satisfactory

[stark solar]

esthetics is not a word

[carmine bear]

yeah, im dumb LOL. mb

[winter ruin]

They are the same thing just can be spelled 2 diffrent ways

[stark solar]

no, not dumb. Don't put yourself down.

[carmine bear]

thats where i started. finished, and no joke, IMIDIATELY made rocket fuel 😭

[winter ruin]

Still only in tier 6 so I dont have rocket fuel yet

[carmine bear]

crashes the game? weird. is your device a bit on the older side?

[winter ruin]

cpu kinda is, its the ryzen 7 5800x and I have the rx 6750xt for the gpu

and 32gb of ram

[carmine bear]

lucky LOL

im running an i5 2400 XD

[winter ruin]

how is your game running?

poor cpu is about to explode from all the rocket fuel

[carmine bear]

averaging 20 fps, though it stutters a good bit. (gpu is an rx580 8gb)

[ember locust]

apparently it's a (mainly US) alternate spelling

[carmine bear]

fr LOL. i kid you not, when i place a conveyor, the game freezes for about half a second XD

[winter ruin]

rx580 is fine for running the game, the cpu im not so sure

This summer im buying a ryzen 7 9700x and either a 5070 or 5070ti

and likely 64gb of ram depending on how much I have left over

[carmine bear]

nope. mine runs at 3.10 ghz. the reccomended cpu runs at 3.40

[carmine bear]

nice.

[winter ruin]

Clock speed isn't everything, how many cores does it have?

More cores means it can run at a lower clock speed

[carmine bear]

4 cores, 4 threads. ik clock speed isnt all of it. but it just makes it a wee slower lol

[winter ruin]

uh

yeah you might wanna upgrade that

[carmine bear]

might? LOL.
low key, i just got a job, so ill probably end up upgrading it soon. XD

[winter ruin]

Same here

[carmine bear]

anyway, ty for the fun chat! imma go work on rocket fuel again XDD.
take care!

[winter ruin]

Aint saving nothing until I upgrade

Ok good luck with that

[carmine bear]

honestly, i've contemplated quitting satisfactory till i upgrade, but i dont really care about fps. so, as long as my pc lives, ill push its limits hehehe

[winter ruin]

As long as I get 30fps and it doesn't stutter I dont care

[stark solar]

Hopefully the upgrade will feel all the sweeter after having suffered a slow gaming PC for this long

[winter ruin]

but, im having alot of gpu related issues so thats why im upgrading

[ember locust]

lol this is my approach too. defaulting to anything between 5-20 fps when i havent even built anything in the world yet and i couldnt care less (i could actually, i am just coping)

[carmine bear]

LOL.
the only other thing that makes my time more frustrating is my mouse. old, kinda cheap, and screws around XD. but hey, what's life without its trials and tribulations?

[stark solar]

Have you considered playing with a gamepad? It's actually a decent experience

[honest void]

Is there any shape that can fill this shape of hole? #screenshots message

[winter ruin]

Outer corner roofs

unlockable in awesome shop

[honest void]

I have the tilted concave walls that look like the right shaped but are upside down
I think I got every foundation in the shop

[winter ruin]

Should be in the architecture tab

[stark solar]

A lot of the time it's not obvious a roof piece will fit until you rotate it just right

[ember locust]

i can relate :') i bought a new mouse after having used the same crustly old one for like 3-4 years and it works wonders. but my game is still so slow it misses inputs. i legit have to hold down the escape button for a second to open the menu LMAO

[honest void]

I see it when looking at the item I already bought in the shop but don't see the piece in my build menu??

I finally found it. Thank you guys

[carmine bear]

oh no 😭
yeah, my mouse has issues with the wheel... turning things can be a pain.
spins wheel in one direction
mouse: left? right? definitely right. wait- lefT?

[leaden ether]

Sounds like trying to drive the cyber wagon

[honest void]

If I have a factory and get rid of all the floor foundations to redo it, the factory's buildings won't stop working right?

[stark solar]

Floors are not necessary for machines

[leaden ether]

Not unless you accidentally delete something that is not a foundation :)

I did this myself once. 7 floors of factory.

[carmine bear]

basically.

[frozen falcon]

I acccidentally found uranium in a cave sinec I'm collecting mycelium

Do I stay away from it, I'm on like phase 2 still

[stark solar]

Stay away from it

Never collect any uranium unless you are doing nuclear power.

[ember locust]

LMAO your mouse would invent a new direction just to spite you

[frozen falcon]

Why can't I just collect it early

[stark solar]

If you have a radiation suit, you might collect it and then scrap it just to get it gone from the map

[carmine bear]

fr 🙏

[stark solar]

orar: Holding uranium exposes you to high levels of radiation

[frozen falcon]

Even in inventory?

[elder apex]

especially in your inventory

[stark solar]

Even in inventory, yes.

[mortal ridge]

@harsh current 0611126990

[frozen falcon]

Welll when I unlock nuclear power atleast ion gotta look for uranium

[stark solar]

If you pick up uranium, you will likely die before you can put it down

[frozen falcon]

I got irradiated in a random area on the surface too actuallu

#screenshots

I replied to the screenshot

[stark solar]

(also, just so you know, it is perfectly reasonable to never use nuclear power, even once you have it unlocked - rocket fuel can carry you to endgame)

[mortal ridge]

0611126990

[frozen falcon]

If only I had friends so I can throw uranium at them

[carmine bear]

if only you could throw things 😔

imagine chucking ores into the void. that'd be fun

[mortal ridge]

call me i lose my pohone @harsh current or someone

0611126990

[stark solar]

Are you sure it's wise/safe to share your phone number on someplace as public as a discord server?

[bold wedge]

bro i died and lost my entire inventory even though it was on "keep everything"

[plucky arrow]

Cc

[ember locust]

how did you die? maybe that played a factor

[bold wedge]

aha......

i hypertube canoned myself out of the map way too far

[stark solar]

Ah, you're kinda asking for trouble, doing that

[bold wedge]

no i know im not complaining

[leaden ether]

Maybe your stuff ended up at 0,0,0

[bold wedge]

its just weird cuz every other death from being out of the map still kept my items

[leaden ether]

I lost a couple dismantle crates there

[peak wasp]

quick question

If I have a fuel of 26.667

Then I split it to 2 generators

1 generator will be on 100% will take 20 fuel
1 generator will be on 33% and will take the 6.667

I will design it as a manifold

will it balance itself like a belt?

[leaden ether]

Yes

[bold wedge]

yes

[plucky arrow]

no

[bitter lodge]

Manifolds always balance with enough time :> (and of course resources)

[bitter lodge]

why would it not?

[bold wedge]

buddy

[plucky arrow]

i am just trolling

[peak wasp]

So it will balance even if it is a fluid? still kinda scratching my head on fluid dynamics

[leaden ether]

Pipes do have some (almost) unpredictable behaviors if you don't keep them very simple and ahand balanced. So in simple cases it does, but in more complicated cases, the piping itself can be so restrictive as to not allow balancing

[carmine bear]

"Some men just want to watch the world burn."
-Alfred Pennyworth

[stark solar]

Kinda weird to quote imaginary people

[carmine bear]

God forbid a man quote something fictional.

lol

[covert talon]

are quartz deposits underground?

[stark solar]

Not generally, no

[covert talon]

im standing on top of one and itsays its 90m away

as if its below me

[stark solar]

I can't say for sure there are none, but that's not where you look for them generally

[carmine bear]

there's one thats kinda underground. its in an exposed cave, of sorts.

well... 2 i think.

[leaden ether]

SOme are underground. THere is a famous pair of pure quartz nodes in a huge cave in the rocky desert.

[covert talon]

#screenshots message

[tidal sun]

one of the entrances to the cave is by the 2 impure and 2 normal coal nodes near the ocean in the rocky desert and yes there are quartz underground with a sam node

[covert talon]

there is nothing above ground and ikd how to get to it

[leaden ether]

You can look around for a cave entrance though honestly sometimes the entrances are like a km or more away. Or you can look on an online map for the cave entrance :/

[cyan garnet]

The cave runs the whole width of the rocky desert. The entrances are not close to where the nodes are

[covert talon]

thats awful

[stark solar]

Whoa. Whatever you're talking about I've never seen it. Gotta go check this out

[ember locust]

that cave is a nightmare. the amount of stingers i had to get through...

[azure cape]

anyone know why my oil factory isnt receiving enough oil? I should be producing enough but the pipes dont look like their being filled

[compact aspen]

Yeah I'm in the process of getting quartz automated out of that cave...

[stark solar]

If the cave really is that big, maybe better to get quartz from somewhere else?

Sounds like the effort to get it out and then to wherever you want it would be annoying

[weary perch]

what's your main mode of transport?

for materials i mean

[frozen falcon]

I originally thought there was no purpose to hypertubes but now I'm starting to go insane with walking to different parts of my base

[weary perch]

jus react to one

imagine train has 3 because i also just use trains for everythig

[leaden ether]

Luckily it's a big cave so belting it out is easy, unlike some caves where once you put a belt through the entrance you can no longer fit your body through it.

[stark solar]

Hypertubes are in my view way better than the personnel elevator because you never need to wait for it

[carmine bear]

hypertube. I. AM. THE. VESSEL.

[frozen falcon]

I run out of coal 🥀

[feral jay]

Resources are infinite?

[frozen falcon]

Do you know what supply and demand is

[feral jay]

Ohh

I was legit confused there

[frozen falcon]

I don't have enough coal producers or ways to keep them active most of the time so I have a coal issue

Resolving it by just getting a fuck ton of solid biomass to keep them powered

[feral jay]

yeah, got it now

[stark solar]

orar: ... coal is more usually a source of power than a cause of problems for it

[ember locust]

the nearest quartz nodes are otherwise over 2.3km away (one in the open cave below the red jungle, the other in the middle of the northern forest). it's a nightmare to go through that cave but it's even more of a nightmare to try and automate farther quartz nodes unless you're willing to build a tractor/truck road or have unlocked trains

[frozen falcon]

I'm still getting my coal because it's kind of like

My only form of mass produced power?

Do you expect me to get dozens of biomass generators and spend most my time cutting down forests?

[stark solar]

Generally you outgrow biomass generators once you have coal. Part of the point of coal. After you switch over, biomass gens are mostly just for if you need power to open a crash site

[carmine bear]

just makin sure, you have made sure that your input of coal matches the ussage, right?

[frozen falcon]

Which is why I'm going to stay using coal

[frozen falcon]

So have you read the messages where I specifically said I do not produce enough coal

[carmine bear]

i did. im just intrigued, what do you mean? you do not produce enough and you are surprised? or you KNOW you CANT produce the amount you'd like to?

[frozen falcon]

I don't

My machines coal hungry

[visual rose]

i am out of pipe hell now

[frozen falcon]

And I don't have coal to feed them

And I am scavenging to get them enough food

[undone yarrow]

Generators or..?

[frozen falcon]

Coal

[undone yarrow]

???

[carmine bear]

yes. coal genorators or crafting?

[frozen falcon]

Do you not know what coal is?

[ember locust]

they're asking what machines you're feeding coal to

[frozen falcon]

Feeding the coal makers

They starve

[carmine bear]

are you making coal? usign coal to make tother things? or using it for coal genorators?

[frozen falcon]

My stuff makers

[carmine bear]

enough riddles plssss 😭

[undone yarrow]

Find the alternate recipe for "Solid Steel Ingots" as it cuts your coal needs in half

[frozen falcon]

Coal Generators 🥀

[stark solar]

Do you mean miners?

[visual rose]

do you not know where coal comes from?

[frozen falcon]

I have enough steel though

[frozen falcon]

Yes the coal harvesters

[carmine bear]

coolio. now we going somewhere.
okay, so your miners cant mine the amount that you need it to for your generators?

[frozen falcon]

They starve and I need to feed them

[low vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-insurance-fraud-fraud-insurance-cat-insurance-fraud-gif-24308640

[frozen falcon]

No they keep starving

[stark solar]

Please call them miners. Way clearer

[frozen falcon]

Same thing really

[undone yarrow]

Given everything, no, no it wasnt

[ember locust]

^^^

[frozen falcon]

To me it felt pretty clear cut

[visual rose]

coal wind

[carmine bear]

id like to inform you that miners arent typically called "they" or "the coal harvesters" XD

[ember locust]

i dont know why you're choosing to be incredibly unclear in what your issue here is lmao

[undone yarrow]

What do mean they unger

[visual rose]

coal turbine

[frozen falcon]

I'm on phase 2

[visual rose]

same

pipes are hell

[frozen falcon]

I give them energy through biomass burners but keep running out of biomass to feed htem

[undone yarrow]

Then... Hook them to Coal-Powered Generators..?

[frozen falcon]

And I forget and then they stop giving me coal until I remember by seeing no coal

[stark solar]

Right, just use it very briefly to bootstrap coal power.

[frozen falcon]

But

[undone yarrow]

?

[frozen falcon]

How do I power the water maker

[visual rose]

i had to make 5 coal gens to power my factory

[frozen falcon]

Hold on wait a moment

[ember locust]

same thing. coal generators

[undone yarrow]

With the coal-powered generator...

One generator should provide the power for all the rests' water and the miner

[stark solar]

orar: power the miner and the water extractor, underclocked if that helps, briefly with biomass and then switch over to coal power ASAP

[frozen falcon]

I need the coal to obtain the coal, I see now

[carmine bear]

so, if your coal power generators are stable and running right, you can hook up the coal generators to the main power source. this causes self reliance.

[carmine bear]

yeah :D

[frozen falcon]

Well what the hell do I do with all this biomass now

[undone yarrow]

Nothing

[ember locust]

every set of 8 generators produces enough power for the miners & water extractors and then some. you only need biomass burners to initially start up the water extractors and miners

[stark solar]

Stick it in DD

[ember locust]

just keep it in storage

[undone yarrow]

You could make solid biofuel for the chainsaw and package liquid biofuel for the jetpack

or just... not worry about it and save it in case of emergency

[ember locust]

and for crash sites!

[frozen falcon]

Now I shall resolve my machines starving and I can stop turning my generators on and off to conserve coal

Like a peasant

[undone yarrow]

1 alien power augmentor also works for all crash sites and is while a lot bigger, much less tedious to deal with

even with the fact that blueprints can be prefueled

[frozen falcon]

I'm still on phase 2

[undone yarrow]

Alien Power Augmentors are unlocked in phase 2

[frozen falcon]

How do I obtain plastic I want to blow more shit up

[stuck dagger]

That's phase 3

[undone yarrow]

Steel Pipe is the most advanced thing you need for them

[frozen falcon]

Blasphemy

[carmine bear]

it takes computers to make one.

not all people have computers to spare lol

[stuck dagger]

Either that or scrounge crash sites or AWESOME shop

[frozen falcon]

Awesome sink is buns

[frozen falcon]

I'm still phase 2

I don't have computer

[undone yarrow]

indeed, I thought the fluctuators where the most advanced part

[sour pilot]

best building in the game!

[carmine bear]

i know. im just saying- yk... nvm 😭

[frozen falcon]

It's usable for a few minutes then it becomes a gluttonous hog

My factory doesn't tolerate gluttonous hogs

[undone yarrow]

You clearly don't understand their purpose then

[stuck dagger]

I dunno, I got like 10 of those all over the place

[frozen falcon]

I have 0 and it'll stay that way

[frozen falcon]

To clean obviously

[carmine bear]

sad. i gotta leave ur factory then...

[undone yarrow]

Though they need the "Smart Splitter" to really shine

[stuck dagger]

good luck with manually dumping excess then

[frozen falcon]

Trash bin

[stuck dagger]

FICSIT does not waste

[undone yarrow]

Or never getting certain buildings like wall power

[stuck dagger]

but you do I guess

[undone yarrow]

or alternate foundations

[frozen falcon]

My powers dont need walls

I have poles for that

[frozen falcon]

I care for factory not pretty stuff

[sour pilot]

biomass burners and only logistics mk1 run GO GO GO

[frozen falcon]

Flat squares is all I require

[undone yarrow]

councrete foundations > default foundations because that stupid trim edge actually has placement collision

[frozen falcon]

I don't care enough about that to do any form of work

[undone yarrow]

You are a strange person, but as long as youre happ

[stuck dagger]

I'm not sure someone who can't figure out how to bootstrap power to get coal gens up and running will make it anywhere near the point where the sink is an actual concern

much less someone who's abrasive about it

[undone yarrow]

When you get to oil power, you will understand the value of the awesome sink, hopefully

[spark mason]

What's the trash icon on my inventory then

[stuck dagger]

Of course, I can be proven wrong

FICSIT does not waste but pioneers do

[ember locust]

for occasionally spiting your oppressive overlords, but only occasionally

[spark mason]

Why did they equip me with a extra dimensional trash can?

[stuck dagger]

What's to say that's theirs

[prisma forge]

As someone who is building their first conveyor highway: I am GLAD for the auto connect feature

also I'm building a rig with refiners to make the pure ingot recipes. Should I make the railway system that will bring the resources here and leave them running while I finish building or should I finish everything and then make the railway system?

[covert talon]

do poles use electricity?

[open oxide]

no

[prisma forge]

no

[cyan garnet]

Have you unlocked Overclocking in the MAM?

[stuck dagger]

Power in this game is completely free of transmission loss (in other words, no)

[atomic siren]

About to get the 2nd upgrade on the space elevator (I forgot what they're called and not in-game right now). Currently I have a bunch (like 10) biofuel burners and about 8 coal generators. I want to disconnect biofuel burners because of space, having to refuel, and fuses blowing a ton, but I'm having a problem. My generators output matches the energy being used in the graph, and now my coal generator fuses are occasionally blowing. Is this just an issue of not enough coal generators?

Super annoying

and now when I try to start one of the coal gens thats down it blows the fuse instantly

[hollow vector]

@untold jackal #screenshots message i hate you too ❤️

[cyan garnet]

How much power are you producing? How much are you consuming? Sounds like you need a lot more coal power

[leaden ether]

I made it a rule to always expand power generation till I was at least 2x my current use before starting any new projects.

[covert talon]

can this be used for power

[atomic siren]

Can't give an estimate right now because all of my coal generators are offline. I had about 8 running and problems were being caused around there. Trying to expand to 12 right now

[shy fog]

build up 8 layers, start there, leave the biomass running...

[covert talon]

when you make coal power can you reroute the power made from the coal back to the water pump?

or does it always have to be powered by an external source

[shy fog]

make sure all the coal generators are at water level

and have 2 pumps per 5 coal

[cyan garnet]

Yes, you can make the grid self sustaining

[covert talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1388712088926421002/d991a3820ef148421d11c95b59e84267.png?ex=6861fa6b&is=6860a8eb&hm=b89d984c0da31d4fc2b74a13ba39cb8c2757b23169a0ecd98617d5941cedf6d7&

[atomic siren]

I guess I'll expand to 12, disconnect from the main grid, start up the generators, then reconnect because currently I can't start the coal generators due to too high demand I assume

[covert talon]

should i maek this?

[cyan garnet]

3 extractors per 8 generators

[untold jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-9508832355999336631

[cyan garnet]

If you connect your generators to a grid that already has a fuse blown and is trying to consume more than you produce, the fuse will blow again, yes

Best bet is to isolate the generators, miner, and water extractors from everything else, get the generators stable, expand your power out, and then connect back to your factories

[cyan garnet]

!wikisearch CG

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=CG

[shy fog]

did water stop being 120 and coal stop being 45 per minute?

[cyan garnet]

What’s 8 times 45
What’s 3 times 120

[atomic siren]

Might have to redo quite a bit of my power grid then which is going to be worth it anyway. Any idea why when both my coal and bioburners were running, when I pressed E on my bioburner, it showed different metrics to my coal? (as in consumption). The bioburner and coal generator are on the same network from what I can tell

[shy fog]

ok, valid point... then the problem sounds like flow rate?

if all the water only pumps in at A, then it's bottlenecking

[cyan garnet]

Bio burners only run on demand. If you were consuming less than your coal power was producing, the bio burners would stay idle

[feral jay]

Sweet, got me some blade runners and a rebar gun

Time to go caving

[atomic siren]

Got it, is consumption only shown for the building you're focused on or is it for the whole network?

[shy fog]

300 m3/min is the basic water pipe movement so if you DO NOT split to multiple entrances you run out of water at the end of line

causing a short

[cyan garnet]

It should be for the whole network (for whatever that machine is connected to)

[atomic siren]

Hmm okay weird because for some reason it was different than for my coal generators even though I'm 99% sure it's on one network

[cyan garnet]

Might have accidentally deconstructed a wire somewhere

[shy fog]

is all the water coming in at the first coal generator?

if you are trying to feed it all from one line it would end up getting less and less||until there is none left at end of line||

so you need to add more (input) every so often otherwise the (input) gets stuck at the first point

[atomic siren]

What does a yellow light mean on a water extractor? That it's not needed because there are others filling in?

[shy fog]

two things, not enough space in pipe is possible

[atomic siren]

Looks like the consumption is fluctuating so it looks like that's the case

[shy fog]

so the question is very simply how many pipe entry points to your coal generator line?

if your answer is one... then the pipe isn't fast enough

would be like trying to drive a semi into a compact car parking space

[shy fog]

as per that picture above, how many entrances to your pipe network?

if there are 3 pumps, and all 3 pumps start at A, and there is NO OTHER POINTS... it's running out of water

so like in the picture. Water, then coal, then another coal, third coal, fourth coal, more water input.

[atomic siren]

Looks like max consumption is ~840MW. I should be getting about 900 with 12 online

[shy fog]

stop and tell us how many coal generators between water inputs

[atomic siren]

12 coal gens and 5 water inputs

[shy fog]

not total

do you have a water input, then 4 coal generators, then another water input?

or is all the water at the starting line?

[atomic siren]

This might have been the wrong way to do it but it's just one network of pipes

[cyan garnet]

at this point might be time to make a thread in #1038092680493801533 - you can post pictures of your build there which will help with diagnosing

[shy fog]

are there 3 lines of water going into 3 spots along the line?

or ONE line of water going over all the coal generators

[atomic siren]

yeah- leaving tomorrow on a trip so trying to get some quick help in the hour or so I have until I need to start packing

[atomic siren]

one, I get what you mean with the water flow

So I should have a splitter from one pump go into a few coal gens and repeat for the next?

[shy fog]

I'll take it to direct message

[digital crystal]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[cyan garnet]

#1201555265942724758

[worthy pebble]

Im trying to transport all starter stuff i have being made in the starter area to my mall in the middle of the map and was wondering if i should multilevel or put multiple trucks on the same road to transport stuff #screenshots

[viral elbow]

just started a new run tonight and im still in the stone age and the first thing my first lizard doggo brings me is a nuclear nobelisk

[leaden ether]

Use it wisely

[worthy pebble]

Thats crazy

[spiral dew]

dang, first time running out of power in a long time

consuming 10gw now

[worthy pebble]

for the most part this is purely coal #screenshots

[spiral dew]

slooped manufacturers sure eat a ton of juice

[cyan garnet]

Wait till you get to sloop’d tier 9 buildings

[worthy pebble]

btw can anyone answer my question?

[vagrant knot]

just had to redisgn my entire multi level warehouse factory because i didnt understand how splitters worked

🙂

[worthy pebble]

Have you watched gaming with docs multiplex manifold video for malls

[vagrant knot]

No

[spiral dew]

i just got nuclear pasta left to build then i will see phase 9 for the first time 😄

haven't spoiled it for myself

562.5 aluminum casing per min from one assembler is pretty awesome

[abstract heron]

is there a way to get out of controller menu if u don't have a controller

[lost wagon]

what the actual fuck is this computer production line, and it will probably only get worse from here

[abstract heron]

fixed it

[undone yarrow]

While not the cheapest: Caterium + Oil can make 90% of phase 4 electronics

(mostly youre missing Electromagnetic Control Rods)

[bitter lodge]

its where the game is telling you that you gotta pull resources from different areas

But as sun said, you can get away with just oil and caeterium which is techincally only 2 resources.
but wait till you see aluminum xD

[lost wagon]

it's less about the logistic and more about of the quantity of machines that annoys me

it's the reason I get burned out of factorio everytime I play "great I unlocked this and to make this thing I need to build 148 new machines"

[bitter lodge]

How many computers a min are you trying to produce?

[lost wagon]

was planning on 10 since I usually default to 10 to everything and increase more if I need later, but will have to go lower, 10 a minute is 70 machines according with Satisfactory Tools, don't know if there are alternate recipes I can unlock atm to make it less

that still surprisingly less than the previous factory I did that was 35 constructors alone

[bitter lodge]

[leaden ether]

.> (Just finished placing 720 768 fuel generators) But yeah some things you need to lower the number, for example when you get to warp drives... "1". THough 10 computers is probably a good number actually.

[bitter lodge]

70 machines...isn't to bad

my last factory required....over 500?

[lost wagon]

I will probably just download tiled blueprints and shit them on the map at this point

[leaden ether]

I got a bit of shell shock at phase 4 due to the size/complexity of the factories I was looking at. But... You just take a deep breath and break it down into smaller tasks. I LOVE doing things on multuiple floors as it makes it easy to separate each step of the factory, then sent the results up to the next level for the next step.

[bitter lodge]

That ^

The only reason my factory was so massive was because I didn't overclock a single thing, and it was producing 14 different items. I had a lot of resources going into it.

It took me 3 irl days because I would take breaks. Doing a set of machines, doing logistics, etc. Its a lot of work and time. But damn it feels rewarding seeing your end result

[lost wagon]

but I guess I will have to start with making more power, otherwise it will be impossible to make these big lines

[bitter lodge]

Fuel gens?

you should have those if you are gonna start making computers

[lost wagon]

yea, I unlocked them but didn't build yet

[bitter lodge]

There is some good alt recipes

I think the one most people go to is like diluted?

ya, oil into Heavy oil residue (alt recipe). Then sink the polymer resin (or make it into plastic) Then HOR into Fuel :D

[abstract heron]

When i place a item or anything it shoes a white box how do i get rid of it

[bitter lodge]

that is just part of the build animation?

[abstract heron]

Its annoying

[spark mason]

Making a factory that receives raw resources and outputs complex items everytime you unlock something new is not worth time wise, I found that it's just better to have a factory that does a single thing, like quartz into silica and deliver that silica wherever it's needed

[bitter lodge]

why not make the silicia at the factory you are gonna use it in?

[abstract heron]

anyway to turn it off

[bitter lodge]

not saying its bad to do what you are doing, just curious as to your playstyle

[feral jay]

There is, yes, but I can't find it atm

[lost wagon]

that was a thing I was planning to do at some point but didn't, have parts of the line as outpost and then send the "finished" production to where the last step is just to finish it

[abstract heron]

i like to build much and by hand mostly ofc pipes and belthighways i do use blueprints

[sullen gull]

There is a setting under gameplay to turn off Show Clearance. After you can show it by holding CTRL

[abstract heron]

it still shows when i have it off

[spark mason]

I used to do the raw to complex factories with load balancing and all that complex stuff, but it really is not needed, if you give factories a single responsibility you will have a much better time to adapt, plan and change stuff in the future

[feral jay]

yep that's the one

[bitter lodge]

Interesting way of doing it

[abstract heron]

Should i restart in my world then

like re go into it

[sullen gull]

Did you hit apply after turning it off? 😏

[abstract heron]

YES says i think so 😛

[spark mason]

When I noticed I was taking 20h to finish a load balanced factory raw to complex, I knew I was not playing optimally

[bitter lodge]

I shoved 1200 coal, 1500 copper, 3600 iron, 1500 limestone, and 1000+ water into a single factory to produce some complex things at the end xD

[spark mason]

Now I do manifold single responsibility facs and use vehicles to transport my stuff

[sullen gull]

Lol, I only ask as I have also forgotten to do that, like twice in a row 🤦‍♂️

[abstract heron]

i still have it IDK WHY

my settings probbaly got reset or something idk

[feral jay]

That gets me all the time

[bitter lodge]

oh ya optimal is a choice

[abstract heron]

i have everything on low @sullen gull

do i have to restart my game to get show clearance to work?

[sullen gull]

Was just double checking ig game, afaik, that's the only setting to turn off the white clearance boxes. A reload 'may' help

[bitter lodge]

are you talking about the white box after placing or before placing?

[abstract heron]

after placing

[bitter lodge]

That just may be pure animation

like a mod may be needed to disable it

[lost wagon]

mine disappeared without restarting

[sullen gull]

White box after placing? The build animation where all the parts fly out?

[abstract heron]

i restarted to be sure

there is this WHITE box that comes after u place a item

[lost wagon]

it's the clearance box

[bitter lodge]

THERE IS NO SETTING TO DISABLE IT.

[lost wagon]

there is

[abstract heron]

YES

[bitter lodge]

then I am totally blind

[abstract heron]

i don't like that when i am building

i like to be focus and have a show or movie on to do when i am playing

[lost wagon]

you can disable it to always show and it only shows when you hold ctrl to snap

[sullen gull]

#screenshots message

[bitter lodge]

syzzle. they are referring to the white box that shows after you place the structure down. Not prior

[abstract heron]

🤣

RESTARTED FIXED IT

[lost wagon]

the game shows the box when you're going to place another building

if you turn it off, it doesn't unless you press to snap

[upbeat river]

I’ve done it
I automated phase 4…

[sullen gull]

Press CTRL

[bitter lodge]

How much of each final product per min?

[sullen gull]

42

[bitter lodge]

huh

[abstract heron]

That whtie fricking box is GONE

[upbeat river]

Enough/min

[abstract heron]

thx for all help peeps

[bitter lodge]

do you not know? or don't wanna share?

[upbeat river]

I lost track

[abstract heron]

my hr on satisfactory TOTAL do i need to touch grass

16,656 hrs TOTAL with 2,957hr total in my current world

[bitter lodge]

16k+ hours-

[upbeat river]

You’ll need to reinvent grass my friend

[bitter lodge]

I imagine there is a lot of afk time in that?

[abstract heron]

a bit but i do play

i am on my summer of less play due to heat

so if its cold ill play

like 15C ill play

[spark mason]

Wtf

[upbeat river]

I legit turn my heat off in the winter playing this game

[bitter lodge]

I thought my 5k hours on FFXIV after 3 years was a lot...

[abstract heron]

I love playing This game in winter it makes a nice heater on those cold winter days

[upbeat river]

I have to keep the door open to avoid raising the temp of my room by 5 degrees F

[leaden ether]

In the summer (like now) I have a setup that collects and blows 100% of the computers heat up into the attic. THen in winder I direct it into my room.

[abstract heron]

One more thing how do i change the conveyor belt item fequency to lower ammount

[lost wagon]

I should start to overclock everything

[sullen gull]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[bitter lodge]

use a lower mk belt-

[abstract heron]

in settings

[bitter lodge]

graphic wise?

[sullen gull]

Video Settings

[abstract heron]

i am there how do i change it

It not LETTING ME IT HATE MEEEEEEEEEEEE

[lost wagon]

idk but probably the setting that says conveyor belt item frequency

[abstract heron]

i tried and no work

[bitter lodge]

I feel your pc may need a smidge of an upgrade-

satisfactory isn't demanding hardward wise

[abstract heron]

i run everything on low

[lost wagon]

ah, I don't have blender yet, that's why this line felt suspiciously small

[weary perch]

casually careens into HQ at mach 2

i love cannons and rocket fuel

rocket fuel in my jetpack, full protective gear, bladerunners, nukes and turbo ammo

become unstoppable with the power of concrete, oil and uranium

excuse me, mach 1.2

i had to do math to figure out the actual number :(

[feral jay]

That's what math is usually used for, yes 😛

Figuring out numbers and stuff

[weary perch]

:( math is evil

[feral jay]

This game needs a lot of math...

[weary perch]

600 quickwire/min

of new production that is

i for some reason set up a way to bring 300 caterium, copper, iron and limestone ore per minute

six machines with animations in sync is the best thing you can see in this game

or at least, the most satisfactory

FIFTEEN GIGAWATTS

ONE ACCELERATOR

thats not even counting everything it's taking to feed this thing

i'm trying to churn out a hundred nuclear pastas ASAP for phase 4

ugh this is still gonna take an hour

[kind rose]

between 6 and 20

[feral jay]

There we go, got my starter iron parts facrtory built

[kind rose]

it should be 14 gigawats with 3 power shard and sloop

[frozen falcon]

Would the devs be pissed off if I made a fangame version of this on roadblocks? (roblox)

[lost wagon]

they didn't invent automation

[kind rose]

if you wanted to make a factory game in roblox, go ahead

[next meadow]

I scanned a couple hard drives, now I have +6 inv slots vs bolted iron plate (18 iron plate + 50 screws = 3 reinforced iron plates) and biocoal (5 biomass = 6 coal) vs bolted frame (3 reinforced iron plates + 56 screws = 2 modular frames.) Which two should I take?

Or should I rescan one of em?

[feral jay]

It's always very situational, but generally, biocoal is ass

Nothing in that list is "great"

I'd probably take the inv slots, and then leave biocoal sitting there so I wouldn't roll it again

[next meadow]

Why would I just leave it there though?

Why not reroll it?

[feral jay]

Because you can't possibly roll it again now

[next meadow]

I can though

[feral jay]

No, not if it's already one of the available selections, it won't show up twice in the library

As in, not twice at the same time

[next meadow]

Huh

So it won't show up again?

[feral jay]

It can if you reroll that drive, but if you leave it as an option, it won't pop up a second time while it's already there

[sullen gull]

What they mean is that if something is in your list, it won't come up again with a hard drive scan. However, if you pick one, the one you don't pick can come up again.

[feral jay]

yes that ☝️

[next meadow]

Ohh I think I get it, keep it there so that when I get another, neither of the options can be biocoal.

[feral jay]

yes

[next meadow]

Gotcha

Makes sense

Alr, I took the +6

[feral jay]

Heh now I need to rush better belts, I designed this iron parts factory for 350+/min but I only have Mk2 belts

[sterile blade]

Bolted is pretty nice if it comes with Steel Screws ^^

[feral jay]

Screws are evil

Pure evil incarnate

Handcrafting 1500 steel ingots to rush Mk3 belts

[sterile blade]

High-throughput items bring their own challenges to the table, but they also have good sides (not to mention some just enjoy that challenge xD)

• Low machines counts (with Steel Screws)
• Teaching how to handle many items/min (feed screws 1:1 rather than merging many together)... And so on ^^

[feral jay]

Yeah I suppose high throughput stuff can be a fun challenge, quickwire is the same

I do like building elaborate belt balancers

[sterile blade]

Quickwire aka Screws MK3

[sterile blade]

BTW, funfact: with biocoal and 3 Sloops one can turn 0.125 Alien Remains/min into 120 Coal/min.
Some may find it surprising how much Coal can be obtained with "just" one alien remain every 8 minutes ^^

[feral jay]

True but I sloop all the remains processing anyway

And hoard liquid biofuel to run backup bioburners on a rainy day

[sterile blade]

Why the "but" here? It just makes sense 😆 (slooping all manually gathered resources I mean)

[feral jay]

My last save I had I think 1½ GW of bioburner capacity

Just for the lulz

[fathom shuttle]

I just realized that most electronics is just rubber, plastic and quickwire

With the right alternates

[arctic swallow]

is there a way to color floor patterns?

[untold moat]

Actually not true. Had it happen to me when I was rolling recipes early game

[latent prawn]

they'll be the swatch's alt color when you color the foundation

[arctic swallow]

but i don't want to color the foundation thats the problem

[latent prawn]

create a swatch with the same primary and a different alt

[versed pasture]

hello

I just got the game and have played for around 6 hours is there anything I should look out for?

[latent prawn]

i'm all happy atm, finally figured out some math stuff in some code

[feral jay]

Your sanity

[latent prawn]

the time you've been sucked in, lol

[arctic swallow]

spiders

[feral jay]

Or cats

[latent prawn]

and spiders, lol

[versed pasture]

ah yes ive felt a lil taste of it my pipes wont pump water fixed it after a min of madness\

[versed pasture]

THERES CATS?!!!

[feral jay]

That's because pipe don't pump anything...

[feral jay]

There's an arachnaphopia mode thaqt turns the spiders into pictures of cats

[versed pasture]

oh thats cute

[latent prawn]

probably best newbie advice i can give is that exploration is important. finding crash sites to unlock alt recipes makes the factory building simpler

[feral jay]

The spiders in this game are realistic enough that it freaks some people out

[versed pasture]

ive found 1 so far

[latent prawn]

there's around 100 alt recipes, so...

[feral jay]

Oh real advice... research everything you can in the MAM, get some alien DNS capsules and sink them for points, and buy all the AWESOME shop stuff you can afford

[versed pasture]

im concered if i start a new game will those recipes stay?

[feral jay]

Start with ladders and wall power warts

[latent prawn]

nah, every saves starts you off in a blank state

[versed pasture]

oh alr thank god

[latent prawn]

but yeah, in general knock out as much research as you can when you can

[versed pasture]

i havent really touched the awsome shop yet cause im not too sure on how it works as in what to give

[gritty sleet]

Did they buff the blade runners in 1.1? The jump height feels like it's higher than I recall...

[versed pasture]

is there any early game exploration tool that can help with that on foot is hell

[feral jay]

I always start with ladders and wall power thingies, that make a huge difference

[arctic swallow]

yes

[latent prawn]

i think they forgot to reset the slidejump buf for normal jumps and it kinda just ended up staying

[versed pasture]

i dont think ive unlocked those yet im at tier 3-4 rn

[feral jay]

You can unlock them in the aweseom shop

[latent prawn]

bladerunners are mam quartz research

[fathom shuttle]

For a train transporting a single item it’s better to set it to leave when fully loaded right?

[versed pasture]

thx for the advice Ill get back to building

[feral jay]

Your microbreak is over. Now get back to work.

[versed pasture]

but fix it i dont wanna I wanna go home I dont wanna be a pioner any more

[gritty sleet]

refreshing

[dense violet]

Doesn’t really matter tbh

You’d want the cars to be evenly loaded though

[versed pasture]

gunna be taken out of my micro nutrient pay

[latent prawn]

in general with trains, changing their default 'wait 30 seconds' behavior can really cause issue. if you know what you're doing, it can reduce rail traffic, but often it just leads to unintended problems

[feral jay]

Oh @versed pasture you can place multiple portable miners on the same node, I was over 2000 hours in with this game before I realized that

That speeds things up a lot sometimes

[versed pasture]

but isnt it better to just place one big one and a container

then I wont have to micro task them as much/

[feral jay]

Yeah, just if you need the portable ones for whatever reason, you can place a hundred of them on a node if you want

[latent prawn]

if you're already at the coal power stage, you'll rarely use the miners by hand anymore

[versed pasture]

taking exploitation of recources to the MAXIMUM

[latent prawn]

sometimes they're useful for some quick grab & go, but automation is the game

[versed pasture]

im at coal power rn im tryna connect it all to a single powergrid

[feral jay]

Just thinking of that now because I'm rushing some steel stuff

[latent prawn]

good place to be

[feral jay]

It helps to drop a couple dozen for the coal

[latent prawn]

once that's complete, you can stop feeding the biomass burners

[versed pasture]

alr so go check out awsome shop and exploration with research thats the checklist right?

[feral jay]

Yeah, do all the research and unlock all the things, generally

[latent prawn]

research everything in the mam that you can

of particular interest in the early game is the quartz tree's bladerunners, the caterium tree's smart splitters and when you get there, the alien tech's dimensional depots

[eager tartan]

I wanna start building a vertical factory, how can I start building up tho I don’t have pillars in crafting

[latent prawn]

also, the rebar gun is much better than you'd expect

[steel sluice]

Stack foundations

[versed pasture]

I have a bit in cartuim i founda pure vein (thank the heavens) and now im just missing a lot of hard to craft stuff for alien tech im missing 2 things to unlokc patent and i dont see much a use for rebar gun rn? does it do somehting important?

[feral jay]

You definitely want ladders then

[eager tartan]

When can I unlock pillars?

[steel sluice]

Idk

When depends on how much you play

[latent prawn]

the rebar gun lets you shoot things from a distance w/o taking damage 🙂

[steel sluice]

You can make a factory with multiple floors just using foundations

Hit r to cycle through build modes like zooping and vertical

[latent prawn]

it actually has 4 types of ammo that have varying properties, but even the base rebar ammo still does more damage per hit than the zapper or basher

[versed pasture]

so i crafted the basher for notting dam

[feral jay]

Nah, the basher is just cool

[latent prawn]

well still useful

[feral jay]

And a fair sight better than the zapper

[arctic swallow]

you can also turn on passive mode

[steel sluice]

You might like the basher most of all, just try everything

[arctic swallow]

i have it turn on because it is so anoying when you build and get randomly attacked

[eager tartan]

Also mate I’m a bit confused on how to like get multiple iron inputs. Near my base I have 3 iron nodes but I see factories where they want like 240 iron inputs. How do I make those without having like a random iron conveyer belt come from a random coroner of the map

[feral jay]

I'd also say to Google "10 tips you never knew about Satisfactory" and stuff like that, this game is chock full of little UI shortcuts

[latent prawn]

another tip is that once you have coal power going, start sinking your factory's ouputs. resources are unlimited and you want to keep those tickets accumulating

[steel sluice]

You don't. Organising how stuff moves around the map is the main part of the game. "Organising" is the optional part, you can just have belts everywhere if you want

[latent prawn]

in the later game, having a bunch of tickets to buy some stacks of components like turbomotors or supercomps actually is really kind of a useful thing

[steel sluice]

If you're in the early game, just make what you need - smaller amounts. You get more tools and resources for bigger quantities when you need them later in the game

[feral jay]

Oh, also, this game doesn't punish mistakes, at all. You get full refunds for everything you dismantle

So just build stuff and worry about how good it is later

[latent prawn]

and also, don't overbuild. keep your projects small and targetted to what you're doing next

[versed pasture]

should i be splitting stuff like iron rods half into a storage and half into making screws? or is that bad for my progression?

[frozen falcon]

Alr

Also at any poitn so I get laser weapons

[feral jay]

You get to put them on sharks' heads

Because this game needs moats. With sharks and laser beams.

[steel sluice]

Making any amount of stuff is good for progress. if you like siphoning off and it works with your set up, do that. Otherwise make a dedicated line - no one right way.

[latent prawn]

you aren't going to need many screws for building. the only building that requires them is the awesome shop kiosk.

[frozen falcon]

So I get.. laser shooting shark weapons?

[latent prawn]

you get nukes. they blow em up.

[frozen falcon]

Nukes aren't lasers

[feral jay]

Yes, nuclear hand grenades

[frozen falcon]

Those are big bombs, I asked about lasers not bombs

[latent prawn]

actually at one point in early dev, there was some sorta fish

[frozen falcon]

Do I get laser weapons

[feral jay]

no

[latent prawn]

no

[feral jay]

I be joking

[frozen falcon]

How can this be a tech game without lasers

[steel sluice]

We use lasers to count items on belts

[feral jay]

It's not about killing things?

[latent prawn]

there's lasers on the belt item counters. make due

[feral jay]

Actually, the MAM has a laser

[frozen falcon]

That's so not cool

Why invent something without considerin ghow will it can murder

Very unrealistic in that regard

[latent prawn]

maybe you'll be happy with the APA's thingie, idk, lol

[frozen falcon]

I have no clue what APA is

From avatar?

[feral jay]

*ADA

[frozen falcon]

The last airbender

[steel sluice]

It's not part of the ficsit mission

[latent prawn]

i intentionally abreviated because of spoilers

[frozen falcon]

Fuck the fiscit mission, lasers are more important

ADA's a bitch anyways and so are the weird alien things talking to me

I'm on phase 2

[steel sluice]

Hey, I guess you're joking but that's too much

[fathom shuttle]

… only one of my concrete cars are gets loaded up because I used manifolds

[frozen falcon]

On that regard those weird alien orb things whenever I get an upgrade need to speak less cryptically

[arctic swallow]

nahh she cool

[latent prawn]

HARVEST

[frozen falcon]

Mf told me to check if the water's water by seeing if it melts off my hand or not

[frozen falcon]

?

[feral jay]

They are a window to weaving

[arctic swallow]

yeah how else you know if it's water?

[frozen falcon]

No clue what that means

Speaking as cryptically as those aliens

[feral jay]

Do not damage FICSIT® property.

[frozen falcon]

And those weird mercer spheres that REALLY like to talk to me a bit when I grab them in their weird pedestal things

[leaden acorn]

Hey is this the channel where we can talk about mods for this game?

[frozen falcon]

This game has mods?

I didn't know there were mods

[feral jay]

Lots of them

[fossil ice]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @true mulch

[steel sluice]

Yeeess, harvest.

[frozen falcon]

Then who the hell lied to me saying there wasnt

[feral jay]

I have a mod to give me a pause function lol

[true mulch]

You can talk about mods here but it's better in the modding discord

[feral jay]

Because devs who refuse to add pause functions to a single player game are insane

[frozen falcon]

Liar

There ARE mods

[true mulch]

This is a game you need to pause

[arctic swallow]

satisfactory plus is a super fun mod even for new players it is good

[feral jay]

I used to have a mod installed for a belt throughput counter, but that's in vanilla now

[leaden acorn]

There's mods just not through the steam workshop. You gotta get a separate application called SatisfactoryModManager.

[frozen falcon]

Oddly inconvenient

[feral jay]

Not if you're on Epic...

[frozen falcon]

I'm playing on steam

Not epic games

[feral jay]

No I mean it's a dedicated manager so nobody needs to care what platform you're running it on

[frozen falcon]

What about caring about the platform

[feral jay]

If modding was done on the steam workshop, Epic players would be SoL

[frozen falcon]

Can you stop abbreviating words and assuming I know the meaning

[true mulch]

Imo everyone should get familiar with the base game first before trying mods

[frozen falcon]

Wth does SoL mean

[feral jay]

sorry, SoL = Shit Out Of Luck

[frozen falcon]

Oh

[steel sluice]

If getting the mod manager seems hard, you should definitely check the mod discord before you get any. Mods often involve a certain level of troubleshooting

[frozen falcon]

Seems very oddly inconvenient

[true mulch]

Installing the mod manager is a minor skill check

[steel sluice]

It's not odd

Mods are not broadly supported, they are community based.

[fathom shuttle]

We need official support

[feral jay]

I have an effeciency checker, infinite nudge, container screens, flashlight settings, the gardner's toolkit, and Just Pause installed

[frozen falcon]

I KNOW the first new thing I'm adding to my roblox scuff of this game: Laser weapons

[feral jay]

All QoL stuff really

Quality Of Life

[frozen falcon]

OR I may just make it on unity because ion know how that terrain generation would work on roblox..........

[steel sluice]

I think roblox has it's own discord

[frozen falcon]

Already in several roblox dev servers I'm just av oding the primary one cause they're talking about squid games season 3 and I haven't seen it yet

Chat roadblocks or unity which one should I do

[steel sluice]

this is the Satisfactory channel on the Satisfactory discord

[frozen falcon]

(Godot sucks for 3d and not enough space for unreal's gluttonous ass)

[frozen falcon]

Yes and this is related to satisfactory

[leaden acorn]

It's not as hard as you think really. You just run the installer to install it, then the Manager will find where Satisfactory is on your computer, and then open up a menu of all mods found to be compatible with the current version. Then from there you look through the list, and hit download on what you want. Couldn't be more simple.

[mortal ginkgo]

it got such a plump rear for a reason, it does the job fine

[cinder kraken]

#screenshots message ??

[frozen falcon]

Alright I assumed there were a bunch of extra steps

[frozen falcon]

Yeah but it's too fat for me and I need a dedicated hard drive for it in the future or something 😭

[mortal ginkgo]

oh I know brother, it really loose some actual inner fat or have ways to disable features

[steel sluice]

it looks like your hypertube entrances aren't in the right spots.

[leaden acorn]

I will say that if you want to be extra careful, you'll want to read the descriptions of each mod, so you know about any bugs or problems they may have, either with the vanilla game or other mods.

[cinder kraken]

ya know whats the best thing? it worked before

[frozen falcon]

They really gotta give you a panel to choose not to install absolutely everything cause that chunky mf needs some slimmable options

[mortal ginkgo]

there are some options in Options before you install but eh, its still like 30GB I think

[frozen falcon]

I'm gonna make the concept in roblox cause easier engine to use for me and then I'll work in unity for my satisfactory scuffgame since roblox is too buns (It's effectively modern scratch but with greed and gluttony learned from EA)

[frozen falcon]

Too chunky for my terrible storage mangagement skills

[true mulch]

I'm well aware you're gonna have the opposite opinion, but I feel like using Unreal for small indie projects is like building a dog kennel with a crane and on the flip side it's causing many AAA games to just look the same

[frozen falcon]

Not really unreal's fault though, very capable engine just as unity is

More of the game development scene and the mindset of devs as a whole than blaming unreal for a precedent being set and a bunch of devsa tryna emulate it

[leaden acorn]

Except y'know, people actually still use Unreal.

[mortal ginkgo]

You will be rather surprised to know that, I agree with you. There are ways to make a project smaller but it is a terrible hassle and not everybody knows them as the editor doesn't make it easy or clear enough.

About AAA games being looking the same, that is called "lacking Graphical Design for your game."

It got literally nothing to do with ANY engine. Default lighting will always be default.

[true mulch]

Devs being lazy definitely is a factor

Especially with the lacking art direction lol

[frozen falcon]

You ever seen roblox or played it?

[sterile blade]

I ran like 1.5 GW of it too and was surprised by how long I ran it for and... how much I actually ended up relying on it (pushing off nuclear) 😅 😆

[fathom shuttle]

#screenshots how do I set up the signals

[frozen falcon]

It's the same thing with the dev scene as a whole but really low IQ'd and a lot more prolific for roblox

[true mulch]

No I'm not twelve

[mortal ginkgo]

That is the point. The same happens when a Unreal Engine expects you to have NASA computer too. Not only those games lack an art design or direction, they also dont know how to use the optimization tools.

[frozen falcon]

Read the above message

[sterile blade]

Then get out!
This Server is for 12 and above!

[frozen falcon]

OR attempting to follow the tails of other successful games consciously or subconsciously so they endup making the same product but scuffier

[true mulch]

I'm gonna get a message in a couple weeks that I violated ToS based on their genius AI tool

[fathom shuttle]

Already reported

[mortal ginkgo]

problem is you are expecting same mind-sighted people to do different things. as I said, they got no graphic designer, art direction.

they think a capable engine can fix those issues but no

[leaden acorn]

Hey uh... is this debate really relevant to Satisfactory...?

[fathom shuttle]

Rip your account

[sterile blade]

One at each entry, one at each exit

[fathom shuttle]

Pathing signals at the entry and block at the exit?

[sterile blade]

All blocks work too, but adding path ones should make things more interesting and trains engage the crossing more efficiently

[frozen falcon]

You agreed with me in a disagreement tone

[feral jay]

If you con't need path signals, don't use them. There's nothing they do that block signals can't, they're just better at it, in very specific situations.

[frozen falcon]

Satisfactory is a game, we're talking about games, so yes

[fathom shuttle]

Wait I’m dumb so I don’t know where the exit and entry are 💀

[mortal ginkgo]

I am an unreal engine user. Unreal Editor will agree with what you do, but gonna crash anyway because that thing is a mess deep inside.

[true mulch]

I suppose the problem with graphics and especially lighting is that it looks...bland? Which is really a funny problem, because they've solved it looking unrealistic and now they have this instead. Older games with "worse" visuals aren't uglier, there's a charm to it

[leaden acorn]

It really isn't dude. Y'all are talking about making video games, and that's not what you do in Satisfactory.

[mortal ginkgo]

It looks bland because devs are bland. A canvas does not make a painter, a good one.

[sterile blade]

You can decide that ^^
If you go for a right-handed, no-bidirectional solution, you should be able to easily track which are entrances and which are exits

[frozen falcon]

Game development are making games and satisfactory is a game

Anyways going to bed it's 3am

[leaden acorn]

So? What're you gonna do? Send an angry email to Coffee Stain about their choice in game engine?

[fossil ice]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @sterile blade

[true mulch]

Yeah yeah you're right, I guess my point was that specifically UE provides a good (or "realistic") enough default that it amplifies this problem. That's not really anyone's fault, just the natural consequence

[mortal ginkgo]

Where did you get this.. idea from?

You know what, don't answer.

[true mulch]

Sorry, didn't intend to take it so off topic

[sterile blade]

UE standards raised the bar of "bad" graphics.
Does that nail the point? ^^

[leaden acorn]

It's fine. I just wanted to stop the debate before the debate got too heated.

[mortal ginkgo]

There is no heated discussion. We are just talking.

[true mulch]

Heated? Sorry if it seems as such, I'm talking on good terms

[mortal ginkgo]

No need to be sorry, this is not heated at all lol.

[leaden acorn]

Ah. Sorry. Guess I overreacted.

[sterile blade]

Clearly you don't know the temperature over here, I'm very much heated right now

[mortal ginkgo]

"That's not really anyone's fault" I completely disagree here. Lacking a vision and being hired for a "Graphic Designer" for the sake of it is many people's fault.

Again, companies think "wow Unreal Engine looks good so our game will look good and this will make people sell more zomg guyz money money money".

While companies does not know how Elden Ring textures are actually really bad when you look at them closeby, have amazing shadow casting issues, yet everyone thinks the game looks ultra amazing just because of the art design.

[mortal ginkgo]

~~brotherman why so much info like omg ~~

[sterile blade]

"So much info"? O.o

[mortal ginkgo]

goofy talk for a goofy talk

[true mulch]

In a way. It redefines what "bad" graphics are, because that used to mean "unrealistic", but now that we have realistic, it's bad. The real world is boring (as Gaben put it)

[sterile blade]

Sorry, I couldn't keep up 😆

[mortal ginkgo]

anyway, I will go watch some anime, and probably play some Satisfactory and pretend that I know how to play this game

[true mulch]

Hahah have fun

[leaden acorn]

And if you need help, that's kinda what this server's for. :)

[green fiber]

build factori, numbr go up

[mortal ginkgo]

My problem is that "I love decoration so much that I have 120 hours total played and still don't have oil production running yet."

I don't think people can help that lols.

[sterile blade]

(Even if it doesn't seem like it sometimes )

[sterile blade]

We can try whipping you to complete the game

Finish it faster!

[mortal ginkgo]

even ADA stopped talking with me altogether so no, that wont work kek

[green fiber]

ADA saw your capabilities and knew she'd complain to deaf ears

[sterile blade]

Next she'll resort to deaf threats

[leaden acorn]

But anyway, before the debate of game engines filled up the channel, I was just wanting to ask to see if anyone knows a mod that lets me grow Beryl Nut bushes. Cause I started in the Forest spawn and I don't wanna have to walk 1000 meters to get some nuts.

[mortal ginkgo]

I think she really did a major facepalm when she saw the moment that I took out my entire factory to rebuild it pretty, only to start having Plate and Concrete issues and there were no factories making them.

She knew that, she hecked up in that moment.

[green fiber]

"Basic skill issue detected. Time to find another pioneer, i suppose"

[cloud crown]

Build a zip line

[leaden acorn]

I don't have zip lines unlocked yet. I don't even have tier 3 and 4 unlocked yet.

[green fiber]

you can get ziplines quite early if you hunt for not-gold

[cloud crown]

Well why do you need nuts so bad again?

[leaden acorn]

The MAM.

[cloud crown]

I see!

[fathom shuttle]

Slide jump all the to there lol

I’ve decided to make my HFM production way bigger, will need to tear everything down

I don’t want to be frame poor

[leaden acorn]

See, I tried that, but it just so happens that part of the path there is though a cave filled with spiders and what I could only assume was uranium due to the fact I was taking radiation damage.

[ember locust]

trust me the time will pass by quickly when you're appreciating the terrain on the way to the rocky desert. you'll find nuts right after you cross the river

oh okay nevermind

[fathom shuttle]

Lol are there no nuts at all in the forest biome?

[leaden acorn]

None. I even checked that one website that gives you a map of your world if you upload your save to it. That was the nearest location marker for Beryl Nuts.

[fathom shuttle]

The research can wait lol

[cloud crown]

Face the spiders in combat!

[ember locust]

but also there should be nuts in any biome adjacent to the northern forest (except the lake forest south of it)

[mortal ginkgo]

Rocky Desert is full of nuts.

[ember locust]

the desert canyon is closest and should be enough for some MAM research

[leaden acorn]

Did you miss the part where I mentioned also taking radiation damage due to uranium veins in the cave of spiders?

[ember locust]

it's straight north regardless of where you are in the forest

[dense violet]

Do one belt per platform?

[cloud crown]

If you ask the spiders nicely they will follow you to your home

[mortal ginkgo]

I actually had to go around to find those Red Berry thingies.

I thought seeing a Red Forest was fine to find them and hey it looks cute so maybe safe too.

I was wrong.

I was so wrong.

And there were some large leg sounds to prove that point but it was too late Q_Q

[steel sluice]

if you're not prepared to go looking for them, you might just have to wait. By the time you're ready to venture out in search of them, you'll get sick of how abundant they are pretty fast.

[ember locust]

💀 that reminds me of when i was looking for quartz nodes in my very very first playthrough — the two in the open cave below the red jungle. but i didnt know they were below the red jungle, so i scaled the giant cliff and was not welcomed with open arms 🫶🏾 LMAO

me and my xeno zapper almost got turned into charcoal

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean you were technically welcomed with open arms, just a few dozens of them.

Nothing will beat the jumpscare I had when I saw a large skitter that actually JUMPED.

I was like "bruh I only got rebar gun"

[ember locust]

they are truly awful. im forever grateful for stun rebar & the xeno basher

[mortal ginkgo]

Also the other time that I actually met with a Large Skitter was even worse:

I wanted to run over a Skitter with the Explorer and did so, so I got close to gather the remains only to see the ragdoll animation changed to standing up to see that the thing was actually almost half the size of my car.

I was like "uwot now"

[leaden acorn]

Hey I have a question. Is it possible to kill fauna just by running into it fast enough?

[green fiber]

with your legs? no

look at those toothpicks

[ember locust]

i've never tested it out myself but i think theres an achievement for it anyway so

[green fiber]

not even bladerunners can help there

[leaden turret]

hypertube canon? 🤔

[leaden acorn]

Good thing I have a mod that lets me upgrade the blade runners to even better blade runners then.

[mortal ginkgo]

I think player character does not have any interractions when it comes to speed other than Z axis

like a hypertube can kill you if you go directly down

[ember locust]

become the rebar

[mortal ginkgo]

but you cant kill monsters by throwing yourself

[leaden acorn]

Actually the tube doesn't kill you in that case, the ground does.

[leaden turret]

aim hypertube cannon at bean on multiplayer server, see what happens

[mortal ginkgo]

ah yes, bouncing

[cloud crown]

You like your mods uh?

[leaden turret]

ground doens't kill you, your inability to maintain your shape after colliding with it does

[mortal ginkgo]

I never thought I would see someone trying to gaslight someone else with... gravity.

Humans are amazing creatures.

[leaden turret]

well if you could unsplat yourself you wouldn't be splatted any more

[leaden acorn]

Just a few. Mostly Quality of Life and movement mods.

[mortal ginkgo]

I want to disagree but I am like "he is right, you know"

[cloud crown]

You have to drop on top Capitan America's shield to survive falls

[sterile blade]

You could hear a distant:
Reeeeeeeeeeee!!!

[mortal ginkgo]

She should have read my mind when I went "man, it would be so cool if the foundation below buildings could have a logistics floor of its own with all sort of things and visuals of sci-fi aesthetics, and buildings be like-"

The moment I got the "Shiny Signs", it was too late to return.

[leaden acorn]

Wheeeen Captain America throws his mighty Shiiiiiiield...~

[sterile blade]

If you're not worried about future items/belts spoilers, this video might scratch some itches in regards to logistic floors with lots of visual effects 😉
https://youtu.be/RoL8cB_4ev8

[mortal ginkgo]

wow, it looks gud

[mortal ginkgo]

here is my way of dealing with the buildings ^-^ #screenshots message

[sterile blade]

What if we had an equipment that made area damage based on speed on impact on the ground and we could use the jetpack downward by holding C or something...

[sterile blade]

Thanks! <3
I hope the smell of burnout isn't too strong

[sterile blade]

That is some impressive building design . I'm still trying to get even near that level of detailing for the outside of buildings 😅 (my "peak" was on interior design, with the beltwork shared before)

BTW, if you could switch the many square signs you use on ceilings with billboards, you might be able to have much more light inside interiors
(Billboards are the only signs that actually light up the environment, since 1.0 iirc)

[ivory condor]

I'm still mad that the devs ruined the performance with signs and now doing that type of building pattern is just a bad idea, the saves ran so much better in 1.0 and now its just objectively so much worse now

[sterile blade]

Satisfactory 1.69 will hit the sweet spot, I'm sure

[ivory condor]

rip signs🪦

Such a shame I wanted to do more sign factories that way and I'm realizing just how bad of a idea that is

[ripe basin]

I did everything right

My train system works

[rigid raven]

is it more efficient to split 240 a minute into 5 or 6 for things that take up 45 a minute?

[ripe basin]

Why would you do that?

Oh

[reef sage]

is the dedicated server for this game still have a lot of issues? my friends are experiencing tier unlock progression not syncing well. Keybinds sometimes dont work. they need to rejoin to fix it and its only a one time fix. Then at times one of them cant join the server and just get stuck in the loading screen.

[ripe basin]

I read that incorrectly

[rigid raven]

foundrys

[ripe basin]

I think this is called a manifold or a balancer (it depends)

When you split one belt into multiple machines

[lament olive]

Can't believe I'm here with a train signalling question but I'm totally stumped. Is there any bug in 1.1 with the left-hand train signals? I decided to do this save with left-hand signals just because I can - and every junction I make just loops into itself.

[ember locust]

splitting into 5 gives you 48 right? that would require overclocking each machine ever so slightly (assuming theyre not already underclocked)

[fallen violet]

is it me or this game lacks meaningful progresion after hoverpack and drones

[ripe basin]

Nuclear power plants? Converters? No?

[lament olive]

There's Phase 4 and 5? Nuclear Power? Set your own goals if you don't find those interesting. But yeah at some point you will peter out of things to do if you don't set some goals beyond the Phases

[brave flame]

Ey folks I just got the game and its been pretty good so far

Ive seen it on lets plays and had it on wishlist on a while; Finally had the opportunity to "try" it for a bit and see if it was okay, then refund it if otherwise

Fast forward 2 hours later, Im still working on the factory 😅 lolol

[fallen violet]

"buildings and parts with similar functionality but requiring different parts" is not that meaningful, no

at least not in the sense of drones, that open up a lot of gameplay oportunities

[dense violet]

Just clock your machines to use that much

[dense violet]

Or overclocking 1 machine

[dense violet]

You mean the end of the tech tree with alien tech?

[ripe basin]

Why does elevator have a maximum height

[fallen violet]

i mean that after drones and hoverboard, the game feels like it exhaust its tools to bait you into progression, and the last tiers are just "go do more parts with the stuff that you have"

[ripe basin]

It is sadly true

[lament olive]

True - but it is quite a bit more complex, and they look cool. I agree that there should be more late goals to actually make use of everything you end up unlocking but you can just set these for yourself too.

[fallen violet]

being complex is relative. more like, time consuming

if you set specific, small factories that make individual parts, theres not much more complexity than before going on

specially after they purposely give you drones to incentivise this

[barren dove]

Just comply

[steel sluice]

if you're finding it way too easy, that would make you in the minority. Many people struggle with the early concept of the game because it is forgiving on purpose and doesn't dictate any one single path forward in terms of how much of a given part to make or where to make them.

It doesn't really fit the design of the game to get so unwieldy at the end that most people can't finish the game - it's an automation game, and most people with 1000+ hours have been able to amuse themselves in the sandbox-like qualities instead of the end goal and unlockables.

[fallen violet]

im not finding it too easy, im just answering to someone saying that the endgame becomes much more complex, but thats if you decide to make it more complex

all it takes in the endgame is instead of making a general aluminum factory, make one for each part

[dense violet]

Do you just expect the game mechanics to go on forever? Tier 9 is pretty short as it is

[fallen violet]

forever? no

until the game finishes

instead of suddenly stopping

when the games still going

[fathom shuttle]

I’m gonna turn the entire swamp into a massive refinery cluster for the nuclear pasta lol

All for 6.5/min nuclear pasta

[fallen violet]

also this point would had made sense if the entire game was like that from the begining, but it isnt

the gameplay loop of the early to midgame follows what i described. get parts, unlock new toys and gameplay, get more parts

until it doesnt. which i wouldnt be surprised if its the reason why the majority of players havent fully completed the game

[lament olive]

Most people get stuck on phase 3 😛

[fathom shuttle]

I’ll need to build the refineries after I’m done with nuclear power tho

Will go for 300-400GW probably

[ember locust]

unlike me, who gets stuck in every phase 😎

[steel sluice]

I think a chunk of people never make it past coal power, and then drop off again before automating computers, and then there is another big loss at aluminium.

[ember locust]

sorry my balancer-default brain forgot about that lol

[dusty dragon]

@versed mirage #screenshots message believe gotta rebuild the belts near it to make it work i also had this issue and doing that 'ficsed' it

[shy mulch]

I was a little dissapointed with tier 5 tbh, I thought the game got more complex at every tier, except 5 that felt like a step back from tier 4, was just more of the same instead of adding complexity and difficulty, I think tier 5 could have / should have, had some proper next level complicated thing to be done

[steel sluice]

but also many players have been playing since before the last phase was introduced and have been happily just playing with their new toys.

[fathom shuttle]

@dense violet if I’m making 15/min uranium rods, how many plutonium fuel rods does that translate to

[lament olive]

To your point here - you feel like there are no new interesting things to play with after you complete the milestones in phase 4. Which is fair enough, there is only one more short Phase after then anyway, with albeit more complex system but not new mechanics. I suspect there may have been more storyline items planned originally, but since it was released with only 5% of originally planned story unfortunately this is what we have. I do think that a lot of players just enjoy playing the game and I for one like unlocking everything and THEN starting on projects I want to do. If thats not how you enjoy it then maybe you've reached the end of your enjoyment for the game but I don't think it's inherently badly designed/timed for a last phase

[fallen violet]

my point was less of a "majority of players stop playing at drones because its the last meaningful unlock" and more of a "the game steadily slows down with meaningful unlocks until it dies at drones"

[shy mulch]

rule of thumb is 4:2:1
if you have 4 uranium power stations, the waste will feed 2 plutonium, and the waste from that will feed 1 ficsonium

[steel sluice]

I'm not saying it's perfect, but it has some DMR stuff and byproducts you have to deal with that hadn't been part of the space elevator calculus until that point.

[fathom shuttle]

I assume alternates change that?

[shy mulch]

they can do, or sloops, but generally that fits 🙂

[steel sluice]

and there are people who complete the game without ever touching trains or drones and just use belts everywhere. The unlocks aren't prescriptive and everything is optional.

[fallen violet]

?

what a strange answer

[barren dove]

Meh got 1700 hours in. Still find ways to challenge myself in a new playrhrough. Needs a little imagination.

[fallen violet]

just because someone decides to not use trains doesnt mean that i dont care if they give trains to me

[steel sluice]

you're asking strange questions. "why isn't this game better?" and I say "better for who?"

[shy mulch]

let's embrace the strange 😄

[fallen violet]

i didnt asked why this game isnt better though

[shy mulch]

I think the game needs more ducks

[fallen violet]

i commented why this game is not that good at the end as it is in the early and middle points

[buoyant plume]

has anyone found a workaround, or a root cause to avoid for hyper junction direction switching becoming unresponsive?

i don't understand why they stop accepting the 'e' command to switch, but i do know it can be fixed by closing to main menu and then reconnecting to the server (this is a dedicated server)

[fathom shuttle]

Tier 5 is the beginning of mid game though, you can’t overwhelm players from the start

[shy mulch]

maybe I meant phase, whichever, I'm talking about the last bit

[leaden turret]

that suggestion is quackers

[shy mulch]

I always get that terminology mixed up

[barren dove]

I'm doing it the other way arround this playthrough. No belts between factories distances. 😆

In my last playthrough had a rocketfuel setup all with trains between factories. Gonna go nuts this time around.

[fathom shuttle]

I mean you unlock oil and trains, also get pretty complex items like HMF and computers

[steel sluice]

I always think it's neat that people can literally work out how to finish the game however they want. The answer to every question about "Is it better to..." is always "it depends, what will you find more fun?"

[shy mulch]

isn't that fairly early on?

[fathom shuttle]

Trains are tier 6

[ember locust]

i think they're talking about tier 9?

[shy mulch]

I'm talking about PHASE 5

[fathom shuttle]

Ohh

[shy mulch]

I said tier instead of phase, I explained that I got the terminology mixed up

[fathom shuttle]

Well I guess you’re correct lol, phase 5 is a bit of a let down especially when it comes to ficsonium

[shy mulch]

it just seemed like there was nothing "more complex" at that point, it was just more of the same, and not even that much more

[fallen violet]

it is obvious that when you are having a casual conversation and not a talk about semantics or phylosophy, "is it better..." refers better to the opinion of the majority of the people that partook in that activity or product

given that most people dont finish the game, and a few people here agreed with the point i made, there is clearly some room for something "better"

[shy mulch]

phase 4 was definitely the hardest part of the game

[steel sluice]

sorry I was talking about people's questions about logistics and how to organise them

[dusty dragon]

@cinder kraken #screenshots message looks like one of your entrances isn't connected to a hypertube

[dense violet]

Depends on your recipes

[cinder kraken]

@dusty dragon

[dense violet]

So tier 9 and alien tech doesn’t exist, got it

[dusty dragon]

other theory the branched entrances are supposed to be the 'from' and the singular exit is supposed to be the 'to' so you're sending in conflicting paths which shouldn't work

[cinder kraken]

i mean i can enter it but cannot exit

[dusty dragon]

makes sense, if you go counterclockwise you will be stuck in this setting, same for clockwise, but if it worked before it would have been clockwise if you could branch to the left

[midnight timber]

Hello, could I get help regarding transferring a save file from a friend?
I've looked up how to do it, but I can't get past the simple p[art of finding where my files are saved at..
...and it appears i can't send a screenshot to show you
there is no SavedFiles in FactoryGame

[south plume]

Is 100 aluminum casings and 100 sheets per minute a decent amount for a start? So I can move further

[midnight timber]

There is only Binaries, Content, andPlugins

[leaden turret]

#faq

[midnight timber]

Ah, it's in users, not steam proper
that isn't clear at all

[spice patio]

That start is macro to your own user profiles AppData\Local\

Saves are almost never under the game install directory, as in most cases that would need the game running as Admin to write to.

[midnight timber]

Ohh, alright

Tht explains some quirks I've had with previous games as well

thanks

[hard ivy]

%localappdata% goes directly to C:\Users\{USER}\Appdata\Local

[midnight timber]

Thank yous, I found it

[spice patio]

Well, where-ever the users Appdata is, that is just the default.
Mine is on completely different drive for example.

[timid rune]

Is it just me that tempered copper ingot is kinda a meh receipe (in terms of coke usage?)

[hard ivy]

It has the same ore efficiency as pure but yeah, 0.66 coke per ingot seems kinda meh. But then again, coke is pretty cheap

[timid rune]

pure is actually slightly higher (2.5x vs 2.4x)

but it is kinda academical difference lol

[hard ivy]

Oh, I was looking at caterium lol

[tall blaze]

what would you say is the age group that this game is made for/aimed at?

[timid rune]

I am using tempered caterium mainly because I need to sink HOR for something else (synthetic fabric I am looking at you lol

[hard ivy]

20+

[hard ivy]

How much fabric are you making???

5/min of each filter is enough to last you forever

[timid rune]

not a lot

actually I might redo this spot I am building off

[hard ivy]

I used all my HOR from filters on smokeless powder and rubber and plastic for other equipment

And on my 1.0 save, I used the byproduct resin from my fuel plant so I didn't even have to use the resin recipe

[timid rune]

I basically have 0 fuel production atm since I am using trains lol

[fathom shuttle]

More like 1/min lol

[hard ivy]

I have 0 packaged fuel production. But I have a fuel power plant

[fathom shuttle]

I wanna do a weapons factory but it seems kinda pointless tbh

[hard ivy]

Go ahead, build a nuke plant with only 1 filter/min

[fathom shuttle]

Do you go through filters that fast??

[hard ivy]

5/min at max radiation.

Which is why 5/min will last you forever

More is completely useless, unless you have more than 1 person in the world

You could probably get away with like 3/min, but they're so cheap that there's no difference between 1, 3 or 5/min in terms of effort involved

Might as well do 5 and know you'll absolutely never run out

[fathom shuttle]

I guess it’s something that I’ll need get out of the way eventually anyway so I’ll do it later along side the weapons factory

Do the filter automatically equip from the dimensional depot?