satisfactory

[violet moat]

does the map also show areas that i havent been to or only areas ive been to

i wanna find water on the map but i see absolutely zero sources

[fluid sapphire]

if you dont want to use SCIM, keep looking, there is a lot of water

[jaunty torrent]

only areas you've been to

also this is my current mess #screenshots message

[fluid sapphire]

thats not so bad, machines on foundations and some organization

[slow kindle]

How are you supposed to kill the radioactive hogs 😭

[jaunty torrent]

a gun and some high ground

and patience

I usually just run away tho :P

[slow kindle]

Need uranium

[sterile blade]

Stun rebar makes any target quite compliant...

[violet moat]

whats SCIM?

[fluid sapphire]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

[slow kindle]

SatisfaCtoryInteractiveMap

[violet moat]

ohh ty

[shy mulch]

I'd have saved myself so much heartache if I did my rails like yours. Mine have foundations under 100% of the track and making corners look clean was a nightmare

[fluid sapphire]

yeah i considered the effort it took to make clean curves and trying to make it perfect and i was like nope, not doing that

[shy mulch]

I'm kinda committed now 😂 done a full loop around the world and a couple stations. Plan is to do a few smaller loops connected to main loop and obviously a lot more stations. But if I do them in a different style it'll look weird

[slow kindle]

I honestly envy people with clean factories
my factories are always so messy(still work 😎 )

[shy mulch]

I never delete anything, unless it's in the way of something I'm trying to do. I've still got my early game spaghetti and biomass mess. My badly set up coal power. 3 separate iterations of nuclear power (1st one was 1 power plant, 2nd was 4 uranium 2 plutonium, 3rd was 8:4:2). All the factories I made gradually got bigger and better and cleaner as I progressed and I've still got all of them, so I can travel around my world looking at my history like a museum of learning

[jaunty torrent]

you can always build a massive concrete platform on top of everything else

just probably unplug things that aren't in use because like, messed up max power useage otherwise

[violet moat]

hey guys, if my coal node and a water site is way too far away, should i bring the pipes near the node, or start looking for new coal nodes?

[true mulch]

it would be easier to transport the coal rather than the water (no head lift + more throughput), but there are plenty of nodes near water

you can leave that node for steel

[violet moat]

i cant lie i havent been able to find any big water source, i wanna overclock my mk2 miner so it can do 600 coal/min but i cant find a water source big enough :(

[true mulch]

grass fields?

head northeast

[violet moat]

okayy bet, ty

or should i use the interactive map on scim?

[frail sleet]

grassy fields has the least water out of any biome, it only has a small fraction of the water that the deserts have

but yeah, west side there is an ocean and north-center-ish there is a huge lake

[true mulch]

is that not the same thing?

I don't know of any other maps beside SCIM

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

[violet moat]

forgive me i'm new lol

i dont know the terms well yet

[frail sleet]

when i say huge lake https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1360092382057726003/image.png?ex=6898103d&is=6896bebd&hm=e3b24d3ecab71d5049ae48ca3a1c3467a432beed54d9550768ec8b36798d48bd&

[true mulch]

no worries, there probably are other maps, just that SCIM is the most popular

[violet moat]

i just wanna do a decent factory for now which has like 40 coal gens so i dont have to focus on power much for awhile

[violet moat]

oo damn okay

[true mulch]

!wikisearch CG

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=CG

[violet moat]

huh

[true mulch]

more or less tilable generator design for multiples of 8

[violet moat]

ahh okay ty

a mk2 miner on pure node can produce 600 per min so thatll get me way more power than i need rn

[violet moat]

is there a pure coal node near that?

[true mulch]

oh yeah but do you have a belt that can transport that much?

[frail sleet]

there are four coal nodes next to it 😄

[violet moat]

^ overclocked

[violet moat]

holy, okayy

[violet moat]

wait. im stupid i didnt think of that lol, most i have rn is a mk3 so 270/m

whoops

[true mulch]

240 could be easier to work with (as 8 generators take 120), and you have multiple nodes to deal with

[violet moat]

i'm gonna be destroying my entire world soon to rebuild it cus all of my factories are really messy so i decided to justv set up power before that

[violet moat]

yaa

also on the scim all the parts are kinda greyed out is there a way i can expose them

[true mulch]

wdym?

you can post in #screenshots or make a #1038092680493801533 thread

[violet moat]

okay check screenshots rq

u see how all of it is just black right

[true mulch]

look for a "fog of war" icon in the right panel

[silk ocean]

Fog of war in settings

[violet moat]

how do i check the map itself

ty guys

[silk ocean]

I got it turned off yep xD

[shy mulch]

Man I'm so jealous of people who are new to this game. My favourite part was exploring and finding new things

[silk ocean]

Same applies to any good game xD

[true mulch]

there's the feeling of discovering a new game and then the feeling of discovering a new good game

[silk ocean]

It's true, in my history of video gaming there are not so many "magic" moments

They are great when they come, a week or two of a great feeling

[wooden ocean]

you mean the satisfaction goes away, when you chuck a bundle of explosives down the hole to blow up 4 crawler thingies?

[silk ocean]

Novelty factor I guess, but that's just natural

Probably took a lot longer than 2 weeks with satisfactory because it's so good, and my 1150 hours playtime on steam would support that XD

[exotic pilot]

What’s up chat

[silk ocean]

Kinda more like story driven games where it's all new. Play them again and it's great but you know what's coming

[shadow isle]

reminder to check your video settings.. i just learned my game wasnt in the proper resolution and some things were set on high (bad for me)

and i got 142h in the game 😭

[vagrant mortar]

hello i have issue with my diluted fuel factory
my water should always flow at 600/min but its not and idk why

[silk ocean]

You could try playing with things like upscaling / frame generation (if available), see if that helps. Some settings are more punishing than others

[silk ocean]

Is it kinda sloshing? Seems fairly normal I find xD

[shadow isle]

is that the ai stuff?
nah i got some acer laptop, i need to run most high graphic quality games on medium or low

[violet moat]

Hehe :)

Im just getting sulfur rn for the explosives

I gotta research it

[shadow isle]

but im completely fine with low graphics, they hardly interfere with the gameplay enjoyment

[meager crest]

WANNA HEAR A MEME

[violet moat]

The travel distance between my base and the lake is so damn far

[meager crest]

MEMES

[silk ocean]

The framegen is kinda ai I think yea. maybe try DLSS?

[leaden turret]

if one has a 1440p monitor, one can set the resolution to 1080p and upscale it to 1440p. it works, buuuuuut I don't like the visual artefacts. too distracting for me 🤷‍♂️

[vagrant mortar]

it should produce as much water as i use and sometimes my packagers are empty and my water pumps are full and the water is only flowing 80/min
only fix i found is flushing the pipe network

[leaden turret]

that's a plural.

more you asked if people wanted singular 😛

[silk ocean]

Do you have much head lift?

[meager crest]

LIZZERD

[vagrant mortar]

i have 5 mk1 pipeline pump from my water pump to my fluid buffer and then pipes going down from the fluid buffer to the packagers

[shadow isle]

question, do you usually place smelters near the nodes, or at your main factory, if its a bit away from it

[silk ocean]

Maybe use Mk.2 pumps? The Mk.1's only do 300 I think

[vagrant mortar]

ok

[silk ocean]

I think they do 50m of headlift so you probably don't need so many pumps

[sand spruce]

Hello! I was wondering if there might be a nice list somewhere with items which get used allot if just crafting and making buildings . I have a ncie storage and have a rule that items that get used allot ill make a factory producting that item wit 30/min for storage, while items that dont get used allot will get 2/min for storage. now i jsut need to know which items i need to set to 30 and which to 2

[silk ocean]

I might be wrong on that, could just be how much headlift they can do

20m on the Mk.1, 50m on the Mk.2

[vagrant mortar]

its actually 10 on mk1 and 20 on mk2

maybe my fluid buffer is too big for the 10m headlift to fill it up?

[sand spruce]

or should i make a question topic about this

[crimson karma]

when are they going to add pollution, i want to be able to throw out the heavy oil residue in the nearby river directly from the refinery just fir fun

[silk ocean]

There is SCIM (satisfactory calculator) website, might help you out

[silk ocean]

My only guess is something to do with that very high rise, but I'm not entirely sure :/

[sand spruce]

well i got most of it sorted, just unlocked oil processing and i know imma need allot of plastic so imma make 30/min of plastic. but am i going to use rubber allot? do i need 30/min for storage of that too?

[shy mulch]

It seems far now. In the future it won't seem far. Faster modes of travel will come in time

[silk ocean]

Yea there is a list somewhere of the total amount of everything needed to complete the game, just trying to remember where it is XD

[unkempt blade]

yes, soon enough they'll unlock the factory cart and all their movement troubles will be over

[silk ocean]

Generally you're going to use a lot of the intermediate products to complete the game, some more than others depending on the recipes used, but I guess you will need at least 30/min of rubber. I use more plastic than rubber but your factory might vary xD

[sand spruce]

Yeah im jus talking about storage alone right now

If im making something more complicated which needs rubber or plastic, im intergrading it in its creation

Like modulair frames for storage is 2 per minute enough, but for like lets say iron plates, which get used allot in general building, youre gonna need that at 30/min for storage

thats why i was wondering if there was a list of soem sorts just for storage which items get used up fast in general activities and which dont

[silk ocean]

Things like concrete, plates, cable, copper wire, plates/beams/alu (depending on Mk of the belts you are using), and then specific items for buildings. It's hard to say for sure, I was always running out of those items at least

[sand spruce]

The items you will use up rapidly are concrete, iron plates, plastic, reinforced iron plates, steel beams, encased industrial beams, Alclad sheets, silica, quartz crystal, steel pipes, copper sheets, wire, cable, iron rods. i have these set to 30/min for storage asnd everything els to 2/min

but im not sure about rubber

[true mulch]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Category:Building_materials

[silk ocean]

If you search the codex for rubber you can see everything it is used in and decide what are the chances of needing a lot

[true mulch]

(or the wiki, to see recipes you haven't unlocked yet)

[sand spruce]

Thats a good one too

[unkempt blade]

just don't forget to automate and depot factory carts - you're going to need a lot of those for sure

[sand spruce]

Is it feasable to make lines of 30/min of each of these just for storage?

[true mulch]

that would be a pointlessly huge undertaking for any remotely complex parts

[sand spruce]

Yeah thats what i thought

[true mulch]

you're usually fine with roughly 10/min

[sand spruce]

These are the ones im for sure going to make 30/min

[true mulch]

but feel free to make more of the really basic parts (especially concrete)

[unkempt blade]

sometimes I'll use a splitter with an overflow rule to favor the depot before sending it down the production chain for other stuff so I can have lots when I need it and none other times

[true mulch]

imo a good strategy is to build less and expand if you need rather than overbuild

[hard ivy]

For some, even 300/min might not be enough (*cough* concrete)

[true mulch]

yeeeah foundation blueprints are fun

[sand spruce]

Thats how my storage works :). 30/min into storage abd overflow after full into sink

[unkempt blade]

yeah for stuff that isn't used for power production I tend to do depot > production > sink

I don't mess with power production stuff the same way because I don't want to deal with blowing the fuse

[sand spruce]

So we can conclude that this is the list for 30/min storage and anything els can be lower?

Storage only

[silk ocean]

My general policy has been to store everything I end up making xD

dimensional depots everywhere

[sand spruce]

When i unlock something new, i jsut tend to make a new line with the 30/2 rule just for storage XD

[silk ocean]

Comes in handy at some point in time, unlocking a hard drive or something at least XD

[dark elbow]

I wonder...yall think they have plans to add more biomes?

Lotta room for expansion hehe

[hard ivy]

I mean I store at least 10-15/min of everything. Concrete gets 960, iron plates 240, iron rods 120, wire 240, cable 120, all mk3+ belt materials at least 60
The only exception is portable miners, which get 1/min

[sand spruce]

so i unlocked oir proccesing now, so imma make a line for rubber and plastic. its moreso the question do i make 30 or 2 or these per minute

[dark elbow]

5 for each and have overflow go into a sink

[sand spruce]

yeah but some more complex items have huge factories for jsut 10/min XD

[silk ocean]

The other thing about storing everything is that you don't have to produce extra, just accept that the production line might stall or slow down if you use a load of that material but eventually the buffer will recover and factory will resume 100%

As long as you protect critical assets (power generation basically)

[sand spruce]

Im a 100% efficientcy person

im not gonna work with stalling

[silk ocean]

100% efficiency would result in stalling if you suddenly consume a load of materials to build something though? 🙂

[sand spruce]

not for storage?

I make a line and everything will go into storage with dimensional on top of it. if storage end up empty, the factory is stull rpducing them.

theres a sink on storage for exxces so it will never block up either

i dont use storage for other lines, i jsut create soemthing new from notes

[silk ocean]

Yea in that sense I guess so xD If you have separate solutions for storage that power down when it's full, etc

I was thinking more about the concept of tapping off a main production line to fill a dimensional depot

[finite mirage]

what does the alien power augmenter do?

[sand spruce]

Yeah thats not how i do it, I make an end product. this will go into storage with an overflow to sink, so its always running

[silk ocean]

Increases your power generation by an extra 10% of however much you are currently generating

[shy mulch]

Augments your power, in alien ways

[finite mirage]

can i put multiple of these down?

[silk ocean]

Yah

[finite mirage]

like if i put down 10, double power?

[cursive crane]

eats sloops however

which you need for other things

[shy mulch]

Yes, but good luck with that. Look at what you need to build them

[silk ocean]

Yea that's a good way too, probably means you'll almost always have materials if needed

It's 10 sloops I think per augmenter, and there are a limited number in the world

[cursive crane]

!wikisearch sloops

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=sloops

[cursive crane]

106 to be exact

[silk ocean]

So you could only actually build 10 augmenters in total, and then basically nothing left for other stuff XD

[cursive crane]

depends, They are used for research or something too I think

but its not just 10% either, its 500mw flat and 10%

which early on, not bad to get at least one of them running

[shy mulch]

Only 1 needed for research? I maybe forgot something else

[shy mulch]

I've got one in my phase 0 build 😁

[cursive crane]

3 of em in research

[shy mulch]

Ah so 103 avaliable for use then

[sand spruce]

Exactly the point. but im not gonna make 30 modular frames per minute if im not gonna use allot, which is where my main question came from

[silk ocean]

Remember to sloop your constructor when popping the slugs into it

[cursive crane]

but youd be dumb not to use some for slooping things like alien data and slugs

[silk ocean]

Yea.. apart from.. tickets maybe xD

Statues, shop 😄

Lizzard Doggo statues

[sand spruce]

Yeah but like i said, everything i unlock gets atleast a 2/min storage

even items like smartplating which dont have any use in the future probable\

these will give points for tickerts too

[cursive crane]

If you run a server, or are willing to leave your world on at all, the late/mid game becomes trivial because you don't actually need to make /m resources, just need to wait long enough for whatever you need

its even kinda true for late game stuff cuz an army of doggos gets you some pretty good t8 stuff

[sterile blade]

If they fit on already existing belts, adding more items for storage is pretty much "free" ^^

[silk ocean]

I mostly do the same thing to be fair - separate production lines but as far as should you do 2 or 30.. hard to say xD

[ruby nymph]

Do you have to pay for a server?

[sterile blade]

I go for 30 or 60/min for the big consumers (concrete, belt items), and 15 to 5/min for everything else (some as low as 1 or 0.5/min). All in all <780/min

[sand spruce]

yeah that my currents problem XD i have a nice list but im stuck on rubber

30 rubber/min or 2 rubber/min for storage

[sterile blade]

Meh, you barely need any...
2/min is fine imo (just annoying for the first few milestones)

[silk ocean]

Sometimes I get through an enormous amount of materials - thousands of wire for example, if building a battery storage array, closer to 10,000 wire. So 30/min just doesn't even get close. I'm probably about 240/min on items like that

[sand spruce]

yeah thats what i was thinking

[sand spruce]

and the excess residual into coal into sink

[silk ocean]

Nothing worse than half way through a build and you run out and you're watching it tick up.. 1...2...3... xD

[sterile blade]

Having enough stored can suffice. Ie: if you consume 1000 wire/min while building, for one hour, you won't consume more than 120 stacks of Wire (less than 3 ISC). For the rest of the time, your wire consumption will be little over 0/min, so the containers can refill with ease

[silk ocean]

That is true yea, it's bursty in nature. These are times when you deplete all of the storage and still need more XD

[sand spruce]

yeah but u can do soemthing els while storage fills up again luckly

[silk ocean]

That's usually what happens yep 😄

[sterile blade]

Experience allows you to minimize the throughput by adjusting the number of storages to your specific needs ^^

[silk ocean]

Yea I have a lot more storage for things like that

[sand spruce]

im just using 1 idnustrial container for each item now XD

but im only in tier 5 XD

[silk ocean]

1 industrial is plenty for most stuff

[sterile blade]

Tbh, I still manually grab ~10 stacks each of Concrete and other high-use items before going to build big projects 😅

[dense turtle]

can soemoen take a look?#1401328304237182996 message

[sand spruce]

Yeah imma stick to this list : concrete, iron plates, plastic, reinforced iron plates, steel beams, encased industrial beams, Alclad sheets, silica, quartz crystal, steel pipes, copper sheets, wire, cable, iron rods, quickwire. for 30/min storage. everythign els will be 2

[silk ocean]

I was the same for a very long time until eventually getting tired of crossing the world to get more stacks XD

[shy mulch]

I've found myself running dry on concrete, even with 4 dimensional depots, so my dd is filling up with 960/min. It's hard to overestimate in this game. If you've got too much of something, find a way to use more of it

[sterile blade]

Oh no, I just meant before leaving. Like, if I know I'll be building a lot, I grab ~10 stacks of each just to avoid round-trips (fingers crossed, ofc)

Much easier if I'm going to the building site on a vehicle

[shy mulch]

Just build more depots 😎

[silk ocean]

Yea, same.. I just never seemed to take enough stuff, or I couldn't fit any more of everything needed in inventory

[sterile blade]

Convince the doggos to drop Mercer Spheres too

[shy mulch]

There's more than enough mercer spheres around 🤓

[sterile blade]

Debatable xD

[violet moat]

hypertube?

[shy mulch]

Yes, and there is better again after that. I won't post spoilers though. Either wait and see, or look it up on the wiki

[silk ocean]

Something like 1500+ mercers at least.. better than 106 sloops

[violet moat]

Alrr thank u, also is a truck faster than walking barefeet

[shy mulch]

There are 298 mercer spheres

[sand spruce]

Somewhow bhopping is faster than any vehivcle XD

[hard ivy]

Not faster than a HT launcher tho

[silk ocean]

Oh! yeah... why did I think 1500+ lol

Going mad

Losing my marbles... mercers

[leaden turret]

Apparently Cohh prefers Satisfactory'saArachnophobia mode to the one in grounded 2 #off-topic-media message

[sterile blade]

BTW, remember not to dismantle your depots once in use!
#screenshots message

[finite mirage]

How do u find places to build?

U cant terraform like u can in minecraft

[sterile blade]

Looking around for places you like

[silk ocean]

Do it... do eeeet xD

[shy mulch]

Everywhere is a place to build

[dense turtle]

why does my train autopilot refuse to drive? i dont get any error

[sterile blade]

Don't try to fit other game's logic onto this one. Follow the tutorial and you'll be avoiding plenty of misunderstandings~

[finite mirage]

Do u build a foundation? How high should that be?

[shy mulch]

Usually yes, and whatever size you want

[reef basin]

based on which raw resources I need for that factory, I find a place where the nodes are nearby

[finite mirage]

Do u go to the skies or stay grounded?

[silk ocean]

I'd personally say it's best to build everything on foundations from as early in the game as possible, but it's personal preference ofc. Something nice about railways meandering through the terrain too I think

[reef basin]

no reason to go high

[finite mirage]

Ground, bumpy

[reef basin]

foundation, flat

[finite mirage]

Whats the world grid btw

[reef basin]

something I wouldn't recommend to use

[dense turtle]

i just dont get it how sometimes block signals work

and other times they are just looping

[finite mirage]

How high do u go? For the foundations

[silk ocean]

Kinda invisible grid that you can lock foundations to with CTRL key, so that no matter where you are you can have things aligned in the same direction

[reef basin]

1.1 introduced a bug, sometimes signal isn't registered properly and needs to be rebuild

[reef basin]

not at all

[finite mirage]

Then how is it flat?

Like not even a few meters?

[junior flower]

what kind of recipe should i go for on the turbofuel for the fuel generator?

[finite mirage]

Can u show me a ss perhaps?

[sterile blade]

Just build however high you like. So long as a foundation is above the ground, it provides a flat surface. The higher it is, the wider the surface before it hits the envoirment. How to deal with that is then up to you ("I wanna have a higher platform", "I wanna make another floor", "I wanna make another building"....)

[reef basin]

I build as low as I can. No reason to get higher

[finite mirage]

Is there a build height limit?

[sterile blade]

Yes. Something like more than 10x the highest place on the map

[finite mirage]

Oh ok

[violet moat]

oh ok

[silk ocean]

Crouchjump off a Mk.6 belt for added enjoyment and performance xD

[cursive crane]

There are free ways to host, I use WGSM, but you can just host through steam

[sterile blade]

Excluding hypertubes (they are also in the "vehicle" category)

[dense turtle]

yeah cannon is so good

[hard ivy]

either default or don't bother making it at all.
hell, if you have the oil to supply all your power with regular fuel, there's little reason to make it in the first place

[dense turtle]

bro hunting mercer spheres pmo

[cursive crane]

you using the scanner?

[dense turtle]

yeah

[cursive crane]

if you really dont mind it, scim is good for it

[junior flower]

i will upgrade it to rocket fuel. so just go default?

[hard ivy]

upgrading a turbo fuel plant to a rocket fuel one is a questionable decision tbh

upgrading from regular fuel, on the other hand, is a decent idea, if it's in the right place

use https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production to check what makes sense in your situation

[junior flower]

so go for nitro rocket fuel recipe is the best?

[dense turtle]

rocket fuel? nitro fuel?

[shy mulch]

I make it for turbo diamonds

[hard ivy]

it's not "the best". but it can be upgraded from fuel.
but upgrading from turbo into regular rocket isn't a great idea
however, setting up a default RF plant from scratch, is

[silk ocean]

I built a rocket fuel plant but mostly just because I needed rocket fuel to complete the sulphur tree xD Took a day to build the entire nitric acid plant so otherwise probably would have stuck with turbofuel XD

[dense turtle]

when do i unlock rocket fuel?

[hard ivy]

they're asking about for power specifically soo...

[hard ivy]

MAM sulfur tree

you need tier 8 for the empty fluid tanks

[dense turtle]

so

if i only got normal fuel should i go for rocket?

[hard ivy]

rocket is a great source of power

both recipes for it tbh

you just have to use Heavy Oil Residue and Diluted Fuel for the fuel

and for default rocket, you need to choose some way to make TF for it

[dense turtle]

TF?

[hard ivy]

turbofuel

[dense turtle]

the fuk

ahh so i should upgrade to nitro or just go for rocket right away

[hard ivy]

i mean there are benefits and drawbacks to both rocket fuel recipes

so choose one that's better for your use case

nitro is more expensive overall, but much easier to set up

[dense turtle]

i dont have either unlocked

[hard ivy]

you need default rocket fuel unlocked to unlock the nitro alt for it

[mystic panther]

When transporting 600 iron ore into smelters, is there any point in doing an even splits with belts and splitters?
Or can i put two rows of 10 smelters with 1 belt and manifold, and then the max capacity startup time will just be longer?

[winged walrus]

wuh

[cursive crane]

the only difference between manifold and balancer is whether or not you are willing to wait, provided you are putting enough into it to fill the machines, and have high enough belts to support it

[dense turtle]

might as well setup sulfur now

[hard ivy]

if you have a belt that can handle 600, a manifold will work just fine. it will take a while to fill up, but you can do something else in the meantime

[shy mulch]

Oh, I didn't get the context 😎

[dense turtle]

do i need sulfur for any of the fuels?

[hard ivy]

you need it for both turbo and rocket

[cursive crane]

sidenote if you arent familiar with the terms, theres some wonderful videos on it on youtube. just search "satisfactory manifold vs balancer"

[stable warren]

OMG i can finally play satisfactory again after a week 😭

[dense turtle]

100 bomboclat power shards????

[dense turtle]

what about ionized

oh wait

tier 8 right, im not tier 8 so do u think its worth it to go for nitro now?

[hard ivy]

Except when you do that, you'll find people who shit on balancers for no other reason than because they've heard other people shitting on them (for the same reason)

Balancers have their place, but it's not feeding machines

But people insist on using them exclusively for that

[dense turtle]

i mean turbo

[stable warren]

Alr i gotta ask this, so i power up 4 coal generators with my biomass gens, but i want to make it so the coal generators power eachother and other stuff, anyone could help me maybe?

[cursive crane]

eh, if its your save, do what you want

[hard ivy]

The only advantage turbofuel has over fuel is oil efficiency. Unless you specifically need that, and don't care about anything else, turbo is just meh

[dense turtle]

so i wont get more power?

or i mean yeah i guess i could use one node for more fuel power plants

but then i need to bother creating a train to get coal and sulfur

[hard ivy]

You will get more power per oil. At the cost of a ton of sulfur and coal

So if you have oil available, use fuel - it's easier

[junior flower]

how does autoconnect work on blueprints? i put it in autoconnect option but pipes and belts dont connect

[dense turtle]

huh

i think something is wrong, my power usage is 900MW

[hard ivy]

Sure, but to me comparing manifolds and balancers is like comparing trucks and ships (irl). Sure, both transport cargo, but you'd rarely end up in a situation where you're comparing them for use on the same cargo

[dense turtle]

okay i just realised i had 2 different power systems

i connected it to one

went from 900 MW usage 2000 production to 4000 and 7000

[hard ivy]

You need short belts/pipes sticking out of splitters/mergers/junctions/machines for the AC to work

[junior flower]

thank you. that worked

[stable warren]

hell ye coal generators are working, gotta make it so it fuels everything i have lol

[unkempt blade]

if you're not doing a truck stop manifold you're moving cargo wrong

you just need to wait for your truck stops to saturate

[silk ocean]

I finally got 2 trucks working and then promptly moved to trains XD

[stable warren]

oml this is so confusingggg im tryna get coal energy and now to power my other stuff for coal gens are getting no power cus my fuse blowww out bruh i need more biomass

[silk ocean]

Power is a pain until you get coal yea

[stable warren]

i have everything for it its just i connect biomassa to the generators, but i want so the coal generators power eachother and other stuff.

[silk ocean]

You're like 50% factory builder, 50% gardener

[stable warren]

you know anything to make my life easier doing this thing

so i can make the coal generators power everything without biomass

[unkempt blade]

you can math out a power network that only power the coal and water extractors and send the rest to the main network if you want to mistake proof it for the future

[silk ocean]

Yea, build the water extractors, generators, ideally near coal, miner+belts for the coal into the generators, set it all up, connect the power to your network, and they should be self sustaining. Then you can throw the biomass burners in the scrapyard XD

[stable warren]

hmm i'll try

[round skiff]

can you edit the position of elevator buttons

[finite mirage]

Im in tier 5, i have around 2kW of power available normal fuel, should i invest in a more powerful plant or is the next energy milestone soon? For reference i spent maybe an hour or two setting up coal power when i unlocked it and never had to worry about power again

[wheat parcel]

i need someone to really help me in my factory.
when i unlocked all the oil stuff for power i kinda deleted my main factory which was making basically everything pre phase 2, which i did cuz i thought i can rebuild everything in an organised way which i just relised that i dont know what im doing and i fucked my self pretty bad 😔

so now im really lost and overwhelmed and its making me lose intrest in the world which i really dont wanna leave

[dense turtle]

how do i check how much power my machine consumes when charged with shards

it says 15MW no matter how many i put in

[hard ivy]

it has to run one cycle to show accurate values

[dense turtle]

oh aight

[hard ivy]

you can calculate it too if you want

[dense turtle]

but is it just 200% then twice the power?

[hard ivy]

no

it's 2.5x more power

[sterile blade]

Iirc, a machine at 250% takes little less than 1.5x the power of 2 machines at 100% and one at 50%

[hard ivy]

it's almost exactly 40% more by my math

[finite mirage]

#screenshots message

what exactly does this give?

[hard ivy]

synthetic power shards...

[finite mirage]

which is?

[hard ivy]

a recipe for shards without slugs

[finite mirage]

automable power shards?

[shy mulch]

The clue is in the name

[keen oriole]

If you just start again it will be way easier faster and end up more organized the second time. Just start by building a little area that holds or provides everything you need to start building, as little personal base, and then begin working on a factor to replace the messy beginning tier stuff u had.

Or revert to a earlier save?

[finite mirage]

is there a website to compute divisions via splitters? like i need to split 480 into 300 and 180

[hard ivy]

1 splitter can do that

if you just connect it to sets of machines that consume 300 and 180

[frail sleet]

Alternatively, make a priority splitter that will fill a 120 and a 60 belt while passing overflow onwards, then merge those. That doesn't rely on rate control at the destination.

[true mulch]

surprisingly true statement from someone with "I ❤️ balancers" in their title

[finite mirage]

i only have normal splitter

[shy mulch]

You're overthinking it. You almost never need to do calculations like that

[frail sleet]

if you have 480 belts then go get the proper splitter

[hard ivy]

1. I use balancers where appropriate, and not shove them in everywhere
2. that wouldn't even be a balancer

[true mulch]

I guess I consider ratio splitters and balancers the same thing

[dusky pelican]

So I need to start rmaking computers, which require oil and copper (I do not have any alts). It's better to ship the copper to the oil, rather than the reverse, right

[finite mirage]

which stage do unlock the fancy splitters?

[frail sleet]

any stage, just need a bit of caterium

[true mulch]

smart splitters can be unlocked as soon as in tier 2

[keen oriole]

If you check the tool pages on the wiki then yeah there is such a tool I think I haven't used it but the description seem to describe exactly the same thing you are

[hard ivy]

*caterium

[frail sleet]

ty 😄

[hard ivy]

quartz is for piro mergers

[shy mulch]

Smart splitters just let you choose to send different materials out each output. You don't choose the amounts. You never need to

[frail sleet]

you can choose the amount though via belt speed

[keen oriole]

https://icemoonmagic.github.io/Satisfactory-Splitter-Calculator/
A tool for calculating a precise item/min value to be split. For example, if you want 390 items/min from a production of 870, the tool will tell you how to arrange splitters and mergers to obtain this result. Can also be used to create balancers.

[upbeat charm]

If you want to go a little complicate then go Max tier/tier 2 belts then go max tier/ tier 1 belt and merge tier 1 and 2 belts together

[shy mulch]

You don't even need to do that for what he's asking

[frail sleet]

you don't, but it's sometimes easier to

[true mulch]

how do you know about this tool, is it linked on the wiki?

[keen oriole]

Yep that's where I got this

[shy mulch]

Everyone is overthinking this. 480 going in to one regular splitter. 2 outputs, one needs 300 and one needs 180, it'll just work. No maths needed

[keen oriole]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Online_tools

[frail sleet]

If you throttle at the destination, yes, which is an option but not a given. There are also some options which immediately work, and some which only work to make that split after 5 minutes to 5 hours of time has passed (depending on the config)

[sterile blade]

It's almost like there is not just one single way to do things and people like to pitch their preferred one (or just list them all) ^^

[shy mulch]

Yes, true, I assumed the requirements were a throttle point which is generally the case in questions like this

[true mulch]

that's more math than "just use 1 splitter and let it run"

[shy mulch]

It's exactly "just use 1 splitter and let it run", I only added an explanation of the question alongside it

[finite mirage]

this is so handy

[reef basin]

eh, just do a manifold

[abstract forge]

is it new that ADA berates you when you kill bean? swear she didnt say anything in 1.0

[hard ivy]

it's really not. I have literally never ran into a situation where using anything this produced was the easiest solution
you're just overcomplicating it for little to no benefit

[shy mulch]

If you use it to solve issues like the one you asked about you're going to make more work for yourself than necessary. As was pointed out to me, if you want to do things a more complicated way that is your preference and completely fine

[unkempt blade]

The one true way is 480 in an outbound truck stop, 120 intake at the first truck stop, 60 at the second, and something mk4 or greater on the 3rd. Obviously with factory carts to move the items

[sterile blade]

Finally some common sense!

[finite mirage]

what is the simplest solution then? i still dont get it

[shy mulch]

One single normal splitter, done.

[unkempt blade]

That's not using nearly enough factory carts. That can't be the right answer

[finite mirage]

but that will halve the input instead of the 5:24 ratio i need

[shy mulch]

Is one of the outputs using exactly 300 and the other one using exactly 180?

[frail sleet]

The side which requires less will back up and it will eventually split as you want.. but it will take time - the belts and all of the machine buffers must fill before it works, which would typically take somewhere between 10 minutes to a few hours. It will also only work correctly if you're not trying to consume more than you actually want to go that way, because that would stop it from backing up properly.

If those conditions are fulfilled, it's a pretty efficient way to do things.

[sterile blade]

Using calculation tools to solve the simplest logistical problems is like using a calculator while someone is trying to teach you additions: surely the results are correct, but...

[shy mulch]

They will be half and half until the one that's using 180 is full, then it'll only have space for 180 on that side, and it will just sort itself out

[finite mirage]

#screenshots message
this

[shy mulch]

This all becomes very simple and intuitive after you've done it yourself once. Just once. This is the danger of asking things before trying it

[shy mulch]

Yes, it'll be absolutely fine

[unkempt blade]

it's pretty easy to set up some experiments and just send all the outputs to different storage to see how different ways work

[shy mulch]

Just try it and you'll see and it'll make sense, it'll be a lot quicker than trying to understand 40 different explanations

[finite mirage]

alright

[upbeat charm]

Man I want to be good at building stuff

[unkempt blade]

and then when you're ready to devote your life to a higher calling throw everything you learned away and start using factory carts instead

[unkempt blade]

you're amazing and talented and I believe in you, just keep practicing and look at #screenshots now and then for inspiration

[upbeat charm]

Can someone help explain conveyor belts on foundation things? I try to put multiple lane of conveyer belts on foundation but after a few turns it just stop getting straight?

[sterile blade]

Just don't get depressed in comparisons!

[shy mulch]

Honestly I never use factory carts but I'm tempted to try and integrate some into my megafactory just for you

[hard ivy]

straight mode is unofortunately gay

[upbeat charm]

It looks good though

[hard ivy]

use it only when stretching between existing connections

[unkempt blade]

next save I do I'm going to *really overuse them instead of just kind of overuse them like I do now

[hard ivy]

the pole it places automatically is often a few degrees off straight

[onyx halo]

I was today years old when I realised stacking machines was much tider

[unkempt blade]

yeah just have to remember that getting good at something takes practice for everyone and just because you're starting later than them doesn't mean you can't get there too

[shy mulch]

I'm at 1100 hours and still got lots to learn. There's no end in sight!

[upbeat charm]

Is there a merged ramp in Awesome shop?

Ramp for corner

[unkempt blade]

there should be a set that includes those

[acoustic shell]

GUYS IM FINALLY ABOUT OT GET PHASE 3

[upbeat charm]

clap clap clap clap clap*

[acoustic shell]

first time getting to it at all I think, unless I was in a multi and they got there and I had no clue

[upbeat charm]

I'm still conveyor belting my coal into iron

[shy mulch]

Go smash those fuel generators

[acoustic shell]

I just set up the 100 adaptive control unit manufacter, with sloops

and I get to go to cheesecake factory today

and I am having a friend over

holy 3 in one

[shy mulch]

Glad you're having fun

[dusky pelican]

How do you hook up raw inputs (oil and copper) into a computer factory. My first thought is to put the factory close to oil and then use trains to haul over copper ingots

Cooper and oil are like 2km away at the spot I’m looking at

[acoustic shell]

what I did was actually make the plastic first, then route it to the factory, for the copper it would be a little better to route conveyers but it does seem far to ig do trains

[upbeat charm]

What are your guys preferred method of building processing building when node near hill?

[acoustic shell]

make plastic first so then you only have to transport solids

[dusky pelican]

So just a really long belt? Or are you saying to put the plastic on trains

I have never used trains, ever. Maybe I should just go experiment

[unkempt blade]

steer my skyroad in that direction then build a factory under the skyroad near the node

[acoustic shell]

put plastic and copper on trains if you prefer

my computer factory is set up with a copper node like 700m away and I just conveyered it over, but its up to you completely, just note that the math will be different due to the trains timing

[violet moat]

god bless overclocking

best thing ever

[dusky pelican]

Yeah I am scared of getting into train timing and all that haha

[acoustic shell]

realistically, you could just like hard overclock stuff so you over produce and not have to worry

[violet moat]

im earlygame/doing phase 2 rn and making 72 coal gens, i can overclock without a worry with all that power fr

[acoustic shell]

72?

dawg I have like 24 and then I realized fuel gens are op

[violet moat]

yaa, yk the lake in the west?
i got 4 mk2 miners there

[violet moat]

i dont have fuel gens yet tho

[unkempt blade]

I agree, slugs really are a miracle that only an omnipotent and merciful creator could have designed

[violet moat]

all overclocked so they produce 270/m

[violet moat]

HAHAHAHA

[acoustic shell]

fuel gens make 250mw for 20ml/m fuel, and fuel can be made with a byprodut of plastic and rubber

so your normal oil set up can get you a good 500mw ish extra free

[violet moat]

Okay i'll set that up too later when i'm in phase 2!

or phase 3, idk when that gets unlocked im new

[upbeat charm]

Feels like I used too many Ramps before reaching the flat ground instead of stacking foundation and use conveyor lift

[acoustic shell]

like in my computer factory I just have a fuel generator running off of the fuel I can make from the heavy oil byproduct when makeing plastic

[unkempt blade]

if there's a slope where I want to build I wind up with a "basement" a lot - sometimes it's just unused and sometimes I route some of my conveyors through the floor and use it

[acoustic shell]

its phase 2, it unlocks in the same tier as oil which is 5

I lwk dont know whats in phase 3 yet but I find out real soon

I believe its nuclear and aluminium or smthing

[violet moat]

ohh okay

idrc about spoilers but other people might see

[acoustic shell]

lwk it takes like 5 hours to get there its not like uncommon info

[unkempt blade]

that's more of phase 4, phase 3 is like oil products and a bunch of logistics stuff like trains

[acoustic shell]

t7 and t8?

but 5 and 6 is trains and oil

[unkempt blade]

p1 = t1,2 p2=t3,4 etc.

[acoustic shell]

oh mb

so im getting onto phase 4

[acoustic shell]

so ig it is phase 3, t5 and t6

[idle pollen]

Theres t0, t1, t2 which finishes in p1 which then unlocks t3 and t4, so on and so forth until p5 finishes the game

[junior flower]

does ionized fuel require power shards?

[idle pollen]

So t5 and 6 are called phase 3 because that’s what your working towards, which then unlocks the next tiers

[idle pollen]

The default recipe does

But theres an alternate recipe in the converter which uses dark matter crystals instead of power shards, albeit less ionized fuel per rocket fuel

[junior flower]

is the shards used as a recipe?

[violet moat]

hey guys, to power up 72 coal gens, should i use 27 normal water extractors, or 11 overclocked water extractors to keep it less messy?
considering i have inf amount of power shards

[idle pollen]

Yes

[junior flower]

ok thanks

[violet moat]

and btw im using the lake in thr west which has 4 coal nodes around it

[idle pollen]

The blue crater lake?

[violet moat]

nah, the one with the waterfall

#screenshots ill show u

[idle pollen]

I know the one

[wet fox]

Going into tier 6, what should my output be looking for things like motors, modular frames etc.? Trying to figure out if I should focus on upping my output to prep for elevator parts first before I get my train setup going and start building a new main hub further east from Rocky desert

[idle pollen]

Yeah overclock if you want

[violet moat]

so, should i use 27 water extractors? do u think they will fit? would it be too messy?

[idle pollen]

It’s a big lake anyway

[violet moat]

imma use 3 water extractors underclocked to 75% each, so i can get more net power from the entire factory

75% so it can all fit in one pipeline

[granite wharf]

Guys, does anyone know when satisfactory is gonna be released on ps5

[wheat parcel]

i did the latter

[acoustic shell]

2 days from yesterday until next week last year

[idle pollen]

Soon ™

Sometime this year (hopefully)

[acoustic shell]

some time this 👍

[idle pollen]

Sometime before the heat death of the universe

[acoustic shell]

possibly

[idle pollen]

It will release at a time (no promises)

[acoustic shell]

it might be made

[placid stirrup]

In four score and seven years

[granite wharf]

I can’t wait

[placid stirrup]

Chat looks like the Narnian army

[idle pollen]

Sometime after the release of the game

[placid stirrup]

You ruined it

[acoustic shell]

yes you can

[granite wharf]

I used to have it on my laptop, but then I got a new one and i don’t think it’ll be able to run this game

[acoustic shell]

use geforce now

thats lwk what I used to use

[granite wharf]

What’s that

[acoustic shell]

good remote play to a crazy good pc

by nvidia

[shy mulch]

Obtain money. Use money to buy better computer. Play games

[granite wharf]

Oh sick

[granite wharf]

Thanks bud

So it definitely is coming to ps5

[acoustic shell]

the free version let you play for an hour, but you can just reque and play another hour infinitly

[granite wharf]

Coz I wanna play it again

[acoustic shell]

or pay and play for however long unless it had like a 8 hour cap

[granite wharf]

I have the game

[acoustic shell]

the remote play I mean

[granite wharf]

Oh

[hexed belfry]

A

[granite wharf]

B

[idle pollen]

A

Jokes aside, I’m pretty sure the game is already wishlistable on Xbox and PS, so it probably wont be TOO long until release

Maybe

Also on the topic of consoles, have coffee stain said anything about crossplay?

[keen oriole]

The wiki said that there will be cross play between consoles but not between console and PC

[shy mulch]

@silk ocean what number are you expecting, and is it reduced by being blocked on the output, or lack of input?

[copper pine]

is 72k MW of power good?

[silk ocean]

Doesn't appear to be blocked on the output, in fact ideally the output could use some more, it seems to be the flow rate coming in from the station but I can't see any other blockages

[shy mulch]

Depends what you're using. It's usually sensible to produce about twice as much power as you need so you've got plenty headroom to increase pradection if needed

[copper pine]

I use 12k mw

[copper pine]

15k

[shy mulch]

How much is going into the station?

[placid stirrup]

*GW

[shy mulch]

You've got plenty then, until you need more

[silk ocean]

Certainly enough that it's usually about half-full

[elder valley]

hi guys my game crashed and it says "pure virtual function being called"

[copper pine]

nah I gotta finish my rocket fuel gen farm I have six floors with 10 gen on each

for now

[elder valley]

it was after i looted 2 hard drives and it was the second time it happened cus i had to go get the drives again

and then i died after asw

[peak wasp]

hi all!

can help me to set the path signals ?

i want share a screenshot but i can't , right?

[shy mulch]

The number on the display is an average over the last minute. Maybe it stops for a moment if the station is empty, or unloading, even if briefly that will bring the average down

[hard ivy]

#1038092680493801533

[peak wasp]

thanks :3

[silk ocean]

I've been watching it for a while, there don't seem to be any gaps.. It's a bit strange, I'm sure there is a reason somewhere xD

It sometimes blips to 898

[slow kindle]

just crafted my first ever nuclear power plant

What do I do with uranium waste?

[hard ivy]

store it or convert to plutonium rods

[shy mulch]

So the station always has some stock and is unloading directly into that splitter? It should go at the speed of your belts

[placid stirrup]

There's also 64x10^7 posts on signals there, one may have a solution to your issue

[slow kindle]

!wikisearch plutonium

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=plutonium

[slow kindle]

@hard ivy I don't see a recipe using the waste here..

(Also 5k production holy)

[peak wasp]

i create the issue and now i find ^^ the problem was on my rayway route i not udnerstand why not work ^^"

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch non-fissile+uranium

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=non-fissile+uranium

[slow kindle]

getting non fissle uranium is so ahhh

[silk ocean]

Yea I think you are probably right, station does have brief periods of emptyness xD

[slow kindle]

Then I craft Plutonium Pellet and do what?

[acoustic shell]

How much heavy mod frames should I be making

Base 2/m feels really slow

[hard ivy]

then plutonium cells then plutonium rods. plutonium rods can then be burned (which will create plutonium waste, but very little) or put into the awesome sink, permanently getting rid of the waste

[slow kindle]

Is it really worh all that trouble? getting the non fissle uranium seems so complicated 😭

[shy mulch]

That'll likely be it then. You can press E on a conveyor monitor to see a graph of recent throughput which is handy to see if there's gaps

[hard ivy]

I mean I'd say all of nuclear is generally not worth the trouble, even uranium

[burnt ferry]

its not THAT slow actually... as long as it is steady.. i had only one heavymod frame manufacturer (slopped) until phase 4

[shadow isle]

Hear me out: stackable production buildings
Like you can stack storage containers, on top of each other

[silk ocean]

Oh thanks I didn't know that

[burnt ferry]

lock ghost with h

[slow kindle]

If I sink the waste, will it effect me that much?

[shadow isle]

What

[burnt ferry]

allows most buildings to be built floating

[shy mulch]

I'm way post-endgame and I'm making 13/min, which is way more than necessary for normal gameplay

[shy mulch]

You can't sink nuclear waste

[acoustic shell]

Cuz I just got phase 4 so now I gotta wait like an hour to unlock the baux

[shadow isle]

But that wouldn't look satisfactory!

[hard ivy]

if you're generating uranium waste, you kinda have to do something about it. uranium makes a lot more waste than plutonium, so it's more effort to store uranium waste than it is plutonium waste. plus burning plutonium generates power too

sinking plutonium is a bit complicated and expensive for what it gives you, but it's a permanent solution, requiring 0 maintenance, nor does it cause radiation to keep growing.

[slow kindle]

So I should craft pellet, cells, rods, and then burn the rods?

[burnt ferry]

#screenshots message

[shy mulch]

An hour isn't long, there are plenty other things you could be doing while you wait for that

[silk ocean]

When it's flowing at full speed, i.e. station full, it still seems to cap out at about 898

[elder valley]

do you have to manually press save game everytime you leave the game?

[slow kindle]

Theres autosaves

[silk ocean]

I put another SS to illustrate.. it must be the output I guess

[elder valley]

yeah but its like every 5 mins

[shy mulch]

Put a storage immediately after the station output before it goes into anything else and put a monitor before and after the storage. If the output of the storage is higher than the input, then the bottleneck is your machines only using 898

[shy mulch]

If that's not often enough for you then you can change it

[elder valley]

oh i see

what do you have it set as

[silk ocean]

Yea I'll go do that, this SS is just beyond that monitor, it doesn't seem belt constrained but it is a splitter there

[burnt ferry]

15 minutes

[shy mulch]

I left it at the default of 5 minutes. Never been an issue for me

[burnt ferry]

defaults 10, no?

[hard ivy]

depends what you want. some people don't even want to think about storing waste, some don't care.

plutonium waste isn't particularly hard to store, especially because even 1TW nuclear setups only require 1 container every 2 hours, which is absolutely manageable (meanwhile, an equivalent uranium-only setup would require a container every 5-10 minutes)

sinking plutonium means you don't get the power you'd get from burning it, but if you don't need it, then that means you don't have to set up the extra reactors or the waste storage

if you're gonna burn plutonium, consider using alts. they'll give you more plut rods for the same amount of uranium waste. if you're sinking them, use all defaults for the entire uranium waste -> plutonium rods chain

[burnt ferry]

rather built tons of fuel generators 😂

[slow kindle]

If I do plan to sink it, can I sink the pellets/cells instead?

[hard ivy]

no. uranium waste, non-fissile uranium, plutonium pellets and plutonium cells are not sinkable

[slow kindle]

Alr, so just rods

[burnt ferry]

i would avoid sinking in power generation production chains at all costs anyway as the sink is rather power hungry

[slow kindle]

Getting all of this for sinking is so complicated

@hard ivy How much waste does plutonium make?

[hard ivy]

welcome to nuclear 🙃

I haven't even told you about ficsonium yet

[hard ivy]

10 per rod

[toxic spruce]

Whats the best way to use uranium waste? Rn i just store it in a giant warehouse

[burnt ferry]

i even use underclocked water extractors for coal

[hard ivy]

compared to 50 per rod of uranium

plus plutonium rods give twice as much power

so 10x less waste per MW

[slow kindle]

And then what I can do with it?

[burnt ferry]

isnt there a chain to fully use the waste insted of storing it` until the game breaks?

[placid stirrup]

The only way to process it is with plutonium rods.

[hard ivy]

either store it or turn it into ficsonium (ficsonium is tier 9 tho and expensive)

[slow kindle]

I'll prob be using the plutonuim for power because all of this effort for sinking is so ah

[slow kindle]

What's ficsonium

[hard ivy]

3rd fuel rod. made from plutonium waste. doesn't make waste when burned

[placid stirrup]

Drones can use plutonium but they will be irradiated

[sterile blade]

And then they mutate

[slow kindle]

I'll use the plutonimum to do power and then store the waste, and when time comes ill use it for ficsonium

[burnt ferry]

weredrones

depart at full moon

dont transport silver

or garlic

[slow kindle]

@hard ivy Is there a way to get the fissled uranium without unlocking a tier 9 thing

[hard ivy]

non-fissile uranium is a tier 8 item

ficsonium is exclusively tier 9

[burnt ferry]

why bother with uranium pre tier 9? 😂

[slow kindle]

But you have to get the nictric acid, which is tier 9

[hard ivy]

it's tier 8

!wikisearch nitric+acid

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=nitric+acid

[placid stirrup]

Citric acid is more efficient

[hard ivy]

unlocked with plutonium, actually

i thought i's mid T8, but it's the end of T8

[slow kindle]

holy shi 😭

so much stuff to get

def getting into the fun phases now tho

[hard ivy]

make sure you use alts. if not for the nuclear stuff, at least for the other ingredients

they can make a lot of difference

[slow kindle]

I got a really good alt yesterday

A flexible heavy frame

I use it now and it's really good compared to the default

[burnt ferry]

encased

[hard ivy]

I wouldn't consider that good

[slow kindle]

def better than the default

[burnt ferry]

rubber is better put onto adhered plates

[hard ivy]

better than default, sure. but still much worse than encased

[reef basin]

don't get talked out of using what you like

[burnt ferry]

i consider the discussion about the statement 'very good alt' not if anyone uses it ornot.

[slow kindle]

Well I don't have encased now... and I need rubber flowing otherwise half of my fuel is stopped cuz the refiniers will stop producing oil

[hard ivy]

you can sink the rubber

[reef basin]

same thing - "good" is subjective

[hard ivy]

• there are alts that wouldn't require that either

[slow kindle]

I sink half of it

Anyways when I get encased I might use it , for now I'm using the flexible cuz its better than default

[burnt ferry]

not necesssarily there is objective as well as subjective properties to it

depending on what is supposed to be 'good' or 'bad'

[reef basin]

you can objectively decide if a recipe path is e.g. more resource or power intensive than a different recipe path

you can't do that for single recipes and you can't use it for "good" or "bad" ranking

[burnt ferry]

shrug

[hard ivy]

default HMF really baffles me. it was shit before 1.0, and they made it even more expensive

[burnt ferry]

encased > flexible 👹

[slow kindle]

It's a personal prefrence so no point to fight about it

[burnt ferry]

all frames just exist to annoy the player 😂

[slow kindle]

@hard ivy getting non fissle uranium is not fun at all 😭

[hard ivy]

I like making HEF

[burnt ferry]

im joking.. you dont even have the choice if you dont have the other recipe yet..

i dedicated phase 1-3 to scoiuting and farming

[burnt ferry]

ye.. its something concrete, not arbitrary

[slow kindle]

I think I played phase 1-3 really wrong, and now in phase 4 im kinda correcting myself

[burnt ferry]

👹

[ashen belfry]

I played phase 1 til 9 completely wrong lol

[abstract forge]

are there any planners that support mods/modded recipes, OTHER than satisfactory calculator?

[hard ivy]

satisfactory tools if you're willing to host an instance yourself (ask greeny for instructions, they're the author)

or use Satisfactory Optimizer
(https://github.com/Zistack/Satisfactory-Optimizer)
It is text-only (no GUI), but you can just type in any recipe you want

[abstract forge]

tempting to go the tools way, but i think thats a bit above my brain grade either way lol

[hard ivy]

optimizer does require some setup too

it is just a python script so you have to be able to run python

but yeah, I'm pretty sure Tools will be even harder to set up

[gilded goblet]

whats a good alum/min number

just hit phase 4

[abstract forge]

screw it
i'll do the math in my head
it will be wrong but oh well

[burnt ferry]

use claude

[abstract forge]

no, i dont think i will

[reef basin]

depends on skill level of the person

[hard ivy]

I mean I have no clue what it takes to self-host Tools, But I'm assuming it's harder than just installing Pycharm or w/e

[burnt ferry]

necessariliy is... running tools invovles several interpreter calls at the level of a simple python script tool

[reef basin]

pycharm is an IDE

and depends on what you want to run, Tools can be very easy as well

[hard ivy]

and? I'm running optimizer from pycharm, and I didn't even need to install python separately. it just installed it for me

[reef basin]

the same way you could install phpstorm and get built-in webserver for php 🤷
but that's not what I would consider "self-hosting"

[hard ivy]

I mean we're talking about whatever's required to use custom recipes

so whatever that is for Tools

[lost wagon]

is pipe junction snapping to the machine a vanilla thing? I can't tell anymore

[hard ivy]

directly to a machine's input/output? no

[lost wagon]

then it's probably snapon doing it

[abstract forge]

hmm, seemingly theres a mod that adds an ingame planner, guess i'll try that lol

[twilit osprey]

herro!

[shy mulch]

I'm eternally amused when people use mods to make things easier and it ends up solving one problem but causing another, that's just as bad as the one it solved

[lost wagon]

don't think an ingame planner would cause problem

[abstract forge]

tbh most of my mods make the game more complicated lol, not easier

[lost wagon]

same, I could've just put 700 coal/fuel generators by now instead of making modular generators from Refined Power

[abstract forge]

yup, why put down one gen when you can put down 6+ objects instead or just make a blueprint

[gilded goblet]

whats the total amount of "+6 inventory slots" you can get out of the mam

[hard ivy]

2

[gilded goblet]

oh sweet

I got one last night and I have a choice between plastic smart plating and the 2nd +6

and i've barely used any drives

[silk ocean]

Infused Uranium Cell looks like a pretty good alt

[lost wagon]

that's also part of what makes it complicated, CO2 going to the chimney you would expect on your design you but the chimney on the top floor, but the CO2 output is below the Steam Output, so you need to make some twisted pipes to have it go up lmao

or just be boring and go down

[hard ivy]

it is if you're making uranium cells

[silk ocean]

Yea

[abstract forge]

i actually managed to come up with a nice, neat pipework for my coal setup
then got completely screwed over when solution came along with different ratios for those two

[hard ivy]

it does eat through a ton of quickwire tho

[silk ocean]

I figured it's easier to make on-site / near-site, all the veins are available

There's a Pure Caterium not far away

[abstract forge]

oh fml
theres crashed freighter right in the middle of where i wanted to make my large scale modular frame factory
and i cant open that one until aluminium

[silk ocean]

Could go to some other crash sites and maybe there is some on the ground

[hard ivy]

unless it uses the superposition oscillator, you can almost definitely find whatever you need somewhere

[abstract forge]

needs 25 heatsinks
i feel like those could be in the swamp
but its the swamp

[shy mulch]

What are the requirements? A lot of things you can get earlier than you think by other ways

[silk ocean]

Spoiderz

[abstract forge]

scawy

dont even have a rifle yet

[shy mulch]

I'm sure there are heatsinks around some crash sites

[shy mulch]

If you're low on firepower avoid the swamp, unless you want to turn off enemy aggression

[gilded goblet]

Guys, Electrode Aluminum Scrap, or Sloppy Alumina

[abstract forge]

ye i know, this is like my 4th playthrough
just... didnt exactly keep track of random trash around crashed freighters lol

[reef basin]

which one you like more?

[shy mulch]

You can look it up on SCIM

[gilded goblet]

I'm asking which ones better, even tho I have 8 more drives to scan.

Both are good

[reef basin]

that depends on how you define "better"

[abstract forge]

wait you can see that on SCIM? where?

sorry wrong @

[gilded goblet]

all good

[abstract forge]

^

[hard ivy]

both

[gilded goblet]

fair enough

[shy mulch]

Just get it to highlight items that are on the ground

[gilded goblet]

I'll do sloppy alumina first

I need a few other aluminum alts tho so I'm scanning hella drives

[ionic mortar]

hello pioneers! i have just gotten into this game

[mortal ginkgo]

hi there co-worker, may you enjoy the growing factory

[silk ocean]

Get ready to sacrifice the next month XD

[ionic mortar]

i am dealing with power pole spagetti and enjoying it

[silk ocean]

Of all the spaghetti's I guess that is the least bad

(if you consider spag to be bad at all)

[abstract forge]

dunno, i think i'd rather eat some pasta than wire? might just be me?

[silk ocean]

Beats belts for dinner

[ionic mortar]

😂

[abstract forge]

probably depends which kind of belt tbh

mk6? spicy

[silk ocean]

Mk7 what a delicacy

Only available at the best secret restaurants

[abstract forge]

with enough mental gymnastics you could classify trains as belts tbh

[stable warren]

i just got coal energy up. yk what that means? reworking my factory to make more efficent factory!!

[cedar portal]

Why do Singularity cells have such a low sink value? It's better to sink the Pasta which is worth 5 times more.

[hard ivy]

...
1 pasta makes 10

[queen gale]

what is better: dismantle everything or start a new game?

[cedar portal]

Ahhh! You're right!

[grizzled basin]

I don't like re-colecting all of the artifacts and hard drives

[abstract forge]

you could "dismantle" big structures more easily with SCIM if youre not against that

[queen gale]

hmmm that's right indeed, I got quite far there

[silk rose]

starting new save is always good

[queen gale]

how would I do that?

[queen gale]

well, i saved the current game anyways

[cedar portal]

Depends which you like. I'm still playing the same save I started in 2019 so that tells you my opinion!

( I also didn't dismantle my starter factory, it just... evolved. )

[queen gale]

lol definetly xD

[cedar portal]

(( Maybe mutated out of control would be a more accurate term ))

[queen gale]

i am kinda unsatified how i arranged stuff

[grizzled basin]

#screenshots message

[visual cosmos]

huh

[queen gale]

started to play like Josh from Lets game it out for fun, but now I am noticing that it is not very efficient

[visual cosmos]

is it not possible to rebind controller controls

[cedar portal]

There you go. If you don't like it, rip it down and make it better. Starting over or tearing down though... dpends if you enjoy collecting all the things and doing all the unlocks again.

[queen gale]

oh cool thanks!!!!

[queen gale]

yup, decided for ripping it apart MUHAHAHAHHA

[grizzled basin]

save a backup

[queen gale]

i did

[cedar portal]

Now I have my own dilema. I started sinking my extra SIngularity Cells which is ncie as it boosts my ticket points from 116 million/min to 140 million/min but my sink graph is no longer perfectly flat. 😐

[queen gale]

also in memory for the messiness 😂

[grizzled basin]

I merged a few save files together this way when they didn't overlap xD

[queen gale]

lmaoooo

[visual cosmos]

flat better

[abstract forge]

scale up singularity cell production

[finite mirage]

how would one build 15 constructors? do i go up?

[abstract forge]

depends entirely what kind of space youre constricted by tbh

[hard ivy]

3 rows of 5? 2 rows of 8? 4 rows of 4?

[ionic mortar]

one line of 15 constructors

[grizzled basin]

I guess it depends on your belt speeds and recipe

[visual cosmos]

Imo just do stacks of 3, since a splitter can split into 3 easily

That's what I tend to do

[hard ivy]

tbh, this is the kind of dilemma I'd expect to have with 150, not 15

[visual cosmos]

I like vertical

[ionic mortar]

any advices for my first coupon purchases or should i ask that in another channel? i am not to familiar with discord servers

[visual cosmos]

I usually have splitter at the bottom 2 mergers in front of the 2 at higher points then just lifts bringing items directly into the mergers from the splitter

[abstract forge]

ladder
ladder
ladder will be the single most useful first purchase

[visual cosmos]

Depends on how much you have, but things like wall outlets are useful

[ionic mortar]

a whopping 6 coupons

[visual cosmos]

[grizzled basin]

I love the catwalks for first round

but I use them a lot

[ionic mortar]

catwalks and ladders

[hard ivy]

I usually buy floor holes first

[ionic mortar]

i will be stacked

[abstract forge]

but honestly, just look at all the options and buy as you need

dont be proactive, you can plop down a shop any time you need

[grizzled basin]

half foundations are nice, or concrete foundation material

[hard ivy]

I don't think there's a single time I've placed a half foundation

[visual cosmos]

Same here

And im on my third playthrough

[ionic mortar]

i might have to tear everything down once again

[visual cosmos]

[abstract forge]

they dont really have a use until you decorate tbh

[grizzled basin]

super useful for bespoke aesthetics but you don't need it really

[visual cosmos]

I did consider them for train support designs before but didnt use em

[ionic mortar]

yeah i am not at the decoration part yet lol, ty all for the advices tho

[abstract forge]

holy, trying to lead train tracks through the spire coast is pain

[true mulch]

Huh how so? There's plenty of room

[abstract forge]

im way too OCD about it

[hollow thunder]

hi, how do I auto connect pipes? I can't seem to get my blueprints to do it

[silk ocean]

It's a bit like trying to draw a stick-man when it comes to decoration with me

I can just about manage a different color per floor

[abstract forge]

i think both sides need to have a naked pipe (no junction or support at the end) that can merge, then make sure you're in auto connect mode when putting down the BP

[shy mulch]

That's a lot of singularity cells 😬

[shy mulch]

Go through the great canyon, it's literally there for that purpose

[hollow thunder]

ok that worked thanks

[cedar portal]

Making 200/min and only ussing maybe 100/min

[stable warren]

its so fun designing a new factory since i got even more power

[abstract forge]

ye thats the plan

[shy mulch]

Ooo. I'm didn't realise they gave so many sink points. I'm making 50 right now but working on an upgrade to my rail system so I can do 100

[ionic mortar]

I am now addicted to building machines, the call for building even more

[cedar portal]

I'm alsso slooping them, so only really making 100/min but get double, which makess them effectivleey worth twice as much

[stark shoal]

out of curiosity, i know the game unloads a lot of stuff outside of the immediate area for the player. how accurate is all of the prodution lines when unloaded? is it as accurate as when the production lines are fully loaded, especially for things like liquids?

[junior flower]

does ionize fuel consume the power chards?

[hard ivy]

Of course it does

[junior flower]

rip

[shy mulch]

It all works fine, it's a non-issue

[hard ivy]

That's one reason why it's a dogshit source of power

[junior flower]

i guess i will only use rocket power then

[shy mulch]

Shards are pretty easy to automate but it uses a lot of power relatively speaking, so there's almost no net gain if you are using ion for power, but it can be worthwhile for other uses like jetpack or some vehicles

[queen gale]

rebuilding everything after dismanteling is more fun than i expected ☝️ 🤓

[reef basin]

not dismantling everything and instead building another factory is even more fun

[shy mulch]

Why dismantle?

[willow glen]

I really only like to rebuild if I use alts, and I never tear down my old base anymore. Every time I tried that previously I’d run out of an essential material and have to hack together another quick build… basically rebuilding half of what I tore down.

[leaden ether]

Yeah I've dismantled and rebuild a couple of what were already fairly large factories and even the dismantling can be seen as type of construction job, saving some resources for reuse wile setting up a little sink "factory" to get rid of the rest. Then the new one comes out so much better in the end.

[reef basin]

yeah, no reason to dismantle at all

even a bad factory is still a factory

[leaden ether]

You dismantle because the stupidly inneficient design you used initially is sucking up a bunch of prime mats in a prime location.

ALso it might look like ass and you have better plans in mind.

[shy mulch]

The idea of saving resources while building is kinda nullified if you're automating everything

[violet moat]

Is it ok to build a 17 splitter long manifold line? if im getting the exact amount of resources to flow into the producing machine

[reef basin]

manifold is always fine

[leaden ether]

Not always!!! WHen I tore down my crappy phase 5 factory to rebuild it I needed to save a lot of the parts as I tore down the means to create them.

[violet moat]

Okk, ill just fill up the last few machines by myself

[abstract forge]

as long as your belt can handle it, its fine
the last few in the line will take a while to fill up though, unless you prime them manually first

[reef basin]

yeah, you can always speed it up by hand-feeding, but it will also stabilise on its own eventually

[violet moat]

okayy, also i used mk3 belts for literally everything it doesnt matter that much right

[leaden ether]

THe "You never need to tear down a factory" is simply an personal preference on how to play the game. As the original commenter said, it alone can be very satisfying to do and that is the entire reason we are playing the game.

[violet moat]

and yea rhe max amount of things flowing in are 270 so

[abstract forge]

then it should be fine

[violet moat]

but i also connected the machines with the splitters in mk3

i think i should make it mk1 actually..

so the other factories can fill up faster

[violet moat]

only the ones that connect splitter to the coal generator

[abstract forge]

long term it wont make difference, i wouldnt bother tbh

[violet moat]

Steel beam is a big problem for me rn icl

[queen gale]

Also did the dismantling manually and not via scim, it had something soothing to it hehe

[violet moat]

LMAO

[violet moat]

i dont use scim for it i do everuthing myself

[queen gale]

Was just checking out a tip I got earlier

[reef basin]

yeah, but many people don't realise how problematic it may get, and how many people burn out when doing exactly this. Hence why it's "not recommended"

[queen gale]

Also, my factory wasn't the biggest yet

[violet moat]

ohh ok

[cedar portal]

I like seeing my awful buildings I made years ago so I am reminded how much I've improved since then. Plus, nostalgia. Plus my factory has a "bad side of thr tracks" which gives it character.

[queen gale]

People also learn with progress how to make better factories, even when it started as some kind of self-trolling, so why not tear it down once in a while lol 😂

[fluid sapphire]

unless you are periodically deleting everything, sometimes deleting garbage doesnt take away from seeing progress that happens over time

[ionic mortar]

will i be okay building dedicated factories all over the place? im starting to have to run errands for the things i need

[fluid sapphire]

i will allow it, just this once

[shy mulch]

Then you were no longer automating them, so my statement doesn't apply to your situation

[marble cypress]

I have now decided to use blenders for fuel production instead of refineries

[ionic mortar]

chat i am cooked

[fluid sapphire]

we are just getting started

[quiet gust]

yes ( I have no idea what ur talking about)

[ionic mortar]

yeah its also my first save, i am just getting started building a village

[silk ocean]

I have an irrational fear of death.... from... trains... too much Factorio

[fluid sapphire]

they dont think about you at all

[noble stratus]

is the 5 steel to 50 screws recipe good?

[fluid sapphire]

screw haters unite

you can cut screws out entirely from your production lines, with alt recipes

[noble stratus]

f.

[fluid sapphire]

but screw lovers love steel screws

[noble stratus]

i correct. 5 metal

[noble stratus]

i was a bit imaptient then i guess

f.

[fluid sapphire]

cast screws

early game its good

[noble stratus]

didnt know the translation, but yes

[noble stratus]

im early. started new gamre

first one was in 2020

[fluid sapphire]

it helps simplify production lines, definitely good at the start

just remember that later, when screws inevitably start to annoy you, you have a way out

[split pewter]

cast screws are awesome

super slow production time (produce more per minute though) but they simplify things

[fluid sapphire]

long term its simpler not to make screws at all

[brisk stream]

#screenshots

who the fuck is sam

[fluid sapphire]

mr strange alien matter

[brisk stream]

who?

[fluid sapphire]

analyze it

[hard summit]

Hi everyone, do you feel stuttering when moving the mouse?

[fluid sapphire]

turn off mouse smoothing in gameplay options

[hard summit]

I closed it, and my new game has no problems.

I deleted a lot of signs, but it still doesn't work

[gilded goblet]

whats the max angle trains can go up or down

[willow glen]

Around 3m, so if you use 1m or 2m ramps you’ll be good. Also adding more locomotives can help

well they can go down infinitely, they will brake at 200kph

[gilded goblet]

like where the track doesn't say "too steep"

[willow glen]

oh of that I’m not entirely sure, I know you need about 7x7m to make a 90 degree turn tho.

[gilded goblet]

2m

[willow glen]

2-3m is the maximum slope they can climb without stalling ya. They can stall on 4m ramps

[gilded goblet]

ye

well it's more of I want to do the track without the "railroad too steep

Cuz I need to train over bauxite and quartz for my alum factory

[willow glen]

I usually start a 1m ramp from pretty far out, or parallel to the cliff side. Another option is spirals, but they increase distance by a significant amount over straight ramps

[rocky sandal]

hey should i go for quartz or caterium first, i was thinking quartz?

[fluid sapphire]

i use 2m ramps, takes less time to climb

[spring scaffold]

hello

[fluid sapphire]

both?

[rocky sandal]

well yeah but i can only do one first 😄

[spring scaffold]

both xD
quartz is my preference because of blade runners

if ur talking production lines it does not matter lol. depends on what you need

silica for windows, quickwire for computers.. it depends

[spring scaffold]

they CAN do short periods of 4m ramps with enough momentum

if they still let you place them on those. not sure

[brisk stream]

can i auto craft on crqafting bench and tab out

[finite mirage]

Is there a way to really lower the graphics, im too addicted to not play this on my trip and my laptop isnt that powerful

[finite mirage]

Tap the space bar (dont hold it)

[brisk stream]

tysm

[sterile blade]

You can't place rails on 4m slopes iirc, but you can "force" them to climb steeper if you add some 4m foundations between the 2m ones that you snap rails onto

[spring scaffold]

low resolution, foliage quality way down. most important things

and pick the lowest preset ofc

[finite mirage]

Intel uhd 730

Integrated giraffe

[spring scaffold]

welp good luck xD go play mindustry

[mild finch]

stream it :3

from your pc

well, you can't tp to your home and turn your pc on tbh, but for next trips, remember this

steam has a streaming service

[finite mirage]

Can i edit my save file to tp home? Or did the earth servers patch that?

[finite mirage]

Is it as addicting?

[mild finch]

that was patched sadly, and the respawn character button might or might not work, but there is no keep inventory

[spring scaffold]

For me no. But it’s just a different kind of game really

[ionic mortar]

how rare is a purple slug? i cant seem to find one

[spring scaffold]

There are a bunch. They’re usually protected or hidden quite well tho

[mild finch]

does the game even run at all?

[finite mirage]

On laptop? It should, theoretically

Its only a little worse than the minimum requirement

[mild finch]

bro, the uhd 730 is a lot worse than the minimum requirements