satisfactory

[hard ivy]

with what?

[shy mulch]

Ooo that's weird. Why would it do that?

[jaunty jewel]

water

[hard ivy]

because coal power unlocks water

[ripe elm]

making it effecient

[tawdry plank]

shouldn't it unlock with refineries tho

[shy mulch]

Ahh gotcha

[tawdry plank]

in phase 3

[shy mulch]

yeah that would make more sense

[tawdry plank]

#screenshots message

yep phase 3

[prime jasper]

So tractor automatic loading don't work and that's it? Thta's a shame

[shy mulch]

also in my phase 0 save I can buy smokeless powder in the awesome shop as soon as I unlocked it in the MAM

[hard ivy]

I'd do this
https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=tnxkipezb2G9KwIfj2te
and probably skip circuit boards, and make more of everything else (except HSCs, 10 is fine)

[foggy heart]

it works for me

[hard ivy]

like this
https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=qOHt1yLKvxy83MBWfOUa

[willow oar]

I have lots of hard drives (+- 10), only used 1 since re beginning, scared to spoil them, I'm currently early tech 5. Should I use them, half if them, or save them for later ?

[foggy heart]

some of the early recipes you could get are pretty game changing, for the rest of the game

[foggy heart]

id say use all of them. they're very easy to get

[tawdry plank]

use them all you can just hold the drives and not choose one

since it removes those items from the pool for the next drive

you can hold like 20 drives in the list before you cant scroll to the last one

i also avoided scanning them at the start but some alt recipes like solid steel or cast screws are lifechanging

[reef basin]

Tools already give you efficient setup though

[prime jasper]

i found a fix on internet. Getting out of the vehicule, interacting with the docking station and climbing back into the truck to then press F fixes the issues. It's pretty weird but it works fine this way

[willow oar]

So I scan all if them, but only choose a recipe if I really like it ?
But can I redraw the others or I'll have to choose at a time anyway ?

[tawdry plank]

yep and you can keep the recipes that you really dont want so they dont go back into the pool of items

best use as many hard drives as you can cause as you get farther the pool of items gets larger

[dense violet]

what's not efficient about it?

[tawdry plank]

so if you want cast screws for example the hard drive might choose 20 other items before giving you that recipe later on

[shy mulch]

The only time I'd say it could be worth holding on to them, is if you're rushing to late game and want to unlock some endgame alt recipes, but don't want to have to find every hard drive. In that case it would be a bad idea to scan them all before phase 5

[tawdry plank]

yeah true but if it's the first time just take it slow and explore

you will find a lot of hard drives anyway through the hours

[shy mulch]

yeah 100%

[tawdry plank]

and for the last few you can just use the interactive map and put your save to find them

[zinc heron]

If anyone is interested in starting a new save, ive never played with anyone else but im sure it would be fun (im not super organized or experienced but i play most days)

[reef basin]

holding on the recipes is only relevant if you're looking for a specific recipe

[reef basin]

#1201555265942724758

[zinc heron]

Thank you

[tawdry plank]

there are people looking for groups :>

in every timezone

[rancid hearth]

How do you manage to stack buildings one on another ? Like, they're clearly overlapping

[ripe elm]

It van always en better

[true mulch]

which buildings

[tawdry plank]

Nudging them until it works

[rancid hearth]

Nah, I mean overlap them... Like place two nuclear power plant one over another, with just one rotated 90°

[hard ivy]

then mods or save editor

[dense violet]

english?

the plan seems fine you have to be specific

[abstract whale]

hi where I should ask help regarding constant crashes?

[prime jasper]

I think you should contact technical support

[dense violet]

Look up posts in #1038092680493801533 , probably the same thing has happened to dozens of people

[rancid hearth]

indeed, mods... Found the thing...

Does mods disable achievements ? To know if I should finish them first... x)

[fast wing]

I somehow turned on my conveyors to be in a straight line and they wont bend anymore, i forgot how to turn it off, help me 😭 lmaoo

[hard ivy]

R

[fast wing]

thank you fr

[tawdry plank]

man it feels so much better to make the factories once you unlock the hoverpack

i didn't think it would be this much of a convenience upgrade

[shy mulch]

yeah it's very helpful

what I like to do is when I make a massive foundation for a new factory is I put a grid of wall outlets on the ceiling under the foundations, so I'm free to hover around all over while building the new factory

[fluid sapphire]

you will wonder how you ever did anything without it

[eager tartan]

Is the stiched iron plate recipee better than th edefault one?

[fluid sapphire]

as a screw hater, big fan

[reef basin]

depends who you ask

basically, it boils down to what you mean by "better"

[eager tartan]

Easier to scale up

Rn Im oinly producing 10 plates per min, I feel like with this recipee I could produce much more

[reef basin]

that's also hard to quantify. Usually "scaling up" is just "build more" and not much relevant to the recipe

[tawdry plank]

yeah it depends on where you are. i used adhered plates in one of my factories cause i had some spare rubber

[eager tartan]

Get more out of something with limited resources?

Such as I can use iron node just for iron instead of splitting w screws and stuff. So out of one node I can get more out of it

[reef basin]

well that depends on what resources you have available and such 🙂 stitched plate replaces iron requirement with copper requirement (assuming other recipes are default)

[vapid zephyr]

Stitched Iron Plates are really nice to not work with screws and then use Iron Wire so you can still make then with just Iron Ingots.

[reef basin]

though screws are fine just as well (and you can use recipes to save on screw costs if that's what bothers you)

[tawdry plank]

still havent used iron wire once mostly cause i have too much copper anyway 💀

i got like 720/min copper going into my main base and only use like 360

or less

[reef basin]

I'd recommend getting rid of "main base" mindset 😛

[tawdry plank]

while my iron i used all nodes near my base

[vapid zephyr]

Issue i have with screws is that in large productions those will be the limiting factor with the amount you need. As a belt can go 1200 max, and i try to make my belt usage minimal in a factory.

[tawdry plank]

i got a main base for all the small parts and small factories for every other part

i still like having the essentials like plates, rods, cables all done at the main base near storage

just for convenience sake

[reef basin]

that's what depots are for

[tawdry plank]

yeah but i like having a main central area

from which i can make trains later to the other factories

[reef basin]

(and even if you don't have depots yet, you can build production elsewhere near nodes it needs, and just ship it to your central storage)

[tawdry plank]

so might as well

[reef basin]

eh, I HEAVILY recommend to not use central storage to feed other factories

[tawdry plank]

i got depots maxxed but i still like having storage ready

[fluid sapphire]

right. with screws you need higher throughput as you scale up, compared to wire, for the same amount of plates per minute - so stitched iron plate should be in theory easier to scale up with regards to belt capacity (someone light me on fire if i am wrong)

[tawdry plank]

none of the storage feeds into other factories

all the other factories are independent

and the overflow materials go back to central storage

just cause i like having storage and depots all in one place

it's pretty

nothing gets split or taken from storage and overflow goes straight in the sinks

it's just for the sake of having a nice central space

[vapid zephyr]

I have a factory that produces 30 Fused Modular Frame per minute. Just the idea of working with screws in that factory makes me shiver.

[fluid sapphire]

i can imagine. yikes

[hard ivy]

not to mention they'd make it much more expensive

[vapid zephyr]

Probably have not really checked the correct ratio of screw:wire i use

[hard ivy]

screws are only worth using for copper rotor. all other recipes that use screws are just bad

[tawdry plank]

screws only megafactory when

[vapid zephyr]

Even then the Steel Rotor wins for me, difference is too small to be profitable.

[hard ivy]

The difference in cost is not small, actually. Copper Rotor is significantly cheaper, especially with pure ingots and steamed sheets. But Steel Rotor is much more convenient to use

[vapid zephyr]

I'm an idiot, yes Copper Rotor is better

[tawdry plank]

there are tradeoffs but most recources are so abundant that you can sacrifice some more resources for a bit of convenience

[vapid zephyr]

For some reason i read over Copper and thought you meant the default one

[hard ivy]

If you're making a lot of rotors, Copper Rotor is definitely worth considering

[hard ivy]

Yeah, no, default rotor sux

[tawdry plank]

oh the copper rotor makes 3 rotors how did i never notice that

i thought the recipe wasn't as good as it is

[vapid zephyr]

Personally i like to challenge myself with only using iron nodes where possible. I have like the whole desert on export.

[hard ivy]

Iron only, default rotor costs 11.25 ingots apiece, and steel rotor 11.33. But only like half the machines. 0 reason to use default in that case

Same with default frame vs Steeled Frame. Steeled is like 0.3% more expensive but half the machines

[vapid zephyr]

Is there actually a really good default recipe that no one would change? I have for i think almost all items an alt i could use/prefer even over the default recipe.

[hard ivy]

I like default RCUs

Default SCs are decent too if you don't want to use bauxite on them

[vapid zephyr]

Oh that is a good one

[steady glade]

whats the point of alloy ingot recipes when compared to pure recipes?

[hard ivy]

I don't see any but some people like them for whatever reason

[civic ferry]

Look what I just backed! I cant wait to get it and open my goodies

[lofty forge]

no water

[civic ferry]

Satisfactory big box +factory cart block set!

[tawdry plank]

i've seen people use those in megafactories where they get all resources in one place anyway

[hard ivy]

Water is free tho

[tawdry plank]

since some of them are pretty good

[vapid zephyr]

No water or space restriction i would say. You need a lot of refineries for Pure recipes

[tawdry plank]

it's just inconvenient in most other cases

[haughty flax]

Is it easier in general to bring all resources to a central area for a giga base?

[steady glade]

similarly, is any of the leached recipes good? caterieum is a slight increase but takes sulfur

[tawdry plank]

not really it can be a logistics mess

[vapid zephyr]

Depends, do you like trains? Because you will use them a lot then, like a lot alot, like a lot a lot a lot

[tawdry plank]

better to make specialized factories for the stuff

and transport the results to a storage if you want

[steady glade]

maybe not all of them, but making a whole phase in one facotry is more doable

[hard ivy]

I might consider leached caterium for a nuclear setup (because it needs sulfur anyway), but otherwise nah. They just save refineries

[steady glade]

i see, thanks

[foggy heart]

building a train network is driving me mad. Do you guys just place your railways on the ground? or do you build a foundation for the track?

[hard ivy]

Foundation grid in the sky

[steady glade]

mostly on foundations exept for very short sections and connections

[grizzled lotus]

For freight platforms, they can only load or unload, but can they load or unload multiple items?

[steady glade]

technically yes, practically no

the issue is that if all items dont go, they back up

[crude canyon]

Anyone who wants to talk about a factory being clean and efficient? And Less about the looks

[grizzled lotus]

I'm trying not have a single freight car and a single freight platform for each item

[steady glade]

you should

[hard ivy]

I have one entire station for each item

[grizzled lotus]

for example, can I have one freight car unload copper cables and pick up computers with the same freight car?

[foggy heart]

Cant you just place a smrt spliiter by the station output and sink overflow?

[vapid zephyr]

Make a blueprint with train rails and junctions, some pillars i designed have space up top for train rails.

[hard ivy]

If you're fine with sinking some of your stuff, sure

[steady glade]

it will back up at the spitter or sink utemps unexpectedly

[true mulch]

foundation bridges everywhere to lay the track, dismantled after placing them down

but now that larger BP designers are available, you can blueprint those instead

railways on the ground always look horrible

[grizzled lotus]

yes

[foggy heart]

yeah i got some pillars but idk if i like how the track between pillars just floats

[grizzled lotus]

^it's what I do, and also seeing a train clip through everything is ugly

[steady glade]

you dismantle the foundations?

[grizzled lotus]

yes

[true mulch]

I said so in the message...?
I only leave some for pillars

[hard ivy]

They're horrible to drive on too. Always bend up/down/left/right

[vapid zephyr]

I have seen people make full on bridge blueprints for train tracks, you could take a look around to see if you like one.

[steady glade]

yeah, i was asking again because that sounds strange to me

[tawdry plank]

yeah and they can be easier to adjust/remove since you can remove the entire blueprint in one click

[grizzled lotus]

for me if I don't dismantle the foundations I run out of materials to build more

[foggy heart]

#screenshots gotta try find a pretty way to down there

[grizzled lotus]

If a freight station is set to LOAD and has two different items, but I assign two different trains for each item, will each train only take the specified item?

[shy mulch]

there's no need to run out of materials like that, just set up a very simple factory that produces the materials you build with and feed them into dimensional depot

[grizzled lotus]

For example a freight platform has rubber and computers, will train A pick up the rubber and B pick up the computers?

[steady glade]

yeah that can work

[grizzled lotus]

my dimensional depot is max'd yet, I only have one stack available and I still run out

I also don't have that many dimensional depots so Ic an offload stuff into it

[steady glade]

you just have to setup the time tables for bothh trains

[shy mulch]

time to hunt for some mercer spheres 😄

[vapid zephyr]

You can also look on https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/blueprints/index/index/idC/101/category/Tracks+system

[tawdry plank]

just add a second depot for each resource

there are a lot of spare mercer spheres so it's not like you will run out of them yet

there are like 100+ more besides the ones for upgrades

if you dont have enough mercer spheres but are already working on trains then maybe it's time to explore

i got like 20 unused mercer spheres rn after getting all upgrades

[shy mulch]

There's 298 mercer spheres in the world and you only need about 80 or 90 or so for the upgrades, so you can have over 200 depots

[steady glade]

you should upgrade in the order: 1 speed then 2 stack then 2 speed and 1 stack

[tawdry plank]

ah yes i forgot there were that many 💀

[true mulch]

#screenshots message

[tawdry plank]

do you guys use any somersloops for power or only for production?

[lofty forge]

both, have 1 augmenter and the rest is somewhere in the factory

[vapid zephyr]

I sloped the final step of Rocket Fuel production, double the power for just a couple KW

[lofty forge]

although i try to save them exclusively for fully overclocked space elevator parts

[tawdry plank]

i have like 15 unused sloops i should prob use them in the next factory

prob when i start making the phase 4 parts

[dense violet]

neither

[tawdry plank]

nuclear pasta will be something

[dense violet]

I avoid duping

[tawdry plank]

rawdog it

[dense violet]

I would prefer to build what I need

I don't see the point in 'play less' mechanics

[hard ivy]

Only for slugs before tier 9, then all 100 go into augmenters

[tawdry plank]

there are plenty of resources so it's not like you're lacking those. but still useful when you dont want 2 more machines

[shy mulch]

compare the extra power you get from that vs what you get if you used the sloops to build power augmenters

[tawdry plank]

oh shit why did i never think of doing that im stupid

i have like 100 power shards unused i could've added them in a manufacturer real quick

instead of handcrafting them

💀

[shy mulch]

when in phase 9, you can make synthetic power shards, then they become unlimited

it's not too complicated to make them either, which is nice

[tawdry plank]

and after that do you just overclock every machine

[shy mulch]

you can, but there's not really any point

[hard ivy]

Oh, and space elevator parts. I ain't automating those

[shy mulch]

more power efficient to just make more machines

[tawdry plank]

space isn't really an issue true

[shy mulch]

I only power shard miners, power generation things, and anything else only gets overclocked if I need to save space in a particular factory

[tawdry plank]

i need to get used to that cause sometimes i still build my factories too compact

and conveyor lines get messy

[shy mulch]

yeah just spread everything right out

[tawdry plank]

yeah but it's a hard habit to change for me

[shy mulch]

a common technique is to use a "logistics floor"
have alternating floors, one for just conveyors and pipes, one for machines, etc

[tawdry plank]

instead of extending a platform i tend to cram things into it when i shouldn't need to

[hard ivy]

But a 250% OC only costs 34% more power. When you have shards automated, there's no reason not to save yourself 60% of the building effort

[tawdry plank]

yeah i used it in my phase 3 elevator parts factory but it was so hard to troubleshoot that it's not worth the hastle for me

[shy mulch]

60% less fun if you love building stuff

[tawdry plank]

it's easier to see the whole lines from above and fix the bottlenecks as i see them

at least for me

#screenshots message

here's the factory

[grizzled lotus]

just to make sure, but the train and freight car arrangments have to match the train station and freight platform arrangement, right?

because the locomotive will always stop at the train station, and won't change its alignment

[shy mulch]

another way if you have the time is to do revisions, make a logistics floor but leave it empty
make your factory just complete spaghetti, don't care about anything except getting it working, make sure everything is good and producing what you want correctly, then one by one delete a conveyor and rebuild it in your logistics floor, when all are done, check everything still works, then revise again and replace some that you don't like, gradual improvements until it all looks pretty

not the way most people go, I think a lot of people here prefer to plan it all out fully before building, just offering an alternative idea

[tawdry plank]

i do like seeing the belts myself so i think ill just keep it flat (at least for this phase)

ill just improve as time goes on

[shy mulch]

that's a good start, maybe for the next factory you do on that kind of scale, try to make a new floor for each step in the production, and send the output upwards

[tawdry plank]

for stuff like the powerplants ill prob have a logistics floor once i get to nuclear and have a proper factory planned

[shy mulch]

brb need a poo

[tawdry plank]

verticality is still a hastle for me so i dont use tooooo much of it but i still did in that factory. all of the heavy modular frames are below it

[placid stirrup]

Manifold it

[tawdry plank]

#design-and-architecture message

here's the whole factory from the side

[tawdry plank]

maybe he prefers load balanced pooing

[grizzled lotus]

locomotives will always park at the train station, ri ght? it will never try to align frieght cars with their platforms

[placid stirrup]

That's how you get kidney stones

[shy mulch]

input buffers taking their time today

[placid stirrup]

That's what the coffee cup is for

[shy mulch]

I may overclock the next one

[placid stirrup]

You're a madman.

[lofty forge]

yeah

[placid stirrup]

Sounds like you might have set up your trains wrong

[grizzled lotus]

I wish I could just dismantle every thing and start over

trying to set up a factory for each item and another factory for end-products is tough

like, I just set up a factory for Computers, now I need to set up another factory for computers to feed the Adaptive Unit factory

[south sinew]

you can always centralise

[grizzled lotus]

you mean the opposite of setting up isolated factories?

[vapid zephyr]

You can kinda do that, pack everything up and move to another biome. Let production at your old base there do it's thing so you have materials and when you are done with your new home deconstruct everything else.

[south sinew]

yes

[grizzled lotus]

I did that in my first run and it was a big headache. decentralizing was much better tbh

[south sinew]

I dunno, seems easier to set up things once instead of repeatedly

[grizzled lotus]

I think I m ight actually do that. just ditch this and move to the nearby biome. I think I found the starting point for the 2nd biome very close

[tawdry plank]

yeah you can move to a biome with untapped resources and build the new factory for the new item rather than rebuild your old factory to acomodate the new resource

[grizzled lotus]

You'd think, but what ended up happening was I tried to optimize everything and there were belts every where. it was crazy

[lofty forge]

one thing i do is instead of -finishing- a factory, set everything up in manifolds and open spaces so that whenever i need more things i can just add more machines to it (and also have every building in a manifold-ready blueprint set for quicker setup)

[tawdry plank]

yeah but you have to be really good at planning to make a megafactory work without logistics headaches and conveyor lines crossing everywhere

[true mulch]

!wikisearch independency

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=independency

[shy mulch]

I love headaches

[leaden turret]

become <@&370483737957236737>, get weekly headaches when fielding questions about lizard doggo buttholes

[feral venture]

i wanna try something in creative, how can i give myself items?

[tawdry plank]

what.

[leaden turret]

https://archive.satisfactory.video/topics/environment/creatures/lizard-doggo/biology/

[shy mulch]

I'm only interested in their milk and associated milk products

[leaden turret]

cheese nobelisks for everyone

[shy mulch]

sounds crunchy

[tawdry plank]

this community is soo unserious at times

anyway golf gameplay when

[stray thicket]

Does the resource node scanner have a range now?

[leaden turret]

devs are too https://archive.satisfactory.video/topics/trolling/

[tawdry plank]

there's a reason i love coffeestain in general

[shy mulch]

I love this

[leaden turret]

notice how Mikael has gone offline so he doesn't have to answer any more questions 😛

[tawdry plank]

i mean it is holiday for them so i'd expect most of coffeestain to not be online rn

at least till august

[prime jasper]

We agree that if i made something outside of the blueprint creator, there is no other way to save it than starting from stratch and building it again in the blueprint machine?

[ripe elm]

how can i make a train track deliver plastic to my storage and a factory how do i combine tha

[boreal musk]

have 2 separate station each sending to storage and said factory

[ripe elm]

isnt there like a faster way or is that the best

[boreal musk]

its just less headache that way

[ripe elm]

aah true

[boreal musk]

you can set the timetable to have the train arrives at the factory first, but it needs overflow so the said train can send the rest into storage

[boreal musk]

but yeah, just do this one

[lofty forge]

do you mean 2 platforms and carts?

[unkempt blade]

did someone say carts?!?

[boreal musk]

2 platforms that only has 1 unload station each could also work, but i always limit myself to 2 timetable each train

[hasty cradle]

what ore should i use for ficsite?

[boreal musk]

just much more easier to manage them, especially when you have hundreds of them

[boreal musk]

easiest one is iron ore, but if you want to use SAM efficiently, use aluminum ingot

[unkempt blade]

Hundreds of trains is living the dream. I'm happy for you

[quiet gust]

Aluminum if you have a lot of extra bauxite, caterium otherwise, iron if you don't care about Sam effiency

[naive pendant]

If I’m remembering right just SAM + iron ore can make ficsite using alts. Kinda nice.

[willow glen]

More of a soft range limit, same as before. I think it depends on resource, not sure. I can see oil from 2km away tho

[grizzled lotus]

OK guys, I'm doing it. I'm packing up and leaving this biome, starting new. It's satisfactory's ng+

[willow glen]

Enjoy your new home! I think it’s about time I moved my HUB to titan forest tbh, my storage and HUB is an eyesore, and my build time is focused in titan forest

[hexed phoenix]

Don't forget to send a postcard!

[tawdry plank]

ill prob remake my storage and some of my base in the desert cause i need to redo a lot of stuff

but first aluminum go brr

[grizzled lotus]

huh, I forgot about moving my hub and space elevator

[tawdry plank]

time to press F and eradicate them >:)

[grizzled lotus]

only downside is how much time I spent building the railways

[tawdry plank]

now taht you mention it maybe i should move before starting railways 💀

[lofty forge]

are you going to delete your old factories as well? or just the hub and space elevator

[willow glen]

my plan is to just move the HUB itself and spelevator, not to tear down my floating platforms that upload to the dimensional depot quite yet.

remaking all that needs to happen first before that tear down can happen safely

[grizzled lotus]

I think I'll leave stuff as is. maybe in the new biomne I'll focus on building more advanced stuff like Computers and oil stuff. keep the basic stuff in my old home

[placid stirrup]

You can make improvements in your next playthrough 🙂

[lofty forge]

nice, whenever you need stuff maybe you could get them from your old base before setting up your newer factories, also you already have a train network built there so getting the other nodes probably will be easier

[prime jasper]

How can I erase blueprints saved? I have some that are clearly useless now

[tawdry plank]

you can press the edit button in the bp tab

and then click on the bp you wanna delete

[leaden plinth]

After completing phase 2 I left the versatile frameworks going into it for phase 3 but now want to move the elevator. What will happen to them fall on ground or stay uploaded?

[haughty flax]

looking towards making the phase 4 components, ive basically bulldozed my starter base and paving over it, turning it into a logistics floor, this games wild

[tawdry plank]

build factory, realize it can be better, destroy. build factory, realize it can be better, destroy. build factory, realize it can be better, destroy. build factory, realize it can be better, destroy. build factory, realize it can be better, destroy. build factory, realize it can be better, destroy. build factory, realize it can be better, destroy.

[mossy birch]

I am searching for a purple power slug which is approximately located at 2603, -2570, but I am taking so long to find where to enter to get it.

[grizzled lotus]

are there more than 4 biomes in the game? more than the starting regions?

[tawdry plank]

check the interactive map

[tawdry plank]

yeah about double

[lofty forge]

yeah

[tawdry plank]

at least from what i've seen

[mossy birch]

Well… I know where it is but no clue how to access to it.

[grizzled lotus]

what's the forest with the baloony trees called

[tawdry plank]

you can check cave entrances

[lofty forge]

cave?

[tawdry plank]

on the map

[grizzled lotus]

in my experience if there's a black spot in the map there's a cave underground

[tawdry plank]

the interactive map if you scroll you can highlight caves

[mossy birch]

Hm okay thanks. I will see now.

[lofty forge]

oh wow the wiki doesnt have a name for it

[fluid shoal]

can we have bigger server sizes? my friends excluded me ):

[leaden turret]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Multiplayer#Sessions_with_more_than_4_players

[leaden turret]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/World#/media/File:Biome_Map.jpg

[fluid shoal]

thank you

[lofty forge]

oh nvm it is technically "red bamboo fields"

[reef basin]

Build factory, never touch it again because rebuilding is waste of time

[lofty forge]

although red bamboo fields are to the left of that forest with the pink foliage for me

[grizzled lotus]

I'd rather not spoil everything

is the 2nd biome forest (forgot it's name) a good location to move to?

[leaden turret]

rocky desert has convenient access to all the things

[grizzled lotus]

is that the 3rd biome?

I forget the names. there are one normal forest, the cramped forest, the rocky desert, and the desert with big open fields

[lofty forge]

many resources that is also not that far within the area (unlike grassy fields), you will have to build most things in the sky if you want any kind of flatness tho

[grizzled lotus]

I'm in the rocky desert. I love it, but I have to move out

[vestal mica]

ICE raid?

[grizzled lotus]

yeah, verticality is a must. at least I have some concrete pillars

[haughty flax]

how many walls high do u make ur factory floors?

[grizzled lotus]

or do you mean building the entire factory on a big over-arching floor? instead of having multi-tiered minifactories

[leaden turret]

8 or 10, depending on whether building will have refineries

[sharp bay]

for me it depends on how tall the tallest machine on the current floor is

[grizzled lotus]

in my limited experience, I only build floors as high as necessary so they don't clip whatever's under them. ie, a floor for a miner and smeleter, a floor fo the constructors, and afloor for more constructors or an assembler

[sharp bay]

+1 wall just so it doesn't feel as cramped

[lofty forge]

nah i meant if you want giant floors on the same surface level/area you want to build things well into the sky, otherwise you are going to have to use lifts way too many times due to factory and the conveyors going on a 45 degree slope. or a stair like factory if you want it at the surface

[grizzled lotus]

hmm, I never tried that

sounds like a huge undertaking

[lofty forge]

due to the entire area being one giant slope

[sharp bay]

i like lifts

it looks cool

[twilit escarp]

Guys, i will start a new save on satisfactory, last time i played i stoped at coal ( sep 2024) and now i plan on going farther (i did played before and got much farther dw) now the question is, i always started on grass fields, and this time i want a diferent start (i know it is just a big map), so i will let you pick, what should i go for this time?

[lofty forge]

if you look close enough you can see elevation-lines in the interactive map (satisfactory calculator) you can guess just how much up-down that area is from there

[willow glen]

I like the deserts the best
Rocky desert has everything nearby, quite a great place to start.
Dune desert has lots of iron and not much else, but tons of open space! Makes building easy, but oil difficult.

[twilit escarp]

dune desert i noticed it also has few plants, so early power will be pain

[sharp bay]

it has a ton actually

[willow glen]

Not really, that nearby lake will last you a long while, and it has mycelia

[twilit escarp]

i am open to try a new start, so i let you pick

[haughty flax]

rocky desert

[willow glen]

Dune desert has a lake too but it’s more of a trek

[lofty forge]

much of the bushes on the ground pickable, you also have the very close but dangerous red bamboo forest just a few meters up

[willow glen]

Rocky desert

[twilit escarp]

alr, rocky it is

[haughty flax]

is it possible to get every alternate recipe from whats given on the map?

[twilit escarp]

and help me with a name, ~~oldest ~~saves are:
"checking 1.0" - last played on sep 16 2024
"lets check again" - last played on dec 27 2023
" test" - last played on apr 9 2023

[tawdry plank]

Yep

There's more drives than there are recipes

[reef basin]

Yes

[lofty forge]

rocky imo as well, coal lets you experiment with tractors and also lets you see what you can do with different transportation methods, also oil is relatively close and you will have the luxury of oil islands (imo best oil spot in the entire game)

[haughty flax]

kk

[sharp bay]

the beach right?

[lofty forge]

yeah

[sharp bay]

(for oil)

yeah it has the ocean on the west for building and sulfur and coal not that far away that you can transport with trains or trucks

[silk ocean]

Do Plutonium Fuel Rods last longer than Uranium? or do you folks just use waste and sink the rods?

[sharp bay]

(or just make a long and ugly conveyor line)

[lofty forge]

yup. i did it with tractors due to not having trains and being too far for belts

[lofty forge]

(that also takes up a whole lot of computer resources)

[placid stirrup]

I believe plut rods give twice the power of uranium rods, though you then have to deal with the plut waste. You can circumvent the waste product by having drones use the plut rods

[silk ocean]

Good idea, thanks

[lofty forge]

desert (you already did it). northern forest is not that fun to build in due to having to use foundations for anything that uses more than 3 machines (has a lot of resources tho). Grassy fields are fun until you realise that any node has at least 400 meters inbetween them and the closest oil node IS A WHOPPING 1200 METERS AWAY. ALL THE WAY IN THE BLUE CRATER

[placid stirrup]

It's unlikely your plut rod production matches drone consumption exactly though so you'll still have to sink or burn any leftover

[silk ocean]

Yea indeed, that's okay though, I don't mind sinking some excess

[willow glen]

Isn’t the Islands closer? Tho, not by much to be honest

[placid stirrup]

My plan when I start back up (almost finished with the nuclear plant) is to distribute the plut rods to every drone "hub" since they last so dang long. Only downside is permanent irradiation across the map lol

[lofty forge]

not really sure, whenever i scanned for crude oil in grassy fields it always showed the blue crater ones first

[sharp bay]

they're pretty much the same amount of distance

only differing like a hundred meters

[willow glen]

Ya I guess it depends on whether you build out west or east (or south) tbh

[sharp bay]

but tbh i don't mind building oil fuel plant from across the map since transferring power is easy

[willow glen]

The islands are a bit less hostile at least, blue crater rough early game

[sharp bay]

(we don't talk about plastic and rubber production)

[haughty flax]

hmmm, well the swamp is lovely

[willow glen]

trains are great

[sharp bay]

yeah but building them isn't

[lofty forge]

the problem is not the power, the problem is bringing oil products all the way back to your base or making an entire new wire circit board factory for the plastic and rubber

[sharp bay]

that's exactly what i said about not talking about

[lofty forge]

whoops i saw it a bit late sry

[willow glen]

I mean if you don’t mind being jumped by 5 large spiders when you think the coast is clear, sure. My aluminum factory out there killed me to build

[sharp bay]

i absolutely hate the swamp
fight me

[mortal ginkgo]

excuse me sir

[willow glen]

nah I think the swamp took care of the fighting part already

[sharp bay]

no i just hate how it looks

until i cover it with foundations ig

[willow glen]

I like the color filter but it’s so dark it’s hard to enjoy. But dang there’s some good resources over there in swamp/titan forest/abyss cliffs/dune forest area

[sharp bay]

my favorite area is the coral beach but the resources there are so scarce

[willow glen]

I started building batteries in titan forest and I’ve expanded (building other things) all the way into swamp lol

[lofty forge]

the swamp is mainly for aluminium and it doesnt even have coal nodes inside of it. you have to bring it from abyyss cliffs

[willow glen]

Yeah but building in abyss cliffs is a nightmare so I’d bring it into swamp anyway lol

Or blue crater, but I’ve built there too much, I’m tired of it. It’s great tho

[sharp bay]

i'm gonna have to either the swamp for aluminum or that place on the west of the swamp

it has coal but barely any tbh

[lofty forge]

lol i looket at the calculator and titan forest has two impure coal nodes. thats it

and both of them are on the edge of the biome

[sharp bay]

the main thing i'm concerned about is the aesthetics of the biome

i guess trains are going to be my friends again

i'll just run some coal via trains to the titan forest

[lofty forge]

can the aerial train railways (ground is out of question due to just how uneven the terrain is sudden drops/holes everywhere in titan forest) even work due to the trees?

maybe you can weaver inbetween them

or just build it above the trees (planning issues from not seeing the stations)

[sharp bay]

worldgrid

[lofty forge]

do you care about the looks

[sharp bay]

yes

i'll build it either to that side with 4 elder hogs or above the trees

if i do build it above the trees i'll decorate the bottoms so i don't end up with my average minecraft safe housing unit

[slender ocean]

is it wrong to ask for help in this chat?

cuz i somehow broke the hydraulic system in my factory

[lofty forge]

pump problem?

[slender ocean]

and i need some help

[lofty forge]

that would be better to ask in questions chat

[slender ocean]

oh ok, sorry

[atomic siren]

havent fully unlocked petroleum power, but got a super basic oil setup going rn. How many generators do I need to replace 12 coal-based ones?

[sharp bay]

12 coal generators produces 1200MWs of power so 5

but you can easily make more than enough for 20

for an absolutely basic setup

[atomic siren]

for 2000MWs?

[sharp bay]

8 is enough for 2000

[atomic siren]

and also how many pure crude oil things do you reckon I would need for like 5
or how many can I make with 2 pure crude oil nodes

[sharp bay]

hol on lemme do the math since i only really do turbo fuel

(i skip normal fuel)

[atomic siren]

alr i aint on that level yet haha

[sharp bay]

it's just basic stuff (just requires alot of alt recipes)

[vestal mica]

assuming no overclock, 12 is 900 MW. so 3.6 fuel generators at 100% or 250MW

[sharp bay]

if my math is right you need 400/minute for 20 generators

[sharp bay]

oh right

bad math
mb

[fluid sapphire]

if you are thinking about making power using regular fuel from 2 pure oil nodes, i would recommend you reconsider and wait until you can make better fuel

its a lot of effort when you could get more power later for the same effort

[sharp bay]

it's fairly simple to turn oil into fuel for temporary power before that tbh

[atomic siren]

well I wanted to just get some extra power alongside my coal setup that's lacking a bit. There is a bunch more oil within like 200-300m from those 2, so I can definitely just build a few pipes if needed

[sharp bay]

ok back to the fuel stuff
do you have the mk2 pipes?

[fluid sapphire]

that\s fair

[atomic siren]

not yet but i can unlock it

[sharp bay]

you should get it if you want 20 fuel generators because you need 600 oil/minute for that

(with the basic recipes)

[atomic siren]

ah okay

[sharp bay]

or you can manage the pipes

300oil for 5 refineries and 300oil for the other 5

[atomic siren]

ok will do that asap

how many oil nodes do I need for 20 fuel gens?

[sharp bay]

depends on the purity

you'll probably need pure nodes for this anyway since the pure node only gives 240/minute

[atomic siren]

3 pure 2 normal 1 impure

not amazing

[dense lodge]

guys can anyone help me im having trouble bringing fuel to the generators because it just doesnt get in the pipes and flows backwards somehow

[sharp bay]

that's good enough

[tawdry plank]

Did you try filling the pipes before turning on the generators

[sharp bay]

you're building the blue crater

[tawdry plank]

To stop sloshing and backflow

[dense lodge]

its kinda hard because i also have some industrial fluid buffers but no i didnt

[tawdry plank]

Try that first it might fix it

[dense lodge]

ok i will

thx

[atomic siren]

for 20?

[sharp bay]

yea you need 600 crude oil/minute

[atomic siren]

oh nice

so I just build a ton of generators and balance them across the 6 oil nodes somehow

[sharp bay]

just overclock 2 pure nodes

are you confusing the production rates of the oil extractor?

it produces twice as much compared to ore nodes

[atomic siren]

oh okay got me confused yeah

so I just need 2 (fully?) overclocked extractors over the 2 nodes for 10 generators/node?

[sharp bay]

not fully overclocked

[sharp bay]

pretty much

or you can run some of the normal nodes nearby to make it 300 without overclocking if you want

[atomic siren]

ah ok I think I have some extra power slugs

[grizzled lotus]

can I install a hypertube junction to a hypertube cannon, so I can use just that one cannon to go whichever direction I want?

also, I just found a really weird entirely red forest

[sharp bay]

if you have superhuman reaction speed

or somehow spam the E button fast enough

[grizzled lotus]

I can't just hold left or right? never used a junction before

[sharp bay]

ooh i actually never tried holding it before

try it

[silk ocean]

You can certainly hold A/D in a train to switch the points ahead, as long as you do it far enough in advance

[bitter flicker]

is there any recommendation of items to just sink to get coupons? i just unlocked tier 8 now and i currently need 320k points for next coupon

[grizzled lotus]

wow

Dear Satisfactory team; how is there NOT an AWESOME Coupon Catalog to see how much I can get for each item?

[tawdry plank]

Ada is scamming us FR

[sick umbra]

Are geothermal generators worth it?

[tawdry plank]

They fluctuate a lot

[sick umbra]

Im seeing that

Thats why im askinh

[sharp bay]

geothermals are just free energy
they're not even that expensive so i'd say why not

[tawdry plank]

Only used them for crashed ships myself

[silk ocean]

Fluctuation is fine though, can always use energy storage

[tawdry plank]

To power them up

[sharp bay]

just don't rely on them for power

[spark ruin]

their power output isnt very significant
but its practically free, so go for it i guess
(the machines also look really nice)

[tawdry plank]

It's fine but keep in mind they're not consistent

[tawdry plank]

The sound effects are so good

[sharp bay]

cool things = get it

[silk ocean]

Bu boom boom boom

[sick umbra]

I might have a differant power line from my main for them, just to power unimportant stuff

[sharp bay]

i have a powerline weave

[sick umbra]

whats that?

[silk ocean]

I've opted for the powergen solution where if it ever trips, I may as well nuke the entire factory from space XD

[sharp bay]

a weave made of powerlines

[sharp bay]

(aka a mess)

[sick umbra]

Like the convayer weave?-

[sharp bay]

yuh but less beautiful

[sick umbra]

I see

[golden karma]

if regular NFU or fertile uranium (diverted raw uranium) better for full nuclear power in total yield?
i can see that it yields more NFU if you use fertile uranium but does that tradeoff give you more power through increased plutonium/ficsonium output?

[sick umbra]

Theres a dissmantle crate i cant pickup here ;-;

[silk ocean]

Can you sink Plutonium Pellets?

[gaunt gyro]

Anyone ever had blueprints that build invisbly? I place it, I don't see it, but I collide with it. If I log out/back in I can see it, but then I can't delete it as a blueprint, I have to do it manually.

[tawdry plank]

You can remove it with the interactive map if you can't reach the crate

[spice patio]

No.
Any Uranium items until Uranium Fuel rods.
And then only Plutonium Fuel Rods.

[tawdry plank]

Just upload your save and edit the crate out

[silk ocean]

Thanks

[spice patio]

Any radioactive items between those two fuel rods, and after Plutonium rods aren't sinkable.

[silk ocean]

Gotcha 👍

[sick umbra]

The ingame map?

[tawdry plank]

The interactive map site

Search scim

[sick umbra]

How do i upload my save?

[tawdry plank]

It's in app data/ local /factory game

And just drag and drop your save

It shows you the exact file location on the site

[lilac venture]

Heya, Anyone have any idea how i can increase player count in my local game?

[hasty cradle]

2 hours in phase 5 and my power grid is already crying

[lilac venture]

i want to up it from 4 to 6

[hasty cradle]

Is it worth it to get nuclear power in phase 5?

I already have the ficsonium recipe unlocked

[sharp bay]

if you really want to

you can build a huge rocket fuel power plant (maybe even do it twice) if you want to aswell

[tawdry plank]

Me every other phase

Phase 3 my power shut down instantly

[hasty cradle]

I am already making like 37.5 GW from rocket fuel and 25 GW from uranium fuel rods

[sharp bay]

that's why the first thing i do everytime i unlock a new phase is MORE POWER

[reef basin]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Multiplayer#Sessions_with_more_than_4_players

[hasty cradle]

I thought i was good with 40 gw left

[sharp bay]

there's never enough

[hasty cradle]

But all the particle accelerators and those quantum things Just eat power like crazy

[sick umbra]

I cant figure it out 😞

[hasty cradle]

I think im gonna aim for 150 GW Total power

[lofty forge]

"drop save file here"

[tawdry plank]

Just win+R %localappdata%

And open factory game

[lofty forge]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map#5.25;100819;36506|gameLayer|;bauxiteImpure;bauxiteNormal;bauxitePure;coalImpure;coalNormal;coalPure;oilImpure;oilNormal;oilPure;sulfurPure;sulfurNormal;sulfurImpure;cateriumNormal;cateriumPure;copperNormal;copperImpure;ironNormal;ironPure;ironImpure;limestonePure;limestoneNormal;limestoneImpure;quartzPure;quartzNormal;quartzImpure;uraniumImpure;uraniumNormal;samPure;samNormal;samImpure

[tawdry plank]

Then save games and drag and drop your newest save file

[lofty forge]

"appdata/local/factorygame/[whichever save file you want]"

[sick umbra]

Got it

[tawdry plank]

Yippee

[grizzled lotus]

for people who've moved biomes, are certain points better to move to? That is, is the starting point of each biome the best choice?

I think @willow glen is going through somethign similar

[tawdry plank]

Prob at the start of a phase

And prepare a factory at the scale you'll need for the current phase's space elevator items

For me it's phase 4

[willow glen]

I’ve got everything set up already in another biome except for depots of common materials, but yeah there’s definitely better spots. Usually the starting place for those 4 biomes, but there’s more (blue crater comes to mind). Just set up shop near iron like you did before

[sick umbra]

It doesnt look like the maps loading properly, its mostly black

[willow glen]

also agreed phase 4 is my usual rebuild point

[grizzled lotus]

hmmm, I'm at the end of phase 3

[tawdry plank]

Maybe it's loading in the stuff

[grizzled lotus]

do you guys think I should finish that before moving and rebuilding?

[tawdry plank]

Takes a while

[white dawn]

Why move? Why not just expand and build new factories in the new biomes?

[willow glen]

If the project parts are already in progress, yes. Because you’ll want mk3 miners sooner than later

[tawdry plank]

Yeah first start a new phase and at the start of the phase you can move and make your factory properly

[white dawn]

Nothing wrong with rebuilding, of course, if that's what you want to do, but remember that it's a choice, not a necessity

Personally I'd find having to rebuild everything just to get to the exact same level of functionality I had before to be pretty dispiriting

I admit I often end up rebuilding some of my Phase 1 factories, but those at least tend to be quite tiny to start with

[sick umbra]

I see

[tawdry plank]

At a certain point my factory is such a mess (other than my satellite ones) that starting in a new biome gives me an opportunity to do it well and less congested. Doesn't mean I'll delete the old one

Oops wrong reply sorry

[sick umbra]

Oops xd

Nw

[tawdry plank]

I swiped yours when I didn't look

[sick umbra]

All good dw

[willow glen]

Oh and for reference I’m in phase 5 and intentionally delaying end of game, i could have easily bootstrapped all the project parts on floating platforms in my HUB, but I want this one to look better than that

[silk ocean]

Drones are all very peachy until you realise you have to build a gigantic ground support logistics network to distribute the fuel to the Drone Ports XD

[mortal ginkgo]

Key is to fuel them where they are bringing stuff so you fuel them all in place

[silk ocean]

Yea that's kinda what I have ended up doing

Distributing fuel around the main base

[frozen ingot]

i wouldn't describe it as gigantic 😄

[silk ocean]

xD

[dusk rivet]

Lizard Doggos dropping turbo motors and super cooling systems etc singlehandedly funding my coupon addiction in Phase 1

[frozen ingot]

oh, ground

i do drone fuel by drone 😄

[tawdry plank]

Or make a drone hub to fuel all in one place

Somewhere central

[willow glen]

This is the way

[frozen ingot]

yeah, can't imagine doing it any other way!

[gentle crater]

The central storage is removed in V 1.1 ?

[silk ocean]

I am flying Fuel into some ports yea xD

[delicate bobcat]

Anyone else here running Satisfactory from Linux?

[lofty forge]

if you mean dimensional depot. no

[silk ocean]

I'm running my local server on Linux but not the client

[delicate bobcat]

i am runniing a local sever on Win10 🙂

[silk ocean]

xD

[delicate bobcat]

lol

[silk ocean]

So we are kinda like opposites client/server 😄

[tawdry plank]

Here

[grizzled lotus]

well, that's that. I'm postponing my roadtrip

[lean ferry]

yo guys quick question pls

[tawdry plank]

Questions? In this economy??

[delicate bobcat]

i noticed that switching the graphics option from DX12 to Vulkan seemed to mostly get rid of my random freezes

[tawdry plank]

:0

[lean ferry]

I am currently setting up coal power (ive played game before) but now i know do I use manifolds or load balancers? I have 8 coal gens

[tawdry plank]

Vulkan my beloved

[tawdry plank]

Manifolds

[lean ferry]

you guys are so lucky i have a 1650 I run satisfactory on low graphics and I still have lag spikes 💔

[tawdry plank]

Much tidier

[willow glen]

totally personal choice. That’s an easy one to load balance, but I still manifold anyway lol

[white dawn]

Yeah, that was my experience as well, on my Linux machine. (Actually with 1.0, I had to enable Vulkan; dx12 wouldn't run the game at all for me. I think I rechecked that on 1.1 and it was still the case for me)

[delicate bobcat]

still get a rando freeze every once in a while, but no big deal

[bitter flicker]

out of curiosity, has anybody tried to make just coupon factories and beat the game buying the stuff you need with coupons?

[delicate bobcat]

interesting. DX12 ran really well when it wasn't frozen for me.

[silk ocean]

Running a LAN server does have benefits if you have a server with the power to do so, does a load of the compute work instead of the client having to do it as far as I can tell, things like autosave don't produce client brief freezes because it's done server-side, etc etc

[delicate bobcat]

it was hours between freezes too. not really that bad.

[white dawn]

As always, I'm sure the specifics depend heavily on graphics card and drivers and all that jazz. :D

[tawdry plank]

#1393623558596329616 message

Here's how I did mine

Simple with manifolds. For each 8 gens you put 2 water extractors on one side and 1 extractor on the other, with a pump after the 5th generator

[delicate bobcat]

LAN server is super nice because the factory is always running. 24/7

[silk ocean]

That too yea

Just exit to Desktop, never have to save, Factory runs 24/7

[delicate bobcat]

This is the biggest advantage

my cpu is only consuming 11W running the server, so no big deal

I have one of those Dell OptiPlex mini PC's dedicated

[silk ocean]

Nice xD It's mostly 2 core bound as far as I can tell, uses a load of 1 core when no clients are connected (this is I assume the factory running), and another core when I am connected, maybe 1 additional core per user?

[gentle crater]

MAM !
Thanks

[unkempt blade]

yeah the dedicated server performance/resource requirements got wildly better with 1.0

[silk ocean]

Unreal 5 seems like a huge improvement client-side as well

[lean ferry]

can I get a hand pls im makign 8 coal gens

but my pipes cant handle well, I have 3 water extractor

my pipes can only handle 240m but coal gen needs 3 water extractor exactly

so I needa get another?

[grizzled lotus]

after building a hypertube cannon to go back to my base I realized I could've just respawned there

[tawdry plank]

I said earlier :>

[lean ferry]

where

[tawdry plank]

Here

2 for 5 then on the other side one

With a pump after the 5th gen

[lean ferry]

thats not gonna work

[tawdry plank]

Since 2 pumps make enough water for 5 and a bit gens

[tawdry plank]

Look at the screenshot

[lean ferry]

pipes can only handle 300m

[tawdry plank]

It works

[lean ferry]

mk1 pipes

[tawdry plank]

I know...

[lean ferry]

that means liquid is bugged

[tawdry plank]

Those are mk1 pipes

[lean ferry]

each water extractor does 240m

[tawdry plank]

Lemme get home and I'll show you closer

[lean ferry]

mk1 pipe can only handle 300m

[tawdry plank]

I KNOW

[white dawn]

The wiki has some diagrams for 8:3 coal-gen piping which work just fine

[lean ferry]

240x3 idk but is a big number

[white dawn]

!wikisearch coal-powered%20generator

[tawdry plank]

That's why you have the water extractors on the other side

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=coal-powered generator

[tawdry plank]

The second one is what I did

[white dawn]

Personally I tend to do 'em like this: ```
[C] = Coal Generator | [W] = Water Extractor

[C] [C] [C] [C] [C] [C] [C] [C]
| | | | | | | |
/-+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+-
| |
-----------+---+---+-----------/
| | |
[W] [W] [W]

[lean ferry]

ohh

[tawdry plank]

With a pump after the 5th gen

[white dawn]

There's various ways to make it work

[lean ferry]

I did the 1st one

I can send a screenshot rq wait (whats keybind for photo mode pls)

[tawdry plank]

P

[lean ferry]

k

[south sinew]

the second set of pipes is kinda redundant no?

[white dawn]

(You could also underclock things to avoid needing to play some of those tricks)

[white dawn]

If you're producing 360/min liquid via mk1 pipes, you need a second path somewhere

[tawdry plank]

Yeah second method is pretty reliable just one extractor at the other end

[south sinew]

yeah, but the first set of pipes also contains two paths; left and right

[tawdry plank]

And a pump after the 5th

[white dawn]

So you either loop it like that or make sure your junctions are set up to inject them in the right spots

[lean ferry]

I go afk for ONE SECOND ON FULLHP

and i come back to see myself dead

[white dawn]

As I say, there's a lot of ways to do it; I was just mentioning the way I tend to do it, is all

[lean ferry]

what killed me 💔

[tawdry plank]

Ada

[south sinew]

  |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |
  +---+---+-+-+-+-+-+-+---+---+
            |   |   |
           [W] [W] [W]

should work ok no?

[silk ocean]

Coal doesn't really feature all that much in the grand scheme though, transition to Fuel relatively quickly in progression xD

It is transformational after Biomass though 😄

[leaden ether]

Yeah though you could spread those water inputs out a bit more evenly.

[south sinew]

could do but don't have to I think

[leaden ether]

You should just get in the habit of manually balancing (roughly) all pipe inputs and outputs, it'll save headaches along the way.

[tawdry plank]

As long as it doesn't spontaneously combust the power grid then it works

[lean ferry]

check screenshots

I did it that way

where do I place pumop

[tawdry plank]

No need for pump with that design

In the second method you use a pump as a valve basically

And to force that last bit of water

But for the one you use I doubt you'll need any

[lean ferry]

icl

[open pollen]

Could you get closer so the pipes are actually visible?

[lean ferry]

k ill do that

im tryna take screenshots so I dont get kiled by spitters

check screenshot, heres the f ront part if u want ill show u back

im planning to clip the water extractor to one of the junctions in middle (realistic guys trust) and then connect the other 2 to ends, then just pump the start of each extractor

[open pollen]

Yeah this should work. And if you can’t clip the pipe then just connect it to one of the ends. Then it would basically be the second example from the pic from the wiki

[tawdry plank]

I doubt you need the pumps since you don't need much headlift

But doesn't hurt

[lean ferry]

nah actually

ill just pump middle/near end

of the rlly long pipe connecting to the junction spam

[tawdry plank]

🫡

[open pollen]

You won’t need it in the middle. Pumps do not speed up fluids it only gives the fluids headlift/height

[lean ferry]

nono like

yk how they start weakening the further they go

[tawdry plank]

They dont

[lean ferry]

..

[lofty forge]

they dont?

[tawdry plank]

They eventually saturate the whole pipe

You just need to give them a min

[lofty forge]

they have a full stop at their max height

[tawdry plank]

The flow will be the same

[lean ferry]

but then if its like exactly amount you need

you need slighlty more to saturate

[tawdry plank]

Just let the pipes saturate before turning on the gens

[lean ferry]

ok ykw im not gonna pump it ill just give it at ry without pumps

[tawdry plank]

Simple as that

You don't need more water just time

[lean ferry]

ill put gens on standby

[lofty forge]

or temporarily overclock the extractors until the extractors start filling up

[lean ferry]

so I can saturate the coal aswell

[tawdry plank]

Or you can turn one off and let the others run

[lean ferry]

cuz its a manifold

[tawdry plank]

It'll still saturate eventually

[lean ferry]

im gonna jumpstart it with bio

[tawdry plank]

Good luck 🫡

Once it's done at least you won't need to worry about it till phase 3

Maybe add more gens later since you're near all those coal nodes

Once you have better miners or conveyors

[open pollen]

Yeah expanding is always good and once set up they can just be left alone

My coal gens from early on have just been doing their thing perpetually and I haven’t been back in ages (And I’m almost at phase 5)

[tawdry plank]

#1393623558596329616 message

Here's what I did

14 gens cause I diverted 60 coal somewhere else

[silk ocean]

I seem to be pegged to 100% Radiation Level no matter where I go, triple checked my inventory, nothing radioactive in there, any ideas?

[spiral summit]

satisfactory try not to crash while im alt tabbed out challenge(impossible)

[lofty forge]

does the radioactivity in dimensional depot affect you?

[lean ferry]

hey so

I tried to do ur method

and even tho only 4 gens are on 3 water extractor the water inpipes keep fluctuating

[lofty forge]

have you filled the pipes completely?

so much that the water starts building up in the extractors themselves

[silk ocean]

I don't have anything radioactive in the Dimensional Depot, but I threw myself off a cliff and recollected my belongings to solve the problem xD

[lean ferry]

ok so thats probably why

[open pollen]

How badly are they fluctuating?

[lean ferry]

when all my water is filled up then ill turn on all gens

[lofty forge]

ah. the age old solution of turning it off and on again

[lean ferry]

no like the pipes from extractor to start of manifold are going from like 24 to 20

[silk ocean]

lol yea xD

[lofty forge]

but is the water is always flowing in the same direction?

[open pollen]

Wouldn’t the pipes be fluctuating cause water is being used?

[lean ferry]

nvm its fine extractors are slowly filling up but coal saturation is taking AGES

only 3 have been fully buffered its gonna take like a good 20 mins im gonna see if I cna overclock the miners

[open pollen]

Do all your belts have the correct speed?

[rocky sierra]

how many computer/min and heavy modular frame/min should i aim for in tier 8

[lean ferry]

yes

[lofty forge]

maybe to speed up the process you can throw coal in yourself

[lean ferry]

yeah

I could definetly do that

[prime jasper]

Is there a way to know the statistics of a save? The number of constructio built etc... Many games implement that and i find it funny, but i am not shure it exist there

[vestal mica]

it's not in the vanilla game. you can drop your save file into the online interactive map site and it will give you some data

there may be mods that give you some sort of data report, dunno

[lean ferry]

im actually SO stupid

i accidentally build 9 coal gens 💔

[lofty forge]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map#5.25;100819;36506|gameLayer|;bauxiteImpure;bauxiteNormal;bauxitePure;coalImpure;coalNormal;coalPure;oilImpure;oilNormal;oilPure;sulfurPure;sulfurNormal;sulfurImpure;cateriumNormal;cateriumPure;copperNormal;copperImpure;ironNormal;ironPure;ironImpure;limestonePure;limestoneNormal;limestoneImpure;quartzPure;quartzNormal;quartzImpure;uraniumImpure;uraniumNormal;samPure;samNormal;samImpure

[open pollen]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map#3;-164665;265137|gameLayer| is the website Krumpps is referencing btw

[lean ferry]

whole system buffered full water full coal

time to turn it all on

lol its so buffered extractors are starting to turn off

nvm now everything connected

600 🙂 when I get mark 2 miners ill extend

[vestal mica]

the nice thing about prefiling everything is it takes a while now for problems to actually show up

[prime jasper]

Okay i'll check that site

[lean ferry]

yasyaytayayay 900mw

[south kindle]

For Satifact2ry I want a winter biome, undersea industrialization, and more environmental effects so we can melt the ice

[prime jasper]

Is there a way to get a foundation blueprint to exatly match the world grid?

Even by placing a foundation manually first it doesn't seem to work

Oh wait if i find just the right angle I can snap to the foundation placed manually. I think i'll do this. Kinda tricky but it work

[lean ferry]

yall

to make versatile freamwork factory

should I put everytthing together in 1 factory

or should I get all resources and put it in storage and wire that up to a bunch of assemblers

[quiet oar]

I just finished building my versatile framework factory 30 seconds ago

[lean ferry]

o

[quiet oar]

i made it its own factory

[lean ferry]

I mean the way I did it with my freind is I made my own factory

but looking back at it it took nearly 3 hours

[quiet oar]

mine only makes 5 per min but took like 30 mins to build

[willow glen]

For the initial spelevator requirement I had some chests feeding an assembler, for phase 4 I had it semi-automated (peeling off storage), and phase 5 I’ve integrated it into an entirely new build

[tidal epoch]

how to add merger to my 5th slot satisfactory

[quiet oar]

hover over it in buildings and hit 5 on your keyboard

[tidal epoch]

thanks

[haughty flax]

so i guess do people make individual automation chains for each item? like 1 for reinforced iron plate, then like x amount more individual chains for each item that reinforced plates get used into, such as modular frames and crystal oscillator

asking mostly as an early-midgame strat, not endgame where u need giga amounts

[willow glen]

I automate it to fully use whatever inputs I can, and it runs at less than full capacity any time I pull something off from underneath. Makes expansion easy, but I’m never quite sure how much I’m producing of anything other than raw ore. I make more finely tuned factories after mk5 belts

[haughty flax]

yeah i just unlocked mk5 belts, still on mk2 miners. what do u mean by use whatever inputs u can, do u have a giant manifold of say iron ore that u just branch off to each individual chain?

[tawdry plank]

You can also make 8 more next to it separate since it'll take a long while till MK2 pipes and by then you'll prob be doing fuel

[lean ferry]

No like I can extend with the miner and a different pipe network

Like a whole different network

[tawdry plank]

Best rule of thumb is to not leech off main storage and just make it separate

[lean ferry]

It would take ages to setup time and you would need good resource placement

I would rather use my own storage

[tawdry plank]

I mean for phase 2 you can just handfeed the stuff into a storage container into an assembler

[willow glen]

For example, if I’m making 120 screws/min, I set up 2 reinforced iron plate assemblers (120 screws per minute), and 2 rotor assemblers (200 screws per minute)

[tawdry plank]

I'm saying in general it's a good rule of thumb

To not leech from the main storage

[willow glen]

If I need both, well, they don’t run at capacity. But if one backs up, all my iron is still feeding something

[haughty flax]

so in this example all of your screws, or any intermediary product, go onto their own manifold, and then fed into the production building next? im setting it up just to go immediately from constructor > assembler but seems inefficient

i guess to better word my problem, i have reached a point where my starter setup was terrible, im working towards finishing phase 4, i have mk5 belts and mk2 miners, oil power is done. i am trying to reorganize my stuff and i have 1800/min of iron coming in, and want to automate everything going forward, just unsure how to divvy it all up

[tawdry plank]

it's tough to plan everything out in one solid location, the logistics will be a headache

but i trust you :>

[vestal mica]

one commonly espoused strategy is to not really try to divvy up your existing production lines into later items, but to just build a whole new factory that builds the intermediary products you need on site

[tawdry plank]

just make sure to keep it expandable and use blueprints to quickly expand (like a 4 iron plate manufacturer bp etc)

so that you can expand depending on demand very quick

i prefer having satelite factories for most items and have just the basic essentials crafted at the main base for depot

[silk ocean]

I was thinking, why is there a Priority Merger but no Priority Splitter, then my peasant brain came to the conclusion that priority splitting is just a case of running the output through your priority area first, and then taking the overflow for the rest xD

[vestal mica]

I know when i started, it just seemed like the intent was, ok, i need to make motors... well i'm already making rotors over here, how can i incorporate that. But now i'm like... there's my rotor factory. Now i'm going to make a motor factory that makes its own rotors from scratch.

the exceptions being the things you can really only make in a few spots on the map. like i will logistics around rubber/plastic

[fathom shuttle]

Just finished a power slug hunt
137 blue slugs, 94 yellow slugs and 51 purple slugs

[tawdry plank]

And aluminum

[tawdry plank]

Now somersloop the manufacturer to double the shards

[floral oar]

I'm trying to get into blueprinting as well and thought rails would be a decent start.
Though ... how would I blueprint elevated rails and spirals? O.o
I created an abomination of a spiral by hand and feel like it wasn't my best idea u.u

[tawdry plank]

Ez money

[fathom shuttle]

That’s the plan all along 🙂

Should be 1.2k I think

[tawdry plank]

🙂

[fathom shuttle]

I’ll be pissed if I need to go for another hunt before I can automate them

[tawdry plank]

Big money

[tawdry plank]

Hopefully won't

But who knows

[fathom shuttle]

In the time I spent collecting slugs I got 80 coupons that’s pretty nice

Each one takes 18m points lol

[tawdry plank]

You reminded me I need to sink my excess computers from the computer factory before I do aluminum factory

[left mauve]

turned on my first real factory this playthrough, but i connected two things wrong and immediately there were iron ingots in all 70 lifts to my screw constructors 👍

[south elm]

what do you need so many power cells for anyway

making every machine 250% but this community is pretty mental sometimes

[fathom shuttle]

10m/min points lol

[fathom shuttle]

That’s exactly what I need them for lol

[south elm]

crazy!

[left mauve]

cant you just make synthetic shards?

[leaden ether]

Not till so late in the game you almost don't need them any more -.-

[fathom shuttle]

It would have been 3x larger if I didn’t overclock #screenshots

It seems the super computers are finally being sunk

10.5m/min now

[left mauve]

what are you building bookie?

[south elm]

i love how you havent bothered to even begin phase 4

[reef zealot]

been meaning to ask

is there a build height?

cus im close to reacheing that thing that goes up and down in the orbtial elevator with my factory

[tawdry plank]

Yep

[reef zealot]

ive nearly built taller tha the tallest thing on the map

just a few more levels and im there

[floral oar]

Is there a recommended way on implementing trains and stuff early on?
https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1394411127479468102
I feel like this isn't exactly the way to go especially early on cough

[tawdry plank]

yeah you got like 1500 meters or more above ground

the height limit is pretty merciful

[reef zealot]

i think once ive build the particle accelator level fully the next few levels are just gonna be recreational

like a skatepark

a peice of beuty in the horrific hellscape that is my factory

[south elm]

Above which ground

See level ground or mountaintop

[fathom shuttle]

Sea level lol

[fathom shuttle]

Supercomputers and RCUs

RCUs for the PCC which I’ve finished

All that’s left is nuclear pasta and turbo motors

[unkempt blade]

make sure to incorporate jump pads for maximum extreme sports-ness

[fathom shuttle]

I can finish it rn but there is no point because I haven’t finished the project on hand

[south elm]

I need to get around making the radiosetup and build some neat looking drone platform but I want all the alternate recepies first

[fathom shuttle]

I think it’s time for me clean up the starter area

[reef zealot]

i still have no hypertubes, it takes neally 3 minutes to get to the top my my factory

[unkempt blade]

biocoal is an abomination, don't bother with that one

[fathom shuttle]

#screenshots message I didn’t use foundations until tier 4 btw

[south elm]

Oh yeah I torn down like all of my starter factory like 2 days ago and dismantling stuff took quite a bit for that

[south elm]

That should have a trigger warming of some sort my eyes burn

[fathom shuttle]

I’ll turn the entire area into a space elevator parts/ tier 9 factory

Also turbo motors

[haughty flax]

maybe im blind... using the production planner at here: https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/planners/production

I am not seeing a way to remove an item after i've added output, i just have to refresh the tab to start over?

[south elm]

The one that turns biomass into coal? Honestly it seemed kinda neat to me what is so bad about it

You get ridiculous amount of biomass with 2 sloops and just keeping all the wood and leaves from cleaning the area to build anyway

[elder apex]

you spend the entire beginning of the game trying to advance to the point where you don't have to manually collect resources any more, why would you want to use an alternate recipe that requires you to once again manually collect resources?

[tawdry plank]

that photo hurt to see. looks exactly like my base before middle of phase 3

[south elm]

I mean I don't think it's actually good alternative to actual coal but it's nice to be able to just put some out of nowhere if you are in dire need of it

[tawdry plank]

yeah but you can clear the area faster by exploding it rather than collecting everything

seems like a timewaste

[unkempt blade]

it would be a better recipe if it did the opposite of what it does

[vestal mica]

now i want an alt to turn diamonds back into biomass

[vestal mica]

that planner is not usually recommended. try satisfactory tools or satisfactory logistics

[hard ivy]

that's the absolute worst calculator for this game lol

[haughty flax]

oh no

[tawdry plank]

the site is great for the interactive map but the calc is rough

i use the modeler but that one is hard to read for others

but it's a great tool for planning your stuff and all the satelite factories

[spiral summit]

the insane satisfaction i just got from subconsciously vehicular manslaughtering 5 small stingers at once

i feel like asgore

[tawdry plank]

or nuking a cave of them

i dont care they should all become dust

[tawdry plank]

#screenshots message

it has all my factories except the homebase

later on when i got a rail network and a better storage i will connect them properly

[fathom shuttle]

#screenshots message fully dismantled

Idk what to do now ngl

Should I build a pyramid for the space elevator

[tawdry plank]

first lay a big ass foundation

with some space for the logistics below

then plan it one thing at a time

[fathom shuttle]

Oh I dismantled my iron plates production too lol

[terse kindle]

Is there a way to make the SCIM production planner account for which manufacturing buildings you have unlocked? It's recommending I use assemblers/oil refineries which I dont currently have..

[fathom shuttle]

You disable machines I think

[hard ivy]

#satisfactory message

[terse kindle]

which one would you recommend instead?

[tidal epoch]

how to build more foundations at once by holding instead of 1 by 1

[tawdry plank]

tools or modeler

[hard ivy]

Satisfactory Tools

[tawdry plank]

either or

[terse kindle]

thanks you

[vestal mica]

you should see keybinds on your screen in general whenever you're building or doing anything really. but it's press R to change between default (one at a time), zoop (drag horizontally), vertical (drag vertically)

[fathom shuttle]

Press r

[tawdry plank]

if you have access to the BP maker you can make a quick bp with 4x4/6x6 foundations since that is much quicker

and you can snap the bp foundations together real quick

to make a huge platform

[vestal mica]

infinite zoop is the only mod i still can't play without

[modest nest]

I wish you could zoop anything

oh well

[vestal mica]

2D zooping instead of just a line is too good

[tawdry plank]

what would be the best recipe for a big factory for heavy modular frames

encased?

at least i get rid of most screws with that recipe

[hard ivy]

encased. always encased

[tawdry plank]

seems so

[hard ivy]

both other recipes are terrible

[tawdry plank]

just had to double check

at least concrete is anything but rare

[hard ivy]

make sure you use encased pipe too

[vestal mica]

yo dawg, i heard you liked encased

[tawdry plank]

read my mind

[hard ivy]

there are other recipes I'd recommend, but unless you ask for recommendations, I won't tell you what to use

[mystic oriole]

eeew no

[tawdry plank]

i think most the rest i got planned

but i dont wanna use iron pipe for this i think i got a coal node close to where ill make the modular frames

[south kindle]

Finding the two pure quartz nodes in the rocky dessert caves makes me want to mod explosives in.

[tired cypress]

lmao I found a completely stupid workaround for when it refuses to let you put a rail signal on the correct side/direction. Just put it on the wrong side, then it'll let you put one on the correct side, then remove the other one.

[placid stirrup]

Crunchy treat

[young sleet]

yo quick question

[smoky forge]

hm

[young sleet]

im new and have no idea what to progress... i got coal mines going and some water flow. Could someone hop in and help me a little?

[open pollen]

Just look at the tiers, the overall phase’s goal, and MAM research for ideas on what to do to progress

[tawdry plank]

yeah try to produce a bit of everything that you got unlocked. then try to see what you wanna unlock next and how to reach your goals quick

i recommend getting the running legs too in the map to traverse much faster through the world if you haven't already

[grizzled lotus]

huh, I found an interesting mercer sphere. it's the first one I've seen without the usual case around it

[viscid rain]

just got satisfactory 😎

[unkempt blade]

now no sleep until you beat the game!

[viscid rain]

💀

[tawdry plank]

welcome to your next addiction

remember that ficsit only allows 15 second microbreaks a day

the factory must grow

[viscid rain]

miencraft and roblox

gd

[leaden ether]

Not burning out on a half finished game.

[tawdry plank]

until last year my system couldn't even handle the game lol. also i knew it was gonna be addictive like factorio so i avoided it till i had the time

[tawdry plank]

eh even in early access it was anything but unfinished

vertical splitters is still the best thing they added recently

also infinite nudging god

[leaden ether]

Point is by the time it relesed I would have been fully burnt out on it and not enjoyed it as fully fleshed out as it is. I really do NOT like playing EA games because of that. I play games for 3-6 months then move on generally.

[tawdry plank]

i am the type to play one game on and on and on so i cant relate

i still play minecraft after decades already

or other factory games

the days before the conveyor lifts when you had to make spiraling conveyor belts to raise stuff

[grizzled lotus]

after moving to PC, I discovered crafting/simulation games, which I liked, but then I realized what a huge time sink they can be, and I sometimes spend so much time on them I end up playing fewer games than before

[bold wedge]

chat help

how do i close satisfactory

[tawdry plank]

have you tried nuking your pc

[bold wedge]

yesn't