more complicated parts

[upper gale]

The impending spaghetti consumes us

[spark oracle]

id rather start over than let the spaghetti happe

[hard ivy]

Idk if I'd consider connecting factories a "better" way of doing logistics lol

[civic shale]

Is there alr something known about the price of the console version of satisfactory?

[hard ivy]

None of my factories are connected with anything except power

[spark oracle]

well better than what im doing rn

[shy mulch]

reading the chat above I feel like trying LBF for jetpack now. I've been using ionized for so long, but never tried LBF. I only really use jetpack when cannoning or the rare cases when I am going away from a power source, I'm mostly on hoverpack

[spark oracle]

so far ive just been doing 1 node to 1 product

but i dont wanna keep making the same product that i have a ton of excess of for each factory

[mellow cove]

Anybody here that could help me with train split? I made a post on #1038092680493801533

[tired temple]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[hard ivy]

a 30% discount just finished less than a week ago

[unkempt blade]

you should probably just get new friends, these ones seem to have bad taste

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> dare you to do a €1 discount per year since 1.0 each year 😛

[upper gale]

Maybe just different taste. I bought satis for 2 friends before, for one of them the game just didn't click. And the other one found it good but not addictive

I think you need a certain type of mind to get hooked on this game, else it won't really stick

I mean it's not colorful instant dopamine like Fortnite. You gotta work for it

[leaden turret]

embrace the spaghett https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=spaghett

[upper gale]

That's some good looking spaghett

[unkempt blade]

exactly! he needs some new friends 😄

[leaden turret]

that's what #1201555265942724758 is for 😛

[frail sleet]

LBF has more thrust than Fuel and also lasts like 2-3x as long - there's basically no scenario where using fuel for jetpack makes sense, since LBF unlocks at the same time and is trivial to produce in the neccesary quantities

[obsidian zodiac]

mikael is out of office until october btw. we wont have a promotion for satisfactory next week, but also idk when the next time itll be under 20 euros. my apologies to your friends

[hard ivy]

<20 EUR would require a 50% discount. I sincerely doubt that's gonna happen anytime soon

[velvet idol]

or ever

[hard ivy]

happened twice before

at least according to SteamDB

[velvet idol]

ok, correction: or ever again

[upper gale]

Maybe the biggest automation sale on steam ever or something. But we don't get big sales like we used to

[frail sleet]

before launch, though? The game was cheaper in early access

[unkempt blade]

you've got to act like the borderlands ceo did and tell them if they're real fans friends they'll find $40

[frail sleet]

you missed a 0

[hard ivy]

before launch, yes. but 50% is 50%

[upper gale]

Still costs less than most big games

[spark oracle]

Good lord man have you no shame???

[upper gale]

Lmao

[frail thistle]

anyone else crash when rerouting teleporters

[split trench]

jfc

[dim flint]

TIL if you hold CTRL while dragging ore (anything) to the trash, it trashes it all.

[leaden turret]

I don't build like that 😛

[leaden turret]

this is what your community does to your game 😁

[unkempt blade]

because you're on the factory cart hype train and you don't need as many belts now?

[leaden turret]

no, I am more firmly in the school of lasagn https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=lasagn AND belts

[unkempt blade]

oh 🙁

[leaden turret]

neat chaos greater than messy chaos

[spark oracle]

real

[restive knot]

How does this auto connect work for blueprints? Like can I have 2 streetlights in a row and connect their wires automatically between blueprints? What does that setting do?

[spark oracle]

idk if it works for power but if you have a bp with belts or pipes it will try to connect them if they are close/lined up

[restive knot]

so for belts it just auto lays the orange dotted connections I can see when placing a new manifold for example?

[spark oracle]

wait now that i thnk about it im 99% sure they dont connect power lines

[spark oracle]

pretty much if you turn it on it will show the connections they are making when you see the blueprint hologram

[restive knot]

okay thanks

[spark oracle]

np

[swift forum]

i really appreciate this latest update devs! i've been using the object scanner here recently as i just unlocked it and all of a sudden i can't even use it anymore?? well looks like im uninstalling until its fixed

[spark oracle]

I dont think thats the update

[swift forum]

unless there's a function or something i'm missing, i'm also just going to change my review to negative

literally ruined the entire game

[spark oracle]

What

[hard ivy]

the object scanner works fine lmao

[swift forum]

nobody online has anything related to the issue i'm having. i was having a blast running around collecting power slugs until i got up pretty high to get one with the scanner out, and then all of a sudden i "have no range" or whatever the stupid icon flashing on the scanner is. i just gave up because that pretty much ruined the enthusiasm i had.

[hard ivy]

bro doesn't know how the scanner works and blames the game 💀 💀 💀

[restive knot]

I had an issue where I couldnt use my hotbar a restart of the game fixed it tho

[hard ivy]

iterally skill issue

[swift forum]

and on top of that the entire game gives you no prompts either

[hard ivy]

go change your review of yourself to negative instead lmao

[swift forum]

i just returned it to the void by permanently removing it from my library

[woeful ocean]

whats the easiest way to do nuclear power without waste? and have the least amount of refining?

[hard ivy]

sink plutonium rods

and make the bare miniumum of them

[woeful ocean]

ohh okay, but what do you mean by bare minimum of them?

[hard ivy]

you can make between 1/4 and 4/3 as many plutonium rods as uranium rods burned

for sinking make the minimim, so 1/4

making more than that is just a waste of resources

[swift forum]

this game is literally engineered for the unemployed. i'm glad i removed it

[past robin]

that one just isn't true

[unkempt blade]

alternatively, only make uranium rods and then fill trains with uranium waste and have them drive around your factory

[swift forum]

alternatively you could get a job

[unkempt blade]

I have a job, I play satis during it 😄

get rekt employment shamer, go use some factory carts or something

[past robin]

my job feels like i'm playing satis during it

[hard ivy]

alternatively tou could just get out of here and stop complaining

[woeful ocean]

plutonium fuel rods no? is it not possible to sink the plutonium pellets?

[swift forum]

i'll take "op pulled some shit out their ass" for 500

[hard ivy]

no. only plutonium rods

[swift forum]

stick a plutonium rod where the sun doesn't shine please

[tame marlin]

i got 5 iron ingot > 9 copper wire should i get that? sounds ugly to use that but alternative is 6 inventory slots

[unkempt blade]

<@&387163995947270144> this seems like one for you all

[north cloud]

@swift forum any particular reason why you just join the server to start crap like this?

[hard ivy]

it's especially good with stitched iron plate, steel rotor and probably a few other things

[restive knot]

I would say "personality" is the reason xd

[near frost]

yeppie just finished phase 2 stuff

what the flip is the past doin here

[tame marlin]

i dont understand why is it good if i can just use copper instead is same speed

[past robin]

brother has a bible verse in his bio too 😭

[restive knot]

And talks like hes on reddit

[hard ivy]

iron is very easy and cheap. plus the other things take iron anyway, so you just use more iron instead of having to get copper on top of that

[spark oracle]

so just to be clear the no signal icon showed up when you were out of range of any slugs... like the object scanenr is supposed to?

god i hate when the game works as intended

6/10 ragebait

[leaden turret]

phone has no signal in cave, cave is pants

[restive knot]

Are there any things in the awesome shop I dont see immediately and only see after progressing the game? Or do I see everything from the beginning?

[spark oracle]

yes to the first part

you unlock stuff in the MAM research

and i think some hub upgrades too?

[leaden turret]

and some easter eggs

and some seasonal shit

[restive knot]

Well yes but theres thinks I see and they say I need research,

[spark oracle]

oh i havent heard of these easter eggs

[restive knot]

so theres also things I dont see that need research still?

[spark oracle]

oh no thats my bad i think everything you see is whats there besides this alleged easter egg stuff and seasonal things

[leaden turret]

possibly

[restive knot]

are any of those easter eggs light related stuff? Cause Im planning my indoor lighting rn

[leaden turret]

my knowledge is out-of-date but says no

[restive knot]

k thx

[hard ivy]

you can clap lights on and off

[spark oracle]

i love satisfactory devs

[restive knot]

you can add and remove everything but maybe I wanna shape my whole building different and dont wanna redo an hour worth of work because of something I didnt know exist

[spark oracle]

it be like that

'tis the nature of satisfactory to take it all down

[leaden turret]

satisfactory devs:

• added eggplants to the map
• made alpha stingers jump way higher without telling anyone
• added johnny
• removed the walls with two separate faces on, leaving my factories inside out

[obsidian zodiac]

and youre grateful

[spark oracle]

you're gah damn right I am

[leaden turret]

unannounced changes alpha stinger jump height tweaks & johnny; CSS path to a healthy colon for their community

CSS, keeping you regularl via spoopy stuff

[obsidian zodiac]

laxatives? try satisfactory

great tiktok idea thank you marv

[leaden turret]

you can use them toilet rentals you were googling for 😛

[spark oracle]

my roommate can confirm i was screaming the first time I found the alpha spiders

[clear wadi]

is this blue print ok?#screenshots

[leaden turret]

Pioneer greenscreened into swedish porta potty

[obsidian zodiac]

riiiiiight. the porta potties i was conveniently renting while filming

[obsidian zodiac]

looks great 🙂

[spark oracle]

logistics floor is kinda big for me but thats just my opinion otherwise looks nice

(i dont make logistics floors i make logistics nightmares)

organized people tell scary stories about me around the campfire

[clear wadi]

i didnt know there is logistic floor till this evening

[leaden turret]

I can't remember who it was, but I remember seeing on twitter one of the Coffee Stainers enjoying a clip of a player getting the crapped scared out of them when they found out the hard way that the jump height had been increased

[clear wadi]

i wouldnt have to rebuild this soo many time

[spark oracle]

i love the videos of devs reacting to josh's playthrough of satisfactory

every 5 seconds is "oh i didnt know we could do that" or "oh I don't think we should do that"

[leaden turret]

alternate idea: ||hop into a porta potty, use it as a TURDIS and land on MASSAGE-2(A-B)b||

||step in as human, step out as pioneer||

👀 Clips Archive YouTube channel is 5 years old 👀

[median shell]

Tysm for your work

[small notch]

40 hours and ive finally completed phase 2

[desert bridge]

if im doing a diluted packaged fuel into unpackager loop, i would assume its a good idea to prefill the whole system before letting it all run together right?

[uncut pier]

quick question about the hoverpack, I see that I can descend with "C" but is there a way to just cut it and fall?

ah got it

double tap c

[spark oracle]

That’s what I did

Otherwise it takes a long time for the canisters to come back

[past robin]

I need to go from 4 belts of 1200 to 6 belts of 720 😭

I don't want to do that

[plain gate]

mk5 is 780, mk1 is 60. easy ratio

or 1200 split then add 120 via mk2

[past robin]

yeah 1200 split to mk2 is probably the best

that is litteraly the last step to my rocket fuel factory

other than make it look better outside

[desert bridge]

ill post a SS of what im doing in the channel here based off of only 600 oil

[spark oracle]

Holy twin me too

[spark oracle]

When I get home in like an hour or so I’ll send a ss of my I’ll setup lol

[desert bridge]

yeah im only producing like 4.5k of power RN so i have to fill it slowly or it will just trip

[past robin]

i'm about to finish my 432,000MW fuel factory

its been like a 40 hour project

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[mystic oriole]

I've seen this one before, whatever you do, don't develop an app with him.

[past robin]

do you wanna develop an app?

[gritty zealot]

Just when I was thinking about developing an app, this must be destiny

[spice patio]

And completely wrong channel to spew such self-promotion, which is against the #rules anyways.

[mystic oriole]

common don't be a Jerry for once in your life.

[tame marlin]

i dont have tier 3 researched but im starting to build a big factory for every material ( mistake probably idk? )
how many connections does the coal generator give? i dont know if i research it first and use it or if i keep using bio gens

[regal lantern]

Can you make an app that'll evaluate the dumb designs I choose to make and stop me before I start committing to them?

[tame marlin]

how many energy poles can i connect to coal power generator?

[regal lantern]

1

[tame marlin]

nyani

[regal lantern]

You can connect many things to the poles though

[wheat wyvern]

Hello chat

[tame marlin]

oh right im stupid

nvm me :>

how much does it generate then

hm

well probably worth making it

[regal lantern]

Coal power plant? 75MW

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Coal-Powered_Generator

[cedar socket]

@elfin berry why’d u put red on my screen shot is it wrong?

[dense cave]

is there any mods that optimizes graphics?

[spark oracle]

check #screenshots

[desert bridge]

ya yours looks somewhat more organized than mine lol

let me get a better aerial shot

[spark oracle]

thats only half the generators 😭

i took my ss midair being shot out of a hypertube so it looks like shit

[desert bridge]

there put a better aerial lol

[spark oracle]

it helps supplement my plastic production bc so far my computers eat all of the rubber from my experiment with oil

[desert bridge]

yeah once i get more resources and power ill just be using every node at max for oil and bringing it somewhere on the map

[elfin berry]

I loved your color scheme! ❤️🔴

[cedar socket]

Oh tysm

[tame marlin]

my energy poles are spending like 0.7mw but no machine is turned on

[placid stirrup]

What tier are you at? Possibly hoverpack?

[tame marlin]

tier 3

[lost cloak]

can you somehow export blueprints?

[tame marlin]

they are connected to machines that have the yellow energy color cause they dont have resources

[placid stirrup]

I want to say there's a passive consumption from machines but someone fact check me on that. @white dawn would probably know

[lost cloak]

i wish blueprints was tied to account, so i could take them between saves..

[spark oracle]

you can import/export

[lost cloak]

oh how?

[placid stirrup]

They're in your game files

Folder next to game saves I believe

[lost cloak]

so on multiplayer where im not the host, i have to send them the file?

[placid stirrup]

To add to that session, yes, if you haven't created the BP on that save

[lost cloak]

booo

[placid stirrup]

It takes 5sec

[lost cloak]

no

i have to find the folder, then send it to someone, they have to download it, they have to find the folder and put it in.

Thats a solid minute of just annoyance, every time i make a new blueprint on a different save

[placid stirrup]

🎻

[spark oracle]

ggrrrrrrrr minor inconvienence grrrrr

[storm summit]

Hey guys im having a brain fart and i apologize for the noob question. im mainly the researcher and my buddy does a lot of the buildiing but he's not here so......im building a coal factory but while doing that all out fuses blew and i can't figure out the source of the power. Like im tracing back the poles but....what powers the poles?

even the biomass burners need power but what powers the power?

[spark oracle]

the power powers the power

[dim flint]

Using photo mode to check the status of far away buildings/belts is a great little trick.

[storm summit]

i dont know what that means

[spark oracle]

honestly i dont either but im confused by your question

[topaz shale]

Finally got fused modular frames being made. Hell yeah.

[storm summit]

I'm not getting power. i built everything im supposed to and hooked it up but where do the power lines through the cables get their power?

where do i run those to? im not getting any power even tho the connections are correct

[spark oracle]

can you send a screenshot of your setup?

if the coal generators have coal and water they should work as soon as theyre connected to the power lines

[topaz shale]

Are you out of biofuel in your biofuel burners?

[fluid sapphire]

are the generators working?

[storm summit]

it would be too many screen shots mate we're all over the place.

[spark oracle]

dm them to me its fine

[storm summit]

it says the fuse blew all of it everywhere

can't figure out what exactly needs fixed.

[spark oracle]

the fuse blew bc you used more power than ur making

[storm summit]

how do i make more power? more water plant things?

[spark oracle]

I would just disconnect the coal gens, turn it back on and reconnect them after turning off a couple machines

[fluid sapphire]

basically you need to power your miners and water extractors to get the coal power started again, you will have to use biomass burners for that

you should probably disconnect the generators from the rest of the grid before you try this

[storm summit]

how do i power the miners with no power though

hmmm i'll check that i guess i have no idea how to do this

[fluid sapphire]

i just told you, biomass burners

[spark oracle]

if the gens are full which they should be then they might not even need to power the extracters and miners right?

[storm summit]

biomass burners are made...but they need power. i dont have any

[past robin]

i've got 7200 rocket fuel/min using one sulfur node

[fluid sapphire]

no bro, they need fuel, get some leaves or something

[spark oracle]

put biofuel in the burners

[fluid sapphire]

they provide power

[storm summit]

oh. i thought everything needed to be hooked up to power

[fluid sapphire]

well, yes, but different angles

generators and burners provide power to the grid when hooked up, other machines consume power

in both cases, yes, they need to be connected to the grid

[storm summit]

the biomass burners are FULL and the que for the biofuel is forever long....they didn't run out of power

[rough scarab]

i know i can google it and a map comes up but which interactive map do yall use if you use one?

[honest summit]

does "conveyor is too steep" actually stop the thing?

[eager palm]

SCIM

[spark oracle]

can you send a screenshot of your power grid? like click e on a pole and send a screenshot of the graph

[fluid sapphire]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

[fluid sapphire]

if you have a global grid, then the biomass burners having fuel doesnt matter, if you blow a fuse, then everything stops working, biomass burners only burn fuel when they are needed

as nothing is working, they dont burn anything

you exceeded your total power capacity

[honest summit]

^ like i mean stop the items from moving on it or what does it mean?

[storm summit]

i'll look up how to do a "global grid"

[fluid sapphire]

its not a specific term, i am just assuming you have everything hooked up on a single grid

[storm summit]

thanks for the input guys i'll try a few things and report back

lol it gets overwhelming so fast

[fluid sapphire]

you should probably disconnect some machines from the grid, if you have sub-sections

its all good, we have all experienced fuses blowing

its a lesson to keep an eye on your power consumption

[storm summit]

i messaged ya

[fluid sapphire]

might be better off making a thread on #1038092680493801533 , then its more than just me that can chime in

[near ferry]

Since your working on coal, your water collectors probably blew your fuse. SInce you need water to generate power, you need power for power. So popping in more Biomass burners will power your water collectors to provide water for your coal gens

[fluid sapphire]

oh. i didnt even consider what kind of situation this is

[fluid sapphire]

were you in the process of building a coal power plant, or is the plant already built and you were doing something else?

[spark oracle]

peak spaghetti in #screenshots for yall to enjoy

[vapid whale]

@wary field hey what mods are u using for decorations?

[stray herald]

@spark oracle If you press R while building conveyors it changes the mode from default to s traight then curved. These make it look way cleaner!

[dim flint]

Wait... you can just put uranium fuel rods right in the trash? No need to feed them back into a machine or leave them on the ground. Amazing!

[fluid sapphire]

why are you even making them in the first place if you are trashing them?

[dim flint]

I picked up 8 thinking I would run over to my other reactors to cold start them... boy I didn't have enough masks for that.

[fluid sapphire]

aah

[cyan valve]

whats the trick on hypertubes to curve tight without making it going noodles?

[silk harness]

guys Im still kinda new to satisfactory I'm early into midgame and I've had it since August 26th and I wanna know how to make my conveyors look less like spaghetti I recently got the achievement for 5km of conveyors and I've barely explored the map without using cheats and I've barely explored the map even with cheats

[dim dock]

hold T when you're placing conveyors, then use 'straight' mode.

also, don't be afraid to use the conveyor lifts.

additionally, try to use conveyors less over long distances, and use other modes of transport like trucks, trains.

again, this is just opinion. ultimately it's your choice.

[rustic hare]

I think the keybind is different, if you mean the change placement mode key, for mine it's bound to R by default

[dim dock]

it could be R. my bad

T is emotes

belt type is E, placement type is R. right

[vale grotto]

For less spaghetti, use foundations and stacked conveyor lifts to your advantage
Also remember that blueprints are very useful, I use them quite regularly

[silk harness]

indeed

I want trains asap so I don't have to use long conveyors

[vale grotto]

Use trucks before you get trains!!

[silk harness]

I know

but it's a pain to set up truck depots in my spaghetti conveyors

[dim dock]

not really needed

it's a choice. and trucks are kinda messy, true.

[vale grotto]

Not needed at all, but very fun to see them rolling around :)

[silk harness]

I like trains

[rustic hare]

heavily depends on the use case, I spawned in rocky deserts, and trucked my coal from the west coast up to the 4 pure iron nodes for steel when I started out

[silk harness]

I spawned in the plains

[vale grotto]

That's almost exactly what I did in my last save!! Remind me to grab some screenshots here in a bit lol

[dim dock]

i dont have the patience to drive the truck to set up a route, only to see it keeps destroying all foliage in its path.

so it's probably my thing.

[silk harness]

how come you've spent 18 hours in satisfactory

I got school

I wish I could do it tho

[rustic hare]

I just tore that setup down like 200hr ish ago and converted that 4 coal nodes to fuel my rocket power gens lol

[rustic hare]

got a 2 week break, also I slept for 6hrs to test the stability of my power system

[silk harness]

nice

I just automated coal

[rustic hare]

nice, you can now rest assured, one of the most stable power sources in the game besides APA

[silk harness]

I want apa but I can't find somersloops

[solemn crystal]

satisfactory calculator

[silk harness]

alright

lemme find it

[cedar socket]

I have only one apa

[solemn crystal]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

[solemn crystal]

bro i haev 6

[silk harness]

found it thanks tho

[cedar socket]

WHAT

[solemn crystal]

i said i have 6

[cedar socket]

Howwwwww

[solemn crystal]

6 x 10 = 60 somersloops

[rustic hare]

just spent some more hours setting up advanced settings for my trains and reworking train buffering system of the main station for higher throughput and resolving clogs, also merged some routes together, nice optimizations to allow further expansion

[solemn crystal]

whats the issue here

thers 103 somersloops on the map

and i got all of them
spent 60 of them on APA

[weak mesa]

How do I unlock the gold factory cart

[deep pier]

||feed the employee of the planet cup to the sink|| and it should be at the shop for 50 tickets

[weak mesa]

And how to get ||the employee of the planet cup||?

[fluid sapphire]

complete phase 5

[deep pier]

||finish the game, which you do by doing the final space elevator thing||

[weak mesa]

||Ok I thought it was phase 4||

Thanks

[cyan valve]

need help please. posted in questions as well titled hypertube help

[spark oracle]

so i may or may not have made 16,845 solid biofuel.......

maybe overboard perchance

[stray herald]

That's CRAZY

[spark oracle]

i used like half my hog remains 😭 i need some jetpack fuel

[fluid sapphire]

planning to finish the game with only biomass burners?

[spark oracle]

LMAO

i just want to fly for a long time bc im eons from getting the hoverpack

also unrelated but just thinking out loud I need to learn trains so i can connect my steel and iron factories to start making this phase 3 shit

[stray herald]

How far f rom oil are you?

[fluid sapphire]

hell yeah, trains is where sht gets real

[spark oracle]

im on oil i sent a picture of my "oil rig" in screenshots earlier

only halfway complete but a nice 10k MW boost

[stray herald]

Ah I see

Why not use fuel then

[spark oracle]

i am but fuel sucks

[supple rain]

Hello everypeoples

[stray herald]

You can convert the heavy oil residue from plastics to fuel if you don't want the hassle

[blissful granite]

turbo fuel

[spark oracle]

I have an infinite amount of fuel but biofuel is way better

[fluid sapphire]

regular fuel is like the worst thing for the jetpack for real

[stray herald]

This way you get some fuel to get the jetpack going. If you attach a dimensional depot to it you've got infinite fuel

[stray herald]

Really?

[spark oracle]

yea its awful

[stray herald]

I thought it was biofuel

[spark oracle]

no packaged biofuel is like 2nd best

[stray herald]

👋

[supple rain]

solid biofuel and packaged fuel are not great (but good enough for basic movement)

[spark oracle]

i think only turbo/rocket fuel match it in flight time

[blissful granite]

Wasnt sure how dimensional depots work and im on phase 9 still havent used them 🙁

[spark oracle]

WHATTTTTTT

[fluid sapphire]

just my feelings, i would take liquid biofuel over regular oil fuel any day, for fuel, the burn time sucks and the lift isnt enough to make up for it

[supple rain]

impossible

[blissful granite]

well almost phase 9

[spark oracle]

how do you live i would quick in phase 3 if they didnt exist

[dim flint]

They are soooo important!

[stray herald]

That's crazy

[supple rain]

you need to use those

[spark oracle]

lunatic behavior

[stray herald]

It's like having wireless materials

[blissful granite]

Idk what im doing i need help lmao

[supple rain]

research them now

[spark oracle]

its really simple

[stray herald]

Just research them and add one on top of every storage container for important materials

[spark oracle]

you can look up a video but basically you plug a conveyor into one like a storage container and it "infinitely" supplies you with them

[blissful granite]

okay so what if you move them

[spark oracle]

deconstruct it and move them

[stray herald]

You keep your storage

[supple rain]

(unrelated sorta, but) I recently started trying to learn how to do hoses with my pipes and I think I am very satisfied with how my learning is going, has anyone else tried doing hoses?

[dim flint]

Put one on top of an industrial storage container and vertical belt into it for access to the materials. Do this at the end of production for each material.

[blissful granite]

so the materials inside it dont dissappear?

[spark oracle]

you can watch a really quick video too but they're super easy to understnad

[supple rain]

do you know how the ender chests work in minecraft?

[spark oracle]

they only store 1 stack of materials

and they upload into a second screen in ur inventory

[blissful granite]

I see

[stray herald]

I agree the lift is cheeks but I didn't even think it could be worse than biofuel lol

[fluid sapphire]

its the burn time, its really bad imo

[spark oracle]

packaged biofuel burn time is incredible

[stray herald]

Up to 5 I think

[blissful granite]

yes so theyre like ender chests?

[dim flint]

You can upgrade for more stacks.

[spark oracle]

the actual depot 1 stack, but your personal depot invenotry can be more

[blissful granite]

except you can access from ur inventory

[spark oracle]

yes^

[supple rain]

the function like ender chests, yes

[stray herald]

Yes except you can have X stacks of ANY material
Basically at level 1 you can have 1 stack of anything, and you get another stack per level

[spark oracle]

ok chat i gtg see yall later

[stray herald]

👋

[spark oracle]

btw you need a shit ton of mercer spheres so get to that

[supple rain]

you can have one stack of everything

[blissful granite]

okay i have it upgraded to 200% and i have idk like 66 mercer rn

[fluid sapphire]

not one stack, 5

[supple rain]

at max level 5 yes

[dim flint]

Farming spheres is kinda fun once you have a good gun.

[supple rain]

but at level one you get one stack of everything

[fluid sapphire]

passive mode says hi

[blissful granite]

nvm i used a few i have 23 left lmao

[dim flint]

I like FPS tho

[supple rain]

yeah that's plenty, you only need one per uploader you build

[white dawn]

Yeah, I think idle machines still consume 0.1MW

[dim flint]

Lights should really use way less power.

[blissful granite]

sweet, yeah this will defintely help so I dont have to have a full inventory all the time XD and you can access the dimentional depot in ur inventory anywhere on the map?

[supple rain]

tyes

[blissful granite]

sweet

[dim flint]

That's the beauty.

[supple rain]

and if you buy the middle upgrade, you can upload from anywhere too

[dim flint]

Changes the game tbh.

[fluid sapphire]

sure, for me just after 300 hours i got tired of fighting, it stopped being fun, the loot wasnt worth it anymore, and every enemy is a pushover, only takes a long time to fight

[supple rain]

so you can remotely plop your slugs, spheres, shards, and sloops in it as well to clear out space

[dim flint]

Turboammo fixes that.

[fluid sapphire]

it cant fix me being tired of fighting

[blissful granite]

my life just got so much easier lmao

[supple rain]

yep

and, extra bonus
if you are trying to build a big concrete foundation for example, and you run out of concrete iyour inventory, but you have some in your depot, you can directly build with it (the build gun has access to the dimensional depot)

anything you deconstruct will still go into your normal inventory though

[blissful granite]

so what would yall recommend i do here on out since I have a train with resources and a bunch of smelters and what not all built around mk2 miners and mk 5 belts, ive been contemplating tearing everything down and rebuilding, but also thinking if i should just add more smelteries

[fluid sapphire]

just build more stuff elsewhere?

[supple rain]

I couldn't say, I'm still at early/midgame myself

[blissful granite]

sorry mk 4 belts, i jsut unlocked mk3 miner and mk 5 belt

my goal is to automate one of every item as efficiently as possible and if i unlock better stuff thats a ton of resources that could potentionally be used, not being used

[stray herald]

How do y'all organize trains? One train per factory? One per resource?
I have one train now going from red forest to rocky desert to oil islands west, it grabs batteries and electromagnetic rods and brings them to my supercomputer factory

[fluid sapphire]

the map is gigantic, you cant reasonably use everything anyway

[fluid sapphire]

one train per product type, amount of trains depends on factory (sometimes multiple for same type)

[dim flint]

Almost 400 power shards from one little area of farming slugs. I love that.

[fluid sapphire]

simplest for me

[stray herald]

So basically one train for plastic and rubber for example?

[stray herald]

If you have somersloop tech unlocked, you can double shards from slugs:)

[dim flint]

I sure did.

[fluid sapphire]

well, for those in particular, i have the source stations, one for each, and then one train per factory that needs to import

per product

[rustic hare]

depends on the stack size and route of the trains, I grouped one of my iron train with concrete to go to the main base because they just happen to be on the same path, and concrete had a giant stack size so it didn't really need a dedicated train, meanwhile a steel station just 1km away needs 2 train because 100 items stack size is tinyy and mk6 belts empty it out so fast

[dim flint]

Always sloop your slugs.

And meat

[fluid sapphire]

you can do some advanced stuff with trains for sure, i just personally like it simple

[stray herald]

I just learned this like two days ago after some 300 hours so every time someone mentions slugs I mention sloops 😭

[dim flint]

and DNA

[supple rain]

if you always sloop the maximum you can get is like 5300 shards or something

[dim flint]

Well then synthetics.

[supple rain]

daaamn

[supple rain]

right, but that's tier 9 stuff

[stray herald]

Was it a thing in update 8 tho?

Slooping to boost? Most my playtime was U8 this is my first post-launch world

[dim flint]

I mean, if you have 5300 shards and aren't in teir 9, you're insane.

[dim flint]

Doubles your gain from a single slug.

[rustic hare]

I don't think I even used more than 100 shards so far, the only thing I oc all of the time are harvesters

[stray herald]

Yes but did it exist in U8?

[dim flint]

I shard a lot of stuff... my power isn't ideal.

[dim flint]

idk, sry.

[rustic hare]

yknow what's good abt building a bigass factories without shards besides power saving?

[dim flint]

I would bet I'm around 500-600 shards.

[dim flint]

What?

[fluid sapphire]

big factories just look extra cool?

[rustic hare]

just shard them later when you need higher throughput

[dim flint]

Yea.

[stray herald]

Mine ain't cool at all LMAO
I usually have a ground floor, then one piece of wall going up to a second floor, etc

[dim flint]

I'm working on a factory now with no shards in the base design, though I'm not building in a lot of headroom to the belts.

[rustic hare]

instead of having to expand the floor plan, just make a giant one that isn't overclocked, then when you need more of the resource, just sloop/shard it, no need to rebuild/expand the structure

[fluid sapphire]

mine are all very similar looking open boxes with some glass on the edges eheheh, i am no architect

[dim flint]

I want this factory to be pretty low power and give base amounts of all the "basics" (non quantum) stuff.

[rustic hare]

I have one problem when it comes to architecture, is that I tend to think of machine placement in grids, so my factories always turn out to be rectangular/square and that doesn't leave any point of interest to design around lol

also I wish mk6 vertical belts were see-through

[upper gale]

I have sorta the same issue haha. But at least the machines are very organized this way

[fluid sapphire]

embrace the square

[dim flint]

I want to build a factory of nothing but triangles at some point.

Pentagons for manufacturers would be cool too.

[rustic hare]

yeah, I do the math, 4800m^3/min of fuel, that can do 1152 plants, then I start doing divisions and square root and shit just to come out with a 12x12x8 square block lol

[small notch]

At when in the game do you get artificial power shards

[rustic hare]

last phase

[small notch]

Oh

Back to collecting slugs ig

[upper gale]

Remember to sloop your slugs to get more power shards out of them

[small notch]

Wait that’s smart I haven’t been doing that

[upper gale]

I used to always forget

[small notch]

Gotta remember this

[fluid sapphire]

why place 60 smelters when i can place 200
#screenshots message

regarding trains, there are also 20 train stations in this factory#screenshots message

[rustic hare]

tf is that train setup lmao

[fluid sapphire]

7 stations to import bauxite, 7 for iron, 1 to import copper, 2 to export aluminum, 1 to export copper powder

[rustic hare]

pardon me but I have never seen so many stations in one place before

[dim flint]

Hmmm, I'm averaging about 800K p/min from the sink.

[fluid sapphire]

nor have i xd

[rustic hare]

this is one moment where you can go "sheeessh"

[fluid sapphire]

it took weeks to set it all up, if i include all the source stations, to import 4500 bauxite, 3850 iron, 3000 coal and 600 copper

[dim flint]

My friend I mistakenly let play on my map for a while built 9 10 stations all only connected to one side of the bidirectional tracks and just made an ungodly mess.

[dim flint]

#design-and-architecture message

[stray herald]

literally lmao

[rustic hare]

I bet that's massive overhead

[stray herald]

Also how do you have so much copper

Do you ship it form all over to here?

[fluid sapphire]

oh oops, i meant 3850 iron

but yes, i ship everything in

[stray herald]

Still lol

[rustic hare]

for iron I have 3 freight platform, 6 mk6 belts transferring 6680 iron/min

[fluid sapphire]

theres actually a bunch of iron nearby, i just built all the source stations before i decided the location of the actual factory and figured if i built them, i will use them

[stray herald]

But why do that instead of, say, 'Let's make computers here and ship them'

[rustic hare]

it depends quite alot, if the resources for that specific item are close enough, I'll make it on the spot and ship them

fe. the chain of iron, steel, concrete to make heavy frame is pretty closely tied, yet the resource nodes I want to take from are not close enough to eachother, so I train them to one station to make the heavy frame

[stray herald]

And if you have 6k Iron being produced, how do youdistribute it efficiently?

[rustic hare]

belt balancer under the station, so all freight platforms get the full 2x mk6 speed at all times, and I place the amount of carts as needed at that point, so if a factory uses 4k iron/min, 2 carts are used, I also stack multiple stations to allow the dynamic selection of what freight gets loaded

can be described as a dynamic indexing system for the station so I can quickly select which freight gets loaded

[stray herald]

Y'all got some big brains planning all that 😭

My head would start smoking

[rustic hare]

it was a gradual process, it didn't happen in one day lol

[fluid sapphire]

i have caveman systems fr

[stray herald]

😭

[rustic hare]

all that just to have compact stations with as little freight stations as needed

also, buffer before and after the freight stations + belt balancers really do wonders, it ensures your multi-line system gets used up evenly, so all freights get utilized

[fluid sapphire]

i struggle a bit with my platform balance where the amount transported exceeds belt capacity

most of my trains carry less than that of one belt, so no need to balance

but my 1800 coal station is a pain in the ass

[rustic hare]

you got mk6 yet?

[fluid sapphire]

built a kind of pseudo balacing system, so far so good, but only time will tell

nope

that might be a while

[rustic hare]

before I got the mk6 belt, I did a 4 to 4 balancer with mk5 belts for my 1800 coal station

[fluid sapphire]

trouble is it feeds 15 machines

awkward number

[rustic hare]

make a 16 splitter and feed one back to the input to achieve a 15 splitter, you can also do a 15 split by pairing a 5 split with 3 split

[fluid sapphire]

all my stations have 8 platforms: i made like 5 main lines, and i split the 3 other evenly between the first 5, then divided the 5 into 3 each

i tried something like that, but it didnt pan out

[stray herald]

I literally made an entire train track to deliver 12 electromagnetic rods a minute

😭

[deep pier]

can there be a crashsite without the hard drive thing?

[fluid sapphire]

must have already collected it

[fluid sapphire]

maybe you can reuse it for other stuff later?

thats the greatest strength of rail i think

[clear apex]

can rail truly ever beat making really long conveyor belts?

[stray herald]

I mean hopefully xD I built a lot of rails
https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1413628560052191254

[main topaz]

You can find crash sites where the hard drive container is separate from the rest of the crash site. If you haven't already collected it, you'll want to look around.

[dim dock]

depends on whether you love your pc

[crisp edge]

i was just about to start packaging oil from a distant resource well to transport by train to a factory across the map, but then i remembered fluid cars exist. haven't used them though, so i just want to know if building a fluid platform comes with a fluid car or if i have to unlock fluid cars and i don't have them yet

[fluid sapphire]

@rustic hare oh, thats a lot smaller than i thought it would be. i should look into balancers more. generally i try to avoid them, but for trains they do seem quite handy

[clear apex]

glad i run it through geforce 😂

[rustic hare]

you'd need to add one or more lines to your conveyor bundle if you want to add a resource to the line instead of just slapping on a station to the conveniently pre-existing railway you built for something else

[rustic hare]

use the normal freight car, it'll be loaded with a fluid tank by the station

[rustic hare]

#screenshots message
the red blob is the 2 horizontal 3 to 3 balancers, it's stacked on top of eachother so it can process a 3x2 bundle of belts, then I use 3 more vertical 2 to 2 balancers at the end

[hybrid sierra]

fluids are hard

[static bramble]

yes

[hybrid sierra]

i cant get my turbofuel setup stable. its been fluxuating between 18 and 10k(goal is 20k) im making more than enough and i have a buffer at the start

[cosmic junco]

don't have a buffer

[hybrid sierra]

wn?

the buffer is in between the refineries and fuel gens

[cosmic junco]

it serves no purpose in most cases and just adds to the problems

[hybrid sierra]

ok

[cosmic junco]

btw, don't try to target 600/min in a pipe

it can be very difficult to hit

[silk rose]

elevator entrance miss aligned? i get stuck every time

[hybrid sierra]

im not its 300 a minute in a 600