satisfactory

[lean ferry]

or will I be missing some

[naive palm]

there's more hdds than recipes iirc

[lean ferry]

what does iirc mean

[naive palm]

If I recall

[lean ferry]

many people say it I forgot what it means

ok thanks

[hard ivy]

if i remember/recall correctly

[naive palm]

Is it normal to feel a platonic attraction to the tractor who's been faithfully bringing steel beams from my steel factory to my main hub since I unlocked steel?

[stuck oak]

Is there an issue with hand slots unlocking? I only have three available but I’ve done multiple MAM/Milestone things that claim to give hand slots

[potent badge]

idk ion have any fg thing it just feels floaty

my framerate is perfect but the grav just feels floaty

maybe im too used to the choppy feel of games

[naive palm]

yeah you're used to that riva tnt2 framerate

[lost wagon]

downloading blueprints is complicated when the person who made it used MK3 wall outlets to only have 1 power line on it

[spark ruin]

then thats probably it

[lost wagon]

52 High Speed Connectors in this small blueprint, wtf

[hard ivy]

I used to use the "appropriate" power pole to save inv space, but with DDs, it literally doesn't matter

[naive palm]

😔 til you can't put a blueprint designer in another blueprint designer

[lost wagon]

I only use mk1 unless I need more, then I will switch to another one, but if I was doing a blueprint for others to use I wouldn't spam Mk3 power stuff because bigger chance of whoever using it won't have them

it's just using it to pull the cable from one pilar to another, mk1 would be enough

[arctic spindle]

they made the closest ore impure on purpose

i have to tear down my whole factor

[rustic saddle]

yo can anyone help me with my factory

it would mean a lot

[lost wagon]

give us a force paste blueprint mode, if you're missing materials to build something on it, it will build the blueprint without the things you don't have the materials for

[rustic saddle]

???

does that invole me ?

[lost wagon]

no

[rustic saddle]

oh can you help

[lost wagon]

just saying they should give us a force blueprint paste like Dyson Sphere Program

[wicked nacelle]

do you like that game? DSP?

[rustic saddle]

can anyone help

[lost wagon]

just ask what you want and whoever knows how to help will help

[wicked nacelle]

do you want someone to build it for you? post here: https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1201555265942724758

[rustic saddle]

i mean ig

[wicked nacelle]

yeah, post https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1201555265942724758

[hard ivy]

or in #1038092680493801533

[rustic saddle]

but what would that do

[lost wagon]

Yea, it's pretty good, kinda have the thing I don't like as much about having to build a billion machines and then the resorces of the node end and you have to move shit around, but it's pretty good

[wicked nacelle]

but lots of people want people to play on their server and not play on someone else's... so maybe you don't get a bunch of responses

[lament olive]

Does anyone have a link to a good double/two-way train roundabout tutorial? I can find single lane ones easy enough but can't seem to find any doubles

[rustic saddle]

exacly

[steel delta]

Is there a setting where no dismantle box spawns when I dismantle something and my inventory is full? I've lost so many things because I didn't realise that no dismantle box is created when I dismantled something while having a full inventory

[rustic saddle]

i jusr=t want t=some help tbh

[hard ivy]

bi-di roundabout sounds insane

[hard ivy]

then #1038092680493801533

[rustic saddle]

so my factory looks as cool as tje ones in the trailer

[wicked nacelle]

roundabouts are single lane, right? Because they go both ways because it's a circle -- trains don't "turn left" they just go 270 degrees around

[lament olive]

You can see some here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j939cbiQWyg

But ideally I want a guide for the spacings so it's all nice and neat

I guess technically you might not call it a roundabout

[wicked nacelle]

it shows you the signal layout in the diagram on the right at like.. 6:45 . oh spacings? Yeah I dunno

[lament olive]

Yeah I found a nice video telling you how to place a nice neat single roundabout on a 7x7 foundation

[stray loom]

The whole philosophy behind a roundabout is to reduce conflict points by making it one way though

[lament olive]

So figured I can probably find the same for a double but no luck. I can probably figure it out though

[stray loom]

Trying to make it bi-directional just seems to me like you should be looking at a different solution to the intersection instead

[lament olive]

Yeah but this save isn't going to be mad on trains I just like the look of the double one I saw in that video I linked

[naive palm]

Keep playing. Keep trying new things. Don't be afraid to start a creative save and just goof around.

If you're just starting out, make sure to build things on foundations (and make sure to snap foundations to the world grid). That's my #1 tip to anybody.

As you get more advanced don't forget to use the awesome sink to unlock new cosmetics and materials.

Stay efficient my pioneer friend.

[cerulean gorge]

How tall should each floor be if i wanna build vertically

[stray loom]

Far enough I guess. Rule of cool and all that. Just seems to me like a nice large traditional cross would be just as effective and probably look just as good in the same kind of space

[wicked nacelle]

at the end of the video it says the world is downloadable so you could just look at what they did for spacing

[lament olive]

O.o

Thanks! Didn't remember that

[wicked nacelle]

19:36 -- dunno if it's true, but that's what it says 🙂

[stray loom]

I'm quite partial to those turbine style but larger so the elevation changes are more gradual. Think they look pretty cool

[quiet gust]

finishing phase 4 for the second time, now the game can begin

[supple drift]

DLC idea: Unsatisfactory.
All the sounds of machines are replaced with horrifying screeching, that can only be fixed by Phase 4 WD-40 for ten minutes per machine.
WD-40 must be applied manually and the recipe can only be purchased from the AWESOME shop after unlocking aluminum for a terribly high price.

[mortal ginkgo]

just play in Swamps

[tall plover]

can i somehow disable the grid for the Pipeline Wall Holes?

[acoustic fjord]

how do i build a conveyor up in the air?

[arctic spindle]

for making screws if i merge different constructors making rods then split them to constructors making screws will it automatically split them equally?

[arctic spindle]

conveyor poles

[acoustic fjord]

how do i make them tall

[arctic spindle]

hold left click and drag up

[cerulean gorge]

Are there any “must buys” from the awesome shop

[hard ivy]

ladder

wall mounts and holes

floor holes

[wicked nacelle]

I wish trains gibbed creatures

[arctic spindle]

I printed coupon but it disappeared I 0 in shop

[quiet gust]

chat im bouta waste rerolls on one of the worst alts in the game

any guesses?

[hard ivy]

cast screws

[quiet gust]

no i already ha s

[south sinew]

one of the biocoals, like charcoal maybe

[quiet gust]

nope

[wicked nacelle]

did you spend it? and didn't pick up the thing you bought? It'll still be in the store

[tall plover]

stupid batteries

[south sinew]

I definitely can't name any alt worse than charcoal

[quiet gust]

no

[quiet gust]

i didnt say THE worst i said one of

[hard ivy]

bolted plate/frame

[quiet gust]

I GOT IT

[arctic spindle]

i didnt get it in my inventory even though i had slots left

[quiet gust]

no

[wicked nacelle]

is it still in the shop inventory?

[quiet gust]

its my least fave recipe

[hard ivy]

coupons don't print straight to your inventory

[arctic spindle]

shop inventory never changed

[hard ivy]

fertile uranium?

[quiet gust]

no

[arctic spindle]

i redeemed it from the sink and got the achievement

[hard ivy]

yeah, I give up

[quiet gust]

petroleum diamonds

[hard ivy]

oh, yeah, that one's bad

[quiet gust]

but i have a bunch of excess eptoleum i saved for t9 so i can get to t9 belts quickly

[lean ferry]

guys do programmble splitters change ratios?

I swr u can change how much each material comes out from each end

NAH I GOT SCAMMED BRO SM1 TOLD ME U COULD

[hard ivy]

not without mods

[lean ferry]

so i got scammed

[wicked nacelle]

yeah, nah. They're pretty worthless

[lean ferry]

someone in this discord told me u could

[hard ivy]

not that I'd ever want to change the output ratios of a splitter

[lean ferry]

so how do I balance? just wait 2 hours for the manifold to balance itself?

[wicked nacelle]

sure, if that's what it takes

[south sinew]

yes, it's extremely slow and annoying

[wicked nacelle]

it's slow. whether it's annoying is up to you

[lean ferry]

WAIT 100 IQ MOMENT

what if I throttle it with mark 2 conveyors

[quiet gust]

or make as load balance which takes like 2 hours to make right

[lean ferry]

I can throttle cuz I need 190 and 120 seperately

[quiet gust]

do it

[lean ferry]

can I not just throttle with mk 2??
or

[wicked nacelle]

you could but you'll end up forgetting about it and confusing yourself later

[lean ferry]

I wont

[quiet gust]

( me when signs)

[lean ferry]

ill make my factory and never touch it again 🙂

[quiet gust]

mmake a label next to it

[wicked nacelle]

it's crazy how world building games often think signs should be late game and expensive

subnautica is awful for that

but also things you build have signs in them earlier and for much cheaper

[quiet gust]

chat i jsust spent 250 tickets so i could speedrun p4 and get to mk6 belts befoe advanced aluminum

[hard ivy]

rip golden nut

[quiet gust]

nah ill get it later

i did something similar my first playthrough

IF ORGOT PEAK EFFIECIENCY USES 10k plates aghghggh

[hard ivy]

OH GOD I WAS ALMOST RIGHT

1250 coupons costs nearly double the points 1000 does

lmao

I was gonna say "you're gonna pay double for those extra 250 coupons"

and I was almost exactly right

1.955x

[tall plover]

oh hell naw

ive never bought materials

except for that one fuel to unlock the research

[stray loom]

I'll buy smokeless powder and maybe a little bit of plastic just to get some unlocks sooner

[gritty spire]

just unlocked phase 3/oil. never played factory games before. i felt my brain take a poo as soon as i saw everything i needed to build

i thought coal was a lot

[leaden ether]

It would be really cool to have a half merger/half splitter. A single 4 port object that had two merger inputs and two splitter outputs. Same form factor as the current mergers and splitter. Would make high volume manifolds a lot cleaner rather than having to force a merger between splitters. In fact... Maybe a freeform merger/splitter that would work just like the pipe junction does....

[lean ferry]

bro

im never trusting satisfactory calculato

my dumbahh forgot to check if the end result was slooped

turns out this whole bloody time im only making 4 hmf instead of 8

😦

[hard ivy]

We already have that. It's called a 2:2 balancer

[lean ferry]

so basically im cooked

[cedar portal]

We don't have it in a single object

[hard ivy]

SCIM's production planner?

[leaden ether]

Yeah I mean in a single, inline, object. I;m already implementing it in my manifolds as is but it's messy looking.

[lean ferry]

wait

is the scim production planner tweaking

[hard ivy]

Yes

[lean ferry]

its saying I need 400/min screws for 4 hmf

[hard ivy]

It's garbage

[lean ferry]

so its innacurate

then why did it get recommended to me in a reddit post

[hard ivy]

It's always tweaking

[lean ferry]

but luckily

[hard ivy]

Satisfactory Tools is the good one

[lean ferry]

BRO

IM USING SATISFACTORY TOOLS AND THE RATIOS ARE ALL WRONG

its literally saying hmf 4 a min needs 400 screws 60 steel pipes

its 480 screws and 80 steel pipes

[hard ivy]

Depends on the recipes

Or do you have it set to update 8?

[lean ferry]

its not using alternate

[lean ferry]

....

...........

.......................

[hard ivy]

It literally displays a warning you're in the wrong version every time you open it

[lean ferry]

oh nevermind its not even that different

first time using it mb gng

im just missing a few smelters and constructors its ok...

[hard ivy]

Didn't even know that recipe changed in 1.0 lol

[lean ferry]

it was cheaper before

[hard ivy]

It's even worse that it used to be

🤣

It was utter dogshit in U8 and they decided to make it even worse???

[quiet gust]

what recipe

[hard ivy]

Default HMF

[lean ferry]

hmf

[quiet gust]

oh

yeah flexible is better

encased is best

[lean ferry]

I dont have those recipes

[hard ivy]

It was so shit I'd never use it before and it's even worse????

[quiet gust]

GET THEM

you can do without but like

[hard ivy]

My condolences. Heavy Encased Frame alone makes HMF factories 2x smaller and cheaper.

[lean ferry]

so your telling me

[hard ivy]

That's how shit default HMF is

[lean ferry]

I spent 3 hours

building a factory thats not even right ratios and is shit

😦

[quiet gust]

yerp

[lean ferry]

i have 4 hard drives

im gonna scan them tmmrw morning

[hard ivy]

It's still not good

[lean ferry]

if I get any of the alternate recipes im gonna tear down my whole factory

[hard ivy]

I see zero reason not to use Encased

[lean ferry]

rng

[open pollen]

It’s not shit. It’s just a factory
You can always make a new factory with the new recipe once you need more for anything

[lean ferry]

nah the ratios are fully wrong I was using wrong calculator

it is still really expensive anyways so it would be probably better to tear it down

[hard ivy]

With enough drives, there's no RNG

[lean ferry]

im only tier 6

[quiet gust]

yeah but drive hunting is annoying

[lean ferry]

holy

that is really cheap]

[quiet gust]

(you can technically get every drive excpet one with material found at crash sites)\

[lean ferry]

why except 1

[quiet gust]

1 needs a tier nine item that is not found at any crash pods

[lime ermine]

One site needs a tier 9 item

[lean ferry]

k

im gonna drive hunt till hmf alternate

if I get flexible do I still take it? my hmf factory is next to my oil production

[quiet gust]

but there are seven more vcrash pods then alts so ur fine

[hard ivy]

The resources to unlock the rest can be scattered around the map I think.

Maybe except black powder? Idk if that spawns

[stray loom]

There is at least one site in the northern forest that has black powder

[quiet gust]

even so thats like tier 3 compklexity

[stray loom]

Not sure if there are more

[lean ferry]

how many alternate recipes are there

[hard ivy]

Play with different recipes in tools, see if there's anything else you want

[open pollen]

Just remember to place a temp MAN when needed when out exploring MAM to start researching the drives while you explore

[hard ivy]

100 ish

[quiet gust]

112?

[lean ferry]

so if i divide that by 4 I am nearly guaranteed to see it at 20th harddrive or smth

tell me what alternate recipes I really need

[hard ivy]

Not all of them are available immediately

[quiet gust]

if ur liucky

[open pollen]

You can’t get the recipes for things you can’t make/haven’t unlocked. So the pool is smaller earlier and earlier into the game

[lean ferry]

what altenate recipes do I rlly need and I should definelty take (tier 6) I know diluted fuel and flexible what else

[hard ivy]

At tier 6, you only have like 60?

[quiet gust]

what i do is hunt for a good amount, maybe 10-20, then reroll the worst ones until i get the one i want

[stray loom]

Depends how many alternates you already have. They require you to have specific things to show up in the pool

[quiet gust]

70 i counted iirc

[lean ferry]

tell me a list of alternate I rlly need to be aware of

cuz im scared im just gonna roll off some op one

oh btw to solve my hmf issue im just gonna open save before I made factory

[quiet gust]

Heavy oil residue, diluted packaged fuel heavy encased frame, solid steel, then recycled rubber and plastic

those are the best in the game most players agree

[quiet gust]

DONT

[hard ivy]

For HMFs alone, I'd want:
Pure iron
Wet concrete
Iron pipe or solid steel
Steeled frame
Iron wire
Stitched iron plate
Encased industrial beam
Heavy encased frame

[quiet gust]

save the crappy factory so you still have some hmfg

[hard ivy]

Iron pipe made solid steel a lot less useful tbh

[lean ferry]

why

[quiet gust]

does it produce some hmf

[hard ivy]

Before 1.0, it was a must have, but now it's pretty meh

[lean ferry]

no its completely obsolete

[quiet gust]

any at all

[lean ferry]

ratios are wrong, its extremely expensive and power consuming

[lean ferry]

nil I am still struggling to get steel let alone screws

[quiet gust]

leave it while you hard drive hunt so you have some for later, then tear it down

[lean ferry]

I do have like 30 coupons so I did buy some but it makes NOTHING

[lean ferry]

nah cba the normal hmf farm is too big

the ratios are wrong anwyays so im gonna have to tear it down

[lean ferry]

no just like everything not hmf

not many just like the main ones I need

[open pollen]

Both Longuini and KYO have listed good ones tbh

[lean ferry]

k ill note them down

[quiet gust]

i would only take the ones kyo mentioned, but dont take any till ur done hunting, so as to limit the pool

[lean ferry]

good idea

[quiet gust]

you should get heavy encased frames, iron pipe or solid steel, and encased industrial pipes bare minimum

[open pollen]

But obviously look out for any that seem useful to you in particular as well. Like using multiple alt recipes can cut out the need for some materials in an entire production line, or some recipes require things you’ll have to transport in probably (like rubber or plastic)

So like some of it is a case by case basis

[lean ferry]

I mean eventually I will get all of them

[quiet gust]

yeah but unless you go on a 4 hour expidition, not all at once

[lean ferry]

im gonna get like 15/10 then ill scan them

[quiet gust]

i mean sacn them as you go to save time

[lean ferry]

ill get all the good ones and ill redo when im like tier 9

[lean ferry]

no as in like redeem ill scan while I go

[quiet gust]

yeah yeah fs

[open pollen]

What about my beloved stitched iron plates 🙁

[quiet gust]

not for an encased frame factory

i mean ig but not as needed

[stray loom]

Don't let perfect be the enemy of good. Sometimes it's better to just get something up and running to have that feeling of progress than it is waiting until you have everything perfect to even start

[arctic spindle]

I keep falling through when I slide near cliffs

[open pollen]

True, I personally liked using it for the modular frames to try to cut out screws in the entire process for HMF

[lean ferry]

ill do it tommorow morning then

bye guys

[gritty spire]

can oil be used for power like coal? it seems like it doesnt but i might be wrong

[south sinew]

you can turn it into fuel which can be used for power

[gritty spire]

is the fuel something that goes through pipes or conveyers

[south sinew]

pipes

[wicked nacelle]

you can package it but there's no reason to

fuel generators are a slightly later unlock but you should see it at the HUB

you'll need to start making some plastic and rubber first though I think -- and besides mk2 pipes are SUPER useful

[gritty spire]

okie i see it now. so i have to unlock petroleum power, fuel powered generator to make power for my factory

then i can use the fuel from the refinery and send it to the plant?

[south sinew]

yes

you can get a lot of power from oil power, a lot more than coal

[gritty spire]

im scared that the department of defense is gonna come for me if i start working on oil power

[arctic spindle]

I can't see my to do list

click on the right on the menu shows an empty list even though I've added stuff

[wicked nacelle]

just got my hourly crash...it's actually probably every 2 hours

[quiet gust]

what was the crash log

[wicked nacelle]

I don't bother looking. does it put it in a file somewhere?

[quiet gust]

cause this sounds eerily similar to when i reached the object limit

[wicked nacelle]

I just hit "send and restart"

[wicked nacelle]

I would guess if there is an object leak + the number of intentional objects that that's it

[south sinew]

yeah 1.1 added an object leak issue I believe

[quiet gust]

if the first sentence of the log mentions that the object limit is reached or similar you can fix the crashing outright

[quiet gust]

that too but hes building an omega factory so its more likely

[wicked nacelle]

do the logs get stored in files somewhere?

ah found it

[quiet gust]

i dont think, but next time it crashes check the first line of the crash report

or that works

[south sinew]

how is it fixable?

[wicked nacelle]

[2025.07.18-18.34.58:687][971]LogScript: Warning: Script Msg: Divide by zero: Divide_DoubleDouble

[quiet gust]

you increase the object limit, can i link wiki..gg links?

[south sinew]

doesn't that have adverse effects on the game's stability? and also whatever you increase the limit to, it's just going to leak to the new limit, so all you're doing is increasing the time between crashes right?

[quiet gust]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Unreal_Engine#:~:text=The default limit set in,%2C not in-game objects.

[quiet gust]

alittle bit but the time is majorly increased

[vale fox]

on the satisfactory modeler, how do i make conveyor lines?

[quiet gust]

its worth it for large scale bc if its an object issue, the time between crashes will get lower and lower, eventaully the map cant be opened, and you cant play

[wicked nacelle]

@quiet gust yep, you nailed it: Fatal error: [File:D:\BuildAgent\work\SR11_BT\UE4\Engine\Source\Runtime\CoreUObject\Private\UObject\UObjectArray.cpp] [Line: 534] Maximum number of UObjects (2162688) exceeded when trying to add 1 object(s), make sure you update MaxObjectsInGame/MaxObjectsInEditor/MaxObjectsInProgram in project settings.

[arctic spindle]

should I get the blueprint gun Idk what it does

[quiet gust]

yup

[quiet gust]

it lets you build arrays of machines

[tall plover]

I just got the Railroad Tycoon achievment - I built my first track today - i dont even have any trains setup yet lmao

[quiet gust]

I was a dumbass who didnt check for about 200 hours even though i knew it existed and it got really bad

[quiet gust]

the link i sent will show you how to fix it

[vale fox]

on the satisfactory modeler, how do i make conveyor lines?

[quiet gust]

like actually conveyors, or connections between nodes

[quiet gust]

ALSO MAKE SURE YOU PRESS SAVE ON THE THING IT OPENS UP

[vale fox]

either

[wicked nacelle]

I know how to use a text editor 🙂

I've got it up in vscode

[quiet gust]

drag the line from the input or output and connect it to either a pre existing node or set it anywhere to make a node that uses said item

[quiet gust]

You see i dont, and that caused more problems lmao

[wicked nacelle]

fair 'nuff

[vale fox]

tysm

[wicked nacelle]

I didn't restart but we'll see what happens after the next crash.

@quiet gust do you know if you can get the game to tell you the object count>?

[quiet gust]

No but I've heard there a mod

[quiet gust]

Ofc

[wicked nacelle]

it's not actually important, it would just be interesting to watch

[quiet gust]

Yeah but you really have no other ways to fix it

And with the 1.1 object leak it's worse than ever

[wicked nacelle]

whoever told me to do a priority nitrogen split by packaing/unpackaging, thank you. had to actually do this now. need to take as muhc as needed for uranium waste refining but then send the rest out

[cedar portal]

Niceee. I wish that worked for all gasses, I needed to do some priority and overflow stuff with Dark Matter Residue and you just can't.

[quiet gust]

yeah but you need so few machines for that its ok

[cedar portal]

I'm trying to make 10 warp drives/min and need a lot of it. And part of the production line makes the residue and I have to make extra using SAM and trying to get it to use the byprduct first is a pain. Got it working but it's messy

[quiet gust]

i did something that didnt need any of that for double the amount, but its been iahwile so i dont remember what exactly

[quiet gust]

are you doing the thing where you mix the time crystal recipe and the one that uses just dmr to get max effieciency?

[shy mulch]

10 BWD is ambitious. I'm going for 4, that'll do me for now. Might plan to scale up eventually but I'd like to get the 4 done for now

[quiet gust]

i did 20

xaxxon is doing 80 i think

[cedar portal]

Right now I'm using the time crystal recipie, yes. And I have looped the machine that makes the crystals.

[wicked nacelle]

I waited too long to start making turbo diamonds. Turbo diamonds are a good source of high coal-efficiency diamonds

[south sinew]

I prefer oil diamonds

[quiet gust]

i made a desmos calculator so i can minmax the amount of dmr and save as many diamonds as posible

[wicked nacelle]

quartz is great and easy but... dang you run out fast

[wicked nacelle]

I've long since used all the oil

[cedar portal]

It's running at 5 now, but generating extra ssupeerposition osc's which I have to sink so it can make enough dark energy residue to keep it all going. Have to do that, or make extra with SAM ore but that gets into icky issuees with having to use VIPs which I hate.

[cedar portal]

Yeah, I have all the crater oil going into diamonds.

[shy mulch]

That sounds like it's getting into the realms of theoretical maximums

[quiet gust]

thats his goal

[quiet gust]

the practical max is 120ish

[cedar portal]

80 is pretty insane. My factory is a giant mess, things crammed into wherver, stuff not optomized. But 10 warps/min will make me happy.

[quiet gust]

how many of the other parts

[shy mulch]

I feel the same. I've just finished a factory making 20 alien power matrix and it's a bit chaotic but I'm happy it works smoothly that's the main thing for now

[cedar portal]

I need to sit down and actually write out what all my factories do and how much the produce. I just kinda wing it mostly and run around fixing bottleneckss when I create them. I have signs all over sayign what does what but it gets tiring running around to look at them 🙂

[quiet gust]

im making that or at least planning to, how pain was that

[cedar portal]

I have so many huge factories that made stuff for previous tiers and even previous versions before recipie changes so plenty of them are abled to eat up all of a resource if I'm not careful. Lost of half-idle machines all over.

[shy mulch]

I'm amazed I get anything to work. I've got small factories everywhere all connected with belts, drones, chaos and quantum dreams

[shy mulch]

Headache inducing 😂

[quiet gust]

Where'd you do it

[shy mulch]

As with all endgame stuff, dark matter residue is the main headache

[quiet gust]

Tbh I never have the issue bc I made a desmos graph to minimize headaches 😎

[cedar portal]

Luckily I have close to 200 sommerloops so can use them where they are needed, including boosting power to cover those big machines looped and slugged.

[shy mulch]

North West part of dune desert over the river

[tall plover]

i thought there were only 100ish?

[shy mulch]

Using mod or edit save?

[quiet gust]

i just realized this is the factory where i use lime diamonds so i need 16k limestone....

[wicked nacelle]

there are only a bit over 100 in the vanilla

or if you had a save when they respawned

[tall plover]

thats doable

[cedar portal]

@shy mulch @tall plover @wicked nacelle I've been playign this save since day one, and every time they reset the map and put them back I'd collect them. Had a box full of them by the time they made them usefull 😄

[quiet gust]

definently but the place with the densest amount of limestone whicvh is the rockey desert, is aleady claimsed...

Chat I need to get 900 powershards so I have the power so I can automate power shards lmao

[cedar portal]

I consider the extra loops payment for building huge factories before zoop mode existed and dealing with trucks launching themselves into the void with all my stuff

[tall plover]

Ive put on powershards while not using the machine for anything else and now have a full industrial container full of em

[shy mulch]

You don't need much to get started with power shards

[quiet gust]

I'm doing my nitro rocket fuel plant before I do my matrix power plant which works as my powershards plant

[shy mulch]

That's exactly the order I did it too

How much rocket fuel you aiming for?

[quiet gust]

Rn I have a 26gw turbo fuel plant

[quiet gust]

Long story short, 2880 for now, then 3,333.333 more for ionized fuel later

[shy mulch]

I had a lot of fun making my rocket fuel plant, then realised how many fuel gens I had to build to use it all, that was slightly less fun haha

[wicked nacelle]

you can make an autoconnecting 4-burner blueprint. makes it pretty quick. you have to go back and daisy chain the power, but it's still pretty quick

[quiet gust]

So 6213.3333 total

[cedar portal]

I still have buildings from back when oil came out in barrels. Land changes partially buried them and I leave them as a monument for those lost times 😄
#screenshots message

[quiet gust]

I also don't have an advanced aluminum factory soooo

The Tier skipping is real ig

[shy mulch]

You'll want to have automated power shards to place in the fuel gens, or you're making more work for yourself

[shy mulch]

Still takes a while, but yes that does save a lot of time

[cedar portal]

I like this one, still have the fuel on the belts.
#screenshots message

[fallen moss]

Question chat, roughly where are the spawn locations on the map? Are they very far from each other?

[quiet gust]

The second half will be after I have them

[wicked nacelle]

biggest thing is you can't rely on DD for mats, you gotta plan ahead and bring the mats in your inv

[cerulean gorge]

hi

[wicked nacelle]

yes, they are in very different parts of the map -- but you can always walk there. the map isn't THAT big

[quiet gust]

(or hyper tune back and forth)

[quiet gust]

The 900 is bc I need 830, but if I have 100 so I only need 800 and have enough extra for extractors

[shy mulch]

Unless you have multiple dd being fed so they get replenished fast enough

[wicked nacelle]

you'd have to set it up just for this as you can drop a lot of low-stack size mats really quick

You burn through rubber REALLLLL quick

every blueprint is a stack

[shy mulch]

For stuff I'm likely to use plenty of I tend to have a industrial storage with two dd, one on each output. So whatever I'm doing it'll be replenished at 480/m which is enough for 99% of use cases

[wicked nacelle]

Most people probably aren't even producing rubber fast enough to support this use case

you're dropping 100-200 per second of rubber

[shy mulch]

Even with blueprints I don't think my hands move that fast

[wicked nacelle]

they snap together so it's basically just as fast as you can hoverpack

[shy mulch]

I'm sure some people can do that, but I can't. I'm old and slow. I probably place 4-5 blueprints per minute at best

[fallen moss]

Where is your favourite starting location chat?

[quiet gust]

all of them are good

northern forrest but not for any particular reason

[wicked nacelle]

I rotate. but the oen on the middle west coast is probably the best all around spot -- oil and aluminum nearby and it's pretty

[cerulean gorge]

my first and current save is in the grasslands

[quiet gust]

i also dont care much about location b/c for example my starting location and fuel plant are on opposite ends of the world

[fallen moss]

Me and a friend did Rocky Desert and it's been really good so far, but I wanna start a solo run, and the others seem annoying to build on just cause the terrain isn't very flat

Well, besides the first one I guess, I more mean the forest and dunes

[quiet gust]

dunes is flat just use foundations

USE FOUNDATIONS EVERYWHERE

[fallen moss]

Yeah but the land is like, so varied in height

[quiet gust]

so? build on the highest point and you will be fine

[fallen moss]

😭

[cerulean gorge]

i dont use the foundations that much and i dont use walls that much

[quiet gust]

USE FOUNDATIONS

it will make lif so much better

[fallen moss]

Couldn't imagine not using foundations

[cerulean gorge]

longuini, do you know how tall each floor has to be so i have enough clearance

[fallen moss]

Question, wtf is your name?

[shy mulch]

Put one machine down anywhere on your floor and build up by eye until there's enough clearance

[cerulean gorge]

wtf is urs

[fallen moss]

Fair enough

Continue on

[cerulean gorge]

The factory must grow, the land must stripped of all biomass, and my stupid lizard dogs keep clipping through conveyor belts and getting stuck

[shy mulch]

That's his discord password 😂

[quiet gust]

build a pen

[cedar portal]

I had 12 doggos in a pen and they vanished with the 1.0 update. Sad.

[willow glen]

2m walls will stop doggos. 1m wall won’t

oh yeah 1.0 respawned all fauna as well

[cerulean gorge]

2m walled pen when i introduce 2m lizard doggos

[high plinth]

so uhhhhhh

im struggling to make a compact low tier factory, currently trying to connect 12 smelters to 24 constructors

anybody got ideas or wanna help?

[cerulean gorge]

building vertically or splitters/mergers?

i dont have that much time playing the game

[high plinth]

splitters/mergers

[wicked nacelle]

why not both?

but I generally make a tier of item on a floor and then move the product of that to the next floor up to build stuff from that

[high plinth]

ive considered verticality but the space continued to concern me, as well as the height between floor and machine wasted a lot of space, because a slither of the machines clipped through the floor preventing me from building

[wicked nacelle]

not building vertically wastes even more vertical space -- all of it

[cerulean gorge]

xaxxon, is 12 or 16m tall walls good for each story

[wicked nacelle]

depends on what is on a floor -- I don't build the next floor until the current one is done

if you have particle accelerators or refineries on a floor you're going to have to go higher

I usually just build a full wall height beyond the tops of whatever is on the floor below

[cerulean gorge]

Foundation (Ground Floor), Add 12 or 16m walls, then another f oundation

[high plinth]

i got none of those im at like t4 or t5

doing milestone expanded power infrastructure

[wicked nacelle]

you have refineries -- basdically same height

[high plinth]

is it specifically named that?

if so i dont see that

[wicked nacelle]

oh I don't know what the T-whatever vs elevator stuff is

[high plinth]

or do you mean the general machinery

[wicked nacelle]

it's unlocked with oil

[cerulean gorge]

when do i unlock elevators lmao

[high plinth]

oh im on coal 😦

[wicked nacelle]

yeah, so after next elevator parts

anyhow, just build the next floor a bit higher than the highest stuff on the one below it 🙂

or fully plan out the factory but... BLECH

[stray loom]

16m covers constructors, assemblers, manufacturers, and blenders. Refineries need like 30m or something. Same with particle accelerators

[high plinth]

well even then i still run into space problems, i need to minimize space as much as possible, and when i bring the materials to the next floor, the layout of the constructors and assemblers would remain about the same, no?

[cerulean gorge]

Hey ADA, add "Build costco warehouse" to my to-do list

[high plinth]

💀

ill just keep trying to freestyle this. made a bunch of hand written notes on recipes and ratios and layouts so that'll help but this still lowkey hard

or morely tedious for my goal

[stray loom]

Why do you have to minimize space? The world is giant. Pave it all. It's what ADA would want

[cerulean gorge]

i just used a calculator (it's pinned in one of the channels)
https://satisfactory-calculator.com/
(also i'm lazy)

[high plinth]

so i can have more space for more factory 💪

theres never enough manufacturing!

[wicked nacelle]

but you're saying you CAN'T build more factory.. to leave room to build more factory??

[high plinth]

i dont think i said cant but if i did mb, but yes just instead of cant its dont want

im trying to use the least possible space which is proving hard

one of my ideas was, look at 1 smelter, ores go into a splitter, one conveyer belt stays on the same floor to a constructor, then the right side uses the verticle conveyer to go up a floor

[wicked nacelle]

that's an uncommon form of optimization for players of this game

[high plinth]

but i was hoping i could do all manufacturing that on one floor

[high plinth]

i love my space 💪

[cerulean gorge]

i've done reinforced iron plates on one floor and it was hard

I had to automate smart plates and that was even harder for me lol

[stray loom]

Clip the belts. Annoy people

[high plinth]

smart plates gonna be hard for me lol but i think ill run that stuff into another factoryh

[high plinth]

noo 🤣

but its viable and keeps up with my goal

[cerulean gorge]

do you wanna see my spaghetti cluster of mini-factories

[high plinth]

lol sure

[cerulean gorge]

lemme boot up satisfactory

where do i find the photo's folder for the game

[stray loom]

AppData\Local\FactoryGame\Saved\Screenshots\Windows\

If they are through the photo mode

[cerulean gorge]

gonna hurt people's eyes now

[high plinth]

@cerulean gorge erm chat thats not very space efficient ☝️ 🤓

[cerulean gorge]

haha

i know

it meets minimum output for each recipe though

[wicked nacelle]

okay, I printed my tickets, set a timer, and will come back in an hour and see if I have 60.

If I average a ticket a minute for an hour I consider my 240M/m challenge met 🙂

[high plinth]

i get 240 tickets in my sleep 🥱 🥀

[cerulean gorge]

i steal 240 tickets in your sleep

[high plinth]

baright 😔

[cerulean gorge]

look at you having a bunch of freetime to build a warehouse lol

[high plinth]

i work overtime i just like the game 😔

[cerulean gorge]

I build simple and practical lol

[wicked nacelle]

nope, failed challenge. need more dark crystals

[high plinth]

boooo boring

[high plinth]

get to grinding lil jit 🥀

[cerulean gorge]

i'm gonna hacker your game so you only get impure limestone nodes

[high plinth]

noooo thats so much more work in a sense 😭

[cerulean gorge]

Woe Upon Ye, Inefficient Resource Deposits for thee

[high plinth]

well ngl im overstocked on concrete so we chillin

💪

bluds never heard of overstocked before 🥱

[cerulean gorge]

you're overstocked on concrete, i'm stuck with too many wires and cables

[high plinth]

same 🥱 🥱 🥱

[cerulean gorge]

lowkey the points shop is peak trash can

[naive pendant]

Does "peak trash can" mean not good?

[cerulean gorge]

how dare you imply that

i'm gonna feed you to the sink

[high plinth]

💀

[naive pendant]

Looking up in chat... I see we are memeing

Carry on

[high plinth]

baright 🥀

okay so i have a general understanding now but i may need to delete everything inside first lol

[pure condor]

my scroll wheel is broken and logitech support left me on delivered twice

[high plinth]

i think my smelters are just simply too close

[cerulean gorge]

my favorite part of the early game, tearing down and rebuilding lol

[high plinth]

hooray!!

[cerulean gorge]

wdym the smelters are too close? is it hard to get the belts to different places?

[high plinth]

tuff luck lil jit youre just not cool enough to be supported 🥱

[cerulean gorge]

go on the internet and post your story 🐟
you'll get people who will support you

[high plinth]

for every two smelters i need three constructors, but even putting the constructors slightly behind eachother to minimize horizontel room, the smelters are still slightly more compact even with some space between them, meaning to connect them all, the belts would slowly go farther and farther away

thats the best i could explain

[cerulean gorge]

what if the smelters merged their (similar)outputs and you can split them into 3 different lifts at different heights

[pure condor]

I just got in touch with my 4th logitech customer support agent and she left me on delivered again

I didnt even say anything bad though

[cerulean gorge]

peak customer support service, keep running around in loops and get you to give up

[pure condor]

literally

I was trying to be as nice as possible

[high plinth]

let me rephrase mb, while some of what im manufacturing requires a 2:3 ratio of smelters to constructurs, im instead doing a 1:2 ratio so i need one top one bottom, but i just got an idea ill attempt

[cerulean gorge]

Give up, you're wasting your time talking to them

[last tartan]

blud can’t say the actual words 💀

[high plinth]

i may have been reading into my problems wrong

[last tartan]

realistically speaking if a moderator saw what you just said you’d get muted either way

[pure condor]

ok

[high plinth]

ill continue working on my notepad and ill just draw a sort of vertical view to make this easier for me to understand ig

what

[last tartan]

why are you speaking so crass

[high plinth]

what do you mean

[last tartan]

there’s no reason to be treating people with the disrespect you are

[cerulean gorge]

I'm not sure about ratios for producing a certain product but I try to use a calculator to try and figure out how to best produce certain materials in a smaller factory, I think verticality is something I should practice

[high plinth]

i dont understand lol

[last tartan]

<@&387163995947270144> shouldn’t this be bannable 🥶

[high plinth]

same here besides the calculator, but that would help i should use one lol. verticality is certainly important hence why im trying it so im hoping it works

but im realizing ive been reading into the problem wrong, i may be able to clutch this up

[cerulean gorge]

oh, i linked one earlier but here it is again https://satisfactory-calculator.com/

I think you could try working on a large grid like 20 by 20 then build vertically to at least increase the height you can build (or prevent clipping)

[quiet gust]

me when i discover slurs are bad

[last tartan]

let’s just ignore the racial slur I guess..

[high plinth]

if this is an ip grabber i have a vpn!!!!!!!!!!

shoutout proton ❤️

[high plinth]

thanks

[last tartan]

👏👏👏

[high plinth]

i have a large grid atm around 15x 15y

[quiet gust]

i thought all links were banned unless whitelisted

[dreamy scroll]

My man just got fed into the awesome sink

[cerulean gorge]

I use a calculator that was pinned in math and meta channel

[high plinth]

this lowkey might be clutch

[quiet gust]

i know i mean there shouldnt be risk of virus site or anything like that

[high plinth]

for the past couple days i just been doing handwritten notes, ill show you

[cerulean gorge]

don't forget to go to options and set realistic so you can change purity and speed (idk)

hand written notes are nice!

The hard part is being neat for me lol

[high plinth]

they help but not enough 🥀

kinda same lol, my handwriting too

[cerulean gorge]

hopefully the calculators online help lol

[stray loom]

Man's out here writing on paper like some kind of savage

[high plinth]

💀

[cerulean gorge]

i prefer breaking into houses in the dead of night and forcing random people to dream up my factories for me

[high plinth]

baright 🥀

[lost wagon]

was gonna make a factory to make rifle ammo but will nee to figure out the least bad place to build it since it needs shit from across the map, if even worth doing it

[high plinth]

in da sky ☁️ 🌞 🥀

[quiet gust]

whats ur starting loc

[jaunty jewel]

what happened here

[quiet gust]

?

[lost wagon]

rocky desert

[cerulean gorge]

nothing out of the usual

[jaunty jewel]

cant you guys behave for one day smh

[cerulean gorge]

bold of you to have expectations

[stray loom]

No

[quiet gust]

mine is just made by the sulfur node behind the quartz cave, but i did have to belt in some oil

there are no real good spots

from rocky

[high plinth]

I FIGURED IT OUT YEAHHH but not as compact as i wished but still satisfactory (no pun)

[lost wagon]

I don't mind making it away, will just take time to bring the power there

[cerulean gorge]

new dlc: unsatisfactory

1. All constructed items will always be clipping
2. All impure nodes
3. Everything is misaligned
4. Only biofuel
5. No more space elevator, now introducing space escalator

[lost wagon]

only manual crafting

[stray loom]

Game comes with a set of pedals to go under your desk and your factory only works if you pedal. Otherwise the power goes off

[cerulean gorge]

no more lizzard doggos

[jaunty jewel]

every day is leg day then

[cerulean gorge]

imagine if fuses randomly start popping at random

[stray loom]

Craftable fuses

[cerulean gorge]

fuses cost ficsit tickets

it'd be kind acool to board the space elevator and conquer other planets

[pure condor]

how do I get to tier 5

I finished tier 4 but its still locked

[stray loom]

Complete project phase 2

[pure condor]

oh hell nah

[cerulean gorge]

It is time...SHOW HIM THE QUOTA!!!

[pure condor]

thats gonna take soo long

it tooke me forever just to get coal working

and it still randomly stops working

[cerulean gorge]

the only part i dont like about coal is having to build the biomass burners to kickstart them

[pure condor]

yeah that was so annoying

[gilded goblet]

whats the theoretical highest amount of MW's you can produce

[cerulean gorge]

like i need 4-5 coal plants to completely phase out biomass burners for the current factory

[ivory carbon]

ive seen people look at a machine and press a key to build another one without opening the menu what bind is this?

[gilded goblet]

middle mouse button

[ivory carbon]

ty

[pure condor]

I have 15 right now but thats not enough still

[gilded goblet]

i want about 3000 MW's out of my coal plant after I build it

[cerulean gorge]

40 coal plants 🐟

[gilded goblet]

ik

[cerulean gorge]

where do you even find all the water to slurp it up

[gilded goblet]

water isn't finite

you just throw a bunch of extractors down then pipe it there

[pure condor]

The logitech support said give me 5 minutes and then when they came back said sorry for the long wait and nothing else

they stopped talking again

[cerulean gorge]

like are you in a big lake with a billion water snorters?

[gilded goblet]

eh

[cerulean gorge]

how many extractors did it take to fuel the 40 plants

[gilded goblet]

no clue haven't built it yet

should take like 15 ish

[turbid badge]

So I fell to the abyss and died and my death crate spawned somewhere very deep down where I can't reach (or if I reach it, I wouldnt be able to get back up). How could I use SCIM to get it higher or even better just respawn it besides my player?

[wicked nacelle]

you can edit the coordinates of an item in scim -- just crank up the altitude

[frail sleet]

you could call it a lake https://i.imgur.com/siotfQf.jpeg

[wicked nacelle]

you can change the other coordinates, too. or you could just give yourself the important items and just delete the crate in scim

[cerulean gorge]

i can't comprehend what you just posted

[frail sleet]

big map, lots of water

[pure condor]

oh my

[frail sleet]

the first starting zone just gaslights you into thinking that there isn't much because it randomly has the least water out of every biome

the deserts literally have more water

and that's before taking into account the whole oceans that they're sat next to

[pure condor]

thats mad

[stray loom]

Turn on the world border in SCIM and you'll see just how much water you can build on

[pure condor]

what is that

I just started I dont know what that means

[stray loom]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

Obvious spoiler alert

[warped cypress]

oml

the dimentional uploader...

its

its gonna make my life so much better lmao

[naive palm]

it's so good

I <3 ||the chorus effigy||

[warped cypress]

frrrr

i finally found a sam ore depo

and im suddenly so so very greatful

[naive palm]

[warped cypress]

i have a lot of those lol

im making the

sam fluctuators rn

[lost wagon]

why the hell the turn rail blueprints always snap to one direction

I want it to go to the left it always connect going to right, I want to go to the right it connects going to the left wtf

rotating it doesn't make it snap to the other side

[warped cypress]

rip idk

im not up to that level yet lol

[atomic siren]

is this correct? fuel generator setup w/ 2 pure oil nodes and default recipes. I feel like I should be able to get more than 4 fuel generators? Any way I can get 8 or 10?
#screenshots message

[warped cypress]

turns out i dont have as many as i thought

time to explore

[polar patio]

use the satisfactory tools production line calculator it lets you ajust all the inputs outputs and recipes.

[quiet gust]

fun fact you need 97 to fully upgrade the depot

[atomic siren]

yeah I know i just made a quick draft thats easier for me to understand

[stray loom]

Lmao I forgot about this line. ADA just said 'I'm not sure I understand the mechanics of this' and the voice responded with 'Sad trombone'

[cerulean gorge]

womp womp

[wanton fox]

Phase 4 Baby!!. Now im tier 6, what should unlock first

[wicked nacelle]

you basically just go in order the whole game

often the later unlocks require the earlier ones anyhow so there's not really a lot of options

[dense violet]

I mean sure but tools would confirm if you’re right or not

[ivory carbon]

how can i build multiple foundations at once instead of placing them individually?

[stray loom]

Hit R when building to change the build mode to Zoop

[wicked nacelle]

there is a mod called infinite zoop that lets you zoop both width and depth at the same time

also, I commonly use a 5x5 foundation blueprint

oope there it is. out of objects. first reboot since changing the limit so now let's see what happens

[dense violet]

What enz said - most objects have build modes accessible by tapping r

Look under your cursor when building and you’ll see loads of options

[granite locust]

i cant open my game. get the same error code every time. could i get some help?

[ruby wing]

Whats the error code?

[granite locust]

one sec i can get it

[ruby wing]

I PMed you

[granite locust]

okie dokie

[mellow musk]

Let me know what they say, if it gets fixed. Not that I have that issue but i'm rather curious.

[gritty sleet]

So TIL there's a "dungeon" in the canyons by the western beaches that has a xeno-basher AND blade runners inside it?

(And a ton of random parts that you usually only find at crash sites)

[stray loom]

The lizard doggo cave

[gritty sleet]

Is that what it is? I didn't go in, just noticed on the Satisfactory Calculator map

[stray loom]

Yeah. There is also an unlockable helmet in there

[gritty sleet]

TIL there's hidden cosmetics in the game too

[stray loom]

There are also hidden tapes for the jukebox if you didn't know that already

[gritty sleet]

I did find 2/3 of those. I haven't been to the high-up dune desert one yet.

[stray loom]

I don't think any were in that cave but there are a few around

[gritty sleet]

Separate note: It'd be funny if you could fuel trucks with nitric acid. It works for hypergolic-fueled rockets (aside from being mega-poison)

[cerulean gorge]

nah i'd rather drink it

[frail sleet]

It's because you're making plastic and rubber, not fuel

[dreamy bane]

how do i extract the nitrogen gas?the resource well pressuriser needs a fracking core node? whats that

[quiet gust]

the presurizer has offshoots

[gritty sleet]

The big central pump that forces nitrogen out all the little nodes

[stray loom]

It comes in 2 parts. The big bit that goes on the middle and then smaller bits that have the pipe outputs that go at the ends of the veins

[dreamy bane]

so the core node is for the big one

[gritty sleet]

Yep

[dreamy bane]

got it thanks

[atomic siren]

well yeah plastic/rubber and then the residue gets turned into fuel. Is there a better way to do this?

[dreamy bane]

so each of these small nodes that say"pure" can all be extracted?

[stray loom]

Yes. If you look at the ui for the pressurizer in the middle it will have a bunch of circles showing how many smaller nodes there are at that well location

Each one of those nodes can have a purity like the normal resources

[gritty sleet]

And if you overclock the pressurizer, it increases the production of all extractors at the same time

[dreamy bane]

right got it

[stiff thicket]

@tidal canopy
Oh for sure. That’s why I pre-installed 117 smelters — to make the teardown more cinematic.

[tidal canopy]

? is that sarcastic orr??

[stiff thicket]

yes

[snow jewel]

wait quick question
do any power slugs respawn at all?

[frozen cloud]

nope

[snow jewel]

ruh roh

[frozen cloud]

but you can automate power shards later though

[tidal canopy]

well i have just founf that large projects early game are sick but becuse you get allot of upgrades to miners ect later and crystals you end up rebuilding everything

[snow jewel]

is there a limited amount of them?

[frozen cloud]

nope
but its quite late
if you unlock the other stuff in the slug MAM tree you can see the recipe

[snow jewel]

yaaa i was just thinking that

[stiff thicket]

My friend said we didn’t have enough production...
I said: hold my beer. 🍺🔥

[tidal canopy]

i guess lol

[stiff thicket]

🤣

[dreamy bane]

umm why does my water extractor say "999 nuclear waste" instead of water?

who tf is putting nuclear waste into the water streams

[frail sleet]

Yes, you can directly make fuel.

[atomic siren]

From just crude oil? Sorry I’m not at my pc right now

[frail sleet]

yeah

[atomic siren]

oh I’m just blind then thanks lol

[wicked nacelle]

are you playing current version? Pretty sure they fixed that bug long ago. anyhow, just put your water extractor somewhere else.

[dreamy bane]

thanks that fixed it

[dense violet]

You can get about 5k shards just from map slugs, you’ll be ok

[ruby wing]

We have checked it on her PC I think her GPU is just not enough for the game. Whenever she starts the game it says the the video card drives must be updated and it directs to the official intel pages, but there it says that is is already up to date

She has an Intel UHD G1

[cerulean gorge]

integrated graphics?

[ruby wing]

Yep

[cerulean gorge]

dang, gotta get her a dedicated gpu

[ruby wing]

She has a PC she will try there 😄

[mellow musk]

yeah she's running off a laptop atm

[cerulean gorge]

external gpu

[stray loom]

I'm curious what the performance would be like if you were able to get that to run given that I can make my 4090 curl up in the fetal position in the corner with the settings cranked up

[cerulean gorge]

you'd be better off hand-drawing the game atp

[stray loom]

The elusive 3 seconds per frame

[cerulean gorge]

3 to 5 business days per frame

[fathom shuttle]

The game does ok on high graphics settings, the performance downgrades a lot when you place lots of machines

[gritty sleet]

@reef basin There's a weird minor bug in Tools where sometimes the first production planner tab's name gets changed to the name of some other tab when you close and then reopen your browser. It's happened twice now, but I'm not sure if it got changed to the name of the same other tab both times.

[cerulean gorge]

is overclocking in-game me inserting a power shard into a machine for a short amount of time for a small window of increased production

[dense violet]

overclocking is any time you increase a machine over 100%

[cerulean gorge]

how long do power shards last

[dense violet]

forever

[cerulean gorge]

poor slugs lmao

[dense violet]

hold off until later if you don't want to squish the slugs, you can make shards.

or use a save editor to give you shards. It's what I do cause I like leaving them alone to be lights at night

[cerulean gorge]

nah i'd squish

i only have 3 power shards

[gritty sleet]

Fun fact, when you overclock power generators, there's no downside. OC'ing to 200% just means double the fuel consumption, double the power output.

So effectively turning one power generator building into up to 2.5 of the same building.

[dense violet]

use sloops to make more

[dense violet]

except for eating through your shard supply.

[cerulean gorge]

i need a 5th coal plant if i wanna phase out my biomass burners :/

[languid bison]

My GTX 1070 powered through
My i7-6700 could not bear the weight of the conveyor belts

[void cliff]

Mass logistics is so daunting of a task. Do you generally set up a huge train track around the entire map?

[gritty sleet]

True, but at this point I have over 400 shards (solely from slugs) sitting in my DD, despite heavily overclocking my factories to make them smaller for aesthetic reasons.

[gritty sleet]

That's what I did 😄

[languid bison]

Generally a main storage hub can help route items through it then to the factories that need them (yes by train)

[dense violet]

you'll often have 48-64 before doing a serious fuel station

[dense violet]

are you in the grassy fields?

[gritty sleet]

Fwiw I made it to oil->fuel-based power with 32 coal power plants beforehand

But my builds tend to be fairly small

[dense violet]

yeah you can do it much much earlier. I just like waiting for a solid blended diluted fuel set up 😄

[gritty sleet]

That's fair. I did diluted fuel, but I also rushed blenders and the hoverpack by buying aluminum with coupons way before I was ready for that tier.

[willow glen]

I was in the same situation till I made my rocket fuel plant. Had to go collect more slugs twice just to finish it

[cerulean gorge]

i had to expand to a big lake northwestm i already tapped into the pure nodes east and west of my little base

[gritty sleet]

The crater lake is pretty nice

[cerulean gorge]

i need a nobelisk detonator to get rid of a rock though

[dense violet]

yup that's the spot for power in grassy fields. Use all 4 nodes, make 32 gens, then 64 when you get mk3 belts. use the closer coal for steel

[cerulean gorge]

how many coal plants can i connect to a single water extractor, i'm assuming 2 max

[gritty sleet]

Three water extractors are good for four coal plants. The ratios start to get a bit trickier at this point in the game.

[cerulean gorge]

so a 3:4?

[gritty sleet]

Or wait, sorry, that's 3:8

[dense violet]

do the math.
coal gends need 45 each, extractors do 120

!wikisearch CG

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=CG

[dense violet]

some example layouts

[gritty sleet]

But keep in mind that the mk1 pipes can't do that all in one shot, so you'd need to do (4 coal plants -> 3 water extractors <- 4 coal plants)

[dense violet]

thats a giant waste.

look at the diagrams

they are right there

[gritty sleet]

You just put the three extractors with four plants on each side of them, so that the mk1 pipes don't get overloaded.

I guess what I described is effectively the bottom diagram

[vast salmon]

guys is it bad that im like halfway through the second phase of the space elevator and i dont even have a simple iron factory

[gritty sleet]

In a game about automation, you'll probably want to automate things tbh

[vast salmon]

that might be a good idea yeah

honestly i think the main reason i havent yet is because i keep getting side tracked tbh

[dense violet]

by what? the whole game is automation and exploring is a massive pain if you haven't research the right gear xD

[vast salmon]

automating XD

[dense violet]

but you just said you didn't even have iron things automated?

[vast salmon]

i have stuff automated, i just dont have an iron factory yet

[dense violet]

... iron is the core of it >.>

[vast salmon]

ik ;-;

all i have for it is just like a small smelter and miner hooked up

ive been hand crafting the rest of the iron stuff

[gritty sleet]

But why

[dense violet]

go make iron parts. 1 normal node per basic part does the trick for me

[vast salmon]

i have an iron factory planned out

I was abt to build it but then i needed mk3 belts so i went and build a steel factory for both steel beams and steel pipes, then i kinda forgot and started on the next factory

[spark blade]

hello all, are tractors more efficient than just making belt highways to my factory (just finished tier 4 about to finish phase 2 of space elevator). I hate the super long belt spaghetti

[gritty sleet]

Trains imo

[spark blade]

dont have those yet

[gritty sleet]

Ah I thought that was tier 4

But yeah, highly recommend waiting to get trains before you start building any long-distance logistics.

Tractors are "merely ok", and are a bit finicky.

(Again, imo)

[ivory condor]

I remember when I used to be able to hand craft plastic, that was a fun time

[spark blade]

i want to start automating encased beams, but my concrete is kinda far from my iron at the moment so i was considering tractors to port it over

[dense violet]

definie 'efficient' ?

[cerulean gorge]

i managed to build up the power plants, i just need to modify the water pipes and coal belts :/

[spark blade]

could they be on par with mk3 belts basically

or is it not worth the effort to set them up

[gritty sleet]

It really depends on how far they need to go, what input rate you need, and if you have appropriate fuel for them.

Iirc encased industrial beams need a lot of concrete, so you may or may not find that worthwhile doing

[spark blade]

yea ive neglected concrete up until this point since it wasnt used for much.

ill mess around with them see if i like that better

[dense violet]

any vehicle system can move any amount of stuff by belt if you do it right

[reef basin]

I've been chasing this bug for quite a while. Haven't been able to replicate it yet. If you have a way to replicate it, please send me a DM with steps to replicate, including info like OS and browser version. Thanks!

[dense violet]

the benefit of trucks lets say is that it's pretty simple infrastructure that you don't have to drag all over the map like a belt, and you can add more trucks to the same path

much less of a mess.

[gritty sleet]

I'll let you know if I notice anything noteworthy if it happens again, now that I'm paying attention for it.

[wicked nacelle]

I'm SOOO close. I hit my production goal but I'm slightly power negative 😮 Like.. 10GW

and I'm going to try to NOT fix it by replacing 250 with 100% buildings

it may actually go lower as backlogs fill up production... dunno

Oh, I'm overproducing uranium fuel rods 🙂

[daring stag]

70hours (first save) still not completed phase 3

this game being as long as baldur's gate

[willow dawn]

lol don't worry I am 140 hours in and just completed it

You can rush them but you can play however fast you want

Your game, your pace

[daring stag]

yeah I spent a good time exploring like in subnautica

actually it's kinda weird how this game goes deep on logistics things but also has a real world to explore

in subnautica you just plop a nuclear reactor in one click and it's done

[wicked nacelle]

but there's finite fuel

not.. finite in that you'd ever run out but... technically finite and you have to feed it forever by hand

[daring stag]

yeah havent played in a while but I remember being disappointed that a nuclear reactor was spent so fast

[wicked nacelle]

biofuel and an aquarium was my solution to every power problem 🙂

[willow dawn]

aquarium? haha

[wicked nacelle]

yeah you breed fish and then burn them.

[dense violet]

much longer if you like sandboxes

[willow dawn]

oooh sorry I see now that your are not talking about satisfactory lol

[dense violet]

you need quite a few rods in subnautica, yeah

[wicked nacelle]

base power really becomes irrelevant once you can power your vehicles by just parking them hot places

[gritty sleet]

I wish Subnautica had a peaceful mode. I like the base building part, but not the "getting eaten" part.

[dense violet]

you can mod it

[wicked nacelle]

reapers aren't that hard to kill with a prawn

just takes a long time and a bunch of repairing

[tawdry plank]

I am awake that means we're back to recycling water

see you later pioneers 🫡

[wicked nacelle]

now to go to bed and see if it still works in the morning.

[median tusk]

yo

[main hatch]

does the game get less stressful in late game or mid game

[dense violet]

depends how you approach it
if you treat it like a tutorial and aren't trying to make things fully efficient before you unlock everything? it's pretty chill

[cerulean gorge]

Bonus points if you ignore clipping issues lol

[ashen spruce]

I love setting up bins for space elevator parts

yippee (I am purchasing all of the items because I am too lazy to ship them here )

[vast salmon]

fair enough XD

[ashen spruce]

I purchased 10.000 Copper Powder

[ashen spruce]

To make 50 Pasta (2x bc somersloop)

[vast salmon]

I love having random ass mods installed, one of the ones i have replaces the cat png's in arachnaphobia mode with pictures of the devs and replaces the sounds with voice clips of the devs, it scares me from time to time bc all ill hear suddenly is "SHUT THE F#CK UP!!!"

[vast salmon]

dam

[ashen spruce]

for the low price of 20 tickets 👍

so no biggie

[distant pulsar]

I'm curious to know what parts of it you find stressful

[main hatch]

the amount of stuff to do because anytime i try to get help everything is different so im stressed

[distant pulsar]

I see

The learning curve can be steep in the beginning yeah

[main hatch]

im on steel rn

[distant pulsar]

Everything up until steel and coal generators is like the introduction, there's not really any crazy new things after that, just variations on the same

[willow dawn]

Can you ride the drones like with the trains? Or are they just for transporting resources

[vast salmon]

i think you can get ontop of them but once they start going down you will fall

[willow dawn]

Ahh so no, thats too bad

[ashen spruce]

just more buildings -> more belts -> more spaghetti -> more resources needed

[limpid orchid]

WTF is happening to me, i have fantasies that i turn the local park in my City to an Industriel Center

[vast salmon]

XD

THE FACTORY MUST GROW

[ashen spruce]

You should play more Satisfactory then.

[ashen spruce]

we need map expansion

[tawdry plank]

Me when I see pipes pop out of a building

[vast salmon]

yus

[ashen spruce]

I already used up all verticality

[tawdry plank]

I immediately think of the factory

[vast salmon]

oh no!

i was gonna do that ;-;

[distant pulsar]

I almost changed careers into city planning after I played cities skylines hahaha

[vast salmon]

lol

[distant pulsar]

I found my passion in traffic optimization

[vast salmon]

Now do that... but with conveyers :D

[tawdry plank]

I got a friend that did become a civil engineer after SimCity obsession years ago

[limpid orchid]

XD

[vast salmon]

fair enough

[limpid orchid]

What is the last message you get from the messages that show up every 2 hours?

I only got to 6 hours constantly playing..

But im still new. Have like 35 hours playtime the last 4 days from where i bought the game

[distant pulsar]

Impressive numbers very nice

[arctic spindle]

help when I close my eyes I see conveyer belts

[vast salmon]

12...

if im going to belt something to my base from far away thats making 5/m of said item what tier should i use, i have up to tier 3 (Im only in steel btw)

[distant pulsar]

Just do it based of how much you're producing of that item

If you're producing only 30/min then using a 120/min belt makes no differences

[arctic spindle]

I always use tier 3 belts coz steel is pretty easy to make

[vast salmon]

yeah thats fair, i just dont want to waste recourses

[arctic spindle]

or you could just use a truck

[vast salmon]

i think imma do tier 1 then

[distant pulsar]

later on when you're resource-rich just do the best belt you have access to, saves you from making decisions

[vast salmon]

fair enough

[distant pulsar]

Think Mark Zuckerberg wearing the grey t shirt every day for 10 years but for satisfactory belt speeds

[tawdry plank]

They are randomized so you can get the same message 2 hrs in or 10 hrs in

[vast salmon]

also does any1 actually know what the hawk-faced bean fellas are named?

actually i might do tier 2 because i want to get them here fast

[tawdry plank]

Space Giraffe-Tick-Penguin-
Whale Thing

Literally their name

[vast salmon]

is that actually their name?

[tawdry plank]

Yes.

[vast salmon]

XD

[ashen spruce]

THE BEAN

[vast salmon]

i think im going to stick with hawk-faced beans

[ashen spruce]

We must worship it.

[tawdry plank]

Or known as the bean by everyone else

[ashen spruce]

It's more of a cult than a name.

[vast salmon]

yeah

[tawdry plank]

#screenshots message

[vast salmon]

thats honeslty the craziest name ive seen for a creature

[ashen spruce]

well it's alien

[vast salmon]

yeah thats fair

i have one next to my bace, ive named him larry

[ashen spruce]

We must exploit it.

We must use the Save The Pioneer Arsenal.

#screenshots message
#screenshots message
#screenshots message

[vast salmon]

yes

[arctic spindle]

bitchass keeps getting stuck in my factory

[hasty cradle]

You mean the space Giraffe-tick-penguin-whale thing?

[arctic spindle]

yes

[hasty cradle]

Just attack him

[keen hawk]

trying to clear my drop sites around me but constantly getting cucked by small margins

9/12 fused frames, 32/35 high speed connectors, 35/45 electromagnetic control rods...

[distant pelican]

Hey, I found how to duplicate items in the game who should I contact?

[pastel harness]

@distant pelican Very symmetry I like it

[keen hawk]

cant craft any of them currently, so i need my luck around drop site to give me what i need

[pastel harness]

Report any bugs to questions.satisfactorygame.com, check to see if it's a known issue first though

[distant pelican]

yeah my friend built some complicated one and it didnt enough so I had to step in

[distant pelican]

Okay, let me check there

[pastel harness]

mb it's questions.satisfactorygame.com

[fossil ice]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @frozen cloud

[pastel harness]

seems like there's a command I don't know about lol

[frozen cloud]

! qa

[pastel harness]

ty

Man this 220 refineries for pure copper is gonna be a bit of a pain

Might have to do a dedicated blueprint just for this recipe

[true mulch]

pure copper is the worst of the pure recipes

[pastel harness]

how so

[true mulch]

it has the slowest rate

[pastel harness]

ohh yeah

Yeah I better blueprint this otherwise I'ma spend half an hour just pasting the recipes lol

[true mulch]

oh that's interesting, leached copper makes less ingots per ore but requires producing acid

pure is 2.5 per, leached is 2.44 per

[pastel harness]

Yeah the pure copper is the best rate

wheras leached iron or caterium is best rate

but hey when you want 6/min nuclear pasta you do what you gotta do

[true mulch]

I used to prefer copper/iron alloy but not sure if they still hold up after the 1.0 nerf

[pastel harness]

Yeah they're only 2x now

[true mulch]

not even 💀

well, it's 1 ore per ingot, but half the ores are iron

so it's more of iron transmutation rather than a bonus