satisfactory

[south sinew]

Try making cannons out of them

[fathom shuttle]

The alternate cuts out the sulfuric acid step and replaces it with sulfur, seems better since you’ll only need silicon while getting better yield

[junior laurel]

Or 15 hundred pumps

[spare dragon]

That too

[hexed phoenix]

Or just plain stupidity - trying to enforce self implied rules, of having only "green" energy (meaning no Coal or Oil power) .. And no Alternativ Recipe what so ever... And have every recipe on automation somewhere :)

[spare dragon]

But challenges are what keep gameplay somewhat relevant over basically just playing in creative

[hexed phoenix]

5 Water Pumps (Clocked to 120/min) for 1 Nuclear Reactor - Isn't super bad imho

[fathom shuttle]

If you want to build 300GW of nuclear power that’s 240 water extractors lol

[tender raft]

you dont think its that bad until you actually do it and realize that suicide doesnt seem so bad after all

[junior laurel]

Self implied rules, yeah doing the same, no mods.

[south sinew]

ooops, forgot to connect belt to space elevator, been overflowing all my project parts to sink for the last hour kek

[junior laurel]

nu

[tender raft]

#screenshots message

this is uranium only

[hexed phoenix]

Well .. doing 300GW of Ionized Fuel on Fuel Gens doesn't require any buildings either.. Or wait.. Nvm :)

[south sinew]

the thing I hate most about water extractors is how it's hard to get them on foundation

[junior laurel]

Eeyup looking forward to doing my nuclear in like 7 months.

[undone yarrow]

SCIM Megaprint goes brr

[tender raft]

i spent like 2 hours trying to get SCIM megaprints to actually work with water extractors and it was literally infuriating so i havent tried since

[undone yarrow]

||Please Coffeestain, make blueprints not break water extractors||

[smoky forge]

make a hypertube acelerator, its better

[undone yarrow]

but yeah, I spent a good amount trying to get the megaprint to work too... but once it did...

Cannons are faster, accelerators are less power costly

[tender raft]

I just straight up gave up on the nuclear and built a rocket fuel plant

[south sinew]

that's just a hypercannon going into a hypertube, no?

[smoky forge]

no

[undone yarrow]

its the junction ones that only need one entrance

[hexed phoenix]

Well okay - I'll admit then.. If getting 600 Water/Min is the largest problem you have..

Then maybe Nuclear isn't for you - as thats probably the easiest setup, compared to doing the Nuclear Fuel Rods..

[tender raft]

i wanted to rebuild the uranium section anyways to make more efficient use of space and use better recipe(s)

[leaden ether]

I made a 75 GW nuclear plant and it only took 30 water extractors. Basiclly one per reactor OCed. Not a problem at all really.

[spare dragon]

An accelerator is when u loop around using branches and then reconnect back to the mainline to be shot out

[south sinew]

huh

isn't that going to require you to press E at exactly the right time to get back into the mainline from the loop?

[leaden ether]

Even if it ended up being two for an OCed reactor, that's still not bad (Built ontop of open water of course)

[tender raft]

its how incredibly tedious it is to do if youre actually doing big nuclear

[smoky forge]

look in #screenshots

[tender raft]

automating the rods is the fun part, could even say the satisfying part, placing extractors for hours though, not so much

[fathom shuttle]

And having to connect all of them

[leaden ether]

The water use was the least difficult part of nuclear IMHO :D (Againg assuming you are smart and build it ontop of the ocean)

[fathom shuttle]

Does blueprint auto connect help with that?

[spare dragon]

Me who built it over the lake 💀

[tender raft]

obviously connecting water extractors would be the least difficult part, its completely braindead, which is why it sucks so much

[hexed phoenix]

Pro tip... Watch 1 hour of Brain Rot video.. And suddenly you enjoy doing Water Extractors :D

[leaden ether]

Having to plumb a few water extractors isn't nearly as brain numbing as the hundreds of generators needed for RF. Even using blueprints. Ooof.

[smoky forge]

rf?

[hexed phoenix]

Rocket Fuel

[smoky forge]

oh

[tender raft]

well those are extremely easy to copypaste with scim/megaprints since you dont have to worry about water extractors

[junior laurel]

With how I'm buildy I won't be able to use those

[leaden ether]

Nuclear was more balanced with the machine installs. And is nicely comprehensive on the complexity. Honestly it's the most satisfying project in the game IMHO (Atleast up to plutonium)

[tender raft]

i built a single platform of like 6 or 8 fuel gens and copypasted that bad boy in a few mins and was done with few hundred thousand MW in an hour

[smoky forge]

yeah can relate

[undone yarrow]

Laying pipes feels good because they look so nice, getting pipes to work is pain peko

[smoky forge]

again in #screenshots

[spare dragon]

The step to ficsonium isn’t even that bad either…it only feels like replaying the last two phases of the game all over again

[undone yarrow]

The problem with Ficsonium isnt the complexity, its the cost per plutonium waste

[junior laurel]

I just want the IKEA lamp

[south sinew]

How do you handle deciding when to exit the accelerator? Mine always wants to default to exiting, and I'm trying to press E to go around again and get more speed, but it doesn't seem to be working

[smoky forge]

you need a litle bit of a gap between one entrance and the junction

so that pressing E is even possible

with my blueprint its barely possible

[spare dragon]

Oh yea no shit that’s why u don’t burn all the Plutonium fuel rods

Unless u wanna somersloop SAM

[south sinew]

hmm ok

even staying in the loop the speed is pretty disappointing compared to hypercannon

[junior laurel]

Done that always chief ;)

[smoky forge]

yeah you need an actual tube system around the map if you mean it like that

because it is indeed crazy fast

not as you describe it

[spare dragon]

I personally still like hypertube cannons bc they’re faster, can be made to look like railguns/howitzers, and bc I don’t care about my power consumption (ofc u could always just attach a switch system onto ur cannon so it will only be on for a few seconds to shoot u)

[south sinew]

entrances are only 10MW a pop, a pretty nothing cost IYAM

[fathom shuttle]

Exactly, it’s 10MW lol

Even the craziest cannon consumes 1GW at most

[void belfry]

"If they go the way lf the dinosaur, what are you crying for? We're just making oil."

[junior laurel]

I dont really feel the loop to gain speed will suit me.
I like being shot consistently and if I do 10 loops vs 12 the distance will be different enough it woll bother me

[south sinew]

if you want consistency, do a hypercannon into a hypertube that goes where you want to go

[spare dragon]

Yea but the advantage of a normal hypertube cannon is that once u get used to controlling midair falling u can use it to travel to multiples places

[junior laurel]

Consistent speed.
I shoot from the dunes and I can angle mid air to get to everywhere else on the map

[sly bloom]

Do you guys think drones will ever be ridable?

[junior laurel]

Not unless we install a seat belt

I also have the same deal in the grass

[spare dragon]

I have my primary cannons from the dunes, the westernmost beach, and the highest point in the map from the rocky desert, but most of my factories have a mini return to the hub cannon installed

[south sinew]

ok lesson learned

[junior laurel]

Argh the "there's totally lore here" beach?

[south sinew]

automating your project parts into the elevator via belt is a bad idea

[spare dragon]

I just call it the oil beach…aka Dubai

[junior laurel]

Oh that is south from the lore beach

[white dawn]

Disagree; I do that basically all the time. Yes, you do have to go clean up the belts once you've finished a phase, which is annoying. But it's better than having to hand-feed things

And if you're hand-feeding then you've gotta be going back there anyway, so the belt cleanup isn't a big deal

[south sinew]

yeah, but at least hand-feeding at the elevator means I can manually sink everything left over pretty easy, whereas cleaning up the belt may involve cleaning up a lot more belt

[white dawn]

I do wish the elevator had either an integrated sink or an "invalid items" output belt which could let a single belt setup remain valid throughout a whole playthrough

Only if you've constructed the belts in a way that's hard to clean up. :)

[south sinew]

they're 500m tall yes ;p

[white dawn]

A single deconstruct + rebuild is hardly onerous

[south sinew]

ok, my batteries will last for another 10 hours, I can probably automate aluminium in that time and then make an RF plant, rather than making another diluted fuel plant and then having to upgrade it later

[spare dragon]

make the rf plant first lol so u don’t have to rely on batteries lol

[south sinew]

yeah.. I just noticed that RF is actually half way through Tier 8 rather than right away

so I'll go make a DF plant and then upgrade it I guess

[cobalt lodge]

I'm building my first quarz factory, do you need more silica or more quarz crystals?

[south sinew]

what are you building the quartz factory for?

[white dawn]

Your needs will change as you move throughout the game (and will depend heavily on what alt recipes you end up wanting to use). Make whatever you need right now, and then later on once you need more, then make more

Trying to futureproof your factories isn't worth it, IMO

[arctic swallow]

any idea why it doesn't look the same? #screenshots message

[frail sleet]

you built from different side

e.g.

A to B
B to A
B to A

[cobalt lodge]

Everything, it's my first quarz factory. I'm still in early game (right before space elevator upgrade 2)

[cobalt lodge]

thx

[arctic swallow]

it doesn't matter from which side i build

[south sinew]

Then just make quartz crystal because you're just going to automate it straight into sink then

[cobalt lodge]

ok thx

[arctic swallow]

i build from the same side and still doesn't look the same

[frail sleet]

must be connecting to the wrong part or something

[south sinew]

damnit, 5x5 is still too small for a 4 fuel gen blueprint, just about

[junior laurel]

Soo upset with the quantum encoder.

[south sinew]

well

a 2 fuel gen autoconnecting print is still better than nothing

[arctic swallow]

i tried to rebuild it still nothing

[open pollen]

Is the top one attached to the stackable pipe supports correctly at the ends

[arctic swallow]

yep

i just make it further away and somehow it worked

[modest glade]

I'm so angry at the developers, they haven't been able to fix the problem with not increasing the number of inventory slots for three months now

[open pollen]

What is this problem exactly? I don’t think I’ve encountered it yet (or maybe haven’t noticed)

[arctic swallow]

you have neurolink now

[junior laurel]

This is the first I've heard of such an issue.

[modest glade]

many reports both on steam and tickets on your site, after researching the increase of +1 slot in equipment in the mycelium branch it is simply not added

[south sinew]

hmm

[fathom shuttle]

Just edit your save from satisfactory calculator then lol

You can even give yourself 20 hand slots if you want

[modest glade]

I can provide you with both the save file and the video of how it simply does not increase

[junior laurel]

Well if it's on the site then they've seen it.

[south sinew]

any advice for building in the blue crater? I want to build something kinda big but there's so many of these damn huge mushrooms in the way

[junior laurel]

Assuming the report has actually been upvoted

[south sinew]

maybe just pump the oil high up above?

[fathom shuttle]

Use bombs to destroy them

[modest glade]

i didnt wanted to do it so, but thank you for advice

[south sinew]

wow, I had no idea that worked on the big ones

I thought they were real terrain lol

[junior laurel]

I hope I can regen those huge shrooms via SCIM cuz I think I could cook something with em

[fathom shuttle]

Also if you think you’ll need a lot of water in the future build above the lake with enough space to place down a water extractor

[hexed phoenix]

Not to be that guy.. But the inventory increase works on my PC..

[south sinew]

yeah I think up might be the way to go

[fathom shuttle]

Are you planning to make a power plant there?

[south sinew]

yeah, gonna do a big diluted fuel build that I'll turn into an RF build

[fathom shuttle]

Packaged diluted fuel or the regular one?

[south sinew]

packaged

[fathom shuttle]

I’d wait until you get blenders and the diluted fuel recipe

[south sinew]

can't, I'm already in power deficit

I wanted to wait until I had RF unlocked to start

[fathom shuttle]

How much power do you need?

[south sinew]

probably at least 5GW more

but the start of any RF build is a diluted fuel build so decided I may as well just prepare the diluted fuel I want for RF

[fathom shuttle]

Make a temporary set up of 10GW from 2 pure nodes

Make rubber and plastic from the resin

[viral tendon]

Turbo fuel is goated, just by prudcing 75 rubber per minute i make 2000 mws

[south sinew]

I'm just gonna sink the resin, I already got another place making plenty of rubber and plastic from recycled + diluted fuel

[idle minnow]

Is there a workaround for the FPS randomly dropping down to single digit numbers (and the graphics card dropping down to 0% usage) other than restarting the game?

[viral tendon]

how much vram you got and what settings you're using

[idle minnow]

I've got 8gb and the issue is independent of the graphics settings (same issue on very low as on very high)

[viral tendon]

Idk, i had the same and i was plkaying with ultra, i changed to high and everything is working

[frail sleet]

it's an out of ram / out of VRAM issue only AFAIK

game needs a lot of both

[idle minnow]

so you just have to restart it all the time?

[frail sleet]

confirm they're at <80%

[viral tendon]

8 gb is enough for high

To play on higher settings get 10 gb+

[frail sleet]

No, you have to sanitise the rest of your PC if you dont have a lot of RAM/VRAM and/or drop settings

[idle minnow]

ok, thanks, I'll try

[sly bloom]

Have you guys ever fucked up math and ended up with making 9000 RF so you had to scratch everything and start over (._.)

[open pollen]

How in the world did this occur?

[sly bloom]

Well uh long story short, I decided to use all the oil in the tropical coast, (2150) and do the following Heavy oil residue--> Diluted fuel---nitro rocket fuel

And i didnt do all the math before hand

[fathom shuttle]

Why start over?

[sly bloom]

because

[open pollen]

Just commit fully and make over 2000 fuel gens 😎

[sly bloom]

I needed 6k sulfur

[fathom shuttle]

Then delete some stuff

[viral tendon]

Can you make short story long

[sly bloom]

and like 4400 nitrogen gas

[leaden ether]

800 RF = 768 fuel gens so... Yeah :D

[viral tendon]

yikes

[sly bloom]

and i looked into it and 6000 sulfur is over half of all the sulfur in satisfactory

[open pollen]

I thought it was about 4 RF per fuel gen?

[leaden ether]

Actually that's not right... 2400 = 768

Yeah I was thinking of one quarter section of my plant, not the entire thing :(

[open pollen]

You can always switch half of the facility to a plastic/rubber facility as well

[sly bloom]

My entire reason was. I needed too many valueble resources.

And also

[leaden ether]

So achievable in the blue crater area if there is that much oil there, I think there are two nitrogen nodes within reasonable distance.

[viral tendon]

I believe the only limit in satisfactory is amount of nods, amount of free space on water and height of the world

[sly bloom]

i wasnt building 2158 gens

But guys

As i was having this conversation

I completed my 3600 RF power plant

[viral tendon]

I believe i haven't even build 2158 objects yet

[open pollen]

Could always build 1079 and overclock them to 200% 😆

[viral tendon]

But where do you get 2158 power shards

Or 1079 power slugs

[sly bloom]

And i am happy to inform you that i will soon be the holder of 216000 Megawatts ( to all you people that are gonna say "actually its gigawatts🤓" shut up

[open pollen]

A gal can dream ok

[sly bloom]

That was also one of my reason

[leaden ether]

You can farm/produce about 5200 shards total till you get to the point where you can manufacture them. But still, that would be a HUGE shard drain anyway :D

[open pollen]

How many gens did you end up placing?

[sly bloom]

864

[open pollen]

You poor soul

[sly bloom]

I havent decorated the Generator tower, Right now its 8 floors with 104 each and its just floating

[sly bloom]

It wasnt that bad compared to the reward

[leaden ether]

THat's a good number, sloop up 4-5 alien augmenters and that's some serious power for the entire build.

[sly bloom]

Yall wanna see the plant?

[open pollen]

Put it in #screenshots or #design-and-architecture I must see

[sly bloom]

K ima make a series of screenshots, And ima also throw that shit on reddit

[sly bloom]

its not going in architectur cause i am horrid at design

[clear aspen]

Why is the satisfactory ost so peak

[viral tendon]

#screenshots message How the fuck

[leaden ether]

I posted a pic of my 768 gen plant with it's full cladding. Pretty bare bones but I guess most power plants are pretty utilitarian looking. (I HATE the fact that the elevator won't go to the top floor. Grrr.) #screenshots message

[open pollen]

Do elevators have a limit?

[sour ledge]

ooo power barges are a good idea... i usually do power towers once i hit rocket fuel, but that's a good way to put 'em floating out over the water without looking out of place...

[leaden ether]

Yes, and that limit was ONE elevator block below my 8th floor so I had to stop at floor 7 and put stairs on the inside to get to #8 :(

[viral tendon]

Just use nuclear power atp

[sour ledge]

maybe put a little... y'know, those little alcoves that go out to 'roof access' on top of buildings? and take the ceiling off the highest floor. That way it makes 'sense' the elevator doesn't go up to the roof and looks proper

[sly bloom]

hey woodenlion

I cant put all my pics at once

you gotta wait like 2 mins cause of slowmode

@open pollen 1 more min and they will be up

[hard sluice]

Is there a keyboard hotkey to take a certain number of an item from the interdimensional depot to inventory ?

[peak wasp]

so question here for you guys

would it be wasteful to use Blue Crater as a giant oil power plant?

and then get my nitrogen gas from another location

[leaden ether]

There is nitrogen in the crater. Though putting an RF plant there would be better.

Or is that what you meant?

[void belfry]

Yes my point was make rocket fuel there and dedicate all that nitrogen there to that...and if I need nitrogen gas for anything else source it elsewhere

[leaden ether]

Ah okay. Wel there are two nitrogen nodes available. It took one entire node to make 192 GW in my case. And that used mostly all the oilt so there is a spare :)

[sour ledge]

honestly, no matter where or what you do a rocket fuel factory is going to be massive because of all the generators. The giant lake is as good a place as any for it

[void belfry]

Lol my Mobile phone and computer have separate discord accounts

[open pollen]

This is what I am doing currently

[void belfry]

Does that work well? 🙂

[leaden ether]

I ended up building mine off the edge of the void due to it's size. But I only just now learned that you could actually blow up those giant corals and I would have had a much better time fitting it in -.-

[open pollen]

Yeah. I just built my big RF power place at the crater and I’ve built my factories for stuff elsewhere. And the power facility just sits there off to the side doing its thing

[void belfry]

The void seems great I tried to build under the void to get under the map but died

So yeah....trying to get into the underside of the map

So Hazmat suits...do they protect again radiation and poison?

[leaden ether]

Radiation mainly but you need iodine filters for it.

[void belfry]

Ah so you need iodine filters and the other filters

[minor gorge]

Hi guys, do we have any message from the dev about excessive crash ? I have been playing for years and recently my game is crashing all the time. I saw that I am not the only one

[void belfry]

So you need to dedicate 2 inventory slots....bit lame lol

[leaden ether]

Yeah, a stack of each in inventory and you're golden.

[void belfry]

So curious

[sly bloom]

wait what is the crater?

[void belfry]

Do those work if they aren't in your inventory?

[leaden ether]

Noooo. :)

[leaden ether]

THe blue crater lake area, S/E on the map

[void belfry]

What why not? What be the point of magic reality bending SAM if it doesn't let me pull out filters from the abyss

[leaden ether]

Heh... Well you can DD them but yeah, you need to pull out a stack to use them -.-

[void belfry]

Wait you can pull stuff from DD

[leaden ether]

With inventory open you can Drag and Drop items from the left into your inventory. You can also put them back though that doesn't really work if your DD is backed up with a storage unit

[void belfry]

Interesting

I need to research DD

[leaden ether]

For building, it draws from the DD automatially which is great. But for some things you still need to pull things out by hand. Like if you need something to open a crashed freighter and don't have the object already in your inventory.

[void belfry]

Well I just want this for belts tbh

Like seriously running out of belt supplies sucks

[marble girder]

Is there a good tool for drawing layouts for factories before doing them ingame?

[void belfry]

So is it possible to make a DD thing that downloads one item

[shy mulch]

'good' is subjective. There are lots of tools but I don't like any of them. I generally use paper

[sly bloom]

I wish they would add a smart junction

So i can make overflow lines

[leaden ether]

I wish there was one. There are a lot of factory calculators and such, but I'd kind of like one that would have all the machine sizes and let you lay them out quick and easy on a grid so you can plan your physical layouts without constantly creating and destroying machines in world. I actually though of cutting out pieces of paper and doing it old school :D

[shy mulch]

Like, smart splitters?

[sly bloom]

Exactly

[distant bay]

as soon as t3 is unlocked, should i rush Coal Power

[shy mulch]

What's wrong with smart splitters?

[leaden ether]

A fluid overflow line is pretty easy. Put a junction on the pipe you want overflow from, THen put a vertical pipe off of it up 8 meters and then over and then to wherever you want the overflow to go.

[sly bloom]

what? nothing wrong with smart splitters. I mean a smart splitter for pipes

[marble girder]

That definitely does not work for me. I tried SaLT but it was kinda confusing to use.

[shy mulch]

Depends if you have plenty power already then no need. If you need more power then might as well

[distant bay]

i just want to get off biomass

[shy mulch]

Wouldn't make much sense for pipes, as different liquids would get all mixed up

[sly bloom]

Okay so either i need to think about it or i can just place a smart junction. which is easier? i'd prefer a smart junction

[viral tendon]

There's genuinely no way to desrcibe how much hatred i have for turbo motor recipe

[sly bloom]

Just something to make an overflow setting

[shy mulch]

Plenty options, coal is most common. Or geothermal / power augmenter if you're committed enough

[leaden ether]

Well yeah but there is no smart junction. The harder one is the underflow junction because that can make you need to plan factory machine levels in weird ways. But the overflow can be done almost anywhere.

[shy mulch]

Or just plan backwards and only produce the fluids you need

[sly bloom]

yeah but like smart junction yk

[sly bloom]

It would still be nice

[leaden ether]

It would be nice to have both a smart junction and priority merger junction (The one I REALLY want). But.. till then the smart junction (THe overflow part) really is pretty simple to do.

[peak wasp]

Also mark 1 belts should be fine for DD correct?

uploads at a rate of 15 per minute

[sly bloom]

Btw just a random question, but what is yalls favorite thing to work with? fx it could be aluminum, Nuclear power, anything really

[latent tulip]

Hey one question can you get out of the dmging border?

[leaden ether]

Yes. If you move fast enough back the direction you entered it from.

[viral tendon]

trains

[latent tulip]

And can you build there too?

The map is so small

[leaden ether]

You can, though it'

[peak wasp]

I love how this game decided with its plot to say fuck it....we understand how much it sucks when you don't have the items you need...so lets just build in the ability to put everything into a magical pocket dimension

[latent tulip]

Will try it later

[leaden ether]

s a bit of a challenge doing long distance work on it :D You can only practically build as far as you can physically place items from inside the limit. Though there may be a mod that disables it, not sure.

[latent tulip]

I have builds in the space 🤣 12h work but got it

[leaden ether]

THey realize that beyond the scripted part of the game, people just want to build. And you do need to set up the factories just to make the items still. But the idea of having to constantly refill your inventory every few minutes when making something substantial was clearly not in the "fun" category.

[sly bloom]

Guys yall wanna see some leaks of my to be future mega factory?

[peak wasp]

Indeed its very good game design

[latent tulip]

I hope there will be much more stuff to research and farm

[peak wasp]

Plus I enjoy not storing all my items into chests

[latent tulip]

And it's weird there is only one map

[peak wasp]

just having it all available

wait...

can I just put all my hand tools into my DD

[ripe basin]

Good day my guys

[peak wasp]

and pull them out whenever I need them

[sharp sentinel]

Thinking of doing my first nuclear power stuff in Rocky Desert, far from my core factories. That way I can learn how to set it up to go the full way round without having to worry too much.

Plus I remember last time I did nuclear power it wasn't as difficult to get it going there.

[shut vigil]

whats th bind for headlamp?

[peak wasp]

Like say if I need a chainsaw.

[shy mulch]

Small? It's huge. Do you build vertically?

[peak wasp]

put it into DD and then pull it out whenever a tree bugs me

[latent tulip]

I build under the map and now in the space

[shy mulch]

Yep

[peak wasp]

That's fun

Plus I have put stuff in there from my inventory so I can just put it back

[shy mulch]

What on earth are you building that takes all the space available?

[viral tendon]

Now i need to make 1.5 crystal osciliators per minute and 2/4 of the turbo motor production is done

Fuckass game 🥀

[latent tulip]

I build trains everywhere and buildings from starwars types

[viral tendon]

So if i'm making 4.5 rcus and i need only 3.75, if i split one into manufacturer and one into sink, will it work like it should be?

Is there like priority splitter

[sharp sentinel]

I have two trains, two trucks, and seven drones so far.

[verbal charm]

i am pretty sure no

[shy mulch]

Just use a smart splitter and put overflow to sink

[viral tendon]

Ok i will discover it in sink

In mam

[arctic swallow]

overflow?

[peak wasp]

Man this game is so much better with DD

like it was already good but now its better

[viral tendon]

Dd is pretty peak

Love it

[lethal ocean]

I think, hypothetically, it is possible to make 1600 plastic out of 900 oil

[verbal charm]

yea when ur production requires less stuff than ur input

[arctic swallow]

DD?

[viral tendon]

Dimensional depot

[latent tulip]

We are on a server with some friends but we finish the game already and now we just building more stuff

[verbal charm]

its is no?

[peak wasp]

Now I need to figure out where to get more orbs

[arctic swallow]

that was an asnwer in a form of question

[viral tendon]

My dog's first bark sounded like dimensional depot

[verbal charm]

yas

[peak wasp]

magical mercer spheres

[viral tendon]

Tbh i use it only for aluminum things for belts

Because i use a LOT of belts

[lethal ocean]

I think so, it just requires you to basically duplicate rubber and plastics using the recycled alts

[verbal charm]

there are other uses for it other than belts?

[verbal charm]

or u know use loops

[viral tendon]

I od'nt remember how it's aclled

The one you use for belts mostly

[lethal ocean]

Other uses for sloops

[viral tendon]

Idk never used it for anything but belts

[latent tulip]

I wish there was more stuff to do

[sharp sentinel]

Do I work on nuclear, or scratch the itch to build a bunch of coal generators at Crater Lake, the place practically made for it...

[viral tendon]

Don't build coal gens

[sharp sentinel]

It's fun and relaxing.

[leaden ether]

Finishing the game is basically just finishing the tutorial. It's only then you finally know how everything works and can redo things right!

[viral tendon]

Do nuclear, BUT after unlocking plutonium rods

[sharp sentinel]

I've got all the tiers done and need to finish phase 4, but want to gather up some extra power first.

[verbal charm]

make fuel gens

[sharp sentinel]

I have those. I have 20GW of power right now, but I want more. MOAR I SAY MOAR!

[peak wasp]

Now I just need to figure out where to find more magical spheres

[verbal charm]

how many MW is GW?

[naive pendant]

The game uses in real life SI prefixes. M is 10^6. G is 10^9

[verbal charm]

oh damm i have 60gw

[undone brook]

God Satisfactory has taken over my days

[arctic swallow]

it should take over your life not only days

[peak wasp]

I also find it much easier when you have a bunch of random items not having to look around your entire base for that one weird item

[undone brook]

Ever since they added controller support…

[verbal charm]

yas it should take over ur soul and life not only ur days u need to play more

[arctic swallow]

soul doesn't have a physical form so it can't interact with the controler 🤓

[sharp sentinel]

Can't stop thinking about how yesterday I got too high and forgot I was using my jetpack midair while I swapped to another tab, and came back to find myself with 1 HP bar.

[undone brook]

When I get home I’m getting straight on

[undone brook]

Damnnnnn

[sharp sentinel]

I had no inhalers, so I was like please nothing see me.

[leaden ether]

On steam that got you an achievement.

[verbal charm]

sell ur soul to the game , to ficsit

to achive max efficiency

[arctic swallow]

without the soul the body is an empty vessal so it won't do anything

[undone brook]

76 hours

[frail sleet]

That works for liquid overflow, but not gas (which are technically both in the "fluids" category)

equal amounts of gas will go everywhere unless you have a much more hacky solution like putting 10 pipes in one direction and 1 pipe in the other

[undone brook]

My factory is a messssss

[arctic swallow]

🍝

[verbal charm]

nope promise ur soul goes to ficsit after death, thats what selling is

[undone brook]

Yesssssss

My fear is having too much going on at once and then I get overwhelmed

I chose the worst spot to start god damn

[tepid dirge]

Hi, ist there any1 that can tell me how to play multiplayer and inv some1 to my world when hes on steam and I am on epic

[versed mirage]

what should i do about no good resource nodes being near me should i go to the pure nodes and build on them then connect with power or conveyor everything over to one location

[warm walrus]

Could you yeet a cargo train filled with nuclear waste off the map?

To get rid of the waste

[sly bloom]

Hey guys, im constructing a mega factory, Any tips?

[sly bloom]

I like how you think

[cursive crane]

Sorry to tell you bud thats something wrong with your monitor or game Lol. Not there normally
Looks like dead pixels or something

[harsh steppe]

Hey guys, can someone take a look at this and tell me if they found the same problems?
https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1386067431893631017

[fathom shuttle]

Bro’s game install got aids

[fathom shuttle]

Definitely organize your pipes and belts in a nice way

Also have blueprints for all buildings, and double stack constructors and smelters

[sharp sentinel]

If I want to use a battery/geothermal to power a small factory, do I need to wait for the battery to reach full charge?

[fathom shuttle]

Yea to make sure you aren’t running a deficit

Or have enough time to recharge the batteries

[sharp sentinel]

If it wouldn't put it into my grid I'd connect it to a powerpole with my grid as fallback.

[sly bloom]

Yeah, I figured, those are pretty obvious, but any tips for making different sections?

[harsh steppe]

It's a normal install like any, the bugs are there for everyone, I was just asking if someone else saw them too

[radiant vapor]

does anyone know if i can make a 100 iron plates, screws, rods per minute factory using 4 mk3 miners

im unsure how to do it

[green fiber]

that statement is pointless without stating what the node purity is and if you use alt recipes

[fathom shuttle]

Overclock everything if you can, it will save you a lot of time

[radiant vapor]

normal nodes

no alternates

[green fiber]

max OC them all and thats 2400/min iron
I'd wager that yes thats enough for 100/min of each

[hard ivy]

Satisfactory Tools

[fathom shuttle]

That’s 2400/min iron ingots dude

[radiant vapor]

so i tried satisfactory tools

but im confused how it works

[green fiber]

you pick a product and set how much you want

[half scaffold]

reMarkable 🙂

[green fiber]

and it gives you a plan for how to make that much

[fathom shuttle]

Just put what you want to make (output) and disable converters

[radiant vapor]

it wont let me click the buttons

[green fiber]

what buttons

[radiant vapor]

the website broken

[fathom shuttle]

What?

[hard ivy]

Works fine for literally everyone else

[tender furnace]

Shittisfactory

[arctic swallow]

ban him

[green fiber]

We invented crap and perfected its production

[radiant vapor]

it works on operagx

[radiant vapor]

how do i unlock OC?

[green fiber]

MAM research

[radiant vapor]

ah i see

[green fiber]

find the funny slugs

[hard ivy]

You have mk3 miners but not OC?

[radiant vapor]

maybe i have mk2 or maybe i do have OC

im not sure

[green fiber]

then check please

[torn tartan]

AAAAAAAAAA I am creating 1100 aluminum per min how tf do you laod balance pipes hahahaha

[green fiber]

you dont

they decide how to flow

[clever merlin]

does lifts ouput to splitter wihtout having to connet with a belt ?

[green fiber]

yes

you can connect lifts directly to machines too

[torn tartan]

time to ask chatGPT

[clever merlin]

ok i though so just wont oput so i trying to figure out why

[radiant vapor]

fuck i got mk2

[torn tartan]

how to solve this

[versed mirage]

does the resource node purity really matter all that much

[radiant vapor]

i have 4 of the mk2 miners

and they all impure

[green fiber]

it can double or halve output so yes

[radiant vapor]

so the website shows these like lines and boxes im just confused

[green fiber]

the lines are belts or pipes between machines

a box is a number of machines making stuff

[radiant vapor]

so like if they have a constructor going to rods and another constructor going to screws how do i know where to split it?

[green fiber]

you dont. It doesnt tell you how to do the beltwork precisely
just how many machines you need and where stuff must go

[versed mirage]

what area would you say is best for like midgame idk im kinda stumped grasslands has like no good nodes 😭

[radiant vapor]

im too stupid for this

[green fiber]

then take a break

[radiant vapor]

so if it says 625/min going into a constructor and 750/min going into another constructor i need to break it up accordingly?

[leaden ether]

Grasslands has everything you need to get started. But yeah you need to move outwards as material needs rise. You will eventually be utilizing areas all over the map.

[radiant vapor]

i need a website that does the belt work lol

[green fiber]

it tells you exactly

1. how many machines you need to process stuff
2. how much they should proces

the rest is up to you

[versed mirage]

so should i just stick with this save? i dont know really what to do about my coal for steel should i just take some from my power plant or what

[radiant vapor]

i see

[green fiber]

if it tells you 625/min iron to 15 constructors, then you need to feed 15 constructors with 625/min
in total
not 625/min for each constructor

its just "how much" and "where to"

[astral moth]

Is turbofuel worth investing hard drive in...?

[green fiber]

used to be a "yes" answer now most say "no" because rocket fuel exists

[white dawn]

Its utility on its own is often up for debate, but yeah, if nothing else it's a stepping stone to Rocket Fuel

It's also a good jetpack fuel, so there's that

If you do have some spare sulfur+coal near your oil, IMO it's good for power as well. But I wouldn't seek out sulfur+coal specifically for Turbofuel power generation

[leaden ether]

There are two pure coal nodes at the southern end of the grasslands area where you can make things like versitile frames and other items. Also has caterium and copper and such. @versed mirage

[astral moth]

Okay thank you, when does rocket fuel become available though?

I'm currently completing the requirements for phase 3 of space elevator

[radiant vapor]

do you know how much a minute 4 impure mk2 iron miners make?

[white dawn]

Phase 4. And a bit late on in the phase, unless you stumble across the rocket fuel alt which lets you make it sooner

[versed mirage]

so should i build down there?

[sharp sentinel]

I've always seen people saying to remove fluid buffers. Is there ever a time to use them?

[green fiber]

trains

[astral moth]

I appreciate the support, I think I'll invest my hard drives to get that Alt oil to ROH instead. Thank you for the insight

[white dawn]

They're necessary for buffering in front of fluid train stations

[leaden ether]

Yes. Save the coal nodes near the lake to the N/W for your power plant.

[green fiber]

i'd say 60/min

you can check the build menu for the standard production rate of a miner

if it says "standard rate: 60/min" then thats how much you get on a normal node

impure halves it, pure doubles it

[versed mirage]

i already built a power plant there

[minor gorge]

Are you guys experiencing bugs ? After several crash, my key binds are now reseted randomly ...

[radiant vapor]

idk where the build menu is

oh you mean in game

[green fiber]

yes. Q

[leaden ether]

Yeah that area was pretty much made for a powerplant :D But the southern and eastern pard of the green grass area has quite a bit of stuff with some more items available (Sulfur and quartz) a little bit further to the east. Don't go into the blue crater area further east though.

[versed mirage]

should i remake my starter build for my regular iron plates rods cables and wires or will i just not need them as much anymore

i havent even automated concrete i kinda just have 10 portable miners on 1 node

[green fiber]

you'll always need that stuff
but be careful with "rebuilding"

build a new factory before you tear the old one down

[versed mirage]

yea i get what you mean

[green fiber]

you do NOT wanna suddenly stand there coming to the realization you ran out of materials to build

[white dawn]

Honestly at this stage of the game, just do whatever seems the most fun/interesting to you. And automate all the things! It gets easier once you have fully-automatable power

(Or at least: once you have fully-automatable power you won't have to spend time running around gathering biomass)

[versed mirage]

im just kind of in a daze

[white dawn]

Heh, it can be a lot. :)

[versed mirage]

like im lost asf on what to do i dont wanna build really far away and have to go back and forth

[white dawn]

You will eventually be encouraged to expand out and have factories all over the map. But really early game that's difficult since you've got basically no logistics options

The early game is honestly just kind of "do whatever you need to do to get to Phase 2," IMO

[versed mirage]

alright

[white dawn]

In the meantime just build factories near the nodes that are convenient for you; if you want to have a central area for item storage, go ahead and run some long conveyor belts, etc.

You might not like it later on, but you can always convert it to vehicle delivery or rebuild the factories, etc

(I tend to recommend against rebuilding for the sake of it, but you will doubtless eventually feel like doing so on your first playthrough. :)

[versed mirage]

should i just build on all the nodes i can around me

and what do you personally think i should automate next cuz i was gonna do rotors

[naive pendant]

Sounds like rotors

[green fiber]

automate what you need to.
you'll need everything eventually

just dont go overboard at first

[radiant vapor]

whats a recommended setup for screws, plates, rods with mk2 miners and 4 of them on an impure node

cause id rather just not overcomplicate this rn

[green fiber]

there is no specific recommended setup

[radiant vapor]

what would you do?

cause i suck

[green fiber]

I'd work out how much iron or whatever i need to make one machine producing rods or plates or screws

and then i can just check that against how much iron i have available

and just... scale up the amount

[radiant vapor]

well parts isnt a problem i got alot of iron

but its from my shitty gen that i waited all day for

[green fiber]

well then just... pick a number

[radiant vapor]

do you think 100 a min works on 4 impure nodes mk2?

[green fiber]

i pick a random ass value that i want for the parts that i wanna make and just build that

do YOU think 100/min is worth it?
idk. im not you

[open pollen]

Figure out how much of each product I roughly need (or want) and then calculate how many iron ingots I can make. Divy up the iron accordingly

[radiant vapor]

says mk2 extracts 120 per min

[green fiber]

if you dont wanna make 100/min now just make it later

[radiant vapor]

thats if its normal though right?

[green fiber]

you dont have to fully use the miner up

[green fiber]

yes if its a normal node

[radiant vapor]

ok so impure is 60

ok let me try this planner

so if i want 100 per minute the website says i need to be mining 275 a min and 4 is 240

so id be alittle less then that but thats fine

[green fiber]

doesnt seem right

just 100/min iron plates?

[radiant vapor]

no screws and rods too

[green fiber]

oh 100/min of all 3

[radiant vapor]

yeah so i can do prolly like 70 per min or something of all three

[green fiber]

275 is correct then

[radiant vapor]

yeah so im gonna produce 80 a minute just to make sure i got enough

[green fiber]

but 100/min iron rods is an ugly ass number for machines

pick like 90 or so

any multiple of 15

[radiant vapor]

yeah that works

and whats a good way to connect all 4 togeather cause a merger would just backup no?

[green fiber]

you can do
100 / 60 / 120
plates / rods / screws

thats uses 240/min iron total

[radiant vapor]

ok

[fathom shuttle]

What are you making them for tho

[radiant vapor]

just unsure how to connect 4 togeather cause would a merger mess it up or no?

[open pollen]

Why would you just need plain screws? Screws are only really needed for producing more complicated things so should be centered around how much is needed

[fathom shuttle]

Dimensional depot?

[green fiber]

idk what they are making them for

they just wanna do it

[fathom shuttle]

Splitter for the inputs and merger for the outputs

[green fiber]

you dont connect them all 4

[open pollen]

No a merger works fine

[sharp sentinel]

I can't believe I changed my factory colour from purple and it renewed my enjoyment of the game.

[radiant vapor]

wait so how do i get that output rate if thats what my math was for all 4

[open pollen]

Wait do they mean all 4 items on a merger?

[radiant vapor]

i need 240 iron per minute

so i need to use all 4 no?

[fathom shuttle]

All 4 what

[green fiber]

yes.
but you dont need to merge it all on one belt

[radiant vapor]

oh

[green fiber]

you just need to get 240/min iron into 8 smelters

no matter how

[radiant vapor]

oh crap ok

so like id still need to merge some of them right?

[green fiber]

maaaaybe?

[fathom shuttle]

Merge what bro?

[open pollen]

What items are you merging

[green fiber]

how about you check how much iron one smelter uses per minute

its iron ore guys

[radiant vapor]

id have to merge with like modules of 2

[fathom shuttle]

Each smelter is 30/min

[radiant vapor]

so like each 2 smelters gets its own belt

[sharp sentinel]

Cannot believe I went 100 hours in a save without ever putting a DD on iron rods.

[lament niche]

we sing to the effigy but the effigy does not reply. Why does it not reply?

[fathom shuttle]

Lol, I went 130 hours before I started doing the DD research lol

[sharp sentinel]

I have all of it done.

[vestal mica]

i'm stuck on how you have mk2 miners and you're trying to figure out how to make screws

[fathom shuttle]

Yea me too I went out for a couple of trips and got everything I needed

[sharp sentinel]

I kinda screwed around for awhile before really committing. I'd have times I'd just decide to focus on it.

[lament niche]

I went thousands of hour without ever building a DD.

I started in U3

[sharp sentinel]

Maybe he's just been screwing around.

[south sinew]

hmm

[fathom shuttle]

Ngl most of my hours is just milling around, or on my phone

[south sinew]

I have coal, silicon, and water available in my main base.. so I might just bring aluminium here and process it as part of the Monolith

[fathom shuttle]

That’s why I’m so unproductive

[sharp sentinel]

I notice you can buy hard drives from FiSCIT. Any point to doing it?

[fathom shuttle]

No

Waste of coupons imo

[vestal mica]

if you want to use them as decorations

[fathom shuttle]

Just go for a trip and gather 20 of them

[south sinew]

ok so looking at sloppy+pure vs default, 1 aluminium ingot costs me either 0.66 coal, 1.11 bauxite, and 0.44 water (sloppy/pure) or 0.5 coal, 1 bauxite, 1 water, and 0.5 quartz

seems like sloppy+pure eliminates a lot of complexity and quartz for a small increase in coal and bauxite

[fathom shuttle]

Yea the entire point of sloppy+pure is to get rid of the silicon step

So you’ll only need to input water, coal and bauxite

[south sinew]

yeah, I just wasn't sure how much actual quartz is saved vs how much bauxite/coal is cost

but it seems like there is only a small increase in bauxite/coal cost and a big saving on quartz

[fathom shuttle]

Well, using the default recipe with the silicon does give better yields but it’s not really worth it unless you need a lot of aluminum

[timber shoal]

does turbofuel work for drones if I cant reliably get them batteries?

[south sinew]

you can use packaged fuel/turbofuel/rocket fuel/etc yeah

[south sinew]

it looks like I'll need two 480/min bauxite nodes and can use my coal leftovers anyway so the small extra costs will not in practice impact me

[white dawn]

Yeah, Batteries and Packaged Rocket Fuel perform nearly identically in drones. Same flight speed, I think, and RF's got slightly higher energy density

[fathom shuttle]

Rocket fuel is more practical in terms of set up complexity FWIW

[vestal mica]

any oil nearby? you can use just a little and electrode scrap to save the coal

[fathom shuttle]

Took me half an hour to make a 300 crude to 1200 rf factory

[vestal mica]

and get more aluminum from the same bauxite

[fathom shuttle]

600/min packaged rocket fuel

[white dawn]

Eh, IMO only by a tiny bit. You need to spin up some aluminum to package the RF anyway, so the extra step or two for batteries often doesn't bother me

On my 1.0 save my drones were about 50% battery-powered and 50% RF-powered

Though I admit that the balance would shift if you happen to already have some spare aluminum; when I unlocked drones my already-built aluminum was already tapped out, which is why my initial drones went to batteries

[green fiber]

im mad that ficsonium is not a valid drone fuel

[warm walrus]

the world is unfair

[south sinew]

It's not that far away, I could use pet coke

[keen hawk]

i got tier 4 space elevator parts about 30 hours of playtime ago, but i havent even started producing any of them yet
i just got caught up on alum production and got tier 3 miners, now i need more bauxite and sulfur

my head is spinning because all the resources are so spread out and idk what to tackle

[open pollen]

I’m currently in a similar situation. At Tier 4 and am working on making all the items to eventually make the space elevator parts 😆

[keen hawk]

im thinking of getting started on the whole production/recycling chain for nuclear power

[south sinew]

ah yeah, pet coke... is actually way cheaper than I thought

[carmine musk]

yo i have a huge problem with my blueprint, i save it then it says blueprint file not found, it just dosent do anything or when it dosent say that it wastes my materials for the blueprint and places absolutely nothing down.

[south sinew]

I should maybe have been more considerate of alternates involving pet coke

[open pollen]

Personally I’m going through each more advanced item and focusing on one at a time ( but I am combining some in the same factory). I went with rocket fuel for my power needs for this great expansion lol

[keen hawk]

i just set up my heatsinks, now that i have enough power shards to deal with tier 3 250% miners

[south sinew]

I just built another 20GW of diluted fuel power, will turn it into RF later I reckon when I get that

dang HMFs are glugging all my concrete and encased industrial beams

[fathom shuttle]

Already ran out here lol

I’ll just use coal, which sucks because I’ll need to get a train for that

[south sinew]

looks like with HOR alt, it's 1 oil to 4 pet coke, so each pet coke is super cheap really

[fathom shuttle]

I’m using all the oil in blue crater lol

[tired cypress]

starting to think there's a minor bug with taking damage. a spitter ball can hit you several times, or several hatcher flies can hit you rapidly. hitstun works correctly (so you only take damage from one hit) but the sound/UI popup play for every hit.

so you only take damage once but you hear like 5 beeps

[radiant vapor]

this math and shit sucks

i suck at this its really making me upset i just wanna be able to make cool stuff

[steady glade]

go to steam, download the satisfactory modeler

[radiant vapor]

is it easier then satisfactory tools?

[steady glade]

for the most part yes its easier for planning a production chain

[vestal mica]

not really imo. it's better for planning out the actual build when you already know what you're doing

[radiant vapor]

am i the only one that struggles with the math i feel stupid

[vestal mica]

but tools is better for just seeing what you can make with resources on hand. or for seeing what resources would be needed to make some target end product

[radiant vapor]

i am a math idiot to begin with

[torn tartan]

lol I didn't take into account of the 1000 water I have to recycle for aluminum

[leaden turret]

you only need math to make cool stuff that works properly

you can make cool stuff that doesn't work properly without using math

[radiant vapor]

well i want it to be efficient

[vestal mica]

you're screwed then. math required

[radiant vapor]

does someone wanna join my world and help lol

[leaden turret]

something that does not work is 0% inefficient and is therefore 100% efficient

[radiant vapor]

i just wanna add splitters and mergers and have it be efficient

[steady glade]

after you read the heko and get familiar with the program, here's a quick tip: it's better to explicitly set the resource amounts or final item ppm count so it doesnt just calculate and show the minimum required amount as opposed to what YOU want/need

[steady glade]

manifolds (splitters/mergers in line) are easier to set up, they just take slightly longer to fill up machines

[radiant vapor]

you know what

its not hard math

im just sort of confused and i am pretty bad at math

[barren dove]

you need the satisfactory calculator website ❤️

[steady glade]

balancers (mergers for exact separation) get your machines up and running quick but take space, so use them when you want to partition an exact count, allowing the rest to flow somewhere else

[radiant vapor]

is it better then satisfactory tools im confused

[steady glade]

it depends how you feel about it, id say yes

[radiant vapor]

how can i tell it to use mk2 miners instead of mk3 inside the planner?

[leaden ether]

Most people think that tools is the best However, not everyon's minds work the same and the others may or may not work better for you. I can tell you that whether you want it to happen or not, this game will make you really good at doing simple math in your head by the end :D

[vestal mica]

calculator site? for planning? it's not good

use it for its map

[sharp sentinel]

The only tool I use is the Calculator app on my PC, the biome map on the wiki, and then just Radar ingame everywhere.

[radiant vapor]

the reason im confused is cause it will say to use 7 smelters which is fine but then i need to figure out how many belts and where they need to go so if it says 233per minute into 8 smelters then i have to figure out how to distribute it evenly and i find that hard

cause when i got 4 belts idk how to do that

[sharp sentinel]

I hate how lategame stuff will be producing like 1.675 of an item.

[radiant vapor]

when is someone gonna make an AI mod

[steady glade]

4 belts mk1 can feed 8 smelters

[radiant vapor]

that lets you pre see what you should do or premakes the belts

[radiant vapor]

i got a mk2 miner

[clear aspen]

It’s over anakin, I have the high ground

[radiant vapor]

and mk3 belts

[fathom shuttle]

Same

[vestal mica]

if you have mk3 belts, you don't really need to figure out how to "evenly distribute it" just use manifolds and let the overflow eventually even out the distribution

[steady glade]

mk2 miner on normal node -> 120ppm and mk3 belts -> 270 ppm

[radiant vapor]

my head hurts

[steady glade]

you can overclock one mk2 miner to saturate the mk3 belt but otherwise krumpps is right, just use a manifold, it'll all work itself out in a few minutes

[vestal mica]

what's the command to link a wiki search?

[steady glade]

long story short, if you dont really need to spare resources to divert to a second line, dont bother with even distribution, just have your machines in line

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch

And replace spaces with + in your query

[radiant vapor]

so it doesnt even matter if its even?

yk what fuck this math

i give up im just making it however the fuck i want im sad its not gonna be efficient but its what ever i give up on this math]

[steady glade]

pretty much, as long as there's enough or more input than needed, it'll work

[south sinew]

It will even itself out over time. It's a naturally self-correcting system.

[sharp sentinel]

Can drones go to more than one port?

[leaden ether]

I don't think so. (I stil hope I'm wrong) I mean I tried and could not get it to work. It LOOKS like it can work but then doesn't. But maybe I was doing something wrong. I wanted the fuel drones to go to more than one port to top off fuel in a circuit and I could not make it do that. (The doesn't work part is the drone goes from point A to point B but then sits there forever and never goes to point C or even back to A)

[sour pilot]

no

[sour ledge]

y'know i am typically a firm member of team "Build new factories, don't rebuild old ones"

just slap a smart splitter and a sink on the old stuff at most and let it do its thing

but i can't help but look at these two pure nodes i dedicated to coal power with a gleam in my eye

[elder apex]

drones always go to at most 2 ports, their home port and their destination port

[leaden ether]

I dunno, I put some good efforts into mid level factories then late game needed like twice the output of each. They were sitting on prime realestate and resources and using old non alt recipes in many cases. As long as I was having to build more, it was a lot more soothing in my mind to just tear down the old jank and rebuild fresh.

I then tore down my initial phase factories as they were complete trash and uglifying up the landscape :D

[south sinew]

gotta admit, I didn't think I'd be on Tier 7 and making a blueprint for smelters

[leaden ether]

Heh when the plans call for 96 of something...

[leaden turret]

drones can go to one port, they can also go to one starboard

[south kindle]

finally unlocked nice building pieces

feels good

[sharp sentinel]

I feel so dumb. I spent like ten minutes staring at the ocean trying to figure out how I'd get that water up to my nitrogen node. Then I remembered I can move nitrogen way easier.

[south sinew]

I just used pumps to pump ocean water up 450 meters

[sharp sentinel]

And the iron nearby I can drop with conveyors.

[sour ledge]

honestly, i do similar for factories near the ocean. A huge pillar (i like steel frame pillars, myself) that goes into the ocean, usually several, to 'support' the factory above it. And since i have those pillars, there's nothing stopping me from running power outlets down it to handle all the pumps+water producers, so.... absolutely gigantic ocean devouring pipe it is.

[peak wasp]

#screenshots message

is this fine?

[south sinew]

you might need a pump and it might be kinda ugly but otherwise sure why not

[peak wasp]

I have a mk2 pump that brings everything up

[sour ledge]

it does make me feel like it's too bad you can't build SuperPipes as connectables that can't be directly attached to machines, though. Something the width of the fluid buffer, but like... as a giant pipe.

[boreal laurel]

Alright... is it worth mixing materials in transports?

[sour ledge]

imho absolutely not

you have to balance the material production/consumption very carefully if you do that, and like... it can be done, but that's some planning time that could be much better utilized

[boreal laurel]

I feel like I'm going to have an aneurysm

[mild finch]

eh, looks structured but the pipe isn"t straight, looks odd

[south sinew]

hmm

[mild finch]

i've been fixing my turbofuel powerplant for the past hour, can relate

[boreal laurel]

Yeah the issue with mixing materials in transports is that it's gonna ALL get backlogged the moment one of the resources gets backed up. I've seen somebody do a little circuit type thing that lets you re-route excess materials into storage/a sink

[south sinew]

sloppy alumina into electrode alumina is a bit awkward.. I'm doing a 5:6 split and the fluid is too heavy for a single pipe

[mild finch]

time for the odd ratios

[boreal laurel]

My problem is I don't have anything unlocked now aside from vehicle transport and conveyors, and I think cross-country conveyors are super ugly 😭

[mild finch]

you can make very overbuilt bridges, looks fun

[sour ledge]

could also just do... multiple trucks? or just wait to build that far out until you have rail

truthfully i usually just don't bother bringing my 'production' together until rail. like my first plastic factories and stuff'll be way out there away from my original base, but s'fine... dimensional hookups will do until i get more reliable transport

i also am just a garbage driver though, and since the only way to set a truck route is to drive it myself that ends how you'd expect.

[boreal laurel]

I need to build that far out for certain materials I don't have ready access to. Multi trucks are also kind of ugly. Part of the issue might definitely be that I'm trying to scale up before I have the tools to do so. But I feel like I'm committed to it now 😭

[south sinew]

mkay screw it, I'm just gonna add more refineries than I technically need and let them be idle a bit

[mild finch]

or underclock them, those yellow lights look ass

[south sinew]

I could underclock them but not worth the effort I feel

[mild finch]

satisfactory modeler and blueprints really help with that

[sour ledge]

well, depending how much you need transferred how fast you might be able to do a "Get Material A to Point B, then Material C to Point D" with a single truck doing multiple materials, but never mixing them. You'd just want a sink on the receiving end making sure it always emptied out when dropping off.

i dunno if i said that in a way that makes sense lol

[boreal laurel]

No it makes sense. I have 3 resources a decent way off from my factory but also grouped very close. So I was trying to transport them all together in one go.

[sour ledge]

ah yeah, you're uh... prolly not gonna have a good way to do that pre trains

[boreal laurel]

😭

[sour ledge]

i mean you could do TEMPORARY mega belts

build what will later be your railroad, just without rails on it yet, and run the belts across it 🤷

then if you don't like the super long conveyors you can scrap and replace with rail pretty easy once you get there

[sharp sentinel]

Is Paradise Island just pure flex from the devs on how pretty everything could be?

[leaden turret]

no, that's what spire coast is.

paradise island hasn't been touched

[mild finch]

what about doing small setups till you get the trains? i've had trains for a while already and my biggest project yet runs solely on belts and pipes

[sharp sentinel]

oh, I'm touching it. So pretty 😭

[sour ledge]

throw a nuke at it

bring it back in line with the rest of the planet

[leaden turret]

🏖️ 🏖️ 🏖️

[boreal laurel]

Alright I'm giving up it's conveyor highway time

[leaden turret]

belt all the things 👍

[boreal laurel]

I think two resources in a depot is doable but once you have three it's just too much

[mild finch]

took heavy inspiration on kibitz's, i think his look pretty good

[south sinew]

ok, I do not actually have a 5:6 split, I actually have 2:2 and 3:4, and 3:4 I can solve just like coal generators with one input in the middle

[mild finch]

why not just one pipe?

[south sinew]

it's 900 fluid/min

[mild finch]

can get weird when you have a ton of machines, but i did it in my save, and while it didn't work for 16 machines in a row filling a full pipe (necessicated a janky fix) it worked for 12 in a row filling a 450 pipe

[mild finch]

from 3 machines?

oh wait yes sloppy alumina

[south sinew]

they are 650/min the 3 machines

[mild finch]

forgot those insane rates

[south sinew]

but now I've gotta figure out how I'm gonna get 6 machines into 4 belts of scrap kek

seems like 2x 3:2

so split the middle one

[mild finch]

split each machines output, and you have twelve belts, then combine three by three meguess

oh nvm your solution is a lot less crappy

[south sinew]

uh yeah not to crow but I prefer mine ;p

[mild finch]

oh, i can totally understand, i'm the type of person that does abominations with odd rates

[south sinew]

mkay so

4 belts of scrap into 26 smelters.. 4 sets of 7 smelters a pop should do the trick

huh smelters are tiny, maybe I can actually fit them in here

whoah yep

[viral tendon]

How do i use programable splitter if i have 2 uneven outputs

Like use overflow on the one that's going into sink?

[spiral summit]

isnt bolted iron plate the one alt recipe that is more wasteful right?

[viral tendon]

Who knows

[round ocean]

anybody else having issues with join friends on steam rn?

[sharp sentinel]

Haha, none of my friends want to play with with me. So I mean sorta, but no.

Plutonium Fuel Unit worth it?

[sharp rivet]

i won

i was talking in chat in multiplayer and it kept skipping stuff .-.

[mortal ginkgo]

yes, but dont use it if you cant make ficsit fuel rod

[sharp sentinel]

I rescanned it, not at the point I want to bother with it yet.

[sharp rivet]

what cargo did they take at the end .-. i thought all the stuff was for shipping so what was the actual cargo

[south sinew]

oh fuckshitballs

turns out I actually started my factory under the space elevator

gonna have to move that...

[radiant vapor]

ima develop software

[south kindle]

Should i make the space elevator it's own structure? As in not attached to a factory?

[radiant vapor]

for me to use that helps me more

im a good programmer not math person

[south sinew]

give it some distance

[south kindle]

Thanks!

[south sinew]

otherwise you may find yourself being unable to expand the factory because the damn spelevator is blocking it

[south kindle]

idk I do like verticality

[south sinew]

me too

at about 500m the spelevator gets wider

[south kindle]

atm my biggest problem is moving away from biofuel

[sharp sentinel]

If I want to add to a train to load something at a specific stop and unload I have to put in buffer stations and align it with the right freight car, right?

[south sinew]

yes

[undone yarrow]

Coal generators are love

[south kindle]

but I got a nice processing line running for biofuel and now I can just conveyor belt fuel as needed

Eventually I'll have solar fields and nuclear plants

[sour ledge]

unless you're a psychopath (... like me) who got real tired of that, and uses single freight car trains+stations for absolutely everything and just makes more stations.

[south sinew]

satisfactory doesn't have solar powre

[south kindle]

with mods it does

[south sinew]

fair

[sour ledge]

we have nuclear! it's solar power, but we have our own sun at home.

[undone yarrow]

The sun is Nuclear Fusian where as ours is Nuclear Fission

[sour ledge]

s'a little smaller but its so much closer.

[sour ledge]

meh, give it a patch or three! we'll get fusion generators!

[south kindle]

I will need to build a prison/nuclear waste disposal ground around the spaghetto

[undone yarrow]

I suppose Ficsonium might be doing Fussion

[sharp sentinel]

Can I at least snap a new station on the line or do I have to delete it and reattach?

[sour ledge]

in the interest of me being right, i've decided that's exactly how it works.

on no other basis than that's really convenient thinking for me, thank you.

[atomic notch]

Thought you were talkin about excited photonic matter or smth

[south kindle]

idk if photons are matter or capable or excitement

maybe tho. I once had a wild thought that a wizard cast a spell to turn all reality into space ships and those space ships are photons and allow the wizard to control the universe

[sharp sentinel]

Hm... Overcharge a turbo-fuel refinery already in place or make another one just for sending to my upcoming rocket fuel factory...

[south kindle]

two factory

for phallic reasons

[sharp sentinel]

oh. I already have one doing absolutely nothing.

[south kindle]

nice

[sour ledge]

a factory doing nothing? i'm amazed ada hasn't flipped her lid...

ficsit does not waste 😦

[atomic notch]

Idk man i just let the converter do its thing

[winter spoke]

are there mods for like "shifting" buildings saving their parameters/inventory and connected conveiors?

[atomic notch]

Ficsit.app

[cyan garnet]

You can move stuff around with a save editor (SCIM)

[south sinew]

ahhhhhhhh hoverpack

[winter spoke]

nah, I want to do some minor tweaks while building without needing to do many clicks to destroy and build again to find out building is still not aligned as I need

[atomic notch]

Better placement ig. Idk of anything like that

[covert talon]

What’s the bind to build a bunch of something at once?

[south sinew]

press R to change the build mode to Zoop

[radiant vapor]

ok i watched some videos the math isnt that bad now lol

[void belfry]

When do we get anti matter reactors?

[south sinew]

I'm having a little trouble with my water for aluminium.. I'm pumping it up 500 metres, I used some pump mk2s built at the snap point, checked each one and the headlift is under 55m, the pipes are full except where the vertical pipe ends and the horizontal pipe begins, it's only 240/minute going up a mk2 pipe so the pipe should be more than able to handle it

[dense violet]

in this game? no it's all addition/subtraction

[south sinew]

any suggestions?

[dense violet]

some divisiion

[sour ledge]

1.6

[radiant vapor]

yeah i just had trouble with the factory planner cause you still gotta evenly distribute it based on what it says

[dense violet]

which one?

[radiant vapor]

vq

crap i cant send the video

[dense violet]

just say the name of it

[radiant vapor]

but also does anyone know if dedicated servers the factories run even when your offline also if the server handles the rendering for you

so like it makes the game run smoother cause its on the server or no

DSJeezy made the video

[dense violet]

well servers running off line is their 1 job
and it'll only be 'smoother' if it runs better than your computer

[radiant vapor]

yeah i mean if i pay for an expensive AWS like super overkill server

[south sinew]

is it normal for the headlift reported by a pump to fluctuate? getting a little nervous when some of them are at like 54.8m

[radiant vapor]

when i mean server rendering i literally mean if the server can make it better ofc if its a shit server itll be laggy and worse

[atomic notch]

U can just throw more on wouldnt hurt

[dense violet]

SCIM?
Tools?
Factorio lab?
Modeler?

[radiant vapor]

modeler apparently is the easiest

[dense violet]

it's the shittest

[radiant vapor]

i dont i love it

[dense violet]

takes 100x as long to do anything

[atomic notch]

Tbh they all suck but yall wont think for yourselves anyway

[radiant vapor]

i think people just dont know how to do it idk though

i dont even need a big iron factory

[dense violet]

tools takes a little bit of practice and poking through the options, but it's very fast and easy after that https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[radiant vapor]

im on phase 2 i need steel production i just wanna make it for fun

[leaden ether]

There is a mod for that I saw, it's released for 1.1 but the desc says there are a couple caveats.

[radiant vapor]

im playing the game where i make a factory for everything

[dense violet]

no, it's just that you need to do every step manually

[dense violet]

for example this took me literally 1 second https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=Gu4XrXslWm5wrlDvCiGE

[radiant vapor]

im just confused cause when it says oh you need this much iron into 7 smelters ok so now i need to figure out how to split it evenly myself and thats the hard part

[radiant vapor]

if you want you can join a game with me and teach me lol

[dense violet]

one belt

[radiant vapor]

but then what if it gets in some of them before the other smelters

or is that what a load balencer is for

[dense violet]

what happens when the first machine fills up

[radiant vapor]

ill literally pay you $10 USD to help me lol

[radiant vapor]

it moves on

[dense violet]

and then?

[radiant vapor]

but what if the first machine finishes first and then doesnt let the others move on?

[dense violet]

have you heard the word 'manifold' before?

[radiant vapor]

yeah manifold

[dense violet]

and you know what it is?

[radiant vapor]

your asking me to make a manifold ik what you mean

its when its not evenly distributed

its more of a priority system

[atomic notch]

bruh

[dense violet]

ok so teh beauty of belt manifolds, is that as long as the belts are fast enough to move the items, and you have at least enough items, it self balances

so it'll run at 100% in a short time

[south sinew]

the ugly is that there's often nothing short about that time

[radiant vapor]

so will a manifold always become 100% filling cause i feel like if i had like a stupid amount of smelters the manifold wont work cause the game simply doesnt have a fast enough belt

[dense violet]

ignore puppy, they are incredibly wrong. (unless it's like wire or something but you can do something else in the mean time)

[dense violet]

well I did give you the 2 conditions?

[south sinew]

ok, pipeline pump mk2s seem to be a little less accurate with the snap point than mk1s

[dense violet]

1. fast enough belt for the parts per min
2. at least enough parts per min

[south sinew]

solved problem by moving them to right before the snap point

[sour ledge]

'short' time being uh, relative. i've had manifolds that took over an hour to balance because they were so long and there was so little extra in the system.

You can always speed up a manifold by just tossing sloops around temporarily tho

[atomic notch]

Im stressin so hard rn tryna not make a mean comment but like use your brain dude if you cant figure out belt inputs and outputs how you gonna beat the game lol

[dense violet]

I did mention the wire thing...
"(unless it's like wire or something but you can do something else in the mean time)"

[radiant vapor]

so basically a fast enough belt to handle the ppm of the smelter so that it can handle the ppm of the smelter and enough parts to feed that ppm?

[dense violet]

that's all you need.

you never need a load balancer anywhere.

but if you like them, you do you

[radiant vapor]

ok so if it says in the calculator that i need lets say 240 ores a minute how would i connect that to my manifold?

cause the manifold has 1 input

[south sinew]

ah finally tier 5 belts

[dense violet]

you don't know about splitters?

[south sinew]

goodbye overexpensive mk4 belts

[radiant vapor]

i do

[dense violet]

how much of hte game have you played?

[radiant vapor]

dude i have 30 hours

[atomic notch]

Now way this isnt rage bait

[radiant vapor]

im just stupid

i can send you a ss if you dont believe me

[dense violet]

ok, well.. splitters. the thing that splits belts

put a splitter in front of the smelters

[atomic notch]

How tf u gonna make a manifold without splitters

Thats what a manifold is

[radiant vapor]

i know but the splitter only has so many inputs

[dense violet]

you can build multiple

[atomic notch]

/wikisearch manifold

[radiant vapor]

is this what kibitz does

cause kibitz seems to do stuff so well

[dense violet]

almost everyone uses manifolds here, just watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUbNdBT3zPo

[dense violet]

ignore the injection part, it's pretty dumb

[blissful violet]

How can i get rid of nuclear waste? I dont want to massively store it or reprocess it, is there any other good way? Thats doesnt affect game performance since putting it in the ground does so

[sour ledge]

this is the splitter array i use for manufactory manifolds, when sushi doesn't work. this screenshot was actually from when i was asking about good solutions in this discord:

#screenshots message

[radiant vapor]

i think you reuse it

[dense violet]

!wikisearch uranium_waste

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=uranium_waste

[dense violet]

praise the wiki, love the wiki

[atomic notch]

Should get an ai in here that just answers all the how do i questions lmao

[blissful violet]

wiki says what i mentioned that i want to avoid lol

[dense violet]

well you mentioned you wanted to avoid the only 2 optiopns in existence

[radiant vapor]

so is the planner really just to give me a base idea of what i need so like if it says i need 240 ores a minute then i just take belts mining 240 or maybe alittle more then 240 and provide that to the smelters using load balancers and thats great but then lets say it says 120ppm for the 7 constructors and 160 ppm for 8 smelters how would i work that out to split them evenly?

[dense violet]

you can also manually flush it 1 by 1 in the toilet

[radiant vapor]

would i have to get the ppm of like one machine and then take the max ppm i need and devide it by the number of ppm of the machines i have to get the amount of machines i would use for that constructor?

[dense violet]

one belt, assuming your beltg can move 280

[covert talon]

Anyone have a good tutorial on how to make big organized factories

[radiant vapor]

yeah but that wont work if some consctructors need more ppm no?

[dense violet]

google 'a satisfactory way to build' , good web page.

but it's mostly practice and planning

[dense violet]

what will happen when those constructors are full

[radiant vapor]

oh shit right no matter what as long as the consctructor order of the parts is right it doesnt matter it gets the right amount of parts eventually

[dense violet]

the other thing you can do is use Clocking.

[atomic notch]

Look man if splitters and mergers are too much to understand just do 1-1

[dense violet]

set up 1 group of machines making 160 and only merger those, and then make a second group making 120

[radiant vapor]

nah im starting to understand

[dense violet]

thats an easier option when you want the locations to be different

[atomic notch]

Well you definitely opened my eyes a bit lol

[radiant vapor]

i do electrical work irl so idk why this is so hard

and like working with chips and shit

[flint spade]

how do i kill myself

in game

[sour ledge]

push escape, hit respawn

if you wanna get creative: poisons, explosions, hug a spider...

[flint spade]

makes sense

was stuck in a hole

[sour ledge]

haha yeah, been there... my lack of good sense is why i try to avoid doing much exploration pre-jetpack

[shy mulch]

there should be an arachnophile mode, turn everything into spiders

[sour ledge]

make it work the same way as the arachnophobe mod - the other creatures just get a weird lookin sticker of a spider face slapped on 'em lol

could prolly make a mod for that pretty easy, there's already a mod to change the 'coverup' in aracnophobe mode to community manager headshots

[flint spade]

got distracted and accidentally made 98 portible miners💔

[shy mulch]

only 98? make lots

you can put 98 on a single node 😄

[radiant vapor]

i just bought imkibitz patreon so i can get his save and see how he does stuff

holy shit i am inspired by his shit lol

[sour ledge]

anyone gotten an absolutely impossible throughput count using the new throughput monitor thing

[sharp sentinel]

I am finally making rocket fuel! Wooo!

I still haven't made a single project part for phase 4. 🙂

[dense violet]

I would really not try to mimic Imkibitz.
the only thing about his saves is that they are 'big'

terrible piping

[sour ledge]

like... this belt has three assemblers on it producing 4.444 rotors/m each. It is physically impossible for more'n 13-14 rotors to go through a minute, there's no backlog. but after a 1 minute calibrating it says there's 31/minute going through????

[dense violet]

from the videos I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of it stutters

[sour ledge]

the real end game design challenge: maximizing frames.

[dense violet]

one reason to just not bother with counters? you know what you're putting on each belt. You make the system.

[ivory condor]

Anything at 1 frames is maximized

[sharp sentinel]

Woo! Just two nodes left in the MAM.

[atomic notch]

oh yeah kibs world is straight comedy rn

bros got 2 hours of battery while like 10k over

[low vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/hamster-hamsteronspoon-cute-gif-22930768

[atomic notch]

then hes like no i dont need 15 fuel gens

[sour ledge]

yeah i was just trying to use it because im trying to ghetto repurpose an old factory with a buncha shards and stuff to still contribute a little to the bigger picture, and im not really sure what it's actually producing vs what it can anymore - at the time it was just into storage to get me through tiers, so i didn't sweat the small stuff or perfectly balance machine ratios. i did find out what was going on with the counter tho and fixed it so all's well

i ended up accidentally having my stators come out near-ish my old rotor factory and was like "That's a sign from destiny to make motors here" lol

[dense violet]

so just over flow stuff and accept the output if you're not going to actually remake stuff?

[radiant vapor]

i think he does a good job

[sour ledge]

yeah, since im repurposing to actually be used upstream it's nice to know how much is coming out, though - especially since this save is reaching rail. Like i said tho i got it figured out.

just put a lil marker on the factory on the map noting its motor output so i can dedicate a station to it later

[atomic notch]

looking from the bottom of the mountain

he does fine but hes not the best just the scale of everything is crazy

so you cant really do bad on a large scale

bc error adds up

[dense violet]

all it is is very basic facotories, but big. And terrible piping. don't copy his piping

[wicked grove]

i almost died bc my power plant across the entire map switched to 1kw of power just to find out the polymer resin containers were full

[cyan garnet]

Send the resin to an awesome sink, not containers

[dense violet]

why would you store it? what bones said

[atomic notch]

You didnt build enough storage you need a few thousand hours worth of storage

[wicked grove]

i didnt have enough mats to build it at the time and forgot about it because i started building a larger scale version