satisfactory

[quiet gust]

you dont need crystal comp since ur making caterium comps

thats irellavant ngl

[drowsy rock]

MY LUCK IS INSANE

[quiet gust]

what get?

[drowsy rock]

I FORGOT TO SAVE AND I LOST PURE CATERIUM

[stray loom]

I'd never use crystal computer because I need all my crystal oscilators to make billboards for pretty colors 😭

[drowsy rock]

BUT I GOT IT RIGHT AFTER I RELOADED

[drowsy rock]

valid

[willow glen]

lol how many billboards per minute do you make?

[quiet gust]

chat do i take my main train line through swamp outskirts or the border between swamp and titan

shit didnt mean to ping

[stray loom]

I had a project I was working on for my old 1.0 save that was nowhere near done and already a few hundred lmao

[drowsy rock]

I KEEP GETTING CRYSTAL COMPUTER

[willow glen]

The waterfalls is worth it

[quiet gust]

PICK PURE CAT

[quiet gust]

over the falls?

[drowsy rock]

i did.

[willow glen]

yaaaaaa

[quiet gust]

then yeah ur golden to start ur comp fact

[past steeple]

I hate to burst your bubble, but there is a non-0 chance that each hard drive possibilities are loaded on world load and after each hard drive. That would mean that, no matter how many times you reload, you will still get the same options on the following hard drive

[drowsy rock]

i think i got too many alt recipes i keep getting the same one

[past steeple]

I am not sure how the game is coded though ofc

[drowsy rock]

erm thats a lie

im getting randomized ones each time i reload

but i have too many damn alt recipes I KEEP GETTING THE SAME ONES

[willow glen]

however if there’s only 2-4 alt recipes left in the pool you’ll always see them

[past steeple]

Hey, I did say non-0

[dense violet]

... do you mean you just have a ton of recipes in your library you haven't picked?

[drowsy rock]

no.

[dense violet]

wdym then?

[drowsy rock]

i need to unlocked more stuff so i can get diff recipes bruhh

[quiet gust]

beams are op for angles ngl

[dense violet]

ah, well.. do that then? xD

[drowsy rock]

its what im doing.

[drowsy rock]

peak idea\

i use trains for the caterium 🤑

[quiet gust]

i mean in any way. Since free form can be build in any way and lets you snap things to it you can turn things super easily

[drowsy rock]

this game pisses me off

[quiet gust]

not really peak

[quiet gust]

y

[drowsy rock]

sliding off the mountain when i step on a ledge

then nearly dying

[strong pond]

ANY WAY TO GET RID OF THIS ROCK?

IN THE WATER

[quiet gust]

[leaden ether]

Wait till an Alpha Hog punts you into the void :D

[strong pond]

ITS THE QUARTZ NODE

IN THE SMALL POND

[quiet gust]

you mine it

[strong pond]

sorry ill stop screaming

[drowsy rock]

id rather fight 10 of those then deal with mountain climbing because i can just sit in the air

[quiet gust]

place a platform if you need to be out of water

[charred snow]

how do i get inside the green areas without taking damage and how do i get uranium without getting irradiated

[quiet gust]

tier 7 has a hazmat suit

mycelia research tree has gas filters

[strong pond]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1395605524342636655 this one?

[dense violet]

gas mask
radiation suit

or just use medical inhalers

[drowsy rock]

can you show me where the other oil and caterium stuff is im not doing this belting stuff anymore bro

like look at screenshots rq\

[strong heath]

got a weird issue suddenly. If I put the game in full screen it trigger the Dolby vision on my monitor and all whites are yellowish. if I play full screen windowed no issue. No other game does this. Did not have this issue previously.

[quiet gust]

why arent you using conveyor lifts?

will make this take 2 minutes

[drowsy rock]

i am

[quiet gust]

it will take you more time to get to the other cateriumn and oil nodes but if you want to know

[drowsy rock]

i just witnessed a hog kill itself wth

[mellow tree]

I get my coal power on tomorrow >:3

[drowsy rock]

i turn around and see a hog flying in the air and die

[drowsy rock]

do i use one manufacturer

[quiet gust]

wym

[drowsy rock]

for the computer portion

[quiet gust]

make as much quickwire as you can and the portion it out from there

itll prolly be 10

if u want less go for less

[drowsy rock]

i forgot my power shards :((

[strong pond]

lf help on my new thread tried everything https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1395605524342636655

[quiet gust]

hyper tube cannon back

[drowsy rock]

dont have one 😄

im getting off anyawy

[quiet gust]

make a blueprint

gn

[charred snow]

where do i make the upgrader tool again'

[quiet gust]

?

[charred snow]

like the build customizer

is that a thing

[quiet gust]

x

or do you mean the blueprint desinger?

[charred snow]

idk do i have to replace conveyor or can i just upgrade it

[fathom shuttle]

How many drones do I need for 400/min copper powder across the map with rocket fuel

[stuck oak]

am I missing something with Enhanced security asset in T3? it says extra hand slot but i still only have 3 slots

[quiet gust]

3 stacks per drone port per min is my rule of thumb, assumiing you have a drone coinected to both sides

[fathom shuttle]

I’m using a single drone port for each node

[quiet gust]

thats a dangerous idea

[fluid sapphire]

Equip new conveyor with build tool, hold ctrl and aim at old one

[fathom shuttle]

Why?

[past steeple]

Yall think 75 GW is enough for the game? Finally built my Rocket Fuel powerplant, and once it is all up and running, that is around what I should have

[quiet gust]

drones stallign

[quiet gust]

prob not but you can

[fathom shuttle]

Wdym? Running out of fuel or glitch out

[quiet gust]

throughput ineffiecnies

[fathom shuttle]

Idrc tbh I have 600/min packaged going

[quiet gust]

not the fuel the copper powder

basically the drones cant move enough and wait too long in the sky with more than 2

[fathom shuttle]

Explain

[quiet gust]

what does copper powder stack to, 100 or 200?

[past steeple]

Now I just have to put down 120 Fuel Generators, happy days

[past steeple]

200

[fathom shuttle]

500

[dense violet]

12,000

[past steeple]

Oh, would you look at that, it is 500

I thought it was 200 tbh

[fathom shuttle]

Yea it’s 509

[quiet gust]

then one drone port at the location and one at the destination is enough

[fathom shuttle]

You scared me there

[past steeple]

I had to check my depot storage lol

[quiet gust]

attach a drone on both ends and pre fuel the drone port that wont be getting any fuel

[fathom shuttle]

Alr

[quiet gust]

In general though I only link several ports to a single port if it's a low throughput item

[wicked nacelle]

I think I only do that for rocket fuel and yeah, it's low throughput once it reaches equilibrium

[fathom shuttle]

Well the copper powder is done

I just need to connect the ports together

Lots of spaghetti but I only need to comeback to this once I upgrade belts to Mk6

[fluid sapphire]

How many drones do you imagine one could have zooming the length of the map back and forth with 100 rocket fuel/min

[wicked nacelle]

50?

[fluid sapphire]

Seems like a lot

[fathom shuttle]

30-50

Assuming it’s packaged rocket fuel

[quiet gust]

idk but i made 450 to be safe and easily fuelled 220 in my first save

[fluid sapphire]

Yes it's Packaged ofc, And there I was, thinking I would need to make a separate fuel plant for my drones

I am planning packing 180

[fathom shuttle]

I’m supposed to make 600 but I diverted 3/4 to power

1/4 doesn’t work because I cut off the aluminum supply to the packagers lol

[fluid sapphire]

I can't imagine needing more than 50 drones ever really

Well, maybe post-game

But not before finishing the game

[fathom shuttle]

Laziness will make you need way more

[wicked nacelle]

it's easy to get sloppy with them

[fluid sapphire]

If it's a high throughput item I will just send it by train

[fathom shuttle]

You’ll go “man I’m not gonna build a train for 400/min of this thing I’ll use a drone) for basically most resources

[wicked nacelle]

I'm removing all the drones from my game and it's taking a lot of work even with a full map rail network

[fluid sapphire]

Well, I already have a pretty decent start of a rail system, building stations is pretty easy

[fathom shuttle]

Man I’m kinda losing motivation rn
I gathered 1.2k power shards for the nuclear power plant and I’m already out of power shards
Now I need to build more power to support the nuclear power plant startup + nuclear pasta

253 left

[wicked nacelle]

that seems kinda silly when you're so close to just building power shards. also, nuclear power EASILY pays for itself very quickly. Just don't overclock stuff yet.

[fluid sapphire]

Meanwhile me planning to build 1100 generators

[wicked nacelle]

fuel generators? or nuclear?

[fluid sapphire]

Fuel of course

[wicked nacelle]

I dunno

[fluid sapphire]

I suspect you don't need as many for nuclear

[wicked nacelle]

you can feed probably... 300-400 fully overclocked so that's about 1000 at 100%

I have ~100 and am at a terawatt with a couple smallish rocket fuel fields.. probably just a couple hundred burners

[fluid sapphire]

I won't be bothering with nuclear until I have a plan for that, recycling included

But I have just too much other stuff going on right now to divert attention to that

[rigid adder]

Is there a way to run game on older version?

[wicked nacelle]

ficsonium is fun but it takes SO MUCH SAM. I really recommend just burning uranium and sinking plutonium

[fluid sapphire]

I'm gonna cook 4800 RF at blue crater

For a start

[fluid sapphire]

Well I'll try to remember that

[quiet gust]

my world will have 132 nuuclear gens and 775 fuel gens (all fully overclocked)

and 4 matrixed augmentors

[wicked nacelle]

I got better use for that many sloops.

[quiet gust]

which is

[wicked nacelle]

warp drives

[quiet gust]

oh yeah

[wicked nacelle]

lots of warp drives

[fluid sapphire]

Ah, well it should get me close to 300GW that I imagine I will not use all of until post-game

[quiet gust]

most of mine are needed for ficsonium lmao

[fathom shuttle]

I kinda need to overclock nuclear, I don’t want to build 150 power plants

[wicked nacelle]

you don't need 150 power plants before end game.

[bright plover]

guys I'm stuck with a monorail: I have three stations, a train with 1 freight and two locomotives pointing at each direction, the train can't find the station it came from, could it be that I set my timetable wrong?

[wicked nacelle]

just ship the next load and then make your shards 🙂

[fluid sapphire]

I'm not 100% but I think you need block signals on both sides

[wicked nacelle]

train must go to the station with the engine going forward matching the direction of the station

[wicked nacelle]

are you getting the error "station not available"?

[bright plover]

yeah, I'm getting the station not available, and now I get the problem, thanks y'all

[fathom shuttle]

1.8 stack per minute

Or almost a 780 belt

[bright plover]

it's the direction 😄 is there a way to make a station a double sided one?

[fathom shuttle]

I don’t need two drones then

[fluid sapphire]

Don't think so, why?

[wicked nacelle]

you absolutely can but each way has a name and you have to use the correct name for the one you want

[bright plover]

because I set up the monorail thinking that I could have a singular line, station A -> station B -> station C -> station B and so on

[wicked nacelle]

You're good, just put another station at the other end facing the other way BUT BE CAREFUL about what is in what car when it's going whichever direction

[fluid sapphire]

Ah, in that sense yes, you'll have 2 stations at any one location

[wicked nacelle]

and then set your timetable to go to the station name that's facing the correct direction for how it's coming in

[wicked nacelle]

just the one in the middle, but yes. You can also have multiple lined up in the same direction -- it offsets which cars get loaded. For example, my aluminum factory has 2 freight spots with 4 stations in front of them... so I can load any combination of cars from 1-4

[dense violet]

yeah you'll need a station facing the same way as the engine is coming in at every stop

[wicked nacelle]

he has me blocked so he just says the same thing I say but slower and less awesome

[fluid sapphire]

Big brain setup

[dense violet]

though you can't have 2 station at one stop so stopping at B again in between might be difficult

[wicked nacelle]

and also wrong ^^^

[fluid sapphire]

Just pretend the other stop is also B ehhehhh

[wicked nacelle]

yeah you just say "a->b->c->d" but b and d share the same freight

[clear aspen]

anyone wanna make a new save

[wicked nacelle]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1201555265942724758

[dense violet]

#1201555265942724758

[strong pond]

anyone know how to break the quartz rock?

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1395605524342636655

[wicked nacelle]

you can't

and yeah, I know the node you're talking about without looking

I think you can do it in SCIM

and then reload without it

[strong pond]

😱

[quiet gust]

why

why does this rock exist

[wicked nacelle]

it's a weird unbreakable breakable quartz deposit

[quiet gust]

ik i tried to help

[wicked nacelle]

I've tried doing the "underwater walking" hack -- doesn't work. hoverpack doesn't work.

[fluid sapphire]

These deposits are weird, even the normal ones, I mine them and 20 minutes later they are back

[last tartan]

waot

wait you can mod satisfactory?

[halcyon yoke]

they prob respawn if you don't put a drill on them

[halcyon yoke]

yeah

[last tartan]

i must learn how

[halcyon yoke]

look up satisfactorymodmanager

[last tartan]

alr

[fluid sapphire]

It's not just the ones on nodes it seems, but also ones scattered around, but yeah, those ones on nodes are more noticeable

[halcyon yoke]

it might just be a function to add to the 'infinife material' aspect to the game, you're never gonna run out of anything

[last tartan]

before i dig into mods i gotta get more comfy with the base gaem

game* im still on coal power

[past steeple]

I am finding out the ramp up time on 120 fuel generators is quite lengthy lol

[quiet gust]

i would not get mods then except for qol like day ui(whichs changes time of day)

[halcyon yoke]

cool, before the 1.1 update I deleted my save because I wanted to start fresh (I had too many low quality mods) but now I'm finding myself lost with nothing to do (not to mention how hot my PC gets which leads me away from playing the game)

[last tartan]

what are your specs..

[halcyon yoke]

3060 and a 5k (i think, can't check rn)

[quiet gust]

2 gigs of ram

[halcyon yoke]

with 16g ram

[last tartan]

not too bad, i have the AMD equivalent of the 3060

but yeah my pc hates 1080p ultra on this game

[halcyon yoke]

before I got the pc upgrade (it had an amd 700 and some no name Intel core) it didn't heat up as much (of course, I had the graphics lowered to the lowest level possible, but even if I do that with my new PC it gets pretty hot)

[fluid sapphire]

That sounds like an airflow issue rather than specs issue

[last tartan]

you poor soul

[halcyon yoke]

i don't know what could be causing this issue, but also my new PC occasionally self resets or freezes up randomly

[past steeple]

I have a NVIDIA 4060 and my pc sometimes gets a bit loud on high settings. Then again, I was building everything in one place, which I have heard can make your pc cry for the sweet release of death

[last tartan]

yes im doing a new 1200 dollar build soon

[last tartan]

building in one place, what do you mean

[cerulean gorge]

i'm on a 4070ti (non-super) and my gpu doesn't get loud, i'm on ultra 🐟
(i ate the fans)

[halcyon yoke]

everything is loaded in at the same time

[past steeple]

One mega factory instead of smaller factories and using trains to transport needed resources

[last tartan]

ohhh, i get ya

[past steeple]

One mega factory makes everything loaded at the same time, which can cause pcs to chug

[dense violet]

pre flood the system by under clocking a few machines , helps stabalise thigns too

[fluid sapphire]

It's fun if you hate yourself and hate having a decent framerate

[fathom shuttle]

The exponential growth in coupon points is brutal

Each one costs 48m now

[dense violet]

I highly recommend getting through all the tiers at least once before modding, yeah

[cerulean gorge]

looking at a satisfactory calculator hurts my eyes

[last tartan]

when i place too much concrete my game gets to 15 fps

[halcyon yoke]

idk what i had when I was playing 1.0 that led me to just know what to do next, but i definetly lost it (either that, or satisfactory is just a very hard game to start, and then it gets more fluid)

[fathom shuttle]

It’s not a hard game by any means

[fluid sapphire]

Depends on what you find "hard"

[past steeple]

If you want a hard game, just download the mod Satisfactory PLUS lol

[dense violet]

as in you've lost direction?

[halcyon yoke]

yes

exactly

[fluid sapphire]

Just work your way up the tiers?

[last tartan]

did opening satisfactory always have a seizure warning?

[dense violet]

yeah that's rough.
for me going up the tiers is just a learning experience.

pick a milestone, and make the thing. Don't worry about numbers so much or how tidy it is.
learn what you can, then, when you're done with the phases , make your own interesting projects 🙂

[fluid sapphire]

1.1 "feature"

[cerulean gorge]

i saw the math flash before my eyes

[halcyon yoke]

before I deleted my old save I got to gas generator, so I have pretty good knowledge of the game by this point

well at least to that point

[fluid sapphire]

You mean fuel generator

[dense violet]

imo tiers 1-9 are just a very good tutorial 🙂 at least if you intend to treat the game like a sandbox afterwards

[halcyon yoke]

ya

[halcyon yoke]

well i intend to treat it like I need to reach a goal (automate everything, make collosal amounts of power, collect all collectibles) but rn there's not much I can do besides manual crafting and occasionally setting up a smelter and constructor

and I know I could be doing so much more but I just can't bring myself to it

[past steeple]

Per this, I am able to run World of Warcraft and Satisfactory at the same time at high settings, with the only caviat being that if I am at my mega base, the game crashes lol

[fluid sapphire]

One small step at a time

[halcyon yoke]

true, however in my old save i immediately made an iron factory and after that started making it into a megafactory

[dense violet]

why the manual crafting? you haven't automated the earlier parts?

[halcyon yoke]

true I haven't even made a miner yet

ig I'm just lazy

[past steeple]

I have terrible ADHD, so I know the feeling. What I do to keep from getting overwhelmed (although it still happens) is keep the objectives quantifiable. Instead of saying "create colossal amounts of power" think "create 100 GW (or whatever number)" to keep the finish line in sight. In your case, I would start by doing very small steps, since you are just starting out

I get distracted very easily and my brain goes a million miles per hour, and that strategy has helped me a ton

[dense violet]

well that's one giant hurdler. can't really move fwd without that

are you, in general, lacking motivation?

[last tartan]

am i the only one who loses motivation when trying to make racks of storage chests?

[past steeple]

Naw, that can be a dull task. No numbers going up

[dense violet]

possibly, why make them? xD

[last tartan]

like it feels... weird and i constantly have to go back to it for materials so im indecisive

[dense violet]

grab materials from large containers already being automatically fed

[last tartan]

i dont know what to do with like 3/4 of the loot i hoarde

[halcyon yoke]

usually i stop lacking motivation when i start automating stuff, which then the goals come at me in the face, but I'm not noticing anything yet, tomorrow I'll make a new game and set a goal

[last tartan]

like i made this and its just.. no #screenshots message

[fluid sapphire]

Use a production planner like sftools or modeler or whatever. It helps a ton, I don't know what I would do without sftools

[halcyon yoke]

possibly make a mall, you put all your loot in a single container and it automatically sorts each item into a container

[dense violet]

I mean you'd have to first manually fill it, then go back to it. Sounds like a massive pain

[last tartan]

yeah it is

[dense violet]

I have a few for non automated items?

but not basic items

[last tartan]

im probably gonna get rid of 3/4 these chests tho

[dense violet]

yeah.

[last tartan]

like things i dont use yet like alumimun cast pieces or computers ill have a few racks for thats abt it i think

i tried it but its a no go

this is gonna be lots of materials to handle.. 😬

[fluid sapphire]

Gather mercer spheres and do alien tech research ASAP, get your dimensional depots going

[last tartan]

i have one depot, it holds 500 concrete

[fluid sapphire]

It really eliminates a lot of inventory management

Set uploaders up for everything

[last tartan]

i gotta find more spheres, they arent the easiest to come by

[fluid sapphire]

If you have a jetpack and solid biofuel you have everything you need to find a ton of them, I don't agree with your assessment

They are every like every 200m

[last tartan]

not quite there yet

[fluid sapphire]

Ah, yeah, fair enough then

[last tartan]

im at the building concrete ramps up to high places and deleting them behind me stage

working on phase II

[fluid sapphire]

Yeah I guess that's a bit later for you then

[boreal musk]

automate your item organization using smart splitter

[last tartan]

not smort enough yet lol

im getting my feet on the ground and starting a good factory plot

the last one was uh.. weird.

[shy mulch]

Weird is good. Do things your way

[last tartan]

it was bad..

[halcyon yoke]

i still remember how satisfactory (pun intended) it was to tear down my old iron factory and remake it bigger and more efficient

[last tartan]

i approve of this pun!11!!!

[reef basin]

I'd personally recommend to not tear down things

[halcyon yoke]

besides the five million demolition chests in the air, those werent as satisfactory

[last tartan]

why do you suggest such?

its good to refresh every once in a while and what not

[past steeple]

First rule I learned in my Computer Science major: If it looks stupid and it works, its not stupid

Second rule: If it works, don't touch it

[last tartan]

thats the funny part, it didnt work 🤣

[dense violet]

it really depends on the person. It's more work, tearing down and then building again, and you can jsut build a new thing, but you're right, it can be refreshing

[halcyon yoke]

but what if it works horribly and you know how to make it better

[past steeple]

Then proceed with caution

[last tartan]

also, i learned the same rule working on my truck 😭

[fluid sapphire]

I could never let the first soup I built in grass fields just sit there in all it's spaghetti madness, I remember it vividly

[past steeple]

Before you improve, make a backup in case something goes horribly awry

[fluid sapphire]

Default auto save is every 5 minutes or something

[reef basin]

you need to spend time to dismantle and then time to build

if you instead just build new, you spend less time for better result (you still have old production AND also new production)

[past steeple]

Ye, usually stupidity manifests within 15 mins

[fluid sapphire]

The hope is over time you learn some foresight

[past steeple]

True, but better safe than sorry

[fluid sapphire]

Absolutely

[halcyon yoke]

but what if the old production is taking all the good nodes? sure, you could redirect them, but then sphagetti

[fluid sapphire]

There is no shortage of nodes, you just go elsewhere, is the idea

[past steeple]

Side note, holy hell rocket fuel has some serious lift

[reef basin]

there's so many nodes on the map, you most liklely won't run out of them

[boreal musk]

simply just build first and and reconnect the miner to the new build? it isnt that complicated

[halcyon yoke]

fair

[fluid sapphire]

But if you're doing that you might as well delete the old

[reef basin]

well that's not what I meant

I meant keeping both old and new

[past steeple]

Could be complicated to some, especially new folks

[boreal musk]

i know what you meant greeny, im talking to the cup guy about his "good" nodes

[reef basin]

well especially to new folks I wouldn't recommend any dismantling either 😛

[boreal musk]

if rebuilding in the same place, just let the miner run to the old factory, and reconnect later for the new build

[halcyon yoke]

as I said earlier, im a perfectionist and change my preferred style often, id rather tear down my entire factory than making a much better looking one next to an eyesore

[past steeple]

That is fair lol. Tearing down an entire base is a project in itself.

[fluid sapphire]

I am similar, some people will never understand

[halcyon yoke]

course tho, everyone has their playstyle so I'm not gonna judge

some people unironically play like let's game it out, and i honestly respect that

[wicked nacelle]

lol josh

[reef basin]

which is fair, it's not like you can't do that

my recommendation comes from the fact that this is practically the number 1 reason for burnout I see here - people tackle big projects which involve rebuilding big part of their factory and they often lose interest in the middle, leaving them with no factory and no incentive to play more -> burnout

[dense violet]

eh, most people who do try hard at LGIO

[past steeple]

Josh is the only person that could run out of space before running out of FPS

[dense violet]

that seems doubtful xD

his drones nearly killed it

[halcyon yoke]

okay, then counter argument: build the new factory and the dismantle the old one

[past steeple]

Question: Is ionized fuel worth going after? It seems quite pricey

[reef basin]

at that point why would you dismantle the old one? if it's working, it's better than being dismantled

[dense violet]

it's power negative

[fluid sapphire]

If deleting a big factory is too much work manually, just use SCIM

[boreal musk]

for power? nah, its pretty good as jetpack fuel

[past steeple]

Ye, I was mostly wondering as jetpack fuel

[dense violet]

but tbf, rf is pretty silly too. Nuclear is a far more interesting and compact build

[halcyon yoke]

because I find it much easier to completely dismantle and rebuild something than to ship of Theseus it

[dense violet]

oh fantastic for jet packs. Have like 1 machine make RF and one turning it to Ion

top tier jet pack fuel

[reef basin]

no I mean - if you built something, keep it. No reason to ever touch it, let it make the stuff you wanted from it. It won't decrease in production or anything, so just keep it and only build new things

[past steeple]

My current power plant will be (because I have not placed all the generators yet) 5 rocket fuel blenders and 120 generators

[halcyon yoke]

okay I don't know what I was thinking when i wrote this this makes no sense

[dense violet]

not crazy, but imo it's simpler just making a bunch of diluted fuel, or maybe turbo. Much less complicated logistics and its easy to expand

[past steeple]

Nuclear power seems like such a headache, I have not touched it yet

[halcyon yoke]

but what if it's just wasting power because it's so inefficient? what if it's an eyesore and you're a perfectionist? you gotta tear it down

[dense violet]

effectively every tier of fuel you process just converts other resources into more Oil. Which is fine? but there's lots of oil on the map

[reef basin]

power is practically infinite

the second reason I already mentioned before

[dense violet]

this is a plan without it being simplified with a few alts. about 260gw of power you can do in 42 gens https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=EBCnwp8Z4qX5Nd5AFKDz

[halcyon yoke]

yes but it's obnoxious work to have to double your power

[reef basin]

also I'm not sure how "inefficient" comes with "wasting power"

a few machines stopping isn't a reason to need more power

[dense violet]

you can significantly reduce the raw resource needs with a few alts

[past steeple]

The headache imo comes from the waste. To get rid of it, you have to turn it into plutonium, then ficsonium, which is 2 more plants

[boreal musk]

or just sink plutonium rod

easy

[dense violet]

you could store it forever pretty easily

[past steeple]

Thats fair, the generation is pretty slow

[dense violet]

but yeah the p rods is an interetsing chain. the base recipes aren't too bad, especially if you use drones

[halcyon yoke]

i thought you couldn't because of ficsit doesn't waste thing?

[boreal musk]

plut rod can also be used as drone fuel, that can last hundreds of trips per fuel

[reef basin]

or store the waste

[past steeple]

I haven't yet used trains or drones, just ferrying things with Hypertube cannons lol

[dense violet]

it would be a small project, but with blueprints you could make a 10,000 hr storage system pretty fast

[boreal musk]

you can sink the rod

[dense violet]

drones are great for point to point transit with little infrastructure

imo really good for keeping nuclear fabrication independent from other grids

[halcyon yoke]

i feel like using it as any fuel would be more efficient (unless you're in desperate need of tickets)

[boreal musk]

sinking plut rod isnt about ticket, its about waste free

[dense violet]

for what?

oh the p rods

well even 1 P rod pm fuels a LOT of vehicles

[past steeple]

Yall, I forgot my 2nd floor for my rocket fuel blocks my hypertube cannon, so I just smashed my head into the ceiling at mach 3

[fluid sapphire]

Use some for fuel, sink the rest

[boreal musk]

why some? use all the rod for fuel

[reef basin]

at that point just sink all and not have radiation everywhere

[halcyon yoke]

use all you can for fuel and the overflowing ones (if you can even get that many at once) go to the sink

[dense violet]

a plan with some reduced raw resources https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=3ovm9c7yl8QV1SefhMa3

[past steeple]

3k limestone, whew

May be my excuse to build a train lol

[halcyon yoke]

yummers

[dense violet]

should be 1400 now?

[past steeple]

Oh, I was looking the other one lol

[dense violet]

ah yeah , wet concrete does a LOT of good work

[past steeple]

Ye, I have all these alternates, should be easy

[halcyon yoke]

in my old save game I had a limestone deficiency, then again in my old save game I had one mk2 miner going from a truck to my megafactory

[dense violet]

I'd pick a spot that you ignore sulfur and uranium location, and focus on the rest. Then drone those 2 things in

and then you can drone the uranium rods to the coast

[boreal musk]

3k limestone is honestly nothing, thats only 3 pure node

[dense violet]

assuming you're at mk6 belts

they're probably only at mk5

[past steeple]

I am at mk 5 😦

[dense violet]

so cutting it down to 1400 is real solid

plus it's a really low cost of refineries

[past steeple]

very close to unlocking mk6 though

but they will still be pricey for a bit

[boreal musk]

the north west part of the rocky desert has tons of pure limestone nodes, i think theres 7 of them that are nearby

[halcyon yoke]

would it be a bad idea to put miners and oil extractors on all the nodes in the world and make them lead to a central storage where they go to other factories (or maybe the central storage is a megafactory in itself)

[dense violet]

only need to build one bit at mk6 and split it 🙂

[past steeple]

True

[dense violet]

yes

[fluid sapphire]

I think you might underestimate the scope of this just a bit

[past steeple]

For reference, I have 2 bases atm: my mega factory in the Dune Desert, and my power plant at the lake in the southeast

[dense violet]

it would be an MASSIVE logistical project even if you were very experienced

[past steeple]

That....would take so long.....

[dense violet]

now if you think it'd be fun? go for it

but it's a hell of a job

[past steeple]

Probably a good 20 hour project, if you are dedicated

[boreal musk]

just for reference, theres a total of 92k iron across the map

[fluid sapphire]

I was just imagining all the iron

And that's just the iron, and then there is everything else

[dense violet]

try 200

[halcyon yoke]

would it give fruit tho

[dense violet]

at least

[fluid sapphire]

You probably won't even get the iron done in 20

[past steeple]

Depends on how pretty you want it

[dense violet]

I mean, maybe? if you put in the effort.

it'll be a TON more work than just bringing in what you need when you need it though

it's not something you would do as a simple option

also you'll never use all the resources on the map

[past steeple]

If you want no belt clipping, a full storage for it, smelting, etc, ya around 200-300

[halcyon yoke]

do drills in blueprints snap to ore nodes or do they not even work in blueprints

[fluid sapphire]

You can't put them in BP

[past steeple]

I honestly can't think of a reason to put a drill in a blueprint

[charred abyss]

can you put a drill in a blueprint designer?

[past steeple]

Seems not

[fluid sapphire]

Nope

[charred abyss]

maybe if you put the designer ontop of a node

but i havent tried it

[past steeple]

Naw, it would clip through the designer

[charred abyss]

probably

[fluid sapphire]

Not even then, you'll have some error about world buildables probably

[halcyon yoke]

needs to be on the designer grid I think to work

[boreal musk]

the only resources that i think is worth it to centralized is bauxite

[past steeple]

Correct cup, it would not work then

[past steeple]

Could also centralize the nitrogen gas for a rocket fuel power plant that would cover 1000s of generators

[halcyon yoke]

seems like the type of thing josh would do

[past steeple]

if you wanted, ofc. Would be a huge project

[haughty flax]

what items are commonly made in satellite factories?

[halcyon yoke]

small problem would be pipe logistics i think

[charred abyss]

the way he does conveyors would the game even run if he did that?

[halcyon yoke]

he'd probably have to raise the object limit thingy

[past steeple]

Anything that can be made with a single (or 2) resource(s). For example, you could make all the way up to fused frames using just iron and concrete if had some alt recipes

Northern Forest is a great place for that

Could also have a smelting satellite factory and use trains to bring the resources to the main processing factory

[boreal musk]

fused frame needs aluminum and nitrogen

[dense violet]

if you choose your location and recipes well you can do a satelite Super computer factory pretty easily @past steeple

[past steeple]

Oooo, true, forgot about the aluminum. Nitrogen I figured would be easy enough, since you need like a single line

Aluminum is a whole other story though

[halcyon yoke]

this message is an absolute reality check, I've never heard any of those words before but I know they're gonna take real long to get specially with the way i play

[reef basin]

all

[halcyon yoke]

in satisfactory I mean, ofc I've heard those words irl

[past steeple]

Nitrogen is easy to get, Aluminum is a whole process

[mortal belfry]

how do i connect 16 smelters in a straight line to 16 constructers?

[reef basin]

1:1

[halcyon yoke]

hold ctrl

[past steeple]

#screenshots message Hypertube cannons are so fun

Best feature in the game

[reef basin]

technically not a feature

[halcyon yoke]

not exactly a bug either

[mortal belfry]

i made all the smelters beside each other so 1 foundation has 2 smelters

[halcyon yoke]

acceleration is realistic, tho not at such high speds

[reef basin]

originally a bug

[halcyon yoke]

speeds
*

[past steeple]

One could consider slide jumping also a bug, but I consider it a feature as well

acceleration in satisfactory is fun to play with

[halcyon yoke]

ULTRAFACTORY

[reef basin]

well there's nothing to "consider", as whether it's a feature or a bug is decided by intention of devs 😛

[past steeple]

True lol

[boreal musk]

constructor size is exactly 1 foundation, space your smelter 1 foundation each so you have clean smelter to constructor row

[halcyon yoke]

it just works (as stated by the guy who made fallout 4, i forgot his name)

[mortal belfry]

yeah im replacing all my smelters rn

[fathom shuttle]

So my dummy brain didn’t account for the fact that I’ll need FMF for building stuff and now I won’t have any left over

Whoopsies

[past steeple]

ADA would like to have a word

[fathom shuttle]

I’ll just sloop some of the manufactures build like a 10k stash lol

[fluid sapphire]

the legendary todd howard

[fluid sapphire]

dont even worry about it, i have been working on my stuff for about 250 hours now and i am just now starting to even begin dipping my toes into that kind of stuff (tier 8 stuff)

actually that may be even overestimating how far i am, i have plans made for a bunch of things but really i dont even have computers set up xd

[dense violet]

honestly not a huge deal. Just 2 resources to import 🙂

[graceful pawn]

i got something i need to get off my chest

on my first save of satisfactory, i didnt know you could connect multiple power sources to a power line, so i would connect a machine to a power source, and if it broke the fuse, i would try another power source

[shy mulch]

For pretty much everything when I'm setting up pduction, I over estimate by 1 or 2 per minute and feed the overflow at a dd for that purpose

[graceful pawn]

and it took me ages every time i wanted to make a new machine

[shy mulch]

Wait, so you had a biomass burner attached to every machine?

[graceful pawn]

not individually, but i would make one power pole for every biomass burner, and i would connect as many machines as i could before it reached past capacity, and then i would make another biomass burner

[real wolf]

#streams-and-videos message not a promotion to my channel just the video is 150mb so pretty big
Anyways does it look good?

[jaunty jewel]

oh i did that for a while too lol

[minor rock]

youtube compression things zzz
it looks pretty blurry and theres colour banding a lot , for 150mb its good ig

the ray artifacts at 0:43 are pretty bad, it'd be nice if there was a way to let the rays accumulate and you take the scene in slow motion, then speed it up

[dense violet]

sometimes your brain just doesn't click 🙂

like some people automatically make belt manifolds

some people feel they need to manually split everything

[real wolf]

I took them in slow motion but they were so slow

It isn't YouTube fault it's DaVinci resolve that for some reason make it 1080p but I recorded it in 1440p 120fps on obs

[minor rock]

i havent taken a look, how areyou doing the slow motion ?
im not even sure if its possible, to do what i suggests

[real wolf]

I took the clip length to 40 sec then sped it up

[median tusk]

Is it worth getting chainsaw?

[minor rock]

something like world speed @ 0.1 and ray accmulation x10

[past steeple]

Idk why I did not turn on passive mobs sooner. I have an anxiety disorder and get jump scared super easily, I swear it makes the game 10x more enjoyable

just to run around and explore without having to worry

[minor rock]

a day night cycle could be cool like minecraft lol

[fluid sapphire]

at some point they just become annoying pests that reduce productivity

[minor rock]

get back to ur base before dark xD

[dense violet]

sure, get all the equipment

[past steeple]

Counterpoint, I will have nukes by then

[dense violet]

and research everything in the MAM

[past steeple]

That would be interesting, I would enjoy that tbh

[fluid sapphire]

nothing to counter, i was agreeing with passive mobs being a good idea

[past steeple]

Oh lol, ye

[fluid sapphire]

i have them on retaliate myself

[past steeple]

I thought you meant that you have to kill them anyways because they get in the way

but ya, I understand what you mean now

[real wolf]

Did you check it wasn't on 360p discord seem to standard that when watching videos in embed

[median tusk]

I only have 3 tools in my equipment bench

i just started playing

[dense violet]

you'll get more 🙂

[minor rock]

no it opened in youtube at 1080p xx

[dense violet]

don't forget the mam though! very important

[real wolf]

Then idk

[minor rock]

let me screenshot for u

[past steeple]

Ya know, after looking at them while they aren't charging at me, hogs have very derpy faces

[real wolf]

Also the server i made it on is so fricking laggy

[minor rock]

#screenshots

[median tusk]

ye i got the MAM, but dang thats hard

[fathom shuttle]

The particle accelerators are so cool wtf

[real wolf]

Yeah that billboard was for the server members to not remove the factory or build another computer factory

[minor rock]

zoom in you will see the compression artifacts

itson the whole vid

[real wolf]

Idk it looks good for me and it doesn't need to be movie quality

[fathom shuttle]

Lesson learned: don’t sloop and overclock a particle accelerator

[real wolf]

[median tusk]

How does the chainsaw work?

[reef basin]

the chain saws

[median tusk]

wow

how do i get it to turn on>?>

[real wolf]

Use solid biofuel to make it work

Then you go up to tree and cut it

[median tusk]

oh yes thank you

[real wolf]

Npp

Me and my friend got 4.8k solid biofuel in about 30 min of cutting down trees

[graceful pawn]

damn

[real wolf]

Northern forest is a biofuel gold mine

[graceful pawn]

u guys are dedicated lmao

[real wolf]

Nah

We had to clear an area for our starter factories

[last tartan]

IS THAT THE RED ONE

sorry i hit caps lock

the red forest is scary

[jaunty jewel]

no its the northern one. hope this helps!

(its one of the starting areas)

[last tartan]

its where i found the green spider guys

[real wolf]

It's a starter place. Loaded with iron and biomass

[last tartan]

those things genuinely terrify me

[jaunty jewel]

they just want a hug

[last tartan]

i'd say so, considering the fact they JUMP ON ME!!!

[minor rock]

did you use a mod for the rays or thats built in ?

[last tartan]

did u know the only way i defeat them was with towering up with the tiny walls

they couldnt jump on my tiny walls

[fluid sapphire]

ya'll

i found the foundry that was causing a the 15.9MW fluctuation thats been bothering me for like a week now

there was some ingot surplus i wasnt overflowing to a sink

[jaunty jewel]

if anyone ever makes a world where the consumption and max consumption are always equal i will be incredibly impressed

[sterile blade]

I think power storages can help a lot with that.
Eg: of there's a few in each factory, one can disconnect then from power to check wether the "inefficient machine" is in the power grid you isolated or not (the factory doesn't stop as it's running on power storages)

[fluid sapphire]

its such a spaghetti system, so its no wonder the problem was here
#screenshots message

[fluid sapphire]

yeah, i was actually considering that, but currently i dont have that many places luckily that actually have foundries

[shy mulch]

Yeah I started doing manifolds because it seemed like a sensible way to do things, I completed phase 5 before I looked at any discord/wiki/tools/guides etc. and manifolds just felt like a natural thing to me. It blows my mind that so many people need them explained

[minor rock]

builds 3 machines, done 😎

[sterile blade]

I can manage that, but just for one power grid https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1291194746101960714/power1.JPG?ex=687ae650&is=687994d0&hm=412bc10f69d94dc98b691fca4981c2709b189098de878afd905e8743599b4391&
The other still is "messy", dealing with geothermal, sinks, vehicles, particle accelerators...

[shy mulch]

I'll never achieve that haha my consumption vs max is like 60 GW difference lol

[fathom shuttle]

A single particle accelerator earlier was causing a 10,000MW fluctuation for me

[shy mulch]

Go big power then fluctuations won't matter 😄

[fluid sapphire]

thats OK, im really mostly just chasing stability for the things that can actually be stable

[median tusk]

do trees grow back?

[shy mulch]

no

[real wolf]

Rays?

[sterile blade]

Every time you start a new game, yes

[minor rock]

yeah it looks like pathtracing in CP2077 , i didnt get the same effect with max lighting

the grainy lighting in some places

[real wolf]

Global illumination

[minor rock]

yeah i did so 🤔

[fluid sapphire]

it's beautiful 🥹
#screenshots message

[sterile blade]

There do be some console commands one can use to tweak GI to their liking a bit (eg: reducing noise, increasing rendering distance etc)

[real wolf]

I changed the fog setting to 2x tho

[sterile blade]

Flat is justice!

First time I hear of someone increasing the fog 😆

[real wolf]

The fog is coming

The fog is coming

The fog-

[fluid sapphire]

granted, there are still fluctuations in 29.9MW increments, but at least i know those are my sinks

[shy mulch]

It upsets me that I can't run around and explore the other areas outside of the playable zone. Even if you could be blocked from building there, just to be able to go explore would be fun

[jaunty jewel]

let me rephrase: a phase 5, completed world

[sterile blade]

Throw them on a separate grid, so they can't pollute that beauty!

[median tusk]

Why is solid biofuel so crazyh slow to craft

[jaunty jewel]

of course pas quantum encoders and converters make that kinda impossible but

[jaunty jewel]

constructor

[real wolf]

Make them go on batteries

[shy mulch]

it's fast enough, just make more constructors

[fluid sapphire]

its too much work to build that grid since they are all over the place 😄

[real wolf]

It's slow cause it's a good product

[minor rock]

complete game , delete all , build 3 machine 🧠

[median tusk]

oh you can craft with constructor mb

[sterile blade]

Depends on wether the "challenge" allows multiple grids or not ^^
Ie: keeping machines with variable consumption on one grid, makes it so that the other can be flat so long as production is smooth

[minor rock]

its called being environmentally conscious

[median tusk]

forgot about that

[dense violet]

nah, just collect stuff in the world 🙂

[jaunty jewel]

most items in this game can be made automatically or semi automatically, keep that in mind

[real wolf]

plans out build in the head
starts building
build is to big
stops playing for 2 months
comes back and restart on a new save

[shy mulch]

just break it down into smaller chunks

[sterile blade]

Break it down into fine powder and use it for the next playthrough

[shy mulch]

I just finished a factory producting 21.25/m alien power matrix, took me like 2 weeks. When I planned it out I made a to-do list of like 20 tasks that would take me a couple hours each. Then just do 1 or 2 of those tasks each day. None of them were overwhelming on their own. When I finished my list it all came together

[past steeple]

I should have known that with my ADHD, stopping for 1 somersloop would turn into a giant expedition ending with 8 somersloops, 26 mercer spheres, and 5 hard drives

-_-

[sterile blade]

You take that back

[shy mulch]

Depends on context 😛
To eat, yum. To belt, no.

[shy mulch]

This is why everything takes me so long

[sterile blade]

You besmircher!
Goes crazy over a differing opinion

[past steeple]

insert radical opinion here to ragebait

[past steeple]

This all started with needing to go to my power plant for something, and now I can't fking remember what it was

[fathom shuttle]

How do I feed my machines without turning them on?

[past steeple]

Avoid the neck, chest, and legs

[terse kindle]

Is there no downside to overclocking power generating structures since they don’t draw power?

[past steeple]

They consume fuel faster

[terse kindle]

But otherwise no huh

[past steeple]

Correct

[terse kindle]

Awesome

[past steeple]

As long as you have enough fuel input, you can overclock all your power gen machines no issue

[sterile blade]

Reeeeeeee!

[past steeple]

⚔️

[terse kindle]

So it’s essentially just useful for reducing your footprint

[fathom shuttle]

With the pull of a switch I can no destroy my power grid

[past steeple]

Basically, ya. If you don't want to build a ton of machines, you can overclock them and build a fraction instead

[sterile blade]

Well, less footprint = less machines = less lag also ^^

[real wolf]

#satisfactory-memes message

[terse kindle]

Good point

[real wolf]

Cast screws or steel beam screws?

[fathom shuttle]

It’s time

[past steeple]

Denied, screws must be banned

Alt recipe out of all screws = happiness

[real wolf]

Screw screws

[past steeple]

Yall, I found a typo in the game

In the description of Ballistic Warp Drive, it says it is Project Part #11, but ADA says it is #12

[reef basin]

whichever you want/like/need more

[dense violet]

\most of the time you don't have lots of shards, at least early on

about it

[reef basin]

screws are very much fine, idk why people insist on skipping them for no reason

[terse kindle]

Doggos kinda broke my power shard creep I think

I have too many

[dense violet]

never bothered with doggos. too much time that could be spent on tiers

[fathom shuttle]

I’m now officially making 10/min nuclear pasta let’s goo

Only got 7 hours of battery left tho

Yea 7:31 hours

105GW peak

Jeez dude

I’ll let it run for a couple of hours since I’m not that concerned about the power consumption over a few hours

[real wolf]

I love doggos
Doggos saves ficsit
Doggos make earth great again

[fathom shuttle]

Man the particle accelerators are definitely my favorite building in the game now

Like they’re so fricking cool

[red sun]

doggos are a great way to dispose of nuclear waste

[terse kindle]

that's fair, it's my first playthrough and I felt compelled to try everything

they gave me sooo many slugs/junk for coupons

[edgy swift]

Hey guys, someone thinks I'm trolling and I am not I am just laggy

Now he's going to report me on reddit. How do I stop him?

[minor rock]

stop using ur botnet to ddos urself, and get him instead , winwin

[edgy swift]

.

[past steeple]

Maybe it is just me, but if Redditors don't want to play with me, it already is a win win

[terse kindle]

how?

[past steeple]

DOGGO ABUSE

[edgy swift]

Lets game it out? Is that you.

[real wolf]

You are NOT lgio

[boreal musk]

you know theres a slot when you tame doggo? if you kill them, it will removes that slot. you know the rest

[terse kindle]

:0

Evil

[fathom shuttle]

Apparently if you use the copper in the swamp + dune desert you can do 32.5/min nuclear pasta

it would require 1040 refineries 💀 💀

416 fully overclocked

[hasty cradle]

Why would you ever do that

Other than it looks cool

[fathom shuttle]

Idk I think someone was planning to do this in the discord

I mean if you think about it it wouldn’t be very hard

Just very very tedious

[fluid sapphire]

i cant believe i cant stack pipeline supports on walls. this is unacceptable

[fathom shuttle]

Like you’ll need 13 trains for this I think

[fathom shuttle]

Ceiling supports then stackable ones I think

Wall suport*

[fluid sapphire]

cant place the stackable ones horizontally

[fathom shuttle]

Anyone played timberborn before?

[reef basin]

yeah

[fathom shuttle]

How is it? Is it any good

[reef basin]

I enjoyed it

it's more like a colony sim, but I like that genre as well so 🤷

[spare canopy]

Satisfactory

[cerulean gorge]

a lizard dog just gave me a pulse nobelisk, what do i do with it

[willow dawn]

I am having one of those days where I had to change my plans on my new factory 3 times, pfft

Now I have a rail section I don't need

[knotty depot]

Since when can they gift cool stuff like that?

Also you should prob use it for repelling enemies
Best works with groups i imagine

[cerulean gorge]

i dont have a detonator or launcher, best i can do is strap it back onto the dog

[cerulean gorge]

gordon ramsey just gave me a slug

[sterile blade]

I notice now that I never used those on enemies

[knotty depot]

I'm still yet to even research those lmao
The regular explosive ones are fine for me

Might actually do cluster nobelisks because

1. those sound real useful
2. would be extremely easy to automate

[sterile blade]

Tbh, it's a pity you can't throw nobelisks without the detonator. After all, a detonator isn't the only way to make them explode...

[knotty depot]

I'm already making smokeless powder for rifle ammo and regular nobelisks so splitting some of that off for cluster ones wouldn't be difficult

[sterile blade]

It's not like you need a lot/min ^^

[cerulean gorge]

they also gave me a lot of circuits and modulor blocks

[knotty depot]

I wonder if you can shoot them to trigger the explosion?
I know ||spitter balls|| can blow them up, but not sure about friendly-firing them with your own gun

[sterile blade]

Spoiler: ||they don't give doggos ||

[sterile blade]

Gotta test to find out

[knotty depot]

Tested, shooting doesn't explode them

Tested with regular rifle ammo

hmm

WHOA

[sterile blade]

Different nobelisks also react differently iirc

[knotty depot]

Okay so the basher worked

[sterile blade]

So you could use the nobelisks you find if you could throw them without detonator ^^

[willow dawn]

You can't

You can't excuip it, needs a detanator for that

[knotty depot]

that's exactly what they said

"...if you could throw them without detonator"

[arctic spindle]

I just got the game and was skeptical coz I didn't really like the other 2d games in the genre but looking down at your base from the lookout tower is let's just say very satisfactory

[reef basin]

@knotty depot just fyi, the rates you've shown in #screenshots aren't exact. You can't make exactly 12/min with stitched plates

[knotty depot]

?

Anything's better than 5.769/min or whatever

[reef basin]

you either clock the machine to 213.3333%, which is 11.999998125/min, or 213.3334%, which is 12.00000375/min

[fluid sapphire]

it looks exact but apparently isnnt really

[arctic spindle]

wtf are y'all talking about

[reef basin]

some people consider that fine, some don't. So I just told you this to make sure you know it 😉

[knotty depot]

As long as it's close enough it'll probably do

[arctic spindle]

who said this game is simple

[knotty depot]

Thanks for the heads-up though!

[reef basin]

the ingame display rounds to 3 decimal places, so sometimes you may be off a bit if you're going of that. If you want perfect numbers, manual math is usually required

[reef basin]

I mean it is

[knotty depot]

You don't have to make everything 100% efficient
It's really satisfactory when everything is 100% efficient, but it's somewhat optional

You'll just have to wait longer to get anything produced in large amounts

[arctic spindle]

I feel like managing the clusterfuck is most of the work

[knotty depot]

Or you could get a slow yet efficient factory like my computer factory
Iirc it only makes 2-something computers per minute

[fluid sapphire]

if you do want everything to always run literally perfectly you can always make excess intermediates and sink the overflow

[reef basin]

or clock things

[fluid sapphire]

i thought we just established clock speeds are not always exact

im talking about literally exact numbers

[reef basin]

they are always exact. They just can't always produce the amount you want, which is easily fixable by changing the amount you want 🙂

[fluid sapphire]

which usually leads to rounded numbers somewhere in the production line so you end up either producing slightly more or slightly less than you need exactly, i am talking about having everything being provided perfectly for every step in a production chain

[real wolf]

Is efficiency more important than looks?
What yall think

[reef basin]

I'm talking about that as well. Pick a number that leads to no repeating decimals across your production

it's easier than it looks

[fluid sapphire]

im sure it is if you are fine with having decimals at the end, i like to produce whole numbers

[reef basin]

I'd say that depends on personal preferences. I'd like a nice factory, but I'm not going out of the way and making it inefficient for the sake of being nice.

[reef basin]

the fun thing is - you are producing whole numbers. You can't produce 1/2 of an item. The per minute number contains arbitrary picked time unit and if you change time unit, you produce whole number per minute (e.g. if you're making 2.5/min, you're making 5 per 2 minutes)

there's no practical difference between making a decimal and non-decimal amount per minute

[sterile blade]

... Kinda depends on the mood I have in the moment xD

[real wolf]

Mega factories or modular factories

[sterile blade]

#mega-gang

[fluid sapphire]

the fun thing is you can argue about technicalities and meanings of words all you want, in the end most decisions in the game are arbitrary, reducing amount produced to get nice numbers is equally as arbitrary as producing more and sinking excess

[reef basin]

megafactory basically requires you to plan your whole playthrough from start, which is one of many reasons I tend to not recommend them. But as with most other things, what you prefer is your choice and other than listening to my recommendation, you should follow what you want to do

[real wolf]

I like modular factories

[knotty depot]

I just realized that with how many modular frames i'm making per minute i'm gonna need 384 steel ingots/min for the versatile frameworks alone

[fluid sapphire]

i was just saying that my way is a way to do that, not that its the only way

[sterile blade]

After all, sushi is da way

[knotty depot]

i'm gonna need even more for the stators 😭

[fathom shuttle]

You only need 3.5k-4k for the entire game

So just allocate the resources temporarily

[pliant prawn]

whats the update today?

[vast raptor]

is there a way to mirror the hupertube branch

[reef basin]

#patch-notes

[surreal ingot]

What’s the difference

[true mulch]

you should be able to rotate it on both axes by holding CTRL and scrolling

assuming it works like pipeline pumps

[vast raptor]

doesn't work

[true mulch]

are you placing the branch first or attaching it to an existing tube/support?

[vast raptor]

i was placing it first

doesn't work on a existing hypertube too

[true mulch]

weird, lemme try

oh I have to download the update

[kind obsidian]

update is slow loading brew some cofee during wait

[true mulch]

already drunk my coffee 😭

[kind obsidian]

haha

[boreal musk]

mega factory is a factory that makes pretty much everything in one place

while modular is an independent factory that has its own production line

[surreal ingot]

Oh interesting

[pliant prawn]

that update was huge! I had to actually clear space from my PC lol

[vast raptor]

how do i change the way i go in the hypertube junction

[surreal ingot]

I’m currently trying to figure out mega factories for my first factory

[true mulch]

E

[vast raptor]

doesn't work

why didn't they make it a/d

[pliant prawn]

like go backwards? just hold S

[true mulch]

still looks like they haven't figured out the delta patching issue, the download is 3.65 GB for me

[vast raptor]

no i mean go left not right in the junction

i always go right e does nothing

[true mulch]

you should see a hologram indicating where you're going
as for why it's not A/D, we don't know and it seems like a miss by the developers

!wikisearch hypertube+junction

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=hypertube+junction

[boreal musk]

mega factory is incredibly hard to build, even with extreme planning, general approach is to spread out and build more modular factories

[vast raptor]

can i make it go right by default

and not left

[true mulch]

nope

[knotty depot]

what can i do with 12 iron rods/min?

apart from sinking

[true mulch]

that's nothing lol

send it to storage 🤷

[pliant prawn]

send to Quantum if you havent already

[knotty depot]

Just getting around to doing the artifact stuff, still need to get ||fluctuators|| automated

But that'll eventually fill up, right?

[pliant prawn]

yeah, then put an overload splitter on it and sink the rest

[knotty depot]

Actually i may be able to re-plan the input part of the thing to not waste any iron on the rods

[fathom shuttle]

You won’t need it until late game so I wouldn’t bother

Just hand feed a slooped manufacturer

[knotty depot]

fair

When i wanted to unlock slooping i just hand-crafted 110 of them 😭

[true mulch]

I've seen people complain that switching to controller input would make the game stuck in controller input with no way to switch it back to KB+M

I just tried this and the game automatically switched to KB+M upon the controller disconnecting

also slide jumping suuuuuuucks on a controller lol

[willow dawn]

Ugh I wish there was a way to change directions on belts and lifts when they are already placeds

[fathom shuttle]

Not really

Just need to be quick with it

[true mulch]

You have to awkwardly clench it to be able to press A and B simultaneously

[fathom shuttle]

I use my index finger for that, it takes a bit to learn but overall very easy

[left moss]

if you fall out of the world, do you lose everything you were holding permanently?

[fathom shuttle]

No it would drop a death crate on the surface near where you fell

[left moss]

oh thank GOD

[fathom shuttle]

Why? Lol

[left moss]

I have horrid inventory management and store nothing

i was holding like three mercer spheres

[fathom shuttle]

Time to research the dimensional depot then

[left moss]

and a dozen slugs

[fathom shuttle]

Wow I got 300 nuclear pasta already

[left moss]

wait you make that in the lategame?

[south sinew]

1200 of it yes

[left moss]

whats the in universe explanation for how its stabilized?

[fathom shuttle]

Pressure conversion cubes

[south sinew]

you make a thing that does it

[fathom shuttle]

Very advanced stuff

[left moss]

I see, thanks

wait you said its near where i fell right?

[dense violet]

It usually spawns at the edge near where you fell

better learn to have autosave on or get better at inventory

[left moss]

dammit ill load a save then

[fathom shuttle]

It has a map marker no need

[stray loom]

I love being able to disassemble the crash sites now. It's such a nice boost in materials early game

[dreamy scroll]

Also not seeing the same site everytime I wander by and thinking "Did I already empty that? Better check to be sure"

[stray loom]

That as well yeah

[graceful fox]

Hello guys

Are trucks still yank?

So they dont randomly just do a 360 noscope backflip because they clipped a foundation corner?

Like they used to do

[willow dawn]

Also it feels nice cleaning up those ugly crashsites

YAY! finished my aluminum factory! Everything seems to be running smoothly

I only changed my mind about basically everything 5 times

[fathom shuttle]

thermal propulsion rockets automated successfully

15/min let’s goooo

I can finish project assembly rn

I’ve been running the particle accelerators for the nuclear pasta for an hour now and the batteries are at 88% now

So I got roughly 7;30-9 hours of battery life left

[willow dawn]

Nice!

hmmmm guys... silly question... how do you go down the the hoverpack? lol

[fathom shuttle]

Shift

Or C

[willow dawn]

Nope that makes me go faster

yes C thats it! thanks

[fathom shuttle]

The same keybind for crouching

[willow dawn]

Silly, shoul have tried that too, tried almost all the other keys lol

[fathom shuttle]

How much are you making?

[willow dawn]

Not much, 60 Alclad sheets, 30 casings and 95 loose ingots that I don't know what to do with yet

[south sinew]

you're probably going to want more than that

[willow dawn]

But it's one pure node fully exploited which was my goal

[fathom shuttle]

Yea you’ll def need more scale lol

[green fiber]

thats once they have projects that need those parts

[fathom shuttle]

(Spoiler alert, some recipes use 100s/min)

[willow dawn]

Sure eventually but right now I don't even need any of it, just needed 100 alclad to get the hover pack

[south sinew]

yes fair

[willow dawn]

And everytime I asked how much I should make of things people tell em, depends what you need... so yeah lol

[fathom shuttle]

I’m gonna fully sloop and overclock my thermal propulsion rocket manufacturers for fun

[green fiber]

perfectly fine.
you can tackle the next aluminum factory / expansion once you have a new part to make

[willow dawn]

Thanks 🙂 Thats my plan

[stray loom]

Explore the world more! You can find almost every material near crash sites which can give you access to things you might not be able to make yet for research or crafting purposes

[green fiber]

Its usually better to start small with the new production lines so you can get a feel for them
aluminum especially is known to be treacherous for some

[willow dawn]

But it was my first ever aluminum factory and it was a big brain twister 😛

[fathom shuttle]

Aluminum is pretty easy

[green fiber]

There are 2 kinds of people:

[willow dawn]

I know but I really liked the idea of making it myself

[green fiber]

"Aluminum is easy"
and
"I HATE ALUMINUM"

[fathom shuttle]

You can make blueprints that are 2 stage, one for the sloppy alumnia and electrode aluminum
With two clicks you’ll be processing 600/min bauxite

[willow dawn]

To you perhaps, but this is my first playthrough so I am pretty happy with myself 🙂

[fathom shuttle]

Yea it’s hard to wrap your head around for the first time but once you do it it’s easy

[willow dawn]

I do understand that you are 3k hours further than me in this game but try and understand that I am happy with what I achieved 🙂

[fathom shuttle]

More like 150 hours lol

[green fiber]

let people play and learn at their own pace lol

60/min alclad and and 30 casings and whatnot ingots is a good first success

[willow dawn]

You've only played this game for 150 hours?

[willow dawn]

Thank you 🙂 AND it's 100% efficient

[fathom shuttle]

200 but 1/3 of that is afk time

[willow dawn]

Guess you are just that smart

[stray loom]

Running out of concrete and being unable to build another miner for limestone is some kind of cruel irony lol

[fathom shuttle]

Yea my iq is 500 at least

Particle accelerators are so cool I can’t stop obsessing over the animation and sound design

It’s like that gif of the kid looking at the rainbow cube

[stray loom]

Build trains that go through the loops. It's fun

[fathom shuttle]

I might do that for the diamond PA

I wish we could clip them into each other so that the loops go through the loops

[stray loom]

Should be possible with mods I'd think. I want to say I remember seeing one that removed clipping limits and I know Infinite Nudge can give you the rotation part to turn them

[willow dawn]

I love taking a tour of all my factories by train

[fathom shuttle]

My poor sink

Only 5m/min

1300 thermal propulsion rockets

[pliant prawn]

Magnetic Field Generators...AUTOMATED! WOO! Now to do Pasta

[daring stag]

hello people. Did the devs ever explain the presence of stingers in the game? don't get me wrong they are terrific.. they make explorating high level areas tense and dangerous and make it mandatory to work toward strong weapons and mobility. but why do they have to be that scary 😂 they're worse than the leviathans in Subnautica (that you can't even kill)

[lean ferry]

guys you know conveyor and hypertube wall holes can they only go through walls?

[willow dawn]

I disagree, the leviathans are 10x scarier

But I don't have issues with spiders so I guess it's personal

[daring stag]

well the leviathans are definitely scary but the stingers.. it's more repulsive I guess than scary

[willow dawn]

There are wallholes you can buy in the awesomeshop with coupos

[daring stag]

I use turbo fuel and homing ammo combo to handle them

[willow dawn]

Meh, they are just spiderbro's to me

[daring stag]

and enemy scanner. really afraid of them but I like that exploration is dangerous

[pliant prawn]

I've been jump scared out of my chair more than a few times by those things. I hate horror stuff and those ...things.

[lean ferry]

I bought them im asking can they only go through walls cuz it says "walls and similar"

[willow dawn]

Yes, wall holes create holes in the wall for your belts to go through

I guess similar would be window panes ect

[fathom shuttle]

Do you have PCC automated?

[lean ferry]

your not answering me im saying can they only go through walls

[lean ferry]

oh ok thanks now I get it

[pliant prawn]

not yet lol. Not sure if i'm going to start right away or screw around a bit

[willow dawn]

Not sure if the can go on the side of a foundation too, never tried but you could just place one and see what happens

[daring stag]

anyway I've been "soft-locked" in phase 3 for some time. do you have any tips? I was thinking of building big giga factories for each quest item, keeping it simple but wasteful. The logistics chain to build the space items are intense

[willow dawn]

How are you softlocked?

[daring stag]

also needing 10 different minerals/fluids in the pipeline

[daring stag]

I mean I'm not making progress. my factories are all badly designed and only output enough to let me explore and build stuff (alien depots). I can't really use them for the quest items

[willow dawn]

Yeah make new factories for the new items you need

Doesn't need to be one big one unless you want to

[daring stag]

like satisfactory calculator, put quest item as output, and build everything from endpoint of the pipeline?

[willow dawn]

And don't be afraid to kill your darlings if it doesn't work right

[willow dawn]

Yup 🙂

[daring stag]

nah I view them as code (I'm a dev). they're shitty, but they work-ish

better not touch them not sure what gonna happen lol

[willow dawn]

lol

Trust me, the second time you build something it is always better

Cause you learn and you get access to new things

That make things a lot easier

[daring stag]

like this bs is just making turbofuel and homing ammo : oh I can't post screenshots

[willow dawn]

But of course, it's all up to you 🙂 You're game so you get to play however you like

[willow dawn]

You can in the other channel

[daring stag]

oh yeah thanks

[fathom shuttle]

You don’t need to automate them until like phase 5

So just hand feed until you get there

[daring stag]

really

[half scaffold]

Is there a trick to pick up drops that are on a resource node and it won't target the drop? I have one that is sitting in the middle of the ground that I can't seem to target either. And another that I'm pretty sure is in the middle of a wall.

[daring stag]

I mean the adaptive control unit that you need 100 of. that's 100 automated wiring, 500 circuit board, 100 heavy modular frame, 200 computer

[fathom shuttle]

Yea, you’ll only really need to automate modular engines from phase 3, but that will only come in handy after you’re pretty much done with phase 4

[daring stag]

hum now that I write it, doesn't look that much

[fathom shuttle]

Use sloops to cut it down in half

[daring stag]

oh yeah I collected some of these stones but not really understood yet, seems they boost output like slugs

[half scaffold]

Double the output w/o affecting the input

[fathom shuttle]

They double the output at the cost of power

[daring stag]

damn that's cheated

[half scaffold]

The power shards increases the input by the same amound

So if the input was 100, if you drop 3 power shards on it, it would input 250

[daring stag]

so if you combo slugs and loops that's kinda op no

[fathom shuttle]

Yea, but you’ll be consuming 14x the power lol

[daring stag]

true

[fathom shuttle]

Can be dangerous when working with machines that use 1.5GW or 2.5GW

[daring stag]

I have enough outage already with my inconsistent fuel burners

[half scaffold]

Power Shards = Makes stuff faster/increases input and output AND power consumption
Sloops = Doubles output w/o affecting input or power consumption

[fathom shuttle]

How much power are you making

[daring stag]

3175 but dips to 2700 regularly, not sure where I have like 5 power plants across the map

sometimes I have a spike in cons. and some power plant has an outage then it goes down everything

[half scaffold]

All burners? No coal or oil?

[fathom shuttle]

Do you have batteries installed?

I assume oil

[daring stag]

I have coal and oil only, no batteries though that could be handy

[half scaffold]

Definitely drop some batteries.

[daring stag]

maybe I should use one of em pure petrol node in the islands

[fathom shuttle]

You should build at least 1 hour of consumption

[daring stag]

and put only burners on it

[fathom shuttle]

You should do diluted packaged fuel