satisfactory

[humble osprey]

how did u get ur conveyer to glow

[cedar portal]

Mk6 belts

[humble osprey]

mine are red tho

u can change their color??

[jaunty jewel]

yeah

same way you change everything else

[boreal musk]

try putting a super color on your belt and see what happens

[cedar portal]

@mortal ginkgo I use manifolds in 99% of my factory, but in this case I need to make sure i can feed 100% of the output to whatever needs it at the time. This lets all the 5 input lines get sent to any of the facilities. It's a mess I admit, and I made it before mk6 belts were available so was a lot more important then.

[mortal ginkgo]

no worries, I am just teasing

[cedar portal]

I wouldn't have posted it if I didn't want comments and to respond 😄

[mortal ginkgo]

yeah but I used you for my own personal gains; wanted to see if I can type manifold with emojis.

life is tough bro, gotta live with it

[cedar portal]

Heh. I really should rebuild all that.. with mk6 belts it could be a lot cleaner.

[barren leaf]

should i make my steel pipes and beams 2:1 or is that overkill?

[boreal musk]

build how much you need

[fluid sapphire]

pipes are probably more widely used

[barren leaf]

hmm they craft fairly fast actually

[shy mulch]

try to make it in such a way that you can adjust the ratio later, unless you're going all out and planning everything for the future, best to be flexible

[barren leaf]

ok so i decided to underclock my first foundry to 30 ingots per min for pipes and my second foundry to 90 ingots per min to both bank a steel beam and create industrial beams without any pause. Hows that sound?

[white dawn]

So long as you're happy with it, sounds great! :)

[undone crow]

If I want to tackle nuclear, should the calculations be based on 50 uranium fuel rods a minute?
Edit: It's a new save for a new challenge. I finished the game with rocket fuel and want to create a new save for the purpose of creating a big nuclear plant.

[cedar portal]

I make 9/min and thats enoough for making 20 warp drives/min along with running the rest of my factory with plenty to spare. Although if you just want to make as big of a plant as possible, go for it.
Edit; Oh, heh.

[undone crow]

Yah I've never tried it before so I wanted to tackle something new.

[white dawn]

Honestly I'd just plug some numbers into sftools and get a feel for how big your factories are gonna get, and think about what you're willing to set up. :)

50/min Uranium rods would certainly qualify as a big plant for most folks. If you're looking for a very chunky project that would certainly fit the bill!

[undone crow]

Do you happen to know how many rods Imkibitz's project is producing? If you happen to follow his series?

[white dawn]

Don't follow, no clue. :)

[cedar portal]

50 rods is 250 100% reactors. People who DON'T think thats a big plant scare me.

[undone crow]

Ok so I think his project is a bit larger than that. And yah, he's been putting out videos on it for months. It's scary.

[limber crag]

Does having a conveyor pole or pipeline support help or hinder blueprint auto connect? (One side only not both)

[green fiber]

shouldnt hinder it at least

its just a connection point for belts and pipes to go to when building

autoconnect ignores them i believe

[willow glen]

This is ALL the uranium on the map.
Try using just one impure node first. Otherwise the project gets so big you might need more power before you can even spin it up

[undone crow]

Yes and I'd need to convert to more to recycle it.

The first challenge would be to build it. However many hundreds of hours that would take. The second challenge would be to consume it.

[willow glen]

Building times vary widely depending on how fancy you’re making your inside and outside architecture. Floating platforms would take a few dozen hours. A cyberpunk paradise would take at least a few hundred.

[white dawn]

Oh hah, yeah, forgot that that's basically max uranium. :D

[willow glen]

notably walls at least double my build times

[limpid orchid]

#screenshots message, It cant get any Worse right?

[willow glen]

that is certainly a thin tower lol. Usually I’d use more horizontal space before I went vertical, but if that helps you organize things better go for it!

[limpid orchid]

But does it go any worse in the future?

[lean ferry]

I completely regret making 240/m packaged rocket fuel

High risk high reward but wtf you mean 30 refineries 8 blenders 2k mw power usage

The only thing that’s motivating me is drone empire

[cedar portal]

Ionized fuel. Drones gotta go fast

[lean ferry]

New recipe added to game!

Sanity

ionized fuel 120/m

[rocky sierra]

is there a way to tilt glass windows vertically?

[willow glen]

Only if you make it that way lol, I mean you can build tall or wide or both, it’s user choice. I’m making some assumptions about your style here, but maybe multiple mini towers like that that each produce a different thing? The game isn’t forcing you to keep building upwards lol

[white dawn]

Maybe via beams or traffic barriers. If not those, then you might need mods (I think "Infinite Nudge" gives you more rotation options.) Folks in #design-and-architecture might have some tips that I don't know about, too

Though generally if there's funky build stuff going on, it's beams

[zenith kestrel]

Where would plastic be found near hard drives?

[grizzled lotus]

I'm at that point in the game where I'm lost between trying to automate/optimize old stuff and build new stuff

[green fiber]

build new first.
so your old stuff can keep producing in the meantime

[burnt ferry]

is a fluid buffer demanding head lift for its height?

[ocean socket]

Beat the game once already. Like he said above. Build new first, then go back along the chain and boost what's struggling.

Fluid buffer doesn't give head lift if I remember right.

[grizzled lotus]

I connected my Modular Frame factory into a Heavy Modular Frame factory, and now I have no modular frames

[ocean socket]

You need the pumps.

[ocean socket]

Go back along the supply chain

[burnt ferry]

ye it applies with what ive seen so far, but i was explaining my buddy the other day how it works and when we looked at the pump the headlift was increasing while the buffer was filled...

[ocean socket]

Follow the belts and you'll find the problem.

[grizzled lotus]

I think I need more factories

I also moved out to a different location for phase 4, and realized I need to move out again for bauxite

[green fiber]

yes.
8 m for small, 12 for industrial, but thats the max
its proportional to fill height

[ocean socket]

Headlift is how much higher the fluid needs to pump I think.

[grizzled lotus]

so my "factory" is getting big, and I'm dreading building mor railways

[zenith kestrel]

Is there plastic near hard drives anywhere?

[green fiber]

supposedly yes but i dont know of any places

[burnt ferry]

hm.. i think the reason i havent seen any issues so far is mostly i had pumps involved anyway... and it could explain why people have trouble with the big one as that means you cant put one at the same level without pumps

can i place the buffer lower? headlift is always relative to the output, no?

[green fiber]

yes

[zenith kestrel]

Thanks i wonder if the map will show it online

[green fiber]

if the buffer is 8 m below the source, you dont need any extra head lift to go back up

[burnt ferry]

so when putting the big buffer at least 2 meters lower, i could a) fill it completely and b) also fill consumers at the same level as the output, hence 2m above where the buffer is build

[green fiber]

ok but why use the buffer is the question

[burnt ferry]

ah ok. ye thats what i assumed... so there is an easy 'fix' for the big fluid buffer

[green fiber]

buffers inline is also not the best use.
they should go onto the side

[burnt ferry]

how do you mean? put buffers every few consumers?

or i mean.. not necessarily many

[green fiber]

junction on the pipe, split
buffer on the side

[burnt ferry]

ah

parallel

[green fiber]

not "pipe goes into buffer, comes out the other end, continues on to the machines"

yes, parallel, not serial

serial buffers are causes for slosh

[burnt ferry]

i cant complain when using pumps.. but i now have a situation where the producer of the oil is above everything, so i really dont want to use any pumps this time 😂

[green fiber]

well then you wont need pumps or buffers if everything is below it

[burnt ferry]

but i can tell that it is beneficial to let the buffers fill before consuming them the way i did it so far..

[willow birch]

It’s random locations for each run. You can use SCIM if you want to find out.

[green fiber]

you can put a buffer to the side in parallel in any case if everything is below the oil extractor

[zenith kestrel]

Do i just upload my save and search that way?

[green fiber]

whether it does something useful here is not really the question.
it likely doesnt do much

[burnt ferry]

youre probably right.. my refineries werent running fluently though, so i started building them buffers and wanted t find that out for good.. but actually i found out that i forgot to connect one of the pressure extractor outputs with a junction 😂

[green fiber]

yeah please if you have pipe issues dont let buffers be your go-to fix for it

[burnt ferry]

when i played with my bud i permanently left unconnected splitters and mergers behind 😂

its up to the point where he looks without asking whether i forgot again 😂

[dense turtle]

ayo i just found some purple ore in a cave

[zenith kestrel]

I uploaded my save, but is there a way to search for said plastic lol

[green fiber]

mine it
eat it
consume

[burnt ferry]

i mean i see what you mean, but puts finger up actually.... youre always solving some kind of issue, otherwise you wouldnt build the thing 😂

[burnt ferry]

could be quartz

[ruby mountain]

I cant find a way without mods...

[burnt ferry]

found one in a cave where there is also #@#$%@#$

[green fiber]

theres a priority list of things to do and check to "make your pipes act good"
buffers shouldnt be number 1

[grizzled lotus]

are all the unique things in the AWESOME shop worth buying?

[green fiber]

do you like decorations?

[burnt ferry]

agreed.. but dont be so verbatim.... ...... .... 👹

[dense turtle]

but these big spiders are insane i just screamed like a baby

[burnt ferry]

ye.. playing with passive aliens

they smile at me while i kill them

[grizzled lotus]

not really? though I saw a factory with color pipes and they looked nice

[willow birch]

Go through the menu on the side. There’s a lot of tabs to go through. Not at home rn to screen shot

[dense turtle]

nah im turning on arachnophobia mode that was crazy

[green fiber]

then most of the awesome shop stuff is useless to you.
Most of the things in the awesome shop are just building pieces for decorations.
though some do have utility, like ladders and floor holes and walkways

[burnt ferry]

i heard they become much more terrifying animals then

[dense turtle]

damn i mined the SAM and no aliens talked to me through my girl, strange

fuh

[burnt ferry]

you should abuse the shop to push milestones then

[zenith kestrel]

Seems like i can only see the hard drive locations and not whats actually there as items but this should work,

[burnt ferry]

you cant see whats inside without scanning, its random

[dense turtle]

nvm

[fathom shuttle]

I have 16,700 nuclear pasta in storage

[fast cove]

What happens if I delete full chest with my inventory full? Where does the item go?

[fathom shuttle]

How many coupons do you guys thinks that going to be

[burnt ferry]

in another chest

[willow glen]

Chest on the ground. Try it and see

[burnt ferry]

chestception

[grizzled lotus]

what about the cart or mug?

[green fiber]

fun stuff

[zenith kestrel]

Are you responding to me lol

[green fiber]

ultility is limited

[burnt ferry]

you storage manager of maggi?

[burnt ferry]

ye... no map can tell you whats inside the harddrives on the map because that is rolled when you scan them

[zenith kestrel]

Oh i want the materials around them

[burnt ferry]

you can actually cheat a reroll bey savereloading

[zenith kestrel]

Not the hard drives themselves

[burnt ferry]

i havent seen a map showing it but thats in fact not random

[frail sleet]

Kibitz is using the wrong recipe which massively increases his costs for no reason

max nuclear or max power uses converters to get way more uranium though, either for wasteless or waste. 3 figure amount of uranium rods.

Just using the uranium on the map it's 50.4 rods but that leaves the vast majority of other resources untouched.

[jade scaffold]

wow, I'm just noticing I am at 1,043 hours of play time in satisfactory, between the two on Epic and one on steam

[white dawn]

That is, indeed, how Satisfactory do.

[burnt ferry]

i can tell you that in my new savegame with a bud of mine we started north east.. and the harddrives we found close by had endgame mats (electrical rods, heat sinks, turbo motors etc) around them very often.... more often than when i scouted for harddrives around the beginners area southeast

[fathom shuttle]

7 sinks set up

8400/min pasta sink rate

This is going to be very interesting

[zenith kestrel]

Roger thanks

[fathom shuttle]

1354 coupon

[frozen cloud]

did you just say 8400/min pasta?

[burnt ferry]

conveniently all higher plateaus had walkways close by as well

[willow glen]

is there actually enough copper on the map to support that?

[fathom shuttle]

Oh wow it’s like one coupons per second

1405 coupons now

[white dawn]

If you've been saving up pasta in some ISCs, you could maintain that kind of rate so long as your stores haven't run out yet. :)

[fathom shuttle]

Let’s goo I just maxed out int32

[zenith kestrel]

Welp i just hit phase 2 finally, now i can actually get into plastic

[marble silo]

a

[white dawn]

Max pasta with SAM conversion but not sloops is ~134/min. :)

Not sure exactly how far sloops could multiply that, since I assume that chain is maxing out several resources

[fathom shuttle]

2,147,483,648 p/min

[burnt ferry]

like i said to the other guy, abuse the shop for mats to push milestones and unlock things.. plastic is VERY cheap (comparatively)

[fathom shuttle]

Btw each coupon costs 92m now lol

[zenith kestrel]

o7

[burnt ferry]

find a stack of turbo motors at a harddrives -> 49 coupons

[zenith kestrel]

I gotta better automate steel and the previous mats for the most part

[fathom shuttle]

The great sink has ended
1453 coupouns

[burnt ferry]

i recommend pure iron ingot plus solid steel..

[fathom shuttle]

All that work for just 99 coupons lol

[zenith kestrel]

Ill have to get more hard drives then lol

[burnt ferry]

and then the molded recipes for pipes and beams

[burnt ferry]

just leave harddrives undecided to block the recipes from rerolling.. i did that strictly in my current save game and.... boy..... do i have WASTED harddrives before 😂

[zenith kestrel]

Undecided?

[burnt ferry]

ye like when you dont want neither of them recipes, dont pick any just for the sake

keep them in the library, so the next harddrive wont roll these recipes again

[zenith kestrel]

Ahh okay

I...didnt know that

Okay well damn ive wasted several

[burnt ferry]

we reached the maximum recipes before beginning of phase 3 very quickly with that (as in phase 3 new recipes will be unlocked)

[stray loom]

It's fine to pick something if you're going to immediately use it right away because it makes your life easier

[burnt ferry]

dont worry.. there will be enough and the strategy will pay off very quickly, so its never too late

[stray loom]

If you don't know whether a recipe would benefit you then you just sit on them

[frozen cloud]

mam also unlocks a bunch

[burnt ferry]

or if you just want to try something out.. because you dont loose anything, all recipes will be unlocked eventually

point being: you want to use it right awayh, otherwise dont pick it yet

[cedar portal]

Anyone else getting terrible FPS and blocky flickering leaves in the trees at the swamp, seems to be wose at night or with fog.

[stray loom]

Like if one of your first hard drives comes up with cast screws you take it and don't even think about it because it makes life easier in phase 1 until you can find other alternates that remove screws

[cedar portal]

From 60fps down to 18

[zenith kestrel]

I think my first drive WAS cast screws lMAO

Was a no brainer

[fathom shuttle]

#screenshots message

[burnt ferry]

you should checkout steel screws though

[fathom shuttle]

Got enough coupons to buy all statues now

[burnt ferry]

they can be more efficient if used with the right recipes

[willow glen]

My FPS dips from 60 to 40 occasionally, there’s a lot going on there. Play around with some settings, see if changing any help without making the game worse. In my case lowering shadows helped a lot, ymmv

[burnt ferry]

or steel rods and make screws from those.. steel recipe output in general is a lot higher than iron

[white dawn]

No such thing as "wasting" a hard drive; there's more drives than you can use in the game, so you'll unlock everything eventually anyway

Personally I feel like unless you're specifically looking for one recipe, it's not worth leaving them unredeemed. I'd rather have the enhanced set of choices to use while building, so I just flip a metaphorical coin, redeem it, and move on

[cedar portal]

I get 60fps most everywwhere, but the swamp just kills it. But sometimes it runs fine... something enviomental, and the trees in the swamp have a lot of blocky alpha glitches

[solid mural]

i just watched the entirety of deadpool 2 about 3/8ths through building a coal power plant the size of uranus and finished the movie to come back and be so unbelivably lost on what i was doing before i decided to watch deadpool 2

[white dawn]

(If you are looking for one specific recipe, then yeah, it definitely pays to reroll and then leave them in your library until you get the one you want, and I do that sometimes too. But once I've found the one I'm looking for, I'll basically always go back and clean out the library)

Since alt recipes are all about options, I'd rather just have all the options right at my fingertips, instead of locked away in a MAM interface I don't look at much

[dense turtle]

i build such a complicated factory in one run im scared to give it power cuz idk if it will all work

[white dawn]

Fortunately, Satisfactory is a forgiving game, and even if you screwed something up, it'll be fixable. :)

[frozen cloud]

yes and no
if you know what you want then you can get away with only needing like ~60 hard drives so you dont have to explore nearly as much
but for new players they dont know what they want and exploring is fun so 🤷

[dense turtle]

this one whole building uses 400MW holy shaise

[white dawn]

For me there's very few recipes that I know that I'm definitely not going to use. If you're building all over the map, you're gonna have factories in all sorts of situations, and it's an extremely rare recipe that I don't find useful on occasion. So I'd rather just keep redeeming even now that I'm quite familiar with the game

And I'm gonna be out there hunting spheres+sloops anyway, so I'll be getting a nice influx of drives regardless

[frozen cloud]

i always just pick the recipe i find best and then choose the location based on that so i dont really use different recipes

[cedar portal]

@willow glen Esample of the glitching leaves, and really low FPS even looking at the sky. The leaves seems to be the issue, if I jetpack up enough so I don't see them the FPS recovers.
#screenshots message

[white dawn]

Ah, yeah, I use different recipes frequently, depending on where the factory ends up

[frozen cloud]

like if i realize i dont have enough iron then i dont use pure iron, i just go to a different spot (or belt more iron from further away)

[white dawn]

I admit that is bolstered by generally following the Independency stuff I won't stop bringing up constantly. :D I'm not centralizing anything, really, so each new factory is an opportunity for different recipes

Keeps things nice and fresh for me, too.

I'd find a factory making 2000/min of something rather boring and tedious, but if over the course of the game I can split that into five factories all doing 400/min, and have the opportunity for different production chains in each one, I find that far more enjoyable

[frozen cloud]

ah i see

[white dawn]

(That's a rather hyperbolic example, but for instance on my 1.0 save I had three different HMF-production sites, etc)

Lots of opportunities for switching things up

[unkempt blade]

Gotta keep things fresh! Variety keeps your brain from rotting as quickly

[fathom shuttle]

HMF are very easy late game with blueprints

[unkempt blade]

just need to roll a dice for each step of production and go with what the dice tells you

[frozen cloud]

"HMFs are easy if you can copy paste them"
xd

[dense turtle]

imma now go take a shit and pray all 3 final outputs are in the container

[leaden turret]

number 1s, number 2s, and tp?

[white dawn]

honestly, that is probably now my all-time favorite recontextualization of an otherwise innocuous statement

[leaden turret]

[open pollen]

I would hope the shit would end up in the toilet (the container)

[dense turtle]

chat

the container is empty

[open pollen]

Are your bowels ok? Must be constipated

[willow glen]

Well I think you’ve narrowed down your issue then; find what adjusts foliage quality and adjust it down a notch. also looks like you’re extremely late game so all the extra machinery is adding a bit more lag too (tho your “game ms” looks fine, so I’m not entirely sure that’s the biggest factor here).
Also check to make sure you’re on the latest graphics drivers for your card.

[dense turtle]

chat i forgot cables

chat i forgot reinforced plates

[cedar portal]

Thanks, will tr that. yeah, this is a 1200 hour save. The devs did an amazing job on optomizing though, before the 1.0 branch hit I was getting 30fps even in the middle of nowhere due to the game time being so high.

[dense turtle]

are long distances between machines unhealthy for productivity

[white dawn]

Nah, just means there'll be a bit of lag before things are spinning at 100%

Once the long-distance transfer method is saturated, it'll be just like they're right next to each other (whether that method is belts/pipes, vehicles, trains, or drones)

[open pollen]

No, you just need to have belt speed that meets the needs of the machine(s)

[dense turtle]

okay everything is working rn

now maybe in 2 years i will complete phase 2

i mean like 1 hour n half

[open pollen]

You could go explore for things while you wait. That’s what I do at least

[dense turtle]

yeah, and i got a whole factory to rebuild

cuz it runs like shit down to my container

[open pollen]

Why rebuild when you can just make new ones 😎

[fathom shuttle]

Finally solved the issue with the aluminum for the FMF

[zenith kestrel]

Love when i want to start a new game because i love the begginning but hate the slog

[frail sleet]

you found the alumina solution?

[fathom shuttle]

There is a weird flickering issue with nuclear reactors’s steam

Ok so I paused it, the steam animation is still playing

So I guess it’s overlaying 2 steam animations over each other which results in this

[fathom shuttle]

Lmao I just understood this

[frail sleet]

Yeah i actually came to realise that i hate phase 1 when compared to the rest of the game. I mean, it's simple enough.. but the lack of jetpack/hoverpack, not having foundations for a while (and then not being able to build many due to rate limits), + no dimensional depot and constantly running back and forth because your rods or plates or wires or cables or concrete or RIPs ran out just kinda drives me up the wall. The MUCH SMALLER BAG SPACE. Ow.

It's also worse because i've played P1 with people who quit like 6 times, and i've only gone P3+ on one save (and my AGS world). It started to get to the point of burnout with all of the annoyances there.

[zenith kestrel]

I feel that, i just wish i had an easier time over all because its all spaghetti for me, Autism sucks when youre brain is all like ooo shiny but like disorganized

[white dawn]

Every single time I'm surprised when I can't jump on top of a pipe that's right at foundation level. :D

(I realize blade runners aren't too problematic to unlock, of course)

[fathom shuttle]

228 nukes

Might recreate that video of the swamp getting nuked lol

I’m so proud of the nuclear power plant it’s just too clean man (as long as you ignore the fuel production area)

[frail sleet]

play some super relaxing music as you do a brief tour, then swap onto 1812 overture or something 😄

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbxgYlcNxE8

[versed vault]

If I have a refinery produce water I have to package and sink it if I don't have a use for it right?

[frail sleet]

yes but generally it's best to make a use for it

[daring stag]

I think I discovered that even if in theory you have 4 machines outputting enough items, too many splitters/mergers will slow down the flow. I mean splitters and mergers have some hidden cost that I didn't know of

[versed vault]

I'm just getting into aluminium

[daring stag]

at very high throughput

[frail sleet]

I think everything that produces water also uses (more) water, so you can recycle it into the same product with a bit of clocking work or a packager/prio/unpackager system.

[fathom shuttle]

The uranium is fully balanced now, as all things should be

[frail sleet]

This has been mentioned before but i haven't seen it, i believe that the internal machine buffers can more than handle it. Can you post a save file example of it happening to the point where a machine stalls?

[white dawn]

I recommend sending the "recycled" water over to a separate set of machines making Alumina Solution; underclock as appropriate. A few days ago I posted some pics and more clarification to a #1038092680493801533 thread here: #1397699649493536859 message

[daring stag]

yea I can give you my save, my setup should provide enough quicksilvers but some manufacturer doesn't receive them fast enough

though I fixed the issue by adding more than required quicksilver

[frail sleet]

quicksilver? 😄

[daring stag]

quickwire lol

[frail sleet]

ah

[signal sleet]

Starting to lose my interest for the game now that im building a smart plate chain, it takes SO much space it's driving me insane 😭 And this is just the early game, do things get more efficient down the line?

[frail sleet]

yeah, do send

[frail sleet]

Things get progressively bigger and more complex

but you get used to it

[white dawn]

Your factories are as efficient as you make them. But yes, your factories will only get bigger and bigger

[fathom shuttle]

The early game items aren’t very fun to automate but it gets better later on

[zenith kestrel]

Is biocoal good?

[cedar portal]

Factories for later stages get big, luckily the map is huge

[white dawn]

It's a huge map, you won't run out of space or resources, if that's what you mean (so long as you're willing to expand outwards, anyway)

[frail sleet]

How many smart plates are you trying to make? It might just be way too many.

[fathom shuttle]

No

[zenith kestrel]

Roger

[white dawn]

It's got some niche uses, but the overall consensus is quite negative. For most folks it's tough to justify a resource with an input that's not automatable

[zenith kestrel]

Fused quickwire?

[fathom shuttle]

Very good for electronics

[signal sleet]

Thanks guys. I liked making nice looking factories, but the forest map makes things hard to align lol.

[versed vault]

thanks

[frail sleet]

I would rate, usually:
caterium wire
fused wire
copper wire

Fused wire can produce a lot with a bit of caterium and copper, but on the map scale copper is more demanded than caterium (and caterium makes more with fewer machines and logistics, if it's there)

[white dawn]

It's just one map with different starting locations, btw. If it's your first playthrough, you might want to head west into Rocky Desert, or southwest into Grass Fields instead of Northern Forest. You're right that the forest is tough to build in; it's more intended for folks who are more familiar with the game (or for later-game factories when you have more building options)

[signal sleet]

Ohhhh had no clue, thank you

[reef basin]

yes

[daring stag]

biocoal is op

[zenith kestrel]

Hmmm

[fathom shuttle]

It’s the best fuel source in the game

[hard ivy]

just mine coal?

[fathom shuttle]

I’m making 5TW with it

[wise junco]

everything in the game is good

[abstract forge]

im trying to play differently on this playthrough and thinking of making a vertical railway (2 rails, one above the other rather than next to) this time around
on one hand it should, theoretically, be better for crossroads (since im planning to go heavy on trains), but on the other crossroads/t junctions are probably gonna be pain to build... and i dont think ive ever seen anyone actually build rails like that, so im probably missing something
any opinions on this?

[daring stag]

that's a lot of bio stuff getting coaled

[reef basin]

basically - all recipes are good for something. Whether or not you like what that recipe gives you is up to you, and the more people you ask, the more different opinions you'll get 😉

[zenith kestrel]

Aye

I mean ill unlock them all at some point right LOL

[white dawn]

To be clear: someone saying biocoal is OP is probably just joking around. I think even folks who like biocoal and use it occasionally would probably admit it's a very niche recipe. :)

[zenith kestrel]

oh

:\

I didnt see that as a joke so fair enough

[white dawn]

Biocoal and Charcoal are the two recipes which probably have the "worst" general reputation among the community, just because they require manual collection to feed; they can't be a part of any fully-automated chain. Though they've still got their niche uses, and some folks do use 'em occasionally

[reef basin]

I mean depending on how you look at it 🙂 it's kinda "OP" by the fact that it unlocks a process that wasn't possible before 😉 (though I'd definitely agree its usefulness isn't that much)

[zenith kestrel]

Is there a way to make biofuel without manual collection?

[reef basin]

no, not really

[zenith kestrel]

Speaking of charcoal i just got molded steel pipe and char coal recipe

[fathom shuttle]

The easiest way is to turn animal remains into biofuel

Slooping the process will yield 4x

[atomic siren]

is it worth getting nuclear? on phase 3 rn and I was just wondering if its going to take like 500 hours to make

[reef basin]

base nuclear is super simple

[zenith kestrel]

Then what would be the best fuel for explorer?

[lethal ocean]

Just finished a factory that makes 100 computers/min-

[fathom shuttle]

Yea it’s pretty good
My 375GW set up took 15-20 hours in total
1/3 of that time is me just milling around doing nothing tbh

[cedar portal]

Plutonium 😄

[zenith kestrel]

Lol, i have a ways to go

[white dawn]

"Best" is, as always, a very personal choice. Personally I just use whatever the most "advanced" fuel that I can make at the time. The wiki's got the exact values for how long various fuels last

[atomic siren]

do you need any alt recipes really? I want maybe like 100 GW at least

[white dawn]

Keep in mind that for vehicles, the only difference in fuels is how long an individual unit of fuel lasts; the fuels don't confer any driving/speed advantages, etc

[cedar portal]

A single plutonium rod will run a vehicle a LONG time and doesn't even have any radiation. Kinda fun

[hard ivy]

I'd rather not play than play without alts. But no, you don't need a single one

[fathom shuttle]

“Freighter records indicate this comes from the past, which is normal”

[reef basin]

for higher amounts of power I'd recommend some alts, but for first nuclear you can easily go altless

[lethal ocean]

Oh. I crashed. Thats strange

Aaand my last autosave was from a while ago... Break time lol

[daring stag]

best fuel for explorer or for exploring

[dreamy scroll]

Plutonium rod explorer

[burnt ferry]

the upper exit of a large storage container has a higher priority, hasnt it? never noticed that

[half scaffold]

I build a processing facility that sloops both the hash and solid biofuel steps. I have an industrial container that I dumped a ton of leaves and wood into with smart splitters feeding them into their respective constructor. I haven't filled the container in a long time, and everything is packed. I do NOT sink the extra biofuel though, I let it back up.

[frail sleet]

It's not a consistent/reliable behavior

[atomic siren]

what research should I get before making a basic nuclear setup anyways

[reef basin]

there's a semi-random priority based on build order and belt mk, but the priority can randomly change (especially during lags and such), so it's not very much recommended to rely on it (not to mention we have priority splitters anyway)

[zenith kestrel]

I defs dont mind having to go out and get biomass or alien guts, its part of the loops i like and biofuel is a fun thing for me to make because well its exactly that it cant be fully automated

[burnt ferry]

ye what i wanted to do actually involved neither of them outputs be prioritized and i was surprised that it is

[spiral summit]

why wont this STUPID truck UNLOAD god dammit

[reef basin]

tbh when you're using both outputs in a way that it matters where the priority is, it's usually a sign that you're doing something weird 😄

[daring stag]

damn this supercomputer factory was a B

[spiral summit]

why does this game even still have this stupid ass bug

[burnt ferry]

i guess whatever outputs first gets the priority and the first one will be random, hence lags make it change

[bold vessel]

Does anyone have a playthrough the reccomended watching to get some insight on the game?

[peak wasp]

Remember when that dev said the game has no bugs? That triggered me.

[burnt ferry]

ye i always found load balancing to be super weird as well

[white dawn]

Are you trying to do it manually while recording a route? If so, don't worry about it -- it's weird. Once the truck is running its automated route, the station's config will kick in whenever a vehicle stops at it

The route-recording completely ignores your manual load/unload actions

[reef basin]

my recommendation is to not watch letsplays and tutorials before your first playthrough

[willow dawn]

I disagree very strongly with this haha

[burnt ferry]

the idea was input two belts with <max capacity but different throughputs and then output two equally saturated belts from the two outputs.. @reef basin ... but isnt possible

[willow dawn]

Lets plays en tutorials have helped me a lot

[burnt ferry]

then recommend one.. so far neither people who think youtube vids are useful nor those who think theyre not helped the person asking the original question

[reef basin]

the point of that is that the game is heavily focused on exploring the game on your own and learning your own strategies. There's not a single way to play and copy-pasting a build of some youtuber usually leads to players not knowing how it works and how do the game mechanics work. And this happens here very often

[white dawn]

Make Your Own Mistakes, Not Someone Else's Mistakes™ 🌈 ⭐

[daring stag]

some tutorial that show you basic patterns can be good but "let's play", that would last dozens of hours

[willow dawn]

You are right, I wasn't really following the chat and caught his statement out the corner of my eye. I like the ones from TotalXclipse

[wise junco]

THIS

[burnt ferry]

instead a large discussion broke off where other people will randomly chime in, completely hiding the question in the first place... as you can observe

[reef basin]

not to mention that there's tons of tutorials/videos that straight up show wrong information on weird ways to do something

[bold vessel]

Thank you for everyone's input, imma just wait and keep playing until i get lost and then will look into watching stuff about the game

[willow dawn]

Starting out the game can get pretty overwelming and seeing somebody else tackle the issues really helped me not get stuck or burn out

[reef basin]

yeah, my recommendation would be "play the game on your own and ask here if you get trully stuck"

(though you're obv free to do whatever you want)

pretty much the only tip I'd give is "listen to ADA"

[daring stag]

I remember when I mimicked this guy's manifold with different elevations and stuff. took me one hour to setup anything, now I know I prefer to just clip everything in total chaos

[hexed phoenix]

Everyone knows you should evenly split all your inputs correctly using insanly many splitters and mergers to archive a perfect split..

Manifolds is not something you should do..

Said some youtuber once

[burnt ferry]

all videos are equally good/bad.. certain youtubers are better at certain things.... just watch a few yourself and you will see.... watching videos or not is a polarizing topic and unfortunately people will waste both your and their time telling you why you should or should not watch the video but nobody telling you which one they deem good 😂

[fathom shuttle]

Apparently nukes cannot break the tough rocks from the first

[burnt ferry]

i like kibitz

[fathom shuttle]

I’m 3 deep on this one rock

[reef basin]

I haven't yet seen a "good" youtuber

[willow dawn]

What do you feel is wrong with TotalXclipse? I am curious to hear your opinion

[burnt ferry]

and who is the judge about that? you? what reasons do i have (as a noob) trusting yo more than any youtuber

also with a sandbox game , 'good' and 'bad' is highly subjective

[daring stag]

for stuff like trains I really recommend watching a video.. personally I hate that format of learning I prefer reading

[wise junco]

"Several people are typing"

[burnt ferry]

i wanna see if your facilities look better than those of totalxclipse..

no matter how 'good' he plays the game efficience wise or so

[peak wasp]

You can spend hours making blueprints to split input into extremely precise and odd outputs. It's a lot of work, though.

[reef basin]

I didn't watch all of his videos, but he regularly calls things wrong names and some of his statements from the videos I've seen were wrong or questionable

[willow dawn]

Even that is subjective but I do like the attention to detail even if I don't always like what he makes

[burnt ferry]

other than you who never said something wrong in chat?

im off for diner

[reef basin]

I am the judge of what I see as good or bad, obviously. you asked subjective question, I answered with subjective answer

[burnt ferry]

of course looks are highly subjective.. thats why i brought it up.. he cant argue that

[burnt ferry]

and if he does, hes ignorant.. 🤷‍♀️

[willow dawn]

You seem to be a bit a purist in that sense, I can forgive a wrong name here and there if the general premise is correct and his new series for starters is very good IMO

It really helped me get back into the game even if at some point I drifted away from his step by step

[daring stag]

I need to relax a bit in the swamp after this insane factory

[reef basin]

well the problem is that when you're "famous" person and many people watch your videos, the mistakes spread. And people then come here and talk about things they heard in a video, not knowing the video misinformed them

[daring stag]

killing stingers and looting slugs is the real relaxing phase of the game loop

[reef basin]

I never claimed that I'm always right tho?

[wise junco]

I mostly prefer to mess things up on my own. I've made so many mistakes but I've learned from every one

[willow dawn]

That seems more of a people believe everything they hear problem than something with any youtuber. We are all just human

[reef basin]

also, after seeing so many people confused by stuff like that, yeah I'm a bit annoyed by that, I'm not arguing against that 🤷

[dreamy scroll]

No misinformation in here

[reef basin]

well if it would be my job, I'd very much focus on having my videos provide correct info, by doing research

I can't even count how many times I've seen/heard a youtuber speak about "mk2 pipe bug" or something like that

[reef wasp]

That's a really nice Quafe shirt you have there.

[peak wasp]

Didn't they manage to get rid of that a few updates back?

[reef basin]

there never was a mk2 pipe bug in the first place

(well there was a "pipe bug" for a week or so around 1.0 release, but that's not what I'm talking about)

[rain bramble]

ngl, I have no idea wtf I'm doing and I'm at the end of phase 2 lol

[reef wasp]

We were all there once upon a time.

[peak wasp]

I could have sworn there was a backwash problem with pipes for 0.8.

[fathom shuttle]

It seems like I unlocked all alts now
Probably some left in the MAM but I only have some misc stuff and the rebar ammo in there left

[rain bramble]

I look at my things, and I see spaghetti of varying quality lol

[peak wasp]

Spaghetti is efficient.

[wise junco]

spaghetti in all forms is beautiful

[rain bramble]

the spaghetti tastes good, but looks like a pile of socks on a chair

[fathom shuttle]

Does spatial energy regulation unlock any alts?

[reef basin]

no, pipes always worked the way they were supposed to

it was always user issue

[fathom shuttle]

According to steam I’ve collected 88 drives so far that’s weird

[mortal ginkgo]

its either a good looking sphaget, underground sphaget, or whocaressphaget

in the end, sphaget is always there

[reef basin]

"backflow" or "slosh" is a feature in pipes and people called it a bug when it didn't do what they wanted

[peak wasp]

So there is a backwash problem, it's just not a bug.

[wise junco]

it's true fluid dynamics

[reef basin]

well, it's not a "problem" either

(similar to how people thought there's "valve bug", "mk5 belt bug", etc.)

[hard ivy]

pretty sure there was a mk5 belt bug

[reef basin]

no, there was "belt to belt connection bug"

[hard ivy]

my 780/min plate factory in U6Ex didn't produced 780/min

[mortal ginkgo]

people wouldn't think it is a bug if devs explained at least a tiny bit of whats going on or if there was a way to debug what the fluids are doing.

you can see if there is something wrong with belt visually, but you dont know whats wrong in a pipe most of the time

this cant be put on player's end when say, a 1200/min mk6 belt system is fine but a mk2 pipe is not working properly and it needs "extra stuff to work"

[dreamy scroll]

Sometimes I wonder if people say things just to set him off

[reef basin]

which affected all belts, not just mk5s

[hard ivy]

and after some update, it did

never had issues getting the max through any other belt

[reef basin]

it was relative to belt speed

but we had big threads here testing all of it

it's just that it affected mk5 belt the most

but the problem wasn't the belt, but belt to belt connections

[tall plover]

quick question, can you mirror Blueprints?

[reef basin]

hence why we did belt welding and such

[mortal ginkgo]

nop

[wise junco]

tbf, I've never had a true issue with mk2 pipes. I'm not sure what all the hubbub has ever been about

[bright helm]

Guys what can I do with my time? Bc I have to wait a lot for tier 2 space elevator materials to produce.

[wise junco]

make more factories

[tall plover]

build more so you have to wait less

[mortal ginkgo]

make them a bigger setup so you dont need to wait

[rain bramble]

do like me, cook more spaghetti

[bright helm]

Ok I will try to find more coal bc I think I used every coal node in area with weaker enemies

[fathom shuttle]

How many ISC can I fit in a mk3 bp designer

[bright helm]

I start to enter the jungle

[sage crypt]

you can make nuclear rods out of copper btw

[dreamy scroll]

Ah that's where I was going wrong

Better take that limestone out of the smelters

[tall plover]

any way to mirror bp with mods?

[sage crypt]

btw i did all the space elevator phases by hand crafting it was so easy

[dreamy scroll]

My other favourite, "you thought making that was hard? Easy to be honest"

[rain bramble]

I'm ready to get bitch slapped by phase 3 honestly

[valid sonnet]

you can do that?

[sage crypt]

yes

[valid sonnet]

dang

[shrewd kiln]

to rotate a building, do i need to dismantle, then rebuild it ?

[hard ivy]

kinda. parts have to be made in a machine, but you can handfeed it

[sage crypt]

(trust me Fr it works ❤️‍🩹)

[stray loom]

In a sense yes. You just put down a machine and hand feed it the bits

[valid sonnet]

oh

so what you do with the power slugs to duplicate them wit the sloops

might use that on my next few playthrues after im done with this one

[sage crypt]

you can turn slugs into protein

[stray loom]

Feed them through a constructor with a sloop to duplicate the shards you get

[rain bramble]

uh, what does it mean when my machine makes a blue light instead of green/yellow/red?

[valid sonnet]

because it has power shards (overclocked)

[rain bramble]

oooooh right I forgot I used those

[stray loom]

I'd recommend setting up a constructor, assembler, and manufacturer with full sloops. Hook up a container to each input and output and you can use that for small production runs of something you need but haven't automated

[sage crypt]

tbh everyone should put power slugs in the sink fr

I don't really the use for them fr

[stray loom]

Nah. Sink your coupons

[sage crypt]

frr

[last tartan]

satisfactory grind begins today 😷

[sage crypt]

i love the everything app

[hard ivy]

what's even better, I'm pretty sure you actually can

[valid sonnet]

you can

[sage crypt]

try it trust me it's worth it

[valid sonnet]

thats how you get the cyberwagon

[hard ivy]

Oh, I know what happens when you sink one, but I think you can sink more

[sage crypt]

I'm actually subscribed to fixit orange for a year now, trust me it's so dope everyone should have it

[hasty stratus]

no you can only sink it once after it stops the awesome sink

[daring stag]

I think I'll have to disable the session length warning

ada gaslighting is enough

[fathom shuttle]

Uh so I can fit 218 ISC in one blueprint

[naive palm]

My "waiting" loop is usually

• tier unlocks I missed or ignored
• M.A.M unlocks
• Harddrive hunting
• Base QOL improvements
• Running tubes and rails out to new areas of the map (aka Pioneer logistics)

[zenith kestrel]

Anyone have a 1 oil extractor ratio'ed diagram for all the by products i know that its not gonna be properly ratio'ed at the end i just need like what 1 oil pump can support

[hard ivy]

no, because it depends on node purity and clock speed and recipes and ...

[bright helm]

Are any mushrooms close to me if I chose meadows as a starting location?

[zenith kestrel]

Alright then.

[hard ivy]

you can use https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production to make a plan for your specific case

[frail sleet]

Yes, there are some caves and stuff

[bright helm]

And is it true you can cut those big trees in blue crater?

I heard it somewhere

[vestal mica]

did a fluffy tailed hog whisper it in your ear?

[fathom shuttle]

I think someone said that storage is “hard” or something? Who was it #screenshots message

It’s 180 ISC

8640 stacks in one click

Enough to last my nuclear storage needs for 800 hours

[last tartan]

#screenshots message do you guys have any suggestions to this

[trim vine]

yes

[last tartan]

throw em at me

[trim vine]

Reverse the constructors if you can, and then put mergers on top of the splitters (raised up of course), and both the inputs and outputs go along the center track

[dense turtle]

can i somehow make it that when my storage container gets full it sends overflow to sink?

[trim vine]

offset the constructors enough to ensure you can get a lift going on theoutsputs to then feed back into the mergers

[trim vine]

Yes, do you have Caterium researched at all?

[fathom shuttle]

Pretty easy
Put a smart splitter before the storage container, set the belt that feed the storage to any, and the one connected to the sink to overflow

You can make item sorters this way as well

[last tartan]

ohhhh i see what you mean. so i raise the constructors enough to get a conveyor underneath them to feed back to middle belt

[trim vine]

no

[last tartan]

im gonna try something

[trim vine]

Put conveyor lifts going up and OVER the constructors, feeding back to the raised mergers above the constructors

[fathom shuttle]

Mk1 blueprint designer isn’t big enough tho

[last tartan]

oh OVER

why over em?

[trim vine]

You can use beams to add the look of functional support AND add wall power outlets to it

[last tartan]

hmmm

[trim vine]

its more compact, and I have a preference to build compactly

[tall plover]

holy shit, i just got the choice between automated miner and automated speed wiring, both are 100% useless

[fathom shuttle]

Def get automated miner and automate them

[daring stag]

at least you have biocoal

[trim vine]

I do the same thing with Assemblers too, double splitter down the middle, with a merger up top

[last tartan]

i still dont have beams lol

[fathom shuttle]

It’s one less thing you need to go back to hand craft

[trim vine]

dude, automated miners are the best

[trim vine]

Imagine never having to craft an automated miner again, and with MK2/3 Miners requiring 2-3 miners a piece, its amazing

[naive palm]

.

input -> smart splitter -> overflow/sink
               v
            storage

[tall plover]

i just started crafting em with a full inventory of materials and went to eat

[trim vine]

spend some of them coupons

[tall plover]

came back with like 3000 of them

[last tartan]

i uhh... would but.. i bought a cyberwagon..

[main topaz]

Automate miners are great now that we have dimensional storage. I don't have to think about them anymore.

[prisma yoke]

dude WHAT?? hatchers dont attack when you're crouching??? how long has it been like this???? oh my g⁠od

[trim vine]

It is my goal to never have to handcraft shit. Ever.

So automating them with a single assembler for almost no resources is amazing

[thick mica]

is there an alternative recipe for stators which avoids the use of steel pipes?

[trim vine]

Welcome to Stealth

[trim vine]

no

[dreamy scroll]

Metal Gear Satisfactory

[thick mica]

ah f

[prisma yoke]

bro im bashing the shit out of it with an electric sword-club-thing how does crouching make that any sneakier 😭

[trim vine]

But just make a TON of pipes and wire, and make the stators and rotors at the same 5 to 5 rate for motors

[thick mica]

aight

[wise junco]

cuz hatchers only can hear footsteps. they are otherwise deaf

[slender quest]

You can try iron pipes. Same part, but out of lots of iron.

[fathom shuttle]

||you can turn off mob aggression||

[trim vine]

its a really cool recipe that lines up perfectly with motors, 2 assemblers making rotors and stators go to a single assembler making motors, and you can scale that up by a lot

[stray loom]

If you hunt down the iron pipe, iron wire, and steel rotor alternate recipes you can make motors entirely from iron. Just need to bring in power

[mortal ginkgo]

you can press crouch button while gliding etc and it is also considered "stealth". Kek

[wise junco]

my preferred method

[daring stag]

imagine if the game also had maintenance mechanics. like your tires need replaced, conveyor belts getting rusty

[trim vine]

BLASPHEMY! (but useful for those who dont like that aspect of the game)

[thick mica]

wait so i can get a recipe that makes steel pipes from iron or what

[mortal ginkgo]

Iron Pipe demands chungus amount of iron so beware

[trim vine]

I choose trauma by ||Green Stingers||

[slender quest]

Yes, you can.

[dreamy scroll]

You should be banned from having thoughts. In the nicest possible way.

[thick mica]

YOOOO THATS HUGE

[hard ivy]

yep. iron pipe

[fathom shuttle]

The game improved a lot when I disabled it tbh the combat isn’t good at all

[slender quest]

And then that would be done by buildings that you feed resources to.

[dense turtle]

im already using smart splitters in some places but didnt know or notice overflow option

[thick mica]

aight im gonna go hunt for some hdds

[hard ivy]

as you should

[trim vine]

You can, but I recommend the Solid Steel Ingot and Molded Steel Pipe recipe

[slender quest]

Enjoy exploration, i really like it.

[trim vine]

There is an option at the top called "Overflow"

[lean ferry]

bro..

I spent nearly 2 hours finishing my packaged rocket fuel factory

[trim vine]

put that before the ISC and just belt to a sink

[lean ferry]

just to find out I need nitric acid recipe unlocked

I have like 110 coupons do I just buy the stuff like turbo motors

[pliant hornet]

Question: Which blueprint size can I fit a T-intersection for rails inside for blueprint autoconnecting

including signals of course

and no signal errors

[trim vine]

the moment I unlocked MK3 miners, thats all I bought

[valid sonnet]

go find hardrives and youll get a few turbo motors from them

[slender quest]

Not sure, try 5x5 or 6x6.

[lean ferry]

oh yh hardrive

[pliant hornet]

i have only got the blueprint designer mk2 yet

[lean ferry]

I only have 19

[pliant hornet]

it s 5x5. But i dont see the intersection fitting yet

[trim vine]

I highly recommend a mod called "Early Blueprint Designer" by gohla, it gives you access to build the MK3 BP Designer much earlier

[slender quest]

Yeah, it's a good mod!

[lean ferry]

I cant even buy bloody turbo motors

[silk rose]

why that ender chest things encased beams are stacked by 50

[hard ivy]

it can definitely fit in a mk3, but it might fit in a mk2 without signals

[slender quest]

But it will flag your save as modded, so you can try to:
save
install the mod
do the blueprints
delete the mod
load

This way your save will not be flagged as modded.

[last tartan]

@trim vine structural beams correct?

[lean ferry]

oh nevermind they are quite cheap

5 coupons f or like 50 fused ill take that

[wise junco]

coupon

[trim vine]

I'm not in game, so I am not sure, but I believe so

[last tartan]

coupon

[last tartan]

it has the shiny metal beams n stuff

[lean ferry]

idk bro it feels weird buying myself through tiers

[distant pulsar]

coupon

[zenith kestrel]

Since when the heck is there RADIOACTIVE PIGS

[mortal ginkgo]

I think they were always there

[slender quest]

Update 6 or 7.

[trim vine]

Buy it!

Buy all the logistical/building things when you get the time, they are all very helpful

[zenith kestrel]

Damn

[last tartan]

i love visually appealing objects

[zenith kestrel]

Im gonna need more ammo

[pliant hornet]

i dont see a t-intersection blueprint fitting into the 5x5.

So You can only auto connect intesection for trains at the very end of the game

[trim vine]

all the cosmetic building stuff can be helpful when building BPs

[last tartan]

i never pay too much attention to them lol, i should

[fathom shuttle]

Does a modded save not get any achievements?

[pliant hornet]

Building a t-intersection takes me quite a bit of time for a train station, i.e. building a train station for 4 cargo wagons, with 2 t intersections branching off from the main road, probably takes what... 15 minutes?

[slender quest]

Honestly I'm not sure, better check somewhere.

[trim vine]

You do, depending on the mod

[trim vine]

"vanilla friendly" and most basic QOL mods do not impact achievements

I used ~6 or so mods, all QOL aside from refined power, and I got all my achievements

[lean ferry]

ah yes just bought myself miner mk3 and particle accelerator

[trim vine]

And for refined power, I just like the modular power setup for coal/fuel

[lean ferry]

and 100 coupons to spare

[vestal mica]

i don't think any mods disable achievements unless the mod itself intentionally does it

if that's even possible for a mod to do

[trim vine]

some mods can impact achievements, most dont though

[hard ivy]

I'm sure you could remove a milestone with a mod and then the achievement for getting all milestones wouldn't work

[fathom shuttle]

The easiest way to make motors is rigor motors imo

Way less machines $ iron for some quartz

[trim vine]

I literally didnt build a crystal oscillator until phase 5 xD

[vestal mica]

impact maybe in the sense that they may prevent you from being able to do something that triggers an achievement, but they don't directly disable any achievements. if the game thinks you did a thing, you'll get credit no matter how many mods you had helping you do it

[trim vine]

it IS the best yield though

[naive palm]

Sophisticated multi-input logistical masterpiece
<
pipes and wires all the way down

[stray loom]

I could never. I love using billboards way too much 😄

[fathom shuttle]

It’s very resource and space efficient
1:6 crystal oscillators and 1:2 for rotors and stators

[trim vine]

coupons for like 2-3 stacks, and it lasts forever

[trim vine]

cause I NEEDED signs to remember what belts were doing xD

[hard ivy]

Electric motor all the way

[fathom shuttle]

The only thing you’ll need to bring in for the oscillators is the quartz, the rest can be made from the iron you already have

[fathom shuttle]

It’s a lot of AI limiters if you’re doing large scale projects

[prisma yoke]

whats the easiest way to get rid of heavy oil residue if i dont want it. im making a temporary setup so it doesnt need to be super fancy

[fathom shuttle]

Petro coke

[hard ivy]

resudual fuel or coke

[fathom shuttle]

And sink it ( you can also burn it but that’s kinda dum)

[keen hawk]

Got 25 gens running from a normal oil node, good stuff accomplished today

No nitrogen access yet, so turbofuel is the best i can do for now

[stray loom]

Sure they aren't expensive but a stack only gets you 20 large billboards and that is like 1 building worth

[hard ivy]

... you could get 40 with just oil and water

[trim vine]

oooooo, do you the glowy buildings?

[keen hawk]

I didnt overclock it, and i have about 25% of the diluted fuel going towards making recycled plastic

Dont have hor alt or blenders yet, but it is what it is

[fathom shuttle]

Rigor motors are more AI limiter efficient if you use insulated cry oscillators recipe
Interesting

[keen hawk]

I know the output can be doubled, simply havent found its alt yet

[viscid widget]

chat

im plazing 1.1 for the first time rn

why did they remove teleporting trains???

[keen hawk]

(Also i ran out of materials 3 times and had to go back to main base to pick more up, and got tired of building real quick)

[vestal mica]

the plazers didn't like them

[fathom shuttle]

Because ficsit does not waste

[viscid widget]

it was so time efficient wdym??

[trim vine]

trains never teleported......

[hard ivy]

prolly because it was a bug

[viscid widget]

yeah they did

[trim vine]

pics or videos please

[viscid widget]

you could connect rails to blueprint rails

[hard ivy]

yeah, it was a bug with blueprinting rails or something

there's a tutorial on youtube I remember watching

[viscid widget]

it was the best """feature""" ever tbh

[willow glen]

i dont think i can link other's reddit posts here but if you just look up "train teleportation satisfactory", it was real.
and not something i ever would have used because it looks very unstable (specifically while loading game)

[trim vine]

Gotcha, so it was a bug, and not actually meant to ever be in the game

[viscid widget]

yeah all my trains on my 1.0 release crashed the second i loaded the world

like 10 of em

[willow glen]

ive had another game cut my trains in half by teleporting them, satisfactory was definitely not built with that in mind lmao

[mortal ginkgo]

Train Teleport Entrance/Exit building would be cool ngl.

[trim vine]

Mag rails would be cool too

[vestal mica]

you build a wall and then paint a cave on it, coyote style

[willow glen]

i just want a better train gate, the one they gave us in game includes too much wall

[fathom shuttle]

Each motor costs 3.75 quartz with the default oscillator
I’ve come to conclude that rigor motors is the superior recipe.

[white dawn]

Train Teleport == clip into side of hill, emerge from other side

(I actually do kind of want to make some "tunnels" now; could recess them a ways so the black signs aren't so obvious. :D)

[mortal ginkgo]

Teleportation meant to be instant. Thats what.. teleporting is. Kek.

[viscid widget]

i cant attach pics in here but gonna build the train under the sea now

[white dawn]

We don't know where the train goes when it's inside the hill! Could be anywhere! :D

[trim vine]

#screenshots #design-and-architecture

[willow glen]

my train tracks that go over the swamp waterfall take a nice dip since i had some extra height to play with

cool down them train brakes

(do not try that in real life, you'd probably damage them)

[eager aspen]

Hi. I saw in steamdb that there's a depot for a native linux build, but I'm pretty sure it's currently inaccessible. Is there anything I might be missing? Currently, it seems to use the windows version under proton.

specifically https://steamdb.info/depot/526872/

[white dawn]

(If y'all will excuse some further banging-on about inconsequential things: And actually I don't entirely agree that teleportation needs to be instant! Star Trek transporters aren't instant, for instance...)

[fathom shuttle]

They are from the one being teleported POV

[warped cypress]

how do you get or make empty fuel tanks?

[hard ivy]

check your milestones

[main topaz]

The game seems to work just fine when using Proton. I don't think there is a true native build of the game

[warped cypress]

ok

[willow glen]

I don't think you're missing anything; there isnt two linux versions as far as I'm aware. If you're having performance issues i doubt its proton to blame, the game uses UE5 and is very graphics intensive.

[eager aspen]

Yeah I have no problems with the performance right now, was just wondering since the game has an encrypted depot tagged for Linux as a platform

I assume it's used internally though, they did mention they may look into Mac/Linux after 1.0 release in a stream in like 2022? I think

[last tartan]

#screenshots message I experiment a little and came up with this

[willow glen]

i know they're working on console versions but idk why that code would be on steam, so i'm pretty clueless there. interesting find tho.

[last tartan]

it looks ideal and i like it

[willow glen]

i used this so often when i made "black box" designs.
(fully boxed up designs that just have exposed inputs and outputs, for example Iron Ore -> RIP)

[last tartan]

of course, the one game ive wanted to play FOREVER begins production for console editions a month after i buy the game 😭

[willow glen]

trust me, PC is the better experience, but i'm glad those who prefer console can still play it (in the future)

[last tartan]

i like it because it looks relatively nice and functions

[lean ferry]

FINNALY

AFTER SO LONG I MADE 480 ROCKET FUEL

how much do I package and how much do I fuel gen guys

[cerulean yacht]

i personally do one fuel gen worth of packaging

[lean ferry]

i was planning to package all to run like 80 drones

cuz im only using 120 oil rn

[willow glen]

if you're only packaging for jetpack, i'd just let it starve the fuel gens temporarily any time you pull some out of depot.
if it's for drone fuel, uhh, not sure, probably 100/min extra for them will last a while

[lean ferry]

i might..

what im going to do

im gonna package 180/m

im not gonna make 80 drones now, so I can just pull out packaged rocket fuel from the storage

the rest ill use for fuel gen (btw do I valve? or let the pipes do their thing

[cerulean yacht]

i personally do vibe based piping

[willow glen]

let the pipes do their thing, ive never had valves change a pipe's behavior tbh

[lean ferry]

but tbf

I do need ALOT of power

[trim vine]

How much is a lot?

[cerulean yacht]

i always did a full pipe and let the gens back fill on standby, then just turn them on one by one
i did like 150+ gens that way and never have stuttering

[lean ferry]

particle accelerators and stuff

[trim vine]

no no, a target number, how much is a lot for you

[silk rose]

blueprint problems in multiplayer?

[trim vine]

you gonna need to type more than that

[silk rose]

friend doesnt see any of them

[trim vine]

Who is the host?

[silk rose]

me

[trim vine]

and you made them, or they made them

[silk rose]

he made them

[trim vine]

there you go, I dont know for certain, but as the host, you should make or save them

[willow glen]

they're saved locally. you'll have to send them manually.

[trim vine]

its what worked for me, maybe someone else knows something

[spice patio]

Then as expected.
Only hosts BPs are used, and any BPs made during the session are saved on hosts computer.

[silk rose]

lmao whats wrong with game

[trim vine]

The game working as intended, whats wrong with the game -shrug-

[lean ferry]

alot for me is 20k

[spice patio]

BPs are per world/session.

[trim vine]

ok, starting think in 6 digits

[willow glen]

or... re-folder them mnaually? not entirely sure actually. i gave up on trying to share blueprints. all i ever saw was the first blueprint my friend made, all our subsequent ones werent seen by the other

[trim vine]

I was producing ~600 GW

Using about 300 GW

[willow glen]

we both assumed we were the only one using blueprints for like 20+ hours it was wild.

[lean ferry]

bro just tell me

480 rocket fuel/m how much do I package and generator

[trim vine]

Well, you need the bare minimum getting packaged, since it will go into a dimensional depot

maybe %25 underclocked on a single packager

[lean ferry]

no thats the problem

I need drones for stuff like fused frames, and stuff to ship in aluminium casing

so I do need quite a considerate amount

[trim vine]

oh, you want to use fuel for drones....

[lean ferry]

should I do 160 packaged rest in fuel gen?

160*2 is 320, so I have 160 rocket fuel/m for g ens

[trim vine]

Look, ima be honest with you, with critical systems that move logistics, you want overkill

[ornate wigeon]

I got satisfactory to run on my phone finally, it does have some minor graphical glitches and my phone gets really hot after like 30 minutes. But it's pretty awesome to be able to play a game like this on Android.

[lean ferry]

ok this is what im gonna do

[trim vine]

if you got 480 rocket fuel, I'd have all that going into packagers to make sure you never run out, since I presume you will be doing a central depot for fuel for remote airports to come to for refuelling at a single port

[vast salmon]

Wait you can do that?

[lean ferry]

my power isnt good tho

im using like 9k and im making 9.25k

heck i havent even tried if the rocket fuel factory even turns on

[willow glen]

thats... actually quite impressive, is this the x86 android, or are you actually running it on ARM using an emulator?
but also like... wow thats gonna really crush your battery life lol

[trim vine]

You should make a seperate factory for power

Either producing more rocket fuel or going crazy on diluted fuel

[lean ferry]

im gonna do 160 packaged and do rest fuel gen FOR NOW

cuz i really have terrible power right now

[ornate wigeon]

@vast salmon ya I'm using an emulator because my phone is running on arm64

[lean ferry]

once I can get a proper powerplant ill make everything set to packaged

[vast salmon]

ah

nice

[willow glen]

curious, what phone? i assume its a really beefy one

[trim vine]

How much oil do you have available to you on the map?

[trim vine]

and do you plan on ever doing nuclear

[lean ferry]

im right next to the bottom right swampy whatever wahtever theres like 6/7 nodes, yes I do plan on doing nuclear and im planning to get 25gw from it

[pliant hornet]

Is somebody good at figuring out signaling and could take a look at it with me?

In principle I know how it works and built dozens of intersections and just want to do a few simple Ts

[lean ferry]

except I cant do anything if my power is on lifeline

[trim vine]

Trains?

[pliant hornet]

yes

[trim vine]

shoot me a DM mate

[willow glen]

easiest way is to make a #1038092680493801533 thread with some screenshots of what you're trying to do/signal.

[trim vine]

assuming you are free for a call, I can help

[ornate wigeon]

@willow glen ya it is it's a redmagic 10 pro the version I own is 16gb ram and 500gb storage it has a built in fan that helps with cooling and I think the battery has a 7000mah capacity

[vast salmon]

how much does an emulator cost?

[cerulean gorge]

hi

[vast salmon]

hello

[cerulean gorge]

an emulator? for old games?

[ornate wigeon]

I've never came across an emulator that you have to pay for, the one I'm using is called gamehub. I've tried winlator but couldn't get steam to run on it.

[vast salmon]

ah

ill take a look

[willow glen]

the context was above, about playing Satisfactory on Android (on ARM using an emulator)

[cerulean gorge]

that sounds interesting

[ornate wigeon]

And satisfactory was really slow with winlator too and I couldn't play online without steam

[vast salmon]

i wanna try it on my s25 tbh

[cerulean gorge]

trying satisfactory on my steam deck reminds me how unoptimized my factory is xd

[naive palm]

This is probably the project to look into if you're trying to get satisfactory to run on a custom ARM build:
https://github.com/AndreRH/hangover

If you're just trying to get it running on an ARM PC (such as a Mac laptop or desktop), there are Mac specific tools you can look to.

[ornate wigeon]

@vast salmon ya I think it has the same chipset too however it took me a bit to find the right settings to make it work all I have left todo is optimize it so it runs smoothly and less strain on the CPU

[vast salmon]

fair, ill try it, you said you were using gamehub right?

[ornate wigeon]

Ya its called gamehub I was weary at first because some people were saying it could be Chinese spyware I haven't had a problem with that though

[vast salmon]

where do i get it?

just dm it to me

[ornate wigeon]

Ok

[ruby mountain]

how do you rename elevator stops? I cant seem to... (found it)

[lucid pagoda]

Can I not play offline? My internets gone and I was gonna satis

[fluid sapphire]

sure you can, why not

[prisma yoke]

wtf is the point of liquid biofuel

[naive palm]

green is cool

[hard ivy]

best jetpack fuel

[wicked nacelle]

best EARLY jetpack fuel

[hard ivy]

to me, it's the best

[inner echo]

And best after is very very late game....like...really late.

[hard ivy]

i don't find ionized to be better overall. it's worse for building due to it's high acceleration

it is better for exploration and combat tho

[wicked nacelle]

why would you build with a jetpack?

[inner echo]

has finally discovered the power of letting trains wait until fully unloaded.

[hard ivy]

because the hoverpack's range sux

[wicked nacelle]

you build without power?

[hard ivy]

yep. most efficient setting

[naive palm]

jetpack + bladerunners might be the most efficient way to explore the map. Throw a few bunny-hops in there and you can go long distance easy.

[inner echo]

I can't believe I never tried it before.

[wicked nacelle]

yep, and ionized fuel works great for that

[naive palm]

I just throw in liquid fuel, works alright for me. Haven't tech'd up to ionized fuel yet.

[hard ivy]

I've been playing since U2. I'm very used to building with the jetpack. I tried the hoverpack several times and it's just way less convenient to me. the range is at least 2x too small to be useful

[naive palm]

I love the jetpack for exploration, but the hoverpack is probably 2nd to none for factory building imo.

I'm not religious about it though. Anything is better than walking around your factory at normal sprint speed and/or having to put up towers every time you need a bird's eye view.

[fluid sapphire]

the range is ridiculously small. i basically spam power towers everywhere as i build, then delete them after i am done

random power towers that clip through everything is what a construction site looks like on my map 😄

[wicked nacelle]

I can easily place a large row of buildings and connect them to power without running out - then I connect them and repeat getting power from those. and then on an additional floor you just get the power from below

[hard ivy]

I tried doing that a few times, and the jetpack is just more convenient. especially with LBF, which has a very stable hover

[frail sleet]

Yeah, it's so much slower than the jetpack/bladerunners too.

[fluid sapphire]

all my factories are on their own subgrid separated by power switches and i dont turn the factory on until its ready to operate fully

[frail sleet]

Power is the last thing that i build. I've tried doing it backwards, and it was awful.

[naive palm]

Do jetpacks in this game have a hover setting??

[frail sleet]

And even when i do so, the hoverpack does not work properly

[wicked nacelle]

okay, sure. if you intentionally make it harder to build then it's harder to build

[naive palm]

if so I had no idea

[hard ivy]

spam space

[frail sleet]

no, hoverpack in P4 does but it's bad

[fluid sapphire]

its not hard to grab a connection from a power tower and place another

[white dawn]

Hoverpack's far from bad; I use it basically 100% of the time that I'm building factories

[fluid sapphire]

still, the range needs a buff

[white dawn]

Obvs some people don't like it, for various reasons, but hoverpack is A+ for its intended use

[hard ivy]

it already got a buff in 1.0. it's still too small

[white dawn]

If you think its range is too short, you just need to build more power structure around where you're building

[narrow cloak]

If I build 2 train stations that load coal into the same car will it load at the second station?

[white dawn]

I can count on one hand the number of times I've accidentally gone out of range while building on my 1.0 save. :)

[naive palm]

So, hoverpacks actually allow you to hover. It's not 100% perfect - I wish the braking force were when you stop holding down move it halts immediately - but I can't see spamming space being preferable during factory building.

[fluid sapphire]

well its just my preferred building style, i do everything first, then turn on

[white dawn]

Yeah, for me, it's too hard to aim properly while building, on a Jetpack. Definitely Skill Issue™, I know, but I personally have zero complaints about the hoverpack

I don't even find the slidiness while stopping to be a problem; once you're used to it it's quite easy to adapt to, IMO

[naive palm]

All that said I do think jetpacks should have a proper hover - especially if later game fuels burn more slowly.

[fluid sapphire]

you just have to toggle sprint off when you need more precision, its really a non issue

[white dawn]

Someone did suggest allowing the hoverpack to consume batteries as fuel, when too far away from your grid. Which sounds like an A+ idea to me

[naive palm]

yeah a quick tap in the opposite direction or sprint off helps you lock in.

[white dawn]

If someone slaps that on the Questions site (or is willing to search for an existing post) I'd upvote that for sure

(though I don't care enough to submit/look myself)

[hard ivy]

I'm sure it's on th QA site already

[wicked nacelle]

I'd love if the game would make batteries uniquely useful for something again

[white dawn]

Yeah, they're in a weird spot now, since being demoted from MFGs

[fluid sapphire]

yeah it would be the perfect pairing

[naive palm]

all of the above

• hoverpacks eat batteries
• increase hoverpack range
• jetpacks have a proper hover
  I'd vote for all of these

[fluid sapphire]

jetpack doesnt need a hover mode

[hard ivy]

i don't even know why they did that tbh

[fluid sapphire]

thats just overstepping its design territory

[white dawn]

THough I do maintain that they're still a good drone fuel; when you unlock drones your "best" fuel choices are likely to be Batteries or Rocket Fuel, and you need aluminum anyway to package the RF, so batteries aren't a bad choice if you've gotta spin up new aluminum anyway. But yeah, having a unique purpose for batteries would be groovy

[naive palm]

it would still consume fuel. jetpacks can provide a temporary hover (supporting KYO297's build style) while hoverpacks allow for indefinite hovering (supporting my build style)
everybody wins

[white dawn]

Eh, game balance. I don't mind it from a mechanical perspective; Phase 4 is awfully complex, and I don't think it's a bad idea to have simplified one of the parts even further

[white dawn]

Honestly I personally only agree with the first point. But we'll see if they ever get tweaked in general, of course. :)

[hard ivy]

unfortunately, batteries cost like 4x the bauxite of packaged RF (per MJ), and also take more effort to make

[white dawn]

Sure, but if you have to build new aluminum anyway, batteries are just like an extra step

I'd needed to build out more aluminum when I unlocked drones, and just ended up doing batteries 'cause it was more convenient at the time

[fluid sapphire]

im sure they thought about it, but it just doesnt make sense from a design angle to make them so similar

[white dawn]

Though by the end of my playthrough my drones were about 50% batteries, 50% rocket fuel. :)

Yeah, Jetpacks just aren't intended to be a "hover" type item. I'm personally 100% fine with jetpack and hoverpack occupying two very different niches

[hard ivy]

I certainly would appreciate a jetpack hover mode, but I don't think it's needed
plus it'd make the hoverpack nearly useless

[naive palm]

I think as long as the jetpack consume fuel and eventually drops you out of the sky, hoverpack has a use.

Come to think of it, from a game design perspective, it could be the same wearable. Or upgradeable like the xenozapper->xenobasher. Build the jetpack into a hoverpack.

When you're in range of power you can fly indefinitely. When you're outside of power you can keep hovering or flying for a limited time.

[white dawn]

How about this: you can tether yourself to a drone and then try to really quickly work on your factories as the drone zips overhead from point A to B?

[karmic knot]

should i scale up my reinforced plate motor and smart plating line i only make like 2 a min

i jus finished phase 1

[white dawn]

Honestly for Smart Plating, just leaving whatever you've got will be plenty

It'll take you longer to work your way through the phase than it'll take for your existing Smart Plating production to reach the next Elevator target

[karmic knot]

should i scale it up

[white dawn]

As for RIP, I'd recommend just making new RIPs whenever there's a factory which needs them, right inside the new factory

In the early game it's very tempting to sort of centralize production of things (like: "this is the factory where I make all my RIPs," and then whenever you need more RIPs make that factory bigger). But IMO, at least, it's far easier in the end to just make new RIPs right inside any new factory which needs them

[karmic knot]

whats a rip

[wicked nacelle]

anything that builds from iron/copper/coal/limestone is easy to make wherever you need it

reinforced iron plate

[lean ferry]

bro its hpapeneing again

[white dawn]

About the same amount of buildings that you have to make anyway, and then you avoid the problems with centralizing production

[lean ferry]

one of the refineries are being greedy af for packaged water

[white dawn]

Heh, yeah, Reinforced Iron Plate -> RIP. :)

[lean ferry]

like they are all buffered to 100 except for 1

[lime wadi]

I wanna upgrade my computer, what cpu/gpu should i get to run satisfactory on high with lumen on

[lean ferry]

thats just barely buffered tis been like 5 mins

[karmic knot]

ok what should i be doing then im a little lost i jus unlocked coal power and struggling to set that up and thats ab all i have to do rn

[hard ivy]

I'd say a used 3080/6800XT

[white dawn]

I recommend just focusing on one thing at a time. Right now, just focus on getting that coal power up.

[wicked nacelle]

any of the amd x3d chips are a great choice for all gaming.

[white dawn]

Then, once you're happy enough with your power:

1. Pick something you haven't yet automated
2. Automate it!
3. GOTO 1

[karmic knot]

ok will do

[lime wadi]

Bank account going to hate me

[white dawn]

Or, if you get tired of that for awhile:
4. Go exploring instead. :)

[lean ferry]

bro yeah I think my splitters are bugged

[karmic knot]

i tried going to the dune desert and got murdered in mid map

scary shits there

[last tartan]

hey folks, is there any way to make an "impure" deposit pure?

[fluid sapphire]

nop

[white dawn]

Nope, not without mods

[hard ivy]

A used 3080 costs only ~400 USD where I'm at
for the performance, that's a good price I think

[trim vine]

Go find a pure

[last tartan]

i need concrete but dont wanna convey it from 700m out 😭

[last tartan]

a used 3080 for 400 bucks is amazing price-performance

[lime wadi]

What fps are you gttting with that

[trim vine]

belt highways within biomes are your friend with BPs

[naive palm]

nothing - but you can overclock and sloop the ish out of it if you want to xD

[last tartan]

i dont know what sloop is but ima do it

is it that thing in the MAM under alien tech

[naive palm]

After I beat my current save I'm going to do a run where I automate everything off of 1 impure node of each resource.

[wicked nacelle]

hook 4 of them together 🙂

[dreamy scroll]

Comedy club in here

[last tartan]

with bps.. how so

[steady glade]

auto-connect

[trim vine]

make a BP with a 1xX, 2xX, 3xX belts, and can spam place them as needed

[lime wadi]

How would an r9 5900x do with this game

[last tartan]

my r5 5500 is holding up great so probably really good 🤡

atp go AM5 build tho

[white dawn]

Can always just use one of the online hardware-comparison sites and compare to the game's advertised min/recommended specs

[stray river]

I started building a 2250 /min turbo fuel factory, but then I saw that I could use less crude oil and coal to make a 2800 (5600 with sloops) per minute rocket fuel factory. Should I build the turbo fuel factory, or survive off of coal until I get blenders?

[lime wadi]

Sweet, i dont have too much budget room but i really want the lumen is my main thing

[hard ivy]

at absolute max settings, max lumen, no upscaling, 1440p, about 60-90 FPS

high present, medium lumen and DLSS, 90-120

[last tartan]

lumen, elaborate pls

[lime wadi]

And recommended ones?

[last tartan]

whats ur budget too

uh oh

oh nvm, thought my enter key shat itself

[lean ferry]

bro this is why i dont use diluted packaged fuel

[lime wadi]

About 1500-2k usd

[last tartan]

bro what!!! you can do so much better than a 5900x and a 3080

[lean ferry]

the refineries are bugged im making 345.6 packaged water but its not buffering

[naive palm]

oh nova is rich rich 😂

[last tartan]

im doing a 9600x and a 9060xt for 1100

[hard ivy]

skill issue

[lean ferry]

the last refinery is unbuffering itself

[lean ferry]

allow help me tho im making enough packaged water and the last refinery is unbuffering itself

[naive palm]

I get by fine on a 3060ti but I'm not going to pretend like it runs at maxfps. I leave lumen on but my frames take a hit.

[lime wadi]

Thats the max, other things i think ill need to handle, plus that amout is w?after saving a bit more

[lean ferry]

I manually buffered all, and after like 10 mins it goes down from 100 to 80 while all others are buffered

and then it keeps going till its empty and my whole line just fails

[white dawn]

I always just google "cpu comparison" or "gpu comparison" and use whatever's on top. :) Don't remember at all which ones I've actually used in the past

[stuck oak]

need an ear protector item

[last tartan]

do you already have a monitor, keyboard and mouse and other stuff or are you doing an ENTIRE setup for that price

[stuck oak]

didnt realize how loud my generator complex would be

[fathom shuttle]

5090 and 9950x3d are good

[naive palm]

My friend told me you can turn down invididual sounds in the game now, but I haven't tried it yet

[lime wadi]

Have a keyboad and mouse, but the rest is all neeeded

[fathom shuttle]

Try overclocking them

[last tartan]

get a load of this guy

[lean ferry]

ok wait i manually buffered all till 100 and see if it goes down

im not even kidding bro i buffered all manually till 100, if the last refinery still keeps going down ima be pissed off

[fluid sapphire]

effects volume

[last tartan]

alright, are you okay with 1080p gaming or do you want 1440p

[lime wadi]

Doing 1080a at the moment probably

[last tartan]

smart boy, that will be a gaming monster in 1080p

[fathom shuttle]

9060XT 16gb can easily do 1440p why go for 1080p?

[fluid sapphire]

if it keeps going down you are either not supplying enough, or you have an issue with your pipes

[lean ferry]

1. checked my pipes and all packagers are working well at clock speed

[fluid sapphire]

OR, not enough room at the output

[last tartan]

easily is a bit an overstatement- sure it can get 60 fps average but it is SO much better as a 1080p card

[fathom shuttle]

High fps with low resolution vs very good fps with 2x the resolution

[fluid sapphire]

if pipes are fine, then you have an error in your math somewhere

[lean ferry]

its ok now but no promises, if it keeps bugging im jsut gonna get diluted fuel

[fathom shuttle]

Not really a comparison when you account for upscalers

[last tartan]

ew, upscaling

[fathom shuttle]

Post a screenshot of your power graph

[lime wadi]

I can squeeze in a lot more fps for the same price, and im not too concerned with 1080p vs 1440p

[lean ferry]

bro i have packagers making 345.6 packaged water (YES i checked) and each refinery needs 345.6 (YES i checked) each packager is getting enough platsic containers and enough water

[lean ferry]

im making packaged rocket fuel im not using it for power

[wanton fox]

Guys, for the heat sink, should go with the Main recipe or the alternate recipe of Heat Exchanger?

[fathom shuttle]

It doesn’t really matter then, just leave it be and don’t think about it until you have 50 drones

[lean ferry]

k

[last tartan]

this guy knows whats up 🔥 what other peripherals are you looking for? you have a keyboard and mouse, but im not sure if you need a headset, monitor, desk, chair, or any other things youd want

[lean ferry]

btw can I have help choosing my alt recipes

[last tartan]

@lime wadi

[reef basin]

flip a coin

[lean ferry]

ykw

LETS GO GAMBLING!!! (rescan if I dont like them)

[fluid sapphire]

greeny with the usual non answer

[fathom shuttle]

Just don’t touch it until you need a specific recipe

[lean ferry]

nah nah I see how it is game

I made a full factory just to get nitro rocket fuel straight after

[lime wadi]

Ive got a desk chair keyboard mouse and headset, i can get a decent monitor from a friend i believe, 1080p

[lean ferry]

i got nothing 😦

[fathom shuttle]

If you unlock a new milestone you can rescan old ones and the old one will have the new recipes in the pool

[lean ferry]

the only good one is sloppy alumina

[frozen cloud]

F

[lean ferry]

turbo heavy fuel, turbo blend fuel, nitro rocket fuel,

[last tartan]

if you cant get your hands on that monitor, you can steal a really good 1080p monitor off of Amazon for ~100 bucks

[frozen cloud]

i like turbo blend

[lime wadi]

Probably will

[lean ferry]

guys which is more efficient nitro rocket or turbo blend and rocket

[reef basin]

wdym by "efficient"?

[last tartan]

so lets get you a pc build for 1500 as a 1080p monster

[frozen cloud]

default rocket

nitro is simpler though

[lean ferry]

saves most on resources, not power, not simple, not space idc about those

[fluid sapphire]

if you want resource efficiency, do not use nitro

[reef basin]

well then also depends which resources you value more than others

[fluid sapphire]

if you want the easiest set up, do use nitro