satisfactory

[plush dawn]

ie taking up 2 possible recipes instead of one

[lethal ocean]

Wooo we love artifacting

[plush dawn]

so if neither is one you want right now, you have a greater chance of getting the one you do want next time

[dense violet]

and not making use of the recipe potential at all

[plush dawn]

compared to claiming

[plush dawn]

if you got a good recipe but no way to use it then just let it sit there, but if you do need the recipe RIGHT NOW then yeah go ahead and claim it

[dense violet]

all recipes are 'good'. They all have their uses. It's only failure of creativity or thought that makes them 'bad'

some are niche it's true though, but only a couple

[plush dawn]

dont claim unless you have a use for the recipe RIGHT NOW

[regal lantern]

Or get them all and use none because you want some jank in your setup

[shy mulch]

or do whatever you want because it's a sandbox game and it doesn't really matter

[plush dawn]

very true

[visual cosmos]

Huh you can print coupons even if the machine doesnt have power

The sink*

[covert sphinx]

yuh

[obsidian zodiac]

what a bargain

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> discord-based timestamps on the #announcements post would be helpful for those of us not living in the land of [political joke redacted]

[hard ivy]

<t:1755781740:f>
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[limpid cairn]

Why are nukes so disappointing in the game

[unkempt blade]

why are you so disappointed in nukes in this game?

[limpid cairn]

They don’t destroy half of the map iirc

also the explosion looks weird

I expected a big ass explosion that nearly crashed my game 🙏

[unkempt blade]

You want my powershell script that has a 1/6 chance of deleting your save directory when you open the game? That's sort of the same thing

[leaden turret]

me: thinking a single ficsit-branded nuka-nuke grenade will blow up a cracked rock cluster in one go
nuke:

[limpid cairn]

make it 1/3

It’s kinda useless tho no? Since you can recover the files anyways

[unkempt blade]

it empties the recycle bin so it's still a better nuke than nobelisks

[limpid cairn]

Can’t you still recover files without the recycle bin?

[manic kelp]

Unplayable... -> #screenshots message

[unkempt blade]

I don't know. Can you?

how much effort are you willing to put in?

[limpid cairn]

Well, everything is possible if you have the will for it

[limpid cairn]

A lot

But iirc if you delete something of your drive it just gets removed out of the register but is still in the drive

The only real way of actually cleaning the drive is brutally murdering it (break it in half) or formatting it again

[unkempt blade]

literally unplayable! worst delete ever!

[limpid cairn]

Btw how good are factory cars?

[unkempt blade]

drive one over a jump pad and then tell me what you think of them

your life will change forever

[regal lantern]

Up the danger levels and make it a dos script that'll wipe the hard drive!

[honest fern]

I summon all pioneers immediately, I need inspo for a factory building, please healp!

[regal lantern]

Take all the liquids you currently use and build setups to package and unpackage them

So your only pipes go to/from packagers and whatever immediate producer they use

I should commit and do that all the way rather than having refineries linked, would make my janky setup even better!

[silk ocean]

Sushi stations with smart splitters were a bad design choice xD

Even with Mk.6 belts xD

[lost wagon]

If transport a lot of stuff, yea

[hard ivy]

sushi is usually a bad idea in this game

[silk ocean]

I am learning this xD

[worldly rover]

gang the new updates since 2022 has messed up my world lmao

[silk ocean]

I started fresh in 1.1 xD

[merry mountain]

Okay so on announcements, Mikel says 9:00 a.m. EST, but the time displayed was 11:09 a.m. EST..

And what date was that again?

[hard ivy]

The CEST time is probably correct

[hard ivy]

Should be this if I'm not wrong

[merry mountain]

Thanks, maybe I'm old school, I don't know what's wrong with just typing out dates and times.

[hard ivy]

Oh wait they say 3pm but then display 5pm

So idk which one it is lmao

[merry mountain]

Right??

[gaunt tulip]

@obsidian zodiac - Saw your recent #announcements message. It would be nice if this was also posted on the Official Reddit. Thanks.

[scenic mirage]

did yall automate heavy modular frames on phase 3

[merry mountain]

@obsidian zodiac also your spoken times do not match the displayed times in the video.

[rigid mist]

time to place 54 manufacturers

[hard ivy]

I'd say 3pm is more likely because that's 15:00, and a common mistake when converting from the 24h clock to 12h is subtracting 10 instead of 12

But considering it's ign, they probably have their own announcement that's correct lol

[unkempt blade]

I prefer 15:00am

[obsidian zodiac]

we display different times because the show starts at 3PM CEST, but there is something in particular were looking forward to watching at 5:09PM CEST 😉

[cunning glade]

Okay so I'm missing something

[rigid mist]

wait wait wait what's happening

[cunning glade]

I thought mergers and etc went up and down now

Am I wrong

[mint mulch]

no

[unkempt blade]

it, it's happening!

[cunning glade]

Like can transport resources up or down through themselves

[mint mulch]

uhh

[acoustic heart]

Wait. What’s happening?

[unkempt blade]

the thing is!

[mint mulch]

you gotta put it directly on a conveyor lift

[acoustic heart]

Heck yeah, brother 😎

[mint mulch]

if thats what you meant

[obsidian zodiac]

god i love things that are happening

[unkempt blade]

or inside a factory cart and up a ramp!

[acoustic heart]

The best things are the things that are indeed happening

[mint mulch]

gotta utilize that single slot

[leaden turret]

predictions, either:

1. console gameplay / release date announcement expected.
2. next game
3. "we gonna announce on IGN whether Lizard Doggos have a butthole or cloaca so the international press coverage gets Marv and everyone else to stop asking"

[cunning glade]

Okay I see now

[silk ocean]

How is this game going to work with a controller xD I can barley manage it with a keyb and mouse XD

[cunning glade]

I misunderstood upon looking at the photo

[acoustic heart]

Can’t wait for 2 Satis 2 Factory

[leaden turret]

• satwosfactory
• satisfactwory

[fluid sapphire]

slower, i imagine, it already works with controller tho

[silk ocean]

I guess so, I am too old skool for controllers, I grew up with keyboard and mouse xD

[leaden turret]

@obsidian zodiac trap sprung #off-topic-media message

[acoustic heart]

Aren’t controllers technically old school as well?

[leaden turret]

"back in my day we used punch cards up hill both ways"

[rigid mist]

xD

[acoustic heart]

I think satisfactory 2 should have a fishing mini game

[silk ocean]

I guess so yea, been around a long time, From the computer labs in the 1990s/1980s, just gravitated towards keyboard and mouse, like the Wolfenstein/Unreal/Quake days xD

[visual cosmos]

missed the chance to make an antikythera joke

[acoustic heart]

I started playing video games on the ole N64

[visual cosmos]

[leaden turret]

I dislike this is considered a retro console

[hard ivy]

Amd golf

[rigid mist]

satisfactory 2 would have subway surfers playing when you enable a setting

[leaden turret]

one moment while I drop in to #off-topic-general to make people feel old

[wraith lotus]

how do I get away from wanting to build a main bus in this game 🙃

[visual cosmos]

build a main train

[acoustic heart]

Trains and drones

[leaden turret]

higher-volume public transport option ftw

[wraith lotus]

like I'm just starting out and I just cant get around main busses arent a thing

[acoustic heart]

I mean.. you can definitely make them.

[wraith lotus]

belt balancers aren't a thing in this though? from what I've seen at least, everythings just... modular

[fluid sapphire]

you can make balancers but they are rarely needed

[silk ocean]

Don't tell this to KYO xD

[wraith lotus]

lmao, guess I'm just struggling with the switch from factorio

[fluid sapphire]

kyo knows this full well

[leaden turret]

don't forget:

you can build up

[acoustic heart]

It’s interesting. My first factory game was actually satisfactory and I struggle with adjusting to Factorio lol

[ivory condor]

Factory carts are taking over the game, prepare

[late rampart]

This is exactly the same for me

[wraith lotus]

I find factorio easier 😂

[acoustic heart]

I’m almost done beating satisfactory though and plan to dive into Factorio again after.

[ivory condor]

You haven't tried doing gleba have you

[wraith lotus]

lmao, you're right, I haven't played the recent DLC

Haven't played in a while

[ivory condor]

Thought so because that isnt easier

[wraith lotus]

I've heard as much, I do aim to dive into it, at somepoint

[acoustic heart]

I also have Dyson sphere and shapez 2 in my backlog

[eternal delta]

Did yall do a secret horror update to the ambiance or the rocky desert makes the sounds sound like screams

[fluid sapphire]

as someone who has a friend who plays factorio, factorio looks much more complex

[ivory condor]

Yep, because one things you can have spoil time, which can turn things into spoilage, so if you dont get your production and consumption numbers right, suddenly all of your belts have become spoilage and what's this now all of your biochambers are out of nutrients and can't restart because your biochambers to make the nutrients ran out of nutrients to make the nutrients, this is all fine

[wraith lotus]

Dyson sphere is okay, I find the start a grind though

[wraith lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-gif-24177057

[ivory condor]

I sure do love gleba and spoilage as you can tell

[wraith lotus]

looks it but it isn't, main bus -> make thing -> put thing on bus

[mortal ginkgo]

Rocky Desert is indeed scary and dangerous 😳.

I suggest going for the Swamp area which is safer jfyi.

[fluid sapphire]

factorio has much more going on mechanically, satisfactory does not ask you to account for: finite resources, enemy management, spoilage etc etc

[acoustic heart]

The swamp is like the only biome I don’t have anything built in lol

[silk ocean]

Main bus in SatisF is more like a vertical buss? xD It doesn't really work xD

[acoustic heart]

I built a conveyor bus into the swamp to pull out some bauxite and that was enough for me

[visual cosmos]

you managed to build something in the titan valley thingy?

[wraith lotus]

I suppose so, everyone keeps telling me to build vertically and I'm just a little lost on how to get resources to where they need to be without a bus lmao but I just had a brain wave and I think I just figured it out?

[mortal ginkgo]

Its gimmick is looking scary while not being dangerous at all.

It is the opposite of pink forest.

Devs be devs.

[visual cosmos]

I hate that place
every mercer sphere or sloop has one or more nuclear hogs or spiders :(

[eternal delta]

Dawg i got 700hr on the game its jsut i normaly keep the ambiance off

[silk ocean]

The swamp was a nightmare xD

[fluid sapphire]

you are encoured to build close to nodes where you can

[visual cosmos]

honestly i dont go in the swamp that much but the few times i did it wasnt too bad

[mortal ginkgo]

its ok, go to swamp brother trust me

I got no reason to lie so you dont need to worry

[visual cosmos]

[acoustic heart]

I have an aluminum factory there next to the valley.

[visual cosmos]

the trees area a nightmare to build anything

I have my central storage next to it though

[regal lantern]

Bomb the trees

[visual cosmos]

giant ones dont break iirc

[acoustic heart]

Idk.. there’s so many gas pillars and other things trying to kill you. Plus it looks depressing. lol

[regal lantern]

Oh, bomb the small trees and build around the big ones then!

[visual cosmos]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1407367882215788595

[mortal ginkgo]

nah its fiiiiiiiine dont ve judgemental because of its outer looks.

[visual cosmos]

I bombed the trees

[acoustic heart]

Yeah, I pulled all the bauxite and stuff out of the pink Forrest. Didn’t feel like dealing with all the foliage

[regal lantern]

[visual cosmos]

gas pillars are annoying, things trying to kill you is mostly because the area is flat, so you see them easily
there's similar amounts in other locations lol

[ivory condor]

That was me doing gleba the first time, but in my case it became impossible because trying to do gleba without enough resources quickly became pure nightmare fuel, especially once the stompers showed up to destroy my farming, end up having to go back to gleba a few times just to get something up and running

[visual cosmos]

anyways back to playing i go

here's hoping game doesnt crash this time when i switch screens

[acoustic heart]

The gas pillars are annoying because they chunk away at your health so fast. Then you’re trying to get away but there’s just more gas pillars.

[visual cosmos]

get rocket fuel and jetpack and just fly up

[fluid sapphire]

i fucking love auto connect, i can super easily make long runs of 19 belts at the same time whoooowheeeeee

[regal lantern]

Rain bombs down on them

[visual cosmos]

while you're in the air rain down bombs yeah

damn cpu at 91 degrees

celcius

[fluid sapphire]

what cpu

[visual cosmos]

idr its a laptop

[silk ocean]

Thermal paste / better cooler? xD

[visual cosmos]

[fluid sapphire]

ah, seems normal for a laptop

[hard ivy]

91 is low for a laptop 💀

[visual cosmos]

it is yeah
well "normal" while havinga game open

if game isnt open i sit around 30-40

[visual cosmos]

it an expensive gaming laptop

[silk ocean]

Ergh laptop, little turbofan running at a zillion RPM xD

[visual cosmos]

was on discount

[visual cosmos]

5500 ish is the max rpm if i remember correctly

[silk ocean]

That's a lot of RPM xD

[visual cosmos]

its noisy at that point though, I just let it on auto, it gets stronger the hotter the gpu/cpu

3500 rpm for gpu atm

[mossy birch]

Any tip for uranium? From ore to plutonium fuel rod.

Alternative recipes allowed. Cause I unlocked ‘em all (where I am at.)

[hard ivy]

don't lmao

[silent aurora]

Oh easy

[mossy birch]

Well… same question as I asked before. Efficiency first. Neglect electricity.

[acoustic heart]

I really wanted to give nuclear a shot, but it just seemed like a lot to setup versus cranking out rocket fuel

[visual cosmos]

you dont have to tap too much into uranium unless you want to
if you do just remember to create the whole loop before turning it on

[silent aurora]

Imo

Use the recipe that uses the most waste/plutrod. And it becomes optional to sink or burn

[mossy birch]

I make all the way to create plutonium fuel rod in order to operate.

So I need help to yield the most.

[visual cosmos]

the base plutonium recipe yeah

alts are more efficient which isnt a good thing usually

[silk ocean]

Consider a PC? my fans basically don't turn, maybe at like min duty cycle xD

[hard ivy]

most what?

[visual cosmos]

i needed a good laptop for university/work, figured i would also tap into gaming for the hell of it
no regrets honestly

maybe eventually i'll get a pc but this works just fine (at least with current games)

for example when i first played satisfactory and other similarly intensive games all graphics are automatically set on ultra

and i can handle it just fine
I did lower them for satisfactory though lol

[silk ocean]

nvidia mobile GPU I guess? xD

[mossy birch]

Most uranium fuel rod possible.

So I think of an alternate recipe that will use less.

Uranium ore.

[hard ivy]

from the 2100 uranium available on the map or including resource conversion?

[silk ocean]

I think you can use the app to optimize settings? xD

[mossy birch]

Not including resource conversion. I’ll probably not use it.

[hard ivy]

50.4 uranium rods/min is the max then

[visual cosmos]

RTX 4060
laptop version obviously

[hard ivy]

unless you use sloops ig

[mossy birch]

It’s a waste anyways for aluminium.

[mossy birch]

No sloops. But what is the tree then?

Like the recipe that I use to make the most of the fuel rod.

[hard ivy]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=bv03HdIduxbfWGlQtbmM

[visual cosmos]

that is not a welcoming graph dam

[hard ivy]

recipes that don't involve uranium or uranium products are all up to you obviously

[visual cosmos]

though to be fair most of that i have automated already

not getting into uranium unless i really have to

i can x8 my current rocket fuel easily so no uranium for me

[hard ivy]

though do keep in mind that this produces 2520 waste/min

[visual cosmos]

i will do it when i get to phase 5 but that's to be seen later

[acoustic heart]

You think nuclear will get a buff at some point?

[mossy birch]

I will sink in AWESOME Sink then.

[hard ivy]

I hope it will but I doubt it

[hard ivy]

you can't sink waste

[mossy birch]

I know I can’t so that why I just… well…

[acoustic heart]

She did have it crossed out

[silk ocean]

Don't tell KYO that you love manifolds 😈

[visual cosmos]

technically you can "sink" it bellow the map somewhere

not actually using the sink though

[hard ivy]

but you only need to make 12.6 plut rods to sink all of it

[acoustic heart]

You can give it to doggos

They like nuclear waste

[visual cosmos]

i nuked a doggo accidently recently

felt bad :(

[silk ocean]

Apparently, as I discovered, you can flush it down the toilet xD

[hard ivy]

good luck doing that with 2520/min lmao

[visual cosmos]

yeahhh

[acoustic heart]

I was told FICSIT has a zero waste policy

[visual cosmos]

dont see that going well lol

[silk ocean]

Yea that's not gonna work XD

[visual cosmos]

which is why they dont let you sink nuclear waste

[hard ivy]

but you can sink plutonium 🤷‍♂️

[acoustic heart]

I guess they cant control what happens in the bathroom

[silent aurora]

Not waste technically. Its a product.

[mossy birch]

But I can relieve my diarrhoea in FICSIT toilet. (Me don’t have it.)

[silk ocean]

I'm basically doing this, reprocessing and sink xD

[topaz shale]

Manifolds are king

[mossy birch]

I guess I have to make 2650 nukes I guess…

[visual cosmos]

I made 100 to nuke clear a forest and grab the mercer spheres in titan valley thing

23 left:/

[mossy birch]

Me being a psychopath me collected all power slugs, mercer sphere, and somersloop.

[visual cosmos]

All power slugs is crazy dedication

I'm only like 100h in on my current save

[mossy birch]

And all hard drive.

[visual cosmos]

That one is a given tbf

[mossy birch]

Me 180-200.

[visual cosmos]

Kinda need em

[bright echo]

is there a biomass generator bug? My friend seems to have a bug . He is literally just connecting a biomass gen to a water extractor. Water extractor uses 20mw biomass generates 30. The fuze breaks!?

It reads max consumption is 20 and it still spikes and breaks. There is no cable to something else. It's literally just biomass gen and extractor. Reloading the save did not work.

[regal lantern]

I ended up getting all the slugs so I could get enough overclocking to set up a power core factory that'd output more than I'd ever need

[silk ocean]

You're walking a dangerous path xD 😉

[regal lantern]

It was way more than I needed but I wanted completion

[visual cosmos]

Right so quick question

[inner oak]

the one on the hub is 20mz and the one u build is 30mz

[visual cosmos]

Is either of you using hoverpack

[bright echo]

he is building the 30 mw one.

hoverpack it is thank you

[hard ivy]

tf is a mz?

[visual cosmos]

Lol

Had the same issue recently

[mossy birch]

Lemme try it one day.

[visual cosmos]

That thing will automatically grab 100mw from the closest outlet

[topaz shale]

I've been on this path since I started 😉 Doesn't help that I'm using a daisy chain smart machine mod that only lets in 3 crafts worth of material instead of a full stack in each machine. Makes manifolds up to speed much faster.

[visual cosmos]

Manifolds later on can be painful with the weird values

[inner oak]

i made typo but it could be mega frequency, i meant mega watt

https://tenor.com/view/negawatt-nega-watt-gif-925117326718678952

[topaz shale]

Oh for sure. I'm change my building style if pure manifolds no longer make sense. Like the manifold hybrid video I watched recently though it isn't space efficient.

[visual cosmos]

I'm starting to remember why I stopped playing on controller
Stick drift :/

[mossy birch]

I always made manifold in my factories. Including fuel generator.

[visual cosmos]

Just watch moo on yt

Load balancing to be specific* everywhere

[mossy birch]

But that S takes so long to initiate, especially large ones.

[visual cosmos]

Load balancing *

Ble

Its fun to watch

[topaz shale]

I think a few of my early buildings are load balanced but everything past motors isn't

[mossy birch]

I guess I have to demolish my mega factory.

And build a better version, bigger than before.

But I need to build from a water source.

[silk ocean]

Can we get KYO to dish out some dislike for all the manifold lovers xD In a kind way xD

[topaz shale]

You'll never take me alive!

[visual cosmos]

Time to waste coupons on rocket fuel

[naive scroll]

hey guys just to know did they get rid of pipeline floorhole?

im looking at a video that has it and i cant find it anywhere in game

well not in t3 t4

[regal lantern]

Is it something you get from the ticket shop?

[visual cosmos]

Need to unlock them in awesome shop

[naive scroll]

ah

[topaz shale]

Because of the nature of ticket collecting, what is the max that one could reasonably collect?

[mossy birch]

I don’t know if one coupon per minute is possible. (> 3000.)

[naive scroll]

i didnt have awesome shop yet

[visual cosmos]

I mean the scaling is scary

Its definitely possible early on but the more you make coupons the harder it gets

[mossy birch]

I spend it on building parts, which I cannot do.

[mossy birch]

There’s a limit. Around 300,000,000 max per ticket I think.

[silk ocean]

Go on an adventure... secret tip.. nukes and weapons? xD

[visual cosmos]

Technically the cap to coupons cost is 2 147 483 648 / coupon

Exponential growth limited by signed 32 bits integers ftw

[mossy birch]

After 2998th coupon you need 249,501,250 points for each.

According to wiki.gg.

[shy mulch]

There is no max

[shy mulch]

That's the max the display shows, but you still get all the points you sink even if it's faster than that. It's only a display issue

[coarse epoch]

I want to marry Officer Doug Eiffel

[hard ivy]

the max is 2 coupons per minute sustained

[visual cosmos]

[naive scroll]

what are DNA points?

[hard ivy]

sink points from dna capsules

[silk ocean]

From adventures? xD

[regal lantern]

You can make DNA capsules from the remains of dead animals, mycellia

[naive scroll]

ahhhh ok

[regal lantern]

I think mycellia

[silk ocean]

Killing spiders xD

[naive scroll]

i have a lot of those

[regal lantern]

Throw them in the sink for some tickets!

[shy mulch]

That would be a massive achievement. When my current megafactory is complete I'll be getting about 1 coupon every 3 minutes, give or take, and that is really stretching my patience ahah

[hard ivy]

make sure you use sloop your protein and dna!

[naive scroll]

what do you guys recommend i buy with coupons at the very first?

[hard ivy]

ladder, floor holes

[mossy birch]

According to wiki.gg, the max points you can get is: 511,613,703 per minute. (I think)

[topaz shale]

I still need to set up a single chest system that will take my slugs and animal parts and convert them accordingly.

[regal lantern]

Who needs a ladder when you can just stack containers

[naive scroll]

oh, conveyor wall, door wall?

[silk ocean]

cosmetic items? XD

[shy mulch]

Nothing in the shop is technically necessary to finish the game, so just browse and get what seems useful or interesting to you

[hard ivy]

make sure you don't buy clean pipes if you don't plan on using them. they mess up your pipe quick swap

[mossy birch]

But only when you set all machines except miners, power generators, or like those to 1%.

[topaz shale]

Ladders are useful for traversal before the jetpack for exploration.

[shy mulch]

I love a clean pipe 😂

[naive scroll]

ok yeah just the floor pipehole thing

[silk ocean]

I love clean pipes XD

[glass seal]

best alt recipe for heav modular frame?>

[acoustic heart]

Aren’t the pipe holes like buggy?

[hard ivy]

I don't because they mess up my quick swap

[hard ivy]

encased and it's not even close

[shy mulch]

My first playthrough I didn't use ladders at all. I just put foundation ramps everywhere

[hard ivy]

not anymore. not sure they ever were tbh

[silk ocean]

quick swap? xD

[topaz shale]

Now all that I would love to have is a pipe version of the throughput monitor.

[topaz shale]

I will say, I swear I had pipe issues when using them. They might be cursed and not bugged

[hard ivy]

Tapping E on a mk1 pipe switches it to a mk2. then mk2 to junction and then back to mk1. clean pipes extend this loop to 5 items so I have to hold E and choose from the wheel

[acoustic heart]

I just remember seeing a lot of people complain about the pipe holes

And just never used them myself.

[silk ocean]

Ah gotcha, that is fascinating

[topaz shale]

I would rather have the pipe phase through the ground, anyways.

[hard ivy]

works with a lot of other buildables. holding or tapping E when building them switches to similar things

cleans up the hotbars a lot

[topaz shale]

Works with blueprints if they are in the same subcategory

[dense cave]

i was thinking

[silk ocean]

Yea I often switch between like Constructor / Assembler / Manufacturer xD

[dense cave]

does satisfactory have any fanarts or bases on wplace

[acoustic heart]

We don’t do that around here

[dense cave]

):

[silk ocean]

deviantart? xD

[dense cave]

no i mean wplace

r/place but world map

[dense cave]

but hell naw not that

[silk ocean]

I'm not sure what this means xD

[dense cave]

errr

https://wplace.live/

[silk ocean]

Not sure xD

[dense cave]

😔

[topaz shale]

I really should have automated the nobelisks

[naive scroll]

i think a rule of thumb is automate everything xD

[topaz shale]

And I keep finding things I haven't automated 😔

[naive scroll]

live and learn

[shy mulch]

I've used pipe floor holes loads and never had any issue

[topaz shale]

I think I'm just cursed lol. I might use them elsewhere but not for power, at least

I'm always amazed at the power of the HOR +DF alt recipe chain for fuel.

[winter island]

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[topaz shale]

Silly bot

[hard ivy]

someone clicked "start a ticket"

[cedar vault]

hello

[topaz shale]

Definitely wasn't me

[hard ivy]

you can go to the channel you were added to and see who did

[topaz shale]

Hello, Person

[cedar vault]

hru?

[hard ivy]

idk if you can close it or if you'll have to ask whoever opened it

[icy temple]

any diagram/flowchart making software/website that you guys recommend?

[topaz shale]

Too late for that. The channel is gone

[hard ivy]

satisfactory tools

[icy temple]

ty

[hard ivy]

then they probably closed it

[topaz shale]

Could also check out satisfactory modeler. Really nice to use and it lets you have a good understanding of your chosen recipe chain. It is free on steam.

[vapid whale]

one is a positive point, the other is a negative point

[leaden turret]

chill factory game has no base defense

[vapid whale]

thats the problem tho, its TOO chill

[hard ivy]

go install SF+ then

[leaden turret]

if you fall asleep while playing satisfactory, that's a sign you should stop playing satisfactory

[vapid whale]

ye theres a guy called evilgenius who started a project a month ago

he has a whole blog about it

finally this game might be on par with factorio 🙏

[placid stirrup]

falls asleep on spacebar with rocketfuel jetpack equipped

[glad drum]

When I imagine "Satisfactory with Base Defense" I imagine it as a completely other game/mode - the combat of Satisfactory is so second-thought I just turn off hostile mobs every time now.

[true mulch]

The combat feels really unbalanced

You can cheese it easily or get wrecked easily

Neither is fun

[leaden turret]

1.2 patch notes

• beans can now wield rifles

[sick dragon]

tfw you working on infrastructure and then think "oooh thats a good idea i wanna do because itll look cool!" but then realize you would have to redo a ton of the logistics you already did and have to make a decision :/

[sick dragon]

i kinda disagree that satisfactory needs combat mechanics. its not at its core what its about

[vapid whale]

yeah currently the combat is made for babies

[vapid whale]

oh it can be optional, it does not have to be forced into the game by default. factorio makes it optional, sf can do it too

[fluid sapphire]

can i somehow reverse belt direction while building?

[trim vine]

rebuild the belt

[sick dragon]

not in the way you can lifts

currently trying to decide if i should scrap the beltwork ive done in the desert to grab iron nodes and do trucks to the station or not

[fluid sapphire]

nothing to rebuild, it would just be convenient to build in the opposite direction in my situation

[trim vine]

lay down an anchor belt, then go from there

[trim vine]

^

[fluid sapphire]

suppose so

it is.. acceptable

ceiling supports somehow get funky with their alignment if i try to make a blueprint, they end up like ~0.25m too high or too low

[ivory condor]

Im imagining this game now with its version of gleba, and how many players might rage quit

[hard ivy]

I played Factorio SA with enemies in passive, with spoilage 10x slower, and max size resource patches

I hate anything that makes me rush

I still haven't even started a Factorio run on default (or harder) settings, nevermind finished one

[vapid whale]

yeah this fanbase is very casualized on that aspect, but thats the game's fault not necessarly them

[vapid whale]

thats the beauty tho, u can tweak the enemies to make it so u dont have to rush, u can turn off time evolution, slow evolution down completely, make enemies attack you less, reduce the overall amount of enemy bases on the map etc. etc..

if u dont like the feeling of being rushed, i would suggest u start a default run but turn off time evolution, ur all set

[atomic notch]

Yall been tryna get base defense in this game for a while lol

Never gonna happen

[vapid whale]

no the devs already said its gg so we're just talking about it now

nothing wrong in comparing the two biggest factory games on the market

[silk rose]

i wish there was teraforming

[hard ivy]

the map would be much worse if there was

[silk rose]

wdym much worse, for balance?

dig to resource nodes?

[hard ivy]

i feel like the map wouldn't be able to look nearly as nice if it wasn't static

[silk rose]

i just want to destroy that rock and not rebuild whole factory

[vapid whale]

i think theres a mod for that

[silk rose]

'just play minecraft create'

[vapid whale]

its made by aquila if i remember

[silk rose]

oh i wanna check

[vapid whale]

lemme find it

[hollow kernel]

When is train signals getting fixed it's getting embarrassing

[silk rose]

i guess they are fine

[hollow kernel]

Some of signals work some dont at other places looping bug is still there

[acoustic heart]

Encoders and particle accelerators are so GYAT darn PHAT

[vapid whale]

@silk rose https://ficsit.app/mod/ResourceDestroyer thats the best u could find i guess

[atomic notch]

I did play a bit on the star rupture playtest maybe well get some good base defense stuff

[silk rose]

thank you

[vapid whale]

yeah that one is on my wishlist, hopefully itll be good

[digital holly]

In which channel should ideas or suggestions be posted?

[icy temple]

what do you guys do in the background when you play the game? ( watching movies, listening music/podcast etc.)

or do you do anything at all

[steady glade]

there's a website for that

[vale quail]

I bet I know what the announcement is the console release date what else would it be

[silk rose]

boombox

[steady glade]

yt

[atomic notch]

Smoke

[glad drum]

I've been watching Sonic Prime cause it's a show you don't need to pay too much attention to and haha Sonic funny chili dogs

plus "gotta go fast" and sliding around on conveyoyrs is a good match

[past nest]

Quick question but how do I freely rotate bluprints? I have a blueprint for a suport beam that I want to follow the curved train track above but i can only rotate it in 90 degree interals. How do i rotate it by like 15 or so degrees?

[limpid cairn]

I perma watch My hero academia while playing

[atomic notch]

Gotta use some kinda scaffolding then just build on that

The barriers are my go to

[scenic mirage]

#screenshots message
might actually finish phase 3 tomorrow

[atomic notch]

Yooo im buildin in the same biome

[scenic mirage]

W I hope your factory looks better than mine lol

[atomic notch]

Its bigger but id say looks are abt the same

I got a bunch of pics in here somewhere

[versed plinth]

man

who coulda thunk that 24000 copper ingots / minute is a very large undertaking

[fluid sapphire]

what, no way

[atomic notch]

#screenshots message

[versed plinth]

crazy stuff i know

[digital holly]

One of my ideas would be to make floating platform collapse, so the player is actually forced to build in the worrld

[atomic notch]

Ive added a bunch more since that pic i been movin stuff around organizing a bit

[fluid sapphire]

im sure that idea was considered like 7 years ago

[past nest]

That worked, thanks :)

[fluid sapphire]

man, im like 99% sure there is some kind of memory leak to building belts, thats primarily what i am doing and every couple of hours my game implodes

[austere wyvern]

How did the devs get the ada voice

[green fiber]

google voices

[acoustic heart]

Phase 5 is so much easier than phase 4 lol

[willow glen]

If the game is crashing frequently post the log in #1038092680493801533 . This sounds like an Nvidia thing, lots of Nvidia users reporting frequent crashes lately, not sure the cause

[fluid sapphire]

its not gpu crash dump error, its uobject related

[willow glen]

Oh, are you already at the stage where you’re making super large factories? You might actually be close to the limit if so; I’ve already patched my game for that and I’d suggest you do to

[fluid sapphire]

highly doubtful that i am anywhere near the limit

[glad drum]

too neat - need more spaghetti

[fluid sapphire]

i have a few hundred kms of belts going on here, but usually my scale is pretty tame

i am not anywhere near the globabl scale insanity i have seen around here

[willow glen]

A few hundred km? Wow, yeah you’re already at about half map utilization then?

[fluid sapphire]

no, its just one factory with lots and lots and lots of belts

[willow glen]

They all patched it long ago (probably before 1.0)

[austere wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/false-gif-10814314758405640492

[willow glen]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Unreal_Engine#UObject_Limit_Increase

Try that see if it solves your UObject crash issue

worst case it does nothing

[fluid sapphire]

like this, except times 10
#screenshots message

or 20

[willow glen]

yeah even if you haven’t used a lot of nodes, each item on the belt is a UObject, so having more than 150km of belts can push you close to the limit.
(needs a fact check)

[sour pilot]

only if you automated phases 1-4 before )

[fluid sapphire]

i would think i would be crashing a lot more often if that was the case (my save at the limit)

[void cliff]

What’s the fastest you’ve speedran to phase 4?

[acoustic heart]

I mean.. It took me about 80-100 hours for phase 4. I’m about 40-50 hours into phase 5 and almost done automating everything

[willow glen]

as you move around the world it loads more into memory, hence why it takes a while, tho in my experience it’s usually 30 minutes decreasing each time

[acoustic heart]

True

[fluid sapphire]

i am only moving in a 1.5km radius

[austere wyvern]

Yeah, i just leave my factory running instead of bothering to build a megafactory to automate everything so its harded for me.

[acoustic heart]

Fair enough

[willow glen]

to phase 4 start or phase 4 completion?
I’ve gotten there in less than 40 hours twice, but never finished it faster than 80

[void cliff]

Start, nice

[willow glen]

Ya you can cut a lot of automation corners up to phase 4 but I find it’s just too difficult to speedrun through phase 4 without at least fully automating phase 3’s parts

[fluid sapphire]

on my map as a whole, right now there are 277km worth of belts xd

[dense turtle]

if im mining 120 with mk2 miner will i mine 240 with mk3?

[willow glen]

The save I am sure is over the limit has 350km of belts. My most recent one has started to lag as well, and it only has 149km

[hard ivy]

mining speed doubles with each miner tier upgrade and with each purity increase

[glad drum]

is there a stats page you can see this?

[fluid sapphire]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

upload your save

if every item on a belt is truly a uobject, then my save will literally implode when i finally turn this factory on, because right now 90% of those belts are empty

[void cliff]

I think phase 3 is really the biggest phase to get to early, but phase 4 certainly has its benefits - blenders, drones, hover pack

I guess what I’m most concerned about is unlocking tiers and alts. I’ve beaten the game once before but I’m spending way too much time in phase 3 this playthrough

[heavy pine]

I cannot for the life of me figure out why sometimes my train signals will say they're looping back on themselves.

[fluid sapphire]

go through any of the several dozen posts in #1038092680493801533 about the issue

[willow glen]

Ya if you’re gunning to use alts I recommend scouring the map once you get liquid biofuel or turbofuel, which both happen just before phase 3. Trains are nice too, but they don’t help with alts.

[willow glen]

It’s a bug. Deconstruct and rebuild all affected rails and signals. Affected rails won’t change color before/after their signal.

[void cliff]

They kinda go hand in hand, too. Can unlock a lot of stuff with the loot from crash sites

[heavy pine]

I have noticed that when it happens, the game seems to think I have another signal on the other side of the rail.

[willow glen]

Yup it’s related to the rail connections in the latest patch, sometimes they buggy and do a twist you can’t see too. The good news is intersections that work will always work, so once you fix it it won’t come back.

[ashen sun]

EARLY GAME IS SO SLOWWWWWWWWWWWW

[willow glen]

I think blueprinting a working intersection with signals might solve it, but I haven’t tested that yet

[ashen sun]

😭

[glad drum]

I go partially AFK for the early game with manual mining and crafting, then I unlock Smart Splitters ASAP to set up an automatic solid biofuel factory. Helps a lot.

[willow glen]

to speed things up, make exactly 50 smart plating. Either by hand or machine get the 50 RIP and 50 rotors and throw them in an assembler then go get some biomass. Phase 2 begins

[inner echo]

All this time...I thought I had gone insane.

[icy temple]

this!

[ashen sun]

oo im lowk just hand crafting things like a slave </3

[regal lantern]

It's a shame we can't enslave lizard doggos to toil away making things by hand

[icy temple]

ive tried to automate reinforced iron plates and rotors in early game and it is like 8~12 / min or smth like that

[regal lantern]

I bet the hand made iron plates would be better than machine made

[ashen sun]

hmmm lowk id much rather hand craft thigns then have to use biomass

[willow glen]

The way I do it now is I fully automate RIP but hand-feed rotors and smart plating

[hard ivy]

bio organic eco iron plates

[ashen sun]

because collecting biomas for like 5 plates per minute makes me realyl really sad

[inner echo]

Depends on the crafter. Mine are the bestest.

[regal lantern]

You're welcome to slave away on my server making iron plates

[icy temple]

is it worth to automate solid biofuel factory? i just rushed to coal generators and made like 6 of them automated

[regal lantern]

As soon as you have coal, biofuel isn't worth it

Unless you want to make jetpack fuel

[reef basin]

the whole game is chill pace

[past nest]

People don't do that?????? huh???

[sour pilot]

i didn't, just used temp productions with storages

[ashen sun]

no vro 😭 this game early game upsets me i came back because i awnted to build stuff :(

[regal lantern]

The whole game will go as fast or slow as you want it to tbh

[past nest]

I could never XD I barely scraped by tier 3 with like a fully automated mega factory lol

[inner echo]

I do the bare minimum for reinforced plates up until I actually need them in quantity.

[reef basin]

then build stuff?

[regal lantern]

If you wanna automate a little and spend all time exploring, you can

[ashen sun]

i gotta unlock the stuff to get to build

[sour pilot]

i did all other stuff except for parts

[regal lantern]

If you wanna rush and build everything fast, that's doable too. Just gotta find what you need and get to it

[reef basin]

build stuff to unlock the things you need 😉

[icy temple]

i mean what do you mean by ''early game'' i clocked 10 hours into my new world and already got to place where i can build 100x100 platforms and build factories on top of it

[sour pilot]

sometimes it's just worth it to rush the milestone, even by handcrafting

[regal lantern]

Or wander around and find crash sites with all the stuff you need

[past nest]

fr, i'm about 110h into my first playthrough and finishing up on automating all the tier 4 stuff and my freind is like 50 hours in and alredy working on teir 5 lol

[icy temple]

thats what i love about this type of sandbox games

[reef basin]

I'd say it never is worth

[icy temple]

everyone has their own pace / rules and they just chill

[regal lantern]

First play through took me like 100 hours to get to tier 4. I was doing dumb stuff though like running miles of spaghetti everywhere. Second one I was done with everything by 150 hours

[fluid sapphire]

i rushed tier 7 and 8, hell yeah it was worth it

[rigid mist]

building buffers are piss annoying when starting up a factory

[fluid sapphire]

buffers? what for

[reef basin]

what do you need buffers for?

[regal lantern]

And I was also doing dumb stuff with conveyers in the second one. Turns out building everything a way up in the sky and running long conveyers for everything is time-consuming

[icy temple]

lol

[acoustic heart]

Im sitting at 200 hours in my current playthrough and just need to automate the ballistic warp drives and the ai thingys

[rigid mist]

no the internal buffers for the input
it requires all of them to fill up before a manifold to start working properly

[past nest]

Thats what I did, flew through tier 1 and 2 with a crapy factory and then scraped everything and built a mega facctory once I had all the stuff unlocked. decided mega factory 1 was ass tho so working on the 2nd now XD

[reef basin]

just let it run while you build next part or different factory 😉

[rigid mist]

i can't really cause it's my power plant and i'm stress testing it

[glad drum]

It's nice to have somewhere to throw all the wood/leaves/mycelium - eventually making it into liquid biofuel.

[icy temple]

i hate building power plants

[acoustic heart]

I had a lot of fun building my turbo now rocket fuel plant

[visual cosmos]

i do that, but instead of building a different factory i spend the next few hours thinking about what i could build only to forget it all

[willow glen]

Mycelia to me is either fabric or inhalers, not biomass unless emergency

[topaz shale]

I'm about 60 or 70 hours into my 3rd try at finishing and I'm just now starting to get through phase 4. I really enjoy how we can take this game at our own pace.

[glad drum]

I just get enough fabric for parachute then idrc - I don't use inhalers cause I have mobs on passive

[topaz shale]

And by then, getting fabric from plastic is so nice since I make so much of it in my power area.

[rigid mist]

anyawys im about to turn on the uranium to my nuclear plant wish me luck

[visual cosmos]

100h in on my 3rd save, at phase 4 too
already automated half or more of it :)

i did finish the game on my prev saves though

[topaz shale]

Hello, fellow pY enjoyer

[willow glen]

uhh, gas filters?

[rigid mist]

greeting

[icy temple]

i try to make things both efficient and aesthetic in the early game but fail on effiecnt lol

[past nest]

my first coal powerplant was abysmal XD, i pumped water and coal over like a 300m ridge to get everything to my base, realized that pumping water was stupid so built it another 100m away before realizing I was a complete idiot and finaly built it literaly where i was pumping water and coal IN THE SAME PLACE lol

[glad drum]

only 13km of belts as i finish phase 1 - ill catch up

[visual cosmos]

[glad drum]

I usually just die to the gas.

or don't go in those places til I can make fabric with polymer resin

then automate it that way

[fluid sapphire]

i wouldnt be anywhere near that if i was a reasonable person with my aluminum factory, unfortunately i am not being very reasonable

[visual cosmos]

reason is for the weak
embrace your inner genius

[icy temple]

wow is it because spaghetti or just far away resource nodes?

[willow glen]

Ya I too had to take a step back and go “wait, it’s gonna be a lot easier to string a power line than it is a pipeline of water”.
And now I never put power generators in my production facilities. If it’s power, it’s only output is a wire

[glad drum]

BOTH! 😄 lmao I built by the water craters above the rocky desert area

where the coal is

[fluid sapphire]

in the middle there... there are 3 layers, the second floor is not any better
#screenshots message

[rigid mist]

nuclear choo 1 is on it's way to nuclear station

[glad drum]

MORE SPAGHETTI

[fluid sapphire]

lasagna 🍝

[glad drum]

#screenshots message I mean, this doesn't help either - it's gotten worse since i posted this

[inner oak]

chag

chat

[icy temple]

oh my...

[past nest]

totaly, I now have the actualy resonable coal power plant, a heavy oil residue based fuel plant nearish my plastic place and then three seperate oil powerplants based off of like 6 diferent pure nodes at like compleet oposite sides of the map XD if i see one of them isn't working its a nightmare to find whats wrong lol

[austere wyvern]

When do Yall think 1.2 will release?

[empty hemlock]

after 1.1

[visual cosmos]

will it release in the first place?
I'm not sure what there is to expand on lol

[acoustic heart]

Of course. We need golf

[regal lantern]

Ficsmas 2.0 surely

[austere wyvern]

FISHING MINIGAME

[visual cosmos]

the lore/story could use help but that's not the point of the game, the point is factory go brr

[rigid mist]

uranium train in station

[regal lantern]

I don't think there's much need for more lore/story. There's enough to get curiosity but it's not in the way

[past nest]

#screenshots message my solution lol, as long as I exclusively use right angles it's not spageti right XD

[regal lantern]

Like portal, it's there and funny but just added flavour while science occurs

[visual cosmos]

yea
at the same time the end doesnt explain much and just leaves you with more questions about whats actually happening

[glad drum]

#screenshots message

there's the interactive map... I'm so excited to play more later and make it ~~worse ~~ even better

[regal lantern]

I don't hate that, it's funny to me

[visual cosmos]

i miss having ada talk whenever i pick up spheres n sloops

[glad drum]

I really like that actually - lots of conveyors but looks neat and lasagna-y

[limpid cairn]

Same, need her schizophrenic convos back 😔

[austere wyvern]

Your blood boils, hear our song, your bones are not as beautiful as ours.

[visual cosmos]

huh is 40 different industrial storage groups enough for central storage

I mean 40 possible items in storage basically

[icy temple]

it looks like a bacteria petri dish lol

[visual cosmos]

at this point it's starting to get real expensive in mercer spheres

[icy temple]

trying to reach for nutrients

[nimble delta]

been struggling with my power fluctuating n after 6-8 hrs i think its cause i tried to make 20 refineries run off 600 oil on fuel recipe

[glad drum]

that's exactly what I was going for ❤️

[past nest]

Thats what i was going for lol, my last factory was basicaly spageti disguised as a multi layer factory that ultimately turned to crap once i had to expand. I wanted something that looked busy and alive but still organised-ish

I also started using sushi belts which are realy fun to play with and actualy make a lot of sence for a storage system

[visual cosmos]

undercooked spaguetti

[hard ivy]

last time I counted depot-worthy items it was like 50

[visual cosmos]

yeah i skipped stuff like ingots

[visual cosmos]

since i have a sorting system that sorts the mess in my inventory by dumping it in a container i'm trying to account for whatever i have on me

[austere wyvern]

I had a playthrough almost through phase 4 but i decided to restart due to my INCREADIBLE spaghetti

[visual cosmos]

also phase 4 only atm

[hard ivy]

then count all the items you could have in your inv..?

[visual cosmos]

but too many

so far i'm purposefully sending some stuff i could have in inventory to sinks like grass

[past nest]

I literaly had to rip everything down and move to the otherside of the map XD, the old factory is still there just because there was too much crap to get rid of

[visual cosmos]

I just dont want to go back to mercer sphere collecting again :(

[austere wyvern]

Lol

[glad drum]

That's awesome- how do you tend to use it? I wanna try using them this playthrough but the slow belts haven't given me much of a reason to just yet.

[visual cosmos]

got 127 mercer spheres left to collect

[atomic notch]

Well get there not done yet boss

[icy temple]

i love to automate like this but they are not effiecnet lol #screenshots message

[past nest]

@glad drum So basicaly I'll have an area where I make a lot of similar componets for the storage (ie. modular frames, heavy modular frames, reenforced plates ect) and have them all output onto a fast convayer belt running fairly central throughout the factory. It then runs past the back of the storage system and through a row of smart spliters that sorts them strait into storage and sinks the overflow to stop it from backing up

ill get a quick photo

[glad drum]

Okay you're totally clicking for me - if I run a ridiculously long conveyor straight through my spaghetti AND all the way around my base, giving the components a tour of their world, which ENDS at storage/sink - I can then just plop smart splitters on and take from the sushi belt wherever I need

[past nest]

Yup, thats prety much it, it makes it way easier to have a central storage system without tooooo much spageti and saves on running like lvl 4 belts everywhere when you could just run one long lvl 5 and a few lvl 1 belts

[glad drum]

I like this because I want LOTS of spaghetti, so if I have one super long, ridiculous fast spaghetti, it can let me build TONS of slower, wiggly spaghetti off of it

[past nest]

nailed it, basicly my factory down to a key if you replace the spageti with awkward straight lines XD

[heavy pine]

All glory to the Flying Spaghetti Monster

[atomic notch]

I wasnt really goin for spaghetti on mine more just chaos in general

[past nest]

#screenshots message This was the old factory but imagine the top floor duplicated through the whole thing with no order or proper floors XD

#screenshots message My world on a first playthrough of about 120 hours

[visual cosmos]

"You have been playing for 6 hours"

Aw dammit my aluminum factory broke down again

[reef basin]

did you mix fresh and recycled water? 😛

[visual cosmos]

:(

I know im not supposed to

But in my head it just works

[reef basin]

well in the game it usually doesn't 😉

[visual cosmos]

I need to add another refinery and split one of the old one's input

Then no mixing

[visual cosmos]

Why though
I still dont get it

[reef basin]

because if for any reason the production stops, the whole system gets more water than it needs, which can back it up

[visual cosmos]

But in my case i have a sink setup so unless game does something weird production shouldn't stop

[reef basin]

it can also be lack of material instead of too much material that causes the thing to stop

[true mulch]

Music. Haven't heard the game's soundtrack since 2019

2k hours and I recognize maybe 3 songs from the OST

[wicked nacelle]

Speaking of soundtracks I should play subnautica again

Any updates when the next bug fix may be coming?

[true mulch]

They're prolly on vacation still

Wouldn't expect any patches until September

[reef basin]

what bug are we talking about?

[true mulch]

Well at least signals are somewhat buggy

[shrewd palm]

i hope subnautica 2 goes as hard as the 1st one

[true mulch]

They're doing the right thing by pretending BZ doesn't exist

[wicked nacelle]

oh I was just about to say waxn't that the sequel? and yeah. bad

[violet wave]

what even was BZ

I know it released

[wicked nacelle]

a SN game that is mostly on land is... ?

[violet wave]

then like nobody played it and I saw nothing about it

[shrewd palm]

slighty worse subnautica than subnautica 1

its a fine game by itself it just doesn't really hold up compared to the 1st one

[true mulch]

Subnautica, but with a boring overground section and NPC narrative instead of a feeling of being totally stranded

[violet wave]

thrilling

[true mulch]

It's not a terrible game but it's far worse compared to the original

[shrewd palm]

i really hope krafton doesnt screw up subnautica 2 any more than they already have

[visual cosmos]

Alright fixed my alu

[visual cosmos]

So far its not looking great

Anyways

[past nest]

Lol

[shrewd palm]

as long as they arent trying to kill the game anymore and the founders win the lawsuit i think everything should work out

[violet wave]

cant be any worse than that one AI ark aquatica trailer

[shrewd palm]

aquatica in general ngl

nuking save files and mods my beloved

[violet wave]

never played ark but that trailer was crazy work lol

[icy temple]

is there an alternative for item transportation other than conveyor belts

[violet wave]

trains

[scenic mirage]

drones

[past nest]

Trucks

[violet wave]

excellent work, crew

[shrewd palm]

if you dont know what happened after that the dlc changed the game's code, which destroyed all save files that had mods

[past nest]

Nailed it

[shrewd palm]

tractors, trucks, trains, drones

[past nest]

Get your freinds to carry everything ect ect

[icy temple]

what would be the fastest items/sec possible with lets say drones

[shrewd palm]

drones are one of the slower methods, you really just use them for transporting small amounts of singular items

trains are what you use for taking the resources of entire biomes to a factory

[violet wave]

depends on distance travelled for drones
from the wiki: "After the first round trip is finished, the stack throughput of the Drone will be shown in the Drone's home Port, alongside its maximum throughput and fuel required per round trip. The efficiency of Drones increases with travel distance, as the landing and take-off animation takes 51 seconds. If the route is too short, most of it will be the landing animations; it would take 102 seconds to move items from two Drone Ports immediately next to each other."

[shrewd palm]

if you dont want to build a bus anyways

[past nest]

Trains are good for lots of stuff over long distances but suffer from inconsistent throughput, you need a decent storage buffer system

[visual cosmos]

I doubt it would go well for them if they win the lawsuit considering both sides seems to have a good reason to have that lawsuit + no matter what the founders won't come back to the studio imo

[icy temple]

i am trying to understand if i can extract all the materials with mk2 miners on a %250 pure node

[shrewd palm]

large storage container with belts connected to both input/output fixes all throughput issues

[icy temple]

600 items/sec is possible with conveyor belts i believe

[visual cosmos]

Me with 8 freight car trains

[scenic mirage]

you need mk5 conveyors

[icy temple]

ouch

[past nest]

I still stand by the idea that 10 trains with one freight cart is the far superior option XD

[shrewd palm]

it looks like they want to come back, or at least in the lawsuit they want to be reinstated to their old positions. i doubt they're gonna work with krafton ever again once the game launches (assuming they get back in the first place)

[violet wave]

it wouldn't matter what method of transportation you used for the miner if you didn't have mk5 belts anyways. you'd still be limited by your fastest belt as the miner still needs to be connected to 'x'

[visual cosmos]

You can do it earlier so long as you have a qol mod that allows snapping splitters/mergers to output and inputs

Without that you need the corresponding belt

[icy temple]

i play with no mods rn

[shrewd palm]

the belts go:
mk1 at 60 items/min
mk2 at 120
mk3 at 240
mk4 at 480
mk5 at 780
mk6 at 1200 (and thats what you need for a fully overclocked mk3 miner on a pure node)

[icy temple]

thx!

[past nest]

Your basically limited by however much you can take out on one belt, a train should easily be able to carry that much but whether you can load it fast enough is the real kicker

[visual cosmos]

Yea then gotta wait for the right belt
Which is a really annoying system imo, theres no point in them allowing you to output more items from a miner than your highest available belt

[past nest]

Or unload the miner fast enough in this case

[reef basin]

no, that would be 36000/min 😛

[violet wave]

mk17 belt

[shrewd palm]

don't throw more than 300/min on to a train unless the route is really short

[visual cosmos]

[icy temple]

yeah true meant to say 600/min lol

[past nest]

Overclockable belts perchance XD

[scenic mirage]

wdym

[visual cosmos]

I mean at that point just add more freight cars

[heavy pine]

Tractors, trucks, and trains

[scenic mirage]

im prob setting up trains tomorrow

[heavy pine]

So many things to distract me from getting aluminum online.

[shrewd palm]

tldr it helps with throughput, so its best to just throw an impure on to 1 car, normal on to 2 cars, pure on to 4 cars

[past nest]

Realy? I have a train that carries ~750 items a min but it is a 2 lane loop with about 5 separate train cars running at once

[reef basin]

eh, why not?

[shrewd palm]

idk its just what ive been doing

[reef basin]

one belt = one car is my rule of thumb

in majority of cases that works just fine

[shrewd palm]

i can get any node with at most 2 trains no matter how far across the map it is

[frail sleet]

That's one of the most efficient ways to use trains. You can easily scale to 1200/min/platform that way

[scenic mirage]

is there any reading i can do on trains

[past nest]

I just make a 2 lane route, throw as much crap at it as possible and just add trains until it runs smothly

[visual cosmos]

or 1 lane and put 8 freight cars and 4 train loco

i like doing that

[heavy pine]

What's the "best" size of train? I tend to use one engine with four cargo wagons in Factorio, does the same apply here?

[visual cosmos]

1:4 ratio

[violet wave]

was just about to ask about ideal ratios for trains as I haven't brushed up on it. it's 1:4?

[rigid mist]

#screenshots message i tried to clear from blueprint designer and my game crashed

[shrewd palm]

if you dont want to stick to a formula just find out how many resources you need to be transporting, split that up into cars however you want to make transporting easier (eg taking a pure node is a lot easier with 2 or 3 cars instead of putting it all in one), and add buffers on to the input and output so that throughput is consistent

[scenic mirage]

what is that 💀

[past nest]

I have 2 trains on the aluminium route (~3km low througput), 5 on the main depot to the mega base route (8km, lotsss of items) and one on the little local route that gathers stuff to the big depot (very short but quite a lot of items.

[violet wave]

I just have to assume that's nuclear waste storage

[rigid mist]

96 industrial storage containers

[shrewd palm]

there are quite a lot of train guides on youtube but imo good ones are few and far between

[rigid mist]

i need 525 containers

[scenic mirage]

buffers? theres no item buffers only liquid tho, or am i just dumb lol

[visual cosmos]

1:4 it is yes
if you want more, just double both
you can also add a head to have 1:4:1 which allows the train to go both directions

[scenic mirage]

damn what you storing in that

[heavy pine]

Leaves.

[rigid mist]

(the amount i need for 200 hours of storing 1050/m nuclear waste)

[shrewd palm]

storage chests.
set up a large storage chest with both of its holes connected to where you're taking/putting in items

[past nest]

A buffer is basically a storage container that is loaded faster or at the same rate that it's emptied, it basically stableizes 500 items every 5 mins into 100 items every min

[violet wave]

why not send it and make them into plutonium fuel rods

[scenic mirage]

oooh i see

[violet wave]

stacking waste is scary imo

[rigid mist]

i'm storing it so that i can give myself enough time to make the factory that does that

[shrewd palm]

i have a small island of waste leftover from my old nuclear plant

you die if you go within like a 200m radius of it

[past nest]

Wait so you can't awesome sink it and you can't just regularly delete it so you just wait.for radiation to stack up to the point of it being unfixable?

Or am I missing something

[shrewd palm]

the idea is basically that you empty the train station as fast as possible to clean up throughput @scenic mirage

[shrewd palm]

cant sink waste

[visual cosmos]

did you look into performance mods, especially ones for placing large amounts of buildings at once?
I'm pretty sure there are some that remove the flying items/building animation
idr if they apply to blueprints though

[shrewd palm]

ficsit doesnt waste

[visual cosmos]

[rigid mist]

i don't think mods would work/help

[visual cosmos]

aw

[heavy pine]

You can't easily get rid of uranium waste. You can process it into plutonium fuel rods, which can be sunk or used in more power plants, but then you have to deal with the plutonium waste until you can make it into ficsonium fuel that doesn't leave waste.

[shrewd palm]

and going to fisconium is more trouble than its worth

[past nest]

Damm, ima just stick to fuel thanks XD

[heavy pine]

I staggered across the finish line on my last game with a combination of turbofuel and geothermal plants. Never quite got around to figuring out nuclear power.

[past nest]

I would like to try it at some point as a fun project but the effort doesn't seem worth it if you were going for pure material-to-power efficiency

[shrewd palm]

gonna be so satisfactory once you do it tho

im working on a 630GW nuclear plant rn

cant do that with rocket fuel unless you use like all the sulphur and nitrogen and stuff

[violet wave]

I didn't touch nuclear in my old world purely because of how OP the oil-based fuels are

going to go crazy on nuclear in this world

[visual cosmos]

there's a reddit post from 3 months ago that mention the blueprint zooping mod that has an option to disable build animation
Not sure if it would help, but afaik it does reduce lag to some extent
else just lock it in as hologram then go further away and place it

[rigid mist]

probably will do that

[visual cosmos]

since its further away from you game will generate less details for the objects

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1407818510133887118

Silica is kinda white

[past nest]

#screenshots message Do i need the thermal propultion rockets for anything else? I realy hope so XD

[peak wasp]

They're good sink points

[silent copper]

Hi

[heavy pine]

(Wrong reply) They're used for a phase 5 space elevator component.

[versed plinth]

man

20 BWDs per minute is gonna take me till winter at this rate

[visual cosmos]

damn boombox isnt in programmable splitter

[versed plinth]

0/10 game

[visual cosmos]

ikr

i better not throw it into my dump container that auto sorts

else its going into sink and clogging it

welp in theory my central storage system is done

i added one container with a ton of filters in a programmable splitter just in case anything valuable slips by but should be oke

[daring pawn]

do awesome sinks consume as fast as theyre fed
or do they have a max limit on how much they can take per min

[limber mulch]

No limit

You can have many too

[peak wasp]

morning, pioneers

[zenith spruce]

why did they not implement auto connect for energy?
like for example I can understand that there is an issue with implementing it with the current system but:

I just want a block, like a beam connector kind of block, that can transfer energy to another connector block adjacent to it.

So it doesn't need auto connect, but placing one Blueprint next to another, and where they connect is also on each side a connector block, it will transmit the energy and you are set.

It is the biggest flaw I see in the current version

[wicked nacelle]

yeah power connection in the game is really just a chore not a meaningful addition to the gameplay. power generation is okay but power connections are dumb. And beyond that the concept that the game allows you to connect, say, two constructors together with a power connection is annoying

[visual cosmos]

One thing i really like about dsp is the wireless power system

[wicked nacelle]

it should know that a machine with one power connection can only be an input and never an output and tying two inputs together is meaningless

[zenith spruce]

yea, daisy chaining is a must

[shrewd palm]

daisy chain everything mod

[wicked nacelle]

i think someone told me a while ago that those connections continue to work even without the mod, you just can't make new ones?

I don't want to trust mod makers to keep the game updated to not lose a save

[smoky forge]

thats like saying, o yeah i want to eat the cheetos but i dont actualy want to use my hands for that

[shrewd palm]

i have no idea

you can connect things to machines but im not sure about whether or not they stay if you uninstall the mod

[visual cosmos]

Another issue is mk1 power poles literally have half their slots used just to link them together

[wicked nacelle]

I think that's intentional to make you want to get mk2 poles which have 2.5x the usable slots. but .. whether that provides enjoyable gameplay is.. ???

[visual cosmos]

[wispy glade]

Today i found out that this game does not like encrypted system and network, which is fishy since this is the only game to do that, friend tried to play it and it asked him to disable his encryption for satisfactory

[wicked nacelle]

no? Care to share the exact message he got so we can explain to you what it actually means?

satisfactory networking is about as bog standard UE multiplayer as it gets

[runic bolt]

chat what's a good size of trains?
is a 1:2 good enough, or is a 1:6 major overkill? I think it'll transport either caterium or oil to my megabase

[wicked nacelle]

what ratio are you referring to? engine:car?

[runic bolt]

yeah

idk if I should go for 2 engines at that length

[wicked nacelle]

1:4 will go up 2m ramps. It won't go up max incline though

[abstract heron]

Is a billion to fast

[wicked nacelle]

1:4 is generally considered "safe". Also shorter trains simplify junctions by allowing you to place other things closer as junction exits need to be long enough for a whole train

[abstract heron]

Or trillion

[runic bolt]

I dont think junctions should be too big of an issue tbh
for now my biggest concern is throughput

[wicked nacelle]

throughput is per station not train length.

[runic bolt]

yeah but faster and longer train = higher throughput

[wicked nacelle]

not really because you can just make more trains

[runic bolt]

ah, bollocks

[upbeat rain]

is this site safe?
https://ficsit.app/mod/KBlueprintDesignPlus
I'm looking for a larger Blueprint Designer mod.

[wicked nacelle]

you get about 1.5 belts worth of throughput per station

[runic bolt]

..so 6 stations for caterium would be kinda overkill?

I'm wayyy to used to factorio's "just build more :D"

[wicked nacelle]

with 50 stacks it's closer to 1 belt per platform. with 500 stacks it's like 1.8 belts per platform. You can do the math from there with what you have available and what you need to move

the actual numbers are on the wiki somewhere

[visual cosmos]

to some extent yes
there's a modding discord you can use
https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/455858725518049280/1407426547408834721

that website is the main modding website though yeah
the website also specifies that the mod you're looking at is damaged :)

[peak wasp]

Hello, good evening. I had a question. Do you know of any way for Satisfactory to use all the threads of my processor?

[wicked nacelle]

games use CPU how they use CPU. You don't get to control that

[visual cosmos]

if you're talking about multithreading, its already implemented as far as i'm aware

[peak wasp]

I suppose it's not there because otherwise I would be going over 90 fps with frame generation and everything.

[wicked nacelle]

but how many simultaneous tasks it can do is intrinsic to the game. You can have a thread that only wants 10% of a cpu core and another that wants 300% of one core and it can't split to 3x100%

[wicked nacelle]

?? You don't seem to understand how computers work

[visual cosmos]

its not perfect maybe but it still helps with the performance :)

[visual cosmos]

maybe lower your graphic settings

also note that whenever the game automatically saves, it saves in a specific way that causes lag, which is why some people change the autosave frequency

[heavy pine]

I presume the phantom "DockingStation" entries in the truck station list is a known bug.

[wicked nacelle]

graphics settings have little to do with CPU usage, though, too.

[plush dawn]

a game can only be multithreaded so much

also graphics are irrelevant to processor

[wicked nacelle]

graphics api calls do take significant CPU... but that doesn't change much based on settings

[plush dawn]

yeah but more threads doesn't inherently mean more fps

[wicked nacelle]

but you do see, for example, that the dedicated server takes significantly less CPU than the game

[visual cosmos]

yeah
I doubt the cpu is the actual issue when it comes to the person's framerate though
could be i'm not exactly the most knowledgeable on this

[wicked nacelle]

satisfactory is a VERY CPU heavy game and it absolutely does affect frame rate. Your GPU can be sitting idle a lot in satisfactory in a big save

[peak wasp]

It's okay. I'm saying this because other games with higher demand will give me more FPS, so I don't know.

[wicked nacelle]

other games are different than satisfactory. All games are different

what goes on to make a frame of the game varies drastically between different games -- and it must vary drastically between different styles of games

[visual cosmos]

and to be fair when playing factory-type games i usually dont try to get more than 60fps personally

[tropic juniper]

cpu bottlenecking comes late game really. if your cpu is taking more weight that the gpu early game, you might be under minimum specs

[plush dawn]

its also hard to multithread a open world type game, otherwise you get region desync and that can cause major issues in a factory game

[wicked nacelle]

desync isn't really the right word since from a game perspective all the threads operate on the same "tick". It's more about data dependencies.

[plush dawn]

its like trying to build a bridge between two moving vehicles

[tropic juniper]

2 fast 2 furious coding

[void cliff]

I wanna do a dedicated server at some point, seems fun. I’ve got several PC’s and a steam deck. Maybe do a dedicated server on the PC when playing on the Steam deck or something

[runic bolt]

nah I max out my gpu just existing ;/

[worthy hatch]

Can’t wait for tomorrow

[runic bolt]

CPU is chillin tho

[wicked nacelle]

what's tomorrow?

[river oriole]

hi

[runic bolt]

the day after today

[worthy hatch]

Look in announcements

#announcements

[wicked nacelle]

what am I looking for? I don't see it

[slate python]

Is it just me or is Ada a penutbutter cheese cracker

[worthy hatch]

Ragebait

lol

[wicked nacelle]

seriously, can you just tell me what you're talking about

[worthy hatch]

Jason posted a video

[wicked nacelle]

oh I didn't watch it

[worthy hatch]

Watch

[wicked nacelle]

can you save me a click and just tell me what it is?

[worthy hatch]

No

[slate python]

Boxes or towers #screenshots message

[wicked nacelle]

well I hope it lives up to your expectations whatever it is

[tropic juniper]

they're releasing the hokey pokey update

[visual cosmos]

le dm

[runic bolt]

aint that both?

but towers ig?

[worthy hatch]

Make Mario

[glad drum]

#screenshots message

hmm this is a first

[shrewd palm]

shoutout to curved belt mode

[glad drum]

Towers, then build a race track connecting them with vertical movement for the explorer

[wicked nacelle]

they should have figurd out how to allow splitters/mergers on them though.

[slate python]

There not mine

[slate python]

There not mine

[shrewd palm]

i really only use it for corners

[worthy hatch]

lol

[shrewd palm]

and trying to put a splitter on a corner instead of just putting the belt through the splitter is certainly a decision

[glad drum]

#screenshots message
I love going back to my old world and seeing it (somehow) still working.

[visual cosmos]

that is some nightmare level stuff

[glad drum]

I'd love for someone to load into that world and be tasked with locating certain things lmao what a headache

[azure ermine]

wow, the diagonal world borders....it would have been cool if they were, say, 30, 45, 60 degree angles. But NO 🙂

I've been trying to pave and mark the border and wow, annoying. Completely not needed but when has that stopped anyone

[wicked nacelle]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map#3;47372;42480|gameLayer|worldBorder

[azure ermine]

from the Interactive Map and just finding where it goes ouchie, the southeast slant is about 7 rise to 5 run? But not perfectly, it drifts away from the line. Plus, blueprints only 5x5

[marble willow]

Has anyone put a floor over the entire planet yet

[azure ermine]

made a pair of blueprints to put a rough sawtoothed edge with red warning foundations and fencing, but it's...not pretty. Still took it from the southern border up to the giant waterfalls into the void. I can resume pursuing the line over the ocean up there after adding a giant ramp.

[azure ermine]

it's certainly possible. I'm aiming to build most machines over this new flat space over the void because (don't tell FICSIT) I find the verdant landscape very pretty.

[wicked nacelle]

SCIM lets you put down mass foundations pretty much however you'd like with a few clicks

[azure ermine]

I let go of the idea of following the slope too closely because literally I am creating an enormous area of foundation that I could add levels to...more than I will need. Make the whole void a parking garage

[marble willow]

Ooh useful

[violet wave]

my oil extractors are somehow not at 100% efficiency yet also feed my plastic/rubber factory at 100% efficiency. lols

[heavy pine]

Some people pave paradise to put up a parking lot, you're making use of the void.

[main topaz]

It seems like you aren't consuming all the oil then.

[violet wave]

oh, shoot

I was about to counterpoint, but yeah I completely neglected to properly clock the extractors

insanity that I managed to miss that

[daring pawn]

how much regular fuel/m does a fuel generator take

[violet wave]

20/min

[daring pawn]

thank you duck person

[violet wave]

you are welcome, cat man

[wicked nacelle]

oh, not overclocked. I was like "wait that doesn't sound right"

50/m is the number I'm used to. but that's 20*2.5

[azure ermine]

I just noticed the duck eating the bread.

[ivory condor]

I wouldn't recommend doing that, scim is dangerous

[wicked nacelle]

only for you. for others it works fine.

[reef dock]

I have a question about coal generators. the generators use 45m^3 water/min, the water extractors pump out 120/min, so the ratio would be 8:3 but the pipeline has a maximum throughput of 300. Won't this be a problem?

[wicked nacelle]

and regardless it gives you a new save. your old save is just the same as it was before

[ivory condor]

Lol no it isn't only for me, and for others it certainly isn't working fine lol, you just think its fine when that's some dangerous broken stuff

[versed plinth]

my save game is starting to not enjoy living

so that's a thing

[viscid bobcat]

for industrial storage containers, do i need to fulfill both conveyor slots?

or can I just connect one and it will fill it up all the way

[versed plinth]

no but it can help increase throughput in certain scenarios

[viscid bobcat]

ok thank you

[ivory condor]

Dont believe me, trying actually pasting factories for example with scim, the results aren't pretty

[wicked nacelle]

yeah so don't do that

I didn't suggest anyone else do that, either

[reef dock]

damn

[ivory condor]

Anyways want to break your saves by using scim go right ahead but im not touching that

You know because I like my saves to be playable and not run at single digit frame rates

[wicked nacelle]

it doesn't break saves. it can't break a save

it has no access to write to your saves

[marble willow]

Well I appreciate that warning a lot

[wicked nacelle]

the worst it can do is give you a new one that doesn't work how you want it to

[versed plinth]

there should really be a more efficent way to convert sam ore into reanimated SAM

[dense violet]

!wikisearch CG

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=CG

[dense violet]

not if you have multiple inputs

[hard ivy]

would be nice. in an encoder or converter so it's T9 exclusive

[shrewd palm]

there are a bunch of recipes arent there?

[versed plinth]

not for SAM to reanimated SAM