satisfactory

[hybrid nymph]

the stupid trains refused to dock at the station

[reef basin]

In the link I sent, it's mentioned that oil is sometimes centralised a bit more

[silk ocean]

Fuel Generators are noisy AF, especially when you're building in a farm of ones already running xD

[boreal musk]

just reduce the volume of fuel gen then

[silk ocean]

Yea lol

I don't mind the noise, just not so much when building

[boreal musk]

i find chainsaw sound more annoying than these machines

[silk ocean]

Would agree with that

Fortunately the chainsaw got replaced with nobelisks/nukes

[scenic mirage]

bruh what, one line of my aluminum factory is making 1065 alum scrap/min, the other line is making 1030 scrap/min. theyre literally the exact same inputs??

[silk ocean]

Something must be slightly different somewhere, or it's just a bit of fluctuation going on

[boreal musk]

are you using throughput monitor?

[scenic mirage]

yeah

[boreal musk]

they arent very accurate when it comes to calculating item in bursts like scrap

i have it running for an hour, 600/min of scrap in 780 belt
but the monitor still fluctuates like crazy

[scenic mirage]

i only have m5 conveyors and each lines supposed to make 1080 so i have the m5 fill up and smart split the rest onto another m5. same thing in both lines

[dense violet]

yeah the monitors are pretty pointless.

if you want to know if your machines are running well stare at their lights for a little bit

[boreal musk]

and the calculation resets each time you load your save

[bold python]

Setting up Super computers got me feeling 😡

[hexed phoenix]

And then we have the Quantum Computers ... (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[hard ivy]

doesn't matter. the outside display only shows an average over the last minute. running it over an hour won't make it any more accurate

[boreal musk]

ye thats why i never really use it

[silk ocean]

I wouldn't say they are totally pointless, I find them handy in places

[boreal musk]

if my machines never goes yellow, that means my math is right

[hard ivy]

I checked, however, that when averaged over a longer time, it's perfectly accurate

or at least as accurate as I could tell

[dense violet]

here, all you need is oil and cateriumhttps://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=eBZpIDPgD5F2SbSIBrMX

[hard ivy]

I would add some copper tho
https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=h0ARKYtnzTHWGzqp9LSu

[uncut trail]

is oc supercomputer alt good?

im tryna get diluted fuel and came across that one

[boreal musk]

it uses aluminum, if you bother bringing in bauxite

but it use less space

[uncut trail]

it seems more convenient

[gritty zealot]

tee hee haha

factories mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[hollow hazel]

anyone know the website that can calculate factorys

[hard ivy]

it's expensive AF

if you're gonna use aluminum, use super-state comp

[hard ivy]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[hollow hazel]

ty

[gritty zealot]

make sure to look at satisfactory modeler

[dim flint]

I'm planning out a complete rework of my game's production. Do you think it would be better to start with small/medium sized factories to produce more basic components and then scale / feed them into later parts? Or start with a few late stage part factories, and try to save excess to the dimensional depots?

[mortal ginkgo]

one thing you need to keep in mind is, mid game+ components need truly a lot of basic stuff.

so after making your smol basic stuff factory and using them for medium+ stuff will starve them rather quickly.

I personally overproduce for future for my Hub. Nothing wrong with that.

[dim flint]

Is your hub easy to scale for when you want to start a new production project and it needs more iron plates for example?

[silk ocean]

Could build a global rail network, do initial processing where the resources are, train them to factories that can basically be anywhere in the world once you have your rail network setup, do the intermediate/advanced processing at designated locations

Many ways to go about it tho

[dim flint]

Yea. I keep flipping in my head between more centralized and decentralized designs lol.

[mortal ginkgo]

I generally check a calculator and see for example how much Iron Plate I need. If I need 1000 iron plates for everything, I make like 800 and let the buffer handle the rest.

However this only goes for Hub. You should always focus on increasing production when needed. Map is large, so are the deposit counts so dont let your factories fight for components.

Make larger in time if you need to.

[dim flint]

I already have the base train network around the map. I'd just need to connect it to all the raw resources.

[boreal musk]

i have a mega factory that produce everything i need for build gun, the rest goes modular and have their own production line

i rarely do scalable factory

[dim flint]

This is what I was originally doing. But my friend broke it. I kind feel like I should just do that again and fix it at some point, but he changed a lot.

My first goal is to have everything in the dimensional depot I could ever need.

Then I'll worry about other parts.

I'm on phase 5 btw, and have basically everything unlocked.

[mortal ginkgo]

For a centralized HUB, you dont need to be able to make everything constantly because you won't use everything constantly.

Like 4/min heavy HEAVY modular frame can be more than enough, so is 4/min excess for simple frames etc.

[dim flint]

Yea. I'm trying to decide on reasonable rates rn.

[mortal ginkgo]

Obviously you go yolo with Concrete and Iron Plate, also Steel etc and Belt items but others can be rather... relax.

[boreal musk]

most of the material i produce are at single digit pm, except for belts, i produce them at 20-60pm rate

[dim flint]

I use a lot of aluminum for belts.

[mortal ginkgo]

yeah, majority can be single digit

just have a big storage to store

[silk ocean]

That will change as you progress to more advanced belts, to a degree

[dim flint]

I generally use Mk5. Mk6 is special need.

like pure nodes or high bandwidth areas.

[silk ocean]

Yea same, Mk.6 needs a fairly advanced set of resources

[dim flint]

I have them for now. Even if it's in the hacky hub my friend messed up.

[hard ivy]

I always use the highest belt available 🤷‍♂️

[dim flint]

I also don't like the way they look.

too bright.

[silk ocean]

I tend to more often than not, I don't really like the "plastic fantastic" white look of the Mk.6

Looks quite nice at night tho

[boreal musk]

use black as secondary color, it makes the belt color invisible

well, almost

[mortal ginkgo]

you can reduce that shine btw

[boreal musk]

but not as bright as other color

[uncut trail]

guys what are actual useful stuff you can get with tickets

[silk ocean]

Do tell xD

[fluid sapphire]

Every set of buildables on the store?

[silk ocean]

On the Factory Swatch ?

[uncut trail]

some of em eem downright useless?

[boreal musk]

any swatch will do, as long as you set the default to that swatch

[mortal ginkgo]

#satisfactory message

Just fiddle with the colors 😄

[silk ocean]

Can you set belt defaults separately?

I'm not much of a customizer person XD

[boreal musk]

no, default will set to machines, splurger and other stuff

you can color the belt individually if you want

[silk ocean]

Yea I'd rather not change that, kinda like my pale blue/grey look

[mortal ginkgo]

just middle click on an already pretty colored mk6 belt and it will copy the color as well

[silk ocean]

Mouse 4 for me due to mouse being on life support

Really need to order a new one lol

[uncut trail]

Does mk3 miner use more power than mk2

[boreal musk]

yes ofc

[hard ivy]

of course?

[vague jasper]

#screenshots message

i lovingly call this rig the contraption

[dim flint]

There are really only about 36 or so items I need in the dimensional depot for building. That's an average of about 30/min through a single 1200/min sushi belt.

[uncut trail]

✌🏻

[dim flint]

What about underclocked at the same output rate?

[uncut trail]

are batteries fully optional and moslty for drones?

[mortal ginkgo]

yep, before 1.0 drones could only use batteries but now it is changed

[hard ivy]

the mk3 will still pull 20% more power

[uncut trail]

im curious if its necessary for progression\

[mortal ginkgo]

nope it isnt

[hard ivy]

not anymore

[vague jasper]

anyone else manually craft 1500 wire or are most people sane enough to automate that

[dim flint]

How do people learn which recipes are good. There are way too many for me to compare each one lol.

[uncut trail]

i hate manually crafting wish there was a way to automate things....

[hard ivy]

I do not hancraft any more items than I absolutely have to

[hard ivy]

SFTools

[dim flint]

oof, so much learning.

[vague jasper]

i fixed my power problem so i didnt have to do this and so i could automate it and im doing it anyways lmao

[uncut trail]

are you on building elevator?

[dim flint]

There's not a table out there someone made which generally ranks them by efficency gains?

[vague jasper]

yeah thats why im making the wire

[uncut trail]

dont bother yourself hand crafting

try to automate as many things as you can before building elevator

its pointless

grow factory

[astral gyro]

Its so easy to set up a temp setup for wire that its pointless to do that much

[uncut trail]

bro i hate clearing my inventory and filling it up wiith shit constantly

[astral gyro]

Same

[hard ivy]

yes. though I do not really recommend them, because resource efficiency isn't everything. besides, SFTools already optimizes for reseource efficiency. you just enable everything and then play around with disabling resources, recipes or machines to see if there's anything that's only slightly less efficient but way more conventient

[uncut trail]

what would be really good is that if there was a way to fav some items in inventory so they wouldnt get moved and deleted unless you do it manually like its in terraria

[astral gyro]

Its one of the reasons I havent rebuilt my temp factory yet lol

[uncut trail]

wdym by temp

[astral gyro]

Temporary

Full of spaghetti

[uncut trail]

yall build temporary factories?

ive only done it for packaging biofuel and normal biofuel early game

[silk ocean]

For the Starterfac

[uncut trail]

my shi is permanent. period

[astral gyro]

Everything is temporary until coal, I just got coal online a bit ago

In this save

[uncut trail]

i still have some of my factories with mk2 belts

[terse perch]

Random question, are there really no 4m long walls?

[polar quartz]

Is it a dumb idea to make a single factory that produces all "electronics" ( ai limiter , high speed connector , circuit board , computer , supercomputer , radio control unit , crystal oscillator ) all in the one factory or is that going to be a headache. with alternates i believe i can get it pretty simple with crystal computers and insulated oscillators etc.

To clarify I'm only trying to make 1 , maybe 2 manufacturers worth of supercomputers as from what ive heard thats all you really need to complete the game.

[scenic mirage]

#screenshots message
my head hurts

[boreal musk]

i have electronic factory making 150/min crystal osci, 100/min computer, 80/min rcu and 30/min supercomputer

you just need to plan it well to avoid spaghetti

[unkempt blade]

You know what's a really great way to reduce conveyor spaghetti? Factory carts.

[silk ocean]

lolwat

[lost wagon]

but now you have storage spaghetti

[unkempt blade]

yeah way fewer conveyors so by definition less conveyor spaghetti

just need to leave more room for truck stops like any sane pioneer would already be doing

[silk ocean]

Another way to avoid conveyor spaghetti - carry everything to all the machines xD

[lost wagon]

truck stop inside the factory?

ah you mean the sign

[unkempt blade]

Another valid spaghetti reduction strategy! Now you're getting it

[silk ocean]

xD

[unkempt blade]

inside the factory, outside the factory, under the sea anywhere you can fit them so your factory carts have options

[silk ocean]

Username checks out xD

[unkempt blade]

yeah I've picked my gimmick and it's the hill I'll die on

[silk ocean]

lol

[signal shale]

By the way, how do you know if a tunnel is too small for trains?

[astral gyro]

Drive the train full speed at the tunnel

[boreal musk]

by placing the trains on the rail?

[lost wagon]

doesn't it just clips everything

making roads with foundations is cool and all but since the blueprint connect thing making rails is way better, hopefully we get a proper road thing you can build that works similar to rails, so you don't have to fight to make a road while railroad you just click and drag a blueprint

[signal shale]

mkay, because I started on the west coast and was debating using rail to run coal from the understory of the northern red forest over to the west coast for steel production since I already havee all that iron over there, but some of the tunnels along the way get super narrow.

I am not sure about the max slope trains can handle, so I might or might not use rail to get quartz and SAM over to the main base, too. even using lifts to get it out of the demon cave still leaves a fairly steep slope to get down.

[glad drum]

Could always use conveyors to get it to somewhere a bit easier to have a train -- or build entire platforms that will help with the verticality

though I'm the guy that builds like this #screenshots message so you should definitely listen to me

[vague jasper]

are there more helmet skins or something?

[signal shale]

maybe, though by the time I do that, I'd bee so close I might as welel use a truck or just belt the stuff the rest of the way, too.

[signal shale]

you can find a few around the map, yes.

[vague jasper]

cool

time to look up where they are now

[silk ocean]

The construct tool really lags the frames at large factories

[unkempt blade]

You know what's really good in tight tunnels? Factory carts

[fathom shuttle]

Is there anything coming new with 1.2?

[warm phoenix]

having hard time trying to make train go back and forth with single line

[steep creek]

are your train stations facing eachother?

the arrows need to point towards the other station for it to work

[boreal musk]

they never announced 1.2

[outer moss]

Thank you, it is the flag of my people

[polar quartz]

Anyone have a good blueprint collection for train tracks?

[silk ocean]

I know why the Blender faces to the right in the build menu and all the others face left, it's because the Blender is the best machine. In a class above all other machines, it has its own identity and direction. It turns away from the other lesser machines XD

[surreal oasis]

i think im pushing this game to a satisfaction level i cant achieve

[feral geyser]

There's a mod that lets you choose Lego Bionicle helmets.

[warm phoenix]

so i cant do 3 station line or i must make it circle?

[silk ocean]

Surely you can have as many stations as you like? Maybe need to branch them off the mainline

[steep creek]

so are you making it single track straight through all the stations and no turn arounds at the ends?

[cloud shore]

Probably gets asked a lot, but best site to host a dedicated server?

[warm phoenix]

i thought i can do that if i put train head on both ends

[steep creek]

yes you can i was just asking how you are doing it

so do you want the train to stop at the middle station on both ways or just one way?

[warm phoenix]

go back and forth

[steep creek]

so would you like the train to call at the middle station on both ways then?

[hearty gate]

Is there a way to port over blueprints from one save to another? Ie from one run to another. Or a way to have a set available for all runs?

@warm phoenix put a loco at each end and have 3 stations in the same run route. Should work

[steep creek]

i mean i dont usually make train lines with more than 2 stations on it so i wouldnt know

[cunning glade]

Wait what

[warm phoenix]

i did that and now it gives "cannot reach station" when track are connected and manually drive just fine

[steep creek]

how are the train stations orientated?

[boreal musk]

your station is backward

[warm phoenix]

do i need to put 2 station in middle one?

[boreal musk]

iirc the devs planned to bring rain back to the game since it was disabled in update 8

[ripe basin]

Good day my guys

[cunning glade]

Oh I see

I would love weather icaurs has really good weather system and sounds makes it a a great game

[silk ocean]

Lightning storms xD

[feral geyser]

I want new critter types

I'm too used to fighting these 4 enemies.

[warm phoenix]

why does train station has concept of "placed backwards"

i dont get it

[hard ivy]

because it's one way?

[warm phoenix]

single line train doesnt necessarily mean "only go in one direction"

[hard ivy]

the station itself is one way

[warm phoenix]

i want to go both way with one track, is that too much to ask for

[split ravine]

only have 30 hours but why are the only threats the large spiders

[cunning glade]

Okay here's the plan tho I build the factory by the new resources and I just train plastic over for them and then I train the computers around as needed I don't think it's a bad idea

[hard ivy]

1. you don't want that, trust me
2. regardless, you absolutely can

[warm phoenix]

so WHICH WAY IS THE TRAIN STATION SUPPOSED TO FACE?

[cunning glade]

Bro calm down it ain't that deep

[hard ivy]

the same direction the train is gonna be driving in when approaching to dock

[warm phoenix]

I DID THAT

STILL GAME SAY "NUH UH"

[warm phoenix]

ive been fighting this for like month im going insane

[silk ocean]

The turbo blend powerplant is..... 106.5 GW @hard ivy maybe you were right XD

[split ravine]

did you use blueprints for the rails

[warm phoenix]

blueprints are useless to me

[cunning glade]

There's like a 20 or 30min video explaining trains completely for this game iirc that might help but also blueprints are goated for trains

[split ravine]

that's the only reason for train problems I know of so far since I havent even unlocked them yet

[hard ivy]

about what?

[silk ocean]

When you first said if for power not worth it or similar xD

[hard ivy]

oh, yeah, turbo blend is very meh for power. you would've gotten 80 GW with the same amount of oil with just diluted fuel

[silk ocean]

I regret my life choices xD

[hard ivy]

at least it's better than turbo heavy lmao

[silk ocean]

lol

[hard ivy]

but yeah, if you're burning turbo, it only makes sense to make it with the default recipe

the other 2 are only useful when making turbo for something other than being burned directly

[silk ocean]

Starting to realise that yea

1200/min of oil for 106.5 GW could be worse I suppose

Although it's not really 1200/min due to the smol 2400/min requirement of Heavy Oil Residue

and the Petroleum Coke xD

[coral sundial]

I’m addicted to this

[silk ocean]

Hard not to be xD

[feral inlet]

is there a list of suggested mods on website or something i can look at

[silk ocean]

SMM ?

[feral geyser]

Depends how much overhaul you want. For QoL, I like:
Location&Rotation
Infinite Zoop
CurveBuilder
Cartograph
You could also add Vanilla Greenhouses and grow nutrients, and Automate Inhalers to make use of them.

[feral inlet]

Im a cheater so I want all of it haha

And who doesn't like QOL

I mean to use mods is cheating no matter how you slice it so

[feral geyser]

I argue not

[feral inlet]

You are breaking the games design ... so ya

[feral geyser]

Counting L&R as cheating would take quite a bit of mental gymnastics.

[feral inlet]

But anyways semantics at this point

its pretty moot .. Im sorry I even said that ... lets move on... that was my fault

[feral geyser]

Anyway, go cheat elsewhere, apparently, this isn't the modded server.

[feral inlet]

Oh snap ... I didn't realize my bad

I thoguht I was in the mod server ... derp

I appreciate you giving me a answer anyways

[silk ocean]

Not entirely convinced there is really a concept of "cheating" as such in a sandbox factory builder but yea, modding doesn't seem to appeal to me, at least at the moment

[feral inlet]

I will c my way out

[silk ocean]

I suppose not technically sandbox until endgame

[red sun]

something is only cheating if you consider it cheating if you ask me

i'd consider that power daisy chaining mod cheating, but if someone else wants to use it then go for it

if it's more fun for you that way, that's all that matters

at least in a game like this. if it was some online competitive game then sure, but it's not

[silk ocean]

Fun is what really matters at the end of the day would agree

[mortal ginkgo]

anything that gives you advantage outside of what game allows in player vs player is cheating.

other than that, just yolo

who cares if you put foundation for free 😛

[red sun]

cheating isn't inherently bad

it can be, but it's not bad by default

[feral geyser]

What's a scenario where cheating (the definition given above by Unreal) isn't bad?

[silk ocean]

All that mods do imo is change the rules, if everybody is bound by the same rules then fair's fair I think

[red sun]

in a single player game like this. as i said, i consider daisy-chaining power cheating but it's not bad

if it's in an online competitive game, then yes, nine times out of ten it would be bad

[feral geyser]

This is not a PvP game, so doesn't fit the definition

[red sun]

my definition of cheating is slightly different

[feral geyser]

I stated which definition to use, cuz you haven't said yours.

[mortal ginkgo]

I would say its a "lack of QoL" that fixes the issue forces people's hand.

We got weird alien tech yet still use silly cables to transfer power.

[red sun]

using unreal's definition then - say there's a weapon skin for example that requires a ton of grinding to obtain. if you cheat your way to getting it, provided it doesn't step on anyone else's toes, you're not hurting anyone

say, duping materials for it

or whatever

anyway this is more offtopic territory

[wicked bolt]

Quick question. Is it possible if you have the game on steam and play with someone on epic (when the game is hosted by the player who has the game on steam). When I try to set the session type to epic it says that I need to login to epic online services, but in my epic games launcher I am logged in. what am I missing?

[willow glen]

I’m just not a fan of when cheats affect me. I’ve played around with infinite lives and ammo in other games enough to know that if I do that, I’ll never finish the game because I removed all challenge and reward.
But your single player game doesn’t affect me. You do you

[feral geyser]

Log out and log in again

Sometimes it does that

[wicked bolt]

in steam or epic?

[feral geyser]

Epic

[wicked bolt]

hmm but I just logged in, but I'll try

but using the epic setting is correct right? even if you have the game on steam?

[coral sundial]

How do yall scale production if each iron mine is only producing 60 per minute

[azure cedar]

I’m a train newbie, is it worth trying to build trains before I have computers??

I can’t mentally figure out how I need to design my train station and have it go off in 3 directions from a double straight rail

[coral sundial]

I need like so many more mines if that is all I get max from a line

[feral geyser]

Either way is fine. You can send the session ID and they can join directly

[azure cedar]

You build at a new location with higher level miners, or overlocking a miner with snails

[hard ivy]

Get more nodes.

[unkempt blade]

yeah and more factory carts too!

[coral sundial]

Nodes?

[hard ivy]

Get better miners, better belts, overclock miners

[silk ocean]

As you progress you'll get more advanced miners and belts

[coral sundial]

Oh ok I guess later one

Should I rebuild my whole factory or upgrade it?

Once I get better parts

[hard ivy]

Resource nodes. It's what they're called in this game

[azure cedar]

I recommend leaving it as, and starting a new factory else where

[wicked bolt]

I tried using steam, but my friend wasn't able to join and epic doen't work. It sais that I need to login to epic online services

[unkempt blade]

you just need to put like 200 portable miners on the same node and hand-feed your overscaled production setup for now

[feral geyser]

Bruh

Slimes? Where?

[coral sundial]

My level 2 belts are full

120 on them

[feral geyser]

I love me some slimes

But I don't think they exist in this game

[unkempt blade]

the only ones I've found are way in the bottom of the pit in the middle of the map 🙁

[feral geyser]

Then I am not sure

I do love me some slimes

But again

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-i-dont-think-they-dont-exist-wesley-and-buttercup-the-princess-bride-gif-13835808

Ah f, gifs don't show, I forgot 😭

Brother

You have been saying slimes in place of slugs this entire time.

[devout solstice]

i really want liguids to be fixed

i even pumping extra water and im still getting nothing

[mortal ginkgo]

show some screenshots in #1038092680493801533 , otherwise sometimes redoing the problematic pipe works

alas pipes are the weakest point of this game

[steady glade]

sounds like a skill issue but go off i guess

[limpid cairn]

whats the shortcut to mark something on the map

without using the map

[steady glade]

alt

its more of a ping than a mark

[limpid cairn]

thx

thought its more like in other games where you can mark stuff on the map without using it

[red sun]

there used to be beacons but they were replaced by the markers that you place down via the map now

you'd physically put them down

[mortal ginkgo]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1g0gyco/til_you_can_add_map_stamps_without_opening_the_map/

[limpid cairn]

thx

[coral sundial]

How do I find a good place to build

[steady glade]

with your eyes and scanner

[wicked bolt]

@feral geyser broo, I found it out, this is definately something they need to improve... You just need to go on Online Settings in the main menu and click on log in to epic... Why don't they write that in the session settings if its not working

like wtf is that I easily spent half an hour to fix it and it was literally just one button I needed to press

[willow glen]

At the start: build where you land. It’s got everything you need to get started. There isn’t a “secret best start”.
Phase 2: scan, pick whatever’s closest, note if what you need is nearby (coal nearby water for power, for example).
Phase 3 and onward: at this point you have the ability to scan the whole map, so either do that or map look with SCIM. Note that all aluminum nodes have at least 1 thing you gotta import, trains are great for that!

[coral sundial]

I have my coal on a long belt to my water area

I jsut unlocked steel

[willow glen]

Nothing wrong with that, but there is coal specifically next to water at all 4 starts

[ripe basin]

Good evening guys

[formal ingot]

I'm live on tt Droidwt if anyone wanna watch

[coral sundial]

No where near mine

[iron patio]

anyone know how to get concrete walls as white as foundations? i upped the saturation to 1000 and they almost look like theyre the default gray

[limpid cairn]

how good are the leeched recipes (ore + sulfuric acid)

[ripe basin]

Pure is better IMO

[limpid cairn]

im using pure rn but im considering going over to leeched since its like 3x the amount of the pure recipe

nvm

you get less ingots per ore

its only good for iron ingots

[hard ivy]

Leached caterium is decent but the other 2 are very meh

They don't even save that many machines because you have to make the acid too instead of just pumping water

[limpid cairn]

its not about the space its about the output

[hard ivy]

Why would the output rate matter if not to save space?

[limpid cairn]

because space is somewhat infinite

[hard ivy]

Yeah, that's what I'm asking. If you don't care about space, why would you care about the output rate

If it's slow, you just build more machines

[limpid cairn]

its not slow i just want more ingots per ore

[split ravine]

how about snails

[silk ocean]

You can get an alt recipe to make shards

(late game)

[hard ivy]

Leached Caterium makes more, the other make basically the same amount. One a little less, one a little more, but the difference is negligible

Leached iron makes 7.7% more ingots per ore than pure

I wouldn't bother getting sulfur for that

[silk ocean]

Always seems to take me by surprise how many Crystal Oscillators I seem to always need

[feral geyser]

Leached (iron specifically) makes more and makes them faster, so double whammy.

[hard ivy]

but it uses sulfur and the fact that it makes them faster doesn't matter much when you need extra refineries for the acid

[feral geyser]

But considering all the other things sulfuric is good for, you should probably just make a sulfuric acid factory when you find a good clump of veins anyway

[hard ivy]

I use efficient recipes to save myself the logistics of transporting resources and building extra machines

[feral geyser]

Instant scrap, leached cat, nuclear processing, etc.

[hard ivy]

that's what I'd consider an ✨awful idea✨

[feral geyser]

That's why you are bad at this game.

(Joke)

(Not meant seriously)

[silk ocean]

That award is reserved for me

[hard ivy]

why tf would you transport acid when it's made 1:1 from sulfur and it's a liquid

[feral geyser]

Who said anything about transporting acid?

Re-read it, I didn't

[bronze dagger]

gases are easier to handle right

[hard ivy]

I'm sorry but i'm not building all that in one location specifically chosen only for its sulfur availability

[feral geyser]

No one said build it all in one spot.

[bronze dagger]

plus the ease of getting raw ores to factories makes this a non issue methinks

[hard ivy]

you did?

[feral geyser]

Did I say build a factory where you find a good clump, or did I say when?

[toxic spoke]

Yall I got a top 3 Satisfactory flex of all time.... Posted it in the screenshots chat

[feral geyser]

Cuz you can transport the sulfur to a more central site and make acids there too.

Notice the original is not edited

Exactly

[hard ivy]

I am still not building everything acid is used for in one location, nor am I pre-building acid that I will or will not fully use

[feral geyser]

Your call for your play style

[limpid cairn]

yes

[feral geyser]

I never have issues with fluids, and there is a ton of ores around my sulfuric factory anyway, so I do do that

[hard ivy]

I would consider using leached if I needed sulfur for something else anyway, and the extra sulfur needed wouldn't require much extra logistics

[feral geyser]

Bauxite and quartz are the only things that I had to use trains to bring in, and it was so worth it.

In fact, the instant scrap is so lucrative, that the quartz i brought can't keep up with the silica demand sometimes, even with 12 blenders distilling it.

[molten lintel]

https://youtube.com/shorts/eYMYVf_OqI0?si=k8iaNLlO7zt2_7XH

[bronze dagger]

fluids don't cause issue as long as the math is perfect. but incosistencies in literally anything break them

[mild flicker]

got the game recently and dam, it is fun but for real i may need some help in the future or even the next time im gona be able to play it, just unlocked the coal generetor but i swear the map is not helping me and need to fix the way my entire "base" is made (is an hell of an mess), so if you guys have any suggestions, gona accept them very gladly

[hard ivy]

Maybe because as far as silica production is concerned, distilled silica is worse than cheap

[feral geyser]

Is it really, if you also need a ton of crystals too?

I'm doing it primarily so I can double dip.

[hard ivy]

No, if you actually use all of the output of distillation, then that's more efficient than cheap silica + pure crystal.

But if you're sinking some of the output, it becomes less efficient

[feral geyser]

Also, that would require excessive amounts of limestone, to do cheap

[feral geyser]

Well, I do, so 🤷‍♂️

Again, this seems like a case of you trying to prescribe what is "best", when the game gives us lots of options for a reason.

[native tapir]

Hello Satisfactory Community.

I found a novel way to label my buildings that I have never seen before. I hope it is okay that I shared it in your design and architecture subreddit.

Hope this helps.

-Doug

[feral geyser]

Wow, not gonna share it here?? 😒

#design-and-architecture

[native tapir]

Hello, that is the discord subreddit I just shared it in

Thanks
-Doug

[feral geyser]

So discord and reddit are two different platforms.

[native tapir]

Ah well. Thanks for the tip. Let me know what you think of my labelling system. -Doug

[rustic hare]

lmao

[silk ocean]

That's crazy XD

That wall could compute a bitcoin xD

[white dawn]

#design-and-architecture is already a discussion channel, btw. If you post something in there, you don't need to also post about it in here (and in fact shouldn't also post it in here)

No point in having separate channels if the same content is posted in multiple

[native tapir]

Hello apocalyptech, I was hoping to discuss my new labelling system

[ripe basin]

Hey there the guy that talks a lot

[native tapir]

Hello

[white dawn]

Sure, go for it. My point was that if you've already posted about it in #design-and-architecture , don't also post about it in here

[silk ocean]

I'm confused about the whole labeling system thing - I see thousands of computers but what about the labels?

[white dawn]

Spamming the same message across multiple channels is, well, spamming.

[native tapir]

I am moving this over to the design subreddit now. Thanks for the tip. -Doug

[silk ocean]

This is Discord not Reddit xD

[native tapir]

That makes sense

[ripe basin]

It is called channel, not subreddit

[mortal ginkgo]

Leave Doug alone, he posts like 2 times per month.

[ripe basin]

I mean no offence

[mortal ginkgo]

oh it wasn't targeted to you brother

[ripe basin]

We touched the same game. We are now brothers.

[silk ocean]

I'm just interested to know what about the labeling system

[green fiber]

That "labeling system" is what I feel like happens when you take the "hmm yes the floor here is made out of floor" meme to its logical conclusion

[feral geyser]

It is labeled that it makes computers by the fact that its walls are computers

[native tapir]

Yes

[silk ocean]

I see now xD

Could be tricky with some items lol

[mortal ginkgo]

ok but what if it was misleading? what if he was making supercomputers and the walls were simple computers?

how do we trust him?

We know that we can trust signs and what they say, but walls?

I dont know brothersmen.

[feral geyser]

You guys trust signs?

I don't trust anything since I learned about painting wall holes in Minecraft.

[mortal ginkgo]

Your signs lie to you? Wow. Must be a Hardcore Difficulty DLC.

[silk ocean]

Reddit seems to like it

[native tapir]

The satisfactory discord on Reddit is a good community.

[silk ocean]

It is actually yes

[native tapir]

Yes

[ripe basin]

I need to go for a moment, there's some connection problems in my region

[mortal ginkgo]

To be ultra fair Reddit of Satisfactory is starting to feel meh to scroll as 95% of the shared images are about 3245098305830 amount of fuel gens over a floating 1m thick foundation in the sky

[uncut trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1411782229872345317/image.png?ex=68b5e829&is=68b496a9&hm=e1a1c2c1a68b58eae909a50848592103b11e6ce369eb35733efdb2a5b7edd61d&, did i waste my time setting up 120 coal gens for 9gw?

[undone kestrel]

Yes

[mortal ginkgo]

you could say that, yes.

[steady glade]

in a sense, you mght be able to salvage most of it once you set it up the best way

[native tapir]

The only problem with the satisfactory channel on Reddit is that they do not give me good advice. They are textbook jokesters. Yesterday they would not help me hide the entrance to my secret underwater water packaging facility

[mortal ginkgo]

you could easily get to fuel gens with 1.2GW. Or if you got some big setups, 2.4GW.

[native tapir]

It was all jokes with those guys. Can anybody her help me? I will post the facility again in design. I am sorry architect

Thanks
-Doug

[undone kestrel]

Think the largest coal setup i've done is circa 4 gw and it was far too much

[silk ocean]

It's quite relaxed / casual / jokey in the subreddit, but it's a nice community at least. Some subs are pretty hostile I find

[uncut trail]

i found really nice place with 3 pure nodes and lake, had that urge

[willow glen]

I mean, I like it, I got a friend who always must build big so I’ve had to build power plants like that for him. If ya need it, ya need it

[mortal ginkgo]

I would use dem coals for steel production

[tired wedge]

Does anyone know if there are any plans for steam invites for private sessions?

[silk ocean]

Did you ever find a way to hide the secret entrance Doug?

[uncut trail]

building this shit was expensive

and took around2-3h

[steady glade]

go get some hard drives, one of them will make it worthwhile

[native tapir]

Please go look at the other "channel" on the design subreddit. (Sorry architect I am trying to move this over there but it is like herding cats)

[silk ocean]

Don't worry I just finished a 4-day powerplant build xD

[steady glade]

although that spot is kind of unfortunate

[uncut trail]

thx for reminding i have some

[steady glade]

find a recipe that better uses your coal gens

[hard ivy]

basically the only thing I use coal for is turbo diamonds lmao

[steady glade]

early game player

[hard ivy]

oh, I am aware

but since 1.0, coal isn't needed much

coal power, steel beams for mk3 belts and railways, and that could be it for some people

[stark summit]

I always try to run coal out of my models

[steady glade]

obviously 120 coal gens is od but those remain the better power source for phase 2/early phase 3

[stark summit]

just one less thing to worry about.

[uncut trail]

im getting every fucking recipe on face of this planet instead of ones i want

[hard ivy]

maybe you should want more recipes then lol

[lime ermine]

Diamonds?

[hard ivy]

oil diamonds - no coal

[lime ermine]

Forgot about that one

[steady glade]

sometime i spend 15-30m praying to god that my "first" re-roll gives me what i want

[lime ermine]

I like turbo diamonds

[lime ermine]

I sometimes will be cheeky and reload a save until the hard drive reload gives me what I want

[steady glade]

thats what we're not supposed to talk about here

[hard ivy]

I do too. but oil diamonds is good too so it's not like it's a stupid idea to make diamonds without coal

[torn blaze]

where's the best place to start building nuclear power

[steady glade]

bamboo forsest is neat

but you probably wanna go at sea for space

[hard ivy]

depends on the size. for a relatively small plant, I'd say western half of the swamp. for a big one, I'd choose the northwestern ocean

[steady glade]

or waay up

[dim flint]

Wait... is it possible to have a train not fill up all cars at a stop? I need it to only fill one car so the other two can be filled afterwards.

[torn blaze]

ok tysm guys !!

[hard ivy]

empty platforms

[dim flint]

No, I need other trains at the same station to fill all cars.

I swear I read about assigning cars spesfic items somewhere...

[hard ivy]

then no. unless each platform has a different item, then you could use filters

[steady glade]

set up the timetable if the other platforms have different items

[dim flint]

I have two stations in question. One is all four oil. The other is three, one for coal, one for sulfur and one empty. I would like to have a new train which fills up it's last car with oil, then goes and picks up the coal/sulfur.

I'm not sure where the filters are.

[hard ivy]

in the timetable stop settings

[dim flint]

Ah! there'

Ah shit, it's a filter for the whole train though!

Not per car.

My beautiful design is ruined. I hate this.

[hard ivy]

meanwhile, I never use empty platforms or filters lol

1 train per item type, and each train has only 2 stops

[dim flint]

Just helps minimize the number of stations.

[ripe basin]

I'm back

[dim flint]

But the game lacks basic support to make it really feasible.

So to salvage this I guess I'll be running trains with 3 engines to fill up the space so things line up.

Gross.

[shy mulch]

The solution to that is to change the order, pick up the coal and sulfur first, then go fill all remaining space with oil

[dim flint]

I could also do that in this case, but then I should really have built this station on the other side of the damn tracks.

I guess I can fix that later.

[shy mulch]

Why does it matter what side is it on?

[peak wasp]

my dad was from there, mum is greek

[simple lodge]

just wanna ask. Someone know or use quizlet?

[solid storm]

Is there a reason why some of these big mushrooms can not be highlighted to be cut down? #screenshots message

[stray field]

Is satisfactory on steam?

OK thanks @hard ivy

[outer moss]

Nice, are you fluent in both languages?

[peak wasp]

on sale iirc

[stray field]

I don't play steam I was js wondering
I'm waiting for it to come to ps

[peak wasp]

ew console

[peak wasp]

no, just birth parents I don't know them

[leaden turret]

February 13th, 2024 Livestream
Q&A: Are there going to be any more destructible items on the map?
https://youtu.be/wK-DRyFtyTI

[stray field]

If I go on ps5 browser then on steam and buy satisfactory can I play it on console?

When is satisfactory getting added to console?

[outer moss]

wdym

[peak wasp]

I only have my birth certificate

[outer moss]

what happened to them?

[distant pulsar]

Mi bombaaaaaa

[distant pulsar]

western ocean

[distant pulsar]

he's an orphan like Lord Voldemort duh

[placid valley]

For my piece of mind (and to save me from being buried in pipes) can 4 water extractors feed into 8 coal gens with mk1 pipes nicely?

[distant pulsar]

3 to 8

[distant pulsar]

!wikisearch cg

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[placid valley]

I know the 3:8 ratio just have 48 gens and 16 extractors so 4:8 would look nicer...

[distant pulsar]

4 to 8 is fine yes if you'd like

[wicked nacelle]

and if you underclock you actually save a little bit of power -- and it's just 4x 1:2. No reason to think of it as 4:8

[jovial zinc]

Are there power shards on the hound to pick up I suddenly saw I have 85 of them and I have not turned that many slugs into shards?

[willow glen]

Yellow and purple slugs give more than 1 shard

[jovial zinc]

Yeah but. I haven’t turned any into shards in a few days since. I’m saving for slooping and last I checked I had 30 at most

[crisp barn]

I do not understand fluids in this game Im gonna go insane

I have a refinery that produces 40 fuel/m

which outputs a pipe and 2 fuel generators

for whichever reason, only one is receiving fuel

its using a simple pipe junction

[feral geyser]

Are your pipes full or empty?

[crisp barn]

neither

[feral geyser]

Disconnect the gens until your pipes fill, then try it again.

Also pay attention to headlift

[neon summit]

perfection, 129MW of max consumption and 130 MW capacity.

[placid valley]

Better hope a machine doesn't suddenly turn on lol...

[neon summit]

the max consumption is under the capacity so that shouldnt be a problem

[limpid cairn]

guys why do people always use the cloudy diamonds alt when the crystal diamond recipe gives more diamonds per coal?

[jade frigate]

Is there an autorun / autowalk in game?

[hard ivy]

who tf uses cloudy diamonds?

[limpid cairn]

i saw someone using them

[feral geyser]

I use pink diamonds

Cuz again, excess of crystal

[solid storm]

Thanks....had to research sulfer, which I hadn't done yet.

[limpid cairn]

is there even a important recipe that needs crystal

[hard ivy]

crystal oscillators

[feral geyser]

Signs 😂

Shatter rebar

[limpid cairn]

good point, but even then, they only need 18 per min

[placid valley]

I really hate having to hit a bean giraffe thingy when I'm building cause they are in the way. 🙁

[limpid cairn]

with pure quartz youre making 0.7 quartz crystals per quartz and with quartz purification youre making 0.625 quartz crystals per quartz

[limpid cairn]

why not kill them instead?

so you only have to fix that problem only once

[leaden turret]

if they run away you can corral them.
if they die, they can respawn and then you have the problem all over again.

[placid valley]

Also they are kind of hard to kill no? At least compared to other critters

[leaden turret]

[limpid cairn]

they have 200 hp

[placid valley]

I mean, with enough explosives anything is killable lol

[limpid cairn]

the ficsit pioneer would still survive if they had the Blade Runners equiped

[small notch]

Hello

[paper panther]

what is the average ttp in satisfactory?

[shy fog]

that's negative minutes Unidentified if you ever see the toxic cloud generators

might be negative years now because the game has been in development for so long

[small notch]

I’m not quite sure what to do I have just finished coal power and have about 500 mw of power available but idk I should just work towards phase 2 or setup crucial rescources

[shy fog]

coal is a good start, but if you don't need more power then it's time to plan for your journey to oil

[paper panther]

speedrun getting the jetpack

jetpack alone saves you hours

[small notch]

I haven’t unlocked oil and idk how to get jet pack

[paper panther]

in oil tier

[mild flicker]

yo were i can ask for some suggestions? i need some for some coal plant making and mabye even something else

[shy fog]

there be a ratio for coal

[paper panther]

its 15 coal per gen uno

[true mulch]

HAHAHAHAHA they made assembler alts actually require assemblers

[shy fog]

hey ondar, you remember the bot call for the coal generator setup?

[true mulch]

I scanned the two drives I found before unlocking that and got a drive with cast screws/+6 inventory and another with iron wire and nothing else

[true mulch]

!wikisearch CG

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=CG

[placid valley]

120 coal with feed 8 gens, they will need 45 water each. The tricky party is managing mk1 pipes as they can only hold 300 and you'll need 360

[shy fog]

it's not tricky at all

[placid valley]

I mean... it is if you're new to the game lol

[limpid cairn]

remove the mk1 part, managing pipes in general is tricky

[mild flicker]

ok never mind people as i didn't ask, my bad......

[paper panther]

well since you already gonna need 2 pipes just put 180 in both of them

[limpid cairn]

just overclock 2 water extractors fully and connect 1 pipe lines to one each

[true mulch]

don't be butthurt after not getting replied to in 3 minutes bruh
make a #1038092680493801533 thread

[small notch]

Or 2 normal extractors down one side and one down the other

[shy fog]

most people don't have overclocked water extractors when just starting coal

[mild flicker]

ty and im sorry im just sleppy and my mod is not the best im sorry....but ty

[shy fog]

be a chill, take a nap, factory will be there when you return

[small notch]

Yh I’ve only just gotten coal and I’m limited on power shards and without access to the synthetic ones it’s js better to use normal extractors imo

[shy fog]

I kinda... just skip coal

and oil

I went straight to alien

[small notch]

You used biomass until you unlocked alien?

[shy fog]

... then I built my space elevator...

[mild flicker]

how can you skip coal if you need them to make steal? you use biomas until then??? crazy

[shy fog]

nope, not even biomass

[mild flicker]

Hope and Dreams?

[shy fog]

alien power!

because I'm a lunatic

[small notch]

The lead up to alien power how does one have the will

[mild flicker]

so you are telling me that by serching the alien teck i can get oil right?

[small notch]

Hand crafting and portable miners??

[shy fog]

no hand crafting either after I get the M.A.M.

[small notch]

bro what

[shy fog]

it's not HARD... just stupidity to it's maximum

[mild flicker]

well i know what to do now.....alien teck will be discovered if i will able too

[small notch]

I can do alien tech if I want is it worth it

[shy fog]

let me see... where's my starting screenshot...

for my doubters: #screenshots message

[mild flicker]

my place is so bad in all of it ways that you have no idea that im actually starting to reconsidereting my choiches on this game i swear

[shy fog]

rule #1 of the factory, make it work, no matter how inefficient

[small notch]

I just kinda have a huge platform in the sky but I’m just like jumping over conveyors and stuff

[shy fog]

rule #2 of the factory, now matter how much of a mess it is, it's your mess

rule #3 of the factory do not invoke Josh have fun

[small notch]

And then overclock everything to make it somewhat good

[shy fog]

overclocking is optional, but nice

[mild flicker]

go look the one i send in there

[small notch]

Doesn’t the alien tech power give like 500 mw per one

[shy fog]

hey we start in the same area 😛

[mild flicker]

im actually start to think to demolish my enitre base to the gorund and remake it to the bottom up

[shy fog]

demolish only the factory bits, not the power, and rebuild from the top down just to be crazy

[mild flicker]

ah....my base is like at least 1km away from were those coal extractor are so you know the are a bit far

[wind oracle]

what do you guys think I should start with in tier 7/8, after setting up aluminum? kinda indecisive just cause of how much the game opens up

[shy fog]

uɐᴉlɐɹʇsnɐ uᴉ ƃuᴉdʎʇ ǝʞᴉl

[wind oracle]

my last run pre-1.0 also got to this point and then I just didn't know what to do next

[small notch]

Should I js delete my coal and get alien tech

Or keep it rather and get alien

Might aswell keep polluting the planet with the coal gen fumes

[shy fog]

use coal until oil, use oil until nuclear, use alien for fun

[mild flicker]

you should see the rest of the crap i build then you would be scared to the bone.......before doing so i really would need some peole to help me out reorganize everything and mabye with better efficency and placement

[small notch]

How much power alien give???

[shy fog]

Uno... did you see the steam page? I have seen Josh builds.

EVERYONE has seen Josh builds

like... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-qqgRjfo3s

if you can manage to top the nuclear tornado conveyer belts we'd be impressed

[mild flicker]

well i'll ketch up with you guys tommorow need to sleep, tommorow is job day so better get some sleep, ty arty for the advice, and in case may i contant you in the future for some help? ty and good night

[shy fog]

if I'm at keyboard I'm always down to do stupid things in satisfactory

[willow glen]

The Alien Power Augmenter is what I assume you mean, it’s 500MW plus 10% of your current grid.
Keep in mind 2 fuel powered generators also generate 500MW, so it’s a terrible investment just for the base power. It’s best used once you have 10GW or more imo

[small notch]

Well I’m only at coal but I can probably afford to make alien power and 500 mw would help a lot

[willow glen]

Then it’s pretty unlikely you can even research it, let alone build it. You need plastic for computers, which requires the very oil I recommended instead.

[shy fog]

Lumi? I already did

as in #screenshots message very stupidly started it before building the space elevator

[hard ivy]

I mean you can just find the components needed to unlock and build one

[small notch]

I do have like 60 computers idk if it’ll be enough I’ll have a look when I’m on to do it if not then I’ll just have to pollute more and build more coal gens

[willow glen]

I wouldn’t abandon oil for nuclear tbh. If that’s what you’re referring to.

[shy fog]

I abandoned power for alien

[willow glen]

ok?

you’re gonna need a lot more than 500MW

[shy fog]

so it's not only possible to skip even biomass, but you can cut straight to alien and have it working

[willow glen]

crash site exploration before jetpack? Nah count me out, that’s no fun. Build big factory

[shy fog]

all I need is the foundations and a bit of insanity

and I'm well stocked on insanity

[willow glen]

in any case yeah, we agree, it’s unlikely youd have the components necessary. Not impossible lol

[smoky forge]

yeah jetpack is a must, including the leg thingys ofc

honestly with normal fuel its also a bit of a pain but its acceptable

[shy fog]

it's still 100% doable

[smoky forge]

we dont go from that pesrpective

[hard ivy]

just use lbf instead

[smoky forge]

"doable" means speedruns are easy af

[smoky forge]

lbf?

[hard ivy]

regular fuel in the jetpack is awful

[shy fog]

90% of speedrun is just practice

[smoky forge]

i agree

[hard ivy]

liquid biofuel

[smoky forge]

but that has like 0 lift

[hard ivy]

more than fuel lol

or the same i don't remember

[smoky forge]

wait what

[shy fog]

anyways, back to finishing phase 3

[hard ivy]

at least in terms of speed

it has a lot more height

[smoky forge]

eh ill just got to TF

[willow glen]

I used to be big turbofuel fan, but i tested the max height you can get to with turbofuel and liquid biofuel in a jetpack, and they’re the exact same. Lbf just lasts longer, which imo is an advantage for horizontal travel.

[hard ivy]

lbf still gives more height

[smoky forge]

TF and liquit BF is the same lift?

[hard ivy]

and it lasts much longer so it's much better for building

[smoky forge]

yeah ik that

[willow glen]

same max height, different amount of thrust and burn rate.

[smoky forge]

hmmmm, so realy the next best thing is rocket fuel

wich imma get in phase 4

[willow glen]

rocket fuel makes hovering difficult but it’s better than turbofuel in every way

[smoky forge]

so like right now lol

[smoky forge]

theres the hoverpack lol, i primarly only use the normal jetpack for exploring or for lift

nothing else realy

[willow glen]

The hover pack requires power and resets momentum so it’s not so great for distance travel, but it’s great for construction tasks.

[smoky forge]

yeah exactly, and i dont "travel distances" with anything but a cannon

means normal jetpack to brace my fall

[willow glen]

How do you get back? I assume you don’t have factories everywhere in the world yet, do you build temporary cannons everywhere?

[smoky forge]

blueprint

hypertube cannon

3 bio burners

half way around the map with just little resorces

and when i pop out of the cannon i instandly dismantle it when looking back

[willow glen]

not a bad idea but I’m so addicted to slide jumping and trains that hypercannons slow my roll. I don’t plan for open spaces so I will always cover it up and be forced to move it, etc.

[smoky forge]

yes slide jumping is extremly good, but it has like 2 flaws

[hard ivy]

you need a pump when you run out of head lift

[smoky forge]

1, you need a good host if its on a multiplayer

[willow glen]

if it’s vertical then yes the pump needs to be on that pipe or before it. The amount in the pipe will tell you the max height too, but it’s relative to the pipe length which can be hard to trace.

[smoky forge]

2. you need a flat ground
   and 3. it has a speed limit

doesnt matter, lift up is lift up

[willow glen]

it’s all about vertical distance yup

[smoky forge]

even if it gets transported upwards only after 100 meters of a straight line of pipe

gravity

its a thing with liquids

[willow glen]

It doesn’t! That’s the great part. But pumps will tell you what lift they’re currently giving, which can help

[smoky forge]

not with gasses tho so dont waste pumps there

i assume you are like phase 2 or 3

gasses will get to you at phase 4

yep, but just so that yk, an unpowered pump resets headlift

[hard ivy]

you need a pump whenever you run out of head lift. period

[smoky forge]

if the flow rate keeps a consistent number

and the liquid is going ot its destined point then yes

[willow glen]

If the system is working as intended, then you don’t need any more pumps. Doesn’t matter what the pipes say. Flow rates being constant or fluctuating is irrelevant, what’s relevant is no machine is backed up or starved (unless you wanted it that way).
If it’s not working, then you can trace where the liquid is stopping by using a pump.

[smoky forge]

im bad at geting my toughts perfectly to text but thats basicaly what i wanted to say

and its 0 am for me

so cya guys

[limpid cairn]

0 am...?

why are there cows outside of my factory guys

why are they dancing

[smoky forge]

ma man

its funny bc i live at a dairy farm

AND THEY NEVER DANCE

[primal flax]

is 300 ficsite trigon/min enough for endgame

the numbers are nice

[willow glen]

my endgame factory uses like 270, and finishes phase 5 in 200 minutes (once spun up).
Only thing it’s not enough for is ficsonium tbh, which I’d just recommend avoiding unless you’re dead set on it

[primal flax]

@willow glen i havent even touched nuclear yet, id like too but dont know if its worth it

[hard ivy]

in terms of effort per MW produced, probably not

[primal flax]

dont know if i just want to finish phase 5 or automate eveything

currently got 600 turbofuel in 80 generators and can upgrade that too rocket fuel easily

[peak wasp]

just unlocked turbo fuel.
cool that you can package and unpackage normal fuel

[blissful summit]

fine concrete or fused wire

[hard ivy]

I wouldn't take either

[blissful summit]

well that is what the reroll got

better than biocoal atleast

[coral sundial]

is it dumb to run a power like like 1000m?

[hard ivy]

don't take or reroll any recipes you don't want

if they stay in the library, you won't get them in next drive scans

[coral sundial]

how can i clear a forest to build there

[mystic island]

Hey guys. Do you like to build pillars and other structure things in your factories or go with floating bases?

[willow glen]

In my order of preference (best last): Chainsaw, nobelisk, explosive rebar, cluster nobelisk

[hard ivy]

nukes?

[daring idol]

This is an old question, probably, but as impractical as it is, would running conveyors from every node on the map to one spot introduce far more performance/fps issues than using trains?

My thinking is that nodes always produce an infinite amount at a set rate by the miner. A train isn't going to increase it, only potentially bottleneck it. But it would be more performant. A conveyor on the other hand... once stuff finally winds its way thru, would result in the mined-rate, where I want it.

[silk ocean]

I've got 2 power networks on SCIM that seem to have nothing in them, I assume they are lone poles somewhere

[willow glen]

I don’t think so, my reason being the game tracks everything on conveyers, and there would be a lot less items on a train than would be on a belt (for distances over 1-1.5km at least)

[peak wasp]

pillars/walls

[wise junco]

Pillars/walls/etc for sure

[silk ocean]

Is there a cave/tunnel that runs from the north under the central forest?

SCIM would suggest no xD

[plucky rune]

PLEASE SOMEONE HELP ME, THE ONLY WAY IM ABLE TO RUN SATISFACTORY IS IF I USE -vulkan BUT WHEN I USE THAT, I CANT SEE ANYTHING. I CAN HEAR THE MUSIC, AND MY CURSOR ICON CHANGES, BUT I CAN'T SEE THE SCREEN?! AND IF I DON'T USE -vulkan THEN I GET THIS ERROR

ok i cant send the error

[silk ocean]

Which GPU?

[plucky rune]

ima be honest, im new to pc stuff

so idk tbh

[silk ocean]

Go to Task Manager -> Performance tab -> GPU

[signal shale]

"central forest" is kinda big, so we could arrive at different answers to it potentially.

[unkempt blade]

You inspired me to go do a science. I got 34 items on a belt 40m long so somewhere around .85 items per meter as an estimate. If we extend that to 1.5km we'd have 1275 items on that belt which is going to be signficantly less than a single freight car

[silk ocean]

Yea there is one that winds a bit around the east but doesn't go that far

[coral sundial]

I’m so overwhelmed I’m losing interest

[plucky rune]

wait what do i look at

[signal shale]

I will concede there's nothing like the cave of demons up north that goes across half the map though.

[silk ocean]

Top right corner of that tab, should say what it is

[silk ocean]

lol yea I ran railway through that

[plucky rune]

Intel (R) UHD Graphics

i guess...?

[vale grotto]

Oh yeah probably no way this game is gonna run well

[signal shale]

is there enough room for a rail station in that central cave? Huh.

[silk ocean]

Oh not sure if you can run Satisfactory on an iGPU, maybe?

[limpid cairn]

Isn’t it better to run msinfo32 in the windows + r application

[silk ocean]

Probably

[vale grotto]

You can, but iGPUs are so slow that it might just crash out from running at 2 FPS

[plucky rune]

gang im stupid, all i play is hotline miami🙁

[silk ocean]

Which CPU is it in the CPU tab?

[silk ocean]

Hmm yea, it doesn't sound like fun xD

[limpid cairn]

do igpus even get support from graphic apis ?

[plucky rune]

gpu 0

[vale grotto]

They do!!

[willow glen]

Interesting, I still wonder if an item on a conveyer “costs less” than an item in a chest in this case.
Looks like the break even point for raw ore (which was the proposition) is about 1883m.
Still not a good reason to use conveyers instead of trains at 1.5km, but good to know actually. Thanks

[unkempt blade]

I would assume so for gpu load/object count type stuff

[silk ocean]

You definitely don't have a discrete GPU? Not just accidentally plugged it into the motherboard instead?

[limpid cairn]

You’re right it’s supported by vulkan opengl and directx12

[signal shale]

how about shipping coal 500m or so to iron then making steel there before belting the steel to your factory?

[plucky rune]

When i click GPU 1 it says: NVIDIA Geforce RTX 4060 Laptop GPU(forgot to mention im on laptop mb)

[vale grotto]

Some newer iGPUs are surprisingly capable
The newest Ryzen APUs can compete with the likes of the GTX 1050 Ti

[vale grotto]

Oh that card should be MORE than enough to run the game

[silk ocean]

Sounds like one of these laptops where the NVIDIA GPU gets activated when required, otherwise it uses the iGPU

[vale grotto]

Are your driver's updated?

[limpid cairn]

Download the NVIDIA app for that

[plucky rune]

yeah when i dont use -vulkan then i get a GPU crash or smth

[willow glen]

well, some of my factory floors are larger than 500m lol. Really just depends on what’s easier at that distance; it’s probably belt. I usually say train at 1000-1500km

[plucky rune]

yeah

[vale grotto]

Is the game using your dGPU or your iGPU?

[limpid cairn]

Send the crash into a #1038092680493801533 thread

[silk ocean]

Consider installing the latest NVIDIA drivers, see if that helps

[vale grotto]

And then ping me

[limpid cairn]

I’ll ping you Dw

[plucky rune]

alr

[unkempt blade]

Tractors or trucks could also be an option for that. It's pretty close distance to record a route and you could power the vehicles using coal too

...or factory carts of course

[limpid cairn]

First time you’re not promoting factory carts

oh…

[unkempt blade]

I had to build suspense. It called for some drama

[signal shale]

the one time I used trucks was in the dunes to the east because it was basically a straight shot the truck couldn't screw up.

[silk ocean]

There are a lot of roads around the map

[primal flax]

is it a good idea to go and connect geothermal generators to every geyser in the map?

[wise junco]

I personally hate them, but to each their own

[unkempt blade]

Yeah vehicles are pretty fun once you get the route set but the really long routes can be a little tedious sometimes

[silk ocean]

You might get 5 or 6 GW if you connect 15-20, but it's a big job

[wind oracle]

it's a not-insignificant amount of free power if you're lagging behind on that front

[signal shale]

I mean, more power is good, but also... they're intermittent so you'd also have to invest in (more) power banks for it to have any value.

[unkempt blade]

there's really no reason not to if you're already out exploring and have the materials in your depot

[wind oracle]

I'm setting up fuel power now in tier 7 because geysers basically carried my power needs between coal and now

it's a nice chunk of change

[silk ocean]

I feel like geothermal could use a buff

[wise junco]

I feel that the fluctuation in power generation has the capability to mask other problems/inefficiencies in your power grid. It's just a personal vendetta

[primal flax]

lol

[unkempt blade]

just partner geo up with some power storage and it flattens out available power

[wind oracle]

two batteries per pure geyser, one for normal, 0.5 for impure

ez

[reef basin]

*power storages 😉

[tall lantern]

it flattens effective available power, but your grid's still gonna be all jiggly

[primal flax]

im in tier 9 now and didnt even know about geysers

[feral geyser]

Ah, here we go about the damned power storages again...

[unkempt blade]

I mean as long as it looks like a sin wave you still did fine with other power 😄

[wise junco]

I am willing to admit it is overly personal and that most people will get along fine with geyser power

[feral geyser]

And also, those sine waves aren't all in phase, so they flatten themselves out too, as you add them together.

[unkempt blade]

if you don't like the wave though you can move it over to its own power circuit and just use it to keep some water extractors running or something

and then your main circuit looks all nice and flat

[wise junco]

that's not a bad idea

[unkempt blade]

what we really need is hamster wheel turbines for factory carts so we can scale up our renewable power options better

[violet wasp]

Have you worked out this issue?

[hard ivy]

Kinda. They are extremely unlikely to be perfectly in phase, so the amplitude from the fluctuations from 2 geothermals isn't 2x bigger than from 1 geothermal, but on average, it's 27% more. So with more and more geothermals, the fluctuations will increase, just not 1:1

[hollow halo]

Uhhh- would I go to #1201555265942724758 to help me with cleaning up my factory or not?

[eager oar]

I heard you can find out the UObject count in Satisfactory Calculator after loading your save file into the map but I can't seem to find it.

[primal flax]

is drone throughput ever faster than the fastest belt since it only has one input?

[feral geyser]

Something about that doesn't sound quite right. How did you get that figure?

[hard ivy]

Found the formula for the amplitude of a sum of sine waves of different phase, and averaged it over all possible phase differences. Got 4/π, or about 1.27

[hard ivy]

With items stackable to 500, possibly

[frail sleet]

There is one problem, the number of geothermal generators that we have (especially if we don't use all of them) is low enough that peoples results will deviate quite a lot from the average, they won't converge like with the law of large numbers. So one person could experience 1.1x, and another 1.8x if they have two geothermal gens.

It will be closer to the method that you used if there are 10 or 20 of them, but not really exact unless you have hundreds of variable power generators/consumers.

[hybrid nymph]

just updated to windows 11

I made the layout look like windows 10

[floral solar]

do we have embed perms here? wanted to post a video

[frail sleet]

not in this channel, in math and meta etc yes

[hard ivy]

Couldn't be bothered to figure out how it changes with more than 2 gens, because I'd have to apply the formula recursively, plus probably account for different purities. And it's 2 am and I ain't getting out of bed to write a program to do that for me

[hybrid nymph]

Hmm I have a thought

I think I need to disable my manufacturers until I get some more power

[floral solar]

guh links need to be whitelisted?

[true mulch]

what site are you trying to link @floral solar

[hybrid nymph]

what did you guys name your worlds?

[floral solar]

steam

[hybrid nymph]

I named mine "another crap factory", "pig benis" and "sadisfaktory"

[true mulch]

uh... not whitelisted probably

[floral solar]

I have a clip I saved, too big to upload directly

[true mulch]

there's a 100 MB limit

[floral solar]

oh yeah this server is boosted

sorry all

[plain gate]

thanks to the large amount of steam giftcard spammers everywhere

try youtube or imgur or something

[floral solar]

dam nope video file is on my desktop

I give up guys I can assure you the clip is not that important 😭

[true mulch]

?

this channel doesn't have media uploads

what are you trying to share anyway

[floral solar]

no i dont have access to the file anyway

[floral solar]

found some buggy behaviour with rails, where you could make "ladders" with them

[fossil ice]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @true mulch

[true mulch]

you should be able to post the link directly on the site

[hybrid nymph]

holy shit I have enough turbofuel to run 15 fuel generators...

[floral solar]

thanks

[coral sundial]

I killed a bird and i feel bad

[crisp edge]

make this make sense for me. the red question mark is where i was dismantling an assembly line. my current position is where the dismantled objects went to in a dismantle crate. what's the range on dismantling when there's already a crate spawned?

#screenshots message

[atomic notch]

I think theres a setting for the dismantle crates

[peak wasp]

are smart splitters bugged?

[boreal musk]

its supposed to be 100m range limit, but in current version, as long as theres crate, the excess item will go there no matter how far you were

[boreal musk]

bugged as in what?

[peak wasp]

the line is getting clogged and not passing through

[atomic notch]

You gotta set it right

[dense violet]

you've likely set it up wrong

and/or placed it directly on a belt which is always a no no for any splitter

[peak wasp]

i have 4 lined up going north
4. l-x F-any R-rods
3. l-x F-any R-screws
2. l-x F-any R-rods

1. l-x F-any R-screws

[atomic notch]

Hmm

[dense violet]

don't use any, use over flow

[peak wasp]

roger

[shut valley]

sorry if this has been answered elsewhere (or if its stated somewhere and im just dumb) but do generators burn a set amount of fuel or is it variable? ex: if im running a 10mWh gen and a 20mWh gen does the 20mWh gen burn 2x as much fuel?

[atomic notch]

Sushi belts😶

[dense violet]

set fuel per mw

[shut valley]

ty 💖

[dense violet]

and everything except bio burners will burn continuously even if you aren't using all the power

[shut valley]

ahh alr tyty

[peak wasp]

almost finished my first modular factory >_<

[earnest oak]

am i the only one who thinks the chainsaw should give a lot more wood?

[hard ivy]

Hmm, it seems that solutions for 4, 8, 16, ... gens of identical purity are easy, as each doubling of generators multiplies the fluctuations by another 4/π

But analytical solutions for any other number of gens, or for gens of different purity, involve elliptic integrals 😂

[zinc finch]

I wish

[dense violet]

yes

[earnest oak]

breh 8 wood from a tree thats like 100 feet funny

[dense violet]

I guess 1 wood is like 14 ft of wood

[earnest oak]

ficsit really couldnt have better equipment

[peak wasp]

overflow p[uts as screw on the rod line

[dense violet]

if you're doing sushi you need any over flow parts to keep goign into a sink eventually

otherwise it'll clog

like you're having

[shut valley]

another q, is using the chainsaw actually worth? like is it actually a positive trade for fuel spent vs made?

[boreal musk]

4 woods gives 20 biomass which is worth 40 leaves

[dense violet]

I mean sure it'll pop out more fuel. But you really don't need it. Just punch a bunch of bushes

[earnest oak]

that yes 100%

[dense violet]

it's mostly just for clearing areas for building until you get bombs

[boreal musk]

oops wrong reply

[shut valley]

ahhh alright thanks yall :3

[earnest oak]

i used 30 ish solid biofuel and got like 500 wood 2500 leaves

[peak wasp]

I split them apart because it's only going to 2 assemblers, so not using 'any' just specific

[boreal musk]

4 woods is worth 40 leaves, so thats alot

[dense violet]

if you're running a sushi system you will still need to do this, and have overflow to a sink

[peak wasp]

I swee your point now, it got clogged 🙁

[dense violet]

you need overflow to a sink at the end until the whole system is balanced out

[azure cedar]

first time trying trains, do I need to have empty stations if i want a train that has 4 carts to be able to stop there?

[dense violet]

you can remove the sink afterwards

[boreal musk]

1 train station and 4 freight stations

[dense violet]

if you don't want the cars to interact there, yes

[azure cedar]

awesome ty guys

if I only need 2 resources from a train stop, i can assign a train withonly two carts for that specific stop?

[dense violet]

sure?

but if you're trying to do a rail loop that is doing a lot of stops you'll have to be carefull. Each particular won't have that much throughput, and the longer the trip, the more likely it'll reduce the throughput a lot

[atomic notch]

You can do a lot with trains. I got trains that load and unload different resources at the same stop

You can even move 2 different resources on the same cart

As long as its set to unload all lol

[boreal musk]

you can with smart splitter, but isnt recommended if theyre at high throughput

[atomic notch]

Yeah id just do load unload all if i did but its way less efficient than just 2 carts

But it is something you can do if you want

[hybrid nymph]

need to fix my dumb power

[atomic notch]

Lol

More powah

[hybrid nymph]

the dumb trains got glitched so it wasn't delivering compacted coal to make turbofuel

[calm rapids]

is there a way to move storage units without dissasembling?

[hybrid nymph]

best thing you can do if the trains get glitched is deconstruct the station and build it again

[calm rapids]

im trying to transition from spaghetti to order and the biggest gripe is moving storage

[hybrid nymph]

no clue I don't think you can do that

[hard ivy]

No, but what you can do is select the storage for dismantling, go to where the storage is gonna be, and then dismantle it. If you've got the dismantle crates set to appear where you stand, you got item teleportation

[fringe ginkgo]

i got my train station ready for loading, but the prompt doesn't appear when I have the train parked

how can i set it up to load the train

[atomic notch]

You gotta set it in the timetable

[vestal canyon]

Hello! Quick question; in the video for the anniversary thing, are they teasing like stuff added to the game, or more like merch? Or if you have no idea that’s fine too

[earnest oak]

so i accidentally unequipped cable from my hotbr how do i reequip it

[wicked nacelle]

there aren't any bugs that require rebuilding stations

[wicked nacelle]

your station is backwards -- so you do need to rebuild it, but you need to rebuild it facing the right way -- not just 'Rebuild it"

the train that's going forward must match the curved top side of the station

[feral geyser]

Go to build menu, hover over it, press the number key you want it saved as.

[fringe ginkgo]

does docking work with a train with 2 driving seats?

[earnest oak]

yes but cable no where to be found

[feral geyser]

Power category

[earnest oak]

or is it the power line thing

[wicked nacelle]

it's the front engine in whichever direction it's going and for autodrive to use it it must be facing the direction the train will go (i.e. an engine in the back facing the same as the engine in the front won't work)

[feral geyser]

It's called Power Line

[hybrid nymph]

I think I fixed my power

[atomic notch]

Nice

[cloud shadow]

I have a strange question, so for the console release, are they going to be doing like a beta weekend before the release or are they just sticking to the release? Weird question but i am curious.

[feral geyser]

Also, you don't have to, for example, save both Constructors and Assemblers to your hotbar. You can save one and switch within the category by pressing E. The same is true for various marks of belts/lifts/other things as you get upgrade speeds.

[wicked nacelle]

it's not been announced either way that I've seen

[cloud shadow]

The console release has but I am curious to see if they do a beta weekend of some kind

[wicked nacelle]

yes, they haven't announced if there would be... but usually that's for multiplayer games that are highly reliant on remote servers.. . this isn't

[cloud shadow]

Ahhh I see, thank you

Another random question, do you think it will be crossplatform?

[hybrid nymph]

devs have already said no

[wicked nacelle]

they said it will be cross-console-platform but noticably did not say console-pc crossplay

[cloud shadow]

Really? No crossplay? That sucks

[wicked nacelle]

why it wouldn't support dedicated servers crossplay is stupid

no console-to-pc crossplay

they said xbox to playstation crossplay

[cloud shadow]

Not a huge fan of that

[wicked nacelle]

I'm not either, but I don't use consoles, so... don't really care

[cloud shadow]

Thats fair enough

I do hope they do that though

If not I'll be surprised

[hybrid nymph]

my dumb trains are glitched

my train doesn't connect with the station

it just goes to the station then reverses

I have no idea why?

any ideas?

[wicked nacelle]

I mean, that means you have bidirectional track, and that's sketch af