satisfactory

[ripe elm]

Cause rn i have a iron plate and rod factory using 2 impure nodes at max overclock which is overkill but something like that for every item you need

[silk rose]

wont empty sites trigger it?

[fathom shuttle]

No

[silk rose]

nice i worried that ill need to dismantle sites id got open

so finally i see a use case for resource scanner

tf

[fathom shuttle]

It’s not the resource scanner

[silk rose]

oh damn it object scanner

is it

[fathom shuttle]

It’s in the mam quartz tree

[silk rose]

yes imma research that after building computer, and that quartz thing factory

that disk thingy

idk

ammo factory was hard i hope ill get there quickly

[shy mulch]

That's not overkill, you'll need more than that later on. But even then, there's still plenty nodes for anything you could ever need

[silk rose]

i dont quite remember but theres like 50k of iron in whole map so should be enough for everything

[fathom shuttle]

Is there a huge difference between the ficsonium requirement in the plutonium recipes?

[fathom shuttle]

100k iron

200k if you use the pure recipe

[silk rose]

hell yeah

[silk rose]

i thing you mean clocked and i mean default

so you are right bc miners are nearly always overclocked

[fluid sapphire]

if i want my train to really stay until its fully unloaded, what do i need to set it to

[shy mulch]

There's a max possible of 92100 iron ore per min, which can be made into way more ingots using alts

[silk rose]

nice

[silk rose]

there is setting for each station when you configure train path

[ripe elm]

But this is like for storage i hate like using factorys for other factorys

[fluid sapphire]

its set to fully unload OR wait 15 seconds, its the wait parameters tha are causing the strange behavior i think, but im not sure i understand how they work

[shy mulch]

You're going to have to have factories feeding other factories if you want to reach the endgame in a human timescale

[fathom shuttle]

I wanna do something crazy like 500/min HMF but it’s too much work

[silk rose]

i dont quite remember how that works, you better see some trains guide

[silk rose]

you dont want that

[ripe elm]

Why that cause if i want for example radio unit i can just make a new factory making everything right

[fluid sapphire]

well, i was hoping the question was simple enough for someone here to just toss me a simple answer 😃

[shy mulch]

You can, but then you're duplicating a lot of work, you'd create more machines to make items for that factory that you have already created elsewhere

[silk rose]

you can find very good help here but im not experienced enough

[ripe elm]

But its easier right?

[fluid sapphire]

functionally, currently its fine that it unloads literally like 2 stacks and then leaves but if all my trains do that then i will get traffic jams

[shy mulch]

Not necessarily, depends how well you have set up your transport infrastructure

[silk rose]

also eats more electricity

[ripe elm]

But it also takes alot of planning toen right

[fluid sapphire]

ah, yeah, well, im not too worried about power usage with the plant i am building

[shy mulch]

Planning is a huge part of this game

[silk rose]

you might hate power cons fluctuations like i do

[fluid sapphire]

i do actually, but trains will cause them anyway

[silk rose]

right

[ripe elm]

Yeah i know but in very bad at it

[fluid sapphire]

im just trying to make sure factories themselves dont have them, aside from the sinks

[shell lynx]

man what i would do for a crafting menu in my inventory itself

[silk rose]

first thing in game that does that no matter how good you setup it, than you can no longer rely on power graph to see if your factory is working perfect

[ripe elm]

But if i go with the plan of duplicating everything will i run out of nodes?

[silk rose]

youd go to modding server

[fluid sapphire]

im considering building internal batteries for my factories so i can disconnect them from the grid (to test). BUT i am trying to make sure i my numbers are good first

[shy mulch]

There's a LOT of nodes, but they are limited of course. Depends how much duplicating you plan to do

[ripe elm]

Like for every item you need to craft

[silk rose]

oh that sounds interesting but only for late game where fluctuations are at least 10GW

[shy mulch]

I don't think you've quite understood. Every item, but how many? 1 of each, obviously plenty materials. 100000 of each, obviously not. How much stuff do you want to make, and why, different things have different uses and benefits. There is no "best" way, you need to make these decisions for yourself

[reef basin]

*power storages 🙂

[ripe elm]

I have no plan of how much i just use the nodes to the Max i need and Then make the Max items i can out of it

[shy mulch]

Perfect

[silk rose]

hella big condensators

[ripe elm]

Why is that perfect

[shy mulch]

Because you're doing it the way you want to do it

[fluid sapphire]

well, yeah, im just using a functional term to refer to the collection of power storage units as a whole, i dont think there is much room to misinterpret here

[shy mulch]

There's a billion different ways to do things here, doing it the way that makes you happy is the best way to go, and it sounds like that's what you're doing, so keep at it

[reef basin]

on the other hand, I don't think there's a reason to use wrong term even if it's relatively common to do so 🤷

[shell lynx]

i cant really break these big rocks early game can i

[ripe elm]

Yeah true but my main goal is making a big nuclear power plant like insanely big and i wanted to know if i do it this way if i would be able to do it cosnidering i am using alot of nodes

[shy mulch]

you can when you get nobelisks

[silk rose]

deppends on what rocks do you mean

[mortal ginkgo]

I suggest searching reddit for "using max uranium in satisfactory".

[fluid sapphire]

thats just pedantic but sure

[shell lynx]

lets say its the side of a constructor

[reef basin]

I'm fine with being pedantic, because I know how many times things like these cause confusion here

[shy mulch]

When you get to that stage you might find you have plenty nodes, or you might not. If you need to delete something and rearrange, then do that. Depends on how much nuclear you want to build and how much of everything else you have/want

[silk rose]

power poll energy buffer

[ripe elm]

For me like 200-300k of mw power is enough

[reef basin]

*GW 😛

[silk rose]

no

[fluid sapphire]

i would argue that calling it power storage is misleading because it could refer to a single unit, which obviously is not what i am talking about, there's a lot of pointless ways to argue about anything if you really want

[reef basin]

then call it "power storageS"

[silk rose]

thats pure issue of english language

[fluid sapphire]

what a pointless argument my guy

[reef basin]

imo still better than calling power storages the name of a different item

[mortal ginkgo]

people know what they mean

[silk rose]

not much you can do here other than make new word like other languages did

[reef basin]

sometimes, sometimes no

[mortal ginkgo]

Greeny, this is why people find you annoying and why your "corrections" are getting negative outcomes.

Let it go. Let people talk the way they want.

[shy mulch]

720 GJ/h is better than 200k MW or 200GW

[reef basin]

especially people who don't speak english and use translators

[mortal ginkgo]

You aren't fixing anything.

[reef basin]

you aren't either 🤷

[silk rose]

nah measure in calories/hour

[shy mulch]

tbh I might just start using hp at this rate

[mortal ginkgo]

Thats not the point. You are annoying them which is backwards of what you are trying to do. You are contradicting yourself.

[reef basin]

Let people talk the way they want.
he says, not letting the other person talk the way they want

[fluid sapphire]

its just a misunderstanding of what i am actually referring to when i say "internal battery"

[mortal ginkgo]

Gaslighting me ain't going to work.

[shell lynx]

its possible to fill a storage tower bottom to up right

[reef basin]

if a few people didn't jump into every single of these conversation and try to talk me out of it, it would be a single correction with most people being totally fine with it

[ripe elm]

Thanks by the way for the help

[silk rose]

storage tower?

[shell lynx]

placing a storage container on top of another

[reef basin]

nor do I expect it to. But with your attitude, neither should you expect me to listen to anything you're saying anyway 🤷

[fluid sapphire]

when someone says manifold, you dont correct them to say "row of splitters"

[reef basin]

no, because row of splitters is what "manifold" means

[silk rose]

then just reverse conveyors

[fluid sapphire]

just as arbitrary as calling a collection of power storages an internal battery

[mortal ginkgo]

attitude of what brother? trying to stop so you don't hate farm? I mean you couldn't look at it more wrong so I will stop there. The problem is much deeper I understand now.

[fathom shuttle]

Filling up my plutonium fuel rods ISC would take 6 hours bruh

[reef basin]

"battery" is an item in the game - which is my point

[mortal ginkgo]

People understand what "battery as a building" is.

People are not stupid.

[reef basin]

not always

[silk rose]

wasnt there a meme saying you cant call everything a manifold

[fluid sapphire]

ikr right, this whole concept of explaining it is like, "people are dumb, i need to explain everything"

[fathom shuttle]

Load balancing the plutonium fuel rods would take 36 belts

[reef basin]

or you could direct input 🙂

[fathom shuttle]

Yea that’s what I’m gonna do no way I’m doing that

[mortal ginkgo]

I searched for "battery" and there is a RIDICULOUS amount of using the term instead of "power storage".

But I see NOONE getting confused.

People understand each other pretty well.

I think the problem is you think people are really REALLY stupid that they can't understand A from B. Life must be rough.

Also there is a mixture of people actually talking about the actual item battery too.

[reef basin]

no, I'm going from personal experience of seeing it happen 🤷 and since you didn't get my subtle and not-so-subtle hints above - you're not changing my mind about this anymore than I'm changing yours, so no need to keep bringing it up every time

[mortal ginkgo]

people can ask "you guys mean power storage?" too you know? they are not stupid that much that they can't ask if they are confused

I got confused when I heard the term "manifold" and "load balancing" too. I just searched for it and it was fixed in like 1 minute

[silk rose]

can i disable those 'press E to configure...' or 'press R to reload' hints?
only way i found was photomode thats not satisfying

[reef basin]

so no need to keep bringing it up

[mortal ginkgo]

I will, when I want to. Feel free to ignore.

[mortal ginkgo]

I didn't see any option for that.

[fathom shuttle]

I ran out of cables because I accidentally disconnect the wire and cable factory for my DD during the great dismantling

[shell lynx]

tbh whenever i see terminologies from other people i eitehr ask em wat they mean or look it up

[mortal ginkgo]

Yeah, I don't understand why he has to color himself "villian" and constantly try to fix people that is not needed or not asked for.

There is a term "Grammar Nazi" for a reason and at this point I think it is a fetish to keep going while getting constant backfires.

Like imagine me trying to fix people's grammer because I mostly try doing proper grammar stuff.

Life would be miserable for me and others lol.

[shell lynx]

eh people are combative for no reason nowadays

thats just the internet at this point

[reef basin]

the problem I'm talking about is not when people use terms that are unknown, it's when people use terms that mean something else. I've seen (and sometimes had) many conversations where people were talking tens of minutes about something, but only realising after that every person means something else

the classic is "pump" vs "water extractor"

[shell lynx]

that seems like a lack of communication tbh
feom wut i see here the terms he introduced are whats widely known but that dont stop either side to make themselves clear yk

[reef basin]

yes, sometimes you can figure it out of the context, but sometimes the question is ambiguous enough to not be clear (or even worded weirdly that the other definition seems way more likely)

[shell lynx]

still tho i think everyone can agree debating on something like this is quite wasteful

settling on an agreement and knowing more out of it is the best outcome

[reef basin]

I agree as well

hence why I don't understand why people keep bringing this argument up

[fluid sapphire]

i think the original context was clear enough

[foggy heart]

#screenshots any ideas how i can get a glass wall/roof/foundation to taper up like that?

[reef basin]

yeah, but my point wasn't to clarify context, it was to teach/show the user that clearer wording can go a long way

[mortal ginkgo]

some people don't like people that trying to fix people that don't ask for it.

you are not teaching people, thats not how a "teacher" works

[fluid sapphire]

alright, keep assuming that people are fucking idiots, nothing i can do about that

[reef basin]

that's... not what I'm doing though?

[foggy heart]

can anyone help ?

[mortal ginkgo]

I think problem is much deeper or it is a fetish to "fix people regardless of outcome".

[mortal ginkgo]

sure

[shy mulch]

Anyone likes fixing people, try fix me, many therapists have tried and failed 😄

[mortal ginkgo]

they could have said "play more satisfactory bro"

they are not good at their job, ask for refund

[foggy heart]

dont conform to the societal needs of others, nothings wrong with anyone, and thats the greatness about being unique

[foggy heart]

so... any idea?

[mortal ginkgo]

sorry, I am out of all ideas 😔

[foggy heart]

wtf man

[shell lynx]

i am sure u will find the therapist that resonates with u eventually

till thatdoes happen know that people do care abbout u

[foggy heart]

is there a way to angle the 4m glass wall? like angle vertically

[shell lynx]

and it doesnt hurt to open up to a friend or family member abt ur struggles and thoughts :P

[foggy heart]

or are custom verticle angles not a thing?

[shy mulch]

No, but there is a glass roof tile you could use instead

[foggy heart]

yeah neither are giving me the angle i want

check #screenshots

an 8m roof would be perfect

[shy mulch]

Hmm, sorry don't have an answer for you 🙂

[reef basin]

probably best to make a #1038092680493801533 topic for this

[foggy heart]

nah think im just gonna use the 8m concrete and cover it with lights if i cant use glass

[tulip orchid]

See if it'll let you put it on a beam or pillar at a jaunty angle

I know you can spin wall belt anchors on the small end of pillars to, Normal results

[foggy heart]

yeah beams will work but ig the 8m angle is what im looking for already, and also if i use beams i dont think i'll be able to snap a glass thing to it so it matches the angle

i think the beam method only works for rotation on the x and y axis, not z

[tulip orchid]

True, it might not let you turn it that way but it's still worth checking
I also wonder if you can't get a road barrier to go turnways

[foggy heart]

oh road barriers hate z axis rotation

[hasty cradle]

just completed the game. what should i do now?

[foggy heart]

start again and do a hand crafting only playthrough

imo thats how the game is meant to be played

all these machines just make everything too easy

[reef basin]

play a different game
continue with self-imposed challenge
start a new playthrough
go outside

pick any 😛

[hasty cradle]

i can make a no waste nuclear plant ig

i need power

[shy mulch]

Always need more power. Even when you don't.

[celest lichen]

consume all the uranium in the map 🙂

[hasty cradle]

yeah no

im not that insane

[mortal ginkgo]

he says with a 🙂 as if its a rather casual thing to do

the nerve

[vague burrow]

Do valves prevent backflow of pipes?

[willow dawn]

Buy yourself a cake and celebrate 🙂

[reef basin]

no

[mortal ginkgo]

yes

[vague burrow]

lol

[hasty cradle]

i bought a confusing creature statue

does that count?

[willow dawn]

Did you eat it and feel fullfiled by it?

[mortal ginkgo]

"The Valve has two uses:

...
Limiting flow in one direction only, thus preventing backflow (just like Pipeline Pumps)"

From wiki.

Just incase you want confirmation

[reef basin]

they only prevent backflow from one end of valve to another, any pipe section can still have backflow

and generally you don't want to "prevent backflow", you want to make it so that backflow doesn't bother you

[hasty cradle]

not really

[willow dawn]

Then no

[vague burrow]

I'm having an issue where I have 600 cubic meters of heavy oil residue from 15 refineries, and they're going from one end of the chain into another linear chaing of 16 refineries. It's not getting fluid consistently to the last few refineries.

[reef basin]

yeah, that's not a case generally solvable by valve

one of the most common recommendation is to loop the pipe - vertical loop is ideal

f.e. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1369442388077973535/1369480321401094194/satisfactory-cobalt_of_doom-pipe_manifold.png?ex=68799df0&is=68784c70&hm=4f853fc0b7e9e8f89f230657e5f195573cc937ae93df94cfaaa0007950813052&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1189&height=927

[mortal ginkgo]

put a valve after the 15 refinery line and then change the "manifold" pipes to mk1 pipes

the pipes that are going from main pipeline to refinery that is

someone said that fixed his issue

[vague burrow]

I think I found a fix.

I created a "loop" instead of making it a linear flow.

[reef basin]

yeah that's what the image above I sent shows 🙂

[vague burrow]

I didn't do it exactly the same.

[reef basin]

yeah well many ways to do it 🙂

the one I sent is most resistant to build and flow issues, but other loops may do the job as well

[vague burrow]

I kept the existing linear chain, but then I connected the start of the chain to the end of the chain.

[reef basin]

that's essentially what the vertical loop does, the verticality just pushes fluid down so "prioritises" the bottom feed pipe

[vague burrow]

Ah, so it's a gravity assist.

[reef basin]

yeah

[vague burrow]

Gravity Assist... now it feels like I'm playing Kerbal Space Program, ha ha

[reef basin]

if the pipes aren't fully filled, fluid will naturally flow to the bottom pipe

[vague burrow]

Is that also a good strategy for an aluminum loop?

[reef basin]

with horizontal loop, half of the fluid is sitting in the looping pipe, not being available to machines (which usually isn't an issue, but with some setups you may need that extra bit of safety and stability)

[reef basin]

if you mean feeding back the byproduct water, I'd personally recommend splitting refineries running on fresh and byproduct water

[fathom shuttle]

How well would a pipe junction work as a splitter? I have 3 pipes, 400/min and I want to split the 3rd pipe into the other two to get 600 pipes

[reef basin]

I'd personally leave them at 3x400

[fathom shuttle]

The grouping for the refineries doesn’t work well that way

[reef basin]

I mean you can change clock speed to make the grouping work

[fathom shuttle]

Just.. no

[shy mulch]

or manifold it 😛

how many refineries are you feeding with this 1200 fluid

[reef basin]

it should™ split equally, but I've seen many reports of it not working in some cases. And getting close to pipe limits (or in your case at the limit) requires special care to make it work, as any issue, no matter how small, will reduce flow with no chance of catching up (as you can't have more than 600 flow in a pipe)

[fathom shuttle]

I’m gonna use mk1 pipes for the split and valves for it

[reef basin]

since flow usually isn't stable, it can be that the 400 pipe oscillates between e.g. 380 and 420, which would be problematic for the merge

[reef basin]

that still doesn't resolve the problem I've spoken about in the message above

[shy mulch]

definitely something weird with pipes when they are at/near limits

[fathom shuttle]

If this doesn’t work, I’ll just redo the piping so that the refineries take 400

[reef basin]

I mean fair, go for it 🙂
(it's possible it will work for you, I was just giving you the safe and easy option 😉 )

[fathom shuttle]

It’s not weird, it just a problem of the rigidity of the 600 limit

[reef basin]

not really weird, just any sort of backflow or flow stopping can't be caught back up

[fathom shuttle]

Irl the pipe would go above 600 momentarily but would average out to 600 over time

[reef basin]

like if you have 500 flow in 600 pipe, and it suddenly goes to 480 for some reason, it can then do 520 and still average 500 over time

but that can't happen with flow being at limit

[fathom shuttle]

In the game you can’t have that, like greeny said any small fluctuations result in stability at maximum flow

[reef basin]

well irl pipes also have max flow

[shy mulch]

I have one floor of 56 fuel generators at 250% which should consume 583.3338 rocket fuel per minute. They are all fed by a single pipe that has a consistent 600 going in, the pipe goes round in a circle yet a couple of the generators at the furthest point from entry were only at 90% efficiency or so. I stuck a couple of extra connections in to make the whole floor a kind of mesh network of pipes and now it works perfectly. Before I did that, where was the extra rocket fuel going? It had been running like that for days

[fathom shuttle]

Yea this is the quickest way, but still it’s not a critical part of my factory so it’s whatever if the production is at 90% instead of 100

[fathom shuttle]

The flow rate gauge isn’t really reliable

[reef basin]

probably backed up somewhere

(although your "solution" works, I'd rather recommend making pipes as simple as possible, making a grid from junctions usually hurts more than helps 😄 )

[shy mulch]

4 machines outputting 150 rocket fuel per min each showed 100% efficiency and were using the correct amount of input materials to support that claim

[reef basin]

efficiency meter also sucks 😛

[shy mulch]

Yeah I agree, I was just getting annoyed with it though haha

[reef basin]

green light is the only reliable indicator

[red sun]

i believe i just got my brother into the game, he's not sinking his life into it (like he should be) but we're getting somewhere

it's a step up from it sitting and gathering dust in his library at least

[shy mulch]

I have so many games in my library I haven't even played

[red sun]

same tbh

[shy mulch]

I see something cool on discount I just buy it and forget about it

"I'll play that one day"
doesn't

[reef basin]

I somehow read it as if your brother was sitting in a library and catching dust

[shy mulch]

Maybe he is

Urgh. Work politics suck

[tawdry plank]

I'm annoyed I just planned out the whole aluminum factory and for the petroleum coke I need 1230/min or crude oil so I can't fit it in 2 neat pipes

Should I somersloop one of the refineries?

To not deal with 3 pipes

[fathom shuttle]

I turned on the factory

Power consumption is at 75GW wtf

[tawdry plank]

Wow

[reef basin]

better to deal with 3 pipes, than to be so close to pipe limit imo

[red sun]

normally i would recommend not slooping machines to solve problems but it's exactly something that i would do so i'd be a hypocrite

[shy mulch]

I'm caught in the middle of two managers who want me to do opposite things, and it's not physically possible to do both. I'm going to use the cobalt pipe of doom trick to feed them back to each other and hopefully escape un-noticed

[tawdry plank]

But now I oughta change my layout then

I'm gonna procrastinate that and go back to the aluminum part for now

[shy mulch]

procrastination is life

[red sun]

that's the way

[tawdry plank]

Don't tell ficsit that

[red sun]

in true ficsit spirit

[shy mulch]

Fixed my name

[tawdry plank]

That describes me daily

Still avoiding trains cause I'm procrastinating learning signaling

[shy mulch]

I order you to begin procrastination immediately, after you do this other important thing, and then think about it for a bit

[red sun]

it's not super tricky to be fair

[tawdry plank]

I just got icecream I can procrastinate at max power

[bitter mirage]

pro procrasitation

[tawdry plank]

Yeah but it's already made me avoid the game to not have to deal with trains

I'd rather do the 12k aluminum factory

[red sun]

path on junction entrance, block on junction exit, and sprinkle some block signals along your tracks every now and then

[tawdry plank]

12k aluminum a minute let's go

[red sun]

that formula has served me well up until now

[reef basin]

well at least it's a nice teaching lesson to think about logistics before placing down machines 😉

[bitter mirage]

12k aluminium with no trains ?

holy belt highway batman

[tawdry plank]

Planning? Who does that :)

I just plan the demand in modeler then figure out the layout on the fly

[red sun]

that's about the extent of my planning too tbh

[tawdry plank]

I'm not the best planner lol

[red sun]

if all else fails, build vertically

[tawdry plank]

True

[red sun]

if that results in lasagne spaghetti so be it

[reef basin]

modeller is the layout planner tbh

for calculations I'd use something else

[reef basin]

I mean why not? just build at the bauxite nodes

[red sun]

once i build a factory it's basically a black box to me anyway

[tawdry plank]

Eh I have all refineries combined and for pipes it's better to just plan in the moment for me

[reef basin]

still, for that planning I'd use other planners

[tawdry plank]

No belt highways all the factories are self sufficient

And the only factory that needs plastic parts is near the blue crater

[bitter mirage]

I suppose so huh, I didn't really think of that. In my brain I'd have to do all the bauxite in one location lmao

[tawdry plank]

Next to quartz

I just really didn't like trains in this game so I've avoided learning them by making new factories

[red sun]

i mean you could build roads and use tractors/trucks

[fathom shuttle]

A real mystery hits me

[red sun]

but i'd argue that's even more tedious

looks cooler though

[tawdry plank]

That's what I'm doing. I'm only doing the 4500/min bauxite in red bamboo forest and I'll grab the rest once I lay out trains

[fathom shuttle]

Why didn’t they add a way to make SAM in the game

[red sun]

i guess because it's supposed to be rare and mysterious

[tawdry plank]

But first I oughta learn trains

[red sun]

if you could just make sam you could make basically unlimited everything

[tawdry plank]

How much Sam is in the world total I think I've only found 4 nodes still

[fathom shuttle]

I mean it’s an automation game, it would be a fun way to use up a lot of power. Like people can build 3TW power plants but no way to realistically use it

[red sun]

i don't think there's more than like ten, maybe fifteen nodes

[fathom shuttle]

12.3k but the only real use is from the 2550 reanimated Sam you get

[red sun]

don't quote me on that

[tawdry plank]

The part that's making me also procrastinate trains is that I don't know how many trains to lay out to flow as smoothly as belts

[fathom shuttle]

Actually I think it’s 10.6k

[pastel carbon]

Put a train and use ISCs as buffers on both sides

It's likely the single train will be more than enough

[fathom shuttle]

I wouldn’t think too hard about load balancing the trains since you’ll need to redo the load balancing once you get Mk6 belts

[pastel carbon]

The buffers will take care of "smooth flow"

[reef basin]

simple rule of thumb I use is "one belt/pipe per one train car", obviously with proper buffers on both sides

then you just add another train if one is not enough

[red sun]

10.2k according to satisfactorytools

[tawdry plank]

For like 8K worth of bauxite going into the factory?

I'll prob need way more

[bitter mirage]

cargo size * stack size / cycle time of the route is a nice ball park estimate for how many trains you'd need

[tawdry plank]

The 4.5k is already at or around the factory

[fathom shuttle]

You can put on 2400 on a single train if the trip is under 5 minutes

[tawdry plank]

The rest I gotta train deliver

[pastel carbon]

Oh, you want to transport 8k/min bauxite to a single location?

[tawdry plank]

Central factory for all aluminum for the whole game

[pastel carbon]

Yeah you're gonna need a couple of trains for that

[fathom shuttle]

With 100 stacks, so if you had 500 stacks like you do with concrete you can get 10k/min from 4 cars

[tawdry plank]

This is my biggest factory in every metric to make sure I won't need to worry about aluminum ever

[red sun]

1. build train
2. not enough? return to step 1

fuck math

[fathom shuttle]

The aluminum is pretty close to you, use belts for the nodes in the red bamboo fields and trains for the others

[tawdry plank]

Math is scary

[red sun]

trial and error i say

[tawdry plank]

Already did :)

[fathom shuttle]

Tho I’d split it up into two parts since there is an oil node in the swamp that can handle the titan forest bauxite and swamp bauxite

[tawdry plank]

The red bamboo ones are already all belted

[tawdry plank]

I could just turn it into petroleum coke and deliver it with the bauxite towards the main one

Since I still want it as one structure for all the stuff

[fathom shuttle]

That would be pretty pointless, since you’ll already have lots of oil nearby

[tawdry plank]

I know but not enough

Even overclocked I need more oil than the 3 nodes north have

[fathom shuttle]

Im using the oil well and oil nodes for the aluminum factory + 2700 recycled recipes

[fathom shuttle]

??? Nah bro your math is all wrong

[tawdry plank]

Damn.

Wouldn't be my first time

Aren't they all normal oil nodes

[fathom shuttle]

Nope 2 pure and 1 normal

[tawdry plank]

Damn.

Welp nvm

[fathom shuttle]

Would take you 1230 oil

[tawdry plank]

Ez

[fathom shuttle]

It’s a 1:10 ratio

Make sure you use the heavy oil residue recipe first tho

The petro coke should be split up into 2 trains btw

[tawdry plank]

Already on my way

[tawdry plank]

Tbh I was gonna just belt it with how close it is 💀

It's literally less than a km away from the facility

[fathom shuttle]

That’s what I did, set up a belt high way for it

Do you know how to make a belt auto connect blueprint?

[tawdry plank]

Oh also did you guys see conveyor lifts can have unlimited height with the floor holes

Just put a floor hole and you can reach it no matter how far from the start it is

Damn I'll need to get a lot of copper too to the factory idk from where

[fathom shuttle]

For??

[viral tendon]

Oh have you not heard? I thought everyone had heard

[shy mulch]

I've heard, have you heard?

[viral tendon]

Heard what

[fathom shuttle]

Man what the fuck is up with this weird misalignment of belts when you use straight mode???? It’s so annoying like bro why

[shy mulch]

About the fish fish fish, fish is the fish, I say the fish fish fish, fish is the fish

[shy mulch]

yeah I only use straight when I want a nice corner, for actual straight I just use default now

[viral tendon]

What the fuck is fish, i thought we stopped at the thing everybody had heard

Have you heard tho?

[shy mulch]

I think everybody has

[viral tendon]

This server is oddly quiet for some reason, thought that wuold be big news

[shy mulch]

I am big news

[fluid sapphire]

Ikr, place supports down first, it's annoying but usually it works

I have noticed it happens more often if your belt is ending in a half meter increment

[willow dawn]

I sometimes switch to default for one section if it does that and go back to straight. It fixes the issue

I did hear they are going to fix that soon but honestly couldn't tell you were so no clue if it's true

[fathom shuttle]

Yea I might try that but ^ I use curve mode and rotate it once time and it goes back to being straight

But anyway, I have bigger problems than that because power consumption is at 75-76GW and only got 14-15GW free neo

And I’m supposed to build a 25GW nuclear pasta factory

Not looking too good lol

[fluid sapphire]

Time to cook more power

Close to starting my own plant ehhehh

Just gonna set up 4800 rocket fuel and be done with it for the rest of eternity

[safe rose]

I just want an opinion. More people here have more experience with satisfactory and coffee stain studios. Do you all think that CSS will release satisfactory on console before December 1st 2025?
Honestly I think it’s gonna release some time around sept/oct area is my guess.

[fluid sapphire]

No one here has more programming experience with satisfactory than CSS

[viral tendon]

No one here has more exprience about coding than coders

Every person who owns a house owns a house

[shy mulch]

I own my house. I know a lot about it. But I don't know anything about the house at the end of the street.
I'm also a very experienced programmer, but I don't know anything about the coding behind Satisfactory

[snow jewel]

facts

[safe rose]

Yeah that’s what I’m getting. I just wanted some opinions from people who have been around CSS and satisfactory longer than me.

[viral tendon]

You can't possibly know more about coding satisfactory than people who made it

[fathom shuttle]

No one knows but it should be pretty close

Maybe in 1.2

I really hope they do a big content drop as well

[fluid sapphire]

I'm sure they have their hands full as is

[viral tendon]

The might add more alt recipes more awesome shop items

Idk what else could they ad

Unless like a big update with world expansion where ficsit thanks you for completingj project assembly and buys new land on that planet with new resource or project other than assembly

[safe rose]

Thx bookie. I just thought someone here would be more familiar with their update timing and release timing and would have a more informed guess to when they thought it might be coming.
I know Mikael said they were switching to console port full force when they came back from vacation mid August.

[fluid sapphire]

I was always under the impression that the pioneer is a tool, is used to complete the project that's needed for something else, then discarded, left behind

Ficsit does not care about the pioneer is my impression

[viral tendon]

Well true

[safe rose]

Now THAT would be pretty cool. I’m only about 45 hours into my first play through. And I already know it’s gonna be awhile before I finish but I’d love to have more to do after it’s done.

[viral tendon]

Like i have no other idea what BIG content drop would be other than new project and world expansion

Because we already completed our main goal

[fathom shuttle]

The controller controls are done, and UE5 ports are “easy” so yea I think it will be in 1.2
They originally planned for console release to drop with 1.0

[viral tendon]

The only logical explanation to new machines resources etc. would be wrold expansion

[fluid sapphire]

Done? There is no done. It's all just a tutorial, the game really only begins once you complete all milestones

[fathom shuttle]

The only big thing missing from controller is the ability to name ports/stations so I guess they will need to make some sort of auto namer or something

[safe rose]

Yeah I play on Xbox with controller and they done a replay great job with controller support. It’s very easy to me to play with controller.

[fathom shuttle]

Yea the controls are really good, just need to get used to the shortcuts

[safe rose]

Yeah I struggle with not having a way to type in the game. Because without the Xbox keyboard I can’t search or name anything. Because playing thru GFN on the edge browser there’s no way to bring up steams keyboard overlay because if you press the Xbox button and the X button it opens the Xbox’s shortcut menu.

[celest lichen]

i know not everyone color codes their pipes but i really wish blueprint auto-connect didnt work with different colored pipelines

[safe rose]

I love the way they did the hotbar keys. Some other PC ports could really learn a lot from the way they done it. Like space engineers for example. The wheel is ok for that one but would work better like satisfactory ‘s shortcut wheel

[fathom shuttle]

What are you using?

[snow jewel]

How do you tame those lil blue bird dudes

[safe rose]

To type? Nothing yet. I just scroll and look for what I need. Or either I haven’t used anything like screens or labels or names yet. When I created my world I typed it into the search bar on the browser then copy pasted it into the create a save screen to start the game.

[fathom shuttle]

No I mean the device you’re using

[dense violet]

You don’t

[fathom shuttle]

Drop a bomb right into its mouth

[cursive crane]

Tame nothing return to nobelisk

[safe rose]

When I used to play space engineers a lot and needed it for scripts and coding I was using a usb keyboard. Thinking about digging it back out the box and plugging it back in again. Especially now that I’m getting into higher tiers either LOTS AND LOTS more ingredients and recipes. Need to do typing for the to do list and task notes. lol.

[snow jewel]

bet ill be back

[true mulch]

not sure how exactly GFN works, but opening the Xbox menu with the Xbox button can be disabled (it would break Steam Big Picture for me)

I'm still not convinced this game plays well on a controller (or better than on KB+M)

[safe rose]

I’m playing on series X they edge web browser on GeForce now. With an Xbox controller.

[fathom shuttle]

Ohh

[true mulch]

ahhh

[fathom shuttle]

You’ll need an external keyboard

[safe rose]

There’s no doubt it’s “easier” with KBM but it’s for sure playable and fun with controller

[fathom shuttle]

Any Bluetooth keyboard works

[snow jewel]

oopsie

[safe rose]

Once you build the muscle memory for building and snapping and all that it’s great with controller and works really well. I’ve got plenty of “spaghetti” to prove it. lol

The one suggestion i would love to see for a future release is an unlocked build camera. Kind like no man’s sky. Where you can do it close up or zoom out some so you can see a slightly larger picture when placing machines or belts. Not quite third person all the time but when placing machines would be a great help.

[fathom shuttle]

You have the hoverpack

It’s basically that but you’ll need to wait until tier 7 for it

[tawdry plank]

Alclad aluminum

I need copper for the sheets

[fathom shuttle]

You don’t need that many sheets

Just 60/120 for the dd

[tawdry plank]

Are there no recipes that need sheets

[true mulch]

(also alclad casing sucks)

[true mulch]

heat sinks

[tawdry plank]

Welp I'll still need a bit of copper I'll see from where

[fathom shuttle]

I had the same opinion until I needed to make 2k casings lol

[true mulch]

it eats a huge amount of copper for negligible gains

to the point where I'd really just rather make more alu ingots

[fathom shuttle]

That’s the thing I was confused about, but when you’re making a lot of casings you can save 400 aluminum which is huge in the grand scheme of things

[tawdry plank]

at a certain point with big enough factories you will need more casings than you have aluminum

hopefully i won't have that happen to me but we'll see

[safe rose]

I’m only on phase 3 just unlocked trains and signals. I’m almost done with P3. Waiting on the engines to finish and I’m on the last milestone of the tier. Unlock for blueprint mk2. Then I’ll be done up to phase 4.

[tawdry plank]

the hoverpack is a game changer

[fathom shuttle]

The game gets a lot better when you’re in phase 4, enjoy

[tawdry plank]

i cannot make my factories without it now

[fathom shuttle]

If you need anything just lmk I’ll help you out

[tawdry plank]

i put power lines below the foundation while making aluminum factory rn

[fathom shuttle]

I play on GeForce now as well btw

[tawdry plank]

ill have to leave the factory and go to a movie today do not tell Ada

i didn't ask for a permitted break

[safe rose]

Oh cool. Love the service. Been using it for free the last couple years and when they had the summer sale I upgraded for the 6 month deal. Hate they started the monthly time limit. Seems like the free tier should be limited and when you pay it should unlock.

[shell lynx]

as soon as i completed my iron to screws factory
the hard drive that i was scanning gave me cast screws recipe

so many hours wasted ....

[reef basin]

eh, the recipe isn't as good to call those hours "wasted"

[tawdry plank]

yeah it's a great recipe but it's not the biggest loss

you didn't lose material you just placed a couple more constructors

[shell lynx]

yea but silly ol me was manually farming all this time till i have my main 3 factories built

[tawdry plank]

i hope you didn't make a huge screw factory to send screws elsewhere

that would be a huge headache

it's best to make those resources locally, esp with how much throughput you need for how many screws it makes

[reef basin]

yeah, don't centralise screws (well personally I wouldn't centralise anything, but screws are biggest candidate)

[tawdry plank]

centralize rarer resources like aluminum

not necessarily iron stuff

or anything else tbh, maybe plastic yk

[reef basin]

not even those

[tawdry plank]

welp too late still making my 12k a min aluminum farm :>

big facility go brr

:D

[fathom shuttle]

Aluminum is ok to centralize imo

But it’s better to split it into two unless you really love trains

[reef basin]

we don't have farming, we have factories

and I was talking about personal preferences, so feel free to centralise it 🙂

[tawdry plank]

my brain is still on minecraft terminology mode

i just finished my guardian farm

#off-topic-media message

here

anyway i should really go to the movie now see you dudes later. remember the factory must grow

[south lion]

The factory is always growing

[green fiber]

Most things are hard to centralize because they are spread out all over after all

[clear aspen]

IM GONNA BE ABLE TO PLAY SATISFACTORY TOMMOROW

[tawdry plank]

watch play?

[clear aspen]

I meant be able to play

[tawdry plank]

:D

good game if i say so myself (unbiased)

just ignore i have 80 hrs in the last 2 weeks

lol

[fluid sapphire]

It's not even a game, it's a time machine

[clear aspen]

19 hrs in days

[tawdry plank]

most i had was 30 hrs in 2 days

i didn't even notice the weekend was over that week

[fluid sapphire]

I got the game at the end of September last year, a month later I had 300 hours

[tawdry plank]

you mean you had hours off the game?

unacceptable

[fluid sapphire]

Unfortunately yes

[tawdry plank]

ficsit only allows 15 second breaks a week

and that's so generous

[viral tendon]

Is that right

[tawdry plank]

maybe that's why ada says i got 1000 mistakes and infractions

[south lion]

I got like 40h in 4days

[viral tendon]

15 minutes a day

[south lion]

I have like 80h total by now

[tawdry plank]

too much breaktime who needs that

[viral tendon]

No one

[fathom shuttle]

240 so far (we will ignore that most of that time is me scrolling on my phone)

[south lion]

Yk how much u could do in 15 minutes

[fathom shuttle]

Ultimate brain rot activity

[south lion]

Too much time wasted

[viral tendon]

I played 435 hours since june 11th

[fathom shuttle]

Will take me at least a month to recover from this when I need to start studying again

[tawdry plank]

ha. you think you'll recover how cute

[shy mulch]

studying, ewww

[south lion]

Real

[shy mulch]

do what I did, it works better in the short term

[south lion]

Upgrade factory instead of studying

[tawdry plank]

if i had this game when i was in game design classes i would've failed so quick

self control aint my strongsuit'

[shy mulch]

I was at university for 3 years and was basically drunk for the entire 3 years solid, failed everything, got a fast car on a retail assistance wage, big debts, went nuts, didn't care that's what being young is all about. 10 years of fucking about before I decided to sort myself out, that was 15 years ago and now I'm doing very well for myself. Never worry about "I don't have time for xyz" of course you do, go have fun and do whatever you want

[tawdry plank]

Also don't abuse drugs instead love drugs

Easy

[south lion]

Exactly, never worry about paying taxes. Grow ur factory instead for ficsit

[fathom shuttle]

You see I want to build a good life early on so I don’t regret it later, my family is poor as dirt so there are no fallbacks for me

[shy mulch]

Anything in moderation is fine 😛 just don't get in a habit

[tawdry plank]

Brb doing DMT not in moderation

[fathom shuttle]

And I’m too smart to screw over my future self lol so I just don’t do dumb things

[tawdry plank]

Oh god psychedelics and satisfactory would be such sensory overload

[shy mulch]

at age 30 I was sleeping in my car, my gf was in jail
by age 40 I owned my own home and have a good life, multiple holidays per year
don't sweat it, have fun, there's always time for adulting shit

[tawdry plank]

Still prob he doesn't want his GF in jail but who knows

Maybe he needs a break from her /j

[proud leaf]

question if i delete the hub and then put it back in a diffrent place do the stuff i bought in it stay or do i gotta do it all again

[tawdry plank]

yeah dont worry

move it as much as you want

[proud leaf]

or is there a way to change its location withoutout deleting it

[proud leaf]

u talking to me?

[tawdry plank]

yes

just delete it nothing will happen

you wont lose any progress

or tiers

[willow dawn]

Hey guys, I heard a couple of people talk about packaged diluted fuel (or maybe it wasn't the packaged one) and I just found it in the hunt for pure aluminium ignots... should I keep it or reroll?

[minor rock]

haha good joke bro

[willow dawn]

I don't really see the point of it but maybe I am shortsighted

[tawdry plank]

you can get normal diluted fuel when you unlock the blender

if you want that one instead

it's better imo

you dont have to deal with canisters

[willow dawn]

Ok thanks, no idea what I would use it for right now anyways so will reroll

[tawdry plank]

it's just more fuel for each bit of oil

so you get more power from the same oil nodes

[willow dawn]

Might be good for later but I haven't run out of power or oil yet

And might look into nuclear soon...

[tawdry plank]

from later in tier4 or tier 5 the power demands can increase a lot

esp with overclocks and slooping

[viral tendon]

phase 5 you mean?

[tawdry plank]

it all depends what you wanna do first

[tawdry plank]

yeah phase 4 and 5 oops

[willow dawn]

I don't sloop a lot and I try to just make more machines unless it really doesn't make sense so I hardly overclock too

I am at the start of phase 4 now

[viral tendon]

Phase 4 doesn't need a lot of power, however phase 5 does

[tawdry plank]

it's useful when something asks for like 40 refineries or the like

[viral tendon]

Phase 5 needs too much power

[fallen moss]

Meow

[willow dawn]

My gods, that hasn't happened yet thankfully

[tawdry plank]

It's happened to me already with my aluminum factory

[willow dawn]

How much are you planning to produce?

[tawdry plank]

12k aluminum a minute

So all of it

To cover me until the end of the game

[willow dawn]

haha ok my factory is going to be a LOT smaller

[tawdry plank]

It's my biggest factory and it's not even close

But seeing what phase 5 needs I feel like it's better to have it all planned out now so I don't have to deal with aluminum again

Even without that you can get the 5 nodes or so in red bamboo forest and still make a 4k a min factory

[rustic hare]

hello

[south lion]

Y'all here talking about 12k/min while I haven't completed phase 2 after 80h

I didn't grind for the phase 2 tho until now

[tidal epoch]

same

[tawdry plank]

Don't worry I'm more than 150+ hrs now. My start was miserably slow

[willow dawn]

lol I'm not getting that much, exploiting one pure bauxite node

[tawdry plank]

It took me 60 hrs to even really understand this game properly

[south lion]

Yeah my start is slow af

[rustic hare]

that's normal dw, the first phases are kinda tideous, I'm on phase 3 @150hr rn

[willow dawn]

And don't worry I everybody likes to play this game different, I play it pretty slow compared to most cause that how I like it

[tawdry plank]

Phase 4 is when it picks up

Esp with the hoverpack being so convenient

[willow dawn]

Picks up in what way?

[tawdry plank]

It makes building factories much quicker

[willow dawn]

Ahh yeah, looking forward to the hoverpack

[tawdry plank]

The machines like the blenders and all the alt recipes are so useful that you can scale up very quick

[rustic hare]

I'm still waiting for my hazmat suit, found some drives and mercer spheres stuck in a pile of uranium

[tawdry plank]

I went hard drive hunting and got enough aluminum to get the hoverpack right at the start of phase 4

[tawdry plank]

I just run straight into there

With inhalers

I still never use the hazmat

[rustic hare]

I died twice that way

[tawdry plank]

This is the way

I just fly in, get the hard drives and fly out

[fathom shuttle]

Why would I ruin my life while I’m young when I can set everything in order before I’m in my 40s :shrug:

[rustic hare]

I'm like "yeah it's going to accumulate slow, I'll mine it so it breaks then I can enter"
MINING IT and getting it INTO MY INV was the WORST mistake my poo poo brain could have made

[tawdry plank]

Yeah no that's straight death

[fathom shuttle]

But anyway I made the mistake of connect the wrong set of smelters to the wrong refineries in my aluminum plant and it got all fucked over lol

[tidal epoch]

keep inventory is so clutch

[tawdry plank]

And the container is then irradiated too

[rustic hare]

then I proceed to run from the node forgetting there's uranium in my inv thinking running away would solve the issue

[tawdry plank]

That sounds like perpetual death with uranium in the inv

[rustic hare]

and that's how I died my first death lmao

[tawdry plank]

Me in my first 60 hrs

I should actually get that inv now it has 2 mercer spheres there

[rustic hare]

the game is so fun when it teaches you nothing yet you learn a ton just by messing up

[tawdry plank]

build factory, realize it can be better, destroy. build factory, realize it can be better, destroy. build factory, realize it can be better, destroy. build factory, realize it can be better, destroy. build factory, realize it can be better, destroy. build factory, realize it can be better, destroy. build factory, realize it can be better, destroy.

[rustic hare]

tearing my first factory down to rebuild it better with higher production rates, because I didn't leave space to expand

[tawdry plank]

My first death was laddering up to reach the manta, jumping off and missing the manta when it flew by

[fluid sapphire]

(Plan layout - tweak layout (blueprints) ) - repeat until satisfied -> build box around, boom ez

[rustic hare]

I also just got diluted fuel and residual heavy oil recipe, good stuff, but now I don't have enough space to build all the fuel gens lol

[tawdry plank]

Or just leave them open floating lol

[fluid sapphire]

I like my boxes

[tawdry plank]

I like seeing machines work

Unfortunately my machines do not work now

They will when I get back home and finish the aluminum factory

[fluid sapphire]

I can see them work, most belting is top side

[rustic hare]

btw once you got explosive rebar automated it's pretty much one of the best weapons?

[tawdry plank]

I use cluster nobelisks and nothing else pretty much lol

Big boom

[tranquil hemlock]

Wishing I could just blast a tunnel through these cliffs to send the rail through XD
#screenshots message

[tawdry plank]

And turbo ammo for the bug spawner thingies to kill em far away

[rustic hare]

I find them explode pretty slow for my liking

[shy mulch]

To each their own. I chose my route. You choose your route 😎

[fluid sapphire]

Also my boxes are quite open #screenshots message

[rustic hare]

also is the hatcher resistant to explosive damage? istg I hit it with 4+ explosive rebars until it died vs 2 normal rebars

[tawdry plank]

Better at making pretty buildings than me lol

I get more easily motivated to start a new factory than to make the ones I have pretty

[rustic hare]

atleast you still have a roof

[tidal epoch]

lol

[fluid sapphire]

Secretly they are all the same building

With small variation

Once I have a floor plan, the decoration happens quick because it's mostly the same steps every time

[rustic hare]

I usually space my builds up from the ground with the use of frame, then lay a 1m foundation on top of it as the base, that's my only design pattern so far

[fluid sapphire]

I just build floor as needed in whatever direction the plan is expanding

[tawdry plank]

My problem for the longest time was building too low and encountering a hill or a rock when expanding

Always annoying

So now I start from the highest rock in the field/area I'm building and make columns to hold the platform up

Decorations will be a problem for later me

[shell lynx]

how do u build stuff like this 💀

[dense violet]

just a bit of planning

[fluid sapphire]

Plan out how I want blocks of machines on the first floor, build more floor to accommodate, add pillars in corners, done

Upper floors just use space as is possible/necessary

Once the corner points are settled the rest is easy, just add stuff to line the edges, and add roof

[shell lynx]

i need to find a place with good limestone nodes

i ust got this one silly impure limestone node naer my base

[fathom shuttle]

I forgot that I needed making heatsinks bruhhh

And what the fuck bro I’m already down to 400 powershards????

The turbo motors factory took way more than I thought was needed

[fluid sapphire]

What's cookin

[shell lynx]

umm...
i need concrete because it lets me make foundations and alot of userful stuff-

also my milestones requrie concrete

[fluid sapphire]

Where you at

[dense bone]

How many stages does the space elevator have

[shell lynx]

ahem....
i havent even built the space elevator

[fluid sapphire]

In terms of location

[dense violet]

!wikisearch phases

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=phases

[dense violet]

the wiki is full of random things

[dense bone]

[mortal belfry]

what would be a reasonable amount of iron rods, iron plates, screws and reinforced iron plates to make?

[fluid sapphire]

I used to think like that - nothing ended up getting decorated. Now I do it right after I get a factory running, while I am waiting for it to fully spin up, since I am going to be in the vicinity anyway to babysit the factory to make sure it doesn't faceplant

[fluid sapphire]

I can tell you want an unreasonable amount would be

[dense violet]

dedicate a node to each, and go from there

of the basic parts

[tawdry plank]

If you're in the grass fields go straight south of the impure node and there are 2 normal concrete nodes

I used those at the start

[fluid sapphire]

If you're just talking about making them to use as building materials

[shell lynx]

i will go there yesh
i wanna work on copper aswell

[tawdry plank]

There's a lot of copper north of there too that's where my main base is settled

3 nodes near a crater

[mortal belfry]

wait how do i split 1 conveyer belt into 8

[dense violet]

down a line, with splitters

[tawdry plank]

A lot of splitters

In a manifold

[dense violet]

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[strange depot]

Is there a way to play this game from start to finish, without going overkill on items per minute?

[dense violet]

define overkill?
you could do 1 part per min on all the basics and eventually complete phase 5

[dense violet]

this is also a sandbox game, so... you're really only done when you're done.

[mortal belfry]

i feel like if i do that the outputs of all the spliters wont be even

[dense violet]

no real enemies holding you back, infinite resources, ect

[dense violet]

it self balances

[mortal belfry]

oh ok

[tawdry plank]

It balances out after a bit

Just give it 2 mins

[strange depot]

I have restarted many times over and always get stuck somewhere doing something unnecessary and burning out.

[dense violet]

when the first machine fills up, it'll over flow to the next and so on

[mortal belfry]

ok thanks

[dense violet]

an easy way to do the tiers
dedicate 1 normal or pure node to each basic part
have smelters on floor 1, constructors on floor 2, ect
expand outward when you get new belts
have containers between production lines
hook things up

it's fast, not too messy and you get where you're going

[real wolf]

#screenshots message conveyor lift

[wary parrot]

what should i do early game

[tawdry plank]

Grow your factory :>

[viral tendon]

I genuinely have no idea how do y'all have creativityy to do that

[tawdry plank]

Or do mam research

[wary parrot]

bruh what is that

[dense violet]

pick a miestone and go

[north iron]

my uobject counter sais im about to hit the "limit" of 2 mil, im scared to cross that

[tawdry plank]

There's a lot of great stuff in MAM

[north iron]

are there consequences

[viral tendon]

Remember to always build on foundations, mam is very important, hard drives are very important

[tawdry plank]

It's a thing you research stuff like the running boots I recommend get started early on that

[shell lynx]

mmmmmm delicious solid biofuel

[wary parrot]

ok

[viral tendon]

Oh have you not haerd? It was my understanding that everyone had heard

[tawdry plank]

To get a lot of QoL stuff

[wary parrot]

where to build the hub

[viral tendon]

Anywhere really

[real wolf]

i just put random stuff together and uhh

[north iron]

what??

[tawdry plank]

Anywhere you can move it after

[wary parrot]

ok

[tawdry plank]

Most important is to take it slow and learn things like ratios

read this it might help
https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Production_line

[viral tendon]

A well a everybody's heard about the bird bird bird bird-s the wrod a well a bird bird bird bird's the word a we ll a bidr bidr bidr's the word a well a bird bird bird's the word oh zappelfab you don't know about the bird ?? Ryancat gonna tell you about the bird a well a bird bird bird's the word a well a bird bird bird's the word a well a don't you know about the bird, well everybody's talking about the bird!

[wary parrot]

tysm

[north iron]

Thanks for the explanation 👍 !!

[viral tendon]

No problem twin

[tawdry plank]

Don't be afraid to mess up cause in this game you will build dismantle rebuild like every 10 mins

[mortal belfry]

how much smelters am i gonnna need to smelt 1920 raw iron/m ?

[tawdry plank]

Divide by 30

[viral tendon]

64

[tawdry plank]

Press N and divide

[fathom shuttle]

How do I see it

[tawdry plank]

The search bar has a built in calculator

[viral tendon]

If not overclocke,d if overclocked by 250% then 25.6

[north iron]

a mod

[dense violet]

many

[fathom shuttle]

1920/30=64

[rustic hare]

oh wait really

[mortal belfry]

thanks

[viral tendon]

What the fuck

[fathom shuttle]

Or 26 fully overclocked

[north iron]

what conveyor would fit that

[rustic hare]

that's such a nice tip lmao

[fathom shuttle]

Or 32 200% overclocked

[viral tendon]

Actually 25 because it will not be able to power 26 and will not have enough ore

[drowsy rock]

what do i do with the power augmenter

[viral tendon]

Fool

[hard ivy]

connect it to your power grid

[fathom shuttle]

Free powaa

[dense violet]

what does the description say?

[drowsy rock]

is that all its for

it has a input thing what goes in it

[fathom shuttle]

I definitely need it because I am 78GW/91GW right now

[hard ivy]

it gives you 10% extra power

[dense violet]

!wikisearch augmenter

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=augmenter

[hard ivy]

alien power matrix

[drowsy rock]

bruh

[fathom shuttle]

Idk how I burned through that much power and powershards so fast

[drowsy rock]

that thing??

[viral tendon]

It's like the endest game of game

[north iron]

rookie numbers

[north iron]

augmentors

and the bird

[fluid sapphire]

The calculator can even do modulo, it's that good

[drowsy rock]

when the aug menterws

[fathom shuttle]

Now that I have cooling systems, FMF, turbo motors and modular engines all automated I can finally make thermal propulsion rockets

[north iron]

lategame

[fathom shuttle]

15/min

[north iron]

after accellerator, put in birds before that

[viral tendon]

BIRDSS/???

[tawdry plank]

Most useful feature fr

[viral tendon]

Ah welll a everybody's heard, about the bird bird bird b-bird is the word

[north iron]

ye

[fathom shuttle]

Yea I’m upgrading it this week to nuclear

[viral tendon]

I have 2nd monitor so i'm fine

[tawdry plank]

Still convenient in the moment

I can keep the modeler on the side

[viral tendon]

It's estier just to press windows key and then calculate

[tawdry plank]

Or a vid

[fathom shuttle]

But this will need another power slug hunt because im out of powershards and the nuclear power plant will need like 700

[viral tendon]

Like a lot of things at a time

[limpid orchid]

Hi i wanted to ask if its a Good idea to build everything so that its looks good.

[willow dawn]

700!?

[tawdry plank]

Power go brr

[viral tendon]

When you'll need 700 power shards for power just get synthetic power shards atp

[north iron]

i ever only overclock miners

[hard ivy]

once power shards are free, there's no reason not to OC everything

[fathom shuttle]

Water extractors + the nuclear reactors themselves are 500 I think

[north iron]

obv

[viral tendon]

Hi, i'm ryancat, you know there's an issue facing many americans today that i know concerns a great numbers of americans. According to Gallup polls, one in twelve Americans is unaware that the bird is the word, i for one dream of an America where everybody knows that the bird is the word

[north iron]

but its cooler to have many buildings

[limpid orchid]

Im think i joined to early into this Server.... Nuclear Reactor????

[viral tendon]

Leave until it's too late

[tawdry plank]

Radiation go brr

Get irradiated with us

[fathom shuttle]

I’m not gonna be putting down 150 reactors and 300 water extractors

[viral tendon]

Like you're gonna get too much spoilers

[limpid orchid]

I thought i could be proud with my 5 Hours Play time...

[viral tendon]

Lmao

[tawdry plank]

You should be :>

[proud leaf]

i mean what can u spoil yourself in this game like yes it spoilers but its not like a story game u except stuff like this

[drowsy rock]

i have 8.5k power + 770-780 MW power boost and im only using 3k of it this is so peak

[tawdry plank]

But we got like 150 and some got 3k

[willow dawn]

I was thinking maybe I would get to nuclear this long weekend since I have 2 extra days off but I am starting to see I need to adjust m y expectations 😛

[proud leaf]

crazyy nuclear reactors

and other stuff

[fluid sapphire]

No one can tell you that, good is subjective and the level of effort you want to put into aesthetics is up to you in the end, I like to make stuff look OK from a distance but not too detailed usually, but if you're in the early game, I would say don't bother

[proud leaf]

btw i can't wait to get coal man

btw i heard end game of this game makes your brain melt and go back to the stone age

[tawdry plank]

Once power demands go through the roof yes

[limpid orchid]

Yeah thx, i still have to find my Way in with the Foundations. I didnt even place one in my hole World...

Is there also a Way to sleep through the night?

[viral tendon]

Yeah, phase 4 exactly

[viral tendon]

Ficsit doesn't approve sleep

[left moss]

hello when does power get automatable?

[fluid sapphire]

You'll learn as you go, don't sweat it, decent chance you will later delete most of your very early stuff

[hard ivy]

tier 3

[viral tendon]

Soon

[left moss]

thank you, have a nice day

[viral tendon]

Yeah tier 3 like kyo said

Like 5 hours in

[viral tendon]

Proud to say never deleted my early stuff

[real wolf]

#screenshots message idk how i feel about this

[viral tendon]

I'm just too jealous of people who have so much creativity and passion to make everything look so nice and clean

[hasty cradle]

I Just build on a big piece of concrete

[real wolf]

i have 608 hours

[hasty cradle]

No walls no decoration

[viral tendon]

Mfs are playing cool designfactory

[hasty cradle]

Only the confusing creature trophy

[viral tendon]

I just cover everything up with big ass concrete box

[drowsy rock]

should i automate bombs for the funny

[viral tendon]

That what ficsit approves

[hasty cradle]

Yes

If you get bored later you can nuke everything in sight

[viral tendon]

Make like 2 or 5 per minute of cluster bombs and you're done

[drowsy rock]

erm its gonna be like

[hasty cradle]

I need to automate nukes

[viral tendon]

Never even tried to automate nuke nobelisks because it fucking sucks

[whole drum]

You should automate and DD them so you always have a supply while you roam

[fathom shuttle]

850 coupons

[drowsy rock]

oooh true

[hasty cradle]

Its not so bad

[viral tendon]

I'm not making uranium cell just for nukes

[mortal ginkgo]

can I have some pls? blz.

[drowsy rock]

its gona be like 10 mins

[fluid sapphire]

I don't like the idea of secret garbage somewhere on my map

[hasty cradle]

If you have the recipe without sulfuric acid its rlly easy

Dont know what its called

[viral tendon]

I do but i actually prefer sulfuric acid one

[whole drum]

Even at only 2/m I never run out

[viral tendon]

I mean like i never had useless production

[hasty cradle]

Why?

[viral tendon]

Idk it's just easier for me, it needs a lot of water which is basically infinite and easy to acquire

[mortal belfry]

how much walls tall should my factory be?

[whole drum]

Yes

[viral tendon]

I used 2 recipes, not gonna make those cells anytime soon anyways lmao

[clever lagoon]

how do you guys keep up w the elevator requirements, its my first playthrough w my friends and we're really struggling to build these complex items. stage 4

[viral tendon]

Maybe

[fluid sapphire]

Well, sure, I mean like stuff that doesn't meet my bare minimum standard for aesthetics

[mortal ginkgo]

69

[whole drum]

What requirements do you mean?

[clever lagoon]

the items needed to feed the space elevator

[whole drum]

Oh, you mean the space elevator

[viral tendon]

I do them when i automate every single item that's not required for space elevator, so you can use your already done production for parts that are used in project assembly milestones

[fathom shuttle]

It’s time to build the loops

[whole drum]

Drones

[viral tendon]

Wooh, i was close to saying "for" twice in 10 words

[clever lagoon]

You've automated every single item?

[viral tendon]

Well i'm on phase 5, i automated almost every single item except the ones that are used for project assembly, didn't automate only one but i'm working on it

[hasty cradle]

Thats the point of the game

[fluid sapphire]

Ehhehh, that's my current plan, just siphon off enough from everywhere to make like maybe 1 project assembly part each, per minute

[fathom shuttle]

20 particle accelerators

[viral tendon]

Automated pasta tho

[hasty cradle]

Everything should get automated at some point

[fathom shuttle]

What could go wrong?

[mortal ginkgo]

you guys don't? o_o

[hasty cradle]

Youre power grid exploding

[viral tendon]

Well, set it up on night and you'll fine

[whole drum]

What you do in Stage 3 or so is start tapping individual resource nodes for specific production outputs, then ship those where they need to go for the next step via train/drones. Then you combine all those components into the more advanced parts, repeat, and build the elevator parts, then ship those to the elevator.

[hasty cradle]

What are you making?

[fluid sapphire]

I'm not concerned with wait time, easy to keep busy

[viral tendon]

Making 3 nuclear pastas per minute was a pure pain

[hasty cradle]

I Just slooped the conversion cubes and fused frames

[whole drum]

So if you have a single pure iron node somewhere, you can use a combination of advanced miners/power shards to find out how much you need to make a steady supply of reinforced frames, for example

[fluid sapphire]

It sounds like pain, at 1 per minute it only takes 16h40m to get 1000

[viral tendon]

Idk if i fused frames but i made them just enough for the whole playthroguh

[fluid sapphire]

I can start the game and be 16 hours in the future 5 minutes later

[viral tendon]

I mean if i slooped fused frames

[clever lagoon]

So say ItemA + ItemB makes ItemC
You have FactoryA which produces ItemA and FactoryB which produces ItemB and a train that carries items to FactoryC, finally making ItemC?

[whole drum]

Then send those frames to your production area for the next step, which should also be receiving other components from other resource nodes

Yes

[viral tendon]

Who uses trains for logistic

[mortal ginkgo]

Mods. This is the madman. Get'im!

[fallen storm]

A lot of people

[viral tendon]

Yikes

[whole drum]

I like drones better, personally, but that means doing more of the advanced steps closer together and running long, messy builts everywhere.

[viral tendon]

Only used dd's and belts

[whole drum]

Pure preference, though. I don't like managing train signals. 😉

[fluid sapphire]

Drones for low throughput, trains for high

[whole drum]

Which is why I do advanced production first, then drone them off

[fluid sapphire]

If it's as simple as a+b, to C, then you might as well ship either a to b or B to a, not 2 products to a 3rd location

[clever lagoon]

A lot of the more complex items don't need natural resources, just crafted items. Those types of factories can just be placed anywhere right as they don't have to be near an ore?

[whole drum]

So I'll have 3-5 nodes of basic production feed into a central hub for the advanced stuff, then send that out

[whole drum]

True, but some recipes are a + b + c + d = omg

[fluid sapphire]

I know, I was talking about this specific example

Of simple products

[mortal ginkgo]

I like some of them are so complex that I can't understand the visuals in Satisfactory Tools and I AM good at following visual cues. Kek

[whole drum]

Depends on your organizational style as well

[fluid sapphire]

That it do

[whole drum]

The concept is the important bit here

[fathom shuttle]

#screenshots message

[clever lagoon]

well I was thinking like every factory would be single purpose, only outputting a single item. then those items can be sent to various places which needs it. either way, im gonna give it another try, thanks :)

[shell lynx]

do i explore for reinforced plates alternative recipes or hook my screw factory with an iron lpate factory and make em that way

[fathom shuttle]

I’ll build the rest later, I ran out of FMF because I forgot to put a storage bin for them

[red sun]

i say neither. i recommend making your factories modular and self-sufficient; that is, make a whole new RIP factory

[whole drum]

An iron node can be split to produce everything you need to make reinforced plates in one factory, so that's what I do

[fluid sapphire]

If you're just starting the base recipe is fine

[viral tendon]

Am i the only one who don't use 2000 smelters or machines underclocked at 1% ??

[shell lynx]

prolly this

[whole drum]

It takes a bit of space, but it's more efficient than some of the alt recipes

[fluid sapphire]

Meanwhile me with 40 constructors at 25%

[viral tendon]

why

[fathom shuttle]

While I wait for the FMF to build up I’ll create the blueprints for the copper alloy foundries

[whole drum]

I don't worry about power that hard, lol

[fluid sapphire]

More machine go brr (also I don't have a power plant)

[whole drum]

Turbo Fuel go brrrrr

[rustic hare]

one use case I can think of is to future proof and pull it up easier as the need increases?

[viral tendon]

How is fucking power plant related to this

[whole drum]

Compacted Coal helps a lot too

[mortal ginkgo]

Turbo/Rocketfuel Enjoyers = Ew
Nuclear Enjoyers = Alpha males

[fluid sapphire]

Underclocking is more power efficient

[viral tendon]

Holy truth tsar bomba

[whole drum]

This

[viral tendon]

HOW

Ts doesn't even make sense

[whole drum]

It has an inverse curve to overclocking, which is fast but inefficient. So under is slow but more efficient.

[rustic hare]

I don't have turbofuel, or rocketfuel, or nuclear yet, fuel gen for now

[viral tendon]

Turbo fuel is used for fuel gen

It's literally in the name twin

[whole drum]

If your coal plants are still on regular, upgrade them to compacted (by adding sulfur)

[rustic hare]

ik, but I have yet to unlock it, which is why I'm using regular fuel man

[fluid sapphire]

Yes, overclocking doesn't linearly increase power usage, it's a curve, same applies to underclocking

[viral tendon]

How is it ineffecient, 2 50% smelters use the same power as 1 100% smelter

[viral tendon]

It's literally in MAM just unlock it...

[whole drum]

It's a ratio of energy usage to production per minute

[viral tendon]

I'm not following at all

Can you tell me exactly how

[rustic hare]

too lazy to then rebuild my fuel system for it 40GW is enough for now

[viral tendon]

You need 1 extra refinery

[whole drum]

1 sec

[rustic hare]

yeah but I made the mistake of packing every single shit together without space

[median tusk]

Yo gang

[viral tendon]

You're not really limited by space in this game

I mean yeah you are

[rustic hare]

I am limited by time if I were to rebuild it to gain more space

[viral tendon]

But not like you're using everything

[hasty cradle]

Dutch?

[fluid sapphire]

1 machine at 250% uses more power than 2 machines at 100% and 1 at 50%

[viral tendon]

Are you speedrunning twin

[median tusk]

Yea

[viral egret]

how early should i worry about logistic mk2? is it something that i should be using as much as possible?

[lean ferry]

guys why is my power tweaking

[whole drum]

From the wiki:

Overclocking is unlocked at the MAM. The clock speed of buildings can be adjusted by interacting E with it and adjusting the slider. Power Shards are required to increase the clock speed beyond 100%, up to 250% maximum.

Underclocking can be done freely once overclocking has been researched and costs no Power Shards.

Power consumer
Power consumers work at the rate of user-defined clock speed. For example, a Constructor works twice as fast when its clock speed is set to 200%.
An active overclocked building is always less power efficient. However, an idle overclocked building will still only consume the standard 0.1MW of idle power.
In the above example, its power consumption will be greater than 2x the usual power consumption. This also means a building at 200% consumes more power than 2 equal buildings each operating at 100%.
On the other hand, underclocking a building saves power.
Two constructors each working at 50% use less power compared to 1 Constructor working at 100%.
However, the footprint of the factory will be larger.
Power consumers that are underclocked to have active power consumption below the idle rate of 0.1MW will still use 0.1MW while idle.[1]

[viral tendon]

This genuinely makes 0 sense but if that's how it is yieks

[lean ferry]

I have more power and barely using anything but when I turn fuse on it just doesnt work and blows again

[rustic hare]

no but I have a life like I said, 40GW is enough for now, I'll upgrade when it's time, doesn't have to get the best stuff all the time

[viral tendon]

I mean ok

[whole drum]

When you unlock Overclocking, she tells you it has exponential power costs

[viral tendon]

Because when you overclock for 2x production ofc you'll need 2x power

[whole drum]

It's not linear

[rustic hare]

it's nice to have as your mk1 on pure iron nodes make mk2 belt speeds

[whole drum]

It takes more than 2x power tho

[lean ferry]

oops nvm I accdientally removed a cable

[rustic hare]

you'll need more than 2x, it's exponential

[hard ivy]

you'll need more - 2.5x

[viral tendon]

Yeah t his game makes literally 0 fucking sense

[mortal ginkgo]

What we mean is, it is more than 2x power. The power growth is not linear.

[viral tendon]

Thanks for explaining guys

[fluid sapphire]

It does make sense, its just how it's set up, you have to let go of the notion that the power usage increase is linearly correlated to clock speed, it just isn't

[vapid zephyr]

Power consumption is not linear in this game, it is exponential. Same with underclocking also exponentially gets cheaper to run.

[mortal ginkgo]

It is a cost of saving space if that makes sense.

[fluid sapphire]

Lol