satisfactory

[burnt ferry]

i know what you talking abou

[hard ivy]

yeah. but idk, lifts seem a bit wonky in 1.1

maybe it got disconnected

[small escarp]

Is it ethical to leave the game running overnight while I sleep?

[hard ivy]

unless you placed it today, and didn't reload the save since then, then a disconnection is unlikely

[hard ivy]

up to you

[leaden turret]

are you responsible for your electricity bill?

[trim vine]

Do you think that is ethical?

[small escarp]

Yes 🙂

[leaden turret]

then feel free to pay microtransactions to your energy supplier

[small escarp]

I've had my fair share of autoclickers + idle game running while I sleep so I guess?

[trim vine]

Then it is acceptable

[frail sleet]

it's like 20 cents tops, just fps limit low

[trim vine]

Are you new to the game?

[small escarp]

Yes. Like <50 hours

Having so much fun tho but man these rotors going for 4 a minute just makes me wanna leave it on

[trim vine]

3 things in this game are your priority at all times

1 Power
2 Aggressive mam and hard drive research
3 whatever you want

Leaving the game on is #3

[white dawn]

"ethical" is a tough question. Personally I couldn't justify the extra expense/wear/etc involved with leaving a heavy game on overnight or AFKing, and I don't believe Satisfactory is an AFK game. There's always plenty of things to do in the game; if you need to wait for some materials, there's a huge map out there to explore

[small escarp]

Oh yeah I got lucky on my second world to get ingots -> screws early on

[white dawn]

And exploration gets you spheres, sloops, DNA, and hard drives; all extremely useful things

And if 4/min rotors is too slow for you, you could always spend the time bumping that up to 8/min instead, etc. :D

[pastel carbon]

I'd say that satisfactory isn't designed to be an idle / afk game

[small escarp]

I've thought of that too. Factory games are much more optimize and analyze but this game has that added exploration factor so I guess I won't leave it on

[mystic oriole]

yup, can just make another factory somewhere else to bump those rookie numbers up.

[pastel carbon]

But if you want to idle / afk overnight, no one's stopping you (except your own electricity bill lol)

[trim vine]

What does leaving the game running and exploration have to do with one another?

[arctic swallow]

meanwhile me waiting for my motors to fill the container

[pastel carbon]

That means you aren't making enough motors

Make more

[ionic forge]

Me handcrafting square frames

[small escarp]

I guess the added exploration of the game makes it less of an idle game compared to other factory games that justifies idling

[pastel carbon]

Pretty much no factory game justifies idling because they're not designed as idle games

[burnt ferry]

just doesnt work.. the items are transferred in the right direction but then the transtation is not accepting them .. i also cant place an additional belt between lift and station

[small escarp]

I never thought of the wear of my pc

[white dawn]

There's also factory decoration to take into consideration. Could spend that time getting better at making things look nice. :)

[arctic swallow]

for me to make more i need to build about 2,6k refineries to make iron ingots

[pastel carbon]

The one factory-like game I can think of that's designed around idling is GTNH, but that's more a mc modpack than a game

And it's about as grindy as you might expect

[arctic swallow]

don't remind me of it

[small escarp]

That's the thing. I need my sink pumping tickets to unlock the decor I want that's why I wanted to idle. HAHAHA

[trim vine]

Im saying there is no correlation

Idle, dont idle

Wait for shit to fill up while you explore, it doesnt matter

However, the only real reason to let the game idle is to let your sinks et those good coupons

[pastel carbon]

If you don't have enough production, make more

This is true in pretty much every factory game

[white dawn]

To be fair, both wear and power are probably fairly incremental, especially if the PC's being left on for other reasons anyway. Technically it'd add up, but MTBFs are unlikely to change much

[arctic swallow]

i put 400+h into that mod it was not worth it :(

[pastel carbon]

I play pretty much any other GT modpack but that one lol

[small escarp]

new horizons is an unemployed job

[reef basin]

no factory game justifies idling

[trim vine]

Ok lawful good

[small escarp]

greeny with the clutch

[reef basin]

?

[small escarp]

Fine I won't idle

Thanks for the inputs 🙂

[trim vine]

-stares in true neutral-

[white dawn]

Chaotic Neutral players write a script to randomly start up + shut down the game. Gotta be on your toes and take advantage of the factory as the RNG permits

[pastel carbon]

Idle if you want to, but it's good to keep in mind that factory games aren't generally designed around it because the core gameplay loop isn't to idle your way out of problems, but rather build more

[untold moat]

CN players: "Hey guys im Josh, welcome back to Lets Game It Out..."

[remote wasp]

I love rebuilding and not even finishing before deciding to rebuild again

[reef basin]

that's why I never rebuild

[untold moat]

and now I have "Keep Building" by Kuroi Riquid running through my mind...

someone give me a number 1-4

[hard ivy]

3

[reef basin]

-3

[mystic oriole]

pi

[arctic swallow]

π

[mystic oriole]

or √2

[sour ledge]

curiosity: it still helpful to train efficiency to throw a path signal down every dozen or two foundations to break up long tracks of rail?

[hard ivy]

path? absolutely not. block, yes

[reef basin]

never was

[sour ledge]

wait, it was block signals?

h-uh. good thing i haven't gotten to spamming signals

[south sinew]

huh, elevators have a really small max height

I'm gonna have to have multiple elevators

[tidal pollen]

i have a question sure where to post about it, i think its a bug.. i restarted my map when 1.1 came out and transferred all my blueprints because i like to reuse some. when i reused my blender one for rocket fuel it has the nitro one saved which i wanted but when i went to the mam looking for something else i realized i hadnt learned it yet. Is that working as intended or a known bug?

[viral tendon]

Why uranium always gotta hide somewhere, i can't find it

[white dawn]

You generally want your blocks to be at least as long as the longest train going through the track, so a train can fit entirely within the single block. But for long sections of rail, I tend to only put block signals every 200-300m

[leaden ether]

At minimum they need to be further apart than your longest train of course, but I found more like 50 or so foundations worked pretty good with 4 trains on the same set of tracks.

[sour ledge]

perfect, thank you

[reef basin]

even the "longest train = minimal distance" is just a rule of thumb and not really necessary

[white dawn]

Yeah, you probably won't run into problems if it ends up having some shorter blocks; sometimes that'll happen just due to the physical restraints of where you're building an intersection or whatever

[leaden ether]

I'm guessing it would block both sections in that case?

[sour ledge]

im blueprint spamming my rail and use tiny one car trains exclusively so i'll just put a block signal up every 8 foundations since that's how big my blueprint is 'o.o

[viral tendon]

Can someone explain how do i find uranium, because when i do the scan thingy it ends up inside a mountain

[south sinew]

that means it's in a cave

[viral tendon]

I can't find the entrance

[white dawn]

It'll be one of:

1. Caves
2. Heights

[viral tendon]

I found one but it's not there

[south sinew]

check SCIM as it has some helpful markers for caves

or just go find a different node because sometimes the game just hates you

[white dawn]

Some cave systems are pretty big; you can use SCIM if you want (https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map) and turn on its cave layer, if you want some hints about where the entrances might be

[south sinew]

I had a couple caves I just couldn't find even with SCIM

[gentle perch]

Does anyone know the next time the game might be on sale I was hoping the summer sale but unfortunately that’s not the case

[viral tendon]

Damn those cave systems are prettyy big

[reef basin]

no, and it doesn't make sense for devs to announce sales in-advance anyway

[leaden turret]

add it to your wishlists, get notified

[viral tendon]

Not as big as in sons of the forest ig

Fuckass uranium

I just got into a cave and turns out it was just a big tunnel to the top of the mountaint

[silk trail]

whats the best way to deal with fuel with drones? it seems like a seriously wasetful way i am doing it

[south sinew]

you automate fuel and you put the fuel in, there's not really any other way to do it

[midnight mulch]

are trains meant to cause alot alot of lag

[viral tendon]

No i think not

[silk trail]

ya, but say i have a drone station on the other side of the map from where i am packging the feul...

[south sinew]

use a drone to deliver the fuel for the other drones obviously

but also I believe that drone routes only require the originator to be fuelled; you don't have to fuel the destination

[white dawn]

Seems to be the case over here, btw. Might just be Steam's CDNs taking a bit to refresh

[white dawn]

Correct: you can supply fuel either at the source, or the destination, or at both sites, if you like. But just one of the two sites being fuelled is sufficient

[viral tendon]

I can't seem to find entrance to the cave

[white dawn]

(if you don't have fuel at the site the drone starts from, you might have to hand-feed it the initial amount to get it over to the remote side)

[viral tendon]

Even tho i'm using scim for it

[alpine apex]

is there any other server for satisfactory that arent english?

[silk trail]

so at least 2 drone stations for each outpost... thats what i am doing. but thats heavy on the fuel

[white dawn]

I mean, in the end there's nothing for it except exploration. And remember that there are a nonzero number of uranium nodes which are up really high instead of in caves

If you can't find that one, could try to locate another one instead

[viral tendon]

Nvm i got it

[south sinew]

You could place one fuel drone station between a few outposts and belt it the rest of the way

[fast valve]

i am looking to french to begin a new game

[south sinew]

but honestly, just make more fuel, since diluted fuel is crazy and gives so much fuel

there's not a giant need to be fuel efficient IMO

[viral tendon]

Nice, i found uranium, time to mine that thing

[leaden turret]

using one's tongue with one's gaming computer is not a recommended course of action

[viral tendon]

Alpha stinger is looking at me

What do i do

[mortal ginkgo]

stare him back, show him who is alpha around these parts of the town

[south sinew]

kill it

[silk trail]

i am getting started on nuclear and i am tired of building oil bases. i have literally dug out every oil node and giser on the map for power or fuel. and i am still short on both for my nuclear plant

[south sinew]

uh.. what fuel recipes are you using, and how much power are you actually making?

[silk trail]

how much better are batteries anyway?

[viral tendon]

I exploded aplha stinger with 5 cluster nobelisks and 10 basic ones

I came here at the cave, and now i'm missing 1 fuckass cable for the miner

[silk trail]

close to 45k... i need 20k for my nuclear plant and i am using 30k for other factories

[white dawn]

What do you mean? The item "battery" which can be used as vehicle/drone fuel (and one alt recipe), or Power Storage devices?

(and better compared to what?)

[silk trail]

ill definatly be cutting it short with the fuel tho

[south sinew]

you mean 45GW?

[silk trail]

for drone fuel

[white dawn]

Aha

[silk trail]

mw

[white dawn]

Batteries have roughly the same power density as Rocket Fuel (slightly less, actually), and the same drone flight speed as Rocket Fuel

[south sinew]

with diluted fuel you can make 8GW from a pure oil node and that's even without overclocking, or rocket fuel

[hard ivy]

20 GW if you OC the node

[south sinew]

so even a couple nodes should be able to do 45GW at your stage of teh game

[white dawn]

IMO they're a fine fuel for drones, and since you need to have aluminum involved to package the Rocket Fuel anyway, IMO batteries often make sense as drone fuel

In the end, any of the fuels will do, though.

You can get all the exact numbers for the various fuels at the Drone wiki entry, fwiw

!wikisearch drone

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=drone

[viral tendon]

Could you explain how the fuck

[hard ivy]

oil -> heavy oil residue -> diluted fuel -> burn
600 oil -> 20 GW

[south sinew]

diluted fuel and heavy oil residue alts are.. good

[viral tendon]

I only have residual so ig i don't know

[white dawn]

Yeah, the HOR recipe is also a vital component of that chain. If you're just using it on the byproduct HOR from some other petrochem processing, it won't seem amazing. :)

[silk trail]

i dont have that recepie... besides, i do need th rubber and plastic

[faint epoch]

hey

[hard ivy]

rubber and plastic are best made from fuel

[south sinew]

Diluted fuel is crazy efficient and compounds with HOR alt, and if you're building nuclear for power, I can assure you it's less effort to farm drives for diluted fuel or diluted packaged fuel, rather than make nuclear power

[open pollen]

Do drones consume the fuel container? (The canister/fuel tank I mean)

[hard ivy]

yes. there's nothing left after a drone burns its fuel

[viral tendon]

What's the hor alt

[silk trail]

again, i dont have those recepies... pretty much no refinery recepies other than alu stuff

[white dawn]

(Well I don't know about that being the best way to make rubber+plstic, but utilizing the Polymer Resin byproduct from Diluted is certainly an A+ move. :) My 1.0 Computer + HSC factory was powered entirely from Resin byproduct)

[viral tendon]

And what's the diluted fuel

Like recipe

[hard ivy]

diluted fuel

[silk trail]

i want to progress XD... i an so sick of oil.

[south sinew]

Heavy Oil Residue is 3 oil -> 4 HOR, and Diluted (Packaged) Fuel is 1 HOR -> 2 fuel

so that becomes 3 oil -> 8 fuel

plus some resin byproduct

[white dawn]

There's two. The first one you have access to, during Phase 3, is "Packaged Diluted Fuel," which is made in a refinery. For that one you're best off doing little closed loops of 1x Reinfery + 2x Packager, which can fit into a 4x4 blueprint.

[south sinew]

and if you use Recycled Plastic/Rubber, that means 3 oil -> 8 Rubber/Plastic if you'd rather get that than power

[viral tendon]

So somerslooping packager is op but this is not, ok... ok...

[white dawn]

Once you're in Phase 4 you can get the "Diluted Fuel" recipe in the Blender, which lets you take water + HOR into the same building, so no need for the packaging loop. Same material ratios, though the Blender version produces 100/min whereas the Packaged version produces 60/min

[mystic oriole]

I use the resin byproduct to make the packages

[south sinew]

Diluted Fuel and Diluted Packaged Fuel are the same recipe except Packaged is a bit more annoying, but you can get it earlier

[white dawn]

The packaged version is A+, especially once you have that little closed-loop blueprint. The blueprint becomes a one-click mini-Blender. You can even include the Empty Packages inside the input of the machine inside the blueprint

Plus it's fun to see the packages zipping around

(Though once you have access to the Blender version, you'll 100% want to start using that one for any future Diluted needs)

[south sinew]

yeah I made my own closed-loop blueprint and stamped that out

[white dawn]

Technically the Packaged version consumes more power; a single loop is less power than the Blender, but you need more of them (60/min vs. 100/min) so it evens out in favor of the Blender. The difference is pretty minimal though

[wild kindle]

can you use petroleum coke in coal generators since it says its a weaker version of coal

[arctic swallow]

yes

[wild kindle]

alr thanks

[viral tendon]

What's the fuel for nuclear reactor

[white dawn]

Indeed! Click the little orange icon next to the input bin on a coal Gen to see the consumption rate

[hard ivy]

yes. but not for steel without a coke steel recipe

[arctic swallow]

fuel rods

[hard ivy]

these are not the same items

[white dawn]

Uranium Fuel Rods, Plutonium Fuel Rods, and Ficsonium Fuel Rods

[hard ivy]

uranium, plutonium, and ficsonium fuel rods

[viral tendon]

Fuck

Do i still need water?

[hard ivy]

yes

[viral tendon]

Fuckass game

[hard ivy]

just look into the reactor GUI lol

[viral tendon]

I had to make sure

[arctic swallow]

long ago it didn't need water

[viral tendon]

How much fuel rods per minute do i need for not overclocked nuclear reactor

Uranium ones

[white dawn]

An easy QoL for NPPs is to build their water extractors right next to the plants, btw. A lot of folks end up making these gigantic water pipelines instead, but having them right there is generally far less headache

[hard ivy]

0.2/min

[viral tendon]

Damn

So i can make 0.4 per minute and make it 200%

That's nice

[arctic swallow]

ir makes nuclear waste that you can't sink!!!

[viral tendon]

The only nice thing in nuclear power plants

[hard ivy]

bro going into nuclear to make only 5 GW

[viral tendon]

Can't you make something with it and then sink it

[hard ivy]

yes, turn into plutonium rods

[arctic swallow]

platinium pellets

[viral tendon]

How do i unlock plutonium rods

[hard ivy]

pellets are not sinkable

[arctic swallow]

fr?

[hard ivy]

in tier 8

[white dawn]

Have to go all the way to rods to sink, btw

[arctic swallow]

damn

[white dawn]

The only post-Uranium Fuel Rod product that's sinkable is Plutonium Rods

[viral tendon]

I making it to test what it is

I really don't need a lot of power right now

[shy mulch]

I enjoy making more power than I need, waaaay more

[white dawn]

Fwiw, IMO vanilla-recipe Uranium NPPs are great to build in chunks of 10

The ratios and support machinery counts end up working out great

[shy mulch]

I always will do that first, then after that I don't eed to think about power when I am making factories

[viral tendon]

Ig i will unlock plutinum rods and then do the power so i can not worry about the wate

[ember oar]

why was Satisfactory £13.99 last steam summer sale but £23.99 this summer sale, was gunna buy my friend it 💔

[hard ivy]

because it went out of early access since then

and early access comes with a disconut

(usually)

[arctic swallow]

and golden cosmetics don't forget!!!!

[ember oar]

my heart im too broke for that oh well tyyy

[loud ivy]

just realised i can theoretically make nuke nobelisks now

[loud ivy]

the fauna is about to suffer big time

[viral tendon]

I think i got a bug so i constanyl have radiation without having uranium in my invenotry

[hard ivy]

do not sort your inventory with radioactive items in it

reload to fix

[viral tendon]

Fuckass game

[lament kettle]

I had a similar issue, when I died from radioactivity from exploring and I respawned at the Hub. My Hub area had radioactivity till after I reset the game

[white dawn]

You've got until July 10 to embezzle some money! :D

[viral tendon]

I hate this shit

Why do i need aluimionmuim crystal osciliators asnd compuiter for a radio contorl unit

[white dawn]

(Disclaimer: apocalyptech does not condone or support the practice of embezzling money)

[viral tendon]

And i need 50 of them

[white dawn]

And CSS seem to have continued to participate in basically every Steam sale, post-1.0 release, so it'll be onsale again in the future, even if you miss this one

[ember oar]

xD FR its a fantastic game but I cant warrant £23.99 on discount; just too much hopefully itll come to gamepass one day

[crude canyon]

yeah radio control units are when the game turns endgame

[loud ivy]

they are pretty easy wdym

[viral tendon]

Dear satisfactorey can we stop with making the game the most complicated shit i've played using only 1 tier for it

[loud ivy]

just build some computers and some crystal ocsillators in the same area

[naive pendant]

HMF and RCU aren’t very different I thought?

[arctic swallow]

if you look at the end game items they are not :D

[viral tendon]

Everything is pretty easy if you look at it this way

[hard ivy]

now you're getting it lol

[naive pendant]

Seemed all a gradual complexity increase overall. Any specific jumps are more likely due to specific mechanics the player has neglected to learn yet coming back to bite them.

[viral tendon]

No i think i'm not getting it

[fervent tartan]

is there anywhere to report minor bugs

[fossil ice]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @hard ivy

[viral tendon]

Good thing i have crystal oscilitarot production for radio control unit

[naive pendant]

If you haven’t yet, good idea to look at the next couple items in T4 using SatisfactoryTools item section. There’s a lot of options around RCU, etc.

I spent like 2 weeks slow planning phase 4

[peak wasp]

Finished tier 2 space elevator finally.

[open pollen]

This is kind of where I’m at currently. Figuring out and planning what I need to make and expand on for current stuff and working on that

[naive pendant]

Yea, just is a lot to unpack for sure.

[open pollen]

Just gotta take it slow and 1 step at a time I’ve found

[naive pendant]

And there’s the whole Al thing. Choosing where and how to transport it. And what form to transport Al as.

[open pollen]

My lack of long range resource transportation is beginning to bite me in the ass at this point. I have like different places that are great but they are separated at this point

Just finished a large rocket fuel power plant so I won’t have to worry about power for a good while and can continue figuring crap out lol

[naive pendant]

Mhm. Al is where long distance transport is really forced. Al and cooper being physically separated.

[west jackal]

Does anyone have good sat youtuber rec? Not trying to learn but like watching others play

[hard ivy]

nah, just choose the right spot

[sour ledge]

aw. when the patch notes said more ada messages i was hoping for more alien+ada messages grabbing artifacts, but the 27th is still marked final

[viral tendon]

I love sneaking up on spittes, throwing cluster nobelisk at their leg and then explode so every cluster charge detonates instantly

[burnt ferry]

I love beating completely passive creatures to death

And otherwise be never bugged by them

[viral tendon]

I believe spitters aren't pssaive

They always throw fuckass fireballs at me, especially hate the big ones

[burnt ferry]

All are passive when you set the setting

Haven’t said spitters in particular are

[viral tendon]

I don't

[burnt ferry]

Ye that’s my point

[arctic swallow]

even him?

[burnt ferry]

Why would I? He’s not attacking me without the passive setting

Also he yields no dna for tickets

[viral tendon]

My fucking goodness

[arctic swallow]

?

[viral tendon]

How am i supposed to get oil and water together

They're like 100m apart

[hard ivy]

? most oil is near water

[arctic swallow]

pipes

[hard ivy]

that's nothing lmao

[burnt ferry]

Oil is water to some degree

[viral tendon]

Yeah but oil is like 50m upwards

[burnt ferry]

Obvious troll no?

[hard ivy]

a mk2 pump or 2?

[arctic swallow]

take oil downwards?

[viral tendon]

I mean i have mk 2 pump

[burnt ferry]

Rather oil

[viral tendon]

So, if someone is not that good at piping doesn't mean they're troll

lower down the ego

[iron patio]

im having issues with vertical splitters, they completely break the lift, arent they supposed to be working in 1.1??

[arctic swallow]

that wasn't even about that.......

[burnt ferry]

You didn’t even talk about piping. You just asked how to get water and oil together when they’re 100 m apart

That’s 25 foundations

How is it not a troll?

[viral tendon]

Easily

The pipes aren't belts

They can't just transport anywhere

[burnt ferry]

So your issue is to move the water up 50m?

Why not bring the oil down 50m?

[viral tendon]

Yeah usually even with pumps it doesn't work

[viral tendon]

What's the difference

[burnt ferry]

Doesn’t require pumps at all?

[hard ivy]

?

[burnt ferry]

Because gravity

[summer horizon]

STEAM SAYLES STARTED

[south sinew]

huh, I never realised that you don't have to open the machine configuration screen to paste settings

you can just paste at them

[burnt ferry]

I second the ?. I bet you have one pump too high or too little

[viral tendon]

I tried using pumps once to transport fluid higher

[arctic swallow]

guys i think i found something

[burnt ferry]

Check your pumps config. They’ll tell the headlift

If that’s > 50m place a pump somewhere above

[viral tendon]

They were just saying 0 headlift while it was like 15m high

[arctic swallow]

FICSIT isn’t a company
It’s an acronym - Forced Integration of Conscious Systems In Transit
You're not building factories
You're uploading yourself
One machine at a time

[burnt ferry]

If it says 0 there’s a connection issue

[hard ivy]

they say 0 when they have no fluid to pump

[viral tendon]

I'm pretty sure it did

[burnt ferry]

„Pretty sure“

How about being sure?

[viral tendon]

Yeah because i said "i tried"

[burnt ferry]

Follow your pipe from the source

[viral tendon]

That means in past

[burnt ferry]

Constantly check filling

And find the spot where the next pipe isn’t filled any more. Before that you have to place the next pump

[arctic swallow]

do you pipe it across terrain or on foundations?

on foundations it is a lot easier to manage

[burnt ferry]

When the pump says zero headlift the problem is before that

@viral tendon put a Pump directly after the source. Then power it and check its headlift

[arctic swallow]

i know but on foundations it is a lot easier to see

[burnt ferry]

It’s true. Just saying we need to look a bit deeper here

[south sinew]

mkay, pure iron, pure copper, pure caterium, and wet concrete are done

[burnt ferry]

@viral tendon the headlift reported is until your next pump

[light obsidian]

hihiiii im starting a new save file last time i played was before 1.0 and im not sure whether to skip intro and if i do.. im not sure where to put my base at the beginning to have easier access to caterium, quartz, coal, copper, limestone, iron, oil etc

[south sinew]

may as well re-do the intro, it's not long and will refresh your memory of the basics

[reef basin]

well starting location only needs iron copper and limestone, and after phase 1 you should not have a single base, but rather spread factories all over the map

[south sinew]

as for where to put your base, it's not the most critical where you start, yeah

[light obsidian]

oh i didnt know that

till phase 4 (highest i got in my last save file) i had js one base lol

[reef basin]

well game heavily pushes you to expand, resources are spread over map, ADA tells you to make outposts, etc.

[south sinew]

personally I prefer the one base approach but I don't mind transporting resources a long way

[light obsidian]

lol makes sense.. but i js kinda had alot of conveyers lol

[reef basin]

you obviously can have just one base, but it needs a lot of planning and experience to not be a huge pain

[light obsidian]

ahh

and i js use hyper tubes to connect all those factories?

[reef basin]

eh, I personally don't see a need to travel to other factories once they are built

[south sinew]

you can use a road or train or something but hypercannons are amazing so I use those

[reef basin]

and usually they are connected with a train anyway, so I use trains

cannons I do not like

[light obsidian]

i deadass didnt even know there was a train in this game

[south sinew]

hypercannons get you from A to B very, very fast

they are just a slight pain to set up the first time, after that, super easy, super fsat

[arctic swallow]

cho cho mf - ada

[open pollen]

At the very beginning you’d probably be zip lining tbh

[light obsidian]

oh

theres ziplines 😭

[dim badger]

27 euros for satisfactory should i buy right now

[south sinew]

yeah

[light obsidian]

yes

[arctic swallow]

of course

[left totem]

no

with 27 euros you can eat

[light obsidian]

is that a fade pfp

[left totem]

no

[open pollen]

Well there is a zip line tool and you use it on power lines. I’d recommending doing a bunch of research in the MAM early on to get it and other things

[dim badger]

27 euros is like a grain sand at the beach

[reef basin]

do you have the money?
will your financial situation not be damaged by spending the money?
do you want the game?

if you answered three times yes, then go ahead

[light obsidian]

ohhh shit thats cool omg

[light obsidian]

when i bought the game it was no, no and yes

i ate rice and hotsauce for like a week but worth it

[dim badger]

3 times no

[arctic swallow]

do you have money?
1.yes?
-buy a game
2.no?
-do you have soul?
*yes? sell it
*no? lie

[reef basin]

I'd rather not push random people to make financial decisions that can have bad consequences, even as a joke

[dim badger]

i have a job

[open pollen]

You realize you are asking people on a Satisfactory dedicated discord if you should buy the game? Obviously we would mostly say yes

[dim badger]

i wanted to ask why i should buy it

[reef basin]

good for you, but that doesn't mean you necessarily have excess money to throw on a game

[arctic swallow]

do it for him

[dim badger]

@reef basin i should ask you

[mortal ginkgo]

it is a chill sandboxy calm factory game albeit with some smol fighting here and there.

if you want to make factories in a vertical gameplay, this can be a good factory game for you

[left totem]

it's a fun that can keep you entertained for hours upon hours if you're all about simple math, optimisation and (just a last thing to do...)

in my fair and honest opinion

[viral tendon]

It's nice game, you either get into it instantly or wait a year then try it, and you're addicted to it

Fun game but not everyone would love it

[dim badger]

If its a chill game i like it

[viral tendon]

You can buy it, play 2 hours check it out and then if you like it then you can keep it, or refujnd

Before phase 4 the game could be a little hard

[prime wadi]

anyone got a good blueprint for storage and sorting, late game?

[left totem]

you don't have any timer or daily things to get

it's not an idle game either, you're mostly expected to be doing things while your other things are producing other things

[prime wadi]

how do I drop a blueprint in now? I only see the megaprint option where it used to be

[west eagle]

guys i've made an idea. What if you were to combine reanimated sam and ammo, and make ammo that doesn't have to be reloaded, but only comes from your dimentional depo? Do you think that would be a great idea?

[arctic swallow]

more sense i think would be a gun that can access dimentional depo where you upload ammo

[wicked marlin]

game got some kind of placement issue, and now i cant load my save. :(

i was building some small vertical factories for iron plates, deleted some foundations, the game kept trying to place things on them, but wouldnt report a clipping issue when i nudged things down.

[untold moat]

odd.

[tall blaze]

do yalls fps capper on satisfactory work

[untold moat]

why do you want an FPS cap?

[tall blaze]

because my monitor is 144hz

and my gpu can do like 230+ fps

[mortal ginkgo]

it already has one in video settings

I got it on 120

[hard ivy]

increase graphics settings

[tall blaze]

i have it on 144 but my radeon thingy says its 140-210

i think it might be wrong though

[tall blaze]

its on ultra

[hard ivy]

enable global illumination, disable upscaling and framegen

there's no way you can get 200+ FPS in this game on absolute max settings

[tall blaze]

global illumination looks very beautiful

[midnight mulch]

what specs neet

[tall blaze]

6700 xt with 5 5600x

[tall blaze]

yes i get like 60-90 fps with global illumination

[midnight mulch]

u done anything any special because im on 7 5700x gpu 3070 and i just lag with high settings

even though benmarch puts it on ultra

still lags weird also what graphic api you got?

[tall blaze]

well

3070 has 8gb vram while 6700xt has 12gb

[loud leaf]

any ideas how to make a bridge going uphill for trucks?

[tall blaze]

wdym

[hard ivy]

ramps

[loud leaf]

looks ugly

[hard ivy]

2 wide at least

[midnight mulch]

directX 11 or 12

[tall blaze]

12

[mystic oriole]

double-check your monitor, see what it can handle. no sense trying to generate more frames than what you can see. I learned that with minecraft.

[tall blaze]

it could be background processes too

[midnight mulch]

you mind sending me ur graphic settings in dms? but the weird thing is i used to run max on everything and like yesterday everything went to hell

[mystic oriole]

windows updates???

[tall blaze]

are your drivers updated?

[midnight mulch]

yeah yesterday

ive tried going back but cant seem to do it

[tall blaze]

might be a nvidia issue then

[tall blaze]

you want me to screenshot it?

[midnight mulch]

yeah

[mystic oriole]

there was a guy who said there's a bug that cuts fps -10% on the newest updates

[midnight mulch]

my game is just unplayable at the moment

[hard ivy]

if you've got the new nvida app, you can. if not, you'll have to downgrade drivers manually

[tall blaze]

i sometimes get frame stutters

soo idk

[midnight mulch]

i just get full on 5 fps and stuff just doesnt not wanna seem to work

[tall blaze]

[cunning fern]

Is there a way for replacing a crate box to another empty spot? Unfortunately I cannot dismantle it to place it somewhere else.

[sharp sentinel]

Seriously tempted to take apart my entire aluminum factory and instead rebuild it over a waterfall.

[dull wraith]

what is the use for iron alloy ingots, i got it in my harddrive scan

[bitter lodge]

Do it.

I torn down my iron and steel factory moved 2 seperate factories into one massive factory at a spot across the entire map :) things look 10x better and produce way more

[sharp sentinel]

If I do I can almost entirely remove having to build a bunch of drone ports just to make aluminum plates or whatever they're called.

[bitter lodge]

worth it then

I thought 121 refineries was bad....

now I gotta place 224 constructors x-x

[sharp sentinel]

This is going to be my most ambitious large factory yet, I think. It helps my others aren't large so much as tall. I did some really wild stuff like that four floor 3x3 one.

[bitter lodge]

that is my struggle right now as well

Like I wanted to go with the method of keep like machines on same floor. It has gotten much larger than I expected.

[tall blaze]

yall put all of your electricity producers into one pole/tower?

[sharp sentinel]

I had one where every time I had to make a new part the factory gained another floor.

[bitter lodge]

Following that logic, my factory would be 14 floors

[bitter lodge]

Kind of?

but power priority switch set up is a good thing to have

[sharp sentinel]

Who the heck is building foundations vertically?

[tall blaze]

wdym

[loud leaf]

how do i make trucks turn around at truck stations when making their path

[bitter lodge]

Me-

all the time. like every factory

[hard ivy]

... record it?

[bitter lodge]

Like if you got a factory making power. I have all of its power generation go to one pole at the very end. Then connect that pole to my entire power system

so if I wanted to do priority power. I could also make it so if I cut power to that factory specifically, only that factory would shut down

[tall blaze]

couldnt you just cut the wire though

between the factory you want to stop using and the pole

[bitter lodge]

that is what the power switch is for

[fathom shuttle]

The last dimensional storage research, how much does it cost in Mercer spheres?

[bitter lodge]

do that same idea with factories. So if you need to cut power to prevent losing power from being generated. turn off your iron factory

[bitter lodge]

36 or 32

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch MAM

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=MAM

[tall blaze]

ohh i get what you mean

[bitter lodge]

23

[sharp sentinel]

Dang, ran out of concrete.

[fathom shuttle]

I’ll need 23 more Mercer spheres to finish the research tree

[hollow vector]

huh
how

automate more and put more ddus

[sharp sentinel]

Already doing that. Upload speed can't keep up with me.

#screenshots message

But dang is it purdy.

[pliant prawn]

@mods, in screenshots, mind taking down the hate symbol? TIA?

[wild kindle]

can you get a higher max height with the jetpack by using packaged fuel instead of solid biofuel

[fathom shuttle]

Wdym that’s not a hate symbol

[fathom shuttle]

Nope, ladders

[pliant prawn]

to a nazi, probs not

[fathom shuttle]

That’s a Buddhist symbol of peace

[stone fern]

3 days without playing satisfactory, please send help

[fathom shuttle]

Educate yourself bro, no need to smear foreign cultures and spread bigotry

[pliant prawn]

with three lines it is.

[wild kindle]

ok ty

[fathom shuttle]

3 uploaders should give you 810/min, with 5 stacks inventory I think that will be plenty of concrete

[sharp sentinel]

Just realised it's because I have a single location making it, and have never put any sort of backup in it. So I'm literally waiting for it to refill the DD.

[wet dock]

When using a tractor is it recommended to use roads?

like foundations i mean

[pliant prawn]

its not neccesary, but it can make life easier

*kinda lol

[wet dock]

btw should i use tractor now or wait for train what would you do?

[pliant prawn]

its really up to you, playing with the tractors is quite fun. Trains are just very quick to come next so it's kinda hard to tell. Whatcha buildin?

[wet dock]

i just have to walk a bit for my rotors and modular frames and would like to get it closer to my base

[pliant prawn]

gotcha. As a rough rule for me, if its in between two biomes, Tractor/truck

if its in the next biome over, Train

and if its two biomes over and small or advaced, Drone

[wet dock]

im confused it seems like drone and train are used in the same spots?

[pliant prawn]

bulk vs refined. Ill ship tons of material over on a train, but when I'm only getting back like say 20 cooling sysyems, thats a drone. My train works more like a raw resource bus

load it up with ingots and stuff

[wet dock]

i see

in that case ill just use a tractor as it is close but just far enough for it to be annoying

[pliant prawn]

just a guess, but a tractor for what your saying you want would work quite nice, and they are a bit interesting to learn

sounds good, happy building

[wet dock]

thanks

[sharp sentinel]

So turns out, the node I had supplying my DD with concrete was impure and so even with the mk2 it was only producing 90 limestone at a time, and so the constructor wasn't producing but like 10 at a time so it had actually never reached the 2,000 limit my DD currently has.

I love being 80 hours into this save and only just figuring this out.

[wet dock]

btw theres no way to automate the fuel i am guessing at least how far in the game i am right now where i unlocked the tractor recently

[green fiber]

just shove coal into the tractor

it runs on basically anything

[pliant prawn]

the tractors take all kinds of fuel! You can throw raw coal in them and they work fine. The stops will tell you and the route save will say how much fuel is used

[sterile blade]

Though hopes and dreams don't suffice, unfortunately...

[wet dock]

wait coal works? i thought it was only biofuel

[pliant prawn]

IDK man sometimes in a busy network that is all you can count on hahaha

[warped pawn]

updating drivers fucked up my graphics bru

[sharp sentinel]

Kinda sucks ADA calls me out every time I kill a Land Whale. I have to do it, they're always stuck on some part of my factory and will starve anyway.

[pliant prawn]

sure does! All the way up to I think nuclear fuel rods? Check the wiki. Fuel just affects performance

[wet dock]

oh ok

[sterile blade]

They feed on your annoyance. They won't starve

[sterile blade]

Even color cartridges can work!
Oh, wait...

[wet juniper]

anyone know if Mk.2 Belts are going slower than 120per min?

[sharp sentinel]

Nothing beat the one that stood for literal hours and hours on top of one of my hypertubes, and was actually causing it to interact weird, but when I smacked it just walked off and apparently could have the entire time.

[hard ivy]

it shouldn't

[wet juniper]

im legit being idle with 120 coming onto the build and into a machine but it doest keep up with the 120per min it says i need

[pliant prawn]

good riddance to those silly things lmao. My ex insisted I not harvest flowers lol

[cosmic nest]

anybody have any luck with satisfactory modeler on steam

just made my first 10 versatile frame/per min factory in my first save, not very efficient or expandable though

so just made a 15 per min one with room to grow/overclock etc on modeler now that i have somewhat of an idea but it wont load my numbers

[bitter lodge]

what is the recipe?

[wet juniper]

ignore me im dumb haha.

[fallen violet]

is ionised fuel a meme?

[hard ivy]

it's a good jetpack fuel

and is a sink for shards

but that's about it

[undone yarrow]

For power generation? yeah

[bitter lodge]

I love logistics floor and being able to hide my mess
but I blame devs for letting me be able to clip through things and turn my at first clean/organized logistic floor into a "fuck it idc, I want this to work floor" and then when you go back :> you are lost as hell

[burnt ferry]

Just build a small hut with a building system that doesn’t allow clipping and you know it’s a benefit to be able to clip

[white dawn]

I occasionally wonder about a situation where you're assiduously using Dark Matter Trap to handle your DMR, if Ionized would be worth it as a "sink" for any excess crystals you already have

[bitter lodge]

a small hut!?

[white dawn]

(Thinking of the Dark-Ion Fuel recipe specifically.) If you consider the crystals as "free" then I think Ionized ends up netting you some more power than the input Rocket Fuel would

[bitter lodge]

I got an entire floor that is like 50x50 of just belts running around every which way. took me 5 minutes to just track one belt I made like an hour ago and forgot about it

[burnt ferry]

A small something. Point is whenever clipping isn’t allowed the possibilities to customize builds is very little

[white dawn]

Obviously that's predicated on you not having anything better you wanted to do with the crystals, of course

[bitter lodge]

true-

[undone yarrow]

Trap gives twice as many crystals per residue at the same cost in diamond (though decent power cost increase)

[bitter lodge]

I do like that we can clip...and I know its my own fault for this belt maze hell. but I don't want to take accountability

[white dawn]

Yeah, Trap is A+ for that for sure. I'd just been thinking that if you're using Trap everywhere you process DMR, then you've probably got excess crystals which you're likely to just be sinking. In those cases it might be somewhat sensible to turn those into Ionized fuel using the alt -- since the crystals are seen as "free," that might actually work in your favor

Though even then it's not much more power than you'd get out of the input Rocket Fuel

[burnt ferry]

You could be the CEO of a software company

[hard ivy]

Or you could do crystallization to not unnecessarily use time crystals

[undone yarrow]

Ballistic Warp Drives need stupid amounts of crystals

problem with dark ion is it's a powerloss outright because Rocket fuel is 2 units per packaged

[bitter lodge]

SMMMHHH

[low vigil]

guys

i have a gt 1030

and satis is still playable

like 20 fps if u find that playable

[burnt ferry]

1030? From aliexpress?

[low vigil]

no.

[burnt ferry]

GDX 1030

[low vigil]

i have intel xe graphics which in benchmarks performs the same as the 1030, so i js say 1030 bc its more well known

[white dawn]

Sure, though if you go full Crystalization you're likely to need to make up the DMC difference with SAM, and I'd rather spend coal/oil on Time Crystals. I tend to view TCs as essentially free; plenty of ways to make those

[low vigil]

it performs like a laptop gtx 1050 if that helps

[hard ivy]

I played for 100 hours on 15-25 FPS. You get used to it

[burnt ferry]

I think the intel performs much better per dollar in that segment

As far as I recall

[low vigil]

im on a laptop

[undone yarrow]

Actually... is Trap outright better than default...

A Time Crystal has a power cost of 41.67 MW/min where as base DM Crystals are 33.33?MW/m so yeah... not straight upgrade per raw MW but not that far apart being only 8.33mw more if I didnt do a dumb

[tropic plover]

With regards to blue prints.
If I make them in one playthrough, are they available if I start another or would I need to remake them for each new game?

[bitter lodge]

you transfer between saves

[low vigil]

yh it feels normal after awhile

[burnt ferry]

Yeah those graphics units really aren’t that bad.

[hard ivy]

You use a mix of trap and crystallization and you use up all your DMR to make exactly how many DMCs you need

[bitter lodge]

%localappdata%\factorygame\saved\

something like that is the file route

[burnt ferry]

My first laptop had a core 2 duo. Had great graphics

[white dawn]

Right, I more or less did the same on my playthrough. :D

[low vigil]

they are 💀 u js get used to it bc u dont need too manu fps in satis

[white dawn]

I'm just hypothesizing about a setup where you've gone full Trap, so you'd likely have the excess crystals

[burnt ferry]

I mean they’re not meant for gaming.

[low vigil]

yh

[hard ivy]

They are terrible value unless you get one for very cheap

[white dawn]

If you prioritize saving SAM that might be more attractive

[burnt ferry]

Laptop hardware

Not desktop

[white dawn]

Basically I'm just trying to find a rationalization path to a situation where it wouldn't be entirely silly to use Ionized Fuel for power. :D

[hard ivy]

A mobile 1030 doesn't exist

[white dawn]

Not necessarily recommending said path to anyone, but I think given that specific set of circumstances it wouldn't be the worst idea in the world

[burnt ferry]

were not talking about 1030 though

bro used it as synonym

[hard ivy]

^

[burnt ferry]

yes

[undone yarrow]

My short glancing and such points to the best use for those is in warp drives

I thiiiiink base Ionized is fine, it's more just a "not worth the effort" relative to how much effort you put in to making everything vs what you get out

[burnt ferry]

read further @hard ivy

[burnt ferry]

@hard ivy

[white dawn]

The vanilla Ionized recipe is net power negative compared to the power output you could get by just burning the Rocket Fuel; I'm not sure there's a reasonable case to be made for the vanilla recipe (in terms of power generation, anyway). (Or at least that's what my memory tells me; I admit I haven't actually looked at numbers in some time)

[hard ivy]

Ah, missed that

[burnt ferry]

i know

👹

[hard ivy]

Dark ion is even worse

[white dawn]

Right, hence the mental gymnastics to introduce a situation where you've got excess Dark Matter Crystals which you could think of as "free"

I think if you consider the DMCs free, then you'd end up net-power-positive from the RF

[reef basin]

not in terms of power generation, but it's a shard sink

[white dawn]

Though maybe I'm wrong about that. :D

[undone yarrow]

Yeah, Dark Ion's crystals aren't the problem it's that you're turning 24 rocket fuel into 10 ionized

as opposed to the 1:1 of vanilla

[hard ivy]

I don't think you should perform mental gymnastics to justify terrible game design

[burnt ferry]

diablo 4s slot machines in disguise are terrible game design

[white dawn]

Heh, I'm not trying to justify anything, just having some fun coming up with a way that burning Ionized for fuel isn't a silly idea

[undone yarrow]

If Dark Ion was 12:10 it might work out, but Dark Ion is solely for jetpack fuel until it gets adjusted

[burnt ferry]

in this game are flaws only 😂

[white dawn]

(Also I don't particularly care that Ionized is awful for power; I honestly don't mind that its primary usecase is jetpack fuel and shard sinks)

[burnt ferry]

does it last longer than bio fuel?

in the jetpack

[white dawn]

I don't know if it's longer than biofuel, but it's extremely long, with really great thrust

Pretty much the best parts of LBF + RF, IMO

I think that RF technically has a faster upward thrust? But Ionized is still incredible

[hard ivy]

last, no. but due to much higher thrust, you can hover for longer

[white dawn]

Immediately became my favorite jetpack fuel once I'd started automating it

[burnt ferry]

i can only compare to normal fuel but that just stinks for jetpack

[undone yarrow]

Biofuel lasts longer but Ionized's other numbers compensate so that it runs circles around Bio

[burnt ferry]

you mean i can spam space bar less?

makes sense

[hard ivy]

i'd say more if you want to stay level

[burnt ferry]

i mean like one thrust of the ion fuel will push me farther, hence to travel the same way, i need to thrust less (thrust = press space bar)

wait.. i think i can buy that fuel in the awesome shop.. could just try it

[hard ivy]

I don't remember how fuel affects horizontal movement. the wiki mostly has concrete data for vertical movement

[white dawn]

I actually found Rocket Fuel to be quite good for horizontal movement as well, thanks to the thrust

[barren lily]

Math isn't mathing
Brain isn't braining
So far so good, rafinery is growing, first 90 rafineries standing, only 97 more to go

[viral tendon]

I used my jetpack exactly when game autosaved and i went into space, peak

[burnt ferry]

well.. there is no horizontal movement.. you run to have momenntum, then you jump and you will 'fly' with the momentum from the beginning

[white dawn]

Shorter total thrust time, but it was nearly always sufficient for my uses

[burnt ferry]

now by spamming space bar slightly you can maintain height to basically 'fly' as long as the fuel lasts

[barren lily]

Guys quick question

[burnt ferry]

but effectively this means its vertical movement

[low vigil]

1050 does

[burnt ferry]

like a helicopter, no? isnt a helicopter also using its vertical updrift, to go horizontal?

[viral tendon]

Idk i use hoverpack it's peak

[burnt ferry]

same principle

[barren lily]

How the fuck am i suposed to build 864 fuel gens and 84 coal ones?

[burnt ferry]

hrhr

alternate recipes + shards + slopes

and accept high numbers 😂

[high dust]

should i continue my save from last year, or start fresh with the new update?

[midnight mulch]

wait power can be sent through monorails?

[hard ivy]

that's why you need to press faster when using ionized fuel if you want to stay level. faster acceleration means more vertical movement for the same duration of space hold

[barren lily]

Start new one

[burnt ferry]

even duorails

[midnight mulch]

oh shit thats making my life way way easier

[burnt ferry]

i think by faster you mean the same as I do

at least your explanation suggests that

[barren lily]

It produces ≈225Gw power 😭

[burnt ferry]

ah.. you mean 'shorter' right? whereas i meant not as often

thats why i was confused.. horizontal movement doesnt work at all by holding space bar.. that would drain by far too fast, regardless of the fuel

you have to gently tap it every once in a while only for a very short moment anyways

[white dawn]

If you don't already plan to overclock your fuel gens, I'd highly recommend that -- will cut 864 down to 346, at least. And you can blueprint the gens (including their stored shards) pretty easily; if you don't mind some very tight piping you can fit 4x fuel gens in a 5x5 blueprinter

The other option is to Not Build That Much Fuel Power. I always dislike fuel-gen spam. (I prefer Nuclear Power Plant spam. :D)

[barren lily]

Then what am i suposed to do with 3600 rocket fuel?

[white dawn]

Each NPP is 10x Fuel Gens. They're bigger, and "expensive" (for whatever "expensive" means in a game with infinite resources) but if I'm building power at scale I'll nearly always prefer nuclear

[white dawn]

Heh, you're the one who made that much, etc. :D This is your own albatross to carry!

[barren lily]

I didint unlocked nuclear yet

[burnt ferry]

expensive refers to the amount per time you can obtain/produce

but youre right, it makes no sense in that context

[viral tendon]

Not infinite actually

[white dawn]

Let it be a lesson to only build what you actually need instead of arbitrarily building some number "for the future." :)

[burnt ferry]

it easier though to think in number of saturated belts/pipes

than in specific production lines

[white dawn]

"Infinite" as in "this factory will produce X literally forever, so I can literally never run out so long as I'm patient."

[barren lily]

Im the type of guy who builds factory that process all bauxite from the map

[viral tendon]

Fair enough

[white dawn]

I've basically never built factories around "saturated belts/pipes," so I guess I wouldn't know. :)

I don't think I've ever built a factory that wasn't targetting some specific rate of production

I'm not bothered if a belt isn't full, or if a node isn't being fully utilized

[burnt ferry]

i had this discussion before 😂 give up, 'infinite' in this community cant exist

because you cant divide by 0

[white dawn]

There's more resources on the map than practically anyone's ever gonna need; not worth trying to max things out locally IMO

[burnt ferry]

infinite in this community would be infinity divided by zero time

neither infintiy nor zero is allowed in that equation

[viral tendon]

So kyo297 doesn't exists huh?

[white dawn]

(Not trying to dissuade anyone from building based on "full belts" or whatever, of course -- you do you.)

[burnt ferry]

havent understood it that way. all good mate

[viral tendon]

I mean techically nodes are really infnite

[white dawn]

Edge cases should be covered in my usual "nearly/practically" qualifiers. :) You have to really try to exhaust resources in this game, with the possible exception of SAM

[burnt ferry]

in fact staturating belts snt necessarily about overproductio in the first place, so maybe it doesnt een apply @white dawn 😂

[viral tendon]

If you have enough time you can get as much as you want or need

[viral tendon]

What about sam

[burnt ferry]

yes 😂 see thats the point when someone says the mats are infinite 😂

you are NOT talking about number of available mats

you are talking about that per time.. which cant mathematically be infinite

[viral tendon]

There's nothing infinite i think

Everything got a limit

[burnt ferry]

yes... all resources are 😂

[viral tendon]

Nodes aren't infinite because at some time the game will be shutdown

But if someone got a copy

[burnt ferry]

lul?

[viral tendon]

Planet will fucking explode

[burnt ferry]

the game will shutdown becaues the node went empty?

bruh... you have no reason for this now 😂

[barren lily]

Ficsit will fucking nuke it

[viral tendon]

No i mean like, nodes can't be infinite because the game will stop existing some time

[white dawn]

There's a few production lines which can really gobble up SAM. IMO it's about the only resource which someone could accidentally end up exhausting (by which I mean working on a project which doesn't feel like a megaproject)

[viral tendon]

How tf can you make sam end

I need further explanation

[barren lily]

It's limited, not so many around the map

I guess he means that

[white dawn]

I don't mean that the nodes will "run out," just that you can end up with factories which consume the max extraction rate for the map

[viral tendon]

Just wait some time they will start worknig some day

Techinally you can run out of anything

If you think of it that way

[white dawn]

Which you can do with other materials too, of course, but IMO SAM is the only one where it might be possible to do so without meaning to

If you decide "I'm gonna do Max HMF" or "Max Uranium" or something then you could very well run out of other things too, bit that's like a concerted effort to Do That

Whereas SAM could sort of happen by accident

(Although if you throw in slooping RSAM then I'm not sure my hypothesis holds)

[viral tendon]

I mean ther's not a lot of sam and uranium

I believe you can do that with uranium to on accident

[glass relic]

hey guys guess who has ideas for satisfactory

[barren lily]

Wdym

[white dawn]

Go ahead and try "max uranium" and come back to tell me that it's not a megaproject. :)

[viral tendon]

Zipline is so fun but it's lowkey mid

[west jackal]

man unless youre trying to do a mega project one uranium node is PLENTY

[viral tendon]

It's fun concept but so friking useless

[white dawn]

Goals like " I'm going to use all the X on the map" are in a different class of project, IMO

[west jackal]

my last save it took dozens of hours to cleanly setup 1 IMPURE uranium at 250% on a mk3 miner

[glass relic]

do anyone want to hear my ideas for satisfactory?

[west jackal]

is the only use for uranium nuclear power? or is it used in any other recipes

[hard ivy]

except uranium, SAM and bauxite. those are actually possible to use up entirely within a few hundred hours

[mystic oriole]

same, took me about a month of play.

[hard ivy]

and nuke nobelisks

[west jackal]

are nuke nobelisks worth making? seems dangerous lol

my lizzard doggo brought me a couple lol

[wet dock]

what does the blue mean on the light thingy on assemblers i thought it could only be red yellow or green (it might be white its hard to tell)

[fossil plume]

Not at all, they are barely usable, there are multiple issues that were reported immediatelly after they appeared first in the experimental but they still were released without getting these issues fixed
https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1l84bj6/vertical_splitters_mergers_have_multiple_issues/

[hard ivy]

the strongest explosive in the game. But I suggest staying far away when detonating. and don't approach for a while unless you have a hazmat suit

[barren lily]

Blue??? HOW

[wet dock]

i think its white

[hard ivy]

overclocked

[wet dock]

oh ok

[west jackal]

well, makes sense i mean it is a nuke. but it seems like its not worth using them as they would pose a significant hazard to myself 😛

[hard ivy]

maybe check your monitor's color settings or something if it's very blue. it's supposed to be almost white iirc

[wet dock]

it isnt it is just slight a very very slight blue

[barren lily]

Maybe some kind of visual bug or something

[wet dock]

i heard that the color white looks blue on camera and they usually use a different white on dresses etc idk if this is the same

[hard ivy]

it's very slightly blue on both of my screens. So I can only assume it's not supposed to be perfectly white. other white things don't have a blue hue

[barren lily]

Maybe, idk

[barren lily]

Okay, that makes sense

[west jackal]

bruh epic just said 95% of people play satisfactory to relax

i guess none of those 95% have made it to fluids

[fathom shuttle]

I forgot summer sale started

[hard ivy]

as I say, fluid issues are skill issues

[fathom shuttle]

What are you guys grabbing

[green fiber]

you can relax and not have skill isues

[west jackal]

shh, i know. and i know how to fix them now, but they are a pain

i wish i had it on steam bc im tired of this cloud syncing shit, its been syncing for 10 minutes now

[mortal ginkgo]

you are trying to be too efficient in a game that aint really asking for it.

[green fiber]

just turn clouds off

[wet dock]

why even use epic?

[mortal ginkgo]

someone with zero idea can just put 8 water extractor for 8 coal gens and still be happy

[west jackal]

because i bought it on epic years before it was on steam

[green fiber]

steam clouds are also bullshit
i dont use any clouds

[west jackal]

year*

[barren lily]

Close epic and open it again (close it in task manager)

[wet dock]

i would have waited for it to be released on steam, epic sucks imo

[west jackal]

i didnt know if it was ever releasing on steam when i bought it 6 years ago...

[barren lily]

I bought it on epic and never had any problems

[green fiber]

the only job epic has for me is to open satisfactory.
thats it. I guess the one bonus is it has experimental as a seperate install

[barren lily]

Where?

[wet dock]

well you might not have problems but i dont like epic thats all

[west jackal]

yeah, sometimes epic does free games that are good. but the only game ive ever bought on here is sati

[fathom shuttle]

Steam

[barren lily]

Btw they finaly fixed downloading and now it works just fine like on steam

[west jackal]

ive got a lot of games on epic that they gave away, but i wont buy anything on here

[barren lily]

Then I need to check is bf3 on sale

[wet dock]

i still dont like epic idrk what it is i just dont like them, i had reasons before but i forgot them lol

[west jackal]

if they let us link steam/epic and launch epic games through steam launcher id 100% do that

[fathom shuttle]

Bf3?

[austere valve]

Boyfriends 3

[barren lily]

Battlefield 3 (I wish it was BATTLEFRONT 3)

Okay it is on sale

[west jackal]

unfortunately i doubt bf3 is ever coming 😦 i wish. it would be one of the only games i buy at full price

[fathom shuttle]

I might grab cyberpunk, Factorio, hollow night and idk

[west jackal]

that and the next jedi game

[austere valve]

There is a battlefront on sale, I was considering buying it but then I saw I'd have to install Origin

[stark solar]

I'm mostly hoping for Endless Space 3 someday

[west jackal]

ye.. i have origin, it sucks more than epic

[mystic oriole]

I think Disney is alergic to money, they won't make that.

[fathom shuttle]

Battlefront is the Star Wars games right

[west jackal]

disney? battlefront is made by DIce

[barren lily]

Yep

[graceful plinth]

how does this loop into itself??

nvm I cant post picture here

[barren lily]

Im still waiting for titanfall 3 and battlefront 3 but i guess it will never happen

[austere valve]

Post it on #screenshots or better yet make a thread in #1038092680493801533

[graceful plinth]

#1387908545823113276

[stark solar]

Bwana: Do not loop the loop organ

[graceful plinth]

means?

[stark solar]

Bwana: It's a joke; that's something from one of the mercer sphere conversations

[graceful plinth]

ah

[mystic oriole]

it's once you get the Alien Power Augmenter

[fathom shuttle]

I need 26 more Mercer spheres 😭

[stark solar]

Ah, that's a lot.

[austere valve]

There is never enough

[stark solar]

Get your scanner ready and head out on an adventure!

[bitter lodge]

I may be over thinking this.
I got enough belt speed to fill 19.5 machines. but got to fill 5 more. At the end of the 19 machine. Just a normal splitter into a merger (Adding in the additional belt into that merger) should work to manifold everything?

[fathom shuttle]

I’ll probably get 60 just so I never have to go out on a hunt again

[mystic oriole]

going on a trip, in our favorite rocket ship

[fathom shuttle]

Use a smart splitter at the end

[bitter lodge]

and overflow?

send overflow into the merger?

[fathom shuttle]

Yea overflow going into the merger

[bitter lodge]

OH wait ya. Cause I don't want to split normally cause then it will try to feed all 25 with the one 780 belt

:> thankies

[west jackal]

where do priority mergers unlock

[barren lily]

MAM

[fathom shuttle]

But you still need 2 belts, I’d just overclock one machine to 150% and connect the other separately

[barren lily]

In caterium

Ofc if im right

[west jackal]

oh does it take HSC?

[bitter lodge]

The second belt will be enough to fill up the last 5 :)

[hard ivy]

quartz, actually iirc

[barren lily]

Right, dementia hits hard

[bitter lodge]

or will it. idk yet. still doing math

[west jackal]

well shoot i guess i need to setup quartz automation

[stark solar]

May the quartz/schwartz be with you!

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch priority+merger

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=priority+merger

[west jackal]

i love spaceballs

[barren lily]

Takes what?

[viral tendon]

Finally made my radio control unit production, wasn't as big as supercomputer one, but it's working

[west jackal]

high speed connector

im automating them right now

[barren lily]

I think it does

BUT IT'S ONLY I THINK

[fathom shuttle]

How much quartz?

[viral tendon]

Wha=t

[fathom shuttle]

How much quartz are you feeding it

[barren lily]

Allat

[viral tendon]

I mean i use 4 construcorotrs for quartz crystal and i'm making more than enough

That's for 2 manufacturers for crystall onyocrq

[barren lily]

Fair enough

[viral tendon]

I have 2 fully overclocked manufactrures for 5 crystal oscillators per minute

ONe of them splits into storage and into radio control unit

[barren lily]

Btw i need to build oscillators factory

[viral tendon]

With somersloops i make 5 rcu per minute

[viral tendon]

It's like very easy if you find a good spot

I can tell you where i do it

There's a lot of pure things

[barren lily]

Where

[viral tendon]

Well quartz node is 612 1955

[barren lily]

Biome?

[viral tendon]

Some kind of purple forest

[barren lily]

Okay i think I know where it is

Is is close to blue crater?

[viral tendon]

I have no idea what that is

Just use coordinates

There's a little lake

[barren lily]

Big mushrooms and blue everything

[viral tendon]

That has antenas of some sort

[viral tendon]

Mushrroms and purple leaves trees

[barren lily]

I think i have quartz crystals factory there

[viral tendon]

There are some iron and copper nodes north east

And even futher 2 pure oil nodes nea rwater

[fathom shuttle]

It’s pretty close to the blue crater

[lost wagon]

is there any easy way to take a blueprint and change all their parts at once, for example a blueprint that uses all Mk4, I want to change all of the Mk4 things to Mk3, or the only way is manual replace?

[fathom shuttle]

Nope, do it manually

[viral tendon]

And close to that are bauxite coal

A lot of things needed for crystal osciliarotrs and radio control unit

[viral tendon]

U might want to sit down for this one

[barren lily]

Yep, close to blue crater

[fathom shuttle]

There is a pure node crystal quartz btw

[barren lily]

I know

[viral tendon]

There are a lot of pure things actually

[barren lily]

I produce crystals there

[viral tendon]

Use them for crystal thingy

Also i fonud out how fucking op turbo fuel is

[barren lily]

And I have computer factory in blue crater that produces 60 computers per minute

[barren lily]

Rocket fuel even better

[viral tendon]

48 m^2 /m can power up 2 fully overclocked fuel powered gens

And 1 130% ish powered gen

[viral tendon]

Is it unlockable through mam?

[hard ivy]

it's really not. more oil efficiency and that's it

[viral tendon]

I will consider unlocking that

[fathom shuttle]

Ye, needs coal and sulfur tho

[barren lily]

But it costs allat more

[viral tendon]

Yeah

It needs just 60 hor and it can power up a lot of things

[maiden notch]

Turbo fuel is great

[viral tendon]

Not a lot tho, 2 250% gens and one 130ish%

It's genuinely very good

[maiden notch]

Then you get to Rocket fuel

[viral tendon]

I will be doing nuclear power soon

So ig i won't need rocket fuel

[barren lily]

When you have alt recipie called Rocket fuel nitro you need 50 coal 100 fuel 100 sulfur and 75 nitrogen = 150 Rocket fuel

And one fuel gen at 100% uses 4.167l per minute

[hard ivy]

so can fuel? 60 HOR is 120 Fuel, which is 1500 MW

[fathom shuttle]

Rocket fuel needs to be packaged before the generator consume it. I think

[barren lily]

Nope

[viral tendon]

60hor/m is 40 oil/m

[barren lily]

Gens have only fluid input

[viral tendon]

Unless you got alt recipe

Or whatever could make tht possible

Not oil, fuel, sorry

[barren lily]

Best option is HOR alt recipie and then making fuel out of it

[hard ivy]

diluted (packaged) fuel

[viral tendon]

Delitued fuel ig

I got turbo blend fuel alt recipe is it good

I think it's not

[hard ivy]

depends
imo only as an intermediate to rocket

[viral tendon]

Wow, uranium fuel unit

Idk if it's worth it since it uses fuckass crystal oscilitrator

[barren lily]

The best one is made in blender and is called Rocket fuel nitro
-# it's the best in my opinion

[hard ivy]

more rods per cell

[viral tendon]

I will just stick with basic one ig

Time to get advanced aluminium production then go to sleep and if fail continue playing satisfactory until morning making nuclear power plant

[west jackal]

question for people lurking, if you are using conveyors to bring resources into factory, either not far enough to warrant a train, or before you unlock trains. Do you build a foundation or bridge to the node? or do you just run the conveyor on the ground? i find the ground doesnt look great but its a lot of work for one conveyor to build a bridge?

[last nova]

Is there any server hosting sites that run 1.1 ?

[lethal ocean]

Howdy folks

[viral tendon]

I wish they made a setting which adds one in a billion chance per second for nuclear power plant to explode like in chernobyl

And whole world got constant radiation everywhere

[barren lily]

Dreams

[west jackal]

bruh why would you want thaat

[viral tendon]

Quite possibl with mods

[tall blaze]

no thanks

[viral tendon]

Because it's fun

And it's a settings, you can turn it on or off

Whether you're a gambler

Or not normal person

[barren lily]

Foundations or sone kind of blueprint that makes them hang on some pillars

[tall blaze]

Its not gambling tho yo

[viral tendon]

Why>

[tall blaze]

gambling is putting something at risk for a chance to get something in return

[viral tendon]

The return is your safe file is not doomed

[tall blaze]

or... just turn off the setting

not really gambling yo

[viral tendon]

You will get happenis

[tall blaze]

right right

[viral tendon]

Clash royale store just updated do you think there will be any good emotes or cards in shop

[barren lily]

Idk

7530 trophies and I dont play anymore cuz this game when you are f2p sucks

[tropic plover]

So, if I want a train that will collect different resources on its route and then deliver all to a final destination, I can use empty platforms and only have a freight platform to match where the specific car would be in the train right?
IE: 6 carriages in the train, 1 and 2 are already full, next station needs a station, 2 blanks and then the third spot is that specific freight cars position?

[fathom shuttle]

If you expect to build on it in the future, just place down a 4m concrete foundation and follow where you wanna go

Doesn’t take that long

[fathom shuttle]

You can set the freight station to unload and load yourself

[bitter lodge]

@west jackal #screenshots bridge :)

but that is also like 10 belts on it

[tropic plover]

I know I can set it to load and unload.
What I am asking is if I want the train to pick up different resources at different stops and then drop them all off at the same final stop

[vital elk]

In the Time Table you can choose which items to load or unload at each station

[fathom shuttle]

Match the cars to the station, and edit the time table for each station

[tropic plover]

Oh, so the train will position itself correctly to match?
So I can have 6 freight cars but only 1 freight platform and the train will make sure it positions itself so an empty car will be filled?

[fathom shuttle]

Yea

[white dawn]

Well -- the freight platform you put in has to be in the same "position" as the freight car is, compared to the engine

If you have a train that's six cars long and you only want a station to process the 5th one, you'd need four Empty Platforms after the train station, and put the freight platform in that 5th slot

(and probably have another Empty Platform afterwards just so the train doesn't stick out)

[tropic plover]

Thats what I thought but the guys are saying it doesnt matter, I can just have single platforms at each station and the train will auto position the cars to load empty ones

[white dawn]

No, that's false. The engine will dock right at the Train Station itself, and only the cars which are lined up with platforms will do anything

You can easily test for yourself, of course -- I recommend having an alternate save with all the Advanced Game Settings "cheat" settings on; will let you prototype stuff real quickly and see how it works. Fly mode, no build cost, no power, everything unlocked, etc

Spam some 6x6 foundation blueprints and you've got yourself a nice testbed. :)

[tropic plover]

Still on my first play through, there are no advanced settings?
Im just battling with trains at the moment, the block and path signals dont do what I hope so I am manually driving most of my trains

[white dawn]

When you start a new game from the main menu, you can choose to enable "Advanced Game Settings," which gives you all sorts of options, some of which are "cheaty." Achievements are disabled while AGS is on, and you can't disable AGS once you've turned it on for a save

(You can also enable AGS as you load any game, but then if you save the game with AGS enabled, that save is AGS-enabled forever)

Having an alternate save where you have AGS enabled, with all those cheaty options, gives you a great testbed for building stuff without having to worry about doing it in your "real" world

[stark solar]

Interesting challenge idea: Never deconstruct anything you built (it is ok to deconstruct wrecks as you didn't build them)

[tropic plover]

That would be a mess, lol.
The number of times I placed a building back to front in a line of them is crazy

[white dawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX6bXqzinI0 (Jace + Snutt clip vid; "No Dismantle Percent")

Limestone -> Smelter is a bit of a meme. :P

I wonder if there's a stream clip from the actual event rather than just Jace showing it off

[finite latch]

I wanna try a run with only biofuels.. you can use fuel gens if its biofuel.. but no burning coal or oil.. I always skip bioburners and just rush coal power.. wanna see how the opposite fairs

[undone yarrow]

That sounds... painful

And like your chainsaw will see a lot of use

[leaden turret]

do it without the chainsaw

[fathom shuttle]

If he unlocks sloops early he can do it

[hard ivy]

xeno basher :)

[stark solar]

I've never made a chainsaw; they don't destroy structures you build, do they?

[white dawn]

Correct, just foliage (they also can't be used against mobs of any sort)

[fathom shuttle]

Gather 200 animal remains for 1.2m solid biofuel

[stark solar]

I've always just used nobelisks to clear area

[fathom shuttle]

I think that’s enough for the rest of the game xD

[white dawn]

Don't get all that tasty biomass that way, though. :)

[stark solar]

I usually don't need a lot of biomass by that point in the game

once I convert to coal, biomass is just a portable power source fuel for me

[finite latch]

this is what I am thinking

[white dawn]

Those biomass, solid biofuel, packaged liquid biofuel, and gas nobelisk ISCs aren't gonna fill themselves!

[stark solar]

Ah, once I unlock it only rocket fuel goes in my jetpack

[white dawn]

But the ISCs must fill!

[vapid lintel]

Hi guys, does anyone know where the Conveyor Throughput Monitor is? I can't find it in the Awesome shop

[stark solar]

ISCs?

[white dawn]

And yeah, same re: RF. When I'm still at LBF/TF, I tend to switch back and forth between those, as the situation warrants, but RF tends to do well enough at everything for me

[white dawn]

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