satisfactory

[sterile blade]

They'll spit out items faster, but overall the time to fill all machines goes up

[silk ocean]

lower mk1? xD

[mortal ginkgo]

you are missing the point that all machines dont fill up yet they start to work 100% of the time faster

[unkempt blade]

mk0, human power 😄

[mortal ginkgo]

manual feeding kek

[split ravine]

simply split off the mk1 belt and feed it back into the input belt after the splitter for the mk1

[silk ocean]

lol

[hard ivy]

they don't

[split ravine]

it’s so easy smh

[lost cloak]

is it possible to merge worlds together? So like, ive played several playthoughs in different locations. Can i put all those builds into one save?

Ideally on a new save, with all slugs and drives still in the world, and a world where nothing is pre-researched.

i wanna "start over", with eveything ive ever built in one world

[sullen gull]

Probably with some SCIM foo

[sterile blade]

I mean... Placing a storage container hooked up to a merger to "overfeed" a manifold requires one to load items in just one thing instead of many (albeit it "just" reduces the warmup rathe than reducing it to 0), so I find it funny that such a solution is so rarely adopted xD

[unkempt blade]

yeah just depends how fast I want it to go - if it's like my early coal setups I'll just slam it in a few of them by hand but not if it's like dozens of machines later with fast belts

[silk ocean]

mk0.5 - lizard doggo army?

[unkempt blade]

I still want a phase 1 doggo sled vehicle

[silk ocean]

Weather system needs to add snow 😉

[sullen gull]

Ficsmas is coming soon 😏 ... There are "snow creators"

[silk ocean]

Oh nice xD

[modest solstice]

just decided to build a ladder to world max height because why not

[silk ocean]

I don't think I've ever actually played during Ficsmas

[sullen gull]

That's one way to get the achievement 🙂

[leaden turret]

there's a mod for that

[split ravine]

wish ladders weren’t the only decent form of purely vertical movement

[sterile blade]

For a manifold to be fully warmed up (ie: all machines running at 100%), one needs to fill all the machines except 2. Whipe feeding as few items as possible does help in giving more items to all machines from the start, it also leads to a longer period of machines not getting as much as needed.

I find it helpful to think about it in terms of items: you need to put X stacks inside the machines to have the manifold warm up completely; but whenever a machine runs, it takes away from those X stacks, adding extra time as you replenish those items too; using max belt speeds (or even better, smart splitters + maxed belts) leads to feeding as few machines as possible during the warmup, thus consuming less items, thus reducing the total time to deliver enough items to fill the manifold

[silk ocean]

I don't mind waiting a few months xD

[unkempt blade]

turning on ficsmas is one of the only things I've used SCIM to edit too

[modest solstice]

Hypertube cannons

[leaden turret]

🪂
🏃‍♀️

[modest solstice]

jump pads are also surprisingly good at vertical transport if you place them on a wall

[sterile blade]

The big exception of course are cases where the machines need exactly as much as a belt can provide. That's where "balancefolds" enter the chat

[unkempt blade]

and you can drive factory carts over them to do some awesome flips!

[split ravine]

are they any more consistent than pads placed flat

[sterile blade]

Until you get good enough Fuel 😉
(Tbf, hypertubes and ziplines are both faster)

[modest solstice]

seem to be, for whatever reason. only if they're perfectly vertical

[leaden turret]

@split ravine reminder: you can go uphill with parachutes

[mortal ginkgo]

I think you are confused about how mk6 splitter with mk1 belts on side works. Main belt is still providing 1080 to next line while other each belt gets 60.

The aim is reverse feeding, focusing on the backside machines while the other machines get enough to work 100% as soon as possible.

This way the ones behind will be filled up to full but everything will be working 100%.

[split ravine]

it’s more like a pillar that I want to get up

[leaden turret]

build stairs around pillar, make self dizzy while wearing parachute

[modest solstice]

or place a freeform beam in a small gap, the angle does NOT have to be very high

the elevators DO exist but i agree they're kinda slow

[sterile blade]

Whichever side of the manifold you wish to fill first doesn't really matter. The point is providing enough items to fill the machines: the more machines are running before the manifold is warned up, the more items the manifold will have to provide to fill them (1 stack per machine plus all items consumed) - > if you can feed one machine at a time at max speed you minimize the items consumed and the time needed to provide the items

[mortal ginkgo]

Give what I said a try and you will understand how fast a manifold starts with the way I do. 👍

[hard ivy]

the fastest filling manifold uses smart splitters to fill one machines at a time with the fastest available belts

[mortal ginkgo]

Test it on something simple like 12 smelter setup.

[hard ivy]

I did the math and you're literally wrong

[silk ocean]

Sushimanifold

[mortal ginkgo]

BROTHERMAN

[sterile blade]

I have done that and happened to discuss that scenario several times before ^^

[mortal ginkgo]

Madness. 😔

[hard ivy]

unless each machine consumes exactly as many items as the belt supplies

[sterile blade]

AKA bestestfolds

[unkempt blade]

a cartifold is faster but you need to use one truck stop per machine to see the gains

[sterile blade]

Balancefolds FTW

[mortal ginkgo]

Just joked with madness statement. I am wrong I guess. I ain't gonna die on the hill.

I rather die on ADA romance option demands of mine.

🙂‍↕️

[feral geyser]

Eyo??

[mortal ginkgo]

Yes. We need it.

[hard ivy]

with lower tier belts, you get more output immediately, but reaching 100% output takes longer

[feral geyser]

Petition approved

[modest solstice]

I'd sign that

[mortal ginkgo]

We don't need to gather signatures on an obviously lacking mechanic that is needed.

Democracy is not needed.

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737>

1. reveal whether lizard doggo has butthole or cloaca
2. implement ADAting

pick one 😛

[feral geyser]

It's obviously a cloaca since it's a lizard

[mortal ginkgo]

Wrong choice as it is.

[sterile blade]

Why is this about "dying on a hill"?
We can just find out, it's very factual and easy to verify info
(I think the "least items consumed - > least time to provide items" point makes the whole thing pretty clear, if understood)

[stray herald]

Should I make a supercomputer factory or a radio control unit factory first?

Prolly supercomputer since I need it for Mk3 miners?

[feral geyser]

RCU factory, then OC super

[sullen gull]

Yes, because we need more people in the world to succumb to the wiles of AI romance 😏

[stray herald]

Oh I see

[feral geyser]

😏

[stray herald]

I do not have OC supers, I will try to find that alt

[sullen gull]

It was a bit strange one day chilling at the bar at a Buffalo Wild Wings and the guy next to me showing me his texts with his AI girlfriend ...

[leaden turret]

@mortal ginkgo dare you to transpose the lyrics of Lady Gaga's Bad Romance to ADA Romance & make that the body of a qa site post 😛

[stray herald]

Any good locations for the RCU factory since it needs a lot of different resources?

[feral geyser]

(People will tell you its the worst recipe, but don't let them marsh your mallow)

[hard ivy]

I actually came up with a new cursed way to build a "balancer" entirely out of manifolds. It won't work in all situations where an actual balancer would, but could work as a balancer inside a factory. and it'd be way more compact

[feral geyser]

I did mine in Blue Crater

[sterile blade]

TFW when you say "pick one" and people pick 2 instead

[hard ivy]

it's expensive with little benefit, so yeah, it's the worst

[uncut trail]

is supercomputer only for assembly director system?

[feral geyser]

See, told ya

[unkempt blade]

Can you figure out an RNG splitter next? I want to bring some excitement into my factory

[mortal ginkgo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrUrsVUKg64

Can you give this 4 min video a watch and tell me where he is wrong? Since his manifold gets to 100% way faster than the basic manifold we all use.

[sterile blade]

I don't know what sort of contraption you're hinting at

[sullen gull]

!wikisearch super+computer

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=super+computer

[leaden turret]

@mortal ginkgo propose it as a FICSIT seasonal event for valentine's day, crafting gifts for your wAIfu 😛

[mortal ginkgo]

Not before we get a pretty ADA woman model.

[hard ivy]

I should build onoe. But I haven't needed a balancer since I came up with it

[mortal ginkgo]

And um... a male model for me.

[uncut trail]

fuck me thats a lot of recipes and im only making 4in a min

[mortal ginkgo]

🙂‍↕️

[silk ocean]

It looks like a barrel of oil in a hollow frame XD

[mortal ginkgo]

I also love how computer looks really barebones, the regular computer.

[silk ocean]

Yea xD

[leaden turret]

is a keg in a shipping frame so it doesn't roll and spill.

swedish beer.

[uncut trail]

is 15/a min high speed connector and ai limiter avrg?

[sterile blade]

I made it to 2:28
One is a manifold, the other is a "balancefold" (ie: the machines need exactly as much as the side-belts can provide)

[mortal ginkgo]

So that one has a name too?

Oh dear Lord. This is pure madness.

[sterile blade]

I call them that 🤷‍♂️ 😆

[mortal ginkgo]

BROTHERMAN

[feral geyser]

This is still just a manifold

[mortal ginkgo]

Thats the point. It is just a faster startup manifold

[feral geyser]

It works better because it's using appropriate belt speeds

[sterile blade]

But yeah, that's what I was referring to earlier #satisfactory message

[feral geyser]

How is that a balancer?

[sterile blade]

Only if the machines need exactly as much as the side-belts (the ones going from splitters into machines) can provide. So 60/120/270...

[rigid mist]

we need an ingame counter for amount of times coffee sipped

[mortal ginkgo]

Yes, that is the point. That is the point I have been making for 84 years!!!!1111oneoneelevenbrotherman

[leaden turret]

bean counter

[rigid mist]

lol what

[feral geyser]

Coffee beans

[feral geyser]

No?

[mortal ginkgo]

I want defense turrets against Beans. I am tired of them going around inspecting my factory and getting stuck in hellish places.

[hard ivy]

yes?

[rigid mist]

amount of times bean struck with car

[small notch]

how do i turn at a hypertube junction?

[rigid mist]

press E

[sullen gull]

E iirc

[leaden turret]

The game will not feature base defense.[№ 1][№ 2][№ 3][№ 4][№ 5][№ 6][№ 7][№ 8][№ 9][№ 10][№ 11][№ 12][№ 13][№ 14][№ 15][№ 16][№ 17][№ 18][№ 19][№ 20][№ 21][№ 22][№ 23][№ 24][№ 25][№ 26][№ 27][№ 28][№ 29][№ 30][№ 31][№ 32][№ 33][№ 34][№ 35][№ 36][№ 37][№ 38][№ 39][№ 40][№ 41][№ 42][№ 43][№ 44][№ 45][№ 46][№ 47][№ 48][№ 49][№ 50][№ 51][№ 52][№ 53][№ 54][№ 55][№ 56][№ 57][№ 58][№ 59][№ 60][№ 61][№ 62][№ 63][№ 64][№ 65][№ 66][№ 67][№ 68][№ 69][№ 70]
https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Satisfactory#Base_Defense

[small notch]

i tried that it wouldnt work but ill try again

[feral geyser]

So if a machine need 90/min of a material, what happens?

[hard ivy]

and you use mk2 belts, the manifold will fill slower than if you used higher speed belts

[feral geyser]

Yes, very slightly slower

Until the earlier machines fill, then it won't matter

[sterile blade]

You said that using the slowest belt possible (as long as it's enough to feed the machine) leads to faster manifold fill-up. That's true only when machines' inputs match belt speeds, for all other scenario it leads to longer fill time

[split ravine]

three mark one belts because the ratios in this game are awful

[uncut trail]

guys i have hmf factory which only makes 4 and im thinking of remaking it to make around 15-20/a min is that a good number in phase 4

[calm dawn]

wait... did they remove pure uranium nodes from the game??

[hard ivy]

there never were any iirc

[mortal ginkgo]

"inputs match belt speeds" = "slowest belt possible (as long as it's enough to feed the machine)"

I don't know what else I can say other than you TRULY tried to think those are two different things I say.

[calm dawn]

oh really? okay then

[split ravine]

you two seem to be having two different conversations

[feral geyser]

Yes, if a machine needs more than 60/min, it obviously won't work with a mk1 belt, so that's not the "slowest belt possible"

[split ravine]

good luck with that

[mortal ginkgo]

Madness. 😔

[sterile blade]

The longer you take to fill the machines' inventories, the more items the manifold needs to supply before they're all full as each machine keeps consuming items.
So, to minimize the time between "machine is off" and "machine is on and full" you can either hand-feed them all or feed as few machines as fast as possible (ie: using fast side-belts)

[mortal ginkgo]

"Using lower versions of belt that goes into machines can also make manifold go 100% faster, as long as the belt is enough to sustain the machine"

I meant with sustain as 100% efficiency.

I don't know what is wrong there...

[rough mountain]

clippy❤️

[feral geyser]

That's just plain wrong.

[hard ivy]

it's fully correct lmao

[silk ocean]

split the mk1 to and return half back to the manifold if need 30/min xD

[mortal ginkgo]

also whats up with clippy icons I see around these days? what is the current thing we are protesting this time?

[mortal ginkgo]

Get out. (then come back, after you think about your actions)

[leaden turret]

data privacy, I think

[uncut trail]

[rough mountain]

consumer rights + hating on subscriptions "haha pay 100 bucks a month to unlock 60mph on ur car"

[mortal ginkgo]

as if any data was private to begin with. heh, youngster prioneers these days

BACK IN MAH DAYS

[split ravine]

“Ok boomer”

[uncut trail]

!wikisearch heavy+modular+frame

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=heavy+modular+frame

[uncut trail]

goodboy

[mortal ginkgo]

It is NOT a good boy since regular recipe needs so much screws and my mom

I protest.

[uncut trail]

wtf 😭

[sterile blade]

I don't quite see how they're the same statement... Machines inputs rarely match belt speeds, unless one clocks them accordingly (and this gets complicated with machines having multiple inputs)... A "generic" manifold doesn't have machine inputs like that

[sullen gull]

If you already happen to be on the wiki site, there is no need to use the search here.

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean.... ok I guess.

[uncut trail]

!wikisearch fused+modular+frame

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=fused+modular+frame

[rough mountain]

owned

[uncut trail]

nah i always turn off my browser for ram usage

[rough mountain]

i have a question gang

[mortal ginkgo]

just buy more rams lol

[sterile blade]

Where?

[sharp rune]

I think I may have found a bug when playing with controller? When I used my jetpack and landed my controller wouldn't stop vibrating. I dunno if there's something I'm missing so I figured I'd ask here

[scenic mirage]

ahh jumpscared right as i got off

[calm dawn]

nah, just download more ram

[rough mountain]

its a secret feature to pleasure the consumers ofcourse

[uncut trail]

im raw doggin this game with my pc

[mortal ginkgo]

how about subscription based ram?

[sharp rune]

Ah I see.

[calm dawn]

nah, its pricey

[split ravine]

this game is not finished in the slightest, come back after v35.6

[sharp rune]

I'm mainly asking to see if it's just a bug I'm experiencing or if it's known

[mortal ginkgo]

be less broke bro

[leaden turret]

amazon subscript delivery for lamb chops 🥁

[uncut trail]

is 10 fused modular frames in a minute good number to start automating right now

[calm dawn]

okay 👍

[rough mountain]

gang idk if this is permitted to ask, but is anyone NOT in a steam family and would like to join so me n my friend can play satisfactory together cuz we have 1 copy. we have lots of great other games ofc

[fossil ice]

Hello there totally awesome user! You can checkout #1201555265942724758 and check the pins on how to find folks to play with. <3

[feral geyser]

You should only give machines the slowest belt possible to feed them, and that will make your manifold fill fastest. Using faster side belts does not make it fill faster.

[uncut trail]

me n my homies have steam library with ton of games and only one satisfactory copy

[feral geyser]

So, kinda the whole thing.

[mortal ginkgo]

I am still EXTREMELY pissed off about Modular Frame taking 2/min to make.

Listen, I get other versions are advanced but the basic MODULAR FRAME is simply FEW BARS AND SCREWS.

Come on now.

Like, come on.

[sterile blade]

If you're doubtful, I invite you to take some of your own advice and test:

1. manifold giving 300/min to 10 Smelters each at 30/min
2. manifold giving 600/min to 10 Smelters each at 60/min

[uncut trail]

🏴‍☠️ 🦜

is 10 fused modular frames in a minute good number to start automating right now
????????????????

[mortal ginkgo]

I am not doubting on anything.. I like my manifold with enough belt speed on entry points.

[unkempt blade]

did someone say screws? /flips table over

[fluid sapphire]

10 is a lot

[mortal ginkgo]

you could say that yeah

[mortal ginkgo]

Cast Screws is a viable recipe btw.

(Watch some folk getting auto summoned to say this is wrong).

[uncut trail]

im about to set up brand new hmf factory so might as well go high

[sullen gull]

So, 20/min is a bit much? 😏

well ... 19.64/min rather .... 🤣

[feral geyser]

I have over 4800 screws/min in my NP factory cuz fuck all the screw haters

[uncut trail]

why is everyone yapping about lot of screw usage ive never fell short on screws for hmf

js get good

[sullen gull]

That's easy with Alu beam > screws

[mortal ginkgo]

wow brotherman

[calm dawn]

"alternate: bolted frame" is a goated recipe, especially when you're combining it with somersloops
...and especially if you have the other alternate recipe for screws, "alternate: steel screws"

[feral geyser]

Bolted Plates, Bolted Frames, the works

[fluid sapphire]

i went with 18 and i think its probably more than i will end up needing

[uncut trail]

and i use base recipe

[feral geyser]

Exactly the method

[modest solstice]

wait screws? the recipe is rods and reinforced plates

[sterile blade]

To warm up a manifold completely, you need to fill all machines (except 2, I won't mention this further for brevity) with input items.
Are we on the same page here?

[sullen gull]

There are alt recipies.

[mortal ginkgo]

plates asks for screws so

[feral geyser]

No, they do not need to fill completely

[mortal ginkgo]

and yes there is an alt recipe that asks for screws instead

[uncut trail]

ada lucky she dont got physical body 🙏🏻 🥀 😭💀

[modest solstice]

I can't tell what you're complaining about lol

[mortal ginkgo]

also there is NO REINFORCED PLATED in MODULAR FRAME'S picture!

devs are not deving

[feral geyser]

They simply all need to have the amount of material needed to run.

[rough mountain]

SOMEONE BLESS ME WITH A SATIS COPY BY JOINING MY STEAM FAMILY 🙏🙏🙏

[mortal ginkgo]

it is called "joking around brotherman"

[uncut trail]

js pirate it

[rough mountain]

for multiplayer?

[mortal ginkgo]

Everyone knows all recipes are awesome and Fisconium Fuel Rods are what triggers 95% of playerbase. I kek at them playerbases.

[leaden turret]

that's effectively begging for steam keys with extra steps

[uncut trail]

well then pay idk about multiplayer cracks might be out there

[rough mountain]

not really i mean u also get games from my family

[scenic mirage]

or just pay for it? like get a job n work a few hours 😂

[split ravine]

“devs are not deving” dawg i already knew that after 5 hours, plus that’s the design team

[rough mountain]

IM IN SCHOOL

[modest solstice]

awh cmon its rods wrapped in plates
the colors and textures match

[uncut trail]

you don gotta attack me ive bought it

[mortal ginkgo]

Madness 😭

[uncut trail]

me2

[sullen gull]

🤷‍♂️ I mowed lawns, did cleanup, and other odd jobs for money when I was in school .

[mortal ginkgo]

You were able to afford Cyberpunk 2077. I am sure you can afford Satisfactory kek

[scenic mirage]

then dont play this game gonna be spending all your time optimizing your aluminium factory instead of your chem homework

[sterile blade]

Yes. And, unless you input more items in the manifold than the machines need, they won't do that until they are all full, as you mentioned earlier, right?
#satisfactory message

[rough mountain]

man i have the money im js askin mate, its a win win sitch

[uncut trail]

how much does this game cost in yall regions?

[mortal ginkgo]

for me it was 20

[modest solstice]

(To be fair, that's completely impossible for a lot of us that live either in the middle of nowhere or in apartment buildings - not everyone lives in the suburbs or whatever)

[rough mountain]

55 usd

[uncut trail]

ive paid 13usd during sale

[uncut trail]

wtf

[scenic mirage]

i bought it during prerelease

[rough mountain]

i live in switzerland, its 45 swiss francs here, which is 55 usd

[sullen gull]

Lol, I feel personally attacked as I sit here and try to whip together a quick compacted coal facility before I go touch (i.e. cut) my own grass and move some dirt around 🤣

[uncut trail]

makes sense switzerland has highest price for all games

[rough mountain]

ye o well

[uncut trail]

im in Georgia which uses smth like CIS USD for steam and lot of games are cheap

[modest solstice]

https://isthereanydeal.com/game/satisfactory/info/ game is on 30% off on humble rn btw

[uncut trail]

but i gotta pay 2.7x amount

[scenic mirage]

$17.99 USD

[mortal ginkgo]

Why can't we gift Satisfactory to people with in game coupons?

Are devs even real? Why is this not implemented yet?

[leaden turret]

<@&387163995947270144> idiot pirate admitting to and encouraging pirating

[modest solstice]

I recommend against talking about piracy in the game's server

[fluid sapphire]

you get one copy per 10,000,000 coupons

[scenic mirage]

imagine spending that much time and refusing to support the devs

[sullen gull]

I just want to be able to buy games with my Steam points damnit ..

[uncut trail]

why you so angry

[keen jacinth]

Hey yall

[mortal ginkgo]

Convert in game coupons to steam points I say!

[scenic mirage]

bc piracy aint cool

[rough mountain]

is it like cd keys and does it use stolen ones

[rough mountain]

piracy is goated

[fluid sapphire]

no that site is legit

[feral geyser]

As long as the total input to the manifold is equal to or greater than the total consumption of the machines on it, and each machine is only taking the amount it needs (or the smallest amount rounded up to belt speed), then yes, it will "fill" (have all machines operating, not necessarily full inventory) faster.

[modest solstice]

isthereanydeal does steam keys, they're all reputable websites

[uncut trail]

being angry and judging aint cool too

[rough mountain]

alright cool

[sterile blade]

It's a legit site, no gray market shenanigans

[uncut trail]

everyone walks imperfect

[rough mountain]

cool i trust clippy

[mortal ginkgo]

I walk perfectly.

[leaden turret]

the only legal places to get satisfactory are:

• steam
• epic
• humble bundle (which you redeem for a steam or epic key)

[scenic mirage]

womp womp go cry, dont break the law and just support the devs 😂

[modest solstice]

not necesarily, there are other key resellers

wait no nvm not for satis specifically

[uncut trail]

1.it aint law in my COUNTRY, 2nd of all ive paid for the game

[feral geyser]

But also, I think you guys are manifolding wrong and I never build manifolds like this, excepy for small (4-8) batches of manufacturers or blenders.

[uncut trail]

hope this helps

guys should i buy fused modular frames with tickets to make mk3 miners BEFORE automating fused modular frames to make my life little easier

[modest solstice]

Piracy is immoral, but there are people that have it as their only option; culture should not only be for the rich. If you're not able to pay for the game, support the devs in other ways, like publicity, and buy the game as soon as you can. This goes for most content, including (especially) abandonware

[silk ocean]

I purchased on steam just over 5 years ago

[modest solstice]

and don't try to justify it... there's no point

[sullen gull]

If you have the coupons,. and aren'ty gunning for the Nut ... go for it imo

[uncut trail]

aight

[unkempt blade]

I'd just set up a blender next to a nitrogen vein and feed some ingredients into storage containers

[uncut trail]

i alr have some amoutn from crash sites

[unkempt blade]

you don't need too many/need them very fast

[sullen gull]

Main thing to remember ... it's YOUR game. If a method works for you, then so be it. Don't let others dictate how you should play YOUR game.

[uncut trail]

i agree but wont hurt to ask for advice

[feral geyser]

But also, do it the right way or you will be disowned.

(Teasing)

[modest solstice]

You can always just put a single manufacturer and some storage bins down tbh

[mortal ginkgo]

Some ways are simply wrong tho.

[silk ocean]

Ficsit says you can play however you like as long as you play the Ficsit way xD

[sullen gull]

Again, if it "works" for them, why judge?

[unkempt blade]

yeah, like not using enough factory carts

[mortal ginkgo]

It isn't to judge, but it is still wrong.

[sullen gull]

Have any examples?

[uncut trail]

for me its like if it works dont touch it

[modest solstice]

You can play however you like as long as it's maximally efficient :p

[sterile blade]

You're putting together 3 different scenarios:

1. Providing the manifold with more than needed (not considered in this convo, we just assumed manifold-input = machine-needs)
2. Machine inputs matching belt speeds
3. Machine inputs not machine belt speeds
   The third is a good rapresantation of the average manifold, where you can not care about each machine's input so king as the total matches what is provided by the manifold and that's where using "slow" belts hurts the total fill time. The only time slow belts helps reducing fill time is in case (2), as mentioned earlier, and 1

[mortal ginkgo]

The way I play is always correct and others are always wrong.

HAH GOT'EM BROTHERMAN KEK

...

Fine I am leaving.

[hidden sparrow]

discord drama 🍿

[uncut trail]

as ive always regreted when i broke this rule

[mortal ginkgo]

This guy is 100% wrong though. Using carts like the madman he is.

[uncut trail]

is it in the season or why is it like that

[scenic mirage]

if youre upset bc i told you to go cry for pirating a video game you got more important things to worry ab

[sullen gull]

Envy is unbecomming mate 😏

[mortal ginkgo]

... I think he is just being cute...

[hidden sparrow]

real peoples just use the player's inventory to move items manually from bins to other bins

[feral geyser]

I'm gonna be honest, I really don't care anymore cuz I don't manifold like this. You guys can keep your problems and I'll keep my layered tree manifolds.

[modest solstice]

That's strange. Most pioneers had coal power fully automated by this point. Adjusting pioneer cooperation metrics...

[mortal ginkgo]

Real 100% Pure Alpha Males* you mean and I agree.,

[uncut trail]

same

[scenic mirage]

just pay for the game bro

[uncut trail]

ive pirates shit ton of games but not satisfactory

20-10$ wont hurt but 60$+ will

[silk ocean]

Satisfactory is a very fair price

[mortal ginkgo]

I only pirated when I was a kid because there were no sellers for games in my country... Yes it was really bad when I was a kid and I am feeling old. Thank you guys.

[uncut trail]

when i was kid i was buyng pc disks 😭

[scenic mirage]

you cant pay 60 bucks for a game that can take up hundreds of hours? kinda L tbh

[red sun]

piracy is bad unless it's some mega corp like boobysoft

[mortal ginkgo]

Pft, youngster. I was buying Amiga discs.

[hidden sparrow]

the ethicality of pirating a game depends on their creators, the satisfactory dev team are good peoples, not money grabbers here to make a quick buck. Vote with your money, support good devs

[uncut trail]

wtf is amiga

[sullen gull]

OK, I need to quit stalling and get my ass out to do some real "work" Then to Mass for work next week 😭

[mortal ginkgo]

See, a youngster in his natural habitat that doesn't know. I kek.

[modest solstice]

culture should not only be for those with money, especially if they're not old enough to get a job or if your country has unreasonably high prices

[small notch]

#screenshots anyway to get rid of these towers

[silk ocean]

It's not even 60 bucks? It's £33.50 atm in the UK

[uncut trail]

mb granny

[unkempt blade]

it's a computer that's probably older than you are

[uncut trail]

ik? your point

[mortal ginkgo]

I disagree. Pirating such a company's game is still bad because all of them are waste of time so you are still in negative kek.

[silk ocean]

Just a very reasonable price for the number of hours

[red sun]

to be fair that's 60 canadian

[red sun]

touche

[latent prawn]

you haven't lived unless you've loaded a game from a cassette tape

[mortal ginkgo]

we are very oldge moonchild Q_Q

[red sun]

i'd pirate the new borderlands

that's about it

[grizzled cedar]

Damn I just paused the game 3h ago, now wanted to hop back on with a friend and suddenly both on experimental and stable I only have Timeouts while creating the sessions.

[red sun]

take two can ligma balls

[uncut trail]

lesgoo baby i can build 8 mk3 miners

[mortal ginkgo]

it is ok, you are not really harming the company. Though I humbly ask you to not state it openly because there are some who would pirate even if they can afford it etc.

[uncut trail]

crazy typo

[modest solstice]

the fart rocks? nobelisk will blow them up

[sullen gull]

[red sun]

i got satis for 17 gbp a while back and i feel like i scammed coffee stain for that

[modest solstice]

you can also unlock a gas mask to negate their effects

[small notch]

bro i cant get them yet 😭

[sterile blade]

Always a pleasure to invest time in a productive conversation
(Note: nobody was trying to tell anyone how to play; you're obviously free to do whatever you like)

[red sun]

(legitimately, this was a steam sale back in early access)

[silk ocean]

Or make a gas mask and filters and you don't have to worry about them so much

[mortal ginkgo]

Real Alpha Male Pioneers don't need gas mask. Gas Producing plants actually need a mask due to their overwhelming alphaness.

[small notch]

how do i do that

[uncut trail]

howm uch is gbp

[feral geyser]

You can sometime find steel pipes and stuff to unlock them around wrecks sometimes

[modest solstice]

im pretty sure it was free on epic for a bit a while ago

[red sun]

1 gbp is about 1.35 usd

[scenic mirage]

if you're too young to get a job maybe you should be out playing with friends, not sitting in front of a computer for hours and hours on end, day after day. its not good for human development.

devs set prices too, and video games are not a right 🤷‍♂️

[unkempt blade]

yeah you just need to sprint on through and hork down berries the entire time

[uncut trail]

i thing im the real thief for buying this game for 13usd on sale

[mortal ginkgo]

Actually this works for radiation pretty well too.

[latent prawn]

tbh, the gas mask is kind of optional. you can just make some inhalers and get through every spot except for the swamp

[feral geyser]

Non-existant, we are all women.

[red sun]

i'd have gotten the game much earlier if i had the hardware to run it at the time

[mortal ginkgo]

I find it funny that radiation is less dangerous than poison.

[carmine aspen]

youre no where near the stage to get that stuff rn gas mask is late early to early mid tier equipment

[unkempt blade]

yeah unless you're trying to build IN the gas/radiation or something it doesn't do all that much damage

[uncut trail]

ive bought it 1.5m ago

[small notch]

thought so

[sullen gull]

Arguably, gas mask and filters are much 'easier' to create than inhalers.

[mortal ginkgo]

yeah but I was surprised to find that radiation is not dangerous than poison. poison ticks WAY harder

[scenic mirage]

if you were old enough to work youd know you dont work 24/7. i work full time (37 hours a week) and i get guaranteed time off, i only work 3-4 days a week sometimes

[feral geyser]

You can find the stuff for inhalers laying around without needing to craft anything else.

[latent prawn]

ehh, kinda. protien & nuts are stupidly easy to find

[limpid cairn]

for some reason it has cheap electronics tho

[modest solstice]

That's kind of a flawed take. There are so many places nowadays where kids are trapped; there's no space for them any more, and so they're forced to stay inside. Culture is important too, and if they enjoy it and can keep balance there's nothing wrong with it. The concrete jungles of today's cities are hostile places to grow up.

[mortal ginkgo]

BACK IN MAH DAYS we had to pay CSS to put foundations!

🧓

[limpid cairn]

also if you work in switzerland you automatically make 10k a month for some reason

[silk ocean]

Probably true in RL also

[sullen gull]

Involves much more time overall imo.

[modest solstice]

can't, even

[mortal ginkgo]

Well irl you would have long lasting effects. In this game its just "lol ok bro"

[limpid cairn]

back in my days i was outside for 16h a day...

[silk ocean]

lol yep

[manic arrow]

how do you make your walls and foundations look like concrete

i keep seeing

[feral geyser]

I mean, true, plus you can actually automate filters (why are inhalers not automateable in vanilla, fr?)

[sullen gull]

Purchase the different options with coupons

[red sun]

get the material in the awesome shop, apply it with the customiser (X)

[feral geyser]

Awesome shop, customizer

[modest solstice]

I mean, you won't be building in the gas- you produce radiation, so it can't be super intense, or it'd make building nuclear a nightmare

[carmine aspen]

i can tell you you know that the gas mask requires tier 3 stuff

[sterile blade]

While I understand the sentiment, nobody is forcing your hand to the download button. Wether you do it or not is your choice to make (eg: you could save up for it, or have it gifted by someone who understood how much it means to you after you spoke with them...)

[modest solstice]

gas mask requires steel pipes but you can get those from crash sites

[mortal ginkgo]

Did you guys know that Charcoal and Biocoal Recipe allows you to make poison mask filter out of forest stuff as long as you got Iron Plates?

Cool stuff.

[carmine aspen]

i was trying to be spoiler free

[mortal ginkgo]

Your game is COMPLETELY ruined. 😭

[sterile blade]

Leave the server.
The spoiler tag is used more for jokes than actual spoilers

[feral geyser]

Finally, a use for charcoal and biocoal.

[mortal ginkgo]

biocoal too yeah let me add it

[feral geyser]

Listen. I just want lawn foundations...

[true mulch]

game progression isn't considered a spoiler here, only the actual narrative ( #story-spoilers )

[mortal ginkgo]

Gas Mask is pretty early in MaM too so.. 😛

[feral geyser]

Customizer, cost a bit of biomass, ez pz

[mortal ginkgo]

and Coal recipes are unlocked at phase 2.. so...

[feral geyser]

Let us put vines on walls too

[carmine aspen]

i just didnt want to taint the new player experience for the guy

[mortal ginkgo]

My brother, there are worse ways to taint his experience than a recipe that he will never ever gonna need to use.

This game does not have Elden Ring deep lore.

He will also come to hate those recipes as they hold space anyways kek

[feral geyser]

shallow-deep

[mortal ginkgo]

I also hate the fact that lore isn't that deep etc because there is good potential

Daily Reminder: We still lacking half foundation ramps and we are NOT protesting enough.

[sterile blade]

Sorry for my message, I though you were complaining about receiving spoilers yourself ^^

[placid remnant]

I love watching LetsGameItOut play

[mortal ginkgo]

Guy is pure madness.

[clever merlin]

i regret doing nuclear so close to my base now lol

[leaden dome]

And quarter foundations

[true mulch]

rookie mistake

[mortal ginkgo]

Who could have guessed that Nuclear Reactors cause radiation.

[stray herald]

Is the Super-State computer alt worth it?

[clever merlin]

IT NOT THAT

[mortal ginkgo]

You got a nice pfp, so I will agree with you regardless.

[clever merlin]

sorry caps

[placid remnant]

I love radiation

[clever merlin]

but i mean it some of that

[true mulch]

that's the funny thing

the power plants aren't radioactive at all 💀

[mortal ginkgo]

Nuclear Reactors are chungus.

[clever merlin]

it just that so much stuff that trying to put it in another olocatin

[sterile blade]

If they're load-balanced, they don't

[mortal ginkgo]

Hold up.

Hold up a minute brotherman.

HOLD THAT MINUTE.

What am I seeing in SCIM visuals in other player's images?

[placid remnant]

Nuclear energy for life

[clever merlin]

would been just i dont know insane it flet like and i though i had it far enough that most the radation stuff would not affect me i guess i just didnt play out the plan to it fulletst

[mortal ginkgo]

wait, so if there is no fuel rod outside, no radiation occurs?

[true mulch]

that is, in fact, the fuel in the power plant

the power production doesn't emit any radiation

[clever merlin]

no your right it doest

[true mulch]

if you only ever feed it 1 fuel rod at a time, it will not emit any radiation

[clever merlin]

it just all the neuclar astuff around it

[sterile blade]

After a rod is consumed (and the powerplant doesn't have any piled up), there's absolutely 0 radiation

[hard ivy]

not that the radiation really matters. I never bothered to balanced my reactors. just filled all of them

[clever merlin]

yea it just the uranium and waste

[placid remnant]

It's best to produce the absolute most amount of radiation as possible so you can get extra limbs

[clever merlin]

really that causes radation

[mortal ginkgo]

THIS IS MADNESS!

Are you guys telling me that, Balancers are THE option for this?!

As a Manifold Enjoyer, I can't accept this truth!

REFUNDING THE GAME AS WE SPEAK! Even Steam gonna agree with me despite my 300+ hour gameplay hour!

[clever merlin]

if you can control those 2 things your good

well and rods sorry

[true mulch]

besides the slow burn rate, that's why NPPs are one of the few use cases where are balancers arguably better than manifolds :)

[mortal ginkgo]

My world is UPSIDE DOWN and my life is RUINED.

[true mulch]

practically it's more about the slow burn rate though, but the radiation is a cool benefit 😛

[mortal ginkgo]

We got realistic fluid physics but we don't have a Nuclear Reactor that is Nuclear Reacting?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!??!

Why are they called Nuclear REACTOR if it is not reacting?!?!?!?!?

Is it even NUCLEAR at this point?!?!?!?

[wicked nacelle]

no, it's exactly the same

[hard ivy]

? Not really. you can manifold just fine. especially because large balancers are a pita to build

[sterile blade]

Meh. It's all about taste.
The usual manifold Vs balancer logic applies except for the radiation part ("by the time I finish building the factory, the manifolds will be full")

[clever merlin]

i kind of wished even if it wasnt much but they allowed waste to be sinked

[wicked nacelle]

what do you mean "wasn't much"?

[mortal ginkgo]

I think it would make it too easy and the point is that Nuclear got a waste.

You can still make Plut Rods and sink them tho'

[true mulch]

@wicked nacelle@hard ivy it will take over 24 hours for a setup of 24 NPPs to start with a manifold unless primed

[peak wasp]

what happens if i delete my hub and die

[wicked nacelle]

the point is to make the game more complicated as you progress. that's why there's no water sink. that's why nuclear power has waste

[sterile blade]

Lol, Ondar took a "triple attack"

[wicked nacelle]

who cares

[mortal ginkgo]

You spawn at where you started the game.

[wicked nacelle]

you'll still respawn somewhere

[true mulch]

thank you for your invaluable opinion

[peak wasp]

is it bad for me to just use blueprints

[hard ivy]

just put the extractors on a switch and turn them off, the reactors will take 4h to fill

[sterile blade]

Yes. You'll find a hefty fine at your doorstep soon enough, saying "too efficient"

[wicked nacelle]

sorry, you said "objective" so I figured you meant objective. Instead you mean "it's what I want"

[clever merlin]

I totaly agree unreal just be nice lol for those that are more lazy

[true mulch]

what the hell is your problem 😭

[odd shell]

Today i found out global illumination was turned off :(( When i turned it on i saw the world as never seen before hihi

[peak wasp]

someone else made them though and they look efficient

[wicked nacelle]

it's one that I can fix

[mortal ginkgo]

Hehe, I think people that are lazy just putting 31209389102398103 amount of rocket fuel generators for power instead.

[hard ivy]

my problem is that you said that something is objectively better when it's not even close to that

[shy fog]

Bait sighted....

[mortal ginkgo]

Can relate. I was like "wow..."

[clever merlin]

ty for the kind words lol

[sterile blade]

It's your game. You should be the one to decide how to play it (and bear the responsability if you engineer the fun out of your game :P)

[odd shell]

Yeaa i finished building a factory with ma friend and put some nice lighting in. He said ye the g.. illu.. makes it so awese i was like whuttt. hahaha

[split ravine]

point of the game is fun? thought it was to challenge the player with awful ratios and build mechanics

[sterile blade]

"Less subjectively better"?

[true mulch]

I retract that and say that I meant "arguably" instead of "objectively", however I find the attitude in your response unnecessary

[leaden dome]

Rocket fuel is cool but I’m not looking forward to feeding 1,700 fuel gens in a way that actually works

[mortal ginkgo]

There are also some GameEngine.ini edits that you can do make it look even better at some cost, depending on your PC. Check reddit for some latest posts about it.

[wicked nacelle]

how dare people respond to what I actually said vs what only I knew I meant

[mortal ginkgo]

even when fully OWed I can't see myself spamming them over and over again even with blueprints...

I also don't like the way they look...

Nuclear is like.. chungus, big boi, you know?

[odd shell]

Oh rlly u have link by any means? :))

[mortal ginkgo]

Fuel gen is like... soy.

[sterile blade]

If you find that fun, the point can be in that too.
Hell, there's some crazies out there that could finish the game using just one input on all manufacturers just to prove that you can get every ratio exactly right

Some just manifold everything 🤷‍♂️
There's something for everyone

[shy fog]

I'm one of the hand building crazies so I must represent

[sterile blade]

Argh, not the crafting bench enthusiasts!!!

[odd shell]

Maybe some of u can help i wanted to import a blueprint from statisfactory blueprint but in the appdat% map at savegames there was no blueprint map. Can i just add that map ?

[atomic notch]

Bros playin handcrafting sim

[shy fog]

... at least I'm in phase 4

[hard ivy]

a survival game

[atomic notch]

Satisworkbench

[dense tiger]

you can create it yourself but you can just make a blueprint and save it and it will create the folder

[sterile blade]

*respond with such attitude to...

[odd shell]

Ahh so two options fix the prob

Thnks

[mortal ginkgo]

google "reddit satisfactory global illumination console command" and find some latest posts about editing GameEngine.ini

[shy fog]

solution 1: make the engineer the sun

[sterile blade]

Do they include something to make all signs have GI like they used to?

[mortal ginkgo]

"AppData\Local\FactoryGame\Saved\Config\Windows". Then add this to engine.ini:
[SystemSettings]
r.AOGlobalDistanceField.MinMeshSDFRadius=1

Have a back up of Engine.ini just in case.

[sterile blade]

... Uhm, did you reply to the wrong message?

[mortal ginkgo]

@sterile blade @odd shell

Copy paste below to Engine.ini at ""AppData\Local\FactoryGame\Saved\Config\Windows"

be careful I got a lolgamer PC so it can handle stuff, but for you might be dangerous. Keep a backup of the file.

[SystemSettings]
r.AOGlobalDistanceField.MinMeshSDFRadius=1
r.Lumen.Reflections.SmoothBias=0.8
r.Lumen.Reflections.RadianceCache=1
r.Lumen.HardwareRayTracing=1
r.Lumen.HardwareRayTracing.LightingMode=1
r.Lumen.ScreenProbeGather.TracingOctahedronResolution=10
r.Lumen.ScreenProbeGather.Temporal.MaxFramesAccumulated=30
r.Lumen.ScreenProbeGather.DownsampleFactor=24
r.Lumen.ScreenProbeGather.ScreenTraces.HZBTraversal.MaxIterations=200
r.Lumen.TraceMeshSDFs=1
r.Lumen.TraceMeshSDFs.TraceDistance=100
r.Lumen.TranslucencyReflections.FrontLayer.Enable=1
r.LumenScene.SurfaceCache.CardTexelDensityScale=1000
r.LumenScene.Lighting.AsyncCompute=1
r.Lumen.DiffuseIndirect.AsyncCompute=1
r.Lumen.Reflections.AsyncCompute=1
r.Shadow.MaxCSMResolution=2048
r.Shadow.MaxResolution=1024
r.Shadow.DistanceScale=2
r.DynamicGlobalIlluminationMethod=1
r.FilmGrain=0
r.FidelityFX.FSR3.AutoExposure=1
r.FidelityFX.FI.Enabled=0
r.FidelityFX.FSR3.DeDither=1
tick.AllowAsyncTickDispatch=1
tick.AllowAsyncTickCleanup=1
FX.BatchAsync=1

[sterile blade]

I'll take all the GI they can make. All of it!

[mortal ginkgo]

No, it is what makes signs work properly with GI as some reddit folks claim

[small notch]

just got the iron pipe alternate recipe that good?

[mortal ginkgo]

yeah, if you can provide the iron for it. many players use it

[small notch]

im trying to get the steel alternate recipe

[mortal ginkgo]

this one is ok too

[wicked nacelle]

it is convenient if you just need a few but in general you're going to need way more pipes than you'll get from that recipe

[sterile blade]

You first say "no", but the follow-up kinda sounds like a "yes"
Signs used to all be included in GI calculations, but in 1.0 that has been an exclusive of Billboards... So "fixing" that could mean reverting to a pre-1.0 state in thay regard

[odd shell]

@mortal ginkgo In my engine.ini are not that data as is what u send

[mortal ginkgo]

"no" to "did you reply to wrong message?"

[sterile blade]

Oh, gotcha!

[mortal ginkgo]

you add this to bottom

copy paste it after one space, save and done

[odd shell]

Thnx!

Anyone knows why frame generation is off? I cant turn it on

[wicked nacelle]

you have to have dlss on, right?

[odd shell]

yea dlss qoulity preset

[wicked nacelle]

what video card?

[odd shell]

anti aliasing is greyed out at TAA

[peak wasp]

can i run my factory off of sulphur

[odd shell]

RTX 4080

[craggy silo]

hey guys i been trying to run the game on steam deck

[wicked nacelle]

upscaling method should be nvidia dlss and then you should be able to turn on frame generation

[craggy silo]

but for some reason i cant be able to click on the agree thing

[prime jasper]

Is there any way to put a hot key on some tools (rifle, zip line, nobelisk, chainsaw, etc...)?

The mouse wheels just feels slow, clunky and unnatural to me once I get too many tools.

[craggy silo]

on the steam deck any fix or update on this

[wicked nacelle]

not that I know of

[odd shell]

@wicked nacelle i cant i don't understand why

[mortal ginkgo]

were you able to do so before you edited engine.ini? revert the changes and try again if so

[odd shell]

no before i couldt turn it on also

[mortal ginkgo]

as he said it does not work on all dlss types, give all a try

[odd shell]

With DLSS anti aliasing is also greyed out at TAA not TSA

[sterile blade]

Note: when you open the inventory, you can press numbers to equip stuff based on their order in the "relevant items" bar... If I recall correctly

[sterile blade]

Thus shohdk also work to put things inside machines, with the same logic

I haven't tried in 1.0 tbh...

[odd shell]

Oh if i use AMD FSR i can turn it on but thats weirtd ive got an nvidea

[peak wasp]

im doing a run without bio generators

[peak wasp]

i did it

[sullen gull]

It "works". But there are unintennded bugs where it puts the jetpack into the DD instead of swapping with hoverpack.

[peak wasp]

im gonna play without bio generators on a new save

[sterile blade]

You kinda need them to automate stuff to unlock coal though...

[peak wasp]

false

sulphur is my best friend

[sterile blade]

Oh. That makes sense

[mellow elm]

How do I prevent these horrible spiders from spawning in the swamp?
I placed foundations everywhere, but they still spawn.

[peak wasp]

im searching for a uranium node to put the hub on

[sterile blade]

You need to place powered things to prevent spawn 😆

[mellow elm]

will power poles work?

[sterile blade]

Nope, it needs to have some power draw or production iirc

[sullen gull]

Feel like it need a machine running near

[sterile blade]

(Even a machine on standby would be fine, but a power pole is not enough)

[merry cobalt]

Does anyone know why I can't seem to rotate Storage Boxes in 45 degree angles any more?
I haven't played the game in a year or so, and couldn't find the answer online.

[sterile blade]

I still have no clue about how you think of finishing the game without biomass generators (I'm assuming you don't want to use even the ones I'm the HUB...)

[peak wasp]

naur uh

[sterile blade]

I don't recall Storage Containers rotating by less than 90 degrees at a time, on Fondation... Ever

Meybe you had some mods on

[merry cobalt]

No mods.

[sullen gull]

Only way to do it in Vanilla, is to place a foundation on top, one tick without ctrl, then either nudge it down and snap the container to it, or snap the container and then nudge the container down.

Or a beam will work. for "custom" angles

[past hedge]

yea no that was nerver a thing as far back as i can remember atleast not though any norma lmeans

only through workarounds or just rotating the foundation bellow and then replacing it after

[merry cobalt]

I've always been able to just rotate them at 45 degrees by scrolling. Never used any kind of mod. So this is a bit puzzling. CTRL seems to not do much.

[sterile blade]

Just to make sure, but we're talking about containers on Foundations, right?

[sullen gull]

#screenshots message Works best with DD closed.

[merry cobalt]

I am speaking about Personal Storage Boxes, the small ones like the one that comes with the Hub.

[sullen gull]

Oh

[merry cobalt]

The tiny orange, medical, and radioactive boxes.

[past hedge]

yea those you could rotate

[sterile blade]

How did I read that as "storage containers"? 🤦‍♂️

[sullen gull]

Lol, when you say containers, everyone's mind goes to the "containers" lol

[merry cobalt]

Happens 🙂

[sullen gull]

As for the personal boxes, afaik, since end of U8 as least, without infiinite nudge, they would only rotate 90

[past hedge]

man this is a chain of misinformation

[sullen gull]

Unless using rotated foundation or beam of course.

[past hedge]

we actually unironically made a chain of misinformation

[sterile blade]

Nono, they did say "storage box", it was me who then went off about Containers 🤦‍♂️

[sullen gull]

Lol no worries, same for me

[past hedge]

i read vencam's message which he said container so i was very confused lol

[sterile blade]

Tbf, each bit of info is accurate... Just misplaced xD

[sullen gull]

Either way, for ALL THE BOXES THAT HOLD THINGS .... they would only ever rotate 90 for me.

Without mods.

[merry cobalt]

So, the small boxes rotate no problem on the map's ground, in little increments. But on anything player made, it's a 90 degree snap only.

[sullen gull]

Would use "snap points" to rotate how I wanted.

[merry cobalt]

I have many of them on the server on foundations at 45 degrees, and I can't do it any longer. Hence my confusion.

[red flicker]

so uh

[merry cobalt]

This is just very odd.

[red flicker]

i guess i had higher expectations for my laptop

[merry cobalt]

The only thing that changed with my game was that it updated.

[red flicker]

but satisfactory is so laggy on 720p on a framework 13

what did i spend so much money on 😭

[past hedge]

this game is a gameified benchmark

and laptops are shit cause they clock too low for gaming

[sullen gull]

Do like so: #screenshots message

[red flicker]

luckily i didnt buy it just for gaming

but still

[sterile blade]

Mine works pretty well.
It consistently helps heating up my room, which is all I bought it for, really...

[past hedge]

mine works "well" but only when i dont have a point of reference

my 2016 pc performes better than my brand new laptop with a 4050

[merry cobalt]

Thank you for the workaround! This helps! Although it is a bit depressing that I need it from now. I don't ever recall not being able to just freely rotate them at a moment's notice prior to 2025. I hope this wasn't a mistake with any update.

[sterile blade]

The time I bought a PC not for gaming, I had to give it back. The time I took a "gaming" PC, suddenly it could do all I needed...
Sighs

[sullen gull]

ALl I know is that it's been this way since U8 from what I remember 🤷‍♂️

[merry cobalt]

Very odd. But thank you for the help!

[sterile blade]

Iirc, if you manage to place a rotated one in a blueprint designer, the blueprint should keep the angle (if it doesn't, you'll have to blueprint the box+ the foundation below it)

[stray herald]

I'd like a council vote please https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1412182365345939506

[merry cobalt]

I didn't think of trying that approach, useful!

[sullen gull]

Also, with 1.1, they added shelves that hold those containers as well.

[merry cobalt]

Thanks!

[sullen gull]

And, that beam "trick" works for basically everything fyi

[sterile blade]

I refuse and take the chance to encourage you to pick based on your personal preferences instead :P (or explain such preferences so we can have a convo about it)

[merry cobalt]

I saw them yesterday, they seem neat.

[stray herald]

I usually follow a tierlist from Reddit but these two are right next to each other on the list, both in A tier

[sullen gull]

ok, time to go finsih "touching grass"

[sullen gull]

It's a bit bad form to follow those tiers. every alt has it's use-case.

[stray herald]

TBH if I can remove the need for cooling systems I'd rather use motors instead

[sullen gull]

You will never "miss-out" getting all the alts

There are more than enough hard drives on the map

[limpid cairn]

theres like 5 extra hard drives

[stray herald]

Oh yeah I am grinding them rtight now I got 17 in my inventory

[sullen gull]

6 iirc. 112 alts, 118 hard drives

[sterile blade]

I think you should just pick based on your own preferences, not someone else's (ie: whoever made the list).
Unless you've finished the game once already, I don't think there's much value in following other peoples' advice on this, as you'll be missing out on discovering which recipes you prefer and why

[stray herald]

I have 68 drives found total, 2 of them are used on MAM research so I have 66 alts

[stray herald]

I do try to see my use case for each item too but that is sounds advice!:D

[sullen gull]

When you can't make a choice, unless you require the specific alt right now, just leav it in the list. So it doesn't come up next roll

[unkempt blade]

or flip a coin! live dangerously!

[stray herald]

There''s less oil than I'd like to have all around so I am trying to minimize oil usage currently, using alts

[trim vine]

Diluted fuel and recycled plants

[sterile blade]

The HOR + Diluted Fuel + Recycled Plubber combo can do wonders for production, but you can certainly cut out oil consumption a lot withy the right alts

[merry cobalt]

Just tested your method, the beam works, but I can't seem to nudge it down. I don't even see the option.

[sterile blade]

The button should be "page down/up"

[limpid cairn]

its on the opposite site of delete and paste

above the arrow keys

on a 100% keyboard

[merry cobalt]

Seems to work after I lock the hologram, but it goes through the floor way too much. 😅

[limpid cairn]

Hold ctrl

[merry cobalt]

That fixed it! Thank you!

Much appreciated everyone, I now have a solution. Thanks!

Next step would be to see if someone pops out a rotation mod. 😄

[fossil ice]

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[sterile blade]

We have so many mods~

[merry cobalt]

I haven't checked any of them. Literally been playing the base game for years.

Do mods break Steam achievement progression?

[prime jasper]

Oh thanks. It would basically works just like for the building menu, I will try that solution next session

[sterile blade]

There's plenty enough to make one go "oh, there's a mod for that too?!"

[sterile blade]

It might not work anymore... :/
See convo around #satisfactory message

[lost cloak]

omfg best troll ive ever seen. If ur friend goes afk, in multiplayer, strap a bomb to their back. When they come back, they wont notice anything, until they try to melee something, and just randomly blow up

[sterile blade]

Just tell them to avoid hypertubes

[lost cloak]

oh that blows em up too

[sterile blade]

Huh... TIL ^^

Yeah totally!
So long as it's not me...

[potent scaffold]

my first time playing this game with spagetti everywhere and its so fun, idk why i bother with nice organised factories

[sterile blade]

Because both can be fun in their own ways and sticking to just one or the other can get boring?

[potent scaffold]

yeah too used to effeciency + planning

gameplay much faster too, already automated super computers (i started yesterday)

[manic arrow]

should i automate the new space elevator parts or is it something i can just manually craft in the constructor or whatever

[potent scaffold]

most are made with previous phase parts so automate them

[hollow halo]

Yes.. the constructor…. (No)

[sterile blade]

You can read where you can craft items in each item's description

[prime jasper]

Strap a bomb? Why limitate yourself.

I'm gonna it enough nukes to create a nuclear winter on his back.

[hollow halo]

Help 🙏😔

[lost cloak]

nono he wont blow up until he hits something

[sterile blade]

"Nalv, I'm getting swarmed, help!
Hey! Help me fight them off!
Why are you backing away?!?"

[jade frigate]

Is it possible to check height coordinates in game?

I see XY on the map but what about the height?

[feral geyser]

Location&Rotation mod

[manic arrow]

should i put my coal generators near the water or should i bring the water towards my base?

[feral geyser]

The first one

[shy mulch]

coal is easier to transport than water

[feral geyser]

You can almost always find coal near water too.

[limpid cairn]

Does it use the accessible ocean level as 0?

[feral geyser]

I'm actually not sure, now that you ask.

[limpid cairn]

[feral geyser]

Cuz there are places below that you can build

[reef basin]

yes, with some console command, look it up on wiki

[limpid cairn]

Greeny or you?

[mellow cove]

Anybody here knows train/train signals

[reef basin]

probably somebody does

[mellow cove]

I just need someone

[reef basin]

ask your question instead of looking for person

ideally in #1038092680493801533

[mellow cove]

Yeah i did

[reef basin]

then don't write here 🙂

[mellow cove]

Just that nobodys there

[reef basin]

well you didn't ask any question

specify your question (https://dontasktoask.com/)

[modest solstice]

gUuh i hate the swamp so much 5 alpha stingers 😭

i dont even know what they were guarding

[mellow cove]

Someone who knows train signals thats willing to help me figure out multiple railway junction signal issues,

[reef basin]

show the issue. Share a screenshot, talk about what's the problem

(in the thread, not here)

[modest solstice]

i could have sworn there was a train channel...

[reef basin]

never was

[mellow cove]

Yeah

[modest solstice]

oh i'm thinking about the factorio discord nvm

[reef basin]

there are no screenshots or issue description in the thread yet 🤷

[modest solstice]

you can do screenshots in threads? i thought threads inherited the parent channel's permissions

[reef basin]

yeah, and #1038092680493801533 allows screenshots

[modest solstice]

neat

[atomic notch]

I can do signaling. $20

[silk oasis]

anyone know why my pipeline system has to be flushed out every few minutes?

[hard ivy]

why are you flushing it exactly?

[limpid cairn]

Do you have a basher and a dream ?

[modest solstice]

i have a basher and a nightmare of elite gas stingers

[silk oasis]

if i dont presure stops entirely until i do then i have presure for a few minutes then gotta flush again

[hard ivy]

pressure?

[silk oasis]

pumps or not

[silk oasis]

flow rate

[hard ivy]

are you consuming the fluid you're making?

[silk oasis]

yes

its for my coal system

[limpid cairn]

You don’t need to flush for coal

[hard ivy]

you probably need pumps then

[silk oasis]

dont need to normaly i dont have flow in my pipes for the water unless i do as said if i dont flow stops entirely until i do then i have presure for a few minutes then gotta flush again

[hard ivy]

flushing a pipe in a coal setup shouldn't do anything positive

[silk oasis]

as said i have pumps

[limpid cairn]

isnt flowrate supposed to be like 0 after a pipe fills up

[limpid cairn]

Send us a screenshot

[hard ivy]

better #1038092680493801533

[limpid cairn]

👆

[hard ivy]

some unlocks are bugged and don't do anything

I hear it's because skipping onboarding gives you the wrong number of slots

[limpid cairn]

It’s called game design, don’t question it

[hard ivy]

that's what I heard

[hard ivy]

there's a discrepancy between slots gained when doing and skipping onboarding

and then they get equalized when you do unlocks

so after all unlocks, you get the same number of slots regardless

[silk oasis]

sent

[limpid cairn]

Place a pump slightly under top part would be my best guess to fix it

[hard ivy]

place a pump at the very bottom

[stray herald]

Satisfactory? More like Satisfinery

[mellow elm]

What is the range for a placed powered object to stop a monster from spawning? And does that range apply to vertical as well as horizontal range?

[shy fog]

if you've never played before it's important to finish your Pioneer Obligatory Onboarding Program

[shy mulch]

onboarding is fun 🙂 I agree!

[white dawn]

I don't think the exact values have ever been gleaned. Should be in a sphere, though, I believe. And I don't know if all powered buildings are created equal. Even enough unpowered architecture should disable the spawn; I believe each buildable has some value of "don't spawn near here," so the spawn's just disabled when there's sufficient points nearby

[shy mulch]

speedruns aren't for me 🙂 I'm like the opposite of speedrunner. I have a save with over 200 hours that's still in phase 0 😄

[limpid cairn]

Mind if I ask what you did in those 200 hours?

[shy mulch]

unlocked almost all of the mam, collected spheres and sloops

and I have 40 ISC full of solid biomass for no reason, because I don't need it as I use power augmenters and geothermal for power

[limpid cairn]

Can you even unlock geothermal power without passing through tier 1?

[shy mulch]

yep

[hard ivy]

isn't MAM T1/T2?

[shy mulch]

its mam, not tier research

[hard ivy]

Yeah, it's T1

[limpid cairn]

Tbh he did mention phase 0

[hard ivy]

so you can't do it in T0, but you can in P0

[limpid cairn]

And phase 1 starts after you give the space elevator 50 car parts (I forgot the name)

[shy mulch]

Dunno what to tell you, in that save I have never built the space elavator, so doesn't that mean I'm still phase 0?

[lost cloak]

hes still not hit anything, he still has the bombs on his back 1hr later 😛

LOL and i ripped out the detonator and blew him up while i was on the other side of the planet

PRICELESS reaction! 😄 im on voice with him

[rose lotus]

what is the intermittent echoing impact sound in the north canyon supposed to be

is it just some ambience (and if so, what is it meant to evoke) or is it an actual ingame entity

[shy mulch]

I'm sure there's a yo moma joke in there somewhere

[keen jacinth]

they really went all out for the adaptive control unit
yeah lets make em suffer with like 4 different trees of assembly

[wicked nacelle]

restart the game and see if it's still there? if so, use the map to get the coordinates where you are?

[rose lotus]

it has been happening since i started, many restarts ago

[wicked nacelle]

what coords? (they're in the top right corner of the map)

[shy mulch]

it gets better worse

[rose lotus]

you know that clearing in the north forest overlooking the west end of the canyon

where they removed the two quartz nodes and the coal node in 1.0

[wicked nacelle]

I don't, just share the coordintes, please 🙂

[keen jacinth]

go my satisfactory build planner/calculator

[rose lotus]

https://i.imgur.com/HJtSClB.jpeg

it sounds like it is coming from the canyon, roughly to the northeast

[exotic pilot]

Is there a way to see all the quality of life things with building and that

[atomic notch]

Train signals arent that hard so thats just the price for laziness

[rose lotus]

also is there a way to copy over blueprints between saves while keeping the categorization

copying the files is easy enough, but... https://i.imgur.com/wcKm8ZT.jpeg

[hard ivy]

copy the sbpcfg file too

though I'm only like 90% sure this'll work

[boreal musk]

phase 1 is tier 1 and 2, 50 smart plating is to unlock phase 2 (tier 3 and 4)

a lot of ppl seems to confused this alot

phase 3 is oil, phase 4 is aluminum, phase 5 is quantum shenanigans

[blissful atlas]

To farm quartz I need to get a sulfur mine up first right

[hard ivy]

no, they're independent

[blissful atlas]

Wait but the entrance is blocked with the rocks that need to be blown up using the explosives that uses sulfur no?

[boreal musk]

there are other entrances that doesnt blocked by boulder

[hard ivy]

find different quartz then or a different entrance

[blissful atlas]

Also I was thinking to farm the 2 pure quartz nodes in north west
Is it possible to use conveyer lifts eventually to bypass the terrain instead of looping the conveyer all the way back to entrance?

[hard ivy]

you can clip lifts through terrain if you want, yes

the terrain needs to be thin enough tho

[blissful atlas]

But if I can select the conveyer belt above it I can forcefully clip the lift all the way down no?

[hard ivy]

hmm you could use the floor hole trick to clip the lift any distance

[blissful atlas]

Was just thinking since that's prob what I would want to do instead of routing it all the way back to entrance
The entrance for that cave that isn't blocked is the north most entrance?

Was the at the north west entrance and is blocked too

[blissful atlas]

Oh? Care to share?

[atomic notch]

I got like 2 train stations in that cave

[blissful atlas]

Wouldn't conveyers be more efficient?

[hard ivy]

if you're in the rocky desert, the big cave has 4 entrances, 1 blocked by rocks, 1 blocked by gas, and the other 2 are free iirc. the eastern and northeastern one

[blissful atlas]

Tks 👍

[atomic notch]

I have no clue

[hard ivy]

the eastern one will be easiest to find. it's near the bay and coal nodes at the edge of the desert

[crude canyon]

what do you guys think of factory carts?

[atomic notch]

Theyre cool

[feral geyser]

@unkempt blade

[crude canyon]

Oh yeah, I especially wanted to see that guy's save

[blissful atlas]

Btw is it possible to mod to completely removed seeing the update of items on conveyer belts to improve performance?

[limpid cairn]

@unkempt blade another one

[limpid cairn]

It’s possible ig

[hard ivy]

you'd have better chances of getting an answer in the modding discord

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[limpid cairn]

I wonder why that’s even a question

Everything is possible with modding

[placid valley]

Why must water extractors be so picky...

[vivid spade]

Ugh who knew making a power system that makes 60,000 MW is going to take awhile to complete

[quasi otter]

I just beat satisfactory for the first time and 100% it

[placid valley]

Oh yeah do you know how fluids work now? 😛

[quasi otter]

depends on the fluid

[limpid cairn]

Dissolved silica

[carmine aspen]

you know what would be cool for a 2.0 update? a new playable area on the planet (a new map)

[quasi otter]

i have not messed with that yet

[calm dawn]

how do i split 1 input evenly between 5 points?

and no, im not using manifolds

[hard ivy]

a 1:5 balancer

[limpid cairn]

Or, manifold😝

[stray field]

Any updates on when it comes to console?

[calm dawn]

its not an even spread

[quasi otter]

nov 4

[hard ivy]

#announcements

[left blade]

Anyone else noticed productive packer deluxe doesn't seem to have a non rotated T piece? Feels like I'm going insane, but I've noticed every other tetromino except the non rotated T for some reason. Maybe I'm blind?

[rose lotus]

that is what the blueprints are

[limpid cairn]

Another map won’t come pretty sure

[rose lotus]

ie I copied those because those are the only files

[hard ivy]

no, the BPs are the .sbp files

[limpid cairn]

Or maybe as an dlc when Satisfactory is finished, but I’m not a dev so I can’t really guarantee anything

[rose lotus]

oh I did not even see the difference

well I copied both, from the beginning

https://i.imgur.com/E7iKpCn.png

[hard ivy]

afaik, the cfg files contain the BP categories

but maybe you need to create the categories first

[rose lotus]

does it perhaps depend on the save having those categories already defined

beat me to it

[hard ivy]

yeah, idk what the files contain. opening them in notepad doesn't show anything legible

[limpid cairn]

Opening game files nether shows up anything since they not meant to be opened with a text editor

Speaking from experience, i crashed my notepad one too many times with opening game files

[hard ivy]

eh, in some games, files can be opened as if they're txts juste fine

[hard ivy]

I use NP++

[limpid cairn]

ig they are then files that don’t need an engine to work?

[limpid cairn]

Nice, I don’t own a notepad on my pc 😔

[coral sundial]

how do i transport resources from miners

[true mulch]

belts

[coral sundial]

say its 1500m away

still belts?

[true mulch]

what resource is it

[tall lantern]

long belts, or vehicles

[quasi otter]

train

[limpid cairn]

Factory carts

[tall lantern]

or just process it on-site instead of sending it so far

[quasi otter]

yes

[limpid cairn]

No

[quasi otter]

i was saying yes factory carts

[limpid cairn]

Oh

[coral sundial]

carts?

[limpid cairn]

Do you have the awesome shop unlocked ?

[coral sundial]

yes

i havenmt really looked at it i should

[quasi otter]

ficsit specials

[limpid cairn]

yes

[hard ivy]

I just checked 2 sbpcfg files and they differ by literally 2 bytes lol. the other 142 are identical

[quasi otter]

carts dont need fuel

im actually in a factory cart as we speak

[coral sundial]

how do i get coupons

[quasi otter]

awesome sink

[coral sundial]

whats best to sink in it

[shrewd palm]

ballistic warp drives

[limpid cairn]

Excess resources

[coral sundial]

such as?

[quasi otter]

iron plates

[shrewd palm]

if you dont want to sell your soul just sink any and all excess resources, byproducts, or go completely overkill on something like aluminum and then sink everything you don't use

[boreal musk]

any excess from your production really

i personally like sinking alien dna for surplus of coupons early on

[shrewd palm]

youc an get a LOT of coupons out of dna for a little while

sloop the constructors and you get like 4x the dna you'd normally get or something

[limpid cairn]

Build an extra factory that produces 50 cement per min and sink that

[signal shale]

By thee by, I reemember being told once that 1m foundations tend to not play nicely with other things, is that still the case such that i should mainly stick to 2m foundations?

[boreal musk]

already fixed

[signal shale]

That's cool. Thanks. It's less the cost and more I like the smaller "overhead," so to speak.

[boreal musk]

all foundation cost the same 5 concretes

[signal shale]

I hadn't even looked, but noted!

[coral glacier]

Uraanium Feeever

[quasi otter]

you guys ever hear of the youtuber imkibitz

[coral glacier]

Ofc

[quasi otter]

im on his satisfactory world save

[coral glacier]

Patreon or Twitch sub?

[quasi otter]

patreon

[coral glacier]

oh cool

[atomic notch]

Any easter eggs? Or is it just a normal world

[quasi otter]

normal

i built a racetrack around the powerplant

[atomic notch]

Lol

[quasi otter]

factory carts

[peak wasp]

usually best to sink all overflow

so if you make rotors, have overflow set to a sink etc

[uncut trail]

What's wrong with my meme why's everyone tagging to check the pins @fervent umbra @abstract trail

[warm phoenix]

Finally unlocked smart splitter
its a real shame that it was right after the realization that trains can only unload when entering from one direction

[hard ivy]

did you check the pins?

[uncut trail]

Yea

[hard ivy]

like literally the very first one?

[uncut trail]

I did what's wrong

[abstract trail]

how dare you ping me

[smoky nimbus]

Does anyone have a 4-6 load balancer...

[uncut trail]

Nice england

[hard ivy]

Friendly reminder that this channel isn't supposed to be another ⁠screenshots channel for posting funny pics

[uncut trail]

So what I didn't post pic I posted video funny video

[hard ivy]

it's a clip, not a meme

[fervent umbra]

._.

[uncut trail]

Ohh pics only?

[fervent umbra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/456117300446232578/1411067671474081812/a12sso.png?ex=68b7432d&is=68b5f1ad&hm=2659d06e49629315ed7306bdd584c36390a6c71adb767dabbbf20531d222b470&

[hard ivy]

do you not know what a meme is?

[warm phoenix]

I legit thought i could run train like
pick up material in station A > drop off at station b > pick up different material on station c > drop off at station b > repeat

[uncut trail]

Funny shit what I posted has to be considered funny

Y'all are way to strick about your shi gotta loosen up

[abstract trail]

real

[uncut trail]

Being a navy seal has to offer more freedom

There's literally a clip posted above my clip

[fervent umbra]

be carful if the station b dont left anything in the train

[uncut trail]

TF is this cherry picking

[warm phoenix]

Easy
just prepare cargo car for each material

[uncut trail]

I didn't see anyone ask the other guy to check the pins

[atomic notch]

Get over it lmao

[uncut trail]

I have to get over it?

[fervent umbra]

ada will not be happy

[sullen gull]

If the station you are unloading to isn't completely empty when the train goes to unload, it will still have materials in it and can't load at next stop

[warm phoenix]

with Bennet Foddy

[hard ivy]

every single game screenshot or clip I saw in there always got ed lol

[stray herald]

Is heavy oil residue a good alt? Does it end up saving oil on rubber and plastic?

[peak wasp]

guys stop fighting, enjoy the game 🙂

[abstract trail]

yes its good

[uncut trail]

Wrong but whatever

[peak wasp]

clean your spaghetti

[sullen gull]

Yes it's good

[uncut trail]

Couldn't care atp

[peak wasp]

it's hip to be square

[abstract trail]

bold of you to assume i have spaghetti

[warm phoenix]

Good way to dispose residue

Until rifle demands mass gunpowder production

[fervent umbra]

juste make clean spaghetti

[abstract trail]

i am waiting for my friend to get on, they are hosting the world

[boreal musk]

hor alt trade 3 oil for 4 residue which is a powerful recipe if youre going to make fuel

[fervent umbra]

do propaganda it might work

[boreal musk]

especially if you pair it with diluted fuel

[abstract trail]

[fervent umbra]

FICSIT propaganda >>>>>>

[hard ivy]

It's one of the best. you need a few other ones to save oil on plastic/rubber, but when you do, you save nearly 80%

[feral geyser]

like when a british guy takes a good look at something

[stray herald]

I just built a power plant with diluted fuel lmao guess I gotta re-do it with the diluted fuel

[warm phoenix]

I need to get better alt recipes fr
i still dont even have iron wire

[feral geyser]

propa' ganda

[abstract trail]

crazy

[boreal musk]

with hor + diluted alt you basically trading 3 oil for 8 fuel

[feral geyser]

for the cost of just water, this is peak

[peak wasp]

show me (please)

[warm phoenix]

At very least im not crazy enough to pass up on iron screws

[fair salmon]

anyone ever have their splitters not work

mine wont send items down the sides of the splitter

[abstract trail]

its called cast screws-

[peak wasp]

first few play throughs, yep, but on the 3rd it's gotta be cleaner than the last

[sullen gull]

Try to rebuild it and the connections going to it. Also make sure it's not an unconfigured smart splitter

[hard ivy]

my cast screws are still in the HDD library and I'll never take it. same with steel screws

[abstract trail]

i would but as i said my friend is hosting the world and they arent on and i dont have pictures

[peak wasp]

I am considering running one on a cloud server
wake up and so many tickets

[warm phoenix]

Im not native in English idk what these recipes called

[fair salmon]

smart splitter! thats what it was thank you

[rose lotus]

my lizard doggos keep "respawning"

[coral sundial]

Anyone just let their factory idle to make resources

[rose lotus]

like I tame and collect them but then the wild ones respawn, over and over

[coral sundial]

I’m trying to get enough tickets for this cart rn lol

[peak wasp]

it's going on in the background but I build enough to not worry about doing that

[feral geyser]

i fail to see a problem

[coral sundial]

I’m jsut bored and want to lay down for a few

[abstract trail]

just leave your pc on

[boreal musk]

i rarely afk, my resources build up when i do another project

[abstract trail]

but in the early game you need the resources that are building up to do another project

[boreal musk]

just build more

[abstract trail]

[coral sundial]

I’m jsut frustrated rn with resources being so far away from eachother

[peak wasp]

i take naps and let it run, also make food, watch yt

[coral sundial]

I need way more iron and coal but it’s so sparse

[abstract trail]

[coral sundial]

I don’t have trains yet