satisfactory

[cedar portal]

I use the Encased uranium Cell recipie, you can feed the extra Sulfuric Acid into another machine. The ratios are nice and even.

[wet totem]

I am so far into this build (weeks already) that there is no way I am making any adjustments until I'm up and running. I'll screenshot the whole recipe and drop it in the screenshots channel.

done

[boreal musk]

whats there to see? ss your setup, not recipes

[wet totem]

I'm half way done building the 64x manufacturers for the Infused Uranium Cells, then the 64x manufacturers for the Uranium Fuel Units, then it's just building the power plants. everything else is done and running except for this silica problem

[wet totem]

My setups are all over the map.

I can screenshot the silica setup, but I think I've already been given a solution for that which I am now going to build out

[boreal musk]

your distilled silica ?

[winged walrus]

why there is no satis tools site for 1.1?

[south sinew]

because there's no need

[wet totem]

Sure, I'll screeshot that for ya

[south sinew]

unchanged from 1.0

[wet totem]

I dropped the screenshot of what I thought would work

you can see the failed priority merger there

[boreal musk]

certain someone will cry seeing that pipe setup

just separate the waste and fresh

[wet totem]

I have not yet mastered the more artistic aspects of this game.

Here's where I'm at: I completed the entire space elevator game. Then I collected 100% of the slugs, spheres, and sloops. Now I want to build enough power to be able to do whatever I want. Once the power is up I'm going to focus on aesthetics and such.

seemed like a nice path.

[dense violet]

I'll ignore your pipe crimes. But soranei is right. Create a speerate blender that only uses waste water

direct feed is fiddly

[wet totem]

tell me what the "pipe crimes" are? I do want to learn.

I assume you are referring to the fact that they are not perfectly straight and such

[dense violet]

It's just quite mess xD And direct feeding waste water isn't ... the most reliable option

[wet totem]

yeah. I agree about the mess.

[winged walrus]

i just realized that i need 1300 iron ore per minute but my conveyors are only 480 so i'll have to make the production smaller

[dense violet]

honestly though your pipe crimes are pretty minor. Just using a valve to direct feed.

It's something that can work but it's like spinning a plate and hoping it doesn't wobble away

[wet totem]

oh, I thought I'd try the valve as a fix. It didn't.

[dense violet]

nah, they aren't great at stopping back flow

a powered pump would be better but still not what I'd call 'reliable'

[wet totem]

You guys are really great, thanks for the help.

I also tried adding pumps thinking they'd control pressure, but again no go

[dense violet]

pretty much any time you have waste by product that is used in a previous step? just creating a split in the system is your best option

[wet totem]

surely separating the fluids will work. I'm embarrassed not to have thought of that myself.

[boreal musk]

you can pretty much do that with 3 480 belts, no?

[dense violet]

almost no one thinks of that initially. Don't worry xD

I certainly didn't

But I did have the luck that my first direct feed system worked right off the bat

[winged walrus]

i can but i have only 2 pure iron sources

[dense violet]

you mean miners?

[winged walrus]

all other iron sources are very far from me

[dense violet]

do you have some copper near by? or water?
you can change the recipe to output more ingots

[wet totem]

I've burned through almost an entire pad of lined paper building this project. I love it.

[dense violet]

I do want to use the distilled sillica loop at one point for silica Circuit boards and crystsal computers. Just a massive output

[winged walrus]

i use the copper source for many other resources, i hope i have enough

and i don't think i need those 7.5 frames per minute

5 is enough

[boreal musk]

you dont use that much copper for alloy iron

and you can also turn some of the iron for copper alloy

[nimble viper]

is this an official discord?

[winged walrus]

why not

[shy mulch]

yes

[dense violet]

well you could do iron alloy, or pure iron ingots to stretch it out

[winged walrus]

no water nearby but i found 140 copper/min

this is enough

but i'm soo lazyyy

5 heavy frames per minute is much easier

[dense violet]

iron alloy is very easy

[winged walrus]

okay

[marble cypress]

It turns out I need double the canisters I have to make my machines go 100%

From 41k to 82k

[elfin pasture]

does annybody know how to get rid of that fundament bug with walls?

i cant share pictures, i hope u know what i mean

[winged walrus]

just used satistools site
i have not enough resources

[dense violet]

even with pure iron ingots?

[vestal merlin]

Hows everyone doing?

[marble cypress]

Doing pretty well, just trying to get my plant online. Slowly

[sick dragon]

Gonna have to be a bit more specific....

[winged walrus]

nevermind, i'm stupid again

forgot to enable the alt recipe

[dense violet]

it happens 🙂

[winged walrus]

happens too often to me 😭

[elfin pasture]

idk i replaced my walls for glass walls und u can see the floors glitching thru the glass (can i send a pic of that in dis discord?)

[winged walrus]

#screenshots

[elfin pasture]

ive send a vid

[barren leaf]

so are drones just better trains? i guess they have less inventory space but are faster perhaps?

[fluid sapphire]

Same way a fork is a better spoon

[fathom geode]

hey i have a suggestion for new build that we need
sense we have the dimensional depot can we add a dimension exporter basically a dimensnal depot but in reverse uses the same stuff but instead of storing things it exports things to where ever you need select resoruces
it uses a mercysphere the same frames etc but with smart selector instead so you chose what thing you want in what location you need it and its so much easier then using storage containers and unesseary long convayor belts

[fluid sapphire]

This is what trucks, trains, drones etc are for

[unkempt blade]

you should take that to https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/ and either create a ticket or upvote an existing one if there is one

[cedar portal]

I doubt they will add item teleporters as drones are already close to that and it would make too many other transport options obsolete. But I'm sure there is a mod for it.

[winged walrus]

just use what you like more or fits more, both are good, none are better i think

[barren leaf]

fair enough

[winged walrus]

drones don't need rails but carry less items if i'm not mistaken

[unkempt blade]

more importantly, factory carts are better than trains AND drones

[winged walrus]

yeah lol

they don't need fuel

and cheap as hell

[unkempt blade]

and adorable AF

[winged walrus]

yeah

have you tried to put a cart into sloop augmenter

[unkempt blade]

no but I tried to drive them through a portal

[winged walrus]

there are portals?...

no spoilers pls

[barren leaf]

wait what da heck is a factory cart?!

[winged walrus]

thing for 10 dolalrs in awful shop

awesome shop*

[barren leaf]

OH that thingy

[elfin pasture]

ive send a video in #screenshots

[hollow hazel]

Your ordinary game engine glitch shall go unnoticed.

[cedar portal]

If you reead this channel you are going to get a lot of spolers for upcoming unlocks and mechanics because the entire game is discussed heree, except for story spoilers.

[ashen belfry]

My advice. Don't fall from the height limit in a factory cart.

[winged walrus]

there is a story?

the only story thing i heard was the mercer and somersloop interactions

[cedar portal]

Those and ADA. Keep playing 😄

[unkempt blade]

just remember that ADA has a twin and when she steps into the portal it's actually destroying not teleporting her and her twin is pretending to step out on the other side

[reef basin]

if only there was #streams-and-videos

[elfin pasture]

sorry im new

[hollow hazel]

But c suggested #screenshots thus...

[reef basin]

for troubleshooting there's #1038092680493801533

#screenshots is for showing off cool stuff

[steel quiver]

I hit the phase 4 wall because I rushed. I don't want to quit, or start over, but, the complexity....omg.... oh well

[winged walrus]

i just wanted to look at his bug
he didn't even say he wants to fix that

[unkempt blade]

take a deep breath, slow down a little, and go build a skatepark for factory carts until you're ready to continue 🙂

[steel quiver]

That...sounds like a great idea. thanks lol

[winged walrus]

get some lizard doggos, make few hundreds of factory cards driving in a small room, explore the world, get a lot of somersloops idk

you don't have to automate things 24/7

[reef basin]

FICSIT would like to have a word with you

[barren leaf]

btw im on like phase 4 tier 8 and i've yet to properly leave the original green grasslands biome, I went into the desert one a little bit but the game is so massive but for what?

is there more stuff to do after space elevator?

[reef basin]

basically whatever you want to do

[balmy rivet]

When do y’all think satisfactory will come out on Xbox??? 🤨🤨🤨

Just like I wanna know a date 😭😭😭

[reef basin]

we don't know anymore than you do

get a PC instead, PC master race ;P

[dense violet]

they are different.

Drone's power is being able to set up point to point transport with no infrastructure. You need a fair few drones for high throughput

train's super power is having a main line that goes by most of your factories and just being able to do short link ups to re use the infrastructure you've built

[balmy rivet]

Bro getting a PC is expensive tho

[young cliff]

i have a 1060 3g and running good

[balmy rivet]

Like really expensive

[dense violet]

it is an investment :\

[fluid sapphire]

You can put together a decent chonker for like 800 dollars

[balmy rivet]

Bro my PC is my Xbox hooked up to a monitor keyboard and mouse lol

[reef basin]

so are consoles

[stable warren]

i got pinged 4 times, i dont know where, i feel bad now

[young cliff]

the only word im gonna say is gamepass

[balmy rivet]

Ik but a good tower is like 800 bucks 😭

[reef basin]

ah yeah, pay per month to even be able to play 🤔 definitely a value

[balmy rivet]

Oh well they said that it’s coming out this year ig I’ll just wait

[young cliff]

but no crossplay right

[balmy rivet]

Wdym

[young cliff]

playing multiplayer with xbox and pc together

[balmy rivet]

Oh uh idk if they said you could but maybe

But Xbox does have croosplay

Crossplay*

[young cliff]

yes but i thought they sad they didnt want to do that because its easyer to put out patches on pc

but maybe idk

[balmy rivet]

They might have said that I can’t remember rn if they did or not tho

[winged walrus]

i need solid steel recipe so muchh

[balmy rivet]

Did my new tag work yet?

Oh it did

I mean we are halfway through this year I can for sure wait a couple months for it to come out

Oh I’m talking bout the console release for satisfactory

That’s what I was talking bout before confusing srry

[outer hatch]

Hello everyone! Long time watcher of the occasional videos, but only a recent pioneer myself.

I've eh-good-enough'd my way to Tier 3.5ish, and now that I have more options, I'm currently trying to ... rationalize my factory a bit.

Starting with the very basics - power, is my understanding of this workflow correct :
MK1 Pure Coal / 1/2 MK2 Pure Coal -> 120/m -> 8 Coal Generators (8*15), +3 Water Gen (if correctly agenced) into 600 MW, which should be enough to build a factory that will unlock the next tier (and their new power sources)

Correct so far?

[crude canyon]

No

[outer hatch]

😄

Figures

[crude canyon]

I just been there yesterday
I had to make 16 coal plants

But I had the MK3 belts at that point

[white dawn]

How much power to build very much depends on how "big" you build; there's no one target that'll work for everyone

Though like Spaghetto, I tend to build quite a few coal gens eventually while in Phase 2. I generally end the phase with anywhere from 48-64 coalgens, personally

[crude canyon]

I didn't even build that big. Just enough for space elevator and storage

[white dawn]

Though, again, it all depends on your build style. If you build frugally, let stuff "back up" and go idle, and/or just build stuff as needed, you can certainly get away with a lot less power

[dense violet]

I'd find 3-4 coal nodes and do about 32 coal gens at that point. You'll run through 600mw very fast

and then up it to 64 when you have mk3 belts

[outer hatch]

OK. But the 120/8/3 pattern itself is correct, if in need of replication, right ?

[winged walrus]

i had 18 coal generators, powered by one normal mk2 coal miner

[crude canyon]

After coal I normally make oil power asap.
But there's so many hard drives I need to go through at that time

[white dawn]

Heh, enjoying these trolly youtube shorts from CSS

[crude canyon]

One of the reasons I don't feel like I'm progressing fast enough is the alt recipes

[outer hatch]

Am I getting the math wrong, or is there 30/m coal missing? (19*15 = 270)

[crude canyon]

Anyone else feels like 10 mins is too much

[winged walrus]

strange

[crude canyon]

For the hard drives

[winged walrus]

i'm sure i had 18 coal generators

[winged walrus]

erm i think you do the math wrong

[outer hatch]

I typo'd 19 instead of 18, yes, but 18*15=9*30=270, right?

[winged walrus]

270 divided by 15 = 18

each generator eats 15 coal

[outer hatch]

Yes, but Isn't MK2Pure 240?

[winged walrus]

nope

[winged walrus]

mk2 miner on a normal coal ore makes 300 per minute max

always use shards on the miners lmao

there are too many slimes in the world anyway

[crude canyon]

MK3 belts have 270

[winged walrus]

yeah

what's wrong

those are cheap in that phase

very cheap, even more cheap than mk2

[stable warren]

aurora is so beatiful with the planets and stuff in the sky

[crude canyon]

Yeah you need rips for so many things

And they're kinda hard to make

[winged walrus]

which

[crude canyon]

Rips in general

They're hard to make for how much you need them

[winged walrus]

what are the rips

reinforced iron plate

i think the only use for rips is constructor

[dense violet]

and belts

and prob a few other things?

!wikisearch RIP

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=RIP

[dense violet]

quite a few things xD

[winged walrus]

is checkit an AI?

[robust thorn]

could anyone help me with some load balancing?

[winged walrus]

#1038092680493801533

[dense violet]

what's the issue?

[reef basin]

no

[robust thorn]

i need to split a belt of 20 steel pipes across 5 belts of 4.

im making an industrial beam factory

[dense violet]

google 1 to 5 load balancer, you'll find a set of simple diagrams

or just manifold it to save space and work

[robust thorn]

i found one, even on the satisfectory reddit

[dense violet]

yup

[livid kernel]

#screenshots message

[winged walrus]

satisfectory 🔥

[robust thorn]

wouldnt be efficient enough for such low amount of recources

[reef basin]

--S--S--S--S--S
  |  |  |  |  |

[reef basin]

will be same efficient as the balancer (once it saturates)

[winged walrus]

your constructors and assemblers won't use more than they need lmao

manifold is op

[dense violet]

manifolds are perfectly efficient

[winged walrus]

manifold doesn't work in mindustry, idk why

[dense violet]

in all situations

[young cliff]

is it good to build a base on the bottom left corner of the map?

[stable warren]

guys for a pure coal factory 3 smelter for 1 miner is good?

[winged walrus]

whaat

[stable warren]

well

[inland hazel]

i don't like this setup that much tbh

[livid kernel]

you can't smelt coal

[stable warren]

wa

bruh

im so dumb excuse me.

[dense violet]

... manifolds?

[inland hazel]

yeah in general

[dense violet]

they are 100% efficient, compact and fast to build

[winged walrus]

mods ban him

[livid kernel]

they're the best setup in the game imho

[dense violet]

and you don't need to plan your entire world around load balancing

[inland hazel]

they take way more time filling everything up and i end up having to wait too long in order to check whether its all efficient or not

[inland hazel]

im a masochist ig

[livid kernel]

if you meant copper or iron, a mk 1 miner with a mk2 belt can supply 4 smelters

[dense violet]

go do something else?

build another factory. explore

[livid kernel]

or preload

[stable warren]

ye alr i just really didnt think thru this lol mb but ty

[livid kernel]

np

[inland hazel]

it still feels kinda off

playstyles are playstyles

[still arch]

i bet miner mk2 will need larger space

[stable warren]

toungiee, if i use 3 splitters to make 3 converyor path to a merger then make 1 long to the coal generator, would i be faster or same speed, but maybe i can use this to feed more machnes

[dense violet]

nope can upgrade on top of it

[livid kernel]

Not really sure what you're asking

[still arch]

thank god, cuz my space already cramped

[livid kernel]

like split into 3 at the miner? or split into 3 where you are using it

[stable warren]

split it in 3 ways

but im thinking about it and it may be dumb

[livid kernel]

Your belt speed is the same regardless

[white dawn]

One thing you can do to basically completely avoid the warm-up time is prefill the input buffers, btw

Though of course sometimes that's not super feasible, depending on the material and the number of machines

[livid kernel]

it MIGHT speed up the clogging, but after that it won't change anything at all

[stable warren]

ye i realised lol

i wanted to do this orignally cus i tought i have to smelt it...

[livid kernel]

for power gen?

[stable warren]

ye

i want to get coal energy

so i can make better factories not needing to worry about fuse blown out if i use to much

i gott a get water now

[livid kernel]

just single belt from miner to a manifold feeding 8 gens

you did say pure, yeah?

[stable warren]

yep

[dense violet]

find a few coal nodes right next to water.
each start zone has a spot like that nearby

[livid kernel]

yeah, 8 gens 3 water extractors

or 4 extractors underclocked if you want to split the water

[stable warren]

you mean 8 coal generator right

[livid kernel]

yessir

[dense violet]

!wikisearch CG

[stable warren]

only ting i found is a small lake

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=CG

[dense violet]

does it have 4 coal nodes around it?

[stable warren]

no

[dense violet]

started in grassy fields?

[stable warren]

i found 1 only lemme scan and send my map

[dense violet]

head north west a ways, after acliff

[stable warren]

so there is alot of them at a spot

but its really far

[stable warren]

i get there are alot of them but its super far from my base so idk how can i get the coal from there to my base

[livid kernel]

you build the power plant by the coal

then run a wire to your base from it

[dense violet]

you burn it there, wit hteh water

why would you need ot bring it to base?

[stable warren]

uh

i realised i can make a really long wire from there

ig ima delet ethis place i made

[livid kernel]

you'll eventually have wires spanning all the way across the map

[stable warren]

"rifle ammo" from doggo

alr im aget to work

[dense turtle]

can some modded player recomend me some mods

qol vanilla friendly

[dense violet]

if you haven't gone throug hteh tiers before? I recommend not mods

otherwise

[livid kernel]

i don't mod, but the one I see all the time is infinite zoop

[dense turtle]

hteh?

[dense violet]

as in 'have you finished al lthe tiers yet?'

[dense turtle]

ah

[green summit]

hello everybody should i definitely use cast screws recipe?

[dense turtle]

but whats wrong in some qol mods before u finish the game

[dense violet]

if you want ot skip rods? sure

Basic building skills and knowledge

which changes as the game goes

[green summit]

yeah yeah i just wanted to know if anyone had an opinion ik its same efficiency i guess it just easier so

[winged walrus]

is there a way to set the conveyor mk4 in satis tools site

[dense violet]

it's less efficient if you're using Steel Iron rods.

but thats about it

[dense turtle]

the thing is

most mods i got require me to unlock them

[green summit]

ok ill see when that recipe comes around thanks

[dense turtle]

like for the infinite zoop, u need to do mam research before u can infinite zoop, rn i got like 30 range

[stable warren]

i found a way to not get fall dmg, but it doesnt work always only when u have a small rock or somethign u can slide on to lol

[dense violet]

oh yeah no sweat, though I always just use steel screws anyway xD

[dense violet]

.. ok? it's still a lot of changing of the vanilla game before going through and seeing how things are and learning

[livid kernel]

there's alts that do away with screws, I recommend getting those if they pop up

[dense violet]

it's not about 'unlocking more milestones'

But I'm not your mum, I'm just giving you advice on what I think best practice for learning the core skills of the game

I'm not going to ground you from your computer

[dense turtle]

i dont see ur point, what am i learning if i have to build 40 fundations by placing 10 4 times or placing all 40

and i already cranked 50 hours on this save its not like im just starting out

[green summit]

i got the stitched iron plate thats it

[inland hazel]

i'd say its a free country

go wild my dude

[dense turtle]

i mean its not like i want any mods that add new items or anything

i just got 2 qol mods efficiency checker and cartograph

i got some decoration mod, but idk if imma use it soon

i think i gotta watch a train tutorial and completely rework my rail system

cuz now it turns out i need to ship some items somewhere and i dont like it

[stable warren]

i cant belive this, i was so close to the coal, and igot ganged on by theese huge monsters..

[naive pendant]

The whole recommending no mods partly comes from the ability of mods to solve problems the player is supposed to solve in vanilla. Can be mentally a bit dangerous to start modding right away as your brain can go "what mod does this better". Can be perfectly fine especially qol, but can also sorta break your will to deal with vanilla gameplay friction.

But it's a sandbox game so no real wrong way to play.

[dense turtle]

or i see nothing wrong with this mod i got that with each manual craft it speeds up by 20%

it just saves some time and make things less annoying

[livid kernel]

I personally never mod games until my 2nd playthrough, but it's a single player or co-op game, so play how you want to play imo. The only time I have issues with mods/cheats is competitive games

[dense turtle]

i mean

[stable warren]

ugh it gonna take so long to make 600 bio fuel bru

[jaunty jewel]

constructor

[dense turtle]

i beat hollow knight 3 times before installing mods but theres this mod that lets u teleport to benches which are spawnpoints, and now i couldnt imagine playing without it lmao

so i guess yeah some qol mods can be dangerous mentally

[naive pendant]

My anecdote is doing a lot of editor Factorio playing to save time. Gets really hard to enjoy vanilla after experiencing the qol time saving of editor. Mods are similar. Just something to consider before diving in.

[fluid sapphire]

Faster hand crafting is not a QoL mod

[naive pendant]

Eh, kinda qol. Just cuts afk time down.

[dense violet]

it's also a direct impact to incentivise automation

[fluid sapphire]

Well, you're supposed to be automating past the very start of the game

[dense turtle]

im not automating turning sloops into power shards

[fluid sapphire]

Slugs?

[naive pendant]

The topic gets rather philisophical. Games are so fluid that a feature and a qol mod aren't really even different. There's just a linear spectrum of features that currently exist or could exist (mods).

[fluid sapphire]

Why aren't you? You're literally missing out on doubling your power shards

[dense turtle]

huh

[livid kernel]

you definitely should. Slooping can only be done by automation and it doubles your power shards

[dense turtle]

oh i forgot u can use somersloop

[naive pendant]

Like DDs are indispensible feature now. But prior to them existing you had to mod for the functionality. Were they qol if you installed the mod say 1 day before it got added to the game?

[livid kernel]

I do the same with animal remains, then animal protein too

[inland hazel]

yeah best technique ever

i just end up building a random constructor with one in the middle of my factory for that

[livid kernel]

just have a slooped constructor tucked away with an input and output box, change the recipe to what you're wanting doubled

[livid kernel]

basically same, I just have a permanent one next to a sink. I add a belt to the sink merger when I make DNA capsules

[fluid sapphire]

Cut out the manual labor, just have boxes where you throw whatever in (slugs, protein), and let the machinery do the rest

[dense turtle]

is there some tool i could use to remove all of a said building from my world? i wanna rebuild my rail system but i dont wanna follow all of my 5km of rails and destroy them

i heard sum about interactive map doing wonders like deleting deconstruction chests

[livid kernel]

I think you can on the SCIM? I've never done it, but heard people talk about it

[fluid sapphire]

I don't think SCIM has filters for deleting stuff

I have wanted to do something similar and have not been able to

[dense turtle]

oh wait but then it would delete my other line and i dont want to

i guess i was meant to cut manual labor, but its time to do it all by hand

[fluid sapphire]

If it's just 5km do it manually? That's really not that long

[dense turtle]

it really is

[fluid sapphire]

You could probably do it in like 10 minutes fr

[dense turtle]

maybe yeah

[inland hazel]

or play 4d chess and set up smart splitters connecting to constructors for every alien organ

[fluid sapphire]

That's the correct way to set this up, no 4d chess about it

[dense turtle]

the hell is 4d chess

[fluid sapphire]

It's meme-speak for big brain move

[livid kernel]

big brain euphamism

[inland hazel]

for me it is, i'm already used to just pull out the classic janky constructor every time i need to process dna

wait it actually is

[livid kernel]

It is, but 1) I don't have that many sloops and 2) not sure where I'd want to put that line

[fluid sapphire]

Doesn't matter where it is, it's so easy to move around in this game, as for sloops, just find more?

[inland hazel]

i'm sloop bankrupt

[fluid sapphire]

You can always relocate it later

[livid kernel]

I normally explore while waiting for elevator parts, I will get more when I finish the tiers I'm on

[inland hazel]

i spent my sloop life savings in power augmenters

[stable warren]

I DIED 2ND time because i looked away and fell down

[winged walrus]

should i build augmenters too

or they're crap

[inland hazel]

and getting sloops in that process you're not always going to use seems like a waste now tbh

[hard ivy]

They're very easy power, but usually not the most efficient use of sloops

[winged walrus]

why does augmenter has an input

[livid kernel]

buff it with matrices

that question REALLY gets asked a lot on here lmao

[hard ivy]

Matrix input. Makes it 3x better

[naive pendant]

The REDACTED goes in the square hole.

[inland hazel]

using somersloops for production really take a toll on your power consumption though

augmenters are the best, energy wise

[hard ivy]

Only useful when you've got 100+ GW of raw production tho

[livid kernel]

once you get into later fuels, powers kind of a nonissue

[winged walrus]

what is the GW

[hard ivy]

Doubling uranium rods, for example, is more power per sloop than an augmenter until you hit like 400 GW

[livid kernel]

1000 MW

[winged walrus]

million?

[hard ivy]

1000 MW

[winged walrus]

oh okay

[dense turtle]

did u satisfactory players ever dabbled in some modded minecraft

[steady glade]

ye

[inland hazel]

i personally like to run into my augmenter's lasers when i'm bored

[livid kernel]

technically a billion actually

[inland hazel]

would do it again 10/10

[winged walrus]

i'm a minecraft modding expert heheh

[dense turtle]

recently i realised satisfactory is what i was looking for, its modded minecraft on steroids

[winged walrus]

after finishing satisfactory try gregtech

[steady glade]

nh

[winged walrus]

it's like satisfactory much more more complicated

[dense turtle]

ik gregtech

im an ae2 expert

[livid kernel]

I go back and forth between Satisfactory and CoI

[winged walrus]

optifine is the best mod ever

[dense turtle]

i even spoke to some devs and they changed sum in a update but i think imma stop here because someones gonna call me out for being offtopic

[inland hazel]

if satisfactory also happened to be like modded galacticraft it would be the best game ever no cap

[dense turtle]

there are much better mods that let u have shaders

[winged walrus]

that was a ragebait

[dense turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-ragebait-rage-bait-jarvis-clip-that-jarvis-meme-gif-11046632004782930587

[winged walrus]

haha embed fail

[dense turtle]

okay yeah what was i expecting

[inland hazel]

epic embed fail

[hard ivy]

Nah, they're just not allowed in this channel

[livid kernel]

it's funny how the bot deletes any links not whitelisted, but allows gif links even though it won't show them

[dense turtle]

the bot set me up

[dense turtle]

okay it wasnt that bad

took me 15 tho

[wet totem]

another very bothersome thing I can't solve. I can't figure out how to place blueprints well. let's say I have a blueprint that is two foundations wide and 6 foundations long, with a railway built on it. I cannot for the life of me place the blueprint. No matter where I aim my mouse, the hologram is never where I need it. For this reason I have not used any blueprints. What am I doing wrong?

[white dawn]

If you mean re: the shot that got put into #screenshots , btw, sftools only gives you a logical view of the factory chain; it doesn't even attempt to show you implementation details (like miners, belt speeds, what have you)

With sftools graphs, it's up to you to decide how to split things up and how to belt it, etc.

IME solvers which do try to accomodate that kind of thing (like satisfactory-calculator's "physical" view, or whatever it's called) generally end up giving you graphs which are an utter mess

[livid kernel]

you can pick what you want shown though

it does default horribly if you put it on realistic mode, but I turn off splitters and shit when I use it

[white dawn]

In that particular graph, fwiw, centralizing screw production in practice is often not recommended anyway

Make screws directly in front of the machines which need them, IMO. Don't manifold it, don't try to route 'em around the factory. Just make the exact amount of screws that the next machine needs, and send those directly in.

[winged walrus]

eh satis calculator is ugly

[inland hazel]

are you trying to place it on like terrain

[wet totem]

not usually.

[dense violet]

tap h to lock the hologram, then use keys to nudge

[wet totem]

Yeah, I get that. my problem is that I can't even get the thing close. and the verticle alignment is always a problem'

[inland hazel]

you should send a screenshot

[dense violet]

you can vertically nudge now.

do you ahve a hover pack?

[dense turtle]

yo i found nitrogen for the first time holy

[stable warren]

im starting to be mad, i died 4 times on the way to the coal place

[wet totem]

How to verticle nudge? and yes, I have everything unlocked.

[smoky forge]

shift

[hard ivy]

pg up/down

there should be tooltips on screen tho

[fast cove]

Can I go from tier 6 to 9 in a week? I just upgraded to phase 3 and it’s looking very complicated phase 4

[wet totem]

maybe there's a setting. I don't have these. I'll look.

[hard ivy]

yeah, you should be able to remap the keybindings

do you have a 60% keyboard or something?

[wet totem]

omigosh I've found it.

huge

THANK YOU

[stable warren]

bruh i was building water extractos then i got killed

[tawny flare]

I can't use a custom swatch as my active swatch?

[peak wasp]

Wdym

[stable warren]

i found a thing called summersloop

[tawny flare]

When I right-click on the default swatch presets, I can set them as active, but I can't do the same for the ones under "Custom."

[unkempt blade]

should be possible but depends on how much you can scale up and how much you're playing/how long you leave your game running

[tawny flare]

basically free coupons with animal dna xD

[spice patio]

That single Custom swatch is meant for one-offs, not for regular use, and doesn't allow for being set as default.

[fast cove]

Can I ask how long it took you?

[stable warren]

i got brutally killed by 10 spiders

[tawny flare]

so i gotta change one of the default ones?

[spice patio]

The lower down ones also work.

[unkempt blade]

my 1.0 game we rushed to the hoverpack/mk5 belts then started doing more decorative stuff so longer than a week

[spice patio]

Just not that single "Custom" one in middle.

[tawny flare]

alright, thanks.

[spice patio]

That Custom is only one where the result isn't tied to the swatch.
So if you color one thing as blue with Custom, then change that Custom to red, that first thing doesn't change color.

With all the rest of the swatches, the colored stuff just links to the swatch.

And any later change to single swatches colors changes all buildables colored with that swatch before.

[unkempt blade]

you'd mostly want to look at the total resources needed for the 4th package and focus on those if you're rushing to T9

research is going to be easier than the package stuff

[spice patio]

So if you set Swatch 1 to blue, color something with it, and then change Swatch 1 to red, all the things colored with that swatch change color to red.

[fast cove]

Oh ok, I just don’t want to be grinding when college starts in 10 days

So I want to finish the game as quickly as possible

[peak wasp]

Godspeed. 2k+ hours and haven't beaten it yet.

[fast cove]

Uh oh

Maybe I should take it slow

[unkempt blade]

lol how many times have you started over though? 😄

[peak wasp]

Nah, go at your own pace. I just like being meticulous.

[dreamy bane]

so there is this resource node that is supposed to only be 150m away from me but i cant find it and it the marker on the hud seems to move around really fast as i approach it

[peak wasp]

First save was early access and had over 1k hours. Beat EA. On my second save now (1.0) and am almost at 1k on it. Currently on the final phase, but I'm taking my time designing things.

[dreamy bane]

am i blind or is it right under me or something

[peak wasp]

It's either below you in a cave, or above you on a cliff

Could also be a geyser/oil node

[dreamy bane]

do uranium nodes have random patches of uranium around it as a indication?

[peak wasp]

Oftentimes, yes.

[unkempt blade]

I think EA package 4 was harder than 1.0 package 5 was. We had our EA saves running for AGES filling 4 up

[peak wasp]

So much pasta. So many thermal rockets. My god.

[unkempt blade]

and the depot significantly reduced dead time going back and forth for materials which was nice

[dreamy bane]

well i cant find the node tho i did find the green spider which was exorcised using nuclear nobelisk 😩

[peak wasp]

I no longer need central storage! It's truly the single most life changing feature for me.

[peak wasp]

Some of the uranium nodes are sneaky. Look for cave entrances that aren't exactly close to the scanner marker.

[unkempt blade]

@fast cove I grabbed my 1.0 save from my dedicated server host and it looks like we were around 170h when we finished the game but it definitely wasn't with a speedrun mindset

[fast cove]

Oh that’s not bad, I feel like I can make it if I speed run

I need to make a good optimized system and just afk

[stable warren]

its gonna be so stupidly annoying to go to the coal and water place 1.5km away and to sometime die and keep oging back bruuh

[viral niche]

how do i change quickslots?

[barren dove]

Alt scroll

Or in Q menu hover above an item and press number

[tawny flare]

How can i add depth to my walls?

[sick dragon]

Use foundations and other parts

[fluid sapphire]

Keep moving your hub closer

[fiery viper]

so uh when ima get satisfactory for free?

[stable warren]

buy it, its worth it

[fiery viper]

got no money no credit card 😭

ik its worth it the game looks so good

[viral egret]

guys how do you handle the input to your mega factory? do you have buffers? what's the design? it seems a little too simple to just have a bunch of belts ina row, no?

[cedar portal]

I have a bunch of belts coming in, I put my buffers where the items come in. Buffers next to train stations, next to drone platforms.

[viral egret]

by buffer do you mean just a container?

[cedar portal]

Trains need buffers to even out the load/unload block time. Drones, well, I just like buffers.

Mostly I use buffers because wwhen I'm working on my factory I suprisingly often break something and don't notice right away and buffers give me time to fix it before everything comes crashing down.

A factory working properly doesn't need any buffers but that would require me to be way better at planning and not mixing numbers up.

[reef basin]

Buffers are practically pointless apart from train platforms

[fiery viper]

Basigon why the red flag tho:/

[cedar portal]

A well-designed factory doesn't need them, right. Throw in human error and they become useful. 🙂

[viral egret]

if my belt is 120/min, and each smelter is 30/min, that means i can manifold a max of 4 smelters per belt, right?

[reef basin]

Get money then

[cedar portal]

I still like building mostly on the ground. it may look messy but I just can't bring myself to cover up all the pretty scenery.
#screenshots message

[fiery viper]

bro im under the age of 18 how do u expect me to get money let alone a credit card plus im just trying out my luck i

i only joined the server if it provided free giveways

[viral egret]

this is not the place to beg people for money or to trauma dump personal life problems

let's not do that

[reef basin]

Ask parents to do chores for money, or neighbours. Not sure about your country, but here we can do not-really-jobs for money (e.g. stocking shelves, spreading leaflets, etc.)

[fiery viper]

go dms since i dont wanna discuess in this server

[reef basin]

It doesn't

[viral niche]

how much does one synthetic power shard cost?

[reef basin]

No thanks

[fiery viper]

k

[reef basin]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/codex/items/power-shard

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch power+shard

[viral niche]

💀

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=power+shard

[viral niche]

thankuu!

lizard doggos generate slugs too rightt?

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch lizard+doggo

[viral egret]

they left the server lmao that was fast

[stable warren]

||join a steam family thats how i play it||

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=lizard+doggo

[viral niche]

💀 wtf

when i was 16 i already had 4900 euros in bank saved up

[fiery viper]

wdym steam family

[viral niche]

by workin

[viral egret]

average roblox adhd kid mentality

[fiery viper]

u cant get a job in my country where people under 18

[viral egret]

hwo tf are you still here???

[stable warren]

its an option where u can share ur games and others sahre their games with the famil

[fiery viper]

im talking to larry not u

[stable warren]

thats how i play 223 games

[fiery viper]

oh aight ty

[viral niche]

also debit cards are accessible for under age 18 since you dont need income lmao

[viral egret]

bruh please at least dont talk in this chat, go to offtopic

#off-topic-general

[stable warren]

yo guys, what do yall think im tryna make a coal energy factory far away, and i will need to connect it to the main base, and i thought i could make a super long path on the air with foundations and i could go there and i could also set the wires up on the foundation path, is that dumb?

[viral egret]

i do that, it's not dumb

[cedar portal]

If you think it will look neat and/or have fun building it... then it's not dumb.

[stable warren]

okii thanks

[viral niche]

i allways do circle builds for coal factories

[humble osprey]

Dawgggg

Lmao that was something

[viral egret]

i should try that actually

[stable warren]

cus its like so far away, and it takes longer to walk there then ever cus its thru a super long forest and everything

[humble osprey]

How do I always manage to just miss the drama

[viral niche]

ill show ya give me a moment

[humble osprey]

What???

What does that even mean

[viral niche]

#screenshots

i got many others throuh this is my latest save

[viral egret]

that's dope

[viral niche]

10x10 circle has space

for 35 coal gens

[viral egret]

if you could put buildings horizontally i'd make it look like an engine

[viral niche]

• you just need 270 / x 2 conveyors with coal

[crude canyon]

I gotta say
I think people who use this game to build cool creations are cool

[humble osprey]

Yes!

I'm not one of them tho

I make whatever and get thru shit asap

[cedar portal]

I'm sure we can start some if you wwanted. Hmm, lets see...

Hey guys, I heard in update 1.2 belts will need power.

[crude canyon]

I however, like to basically speedrun this game from iron to aluminum

My record was 75 hours for phase 5

[stable warren]

ye i didnt see what any1 wrote

[viral niche]

where is the fun in that 😄

[humble osprey]

Whenever I get demotivated from the complexity, I watch a video of how it's made or something similar

[viral egret]

#screenshots message this is correct for mk2 belts, right?

[crude canyon]

I get the hoverpack earlier

[viral egret]

no overclock

[viral niche]

mk2 belts are useless af

mk3 way cheaper 😄

[humble osprey]

They should nerf petroleum power to make nuclear power actually viable

[crude canyon]

MK2 wants rips
The issue is
EVERYTHING WANTS RIPS

[ruby mountain]

120/30 =4 so yeh

[crude canyon]

Smart plating, modular frames, coal generators, assemblers

[viral egret]

dont have them, plus mk2 are only 1 reinforced plate, pretty much free

[hard ivy]

Make more then

[viral niche]

im just teaching my boyfriend how to play this game

i got like 600 hours already 😄

[humble osprey]

Imagine... Just hear me out... Give fuel burners some byproducts 👅👅👅👅

[viral niche]

he had a crash out early on cause he was producing biofuel by hand

[stable warren]

man i hate the fact my coal stuff are far away from water its much more complicated now 🙏

[cedar portal]

hah. Seeriously tho... I'd like nuclear power given a buff. Massively reduce the cost of ficsonium rods to make them viable.

But byproducts from fuel gens, ok thats evil!

[humble osprey]

Or even worse, make fuel gens more complicated to set up. Imagine having to set up giant and expensive oil rigs to actually get the oil into fuel

[white dawn]

Solution: put the coal stuff near the water. :)

[viral egret]

i already had MK3's materials unlocked and didnt know, kill me

[humble osprey]

What stage are you at

[viral egret]

3 and 4

[humble osprey]

Yay

Good luck

[viral egret]

like, phase 1, tier 3 and 4

[white dawn]

Ficsonium rods are already viable. Ficsonium rods are specifically for folks who 1) Want to use Plutonium power, and 2) Still want clean nuclear. That's it! That's Ficsonium's niche. The fact that it's also net-power-positive on its own is just a little bonus. Plutonium's already a bloody juggernaut of power; we don't need power solutions which are more powerful than that

It's relatively trivial to build far more power than you'll ever use with either Rocket Fuel or Nuclear already

There's just no niche for a power solution which is even better than either of those

[humble osprey]

Wait, how is ficsonium clean nuclear energy?

[white dawn]

Burning Ficsonium Fuel Rods produces no waste

[crude canyon]

Ficsonium gets rid of plutonium waste

[hard ivy]

It doesn't make any waste when burned

[viral egret]

wait 270 is a bit of a weird number... is it like... 9 smelters? weird...

[stable warren]

smart. havent tought of that -_-

[white dawn]

That's the entire advantage: being able to use Plutonium power while still remaining "clean"

[crude canyon]

Think of it like 240 +30

[viral egret]

what do i do with the other 30 tho...

[white dawn]

If you don't care about "wasting" Plutonium rods, you can instead just sink those Plutonium rods, of course. But for folks who don't like leaving that vast reservoir of power untapped, Ficsonium lets you do it while still not accumulating waste

[crude canyon]

Whatever you want

[viral egret]

9 smelters is ass||ymetrical||

[white dawn]

(If you either don't care about burning plutonium, or don't care about accumulating waste, then yeah, Ficsonium is definitely not for you. :)

[cedar portal]

My problem wwith ficsonium is that choosing to recycle urainium waste into plutonium rods and sink them feels good. It's a fun process to build, and doesn't take an absurd amount of resources. That makes uranium power with no waste useable. Ficsonium should be the same, alling you to run plutonium with no waste but it's so bloody expensive it just feels BAD. Feels unbalanced and not worth it.

[hard ivy]

You can ignore it. Run the belts at 240

[white dawn]

I personally strongly disagree that sinking plutonium rods feels good

I've made these rods, I'm gonna bloody use the suckers. :)

[viral egret]

well that's waste tho... hmmmmm

[white dawn]

Leaving plutonium power on the floor just 'cause you don't want to accumulate waste is a real wrench. :)

[viral egret]

it's not satisfactory to have waste

[cedar portal]

But now you have to stick them into containers or use truly awful amounts of resources to get rid of them

[white dawn]

I get that people wish that Ficsonium was something that it's not, but it's clearly just designed for the confluence of "I want to burn Plutonium" with "I want clean nuclear"

[hidden berry]

Hi guys, anyone have info of console release?

[humble osprey]

I thought it made ficstium or something

[white dawn]

Right: the most powerful power-generation in the game should have downsides

Either store the waste, or process to Ficsonium.

Ficsonium's the way to do it while remaining "clean"

[stable warren]

my paths almost done! (to the really far coal plant thing)

[cedar portal]

It already has a downside, it's very complicated and more resource intensive to set up compared to smacking down 100 fuel generators.

[hard ivy]

The downside is already the complexity

It should be at least cheap to make up for that

[white dawn]

Ficsonium was never meant to be the ultimate omg-I-can't-believe-how-much-power-these-make final solution

It's meant to be "I want to burn Plutonium" plus "I want clean nuclear"

[cedar portal]

In your factory, how wmany plutonium rods are you burning and are you storing the waste or converting to ficsonium?

[humble osprey]

Wait I'm confused. I thought plutonium produced ficsonium??

[cedar portal]

I want to burn plutonium and have clean nuclear but don't want to use every sam node on the map

[white dawn]

Honestly don't remember; finished up that playthrough more than half a year ago. :D

[cedar portal]

It does, but the cost in materials and energy is pretty crazy

[hard ivy]

Puls 34 sloops to double it all

[white dawn]

The energy cost of Ficsonium doesn't matter, since Ficsonium is net-power-positive

Sure, it's the least-energy-efficient power production out of the whole game, but you still get more power than you put in

And, as a bonus, you get "clean" burning of all the Plutonium

[cedar portal]

A single 250% slooped machine making ficsonium peaks at 27gw

[white dawn]

Again, it's: 1) Burn Plutonium, 2) Stay "clean." If you don't want both of those, then yeah, Ficsonium's not for you

And that's fine! I'm not trying to convince anyone to build Ficsonium who doesn't want to

But it's very specifically designed for that exact niche

[stable warren]

dann this is a super long path

atleast i dont gotta go thru a super dense forest

[peak wasp]

One thing at a time.

[white dawn]

And sure, I agree that Ficsonium is absolutely insanely SAM-hungry, and you'd have to figure that into whether you want to build it or not. c'est la vie! Having interesting choices to make is fun

[stable warren]

what do u mean

[cedar portal]

It's not an interesting choice to me becausse between the SAM and the huge number of singularity devices you end up using most of the resources on the map. I see it as horribly unbalanced, there is a readon hardly anyone uses it. I have 75 uranium reactors running, reprocessing that into fisconium just isn't an option, not enough stuff on the map to do it

[white dawn]

If Ficsonium were somehow required to win the game, or something, I'd agree that it's unbalanced. But it's not! You're the one to choose whether or not to use it, and whether the material cost is worth the confluence of Plutonium+Clean

Obviously you come down on the side of "it's not worth it," but for me personally it totally is

[cedar portal]

Uranium reactors are not REQUIRED, you can do it with fuel but it rewards you for the challenge of building it. Ficsonium is just not worth the effort.

[white dawn]

I really don't need that much SAM for other stuff anyway, so on my 1.0 playthrough, at least, I happily processed into Ficsonium

[shy mulch]

@cedar portal in your #screenshots what's going on at the sam node? I can't zoom in enough to see properly. Is that just a miner straight into a drone port?

[white dawn]

For you.

[peak wasp]

I thought you meant the path to ficsonium.

[burnt ferry]

istn ficsoniuum necessary for mk6 belts?

[hard ivy]

no?

[white dawn]

Nope, just nuclear power

[cedar portal]

Again, I wish you had some numbers for what you did. We have no way to compare your challenges to mine. I am burning 9 Ficsonium rods/min which was fun to build but there is no way I could burn the output of all 75 reactors.

[burnt ferry]

but it was one of these fics* materials, no?

[hard ivy]

ficsite

[white dawn]

It also doesn't bother me that there's a technical max to the amount of Ficsonium you can produce

[lavish lance]

you dont need ficsonium for anything but wasteless nuclear power.
But it cant even do that right because its too costly for the job

[white dawn]

If you're at that scale there's almost no way to even use that much power regardless, so you're just building big because you enjoy it

[hard ivy]

you don't even need it for wasteless nuclear. you can sink plutonium, which is both cheaper and easier

[viral egret]

#screenshots message this is so unbelivably satisfactory, it looks like an engine i love it

[white dawn]

So the fact that there's an inherent limitation doesn't bother me at all

[lavish lance]

sadly.
Ficsonium in its current state might aswell not exist

[cedar portal]

I'm using 300gw of poweer right now. I think our difference of opinion is how big we build. You don't see it as needed for your factory, but I do for mine.

[white dawn]

Again, the whole point of Ficsonium is "1) Burn Plutonium, 2) Clean." Yes, of course you can sink plutonium, but that automatically means that you're not in Ficsonium's target market

[stable warren]

can i somehow elevate pipelines so the converyors wont clip with the pipes?

[cedar portal]

Maybe for a small factory thats your view, but for people who need a lot of power and want to use plutonium with no waste... ficsonium is usseless, it's too expensive

[white dawn]

I don't see 300GW as overkill, when TW-scale power was already possible

[cedar portal]

You told me there is no way to use all that power at that sacle, i was telling you yes there is

[shy mulch]

I feel like a good challenge would be to USE the most power, rather than just producing it. There's plenty TW builds out there producing massive excess power. But don't think I've ever seen anyone actively using more than half a TW. Would be interested to see who can use the most power

[cedar portal]

I'll probably max out at 500gw at some point, and could if I could burn plutonium but it's just too expenssive to do so. You're right, wwhats the point of making all that power if you can't do anythign with it because all your resources are tied up with making the ficsonium poweer?

[burnt ferry]

engaging in a 'you dont need that'discussion is pointless for this game (and lots of other agmes as well)

[white dawn]

With slooping SAM there's enough on the map to process 379/min Plutonium Waste

That's a hell of a lot more power than 300GW. :D

[cedar portal]

Have you ever tried? Do you know how many sloops you need to do all the sam on the map?

[white dawn]

(And yes, yes that's maxing out some resources which would prevent you from having Plutonium Waste to give in the first place)

[white dawn]

85

[cedar portal]

Yeah, wee we are back to the problem of you needing to use most of your resources to reprocess the waste, not leaving any left to actually make things with.

[hard ivy]

My issue with ficsonium isn't that you don't need it, my issue is that there's way too little incentive to use it.
currently, the only reason to make ficsonium is "I specifically want to make ficsonium and don't care about the costs or benefits"

[white dawn]

I just don't see limitations being present when building at that scale to be a problem

You could just as easily say "there's not enough sulfur" or "there's not enough bauxite"

Of course you don't need Ficsonium. You also don't need Plutonium, or Uranium,

Or Rocket Fuel, for that matter!

[cedar portal]

The problem is it's not worth it for what you get out of it. Which is very little once you add up all the power costs to make it in the first place.

[white dawn]

There's a lot of end-game stuff which is entirely optional

[cedar portal]

But uranium and rocket fuel are USEFUL, they give you power. Ficsonium just eats resources.

[white dawn]

It's worth it to someone who wants to 1) Burn Plutonium, and 2) Have clean nuclear

How much you value those two things is up to the person, but that doesn't have zero value

[cedar portal]

Only if you have a very small factory.

[white dawn]

Ficsonium does give you power, both in the form of "clean" Plutonium and the extra power you get out of Ficsonium itself

[stable warren]

Alr, i connected converyors to the coal generator, current goal: get more copper sheet to also get more pipe, and get 2 more water extractor

[nimble viper]

playing on a slightly older version and im wondering how to get glass floors

[white dawn]

When there's theoretically enough SAM to process over 370/min Plutonium Waste into Ficsonium, I don't buy the "very small factory" angle. :D (And again, I fully admit that that 370/min number would mean that you're doing literally nothing but Ficsonium, so the effective number's lower, but still)

[cedar portal]

Minus the massive cost to produce it, which makes it useless unless all you wwant to do is max out power... which still isn't useful since you could use the SAM to just make more uranium. There is no use case for ficsonium except "i want to make fisconium"

[hard ivy]

My opinion on ficsonium would be basically the same even if it cost 0 MW to make it.

[white dawn]

And: 1) Burn Plutonium + 2) Clean Nuclear. :D

[cedar portal]

Which is my point, if you go the ficsonium path you are ONLY making that, meaning it's worthless to make it for power, it's a usless product that is just made to make it.

[white dawn]

I feel like you just don't believe that such a person exists. Dunno. But my supporting evidence for that being the obvious, intended niche for Ficsonium is the game itself

And I don't feel like my factories were "very small." Question of personal scale, of course

[cedar portal]

I have not seen anyone doing large scale Ficsonium as a power source for a factory doing things.

[white dawn]

But IMO the vast majority of players are building at a scale that they'd be perfectly capable of 100% ficsonium conversion if they want

This channel attracts people who like to min/max things and exhaust resources, so I think that the opinion here is sometimes skewed

Folks who want Ficsonium to be a juggernaut just wish that Ficsonium is something that it's not.

[cedar portal]

Yes, small factories, sure. I am also making a small amount of fisconium. But it's useless for large scale power.

[fluid sapphire]

Is this code for pirated the game

[cedar portal]

I just want it to be useful, like uranium, and plutonium, and rocket fuel, and coal, and biomass. All those things give more than they cost,.

[hard ivy]

hell, it's useless for small scale power too

[white dawn]

Again, indeed, possibly a difference of scale. I would still absolutely stand behind the sentiment that for the vast majority of players, 100% Ficsonium conversion is entirely feasible

Anyway, got stuff to do. Cheers! :)

[cedar portal]

Yea because the vast majority of players aren't making 500gw of power. But you can't just say that part of the player community doesn't count.

You can't say it's feasable to have 100% ficsonium conversion but then say (only for small factories)

[viral egret]

#screenshots message so does that mean... at 10 iron plates per minute in, with a 240/min belt, i need... 24 assemblers??

that cant be right

[hard ivy]

this is 10 plates per 3 reinforced plates

[south sinew]

the task list says nothing about time

[hard ivy]

not per minute

[south sinew]

yes

[viral egret]

oh

ok makes more sense

[south sinew]

stitched iron plate is 18.75 iron plates per minute

so ~14ish assemblers for 240 iron plates/min

[naive pendant]

DDs kinda make that notes feature less necessary, needed.

[viral egret]

18.75?? how the hell do i get to 18.75?? i HAVE to overflow in this case, no?

[south sinew]

why would you want to get to 18.75

just make 13 assemblers and accept that the last one doesn't run all the time or underclock it

[viral egret]

cause... idk, cause i like it when it's perfect

okayyy

[radiant swallow]

is the turbo pressure recipe worth it?

[hard ivy]

it's not bad

I'd use electric tho

together with electric motor

[radiant swallow]

but that one needs so many radio control units

[hard ivy]

true

[south sinew]

I prefer rigor motor over electric I think

[hard ivy]

your choice in the end

[pastel carbon]

If you do the maths (or ask satisfactory tools), you'll find that it doesn't need that many

But yeah, all 3 turbo motor recipes have their merits

[radiant swallow]

huh

i mean i need 10 more radio control units

[hard ivy]

it is still 3x more than pressure

[vague sparrow]

I've been using turbo electric, but yeah it eats radios like no tomorrow

[hard ivy]

but electric doesn't need FMFs or nitrogen, or tanks

[radiant swallow]

that is quite a bit of alu casings i need to make

i need to make another entire ass alu casings factory

[vague sparrow]

You need alot of alu casings anyway, they're not too bad to make in bulk

[pastel carbon]

Ah, if you compare it to turbo pressure motors, that makes sense

[south sinew]

you need a lot a lot of alu casings

[vague sparrow]

Like every recipe needs 30-60 alu casings >.<

there are some alternatives

[radiant swallow]

if i use the pressure motor recipe, i can somersloop it and get double the turbomotors i needed

[stable warren]

YESSS all the pipes and converyors are connected to the coal generators!!

[cedar portal]

Aluminum casings are one place I spend my precious sommerloops

[radiant swallow]

i need 10/min and with the pressure recipe i only need 2.6 manufacturers which is perfect

welp that settles it then lol

[radiant swallow]

i need so many it's obscene tbh

but now i need a lot less since i don't need to make 60/min anymore and more like....30

[near frost]

From 1-10 how bad is it when you have to make an entire machine just for that 0.05

[radiant swallow]

depends on how hard you OCD kicks in

i look at less than 0.5 and ignore it

[cedar portal]

My nuclear reactor reprocssing had 4 blenders that did ssomething like 400 waste/min and i was making 400.5. 😦

It was literally 0.5 too low. Was heartbreaking

[near frost]

Damn

[radiant swallow]

yyeeaahhhh that is something i wouldn't ignore sadly. those 0.5 too little processing is gonna back up and that is bad lol

[near frost]

I would just refund at that point

[radiant swallow]

under the line i always just look at something this way: is it important to get rid of something? i will build more than i need

is it something to produce something? i will ignore 0.5 or less

[near frost]

I realy think they should make a way to filter specific amounts of items just like valves and pipes

[radiant swallow]

i mean we got the smart splitter

[cedar portal]

Yeah, I had 6 blenders, needeed like 6.01 so went to 8 so I could still divide things evenly and neatly

[frail thistle]

so a sushi pipe 🤨

[near frost]

Why no?

[vague sparrow]

This is actually not a bad idea, I am stealing this xD

[reef basin]

because that's part of the game's challenge, intentionally

[hard bloom]

is 1200 steel ingots per minute too much?

[near frost]

I mean like make it use an item that is so hard to make/find and make it super late game and by that time already yoy should need something like this

[reef basin]

yes, I'd do 0, they are not really needed for anything

[reef basin]

you never need something like that though

[viral egret]

can i make sure wires are placed in a straight line somehow?

[near frost]

Options are nice

[reef basin]

but imbalanced options aren't

[hard ivy]

I've never needed a belt limiter tho

[near frost]

Idk I thought it would be a good idea

[stable warren]

guys. i wanna make a clean pipe ways, how can i make it so the pipes from different water extractor are next to eachother, but i cant make it cus it keep connecting to other pipes

[reef basin]

99% of time when someone asks for this, there's an easier/simpler option to do the thing they need it for

[stable warren]

acc nvm

[vague sparrow]

hold CTRL

or pre-place the supports

[hard bloom]

Sorry I did my math wrong, 1215

[stable warren]

yep i found out ty tho

[reef basin]

make steel products, not steel ingots

[hard bloom]

well you need ingots to make the products

[reef basin]

yeah but make as many ingots as you need for the amount of products you want to make

[hard bloom]

im just trying to gauge how much others are making to see if its over kill

[vague sparrow]

1215 is alright, you'll need a ton of steel beams

[stable warren]

YESS i made it go up im starting to understand alot of stuff in this game

i need rotor now 😭

[vague sparrow]

I think in my last save i made 1600ingots p/m and I was still short on beams

[hard bloom]

is the molded steel beam recepie good or is there a better alternate?

[hard ivy]

you don't need many steel beams tho

[reef basin]

well it depends what you want from it

[hard ivy]

well, depends on recipes

[vague sparrow]

well I was making heavy encased frames

[shy mulch]

you can build your own filters using smart splitters and mk1 belts, to output any increment of 60/min

[vague sparrow]

so I needed alot, for a decent p/m rate

[hard ivy]

yeah, it's best to use exacly 0 steel beams for those

encased industrial pipe is a much better recipe than default

[hard bloom]

just sheer quantity of beams whats the best steel + whatever else to bem ratio

[vague sparrow]

hmm I might try this, I haven't used that recipe, pipes are easier to make in bulk

[reef basin]

there's really no ratio, just make what you need now, later on when you need something, make that

[vague sparrow]

I think it's good if you have limestone nearby, think you need alot of concrete though

[astral knot]

shit. i cant put water into the awesome sink

[vague sparrow]

package it?

[hard bloom]

fr

[hard ivy]

sinks only take items. and not all of them either

[vague sparrow]

or that doesnt work?

[shy mulch]

recycle it

[astral knot]

or maybe theres another way to use this residual water. im currently trying to make aluminum scrap

[hard ivy]

use the water for something useful instead of sinking

[vague sparrow]

wet concrete

[shy mulch]

send the water to an input that needs it

[vague sparrow]

sulfuric acid

[willow birch]

you'll need to math it, but you can recycle the water into your inputs

[hard ivy]

or use a VIP

[white dawn]

Okay, dug up my old savefile now that I'm back; my nuclear setup was producing 450GW gross (350GW net) (Uranium: 90/87, Plutonium: 240/223, FIcsonium: 120/41), and my savefile in total, without any RSAM slooping, was using about 60% of the map's SAM

These numbers are 100% feasible; neither the map nor my computer were getting stretched by this, and I've got a relative potato

(Well, okay, by the time I finished the save I was getting occasional FPS dips, but eh)

Total gross power production on the map, w/ my rocket fuel and such was about 600GW

[vague sparrow]

Think it also dpends where on the map you are, some places i got 150fps, others 70 😛

[white dawn]

And I've never tried to imply that people who build huge "don't exist," but I also just don't care if building huge ends up imposing some limitations

Like, sure, there's a cap to how much Ficsonium you can make. So be it! There's a cap to how much anything you can make

[vague sparrow]

I think this game is pretty well optimized, you can push it pretty far before it becomes borderline unplayable

[white dawn]

By the same token, you also can't pretend that the vast majority of players don't exist. You called Ficsonium "useless" but that's just not the case. It sounds like I wasn't building at scales too far removed from you, and Ficsonium was just fine, and exactly what I wanted to do (ie: burn Plutonium, clean nuclear). I've wanted a Plutonum+clean option for awhile, and now I have it. If I'd started slooping RSAM I could've easily doubled my nuclear power production, too

Just because a recipe/system/whatever doesn't work for you doesn't make it useless

[junior flower]

why is there an input to the alien power augmenter?

[white dawn]

You can feed it Alien Power Matrixes at 5/min to increase its power augmentation from 10% to 30%

[vague sparrow]

You can unlock another item that you can input to get 30% boost

[junior flower]

ok thanks

[white dawn]

Note that APMs are pretty power-intensive to make; there's a threshhold under which producing APMs doesn't make sense. :)

(And at that threshhold, the power difference would be zero!)

[reef basin]

recycle it back

[white dawn]

It is well worth constructing some APMs just to get the enhanced animation on the APAs, though, even if you don't need the extra power boost. :D

Could always produce 'em slower than 5/min and then save them up for a bit, so you can take in the glory for a little while

The real reward isn't the 20%, it's those sweet FX

[frozen cloud]

i mean thats like getting upset at someone calling biomass burners in tier 9 useless
like yeah someone might do tier 9 with only biomass burners
that doesnt mean that its a good idea to do it
just like ficsonium isnt
if you want clean nuclear sink plutonium
if you want power after tier 8 do rocket fuel
doing ficsonium is just like biomassburners, worse than the other options
doesnt mean you cant do it, i did it cause ikealamps on belts and a nice challenge
id still call it useless

[cedar portal]

I take it you are slooping your Plutonium Cells and your Plutonium Rods to get 240GW of plutonium from 90GW of Uranium?

[white dawn]

Nope, zero slooping in the nuclear chain

I was using Fertile Uranium, which was in hindsight a mistake -- on a pure GW-per-uraniumore metric, I'd've been better off shifting more into the Uranium step

But by the time I noticed that I was halfway through the build, so I figured whatever.

[cedar portal]

What's your fuel cycle then? I'm confused, as I'm doing 187GW from 15 Uranium/min, which recycles to 5.625 plutonium fuel/min which only would give 140GW. Is my math wrong?

[white dawn]

I wanted to burn Plutonium, and I wanted clean nuclear. Ficsonium fits that use perfectly

[frozen cloud]

i means sure
thats on the same level as "i want to use biomass burners"

[hard ivy]

you can make between 0.25 and 1.333 plutonium rods for every uranium rod burned (no sloops)

[white dawn]

I mean, in the end I just disagree. Plutonium can be huge, and I like having clean nuclear. shrug

[ruby mountain]

isnt the only advantage to fertile that it makes more plutonium?

[white dawn]

What I'm saying is that Ficsonium wasn't a lift. It was a decent-sized build, yes, but it was exactly what I wanted in my factory

[cedar portal]

I must be using a less efficent recycling. I burn 15 uranium and get 5.625 plutonium.

[white dawn]

Yeah, really beefs up the Plutonium step. But in the end, if you're using all other nuclear alts, it'd be better to send that extra ore into the Uranium step instead

[ruby mountain]

yeah

[white dawn]

(And if I had skipped Fertile, I'd've needed even less Ficsonium, which makes it even more feasible)

Anyway, I've spent way too much time arguing about this again today. :D

[hard ivy]

yeah, that's 0.375 Pu/U, which is more than 0.25 and less than 1.333. within range

[white dawn]

Gonna shut my gab for once and move on. :)

[cedar portal]

Well I'm impressed you built that. I'm looking at what it would take for me, I have twice the uranium reeactors so that would be twice everything else.

[hard ivy]

bro's using 60% of the SAM for a power plant making 1/7th of the uranium I want to make. like yeah, of course there's enough SAM for that

[white dawn]

The 60% figure does include all the other SAM I was using for other stuff on the map, too

I'd have to dig further than I care to at the moment to separate out how much I'm using specifically for Ficsonium

[frozen cloud]

i never got the max power builds
why not go for max sink points and actually get something for it

[white dawn]

(gods, so much for shutting my gab)

[hard ivy]

I get a big number on the graph

[cedar portal]

Well this is no longer arguing, and is noww discussing math 😄

[hard ivy]

the same thing sink points will give me 😛

[frozen cloud]

so do i xD (on the sink graph)

[white dawn]

But that's sort of my point: without slooping, I'm only barely over half of the map's SAM usage. That's not bad! Who cares if it's a higher percent than other resources?

There's still a lot of headroom, and with sloops there's a lot of head room

Anyway, sheesh, shutting gab for real now. Gotta get some work done sometime today. :D

[abstract forge]

rail signals are whining that they cant be put at the end of railway, but if i extend the railway, put in the signal, then remove the extension, will they work fine when blueprinted?

[cedar portal]

I just finished my 10 alien power matrix/min factory... letting it build up a container or two before turning it on. That will be a nice boost AND I can tear down some of the power boosters and use the sloops elsewhere

[hard ivy]

I made the mistake of making 50 Matrices/min before calculating Ficsonium properly.

[stable warren]

hell ye i got coal energy!!

[hard ivy]

Needless too say, I would've needed like 300% of the map's SAM to build everything I wanted

[cedar portal]

is there any way to seperate a factory section to measure it's power? I'm guessing not easily without making seperate power generators for it? or batteries?

[blissful echo]

Anyone know why platforms and all sorts of things are disapearing on me? They come back after a relog but it keeps happening.

[cedar portal]

Same, wwhen the upddate first hit I spent DAYS building up the infrastruture, and it wasn't until I built the last machine to actually make it that it hit me just what I had done.

[frozen cloud]

9/10 people using 2100/min uranium xD

[hard ivy]

using 2100/min on uranium and plutonium is not that hard and not that expensive

using it on ficsnoium is impossible without deliberately wasting it

[frozen cloud]

its still a pretty big build that i feel like a lot of people underestimate

[hard ivy]

I could probably do it in 100h now

[cedar portal]

I was sso excited and then so dissapointed. Oh well, I have a small 9/min Focsonium plant running which while it's not much power, makes me feel accomplished 🙂

[hard ivy]

I'll only feel accomplished if I max it

which is why I made mods 🙃

[cedar portal]

400GW total, 45GW is the Ficsonium. Sad.

[gritty spire]

making a rail intersection, the rails are yellow saying they are clipping. will it still work?

[hard ivy]

9/min is 22.5 GW

and costs like 15 GW to make

[cedar portal]

Plus the 22.5 GW from burning the Plutonium

[hard ivy]

plutonium should be 45 GW tho?

unless you slooped the Fics

[cedar portal]

I wouldn't have done it if I hadn't built up the infrastructure to support it before realsing how terrible it was, so just left a small bit of it running.

[cedar portal]

Oh yees, I slooped it. I'll probably un-do that since it gains me something like 5GW after the cost of slooping LOL

But I have a surplus of sommerloops atm so it's stuck around for now

I just did the math on that half an hour ago. Looping my final Ficsonium machine tok it's aveerage power draw from 2.5GW to 10GW and increased the power generation from 12GW to 24GW. So... net +5GW, awful.

[frozen cloud]

xd

[vague sparrow]

Had to make a separate factory uploading 1440 quartz p/m just so I can place 1 floor blueprint every 2,5 minutes 😅

Glad i just unlocked mk6 belts

oh man, I forgot I also need 1200 reinforced iron plates per placing -.-

[frozen cloud]

wtf is your floor blueprint
a fucking skyscraper?

[gritty spire]

what the hell are you making

[placid stirrup]

Probably 700 signs

[vague sparrow]

#screenshots message

Yeah, a power skyscraper of sorts

[gritty spire]

man what da

[vague sparrow]

2200 rocket fuel into generators, 4x10 high

I went a bit overboard with the signs I think, but it's going to look nice, I hope xD

[hard ivy]

at 10 FPS, maybe

[vague sparrow]

Will find out once it's placed

[placid stirrup]

What are the walls gonna look like?

[vague sparrow]

idk yet, I' m thinking glass something

designing as I go

[placid stirrup]

Double or triple paned glass might look cool so you can just barely see the disco floor inside

[vague sparrow]

I'll try some stuff once I have a couple floors placed, also need to figure out how to route the piping

@placid stirrup #screenshots message #screenshots message This is what the front-end looks like, I forgot to place the diluted fuel on the world grid though -.- I was already finished once I realised my mistake

[rustic otter]

is there a way to reduce the frame drops whenever i look towards my mk1 blueprint full of batteries?

[vague sparrow]

close your eyes

[rustic otter]

i recently set it up cause i need it to reboot my feul plant cause i gotta rework the piping but while i wait for them to charge everytime i look at them my frames drop from 60 to 20

[rustic otter]

why didnt i think of that thank u!

[vague sparrow]

xD

[hard ivy]

walls

[rustic otter]

aight

nvm its 5 frames

[vague sparrow]

walls stop the rendering? Or how does it work? I'm curious

[hard ivy]

yeah, if you can't see it, the game doesn't render it

[vague sparrow]

I see, so it's like closing your eyes 😅

In a way

[rustic otter]

its better

but its hard to place the walls

[vague sparrow]

press H and nudge them in place

once the first is there, you can just zoop

[rustic otter]

no its hard cause the frames are low but ive got one wall done and its significantly better

[vague sparrow]

how many batteries are there that you are going to 5 fps??

or are you running on a lower end pc?

[rustic otter]

2060 and a ryzen 5600

32 gigs of ddr4

yay my frams are normal!

[vague sparrow]

Nice

Yeah 2060 is a bit older, you could probably get a good AMD card for not too much money

[hard ivy]

especially used

though that depens where you live

[vague sparrow]

Yeah, price/performance on amd cards is 1000x better than nvidia

[hard ivy]

where I live, used AMD cards are generally not worth it

basically nobody sells them and they're almost normal price even several years old

[vague sparrow]

I got a 7800 XT new for 400 euros, im crying rn because the new 9070 XT gaming is 700 >.<

compared to the 5090 for like 2,5k lmao nvidia is a joke

2.8k actually

[hard ivy]

lucky you. that's how much a used 6800 XT would cost me

[vague sparrow]

6800 XT is about the same as the 7800 though, the 6800 series was very good

I think the 6950 XT something has even better specs than my 7800 xt and would cost like 200 more

Nvidia are probably pricing that high because 95% of their customers are datacenters for big corpo

[fiery violet]

@winged walrus I prefer using satisfactory modeler over calculators because I can set everything myself
(Message about in #screenshots)

[versed plinth]

hey guys

how should i go about making the more advanced parts like quantum computers and turbo motors? im trying to use satisfactory modeler and i feel pretty lost

[vague sparrow]

Look at the raw ingredients you need and find a good place on the map which has those together, from there try calculating it from raw to end product and see how many you can make

unless you have a certain p/m you want for end product then you might have to ship in more resources

[versed plinth]

im struggling to figure out the "raw ingredients" part

[vague sparrow]

depending on how much infrastructure you have built/want to build

[versed plinth]

like how to get down to that point

theres just so many freaking parts involved

[vague sparrow]

browse through the codex to see which recipes you want to use

[versed plinth]

and so many alternate recipe options

[vague sparrow]

yeah, it takes some research, write some stuff down