satisfactory

[wispy condor]

just use steel pipes for the recipes

[white dawn]

If some other factory needs Steel Beams, it's making more right in that factory

[wicked nacelle]

buffers are a trap - all they do is hide your problems

[past steeple]

No, they allow you to have extra of all your resources

[wicked nacelle]

until you've beaten the game you can't build a fully built out factory

[lost wagon]

where can I find some good rail track blueprints

[wicked nacelle]

counts don't matter in this game only rates

[white dawn]

But yes, you're right -- if you've intentionally set up your factories so that its output needs might change over time, then merely sinking overflow from that factory might not be a good fit for coupon generation for you

[cedar portal]

As I move through the various tiers, then later change what I want to make to sink, I adjust things. I have a ton of local factories so changing production is pretty easy, just make a new factory and use trains to grab what I need frome xisting things. It all balances out once you shut one section off and bring up another.

[past steeple]

But you said plans change, so the rates change. No reason not to have a backup plan

[wicked nacelle]

coupon generation of low tier stuff is tiny anyhow. What you're missing out on is very small. Better to just double sloop some animal parts

[burnt ferry]

you seem to intentionally misunderstand things here.... since youre not making any point, theres nothing left to debate

[white dawn]

Shutting down factories (or sections of factories) is also something I've literally never done. :)

[dense violet]

essentially you'll likely never need to use a prog splitter in your life unless you're doing quite fancy things

[drifting fern]

yea, thats what i kinda thought

[cedar portal]

You just tear stuff down and rebuild then?

[wicked nacelle]

rates do change. And you can build a factory that can support that to a certain extent without having to go back and touch it -- that's the great part

[prisma yoke]

you can sloop those??? i never thought of that lol thats smart

[wicked nacelle]

you can double sloop them -- it's a two step process and you can sloop each step -- so you're 4x'ing it

[past steeple]

You also never have to go back and touch it if you sink the overflow, along with extra tickets

[hard ivy]

you can sloop every production machine except packagers

[dense violet]

if you're doing specific fancy things though? incredibly useful xD

[drifting fern]

yeah, i just meant for me

[stiff ibex]

cant sloop uranium waste from nuclear plants either 🤓

[wicked nacelle]

You do if it can support more production to build what you want but instead it's sinking stuff that you don't want with the raw resources. anyhow, people just trying to misunderstand this

[hard ivy]

those are not production machines

[drifting fern]

i see the usefullness if you make fancy stuff, im just too adhd brained to make fancy things

[stiff ibex]

not categorically, but they do produce

[dense violet]

I do the fancy sushi belts because of my adhd brain xD

[drifting fern]

ye

[lost wagon]

either my internet route is terrible with the interactive map website today or something is happening with it

[drifting fern]

i probably will move on to that after i have gotten all achievements

[white dawn]

No, I just leave the factory exactly as it's going

[wicked nacelle]

works for me -- and most of the cool stuff it does all is in javascript on your computer, anyhow. None of the fancy stuff happens server side

[white dawn]

I do admit that my build philosophy hews quite closely to "Independency." Which, again: each factory basically only outputs to personal storage. There's no point in the game where I'm not gonna want, like, 30/min Steel Beams going to my personal build-gun storage

If some other factory needs Steel Beams for something, more steel beams are made right there. And that factory only ever outputs to my personal storage, etc.

[wicked nacelle]

you make plastic and rubber on site?

[white dawn]

So, like, needs don't change at all in that system

[wicked nacelle]

and ship the oil?

[hard ivy]

same. only independency

[hard ivy]

you make a satellite that makes plastic and rubber only for that specific factory

[white dawn]

Nah, I do set up specific exports for stuff like oil/aluminum, etc, but those are basically just geographically distributed factories

I've got a set of machines specifically providing the plastic as a source for Resource X

[cedar portal]

You never change anything once it's built? You plan the entire thing out in advance? I'm always changing reecipies when I expand and need more of something or want to optmize or get more out of a node.

[white dawn]

I don't just throw it all into a big bin and then try to divvy it up later; I'd rather just have the dedicated lines

[stiff ibex]

is there no voice chats here?

or is it in a role or something

[wicked nacelle]

no

[white dawn]

No, I plan it out one resource at a time, for personal storage. If I want 20/min of Resource X to my personal storage, I build out that factory and then it's done.

[hard ivy]

i only change stuff if I planned to change it. like upgrade belts from mk3 to mk4 in my steel factory because I planned it with mk4 in mind

[white dawn]

When some other factory needs Resource X, then more of that resource is produced inside the new factory (and, indeed, I may use a different recipe then, etc)

So like across my whole savegame by the end of the game, I'm probably making rotors in dozens of factories

I had three separate HMF factories on my 1.0 playthrough, etc. (And about six or seven aluminum production sites)

[cedar portal]

When sommersloops were added I changed a bunch of stuff because now I could easily double output of bottleneck items.

[naive palm]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[white dawn]

All just built specifically to support an "end" factory which was just "Produce x/min to personal storage of resource Y"

[wispy condor]

X)

[hard ivy]

like this is my advanced aluminium factory:
https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=PhIpBIWNNNmkLClYlfBT

it's all going in one location (swamp) and all output is exclusively for me

[tender raft]

since 1.1 release does factorytick still slow down belts in huge save files, quit the game in 1.0 cuz it ruined a bunch of my factories wondering if its fixed yet

[white dawn]

Basically I just tend to follow this, which probably explains it better than I am: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency IMO it's far easier and simpler than most other strategies; my first few playthroughs of the game were definitely not done like that, and were closer to the kinds of things you're doing. :)

I don't always follow that religiously, but it's the general plan

[wicked nacelle]

but then you're just pre-doing the work to split off the natural resources to go to each location... at which point you don't have a bunch of extra stuff to sink

unless you're just massively underutilizing the world, of course. Then you can just inefficiently allocate raw materials

[hard ivy]

all storage containers have an overflow before them...

I have plenty to sink

[stiff ibex]

who has the biggest factory/most hours in satisfactory

[wicked nacelle]

who cares

[stiff ibex]

me?

[wicked nacelle]

what are you going to do with that information if it even existed? Do you want a youtuber?

[lost wagon]

ah, then might be just the blueprint part of the website that is slow

[cedar portal]

I suppose the difference is I don't restart, I am playing the same save I began when the game first came out. So lots and lots of rebuilding, especially when they change recipies 😄

[stiff ibex]

go look for their base or what they did? whats wrong with that lmao

[cedar portal]

Ahh, I miss beacons...

[wicked nacelle]

so you want someone who shared a large base?

[shy mulch]

SCIM thinks my capacity is NaN MW

[wicked nacelle]

it's all pretty instantaneous for me right now... just FYI

[white dawn]

I'm sinking the excess of literally every factory in the save; that's plenty. I finished my 1.0 save with 2 golden nuts and was approaching a third

[stiff ibex]

ive seen large bases, just curious what the current magnum opus is

[white dawn]

Ah, I've yet to carry a save from update to update. :)

[hard ivy]

same

well, except U6Ex to U6

[lost wagon]

probably some routing issue them, sometimes it works fine sometimes it doesn't

[wispy condor]

Me too

[hard ivy]

I don't. Markers are just better

[wispy condor]

Idk , personally i have 269 mb save file ( just convert the 275... Kb in mb ) and 2000 hours Inside my save

[wispy condor]

Beacons >>> rotors for the nuclear fuel rods Kappa

[stiff ibex]

do you have a yt channel or something i can see?

[leaden turret]

I think blink 182 have a song that mentions that

[cedar portal]

I thought I had a lot with my 1100 hour save. When did you start that one?

[wispy condor]

Almost 4 years ago ( 2 november 2021 )

[cedar portal]

Impressive, mines been going for 6 years now.

I've had to fix some huge things, like when they added liquids and all my oil pumps had belts coming out of the output pipes 😄

[frail sleet]

what are you feeding that thing

[wispy condor]

Actually , i have some screenshots and a twitch but i am not on my pc right now
And a youtube but the save tour is not started ( i wait to break the engine or to finish my builds )

[naive palm]

Was oil an item back in the day?

[wispy condor]

I overmaxed the numbers of miners that we Can have

[stiff ibex]

oh i see

[hard ivy]

packaged oil was just oil and pipes didn't exist

[naive palm]

fascinating. I must have joined after that.

[steady hemlock]

how was oil moved?

[cedar portal]

Yes, oil came out packaged in oil drums.

[hard ivy]

extractor had a belt output

[steady hemlock]

ahhh.

[wispy condor]

It was before update 3

[steady hemlock]

interesting, very

[cedar portal]

I liked to think that when the oil was used, the cans were compressed flat and sent back on the underside of the belt

[wicked nacelle]

That would be awesome

Like those collapsible laundry baskets or something.

[hard ivy]

actually, why aren't belts bi-di?

[jagged lark]

how to acces the 3 quartz nodes in top left in the rocky dessert?

[hard ivy]

cave

[jagged lark]

where entrance

[hard ivy]

west, northwest, northeast, east

east probably easiest to find

near the coal nodes near water

[jagged lark]

is there a blue snail at the entrance by any chance

[steady hemlock]

ive played 70 hours of satifactory this week, inc. sleep and school. i got no life xD

[finite garnet]

yes

[steady hemlock]

this game stole it

[jagged lark]

oh fr?

i jus build a factory exactly over the entrance

[cedar portal]

I remember when berries and nuts didn't respawn. They didn't want to enable that for the longest time.

[steady hemlock]

how would you heal early game then?

[hard ivy]

exploration and inhalers

[cedar portal]

Yeeah, they wanted you to explore 🙂

[steady hemlock]

sometimes thats all i do even without reason

find new nice places :)

and im so glad you can bunny hop, its much faster than sprinting

[hard ivy]

I'm challenging myself this playthrough to collect everything collectible

[steady hemlock]

what number is this?

[leaden turret]

crippling social anxiety?

[hard ivy]

number what?

[steady hemlock]

play though. like your 1st? or 2nd?

[hard ivy]

yes, actually. but idk how that's related

[hard ivy]

oh, like 10th

[leaden turret]

collectible 😛

[steady hemlock]

im not letting myself restart

i just replace and optimize

like to learn :)

[tall plover]

Why is there a random goal of 50 smart plating after ive completed the game?

and where do i submit them

[cedar portal]

This is what happens when you play through map updates 😄
#screenshots message

[steady hemlock]

how often is a map update? im rly nervouse now

[cedar portal]

I think they aree done now

[hard ivy]

it was last changed in 1.0

unlikely to ever change agian tbh

[wicked nacelle]

Just a bug. You can delete the elevator if you want but I just deal with it because it’s a great way to know where you are to look for it

[fallow hollow]

What weapon should i use for collecting mercer spheres before oil? ive only used xeno basher and im wondering if theres an easier way to take things out

[wicked nacelle]

Rod gun is available right? Bolt gun?

Whatever it’s called. I rush oil so I never build it

You have to research it in the mam

!wikisearch rebar fun

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=rebar

[fluid sapphire]

can i reliably get 600 out of an oil node if i split it literally right after the extractor?

[hard ivy]

you can even if you don't split it

[peak wasp]

oil extractor mark 2 and mk 2 pipes get u 600 out of it

[hard ivy]

there's no mk2 extractor

[fluid sapphire]

ah, ok, well i heard some advice like that some time ago, i already split them, i guess it will just not make a difference then

i have struggled before with actually getting 600 out of them, but i did also have badly designed systems

much better this time around

[latent prawn]

yeah, you can even pipe it a distance (even change altitude) before splitting. i find after the split, dropping down to mk1 pipes helps

[fluid sapphire]

its gonna go a few hundred meters down hill

[latent prawn]

what causes the slosh in mk2 pipes is the consumers consuming odd quantities of the pipe's volume on different cycles. when that happens, fluid has a choice to flow backward and often will

[fluid sapphire]

im hoping to avoid that by having it all go downhill

and closing my loops

[willow dawn]

Ok time for bed, I will finish my supercomputer factory tomorrow

[latent prawn]

that helps as well, but really you won't see slosh in the feeding mk2 pipe, it only happens where consumers consume

[willow dawn]

I am really not sharp anymore

[fluid sapphire]

i have found that ever since i started placing machine blocks back-to-back with inputs facing each other and connecting the fluid inputs at the end of the block, i have had zero problems with flow for all my refineries

ahh, well its gonna be a very simple system, should be OK as long as the inputs come in nice, im cooking nitro rocket fuel

cant wait to build 1152 generators

[latent prawn]

what i do when i have a pure oil node to process, is run an mk2 pipe to where my factory is, split it into 2 mk1 pipes and process the oil into hor with oc'd refineries to mimize the possibility of slosh

[wicked nacelle]

Is it helpful to power them all on instantaneously when flooded?

[tawdry plank]

i wish i could go to bed but im still trying to figure out the basic layout for the refineries for my aluminum factory

[lost wagon]

something is weird and I don't know what, my "max consumption" if all my factories turned on at same time was 5.6GW, after I changed some things in the train station and checked again it's 4.5GW now, not sure if I broke the powerline of something and didn't notice, because everything looks fine

[tawdry plank]

but at the scale i wanna do it at no layout makes sense...

[wicked nacelle]

If you’re using default recipe it’s just 2 alumina to 1 scrap and all the numbers work out great all the way to fully overclocked

[fluid sapphire]

i guess i can easily replace my mk2s with mk1s if i really need to

[latent prawn]

i've never experimented much with that - just flooding the pipes before turning stuff on is sufficient in my experience

[tawdry plank]

i am using the sloppy alumina + electrode scrap but i am planning to do all bauxite in the one factory

[hard ivy]

I don't prefill my pipes, ever, and it works just fine

[tawdry plank]

and the refineries dont line up 1 to 1...

[wicked nacelle]

Yeah unless you tear stuff down it won’t fall like that unless you split a circuit off

[latent prawn]

the real key is rule #1 of pipes: keep pipe manifolds small and simple

[tawdry plank]

i put it in math channel already

[fluid sapphire]

same, so far they just pre fill themselves

i just turn on the entire system and wait

eventually it cooks perfectly fine

[wicked nacelle]

How much oil is that?

[tawdry plank]

it's just how do i connect 60 alumina refineries to 80 scrap refineries

[tawdry plank]

the oil is the easy part it's 1200 for all the petroleum coke

[wicked nacelle]

Electrode takes oil right? How much oil does it take to do that. Really. Wow

[tawdry plank]

so the 3 oil nodes overclocked

[willow dawn]

Tomorrow is another day. Maybe you will get inspired while you sleep 😉

[tawdry plank]

the math checks out it's just how do i pipe the aluminum part

the oil part is done all the petroleum coke is made

it's just 40 heavy oil residue refineries into another 40 for petroleum coke

[fluid sapphire]

yeah, i did super long pipe manifolds when i had my turbofuel plant before nuking everything on my map, it didnt work well at all, but part of that was definitely my mess of merging pipes and using valves and stuff everywhere

its not just manifolds

the entire system needs to be simple is what i have learned

no unnecessary splits or merges if it can be avoided

[lost wagon]

no way to have a breakdown of power usage, right?

[wicked nacelle]

SCIM might?

[lost wagon]

let me see

[latent prawn]

yeah, my mindset is that if you give pipes less opportunity to backflow, the more stable they end up being

[hard ivy]

it has a breakdown of power production, idk about consumption

[wicked nacelle]

Can you click/hover poles? He just wants to find if he split his grid

[prisma yoke]

honestly i dont like using vehicles simply because they destroy foliage. it feels wasteful and it looks bad in my opinion

i mean like the foliage is pretty

[fluid sapphire]

is train a vehicle

[prisma yoke]

i mean yes but i meant vehicles like the explorer or trucks

[fluid sapphire]

yeah i just set up long conveyors rather than trucks, and if its too long distance for conveyors i use trains, i cant be bothered to set up fuel for trucks and building roads and whatnot, just too much work

trucks seem cool to me on paper but in practice is just eeeehhhh

[wicked nacelle]

Even if trucks were electric and could recharge at their stops or something I still wouldn’t use them. Too limited and trains come soon enough.

[hard ivy]

imo, they're just decorations

[sullen gull]

Have drones deliver the truck fuel 😏

[wicked nacelle]

Have trucks deliver drone fuel

[fluid sapphire]

genius

[prisma yoke]

trucks fit an odd niche in my opinion in that they are arguably quicker and cheaper to set up than conveyors but also just a pain in the as⁠s and they feel unreliable

[wicked nacelle]

You must drag belts REALLY slowly

[fluid sapphire]

i was actually considering making some packaged fuel somewhere and shipping it around, but someone told me earlier that 180 rocket fuel can feed 20-30 drones so why bother

[prisma yoke]

but like if i set up a temporary outpost to produce quartz products during early phase 2 or something then sometimes ill set up a truck line to bring them home

[wicked nacelle]

That’s exactly why. I have a rocket fuel drone port and it supplies to “getter drones”
From each place I have a drone fleet operate

[sullen gull]

The unreliability comes from the recordings. May take a couple test runs before one gets a route they're satisfied with.

[wicked nacelle]

My drones use about 2 rocket fuel a minute each. 3 for long trips where they spend less % time docking (which doesn’t burn fuel)

[prisma forge]

#screenshots message

I am just finishing setting up the power supply for my mega rocket fuel powerplant...

[fluid sapphire]

well, sure i will probably end up doing it anyway

[sullen gull]

Docking/undocking is always 102 seconds iirc

[prisma yoke]

i was gonna make an argument about how trucks could be faster to set up if you already have a nearby fuel source and whatnot but honestly youre right lol. i always overthink my belts because i want them to look good

[wicked nacelle]

Also often drones sit idle as they can oversupply their destination so they just sit until they empty. So you can really run many many more drones than just 30-40

[fluid sapphire]

its a good start

[wicked nacelle]

But it doesn’t burn fuel. Fuel
Burn is only distance between drone ports (I’m pretty sure)

[prisma forge]

This powerplant will produce a total of 133k MW of energy once I get all the generators running\

[wicked nacelle]

For example a drone can circle above a blocked port forever and use zero fuel

[sullen gull]

Ahh, I understand what you were referring to now. And yes, I believe so. Iirc, they dont use fuel if they have to circle and wait to dock either. But, not 100% on that last bit.

Ahh, well, I stand correct then lol

[fluid sapphire]

thats a lot of power, i thought about making basically the same amount of power but figured if i am doing it anyway i might as well do it so i can double my power just by upgrading miners and belts when unlock them

[hard ivy]

1000 MW is called a GW

[prisma yoke]

kilo-megawatts

[wicked nacelle]

Kilokilokilowatt

[prisma forge]

I wanna divide the fuel production, fuel generators and the main grid. Gotta figure that one out now.

Like I want the powerplant to be able to run independently from the main grid in case of a global catastrophe

[wicked nacelle]

That stops working well once you go to rocket fuel and have to pull fuel ingredients from far away. My solution is to just keep 30m worth of charged power storage disconnected and only connect it if my power won’t restart

[fluid sapphire]

build some "power storage"

yes

[wicked nacelle]

You can put it on a smart switch and then engage it from anywhere on the map by just dropping another smart switch where you are

[prisma forge]

that's in my plans already. I wanna build a power storage as a backup for the powerplant itself and another set for the main grid

I know it's unecessary but I wanna do it anyways cuz it'll look cool XD

[fluid sapphire]

then im not sure what kind of catastrophe you are anticipating really

[prisma forge]

"catastrophe"

[fluid sapphire]

lol me with most things i build

[prisma forge]

nothing will really happen, just roleplay

[wicked nacelle]

But trying to get all the ingredients sources on the power only power grid gets really annoying. Double extra especially once you get to nuclear. It’s a good thought but ultimately not worth it IMO

[sullen gull]

Drunkin belt upgrading 😏

[prisma forge]

Yup already on it

[wicked nacelle]

And if you involve trains it’s all
over since usually people use the train network to distribute power through the station power connectors.

[prisma forge]

everything related to this powerplant will have its own grid, and the whole thing will be connected to the main grid through a single power switch

[tawdry plank]

just as i wanted to save my power grid shut off 💀

i reached the limit for my power damnit

[sullen gull]

Whoops

[stiff ibex]

can someone explain how people clip production machines into each other? like the recent post in screenshots

[tawdry plank]

That is an issue for tomorrow me

[sullen gull]

Mods

[tawdry plank]

nudge them together

[prisma forge]

nudge. Press H and nudge.

[tawdry plank]

vertical nudging my beloved

[stiff ibex]

nudging still doesnt clip the hitboxes together though

[sullen gull]

Mods

[stiff ibex]

is that really it

lol

[tawdry plank]

yeah prob infinitenudging mod that one allows some ridiculous clipping

[sullen gull]

To be able to ignore collisions, yes afaik

[tawdry plank]

but for clipping a bit you can nudge normally

[wicked nacelle]

You can nudge through yellow but not red. Or you can’t place with the red

[sullen gull]

Not with machines and some other buildings

[tawdry plank]

eh you can clip the edges like those metal rails together

just not the main part of the building

[wicked nacelle]

But if you want a building on foundation but there is a belt in the way and it won’t place flat you can nudge it from somewhere else into place

[wicked nacelle]

Make sure you color code your power power infrastructure infrastructure

[prisma forge]

wdym

[ivory carbon]

hi i am trying to just a converyor belt to something at a 90 degree angle and i saw someone hold down something and it auto created a turn how do i do this?

[wicked nacelle]

you'll be criss crossing your "full grid" and your "power infrastructure grid" most likely so I suggest using colors to differentiate them so you know at a glance which is which later on when you want to use power from one

[wicked nacelle]

are you sure they weren't just in "straight mode"?

[tall plover]

Is there a mod that highlights the nearest Mercier Sphere / gives directions towards it or do i just have to follow a map?

[ivory carbon]

yh i figured it out

[prisma forge]

use a detector

object scanner*

[wicked nacelle]

If you're going to "cheat" just uplaod your map to SCIM and it will show you were all the ones you haven't gotten yet are

[tall plover]

still takes a long time and doesnt show me if its in a cave, below or above me etc

[prisma forge]

in that case use the interactive map website

[wicked nacelle]

it does tell you if it's above or below -- by going up/down and checking the strength

[prisma forge]

you can toggle caves there

[tall plover]

i guess thats true yes

[wicked nacelle]

do you know how to upload your save to scim?

[tall plover]

i just found it

[wicked nacelle]

you click the box in the top right corner and then select your save file -- oh ok

[tall plover]

How do i filter for caves?

[wicked nacelle]

map layers tab -- then turn on caves

[prisma forge]

mess around with the configurations

explore the website

[spare fable]

can anyone play rn

[prisma forge]

I am playing rn

[spare fable]

alr

i need someone to teach me the ways

[past steeple]

Out of curiousity, does anyone know what the Lead Pioneer role signifies? Is it like the devs, community leaders, etc?

[prisma forge]

are you having difficulty with something rn? Any questions maybe?

[tall plover]

I cant find it in options

[wicked nacelle]

I dmd you an image

[spare fable]

nah i just rlly wanna play with someone i know the basics already

[tall plover]

aaah

thank you, i thought its in the options

[past steeple]

Have you posted it in the looking for group channel?

[prisma forge]

well I could but I gotta go read the bible in half an hour. Unless if you wanna wait an hour.

[wicked nacelle]

probably just don't waste your time with that and just play satisfactory instead

[prisma forge]

that's not a waste of time lol

[wicked nacelle]

at least playing the game accomplishes something

[past steeple]

Xaxxon, you may be treading on thin ice, just a forewarning

[prisma forge]

in a bunch of pixels yeah, but reading the bible helps my spirit

anyways, this isn't the place and time to discuss this

[spare fable]

i can wait

[prisma forge]

He's right. Look at literally the first rule.

[wicked nacelle]

Then don't bring up religion if you don't want it discussed.

[spare fable]

bro

[prisma forge]

bruh I literally only said I was gonna read the bible wtf

[spare fable]

just leave

[past steeple]

Ignore them, they have been pot-stirring all day

[spare fable]

just ban him

[past steeple]

Moving on is the best course of action. If it happens again, a ticket can always be opened

[prisma forge]

yup

I also have to finish setting up my mega rocket fuel powerplant lol

[drowsy rock]

i finally got my computer factory to work 💔

[past steeple]

Why the broken heart?

[prisma forge]

noice

[drowsy rock]

the first one i made was so bad

[past steeple]

Oh lol

[drowsy rock]

and it took so long

[prisma forge]

it took me like 50+ hours to set up my last megafactory

[drowsy rock]

i hopped on at like 5 pm and its 830 😭

[past steeple]

Welcome to Satisfactory

[wicked nacelle]

am or pm?

[past steeple]

That is a hilarious but completely fair question to ask

[drowsy rock]

pm

[wicked nacelle]

question for everyone -- what's the thing that you probably should have known long long ago but just learned recently. I just learned that bacon doesn't respawn. I've marked spots on my map to go back to to harvest mushrooms again... yeah they don't work 😦

[wicked nacelle]

I figured, but was joking that you could have spent 15.5 hours playing 😉

[drowsy rock]

one time i was playing satisfactory for 12 hours straight lol

i stopped at like 5 am

[prisma forge]

those are rookie numbers

[tall plover]

rhye i got a question for you

[prisma forge]

yea?

[drowsy rock]

not really 12 i meant but i was on till 8 am to 5 am lol

[tall plover]

what the hell are you doin using 30 GW power at stage 4

I finished with a production of 22 GW

[prisma forge]

megafactories consume a lot

[drowsy rock]

goated factory im already at 80 computers 🔥

[stray loom]

Some people like building big factories in their factory building game

[past steeple]

I learned (through someone else's mistake, not mine thankfully) that you can waste a hard drive if you get too many before enough recipes are unlocked

[wicked nacelle]

it should tell you that you can't research anything right now -- but that may be a more modern change

[past steeple]

Factories?!?! In a factory building game?!?! Unheard of

[prisma forge]

I thought you couldn't sink hard drives

[past steeple]

You can't, but you can run out of recipes to learn from them for your current tier

[tall plover]

chill, i was just asking where the power consumption comes from

[prisma forge]

oh yeah I know about that one

[tall plover]

either energy shards or factories

[wicked nacelle]

you can also get that if you have a lot of unselected researched hard drives in your library -- you have to pick one (two?) before you can research another hard drive if your pool is exhausted

[past steeple]

Oh, interesting. Did not know that, but it makes sense

[prisma forge]

here's another one regarding hard drives: The first set of alts is defined when you start scanning them. But the second one is always random. So if you don't get the recipe you want, you can save the game, rescan, load if you didn't get the recipe. Repeat until you get it.

[stray loom]

Honestly unless you get the perfect hard drive (Charcoal and Biocoal) just flip a coin if you don't have a preference either way and pick something

[wicked nacelle]

if you pick one then you can get the other on a subsequent hard drive. If you don't pick you block them both out

[ivory carbon]

guys does just exiting to main menu autosave or do i have to manually save it

[wicked nacelle]

must save if you didn't you'll have to reload the last autosave. I have them set for 5 minutes personally

[stray loom]

Sure but you'll get them all in the end if you collect all the drives so just pick something when it comes up and keep it moving imo

[wicked nacelle]

but you can get the good stuff SOONER if you don't. and when matters

[willow glen]

has anyone consulted FICSIT on their lighting power usage? A 2MW light bulb would fry most humans eyes even while shut

[stray loom]

So alternate more between factory building and exploring. I've never found it to be an issue getting the recipes I want in a timely manner

So many people get sucked into building and don't explore often enough

[past steeple]

ADA would call that an unfortunate limitation with working with humans

[hard ivy]

The factory I'm currently building consumes more than that lol
Single factory, producing 5 items
I'm not even past phase 4 yet

[tall plover]

sounds like alot of energy shards

[hard ivy]

Aside from miners, 0

[tall plover]

what are you building

[past steeple]

I did the opposite. My factory was a complete mess, but I got damn near every hard drive, half the slugs, and most of the mercer spheres by phase 4

Now, I must make things pretty

[hard ivy]

Advanced aluminium parts
~15/min each

[tall plover]

wait what

specify

[hard ivy]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=TaehWPTger7xQBJFa9uX

[tall plover]

ah turbo motor

yea ngl i crammed these into a small space and called it a day

ngl its a mess now but it used to be organized

[hard ivy]

I'm going for way more than just completion, so I can't afford to half-ass stuff

[past steeple]

Another thing to add to this list: I learned you can hold down e to suction up leaves instead of tapping e for each bush

[willow glen]

And now that I’ve finished phase 5 my final factory uses 70GW, almost entirely power sharded, makes the final project parts around 5/min (way overkill)

[tall plover]

well it was my first playthrough so i didnt know the quantities i need

[willow glen]

next steps are to finish the walls and expand ||singularity cells so I can set up portal || transportation to all my neat spots

I want a save that I come back to tour and am not immediately confused by

[stray loom]

That's why I just started a new save now. I got burned out on my old 1.0 save and trying to go back and figure out what I was working on was just not happening because I was in the middle of several projects and don't remember what the specs were

[woeful elbow]

is there any way to view the cons / max cons of just a part of the grid? i kind of assumed that the A / B menus on power switches would show the power draw on each side of the switch, or the overall draw compared to the draw on just the B side, but instead the A and B graphs are just the same... I am trying to figure out why cons != max cons but don't know how to isolate it

[wicked nacelle]

what tier are you at? yeah, you can't achieve that I don't think because of ... do you have particle accelerators (or beyond)?

[woeful elbow]

tier 7

or maybe 6

i finished trains, but need to do t3 or project assembly

[wicked nacelle]

oh, no then. Do you really have so many machines at this point that you can't just go look at them all for yellow lights?

[woeful elbow]

i have quite a few, but i just couldn't fine any yellow lights

when is it unlocked?

[fathom shuttle]

Can you buys neural quantum processors from the shop?

[wicked nacelle]

You don't. but later some buildings have variable power use and I don't think max cons can ever match current cons once you have them.

[dense violet]

Sometimes messing with clocking and putting machines on the grid has a graph bug with what it’s reporting. Save and reload

[prisma yoke]

I have a bunch of belts with items that merge together onto one main belt. im using a smart splitter on said belt to send items to my dimensional depot uploader and then send overflow to the awesome sink, but the uploader gets clogged when it recieves an item that is already full in the depot. is there any way to fix this without having to use smart splitters on each item belt before they are all merged together?

[tawdry plank]

i was planning to sleep but instead i dragged 4 conveyor line highway (for petroleum coke) to my aluminum factory (it will be 4 mk6 lines when i get the belts)

[woeful elbow]

oh i see, it would be nice in the future if switches worked like that, because it is probably helpful information to know how much power one section of your grid draws. i'm not sure what the point of the a/b graph is then...

[tawdry plank]

goodnight now the game is wayy too addictive

[fathom shuttle]

How much do they cost?

[wicked nacelle]

I think it was 10c/stack

[stray loom]

Don't cram multiple items into one uploader. Use one uploader per item

[fathom shuttle]

Hm not too bad

[wicked nacelle]

all in the wiki 🙂 https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/AWESOME_Shop

[fathom shuttle]

I’ll buy 4 stacks to unlock the milestone and build a couple here and there

[prisma yoke]

dam⁠n. alright then

[woeful elbow]

i’ve tried it’s consistently like this. it’s significant as well 4k vs 6k (9k production)

could it be including battery?

or is the power draw on sinks only active when sinking?

[wicked nacelle]

I'm seeing some weird stuff... some places only when sinking but other things say there's a bug if you get far enough away from it the behavior changes

try making a tiny power grid and finding out for us 🙂

[noble topaz]

how many coal generators can max out one (mk 1) miner, and one water extractor?

[woeful elbow]

either way i doubt i have 100 sinks

[wicked nacelle]

2.xxx

[woeful elbow]

i'll test quickly though

[noble topaz]

with power shards

[wicked nacelle]

yes sink takes power when not sinking --- no it doesn't that was just my hoverpack

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1395937969495347260/image.png?ex=687c440b&is=687af28b&hm=06c9388c2be2f3adf41c9434f3235b6febd8f4002d2801d6351ccea22203576f&

oh wait - that's my hoverpack

[tall plover]

What can you even get out of geysers?

[wicked nacelle]

small amounts of power

[tall plover]

ah ok

[woeful elbow]

it does draw power, exactly 0.1MW... but if it sinks at all it draws power, as low as 20 / s

[wicked nacelle]

careful you don't measure while wearing your hoverpack.

[woeful elbow]

tier 6

[wicked nacelle]

wiki says it only takes 30... https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/AWESOME_Sink

[stray loom]

Like 7GW average if you tap all the geysers on the map. I wish geothermal was better but by the time you can really build them it's such a small amount of power compared to other more easily scalable sources that it's almost not worth doing at all

[tall plover]

better than nothing

[fathom shuttle]

It’s not worth it lol

[tall plover]

7 GW would half of my power needs

[fathom shuttle]

Barely more than a fully overclocked nuclear reactor

[wicked nacelle]

I think maybe the lowest power consumption number it can show is 0.1MW so if it's more than 0 it shows 0.1

[stray loom]

That's 31 seperate generators spread all around the entire map btw

[woeful elbow]

it still does draw something then

[wicked nacelle]

looking at my power storage's graph, it says "max cons 30MW, consum. 0.1MW" not sure what the 0.1 is.

[fathom shuttle]

How do you have a 1TW max consumption

[wicked nacelle]

I have a lot of machines

I had a 1tw production but shut down my power augmenter to get the sloops

[fathom shuttle]

I assume you went over the object limit already lol

[wicked nacelle]

my game does crash sometimes... I don't really care why. I just reload it

I'm going for 240M sink points/m and I'm getting close just have to tidy up some sloppy decisions that were fine when I made them

I'm going to disable all my ficsonium processing here in a minute but I built up a plutonium waste backlog I have to burn through first

[fathom shuttle]

90/min BWD

Crazy lol

[wicked nacelle]

I have some other stuff, but yes. I have 16 slooped BWD manufacturers -- but they're not fully fed yet. I have to get like... 2.5-3 more manu's worth of inputs

[willow glen]

If you were over the object limit the game would crash within 30 minutes if not instantly on load, but it’s an easy fix if you run into that.

[wicked nacelle]

yeah, my factory is not anywhere near "all resources on the map". but I've had to be more efficient with aluminum and nitrogen and distribute it more precisely because there aren't any untapped nodes

[willow glen]

There’s a lot of variables but it’s around 1/4th of the map usage I needed to patch my game. Got to 1/2 map before the FPS was just too low to be fun anymore.

[wicked nacelle]

I had that problem on my older cpu. then got 5700x3d and that helped a ton and then got 9800x3d and now it's plenty snappy

[willow glen]

ya my rig is nowhere near as powerful as yours, you could def get farther

[wicked nacelle]

and of course they did a lot of good stuff in the 1.0 in terms of how they used lightweight UE objects vs heavyweight ones where they weren't using the features of heavyweight objects

and they also are simulating multiple belt bits as single parts now too, I guess

[willow glen]

ya it’s definitely better optimized, loading the u8 save where I gave up due to FPS it’s actually tolerable now (but I still don’t care to fix it up, broken nodes and all)

[wicked nacelle]

I did that on an end game save.. it only took maybe 2-3 hours... but I can see just saying f-it, too 🙂

[fathom shuttle]

You can run out nitrogen pretty quick somehow

[willow glen]

my main barrier is getting dimensional depot set up, since I intentionally abandoned Mercer spheres before 1.0 since they weren’t able to be trashed or used

[fathom shuttle]

I’m using all the nitrogen near blue crater and I’m not doing anything crazy

[wicked nacelle]

You def have to start being conscious about how much you allocate from which nodes and then start combining multiple partially used nodes to fill later requirements

[fathom shuttle]

It sucks but it’ll only take 4 hours to gather 150+

More than you’ll ever need

[willow glen]

after a certain point the only option is to start training (or belt highwaying) raw resources, not very efficient but there’s only so many good sulfur-coal-oil spots, its spread out after that

[trim vine]

My brother would like you to rate his Nuclear set up

@ivory yacht

#screenshots message

[wicked nacelle]

42/37 spaghetti points

37 in a row 🙂

I was just lfying around and was like "WTF IS THAT???"-- that's where I was trying to see how long it would take to make a 1000 car train. answer was too long. I stopped at 100

[fathom shuttle]

Bro really thinks he is good enough that he needs to worry about object limit 💀

[trim vine]

Eyy chillllllll

[wicked nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1395948033690308628/image.png?ex=687c4d6a&is=687afbea&hm=edb5b9b02978d4076055fc9deea7c9dfc4812eeb6a5c20673ae4020220dffa93& 138 cars on one engine

max speed is 91kmw because it starts to turn and loses some speed

[trim vine]

#screenshots message

@wicked nacelle @fathom shuttle

Really makes the knees sweat

[wicked nacelle]

mom's spaghetti

[past steeple]

I never knew ADA got mad at you if you research things too quickly and don't let her talk

[wicked nacelle]

200 cars max speed is 82kmh

[wicked nacelle]

"I appreciate your efficiency but that was rude!"

[past steeple]

Essentially, ya. She says "I see I was talking too slow, let me speed it up for you" or something along those lines, then you get muffled sped up garbage lol

[wicked nacelle]

I haven't heard that one.-- apparently there are multiple of them

[past steeple]

I did start a new world, this time from the Northern Forest. Hoping to build massive smelters near the resources, then ship them off to the desert or something for processing

Maybe build a giant base off a cliff, still have not decided

[sharp rivet]

why did i buy on epic game store

[past steeple]

Feels super weird not having a jetpack

I don't think it matters where you buy, no?

[wicked nacelle]

shipping ore is more stack efficient if you're going to use pure recipes

[wicked nacelle]

its' fine. and for multiplayer even if you buy on steam you still do an epic game session for crossplay

[past steeple]

Thats fair. I will absolutely use the pure recipes, they are too effiecient not to.

[sharp rivet]

didnt work last time

steam to epic worked. but other steam users couldnt join and stuff

[wicked nacelle]

weird. You just have the host (on a steam version) connect their epic account and then tell the game to start an epic session and it should work for everyone

the steam users have to link their epic account too in steam

[sharp rivet]

what if they dont have epic

[wicked nacelle]

they just have to make a free account

[sharp rivet]

what if they dont want to

[wicked nacelle]

???

[past steeple]

Then they could host and you join them

If you have steam ofc

[wicked nacelle]

no, they are on steam

and auriya is on epic. It has to be an epic session

[wicked nacelle]

tell them to gift you a copy on steam then 🙂

[sharp rivet]

people are like that sometimes

[wicked nacelle]

I can't help you with the social aspect.. ask around, I'm not good at that 😕

[past steeple]

Can't the other person who is on steam host and they join from epic? Or is it only a one way street

[balmy locust]

Is it still possible to make blueprinters larger than 6x6 using that trick where you place a blueprint INSIDE of it, which extends past the edge, without actually touching the blueprint designer? Or was that patched out? I saw a youtube video discussing it.

I can't seem to do it, it won't let me save the "new" blueprint.

[wicked nacelle]

You have to match session types -- either steam or epic. Steam users can connect their epic login and join via epic. Epic users cannot link their steam account to epic (the reverse direction) to join a steam session

[past steeple]

Ahhhh, gotcha

[wicked nacelle]

I've found it to be pretty ruthless about the size -- sometimes I can't even fit a 6x6 blueprint in a 6x6 machine with build gun (only using the load button)

if someone refuses to get an epic account then everyone must be on steam OR you use a dedicated server which doesn't use any provider game sessions

that just uses your IP address and password

[sharp rivet]

couldnt get a DS to work last time and seems like a lotta work

[balmy locust]

There was a bug about it at one point that let you build past the edge, not sure if it was patched.

[sharp rivet]

bring punished for buying the game before it came to steam :<

[wicked nacelle]

you just download the dedicated server thingy and hit "go" I think. but then you have to do port forwarding on your router if they're not on the same LAN. it's not hard but its not trivial

[wicked nacelle]

not really. your "friends" refusing to register a free account are the problem

[balmy locust]

It was fixed.

[wicked nacelle]

tell them to either get the free account or buy you a steam version

or if you want someone to walk you through setting up a dedicated server I can probably help you with that but you have to kinda know how to log in to your router and change some settings

[sharp rivet]

i mean even if they had epic the cross play is still funky

[wicked nacelle]

I haven't heard of the problems, but maybe there are

[wicked nacelle]

try joining this id: Epic://3133663061303431393661383435356239613837336434336461376132363262 -- I'm on a steam copy. (just some random world I just set up -- not worth anyone else joining)

also damn this frame rate is SOOOOO buttery smooth

[sharp rivet]

the problem is when other steam players join in

cant join you have a mod

[wicked nacelle]

oops

[past steeple]

I swear Bean is like my dog. Very cute and lovable but always in the way

[wicked nacelle]

Epic://3830643565633162396435303462636238656165356635316436663133313236 and can someone on steam that has their epic account linked also join please

[sharp rivet]

does steam have crossplay mode .-. weird that it dosent

[wicked nacelle]

the problem is that EPIC doesn't let you tie your steam account to it. steam is actually doing the right thing

[sharp rivet]

connection lost

[wicked nacelle]

weird.

I dunno.

[sharp rivet]

epic isnt doing anything tbh. missing a lot of features

cant seem to join so off to a great start

[wicked nacelle]

well, I shut it down.

[rough geode]

i decided i was going to have mini-factories spread all over the map
now when i need to fix something its a 5 min train ride
youplayedyourself.jpeg

[sharp rivet]

.-.

[past steeple]

Just use a hypertube cannon, ez

[wicked nacelle]

make a blueprint of it so wherever you are you can just plop one down

and if you commonly go places without power you could evne make a blueprint that had some bioburners in it

[past steeple]

I would make one regardless. Super useful for hard drives that require power

[wicked nacelle]

oh I never thought of that I always just put them down by hand... somteimes like 12 or whatever

[past steeple]

Make sure you put a single biofuel in each of them in the blueprint, so when you plop it down for a hard drive, you just connect it up, grab the hard drive, and dismantle it with the blueprint dismantle mode

[gilded goblet]

does hypertubes have a thing that slows you back down

[past hedge]

nah its not that bad just an afternoons work

[wicked nacelle]

I'm not josh

[past hedge]

filling that many on the other hand is an adventure

theres a reasson i only filled 800 on mine

[open tree]

the jelly landing pads might work

[wicked nacelle]

yeah that would just be a advanced setting mode and give myself a full inventory of wahtever

[past hedge]

nah with no AGS

[wicked nacelle]

yeah, it covers the entire ground of the map

[gilded goblet]

bc I want to have hypertubes that like, connect me to my factories like jump in, 30 seconds later i'm IN the factory

[past steeple]

With some skill and a little luck, you can hold down the button that is the opposite of the direction you are moving (s if moving forward, w if backwards, etc) and slow yourself down

[past hedge]

just full inventories of ficsmas ornaments at a time

[gilded goblet]

I'm sure you can tell that I've never used a hypertube before

[past hedge]

if your woried about reliability just make the canon go into a regualr tube instead of launching you into the air

it keeps the speed enough to not be much of a concern

[gilded goblet]

yea like I want the end of the tube to be at the desired factory

[wicked nacelle]

that just sounds like so much work when one canon can send you anywhere on the map

[gilded goblet]

oh it doesn't even fling you like I thought it would, sweet

[wicked nacelle]

lots of people grab these blueprints that have 2 rail tracks and hypertubes in the same blueprint so you jsut build one thing and you get both. nwo with autoconnect that's probably even faster

[past hedge]

blueprints are for lazy people hehe

i still build like 95% manually

[wicked nacelle]

I use them but I make my own

but I do have a "2 rails next ot each other" blueprint that I use to run two rails at the same time

[past hedge]

yea i have that too

that and a few custom walls

[lost wagon]

what's the ratio for power storage? I know the more the better but, store for 1 hour the same amount of your max consumption?

[past hedge]

i cant wait to be abel to get back to doing dumb game breaking mega projects again

[wicked nacelle]

that seems overkill and gets MASSIVE later in the game. 15 minutes should be long enough for you to get things back up and running

[past hedge]

making 30 alien power matrixes per minute has been taking all my time

[wicked nacelle]

and absolutely not max consumption -- current consumption is fine

(for some people they are close but for me they are not)

[past hedge]

good luck but by like 100,000MW it gets very hard

[lost wagon]

we don't need sky, we can make a dome on top of the map made of power storage instead

[wicked nacelle]

I have dedicated frame and wire factory by my batteries just to be able to spam blueprints of them

[past hedge]

i need to check how many batteries i have

[wicked nacelle]

my backup battery is 140k MWh

[past hedge]

i forget

and i keep deleting a bunch for belt space

[wicked nacelle]

I have a connected battery too that's about half that. So notice it sucking power I can fix it before I have to hit the backup battery on

oh it's actually bigger, it's 165k

[surreal ingot]

Everytime I reach coal generators I praise god

Fuck bio generators, all my homies hate bio generators

[past hedge]

i have 172,500MWh of batteries

but iv been waiting on wire to make even more

[wicked nacelle]

if you can't fix your factory in however long that buys you then you don't deserve to have your factory 🙂

[past hedge]

but my capacity is also 460,000MW

and i have machines drawing 90,000MW each

[wicked nacelle]

sure.. that's normal end game

my consumption is 600GW right now

so I can run it for 15 minutes on my main battery and then another 15 on backup battery -- for me the failure would be trains getting stuck that I don't notice. 15 minutes is enough to rerail and get them going wherever they were going to get my power infrastructure back online

[pine adder]

how do you change the ||ammo|| on like the ||rebar gun|| or the ||detonater|| thingy?

[quiet gust]

hold r

no point in censoring

[fathom shuttle]

Guys it’s time for me to finish project assembly

[wicked nacelle]

say it ain't so

[surreal ingot]

I also just got the rebar gun why haven’t rushed the MAM before

[fathom shuttle]

Thank you for showing me this, it means that regardless of how bad my power plant build will be, some has done far far worse than me xD

[fathom shuttle]

No wait it’s phase 4

[quiet gust]

i was gonna say arent you at phase 4

[willow glen]

During the downtime at the end of phase 2 and 3 is the best time to finish whatever you can in the MAM; specifically finding quartz and caterium is top on my list

[wicked nacelle]

you gotta get quartz for blade runners anyhow

[fathom shuttle]

Propulsion system will be done

[fathom shuttle]

Yea I got confused lol

[quiet gust]

( unless you go to doggo cave or get enough quartz from rocks)

(oor silica from crash sites)

[willow glen]

oh man enough quartz from rocks sounds more difficult than just running to a node, but it’s def possible

[quiet gust]

i was easier for me early game cause i didnt wanna go in the quartz cave and i went to the crator lakes for power

[wicked nacelle]

most of the nodes are either very dangerous or impossible to get to early game

[surreal ingot]

Already found a tiny bit of caterium, just haven’t gotten it in the MAM yet for some reason. I also need to find quartz because I got a bunch of silica from crash sites

[quiet gust]

(not if you start in forrest)

[willow glen]

all starts have one that’s possible (no gas or uranium), but they’re all well defended yeah. Rebar gun is good enough tho.

[quiet gust]

everywhere else its pretty far away

[surreal ingot]

I also can’t find any SAM

[quiet gust]

where is ur starting location

[surreal ingot]

Desert

[wicked nacelle]

you have to stumble on an actual node - there's no little sam rocks to break to research to get it on yuour object scanner

[quiet gust]

whcih one

[surreal ingot]

The first one

[fathom shuttle]

Cargo loaded

[wicked nacelle]

there's some on the very north coast in the dune desert up in a cliff/mountain thingy

[quiet gust]

( or get doggos to give it to you 10 times)

[wicked nacelle]

oh

[willow glen]

rocky desert, the one with the bulb trees?

[quiet gust]

they only give 1 sam each lmao

[quiet gust]

rocky or dune

[surreal ingot]

Whichever one is for beginners

[wicked nacelle]

man I've already grabbed all the coal on the map and I'm only able to make 1200-1300 dark crystals per minute to feed into warp drives. need 1600 (not counting the ones used for making other ingredients for warp drives)

[quiet gust]

you can either go to the quartz cave or up to the crator lakes, where the giant waterfall is

[cerulean gorge]

when do i unlock nobelisk detonators, a dog just gave me a nuke

[willow glen]

Rocky desert has two closely but the one in the quartz cave inside the northern cliffs is the one I always stumble into (looking for quartz lol)

[wicked nacelle]

sulfur tree - unlocks with nobelisk

[quiet gust]

LMFAO

sulfur tree

[cerulean gorge]

i dont even have coal unlocked :(

[surreal ingot]

There’s a quartz cave?

[quiet gust]

yerp

but without nobelisks its hard to get to

[willow glen]

Scan for quartz. You’ll see a group of 3 nodes north of you. Find them (they’re underground)

[surreal ingot]

I can’t scan for quartz yet

[quiet gust]

do u have coal

[surreal ingot]

Yes

[willow glen]

Find a quartz rock, there’s plenty around.

[quiet gust]

go east and up to where a waterfall is

[willow glen]

idk the specific locations just mine all pink rocks

[quiet gust]

there is sam there

its a hike but thats the next closest

[surreal ingot]

I logged off for a bit I’ll check it later

[wicked nacelle]

bring a bunch of hand miners and put them down. go away for a bit then come back and harvest it all

[surreal ingot]

Time to craft 100 of them

[wicked nacelle]

that may not be quite necessary but yeah. and it compresses 1:4 immediately if you turn it into awakened sam as you pick it up so by the time you've compressed it you can pick up a bunch more 🙂 it hammers out fast IIRC

[arctic spindle]

im using chainsaw and the tree disappears and i dont get anything

[wicked nacelle]

si your inventory full?

[arctic spindle]

i have one slot empty

[wicked nacelle]

weird. dunnop

[quiet gust]

is it a tree or is it coral

stupid question but it might make the difference

my other idea is you might need space for leaves and wood

[wicked nacelle]

yeah try just setting down a few slots worth of stuff and see if it fixes it

you can just drag it out of your inventory and it will make a stack on the ground

[surreal ingot]

Plot twist. They’re breaking down beryl nuts

[quiet gust]

i prolly shoulda said this its worth bringing power poles as that place has 3 coal nodes and lots of water for coal power

best spot imo for early game coal power

[surreal ingot]

I started near uhh

The 3 coal nodes under the mountain

Next to the big lake by the desert

[quiet gust]

that works just less coal

depends how much you need

[surreal ingot]

Yeah they’re only giving me 30 per miner rn but that’s enough for my whole factory rn

[quiet gust]

30?

send me a screenshot

[surreal ingot]

90 per minute, 6 generators total right now

[quiet gust]

that sounds wrong

do u have nobelisks unlocked, if so your life will be much eassier

[surreal ingot]

I just got to coal

[quiet gust]

thats fine actually

are you right be the ocean

or by a more river like water source

[surreal ingot]

Hold on lemme boot up satisfactory again

[arctic spindle]

i freed up space and it works now

[gritty sleet]

As we know from the trailers, lizard doggos like riding conveyor belts. What happens if the conveyor belt leads into a dimensional depot?

[fathom shuttle]

Ok so I have trigon and time crystal production up and running

[arctic spindle]

im trying to mine coal but this big ass rock wont let me and i cant find sulfur

[fathom shuttle]

All I need to do now is unlock the milestones

I’ll the neural quantum processors

450 trigons should be enough for my depot xD

[gritty sleet]

Not to be confused with 450 trygons

[fathom shuttle]

I need 10k iron plates but forgor where my iron plates production is

[rigid glen]

450 Trigons would be a disaster for this plane. We could barely holdback on and his daughter nearly died to do it, along with the world if he had succeeded 🙂

[rigid glen]

Map markers are your friends

[gritty sleet]

Run your save through the Satisfactory Calculator map

[surreal ingot]

#screenshots message

[surreal ingot]

#screenshots message

[quiet gust]

yeah thats what i thought

if you go alittle past that ridge and unlock sulfur you can make nobelisks to get sam

[surreal ingot]

Which ridge?

[fathom shuttle]

Man I need to make like 50/min super position oscillators

I didn’t account for that when making my electronics factory

[quiet gust]

i sent an image of where it is aproximately

[gilded goblet]

Is there enough hard drives on the entire map to get every single alternative recipie

[quiet gust]

7 more than you need

[gilded goblet]

fun

so, is there anything in this game that you cant technically get in one run?

[fathom shuttle]

I legit don’t know where my iron plates factory is lmao

[quiet gust]

no

[fathom shuttle]

Nope

[gilded goblet]

wonderful

[quiet gust]

(fully organized and optimized factories)

[gritty sleet]

Youv'e got that many factories that you can't look at the map and narrow down which one is what?

[prisma forge]

You've GOT to be kidding me. Fluid freight platforms hold 2400m³ of liquid whereas the train transports only 1600m³. WHAT THE HECK THAT SCREWS UP MY WHOLE CALCULATIONS

[gilded goblet]

I want to 100% the game in this run

[quiet gust]

thats what the game is built around

[gilded goblet]

ah

the ability to automate EVERY item?

[rigid glen]

You can, restarting is a personal thingh, not required for any achievements

[fathom shuttle]

I don’t have many factory but I just can’t remember

[quiet gust]

ive heard there is a bug with the mam achievement but you can just revert save

[gritty sleet]

There's a few that aren't automatable, like the healing consumables

At least not fully-automatable

[quiet gust]

what if i tell you trains and fluids are horrible anyways

[quiet gust]

honestly that would be a great mod imo

[gritty sleet]

What if I told you I'm using trains to transport fluids lol

[rigid glen]

Automation of every playable part isn't a game goal, and shouldn't be. Finishing the game just means meeting the space elevator needs

[gritty sleet]

Farming like in Factorio's new swamp planet (I haven't played the DLC yet)

[prisma forge]

WHY WOULD THEY MAKE IT LIKE THAT THO WTF

[quiet gust]

i would tell you good like and build several train stations

[arctic spindle]

how am i supposed to make steel if i cant put a miner on the coal

[gritty sleet]

Or farming like in Riftbreaker

[arctic spindle]

hate it here

[gilded goblet]

well yea, i assumed that, but i mean every like needed item

[stray loom]

Fluid trains are cool and that automatically makes anyone that uses them cool

[quiet gust]

idk but thats the reason they arent great

[rigid glen]

What's preventing it?

[gilded goblet]

Like heavy modular frames, supercomputers, and Fuel rods

[arctic spindle]

the boulder

[quiet gust]

i do like them, but i hate theirr throughput

[rigid glen]

You'll soon have something to remove those, are you in waterfall lake area?

[gritty sleet]

Yep, rule of cool. Tank cars ftw

[gilded goblet]

i want to automate, BALLISTIC WARP DRIVE's

[leaden ether]

The dry goods platforms are the same way, they hold like 50 stacks but the cars only take 32...

[quiet gust]

prepair for pain misery agony and advice from xaxxon (cause he's doing that)

at max amounts

[gilded goblet]

whats max amounts...

[quiet gust]

idk but for reference my 650 hour world made 20 without production am,plifer his makes 30 with a bunchy of sloops in machines

per minute

mine makes more of the otherr parts though

[gilded goblet]

jesus

i wanna make a factory that makes

1000/minute

[quiet gust]

you cant

[gritty sleet]

y tho

[gilded goblet]

why cant i

[quiet gust]

sam ore

30 per minute uses nearly all of it in the world

[gilded goblet]

wtf

[quiet gust]

iirc

[undone yarrow]

Ballistic Warp drives cap out at around 60/min pre sloop

if the Max points/min is anything to go by

[gilded goblet]

pre sloop?

[arctic spindle]

yeah thats the closest ore to my base

[quiet gust]

do you have somersloops

[gilded goblet]

no but i'm also like, literally phase 1

[rigid glen]

There are two more nodes by the borthwest wall, use those for now

[gritty sleet]

You've got several hundred hours to go before even thinking about ballistic warp drives lol

[gilded goblet]

ik

[quiet gust]

theyy are a collectible that lets you do many things one of them is inserting it in machines to double output without increasing input at the cost of 4xx the power

[undone yarrow]

Yeah, its 60/min is the functional cap

[gilded goblet]

ah

[undone yarrow]

(120 with somer sloops)

[fathom shuttle]

? No??

[rigid glen]

There are three open nodes in that area, you'll be fine with those until you open the sulphur tree in the MAM

[quiet gust]

depends how much sam you use

[fathom shuttle]

It’s not that expensive in ficsit if you use aluminum

[quiet gust]

it uses a lot

[quiet gust]

why tfd would i waste aluminum

[gilded goblet]

aluminum you can produce infinitely?

idk

[wicked nacelle]

burns a rate and youre rate limited

[undone yarrow]

Everything is limited in the amount you can extract per minute

[quiet gust]

you can produce everything infinitely but there is a cap on how much per minute

[gilded goblet]

yea

[quiet gust]

functionally its 9300 ingots per minute, more if you wanna waste quartz

[gilded goblet]

😭

9000alum a minute is ludicrous

[wicked nacelle]

nope

[fathom shuttle]

it’s more SAM efficient, so it makes sense since sam is rarer than aluminum

[fathom shuttle]

Nah you’ll burn through that pretty quick

[gilded goblet]

theres literally no way you can burn through 9300 alum a MINUTE

[fathom shuttle]

I have a medium size factory going and I’m eating through 6k

[quiet gust]

i mean ig but only for a challenge run would it be worth and imo challenge run as a first run aint a great idea

[gilded goblet]

i wanna get every alternative recipie tho thats one thing

[fathom shuttle]

Mk6 logistic UNLOCKED LETS GOOO

[gilded goblet]

and MAM maxed

[quiet gust]

that will take time

cant even do it till tier 9

for me that took like 500 hours

[gilded goblet]

you cant unlock an alternative recipie till T9?

[quiet gust]

not alll of them

they are linked to tiers

[gilded goblet]

weird

[gritty sleet]

One of the hard drives needs a superposition oscillator to open, for example

[gilded goblet]

what will MAM say if I max out everything for my tiers

[rigid glen]

Did 1.1 reset spheres/loops/slugs?

[gritty sleet]

They're gated behind items you can't make yet

[gilded goblet]

i'd hope I cant make superposition oscillators yet

[quiet gust]

it makes sense, why woulod you want an alt for heavy modular frames if you cant even buiid a manufacturer

[gilded goblet]

😭 long ahh name

[gilded goblet]

yea true

[fathom shuttle]

Omg they look so cool when you color them

[gilded goblet]

what does?

[fathom shuttle]

Mk6 belts

[gilded goblet]

ah

fun, i just unlocked Mk2 belts

[quiet gust]

Worst belt in the game

[trim vine]

ez money

[stray loom]

There are extra hard drives though so you don't ever have to get that one unless you're just OCD about getting all the hard drives or something

[quiet gust]

Go with pink

[gilded goblet]

yea ik

[quiet gust]

he wanted to automate 1000 lmao

[gilded goblet]

LMAO

[quiet gust]

per minute

[trim vine]

hmmmmm

[gilded goblet]

doable

(SCIM cant even tell me how)

[wicked nacelle]

80/m is my goal and its killin g me

[quiet gust]

with infinite sloops maybe

[gilded goblet]

maybe

I got an hour or two to think ab it

[quiet gust]

then of course power would be hell

[gilded goblet]

fair

[quiet gust]

though i guess unlimited augmentors go brrrrrr

[fathom shuttle]

Can finally run miners at full speed

[gilded goblet]

i just unlocked Mk2 belts so that'll be my next factory (Jokes)

[fathom shuttle]

10 coupons a minute

[quiet gust]

yeah tilll the scaling kicks in harde54r

[gritty sleet]

Meanwhile me with 624 coupons sitting in the sink because I ran out of stuff to buy with them (aside from the trophies) a very long time ago

[quiet gust]

did u bbuy all the trophies

[gritty sleet]

If I had to guess, each one is like 30-40 million points at this point

[gritty sleet]

Not yet

[quiet gust]

do that

[gritty sleet]

But yeah, I'm doing ~400k points per minute

[trim vine]

I dont think you can, max you can do per minute with most recipes enabled is about 19.615

[wicked nacelle]

19 what?

[trim vine]

if you sloop it all, that number goes up to around 40 or so

[quiet gust]

i have 20 with only 4 accelerators with sloops

[fathom shuttle]

Uh that’s very bad, only 31% battery left

[quiet gust]

if you dmr loop properly you save a lot of sam

[gritty sleet]

Btw converting creature guts into DNA points is a great way to get some early unlocks

[trim vine]

I was missing some stuff

77.723 (x2 when slooped over 77.723 manufacturers

[fathom shuttle]

120GW power consumption

[quiet gust]

(124ish sloops hmmmmmm)

[fathom shuttle]

I fully overclocked and slooped 2 converters for time crystals and they’re drawing 5.3GW each

[fathom shuttle]

It tops out at 240m

[quiet gust]

oh does it now

i never noticed

[wicked nacelle]

yes, which is about 80 BWD/m

[fathom shuttle]

For whatever reason my max consumption goes up randomly in it went from 120gw to 140gw now

[quiet gust]

(vvariable power machines go brrrrr)

[wicked nacelle]

I wish there were a precision nobelisk that would only destroy what it was stuck to

[gritty sleet]

It just started on a new coupon and it's ~30 million points lol

[quiet gust]

it called aim better bozo /s

[fathom shuttle]

Mk3 blueprint designer unlocked

[wicked nacelle]

if I want to keep a tree but kill a gas thingy it can be very difficult to find the radius to put it

[quiet gust]

i mean you can just scim it back

or scim the gas node out

[wicked nacelle]

I don't care that much about a stupid tree 😛

[quiet gust]

then hit it with a chainsaw to establish dominance

[wicked nacelle]

I don't carry gas filters

[trim vine]

-flips through FICSIT contract-

You're not being paid to care about trees

[trim vine]

thats crazy work

[fathom shuttle]

Mk3 blueprints will definitely help with fitting big systems in the nuclear power plant

[wicked nacelle]

turns out fixit has no power over me. other than a voice in my head they can't do shit

[prisma forge]

Alright boys, my mega rocket fuel powerplant is up and running. Just need to think of a cool name for it

[trim vine]

-stares in disappointed ADA-

[terse kindle]

Is there a way to revert all swatches to back to default? I understand it will change the currently swatched buildings and structures, but I played around with them all too much and just kinda wish I had the default options again.

[wicked nacelle]

tell her to do something about it if she doesn't like it... oh wait

[prisma forge]

Yup. Edit, load preset, FICSIT primary/secondary

[fallow hollow]

best thing to sink for tickets post oil?

[fast talon]

Can someone help with trains in questions channel please

[wicked nacelle]

I mean... elevator parts are the best things.

[fallow hollow]

oops my bad i didnt mean to reply to that lol

[wicked nacelle]

sure, but it's still the answer 🙂

[quiet gust]

I love rebar gun

[wicked nacelle]

when you automate the earlier ones keep a couple containers and then start sinking the excess

[quiet gust]

I prefer the set up a few sinks and run the hell away and do something else

[fallow hollow]

thanks!

[quiet gust]

Like take 3 days to set up a worldwide train network

1 of them to design a blueprint

I love my train lines

[fallow hollow]

by elevator parts you mean everything that has to go into the space elevator? are they all really equal?]

[quiet gust]

No some are worth more

[wicked nacelle]

the different parts have different values, but there is a significant bump in sink points for making elevator parts vs their components

[quiet gust]

But only one of them has any use outside of the elevator

So nothing else to do with them

[wicked nacelle]

well, store a container or two for the next part that builds on top of those... but after that yeah, sink those things

[fallow hollow]

what one would that be?

[wicked nacelle]

you won't be building them fast enough to do the next part quickly most likely, so it's good to have a backlog

pasta

[quiet gust]

Nuclear Pasta

[wicked nacelle]

and you end up wanting way more of them than you'd ever imagine 🙂

[fallow hollow]

hmm, alright. i set up an electric wiring farm a WHILE back, so i should be able to sink some of that

[quiet gust]

What you can do is set up an overflow smart splitter connected to a sink to make points while storage is full

[wanton fox]

hi, noob question, how i can balance 65 ingots/m into 16 ingots/m?

[quiet gust]

You don't?

[wicked nacelle]

don't -- just let the thing fill up and then it will back up. it's called a manifold

if you oversupply something it will slow itself down

[quiet gust]

Also if you want even division obviously 65/16 isn't whole

[wanton fox]

is for a HMF build i did in tools

[quiet gust]

So a machine would need to be under locked or overclocked

[quiet gust]

Ah I see

Well yeah you just manifold it imo

[fathom shuttle]

Separate the output of the machines and overclock to match the numbers

You can manifold but it will take at least 4 hours to balance it out assuming you’re not consuming any of it

It’s better to group the machines for each output

[wanton fox]

ok

[quiet gust]

Nah just preload it

If the startup is that bad

[tame tundra]

Guys
I am new to hosting
Is it possible to host a dedicated server for this game if I run a VPN

[wanton fox]

#screenshots

@quiet gust @fathom shuttle

[quiet gust]

It'll take 3 minutes to fill up max

Manifold it

[fathom shuttle]

Ohhhh

I thought he was doing 65 HMF

[quiet gust]

I was thinking 65 sounded familiar

[fathom shuttle]

Not 65 ingots

[quiet gust]

Either way a balancer ain't worth it

Imo

[fathom shuttle]

Yea a manifold works fine

[fathom shuttle]

A balancer is needed if he is going to be transporting it

[quiet gust]

Why

[fathom shuttle]

Other than that it’s not worth it

[quiet gust]

Just be patient

[wicked nacelle]

trains and drones manifold, it just takes a while. they'll fill up and pick up the right amount

[quiet gust]

Do something else while it fills up

Like build another factory or the other part of it

[wanton fox]

i hate those numbers, why cant tools just give me close numbers

or in pair

[quiet gust]

Wym

[fathom shuttle]

You can just round down

[quiet gust]

That sounds like a bad idea

Round up if it's that bad

[wanton fox]

oh i just found the solution. the 9 refinerys, 8 are in 100% normal speed, each one produncing 65 iron ingots. but the last one is producing 34.67 ingots per mint at 53.3334% clock speed. That in a spliter halfs to 17, so it works xD

sorry for the problem, but i will take your adivce for the rest of the building

[quiet gust]

Yeah

[wanton fox]

sorry sorry u.u

[quiet gust]

I just didn't know what numbers you were talking about

[wicked nacelle]

dang I had to shut down so much power that now I have to worry about power 😮

600/740 or so

[drowsy rock]

10000 rubber and 7500 steel beams bro 💔

[wicked nacelle]

I hate the "3 way rail split but it only recognizes 2 of them" station is unreachable bug

solution is to delete the track BEFORE the split and then reconnect it.

[flint grail]

How fast are mergers?

[wicked nacelle]

as fast as your belts

[flint grail]

Weird, cause the jam I'm having is at the mergers

[wicked nacelle]

basically they're infinitely fast but limited by your input/output belts

[wicked nacelle]

there is a "bug"/"missing feature" that they don't work at belt seams if you place them on them

[flint grail]

So, if I upgrade, I gotta re-plcae them down?

[wicked nacelle]

nono

but like... say you build a belt as long as it goes and then start another belt chunk there. then you put a merger/splitter down where the seam is -- that doesn't work

anyhow, maybe post a screenshot and link it here?

[sterile blade]

... Just choose numbers you like? 😅
Don't let a software dictate how and/or play for you

[drowsy rock]

#screenshots instead of link

[wicked nacelle]

post there then "copy link" and post the link here (better than just posting channel)

[sterile blade]

Example #screenshots message

[fathom shuttle]

Oh shoot I forgot about my aluminum factory

I need to rebalance the whole thing now

Because Mk6 belts

[flint grail]

#screenshots message

[sterile blade]

Isn't that how belt segments get welded together?
It shouldn't be prevent connections between the belt segments afaik

[wicked nacelle]

tias 🙂

[flint grail]

It's acting like a Mk.3 merger instead of what the belts are

[wicked nacelle]

OOH

a lot of time you'll end up with a TINY segment of another belt type hidden inside

you gotta kinda look at the speed of the stuff on it and kinda guess wher eit is, then get rid of the merger/splitter and upgrade the belt (or better delete it and remake it longer)

there's a mod that does proper full-belt upgrading it but the base game does a crap job

[sterile blade]

"Tias"?

[wicked nacelle]

try it and see

[proven trellis]

Am i allowed to ask for help on a factory in satisfactory here?

Cause i need help making this modular engine factory

Its real 🍝 🍝

[wicked nacelle]

oops forgot to hook up half the outputs of my dark crystal 'factory" up.. was wondering why I was missing 200/m

[wicked nacelle]

just ask your question

[proven trellis]

I need help on my factory can anyone help is what i meant

[wicked nacelle]

you want someone to log in to your world?

[sterile blade]

I'd argue the pioneer sometimes but does a crap job at deciding where to place some buildings
(Ie: just don't put mergers/splitters at the end of belts!)

[wicked nacelle]

make two chunks of belt and put a splitter right on the seam of the two and have a belt go off to the side and see if it gets items to the side and forward

[proven trellis]

I dont know i kinda forgot where i was going with that question, like i can make the factory but its real messy and i rarely make factories by myself, i usually help but nevery make.

[sterile blade]

Ops, I wanted to link a video exemplifying that, but I didn't upload it outside of Reddit 🙄