satisfactory

[cursive crane]

Time to go find fabric alt recipe

[solemn crystal]

[boreal musk]

all coal reserved for diamonds

[silk ocean]

As in there are only so many that you can source (x/min)

[solemn crystal]

THE REAL QUESTION IS WHO IS USING EVERY SINGLE IRON NODE ON THE MAP 🙏

[boreal musk]

no one

[cursive crane]

Its definetely been done

[silk ocean]

Some people probably are xD

[solemn crystal]

...

[boreal musk]

theres 92k/min worth of iron in the map, even i wont be able to use half of it

[solemn crystal]

atleast you can worry about half of it
i cant use 1% of that

[silk ocean]

I doubt packaging and sinking nitrogen pays more than a pittance anyways XD

[boreal musk]

yet*

[cursive crane]

To be fair for it to count you could just hook up sinks lol

[silk ocean]

And remember it's more too because you have to generate the electricity to power the packagers xD

[solemn crystal]

power aint a problem tho

[silk ocean]

Generally not no

[solemn crystal]

wait yall have power problems

[cursive crane]

Y e t

[solemn crystal]

tell that to the tower of biomass burners i have at the side of my factory

-# theyre like 100 GW

[silk ocean]

Sucking nitrogen out of the ground, sticking it in a can and sinking it seems a waste of effort to me XD

[cursive crane]

Lategame power consumption of single machines measures double digit Gw

One partical accel is like 20gw

[light ginkgo]

send pic

[solemn crystal]

uh huh

and i have 100 gigawatt worth

but like i cant sustainall of them

[cursive crane]

Sweet you can run 5 late game machines

[solemn crystal]

isnt particle accelerator 1.5gw?

🙏

[cursive crane]

Am i wrong?

[boreal musk]

fully oc and slooped

[solemn crystal]

of course 🙏

yea but i have like 5 APAS which.. isnt alot-

id better get to polluting the planet

[cursive crane]

How far are you?

[solemn crystal]

pre tier 9

ohhh wait you guys play this game too much..

my condolences

[cursive crane]

Gaem fun

[light ginkgo]

Game fun.

[solemn crystal]

its not fun when i accidentally put iron plates into 7 sets of coal conveyor splitters and my coal foundaries shut down

[shy mulch]

I'm using way more than that

[solemn crystal]

😭

ok note to self
if i ever want to play with a beginner satisfactory
DO NOT TELL THEM ABOUT THE DISCORD
THEIR DREAMS WILL BE SHATTERED INTO NOTHING BUT DUST

[magic yarrow]

is there anyway to move things instead of having to dismantle them and rebuild

[solemn crystal]

dont dismantle them
yea but in all seriousness thats why blueprints exist

buutt you cant exactly move already placed objects

[magic yarrow]

the thing im trying to move is in my blueprint 😟

[solemn crystal]

oh no

but what is it
if its just 1 build just copy paste the config

[reef basin]

yeah, it's heavily recommended to not watch tutorials and ask on discord on your first playthrough (legit)

[magic yarrow]

its a whole like support part which has been twisted and mashed with different parts

[solemn crystal]

i have to live with the fact that there are people in this world that make factories so big they are just counting the seconds for the next GPU to come out so they can continue building the factory

[solemn crystal]

i have idea
save the blueprint
clear everything in the designer
then relocate everything

inside the designer

[magic yarrow]

will give it a go

[solemn crystal]

dont yety

save so you dont break anything incase the worst

[cursive crane]

If you go to dismantle, then press.... r? Or e..can't remember which it is, you can go into blueprint dismantle mode and dismantle the whole thing

Not sure if thats what you are looking for

[magic yarrow]

i know about this thank you tho

i was more trying to move one whole thing

but my blueprint designer isnt even big enough to do it any way 😢

[cursive crane]

Best way is to make any major repeated piece its own blueprint as well lmao

Could always make a
Pt1, Pt 2 blueprint

Split it in half/sections

[magic yarrow]

im doing it for a train system so these are supports, may be a pain to do it like that

but im still trying to figure it out

100 hours later

[cursive crane]

Yea ive resolved to just allowing my train lines to float if they have to because building the support part of it drives me insane

[peak wasp]

do any of you do modular factors at nodes?

[steady glade]

ye i do, generally i'll make towers of refineries

[ivory condor]

I didn't know you knew me

[peak wasp]

I'm thinking to make modular for every item and transporting it to my main hub, which will be storage

[ivory condor]

But I think im counting the days tell I get a cpu that hopefully won't act like its having a melt down playing this game

[peak wasp]

up to tractors atm, but the routes sometimes deadlock

[steady glade]

i generally make a small amount of stuff, enough for the dd, except for very few cases like concrete and wire, i dont need any item in quantities so outrageous i need a central depot

[peak wasp]

this playthrough I wanted to have every item, and shut down modular factories if not using

land air and sea

oh we can't do sea yet

so just rail, road, drone, train

[silk ocean]

Is there any reason to do a power tower without platform? The mats seem the same

[steady glade]

aesthetics

[hard ivy]

The platform looks kinda ugly

I only use platform ones next to my factories

[silk ocean]

I guess so yea, lil'bit

[hard ivy]

The ones between factories are without platforms

[silk ocean]

Makes sense

I'm a little surprised the platform ones don't cost at least a little bit more mats

[steady glade]

foundations all cost the same

[silk ocean]

Yar

I guess it's like buying a S, M or XXL T-Shirt... same price xD

[peak wasp]

I started to not use platforms

straight in the dirt

[silk ocean]

Free and back to nature xD

These iron plates are 100% organic

[pallid elm]

does anyone have a mod making round concrete beams paintable?

its quite sad they arent naturally paintable

[silk ocean]

I take it there is no way to drop a repeat building configured with the settings you have copied

[hard ivy]

middle click???

[silk ocean]

Uh oh xD

[fossil ice]

Official Modding Discord

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[silk ocean]

Broken xD

Need a new mouse 😄

[hard ivy]

you can probably rebind it to another button

[silk ocean]

Yea mouse 4/5 are my go-to's / often breaks other bindings

[true mulch]

with the configuration?

[hard ivy]

yes

it's a new feature

1.1?

[silk ocean]

Wish I knew that about 500 hours ago XD

[boreal musk]

it is added in 1.1

copying building's config with middle mouse

[silk ocean]

Yea just tried it, works good

[hard ivy]

actually, does it paste shards too? never tested that

[boreal musk]

it does

literally everything in that machine will pasted into other machine

[silk ocean]

Yep I copied with 2 in each

[boreal musk]

granted you have the shards/sloop in your inv

[limpid cairn]

Guys is 100 ai limiter p/m much?

[hard ivy]

I wish when you typed in a clock speed above 100%, it'd pull out shards from your inv/depot automatically

[silk ocean]

Be quite nice when pressing O that the search box is default like when pressing N xD

or just press N xD

[silk ocean]

100/min of AI Limiters is a lot xD

[limpid cairn]

No wonder I’m using like 1k copper for it

[fluid sapphire]

You only need a small supply as a building material, are these going anywhere? If not, what are they for

[hard ivy]

also, why tf do people keep usingg "p/m"?? not only is it wrong, nowhere does the game use anything even close to that

[limpid cairn]

the game uses it in every building

its meant to be per min

[hard ivy]

???

it says per min or per minute

/min sometimes too

nowhere does it say "p/m"

[fluid sapphire]

Does it matter

[hard ivy]

it's confusing for no reason

[fluid sapphire]

No one was confused?

[steady glade]

parts/minute

generic term

[true mulch]

parts per meter?

[hard ivy]

ah, yes, because "100 AI limter parts per meter" is a sentence that totally makes sense

[steady glade]

annoying but still makes sense considering ai limiters are used as parts for other crafts

[hexed phoenix]

When will people do P/F (Parts per Frame) ?

Would be a volatile enough number that people find it useful as your FPS will fluctuate during game play, which some will find some obscure scenario where they find it useful..

[steady glade]

actual insanity

[true mulch]

I'm like 99% sure Factorio players use "science per tick"

[hexed phoenix]

Factorio players are also from another Realm than the rest of society 🙈

[hard ivy]

never heard that one

[boreal musk]

wait since when can we mass dismantle in blueprint mode?

[hard ivy]

we can?

[boreal musk]

oh nvm, that was from infinite dismantling mod, lmao

i forgot i had this mod enabled

wish it was in vanilla tho

[wary sparrow]

hey guys

so I wanna add mods to my server

[steady glade]

helloo

[wary sparrow]

how would I go about doing that

i sent a screesnshot on the dedicated servers channel

[shy mulch]

kMW/p/m

[plush dawn]

do you guys have any tips for building big factories but still looking good in the environment

[ivory condor]

Parts per millisecond

[small notch]

#screenshots how do i get rid of this big rock

[sweet tusk]

Man am I excited for console release, because my PC starts to run pretty slowly as soon as minimal steel production

[ivory condor]

How are expecting console to save that

[sweet tusk]

My console is more powerful than my PC

Especially graphically

[ivory condor]

Pc hardware is generally stronger than what you have with consoles

[sweet tusk]

Not mine.

She's getting old

[ivory condor]

Oh I see

[plush dawn]

although price to performace wise consoles can be better

its just you cant upgrade them...

[sweet tusk]

Eventually I just stopped upgrading my PC and bought a PS5 Pro because I like console gaming better anyways

[plush dawn]

speaking of consoles im trying to install linux to my xbox right now

[sweet tusk]

Ooh, how's that going for you

[plush dawn]

xbox kept whining and didnt let me install the app i needed untill i updated it

[ivory condor]

True not everyone can afford the kidneys required for latest hardware anymore as prices for some things like gpus has gone out of this world

[sweet tusk]

Until you updated the Xbox?

[silk ocean]

Isn't the next gen xbox basically Microsoft have said it's a PC now

[sweet tusk]

Basically

[plush dawn]

i cant find an rx580 under $80

[silk ocean]

I mean they kinda are already

[limpid cairn]

bruh i accidently nuked my power grid with using 4 manufactors that are fully overclocked with sloops

[sweet tusk]

I did just leave Xbox for the current gen though. I've been on Xbox until now

[ivory condor]

Hmmm ok

[sweet tusk]

What's your goal with doing that though?

[plush dawn]

its useless to me as a console right now so i want to make it do something useful

[sweet tusk]

More PC-esque

[plush dawn]

as a linux install it will be much more flexible than xbox

[sweet tusk]

True. I've never used linux but I've heard people say it's nice because you can do a lot with it. You just have to do it yourself a lot.

[plush dawn]

its mostly just the customization

i found a way to essentially turn it into a tv desktop

[hexed phoenix]

Linux on an X-Box..

I mean why not :)

Could turn out to be a decent media center

[plush dawn]

using a tv desktop environment and a trackpad remote

[prime jasper]

What are your thoughts on turbo rifle ammo?

[sweet tusk]

Still planning on using a controller or are you using K&M?

[hexed phoenix]

=

[ivory condor]

I dont i know i dont do combat in this game

[plush dawn]

i dont know, i have a remote with a trackpad, i have a spare wireless keyboard and also extra controller, so i could really use any

[ivory condor]

Closet i get is just throw nuke nobelisks until things stop moving

[hexed phoenix]

-# Which is still combat - just the easy way to avoid it long term :D

[plush dawn]

i havent gotten to guns yet so ive just been running around with the xeno basher and a few explosives

[sweet tusk]

Combat is not a big thing in the game but if you do end up automating rifle ammo, I think it sinks decently

[prime jasper]

You think explosive rebar is better?

It does a lot of damage per projectile, but isn't it very slow?

[sweet tusk]

Nuke nobelisks are okay against alien mega fauna

[prime jasper]

I haven't unlocked them yet. But I should probably unlock the nuclear stuff soon

I just need a supercomputer factory first

[hard ivy]

a video 2 hours early???

[faint reef]

so my space elevator just vanished

why???

[sweet tusk]

Don't worry, it's just on holiday. It'll be back

[hexed phoenix]

Usually around 3 direct hit from Explosive Rebars and Nuclear Hogs and Green spiderthingy is 💀

[silk rose]

what shelfs do?

[hexed phoenix]

Deco i guess

[silk rose]

can i put items on it

[faint reef]

it actually just vanished after i died

[sweet tusk]

It won't let you build another?

Maybe try quitting out and restarting

[hexed phoenix]

I havn't really played in 1.1 so havn't tried them out..

But seems like you can place items on the shelves yeah

[silk rose]

i dont know how :C

i can only build crates

[sweet tusk]

I think shelves are an awesome shop thing

[silk rose]

yes, i want to put items on them

[white dawn]

Yeah, current implementation for shelves only places personal container boxes in there

[sweet tusk]

Oh I thought you meant you couldn't build any shelves

[silk rose]

oh thats stupid but i hope they will make them better

[white dawn]

You can manually drop items onto the shelves but it's a painstaking process to get them lined up properly

[silk rose]

oh thank you

[white dawn]

The shot with the shelves in the 1.1 reveal trailer apparently took them ages to set up

[silk rose]

they made me hope

[white dawn]

Yeah, it's a bit weird that they didn't just let you attach any arbitrary items

[hexed phoenix]

Would be too easy for Pioneers..

The fact they struggled with putting items on shelves, sort of should be a sign.. Is this what we want :D

[fluid sapphire]

I set up a lot of shelves I was planning to use as decoration only to discover that I couldn't put items on them

[river oriole]

after 2 hours of scanning hard drives i finally got the recipe i needed

[shy mulch]

A nice trick if you're out hunting for hard drives, is whenever you find one, build a mam and start the scanning, then delete the mam. Doesn't require any power and will just continue scanning in the background. So you've got less waiting to do when you're done your hunt and get back to base

[prime jasper]

For how cheap a mam actually is, I often leave it on the spot if it looks good.

I often make some small bases around when I explore (with workbench, equipment workbench etc...) and adding a mam to them often looks good.

[shy mulch]

If you like doing that kind of thing, maybe worth putting a few of those "base" buildings into a blueprint you can stamp out in nice spots around the world

[upbeat jacinth]

Finally aimated baking for birthday event

[prime jasper]

Yes, I literally realised this when writing my text down lol.

Sometimes you don't realise stuff until you actually phrase it down.😅

[dense violet]

Absolute tons of pre planning

location, logistics, where buildings are going to go, how they will interconnect

down to noting down where belts and pipes will be and where they will be going. Planned in advance

also practice. Expect your first couple to be not good

[barren dove]

When you planned it, double the space. Then just before building it. Double it again xD

[true mulch]

When working with floor layouts, keep a 2 foundation wide margin around the actual factory

You might be very grateful for it later

[runic bolt]

yup
I doubled the size of my factory once, but now im running out of space cus i didnt do it twice

[barren dove]

And even. If you dont want to build logistic floors. Build the space anyway xD

[true mulch]

Never understood the appeal of a logistics floor

Drawing the belts to a separate floor just means more belts to accomplish the same

[barren dove]

Well, you got logistic floors and you got logistic floors with spaghetti and a tarp to hide it all

[true mulch]

That's just lasagna

[mortal ginkgo]

for me it is cool to see buildings working purely without any visuals of belt.

other than that, logistics floor is same as having walk paths above the buildings like devs have made for some buildings.

funny enough I even work to make logistic floors look good, I am really not good at saving kitties and puppies in time.

[true mulch]

Well each to their own lol

Not like my factories are perfectly organized

[mortal ginkgo]

MADNESS D:

[true mulch]

I like to cramp them a lot but without clipping, while still trying to keep clear what's where

No need to make room for walking in a factory that doesn't need human intervention

[mortal ginkgo]

but but I like walking around :<

[ocean fulcrum]

Love the editing style of the new video - kudos to whoever did it!

[true mulch]

Oh so do I, I can't help myself 😁😁

[mortal ginkgo]

I liked the video too but I wish it wasnt a "coming soon" for future plans of the game. o'well.

[true mulch]

Can't wait to watch it once I'm home

Juicy info to put on the wiki I assume

[white dawn]

Interesting that there'll be an "anniversary event" of some sort. I wonder if that'll be new "seasonal content" ingame or something outside of the game

[true mulch]

More seasonal events would be cool. I mean there's just two

[mortal ginkgo]

what I mean is, it was a "we will talk to you soon about it" video

[white dawn]

Temper your expectations somewhat; there's very little solid info on there.

[mortal ginkgo]

they didnt give any info about 1.2

[white dawn]

I'm not even sure what the "hint" was that they teased. Anyone good at lip-reading in here? Was wondering what Jason was saying

[true mulch]

Ah I didn't quite get what you meant at first

[mortal ginkgo]

he said they will talk about it all after he is back from Animeland

[mortal ginkgo]

yeah sorry but alas, no news at all for 1.2 😭

[white dawn]

I took the phrasing to mean that today's video did contain a hint as to something coming up; I assumed it was probably in Jason's muted audio, though possibly not. :D

[mortal ginkgo]

I dont think so. Even if they hinted it, it is vague as much as my life's romance options; truly vague to a point of no return

[river oriole]

Hey guys, if i make 3 heavy modular frames/min and i need 2 to go into storage and 1 into the adaptive control unit can i just put a 60/min conveyor going into the adaptive control unit and a 120/min conveyor going into storage?

[rustic hare]

or just merge 2 outputs of a splitter into one and let that go to storage?

[smoky forge]

how do i open my blueprints again when i want to transfer them between saves?

[river oriole]

i guess that works

thanks

[white dawn]

No, splitters just round-robin their outputs. It'd be 50/50 between the two outputs

[smoky forge]

on my pc not ingame

[rustic hare]

%localappdata%/Factorygame/ etc...

[smoky forge]

oh in factorygame

[white dawn]

Putting a mk1+mk2 on a splitter would guarantee that the mk1 side gets a maximum of 60/min, but you'd need at least 120/min input to the splitter before that becomes apparent

[smoky forge]

there are no folders named after blueprints

[smoky forge]

in there

[rustic hare]

it's in your save games then blueprints and save file name or smth

[white dawn]

But yeah, if you've got a resource being produced and want that output to go to more than one place, IMO generally it's easiest by far to just have separate machines producing the output specifically for those exports

[smoky forge]

#screenshots message i have this

[white dawn]

You can always just rely on "manifold logic" to even it out, of course. Split evenly between your ACUs and storage, in this case, which would result in 1.5/min going to both. Your ACUs are getting more than they need, so that would eventually back up and you'd have 2/min going to storage

Or or, use a smart splitter to send the full 3/min to ACU, and then once that backs up the overflow goes into storage

[smoky forge]

i dont have "saved"

[rustic hare]

idk then

[smoky forge]

bruh

[white dawn]

But I still tend to think that specific machines for specific exports is typically the best way to do it

[solid storm]

Hmm, not making sense? I have 6 coal gens running, and they are not providing power over a long distance?

[smoky forge]

oh now it pops up

weird

[dense turtle]

redstone flux?

[white dawn]

Generators will provide power to the entire grid they're plugged into. Are you sure your grid's fully connected? There's no distance falloff or whatever

[white dawn]

Rocket Fuel, presumably. :)

[rustic hare]

wrong game 😂

[solid storm]

I had forgotten I cut a wire down the line earlier....it's working now...ty

[small notch]

hi

[hard ivy]

rocket fuel lol

[leaden turret]

@obsidian zodiac why you been googling toilet rental?

[cinder mesa]

chat whats a good amount of nuclear power plants?

[hexed phoenix]

About 9000 seems pretty decent amount :P

[cinder mesa]

ty

[fresh harbor]

Do we know/have ideas on what the anniversary event is?

[leaden turret]

it involves toilet rental and bean balloons

[fresh harbor]

[deep dock]

Steve!

[leaden turret]

anniversary shopping list

• bean balloon
• pizza
• mixtape
• princesstarta

Prinsesstårta
This Swedish layer cake is great fun - bright green and full of custard, jam, marzipan, and a mound of whipped cream!

<@&370483737957236737> I feel like a satisfactory anniversary Prinsesstårta should be ficsit orange, not green

sounds like they're having an outdoor party rather than an indoor one

[jaunty ridge]

does annyone know where i can find my early acces save games

[smoky forge]

%localappdata%/Factorygame/ maby

[leaden turret]

either that or @obsidian zodiac is putting a portapotty in the new office basement so if the basement pooper is still working at CSS they don't make a mess

[leaden turret]

same place your current ones are

[jaunty ridge]

they are nbot there

[leaden turret]

you got cloud sync problems then?

[limpid cairn]

guys

how can one of my pips like not transport any liquid while the other one (legit duplicate of the pipe im talking about) is completely full of liquid

i found the issue i think

[reef basin]

Fullness of pipe is something different than how much it moves

[limpid cairn]

the pipe cant move anything when its completely empty

also, i found the issue, i crafted the resin not fast enough into rubber so it clocked up and didnt produce enough HOR

[fossil ice]

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[spare sparrow]

Hello guys can anyone Help me with Blueprints?
I have the problem that i downloaded Blueprints and have added it to my game but all names are like blurry and i cannot read the names.

[silk ocean]

You might need to go to #1038092680493801533 if nobody here knows 🙂

[rough swift]

I am in a bit of a mental pickle, I just finished getting nuclear power setup and get 5kMW but I have a whole system setup for Fuel Power (train system and all) that generates ~3kMW, my factory at MAX only takes ~2kMW should I put in the time and effort to remove my Fuel Factory or hold off on nuclear power until my power requirements are more sizeable?

would love some suggestions

for context I am fairly new to the game still sitting at 100 hours

[willow glen]

let it all run and enjoy the bonus power, and being worry free for a long time.
There’s plenty more oil on the map, but if you wanna deconstruct the working fuel plant, I’d wait until you have a plan for the nodes it’s using

[heavy pine]

Yeah, unless you need to take down the fuel-powered generators, might as well keep them running for a bit of extra juice while you expand other parts of the factory.

[willow glen]

Also kMW is hard to read, it’s GW, and usually I have about 40-60GW from rocket fuel or nuclear before I finish the game

[heavy pine]

I am determined to finally set up nuclear power in my current run. There's just so much to it, and I don't want to depend on bringing in materials from across the map on trains or other vehichles.

[rough swift]

it really was a long roadmap but once you get it setup and automated like everything else its amazing

[bright helm]

Why does my game keep crashing in 5 seconds after I load my save?

[rough swift]

thank you very much for the suggestions

[heavy pine]

I'm waiting until I can turn the waste into plutonium rods that I can then sink to get rid of them. And then maybe once I get to ficsonium I'll start using the plutonium for more power and convert its waste into ficsonium.

[reef basin]

Afaik pipe can be empty and still move fluids

[willow glen]

I usually import plastic, copper, and aluminum, but I always seem to choose the swamp lol

[rough swift]

I would definitely need to improve or even rework my entire logistics system as it was very sloppily put together.

[willow glen]

trains are great, once it’s on a train you can just drop a station anywhere along the tracks and boom it gets delivered

[rough swift]

I am currently using trucks and trains

trucks for anything around 750m and trains for anything beyond

[willow glen]

trucks are fine for short paths but long paths still give me nightmares… so much falling off and re-recording

[rough swift]

OMG dont remind me

[willow glen]

I always make a coal tractor for steel tho, it’s just easy to do since the fuel is right there

[rough swift]

Exactly what im using them for atm aswell

I do Copper aswell because the nodes were closer to the station than my base

[willow glen]

for dune desert start I always put my base at the north oasis, which is far away from that nice group of copper down south. Trains solve that later when I need it (thanks nuclear pasta)

[rough swift]

I ran Rocky Desert when I started, I wonder if I shouldve chose the dunes

[willow glen]

no lol, Rocky desert is the best start imo. The only advantage to dune desert is tons of iron and space - you’re boxed in by difficult enemies and the swamp so oil and aluminum require extra logistics over Rocky desert or grassy fields.

those being two major quit points for new players

[rough swift]

gotcha thanks for the confirmation, the only for advanced pioneers scared me off as I am simply an adequate pioneer

[unkempt blade]

Dune Desert always felt ok from an available resources angle but the terrain of the dunes themselves makes me crazy to build on

[rough swift]

I just plop a big plane in the sky

maybe ill focus on building real factorys when I redo my logistics

[unkempt blade]

yeah I just never felt like anywhere else made me build up like 30m~ before I could build a flat surface without terrain poking through

[rough swift]

those pesky little rocks that poke unreasonibly high up made me build in the sky lmao

[willow glen]

I mean, you do have to build on top of the dunes, but it’s still more reasonable than the other starts (rocky desert boxes you in with cliffs east and south, grassy plains is a literal crater, and northern forest is a cliff nightmare). But those 3 you’re intended to expand out of earlier I think; especially since rocky desert and grassy plains are so close together.

[heavy pine]

I started on a train network but haven't actually set up any trains to deliver anything. And then I got to drones and saw how easy they are to set up.

[rough swift]

I am excited about drones

[heavy pine]

Though I'll need something better than standard Fuel to power them. Somewhat tempted to set up batteries just for the drones.

[rough swift]

Why arent they used as much?

do they not have good storage or something?

[unkempt blade]

I'd say rocky and grassy both are mostly flat for a large area near where you spawn. The forest for sure requires a ramp/some setup but the base of the cliffs has a very large flat area

[willow glen]

batteries and rocket fuel are roughly equal for drones; you might already have a rocket fuel plant that can be used for drone fuel, making that the easier option. Batteries are useful for an alt, which makes them preferred otherwise. But it’s really up to you, both are great.

[unkempt blade]

At this point if I'm in a utilitarian mood I'd use something oil based because there's TONS of extra oil and it's mostly pretty easy to get. Bauxite and sulfur for the batteries are a bit less common and there's often other stuff I want to do with them

I do think the battery recipe is a fun build though

[hard ivy]

battteries are generally harder and more expensive to make tho

[willow glen]

The way I see it is either I make batteries for drones and the alt that uses them, or I just use rocket fuel for everything.

[white dawn]

Yeah, batteries are definitely a niche thing now; they used to be required for an Elevator part, but they're easily skipped now

[unkempt blade]

and variety is the spice of life so roll a dice to decide which fuel drones get 😄

[heavy pine]

I'm setting that aside for now. I need to set up production for EM Control Rods, Heat Sinks, Cooling Systems, and Turbo Motors.

[willow glen]

sushi merger dice roll (too bad it’ll jam and say not enough fuel tho)

[white dawn]

The one thing (IMO) which could make someone go to batteries for drone/vehicle fuel instead of Rocket Fuel is just that packaging RF requires aluminum anyway, and if you don't have the spare aluminum yet to package the RF, then one might be in the mindset that it's just One More Step™ when you set up your new aluminum plant to support it

(which is basically what I did when I first started setting up drones, though I did move to RF once my battery supply started getting tight)

[unkempt blade]

oh man, an RNG merger would be stupid but really fun

[white dawn]

(There's also the one alt recipe which uses batteries, so it's possible one might want batteries for that)

[scenic mirage]

is it possible to fit a train loop in a m2 blueprint designer? like after a train station to get it to turn around

[unkempt blade]

packaged fuel has downsides but it's so nice just being able to do the entire thing from oil (and water if using diluted) instead of bringing in a bunch of other resources

[hard ivy]

batts take more alu than packaged RF tho. so you might as well include empty tanks instead of batts into your alu factory

[feral geyser]

Rocky desert and grassy plains are not close

NE corner vs S center

[feral geyser]

Batteries last longer

[white dawn]

It's a question of convenience for sure, though -- was easier in my case to just make batteries onsite instead of having to then ship the aluminum over to where it was convenient to make Rocket Fuel. Not impossible, of course, but I did want to use drones for logistics at the time, and using drones would've meant needing the Packaged RF already, had I done that. :D

[white dawn]

They don't; Rocket Fuel is slightly better for energy efficiency.

[hard ivy]

*RF lasts longer

[white dawn]

Drone speed is the same for RF vs. Batteries, though

[crude canyon]

Satisfatory challenge idea.
Your mission is not to finish phase 5, but the golden nut

1000 coupons!

[hard ivy]

I often get that before phase 5 lol

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch drone

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=drone

[feral geyser]

I found it

Thats BS, I remember it differently

Either way, f that, I dont want my drones eating my aluminum tanks

They get batteries or turbofuel

[limpid cairn]

Dunes suck

you have no water

[white dawn]

I mean, if your problem is aluminum efficiency, as KYO297 said, batteries require more aluminum than tanks do

[limpid cairn]

there’s like only iron and copper there

[white dawn]

So if you're trying to optimize bauxite, Packaged Rocket Fuel wins out over Batteries

[hard ivy]

??? batts cost more alu than the tanks
like double, too

[feral geyser]

That's not the problem

[white dawn]

(not that Batteries or RF are your only choices, of course)

[azure ermine]

I was making batteries towards making supercomputers, but until I saw the drone discussion I had no idea they were a fuel type 🙂

[unkempt blade]

gotta go straight for plutonium fuel rods imo, ficsonium is meh and my uranium waste has to go somewhere!

[dense violet]

I imagine you'd use more bauxite per fuel using batteries vs RF

[hard ivy]

we all know that plut rods are the best fuel lol

[white dawn]

Guess I don't understand your aversion to drones eating aluminum tanks, then. It's just some aluminum in the end; if the thing you want to use instead is Batteries then you're using more aluminum to do so

[crude canyon]

OC supercomputers!

[hard ivy]

ew

[white dawn]

Yeah, I know that's popular, but personally I can't imagine ever wasting rods on drone fuel when the other fuel choices for drones are so cheap in comparison. (Combined with the fact that I can't imagine not burning Plutonium Rods, if I'm making them. :)

Like you're turning down hundreds of GW of power just to irradiate some drone ports. Doesn't feel like a worthwhile tradeoff to me. :)

I'd much rather just store the Pu Waste (or do Ficsonium)

[unkempt blade]

Packaged fuel or plutonium and nothing in between! Go big or go fuel!

[dense violet]

plutonium rods are free fuel. No need to generate waste with them

[white dawn]

Right, I know that's how a lot of folks think. Not myself, though; if I'm making fuel rods, they're getting used for power. The lost power from not burning them is just too high for me

[azure ermine]

does it make sense in a physics sense for batteries to be fuel? (I know it's a game.) You can put a battery together with rubber and sulfur and copper but in the end you have a dead battery until it's charged, in fact there are stationary batteries ingame you have to charge. So how does a battery have any power as fuel?

[unkempt blade]

but they could also be precious coupons!

[dense violet]

the cost of plu rods go towards not having permanent waste

[white dawn]

I've got SE parts for that. :D

[white dawn]

Yeah, I also don't mind waste. :)

(And also, I do like Ficsonium, so I'm likely to just process the full chain)

[hard ivy]

batteries used to be the only drone fuel. so presumably the drones used to have electric engines

[white dawn]

I've done plenty of nuclear waste storage on previous playthroughs; just isn't a problem for me

[glad drum]

There's a reason people are asking for "logic" in the game 😉

[unkempt blade]

in like U6 we moved waste way off to the side of the map with trains but every so often someone would get too close at the wrong time and get irradiated... it was pretty entertaining

[azure ermine]

if it was entertaining, was it really waste? 😉

[crude canyon]

You charge it when you're making it

[crude canyon]

We do have logic

I know, I'm the guy making calculators

[glad drum]

I figured they're just mispelling spaghetti

[crude canyon]

I think it's also funny that there is programming in this game but so far I haven't seen anything special

[small notch]

#screenshots finally finished my big platform

[crude canyon]

With the programming mod

[azure ermine]

I had paved over the southern void to use for building space, at about the level of the Grassy Start area, but when it got over by the waterfalls from the eastern sea it gets super foggy. So I tried turning off the fog, but immediately turned it back on again

turns out the fog is a big part of making the world seem world sized and not someone's model train set

[unkempt blade]

sounds like a perfect place for a factory cart skate park

[azure ermine]

it was weird being able to see the wave texture way down at the bottom of the void 🙂

r.Fog 0 and r.Fog 1 to turn it off and back on if you want a peek

on the command line at the tilde ~

[bright helm]

How to lower radiation level on my body?

[leaden turret]

don't be near radioactive stuff

[hardy thistle]

I guys! Is there a website or channel where I can get ideas or tips on how to build in a way that saves space? When I do this, everything ends up misaligned and takes up a lot of space. Thank you.

[bright helm]

I mined 2 uranium ores. Now I am fully radiated. Only way to remove radiation is to load my earlier save?

[feral geyser]

Vertical logistics is very handy. Lift up to the ceiling, do beltwork below the floor above.

[feral geyser]

If you sort inventory while radioactive stuff is in there, the radiation become persistent. It's a bug. You just need to close and reload the world and it'll be fine.

[dense violet]

drop it on the ground

[shy mulch]

or delete it

[bright helm]

Ok idk why I didnt think about getting rid of it

[shy mulch]

there's a trash bin icon on the bottom right corner of your inventory, drag it there, done

[bright helm]

Maybe I forgot I had some uranium in my inventory

[flint aspen]

You can flush it down the toilet in the hub

[hardy thistle]

but for those who are just starting out I still can't

but thanks for the tip

[feral geyser]

You get lifts on tier 1 logistics as like, the first milestone.

[solid mason]

does building around factories reduce lag?

[feral geyser]

Building around, as in, building walls to cover them?

[solid mason]

yeah

it seems logical to me since im not seeing the machines

[limpid cairn]

pretty sure youre still rendering the machines but im not sure

so it shouldnt reduce lag

[mortal ginkgo]

yes, as long as they are completely invisible. all objects in Unreal has an occlusion zone, imagine like a large box where unreal calculates whether the building should be rendered or not. as long as tiny bit of that box is visible to the camera, it will be fully visible

TLDR: covering it 100% reduces lag indeed.

[solid mason]

so i could techincally add windows but put black colored walls behind them for still good looks

[mortal ginkgo]

you could say that, consider that windows are an expensive version of the walls for obvious reasons, but shouldn't cause big issues.

[sudden galleon]

is satisfactory much heavier now or is my pc trash?

it keeps crashing even on low

[heavy pine]

I hadn't thought to cover my buildings as a performance imrpovement. I tend to just leave them bare.

[limpid cairn]

send the crashlog in #1038092680493801533

[sudden galleon]

thank you

[unkempt blade]

But then I'm doing all those factory carts for nothing! I need to be able to see inside to see the carts!

[limpid cairn]

i wonder when the devs will add camera movement with the arrow keys

[mortal ginkgo]

I think my previous save where I had a logistic floor in the entire zone of my factory where I hide belts and tractors going around would get you a heart attack then

[unkempt blade]

you can already do that, just enter a factory cart and steer it towards what you want to look at

[limpid cairn]

doesnt work

its 3rd eprson not 1st person

[unkempt blade]

yeah but it's important to keep the cart visible or it doesn't bring joy

[ivory condor]

Hmmm I wonder if all objects actually use occulison, mainly because I have seen performance issues with signs, that almost seems to indicate occlusion isnt working the same as other buildings, aka even looking in the general direction of where signs are causes enough of a performance drop that I do have to wonder about that

[muted marsh]

heey! 😄 new to Satisfactory. got this game like yesterday. any tips are welcome cuz this game is huge 😮

[vale grotto]

Biggest tip for beginners: any production is greater than zero. Make at least some product, then eventually it'll build up and up and you'll have an unlimited supply

[ivory condor]

Don't build everything in the same area, save your fps

Or build it all in the same biome if you enjoy pain

[vale grotto]

You have a huge map to explore, go exploring!!

Also, all of the starting areas exist on the same map. There's only one map, you just get to choose where on that map you spawn

[muted marsh]

i was wondering if this was one map 😮

thanks alot everyone for the great tips 😄

[crisp barn]

why is ghosting so bad in this game

[silk ocean]

Your monitor? xD

[crisp barn]

no, the taa ghosting

[silk ocean]

Oh I'm using DLSS, would have to try TAA

[crisp barn]

dlss is taa

[silk ocean]

You are indeed right XD

Haven't seen any ghosting personally

[crisp barn]

just with upscaling

[silk ocean]

Ah I'm not upscaling

[crisp barn]

I notice it a lot while building or moving fast (up a ladder for example)

[crisp barn]

taa just means it uses previous frames for anti aliasing

[silk ocean]

I'm sure in some games / many games, TAA is a separate entity

i.e. an option in the AA list, like SMAA, TAA, etc

[crisp barn]

dlss is taa + their ai alghorithm. If you set it 100% its dlaa, which is basically taa but uses ai for better anti aliasing

[gaunt tulip]

@obsidian zodiac - Saw the #announcements message. I learned about the Youtube Shorts you have been posting, but I have never seen those since I don't monitor YouTube and I primarily get my Satisfactory News via the Official Reddit.
👉 Could you post future YT Shorts on the Official Reddit so others like myself can view and comment on. Thanks.

[crisp barn]

but they both still rely on previous frames, which causes ghosting during fast movement

unless its implemented properly, which its 99% of the times isnt

[silk ocean]

Are you sure? I could have imagined it but TAA was around long before DLSS

[crisp barn]

yes

dlss is based on taa

but uses AI for upscaling/anti aliasing

[silk ocean]

the wikipedia page even actually says "the technique inevitably causes ghosting and blurriness to the image" xD

[lost wagon]

Ghost happens without dlss too, it's unreal 5 moment

[silk ocean]

Unreal has often had a kinda "dreamy" feel to it, at least in the past I thought

Kinda like it XD

[crisp barn]

its very visible on dismantle tool

its not as bad in satisfactory due to the style of the game, but in other games it can get very annoyinng

[silk ocean]

If I swipe the orange highlight around the foundations, as in you can see a trail behind?

[crisp barn]

yes

[silk ocean]

I always figured that was motion blur

I have that turned on

[crisp barn]

you can see its not present if you disable all anti aliasing

[solid storm]

What does it mean when the power lights turn yellow occasionally?

[hard ivy]

it means the machines is currently not running

due to missing input or full output

[solid storm]

it's somewhat hard to place everything the way it's supposed to be without that jetpack.....I would imagine that is why I get the yellow lights from time to time?

[hard ivy]

how is the jetpack relevant?

light is yellow because the machine is not running, because the conditions for it to run are not met

[solid storm]

placing larger objects so that they are always aligned.....just a guess mind you.

[hard ivy]

this has nothing to do with machine placement

[solid storm]

could it be the way the power poles are used then?

[silk ocean]

Yea it's better for sure, just the nature of it I guess

[limpid cairn]

No

[limpid cairn]

Here’s the answer

[hard ivy]

there's also the hoverpack bug

that's the only other thing that can cause the lights to go yellow

[solid storm]

if you mean johnny....haven't seen him yet., so no pack.

[hard ivy]

either that or machine contents do not allow the machine to run. that's it

[hard ivy]

hoverpack, not jetpack. the tier 7 thing

[silk ocean]

Wow, first time I have screwed up path signaling (admittedly a complex multi intersection block) - suddenly 8 flashing exclamation marks and carnage when I arrived, trains and cars everywhere

[solid storm]

lol, trying to get there now....it's slow

[vale grotto]

Yeah literally the only thing this means is that your machine has too little input, or too full and output

[azure ermine]

I think it was making aluminum that I first encountered recipes that could stutter because they made like 15 items at a time so getting the product out of the machine so it could cycle again took a short but not zero length of time

[solid storm]

I figured 6 coal gens would be enough to get it done....but maybe I needed 8?

[vale grotto]

What are you needing to power? What's the total consumption on your network?

[hard ivy]

the amount of items produced per cycle doesn't really matter unless the amount is more than half a stack

[azure ermine]

3 water to 8 coal gens seems to be pretty ideal

[hard ivy]

... power supply has nothing to do with yellow lights on machines

[silk ocean]

Ditch DLSS/TAA and switch to FXAA?

[crisp barn]

it doesnt solve shimmering sadly

[solid storm]

Where do I see that info?

[silk ocean]

Hmm

[vale grotto]

[E] on a power pole or generator

[vale grotto]

Iirc there's one recipe that can output more than half a stack at once

[solid storm]

using controller

[vale grotto]

For me it's the same button to open a cargo crate or similar

[hard ivy]

there's at least 2 if sloops are involved. idk if there are any that do that without sloops. probably not

[silk ocean]

#yolo it... rock the no AA life

[vale grotto]

Ionized fuel !!! Default outputs 16, slopped outputs 32, which is more than half a stack

[hard ivy]

protein -> biomass makes 100 per cycle normally, and with a stack size of 200, sloops make it output a full stack

[vale grotto]

Ah shoot true yeah

[solid storm]

Generator status is not too good? #screenshots message

[hard ivy]

an unstable production is not ideal, no

[solid storm]

had a bit of trouble laying those water extractors where they needed to be....like I mentioned...a little tough without the jet/hover pack.

[mighty nebula]

Hey does anyone know where I can download a save with endgame factories to benchmark the game’s performance?

[viral pier]

Has the Mk.2 pipe bug been fixed yet, where you can't transport fluid at max capacity?

[knotty walrus]

aren't we supposed to be able to explode the jaged ore rocks ontop of nodes?

[hard ivy]

it hasn't been a thing at least since U6, if it ever existed at all

[viral pier]

It definitely existed at one point, but my phrasing's actually wrong. The maximum capacity is/was misrepresented (due to bug) and actually lower than 600

[hard ivy]

well, I know that 600/min is possible at least since U6, but I also know that it's not easy to achieve due to how fluid dynamics work

so idk if there ever was a bug, or if people misattributed sloshing as a bug

[silk ocean]

I have some plumbing doing a pretty solid 600/min

[viral pier]

I see, that'd make sense if sloshing was the problem. Thanks!

[vale grotto]

Yeah some of your generators are under supplied

Get them more water and/or coal

[knotty walrus]

was there not an alt recipe to make quickwire from copper wire?

[vale grotto]

The ones you can't mine by hand, yes

[knotty walrus]

oh

[vale grotto]

Nope. Quickwire from copper ingots and caterium, yes

[knotty walrus]

blast

[silk ocean]

The kinda light grey ones with jaggies all over them you can explode

[solid storm]

Two level 2 miners on the coal. (both pure).....and no room left for more water ext where I have the coal gens.

[vale grotto]

Well then either overclock things or remove some generators

How many water extractors do you have down?

[solid storm]

3 for 6 gens

[vale grotto]

That's enough water. You have your pipes wrong then

3 extractors can feed 8 generators

[solid storm]

Could not place my pipes very good

[vale grotto]

Then try again

Use lookout towers to get a vantage point

[uncut trail]

guys wtf is time crystal and how do i get it to complete powerslug mam

[hard ivy]

tier 9 stuff

[vale grotto]

Time crystals are unlocked in tier 9, made with diamonds

[silk ocean]

Encoders

[uncut trail]

ok thx

[solid storm]

This is what I meant....the pipes going into the W.E. #screenshots message

[vale grotto]

Looks fine to me

What is the problematic generator lacking?

Coal or water?

[solid storm]

both are topped....just did something wrong along the way....still faily new at this.

[vale grotto]

Both are topped, for all 6 generators?

You checked all of them one by one?

[hard ivy]

if the production is fluctuating, either water, or coal, or both have to be missing from at least 1 generator

judging by the look of the graph, 2 gens have issues

[uncut trail]

i wanna complete nuke nobelisk mam but i dont have nuclear stuff and i was wondering is there place on map where i can come across 10 encased uranium cells?

[solid storm]

I mean plenty of water and coal....but my status on the gens is wacked. #screenshots message

[vale grotto]

At least one, possibly more, of your generators are lacking something. Is it water or coal? Check all of them, then send a screenshot of the one(s) that are missing something

[hard ivy]

either they're full and not fluctuating, or at least one is empty, and it is fluctuating

the gens cannot both be full and fluctuate

[prime jasper]

I just fucked up my entire coal supply across different factories by doing a silly mistake on one of my trains stations.

Many factories across my map got clogged with sulfur it was such a pain to deal with.

I think I am going to put smart splitter in front of basically every train station in order to prevent such an awful mess from happening ever again

[solid storm]

The fist three are full, forth at 75, and the last two were on 1 or two.....so I guess I'll have to add to those occasionally.

[final lotus]

45 hours and I only just realized you can bhop

[hard ivy]

just build an adequate supply?

why would you handfeed and automatable machine

[solid storm]

easy enough just to add a splitter and container....then again, why are the last two gens like that?

[vale grotto]

Are you feeding them enough with the conveyor?

Are you using MK1 belts somehow?

[hard ivy]

miner not fast enough or belts not fast enough

[solid storm]

have lvel 2 on it all...guess I needed lv 3?

[hard ivy]

miners consume 15 coal/min normally

[vale grotto]

Nope, MK2 will be fine for 6 generators

[hard ivy]

for 6, that's 90/min. mk2 is enough

unless you overclocked them to consume more than that

[vale grotto]

You've done something wrong. An accidental MK1 belt, or a miner that's too slow

[solid storm]

Not unlocked yet.....but i'm still new at this....so i messed up somewhere?

[hard ivy]

either miner producing less than 90/min, or you accidentally placed a mk1 belt where a mk2 should be

[vale grotto]

Correct. You have an accidental MK1 belt, or your miner is too slow to supply 90/min

[wary perch]

Wish I could have water in my coffee cup

[versed plinth]

bro

im in the most boring lecture of all time

i just want to go back to my dorm and build my factory

ironically its "engineering ethics and its impact on society"

[peak wasp]

Good morning pioneers

[gritty shoal]

hey, i just overclocked my coal generators, does anyone know why my uhm power capacity keeps dropping in and out?

[versed plinth]

could be low on coal or water

[peak wasp]

Check the water and coal inside them

[versed plinth]

or not enough water going through the system

[gritty shoal]

Wait

if its a water problem, should i just make more water extractor thingys?

[versed plinth]

theres a flow limit on pipes

[peak wasp]

How many extractors and gennies do you have

[versed plinth]

300 / min for mk. 1 pipes, 600 for mk. 2

[gritty shoal]

i have 3 extractors, 8 gens

[versed plinth]

are the extractors overclocked

[peak wasp]

And what mine

[gritty shoal]

the extractors aren't

[versed plinth]

and the generators are fully?

150? 200? how much OC

[gritty shoal]

uhhh

150 on all of them

[cursive totem]

is there a list of all items types needed to build buildings?

[gritty shoal]

except the extractors, i haven't overclocked them yet

[cursive totem]

like, that are not just used as intermediaries for other items, or tools

[peak wasp]

So how many mines are feeding the generators

[gritty shoal]

3 mines, all mk2 (i dont have explosives yet so i cant access the 4th coal node)

i believe the coal is completely fine though

[peak wasp]

Ok so go up to the generators and check water and coal

[versed plinth]

you need 540 water / min, and 180 coal / min. 3 water extractors will only produce 360 water / min

aka: you need 1.5x the water.

[calm dawn]

can i make a train work with a single railway, which isnt circular?

[gritty shoal]

owkay

[hollow halo]

Dude I broke my smelters

I didn’t even touch them and they stopped working

They have power, they have a clear path, it’s just iron won’t go into the thing

[versed plinth]

you will need to run 2 pipes assuming you only have mk. 1 pipes

because they can only handle 300 / min

[gritty shoal]

wait 2 pipes? how do i run 2 pipes..

[peak wasp]

@gritty shoal if it's a water issue, connect the 3 extractors together and then have 2 pipes going outz 1 of those pipes feeding 4 each

[versed plinth]

uhhhh place a second one next to it, and then have it go in via a pipe intersection somewhere down the line

[peak wasp]

I just had the same issue yesterday

[calm dawn]

..anyone knows?

[versed plinth]

generally about halfway is probably fine. you can also do it at the very end if you want. fluids are wacky like that

[main topaz]

Are they full?

[versed plinth]

did the whole system back up

if the whole system is full it doesn't have anywhere to go

so ti will just sit there (this is the core concept behind manifold designs btw)

[uncut trail]

cold take there should be option to clean belts off of any item they have like pipes

[gritty shoal]

okay so i placed another extractor

[versed plinth]

icy take i should be able to replace a whole line of belts at once

[gritty shoal]

i have 2 extractors connected to eachother, then feeding into 4 gens

is that what yall meant?

[versed plinth]

should work

yeah pretty much

fyi you can calculate the numbers needed by looking in the UI of a machine (aka the coal generator) and seeing how much water it wants. It'll tell you exactly how much it wants per minute. Then, just multiply that by the number of machines

[peak wasp]

There is a wiki article on this

[versed plinth]

very true

[versed plinth]

do you mean pipe mechanics?

[peak wasp]

!wikisearch cg

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[peak wasp]

@gritty shoal

[stray herald]

Why are all somersloops surrounded by glowy stones 💔 I'm too low level for the hazmat man

[silk rose]

guys are they gonna add more details to power graph? like consumption for trains, machines, portals etc? or is there mod for that?

[silk rose]

wrong tier biome is my guess

[silk ocean]

Factorio level of detail on the power page would be kinda cool

[silk rose]

there are total like 50 of sloops tho

[silk rose]

its not that hard to make

i dont even ask to fix pipes

[silk ocean]

Yea I imagine no major stretch

[white dawn]

You can usually tank the radiation pretty well with some inhalers; you generally don't have to be right on top of the spicy rocks to grab it. Remember that your interaction range goes way up while parachuting; can probably grab it from afar, too!

[silk rose]

they are 480 max for me

[white dawn]

(That, or yeah, just leave that one for later. There's not very many which require tanking radiation)

[silk rose]

i think like 10

[vale grotto]

Absolutely yeah. Just need an engine facing both directions

[silk rose]

locomotive on both sides

[native tapir]

Hello Satisfactory Community. How is everyone playing the game early? The release date appears to be November 4th.

Thanks for any help you can provide.

-Doug

[bronze dagger]

do i need an empty platform for the locomotive

[dim laurel]

that is the release date for ps5 and xbox series consoles

[white dawn]

The release date for consoles is November 4. The game reached 1.0 on PC nearly a year ago, and was available in Early Access on PC for years before that

[hollow halo]

The conveyors were screwed up

[native tapir]

Hello,

Interesting. Hopefully we will get some word on the Xbox 360 release soon.

Thanks for the tips

-Doug

[plush dawn]

no xbox one? dang, even more reason for me to install linux on it

[lost wagon]

wanted to change ONE (1) floodlight color to red and this stupid light control changed EVERYTHING in the entire map to red because they share the same power network

[white dawn]

Heh, a 360 release is almost certainly never happening. They're targetting Xbox X/S and PS5.

[calm dawn]

Spare the courtesy, there's no need to write every message like an email 😅

[lost wagon]

there was a dude here that instead of using reply he would write your name and whatever he wants to tell you expecting you to be reading the chat at that moment

[gritty shoal]

Thankyou Ruby and Singu for the help, problem is fixed <3333

[white dawn]

apocalyptech
#satisfactory
Satisfactory Discord Server

August 29, 2025

Ewix
#satisfactory
Satisfactory Discord Server

Dear Ewix:

We have received your request to introduce more formality in our online discourse, and agree that treating Discord messages like email is not conducive to an efficient workplace. We will make use of formal business correspondence from this point forward.

Warm regards,

apocalyptech

[calm dawn]

😭

[native tapir]

Hello apocalyptech,

I am disappointed by this obviously. I had hoped Coffee Cup Studios would be the one to buck this trend.

Thanks for the tip.

-Doug

[white dawn]

Honestly I'm not sure if previous consoles would even have the horsepower for Satisfactory; I know folks have even been unsure how the current batch will do with the game

Though I assume it'll probably be fine at least for the platforms they're releasing on

[faint gulch]

I love how y'all are just writing so formally almost as if you are writing e-mails to eachother 😂

[fast wing]

Hello, @calm dawn.

I would certainly appreciate if you stopped telling my brotheren, @white dawn and @native tapir, aka DougDoug, what not to do.

Thanks,
Ogi

[calm dawn]

such trolls, i can't 😭

[faint gulch]

Real XD

[shy fog]

🛑

[native tapir]

Hello Satisfactory Community. Why does everyone call me DougDoug? There is a satisfactory discord on Reddit and they comment this all the time.

Thanks for the help.

-Doug

[dim laurel]

Hello @native tapir.

We call you DougDoug because why not.

Regards, Vix.

[reef basin]

I'm disappointed in SF going to consoles 🤷 I'd rather the console trend to die 🤷

[sullen gull]

Yeeeah, That's not going to happen anytime soon.

[shy fog]

I'd rather consoles just get the power to run satisfactory because they stop using the "not upgradable like a pc" trend

[reef basin]

unfortunately

[fast wing]

Hello, DougDoug.

If you are not informed into the DougDoug community, DougDoug is a twitch streamer, known for his coding videos, clips, gameplay, his twitch chat, etc.

It would be much appreciated if you'd look into this subject more, either on Google or YouTube, as I am certain that you will enjoy the content that this legend is making and will get many laughs.

-Ogi

[ivory condor]

At least it isnt the typical console to pc port that ends up being poorly optimized

[sullen gull]

They really can't be 'ungradable' as that would really mess up console game makers imo. They already have a set hardware profile to try and match. Having consoles be upgradable would mean potential drivers and support issues.

[dim laurel]

Hello, OgnjenPlayz.

I completely forgot about the existance of DougDoug (the streamer).

Regards, Vix.

[reef basin]

we don't know that yet 😛

[fast wing]

Thy should revisit thee.

-Ogi

[reef basin]

also can we all end with those email-like messages? it may very much be considered spam

[sullen gull]

I mean, graphics and playing ability should be fine right? I'd say the main concern is when people start creating mega bases all over the map.

[fast wing]

Remember, if you talk in email, your IQ gets inflated by ~100+.

[sullen gull]

Eh, I have read some (many) emails that would beg to differ lol

[shy fog]

The Xbox PC app is the best way to play, connect, and shop with Xbox on PC—all designed for PC players to enhance your gaming experience with Xbox.
https://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-on-pc

[sullen gull]

Yeah, but even the APP sets some "defaults" I'd assume. Given that it's more or less an emulator no?

[shy fog]

everything is an emulator

[native tapir]

Hello again Satisfactory Community.

I will head over to GameStop now and get a computer. I have been excited to play this game since I saw the trailer.

Thanks again,
-Doug

[sullen gull]

😒

[shy fog]

yes, that includes this chatroom

people are playing "email" on it

at some point someone is going to boot up doom

[reef basin]

you're closer to the truth that you think - the discord app is basically a "browser emualtor", and it runs the discord web app

[sullen gull]

Maaaan, It's Friday peoples! (Or Saturday for some I presume). Let's give the 'fun police' a day off

[fast wing]

"playing "email"" is totally normal. I don't understand what youre talking about

[reef basin]

(and yes I know it's browser emulator exactly, if someone wants to go with "well actually")

[sullen gull]

Lol, someone usually always does 😏

[limpid cairn]

Consoles are great for people who don’t want pcs

Like if I wouldn’t use my pc for other stuff + every game was on console I’d be on console

[fast wing]

xbox ally 🤑

[reef basin]

what's the difference nowdays? practically nothing, except for overpriced environment and no upgradability on consoles

[shy fog]

The Dirty Heads ‧ 2017, it's song loud and clear

[sullen gull]

I'm a bit of an 'elitist" when it comes to games and couldn't be without my keyboard and mouse 🤣

[sullen gull]

Still though, dedicated hardware/software for a specific purpose. No one that has to do 'a lot more' like a computer.

But yes, agree with the crappy expense for the environments.

[lost wagon]

USUALLY you just put the disc/download the game and it works, but nowadays some aren't like that anymore lmao

[white dawn]

If you're one to play a lot of AAA games and don't want to spend a bunch on PC hardware, buying console lets you enjoy an ecosystem where developers are specifically targetting the exact machine you're using. So there's probably some value in that

[native tapir]

Hello again,

How do I join the email chain? I am not seeing it but I am on my mobile phone if that is a problem.

Thanks.

Doug

[white dawn]

Not that specifically targetting the hardware is any real guarantee of performance or stability nowadays. :)

[reef basin]

AAA games have enough generic bugs to not be worth for me even if it didn't have any hardware-specific issues

[white dawn]

(I've literally never owned a console, so I have no actual investment in defending their viability. :)

[reef basin]

I'd recommend to stop. It's getting pretty annoying

[sullen gull]

I'd venture to say that 'statistically' it's better though.

[shy fog]

the irony of speaking of AAA gaming in a game that literally wasn't AAA and outpreformed AAA...

[sullen gull]

Lol, I bought a Xbox 360 MW2 SE when I was in Korea. It's just a bookend now 🤣

[native tapir]

Hello again,

Nevermind I was able to find it. I should be able to be back from GameStop in about 30 minutes and I am hopeful I will build a factory or two today. Does it usually move quickly?

Thanks again,
-Doug

[white dawn]

Yeah, I've got practically zero interest in that whole market. I admit I still quite :heart: Borderlands (partially because I'm so involved in modding those games), but that's about it. (Though my current PC won't even run the upcoming BL4, and I've yet to even think about possible upgrades)

[true mulch]

why are you typing your messages as emails...?

[reef basin]

also, with like 98% of games I play I usually end up using some other non-game things on the machine (calculators, notes, third-party websites, wikis, etc.). So the "dedicated system for gaming" is quite literally argument AGAINST consoles for me

[reef basin]

troll/spam. I'm seriously considering pinging mods at this point

[hard ivy]

considered that as well. blocked them instead lol

[sullen gull]

Heh, almost like the guy that refused to @ people

[native tapir]

Hello, I do not know you and wanted to be polite.

Thank you all for the help. I will check back later. Enjoy your Friday

-Doug

[reef basin]

we don't know people in here (usually). But we do not spam 5 lines when 1 is enough. Politeness here is basically "don't call other people names"

[hard ivy]

the messages take up way too f-ing much space and say nothing useful or relevant. and despite taking up one line now, that's still too much

[sullen gull]

Pssssffffhh .... Keep talking! You handsome devil you! 😏

[true mulch]

I feel like the appeal of consoles is simply incomprehensible to us, just like trying to understand why tens of millions of people buy the same FIFA every year

[sullen gull]

Or Madden

[glad drum]

I've never seen people so upset about the formatting of a message.

Are y'all on mobile or tiny monitors or something that would make this that bothersome?

[reef basin]

like the only argument I kinda get is "I want a system where I can sit on couch in front of TV and chill"... which sure, consoles are good for this... but you can also just buy a few long cables or even wireless via some smart TV and set up your PC to work the same way

[true mulch]

haha that's what I do, just stream games right to the TV

[reef basin]

it's kinda annoying to read half a screen of "politeness" just to get to the actual message content. If everyone typed here like this, the conversations would be 50 screens just to answer what is the recipe for screws

[true mulch]

this is not a forum idk something something netiquette

[sullen gull]

Even with a large monitor/resolution, sometimes the chat is going by quick enough where mutiline messages like that, that don't say anything really of value, make it difficult to follow along with other convorsations. I.e., if they were explaining something and formatted it mutli line/paragraph, that'd one thing. But mostly it's just nonsense about wanting to play the game.

[hard ivy]

not to mention the messages say absolutely nothing and take up 8 lines

[glad drum]

Dear Chat,
Fair enough.

[smoky forge]

yes

[glad drum]

Just 'cause it doesn't bother me doesn't mean y'all's reasons aren't valid

[reef basin]

as always, spam is defined by the recipient 😉

[vestal hound]

free la vaca saturno saturnita in my dm

[sullen gull]

Usually one of the 'caveats' of a public space. What may bother/be offensive to one may not be offensive to some. And 9 times out of 10, majority rules in those situations lol

I like the song Remedy by Pucifer ... I feel the lyrics explain the 'vibe' amongst most internet chat rooms 🤣

Buuuut any who, Who's building what today?!

[glad drum]

I'd love to show you what I'm working on if you don't mind 😄 - I'm setting up my solid steel factory... routing all the iron ingots right now

[white dawn]

Still wonder if that 1.0-anniversary-event is gonna be something ingame like FICSMAS. Perhaps it's time for me to belatedly start a v1.1 playthrough...

(Also still haven't quite decided on the approach I wanted to take for the next run)

[sullen gull]

I am currently 'rebuilding' a 104/min encased pipe factory because I got 3/4 the way done and forgot I still had 14 contructors to 'situate' lol

[white dawn]

Try them and see? dx12 is what they strongly recommend; I wouldn't try the others unless dx12 doesn't work for you

[sullen gull]

As in, show some stuff in the #screenshots or #design-and-architecture channels? or Like, have me join your server?

[white dawn]

Nobody's gonna know how your exact hardware will perform. (Well, I mean, if by some massive stroke of luck someone active in chat has your exact laptop, maybe they'd know. But still, just try it and see)

[sullen gull]

I am a bit curious as well lol.

[glad drum]

#screenshots message Just in screenshots! 😄 Maybe when I'm all done I'll do a walkthrough of everything as a video

[white dawn]

Not sure what you mean. If DX12 runs for you, that's likely to be the most-optimized renderer

[sterile flame]

Anyone else experiencing a "server restart" on satisfactory? Or just me

[sullen gull]

Haha, seriously going for giving LGIO a run for their money it seams! 😏

[white dawn]

The game requires periodic garbage-collection-type-stuff in the background, even in singleplayer. (There's effectively an embedded "server" that you're using even then.) The way CSS handles it is needing a bounce every 24hr, and it seems that can pop up in some other circumstances sometimes.

[glad drum]

I've gotta take the 12 smelters making 30/min and split em then merge em into 40/min for the foundries... its taking a LONG time

[white dawn]

No raytracing is enabled by default. The settings give you the option to enable Global Illumination / Lumen, which does some of that, but it's off by default.

[sullen gull]

You can also adjust the restart time in settings fyi.

[white dawn]

But again, it's your laptop: if you want to try other renderers, Just Do It.

[true mulch]

<@&370483737957236737> could we please get some console release info in #faq? release date, crossplay and such

[sullen gull]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-curse-gif-6401971144449120087

[sullen gull]

Nov 4, cross play between xbox/ps5 players, not sure on PC, check the released community videos for the other 'such'

[sullen gull]

It's probably #announcements that you want to pay attention to for that stuff.

[white dawn]

I mean, it's info which should also be in #faq , since they are, y'know, frequently asked. :)

[true mulch]

I'm not asking because I want answers, I want a place I can refer to easily

already saw several #1038092680493801533 posts about crossplay

[sullen gull]

Yes, but only till release. I've always understood an #faq as "Questions frequently asked over all time of product'

[true mulch]

a bot command could be handy for this too

[true mulch]

well notice there's stuff about 1.0 still

[sullen gull]

Refer to #announcements

[true mulch]

if someone asks "will there be crossplay to PC", I don't want to link them a 7 minute video

[sullen gull]

Fair. Though I feel 1.0 was maybe a larger milestone 🤷‍♂️ . Still though, valid.

[white dawn]

There's... really no reason to resist commonly-asked info being added to #faq. Why not have a bit of nicely copy+pasteable text with direct answers to things? (And in a forwardable post, no less.) That's exactly why the channel's there?

Anyway, community managers will add it if they see fit, in the end. Good to bring it up, though. :)

[sullen gull]

Yeah, that's vaild. Which would definately be one of those "asked over all time questions" for sure.

[true mulch]

asking mods for a bot command too

[sullen gull]

To link directly to a specific question? or to add things?

[peak wasp]

Yw. Heaps of people have helped me, don't be afraid to ask 🙂

[true mulch]

such as

[fossil ice]

Official Satisfactory Wiki

This is the totally awesome community driven wiki for Satisfactory!! Come on in and check it out!
<3 @true mulch

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @true mulch

Hello there totally awesome user! You can checkout #1201555265942724758 and check the pins on how to find folks to play with. <3

[sullen gull]

Are those listed any where btw? Because I've seen you use them before and was wondering how.

[white dawn]

Heh, I wonder if Josh will return to Satisfactory at some point in the future; I think he'd love the noodle buildmode for belts (post prompted by #screenshots message )

It's like instant Spaghetti Enhancer

[sullen gull]

The 'curved'? Or saying they should add a noodle mode?

[white dawn]

Heh, I just didn't remember the correct term and hazarded a guess on "noodle"

[sullen gull]

Lol, no worries, Was just thinking I may had missed something somewhere 🤣

[sullen gull]

Lol! So long as you're enjoying it though!

[feral geyser]

Are we ever gonna get FIFO containers in vanilla? Cuz I'm honestly surprised they don't work like that as is.

[true mulch]

never heard anything about that

what for anyway?

[willow glen]

hmm, what use case do you have for that?

[sullen gull]

Umm, I thought that's how they were now?

[feral geyser]

They would let you send mixed truck/train loads much more easily without them clogging with one type of thing.

[feral geyser]

No, they do FILO

[sullen gull]

Smart/programmable splitters.....

[white dawn]

So long as you're buffering the sushi processing properly, it doesn't matter what order they're output at

Sort, then buffer. Let it deliver a load or two and then it'll never matter what order they get output from the stations

(Don't even necessarily have to wait for it to deliver a load or two; it'll self-balance after a few even if you turn on processing right away)

[sullen gull]

What sorts of 'tips and tricks'? Factory setup? Building, progressing?

[white dawn]

This might sound like I'm taking the piss, but honestly my main tip+trick would be: Ignore youtube, ignore this Discord. Play at your own pace, and enjoy learning the game for the first time

[willow glen]

It would be neat if you could isolate the truck stop outputs, say have a sulfur and a coal truck deliver to the same spot (without needing a smart splitter). But generally I just use 2 stops to keep em separated

[sullen gull]

For building, I'd say peruse #screenshots, #design-and-architecture , and search YT for satisfactory build tips.

[white dawn]

If you go to youtube and discord and places like that, you're gonna miss out on the joy of discovering these systems, and also pick up everyone else's mistakes and bad habits

[true mulch]

1. listen to ADA
2. read build menu descriptions
3. https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Production_line
4. https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1407992744747728977

[white dawn]

Make your own mistakes and develop your own bad habits. More fun that way. :)

The main thing is to just have fun, of course. If fun for you means reading a lot of strategy and tips and such beforehand, then go ahead and ignore my advice just like I'm suggesting you ignore everything else, instead. :D

[sullen gull]

Here is two mate, you don't have to hold space bar to craft and you can hold E when gathering leaves/wood

Err, maybe just leaves ...

[white dawn]

But IMO you only get the chance to play the game for the first time once. Don't ruin it by loading yourself up with the rest of the world's preconceived opinions and biases, etc

[willow glen]

the only thing that can’t be fixed/undone as easily as it was done is dying off the edge of the world. So just save before exploring an area above the void.

[leaden turret]

swedish cake automation?

[white dawn]

Like my own first playthrough was basically 100% stuff that I'd recommend against nowadays. I still had a blast, though, and it's not like I consider that wasted time

And going through the strategies I was using at the time let me realize that there were better ways of doing things, etc

[sullen gull]

I wouldn't have done the inventory one, as managing items/inventory is a part of the game imo. Sky UI, I kinda get that one honestly.

[white dawn]

Well, I would also recommend not using mods unless you've got a very specific thing about the game that's bugging you. How will you even know what you want out of mods unless you know how the vanilla game works?

But, again, your game, your fun, your rules. So ignore me on that, as well, if you like. :P

[leaden turret]

insert joke about big coffee and big ice cream creating a duopoloy on vanilla flavouring

[slate python]

Is this in creative

[white dawn]

You don't have to justify your own mod use to anyone, of course! As I say, it's your own game, you're free to play it however you like. :)

[sullen gull]

I just want a mod where I can set a key for "Build" since my hands are already at the keyboard pressing Hold, nudging, etc. And one that will allow me to zoom the map to SCIM levels of zoom 🤣

[slate python]

CAN SOMEONE SEND ME THERE SAVE FILE

THAT THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON

don’t worry I won’t mess anything up

[sullen gull]

Sure ... for what? And why are you yelling? 🤣

[white dawn]

File sharing is disallowed on the server, btw. Check #rules

[slate python]

Oh ok

Could you dm me though

[sullen gull]

Heh, it does state that through DM's is fine 🙂

[reef basin]

fyi this is the same user that already asked several times, e.g. here - https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1409527100855287978

(they are grounded and can't play 🙂 )

[white dawn]

Heh, yeah, I know, but it's still the sort of message that's worth discouraging on the main channel, IMO. :D

[peak wasp]

does anyone know why is my friend showing offline on his name in game?

[hard ivy]

that'd explain why they're so annoying

[reef basin]

yeah, the more reason to not send them save files 🙂

[sullen gull]

Any player that joins a save will stay there and just be sitting

Only way to remove is through violence 😏

[peak wasp]

I mean he's playing with me rn but he's name is saying offline...

[sullen gull]

OH..

[peak wasp]

he can still interact with stuff

[sullen gull]

Maybe they have the setting turned off that allows them to be visible to other players?

I.e. on the map and HUD

[peak wasp]

didn't know thats something can be toggled?

[white dawn]

Maybe their storefront connection (Steam/EGS) is technically offline, and the game appends that suffix when that's the case? The storefront connection being offline wouldn't actually impact being able to play multiplayer, I don't think (though maybe I'm wrong about that; not sure exactly how the EOS integration stuff works, or in what multiplayer scenarios it might be needed)

[slate python]

But if you send me them then I will stop

[sullen gull]

I thought I saw it, but That was back in U8 when I thought I saw it... May also not be showing because I am not in a multiplayer game either. 🤷‍♂️

[shy mulch]

That's not how it works. You're clearly too young to be using discord. Please behave before people start reporting you

[reef basin]

I don't have any saves

[sullen gull]

If I though it to be true, I would send them mine ... but they'd need a couple mods 😛

[peak wasp]

I found a helmet! says new item unlocked, but can't see it in my inventory

[sullen gull]

Go to the HUB and to the Lockers.

[peak wasp]

ohhhhh long walk back, thanks!

[sullen gull]

If ya have blueprints, make your self a Hypertube Cannon one 😏

Is there a way to change the text color for the "Build gun" text? (Specifically the number portion of when dragging a beam per say)

[peak wasp]

ogh I thought it was a head item to equip

[sullen gull]

Helmets are accessed through the character customizer only afaik. Only thing that goes in your inventory that goes on your head (helmet addon it looks like) is the gasmask

[bright magnet]

tried to jumpstart my base again using biomass burners but they cant charge power storages?

[small notch]

How much space do I need for phase 2 of the space elevator?

[hard ivy]

they can't. power storage charges from the difference between production and consumption. for bio burners, that's always 0

[ivory condor]

For me for whatever reason both vulkan and dx11 is more optimized than dx12, the game is weird that way

[bright magnet]

damn ... thanks

[hard ivy]

8x16 foundation will probably be enough

elevator included

[small notch]

Oh

I did 60x60

[hard ivy]

assuming you handfeed the resources ofc

[small notch]

What about phase 3?

[hard ivy]

about the same

phase 4 will need a bit more due to the copper powder

[ivory condor]

13900hx rtx 4090 laptop

[small notch]

Alr ty

[peak wasp]

How much was a 4090 laptop jeez

I can't find anything affordable under 1000$ on amazon

[ivory condor]

You can get them for around 2k now

[peak wasp]

Is it worth that price

[hard ivy]

that's my phase 3 factory #screenshots message
you need very little if you handfeed everything

[ivory condor]

If you want 3090 performance in a laptop sure

Depends what your looking for

[true mulch]

if you don't absolutely need a laptop, avoid getting a laptop

[peak wasp]

Late game satisfactory at good frames and quality

[small notch]

That’s good I thought I’d need a lot more space

[peak wasp]

Oh that's right 🙂

[hard ivy]

and if you do need a laptop, but you don't need it to be powerful, get a weak laptop and a PC

[peak wasp]

This is the only game I play where I have in game music on

[small notch]

#screenshots that’s what I have rn

[hard ivy]

with that space, you could fully automate all the parts instead of handfeeding them

[ivory condor]

4090 thankfully has aged pretty well, 50 series isnt really much better

[small notch]

Yeah I may have overestimated the space I need

[ivory condor]

So im good for another 2 years and see what happens with 60 series

[true mulch]

exactly this
I'm grateful to have a small light thinkpad that fits into my backpack easily rather than a 5kg behemoth that hums like a vacuum cleaner

[hard ivy]

I'm waiting for the 60 series so I can buy a used 40 or a 50 series
or something from AMD if it's somehow cheaper

[shrewd palm]

i hope they dont go as heavy on the frame gen with the 60 series as they did with the 50 series

[shrewd palm]

AMD instead of nvidia these days for GPUs

[reef basin]

except that laptop is definitely not cooler than a thinkpad

[hard ivy]

3 of my previous GPUs were bought used

[true mulch]

those "exxtreeme gamer" laptops honestly look terrible

[hard ivy]

one's LEDs died, the other 2 were fine

[true mulch]

thinkpads are plain and professional

[reef basin]

(I also meant "cooler" as a temperature joke)

[small notch]

Hopefully I’ll be able to grind phase 2 tomorrow and complete it ready for phase 3

Yeah

[hard ivy]

the issue is that where I live, there's literally 10x fewer used AMD GPUs available and they're not cheap.
this makes NVIDIA have much better price/performance ratio

[shrewd palm]

ahh

[small notch]

Yh sure

[peak wasp]

I just realised you can have many sinks >_<

[true mulch]

you can also build a MAM wherever

like right when you get a hard drive

[hard ivy]

funny thing is, the original idea for the sink was that the elevator was gonna be the sink. and everything to be sunk was going to have to be shipped to it

[peak wasp]

oh wow! I like elevator use how it is now

[ivory condor]

Yeah that would be a good idea, gpu prices outside of the used market are still messed up

[lime ermine]

You can get a used Radeon rx 7900 gre for like 409-500 USD used, it's a good card for that price

[hard ivy]

too bad that's still 50-100 USD more than a 3080

[lime ermine]

Wait really

Then get a 3080 I had no idea they were that cheap

[hard ivy]

or rather, that's how much 3080s cost here, and the 7900 GRE is 50-100 more

I have a 3080 rn

[ivory condor]

Idk maybe closer to sub 300 it would be, remember thats a 550 msrp card and yes now msrp seems more like a myth price if anything....

[lime ermine]

It really does

[ivory condor]

Yeah....

[lime ermine]

I just pick a performance range and go for the cheapest card in they range at the time, right now I have a 3070

[hard ivy]

yeah, used AMD cards suck so much here that I could get a new one for 20-50 USD more than the chepaest used one I could find

there are used one more expensive than new ones

[ivory condor]

This market is so cursed

[mossy rock]

wow im exploring my friends side of the world and its so bad, like not even comparable, its not spegetti but its pretty frickin bad compared to my stuff 😭

[hard ivy]

I think it's just here. nobody buys AMD for some reason

[mossy rock]

only good part of his base is the train tracks, and youll never guess who built those

[peak wasp]

the modeler is so cool

can't plan without it 🙂

[mossy rock]

whats a modeler

[hard ivy]

eh, I like SFTools more

way less manual

[mossy rock]

i use sf calc