satisfactory

[silk ocean]

Probably not bad yea

[supple rain]

for my current playthrough I decided that I would ditch my starter area fully and build a better optimized area once I got to plastic

[willow glen]

its very rich in resources, the problem is building out there without going straight to the sky before parachutes

[silk ocean]

Northern Forest is quite high elevation tho?

[willow glen]

the starter area is surrounded by pretty tall cliffs, its more of a valley inside a high elevation zone, ya

[frail sleet]

there are just hills and rocks and cliffs everywhere

[silk ocean]

Yea

Massive cliff line to go north

[peak wasp]

hmm

[silk ocean]

Tricky choices xD

[peak wasp]

im watching more videos

[topaz shale]

I really like the rocky desert as a starting area, personally.

[supple rain]

do yall think it's a good idea to conserve power shards where I can, or should I try to use them as I get them to save on number of buildings for fps and factory size?

[topaz shale]

It depends, really. I like to use power shards on my power generators to save on building count because I'm lazy.

[willow glen]

fps wont be a concern until postgame, where you'll probably rebuild your starter stuff anyway.
as for space, totally up to you. I prefer to use it to rate match, so for example if a ratio is 2:1, i make it 1:1 by overclocking the 2nd machine to 200%.
can also be used to boost production lazily

always shard your miners tho.

[supple rain]

I play on a laptop

[peak wasp]

it's looking the pick so far, bottom left corner

[supple rain]

(on lowest graphics settings too)
fps becomes a concern when I hit fuel generatirs

[silk ocean]

If you end up spreading your base around the world building count prob not too much concern as not all assets are loaded out of visual range etc

[supple rain]

yeah I was thinking of doing that

[topaz shale]

you can start at any place but the green plains and rocky desert are just easy to start in. Rocky desert more but the plains are growing on me.

[willow glen]

no i mean, the fps you lose to processing production lines on your cpu will not outweigh the massive weight UE5 puts on your GPU until post game, regardless of your specs (unless you have a beast graphics card on a processor from 2008 i guess)

[supple rain]

having big base material processing plants, and then separate factories for each main group of things connecting to a main hub bade

[supple rain]

ooooooooohhhhhhh

[shy mulch]

Is there an in-universe explanation as to why I, as a pioneer, can run around carrying in my bag more materials than an entire freight train?

[peak wasp]

Yup, my first save was grass fields, just want a change

[supple rain]

so my fps lack does not scale much with factory sizes?

that's very good to know

[silk ocean]

Really depends how much stuff is in visual range I think

e.g. the engine doesn't render constructors that are on the other side of the map

[supple rain]

I'll just keep things separated some then, and not go full ImKibitz nuclear plant scale

(Although I would love to..)

[willow glen]

that part can be adjusted in your graphics settings, but as far as slowdown due to massive factory, i saw it once i started using about half the nodes on the map, which is about 2x the size you need to finish phase 5 quickly. (and probably like 10x a normal playthrough size)

[supple rain]

I should look into maybe trying to set up windows 10 on the laptop I got from my stepbrother to see how it runs it

[shy mulch]

I bought a pretty high end gaming laptop from a friend just because he was selling it cheap and it felt too good a bargain to pass up. I tried satisfactory on it and it's terrible, barely playable compared to my PC. I conclude that there's no such thing as a gaming laptop, if you want to play games get a desktop

[willow glen]

fwiw i notice 0 fps difference in satisfactory win 10 vs win 11, tho ymmv

[supple rain]

I just hate win11

it just feels bad, it gives me "air wrong texture" vibes

[willow glen]

shrug i use a special edition that doesnt have telemetry or ads so that may be part of the reason i notice no difference (besides the start menu being centered by default, obviously)

[silk ocean]

I use StartAllBack - gets rid of the win11 taskbar and you can pick 7/8//10, I love it

[supple rain]

I will make a note of that

[stray herald]

Should I move crude oil to my base site or do I move its products? It's my first oil node

[rustic hare]

fact lol, and when a laptop breaks down, much more headache than the pc

[shy mulch]

It's new and you're not used to it. New things will do that until you use them for a while. I love the look and feel of win 11 now, feels more modern and crisp, functionally it's the same as 10 for 99% of daily tasks

[silk ocean]

Also support for win 10 ends in 2 months xD

[supple rain]

I did notice that BigBootyTom's world causes my fps to drop to like 3fps in some places, is that more likely a gpu or cpu issue for me? (Just because I really love his world and wanna incorporate some of that vibe)

[rustic hare]

diluted fuel, make it on the spot, shove it into generators then from the byproduct resin, make plastic and rubber as needed, transport with trains, make sure to pre-build train stations so you can build rocket fuel later

[stray herald]

I don't have trains yet:0 I think I have trucks tho is that still good or do I just run conveyors?

[rustic hare]

I still have my plastic and rubber node disconnected from most of my grid tho, so it's fine, I produce computers and stuffs that need plastic on-site, then depot it

[supple rain]

wait.. don't you unlock trains before oil though?
or am I misremembering

[rustic hare]

only when you start getting into interconnecting your grids and logistics that train become a major point

[supple rain]

oh no it's after, I just remembered the stations need plastic

[true swallow]

Trying 1.1 for the first time.. is there no more quartz in northern forrest?

[willow glen]

i usually start oil by making 1000 plastic, 1000 rubber, manually flushing HOR, and running back to the hub to unlock more stuff. getting it home without trains sucks

[stray herald]

So by everyone suggesting to wait until I have trains, I assume trucks aren't worth the hassle?

[willow glen]

hmm? there wasnt any quartz in northern forest in U8, it got added in 1.0. nothing will change about the nodes on the map after 1.0

[rustic hare]

1-2 trucks here and there will suffice, but for more complicated terrains, or more trucks running the same path, trains beat it out every single time

[willow glen]

recording long routes sucks

[stray herald]

Alright, thanks all!:D

[rustic hare]

one mistake and you are fucked

[willow glen]

one route i made that was 5 minutes long, i ended up messing up within the last minute like 8 times in a row. im never doing long routes again. trucks to coal then rush trains.

[stray herald]

On the screenshotyou sent, how did you show icons and stuff on your map?

[rustic hare]

cartographer mod

[silk ocean]

Yea I had a miserable experience doing 2 trucks on 4km route.. aaaand then I went trains XD

[stray herald]

How complicated are trains?

[rustic hare]

exactly what I did lol, tractor to coal for steel, then trains from then on

[rustic hare]

pretty simple if you only got one train per track

[silk ocean]

They don't even precisely follow the track so they kept hitting stuff

[stray herald]

Nah I got a long ass conveyor line for my steel 😭

[silk ocean]

I'd personally say they are easy but then I have quite a lot of experience, it's definitely a learning curve

[willow glen]

trains themselves are easy. signaling multiple trains on the same track is easy if you follow some simple rules, but it gets real fun if you try to do wonky intersections and lots of bidirectional rail (2 directions on the same rail)

[rustic hare]

just started doing things the proper way (trains) yesterday
#screenshots message

[stray herald]

This is cleaner than anything I have build in my 130 hours of gameplay

[shy mulch]

Yeah I agree, there are a few things that fall into the category of "it's very simple once you really understand it, but it takes some effort to learn"
Trains and dealing with fluid byproducts are firmly in that category 😎

[stray herald]

Well this is my first world after 1.0 so it has been a while

[silk ocean]

It looks tidy yea

[rustic hare]

most of my time is spent on deconstructing ugly stuffs

[dense violet]

trucks and trains are both tricky.
the reason people don't like trucks is because they have to think of the terrain and locations of their stuff to use them more readily

[rustic hare]

this is my first ever save too lol, started playing since 2025 steam summer sale

[stray herald]

LMAO putting me to shame fr

I have never used trains or trucks I just had conveyors all over

[shy mulch]

If you orient your stations the other way round, you can merge the 'exit' lines at the opposite side to your main line, then you only need one line to merge back in to your main line, easier to scale up if you do it that way

[rustic hare]

I used to do it that way, but I want the 2 long lines as buffer to not clog up my main lines if there are multiple trains waiting

[shy mulch]

Fair enough 😎

I'm definitely experiencing clogged lines 😂😭

[rustic hare]

you can see my old setup used that here #1409600946404851894 message

[willow glen]

ya in order to keep my bidirectional trains from keeping the main lines clogged up, i really gotta make those entrance lanes long. but unless you need high volume like i did, the difference is minimal

around 7-14 trains i start noticing that trains being backed up on the tracks is a big issue.

[shy mulch]

I need high volume but I don't have space where I built them to make big entrance bits

[rustic hare]

that's going to be my main base with high volume I/O, so I fully anticipate it to clog up with trains

[willow glen]

rip, ive had to solve that with a second depot before

[rustic hare]

I'm going to start tearing down my power poles once I got trains as my power grid, and embedded hypertubes as transport

[silk ocean]

I have hypercannons all over the world, my usual means of transport XD

[rustic hare]

I do have one, just too lazy to scale up more xD (I forgot to build it as a blueprint)

[shy mulch]

I built a line that runs down the coast beyond the cliffs on the far east of the desert, where I drop off huge amounts of ore and use water to make ingots. But I've got to the point where my trains are always queueing

[silk ocean]

tbh one of my cannons in can steer to any location in the world xD

[rustic hare]

but then you need to get back to that canon

[silk ocean]

Yea hence putting them at most factories around the place

[shy mulch]

I have portals everywhere now, but I still use cannons sometimes because they are fun

[willow glen]

depending on the size of the factory sometimes its faster to just run to the next one, but at that point you probably have trains anyway

[silk ocean]

Sometimes I just drive a train around the network, kinda fun to manually obey signals

[rustic hare]

btw I just found out how to battle radioactive hogs and gas spiders xD, fought off 2 gas spiders + 1 tier 2 spider at the same time yesterday

[shy mulch]

I have a silly method which is quite satisfying, but I'm curious to hear yours first

[rustic hare]

if my train lines aren't curved I can just bhop to the next station, that's faster than hypertubes without hypercanon entrances

[silk ocean]

I just find you have to mash left/right cursor keys to get those brances to switch, and a bit in advance

[willow glen]

you can build off the map quite a ways if you really want to move them out, but yeah its kinda boxed in there lol, thats a lot of stations to move. ah well, just make a bypass so only trains that need into those stations use that route imo

[peak wasp]

dune looks like it has everything needed

[rustic hare]

I bhop all over the place + explosive rebar, and really fast aim, the mob AI can't predict your movement if you don't even know where you are going

[silk ocean]

I save before manual train driving, the network is busy, and trains can......crash xD

[shy mulch]

The only trains that go there are trains that are using those stations, it's not really an "on the way to somewhere else" kinda line. I have 10 stations serviced by 18 trains atm, and when it's finished it will be 15 stations with 24 trains. The factories lead off to the east from the stations all the way to the damage border

[willow glen]

resetting a crashed train isnt a big issue unless your rail is in the sky and you fall off the track tbh

[peak wasp]

rocky desert has oil nearby too >_<

[silk ocean]

True, it's all just raised above the ground

[shy mulch]

I have a big glass cube in a blueprint with small 1m holes in the top. I quickly drop the box on the green enemies and they can't escape, then I stand on the top and drop nobelisks in the hole

I'm old and can't aim as fast as I could when I was a kid, so I have to give myself all the advantages I can in these situations 😛

[peak wasp]

rocky desert it is

[limpid cairn]

Can we get nudges for rails and water extractors ?

[rustic hare]

lmaoo

that's genius actually

[stray herald]

What are everyone's uses for Mk1 blueprints?

[true swallow]

anyone else not getting pocket dimension slots from MAM upgrades?

[wicked nacelle]

there were some lost in 1.0 so you're 3 short at the end but otherwise no

[wicked nacelle]

wasting spots in the build menu

[stray herald]

Literally 😭

[true swallow]

tried again on an autosave game.. getting 1 slot from the +6 upgrade

[stray herald]

It's tiny

[wicked nacelle]

I ended up with what you're supposed to end up with (like I said it's 3 "short"). You can use SCIM to set your inventory size to whatever you think it should be 🙂

[dense violet]

must suck to not be able to easily use mk1 blueprint machines

[dense violet]

you can put down groups of machines with all the belts pipes and power all connected. Yeah

[hybrid nymph]

I'm back bitches! -Vegeta

how are my Ficsit pioneers doing?

[neon cloak]

ehhhh is there point in starting a new game out of confusion

i probably will still need to solve problems of my world so i doubt it's the fix

[slender quest]

Unconfuse yourself, one step at a time.

[neon cloak]

ye

[dense violet]

a fresh start to help skill up the basics can be useful to some people, yes

[neon cloak]

my basics are cooked

[silk ocean]

I think I hate drones and vehicles now XD
My EM Control Rods drone has just vanished when I logged and the nuclear plant is starved.... wtf

Time to train this poop in

[neon cloak]

the months without playing were bad

thank Caterina Parks there is skip intro

[slender quest]

Took a long break too, but i'm addicted enough to remember everything I needed.

[neon cloak]

i was using impure iron ore all this time in previous one 💀

[neon cloak]

same but still not enough

[slender quest]

That's fine, as long as the job is done.

[shy fog]

Mission complete....

starting power source: Alien

no space elevator yet

[slender quest]

Ooo, one of my favourite ones! Used only that in 2nd save until coal.

[shy fog]

don't think I will be using any other power source at all now

[rancid plank]

I have a very strange question i've had stuck in my head all day, does the chainsaws aoe start from the player or the targeted item

[shy fog]

from player to target, there is a switch to throw for just target though

[rancid plank]

Sick, thanks ♥️

[shy fog]

this aoe is very inefficient... I tend to pick things up by hand first

[slender quest]

Wiki might have info too.

...Forgot the bot command.

[shy fog]

With the Chainsaw equipped, approach some flora (valid flora will be highlighted with a white outline) and Use Left to cut it. After the animation finishes, all flora within a 5-meter radius is cut (centered on the targeted object).[1]

appears I am incorrect, but also that's why the chainsaw is terrible

basically just eat trees with it

[neon cloak]

does area mode use more fuel?

[slender quest]

No.

[shy fog]

animation eats fuel, even if interupted

[stray herald]

Since I have no alternate recipes, do I just use oil then turn the heavy residue to petroleum coke and them sink it?

[shy fog]

eventually you make fuel

but overall your options are entirely on what you wana do

[slender quest]

Sure! Coal generators can use coke too, but at a slower rate than it gets sunk.

[stray herald]

Oh that's awesome!

I'll see if I can make power with it. Thanks!

[slender quest]

Though as Arty said already, fuel generators (ones that use liquid fuel) can be another option, though you unlock them a bit later.

[shy fog]

granted I am NOT the proper person to ask about efficiency in any way/shape/form

but I'ma go start being shenanigans with alien power

[slender quest]

Efficiency is just a few of all the points of view.

[shy fog]

probably starting with... I need the space elevator

[stray herald]

I saw it can be used for fuel as alternate recipes but I do not have them sadly

[shy fog]

storage is fun

[hybrid nymph]

storage is fun!

It's called being a hoarder lol

[smoky forge]

with mods its unfun

depo has 200k storage lol

[exotic pilot]

Hi chat I’m back at it again

I’m Sitting in a parking lot while it’s raining rn

[hybrid nymph]

Just listening to nightcore and playing satisfactory and drinking a beer

[neon cloak]

i like playing Satisfactory with 80s music

[hybrid nymph]

so like Pink Floyd?

[neon cloak]

going through caves on a trucker with Maniac

[neon cloak]

idk it

except

Another Brick in The Wall

[hybrid nymph]

We don't need no education

[dusty socket]

need a good place for my power plant, any suggestions?

[hybrid nymph]

When I was in highschool 10 years ago my teacher used to play that song and said it was the themesong of the class lol

what kind of power plant?

[dusty socket]

just a coal one

mid game rn, starting to make bigger factories

[dense violet]

every starting location has at least one location with like 3-4 coal nodes next to water. Go wander and find the one near you

[exotic pilot]

Guys hit me with your nerdiest satisfactory facts

[neon cloak]

@hybrid nymph Professor, is it costy to fuel trucks?

[hybrid nymph]

it can be

fuel is a decent gasoline

turbofuel is better

Do you have access to oil yet? if not Solid biofuel is the best you can do

[neon cloak]

i've started a new game

now went through tier 1 like a flash

[white dawn]

Early game, just using coal for tractors is entirely viable

[dark elbow]

hey guys.

[white dawn]

Once you get to packaged liquids, just plain ol' Packaged Fuel will be more than enough to see you through to trains + beyond

[dark elbow]

Do yall think they will have more biomes to exploit and perhaps even the other planets we see in the sky?

[hybrid nymph]

Nice new game

[neon cloak]

sounds insane

[hybrid nymph]

I am on tier 7

[neon cloak]

idk if devs will go that far

[white dawn]

Not any time soon, and definitely not outside the scope of hypothetical future content DLC or "Satisfactory 2" kind of situations

[neon cloak]

ye

[white dawn]

They've expressed a strong negative interest in doing more maps. :)

[dark elbow]

just a thought since the Wall of the game literally starts to kill you if you go past it lol

like "oh no don't go past here! it's not ready yet!"

[neon cloak]

holy fuck i've listened to that brick in the wall and autoplay blessed my ears right after

[exotic pilot]

Guys

Gimme your nerdiest satisfactory facts

[hybrid nymph]

I generate 1.21 gigawatts from my factory and I can back in time

I make so much copper that I'm just awesome sinking it

Nuclear power is the most efficient power source and it also generates radioactive waste

[exotic pilot]

Whyyyy

[hybrid nymph]

because I generate 900 per minute

[exotic pilot]

Just leave it be

[neon cloak]

zipline is good enough for early awesome sink ig

imo
but idk

not too hard but pays good

[exotic pilot]

!wikisearch awesomesink

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=awesomesink

[neon cloak]

Neural-Quantum Processor 💀

i didnt expect Satisfactory to have so much on 1.1

[exotic pilot]

I’m gonna automate every phase 5 item for the awesome sink

[neon cloak]

TheOnlyPigChickenDogGoat

Sheep pfp

i wonder if there are more animals in the desc

Minecraft account is TheOnlyDoggoGod

the man of pure dedication

[hybrid nymph]

payday 2 is my 3rd favorite game

Satisfactory is of course #1

[neon cloak]

i've slided under the hub and cant get out

any suggestions

[reef basin]

don't slide under the hub

[neon cloak]

nah it's not about prevention but solution

[reef basin]

reload save

[hybrid nymph]

Just turn on keep inventory and respawn

[exotic pilot]

How did you figure that out

[neon cloak]

i didnt know about both functions

[neon cloak]

discord description

[hybrid nymph]

well now you do, both are in the pause screen

[exotic pilot]

Oh

[neon cloak]

Mr. Bruce Lee aka Flowing Water

[exotic pilot]

What

[exotic pilot]

Is that translation?

[neon cloak]

#off-topic-media message

your pour water into cup, it becomes cup etc. etc.

be like water my friend

the famous interview with him

[indigo yew]

is there an easy way to change the icons for the ore nodes? i am using radar towers and iron and copper look the same

[exotic pilot]

Well I am standing in rain rn

[neon cloak]

be like a bo'ah of wo'ah

[neon cloak]

radar towers can do ts?!?!??!

[hybrid nymph]

sweet was resource collecting and just found 7 somersloops

[neon cloak]

dayum imma speed up

[exotic pilot]

Your confusing me

[indigo yew]

yes

[neon cloak]

it should be the other way around - you have more random nickname

[indigo yew]

I have spent some time putting radar towers around the map to see all the resources

[exotic pilot]

The pronoun thing?

[indigo yew]

(i know external tools could do this but i prefer no spoilers)

[neon cloak]

the everything

[exotic pilot]

What’s one specific thing

Also are you Russian or something

[neon cloak]

yes

bingo

[exotic pilot]

I’m so good at guessing stuff today

I guessed 4 things in a question and got them all right

[neon cloak]

what happened during Dyatlov Pass Incident 🤣

[exotic pilot]

Huh

[neon cloak]

are they unlocked in MAM?

[exotic pilot]

The what

[indigo yew]

yes

[hollow halo]

Uhh… hi :D

Completely new to the game, idk what I’m doing lol

[indigo yew]

do you want spoilers for what tree?

[exotic pilot]

Hi 🙂

Bruh

[hybrid nymph]

just gathering power slugs

[indigo yew]

||its at the bottom of the quartz mam line||

[exotic pilot]

I hate that feature

[neon cloak]

yo, your xbox nickname is seemingly not up to your profile standards

[hollow halo]

I had no choice in the matter 😔

[neon cloak]

most of us do not

[hollow halo]

So is it a fafo?

[neon cloak]

how tf did i never hear that abbreviation before

ye exactly

[hollow halo]

Fun stuff

[exotic pilot]

How do I disable the emoji thing when I do : - )

[hollow halo]

Uh… do :) instead

[neon cloak]

🙂

🙂

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[hollow halo]

Idk I don’t have that problem tbf

[exotic pilot]

I’ve tried that

[hollow halo]

Google might have the answer for you

[exotic pilot]

ew that thing

[next pike]

because there's literally nothing else.. either way I just remade the thing with 8 generators

[neon cloak]

i just noticed that you can do ctrlc and ctrlv in the constructor 😭

it's so much easier 😭

[exotic pilot]

Huh

Copy and paste what

[hybrid nymph]

wow hunting for powerslugs at night makes them stick out like a sore thumb

[neon cloak]

recipe

[exotic pilot]

How does one come across that

[neon cloak]

it's written in orange right under constructor hud

[exotic pilot]

Show me a picture

[hybrid nymph]

duplicating powerslugs with a somersloop is so busted! I love it!

[neon cloak]

#screenshots message

[neon cloak]

WHAT

[hybrid nymph]

yeah if you build a constructor and put a somersloop into it you can get double the powershards from the slugs

[neon cloak]

i doubt it's something you can learn from a jedi

[hybrid nymph]

it isn't I'm a sith lol

it's an ability some consider unnatural

[neon cloak]

And you, young Skywalker; we shall watch your career with great interest.

[hollow halo]

I fear I’m entirely confused

Is the whole point of this just… automating everything?

[cinder mesa]

I think so

[hollow halo]

And if so, how would I do that.. correctly (?)

[cinder mesa]

By being efficient

Idk I only have 100 hours

[hollow halo]

Sheesh…

Yeah i fear im increasingly lost

[cinder mesa]

How so?

[hollow halo]

I managed to get something automated

Like iron ingots to the sheets

But like… what now?

[cinder mesa]

Do as the game says

[cursive crane]

Milestones

[cinder mesa]

Yesh the milestones guide you

[cursive crane]

Anytime you are asking what to do

Power generation, Milestones, Tier upgrades, MAM Research, Awesome sink unlocks.

[cinder mesa]

Build the space elevator

[hollow halo]

Power generation…

[cursive crane]

Pretty much in that order too

[hollow halo]

So.. make a power grid first?

[cinder mesa]

Yesh

[cursive crane]

What do you have for power right now

[hollow halo]

Just using the HUB biomass burners right now

[cursive crane]

You oh man, you are just getting started. So then your next mission is to get to where you can automate power.
Coal generators. If you dont have them unlocked yet, work on milestones. If you are struggling with milestones, automate anything that you need to produce

If you need more power to get to that point, don't be afraid to build more biomass burners [can be semi automated, just need to manually gather biomass]

[cursive totem]

one huge mindset change i had to make when playig is: automating something even with an output of 0.1 per minute is better than building it manually on demand

just plop down a construtor and input / output bin somewhere and get it running

it doesnt matter if its not efficient

[hollow halo]

Fun stuff…

[cursive crane]

Fr. Storage bins you manually move stuff into that then automates construction is perfectly acceptable. Whatever you prefer or can manage

Whole game is basically just..
If you need A then do B so you can make C so you can do A faster

[wicked nacelle]

it's a whole genre of games - get a to unlock b. get b to unlock c. Most games like this end suddenly, as satisfactory does

[rustic hare]

the game is, f the world up however you like

[olive condor]

Not sure if this is the right channel, but does anyone know how to select synthesic power shard in SCIM's production planner?

[hollow halo]

I managed to auto concrete :3

[cursive totem]

time to PAVE EVERYTHING :letsfuckinggoooo:

[rustic hare]

goodbye normal foundations

[hollow halo]

I wanna make a factory of iron

[rustic hare]

no shit I burned through 5k concrete within 1 hr building train tracks 😂

[cursive totem]

easy yeah

[ivory condor]

But isnt however I want. I want to burn down the forests, leave nothing alive in my automation quest, this truly brutalistic gameplay is missing

[olive condor]

Games like this only end, if one has not enough imagination to set own goals.

[rustic hare]

petition for flamethrowers? I mean, we already have fuel, turbo fuel, rocket fuel and uh...

[hollow halo]

Tbh I looked at all the cool designs I could make in this game, and it fr just called my name

[ivory condor]

More options to really destroy the environment

[rustic hare]

meanwhile I just want to think of solutions, clean ones, most of the time spent is tearing down ugly things

[cursive crane]

Im currently increasing my concrete production to 1000k /m cuz 250 wasnt enough

[rustic hare]

I think I need more depots for concrete, keep running out of it

[ivory condor]

For example i can't just pump my by produces directly into the sea, why can't I just put my nuclear waste directly into the ocean

[cursive crane]

Teeeechnically you can

Enough trucks or lizards

[rustic hare]

you can put it in trucks and hurl them down bottomless pits though

[cursive totem]

so true

it would be so fun to have pollution build up

and reflect in the landscape

[cursive crane]

You ever played planet crafter?

[cursive totem]

not yet no

[hollow halo]

Is there a way to like.. get more iron from one drill?

Or am I doomed for slow iron?

[cursive totem]

do they actually despawn or will this fuck up my save file over time

[cursive crane]

If thats something you are looking for its interesting. More of a survival game then factory game, but games fun

[cursive crane]

Without spoilers? Yes
With spoilers? Yes in ||mam||

[rustic hare]

if we allow landscaping in this game I'm pretty sure we'll have the whole map flattened as a mid-tier canon event

[hollow halo]

Yes to fun options :D

[rustic hare]

|| note the ore purity too, there's also higher levels of drills and ways to overclock them in mam ||

[ivory condor]

Watch throw my nuclear waste into the cannons and throw at the environment just to see what happens

[cursive crane]

Otherwise, could check the purity of the node, and there are 3 versions of miners, each doubling the production of the last. [Mk 1, mk2, mk 3

Easiest way for you is to find a higher purity, everything else you are some time away from

[hollow halo]

Hm…

Exploration time :D

[rustic hare]

I can see lgio having a pit of floating trash instead of putting it in the sink if item sprites can be thrown off from the belts

[cursive crane]

Otherwise the game is made around finding logistics, spreading out, and bringing other nodes production together.

For an idea here, im in t9 starting to automate everything that uses iron, my base production rn is almost 5000k ingots/m
[Which is slightly overkill, could prob get by on half thatish]

[ivory condor]

Put countless portable miners on the nodes and get many of your friends to hand automate it

[rustic hare]

the game pace gets absolutely wild once you got some friends

[cursive crane]

More slaves friends you have to hand craft the faster you can advance

[earnest oak]

im having noticeably low fps and its not like im lategame or have a bad pc what could it be a result off. im running reccomneded preset which is ultra quality. most noticeable fps drops are when placing/destroying stuff

[hollow halo]

I wish I had friends

They all adult and do things, so I’m left to do this on my own

[cursive crane]

Ultra quality..

[earnest oak]

is it bad i mean its recomended and im getting like 120-160 fps dropping to 90 when placing/destroying

[hybrid nymph]

power is off again, ugh

[cursive crane]

You tell me, you are playing on it.
Do you want more steady frame rates?

[earnest oak]

well ya 240 preferably buy idk

switch to like medium?

[cursive crane]

Maximum framerate =/= average framerate

You could just limit your frames to 120 and it won't jump nearly as much, you could turn down any lighting/shadow related settings, you could just turn down the preset. Multiple ways to obtain what you want.
But I gurantee if you want 200+frames in a singleplayer factory building game, you are gonna want to turn your settings down.

If you want STABLE frames, turn your frames down.

[hollow halo]

I’m gonna do this weird thing where I’m gonna split my iron off into like.. 3 diff storage units with 3 diff items in em

Might not be effective, but it’ll work

[limpid cairn]

why is the fluid tank called fluid tank when it transports gasses

[hollow halo]

Because magic

[earnest oak]

someone help me otu with pipes

if a pipe is straight does it ever need a pump?

[hybrid nymph]

nope

[reef basin]

Gas is a fluid

[earnest oak]

ok and if a pipe is straight and entering from the side will it go the correct way?

[hybrid nymph]

okay on my way to fix the power

we just need more compacted coal

and yes I know running my entire factory off compacted coal isn't very good

but I like turbofuel

[hollow halo]

I managed to automate (really badly) almost everything iron related

[cursive crane]

Do you need the resources for something else?

Its neither a good or bad idea so long as you decide its purpose

[hybrid nymph]

show us in #screenshots

[hollow halo]

Lemme figure out how to screenshot in this game LOL

[cursive crane]

Windows+shift+s, select the crop, ctrl+v to paste

[undone shore]

The side?

[cursive crane]

[Or photo mode and all that in game]

[earnest oak]

like straight and another from the side

[ivory condor]

Biggest contributor is cpu bound logic slows down the engine being able to get frames ready to send to the gpu, as a result lowering graphics has diminishing returns depending on how cpu bound you already are

Some saves i have some interesting cpu bound issues where I can drop upwards of 300 frames, going from about 400 fps to 100, resulting in much game stuttering

[cursive crane]

Lower stable frames with medium settings is a lot better then higher unstable frames at low settings

High frames with low settings are for fps games and other things that require quick reactions.

Low frames with higher settings are for singleplayer/non competetive games

[hollow halo]

i got the screen in

holy lord i can english LOL

[earnest oak]

can someone chack ss and tell me if ittl work?

[chrome iron]

Why is so much MW being used in my factory? It’s 300mw and it’s enough to power 300k homes a year

[hybrid nymph]

it is but this game has high power consumption

[rustic hare]

there isn't a time component to the unit, it's power, not energy

[hybrid nymph]

yeah it is that's correct

it's like a computer lol

300 MW is nothing for this game

[rustic hare]

also 300MW is 300 million watts, divided by 300 thousand homes = 1 thousand watts of power per home? that's less than my microwave

[hybrid nymph]

I produce 10,000 MW

and that still isn't enough

dude I'm going to get like 250 power shards from using the somersloop to dupe them lol

[wraith lotus]

Finally I unlocked trains, something I can do!

[hybrid nymph]

good job, trains are awesome

[wraith lotus]

Is there a bigger blueprint designer at some point?

[chrome iron]

Your right 300mw is nothing. The factory must grow

[limpid cairn]

bruh i coppied a train junction from youtube just so it doesnt work

[reef basin]

best to build your own instead 😉

[hybrid nymph]

yep just as I expected 250 power shards

[limpid cairn]

i tried that and it didnt work either

[ivory condor]

Well in those saves there is no stable frames at any setting, even at the lowest settings because of the cpu bound issues

[reef basin]

make a #1038092680493801533 and share screenshots 😉

[ivory condor]

Thought absolutely lowest graphics might help but basically, not at all

[peak wasp]

I love this game

[earnest oak]

is the ai frame generation worth it?

ive experienced many game freezes leading me to having to close the game its task man and having to restart from last save point

[hybrid nymph]

sounds like you have a crappy computer

[waxen crystal]

question, how much did 1.0 change the dynamic between trains vs drones? ik trains are substancially better at handling higher throughput items, but seeing now as drones can take way more fuel types, could you just be super lazy and use lots of drones for most things.

[silk ocean]

I find it makes it more stuttery and doesn't adhere to vsync (not this game specifically, just in general)

I guess it's more the vsync/tearing

[boreal musk]

droned did get some changes, theyre now able to use every type of fuel except biofuel and coal

[chrome iron]

I have old cpu and not the greatest pc but game runs smoothly on ultra

[waxen crystal]

right but the question i was asking more so had to do with trains vs drones.

[boreal musk]

it depends, trains bring large amount of throughput

while drones can bring small amount of resources

[waxen crystal]

right, ik but, seeing as drones can take different fuel types instead of just batterys now, is drone spam more vialbe, for just being lazy

[boreal musk]

and also easier to set up

you can also do drones only if you want

pretty cheap too
300/min packaged rocket fuel can fuel 100+ drones

[waxen crystal]

honestly, debating doing that, im not doing a megafactory save rn, just i wanna beat the game, then im gonna redo some stuff on a modded run like making milestone harder, and space elevator having upkeep to actually warant a space elevator part factory, so rn just trying to go with whatever is easier

guess im just gonna do drone spam lol

thats easiest

[limpid cairn]

small question, when im needing 250 water per min should i use a t1 pipe instead of a t2 pipe?

[waxen crystal]

mabye a few trains here and there, instead of a big sprawling network

[waxen crystal]

doesnt really matter

[limpid cairn]

so its just resource efficient?

[waxen crystal]

yep

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> qa site still down due to ssl cert (don't forget, let's encrypt turned off the auto email notifications)

[cursive crane]

Not the issue in this particular case though, those saves are... a different problem

While we have you here CM we love you

Also marv sighting

[ivory condor]

Yeah different problem. I tested the saves also in directx11, which somehow runs better, meaning directx12 is less optimized somehow

[reef basin]

afaik they were already pinged multiple times and had internet issues yesterday, so problematic to resolve (also site hosted at their offices, so may have something to do with that)

[hybrid nymph]

very nice, I have trippled my compacted coal production

[ivory condor]

I always knew directx11 was the superior api though so that just confirms it

Actually should test vulkan and see if it changes anything to

[sage scroll]

Vulkan is love, Vulkan is life

[hybrid nymph]

I have 6 assemblers producing compacted coal

[leaden turret]

is letsencrypt cert, can manually renew if auto renew is failing

[reef basin]

renew still needs internet connection 🤷

[leaden turret]

server still up, qasite has internet connection, if hosted in office is also not problem.

unless the person qualified is wfh and swedeninternets be derpin

[hybrid nymph]

question: does anyone know how to use train signals? If sdo could you hop on my game and do it for me? They make no sense to me

[leaden turret]

https://qasite.satisfactory.video/ still working for people wanting to browse the qa site tho 😅

[reef basin]

block signals separate tracks to blocks, each block can only have one train

[limpid cairn]

watch videos tbh

way better to understand everything

[reef basin]

but beware as many videos are misleading or wrong

[ivory condor]

I tried using it, game doesn't like it and did direcx11 forced instead

[rocky haven]

Finally got round to making a rocket fuel power station. Took me at least 15-20 hours, but it's finished. sixteen generator towers with 24 batteries at the base which can be tripled if required. 129 Gigawatts plus 133 packaged turbo fuel. Biggest project I've taken on yet. Thank goodness for Mk.2 blueprints.

[ivory condor]

Why doesnt the game want me to use vulkan hmmm

[limpid cairn]

watch gaming with doc *

[limpid cairn]

i guess your gpu doesnt support it?

would be my guess

[ivory condor]

But I have used vulkan on this gpu, its a 4080 btw, strange, tried again, still directx 11 forced hmmm

Game really doesnt want me to use vulkan, odd

[green fiber]

Did you perhaps enforce DX11 via launch arguments

[ivory condor]

Checked gpu z, says vulkan is supported to, hmmm

[rigid fractal]

Anyone know why the sky is flickering whenever i move around in certain biomes?

[ivory condor]

Nope, no launch arguments are set

[wary fox]

How many water extractors do I need to run 16 coal generators?

[shy mulch]

Must be the San-Ti

[reef basin]

the coal gen tells you how much it needs 🙂

[rigid fractal]

im in one of the starter biomes that might be it

[ivory condor]

Well forced vulkan worked via launch argument hmmm

[rigid fractal]

but the sky is flickering and glitching a lot

only on certain times of day

[ivory condor]

So that does work, just not via using the in-game setting, strange

Both directx11 and vulkan run better than directx12, guess those are the superior apis now

[peak wasp]

evening, pioneers

[ivory condor]

Its interesting directx12 runs noticeably worse than the other two apis, definitely not results i would have expected

[severe orchid]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1409824111173046292/1409824111538208829/image.png?ex=68aec885&is=68ad7705&hm=5fa3c9a837dc80af64b729f95ca74f6484bd13131a2f849a1dc688d8fcc5f053&

Is this a bug or a skill issue?

[limpid cairn]

post it into #screenshots

[severe orchid]

one sec

[cursive crane]

It being scrunched? You can open your inventory and stretch it

But maybe not horizontal hm

[severe orchid]

yeah only lets me drag up or down

[fluid sapphire]

i have seen this too, sometimes it does put each letter of a single word on separate lines

[cursive crane]

Hold up

What is your ui/hud resizing in settings?

Might be related to that

[severe orchid]

I checked that and ui scaling was set to 1

changed it to 0.9 and back again

no change in issue 🙁

[cursive crane]

Check your #1038092680493801533

[severe orchid]

well played

what's funny is, this all started when I removed a building from the to do list, but adding one and removing fixed it

[cursive crane]

Someone was saying it could be related to changing video settings too

Buttt either way if that fisc(d)it

[severe orchid]

As a reward, have a picture of my storage tower :p #screenshots message

[cursive crane]

My lord

[ivory condor]

Perfect

[small notch]

yo

if i unlock the conveyors mk2 can i just upgrade the mk1 ones without having to delete them

[hybrid nymph]

ugh the dumb trains crashed again

[gusty bronze]

Yes

[small notch]

ok ty

[fluid sapphire]

hold Ctrl and hover over the mk1 belt to upgrade

[small notch]

ty

[gusty bronze]

You can upgrade anything in the game without having to delete as long as you have the full mats on you

[boreal musk]

no need to hold ctrl to upgrade belt

hold ctrl is only needed for merger/splitter

[fluid sapphire]

ah. ok. i dont really ever upgrade belts xd

[gusty bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-star-wars-gif-3165679371261510539

[hard ivy]

You only need to hold ctrl when swapping a splitter for a smart splitter or w/e

If you don't, it just places on top

[fluid sapphire]

stating something incorrect is truly the quickest way to get a correct answer on the internet

[gusty bronze]

One thing I really wished they added and never did, auto building conveyors to a conveyor stacker

[hard ivy]

I think someone said you can swap walls with ctrl too but I never build walls so don't quote me on that

[fluid sapphire]

this one i can confirm 😄

[fluid sapphire]

i am at the point where there isnt much reason to, aside from a couple belts in my whole complex that were specifically built to be upgraded later, otherwise i just build my systems and leave them

[hybrid nymph]

what tier are you on?

I need to get to the next upgrades

[fluid sapphire]

i have done all phase 4 milestones, but am not yet crafting the parts

everything up to and including tier 8

[hybrid nymph]

oh wow, I'm still stuck on tier 7, just trying to upgrade my factory at the moment

[fluid sapphire]

i handcrafted and couponed my way through tier 7 and 8

it was worth it

[hybrid nymph]

you should hop on my game

what nuimber of playthrough are you on?

[ivory condor]

time for more handcrafting?

[fluid sapphire]

my first xd

[hybrid nymph]

I'm on my third and have 92 hours on this save

[fluid sapphire]

nop. no more

i am now working on producing everything

i think my aluminum is finally working fine

[stray herald]

@hollow halo Congrats on automating iron!:D Congrats on becoming a more efficient pioneer to better serve FICSIT (Can't reply on the screenshots channel)

[crude canyon]

Last words

[hybrid nymph]

my conveyor belts are not fast enough

to handle the rtesources commming in from the trains

[crude canyon]

more stations

[hybrid nymph]

No you don't get it, my storage is FULL!!

[crude canyon]

sink

[fluid sapphire]

i spent countless hours troubleshooting, the production end is rock solid. offloading my trains was a bit problematic, now there is only one train that can still struggle just a bit (maybe) - but it should work, i mean it has worked for like 6 hours just fine

[stray herald]

FICSIT does not approve of this inefficiency

[fluid sapphire]

4500 aluminum ingots eheh

[stray herald]

☠️

[hybrid nymph]

I have 2 deep storage units of: SAM fluctuators, silica, quartz, plastic, and rubber

[fluid sapphire]

its an unnecessarily large building

[hybrid nymph]

I am literally just awesome sinking all of my incoming resources from my trains at this point because I have no idea what to do with them

[stray herald]

You got screenshots?

[fluid sapphire]

on it

[fluid sapphire]

#screenshots message

its almost 1300m long xd

[stray herald]

Wow. Brilliant cable management (belts)

[hybrid nymph]

this is my storage in #screenshots

[stray herald]

I always start as clean as possible but then I kinda just do whatever towards the end😭

[fluid sapphire]

ignore the power towers, its just for the hoverpack, they are not functional

but thanks 😄

[stray herald]

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE TRAINS

[hybrid nymph]

they're right behind me

[stray herald]

I guess I can say you are making... An INSANE amount of Aluminum ingots

[crude canyon]

an AWESOME amount of aluminum ingots

[fluid sapphire]

i thought i would just get it over with, you know, it should easily be enough for the rest of the playthrough

[hybrid nymph]

I really need mk5 conveyor belts

[fluid sapphire]

yes, you do

[stray herald]

Producing more Aluminum than ALL ingot types I'm producing in my world combined

[fluid sapphire]

i slapped together a temporary facility for aluminum sheets before doing this

[fluid sapphire]

you'll make more i bet xd,

you wouldnt believe what i do with my waste water

[stray herald]

Waste water... I'm assuming from nuclear power?

I just barely unlocked oil

[fluid sapphire]

aluminum scrap

[crude canyon]

from aluminum

[stray herald]

Oh

[crude canyon]

oh you haven't gone there yet

[fluid sapphire]

3k copper ingots and 7k iron ingots, thats what

[stray herald]

Giving it to the doggo lizards?

[stray herald]

That's crazy

[fluid sapphire]

its a 190 refineries xd

[stray herald]

The game scales so fast late

[stray herald]

Where do you even fit that MANY 😭

[fluid sapphire]

you dont have to do that, its just felt more painless compared to recycling the water

[hybrid nymph]

What should I do with all of my plastic and rubber? my deep storage units are FULL!!

[fluid sapphire]

sink it for now

[crude canyon]

oh don't worry, there's plenty of uses for those later on :)

[stray herald]

I use a smart splitter that sends all overflows to a sink

[hybrid nymph]

I'm already doing that

[stray herald]

I'm on phase 3 and I just built my firs motor factory

[crude canyon]

electronics like high speed connectors and circuit boards

[fluid sapphire]

here, build vertically
#screenshots message

[stray herald]

I did phase 2 entirely by just buying motors 💯

[crude canyon]

I don't think you need motors for phase 2

[hybrid nymph]

well then, I have enough automated wiring to last me the rest of the entire game...

guess I need to sink the rest

I have 4 deep storage units full of automated wiring

[stray herald]

It was stators, you're right

[crude canyon]

oh you sweet summer child

[stray herald]

Close enough

[stray herald]

You got a math sheet for this build?

[crude canyon]

have you heard of adaptive control unit?

[fluid sapphire]

for the aluminum
https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=iJZx3qxHkQhTsiYYSUDX

for the waste water

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=HcB5k1g0lvxaPDZ1ZG8G

note that like i said, unlike this scheme, the water is not recycled, i feed 5000 water, and then use the 3000 waste to make the ingots

[hybrid nymph]

alright heading to bed

[silk ocean]

Anyone seen this issue where I am pegged on 100% radiation? Tried reloading, no bar but still pegged 100% because the filters are draining. Nothing in the inventory

Respawn fixed it

[crude canyon]

are you playing with refined power?

If so, maybe you picked up thorium

[silk ocean]

Just vanilla

I have the option to retain inventory on death, not sure if respawn removes it anyway, either way inventory didn't change on respawn but the radiation stopped

[hard ivy]

If it was the bug I know, reloading should've fixed it

[silk ocean]

Didn't seem to in my case xD

[ivory condor]

Eternal radiation

[silk ocean]

Green4ever

[boreal musk]

did u sort the inventory while having uranium or any radiation stuff inside?

[silk ocean]

Yeah I think I did actually come to think about it, then I went and put the uranium in the buffer, expected my rads to stop when moving away, but didn't

[boreal musk]

thats caused the bug

[silk ocean]

Ah right, at least it's a known one xD Thanks

[safe rose]

Anyone heard if they’re gonna have pre orders for console? Or a deluxe edition?

[blissful fable]

dimensional depots are amazing

[silk ocean]

Can confirm xD

[next pike]

why is the cargo not loading to the truck? I sent a screenshot #screenshots

[boreal musk]

did you set the station to load?

[silk ocean]

position looks okay

Trucks are just a joy to the world XD

[inner timber]

Haven’t played satisfactory in over a year and a half have they improved the controller controls at all since their gonna be releasing on ps5 soon thought I might ask

[fluid sapphire]

a year and a half ago the game didnt even have controller support

but yes, there is controller support now, i hear its pretty good

[crude canyon]

i found it weird that it's either controller or no controller, but no way to mix

[fluid sapphire]

yeah, it is weird

[next pike]

It was just a bug since I loaded before while moving, so the station got stuck and I had to recreate the station

[steep creek]

I doubt this will be viable but I kinda wish that the Devs added like pollution and stuff to the game it would mainly be like just a visual thing so like dead plants and smog but you could toggle it idk

[dense violet]

you can play a game called eco for that. But thats not at all an intrisic part of the game

[next pike]

#screenshots I'm having issues with the truck can someone help me?

[pastel zodiac]

Hey guys, after a long time, I wanted to start Satisfactory again, but instantly after starting the game, it crashes.
Is it okay to paste the error code in here for someone to have a quick look at it or is there a better place? I have already verified the game files.

[leaden turret]

#1038092680493801533 thread to avoid wall-of-text

[leaden turret]

bear in mind this was before the 1.0 release:

December 20th, 2022 Livestream
Q&A: Are there plans to add consequences for abusing this pretty little planet?
https://youtu.be/DX4hk0Z_9s4

[steep creek]

Hopefully now that 1.0 is out they may reconsider I mean idk about the monster thing I think just having the visual pollution would look cool

[gusty bronze]

Not only is 1.0 out, but 1.1 is also out, hears hoping for 2.0

[steep creek]

Probably quite a while till 2.0 lol

[gusty bronze]

My old settings from 1.0 didn't work and I crashed, forced the render engine to be dx12 and it fixed it

[leaden turret]

the issue one supposes is if it's vfx-only or if it's mechanical difference; there was a long-standing nope on factory maintenance, although I think it'd be interesting to have some volumetric smog etc.

[steep creek]

Yeah that's all I was suggesting it's all just visual maybe make machines that emit smoke if they aren't covered in a building could maybe have the smoke travel up into the sky but I mean I think it should be toggle on/off

[pastel zodiac]

Do you mean putting -DX12 into the start arguments? If so, that didn't work for me

[ivory condor]

try -dx11?

[leaden turret]

I can't remember if it ever got added back in the game, but a while back smoke vfx would collide with foundation ceilings

[gusty bronze]

Yeah, I originally used -vulkan

[pastel zodiac]

Neither of them work unfortunately.
Welp, gotta try a reinstall then

[steep creek]

Yeah I think it still does but like if it doesn't collide with anything it doesn't like dissipate until like they travel up into the atmosphere

Is what I'm suggesting

[ivory condor]

not even -dx11 worked?

[pastel zodiac]

Nope, but what is strange: The Mod Manager seems to crash every time it tries to update as well, so maybe it is related to that?

[ivory condor]

you dont have mods enabled do you?

i would disable and see if that works

[pastel zodiac]

I had them enabled before 1.0, but now the SMM seems to be in some kind of limbo 😅

[ivory condor]

now im wondering if this is actually a mod issue....

[rare rivet]

With bigger systems using any form of liquid in pipes is it always a good idea to have a form of like buffer, a fluid tank before the machines using the fluid? And any advice on if using 100% of the pipe's through put on paper is bad?

[ivory condor]

well only the crash report would tell anything

[pastel zodiac]

It says 'IsUsingMods: No', but dunno if that's true
I have create a thread in #1038092680493801533

[dense violet]

that's the worst idea. Essentially always avoid valves and buffers

[dense violet]

doing 600 in pipes is doable, but the higher the flow the less teh pipes have tolerance for shenanigans

[ivory condor]

hmmm looks accurate, issue with the GlobalIdentifier

[rare rivet]

Why? Just curious not trying to challenge

[gusty bronze]

And the lord thy ficsot said, if you have 600 liquid in a pipe, split it before you use it

[dense violet]

at best they do nothing, at worst they hide or cause flow issues

so essentially they're just potential failure points if you don't build them exactly right. And if you do build them exactly right they do nothing

[pastel zodiac]

Deinstalled the SMM, but still doesn't work

[dense violet]

did you manually delete the mod folers as well? you often get mod left overs from uninstalls

[ivory condor]

cant find a DataDrivenPlatformInfo file in any of the known directories either

[pastel zodiac]

There are some .cfg files in the Configs-folder which look like mods, but I'm not 100% sure on everything

[silk ocean]

Think I've decided that Ficsonium isn't worth the effort right now, just going to keep sinking the Plutonium xD

[rare rivet]

What about pumps? Would that alleviate any flow issues or assist with a completely full pipe?

[hard ivy]

Junctions are fucked so pumps can help even on level pipes

But probably don't use pumps unless you're moving fluid up

[rare rivet]

Okay at least I did that right lol, I'll have to make a forum post for help if my stupid fuel factory doesn't even out when I play later today. Turns out scaling everything up by a factor of 4 causes some issues

[pastel zodiac]

Gonna do a reinstall now, but thank you for your help! ☺️

[ivory condor]

its a odd crash message

[pastel zodiac]

So is my PC sometimes... 😅

[dense violet]

if you can find a mod folder delete it

[dense violet]

pumps are not a cure all, they, very occasionally and in some situations can nudge something with a bit more stability

other than that though most of hte time if youre spamming them it's useless

[pastel zodiac]

Everything is deleted now, but thanks for your help as well!

[silk ocean]

What do you folks use for modding? Nexus Mods?

[fossil ice]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @dense violet

[hard ivy]

SMM

ficsit.app

[silk ocean]

Ah right there's a dedicated program, nice, ta

[hard ivy]

Or be a chad and use UE Editor lmao

[silk ocean]

xD

[rare rivet]

I try to avoid them just cuz it feels like wasted power, not that it really matters 😂 I did use two total for pumping vertically in 2 spots

[unkempt blade]

like most utility/logistics stuff with a power cost you'll mostly want to be slightly mindful of them early-mid game and can almost completely ignore the power cost once you're really scaling up power

4mw is basically nothing by the time you're hitting oil power stuff

[rare rivet]

Indeed, that was the goal with this factory, just stubborn pipes or stupid me is causing the dreaded not perfectly flat power production, realistically it's like 95% effective but that occasional dip is so annoying

[unkempt blade]

Yeah predictable power is waaaay more helpful than a tiny bit of power savings. You're going in the right direction it sounds like

[rare rivet]

Just got nuclear power unlocked but that'll be a bit before we swap from oil to that lol

[silk ocean]

Keep both xD

[cunning glade]

Hey chat just got tier 5 and 6 unlocked it's kinda alot so I was wondering what I should focus on after unlocking them

[rare rivet]

I want my blender and diluted fuel recipe, feels like a sin to do direct oil to fuel

[hard ivy]

That's because it is

[dense violet]

pick a milestone and go

[unkempt blade]

the item requirements for each one kind of guides you a little bit, I'd mostly just follow where it steers you

[rare rivet]

Any good methods for distributing flow across pipes? It's easy with belts but pipes I got no clue for a reliable way tho, it'd be fairly easy with a total flow rate below that of the pipe but I'm 60m^3 away from two full pipes, prolly smart to split that into 3

[dense violet]

point A to point B manifold

that's it

[dense violet]

full pipes are doable. Just don't make them weird

[rare rivet]

Wym by weird

[unkempt blade]

I swear by a loop from the end of the manifold back to where the liquid comes in

[dense violet]

keep the manifold flat
don't have a lot of splits and merges before the inputs (hence point A to point B)

[unkempt blade]

the easiest way is probably just making your row of things consuming that liquid match the amount you have available (overclock/underclock as needed for fractions of things)

I'd usually let the pipe fill all the way up before you turn on all the consumers too

[rare rivet]

Hmm imma bet that's my issue then, I didn't wanna place like a thousand foundations to link up all of the extractors on level ground so I just piped across terrain.... The pipes never go up more than maybe 4 meters in total before the pumps to get it to the refineries

[rare rivet]

Yeah it's matched, ive checked that about 294 times

[cunning glade]

Fair

[rare rivet]

Ill have to look into it more tho, I don't wanna clog this channel up with this lol

[cunning glade]

I unlocked jetpack and refineries and one other thing and got off so kinda of alot too work towards just feel very overwhelming thinking about it

I wish I didn't try thinking ahead so much

[rare rivet]

Ignore all proper progression strategies and just go trains, this is the way

[unkempt blade]

I'd do petroleum power ASAP then if you haven't and probably do fluid packaging so you can use the jetpack when you explore

[cunning glade]

I thought about trains but I don't have a use for them yet

[rare rivet]

My first use for trains is after I do fuel gens for power and make plastic and rubber at that remote factory

[cunning glade]

I like this idea

That's what I was thinking

But the oil isn't that far from home I don't think

[rare rivet]

I have considered trains to bring the oil back home but that seems like a diabolical idea

[unkempt blade]

I'd cosign trains as a fun idea but oil power is what's going to let you scale power enough to use them a lot without shooting yourself in the foot

[dense violet]

the space in between the producers and consumers don't really mater as long as you have enough headlift

[cunning glade]

I def need power

[dense violet]

plan to use your fluids where you extract them. Makes life easier

use the oil on location for example

[cunning glade]

I have a 1600w coal power plant that is just producing enough too keep my factory up

So power is def on the list of needs

[rare rivet]

But trains

[dense violet]

I'm just giving you advice on the ways to minimize pipe hardship while you don't know much about them. I'm not your mum, do what you want

[cunning glade]

Man tonight gonna be fun I'm gonna work on phase 5 and 6 on edibles it should all go well

[rare rivet]

Haha, yeah I always use it where I extract, just never moved fluids with trains before, probably for the best

[cunning glade]

Could I go make 2 oil power planets that make rubber and thing bring them too where I need rubber prolly a second factory making it and using it?

[dense violet]

if you do use one of these buffer systems at the load and unload . copy it exactly #design-and-architecture message

[unkempt blade]

in general it's going to be less effort moving solids to liquids instead of the opposite but also I'm a sucker for vehicles so...

[dense violet]

save the images or hte link or something

[cunning glade]

Idk how much plastic or rubber I'll need tbh

Never got this far

[dense violet]

figure that out first. Decide what you're making with it

[cunning glade]

That's the thing I don't know

I will once I hop on later

[dense violet]

so wait until you decide and go do something else

[ruby fern]

I have previously used trains to bring 15000 water up a cliff and can now say from experience use liquids where you find em unless you are trying to cause yourself undo hardship

[cunning glade]

Well this is my next goal

Is oil which also makes plastic tho no?

Bi product I thought or something

[dense violet]

there's a lot of different production paths with oil products

[rare rivet]

Oh neat, I was wondering what the best solution to that problem was, thanks

[cunning glade]

I see

Well my next plan is oil power

[rare rivet]

Oh god lol

[dense violet]

I mean you ahd to know that was self harm from teh start

[ruby fern]

Yea it was my choice to build nuclear reactors in the red forest

[rare rivet]

Radioactive train > water train (I've never done nuclear power but I'm assuming it's uranium and water)

[silk ocean]

Not a bad location, there is a Pure? uranium there and it's pretty central

[rare rivet]

I found out the other day that holding uranium without any protection, if there is any, hurts quite a bit

[boreal musk]

theres no pure uranium node

[silk ocean]

A uranium node at least xD

I have a station there to take it far north-west to my plant

[bronze dagger]

I just hit phase 3 and I don’t wanna keep progressing cause i don’t want the game to end😬

[rare rivet]

The game ends when you have used 100% of resources on the map at 100% efficiency

[silk ocean]

gather all hard drives and sloops XD

[sick dragon]

The game ends when you want it to.

[dense violet]

it's a sand box.
it only ends when you exhaust your creativity

[bronze dagger]

All true, but objective completion and big number go up makes my brain happy

[steep creek]

You can always make up your own objectives

[rare rivet]

Make your own big numbers to reach, it's not exactly the same tho

[silk ocean]

phases 3,4,5 are like 1,2 times 10 xD

[dense violet]

Minecraft isn't over when you kill the Enderdragon is it?

[steep creek]

For example mine is to deforest the entire planet

[bronze dagger]

I usually don’t even make it to that point lolll

[steep creek]

Yeah I'm gonna finish project assembly then make a massive bomb factory

Nuke factory lol

[bronze dagger]

Friend will start playing with me soon though so we might make an economy

Limit certain resources to someone

[steep creek]

Oh yeah and after that I'm going to pave the entire planet with concrete

[sick dragon]

This man is an industrialist

Make him ceo

[steep creek]

Lmao

[vale palm]

whats the best recipe to use for turbo motors? im new to phase 4

[steep creek]

Oh yeah another objective of mine is to use every node in the planet

[dense violet]

like every other recipe choice - depends on what you're doing , where , how much, and how you like to do things

There's no single best recipe for any item

[vale palm]

ah okey, thanks, then ill do a lot of planning

[hard ivy]

I like electric because that's what SFTools choses and it's pretty convenient to use

But it does cost a lot of RCUs

[sick dragon]

Lucky me I automated 20 of those a minute already

[crude canyon]

Making RCUs is the biggest pain of my life

Ok like
It's when the endgame begins

[vale palm]

i'm currently doing the calculations for turbo pressure motors, its just nitrogen, copper and iron, and then the pressure cubes which i also need for nuclear pasta

[crude canyon]

Because you need loads of different parts to make RCUs

[dense violet]

pressure is fairly commonly used as Nitrogen is a bit of a trash resources easy to supply

[dense turtle]

i wish there was a tool like a valve for items on conveyors

[dense violet]

there is

[dense turtle]

huh

[dense turtle]

a mod?

[hard ivy]

It's called a belt limiter and you can build one

Not that they're actually useful

[dense turtle]

but whats that like some contraption

or just an item from mam

[hard ivy]

Splitters, smart splitters, mergers, priority mergers, different tiers of belts and you can limit any belt to any value you want

[dense turtle]

but if my factory wants 160 it will only take 160 and the rest will go to another one right

[hard ivy]

Yes

That's why I said belt limiters are useless

[unkempt blade]

they're pretty decent if you're in a spot with your save where you don't mind trading some coal for better iron efficiency (usually when I'm replacing coal generators with oil power for me personally)

[hard ivy]

99.9% of the time you can just use machines to limit belts

[rare rivet]

You love balancers tho, isn't that going against your nature

[hard ivy]

Balancers are actually useful if used right

Not that most people use them right

[crude canyon]

Eh. I'm doing a road network, and belt limiters are indispensable.

I have a truck sending hmf, and then those go into 2 different places. One of them needs like 5, the other one needs 7 per min, and I'm making 20 per min

[unkempt blade]

what are you using them for recently? I used to use them in my radioactive stuff but haven't really felt the need since they added multiple equipment slots

[silk ocean]

I think instead of Ficsonium, which is on hold xD time for a blended fuel plant in da crater

[unkempt blade]

ahh interesting, I mostly get lazy and just use an overflow rule and prioritize one over the other until the prioritized one fills up

[hard ivy]

Tbf belt limiters are also useful when used right. It's just very rare

[crude canyon]

Some of these routes are mixed, so I can't overflow these

[unkempt blade]

I guess when I still had a central mall I would equalize the belts leaving my train stops for incoming items before sorting them into storage

[crude canyon]

If you're building small predictable factories it's not a factor.

But I like to expand my small factories into eldritch abominations

[dense violet]

it's called 'clocking'.
clock the machines to put that amount on a belt

it's the most powerful logistics management tool you have

[unkempt blade]

a true capitalist!

[rare rivet]

Aren't there splitters that let you choose output speeds or am I hallucinating

[shy mulch]

no, but there are ways, with maths

[dense violet]

that would get rid of a ton of hte logistic problem solving in a logistics problem solving and design game

[crude canyon]

Programmable splitters are just smart splitters but with a lot more options than 1

[rare rivet]

Ah okay, hallucinating it was lol

[unkempt blade]

you can use multiple splitters and mergers together to build fractional splitters and sort of do that but not just as a single splitter

[clever sandal]

like a true what?

[silk ocean]

I'm sure I hallucinated last night that I am good at this game XD

[rare rivet]

Yeah I'm aware of traditional means, I just incorrectly thought programmable splitters had that functionality

[hard ivy]

I used a limiter once recently (well, recently is a bit of a stretch, that was in U8). Made an electronics factory that had like 15 belts of QW. Wanted 240 for myself. No real way to overflow 240 to storage without splitting the QW production up so I used 2 mk2 belts to limit the flow to 240

[dense violet]

yes but it can get impossibly complicated very quickly if you don't plan around it

[clever sandal]

you reply to wrong person

[ivory condor]

[clever sandal]

anyways does anyone know how many smelters can I use on a single copper mk1 mine

[hard ivy]

Divide the miner's output by 1 smelter's consumption

[dense violet]

depends how much copper ore you're minning per min

why are you doing math in machines?

[hard ivy]

And remember that the output rate is capped by belt speed

[clever sandal]

its normal rate

[dense violet]

so zero. Since mines at base output nothing

[unkempt blade]

hey it's a unit like any other! 😆

[rare rivet]

I give up on balancers as soon as I can't directly split and have to do shenanigans, in my experience you have to let the machines fill before starting them to get them at 100% anyways so why not just manifold

[clever sandal]

what

tf?

[hard ivy]

If you don't learn how to do math yourself, you're gonna die before you get to oil

[clever sandal]

I need zero smelters for a copper ingot

[dense violet]

a 'normal' node doesn't output anything. you have to do things to it

use numbers

[unkempt blade]

yeah but what if I placed like 200 portable miners on it and I hand feed my smelters?

[clever sandal]

i died in my previous world of my spaghetti planning

[hard ivy]

Then do math

[unkempt blade]

I'll die first! Math is for nerds

[hard ivy]

Oh, I use manifolds too. Up to one belt total. Then I use balancers to balance manifolds so I don't have to do belt and clock speed math. Take the plan from SFTools and it just works

[rare rivet]

Hey that's effective at times, I do this with Sam and caterium in the beginning usually

[clever sandal]

im not on my math mind yet im still on summer mind

[ivory condor]

Do i want to know how you made the copper ingots in that case

I mean sure the pure recipes exist but you need to get to refineries to make them that way

[clever sandal]

hand

[unkempt blade]

yeah if you just need to slam out some resources to get research or whatever it's awesome

[ivory condor]

I should have known

[clever sandal]

anyways its say 60

what was the formula again

[ivory condor]

So 60 copper ingots a minute

[clever sandal]

yeah how many smelters do I use on that

[ivory condor]

2 smelters

[sick dragon]

Pop a smelter down and look at its inputs and outputs

[ivory condor]

Its 30min per smelter

[spiral summit]

how tf does my fps drop from 70 to 4 vro 🥀

my cart just did a front flip

[unkempt blade]

you should drive it over a jump pad, it gets even more xtreme

[dense violet]

how much does each smelter recipe use at 100%?

[unkempt blade]

I don't have enough fingers to count that high, should I underclock it?

[clever sandal]

idk i just deleted it

[limpid cairn]

guys when placing junctions the block signals should always be at the exist and point backwards right?

[reef basin]

valves on pipes are practically pointless and valves on belts would be the same

[unkempt blade]

but I want to make sure my conveyors only move stuff in one direction 🙁

[willow glen]

oh please no screw sloshing

[unkempt blade]

lol as if screws could ever have a lack-of-saturation problem

[willow glen]

I was gonna say plastic but recycled plastic can kinda slosh if ya build it weird

[limpid cairn]

Guys I fixed my train issue, I just had to rebuild my entire rails 🙂

[distant badge]

I mean, with sufficient valves you can prevent sloshing
Just need 1 between every single pipe segment
-# I have not tested this

[fluid moat]

i just got the game and im on the 5th hub upgrade so how do i get power for the machines?

[dense violet]

it's still not a reliable way of doing things.

valves don't actually stop the fluid in front of them from knocking the fluid behind them backwards

[shadow bolt]

how do i use cluster nobelisk

[hard ivy]

While that is technically true, you cannot put a valve between a junction and a pipe

[distant badge]

I forget in which HUB phase it appears, but there should be a biomass burner at the back of the hub (behind the room)
Alternatively, you should be able to build a burner. Q to build, it'll be under the 'power' tab on the left-hand side of your screen.
You'll need to connect the machines to the burners with cables and power poles. Each machine only has 1 power cable slot, so you'll want to use power poles to distribute the power to more than 1 machine
And also don't forget to fuel your burners.

[fluid moat]

Thanks for this, very helpful 👍

[distant badge]

It can only knock the fluid behind it backwards if it's full (or fuller than the pipe in front), so that shouldn't be an issue.
@hard ivy's pipe junction issue is bigger, though.

[dense violet]

no, even if the pipe isn't full if the fluid flows back wards towards the valve it can knock it back

you want completely full pipes, and a loop for high flow pipes. And in those cases the valves don't do anything

Mcgal has reported that with some manifold systems stickign a valve at every input and start of hte manifold can stabalise things but it's not a universal backflow solution to pipe manifolds like a loop is

[small notch]

On this big floor thing I made I filled it with some production stuff but is it bad that I have to funnel ingredients in from 100s of metres away or does it not matter

[vale palm]

What is a descent amount of batteries to make for drones? what does a drone usualy use? Because i wanna use drones but want to pre manufacture all the batteries

[reef basin]

you can play in any way you want 🙂

[reef basin]

that depends on the route(s), hard to say in advance

[vale palm]

but is it around 100, or a 1000. I have never been at this stage so have no reference. What does a drone use to fly from the desert to the middle of the map?

[near frost]

WHY IS THE EARLY GAME SOOOO GOD DAMN LONG

like dude i have 4h just CRAFTING STUFF

[reef basin]

automate

[vale palm]

make machines that do it fo ryou

[near frost]

like whyyyyyyyyy and when i try to automate I RUN OUT OF POWER soi get coal power need 12 coal power gens TAKES FOREVER TO GET ALL THE STUFF I NEED TO BUILD THEM

like finally i got it done and now tryin to get steel

[reef basin]

automate the things for coal gens
if you don't yet have coal, run on biomass

[near frost]

i did run on biomass for a while but damn itsss sooo annyoing to get all the leaves and wood for it

[unkempt blade]

100 would probably cover you for quite a while unless you're using like only drones to move stuff

[reef basin]

process it to solid biomass for better energy values

[near frost]

i do

[mortal ginkgo]

kill bunch of monsters, turn them into proteins, then to biomass.

one animal corpse is worth of 100 biomass.

[near frost]

still annyoying like idk if i am doing something wrong or what

[near frost]

.... i wish i knew that

its done now i got coal

[reef basin]

early game is about showing you the power of automation 🙂

[near frost]

and damn it did

[white dawn]

The early game with biomass collection is intended to be a bit of a slog. Once you have coal power you can generally relax with it a bit more. :)

[gritty zealot]

hi, coal power is the real beginning.

[willow glen]

now you can let your factory generate stuff for you while you explore! Power slugs, Mercer sphere, hard drives, and somersloops are everywhere, go grab some.

[mortal ginkgo]

Hi Dough, I like the smell of burning biofuel so I can't mentally go for coal power, any advice is appreciated. Thanks.

• Leon

[willow glen]

It’s ok you can automate liquid biofuel after oil to run fuel generators on even more efficient biofumes!

[near frost]

that is excactly my plan

[mortal ginkgo]

That I can take as an advice but you are not Dough. Only Dough can advice since I asked for advice to Dough. Thanks for the try.

• Leon

[gritty zealot]

I'll be reporting that to Ficsit with your best interest in mind, can't compromise efficiency for pioneer preferences.

[near frost]

just wondring best way to get points for aswome shop stuff like i wanna start building

[vale palm]

okey thanks!

[mortal ginkgo]

Oh no. It seems Ficsit is like my irl workplace. I guess I am a Pioneer irl too. Sad news but thanks Dough. I see the truth now.

• Leon

[crisp edge]

#screenshots message @rustic hare oh will trains not clip through terrain?

[gritty zealot]

check wiki for what items burn for most points and automate whatever seems like the best option for you

[mortal ginkgo]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/codex/items/alien-dna-capsule

[near frost]

i saw on YT that 60 quarts into silca gives a lot but i cant find any purble rocks

[gritty zealot]

you can unlock the option to scan more ores by researching in the MAM

[near frost]

i want something auto

[near frost]

i did its just that the closest one to my hub is like 6k Meters away

[rustic hare]

they will clip through just fine yeah, they don't have a hitbox with the terrain

[gritty zealot]

start with dna capsules, and burn anything you dont need anymore by connecting the sink to a container

[near frost]

ok i will see

i have alot of wires an cables so i will burn these

[rare rivet]

I tend to run power to a Sam node and just sink that for early tickets

[near frost]

smart

[rare rivet]

DNA capsules are still really fast for the first few tickets

[near frost]

ya but i am lazy AF

[gritty zealot]

you'll end up killing a lot of things as you progress

[limpid cairn]

why does everything thats good need nitric acid in phase 4

like rocket fuel

[mortal ginkgo]

you are at phase 4, use drones to transfer them around

[limpid cairn]

i dont have rocket fuel

not now at least

since i have to unlock nitric acid first

[mortal ginkgo]

you dont need rocket fuel for drones, even basic fuel works

[limpid cairn]

isnt normal fuel worse than batteries ?

id just automate batteries atp

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean yeah, but you said you dont have rocket fuel so I thought you thought you needed rocket fuel

[reef basin]

Highly doubt that. 6km is almost the size of entire map

[glad drum]

Same - I just run around getting hard drives and sink a late game item like a super computer for my early tickets

[near frost]

that is SOOO SMART

LIKE I AM ALREADY LOOKING FOR HARD DRIVES