satisfactory

[twilit escarp]

doesnt mean i need to do the north part of the map right now

[tulip obsidian]

No one saw my stupid, so I’m gonna share it here, I’m finally upgrading my steel factory and I go “okay I wanna make 1920 steel ingots” so I plan everything out and I put 4 lines of 8 foundries…. Here’s the kicker, I calculate how much each line is gonna need and I go “oh that’s really not that much, steel is easy”.
Anyhow what I proceed to do is only input the raw resources needed for one line thinking that “I did the math” and “that’s all I need for the entire factory” and I spend 1 and a half hours trying to figure out what I did wrong and why it isn’t efficient

[night sparrow]

is the leached ingot recipe worth using in any case?

[white dawn]

If you've got some handy nearby sulfur and really want to stretch out your ore usage, then sure

(Though I think it's Leached Copper in particular which is technically less ore-efficient than the equivalent Pure; that one in particular is kind of difficult to jusitfy)

[tulip obsidian]

Add to that the fact that the math for the single line WAS WRONG, it’s actually what I needed for 1.5 of the lines, which makes adding more raw resources even more fucking difficult

[shy mulch]

I got lazy and asked chatgpt to read the wiki for me 😂 it obviously picked the wrong one. I should just look stuff up myself

[willow glen]

Gotta love being 4 operations deep and forgetting about the 4th lol. Done that plenty

[wicked nacelle]

the pure recipes make a lot more sense if you want to go big. sulfur is more valuable than for stretching common stuff. but there's plenty to just beat the game basically using any recipes

[white dawn]

Say it with me: LLMs don't know anything. They're just autocomplete. Trust anything from an LLM at your peril

[tulip obsidian]

I have so many regrets

[white dawn]

Also it probably didn't pick anything, it just hallucinated some answer based on unknowable sources on the internet and, as it's been programmed to do, sounded as authoritative as possible about it

[tulip obsidian]

My first thoughts were “I wanna make this factory look good before I start doing train infrastructure” yea it’s not a horrible mess and it doesn’t even work

An undo button would be very helpful in this game please and thank you

[fluid sapphire]

lol thats why you gotta make sure everything works first before starting decoration

[tulip obsidian]

I didn’t even start decorating I’m just a straight up idiot 💀

By beautiful I meant that it’s gonna be well organized

[wicked nacelle]

also, it's often easier to place trains first, as their infrastructure is so large. and I find it useful to plan for at least doubling your train infrastrucutre from what I first plan

[willow glen]

every time I build the walls prematurely it means I forgot some machines and need to tear them right back down to make it bigger

[shy mulch]

I very aware of that, I just get lazy, it's late

[tulip obsidian]

I needed a working steel factory before laying down tons and tons of tracks

[wicked nacelle]

oh I thought you meant just.. that factory's train infrastructure. yeah I get it now

[tulip obsidian]

And because I’m an absolute genius I tore down my old factory to build this one

[willow glen]

Well at least 1/4th of it works right? Time to box that part up

preferably also depot it

[tulip obsidian]

Actually, 1.5/4

And “it works” it still hitches because the concrete isn’t good enough for some reason

[stray loom]

Welcome to the club. We meet at 5pm on Tuesdays. Bring snacks and get to know people 😄

[dense bone]

a friend joins my game and his game keeps crashing

any way to fix it

[tulip obsidian]

Oh yea and because I laid it out thinking that “I’m a maths major there’s no way I did this math wrong” the output for the foundries isn’t balanced between all different parts of the assembly line, no no no, the last half is connected to beams and the first half is connected to pipes or some shit

And I just realized that while I was building it, I unlocked iron pipes, so I don’t even fking need this factory

[wicked nacelle]

iron pipes are dangerous to rely on if you're planning on expanding produciton ever. It's trivial to eat a pure node with pure ingots and not have nearly as many pipes as you want

[tulip obsidian]

It would skip the foundries ratio of 4:6 which is clearly something I struggle with

[wicked nacelle]

I don't know what there is to struggle with

give it some iron and give it some coal

[tulip obsidian]

See, you future proof your factories, I idiot proof my factories

[dense bone]

what do you mean by future proof

[tulip obsidian]

Easy to expand

[silk ocean]

If there is one thing I have learned (and still fail) when it comes to future proofing - if you think you have left enough room, double it.. You still haven't left enough room XD

[wicked nacelle]

I build in rows and don't block rows... so I can always just expand sideways. I don't plan for space at all, really

if I need to double production it just doubles the width of my factory

and then floors of rows

[shy mulch]

I build up. If I need to increase production I add another floor

[tulip obsidian]

That’s way too far ahead, first, I need it to work

[wicked nacelle]

I do tiers by floor.

[dusty jasper]

Is it normal for miners to be off sometimes by a few pixels? I am using world grid and I cant get a straight on conveyer

[wicked nacelle]

ingots on base, then like.. reinforced plate and frames on the next floor, etc

[tulip obsidian]

Yes

[wicked nacelle]

are you putting them on foundations?

[dusty jasper]

foundations on world grid

[stray loom]

Node locations aren't aligned to the world grid so yes

[wicked nacelle]

maybe just build a box around them so you can't see them 🙂

[blazing bane]

This is how i keep my eye from twitching

[fluid sapphire]

aside from boxing them in entirely, you can try to orient them so that the belt goes off at a 90 degree angle

[dusty jasper]

oh no its just something short but if I could make it straight I would

sometimes things are out of your power 🙂

[willow glen]

Sometimes nodes’s “mining box” or whatever is really tall, I know I have a limestone where it’s almost 0.5m above the top of the limestone. I covered it all with concrete and the miner is still raised lol

[obtuse yoke]

my game keeps crashing despite having a system that exceeds the minium requirements and setting the game to LOW settings does anyone have a clue whats going on or can direct me to someone who does

[silk ocean]

Could be another reason, e.g. hardware instability, but there are many possibilities

[obtuse yoke]

yeah i know im just so close tto finishing my blue crator lake Power Plant andim tired of the constant crashes

[silk ocean]

When did it start crashing? Just recently?

[near spindle]

I know, I'm basically dead here

But how often do you move your main storage/hub-thingy per save?

[obtuse yoke]

no since 1.0 and when i got this new computer tbh this computer hasnt been the most reliable but its a new prebuilt

[silk ocean]

That might be your point of call - could be drivers, could be hardware. Every PC is different

[rigid mist]

hypothetically, is 1 tw possible

[obtuse yoke]

its got an intel cpu and ive expiereinced that theyer not the most stable cpu on the market

yeah sigh idk ill justhave gpt keep telling me to futz around in the files a bit longer\

[dusty jasper]

everything is updated?

[silk ocean]

Drivers up to date?

[dusty jasper]

you could try DDU and intall GPU drivers again aswell

BIOS update could perhaps help

might not matter but check your RAM is also running at the right speed

[rocky sandal]

is it more efficient to build what 8(?) basic coal plants or 4 overclocked ones (from a single 120pm belt of coal)

[silk ocean]

XMP enabled in BIOS? could be memory instability

[dusty jasper]

could even do SSD driver update aswell

[fluid sapphire]

for a few people here, its not hypothetical

[hard ivy]

19 TW is

[deft drum]

1 TW is 4k fuel generators or 400 nuclear power plants (before overclocking)

For fuel generators that is about 16.6k rocket Fuel/minute

[rigid mist]

"Ferb, I know what we're going to do today!"

[deft drum]

And if you use the power amplifier building that can really change the math

Especially if you feed it the special inputs from phase 5

[hard ivy]

you laugh, but I've given one person the 19TW plan and they're planning to build it 💀

[rigid mist]

oh no

[deft drum]

Dare I ask?

[hard ivy]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=fBPlNeAPcVyJZvjbu46q

only 8500 machines (without OC)

but 6700 fuel gens 💀

[frail gorge]

does anyone know how to split 4 into three?

[burnt ferry]

use straight build mode and exit the miner by makig one corner, after the corner you can align to grid again and it will be barely visible

[hard ivy]

a 4:3 balancer

[frail gorge]

where can i find that

[burnt ferry]

build it

[radiant swallow]

i am so glad i overbuilt my energy demand since now i need 27GW for a single quantum encoder lmao

[hard ivy]

https://imgur.com/a/satisfactory-balancers-TnomMFk#eRrHO10

do not trust all the balancers in there, some are not correct

the 4:3 is fine tho

and remember that the name is under the image

so don't build the 4:4 accidentally

[frail gorge]

oh right thanks

i was looking at the 4:4 lol

[burnt ferry]

#screenshots message i wonder what they was thinking when they made their graph algorithm, such that it creates 3 end nodes like that 😂

[reef basin]

clock the 3 machines to 75% and build one more (also clocked) and you don't need to split anything

[burnt ferry]

like one goes right, one goes up and the last one goes diagonal bottom right 😂 the fourth final node is at a whole different place 😂

isnt totalxclipse involed with sftools.com?

[reef basin]

no, not at all

why?

[burnt ferry]

it would be pretty ironic.. he almost cried when he watched lets game it outs episodes .. if he had confirmed that mess of a graph drawing algorithm it would be pretty ironic 😂

and i have in my memory him talking about some website hes involved with.. but i might have gotten this wrong

[reef basin]

afaik he did some testing WAY back in the days, but other than that, not much

[burnt ferry]

lul.. i see now why you was so convinced 😂

[burnt ferry]

i guess i confuse that

[reef basin]

he was involved in https://www.satisfactorytips.com/ (which I made for him), but he recently decided to stop using that website

[true mulch]

oh wow they took it down completely

[reef basin]

I did

[true mulch]

that site was pretty funny, they pretended the wiki didn't exist

[burnt ferry]

@reef basin how hard would it be to make it such that the graph wont get redrawn after changing some settings in the facilities config?

[reef basin]

well, TX told me to do so

[hard ivy]

didn't even know about it lol

[reef basin]

pretty hard (well, not that hard, but you'd have tons of special cases, and you'd also have to rework the data saving stuff and so on, so a lot of work, not worth for current tools)

[burnt ferry]

ah.. its not react.. i might have a look then

[burnt ferry]

ye i assume you do it to actually update the numerical values, right?

[reef basin]

well I only did the site itself, content was made by TX and some random other people

[burnt ferry]

downside is, the default graph is unreadable.. but re ordering it is sisyphos work

[true mulch]

the site is still linked in the latest video's description

[reef basin]

well I assume he just copy-pastes the descriptions anyway 😄

(like 99% of youtubers do)

[true mulch]

YT has a template for it afaik

[reef basin]

or that

[burnt ferry]

his cutter does

youtubers come to the camera and sit down 😂

[reef basin]

the problem is that currently I'm only saving the "request" and the "response" is calculated on-the-fly, so that'd have to change, which is a big change code-wise

[radiant swallow]

a fully overclocked slooped superposition oscillator makes 625 dark matter :(

[true mulch]

yeah many slooped T9 recipes hit the limits

[radiant swallow]

sadge

getting cucked from the perfect 25/min by shitty pipes

[true mulch]

but I'm quite fond of how one of the diamond recipes can utilize 2 belt inputs with 1 resource

[radiant swallow]

i kinda like the recycling thing where i just turn it back into dark crystals lol

the powershard factory is actually creating dark crystals

also quick question for the power booster, the items i will feed into it, will they be used up like fuel or do they just need one for each power booster?

[wise junco]

I've never used it, but I believe they are consumed

[hard ivy]

it consumes 5/min

[radiant swallow]

thanks

i just need to figure out of they are worth it lol

[true mulch]

there is a breaking point of power cost to produce vs power gain

[hard ivy]

they are. but only if your raw production is on the order of 100s of GW

the break even point is ~90 GW

[radiant swallow]

500gw are enough?

[true mulch]

per the wiki:

Alien Power Matrixes are typically a late-game item. Creating a sufficient rate to saturate one APA requires a lot of power for the production line. Typically, around 12,000 MW of energy is necessary for five Alien Power Matrixes per minute (assuming you produce 2.5/minute using vanilla recipes and put Somersloops in the final Quantum Encoder). Given that providing an APA with Alien Power Matrixes only boosts the additional power of your base production to 30%, the additional 20% of energy generated should be greater than the 12,000 MW required to feed this power boost.

[radiant swallow]

oh easy

[burnt ferry]

i send you a dm roasting you

[true mulch]

cook him; the site is made in PHP

[burnt ferry]

its angular.. i dont care about the backend

as long as its not react in the frontend.. and i cant see any traces of wordpess either, so it could be good php

[true mulch]

wordpress's genuine use case is so niche that I can't understand it's as popular as it is

[prisma forge]

#design-and-architecture message`

Is this gradient correct?

[atomic siren]

finally my beginner nuclear is done! :D
#screenshots message

[rustic blade]

hey friends, is there a way to stop my train station map icon from appearing at 0,0 on the map?

[prisma forge]

I won't ever stop loving to look at this flux of resources
#screenshots message

[radiant swallow]

"Hell yeah teleporters!"
"require singularity cells"

oh well, i guess the hyper cannon will suffice

[reef basin]

no, the site is made in AngularJS, the API is made in PHP 😛

(and I stand by that decision, PHP is great. And wordpress sucks)

[silk ocean]

❤️ php

[sage viper]

How to unlock vertical splitter ?

[true mulch]

you don't unlock it, just attach a lift

[sage viper]

ooooooooooooooooooh okey thanks

[hard ivy]

*attach to a lift

You can't place vertical splitters by themselves

[keen oriole]

why does coal keep getting past my smart splitters on a mixed line? I used 4 and stuff still slips thru?

also do hypertube launchers still work?

[hard ivy]

use any undefined instead of overflow then

and yes

[keen oriole]

ok ty

[split pewter]

how much turbofuel per minute is required for rocket fuel?

[hard ivy]

0 if you use the nitro alt

[deft drum]

the turbofuel+Nitric acid recipie is 3->5 ratio

if you use Nitro rocket fuel it's 4 fuel to 6 rocket fuel

[split pewter]

turbo+nitric is the regular?

[deft drum]

yes

[split pewter]

ok so i need 3/m turbofuel for 5/m rocket fuel and im making 20/m

might as well get ready for nitric then

[deft drum]

i personally prefer it over nitro Rocket fuel better on sulfur and you can cycle back the compacted coal byprocduct for turbofuel

[split pewter]

i'll swap it when i unlock it, its mostly retrofit(?)

[deft drum]

which is?

[split pewter]

the alt

[deft drum]

main thing Nitro Rocekt does is it reduces overall complexity

[split pewter]

ok, will do

should i do the nitric there or from a different place?

[deft drum]

sorry forgot you can't embed here

[peak wasp]

It has the add button but it's a lie

[deft drum]

anyway without overclocking nitro rocket needs 8 blenders and 5 refineries

[deft drum]

(reflexively using CTRL+V)

[deft drum]

regular rocket fuel is, again without Overclocking, 13 blenders over 3 recipes, (can go down to 6 with OC)
26 refineries (11 with OC) 10 (4) Assemblers, 1 smelter, and 1 constructor

[lost wagon]

my blueprint uses a lot of signs, I guess I will have to transport quartz crystal because the Depo won't be fast enough

[inner echo]

Multiple depots.

I have 16 just for concrete.

[lost wagon]

every item has a cap on amount

you can have 200 depos

[inner echo]

And each depot can feed it at your maximum feed speed.

So...240 max.

16*240 is 3840 concrete p/minute.

[lost wagon]

ah you're talking about spreading the upload

[inner echo]

And I do still occasionally have to wait a moment.

Even if you can't feed them at 240...they have a stack inside...so it's still good for 'peaking'.

[flat zinc]

@gritty sleet it does it for animals too

[radiant swallow]

lmao, using the power booster to it's full potential is so bs

i got 130GW extra power out of that thing

[dense violet]

duping mechanics generally are, yes

[balmy locust]

I lost all of my notes on the "optimal" way to get the most energy possible via a turbo fuel setup... I don't suppose anyone can link me to something which has all the details?

[ancient elbow]

hello im new to the game and ive seen some blueprints online, what do they do and how do i implement them?

[dense violet]

oil to hor to diluted fuel to TF

[dense violet]

honestly? you shouldn't. You don't learn about building using other people's factories

[balmy locust]

Isnt there some other more efficient setup?

[dense violet]

but if you have to, you have to unlock the blueprint tier in game and create 1 blueprint to create the file folder you put the files in

[dense violet]

not for oil efficiency. 'efficiency' is a specific word

[balmy locust]

Is rocket fuel the better way to squeeze every ounce of power possible out of oil?

Or stick to diluted turbo?

[dense violet]

eh, if you want pure oil efficiency? sure. But you're basically just converting other resources to oil every step past fuel you do

and there's ass tons of oil on the map

[ancient elbow]

okay thank u thank u and i also wanna get a general idea if people use mods? i mean i think the game is rlly cool alr without it but i was just wondering how the community thinks abt it

[hard ivy]

Technically, ionized fuel is probably the most oil efficient

Or nuclear

[balmy locust]

I just want to build a giant ass power plant before I am ready for nuclear with the least relative headache lol.

[dense violet]

there's a whole server for mods. But another one of those things where you really should play through the tiers at least once vanilla to learn the basics, so you know what and how to mod

[fossil ice]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @dense violet

[gritty sleet]

You don't really need a giant-ass power plant pre-nuclear unless you're making massive stuff in tiers 7 and 8

[hard ivy]

Then rocket fuel is probably the best choice

[unkempt blade]

you're right, you need at least two of them!

[ancient elbow]

also is it normal to just pick up a huge amount of leaves or am i missing something 😭

[dense violet]

build a regular diluted fuel set up, use some power storage if you're a bit short

[dense violet]

it's your first fuel. Turn it to bio mass, then solid biomass

[gritty sleet]

Until you get a coal power plant going, leaves and wood are going to be a thing

[delicate crescent]

idc I'm recommended expanded inventory mods to every first time player

[hard ivy]

Leaves -> biomass -> solid biofuel

More efficient that way

[ancient elbow]

thank u everyone 🫶

[dense violet]

I occasionally uncover blocked mesages and you totally live up to your block note

[delicate crescent]

I don't remember us ever meeting before but alright

[prisma forge]

I was checking the factories in my first save that's already on phase 5 and NONE of the factories there could be compared to the sheer size of my most recent megafactory in my current save 💀💀💀

[dense violet]

that sholdn't be a surprise if you're doing everything in one spot >.>

thats the expected outcome

[prisma forge]

No no, my megafactory is only producing part 3 items. I haven't even properly started part 4, except for aluminium

[dense violet]

that's still a lot if you were doing everythign in hubs in the other save

[unkempt blade]

now time for a megamegafactory!

[gritty sleet]

And here I am only making reasonablefactories

[dusky vector]

help I am now making a home depot in satisfactory( unsatisfactory* ) life couldn't get any better

[unkempt blade]

have you considered leveling up to a megareasonable factory?

[delicate crescent]

gotta make up a factory big enough to ruin the beautiful map the developers work hard on and replace it with the beautiful color of concrete

[prisma forge]

I did consider them to be mega factories when I first made them tho.

[unkempt blade]

you need to add to the natural beauty of the map with your own artistic vision like so #screenshots message

[prisma forge]

also I finally managed to get my rocket fuel mega powerplant working. 120GW of power in total from this alone

[dense violet]

there's really no strict definition of megafactory. it boils down to 'making everything in one spot'

but there's degrees of that ofc

[delicate crescent]

my artistic vision is costco

[visual cosmos]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1403541292507467998
I like going vertical

not even the worse I've done when it comes to being vertical, but on this save it's my first factory that goes slightly vertical

[delicate crescent]

how did you stack those

[visual cosmos]

which

constructors?

[delicate crescent]

yeah

[prisma forge]

#screenshots message

[visual cosmos]

to be fair I could have stacked the smelters too now that i think about it

[visual cosmos]

just nudge

align them to the one bellow, fix position then nudge above

[unkempt blade]

Sorry that's the artistic vision of James Sinegal and Jeff Brotman. You need to at least riff on their vision so your art isn't too derivative

[visual cosmos]

its how most vertical factories are done

else you use foundations but that's boring

[delicate crescent]

that requires more intelligence to figure out than I am usually capable of, thanks

[visual cosmos]

nice color coding

[delicate crescent]

MegaCostco

[unkempt blade]

now you're talking!

[visual cosmos]

i see colors

makes me happy

[delicate crescent]

or I could just do sams club

[prisma forge]

oh yeah you reminded me to color code that (no it's not currently color coded)

[visual cosmos]

aw

but red and orange

[prisma forge]

I will color code it tho. Will be sending screenshots later.

[visual cosmos]

I color coded mine in my previous save

makes it make more sense

especially on larger scales

[delicate crescent]

I still can't decide what color my power infrastructure should be

[prisma forge]

Coincidence. My pipeline swatch is red.

[visual cosmos]

;-;

[prisma forge]

I will color code it bruh calm down

[sterile blade]

Make it power-colored

[delicate crescent]

genius.

I think light blue is a good one

like baby blue

[sterile blade]

Jokes aside, I link yellow, orange and dark gray/black to power

[delicate crescent]

I considered yellow for a while but for some reason I just couldn't get used to it

[visual cosmos]

welp my max energy consumption is 50mw bellow my max production

[delicate crescent]

and orange is general transportation for me

[sterile blade]

Love me some light blue
Definetly not the colour that pops into my mind with the word "power" though ahah

[visual cosmos]

guess making unecessarily large stuff early isnt a good idea

[delicate crescent]

my mind went to the amazing spiderman

[sterile blade]

Wtf 😆

[delicate crescent]

yk electro from the second movie if you've seen it

[unkempt blade]

the real trick is to always use a bunch of different colors at the same time

rainbows as far as the eye can see!

[sterile blade]

Ohhh, yeah, that makes sense 😆

[delicate crescent]

make sure to give your epileptic friends a tour

[delicate crescent]

yeah I think so, but then you combine that with nuclear green and it's like 🤢

[sterile blade]

See, that kind of extremely hard choices is why I just ended up saving colors for all items/fluids and using those to color-code stuff. So I don't have to choose
||Just have to spend hours saving colors instead ||

[delicate crescent]

might do this instead

[sterile blade]

In that case, you can save some time by grabbing the table containing my blood and tears the colors I saved.
Got them all in one big picture~

[delicate crescent]

your suffering would be greatly appreciated

[sterile blade]

Well, there's a few different ones to choose from actually. A few people did similar things xD
Mine is pinned in #design-and-architecture

[delicate crescent]

all this and you get a "very useful thanks"

you actually forgot to average the colors of every part in the game

[sterile blade]

Well, I also have colors for personal use!
Jokes aside, it did save me tons of time as I mainly used the "custom swatch" (some stubbornness with wanting to keep swatches aviable)

[delicate crescent]

I'm sorry but your list is useless to me for this reason, 0/10 (thank you for this I will definitely use it)

[delicate crescent]

I completely get that

I think of using the regular swatches and my perfectionism reminds me they're a limited resource and that's exactly why I will never use them

[sterile blade]

I ended up using like... 2 swatches in the end 😭
One was for Walkways, I can't recall the other 😅

[delicate crescent]

I do have a curious question though, why call it "sushi blue"

what sushi are you eating

[vague sparrow]

I had yellow road markings, now they're pink >.<

coz I forgot which was for what

[delicate crescent]

kawaii factory when

[vague sparrow]

never probably, idk why i made it pink tbh xD

Looks completely out of place, I need to change it

[sterile blade]

I forgot to remove my "factory-specific" colors 😅
It was just a kind of blue that I liked to use on sushi belts. Eg: blue primary with dark purple secondary marked sushi belts carrying overflows to a sink/factory output rather than to other local productions

[sterile blade]

The single-input-kind, the most delicious

[ancient elbow]

do better fuel = more consumption?

[delicate crescent]

I don't like my food touching

[blazing bane]

More efficient

[sterile blade]

Your subconscious is sending you messages!

[ancient elbow]

ohhh so this means i can plug in more stuff without it rbeaking right?

[blazing bane]

It means less fuel creates more power

[sterile blade]

One full pipe of "better fuel" can feed more generators than one pipe of "worse fuel"

[vague sparrow]

who knows, I like all colours tbh, so long as they're in the right place

[ancient elbow]

i see i see thank u but is there a way to add more generators

like biomass burners

[delicate crescent]

well if you happen to be producing 10 biomass per minute you can only use 1 biomass generator but 10 biofuel per minute can feed 2.5

[blazing bane]

Create more fuel and you can run more generators

Which creates more power

[delicate crescent]

have you unlocked them in the builder?

[ancient elbow]

nope

yes 😭 i didnt see

[delicate crescent]

then yeah you should be able to build more

[sterile blade]

You'd better stay far from my #screenshots message then, or you might walk away with an upset stomach

[delicate crescent]

perfectly valid

I spent my first 10 hours in satisfactory not knowing what the productivity thingy (forgot what it's called) meant

[sterile blade]

Efficiency display?

[delicate crescent]

yeah that thing

[ancient elbow]

what is productivity thing

[delicate crescent]

the bar graph display on machines with the % under it

it tells you how efficiently the machine is operating, if it doesn't say 100% that usually means you need to make some changes

[sterile blade]

(Or it's bugging out, which I don't think is unlikely )

[delicate crescent]

(or you already made said changes and it's just catching up)

[sterile blade]

I don't trust it much, ngl

[delicate crescent]

why not? I've always trusted it

[sterile blade]

I've seen it clearly fail several times and haven't really bothered checking how reliable it is since. Tbh, it might have gotten better through the years, but now I just rely on power draw by habit 🤷‍♂️

[delicate crescent]

I am going to hit you with a factory cart

[sterile blade]

You were warned

[delicate crescent]

I've never seen it fail but to be fair I only ever use it to verify my math

like using a calculator to check if 2+2 ACTUALLY equals 4

[dense violet]

just best to ignore it. Look at the lights on your machine for 20 seconds, if none of them flicker it's fine

[sterile blade]

Hopefully it has gotten more accurate than when I analized it ^^

Personally, though, I still prefer the power draw: it never lies and shows the efficiency of multiple machines too

[delicate crescent]

I suppose everyone has ways of checking up on things

[sterile blade]

Personal preferences play a big part

[delicate crescent]

yes like let's game it out's personal preference

I'm still not sure if he cheated to get that far in the game or not

[silk ocean]

I got to the point with Nuke Nobelisks where it's like... am I setting up logistics on the rail network to bring in these materials for "fun".. I'll just load them into a manufacturer manually I think XD

[south sky]

does anyone have the problem where every autosave theres like a 1 in 10 chance of the game crashing

my save might just be too big and idk what to do

[silk ocean]

I started a new 1.1 factory about 340 hours ago, not had a single crash so far. Well I had 1 crash because I tabbed out or something during load and it got upset, but otherwise rock solid

[south sky]

this save is at roughly 240 hours lots of it being afk

[random aspen]

My last play through, I just had all of the components going into dimensional depots and when I'd swing past that factory I'd drop whatever was low off in it... Never was without nukes once I started that...

[silk ocean]

Yea I'm doing the same xD

[south sky]

its been a problem ever since starting a megafactory

mega is kind of an understatement

[random aspen]

I don't think I've had that problem since 1.0, maybe even since update 8...

[south sky]

how big is your save file in kb

[silk ocean]

any hints in the crash report?

[random aspen]

Not sure, I'd have to go look

[south sky]

alright thank you

[south sky]

ill ss the next time it happens

but every auto save theres either a massive stutter or it crashes

[silk ocean]

Checking my save size, just downloading from my LAN server

[south sky]

my most recent autosave is at 8500kb

idk if thats a lot

[silk ocean]

No sounds fine

[ancient elbow]

guys what item is to seperate the conveyor belt for different constructors ?

[south sky]

splitter?

[silk ocean]

My latest is 8,043

[south sky]

hm

whats your hardware looking like

i have no clue if saving is cpu reliant or what

[silk ocean]

I think it depends on the size of the factory, how much memory?

[south sky]

32gb

[silk ocean]

I have the same, is it a stable rig in general?

[south sky]

absoulutely zero issues ever

i did a fresh install of windows a few months ago

not even because of performance issues just wanted to clean stuff up

[silk ocean]

Yea, good idea

[south sky]

might verify game files and check drivers as a start

[silk ocean]

Which GPU?

[south sky]

3060

[agile grotto]

What’s the community’s thoughts on alum blender scrap vs refineries to alumina to scrap

[silk ocean]

All seems nice, not sure, these things are always tricky. Could be drivers, could be hardware. Do you run the memory in XMP?

[peak wasp]

Iirc the alt recipes make it a lot more even and easier

[south sky]

for a little challenge i just made a factory outputting ~16000 alum scrap/min and i would advise against it

blenders are very time consuming

[burnt ferry]

totalxclipse recommends 'probe' method for planning.. i googled it because it sounded fancy... its a planning method based on the knowledge that 'similar' tasks will take 'similar' efforts... the irony is this is from software development... 99% of them developers dont even realise when theyre doing something 'similar' and even if they recognize it, they will still underestimate the effort greatly 😂 ... i mean even without software development it sounds like glorified fortune telling ... i just cant decide on super trivial or entirely uselesss.. prolly just trivial

[south sky]

nope everything clocked default

[silk ocean]

Okay less likely to be a memory issue, do you get any hints from the Unreal crash report?

Like anything at all obvious, memory, etc

[south sky]

funny enough i havent tried scrolling thru the reports

i just send and restart hoping to god i didnt lose too much progress

[silk ocean]

Most you would lose I think is the last autosave, so about 5 mins or less

[south sky]

\

oops deleted everything lmao

[burnt ferry]

im playing on 16 gig as one of my modules broke

[south sky]

i have mine set to 10 for whatever reason

i set some odd settings when i first started playing

[burnt ferry]

however since a few weeks i have to clear the gpu memory my browsers consume.. i never had to do that and it started before my module went broke

[silk ocean]

odd settings?

[burnt ferry]

otherwise my games crash while loading the savegame with some memory violation error or similar

[south sky]

10 minute autosave intervals and some other gameplay based stuff

graphics are set to ultra and i average about 70fps which is fine by me

but if that helps the crashing id be more than happy to lower it

[silk ocean]

ok not odd xD shouldn't be related to crash to desk xD

[burnt ferry]

what happens if you lower the graphics settings? could be the gfx card getting to hot

[silk ocean]

Try going to some lower presets yea

[south sky]

i cleaned out all the dust and everything when i did a clean install a few months ago

[burnt ferry]

gfx card or something else getting to hot sudenly is not to ncommon... dust... oldened thermal paste..... etc

[south sky]

ill keep an eye on it but i havent noticed anything out of the ordinary for temperatures

[south sky]

will do

[burnt ferry]

yea idk... my dust created a hardened black mass along with the smoke from my bong and i dont crash on high settings either 😂

[silk ocean]

You could consider doing a DDU, check out instructions how to do this on YouTube, clean driver install

[burnt ferry]

rather reinstall windows

you cant fix it completely anyway.. youll always have remains

[south sky]

this might be a stupid question but wouldnt i have issues in other games if it was a driver or hardware issue?

[burnt ferry]

most likely yes

[silk ocean]

Not necessarily but maybe

[south sky]

i guess i really dont run anything too intensive but i havent noticed anything at all performance wise except for satisfactory saving

[burnt ferry]

dependss on what other agmes you play though

if its solitair and minesweeper, maybe not

[south sky]

everything is fine with my pc EXCEPT for when it tries to save my world

[burnt ferry]

hm

[silk ocean]

Hmm, okay so it literally crashes doing autosave?

[burnt ferry]

could be harddrive then

[south sky]

little bit of csgo, ksp, cities skylines rn

[silk ocean]

Yea could be secondary storage

What is your primary drive, Windows - C

[burnt ferry]

cities is so badly optimized, that should suffice as a benchmark to tell its satisfactory specific

[south sky]

yeah cities is an absolute shit show rn

[burnt ferry]

however harddrive issues might not play a role for all games

[south sky]

i actually dont remember let me check which drive

[burnt ferry]

have you confirmed that it is not the savegame itself?

like does it happen in a new game as well

[south sky]

its on my c drive which is a samsung 980 tb or something like that

[silk ocean]

Satisfac saves are usually in your user profile, which is normally your Windows drive

[south sky]

maybe 970 actually

yeah i have a slow ass hdd so i was thinking maybe i accidentally downloaded there

[burnt ferry]

nah shouldnt be about disk speed.. i was thinking defects rather

savegme is fine on an actual hardDISK

[burnt ferry]

the game installation benefits from the ssd for sure yes

but not that the game just crashes randomly

[ocean cairn]

is it better to make plates/rods 1:1 2:3 1:2 or 1:3

[burnt ferry]

steel rods... coated plates, adhered plates

[south sky]

so far i have virtually every steam game saved on the ssd and ive seen nothing wrong with them

ill reinstall and maybe mess around with game settings and home that clears it up

and if not ill go deeper and try some driver and hardware stuff ig

[burnt ferry]

ye but not all the games might use the harddrive in the same way.. but im not betting too much on the disk being broken or so... what about the savegame? does it happen in a new game?

[south sky]

thats a good question

ive had one and only world my entire lifespan in this game apart from some multiplayer with friends so i have no clue

[burnt ferry]

the 'reinstall and update drivers mantra' is for when you have no idea about whats wrong.. in which case the best option is to reinstall windows ... which you did recently. so i wouldnt focus too much on that

apart from just doing an update of course

[south sky]

my current nvidia release is from april

[burnt ferry]

always rule out the save file.. ESPECIALLY when early access is involved and the savegame in fact spans both early access and post release

[south sky]

is there any way to fix a cooked save file

[burnt ferry]

sounds indeed a bit old

[silk ocean]

pretty old

[burnt ferry]

unlikely.. you should definitley send the savefile to coffeestain though

[turbid gazelle]

I just got to the part where other ada flirts with normal ada and lemme just say. AYYYOOOO💀

[burnt ferry]

they might want to investigate

[south sky]

lag bomb save file for testing

i guess my course of action will be update drivers, reinstall, lower settings

and if that doesnt work ill just deal with it

im too deep to start another save

[burnt ferry]

start a new game first

do the most easiest and most obvious thing first

[south sky]

true

ima sleep now bc i got work early tmr

thank you all for your help

[burnt ferry]

but your nvidia drivers DO sound old.. so updating them could make sense

[south sky]

ill lyk if the problem magically disappears

[south sky]

yeah i kinda forget about them completely every half year

[silk ocean]

Nothing tends to magicically disappear in computing, sometimes xD

[turbid gazelle]

Hey, breadman, are you new here? I haven't seen you around before

[south sky]

i really only interact when im confused or my game is being weird

[burnt ferry]

the ram module that only serves decorative purposes now laying next to me disagree

[south sky]

game being weird is a first tho now

[turbid gazelle]

Do y'all know Totalxclipse

[burnt ferry]

again.. savegame that span early access AND post release phase being broken is super common

[south sky]

when figuring out train signaling i probably spent 2 hours straight reading old help threads

[burnt ferry]

most studios reset all saves regularly during EA

[south sky]

yeah this save is probably 3 years old + atp

[turbid gazelle]

Quick hint before I gtg

The best solution to a problem is usually the easiest one

*USUALLY

[burnt ferry]

@south sky first off.. be aware of zombies.. otherwise there will be unbread... and second fyi my nvida drivers are at 576.80 currently.. cant figure out the release date

[turbid gazelle]

*NOT ALWAYS

[south sky]

i scrolled to the very bottom of nvidia experience

or whatever it’s called it’s like the last line

[burnt ferry]

yea.... it makes no sense to put time into more complicated solutions before at least trying the easier one for sure

[burnt ferry]

because of my missing ram, some gpu related things regularly crash on my pc currently.. including the nvida app... and i opened the other thing now instead 😂

well.. not regularly... but i dont bother restarting crashed stuff until i notice it has crashed..

[south sky]

fair enough

[south sky]

yeah i’ll try all the basic stuff first but my driver are definitely crying out for help

[burnt ferry]

yea.. also when im saying 'driver update usually is the worst advise', i say that as someone who usually installs all updates immediately.. in fact i like windows update force 😂

[lofty phoenix]

How can I get more trees and leaves when the world is out of it

[sullen gull]

Fauna can also be used as biomass. And iirc, respawns so long as nothing powered is in the vicinity(?)

[burnt ferry]

fauna respawn is mad

but how can one harvest ALL leaves and wood?

[lofty phoenix]

Fauna don't respawn

[burnt ferry]

of course

[sullen gull]

Though, I'd be curious how one would, or why one would ever clear every bit of flora on the map.

[burnt ferry]

i kill the same hog next to my base each and every day

i also revisit the same farming spots frequently

[cyan belfry]

Nuke nobelisks

[burnt ferry]

whats their radius?

[lofty phoenix]

Last night I star a new map and I've build 150 biomass burner

[burnt ferry]

why? personal challenge?

[sullen gull]

I've done it, to the swamp.it would take a hell of a long time to clear the entire map. But the questions assumes it was being used in some way. To which o ask, why nuke it then?

[burnt ferry]

but then alien remains should be best bet

[cyan belfry]

Efficiency

If you're just trying to get rid of it

[burnt ferry]

by the time i unlock nuke obelisk i dont waste a second even thinking about biomass

[sullen gull]

https://tenor.com/view/blank-stare-gif-12945843696836467887

[lofty phoenix]

No,just wondering

[burnt ferry]

i doubt anyone has the patience to really clear all the wood and leaves

[sullen gull]

Lol, I mean, I'm sure there is someone out there who may do such a thing 😅

[burnt ferry]

im sure you misssed something

but its not an advertisement for your sanity if you did not either. 👹

[sullen gull]

Oh, lol I wasn't insinuating that I would. He'll no.

[burnt ferry]

ah ok.. i misinterpeted your 'i have done it' from before 😂

[sullen gull]

Heck some of them i make sure I save fore the "ambience" 🤣

[radiant swallow]

bruh it took me 2 weeks to finish phase 4 and 8h to finish phase 5

[sullen gull]

Oh, just to a rather large portion of the swamp, with nukes lol

[burnt ferry]

welll.. yes.. but if a factory needs to emerge.. ima swing the chainsaw

[lofty phoenix]

Last night, I created 4 liquid biofuel line,2 gas nobelisk line

[burnt ferry]

ah so you cleaned only the swamp .. gotcha

who uses gas nobelisks?

[sullen gull]

1 refinery for liquid bio is plenty. Only really best for early game jetpack

[burnt ferry]

i mean.. i would use gas nobelisks in multiplayer.. like when them players log out, decorate their sitting avatar with 25 gas nobelisks.. and when they rejoin.. boom

[lofty phoenix]

I build 4

[sullen gull]

I've heard some people like them for some scenarios I guess. I've not personally used them though

[burnt ferry]

is it even killing any alien?

i mean i havent tested them tbf.. but typically chemical weapons are crap in these games

[sullen gull]

1 refinery, slooped, dumping in to an ISC+dd and you'll never run out

[burnt ferry]

if you can smoke out a cave of stingers.. maybe worth

[sullen gull]

Iirc, that was one of the scenarios

[burnt ferry]

i prefer smaking them though

but i play with passives..

[sullen gull]

I just have mine set to retaliate. But, they dont ever actually retaliate lol

[burnt ferry]

they retaliate by their existence

[sullen gull]

Lol

[burnt ferry]

but dna good

baby stingers are awesome

you can always twohit them, even when they run away... and they can drop as many remains as big daddy

and it feels like you just turn around and they respawn

[sullen gull]

I like the one cave where like 6 of them spawn on one of the "bridge" formations coming from the ceiling.

[burnt ferry]

sounds like every cave 😂

but its about tiem that some game developer realises my idea of merging trucksim, any factorysim, transport fever and cities into one game, where the satisfactory player produces the gooods transported by the trucksim player, who is dispatched by the transport fever player and moves on infrastructure build by the cities player

[willow glen]

be the change you want to see in the world

[burnt ferry]

and playstation players can do chores like cleaning the lawn

or walking doggo

[burnt ferry]

na... i developed a thourough depression because iactually hate working with computers

[prisma forge]

what do you guys usually build in the blue crater?

[leaden ether]

power plant

[prisma forge]

I'm thinking about Supercomputers, Assembly Director System, Radio Control Unit...

[burnt ferry]

i built an office for my buddy... its directly at the altitude where you start to take damage when going one meter further down

[quiet gust]

any of those work its one of the best biomes by far

[prisma forge]

I will literally cover the crater >:)

[burnt ferry]

if it has rubber/plastic id do supercomputers... if it has iron copper or caterium and coal id do turbo motors

[prisma forge]

I don't have that unlocked yet

[gritty sleet]

It's kinda weird that according to the Steam stats, 4.5% of players have finished Phase 5 (and the game), but only 3.3% have all the milestones unlocked.

[prisma forge]

I guess I'll wait a bit then

[burnt ferry]

because the achievement came after early access release

i havent unlocked onboarding achievement yet...

[prisma forge]

also you don't need all milestones to beat the game

[gritty sleet]

But so did the "complete Project Assembly" achievement

[gritty sleet]

Yeah, but you'd think if someone was just about to finish the game, they'd just get all the milestones too, whether they needed it or not

[burnt ferry]

if its late gamei ts more likely to be unlocked bymore players when achievements wasnt there from the beginning

[prisma forge]

or maybe they rushed it cuz they were tired and didn't bother getting the milestones

[burnt ferry]

i have the same in farthest frontier where im missing lots of early game achievements i prolly never get anymore

[burnt ferry]

whats 'beating the game though' finish phase 5?

[prisma forge]

yes

[burnt ferry]

ye. yo udont need milestone 9 for that for sure

[prisma forge]

I mean, do you need the jump pads milestone to reach phase 5?

[burnt ferry]

wait in fact you need the last milestone 😂

but ye.. some early games you dont need

[gritty sleet]

I unlocked it anyway lol

[burnt ferry]

doenst the jumppad come with some inventory extensions?

[prisma forge]

here's another example: Foolish me didn't bother unlocking blueprints since I didn't think they would be that useful. Foolish, foolish me.

[burnt ferry]

you do have the dimensional depot though? 😂

[prisma forge]

yes

[gritty sleet]

I'm always shocked when people didn't bother with the DD

Or didn't do anything with the MAM at all

[burnt ferry]

you slop your dna and power shard production @prisma forge ? 😂

[prisma forge]

yes, yes I do

[burnt ferry]

and you dont pick alt recipes if you dont use them, to avoid them getting rerolled?

[prisma forge]

yes I am also aware of that

[burnt ferry]

thats it then

[prisma forge]

come on, I have 600 hours of gameplay I am stupid but not that much

[burnt ferry]

you havent unlocked blueprints

[prisma forge]

I have tho

[burnt ferry]

LATE

[prisma forge]

I didn't for a while in my first save

and am using them almost consistenly in my current save

[burnt ferry]

i install mods for blueprints in other games 😂

[hollow vector]

gooner build pioneer in fan-art number 920

[ebon silo]

Thanks in advance,

I'm on satisfactory calculator and trying to use the production planner to make 0.5 heavy modular frame per minute and when it gives me the network graph it has mark 3 miners... how do i change the parameters for it to be mark 1 miners or mark 2 miners

[prisma forge]

right click the miner

[burnt ferry]

use satisfactorytools.com or the steam tool

[prisma forge]

oh wait it's the calculator

I thought it was the modeler XD

yeah there's a steam tool called Satisfactory Modeler. Pretty handy.

[ebon silo]

How do you run it concurrent to satisfactory?

[burnt ferry]

on the same pc it just runs

[prisma forge]

just download it and run

[burnt ferry]

on different pcs you have to stop steam after starting it and then you can start satisfactory on the second pc

restart steam again before closing to sync to cloud

[ebon silo]

Oh snap, this is a game changer... just run it on my 2nd monitor

[prisma forge]

big plans ahead, fellas
#screenshots message

[burnt ferry]

you can run any number of games in parallel on the same pc

[ebon silo]

Thanks guys

[ebon silo]

I didn't even know that

[prisma forge]

although sometimes buggy, it's very very handy

[ebon silo]

Yeah ill have to learn it... it seems intimidating

[burnt ferry]

i have 9k hours in clicker heroes

[prisma forge]

nah it's pretty simple to learn

[burnt ferry]

you dont have to use everything.. you can make your plan as simple as it is with them website tools.. or you be detailed including splitters and mergers

[ebon silo]

for example... if I wanted to know how to make 0.5 heavy modular frames how would i do that? just right click on the background and select heavy modular frames?

[burnt ferry]

exactly

you dont even have to put the input materials if you just want to look at the recipe itself and maybe plan different building numbrs

but if you want the previous steps, you just drag from them input handles on the producer icon to somewhere

[gilded goblet]

p3 tonight chat?

[ebon silo]

IT's a bit confusing for me like I right clicked and typed in HMF and then it popped it up and showed just the things i needed to put in a manufacturer but didn't show me the #'s from the input like the tools or the calculator

[gilded goblet]

i have 1800 frameworks 88 acus and 297 modular engines

[prisma forge]

nah I have to sleep. I need to "socialize" tomorrow. Ugh, so inefficient.

[gilded goblet]

lmao

[burnt ferry]

just click on the input and drag to the left

this will put a building for the material you clicked on

[ebon silo]

how do i get it to give me #'s of items?

im sorry i'm slowly trying to figure it out

[burnt ferry]

buy yourself a stack of liquid biofuel, empty your inventory, grab your jetpack.. and then scout for slugs, slopes, spheres and hdds

[gilded goblet]

i have all the spheres I could ever want

i have like 5 hard drives in my inventory and i'm fine on slugs and slopes

[burnt ferry]

just create a consumer demanding the amount

like a storage container... the tool also supports planning by putting theh according amount of producers

[ebon silo]

This is confusing

[burnt ferry]

like your building fused modullars, right? so you could just drag them from the blender into a storage container and demand teh amount

[ebon silo]

I appreciate the help but with tools i just tell it I wan't HMF and i have a 120 ore node and it tells me how to do it .. im sure this does it to I just am a noob to the app. Thanks for all the help

[burnt ferry]

OR you put as many blenders as you would put in game, if you have only one building, the number in the middle tells you the amount

it also makes sense to read the help in the beginning....

its not much

[burnt ferry]

sftools is fine as well, i suggested it before.. just sfcalculator is crap for planning.. the map is good though

[ebon silo]

Is there a way for it to give me all the buildings and things I need for 0.5 HMF or do i have to do the drag

[burnt ferry]

i think not.. but i prefer it that way because i usually have different steps of base materials already done

[gilded goblet]

sorry i meant p4, i'm completing p3 in like 10 minutes

[burnt ferry]

you can right click on the output handle to set desired amounts

[ebon silo]

I don't even see the output handle can you screenshot what the heck you're talking about

[burnt ferry]

you dont see the heavy modular frame on the right side?

and the input mats on the left side?.. the ones you seem to have already dragged?

[ebon silo]

yes

i guess i'm just not familiar with the terms

[burnt ferry]

im not using any official ones

[ebon silo]

I see what you're talking about now thank you

[steady glade]

*remember to check "parts per minute" on to have a precise item count instead of machine count

[burnt ferry]

check the 'outpost' feature..

ita llows you to put your facilities into boxes and define your own set of inputs and outputs.. like you could put the entire production chain except for concrete and iron ingots into an outpost (just an example) and then say this outpost demands iron ingots and concrete

the total demand for theinputs is then determined by your facilities total demand for that

its similar how the 'facilities' on them website tools work, where you can also specify existing material to simplify the chain.. but here you can make these interact with each other instead of just listing them

[dense violet]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=wycidvn557BvZTLewtM8

you wanted a plan for 0.5 hmf pm right?

if they were telling you to use Modeler, that's more of a layout planner. You have to do every step manually.

basically every other tool will spit out a proper plan

that took basically 4 clicks to spit out

[ebon silo]

Ok

I'll check them all out thanks for all lthe help guys

[steady glade]

assuming you dont want alternate recipes

[dense violet]

click a few alts if you want then

[dense violet]

click the link, you can share web links of whole plans like that.

[flint grail]

Is anyone else having issues launching the game through Steam right now?

[steady glade]

nope im good

[cosmic laurel]

if an unloading stop is full will the train just not unload or should i make sure to have some sort of overflow/sink

[burnt ferry]

it just drives away.. thats the beauty of transportation

[steady glade]

does it not still try to unload?

[cosmic laurel]

groovy, so if im making 600 iron ore a min but one stop is consuming only 90, i can have another route that uses that 510 and although at first it may take a bit it should eventually balance out

[burnt ferry]

the animation might play yes.. but you can configure the waiting time

[burnt ferry]

yea.. you can separate your facilities with transport without overflowing and then stucking belts or pipes

plus to increase the number of different material is a lot easier

[cosmic laurel]

and as a follow do yall find it easier to dedicate 1 train to a resource and just add on stops as you need it, or dedicate trains to specific projects and have each car pick up what resource is needed

[radiant swallow]

i really regret buying everything from the awesome shop by now lol

i need 140 coupons for the golden nut statue and i wasted at least 150 on things i never used

[burnt ferry]

140 coupons is worth 28 thousand plastic from the shop for example

[radiant swallow]

nah i never bought any resources

only cosmetics

[burnt ferry]

or 875 super computers

[violet pecan]

Is there any other use for Polymer Resin?

[burnt ferry]

yes i know.. hence you are regretting it 😂

[radiant swallow]

i regret buying cosmetics, yeah

im still making about 15mil/min though because i slooped and sharded my propulsion rocket factory lol

20 rockets

i'll just let the game run while i sleep, simple as

[burnt ferry]

just hunt a few aliens.. slop alien remains and alien protein procession and have a ton of dna

[radiant swallow]

that is just not worth it anymore lol

[burnt ferry]

a lot more than letting your pc run over the night for this

unless your pc does something else.. something important

[radiant swallow]

i mean i need 140 coupons.

[burnt ferry]

dna demand is not increasing exponentially

[radiant swallow]

at about 14.5mil/min, and letting it run for 5h, it should be fine

[atomic notch]

i havent checked my sinks in a while and i just pulled like 250

[burnt ferry]

your rockets wont do that anymore

[radiant swallow]

i'll go commit nuclear warfare on the local wildlife if i don't have enough points, yeah

[crisp grail]

build a racetrack

[radiant swallow]

where is the highest concetration of those radioactive hogs?

[burnt ferry]

i rather two hit stinger babies

for the same amount of remains

[radiant swallow]

i got nukes and those oneshot those large hogs so why not use it lol

[willow glen]

probably the area between swamp, titan forest, and red forest. Swamp gonna get you the most protein overall tho

[burnt ferry]

because theyre rare and huge

[radiant swallow]

especially since i automated those nukes

[burnt ferry]

stinger babies drop 5 remains and then you turn around and they respawn

[crisp grail]

The swamp at night is the best time for alien remains

[burnt ferry]

your closest cave

[radiant swallow]

i will grab my friend and will clean up the swamp

[crisp grail]

its primarily stingers

[radiant swallow]

got thousands of rounds of turbo rifle ammo and a few hundred nukes stocked

[burnt ferry]

i would rather go into some cave... especially if you need to fight them for real

[radiant swallow]

i will probably also just turn them into passive mobs so there is no annoyance lol

[willow glen]

ya there’s a group of 5 large stingers with 2 poison nearby, that’s a lotta protein if you can take em down easily (surely at p5 you can)

[burnt ferry]

swamps way too open and the density isnt that much better as at other open areas

depending where you at, the way too it could already be enough 😂

[radiant swallow]

i live in the green area

[burnt ferry]

nuclear trees?

[radiant swallow]

also, this whole conversation we had made me 15 coupons

no, down south

grassland

with the flying manta whales lol

[burnt ferry]

undearneath the big arc

pure sam + stinger family

lots of hogs outside and the shroom forest has spitters

[willow glen]

ya but open areas are easier to fly over quickly to scan for aliens, tho there’s some juicy caves, I just can’t remember where they are exactly lol

[burnt ferry]

then youre almost at the eastern crater

[burnt ferry]

ye i just never hunt for aliens in particular, i scout slugs, slops, spheres and hdds and kill everything on the way

only when theres stinger babies i kinda stay around for a while and have them resapwn a few times

[gilded goblet]

7 more modular engines then I get phase 4

[burnt ferry]

the xeno basher hit to remain ratio is just too good

[willow glen]

I prefer to automate rebar myself; the big stingers and spitters are too difficult to take down with just basher without taking a good amount of damage

I don’t wanna hunt for berries

[crisp grail]

the need for an attack helicopter tier 9 is present

[burnt ferry]

i heard you can smoke them stingers out with gas nobelisk.. but i havent tried it myself

i see no point at all in fighting them.. its neither fun, nor thrilling, nor is there a real reason for it except coupons

[willow glen]

I haven’t ever tried gas nobelisk, every enemy I’d care to use it on is immune to poison. Unless it’s a different poison

[versed ravine]

This game is horrible yet amazing at the same time

[burnt ferry]

its also not a hard task to solve.. you just spam them stingers with nobelisks and thats it

rather set them passive.. two hit their children and bathe in coupons

[willow glen]

it makes me feel good to always win in negotiations tho

[burnt ferry]

by smacking stingers?

who you negotiate with? trump? 👹

[topaz lava]

Felt

[versed ravine]

I just got it

[topaz lava]

Oh lol

[versed ravine]

and I have spent the same amount of time on it as I have worked this week

Is it the same for anyone else? 😂

[crisp grail]

its a true time vacuum

[upbeat charm]

I found the lost lizard doggo

[versed ravine]

nice recovery

[upbeat charm]

He just wander off to my concrete factory

[burnt ferry]

i had put a buggy into my doggos cage for him to play with... he used it to escape

and then he died somewhere

[atomic notch]

When i get sucked into it yeah but lately i just been playin on weekends

[burnt ferry]

i give the next doggo the cybertruck.. cant use that one to escape.. cant take you anywhere at all 😂

[upbeat charm]

I wish we have a way to moce doggo

I'm thinking of moving my hub a little more northeaat

[kind iris]

how do I find the perfect place to make base?

[burnt ferry]

take your mouse.. move it all the way up

if you have mouse inverted, move it all the way down

[kind iris]

yea

[burnt ferry]

northeast spawn point is dope

small oasis close by.. lots of water, late game material crashsites.. slugs, slops, spheres

nuclear forest, swamp and that northern bay area close by

[kind iris]

easyy

[topaz lava]

Yes, I now work 100 hour weeks because I have a satisfactory addiction and 30 of so is just satisfactory

Thankfully my wife fully supports my satisfactory addiction and she herself enjoys it a tad

[gilded goblet]

we are now in phase 4

[upbeat charm]

Safe to say that you find the game satisfactory

[burnt ferry]

satisfactory is like mark 3 in school.. or a C i

[upbeat charm]

People go zooming at high speed

meanwhile I'm still can't figure out how to base properly

Do people bring in ore or ingot into their mega processing machine?

[burnt ferry]

many people bring their mega processing machine to the ore

but generally speaking, i believe people prefer to have at least the first processing step right at the resource node

[atomic notch]

got a lot more than ore and ingots comin in also got fluid and gas plus few different parts

it just depends on what you need really

also whats locally available and what you need to outsource

[upbeat charm]

so finish processing first before importing into base

[burnt ferry]

aside from the space elevator there isnt really a central 'base' in this game

[atomic notch]

well its not reasonable to do all the processing outside the base but some resources might be more optimal like steel and just having a steel train vs a foundry stack at the base

[upbeat charm]

My base definition is like big mega building that at least store what yoy need in 1 place

[burnt ferry]

rather grab concrete and make beams and pipes right a way

[atomic notch]

i could pull everything into one spot but i am making everything in one base

[atomic notch]

what

[burnt ferry]

im just saying for steel it makes sense to process it right away into beams and pipes. using molded beams/molded pipes recipes, hence concrete

[atomic notch]

ok

but then your transporting two items anyway might as well juat transport the coal and iron and do it all at the base

[burnt ferry]

you might just need pipes

[atomic notch]

can make pipes at the base

[burnt ferry]

you have to transport a lot more then

[atomic notch]

jus a constrcutor

[burnt ferry]

there isnt 'the base' though..

you rather have like several bases..

[atomic notch]

yeah like i said im makin it all in one base its like an everything factory setting up the dd

[burnt ferry]

but just for context, i just build a pipes/beams setup.... one pure iron node belt goes into 36 foundries to make steel which goes into another 36 foundries to make pipes and beams.. if you have space for that at your elevator

[atomic notch]

yeah i get it

[burnt ferry]

yes sure thats what everybody tries in the beginning 😂

[atomic notch]

lol

[burnt ferry]

hm i believe im already making pipes only at that fac as im making motors from it

[placid stirrup]

You can certainly have some of them interconnected, but transportation is easier logistically with several smaller factories

[burnt ferry]

then there is encased pipes, wh ich removes the nee dfor beams for encased industrial beams.. and that will make heavy modular frames beamfree

beams just have a worse iron to beam ratio than pipes do. pipes get used in higher numbers sometimes, but with the molded recipes thats fine

[finite mirage]

should i sink the polymer resin from my power factory?

[burnt ferry]

for now for sure.. but eventually you might want to look into a recycled rubber/plastic loop which you can use the resin as bootstrapping for... but if you just started oil processing, power should be more im portant

[finite mirage]

ok thanks

[atomic notch]

Its doable if you have good enough logistics

[burnt ferry]

have you played factorio before?

[atomic notch]

No

I dont really like the enemy aspect i like the chill part of satisfactory

[burnt ferry]

yes 100%

i was just asking because the idea of a central base is somewhat easier to realise (in fact enforced kind of because of said enemies) and that just doesnt work as goo din satisfactory

i mean if you coud place belts longer than 7 foundations, things might be different, but that alone is reason enough for me to build a truck or trainstation

[atomic notch]

well i use push pull trains and i have like 15 currently

[green fiber]

Factorio encourages centralization due to the variable nature of resources and also defending a central point is easier than many outposts

We dont have that pressure here

[burnt ferry]

and the fact that you have less crucial material

[green fiber]

Make an outpost and it will always work and never be attacked

[atomic notch]

i kinda just bring it to where i need it, not really high output this factory is more just to beat p4

[burnt ferry]

you need the factorio typical 4 belts for one mat only depending on the fac size

[burnt ferry]

ye makes sense kinda.. i started building proper facilities during phase 4 already, that really ups numbers a lot

[green fiber]

Factorio also has the bonus of faster belts by default

[burnt ferry]

my motor fac alone has 6 input belts.. two more than the factorio ''bus' typically has

[green fiber]

You can just move more stuff on less belts so its easier to put everything on there

[burnt ferry]

smart splitters was added prettylate as well, wasnt they?

[boreal musk]

smart splitter added in u3

[burnt ferry]

hm.. i havent used them though.. maybe they were further into lategame?

[atomic notch]

all i got left is some oil processing to finish up ads. i got a fluid train bringin like 1800 oil per minute lol

[barren berry]

to get phase 2 of the space station i need 1k smart frame but each takes 30 seconds to craft, am i really ment to sit for over 8 hours or is there a way to increase that speed

[boreal musk]

no, it use ai limiter in the past as well

theyre added at the same time as awesome sink

[burnt ferry]

i would never transport oil per train 😂

only fluid im transporting is the white alu stuff

better to process the fluids to solisd before transporting

[green fiber]

Ive not seen someone train alumina in a long while lol

[atomic notch]

i got buffers and its split between 4 cars

[burnt ferry]

ye bad planning on my side... could definitley be avoided as well

ah wait.. as far as i remember, nobody uses batteries for drones

[atomic notch]

i just train bauxite in lol

[winged walrus]

I'm trying to transport aluminium and rubber on one train, never gonna do fluids

[burnt ferry]

i built a battery fac while thinking drones cant use any thingn else

tings was done when i found out

[winged walrus]

And this railway gonna be long asf

[burnt ferry]

thats the only reason im transporting the alu fluid

[burnt ferry]

yep, thats the actual way.. the trains main purpose is to bring them alu ingots to that site where i build alclad sheets and casings and also batteries... i might remove them though

[green fiber]

funny enough im moving packaged alumina via drone to make the batteries for the drones

[burnt ferry]

and you dare to mention, not having seen someone trainig alumina solution?

[green fiber]

Its not a whole lot of effort you know!

A train just seems much more dedicated

[burnt ferry]

i was thinking about packaging to avoid headlift shenanigans

[green fiber]

Just use pumps

[burnt ferry]

yep.. drones are the nicest ones... and their capacity is not even that bad

[burnt ferry]

ye them packages are too small

only downsides of them drones is youcant ride them

like even when standing on them, youll fall off

[still arch]

Are there any tools to export the whole factory to text format like csv or json?

[green fiber]

Err...how exactly ?

Like what is there supposed to be in that json

[finite mirage]

need some help, how do i share a picture

[green fiber]

#screenshots is how

[finite mirage]

#screenshots message

[green fiber]

Ok and what exactly do you need help with there? Make a long ramp up there or something

[finite mirage]

ramp? with like concrete and shi? i was confused cuz u can't adjust the height like u can with hypertubes and shi

[green fiber]

Yeah

Foundation ramps

Foundations and pillars and stuff like that are your only tools for making rail supports

[peak wasp]

i just finished phase 3 on space elevator it looks like i aint reaching to phase 4 soon should i built a train for it? i saw on yt that it will come in handy but it looks very painful to built all over the map considering how messy and cluttered my setup is

[finite mirage]

how many oil nodes have you conqured?

[peak wasp]

150

[finite mirage]

there's ike 30 nodes in the map dude

[peak wasp]

guess i confused it with something else one sec lemme search that up

only 2

[finite mirage]

pathetic considering ur pfp

[peak wasp]

one for modular engine one for that steel ball

[peak wasp]

well dont blame me i play solo its a pain to build and provide enough power to them

[finite mirage]

u have a power issue?

[peak wasp]

not anymore but all the coal generators are at 160 W

[finite mirage]

why are you using coal power

[peak wasp]

what else do i use?

[finite mirage]

ur in stage 3 right?

[peak wasp]

thats the best option for me

[still arch]

okay that probably doesn't make sense lol but i'm thinking to use llm for suggestions or reminder for something i missing

[peak wasp]

no tier 6

i said i completed phase 3 on space elevator

[finite mirage]

yeah, just use oil

[peak wasp]

is it better?

[finite mirage]

fuel powered gen

250 MW base

650 if u overclock

[peak wasp]

wow i suffered for nothing

had to set up 4 coal generator to create that steel ball

[finite mirage]

#screenshots message

this is my setup, will give u 1500 mW

[peak wasp]

dam it looks so organized

mine is atrocious

[finite mirage]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

learnt about this tool yesterday, already in love

[peak wasp]

good luck with making those steel balls btw theyre a pain to make

[sly bloom]

Steel balls? huh

[prime jasper]

Is that just my game or there is texture flickering on the rails of the train docks? I dismantled it so see it if overlapped with anything, built it back... And it just keep flickering even tho it clips with nothing at all.

Also Is there a way to simply choose the direction a block signal is facing ? Sometimes the traffic ligh face me, sometimes it face away from me. I can easily swap from left side/ right side with "R" but i can't simply reverse the direction of the block signal which can be really annoying.

[arctic fable]

console Release - when? 🥸 vacation should be over

[slow kindle]

Is hoverpack better than jetpack?

[fluid sapphire]

i find placing signals is more reliable when you have a foundation under the track, even if its temporary

[fluid sapphire]

different use cases

[prime jasper]

Thanks i will try that

[slow kindle]

When I'm in base and can fly without disconnecting, is it better?

[true mulch]

R doesn't swap the direction, it only swaps the side visually

aim at the right side of the track and it should work fine, I never had any issues with it

[prime jasper]

Yes that is exaclty the problem i am describing, i have NOTHING to swap the direction

[fluid sapphire]

it depends on what fuel you have for the jetpack, for general travel, but obviously hoverpack excels at well, hovering

[prime jasper]

It doesn't work at all for me

[slow kindle]

I use biofuel

[fluid sapphire]

hoverpack probably has better lift then, i think

[slow kindle]

alr , ty

[fluid sapphire]

but of course the downside is you need power connections

[slow kindle]

yeah ill just keep one on reach

[fluid sapphire]

i only use hoverpack when i am building, very often alternate between the two

[minor rock]

tbh just use fly t.t

[sterile blade]

When a date will be aviable, it will be advertised #announcements

[true mulch]

are you attaching signals to railway joints or freely along the track?

[slow kindle]

I love how mk4 belts are really "expensive" to the phase but mk5 belts are literally insanely easy to get

[true mulch]

even belt marks are more expensive than odd belt marks

[slow kindle]

( whats odd belt marks)

[sterile blade]

An odd number is one that's not a multiple of 2

[fluid sapphire]

% 2 = 0

[slow kindle]

Ik what's odd lol

!wikisearch belt marks

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=belt

[slow kindle]

Oh i got it

[sterile blade]

Belt marks are numbers, some numbers are odd, some even ^^

[slow kindle]

I just woke up sorry im so stupid

[peak wasp]

Adaptive Control Unit

[sterile blade]

Balls are control units, confirmed

[rocky coyote]

this usually happens because the achievement was added at a later date

[slow kindle]

How do you get mycelia?

[sterile blade]

By finding it or collecting it from doggos

Using the Chainsaw, you sometimes "unexpectedly" get some, depending on what you cut ofc (it's not random, it's just hard to tell what gives you Mycelia with a chainsaw)
Can also be collected pure, albeit more rarely

[fluid sapphire]

there is some on the swamp floor

[frail vigil]

Mycelia is often found in the plants found in caves

[hot talon]

you can get mycelia from the mushroom looking plants near the cords 500,2000

[jaunty torrent]

or the weird hexagon sphere things in the wooded area at 3000, -800, or coral, or loads of places really

also since when was there a marching army of birds on the main menu screen

[hot talon]

how has everyone run a train line from the bottom of the map to the top, straight through the guts of the map or taken the scenic route. for context I'm building a new factory and need power and transportation for myself

[jaunty torrent]

i guess it depends on what materials you want it to transport idk

[fluid sapphire]

not sure it matters, build the way you want, you can always expand your network later

[jaunty torrent]

if personal transport and power are your only concerns though then straight through the middle would probably be faster

[shy mulch]

Depends on your priority, do you prefer managing huge elevation changes or going the long way round? Or just do both

[jaunty torrent]

idk why you'd use a train for personal transport though, I guess I've never tried it

[shy mulch]

Also what phase are you in, and what exactly are you transporting

[fluid sapphire]

its just convenient, if you already have rail up and trains running then you dont need anything else really

[shy mulch]

If you're just wanting to move yourself, use hypertube cannons and jetpack for landing

[hot talon]

im in phase 2 but im planning way ahead (which will be my downfall most likely ) and don't really wanna run mass power lines through the map if I can help it, but im not transporting anything to this factory yet as it'll probably be the main storage facility for my dimensional depos and consumable like jetpack fuel and ammo

[jaunty torrent]

no mass power lines? but power towers my beloved 💔

[fluid sapphire]

rail looks much cleaner for long distance power transport

[jaunty torrent]

who needs clean anyways

[fluid sapphire]

i do

i need everything to be neat and orderly, if a bit chaotic xd

in terms of architecture

[jaunty torrent]

I like my power towers, even if two locations are connected by rail

[jaunty torrent]

you don't wanna see my save rn

[hot talon]

im mostly building on the outskirts of the map on the water anyway so thats why I thought do a train arounds the map make it look scenic a little

[jaunty torrent]

I don't think I've ever used the world grid

[hot talon]

i do just for that piece of mind if i go to expand and join factories together im fine

[fluid sapphire]

🍝 ? here is how i mostly build
#screenshots message

[jaunty torrent]

part of my issue is I've never got far enough through on a save to have buildings of that scale

I almost got there once, just before 1.0 came out and I restarted

[fluid sapphire]

i build small buildings the exact same way

i just try to be as modular as i can

which lends itself to bigger scale

[sterile blade]

I've finished the game several times and yet never built anything at that scale during a "normal" playthrough
Different objectives for different tastes ^^

[fluid sapphire]

note these are not something i built at the start of the game, there was a point where i scrapped everything, and build bigger with the tools i had

[jaunty torrent]

I have not once in my life used the blueprints

[fluid sapphire]

why build a thing 1000 times if you can do it once and be done with it

the same setup with a couple machines, power connections, splitters, mergers what have you

[jaunty torrent]

cause I never build things 1000 times anyways

[fluid sapphire]

you definitely do it often enough for having blueprints be worth it

[jaunty torrent]

I build slow factory, then I sit

and then I get to phase 4, realise that won't work anymore, and have a mental breakdown

[fluid sapphire]

phase 4, my permanent phase

i could "finish" the game faster by building smaller scale, but im here to build stuff, so why rush - but blueprints do help with building more stuff quicker

any task that i need to do 10 times or more is a job for a blueprint