satisfactory

[split pewter]

you'd die and a clone would be made basically

[gusty bronze]

that would be sci-fi teleportation, quantum teleportation is literally sympathetic vibration

[green fiber]

funny enough our portals go around this by actually sending you through SAM thats been warped
the only quantum part here is the oscillators that are used to sync portals

[split pewter]

just send through the dd

why sam?

doesnt sam turn anything it touches into sam or whatever

[green fiber]

the portal is made with flucuators

same for the Depot

[split pewter]

so controlled sam..

[green fiber]

Fluctuators control how sam acts

[split pewter]

basically just controlled sam

[green fiber]

yes

[gusty bronze]

that oscillation in sci-fi to not-fi stance could be a valid reason that makes both sides of the teleporting a single space/time coordinate

[split pewter]

but manipulating sam seems impossible, and the fact you only need steel pipes, copper wire, iirc modular frames(?), and reanimated sam??

[shy mulch]

But wormholes are not the same as teleportation. They are plausible without being a fax if you can reliably interact with hyperdimensional space

[green fiber]

its just steel pipes and wires and magically that turns into an electromagnetic control housing

[split pewter]

not even ai limiters

[stone python]

we love folding space in here

[gusty bronze]

you also don't die from a wormhole, assumption here that there isn't some weird crpa in it trying to kill you

[split pewter]

not even circuit boards or high-speed connectors

[green fiber]

reminder that "Reanimated SAM", the ACTIVE form, is made from just SAM
the housing its in magically appears out of thin air

[gusty bronze]

honestly if they felt like it, they could use this as an excuse for a new instance of a map expansion

[split pewter]

interstellar as an example, its just a hole through space

think of it as a piece of folded paper, tear a hole through it, and unfold it

[green fiber]

so Fluctuators also use FICSIT magic to turn steel pipes and wires into an electromagnetically controlled housing

[hybrid nymph]

Ugh thank god I fixed the trains

[split pewter]

just like how you can turn uranium into plutonium!

[hybrid nymph]

that only took me 27 minutes...

[split pewter]

(and plutonium into ficsit things)

[green fiber]

thats a real thing funny enough

[split pewter]

the ficsit things?

ehh

[stone python]

this is real though

[green fiber]

uranium to plutonium i mean

[split pewter]

rookie numbers, spent 20 hours fixing trains

[split pewter]

i know

[gusty bronze]

stage 10 radiation rod, basically used to dispose of radioactive materials for a small energy conversion bonus

[split pewter]

if you dont need the power just sink non-fissile uranium if you can

[shy mulch]

Look at the channel tunnel from Dover to Calais. It's a straight line, a proper straight line, it's shorter than the route you'd take if you went from Dover to Calais following the surface of the earth, because the surface is a 2d plane but is curved in 3d space. Now take that same principle, realising that our universe as we see it is a 3d plane in 4d space, and build a tunnel through from one point to another in a straight line in 4d space

[stone python]

then why did you liust it when the discussion was about suspended belief lol

[split pewter]

or turn it into plutonium things

[split pewter]

-# plutonium into ficsit things

iirc you cant just do that

[green fiber]

ficsonium could be a literal micro black hole thats just radiating away. The plutonium only serves as mass fuel

[gusty bronze]

pretty sure this talk is how we get Event Horizon movie stuff

[stone python]

you directly replied to someone talking about ficsit magic with "just like you can turn uranium into plutonium!"

[split pewter]

and that was in reference to plutonium into ficsonium

[hybrid nymph]

oaky I definitly need and emergency backup battery for the trains

[shy mulch]

I love talking about black holes and the nature of time

[split pewter]

yep, place down 50 batteries, grab more materials, give up, play for 20 hours, go back to it, rinse and repeat until you have 500 and connect all the wires!

[gusty bronze]

priority power splitters, soon as you can start using them

[split pewter]

honestly this surprises me that this is related to satisfactory in some way

by going back far enough

[green fiber]

Ficsit produces the hearts of dead stars only to use them to collapse them into space-time breaking singularities.... to then turn it into glorified water heater fuel

[gusty bronze]

for the puppies and kittens

[split pewter]

efficient enough for me, now im gonna contribute more!

For the puppies and kittens!!

[green fiber]

and those same space-time breaking singularities are what fuel portals

[gusty bronze]

I still want a doggo farm type structure

[split pewter]

but how would the portal work

[split pewter]

you WHAT?

[green fiber]

the SAM just acts as a "lining" for the wormhole i imagine.

[shy mulch]

Everything is related to black holes if you dig deep enough

[split pewter]

yep

[hybrid nymph]

My trains are the most important thing, they deliever my compacted coal to oil so I can make turbofuel and power my fuel generators

[split pewter]

sun orbits a giant black hole in some theories (that might be true)

[hybrid nymph]

if they stop running my entire base shuts down

[gusty bronze]

somewhere to put all my doggos and any items they pick up automatically get put in to an output conveyor

[split pewter]

oh

[hybrid nymph]

The sun does robit a black hole lol

[split pewter]

might

[hybrid nymph]

Ever heard of Sagittarius A?

[split pewter]

doesnt mean im saying it doesnt

[stone python]

technically everything in the galaxy does

[split pewter]

yep

[gusty bronze]

dead serious, use power priortity, put everything that is NOT required to produce power on the next teir down

[split pewter]

naming literally anything can go to black holes

name quite literally anything

[gusty bronze]

the epstein list

[hybrid nymph]

Sagittarius A is the supermassive blqack hole at our galaxy's center

[gusty bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-hide-in-shrubs-hiding-in-bushes-disappear-into-hedges-embarrassed-gif-24183287

[mortal ginkgo]

this includes that there is someone who also orbit a black hole: UR MOM LOL GOT'EM

[shy mulch]

All this power priority and backup power storage stuff, meh, just make loads more power than you need, and you'll never need to worry about it

[split pewter]

people are talking about it on earth, earth orbits the sun, sun orbits a giant black hole

[hybrid nymph]

well I mean Peter Griffin is so fat that he has his own gravity, so could be true lol

[split pewter]

that someone is on the earth, the earth orbits the sun, blah blah blah

[mortal ginkgo]

You won this time. But I will be back. Stronger than ever.

[split pewter]

And remember to live, laugh, and consume!

[green fiber]

Singularities are used to create an actual wormhole
the location of where that wormhole connectes to is regulated by the Superposition fluctuators found in every portal. Just link 2 up with each other.
The actual "surface" we see though is made from SAM (as its visible even when the portal is not active and it looks somewhat liquidy and synthetic)

Once the portal forms, that SAM surface is deformed.

[gusty bronze]

technically there can be rouge systems and planets that don't orbit a singularity

[hybrid nymph]

Are you suggesting that the Asristoleian model of the solar system is correct? lol

[silk ocean]

Sagittarius A* is the black hole

[shy mulch]

Everyone was their own gravity. It's just so weak compared to the other forces that it's effectively unmeasurable

[mortal ginkgo]

I had 10 power storages that saved my ultra early game power. But yeah game gives little reason to use power storages if someone makes power first.

[split pewter]

wormhole as in something sorta like interstellars example?

(but for the same planet)

[hybrid nymph]

technically speaking if you took a mountain and palced it in space, you could put cars in orbit around it a few hundred meters away

[green fiber]

literal wormholes that connect 2 places in space-time

[split pewter]

so more or less

[shy mulch]

Interstellar is an incredible film

[split pewter]

it is

[hybrid nymph]

meh, I prefer The Martain

[split pewter]

mind-bending (might be because i watched it at like 4 am) but very interesting

i was a big fan

[gusty bronze]

I'm still on the boat that the teleporter in game is not a wormhole generator but a occilation tool to make 2 points the same point

[shy mulch]

I'm going to see hans zimmer in. November 😎

[green fiber]

K but we still use literal singularities as fuel for them.
What to they do?

[hybrid nymph]

I was bold enough to watch 3 hours of the LOTR cut "The LOTR but every time sam takes a step towards mordor, he says it'll be the farthest he's been from home"

[gusty bronze]

use the exotic radiation from the collapsing micro singularities to "X" make it happen

[green fiber]

so basically Aperture science quantum tunneling type of portaling

[split pewter]

thats actually an awesome idea

[gusty bronze]

a singularity as the means of transportation itself would only be one way do to how the math works out, for it to be two ways means it's not a singularity

[hybrid nymph]

I was also bold enough to complete Sethblind's 1000 parkour in minecraft

It took 8 hours!!

[gusty bronze]

you are left with 2 basic options

1. it's a wormhole, bridging two points in space/time
2. it's a intersection of two points in space/time

[naive orchid]

hey everyone why did i get silica after i grabbed some mycelia

[mortal ginkgo]

there can many singularities in this game, but there is only one duality: People that say "cast screws are a good recipe" and "screws useless because you need to remove them from your recipes"

[green fiber]

arent those technically the same
both are space warped to connect 2 places of space

[naive orchid]

it said i got mycelia and silica 🫠

[green fiber]

the bridge between 2 points is still just space but stretched

[gusty bronze]

not the same, wormholes still have a distance even if the distance is 0, they aren't the same spot

an intersection means it's literally the same spot and since that spot is connected to multiple other spots on either side then you effectively have no dimensional cross

[split pewter]

you get both typically

iirc

[naive orchid]

?

i never got silica before

and i had tons of mycelia

[green fiber]

sometimes shrooms contain silica

[hybrid nymph]

as much as I hate doing it, I still need coal generators as backup incase if I run out of fuel

[stone python]

why would you run out of fuel

[hybrid nymph]

dunno, but it's happened

just did

[stone python]

as in your fuel gens stopped?

or you just didnt have enough power production from fuel alone?

[hybrid nymph]

my trains got stuck and they stopped delievering compacted coal to the oil plant to make turbofuel

[shy mulch]

I have lots of spare power but I'll leave my coal gens running until I have no option but to remove them if I have no more coal to use in the world

[shy mulch]

Seems like you need to put some more time into planning your rail infrastructure

[hybrid nymph]

true that

indeed

[quasi frigate]

hey all, curious, how hard is it to find like 17 computers in the wild early on? lol

[silk ocean]

Could always use satisfactory map website xD

[split pewter]

how early?

[quasi frigate]

the satisfactory calculator site with the interactive map?

[shy mulch]

Tame a few doggos and be patient, they'll give you them soon enough

[quasi frigate]

coal stage

[quasi frigate]

oh really? ah ok thanks I'll keep that in mind

[split pewter]

not that hard

[quasi frigate]

I didn't see that option to find those on the map there, so didn't know

[split pewter]

you could give you some alt recipes like crystal computers

[silk ocean]

Depends how you want to play the game, e.g. proper exploration, versus using a map

[split pewter]

map is good, proper exploration is fun

[silk ocean]

In the Collectables tab I think

[split pewter]

efficiency : map

[quasi frigate]

was wanting to try to see if I could find somehow computers early, to unlock the dimensional depot upload thing, never touched dimensional upload thing yet, and I just unlocked it, so was curious about computers haha

[quasi frigate]

most things I explore and it is fun, but, I was simply wanting to find just enough computers real quick to test this out haha

[split pewter]

dimensional depot is gonna be your biggest friend

especially with excess resources

[shy mulch]

It's definitely possible, but can be slow if you don't have the stuff to build them automated

[quasi frigate]

am I dreaming? collectables tab? like on the satisfactory calculator? I dont see that?

[shy mulch]

You need to upload your save file to it

[silk ocean]

For speed you can just add them to the map Resource Nodes -> Collectables tab at the bottom

[quasi frigate]

yeah I am watching a playthrough, and someone was using it in a video I saw, I just unlocked it and was like WOW I want the one I can upload from inventory to so it doesn't overload my inventory too much lol

[shy mulch]

You get a lot more options if you upload your save, versus just viewing a generic map

[split pewter]

ehh, your best off just not doing that and hooking up a storage container into a dd

then just dump all your stuff you dont need and are using for building in there

more space, same amount of resources

[quasi frigate]

ah like carry stuff to make a depot thing, and have it drop it in, the things I want? for now?

thats not a bad solution for my early on haha

[split pewter]

main issue is once you hook up alot of things to the dd you dont need the inventory one

[split pewter]

no, just build it at your base

once you go back dump all your building stuff in there

keep the stuff you dont need to build with

[hybrid nymph]

well at least there's one good thing, biofuel burners won't generate excess power

at least they're efficient

[split pewter]

yep

lbf burners on the other hand

[quasi frigate]

ah ok, I was just thinking it would be super useful while searching and exploring, and finding stuff, and inventory gets full, cause keeping extra stuff, in case some hard drive unlocks require certain things, and I was exploring plus building hypertubes which are fun, so, I was like hmm, if Icould upload extra stuff I find that might be useful, lol

[split pewter]

for now yeah

[quasi frigate]

its a huge map and I am having fun exploring and finding sites and other things, but inventory gets overlyf ull haha

[split pewter]

but inventory uploader isnt really worth it if you set up a dd at base

unless you have very low inventory space, i wouldnt get it

i still havent touched it to this day

[quasi frigate]

well what do you do when inventory is overly full? just try to carry less? I never know what types of things I might need whene xploring and finding hard drives, and I like to carry things like concrete and iron and so on to make platforms when I need to get around to explore

ah ok, well I can try to just use it, without the inventory one for now, and see how it works at least, haven't tried it yet, looks super useful though

[split pewter]

dimensional depot

[quasi frigate]

so far quite enjoying trying out hypertubes bringing me aruond the few areas I explored

[split pewter]

it is useful until you have plenty of materials

[split pewter]

have you tried out hypertube cannons?

[quasi frigate]

not yet, I dont know how safe it'd be at my point, dont have jetpacks or anything yet lol

[split pewter]

unlock parachutes for earlygame ig

next best thing

(and they dont need fuel)

[hybrid nymph]

apparently my system doesn't work if I don't awesome sink my polymer resign

which is so dumb

[quasi frigate]

ah ok, and I dont know how you do them, you just, aim it upwards and shoot yourself up in the sky and parachute around?

[split pewter]

use buffers and an overflow sink

buffers are useful if you are gonna sink things

[hybrid nymph]

alright now to get a better souce of sulfur

[split pewter]

mk3 miner on a pure sulfur node

[hybrid nymph]

not there yet

[split pewter]

aw

[hybrid nymph]

I just got to tier 7

[split pewter]

ill have to wait until you start having storage containers full of supercomputers then 😔

#screenshots message

[hybrid nymph]

Oh I know, I did on my first save

[split pewter]

ok great

[hybrid nymph]

I'm 81 hours into this save

[split pewter]

ah

good numbers

but its not enouhg

need more hours

[hybrid nymph]

oh I know

only 2 things I wish they would add: farming, and terraforming

[split pewter]

mods, and its already terraformed

[hybrid nymph]

Oh I see

[split pewter]

they'd need to add pollution or start getting closer to planet crafter

[hybrid nymph]

true

[limpid cairn]

You usually shoot yourself into a direction at a 45°+ degree angle

[mortal tundra]

did the trains ever sound it's horn when passing another train in autopilot? I seem to remember a video where the trains would honk every time they passed each other but now im my playthrough they don't.

[split pewter]

maybe a mod?

[hybrid nymph]

Ahh now to finish the oil plant 🤗

[split pewter]

ooh your doing oil now

[split pewter]

nvm

im late

[mortal tundra]

perhaps

[split pewter]

you have the mod manager?

[mortal tundra]

i don't play with mods but i have the mod manager

[split pewter]

ah

digital storage is neat but it ruins logistics alot

[quasi frigate]

some areas are so dangerous in my early exploration lol

other than finding food in the wild, are there ways to get and craft things like bandages for a better reneable healing? or just go around finding berries and so on?

[spark sky]

Hm. You know what would be nice? An undo button for when you accidentally delete something.

Especially if it was something that took several steps to place in the first place.

[fluid sapphire]

maybe not helpful right now, but any time you are deleting specific items with a lot of other item types around, its probably best to use dismantle filter

[violet wave]

#screenshots message
@blissful fable I'd recommend removing the walls until you get things sorted out, so you can easily expand or shrink depending on how things play out, then add them back once you're complete

[spark sky]

Well, I was thinking more of when you are trying different configurations of stuff.

Another thing I would like to see is being able to move something, rather than having to delete and replace.

Like you can select things to delet, being able to select things and then move them, nudge them, would be nice.

[fluid sapphire]

at this point thats just not gonna happen, im sure they have considered it, but have a very good reason they havent done it

[umbral fog]

is there any way to fill in a half width triangle piece at the top of a wall where the roof joins?

[blissful fable]

true i just dont think im going to use it all because i dont know how or what to properly configure it

[fluid sapphire]

but it would be nice for sure. making compact lifts is so many steps to do every time you want to move one a single meter xd

[quasi frigate]

can we set up or grow berries/things in a base? or find better sources for healing somehow I imagine? curious

[fluid sapphire]

no farming

[hybrid nymph]

sweet I have enough oil to setup 8 more fuel generators 🤗

[quasi frigate]

ah ok, so gotta keep going out farming plants you find?

[fluid sapphire]

yes, berries and nuts re-grow after some time

bacon agaric does not

[spark sky]

Just pick them up as you are doing other things. You can get more than you need if you just keep picking them up.

[hybrid nymph]

that's 5000 more MW

[quasi frigate]

oh bacon does not? ok good to know haha

[fluid sapphire]

no, but i wouldnt worry too much about, its a giant world with lots of mushrooms

[spark sky]

BTW, you can stop creatures from spawning at resource nodes by putting a Mk 1 miner on it. It doesn't need power, just needs to be there.

OTOH, you might want the resources you get from killing them.

[terse flower]

Hi

[quasi frigate]

oh ok thanks for the tips

[spark sky]

No problem. BTW, have you set up the Awesome Sink, yet?

[neon cloak]

is 1000 quartz enough for researching?

[fluid sapphire]

very easily much more than enough i would think

[neon cloak]

i think i overdid with quartz but damn it's expensive to get Explorer

[fluid sapphire]

maybe if you are trying to handcraft the materials

[hybrid nymph]

hey I already got 152 ficsit tickets

[limpid cairn]

how much better is the diluted fuel recipe than just converting heavy fuel into normal fuel

[hybrid nymph]

I never bother with dilued fuel, turbofuel is just simply better

[limpid cairn]

how do we tell you....

[hybrid nymph]

what do you mean?

[limpid cairn]

diluted fuel alt basically uses heavy oil residue with water to produce fuel

[hybrid nymph]

I usually just produce petroleum coke with my fuel and sink it

[dense violet]

you can make turbo fuel out of diluted fuel...

[hybrid nymph]

I know that, but it's a hassle

I never bother with dilued fuel

[dense violet]

getting a ton more fuel from your oil is a hassle? you could just extract less oil then and do less work

[hybrid nymph]

oh yeah, huh

good point

[shy mulch]

Or just make more of everything. More is better

[dense violet]

it is a crazy amount of extra fuel per oil, and you can BP the packager, refinery , unpackager unit very quickly

with the empty containers already placed inside

[violet needle]

i swear i need just one more pipe

itll solve everything

[dense violet]

is this the same thing as cities saying 'one more lane and everything will be fixed' ?

[limpid cairn]

how much more fuel do you actually get

[dense violet]

depends on the chain

the base fuel is 3 oil to 2 fuel

HOR + diluted

3 oil to 4 HOR to 8 fuel

so with those 2 alts it's 4x the fuel

[violet needle]

yes

i swear its only 1 more pipe

[limpid cairn]

so basically, 1 HOR is 2 fuel?

[dense violet]

with some water added. But water is basically free

[limpid cairn]

im buidling next to an ocean

[violet needle]

how can i make a pipe overflow?

[dense violet]

depends what you're doing

[violet needle]

fuel blender into a train station with 3 buffers
in case of them filling up i want the blender to keep running because otherwise the rubber production wont be enough

[dense violet]

well you could create an upsidown u bend in the pipe and everything lower than the top of it's elevation will fill first

you'd probably want a pump after the junction going to the buffers so they don't flow back though

[winged walrus]

motorcycles in satisfactory would be fun

imagine sur-ron collab

[true mulch]

They've turned them down citing the explorer already serves that purpose

[winged walrus]

cars are boring

[hybrid nymph]

Okay guys, I'm heading to bed I'll be on tomorrow

[unkempt blade]

Yeah but what about carts? Pure excitement!

[hybrid nymph]

Thanks for all the help today ☺️

I learned about diluted fuel and I learned that you could double your power slugs

[limpid cairn]

heading to bed while its 2pm...

[hybrid nymph]

No no it's 5:00 a.m. for me

I've been up all night because I have a problem lol 😆

[unkempt blade]

You're practically a pro now! The only important things left are factory carts and trains

[hybrid nymph]

Just going to make some orange chicken and head bed

My stupid car broke down today

Now I get to see this week when I take it into the shop if my car is worth fixing or I should just get a new car

I really hope I don't have to replace the entire engine....

Because if I do, fuck it I'm just going to buy a plug-in hybrid if I have to

[dense violet]

diluted is also the main method to I think increase plastic/rubber production by 450% per unit of oil

at the cost of extra steps and water

[limpid cairn]

btw what are the downsides of overclocking generators? just more fuel for less power?

[fluid sapphire]

no downsides

[limpid cairn]

really?

[fluid sapphire]

just costs you power shards is all

[dense violet]

but all it does is save you space

[limpid cairn]

so basically if i overclock a normal fuel generator with fuel itll produce 500mw while using twice as much fuel?

[unkempt blade]

you get to see a slightly smaller field of gens so your factory is less impressive

[dense violet]

which is nice and if you have the extra shards why not?

[hybrid nymph]

True

Generators are absolutely worth overclocking, saves space and resourcees for setting up more

[limpid cairn]

half of my gens are invisible, theyre stuck in the wall

[quasi frigate]

awesome sink yes, not long ago, and throwing random things into it, like rotors, and the things I'm making currently, I"m early on

[honest geyser]

i feel like i dident have this problem last time i played but when placing a convayer it makes a big ass glowing white box around the entire thing thats massive and stops me from seeing for a good few seconds is it something i can fix?

[naive orchid]

@river oriole build drones, if you dont think its worth it/you dont have them, just connect it with conveyors -v-

[river oriole]

im phase 3 so kinda slow conveyors

[spark sky]

Well, I don't know if you've seen the fastest way to get the tickets. It involves converting those animal parts into alien protien and then alien DNA, but using Somersloops to double the production of each, so that you get 4x the alien DNA for each alien part.

[honest geyser]

#screenshots message

pic of my confusing white box

[spark sky]

The requirement per ticket when dumping random stuff in the Awesome Sink increases with each ticket. The increase with the Alien DNA is a set ammount per every 4 tickets.

[limpid cairn]

restart your game / pc maybe

[river oriole]

would a tier 4 conveyor work for that distance?

[naive orchid]

well

any conveyor would work

but depends if you want it fast or not

[fluid sapphire]

its fine, i have conveyors that are longer than that, functionally it doesnt matter how long a conveyor is, aesthetically, you can find ways to make it look nice, if you care about such

[naive orchid]

i am mk4 with conveyors so its worth it

[river oriole]

alright

thanks

[honest geyser]

SPAGETTI

[dense violet]

mods?

[spark sky]

Long conveyors don't necessarily mean spaghetti. There are ways to organize them so they don't look like the stuff that Let's Play it Out builds.

[fluid sapphire]

this snek is about 1km, it transports the sulfur and nitrogen from just east of the crater
#screenshots message

[honest geyser]

Let's Play it Out builds are the most efficent neat builds out their

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa restarted game and pc and still have huge white box when placing a convayer

[limpid cairn]

try switching your settings i guess or update your graphic card drives

[spark sky]

You may have saved the game with some memory issue.

[limpid cairn]

that could be true too

[honest geyser]

idk it does it even on a new game

[boreal musk]

that white box after placing happens when youre playing in low setting

[honest geyser]

hmm ok i will check them its whatever the game set as default have not really messed with it

[honest geyser]

any idea which settings it might be ?

haha nvm its the 1 setting that was not on ultra or cinematic shadows

did not expect it to be shadows

thx

[neon cloak]

my head hurts trying to think of the way to get 1000 smart platings, 1000 versatile frameworks and 100 automated wings

[dense violet]

make 5pm of each

[neon cloak]

ye but the iron required is still oof

ig it's time to pull out miner mk2

[dense violet]

how have you not done that? OC the miners to your belt limit

[umbral fog]

I have 1 water extractor hooked up to 2 packagers, but they keep stopping and starting even though they are full of water and empty canisters. They all stop at the same time.... what is happening 🙁

[neon cloak]

idk

i've just unlocked a lot of tier 4 stuff today

[river oriole]

did you check the power?

[hard ivy]

Why tf would you do that when you can just handfeed a single machine for each

If you sloop, it's cheap too

[umbral fog]

How would power cause it?

[shy mulch]

Just make 1 machine for each. Then think of the inputs as separate tasks

[wild plume]

I have no idea why, but both me and my friend are both terrified of the water around the edge of the map - does anyone else get that?

[river oriole]

i dont know just typing

[minor rock]

because of childhood trauma from jak 1

[neon cloak]

did you play OG Fortnite?

[wild plume]

Nope

[neon cloak]

then idk

[hard ivy]

Hoverpack?

[wild plume]

We both just hate how like, opaque it is

[umbral fog]

yeah but does that stop the packager from working does it?

[hard ivy]

Hoverpack switching its connection between 2 sides of a power switch causes all machines connected to the switch to go idle

[umbral fog]

oh.... is that a bug?

[hard ivy]

Either get rid of the switch or take off the hoverpack

[umbral fog]

right.... well thanks because I was so confused!

it would work until I moved which explains it

[neon cloak]

i want to delete everything i have again

primal FICSIT instinct

[shy mulch]

I've never noticed that 😵‍💫

[neon cloak]

i wonder what's the difference between power tower and power tower platform

[shy mulch]

One has a platform

[neon cloak]

oh ladder and platform

no additional costs

how jolly good 🍵

[shy mulch]

Yeah I can't see any reason to build a regular one

Unless you really don't like the look of the platform

[spark sky]

I just realized that we don't have any voice channels. I was thinking of streaming my creative mode blueprint development (currently reworking my design for a 9-burner biofuel power plant).

I don't stream games anywhere else.

[hybrid nymph]

Yeah I would love a voice channel 🤙

All right, well it's time to head to bed and I'm going to sleep for 6 hours and then wake up and do my homework, get my bike fixed, and then hop back on the game

[violet needle]

oo theres a big gate now

finall

[dense violet]

there's a stream channel

[spark sky]

But it's a text channel, don't you have to be in voice to stream?

[limpid cairn]

streaming isnt the same

i think they meant to stream on twitch or something

and send the link in there

[spark sky]

Yeah, I don't do that.

[dense violet]

the channel is to post stream links >.>

[spark sky]

I don't have enough memory to be doing that as well as running a game, Steam and Discord.

But, with just the game, Discord and Steam running, I can stream live in Discord, just can't record it.

I guess I'll just have to post screenshots.

[noble stratus]

#screenshots message ❤️ signs now

[honest geyser]

MORE GLOW

[hybrid nymph]

That's why I have 32 gigs of RAM lol 😆

I stream and make YouTube videos. And I realized since my editing program eats up 14 gigs of memory When I render, I realize that I needed more than 16 GB of RAM.

Also Best Buy was having a sale. I couldn't say no to 32 GB of DDR4 for $100

[fluid sapphire]

16 isnt even enough these days to comfortably multitask, i have discord, the game, and a browser open and i am using 19gigs

[hybrid nymph]

I probably use about the same. I have about 50 tabs open in Opera GX

I like using a lot tabs

[fluid sapphire]

opera, eww

[hybrid nymph]

So my opera GX is always using about 1.3 Gigs

What? What's wrong with Opera GX?

Opera GX is the best browser. So much better than Chrome or edge

[limpid cairn]

pretty sure its spyware

[hybrid nymph]

It isn't though

I've been using it for a year and I love it 😁

[limpid cairn]

same

it uses a bit much ram tho

[hybrid nymph]

I'm never going back to Chrome or Microsoft Edge

[fluid sapphire]

its just got a lot of pointless garbage crammed into it, and for what its supposed to be, this gaming-optimized browser, its just funny how resource inefficient and bloated it is

[limpid cairn]

i have to use edge at work because company doesnt allow anything else 😭

[fluid sapphire]

the only reason i ever open chrome is for dev tools

[hybrid nymph]

All right, fair enough I got to go to sleep

Goodnight 😴

[hard ivy]

Meanwhile, I'm still on chrome because it's the only browser that has all the features I want

[lost wagon]

every browser has tab management, even chrome, it suspends unused tabs to save ram

[wild kindle]

are there any mods that allow me to copy an area and paste it somewhere else?

[lost wagon]

that's not an opera exclusive thing

[lost wagon]

Factory Skyline or the new Quick Blueprint mod, although Quick Blueprint doesn't work with belts, pipes, wires, lifts and things or the sort

[wild kindle]

alr thanks

[fluid sapphire]

ya'll. i found it. i found the problem, you will not believe it when i tell you. i found the machines that are causing fluctuations in my power grid, you will literally never guess what common phenomena is causing this

[shy mulch]

Did you have a bunch of geothermals you'd forgotten about?

[fluid sapphire]

i do not use geothermal at all because if its unstable nature eheheheh

its actually an unsaturated manifold

one out of my 25 aluminum ingot blocks is not saturated yet, somehow

[lost wagon]

geothermal just needs power storage with it tbh

[fluid sapphire]

i mean, i just dont like what it does do a power graph

so i avoid it like the plague

i need every factory i have to run completely flat. aside from 29.9MW increments of fluctuations, which means just sinks going idle

[limpid cairn]

wait y’all’s power graph is stable and in a straight line?

[fluid sapphire]

i can now say with almost 100% certainty i have crafted a factory that is 100% efficient that makes 4500 aluminum ingots yeehaw

[lost wagon]

I don't even care for the graphics, my method of power management is "it didn't pop yet"

[fluid sapphire]

all my subgrids (factories) are

global grid fluctuates, because trains

[willow glen]

well any grid that includes particle accelerators must be fluctuating if it’s working, but besides that I don’t think having a flat line is worth the effort. Overbuild power, produce as much as you can with the ore you have, and go mine more

[shy mulch]

I love it, free power

[fluid sapphire]

well, anything I can make flat, i will

[shy mulch]

You'd hate my power graph 😂

[spark sky]

Well, unfortunately I have an older "gaming laptop" that you have to remove the whole bottom of the case in order to upgrade anything, not to mention a car that needs about $700 worth of parts to get it back to "safe to drive" and some hospital bills that they really, really want me to pay off (immediately - but they're going to have to settle for payments). So, upgrading the computer is kind of on the far back burner, for now.

[shy mulch]

American problems 😎

[spark sky]

And, no one else in the world has problems?

[shy mulch]

Not hospital bills 😝

[spark sky]

Well, I wouldn't have had the hospital bills if I could have gotten the insurance I applied for, multiple times, but that's a whole other story.

[limpid cairn]

How are trains influencing the power generated?

[spark sky]

Publicly paid health care can have it's negatives, too.

[shy mulch]

Sorry, nothing personal and I apologise if you're offended. Laughing at Americans is a bit of a hobby of mine

[lost wagon]

I think they mean power usage

[fluid sapphire]

not generated, used

[spark sky]

I take it that you are from Deutschland?

[shy mulch]

No, Scotland

[spark sky]

Hm, interesting. I'm of Scottish descent, though our relative went to New York when the Scotts were moving from Ireland to Scotland.

Sorry for the spelling.

[shy mulch]

If you ever visit Scotland, please don't tell people here that you're Scottish. They won't like it

[river oriole]

Hey guys could you help me? #screenshots

[spark sky]

Which screenshot?

[river oriole]

i cant decide

[river oriole]

the pillars

[spark sky]

You linked the channel, not the post.

[shy mulch]

I voted for 1. I'm not a fan of the inverted bases

[limpid cairn]

#screenshots message

[shy mulch]

Pretty easy to guess which post he's talking about, the one he posted 🤷

[river oriole]

Thanks

[spark sky]

@limpid cairn Well, I guess the look depends on what you're trying for. The one on the right would look better, to me, if the collumn were a lot taller. The collumn looks very fat for it's height. For the distance, I would go with just the pillar, no base.

[limpid cairn]

@river oriole

[spark sky]

Do you have the Painted Beam and Beam Support? That might look better for that short of a distance.

[river oriole]

i do but i feel like the beams are to thin for that

[spark sky]

Sorry, got you mixed up with the other guy. I think, looking at that setup, if the floor were thicker, I would go with the heavier collumn, with the floor that thin, to me that looks like overkill. Also, you can put more of the smaller ones and have it still look like it has good support (even though it will float in the air just fine). Another thing you could do with the smaller ones is make horizontal ones between the tops of them, making it look like you have beams supporting the floor.

Then you could still walk under them.

[river oriole]

Alright thanks

[spark sky]

No problem. In the end, it really comes down to what looks good (or reasonable) to you. Experiment and see what you like best.

[topaz shale]

Thank goodness for satisfactory calculator map editor. I made a decent amount of track but I ended up hating how it looks. Didn't want to spend ages getting something to look good with it so destruction it is.

[keen oriole]

I get to phase 5 and my games slow everytime. am I just gonna start again? wipe everything and continue ? or just AGM into phase 5 with a clear board and bring my blueprints. idk.

better decide soon before I lose momentum, I'm already starting to forget how some of my spaghetti works in this world.

but a fresh start is always so disorienting.

[shy mulch]

If you're not enjoying it just do something else. What is slowing you down?

[keen oriole]

i would enjoy finishing phase 5 but not 17fps. I'll have to start fresh in a phase 5 game. I'm just thinking thru it and looking for any kinda suggestions. I think one helpful suggestion I've seen here is to build buildings, instead of floating open platforms, since it probably takes less GPU to render a wall than it does to render a moving factory?

there's kind of an art to spreading out the factory just so and then running logistics for a kind of factory that doesn't slow down a low end pc lol

I could think of it as environmental regulations 😂

[shy mulch]

All I can think of is to turn down all the graphics settings

[minor rock]

you could use a massive bp mod, place really expensive bps and spread everything out and see if it helps

are your conveyor updates as slow as possible ?

[keen oriole]

no that's a good idea I need to just revisit settings and see what I can squeeze out there ty

[minor rock]

idk what your system is but id bet u are running out of cpu cycles

[proud bough]

Yes and if your more a function over form you can just make plain boxes around everything

[keen oriole]

I might try 720 p , and/or scaling

[minor rock]

you can also use SML cheat menu to not render the world, vs your factories

[keen oriole]

ohh, maybe if I just turn off a lot of sinks it will help then

[minor rock]

i think if you hide factory it will stil eat cpu cycles

[keen oriole]

I see yeah

[proud bough]

Depends on what's the issue

If it's rendering all the moving parts it will

[keen oriole]

my fps is low when I look at the factory. if I look away it immediately improves

[minor rock]

yeah but it helps narrow it down vs looking at hwinfo64 lol

[keen oriole]

it's probably both

[proud bough]

If it processing what the factory is doing no

[radiant zodiac]

hey everyone im quite new to this game. i would love for someone to teach me the game and to have someone to play this game with

[hard forum]

Anyone else have issues with the game crashing during build or delete mode? I notice the game stutters and slows down then, especially around big structures, when looking from one object to the next.

It's happened so often I've started sending crash notes that can be sung to the theme song of The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.

[proud bough]

Nah if it's when you look at it it's rendering all the moving parts

That's the problem

[minor rock]

you can turn off building animations in the same menu (for game slow guy not for deconstruction guy)

worth trying

[proud bough]

If it were both you'd have low frames everywhere and extremely low frames when staring at it

[hard forum]

I'll give it a shot, thanks!

[coarse willow]

you should be able to rotate train tracks so they go upside donw and stuff

[proud bough]

No that wasn't for your porblem

[minor rock]

xD i meant someone else . never had stuttering hey

[proud bough]

That was for gel's problem

[hard forum]

Oh, whoops. Meh, I'll try it anyways.

Worst case scenario it works for some reason.

[frosty coyote]

Does anyone have any expierence with slooping bauxite refinery and alumina solution refinery so that you have almost enough water in a closed loop system for everything?

[proud bough]

Those are always fun fun fun

[shy mulch]

Seems a bit of a waste of sloops

[proud bough]

You don't need to sloop to make a self sustaining alu factory

[frosty coyote]

Can you point me towards a guide? im so tired of running back and forth to flush water systems.

[nimble delta]

im not english-ing very well right now, want some confirmation but:
It is transported in pipes like a liquid but as it is a gas, it lacks head lift requirements.

That means to put simply i dont need to worry about it going upwards right?

[proud bough]

I got my alu factory from ImKibitz

[proud bough]

Yes

You don't need to worry about pumps

Gases always give max pressure and flowrate

[nimble delta]

cool then i get to just worry about if my fluid teleporter mod can teleport gas but haha

ty tho!

[proud bough]

It should

[minor rock]

gases are fluids so it should be fine

[proud bough]

Exactly

[nimble delta]

Yush lets hoep so

[spark sky]

Is it okay to say that some of my ancestors were Scottish?

(From your comment, I'm assuming that, if you weren't born there, they don't consider you're Scottish.)

[keen oriole]

imo u should tell every Scot u meet?

[shy mulch]

Generally Scots in Scotland don't really like it

[spark sky]

So, I'm already disowned by any relatives I might have there, before I even get to find them.

See if I visit Scotland.

[crisp barn]

is vulkan better than DX12?

[spark sky]

That probably depends on whether you are running Windows or Linux.

[crisp barn]

Windows

[shy mulch]

If you're actually looking for living relatives, then all good. But when Americans come here and open every conversation with "my great great grandaddy was half Scottish half Irish" we just see it as mega cringe and will ignore you 😛

[willow glen]

Not unless you’re having display issues with DX12. It won’t increase frame rate, it will likely lower it

[crisp barn]

Ah, because in some games vulkan can really improve fps

like rdr2

[willow glen]

Vulkan absolutely trash’s my FPS in this game lol, it’s optimized for DX12 as is my card (and most cards for sale today, not sure which actually perform better on Vulkan, figured that was for Linux mostly since directx is Microsoft)

[spark sky]

Ah. Well, not planning on dropping any names because, though some royalty is in there, not sure how they're viewed over there, and probably was only through that "right of first night" practice. On another note, how are those who are from outside Scotland that are trying to help restore the Bell Clan viewed there?

[naive scroll]

it depends on your GPU, honestly, not your OS. mostly your GPU. In this game, you can follow the rule. Vulkan for AMD gpu and Nvidia for DX12.

[violet needle]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaa i fucked up

[naive scroll]

And linux only supports Vulkan so it would not run better in a Linux this game

[violet needle]

dumbass me thought fuel goes over to aluminium

no silly it goes to the main plant

[naive scroll]

u should test stuff before going big

[spark sky]

Well, light a big torch over by the aluminum and burn it off.

[willow glen]

fuel… hmm, well, the HOR can be useful, but not after it’s turned into fuel lol. That must be a far pipeline too, there’s no oil nearby bauxite

[violet needle]

the only thing thats messed up now cos of it is i need to squeze in 1 more platform for the train

thank god i left space over by oil for it

[naive scroll]

god came clutch on this

[violet needle]

but by the main plant is gonna be tough

[willow glen]

Maybe you were thinking of the Fused Modular Frame alt that uses fuel? I generally export aluminum ingots, but importing fuel isn’t a bad option

[violet needle]

yeah

i made it for that

but now i realized i wont be making them at the alu plant

but rather the main building

so i need to put it on the other train line

[spark sky]

Oh, I know what would be nice: A piece of catwalk, walkway and/or foundation with a slightly rectangular hole in the edge for a ladder (so that the resulting hole after putting the ladder through it would be square).

[wary perch]

What else would be nice would be the ability to change the liquid in my coffee cup maybe via a vending machine

[spark sky]

Not to mention being able to actually put your coffee cup under the coffee maker in your HUB so that you're not wasting the coffee.

(Or put it in the microwave when it gets cold.)

Speaking of the HUB living space, I thought I saw in a video that you could drop stuff in the toilet and flush it to get rid of stuff. Now it seems that you just open the interface to the toilet, put something in the single inventory space in there, and it just disappears (before you get to flush it). I rather liked watching it washed away with the water.

[azure ermine]

yeah it's just a trash can like in your inventory

imagine if the icon swirled around and around getting smaller 🙂

[violet needle]

question

i have 125 fuel production

[shy fog]

you're about to math

[violet needle]

why does the station have +20m3 flow with occasional spike to 250-350

[azure ermine]

mathing hurts

[shy fog]

are you using T1 pipes?

[azure ermine]

because pipes are sloshy messes

[violet needle]

t2

will it work without a buffer

or do i need one

(i have a mod that doesnt disable train station inputs on load/unload)

[shy fog]

as soon as you throw mods into the mix it destroys any basis of answer

[azure ermine]

saw a video this morning suggesting putting unpowered pumps to essentially make pipes one-way so the levels aren't always swish-swashing around

[shy fog]

I saw a video earlier today also... fully explains fluid dynamics... one moment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuSlYLebSAE this guy

[azure ermine]

I got my pipes fully filled and the power graph looked so smooth...then an hour later it was sloshing again.

[violet needle]

its just is the long-time average input actually the 125 or less

[azure ermine]

I think they just do that

[uncut trail]

im in phase 4 and should i keep the factories of items needed to complete phase 3?

like versatile framework, motor and the ball looking thing

[violet needle]

if you plan to consistently automate elevator parts sure

[azure ermine]

I think it all gets used again.

[shy fog]

a vast majority of T+ requires T-

[violet needle]

if you do temporary™ assemblers for them

[uncut trail]

ok thx

[shy fog]

there's a list on the wiki under the space elevator

[spark sky]

This is what I mean by ladder holes:

#screenshots message

[azure ermine]

I thought Smart Plating were just for feeding the space elevator then saw that they are used to make end game components much later

[violet needle]

@shy fog ? well the blender is working 100% so theoretically it should right

[shy fog]

yes and no...

theoretically if everything is by the math, you also have to remember pipes have distances

as per video

watch it, seriously, you'll see him explain the whole thing

[uncut trail]

i js noticed alien power augmenter has intake hole and what am i supposed to feed it

[azure ermine]

my oil refineries should be producing 400 polymer resin per minute and instead it's like 328ish. I can't explain why ample supply isn't always burned 100% of the time

[thorn dagger]

is coal generators considered mid game or early.

[shy fog]

input output fun and shenanigans

[silk ocean]

Early I would say. Fuel is mid game. Nuclear is late game

[thorn dagger]

tf is those ;;-;

[azure ermine]

I wish pipes were reliable like belts. If your machines eat 120 items and you're sending 120 items the machines NEVER just start and stop and the belts don't speed up or switch direction like the tides

[thorn dagger]

okay.

[shy fog]

coal is initial automation

[silk ocean]

Different types of powergen? xD

[spark sky]

Where does Geothermal fit in?

[thorn dagger]

that i never heard about:D ok.

[silk ocean]

Mid-game I guess for Geothermal?

[shy fog]

geothermal is rather insane

[azure ermine]

geothermal is whenever you unlock it and plunk it on a geyser

[shy fog]

you can technically the best kind get it before you do much

[spark sky]

I'm rather early game, but I've got geothermal, just setting up coal.

[shy fog]

I HAVE managed to go straight into alien

[azure ermine]

it is the only no-mess power and that's balanced against its output rising and falling

[lost wagon]

at what tier you start to shift to making 1 factory per resource rather than 1 factory making multiple different things out of the same node?

[silk ocean]

I always thought solar would be nice

[azure ermine]

solar would be good.

[spark sky]

Well, that would also need the storage, as it doesn't work at night.

[shy fog]

alien is hilariously easy to get to without anything

[silk ocean]

Yea like Factorio

[spark sky]

Thankfully, nights are short in Satisfactory.

[shy fog]

I'll go prove it... but it will take a little time

[azure ermine]

I think FICSIT policy would say any space covered by a solar panel could be better covered with machines

[lost wagon]

solar would be early game and after that only useful to set up miners/extractors with its own power network to avoid everything blowing up if the fuse pops

[frail sleet]

they are, but only under certain conditions (build styles)

[lost wagon]

ficsit is all about exploiting the planet, green energy isn't exploiting

[azure ermine]

geothermal is fairly green 🙂

[shy fog]

thus why I don't bother with any energy types 🙂

[spark sky]

Grey energy?

[azure ermine]

the geysers are geysing whether you make use of them or not

[silk ocean]

Nuclear is arguably 100% green if you process the waste

[shy fog]

I'ma gonna go do the silly!

[frail sleet]

checks out, uranium is green

[silk ocean]

xD

[mortal ginkgo]

Wait a minu-

[spark sky]

And, don't feed the nuclear waste to the doggos, then make them jump off a cliff.

[azure ermine]

I did the silly last night and this morning, bringing the 6 pure bauxite nodes in on belts. Screenshot in the screenshot place

[silk ocean]

When you drop your first coal plant doesn't ADA say something like they pollute a lot

[azure ermine]

ADA would say this approvingly

[honest geyser]

i feel like im being stupid got truch stations to unload but pressing f to load when the station is set to load does nothing

[uncut trail]

ada can get it

jking dont banish me

[azure ermine]

the only sign that ADA cares about anything other than your usefulness as a fleshy work unit is if you kill the land whales and she says something like "was that strictly necessary"

[lost wagon]

if you're recording a route, don't need to press, the game will automatically do it when the auto pilot is going

[spark sky]

ADA runs on the magic smoke from the coal power plants.

[mortal ginkgo]

She says "you are late compared to other pioneers about setting up Coal Plants"

[azure ermine]

I used animal protein for biomass because animals respawn and trees and bushes don't

[lost wagon]

"Interesting, most pioneers already had Coal power set up by this point because they understood their responsibility to humanity.
Adjusting pioneer attitude metrics. "

[honest geyser]

still confused why i have coal in it but cant get it to load

[wild plume]

is there any real issue with building underwater outside of the actual "water" part of the map?

[shy fog]

*continues to go straight to alien power without building a space elevator

[azure ermine]

hey, I hand crafted my space elevator at the workbench 🙂

[true horizon]

This game puts me in a weird place I just got it cause a lot of people recommended it but I’m playing solo since I’m in Japan and all my friends are stateside. I want to play when I’m not playing but then when I play a little bit I get overwhelmed and want to stop. Maybe I’m just not doing things right cause I’m done with phase 2 except for the final bit of resources.

[azure ermine]

I think it's mostly a solo game. You can play with people on the same map but I get the impression most don't

but the magic of a single player game is, you can pick it up and put it down, take a week off, because you aren't keeping up with anyone

[true horizon]

Yeah I think I’m just not used to the silence and wish I had like that second hand cause I feel like there’s way too much to do.

[mortal ginkgo]

I sometimes go for a farming spree in a circle. it is much more profitable indeed.

[azure ermine]

my other main game is an MMO I've played for about 8 years so I get plenty of multi player crowding 🙂

single players are a relief sometimes

I can stand and do nothing and no one cares

I've been on a quest to destroy all gas pillars and gas plants but....there are a LOT

[fiery lotus]

I haven't blow up any because I'd feel bad

[azure ermine]

but they are actively trying to poison you 🙂

[fiery lotus]

Aren't they the nests for the giant alien spiders

Nests are defended, naturally

[azure ermine]

ADA doesn't approve of damage to FICSIT Equipment

also,

you are FICSIT Equipment.

[shy fog]

*plays catch with explosives

[violet needle]

time to nuke the swamp

[fiery lotus]

I wear gas masks there is damage

[azure ermine]

it's unfortunate that nobelisks are kind of indiscriminate, it blows up stuff on the ground and in the swamp, that's a lot of mycelia

so I have all this bauxite ore, now I have to read up in the wiki about slurry and stuff

[shy fog]

yes, and no... you can wing it if you want

[fiery lotus]

that's what i do

just put up my oil production about to start tier 7 & finally have that hoverpack

[shy fog]

do it wrong, do it fast, but working is all the best, efficiency is for after you know

[fiery lotus]

then i'll probably spend 50 hours detailing my factories now that it's less painful

[azure ermine]

I gathered all the disk drives but I have 43 it won't read yet because I don't qualify for the alt recipes yet

I take this as a hint that I spend too much time on discord

[fiery lotus]

Dang I don't think I've even explored a fifth of the map

I just built everything in the rocky desert

[azure ermine]

well all but one and apparently there are 3 or 4 more than you need

[fiery lotus]

In fact I'm intentionally restricting myself to the rocky desert so I don't scope creep myself

[azure ermine]

one requires some tier 9 supersupposition something gizmo

[fiery lotus]

The only thing allowed out is trains and the facilities to pump things into them

[azure ermine]

some kind of quarky suppository

[fiery lotus]

It was a pleasant surprise to get inventory upgrades from the HDDs

[azure ermine]

yeah there's two for 6 slots each I think

[heavy pine]

They should add more of those to the final tier, after you've found all the other alt recipes, so you have something to do with the extra hard drives.

[azure ermine]

weirdly I got a lot of dimensional depots now so I don't need to carry 10 stacks of concrete and 10 of iron plates with me anymore

so all the extra inventory slots...just for random junk

[heavy pine]

Oh, when you get to placing large foundation blueprints, you'll want that extra inventory space.

I burn through the 2500 Concrete in the depot in no time.

[fiery lotus]

Just be like me, play slowly & the depot fills while you're thinking about things

[azure ermine]

yeah 4 dimensional depots of concrete and 3 for iron plates and my paving does have to pause to recover after a couple minutes

25 foundations plopped down every couple seconds will do that

[violet needle]

something aint adding up

[wraith lotus]

okay so I'm just generally struggling with adapting to this game from factorio and I need help lmao, I'm used to having a bus and belt balancers but whats the satisfactory equivalent? I feel like I'm missing something 🥺

[violet needle]

ooooooo i see

im making silica with bauxite

yea fock that

[sullen gull]

Manifolds. And balancers can be setup as well. Though, imo, only strictly nessessary with something like nuclear.

[fiery lotus]

We overflow into sinks instead of carefully balancing

[ivory condor]

If you think of this game as being a equivalent factorio you will suffer

[uncut trail]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-saul-goodman-saul-goodman-meme-walter-white-mike-ehrmantraut-gif-25494141

[wraith lotus]

I think thats why I'm struggling lmfao

[fiery lotus]

I kinda wanna see your builds now

[heavy pine]

In a way, Factorio uses manifolds too. Send a belt of stuff down one side of a bunch of buildings with inserters pulling off the belt.

[uncut trail]

factorio is harder right

[wraith lotus]

I'll happily show you lmao

[fiery lotus]

I only have a couple hundred hours in factorio so it didn't really influence me much

[ivory condor]

Yes

[azure ermine]

sloppy alumina alternate recipe makes it without the extra silica for less and faster

[violet needle]

yeah i know

[wraith lotus]

I'm used to taking a sturated belt, splitting it off, and then balancing, on this it seems one smelter does one line and you put as many machines as you can on that one line, then the same for the next

[violet needle]

im just trying to wrangle the math

cos i need silica for

circuit boards and hsc

[hard ivy]

using default alumina to make silica is generally a terrible idea lol

[ivory condor]

Gleba is pure pain and suffering

[uncut trail]

wtf is gleba

[ivory condor]

Planet in factorio space age

[azure ermine]

I have a quartz mine making crystals and silica

[violet needle]

okay this can work

i just need more quartz and limestone

[wraith lotus]

Can't even post an image to show what I'm on about lmao

oh nvm

[sullen gull]

#screenshots

[wraith lotus]

done

[violet needle]

ah fuck

1340 waste water

[spark sky]

Is there a way to change the size of the text in a sign? I'm trying to make an EXIT sign with a small square sign, but the text is tiny.

[wraith lotus]

if you look in screenshots you'll see my attempt at building something decent

[spark sky]

Hm, the water is waste high.

[violet needle]

and im using barely 135 for copper for it

i could use it for wet concrete

since i need it anyway

well either way i first need to pacify the swamp so

[fiery lotus]

Well that's definitely some interesting load balancing

[wraith lotus]

yeah....

[violet needle]

daaaaamn #screenshots

[wraith lotus]

I'm now realising I'm merging them just to split them again

[violet needle]

also shit i forgot the power AGAIN

AAAA

[fiery lotus]

Well at least you're treating screws as you should

Producing them right before the machine that needs them

I still have to merge my screw stack into the main export building

[wraith lotus]

Only because I don't know how to have a bus in this game lmfao

[warped marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/science-shake-bill-n-and-tyne-eyeglasses-gif-16807430

[fiery lotus]

You don't really want a bus

[warped marsh]

Throwing my first 50 rocket enginges into the grinder in order to buy parts to build 250 more

[scenic mirage]

can i put a truck in a personnel elevator? and automate it

[wraith lotus]

I know, but I don't know how else to transport resources to where they need to go without one? other than pipe the amount of raw resources I need to the place I want them, then make everything on site

[fiery lotus]

You have infinite verticality there's no need for a bus, you just plop down systems wherever and pipe to them with whatever is most fitting (conveyor, truck, train, drone) (pipe)

[heavy pine]

And infinite resources; you never have to worry about an iron ore deposit running out.

[fiery lotus]

In the beginning you just try to keep your supply lines as short and simple as possible

And systems not tangled into each other

Tractors are nice if you have good terrain for it, don't have to run long conveyors to the coal to start steel

[violet needle]

fuck them green cats

weird-ass goobers

pacifying the local fauna with nuclear weapons

[fiery lotus]

A fellow archnaphobia enjoyer

[violet needle]

fuck i died

yeah im nuking the whole place now

[fiery lotus]

Also prioritize transporting anything that is low density obviously

[violet needle]

breaking news: local girl eradicates fauna from a swamp

why oh why cant you pick up nobelisks

[fiery lotus]

It is taking far too long to get my trains just how I want them

There's also no biters to consume isolated infrastructure without direct access to ammo from a bus

[hearty atlas]

hello

[azure ermine]

presumably they are too unstable to pick them back up when dropped

[wraith lotus]

@warped marsh replying to your screenshot here "yeah like a manifold? I'm just struggling to saturate the lines with iron, guess I just need to pipe more iron into the base until I get higher tier miners and overclocking"

[ivory condor]

You feeling alright?

[warped marsh]

yeah, factorio is about buses this game is about manifolds

[violet needle]

i mean you do not approach live ordnance irl soo

[warped marsh]

thats about hte most fundamental explanation of the games i can give lol

[ivory condor]

I thought factorio was about drones

[warped marsh]

if youre CRINGE

[wraith lotus]

Drones and busses 😛

[violet needle]

i miss the old basher sound

[warped marsh]

BELT4LYFE

[wraith lotus]

imagine being a belt purist

[ivory condor]

Dont be a drone hater

[warped marsh]

who doesnt love jpegs of cats

vectors of cats

[past robin]

I'm trying to build water extractors, but there are the tall gray guys in the water so I can't build them, and they are like completely immune to damage

[mortal ginkgo]

they arent immune but got too big health pools

keep on wackin'

[past robin]

i've been hitting him for 10 minutes

[mortal ginkgo]

shouldnt be THAT much

[wraith lotus]

hit him for 10 more 😛

[fiery lotus]

Have you considered a ficsit approved fitness program?

[past robin]

HE DIED

[ivory condor]

Its ok even i dont know how many people have blocked me to

You lose track of it after a while

[feral geyser]

Several people blocked me cuz I jokingly called them "cowards" for not doing their own math in this game.

I'm not fragile like that, i won't block you for so little.

[ivory condor]

You would be suprised, alot of random people just block me, even for reasons I have no idea about

I often dont even know until much later and still have no idea why it happens

[feral geyser]

Can't ask if he's blocked 😭

[sullen gull]

Interesting. Just verified that pumps don't like to work too close to their max head lift. Have 6 lines of 600 that I had mk1 pumps on. They were "working" in the sense that they were capping at 18m, but the setup of 20 pure cat refineries and 8 of Wet concrete were starving a bit. Switched the pumps to mk2 and now running like a champ. So, the takeaway is it's good to have a "buffer" for head lift. 🙂

[violet needle]

oh you can put water extractors in the swamp

[sullen gull]

I could take a guess 😏 You tend to go on strange random 'tangents' sometimes.

[merry wraith]

I was wondering... WHAT IF... Teleports can be used to teleport resources from one area of the map to another? while maintaining identical functionality? xD

[ivory condor]

Oh that person blocked me to and I still have no idea why

Welcome to discord, who knows what is going on

[violet needle]

what why?

:<

[naive scroll]

i think they are trying to flirt with you

[ivory condor]

Well they did say one thing about it, but honestly it made no sense

[mortal ginkgo]

Some of you folk really talk weird and random that can make you get blocked.

[ivory condor]

Which is why I haven't gave it any thought, as it didn't make much sense

[mortal ginkgo]

Protip: Don't act like me so you never gonna be blocked

[sullen gull]

Did you hear about the floogle binder special hack potato? 😏

[mortal ginkgo]

autoblocked

[violet needle]

now where did i put my power

[mortal ginkgo]

I took it. You need to play the game without power now. Sorry.

[violet needle]

😔

[mortal ginkgo]

Like this is why I have him blocked. He is like, extremely random.

Why did he say "overwhelming" there?

What was his intentions? What is his purpose?

he really sounds like a bot in training

[violet needle]

now the factory wont grow

[feral geyser]

Ah I get it now

[mortal ginkgo]

Sorry, I gave it back. Here. Hands 8 Coal Plants

[scenic mirage]

can i have one truck going to two truck stations

[sullen gull]

I legitimately thought they were a bot for the longest time 🤣

[violet needle]

danke :>

[ivory condor]

Well guess that is my fate, im naturally random and will never stop mewing

Keep on mewing

[mortal ginkgo]

yeah, he says "random starcraft quote" that makes no sense and no context I am like bro, wat

[feral geyser]

Coal plants? Coal doesn't grow on plants. 😒

[vale grotto]

Absolutely

[sullen gull]

You could, but no real way to control what is loaded/unloaded unless the second one is only for fuel for example

[scenic mirage]

im just loading coal for aluminum

[violet needle]

meow nyaa mrrp

[vale grotto]

You can absolutely pickup or dropoff from multiple stops with the same truck

[mortal ginkgo]

[vale grotto]

Have a truck collect from several mines and dropoff at the factory

[scenic mirage]

bett thats what i love to hear 😎

[brazen kettle]

anyone wanna do a dedicated server 😔

[mortal ginkgo]

thats... not something you should randomly ask I think 😛

[brazen kettle]

im chatting, this is a chat 😎

[ivory condor]

So many mews

[mortal ginkgo]

ok, but your image in #satisfactory-memes is not a satisfactory meme too, how are you going to respond to that, huh?

[brazen kettle]

thats a doggo what are you on abt

[mortal ginkgo]

nope, wrong answer

[brazen kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-rage-bait-lol-lmao-gif-3554026694133497645

😔

[ivory condor]

Cats rule, dogs drool after all

[mortal ginkgo]

gif fail, kek. you are not in a good start buddy

[brazen kettle]

im gonna touch you

[sullen gull]

#screenshots message

[mortal ginkgo]

tons of landing area = proceeds to build on water
tons of lightinng options = 90% pure darkness inside

[feral geyser]

Reported for hate speech

[sullen gull]

Lol, I did say I need to work on the lighting lol. And, always better to bring the machines to water instead of the other way around 😏

[potent crane]

Just installed Satisfacory again, but I just can't seem to find my old save? I have older saves but not my primary one. What could have happened?

[sullen gull]

I thought I was one of the best people you know! 😭

I think I have only ever blocked one person. And afaik, only one has blocked me lol.

[violet needle]

thank god coke stacks to 500

now with one car i can have a trip time of 20 mins and still have enough throughput

[mortal ginkgo]

20 minute? Are you getting coke from another planet?!?!

[violet needle]

no thats just theoretical max time i could have

but i do have to get it from the north oil fields down to the swamp

yeah 750 aint that little

i need like 1900 alu ingots

and trains are way cooler

[sick dragon]

I like trains

[ivory condor]

Well Marv I at least have a idea why they blocked me, which is fine but I feel sorry he has such hate for people

[violet needle]

choooo

[sick dragon]

And trucks. And drones

[ivory condor]

Oh well I guess some people just have alot of issues

[mortal ginkgo]

I got this really silly idea of providing water via drones only...

I will regret it so much it ain't even funny but alas

[sick dragon]

Rule of cool strikes again

[sullen gull]

I still want to so a small-ish factory run off of one sushi belt 😏

[violet needle]

what

[sick dragon]

I actually process my caterium at the node to be shipped by drone. Downside is it isn't a pure recipes. But it hardly matters

[violet needle]

that sounds like you hate yourself

[sick dragon]

Im about to create a blueprint to do the same with sam

[mortal ginkgo]

But but I can explain! 😭

[violet needle]

oh wait theres sam here in the swamp

i can make ficsonium

o.O

[ivory condor]

Ewww

[violet needle]

no ficsite*

[ivory condor]

Enjoy the spiders

[sick dragon]

I too enjoy singing

Im terrible but nvm that

motivational training music ensues

Not sure what killing spiders has to do with my singing though

Now that I think about it I was gonna purpose the swamp to make 300 batteries a minute. But I make 600 rocket fuel a minute for my drones and trucks

I could probably just repurpose it as an aluminum plant

[sullen gull]

I have a factory doing 3600 quick wire setup primarily for drone delivery: #screenshots message

[sick dragon]

Huh

[sick dragon]

Ya but im not using pure recipes

Make a plan. Stick to it. Commit to going larger and larger. That's what I did

And is why I have a 100gw turbo fuel power plant using refined power lol

Im actually in the middle of planning an iron and copper ingot facility. It'll use all the dune desert copper and iron and will supply my world with ingots

I only have mk5 belts but will be designing it with mk6 in mind

[violet needle]

35 ficsite trigons per min to storage

good enough?

[sick dragon]

Why not more

Always the question

[violet needle]

not enough coke

[sick dragon]

Go get more

[violet needle]

no buh id have to rework my oil

[sick dragon]

You used all your oil nodes in the world?

Transport it by train. Screw what people say about downsides. I did it with water for my aluminum for my rcus

Ironically I did the math and it seems I get more bang for my buck with solid steel ingots than coke steel

Sure I dont need coal for coke steel. But I get less ingots out of it ratio wise

Assuming same amount of iron

Well then he should agree with me and move on lol

[violet needle]

thats what im doing

but my setup is 765 outbound coke

[sick dragon]

I really do wish that the fluid tank on a freight car was bigger though

[violet needle]

oh hey and now im getting some nice numbers too

[clever merlin]

I wonder if a smart mirger would ever be possible

maybe that wat i need

[violet needle]

what for even

[sick dragon]

I mean is that not what a priority merger is

[blissful fable]

i realised I'm better at making power grids than i am at making factories (i could be wrong as i only have coal generators)

[violet needle]

we got straight belts now where my homies gay belts at

[clever merlin]

the programer splitter didnt help wat i doing

i wanted to have 2 inputs and beale to pecty outputs

[azure ermine]

I've abandoned unpowered pipe pumps to tackle my pipe sloshing, to using valves that also are supposed to stop backflow, and can limit each consuming maching to only as much fluid as it can use. No more stockpiles of a stack of fuel while other generator idle for lack of it. I hope

[clever merlin]

your missing the point

i have 2 diffent items i want to put in i want to spec witch direction each those items go

not get a sucshi belt

it only allows for one input

[green fiber]

Why would you need one with 2 inputs then

Just split each one seperately?

[clever merlin]

that not it i trying to pull form the other direction

how to explain this

[sick dragon]

thats exactly the purpose of a smart splitter...

[clever merlin]

ok i have belts going in one on each side right

[green fiber]

Draw image, post in #screenshots

[clever merlin]

ok

[nimble delta]

i decided to make a lot of plastic. Then I was like hehe couldnt it be fun if you used all the heavy residue, dilude it and make into rocket fuel... I am um now realizing how many fuel generators it takes to process 1200 rocket fuel

[sick dragon]

now imagine ionized fuel

[clever merlin]

it ok i explain it in a sec

[nimble delta]

hmmmmmmm I choose not to LOL

[sick dragon]

you could also package some of it for fuel sources for drones and trucks

[clever merlin]

none was taken

[violet needle]

oc all to 250 otherwise dont bother lol

[clever merlin]

i totlay get my expantion sucked lol

we good 🙂

[nimble delta]

Why not bother if not for oc?

[sick dragon]

because overclocking means you reduce the amount of gens you need

[violet needle]

cuts it down by 2.5x
and unless you really want to place down 500 gens

[sick dragon]

means less work

but you better go raid the world of power slugs unless you at the point you can produce them lol

[violet needle]

and power shards are dirt cheap anyways

[nimble delta]

So its the time / lag sink rather than effeciency. I have both blueprint zoop mod and zoopable buildings which helps ALOT in this 😄

[sick dragon]

space as well

[violet needle]

you still have to pipe them

[scenic mirage]

im cooked im working on aluminum rn and i didnt realize that theres a water byproduct and idek wtf to do w it 😂

[sick dragon]

you can recycle it back in(relatively easy even though it looks complicated) or b. send it elsewhere to process like making wet concrete and sinking it

whats funny is my first plant in this save i created an accidental vip junction and its using the water in the TOP pipes where the refineries are first before filling with the pipes on the bottom where the extractors are being pumped in

[clever merlin]

#screenshots

hopefully that make it a bit more clear wat i trying to achive

[sullen gull]

Is a railing enough to keep in a lizard doggo? or do they need something ~4m high?

[violet needle]

how does auto-connect work buh

[feral geyser]

Put them close enough to show holograms, click, then move them apart.

[crisp edge]

it's pretty intuitive. try it out by making a belt blueprint

[feral geyser]

The pipes and belts and stuff have to line up

[violet needle]

no idea ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[unique zephyr]

Why do i have a ghost train station at 0,0 coordinates?

how

I started placing stations, have 3 total. The compass and map even named the ghost station two different things

Its exactly at 0,0

https://imgur.com/a/JwtRDXi

Its the one i mouse over

But there is no actual station there

I might just keep it as a souvenir

[violet needle]

bruv