satisfactory

[hard ivy]

the absolute worst option lmao

[mossy rock]

y

[abstract heron]

@unborn gyro

[verbal nova]

imagine planning stuff out

[plain gate]

modeler is a complete brainfuck for big builds... not gonna lie

[verbal nova]

couldn't be me

[mossy rock]

i use sf calc for everything

[abstract heron]

Try satisfactory tools

The calacator bit

[plain gate]

yeah i do use that

[mossy rock]

sf calc power planner the mpst usefull thing ever

[abstract heron]

I been working on dune desert starter factory base

[hard ivy]

makes mistakes, not capable of calculating some recipe chains, uses random recipes

[mossy rock]

ive been using it for 2 years, never found a single problem

[hard ivy]

it literally does only one or 2 simple calculations

[white dawn]

I'd been considering implementing Literally Random Recipes into my own custom solver, based on some ridiculous conversations awhile ago. :D

[mossy rock]

maybe you were using it in beta or something

[plain gate]

power planner? naur just use all 2.1k uranium :p

[abstract heron]

Before I did 8100 rubber plant

[hard ivy]

then go and use it to calculate how much oil you need to make 300 plastic. find the minimum required, without sloops

[mossy rock]

why would u need 8100 rubber

[mossy rock]

i only use certain alts buddy,

[abstract heron]

To sink or to have

[hard ivy]

ok? and?

[abstract heron]

2700 oil to 8100 rubber per minute

[mossy rock]

i use whatever oil it says

cuz i only build what i need and not 8100 rubber

[hard ivy]

which is probably 2-5x more than the minimum required

[mossy rock]

nah, i used like 1000 oil for 150 gw

[plain gate]

it defaults to correct recipes doesnt it? sftools

[abstract heron]

Rubber can be good for alts and also such

I have 700gw factory

[hard ivy]

I was asking about plastic, not power

[mossy rock]

yea but its nuc

[hard ivy]

tools yes. not calculator

[abstract heron]

No fuel and rocket fuel

[mossy rock]

cool, must have taken a while

mine is 150 gw with only rocket fuel, hardest part was placing all the gens

[abstract heron]

There is no wrong way of playing satisfactory

[mossy rock]

exactly

[shy mulch]

tell that to josh 😄

[abstract heron]

U have my way and I have my way

[mossy rock]

my way or the highway

[abstract heron]

I do plan on doing nuclear and ploutium and ficsoim

[abstract heron]

Can u stop

[mossy rock]

i did it once buddy

[abstract heron]

People can play what ever they want to

[mossy rock]

dude, do you realize what u said?

[abstract heron]

Ik

[mossy rock]

u said people have my way and i have my way

so apparently your way is best

then i made a cheaky limp bizkit referance

[shrewd palm]

finally got this power plant online so now i can take a look at the checklist that i havent been making any progress on for way too long

[shy mulch]

always feels nice to make a solid bit of progress

[shrewd palm]

yes

[hard ivy]

just checked. it's still as dogshit of a calculator as ever

[shrewd palm]

im really excited for doing all the tier 5 stuff but there are some things i need to get done for tier 4 first

[mossy rock]

🤓

[shy mulch]

I was building a large dark matter crystal factory then stopped to double check my calculations and my recalculation told me I needed 8800 SAM, so I decided it was probably wrong so I should just stop for today and check it again tomorrow. Then I checked on SFT and turns out I'd made a mistake and only needed 2200 SAM, so work can continue!

[abstract heron]

Yay

[shrewd palm]

i need to plan out my sam stuff

i brought all of it over to one spot a while ago but that was before i knew how trains worked so i need to redo all that

i think i only missed like 1 or 2 nodes of sam

[reef basin]

I mean it's pretty much known that it can't show some production lines and doesn't optimise anything at all

[hard ivy]

like it literally used 13.5 times more oil than necessary

[reef basin]

(also can't deal with loops or byproducts)

[mossy rock]

neither can i

[abstract heron]

Hi

[reef basin]

that's why you use calculator that can 🙂

[hard ivy]

found another issue, too. the graph it produced was different depending on the order I turned the recipes on
how tf does it manage to do that

[shy mulch]

I'm already using a bunch of SAM for other things. I have 7 impure and 1 normal node remaining unused, and I will use almost all of that for this factory

[shrewd palm]

are you just doing space elevator parts or some ficsonium shenanigans

[mossy rock]

fine maybe its bad, but im not playing on a scale that it matters really

[hard ivy]

it always matters

[reef basin]

adds alt to list of alts, always uses first alt in list of alts

[shy mulch]

existing stuff makes ficsonium and some other bits, this new factory will be exclusively be feeding BWD

[shrewd palm]

nice, how much are you going for?

[shy mulch]

Goal is 25/min

[shrewd palm]

gonna be drowning in coupons

[shy mulch]

I know a lot more is possible, but 25 will satisfy me

Yep!

version 1 of my megafactory made 5/min, was kinda a trial run, I'm leaving it in place and making another one that will do 20, all the logistics are a lot more organised and I'm using more appropriate alts

[shrewd palm]

i've got a factory for 20/min planned out

[shy mulch]

also made this one in such a way that it can be scaled very easily if I can be bothered to figure out a way to get more materials into it. the 5/min one the input lines were cramped and complicated and it really couldn't be expanded without ripping most of it out

I think I went a bit heavy on the trains

[willow glen]

For a project that size, there is no “too heavy on the trains”. You gotta drag like half the map over there, trains are the best way

In fact i would consider training water too

[sly badge]

are they ever gonna fix pipeline junctions being such a nightmare to use if your platforms arent world aligned?

[willow glen]

How so? They seem to align to the platform the same for me, world grid or not

[raw lantern]

Why is this game so fun? I accidentally played it for 3 hours

[sly badge]

if you put a junction on a vertical pipe then it aligns to the world instead of your platforms

[plain gate]

why not just train the dry ingredients

[mortal ginkgo]

Do you guys use Converters to actually convert raw materials to another?

[willow glen]

what? you’d have to train those too lol. Talking for a megafactory (all one location)

[willow glen]

no, my computer can’t handle using every node on the map so I have no need to convert more

[mortal ginkgo]

I see. I was wondering if it would be good to have extra sulfur and coal..

[shy mulch]

I trained all the ore into a megastation over the water and did pure ingots on everything, then trained it from there off to other places for further processing

[plain gate]

ah makes sense then...

[plain gate]

yeah, for aluminum

coal there isn't really a shortage of

sulfur neither, unless you use oil power

[mortal ginkgo]

is there shortsge for aluminum tho? I thought game gave too much already 🤔

[shy mulch]

I'll run out of sam before I run out of bauxite

[plain gate]

yes, quite a lot

[mortal ginkgo]

can you give a short answer how? I am curious as I play to porcess all bauxite

I thought game gave ridiculous amount of it

[plain gate]

currently my calculator returns 13500 aluminum/min to produce 50/50/25/25

there's only 12300 on the map

[mortal ginkgo]

wow what are you using it for?

[hard ivy]

p5 or p4?

[plain gate]

for that same playthrough i only use around 7600 sam

[plain gate]

p5 ofc

and surprisingly not a lot of N2, only half the map

[plain gate]

1833 to ficsite, 1331 to alclad, 5000 to FMF and 5400 to casing

[mortal ginkgo]

oh dear

[sly badge]

do you need pumps for pipes if your making enough fluid?

[boreal musk]

you can approximately produce 16k/min if youre using original recipe instead of pure

[sly badge]

because wont the new liquid being created just push up the other liquid

or nah

[hard ivy]

you can quite easily get down to below 10k

[hard ivy]

you need pumps whenever moving fluid more than 10m

[plain gate]

at the expense of what other resource

[hard ivy]

quartz obviously

(default alu ingot)

[boreal musk]

you can get heck ton of silica by using distilled recipe

[hard ivy]

eh, it's not much more efficient than cheap silica + pure crystal

in fact, unless you need both silica and crystals, it's less efficient

[willow glen]

Pink liquid cool tho

[plain gate]

i'm fairly sure the difference between limestone recipe is like 1-2% isn't it

and water byp...

[plain gate]

its only 700 sam+2625 cat to push 2100 over but it takes 4500 quartz to do the same

im not really convinced its worth

[peak wasp]

that is good too
alternate recipes help so much omg

[topaz shale]

I was so happy when my bidirectional train works. I have highway lines that are one way only but to get to the stations in tight areas, I just use a cross intersection or a t intersection and turn it into a bidirectional line. So glad that that works the way I need it to.

[floral solar]

wow that entrance exam was hard

glad I passed it took a while

[topaz shale]

Congrats!

[latent prawn]

i built something like that for the limited use of moving limestone around in dune desert, has 2 trains visiting the branches of a '+' in a loop. works pretty well.

[stable cipher]

are the autosave and seizure warning screens new?

and is there a way to disable them

[spark sky]

Not new, at least as of 1.1, and no, no disabling.

[hard ivy]

new in 1.0 or 1.1 and no, not without mods

you can skip them by holding alt right after launching the game

[spark sky]

I didn't know that, may try that next time.

[hard ivy]

but if the screen appears, it's too late to press alt

[ivory condor]

I have those messages permanently disabled via mods

[hard ivy]

so it sounds like a bug

[ivory condor]

Got pretty annoying

[carmine hearth]

Hello im early game first playtrough i just unlocked fuel power with crude oil and i now have scaned a lot of drives what are alternative recepies that are good ? or do i save the harddrives and not scan them jet ?

[hard ivy]

Heavy Oil Residue and Diluted Packaged Fuel will allow you to make 20 GW from just 600

Add Recycled Plastic and Recycled Rubber to that, and you can get 3 plastic or rubber from each m³ of oil

[shrewd palm]

time to finally tear down my rocket fuel plant

this thing has bothering me for months

[round hound]

What a crappy announcement video to be honest. Full of NOTHING

[coral sundial]

I have a question, I have a cosl deposit that is so far what’s the best way to transport goods back to my base

[dense violet]

you could just belt it. Or find a deposit next to iron to make steel on location

[coral sundial]

It’s like 1200 meters away

[dense violet]

so?

[coral sundial]

Isn’t that far for belts

[dense violet]

you're early in the game, belting thigns long ways is pretty normal

[dense violet]

only if you feel it's too far

[coral sundial]

Oh ok I’ll try some belts

[dense violet]

this is for steel though right?

[sullen gull]

You could effectiviely belt things all the way across the map if you so desire.

[coral sundial]

Rn I have my steel and copper automated and I’m making the rotors and advanced plates and wires

Uh no it’s for power

[dense violet]

why bring it to your base then?

is there water nearby?

[coral sundial]

Idk I didn’t find it yet

I died looking last time cuz I fell

[plush dawn]

i had to belt plastic and rubber like 1km and i alos had to belt steel items 1.2km

[dense violet]

find distant coal next to water. 3-4 nodes of it. Build power there

no need to import it to your base

[plush dawn]

its easier to run power to your base compared to a coal belt

[marble breach]

Hey all,
There was a tweet from Sean Murray teasing a No Man's Sky update, and the Satisfactory account replied. Do you think this hints at a potential update, or is it just one developer showing appreciation to another?

[coral sundial]

Oh I see

[plush dawn]

also doesnt look as janky

[shrewd palm]

well a pretty big update for nms dropped yesterday

[dense violet]

the game forces you to spread out 🙂 and using distant coal or oil for power means the nearby coal or oil can be used for factory items

[marble breach]

Yeah its amazing

[plush dawn]

not me being lazy and running a nitrogen pipe 2km under the map to my base

[dense violet]

eh, not that weird either. Though you can run it over the land too

[sullen gull]

Especially when you get trains and can use the rails and stations to transfer power all over 😏

[plush dawn]

yeah for nitrogen i probably couldve, its just i already have so many random belts that i just wasnt feeling it

i still havnt used a single power tower

[dense violet]

by the time nitrogen though, drones are easy enough to set up. Probably faster too

[plush dawn]

i have thousands of mk1 power poles

[main topaz]

You should always be scanning your hard drives but you don't have to immediately choose an option. Avaliable but unelected options won't appear on future drives while in the library, letting you find the alternative recipe you want.

[dense violet]

I don't like the looks of them tbh

[plush dawn]

i think i needed nitrogen for the drones

[coral sundial]

I feel like I’m playing the game wrong

[plush dawn]

i havnent used drones yet

i did a whole lot of work to make them then realised i cant fuel them

[shrewd palm]

there isnt really a wrong way to play the game, some things are just more efficient than other things

[dense violet]

yeah, all recipes are 'good', just depends on your situation and how you want to do things 🙂

and you're never locked out of recipes so don't stress about that

[dense violet]

you're in the tutorial, you're fine 🙂

[shrewd palm]

there are a LOT of people that somehow make it to and past nuclear power while building spaghetti

[coral sundial]

Interesting lol

[dense violet]

so imo the game is essentially a sand box.

do you think you'll go about doing your own projects and ideas after you get all the tiers done? or will it be one and done?

[coral sundial]

Idk!!

[dense violet]

see how you feel 🙂 to me it's like minecraft. The game doesn't end when you kill the ender dragon

[shrewd palm]

if anything the game opens up once you "defeat the ender dragon"

you can do whatever you want and you'll have the resources to do it

[dense violet]

does it? I don't recall it stopping you from doing anything

[shrewd palm]

really tedious to play minecraft without an elytra

[plush dawn]

i have more of a lasagna base right now

mostly flat or stacked buildings but some small spaghetti builds

some people also like to do ravioli bases with lots of medium sized factories

[carmine hearth]

got it thanks guys

[hardy cargo]

What is your guys's opinions on vertical building

[dense violet]

very useful?

[hardy cargo]

ok thenks

[dense violet]

a lot of people ignore verticality but it really opens up how you design your layouts. Lets you work with the terrain too

like this #design-and-architecture message

[carmine pine]

Sick :o

[plush dawn]

yeah vertical is cool, it lets me build a small platform that i can blend into the ground easily but still expandability, its not great for a mega factory for one item though unless the floors are huge

[severe ledge]

anyone else have to restart their PC a few times before they start to get decent FPS in game?

[plain gate]

best building

[stable cipher]

is there a limit to train length

[fluid sapphire]

Not one you could reasonably reach probably, just gotta have enough locomotives to pull all your cars

[placid stirrup]

Over 1000

[stable cipher]

ic

[placid stirrup]

Intensive care?

[stable cipher]

inner centipede

[placid stirrup]

ic

[sly badge]

"Yeah, I think this game is in a satisfactory state, we just dont have a name yet"
"Say that again........."

[winged glen]

quick question about the efficiency display, my machines are completely full, input belts backed up, machine outputs empty, output belts empty. but the efficiency percentage is hovering around 95-98. I'm really only asking cause I'm trying to determine if this factory is actually outputting what I think it is

[terse flower]

Do hypertube cannons work still and if so, how do one?

[white dawn]

!wikisearch hypertube

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=hypertube

[white dawn]

^ yes, see the wiki page above; I believe it's got one way to build them

[terse flower]

Thank u

[white dawn]

There are some styles of cannon which worked prior to Update 8 which got broken with the UE5 physics changes on that release, but there's various ways to build working ones still

[earnest oak]

can someone explain why i am getting loot in my inventory and stuff when i make a new game?
and i just have a lot more inv slots and equip slots

[white dawn]

If you skip onboarding, you start with a bunch of stuff in your inventory

[earnest oak]

is there any way to not?

[white dawn]

If it bothers you, you can just delete everything in your inventory

ctrl-drag to the trashcan icon to delete everything of that type

[earnest oak]

what about the extra inv slots and equip slots

[white dawn]

It's meant to sort of give you the collection of stuff you're likely to have accumulated had you not skipped onboarding

No clue about those, unless some of those are also things which unlock during HUB construction

If you've got any mods installed, could be those

[earnest oak]

ill just start fresh whatveer

[white dawn]

Yeah, looks like Onboarding would usually give you +10 Inventory Slots in all, so giving you those is entirely appropriate

What equipment slots do you have active which you don't think you should have active?

[earnest oak]

idk i have 3 total

i just started fresh without skipping

[peak wasp]

Sloopyboys are ⚡

Trying to plan out all the resources I need early game so I can do late game without rebuilding all my factories is a pain do ppl actually do this how many steel beams do you need

[wicked nacelle]

You use a production planning tool. But I find that kind of gameplay brutally awful

There's PLENTY of resource nodes of every type to easily beat the game without having to do any fancy planning

[shy fog]

there is a reason why some people make blueprints, and some do "I got it to work and I'm content to watch it for 300 hours"

[peak wasp]

Then ur base turns into a spaghetti mess

Do you utilize the entirety of one node for one specific item or split up the nodes for what you need

[wicked nacelle]

I don't have a "my base".

and besides, that's a rule you put on yourself. Play however you want, but just understand your arbitrary rules for how you choose to play are just that

[white dawn]

One easy way to handle that problem: don't rebuild your factories! Just make whatever you need right now. Like you want 30/min steel beams to your storage, and you need x/min Steel Beams for something else you're making right now. So you make 30/min to storage, and make x/min to something else. Then, those factories can be done! You never touch them again. Later on, when something else needs more Steel Beams, just make more steel beams right inside the new factory

That way the only real "how much of X do I need?" boils down to "how quickly do I want my personal storage for X to replenish?"

Everything else is just making a factory to support whatever the new product needs

[peak wasp]

I started in the north west forest biome so I could move over to the desert when I need to for late game

[white dawn]

Unless you literally plan out your entire game's production lines, all the way through Tier 9 (including what alt recipes you're going to use, etc), there's no way to know for sure exactly how much of something you're gonna need

So trying to plan for the future is a little bit silly. Unless you're extraordinarily lucky, you'll either have produced Too Much (which, admittedly, isn't a big deal so long as you had fun doing it), or produced Too Little, in which case you have to build more anyway

So if you just build what you need right now and then build more later, you're sure to build the exact right amount of factory for what you're making. :)

(Even if you follow that general methodology, you may find yourself bending/breaking it for specific things, of course. As xaxxon mentioned, any arbitrary rules you decide on for your builds are entirely self-imposed. So don't feel chained to a build methodology just because you decided to mostly follow one.)

[coral sundial]

if i have a far away mine should i use converyes or trucks to transport

[shrewd palm]

might be in for a bit of a disaster

[keen crane]

automatically unlocking all the alternate recipes is so nice

[shrewd palm]

only have 3/4 of my reactors running and im having waste issues already

pretty sure its just belting but idk

well it SHOULD just be belting but idk how to fix it

i think i fixed the problem

[upbeat charm]

Today I see big Spider thingies monster

I almost want to delete the game

[willow birch]

Go to options and select arachnophobia mode

[rustic hare]

istg arachnophobia mode is more scary than without it 😂

I'd rather not be able to see every single spider lurking in the cave the moment I enter it

[upbeat charm]

I'm just not good with horror elemwnt in the game, so imagine I was trying to run away from it and be like that horror movie character "Is it gone?" then suddenly health drop by 1.5 box

[rustic hare]

arachnophobia mode be giving me felinephobia now

[willow birch]

Haha , I treat it as a game of who sees who first to shoot them down

[upbeat charm]

was smacking the thing kinda non-stop after it is dead

[rustic hare]

the tier 1 spiders make for good aim practice objects with explosive rebars

[wicked nacelle]

I'd use belts til I had trains. vehicles are a pain and not that useful since trains exist

vehicles have their own annoying learning curve that's not worth it IMO

[coral sundial]

okeee

[mossy rock]

how fast have yall seen iodine infused filters run out?

[wicked nacelle]

sometimes I play at 20x speed so I've seen them run out really fast. But there normally is a maximum burn rate that cannot be exceeded

[mossy rock]

how the hell do you turn your game speed up

[wicked nacelle]

Pretty sure if you're holding any radioactive stuff it's at the max burn rate

[rustic hare]

when I got uranium in my inventory it was running like, 3-5s per filter?

[wicked nacelle]

There's a third party tool called "cheat engine" and you just tell it the game and tell it the speed you want it to run at

[mossy rock]

thats why u gotta automate them

[wicked nacelle]

and upload them

[mossy rock]

lowkey easy and its imposible to run out

[mossy rock]

ofc

im chillin with like a full inv of uranium

[boreal musk]

5/min at max radiation

[mossy rock]

oh thats it?

i make more than that a min im immortal!

[wicked nacelle]

of course you have to remember to take it out of storage before you run out. It would be a nice end-game reward to let you use inventory items out of dimensional storage

[rustic hare]

so my 3-5s estimation was way off? 😂

[wicked nacelle]

yeah, it's not super fast

[mossy rock]

i think i make 10 per min

[wicked nacelle]

!wikisearch iodine_infused

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=iodine_infused

[mossy rock]

which is good cuz im playing with someone else so if were both around max radiotion we will live

[wicked nacelle]

!wikisearch iodine_infused_filter

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=iodine_infused_filter

[wicked nacelle]

The Iodine-Infused Filter is the consumable used by the Hazmat Suit. Each lasts for 12 seconds at maximum radiation. At lesser radiation, the filter lasts proportionally longer.

[split ravine]

anyone know why are jump pads are inconsistent

[wicked nacelle]

I've never made one

[mossy rock]

imo the depo makes this game to easy

like its SO easy, havent been mad at it for running out of basic stuff for so long

[wicked nacelle]

but of course you can always choose not to use it

[mossy rock]

the temptation corrupts the mind.

[wicked nacelle]

I thought I'd do that at first.. then I was like fthat

if it were a mod that enabled that everyone would mock people that used it

[mossy rock]

enabled what?

[wicked nacelle]

everyone... meaning at least me

the idea of dimensional storage. like if it weren't in vanilla and it was only a mod

[mossy rock]

oh yea way to op, i mean that would be pathatic

[stray herald]

How do people even plan these projects? This is mind-blowing https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1411022195530006652

[wicked nacelle]

some people are artisticaly inclined... and they probably just do it with build requirements turned off

I'm not. my factories all look the same. boring and functional

[mossy rock]

lowkey that looks good but i dont like that style, for me its either just buildings on platforms or one building

and its really functional cuz u can expand VERY easily

[sterile blade]

You can @ the creator to ask directly 😉

[zenith pecan]

I usually just make mine up as I go along #screenshots message 🤣

[rigid glen]

Most of mine never get walls or ceilings 🙂

[shrewd palm]

planners + lots of time

[sterile blade]

Planners aren't needed to make good-looking factories xD

[zenith pecan]

I've built some serious monstrosities in my time, never with creative or anything though which is why my saves tend to have thousands of hours.

[rigid glen]

I've been watching a new-to-me streamer on YT, he's done an AMAZING floating neon city, reminds me of Tron. And it's all functional, he has a giant spiral of trains going in and out.

He designs the buildings then adds factories to the spaces inside

[shrewd palm]

i need to get more into the design side of this game

most of my factories end up being a bunch of machines on a concrete slab

[zenith pecan]

Here's a closer look at the three towers power station linked above, glass walls make it pop #satisfactory-experimental message , each structure is north of 600m though and it generates a little bit of electric.

[rigid glen]

That's great work, very moody, definitely giving a specific vibe

[shrewd palm]

yes

im gonna be making a factory for some T5 stuff soon and i'll try making it look good

i've got a couple ideas but nothing i can really put into words

[zenith pecan]

Another view of the place from a couple of biomes away #screenshots message

[rigid glen]

I just finished my heavy frame factory and I don't think I can do walls, but a series of floating glass and neon roofs might be fun

[shrewd palm]

tldr lots of unpainted/chrome/carbon steel painting

[sterile blade]

I somehow just recently realized I have a few GBs of "unreleased" screenshots of the SFR factory... 😅 😆

[wicked nacelle]

ok

is this like an unreleased taylor swift album or??

[sterile blade]

They're even categorized... I have no idea how past me spent so much time om that just to wipe that part of the project out of my memory

[topaz shale]

I can already say that my phase 4 factory is going to be an absolute mess of spaghetti buildings.

[zenith pecan]

I'm sort of taking a well earned break tbh, snowed under with laptop repairs at the charity I volunteer for 😄

[wicked nacelle]

laptop repairs are 😕 people that do that are a bit craycray

at least from what I've seen on youtube

[sterile blade]

@zenith pecan Tbf, it's not like there have been added things "big enough" to force one to make a comeback xD
Like... Updating hypertubes is fun and all, but hardly a "omg, I must have this now" kind of thing ^^

[zenith pecan]

Should see the state ours come back in after staff have done cable snatch drops, slammed the lid down when a pen is on the keyboard and omfg, yeah it is an ongoing run.

[zenith pecan]

The elevator shafts have too short a height restriction, 196 metres when my three towers are 600+ and the support tower is taller, yeah, disappointing.

[wicked nacelle]

mod for that I think

[zenith pecan]

I don't run mods alas, too much risk of it getting borked in a patch causing save issues, given my play time, I could do without that between breaks.

[wicked nacelle]

pretty sure it's vanilla friendly but you'd need to check

vanilla friendly meaning it works fine once the mod is gone

[zenith pecan]

As for the three towers, do you think I'll need to start building nuclear yet #satisfactory-experimental message 🤣

[wicked nacelle]

but it only takes a few seconds to test

build a big elevator, remove mod, see if elevator still works

[shrewd palm]

you'll be fine i think

[zenith pecan]

With the awkwardness of the large ceiling lights, I kind of went my own way with that, here's my alternative solution #design-and-architecture message in all its colours.

[stray herald]

Are those radio towers around the buiildings?

[zenith pecan]

Yes.

[sterile blade]

The annoyance lies in getting used to the mods and then feeling uncomfortable during updates ("ugh, thus would be so easy if I had X mod, but I don't right now...")

[wicked nacelle]

so instead you just want it to be worse all the time instead of maybe some of the time? That's... an odd mindset

[sterile blade]

"Worse" is subjective

[frail sleet]

Yeah i think the main floor of my structure is at like 750 meters

(relative to sea level)

shame if we have to make 4 different elevators to go in one at a time to get up

[zenith pecan]

I never measured that bit, just the approx height of the towers themselves.

[stray herald]

I just unlocked Bauxite, is it worth shipping the ores and coals down to the beach and have a big aluminum ingot/ alclad factory or will it be obsolete within a couple hours?
https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1411207856018952244

[dense violet]

there's many spots where you can process the ore basically on location and then move that to where you need

[frail sleet]

The regular aluminum recipe isn't very good, i'd recommend getting some alts

[dense violet]

also many alts for the process that might make you want ot re jig the whole thing

[split ravine]

guess who just spent 15 minutes setting up jump pads in a pattern just to have the last one fail to work the same way as all the rest 😒

[stray herald]

Okay I see

[wicked nacelle]

Normal aluminum recipe is VERY good

And it’s easy to deal with wastewater

It’s super easy and you only lose like 8% efficiency to much more complex ones that require higher value raw materials

Instant scrap is nice if you have sulfur sitting around but if you don’t then just base recipe is fine to get you started and everything wants pure aluminum.

[tame comet]

Random question. Is the game UE4 or UE5?

[wicked nacelle]

Satisfactory was upgraded from Unreal Engine 4 to Unreal Engine 5 with Update 8, which was released in November 2023

[tame comet]

SMH ChatGTP told me it was UE4. Shows me for listening to bots.

[wicked nacelle]

it was

[noble topaz]

guess who got a new server tag

🤑

[white dawn]

It's almost as if LLMs don't know anything, and relying on them for facts is a recipe for disaster

[tame comet]

Tru

[white dawn]

(but I just got off a soapbox in another channel so I should avoid getting back on one in here. :D)

[tame comet]

I asked Grok to help me optimize my trains. It didn't end well.

[wicked nacelle]

llms know things just the same as people know things. They just have different failure modes. As it is with all AI.

[tame comet]

I think the biggest problem with the current LLMs is that they're like 50% trained on Reddit xD

[wicked nacelle]

We're just more comfortable with the failure modes of people

[regal lantern]

Does the infinite height for conveyer lifts going to conveyer holes still work?

[tame comet]

Think so. Used it the other day and it seemed fine.

Yep, jest tested. Still works 👍

[regal lantern]

I've just tried it for the first time and I can't get it to work lol

[peak wasp]

for an i3 10105f is dx11 12 or vulkan better

[willow glen]

Make sure the two conveyer holes are lined up - might need to use walls or vertical zoop to make sure the foundations are lined up first, then use the lines on the foundation to make sure you place the holes in the same spot

[tame comet]

DX12 is best overall. Expect issues with both DX11 and Vulkan.

[regal lantern]

Yeah, they were lined up.

[peak wasp]

will using 6 year old drivers affect my performance

[willow glen]

post a screenshot in either #1038092680493801533 or #screenshots then, sounds like something is wrong.

[tame comet]

Why the hell would you use 6 year old drivers?

[peak wasp]

they dont make any newer ones for my gpu

[willow glen]

on any game released within the last 6 years, most certainly yes.

What GPU?

[peak wasp]

gtx 550

[peak wasp]

i normally put the game resolution down to something like 640x400

it gives alot of performance

[tame comet]

#screenshots message Example

lol ignore the F1 commentary. Apparently that recorded too xD

[willow glen]

I’m shocked it can run satisfactory at all, even with compromised settings. It’s far below the minimum specs. Not much else I can tell ya.

[peak wasp]

its trying its best

i can scrape together around 70 fps with no factory placed

if i play with spotify on in the background it tanks to 50-60

[willow glen]

my GTX 970 crumbled when they upgraded from UE4 to UE5 but that card was already 12 years old… I was long overdue for an upgrade

[spare crow]

lol, i'm on a laptop with a 3050ti and no way am i getting 50 frames with the settings fully dumped

[tropic juniper]

if you want to ask chatgpt about satisfactory questsion and get accurate answers, prompt it first to refer to the wiki for all it's facts

[peak wasp]

i had a gtx 970

but it began smoking

and part of it looked burnt

i have no idea how that happened

[tropic juniper]

just asking the pure latent space a question with no sources is going to get you some weird results

[willow glen]

Woah that’s wild, mine still works it’s just in a box in case my current one dies

[peak wasp]

i have an rtx 3060 sitting on a shelf that i can never use

[tropic juniper]

Satisfactory first began development on UE4 and then upgraded to UE5 before release, so there's probably a lot of webpages out there that say it used ue4

[tame comet]

Honestly if I were to use a 550 these days, I'd probably run it on Linux. Since there's no actual support for Win11 on it, and there are a couple of options for Linux drivers. (offocial and open-source.) Linux tends to be great on old hardware.

[willow glen]

I wonder how many bought satisfactory on UE4 and couldn’t play it after its upgrade to UE5

[peak wasp]

win11 is just glorified windows 10 isnt it

[tropic juniper]

^ best answer. linux is the best way to milk performance out of old hardware

[peak wasp]

half the settings menus literally say windows 10 on it

[tame comet]

Sadly no. There are core changes that make them incompatible in many ways. Drivers especially. The GTX 550 does not have an official driver compatible with Win11.

[tropic juniper]

no there's a lot of underlying changes to 11. i don't think 10 has hardware accelerated gpu scheduling for starters

[peak wasp]

can someone explain to me why my friends laptop changed from win 11 to win 10 after a factory reset

i never understood why it did that so i just thought win11 was built ontop of win10

[tame comet]

Factory reset would likely restore the original software, which was no doubt Win 10.

[tropic juniper]

he upgraded to windows 11 at some point but the restore partition still had 10

[peak wasp]

ooh

why did they make windows 11 anyways

what was the purpose

[tame comet]

Money and ease of info gathering xD

[tropic juniper]

so that windows 10 could have an end of life.

11 is a free upgrade to 10 so it wasn't the money

[peak wasp]

i tried linux on my spare laptop which is a shitty netbook with a celeron

its actually quite nice

[tame comet]

To be fair tho, they *tried *(and usually failed) to make some improvements. If you have an up to date Nvidia GPU and an Intel CPU, you're pretty solid on Win11.

[peak wasp]

i got mindustry running on the netbook really easily

it just heated up and turned off after 15 minutes

but thats just because its a netbook

[tame comet]

Yea, you'd have to set up the power config to keep a netbook cool xD

[velvet idol]

netbooks are not supposed to do that

[peak wasp]

it doesnt have fans

[peak wasp]

netbooks werent built for the new mindustry campaign

yayy its satisfactory time

[wicked nacelle]

oh wow I'd forgotten about "netbooks"

so glad that concept is dead.

[urban ember]

sorry to interrupt but a friend of mine and i are tryin' to make a factory for alien power matrixes (30/min) and the math is so overwhelming..

[peak wasp]

wew fuel gennie time, almost rail unlocked

where do i start

for my 2nd time playing

[sterile blade]

Roll a dice? ^^

[peak wasp]

i have rolled a dice forest it is

[tame comet]

Can't go wrong with the Forest

[peak wasp]

rocky mountain!

[hollow vector]

what distro?

[hollow vector]

its litterally a worse chromebook

[brittle stratus]

They have a lot of "component" software like the .net framework that they promise to update for the lifetime of the OS, killing win10 makes it possible for them to kill off a lot of the old .net framework code support as well

[peak wasp]

yuh uh i spawned right next to 4 pure iron nodes

then immediatelly ran 2000 meters towards 8 other iron nodes

[tame comet]

Think of all the screws you could make!

[urban ember]

screw you...
-# i had to

[cold fable]

In my playthrough where I automate everything (including the space elevator parts) and never hand craft anything. I just finished automating thermal propulsion rockets. A whole one per minute. It took me 12 hours to plan, build, and debug. The entire factory.

🥲

[tame comet]

Ada would be proud!

[peak wasp]

i dont understand the use in foundations

why use platforms when you can stack machines ontop of one another

[peak wasp]

I got the alt screw, iron > screw

!wikisearch fg

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=fg

[peak wasp]

same lay out as coal?

[tame comet]

No it's pretty different. Got to refine the crude oil into fuel, and then pipe it into the generator. Generally two generators per refinary.

Standard layout is full Mk1 pipe (300/m) of crude oil, into 5 Refineries, into 10 Fuel Generators. Then turn the resin into plastic/rubber. (Or throw it into a sink if you don't feel like dealing with it.)

[peak wasp]

I'm doing 5 refineries, 10 gennies, and sinking resin

[tame comet]

Perfect \o/

[peak wasp]

it's a pure node, too

125%?

[tame comet]

Yea that sounds about right. A maxed out Mk1 pipe.

[peak wasp]

SLOOPS are my fav

[silk ocean]

Just wish there were more in the world XD

[peak wasp]

should give me 2.5k mw, should hold for a while

[peak wasp]

you know if u delete building with sloop inserted, u lose sloop

[silk ocean]

Pretty sure you get it back?

Goes back into inventory

[tame comet]

I've never checked. Now I'm worried xD

[silk ocean]

I'll go delete some buildings for science

[peak wasp]

.>

either that or power thing

[silk ocean]

Get the sloops and shards back into inventory

[tame comet]

OK nice. I never remove them before I delete. I'd have lost dozens of sloops 😅

[silk ocean]

Trying to think of what you might be thinking of ruby, erm

[peak wasp]

hmmm maybe just power things?

power shard

[silk ocean]

I got those back too

Put a sloop and 3 shards into a constructor and then deleted it

They go back to inventory

I think you generally get back everything that you put into a machine

[boreal musk]

neither

[peak wasp]

hmm

[boreal musk]

both goes into inv if you dismantle the machine

[tame comet]

I vaguely recall a bug where power shards were lost. Maybe that's what you're remembering.

[silk ocean]

The easiest way to lose sloops however -> put them into machines around your factories and forget where you put them XD

I recommend keeping notes on where you put them 😄

[ripe basin]

Good morning guys
Now i have a guitar

[tame comet]

Nice 🎸

[silk ocean]

Jammin'

[ripe basin]

Classic guitar
The one with the hole that is made out of wood

[silk ocean]

Other way to find them is hover above the base and look down, if you can, RIP if inside buildings, and look for those pink/purple jets that come out of all machines that have sloops I think, but that also assumes the machines are running. It's easy to lose the little blighters XD

[ripe basin]

I think it would be better if machine's indicator turned purple when slooped

[silk ocean]

Would help yea, again if running. If idle could still be a challenge

[peak wasp]

i love handcrafting reinforced plates

[silk ocean]

Automate, automate, automate xD

[dense violet]

do machines snap to the top of others now? ^_-

[peak wasp]

#screenshots

is cast screw good

[silk ocean]

Perhaps more importantly

Is that a merger on a pole? XD

[eternal delta]

Dose anyone know where blueprints are stored

[silk ocean]

%LocalAppData%\FactoryGame\Saved\SaveGames\blueprints\
?

[peak wasp]

yes

the pole merger

[eternal delta]

oh yes

[frail sleet]

in the balls

[silk ocean]

Submit to Ficsit for new design XD

[eternal delta]

Get out

[rustic hare]

yes, but for late game imo steel screws better

[peak wasp]

is it good for me to not depo anything into containers to let the factory fill up

[exotic pilot]

is turbo diamonds the worst alt recipe

[small notch]

Hi

[naive pelican]

Hi

[dense violet]

it lets you skip a step?

[stray herald]

I just made my first aluminum factory making 480 ingots a minute, how should I split them between sheets and casings?

[true mulch]

make about 30 of each for building and leave the rest, make sheets/casings when you get to automating something that uses them

[stray herald]

Got it🫡

[peak wasp]

does piping matter much for fuel power?

[silk ocean]

As much as anything else

[peak wasp]

damn

[silk ocean]

Ultimately they have to get the fuel

[peak wasp]

10 gennies operating at 100%
but 2 refineries only 50%

(5 refine, 10 gen)

[silk ocean]

As long as your refy output matches the sum demand, 10 gennies at 100% is 150/min of fuel I think?

Where is Fuel Genny 10 xD

[peak wasp]

all around lol

[silk ocean]

What do the Refinerys produce, is it 45/min ? @100%

[peak wasp]

the back 2 are at 50% furthest from extractor

[silk ocean]

22.5/min 50pct

So you're 2x22.5 + 3x45 ?

or just 4 x 45

[peak wasp]

my brain hurts

[silk ocean]

I'll just go in and check the refinery

Oh it's 40/min of Fuel

So that 160/min over those 4

And I see 9 Fuel Generators

[ripe basin]

I also have new earphones
They are A LOT louder than my previous one(s?)

[peak wasp]

hmmm

[silk ocean]

Just going to one of my powerplants xD

[peak wasp]

again wqith the counting 😭

so bad

[silk ocean]

Easily done

20/min/gen, x9 180/min demand

So perhaps clock those last 2 up a bit

[dense violet]

if the generators are all running fine it sounds like you've mathed wrong, since they should be starving if the refs aren't running all the time

[silk ocean]

or if you're building* 10 Fuel Generators then if you want them all at 100%

[peak wasp]

yep I only had 9

I had them on the 'to do list' but must have deleted one

[ripe basin]

So the topic now is fuel generators, right?

[silk ocean]

Yea see SS xD

[exotic pilot]

why..

[dense violet]

the topic is actually the looming danger of neo feudalism

[silk ocean]

ruby posted the setup there

[exotic pilot]

ohh

[ripe basin]

Looks better than mine btw

[exotic pilot]

i thought that was just a weird wayt to say yes

[peak wasp]

the flow rate is causing the issue

240 > 30 and below at the last two

[ripe basin]

Mk1 pipes are 300, no?

[peak wasp]

would a pump fix that?

[peak wasp]

yes

maybe i need to overclock the extractor to 300?

[ripe basin]

You can try that

[exotic pilot]

look in ss

[silk ocean]

pumps won't help in that setup, they are only useful for headlift

[peak wasp]

Hmmm

[silk ocean]

How much crude are those refineries taking in per min?

[peak wasp]

I think the extractor needs to be at 125% (300)

[peak wasp]

60 per m

Even when I m crafting, I press N and calculate and still get the math wrong

[silk ocean]

So yea 300/min out from the oil extractor

Into 5 refineries, that's 300/min consumption

Sinking the resin

5x40 out, 200/min of Fuel, into 10 generators, consuming 200/min of Fuel

Numbers should add up

[hollow mango]

im losing my mind right now somehow my refinery's are using more than 600 heavy oil residue, I've check like 70 times, they only need 600 and i am 100% bringing in 600 yet somehow magicly the line always drains and a few dont get the oil, i tried backfilling and it still ran out

[silk ocean]

Which recipe are you using in the Refineries ?

[hollow mango]

diluted packaged fuel

[silk ocean]

So you have 20 Refineries at 100%, or 10 at 200% ?

[hollow mango]

20 at 100

[peak wasp]

should I left the genies fill up with oil? last two are shutting down 🙁

[silk ocean]

Yea so that is 600/min can confirm of Heavy Oil Residue, it seems a bit misleading on the packaged water, that's 2 Packaged Water at 60/min

[hollow mango]

got plenty of water

[silk ocean]

Eventually it should stabilise as long as you are pushing out 200/min of Fuel

Other buffers might still be filling

In both cases ruby/Hylevel, in theory eventually things should saturate but there might be some sloshing/buffering going on, might help to just increase the supply a little more than the demand for a while

[hollow mango]

its been running like this for like 70 hours ive just been dealing with slightly less fuel

[silk ocean]

In your case Hylevel that would need additional plumbing as you are at 600/min already

[hollow mango]

yeah im gonna figure it out i refuse to let it beat me, there are def not t1 pipes, could it have something to do with the pipe being too long?

[silk ocean]

You could try splitting the system and doubling up the plumbing, as you are right on the limit of the pipes

Length shouldn't matter as long as there is no significant head lift

If the pipes rise by more than 10m you'll ideally need a pump at the bottom

[hollow mango]

time to put effort in, hate fixing my own mistakes

[silk ocean]

I'm always fixing my mistakes XD

[exotic pilot]

short term solutions to long term problems

[peak wasp]

So every pipe should be 200?

[hollow mango]

ive split the 600 pipe about halfway before it hits the first refinery and i'm diverting it to the other end, if this works i get off easy if it doesn't... well like i said, effort.

[silk ocean]

The topology you have means that no one pipe there will ever read 200 because it's kinda all split together out of the refineries and into the generators

[ripe basin]

I can play the first part of "V trave sidel kuznechik" on my guitar

[silk ocean]

If for example you have an output manifold, that then runs around all of the generators one by one, then the end of the output manifold should read 200 before it starts feeding around the generators

but it's likely to fluctuate due to the bursty nature of demand, e.g. generator 1 buffer might be full, then it completes a cycle and the buffer instantly drains say 50% and refils again

[small notch]

#screenshots how to not get hurt by the gas?

[silk ocean]

Gas filters

[stray herald]

Or if the pod is not locked (no requirements) you can jump from above, quickly open it, grab the drive and leave

[silk ocean]

Need to craft a Gas Mask, and then make Gas Filters, pop them in your inventory and put the mask on, and you should be good

[stray herald]

I recommend Blade runners tho

[peak wasp]

should I try and do what I did with the coal?
I had 3 extractors, then two pipes feeding 4

so 8 total

how would I do that with 1 extractor

[silk ocean]

With 1 extractor ultimately you can't really do that because it only has one output so there will always be that one bottleneck, but it shouldn't be a problem, it's capable of pushing 300 out

[peak wasp]

h m m

[silk ocean]

Your numbers add up ruby, assuming everything is clocked and doing exactly what you mentioned, if some of the generators are starved I can only assume it's something to do with the layout of your output with that kinda all out mixed to all in design, maybe try the manifold solution, that usually seems to work for me

(and you've set those last 2 back to 100% as well)

[peak wasp]

@silk oceani think it has stabilized 🙂
ty for the assistance

[silk ocean]

No worries 🙂

[small notch]

ok ty

[hollow mango]

@silk ocean thankyou, looks like its getting better now, might take ages for everything to naturally fill though

[silk ocean]

Pleasure, fingers crossed 🙂

"Should" do eventually

[hollow mango]

if i can get this working rright i can start planning my retrofit for rocket fuel instead of turbo

[silk ocean]

Sounds like a plan xD

[vapid whale]

hey guys im not super far into the game yet, but im wondering if there is later a machine or screen display that can tell me how many items pass through a belt per minute

https://ficsit.app/mod/CounterLimiter
kind of like this mod, is there something like this already in vanilla?

[reef basin]

yes

however it's kinda not reliable afaik

[vapid whale]

ah

in what way is it not reliable

[reef basin]

(though you should know how many items are on a belt, since SF doesn't have any variability in production)

[silk ocean]

There is one you can unlock in the game

[vapid whale]

i know, but i think it looks good

and I usually build modular factories, so its practical

[vapid whale]

does it work as intended?

[silk ocean]

As far as I'm aware, I use quite a few of them without any problems

[vapid whale]

alright thx

[silk ocean]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/structures/detail/id/Build_ConveyorMonitor_C/name/Conveyor+Throughput+Monitor

[hexed phoenix]

Would actually be some neat recipe - where you'd get somewhat random (in case that makes sense) output as a bi-product from a machine - which would somewhat force you to use smart/programmable splitter - if you ain't just sinking whatever it gives :)

[faint reef]

I just encountered my first Johnny... THEY FLY NOW?

[peak wasp]

what is everyone working on?

[slender quest]

My phase 4 production suddenly started blowing fuses, so after adding batteries I decided to move on from coal + geysers to nuclear, have been building that.

[steady glade]

getting into trucks on phase 4, erecting refinery towers in the grass fields, and finishing my rocket fuel factory in the blue crater

[true mulch]

they always have

what tier are you in?

[slender quest]

Yeah, jetpack one is super rare. Never seen this one, although I'm not exploring too actively.

[faint reef]

tier 7

the jetpack drop wasnt really useful for me

but it did scare me shitless

[limpid cairn]

does any1 have a design for 45 degree train rails?

[ripe basin]

Use fuel+geothermal

[slender quest]

Nah, nuclear is my choice, I just go with it.

[ripe basin]

Fuel is still reliable when going nuclear

[peak wasp]

it doesnt make sense that massive trees give like 12 wood and small ones give over 40

[small notch]

gonna try to set up steel any tips?

[ripe basin]

Find a place with coal and iron nearby

[dense violet]

lay down a line of foudnations going 45 degrees to the main line and put down the pylons

similar to this but this is only like.. 30 degrees https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/932761153703149659/1396996186711523460/image.png?ex=68b38815&is=68b23695&hm=9a1c324469dc7474208b764ed6bc1690e5cf9a153123f00509e06c3b8369b5ed&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[limpid cairn]

get the solid steel alt

[slender quest]

I usually start a new piece of track from straight line, look which length gives me 45 degrees, make a 45-degree straight section there, and connect both straight pieces. Usually this fits in a bit more than 5 foundations. Gonna make a picture...

[small notch]

is that using iron bars instead of ore

[slender quest]

Ingots.

[limpid cairn]

yes

[small notch]

alr thanks

[limpid cairn]

it uses less iron and coal per min

but gives more steel per min

[small notch]

ah ok

is 300 coal per min enough for phase 2 setup

[peak wasp]

I love sloops so much 😻

why is there a radioactive boar

[silk ocean]

It's an alien world, could be anything xD

[silk ocean]

Depends on your factory

Enough is when you have enough xD

[slender quest]

#screenshots message
I was a bit wrong, 45-degree turn fits in 2x3 foundations, but you can shrink or expand it even more if you need.

Diagonally-going railway though... Had to make a blueprint for it, somehow devs decided that it can't be built easily now without additional diagonal foundations or using blueprints (rail rotation skips 45 degree mark).

[fluid sapphire]

I just recently finished an aluminum ingot factory that makes 4500 aluminum ingots/minute, and 7150 iron and 3000 copper ingots with the byproduct water.

Next to that I made a motor factory that will feed my tier 7-8 parts minifactory and a system to load the remaining iron onto a train. As the last piece in the area I made another factory that makes 180 heat sinks/minute. Working on decorating that. This has been like a month long effort to make all the source train stations and what not, I got to finally turn on a web of 5 factories at the same time (in addition to above 3 - also fused frames and rocket fuel packaging, which I prepared prepared before this)

[silk ocean]

Big job

I'm on day 4 of my Turbo Blend Powerplant xD

[peak wasp]

im made a new save today and im looking for a jetpack before i get the base building milestone

[slender quest]

MAM and chainsaw milestone will give you actual fuel for jetpack.

[crystal siren]

When you place a vertical splitter with the bottom being the output, is there any way to have one side being the input? When placing it, it always assumes the top being the input

I mean it is when placing it, but I mean is there a way to do some trickery to have one side as the input?

[silk ocean]

You just have to attach one end to a directional input/output

[ripe basin]

Im on day [Insert random number here] of building my tower of cringe

[silk ocean]

Temporary merger/splitter/belt or something

[crystal siren]

Yeah I just don't like that it's not aligned as the vertical one and you see that ugly top of the lift... guess I have to live with that 😅

[ripe basin]

Why tower of cringe?
Its just a large tower with windows (Not the OS) where i put all my unorganized {шлак}

[silk ocean]

Might be possible, I'm no expert xD

[limpid cairn]

guys is it better to feed gasses from the top into a machine or from the bottom?

like, for fluids i know its better from the top since of water pressure and headlift stuff

[silk ocean]

Gases don't have any headlift as far as I'm aware, so either doesn't matter

[fluid sapphire]

My vertical tower of generators agrees

[peak wasp]

whats experimental power generation

[silk ocean]

Alien Tech stuff

[peak wasp]

i thought it was geothermal

it costs sulphur

[silk ocean]

Mouse over the Alien Power Augmenter - "experimental technology"

[peak wasp]

can you give me advice on my factory

[silk ocean]

Wassup xD

[peak wasp]

its spaghetti

):

[silk ocean]

A common dish.. I mean problem xD

Use Foundations firstly, if not already

[peak wasp]

i dont wanna tear up everything i've built

my game just killed itself

[fluid sapphire]

I wouldn't worry about spaghetti until you at least have coal power

[silk ocean]

Which phase are you?

[peak wasp]

idk

[fluid sapphire]

I deleted everything I had once I hit coal power / steel

[silk ocean]

Yea as INSANE says, if you're in the startfac phase, don't worry too much, you'll probably tear that all down

[fluid sapphire]

Rebuilding will be quicker and easier than it was to initially set up

[peak wasp]

i have steel

[fluid sapphire]

Ah, interesting, I think I saw mk1 belts on the screenshots

I would just rebuild everything on foundations and use better belts and overclock your miners and whatnot, at that point

[peak wasp]

im poor

[peak wasp]

i cant i have no materials to rebuild

[fluid sapphire]

Ah, make those first then

Until then, I wouldn't worry too much

I had wild spaghetti myself at the start

[peak wasp]

i cant

it takes 400 MW of power

i only have bio generators

i have been harvesting trees for the last half hour

[fluid sapphire]

Scale down temporarily

Literally I had like 5 biofuel burners total, before getting coal power

[limpid cairn]

are you randomly using the petrolum coke alt recipe for alu scrap?

[fluid sapphire]

I am using sloppy and pure

Seemed simplest

[limpid cairn]

okay

[normal forge]

hi

[muted marsh]

hey! any of you know a good way to learn some factory design? im getting really confused

[graceful turret]

what are yalls predictions for 1,2

it would be really cool if they added the unlimited nudge mod

[peak wasp]

wow i love making 200 modular frames by hand C:

[fluid sapphire]

TotalXclipse has some videos on YouTube on the topic - all I can tell you is try to use foundations, divide chunks of your factory into smaller sub modules, leave enough space and stay organised

[graceful turret]

just automate it no?

[peak wasp]

i got no iron

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[graceful turret]

wdym no iron

theres iron everywhere

[muted marsh]

thank you! i'll try to stay organised but it's hard

[peak wasp]

it got spaghettied

[limpid cairn]

it would be nice if they added nudging to water extractors

[graceful turret]

i love spaghetti

[limpid cairn]

and arrow key to move the camera

[fluid sapphire]

I tend to divide it similarly to this: it's a setup for making HMF, the one that makes modular frames is probably the most complex production chain on my map #screenshots message

[graceful turret]

theres lots of buildings that could use nudging

[fluid sapphire]

Sometimes they live in the same building, sometimes in different locations

[limpid cairn]

im pretty sure everything is nudgable besides train rails and water extractors

[graceful turret]

and miners

[limpid cairn]

why would you need to nudge miners...

[golden mauve]

I restarted again. 20fps gameplay on my 2016 PC 😃

[graceful turret]

im pretty sure theres more but i dont remember

[graceful turret]

i like alignment

dont you?

[muted marsh]

wow, this i all new. i can't even read ur setup but i think it's nice. Sorry gotta learn more to understand these schematics better

[limpid cairn]

are we talking about the same miners?

[golden mauve]

If I remember right, if you place foundations underwater, you can place water extractors on them and nudge right? Was that removed?

[graceful turret]

yes

its cool to place miners on foundations but they dont align sometimes

[limpid cairn]

ill try that when i need more water extractors

[graceful turret]

yeah thats still in the game

still sounds good to let us nudge them

[golden mauve]

🙌

[fluid sapphire]

There core of it is the heavy modular frames, the inputs are being made in the 3 different sub blocks and combined into a block that just does the end product (there is also some excess made of some of the items, just to keep the numbers nicer - it gets collected and sinked)

[golden mauve]

Is there enough space in the swamp cave if you go out of bounds for a nuclear power plant that uses max uranium in the world?

[graceful turret]

if you go out of bounds theres enough space for anything no?

[golden mauve]

Ah yes silly me

[graceful turret]

Well not anything but any even slightly reasonable build

Pretty much anything

[muted marsh]

how far are you into the game?

[fluid sapphire]

I have completed all milestones up to and including everything in tier 8, but I don't yet have production for the advanced parts or any elevator parts

I am making things a bit out of order

Like I have aluminum done, but I don't yet have computers automated (I deleted everything at one point and threw all the materials into a sorting machine)

For all the parts that tier 7-8 bring, I have enough of a plan to get a small production of all of them going

Oh yeah, I also don't really have a plastic or rubber setup yet either, only microfactories making enough to use as building materials

[muted marsh]

oke wow ur pretty far in 😮 looks like you have some good solid plans!

[signal shale]

Did theey move a few nodes with 1.1? I SWEAR there was a coal node in the middle of the west coast, but damned if I can find it, nearest ones I can find are more north than west.

[fluid sapphire]

They didn't

[fluid sapphire]

An ever-growing list of tabs on satisfactorytools.com

[peak wasp]

when do we unlock drones

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch drone

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=drone

[peak wasp]

TIER 8

[silk ocean]

Trains are better XD

[peak wasp]

Just unlocked them, but gonna use trucks with them as well and then drones 🙂

I need to build a sea bridge for the first train

[silk ocean]

Trucks can be a nightmare XD

[peak wasp]

Oil to base

Yeah the traffic

That is the only problem

[silk ocean]

Trains do virtually everything around my world, there are a few drones but I'm systematically eliminating them XD

[peak wasp]

I guess you could have 4 depots and smart split items, that way North East South West no deadlocking

I still got tractors working hard. Just gotta start transporting fuel

[silk ocean]

Yea it's the need for fuel especially with drones, plus I seemed to find them unreliable. I'd login the next day to find a drone just sitting there out of fuel when it has been happy for like a week

The ones I have that work are great, I am probably just stretching some routes to the limit without fuel at both ends

[shy fog]

trucks can be fun... and dagnerous... but still silly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkA-hzzBMmI

[silk ocean]

I think they are pretty good on foundations / roadways

lol yea like in that video they get confused a lot XD

[shy fog]

yeah... wasn't expecting to just fly off into the sky originally

[silk ocean]

Not sure where it's flying to atm lol

Oh no jetpack xD

[gritty zealot]

who here wants to compare save times, im currently on 328 hours into one save

[uncut trail]

whats best fuel for drones?

[zinc heath]

Ah yes, finally 🙌 getting to chat with other Pioneers

[silk ocean]

Plutonium? xD

[uncut trail]

bro

[zinc heath]

Id say whatever you can produce and distribute the most of honestly

[uncut trail]

i js unlocked drones

is turbofuel aight?

[silk ocean]

Yea

[zinc heath]

Id say turbofuel or rocket fuel

[uncut trail]

aight ty

[graceful turret]

plutonium better

[uncut trail]

gotta be ragebait

[silk ocean]

You wanted to know the best, it's plutonium 😉

[graceful turret]

its actually not plutonium is great drone fuel

it makes no waste in drones

[hard ivy]

It's not. Plutonium rods are the best drone fuel

[silk ocean]

Rods yea sure

[uncut trail]

i already said that ive just unlocked drones

i dont have plutonium or dickonium

[silk ocean]

Drones are in the same Tier as Nuclear, so one could assume you could have nuclear set up

[graceful turret]

unlock it

its good

[vestal merlin]

In early game, do y'all care about using the advanced power lines instead of the power poles? I find that they are pretty aesthetically pleasing, they may set up a good foundation for later, but the distance between areas is pretty short right now

[peak wasp]

I'd say so. I usually baby sit for a little bit to see the input output.

How high do drones fly?

[graceful turret]

no idea

check the wiki

[silk ocean]

Not high enough, I have been whacked once or twice in the hoverpack XD

[shy fog]

uh... Josh knows

[silk ocean]

I think basically "high enough" to clear obstacles and terrain, they are fine 😄

[shy fog]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_PEIFKPPoE

[graceful turret]

plus if they clip into terrain nothing happens

[silk ocean]

Yea xD

[peak wasp]

Yeah the top part connects to other ones plus you can zipline on them

[vestal merlin]

ziplining sounds hilariously fun

[peak wasp]

It is!

When U connect a wire to the top part you can move the mouse out and it will show green/red so you can check distance and place it at furthest point just gotta make sure to face the lines correct lly

[vestal merlin]

Neat, ok 🙂

[graceful turret]

i really hope we get some dlc at some point

[vestal merlin]

I think right now I've basically got enough need to create like, two lines, to stretch to my caterium, and from my HUB to the Coal plant I started off... But at some point later I see it expanding out more

[peak wasp]

I'd buy anything they release

[graceful turret]

same

[vestal merlin]

My power is a mess of MK1 hobbled together... One outage kills me LOL

[graceful turret]

i also really hope they fix straight belts

theyre so broken

[peak wasp]

Check a powerline, you can see max consumption at full use and your capacity

[vestal merlin]

Ah sorry I meant to clarify that, I have everything connected to a single plant, so there is one point of failure

but I've got 1200mw so far of capacity and 700 used

[peak wasp]

Oh you can use battery for storage and power switches

[vestal merlin]

and every mk1 just branches out to find more stuff indiscriminately, so it isn't like organized?

[peak wasp]

So like a failsafe

[graceful turret]

oh god i have to do turbo motors now

wish me luck

[peak wasp]

Sloop that baby

[graceful turret]

i dont know if i have the power or sloop budget for that

[peak wasp]

Damn

[graceful turret]

the hard part is thinking of the building to make

i like my factories pretty

[peak wasp]

I have the big picture in my head . Gonna do clean up and start modular factories tomorrow. Almost done one

[peak wasp]

Real

Fuel/programmable& smart splitters unlocked

[graceful turret]

i love smart splitters

[gritty zealot]

i love you

[peak wasp]

😂

Programmable you can do more (I know they get hated on here)

So like have 5 modular factories close by and one depot for all of them. That goes to main hub

[graceful turret]

i have placed about 3 in my 870 hours

[frail sleet]

I would say ionized is the best, it has the same speed and doesn't irradiate. They also both have effectively infinite range.

[peak wasp]

So smart splitter is 3 items max

Programmable is more, so less smart splitters being used

Sushi cargo

[graceful turret]

this assumes i use belts for multiple item types

wich i dont

so theres no point in using it for me

[peak wasp]

Ah

So do you have modular factories and a main hub?

For specific items

Or small groups of items

[uncut trail]

is sloppy alumina recipe good?

saying yes doesnt take long time

[graceful turret]

what do you mean by modular factory

[hard ivy]

Reacting with a checkmark is faster

[glad drum]

I think I discorvered a glitch but idk how... I thought I deleted all my biomass burners but I have 1 left and it is burning the solid biofuel, but not draining it? (also not being fed any more either - it's just been running by itself forever)

edit: nvm not free power - I didn't realize biomass burners don't run unless they're specifically powering production

[gritty zealot]

Report it to ficsit and save the earth with unlimited power

[hard ivy]

Actually, why do we have a emote but no YES. emote?

Why is the snowrunner discord more advanced than us

[austere wyvern]

what if you could connect conveyor throughput monitors on signs so you could see how much your factory is producing from a location far away? would be great

[graceful turret]

free power lets go

[glad drum]

I lied - it's just paused because the factories are prioritizing the coal power rather than the biofuel

I didn't know they did that

[graceful turret]

oh

damn

[austere wyvern]

same, all of my biomass burners kept working, even when i took the fuel out and put it back in after i got coal power

[glad drum]

Yeah its only marked as "Capacity" until you need that power and doesn't burn any of the biofuel - womp womp

Cool that it does that though

[hard ivy]

They're poor man's power storage

[austere wyvern]

yeah

[glad drum]

30MW power storage LOL tru

[graceful turret]

oh god i have no oil for rubber

its over

[hard ivy]

Not just that, 1 power storage holds 800 solid biofuel worth of energy

The only benefit of biomass gens is that they provide power as soon as they're connected to the grid. Storage has to be charged first

[peak wasp]

how rare are jetpack hogs

[vestal merlin]

I try to not look things up but like... You can take out power slugs from machines right?

I haven't been overclocking or doubling anything just yet, then again I am still only on Phase 2

[hard ivy]

1 in 1000 on any alpha hog spawn

[cinder mesa]

same frfr

[faint reef]

they really should be making hard drive scanning automatable or just remove the 10 minutes. its so annoying

[peak wasp]

i never made it to phase 3 ):

[gritty zealot]

unacceptable

[peak wasp]

:(

[gritty zealot]

are you implying you have given up?

[peak wasp]

no the game gets unplayable

i drop to like 10 fps

or lower

[gritty zealot]

unacceptable, work 2 jobs and buy a new computing device capable of saving the earth

[peak wasp]

i must

downgrade from satisfactory

to mindustry

[gritty zealot]

this is also unacceptable

[dense violet]

get a mod

[small notch]

what is the alternate recipe for copper sheets?

[fluid sapphire]

steamed copper sheets

[small notch]

whats the recipe?

[white dawn]

In the future, it helps to know that you can start scanning out in "the field" as soon as you find a drive. Construct a MAM, start scanning, deconstruct MAM. It's possible to find hard drives more quickly than the scanning happens, in that case, but IME on average the scanning will be done by the time you find another

[fluid sapphire]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Copper_Sheet

[small notch]

thanks

[true mulch]

wdym

[faint reef]

yeah thats waht i am doing but i almost collected all ofthem and still got 70 to go

[ember moon]

It took me 4 hours just to make a modular frame factory holy

[white dawn]

As CobaltOfDoom mentioned, mods could help; I'm sure there's one that does what you want

[white dawn]

I have some possibly-frightening news about how the rest of the game is going to go. :)

[ember moon]

Oh god

I have noticed how much easier it is to factorio though

[cold nexus]

hello does anyone know how to imrpove builds?

[gritty zealot]

I love this game, it took me 300 hours in to build a modular frame factory

[reef basin]

that's like the most generic question I've ever seen here 😄

maybe try being more specific 😉

[ember moon]

Im not even producing them efficiently I only have 1 producing 2 modular frames per minute

[cold nexus]

the place where i have my space elevator is also where my factories are but i dont know if i should have many factories beside each other or how i should build them

[reef basin]

that's really up to you. I'd generally recommend having factories spread all over the map near nodes they need, but it's just one way to play out of many

[cold nexus]

can I build a factory from 1 node?

[ripe basin]

Uh

No, i dont think so

[reef basin]

if that factory only needs raw ore that one node can provide, sure

[ember moon]

with enough over clocking an iron node can make half the stuff you need in the game

[reef basin]

technically you can win the whole game with one node of each type

[cold nexus]

ill try to build some factories and stuff and ill see if its good

[reef basin]

if it makes what you need, it's good

[uncut trail]

guys i have problem

[gritty zealot]

Guys he has a problem

[uncut trail]

im producing 1760 fuel a min but only have mk2 pipes so i can only transfer 600 a min, what do i do

[reef basin]

build more pipes? not transport it at all?

[silk ocean]

Split it up, more pipes

[uncut trail]

thats a lotta work aint it

[reef basin]

no?

[cinder jay]

Hi

[ember moon]

I think I need to make a mega furnace tbh

Ive noticed it would be more cost effective

[silk ocean]

Like convert crater lake to a lava pit

[ember moon]

Ive also just realized I need rotors lmao

[graceful turret]

i love this games building system

its so fun

[cold nexus]

just unlocked logistics mk 3😎

[limpid cairn]

great, only 3 logistic tiers more

[hard ivy]

The last one isn't called logistics mk6 tho

Actually, that milestone's name is wrong for 2 reasons lol

[full perch]

any mod that can overclock machine automatically without shard?

[cold nexus]

why is it so hard to make versatile framework😭

[topaz shale]

It's defintely pretty tough if you aren't used to it. I decided to just hand feed the machines to make what I needed to get me through phase 3 and 2.

I think instead of using drones, I'm just going to train or belt everything I need.

[boreal musk]

dont recall any, but you can just use AGS to get powershards or use Pak Utility mod

[cold nexus]

phew my power just shut down and i thought i would have to start it all up manual again but i just had to refill one or 2 of my coal powered generator

[ripe basin]

I want helldivers 2 so bad

[limpid cairn]

its easier than most stuff tbh

[gritty zealot]

cool pfp

[frank locust]

I suggest to have separate power grid that power coal miners and water pumps. So if main fails then it doesn't affect the inputs.

[cold nexus]

but i have to build almost a whole factory for it?