satisfactory

[spiral dew]

does anyone use bidirectional train stations but unidirectional (2) regular railways? something like this #screenshots message - i didn't leave enough space to build a proper outgoing rail

[sharp sentinel]

I can't snap hypertube junctions to a hypertube. This makes me sad.

[next umbra]

Anyone else have a doggo milking parlor?

[fathom shuttle]

Are you sure you connected it to the correct line

[winter bloom]

"Remove all" button in crate doesn't work.

[vestal mica]

in very late game, || you can craft the power shards instead of needing slugs ||

[solemn vale]

You gotta use a path signal going in, and a block signal directly after the junction. Same for the intersection between the outbound rail and the mainline

[heady radish]

currently doing alternates (got iron wire as my first but my second has alternate Iron Alloy and Alternate fused Wire, should I take either or reroll or just leave it in my library? I'm barely into this game relatively (about to setup steel production))

[loud vault]

i have no idea about any of it, but i will store the info for that time. i still have no idea what slooping is and i keep thinking its about a skiff. i know its not😆 . ive only just found a yellow slug and i know where a blue one is relative to where i set up

[next umbra]

I leave stuff I don’t want in the library

[vestal mica]

if you haven't unlocked the M.A.M. you will shortly (it's part of tier 1). It lets you research technologies and utilities based off stuff you find in the world. Slugs are one of the things you can research

[loud vault]

ive seen people say to leave the ones you dont want in archive, you can always claim later or reroll, and that leaves the pool smaller and better chance for what you want? something like that i think

[gentle jacinth]

yes

[loud vault]

do we get solar power at somepoint?

[gentle jacinth]

i think you can get a mod for that

[vestal mica]

no. there are mods that have solar

[gentle jacinth]

let me check

[vestal mica]

refined power is pretty popular

[spiral dew]

fuel power is so OP i don't know if ill do anything else

[gentle jacinth]

theres one for an "alien solar panel"

[spiral dew]

just needs a lot of space

[leaden ether]

Solar and wind were nixed early on as being basically too easy.

[gentle jacinth]

the oil nodes are so close to eachother too

might be better than nuclear but i havent checked my residue in forever

[spiral dew]

i went to the north (north west?) coast and set it up there

really haven't explored much outside of dune desert this playthrough

[gentle jacinth]

i set up my train to automatically go to my oil rig area and back to my factory incase i need to go back

[sharp sentinel]

I seem to have significantly less sloops than I thought.

[vestal mica]

although refined power makes like standard coal power setups more complicated if i remember correctly.

wouldn't recommend if it's your first playthrough

[spiral dew]

idk if i will do nuclear, probably for fun

[sharp sentinel]

Isn't it also that canonically FICSIT is into short-term solutions and so the ones that exploit the environment the most are included and not simpler, more efficient solutions?

[open tree]

Im building one.

[vestal mica]

when i played sf+ that had them, there were limits on how many you could put down. Which doesn't REALLY make sense, but prevented you from just making a giant windmill farm in the sky and never having to worry about power again

[lost wagon]

since factories are mostly spread across the map, do you just build a sink on each factory and send the overflow?

[hard ivy]

yep

[gentle jacinth]

i feel like you have to sink if you want a functional factory, so yes

im sinking all my polymer because it stopped my fuel production

[leaden ether]

Heh there is a limit on light! Don't want to suck all the energy out of the sun.

[sharp sentinel]

Driving me crazy I remember putting a sloop in something but not what, and now I have like 300 different things being made.

[vestal mica]

what do you think this is, dyson sphere project?

[gentle jacinth]

we need a pollution mechanic

[lost wagon]

for what

they already said they won't add any type of base defense

[spiral dew]

green water aesthetics

[leaden turret]

we already have flushable toilet

[spiral dew]

case closed

[leaden ether]

I think wind and solar would have worked though, they have the limitation of bveing non-constant sources like the geothermal is. That means if you use it you really kind of have to use the power storage mechanism to set up a power stable system. I think that would have been as much effort as any coal plant, especially if you needed water to cool the battery banks.

[mortal ginkgo]

You miss the point that Ficsit is about exploitation.

[leaden ether]

Wel okay 😄

[mortal ginkgo]

Lorewise ||the company is corrupted beyond salvation. It is beyond salvation and possibly fully controlled by SAM||

[sour ledge]

The manual way to find it is to go into dismantle mode and start mousing over everything. The sloop will show up in the list of returned materials (and should stick out quite a bit compared to everything else)

[leaden turret]

photovoltaic solar: free energy, css do not want
molten solar: requires at least water, so not as-free as photovoltaics

[vestal mica]

if it exists they needed some way to make it have an ongoing cost or diminishing returns

but a one time cost infinite power source is too easy

[mortal ginkgo]

it wont exist because ||SAM demands to consume by exploiting other materials.||

[sour ledge]

otherwise there's a mod for finding sloops called Somersloop Finder, or you can upload your save to a calculator and find the building(s) that are producing over 100%

[lost wagon]

we don't have steam engine do we?
Closest I think it's coal generator

[sour ledge]

i mean, the generator producing power rwith water and coal is definitely using steam, but we don't have one called a steam engine exactly

[ivory condor]

Doesn't coal generator operate via steam🤔

[lost wagon]

yea, it's steam generator, they just call it coal generator for whatever reason

only now I read the flavor text

[mortal ginkgo]

it would be confusing for a player who doesn't know what a steam generator is.

[loud vault]

probably because a generator and an engine are not the same thing.

[mortal ginkgo]

Coal Generator immediately gives the idea that it demands coal.

[gentle jacinth]

i have a massive storage of just polymer resin

[sour ledge]

actually that makes me wonder

the biofuel generator - its burning it, but with no water is it just using air to turn the turbines???

[sharp sentinel]

I STG every time I go across the map my fuel generator factory has a breakdown in the flow and my power starts to fluctuate wildly.

[loud vault]

hot air pressure , sure

[sour ledge]

ada would be ashamed at us for how inefficient that is

[gentle jacinth]

ada gets mad at everything

[mortal ginkgo]

ADA is always ashamed anyway

[sour ledge]

they shoulda given us a bucket or something to get some initial water 😂

that's not true! ADA told me i'm her most valued pioneer!

[mortal ginkgo]

however the line she says when you go from Elevator Parts 2 to 3 is cool.

[sour ledge]

she said not to tell you guys 'cause it'd be bad for morale tho but i mean, screw y'alls morale

[gentle jacinth]

she called me a monster

[mortal ginkgo]

"it can look overwhelming, but you wouldn't be here if you were not capable enough".

[loud vault]

maybe the leaves on Massage have extra moisture and that make some steam pressure as the cakes burn....

[sour ledge]

that's the voice line where she immediately starts peer pressuring us afterwords by saying how the average pioneer succeeds at saving the day isn't it 😂

[mortal ginkgo]

I think she does that in somewhere else.

I think devs knew that Tier 3 is a big deal so toned down ADA on that abit lols

[heady phoenix]

how to snap splitter/mergers onto exisitng belts?

[mortal ginkgo]

hold CTRL

[loud vault]

you should just be able to plce them right on the existing belt from what ive seen and it will make the connection

[gentle jacinth]

my fuel buffer fills up incredibly fast

[heady phoenix]

well, worked now. idk what happened before

[gentle jacinth]

even with that weird drain mechanic

i think 3 fuel eaters generate enough power

what happens when we flush pipes and buffers, does it jump empty into the ground?

[vestal mica]

it goes to the same place as the toilet

[sour ledge]

Me: Plummet to my death because of a whoopsie

Ada after I... i dunno what the lore is on respawning, hatch out of a cloning pod? Revive in some fashion: "Next time you are doing that, don't"

thanks for the protip there ada. I was totally gonna do that again.

[gentle jacinth]

ada gives the best advice always

[sour ledge]

for all of her sass, i was always kinda sad to get the last sloop message... i heard there's more now though so lookin' forward to that

[urban root]

Have you heard Elev-ADA?

[gentle jacinth]

wayyy more

[sour ledge]

are there elevator-specific lines!? i never built one 'cause.... i have a hoverpack. i never really wanted an elevator, unless it was for trains.

[spiral dew]

just built one for fun, highly recommend

[sour ledge]

noted, ill try building one once i unlock it (my 1.1 save is not very progressed and i didn't wanna hop in on the old factory...)

[spiral dew]

Think I have almost completely gotten rid of copper recipes so far

Still need for rotors

[hard ivy]

except pasta, I'm pretty sure you technically do not need any copper at all

that and pipes

[spiral dew]

caterium alts are really nice

[urban root]

Yes. the elevator has its own "ada". Its pretty funny. It "wont let you down".

[formal prawn]

got advanced steel production and wondered why I couldn't make foundry - I didn't get basic first 😢

(I got the steel for it from a crash site)

[spiral dew]

getting advanced items from crash sites is a really fun mechanic

[gentle jacinth]

what is korolev

[hard ivy]

idk you tell me

[loud vault]

Korolev was a scientist that designed space rockets

[tropic dawn]

satisfactory gets a lil boring, what do i do lol

[tropic plover]

Trains question.
Can I just have a single line and the train flips at each station on the end or must there be a loop for it to turnback on the same track?

[hard ivy]

if you put a locomotive at both ends it'll be able to move back and forth on the same track

[tropic plover]

Okay thanks, do I need 2 train stations at each end then? Spaced as far apart as the locomotives?

[hard ivy]

no, just one at the far end is enough

make sure they're facing away from the rest of the track

[tropic plover]

Cool sent a screen shot to confirm

[open tree]

Thats ok. I never had any morale to begin with

[glacial moth]

Is there a way to set a swatch to automatically be applied without changing the defaults for everything? Or do I just have to manually paint every thing I place?

[distant pulsar]

Only way is to change the default colors

[glacial moth]

unfortunate

[empty path]

since 1.1 when you copy a buildable with "scroll click" it copies also the color applied

so u can put down lets say a foundation and a wall, paint those, then copy and go crazy

[restive drum]

are there any YouTubers who makes good gameplay videos?

[glacial moth]

https://www.youtube.com/@WhatDarrenPlays I like this guys videos a lot

[fathom shuttle]

Can trains go 4m ramps

[bright magnet]

"Lets game it out" makes very good Satisfactory videos

[hard ivy]

try placing rails on them

[fathom shuttle]

I wanted to make a train ramp that I can send stuff flying at 300km/h

Shame

[white dawn]

Well, LGIO makes very good LGIO videos, at least. :D

[bright magnet]

the slide jump mechanic is so addicting that i almost had to respawn like 4 or 5 times and i almost flew out the cliff a few times 😂

[white dawn]

(Though LGIO is what introduced me to the game, so it presumably works well as advertising. :)

[bright magnet]

it was thanks to him i also got the game

[fathom shuttle]

If you slide as you hit a jump pad it sends you very far

[zenith pecan]

Lets game it out introduced me as well 🤣

[bright magnet]

last time i played was march last year and would do a slide jump on mk5 belt would send me Mach 5 and adding jetpack was insane

[undone yarrow]

Was a fluid priority junction really that easy..?

[fathom shuttle]

Pipes need a rework in this game

[restive drum]

"how to not play 101"
jk I love his videos

[restive drum]

tyry

[gentle jacinth]

seems fair remove pipeline pump thingys

[zenith pecan]

Do it now on a mk6 🙂

[hard ivy]

with ionized fuel

[minor vale]

Outside figuring out how to make it work a bit more consistently (randomly not able to push 600 through mk2 pipes without loop systems mostly) It seems fine to me.

[fathom shuttle]

Mk6 belt + sliding into a jump pad into a hypertube would probably send you to the m satisfactory sequel

[south sinew]

hypercannon can do that on its own

[fathom shuttle]

I noticed that hypertubes give more distance if you slide in them but yea true

[south sinew]

they give a lot more distance if you use them to make a cannon

[minor vale]

Bookie, have you never seen a hypertube cannon?

[fathom shuttle]

I’m pretty sure 99% of the problems with liquids in this game would be solved if they just gave us an option to have one way junctions

[minor vale]

thats just valves with extra steps and valves don't fix a lot of problems.

[fathom shuttle]

I tried making one but the connecting kept bugging out on me

[minor vale]

Well, either way you're not wrong
The faster you are going Into a hypertube, the more momentum you have for the first.. bit of it till you slow back down to normal speed.
Which is partly why hypertube cannons even work, but you can also make a hypertube cannon that isn't a cannon, and just have a ton of speed going into your tube.

[south sinew]

yeah I think I should do that because one thing that aggravates me about cannons is sometimes they are a bit finnicky

cannon into a tube should mean you actually go to the right place when you want to

[white dawn]

Hypertube cannons should be 100% reliable so long as you always enter them with the same velocity

[south sinew]

I had one I built which after a while just randomly launched me at completely the wrong angle

[hard ivy]

mine are 100% reliable at any walking/running/sliding velocity

the entrances just need to be spaced correctly I think

[south sinew]

mine was 100% reliable until that thing started happening

[tropic plover]

Okay, if I self drive, the trains work fone, but when i set up a timetable, it cant go back and forth. Also how do I get the stuff to unload at the end destination?
I set the platforms to the unload toggle

[white dawn]

Start a #1038092680493801533 thread and include good pictures (ideally overhead) of your stations, etc.

[hard ivy]

do both stations look like the one you posted in screenshots?

and the train comes in from the back?

[tropic plover]

Yes, the station is at the end of the freight platforms and I have the arroes of the stations pointing away fromt he track as you said

Yes, train goes through the freight platforms to get to the station

[hard ivy]

and you have locomotives on both ends of the train and they face opposite directions?

[tropic plover]

Correct

[fathom shuttle]

I’m gonna get so many powershards now

[hard ivy]

the schedule is just station 1 and station 2?

[tropic plover]

Yes

[hard ivy]

and there are no signals?

[tropic plover]

No signals, one single straight track

[fathom shuttle]

I’m about to build my first train for bauxite in a minute lol

Let’s hope it goes well

[hard ivy]

so the train went 1->2 fine but doesn't want to go 2->1?

when you hop in, what does it say?

[spiral dew]

do yall only use power shards in miners?

[tropic plover]

I drove it from 1-2, it auto loaded after I crashed it, lol
But when I set up the time table to go back from 2-1 it wont go

[hard ivy]

if I can use the extra ore, yes

[tropic plover]

Must the arrow for the station point towards the track rather?

[fathom shuttle]

Yea to max out my belts

[hard ivy]

post a #1038092680493801533 thread with screenshots of the train, stations and timetable

I've ran out of common issues I think

[fathom shuttle]

I wish we can overclock trains like you can with machines, if the train uses 30MW at 120km/h I’d gladly accept 100MW for 180km/h

[vast coyote]

can you not just add a loco?

[fathom shuttle]

I don’t think it adds speed, just makes your train move faster when loaded

[hard ivy]

no, it unfortunately caps out at ~120 km/h regardless

[vast coyote]

oh

lol

[minor vale]

adding more train engines just gives you more pull strenght.

There is a limit to how much a single train can pull up hill.
Add too many cars and it won't be a ble to go up as steel of slopes.

[fathom shuttle]

Lol I’d be happy with that too

[next umbra]

Good. It’s high in protein and regens a lot of health

[fathom shuttle]

How often do doggos find power slugs

Is to an actual good way to get them

[gentle jacinth]

i may not be smart but i believe that six hours for one slug isnt satisfactory

[bright magnet]

quick question the Coal power plants they consume coal either theyre connected or not to buildings right?

[fathom shuttle]

Wdym?

I thought if the doggo found an item, for example a purple power slug it will keep getting that item over and over

[tropic plover]

I had one station pointing the wrong way🙈
Sorry.
But thanks for the help.
Super useful having trains now

[distant pulsar]

do you mean if they're connected to your main energy line or not?

[fathom shuttle]

Well that unfortunate

It’s a cool decoration to have I guess

[bright magnet]

yeah

[gentle jacinth]

i hate it when first cycle goes slow

[fluid sapphire]

If you give a coal generator coal and water, and turn it on, it will burn coal no matter what, its connection to any grid has no bearing

[distant pulsar]

yes they will

[winter ruin]

Can trains cause inconsistencies in the amount of items being moved from 1 place to another?

[fathom shuttle]

Yea if you don’t have buffers set up to account for the train journey

[winter ruin]

I do have buffers set up and more than enough train cars so each one barely fills up

Im making around 900 encased uranium cells a minute and im moving them around halfway across the map

I have them going to around 45 manufacturers which in total will use 900/min but some are only running around 15 - 40% of the time

[distant pulsar]

Generally you can depend on trains but it takes setting it up first before you know the exact items per minute. You can look inside a train station to see how many items per minute are being received or sent

[tranquil hemlock]

Quick question regarding tractors; if there's a collision between them or they get stopped for whatever reason, will the game notify me?

[winter ruin]

Yeah I added it all up and im only seeing around 681/min

[solemn glacier]

Prob not

[solemn glacier]

I think it only does that for trains

[bronze gale]

pre sure they do for collisions and running out of fuel (maybe just fuel now)

[winter ruin]

They will fix themselves after some time

[solemn glacier]

Oh
Ok

[bronze gale]

because they do try to do this I know

I just dont know the limits of their fixing abilities

[tranquil hemlock]

Thanks peeps

[winter ruin]

If they cant fix themselves they will just teleport to the next waypoint

[distant pulsar]

if you add enough carts so that it doesn't fill up all the way, by the time it makes one full round, then you should get exactly 900/min

[winter ruin]

Each cart only fills up to maybe around 10 - 20%

And I have 2 trains running the route

6 carts per train

[distant pulsar]

hmm idk I'm stumped then. The math should work.

If you have one location producing 900 min and you never accumulate excess at that location, then you're getting 900 min at the other end

[winter ruin]

Is there no vc where I can screen share?

[fathom shuttle]

Guys is there any hard drive spot that you know has alclad aluminum sheets

[winter ruin]

Only thing I could think of is I have alot of trains using that track so times can vary

[fathom shuttle]

I need 90 at least, or 300 to unlock more stuff

[winter ruin]

Satisfactory calulator has an interactive map

You can find hard drives and possibly their loot there

[sour ledge]

anyone know a trick to make hypertubes go at a perfect incline without straightening out in the end? I can tilt the support, but i can't get fine control of the tilt angle that i need, just 15 degree increments...

trying to get a really long 1m ramp hypertube to be perfectly straight the whole way up the ramp and with or without mods i can't figure it out

[fathom shuttle]

I want the look exactly, I’ve looked around and only found a spot with 116 which would be enough for a hover pack but not mk5 logistics

[winter ruin]

You can use the mousewheel to angle it, or is that not working?

[distant pulsar]

are you sure that you're consuming 900 per min on the other end, and not more than that?

[sour ledge]

it is - that's how im doing it in 15 degree increments. but i need something like a 5 degree angle or what have you, and can't find a way to do finer control

[winter ruin]

I double checked

each uses 20/min and I have 45

[open tree]

Can you aim this slide into a hyper loop launcher

[winter ruin]

and I have 36 blenders making 25/min each

[winter ruin]

I tried and I see the issue

[distant pulsar]

this could also just be if you'e using a manifold it takes a while for all machines to saturate 100%

[winter ruin]

likely will need mods or some sort of trick to do it

[winter ruin]

its been a few hundred hours

and it was working before

it slowly dropped to this point where I am now

one of them hit 3% now

I check at the other factory and everything is at 100% there

strange thing is even at the station where the uranium cells are going into its not 900

[sour ledge]

downside: could not find a trick or mod to mess with the angle of the support more finely. Upside: acxd in the modding server found me an infinite length hyper tube mod, so i can just.... put a really, really, really long angled tube that stays perfectly diagnol the whole way across and then straightens out only when the ramp ends 😂 it'll do!

[winter ruin]

but I am producing 900/min

[bright magnet]

dunno not a clue but u can make a particle collider with the hyper tubes and cross the whole map while u read this message 😂

[bright magnet]

ah ok thats what i wanted to know before keep expanding my factory

[sour ledge]

this has happened for me before, so just in case: did you screw up priorities with a sink splitter somewhere and even though you're producing 900, you're sinking more than you can spare

[winter ruin]

not using any sinks

just simply not moving enough

and I cant find out why

[next umbra]

Shhhh why you gotta ruin the fun

[winter ruin]

I have 36 blenders each making 25/min

but im only transporting 681/min

[sour ledge]

is it a really small stack size item maybe? 1200 per train trip if it only stacks to 50, so if your train takes longer'n a minute and a half you'd run out

[winter ruin]

Im stacking around 5400 per trip

Its more than that

[sour ledge]

hrm.... 5400'd give ya six minutes so unless its a really busy track or really long one that wouldn't be it then.... a buffer issue?

[winter ruin]

Buffers are not the issue

[sour ledge]

im outta ideas then we've exhausted my "Why aren't my items shipping fast enough" checklist

[winter ruin]

Only thing I could think of is a incorrect belt such as a mk4 or mk3

but ive checked every belt

[lost wagon]

can you sink space elevator parts? I think I have way too much now

[winter ruin]

I found the issue

And it was the sinks

[sour ledge]

you absolutely can!

[winter ruin]

when the train loads it stops all inputs

[sour ledge]

you said you weren't using any sinks!

[winter ruin]

and backs up the line causing overflow to go into the sinks

yeah I forgot about some lol

[sour ledge]

😂

[winter ruin]

problem solved

hopefully

this is the 3rd or 4th issue I've found with fuel rod production or waste processing so I wont be surprised if there is more

[gentle jacinth]

fuel rods are annoying and i dont ever want to deal with them again

[fathom shuttle]

Damn so with a mk4 belt I’m limited to running 1 OC refinery to produce 500 alumina solution lol

[bronze gale]

this is my second time playing so I haven't gotten nearly as many Epic achievements, and the Pipe Dream achievement I just got was so loud and scared the crap outta me

[winter ruin]

This is my first time doing a setup with fuel rods and I went way to large scale for it lol

[fathom shuttle]

How much power do you plan?

[winter ruin]

225GW

[gentle jacinth]

i spent like 2 hours on cells then another 2 for everything else

[winter ruin]

I have spent at least 100 - 150 hours now

[fathom shuttle]

That’s how much I’m planning too, I’ll probably do 250GW tho so it becomes 300GW in total

[winter ruin]

between doing everything and troubleshooting

[gentle jacinth]

i was doing it with all advanced settings so it was less hard but i was still losing my marbles

i was doing*

[winter ruin]

The factory lags my world really bad but was 100% worth it for the 225GW

[fathom shuttle]

Time to do the most exciting and fun thing in game, it’s saving and rescanning until I get the recipe I want time!

This is peak fun

[lost wagon]

also there is no half walls? I mean in lenght not height

[winter ruin]

I was suffering from the lack of those earlier

[fathom shuttle]

Do you lag when you’re near it or everywhere

[winter ruin]

Near

[fathom shuttle]

What’s your cpu

[winter ruin]

Ryzen 7 5800x

rx 6750xt for the gpu

32gb of ram which is more than enough

[fathom shuttle]

I’m cooked if you’re lagging with that set up

[winter ruin]

This factory is massive and unnecessarily big so it might not be an issue if you build it smaller

[fathom shuttle]

Massive as in? Do you do everything on site

[winter ruin]

everything except fuel cells

check #screenshots

[lost wagon]

oh smart plating has no use after phase 2, why the hell am I still doing them

[winter ruin]

I think later space elevator recipes use it

[fathom shuttle]

Damn I see

[zenith pecan]

they come in use for later elevator shit.

[lost wagon]

as material for something else?

[winter ruin]

Its not even done yet but I had to take a 4.5 month break from the game because of it

[winter ruin]

Yes

[sour ledge]

had an issue with my rail blueprints where if i turned it the correct way connecting it off the other ramp, the hologram'd always be six nudges too low - i'd have to lock and nudge up exactly 6 times no matter what.

So I thought to myself, hey, I know what i'll do. I'll go make a copy of this blueprint.... that is floating exactly six nudges in the air! done and done!

said blueprint connects so low automatically that it now requires exactly.... 12 nudges up to get into position

you win this round, ada

[winter ruin]

The factory is so big that my game just crashes because of it

dont even want to talk about my turbo fuel factory

[fathom shuttle]

I think I used up all my luck when I got alumnia solution first time

[sour ledge]

I got it into my head to try to make the most ridiculous turbo fuel factory i could out of the entire western oil fields. I used the dilution, blends, and somersloops in every machine that'd take 'em. I underestimated the size of the factory so bad that by the time i got halfway through and had to stop playing for awhile, when i came back it was such an impossible mess i had to give up and abandon the project...

[winter ruin]

I made it without the diluted fuel recipe but it still took a few 8 hour+ days to finish it

[harsh kayak]

ADA CAN SWEAR???

[sour ledge]

Choo choo mother******

congratulations on unlocking trains

[fathom shuttle]

What are the chances of getting a recipe you need

[winter ruin]

never

You will likely spend hours just to get the 1 recipe you need just because the game feels like it

Just save any hard drives you dont want any recipes from

[sour ledge]

the trick is to get a ton of hard drives at the same time. You can't "roll" recipes that other ones are already offering, so they can sit there and "block out" the bad offers

[fathom shuttle]

Am I running in circles here

[sour ledge]

yes.

[fathom shuttle]

I got the automated miner recipe 3 times

[sour ledge]

see you gotta leave that hard drive un-used

[gentle jacinth]

i wish i could place beams on elevators

[fathom shuttle]

Don’t tell me there is a set recipe that you can’t change

[sour ledge]

then it'll prevent any other hard drives from offering you the miner

[fathom shuttle]

Oh my god

[atomic notch]

or just take it

[sour ledge]

yeah but an unused hard drive blocks 2 recipes whereas taking garbage only removes 1 from the pool

[atomic notch]

its not garbage tho

[sour ledge]

if you're not gonna be bothered to make a factory that uses it it's garbage until you are lol

[winter ruin]

mk1, mk2, mk3?

or did you get alt recipe

[atomic notch]

imagine handcrafting 🤮

[bronze gale]

what would yall recommend to sink starting at 40k a coupon?

[fathom shuttle]

No the miner you place down

[steady glade]

dna

[bronze gale]

I just started sinking petrocoke to get rid of residue and i dont wanna worry much about oil either way, and ive been sinking overflow of

[bronze gale]

isnt that manual?

oh but it is cheap...

[fathom shuttle]

Yea but you get tons of it especially if you sloop it

[bronze gale]

to start at least

sloop?

[fathom shuttle]

Production amplifier

[bronze gale]

lol fair enough

[fathom shuttle]

You use the soomersloops to 2x the production of your machine

[bronze gale]

ye ye i gotchya

[fathom shuttle]

They’re pretty op, use them for power shards too

[sour ledge]

slooping's really great for dna tbh - double the protein, then double again for the dna

[atomic notch]

good for biofuel as well

[bronze gale]

man i might start collecting mob drops

i really couldnt think of the use

theyre in inhalers right?

I think I barely ever used dna points last save

[atomic notch]

protein inhaler yeah

[bronze gale]

ope

[fathom shuttle]

You can sloop 1 animal remain into 6000 biofuel

[atomic notch]

cool story bro

[bronze gale]

if you sloop it at like each step?

[atomic notch]

i i got one on my biofuel production but im not slooping it rn

[fathom shuttle]

Yes

[sour ledge]

is there a way to reorganize the submenus in your build list? like if i wanted inverted ramps listed before regular ramps

[prisma forge]

#screenshots message

Have slooped machines producing alien protein and alien DNA. This is what happens when I turn them on.

[atomic notch]

cool

[sour ledge]

more'n anything i appreciate the amount of violence required to sustain that for more'n a few seconds

[prisma forge]

I just made a factory producing 450 rifle ammo and 7.5 cluster nobelisks a minute

actually, 10 cluster nobelisks

[sour ledge]

may the evil pig who killed me with a rock be reincarnated in your world for a more terrible death than i was able to inflict

i just shot him with rebar like a peasant

[prisma forge]

I shall avenge you, pioneer. By completely exterminating all hostile life in this planet.

[boreal laurel]

why do conveyor walls overlap the blueprint machine

[atomic notch]

im boutta make a lil consumable factory, gonna put this charcoal alt to good use

[prisma forge]

I need to finish my phase 3 factory. Been procrastinating for too long.

[sour ledge]

if you start exterminating non-hostile life ada takes issue with it. she liked me better before i killed a lizard doggo '>.>

in my defense, my rebar gun was freshly crafted and it was right there, all target-practice lookin'....

[delicate nymph]

where can i find 100 aluminum alclad sheets forom crashed ships

[severe silo]

My brain is gonna melt from reading anything in these channels T-T

[delicate nymph]

need to get the hover pack

[prisma forge]

idk where exactly but I think I found some in the spiral coast up north, or maybe it was between the coast and dune desert, in that mountain

either there or swamp

[delicate nymph]

can you send a screenshot of where it is in the map

[prisma forge]

dude i am a war criminal, not a savage.

[delicate nymph]

i can cannon over to it

[prisma forge]

#screenshots message

somewhere around these parts

[spiral dew]

are there any intermediate parts that are best to overproduce to prepare for late game?

[delicate nymph]

do you have a more exact location

[distant pulsar]

rotors, copper sheets, motors, computers, circuits, copper cable

[prisma forge]

Nope, I was exploring the area and found it there

Most probably around the mountain in the first screenshot

[dark plaza]

In mid to late game do you guys transfer around the completed items or the raw materials to other factories? I've got like a dozen factories producing different things that need to be brought together.

[fathom shuttle]

Israelis when looking at children be like

[urban root]

Dam

[zenith pecan]

Completed items towards other chains make sense because these things will take up less room on a belt/train/truck/drone/back pocket,

[bronze gale]

holy crap thanks

just went from 8 coupons or so to 50 in like 1 minute just using alien meat I already had and slooping it

and its still 10 times cheaper than my standard points lol

why did no one ever tell me this..

I mean I never asked but still

[distant pulsar]

I do completed items shipped to another building. That way you don't need to rebuild whole sections of factories to produce the same item again.

[fathom shuttle]

Save them up

[dark plaza]

Thanks. That's usually what I do but it's a lot of logistics lol

[fathom shuttle]

If you want the golden nut statue they’re really valuable

[bronze gale]

nah I gotta spend em now, assuming you mean coupons

[bronze gale]

..uh huh

[fathom shuttle]

DNA capsules

The golden nut takes 1000 coupons

[zenith pecan]

I know logistics, check this mess out #satisfactory-experimental message

[bronze gale]

1000 is too much

but fair anyway

anyway imma go on a shopping spree soon

[fathom shuttle]

So if you have enough for 200 coupons then you save yourself like 2 billion points you needed to sink

[zenith pecan]

Here's the same place as a clip #screenshots message , it is limited to moving just 10200 sam for processing though.

[fathom shuttle]

I have 400 capsules saved up

[sour ledge]

i love how this game has me sometimes going "Hmmmm, jetpack can't get me up this cliff, its too tall. My parachute can fly me up though!"

[tropic bear]

would anyone know why quartz isnt showing up in the world at the nodes?

[urban root]

Cave, Some of the nodes are underground

[torpid plover]

hey y'all i'm hoping someone can help me, i made a dedicated server in 1.1 and no matter what i do, i'm just stuck in a loading screen forever. i did the command "open TCP/8888" but that hasn't done anything. am i missing something? thanks y'all.

[urban root]

login to your router and port forward 8888 TCP. Dont just run a command on the host system. in additon you'll need to also port forward 7777 TCP/UDP

for continued Dedicated server discussion lets move to https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/902621736602861588

[torpid plover]

how to i access my router to do this? is there a specific system command?

[tropic bear]

i cant find the entrance

[sharp sentinel]

... One of the hogs that throws stuff just hit my nobelisk mid-air with a rock and killed me. I hope he got an achievement for that.

[dark plaza]

which area are you in? Do you want spoilers?

[tropic bear]

i have no idea what area im in

[dark plaza]

If you can't find the node then it's almost certainly underground. Some of the cave entrances are far away from where the nodes show on the map

[tropic bear]

ah

[dark plaza]

Yeah, there's one in particular where the nodes are in the middle of a cave with 3 entrances. All pretty far from where the nodes actually are

[leaden ether]

In the Rocky Desert? 😄

[dark plaza]

lmao everyone knows the one

[tropic bear]

im on the left side

[dark plaza]

That's the rocky desert

[tropic bear]

-1856 -1756 something like that

[dark plaza]

lol good luck!

[tropic bear]

lol going somewhere else then lol

[dark plaza]

Nah... do you have nobelisks?

[tropic bear]

nah i just started trying to get quartz for blade runners

[leaden ether]

I'm pulling all the possible quartz rfom there and making crystals from it on the beach 🙂

[dark plaza]

You can usually run across enough quartz nodes randomly to get the blade runners

[sharp sentinel]

Anyone know if pipes just stop working right when you aren't within a thousand km of them?

[gentle jacinth]

i believe it will stay loaded and work

[sharp sentinel]

I'll go out to my power station, stabilise everything, and then when I get back to my main factory area it's whack again.

[frail sleet]

It's probably just not actually stable

[sharp sentinel]

I even spend time there making sure it stays that way. q.q

[gentle jacinth]

do you use nuclear

or any fluid in your power station

[sharp sentinel]

This is eight coal generators and twelve fuel generators.

[solid grail]

They can be tricky but they should stay loaded.

[frail sleet]

post questions and help thread with pics of the pipes

[gentle jacinth]

are you sinking / putting the polymer resin into storage?

[sharp sentinel]

Both.

I have to find which level is experiencing issues before I troubleshoot it.

Ah, I see the issue. I have a fuel generator directly on the end of the pipeline and it's sucking the pipe dry.

I'll just get rid of it.

[abstract hedge]

I think ive made a grave mistake,

I dont currently have a factory for iron as im early game (finished stage 1 minus the explorer one with the MAM)

I'm building a factory with literally handcrafting everythiing (plates,rods,etc)

have i just completely cooked myself 😅

[solid grail]

3 water extractors at 75% can power 6 fuel generators i beleve

[gentle jacinth]

no, you can still save yourself i think

if you have a portable miner then you can make a miner tier 1

or mk1

[sharp sentinel]

Why do you have water going into your fuel generators at all...

[gentle jacinth]

HOW DID THAT WEIRD FROG THING GET INTO MY FACTORY

[solid grail]

Ye you can save yourself ez just start by automating the basic stuff

[abstract hedge]

yeah i have a mk1 miner that im just pulling iron ore out of to smelt manually 😭

and craft my plates manually

but hey i have 14 furnaces setup from splitters going into mergers

(now to build the constructors)

[radiant onyx]

how to split 4 outputs of 420 into
1260 split between 8 inputs + 420 split between 2 inputs

[solid grail]

Do it automaticly 100% better

[radiant onyx]

the 420 -> 420 is obvious but

how would i split the remaining 3 outputs into 8 inputs

[gentle jacinth]

making smart plating is so slow even with x2 output and full overclock

[abstract hedge]

yeah i am about to setup a constructor to get that done so i dont have to keep holding down space for 12 years at a time

[solid grail]

Haha, thats the way to go!

[minor vale]

seeing my max power consumption exceed my production
not ag ood feeling.

[tranquil hemlock]

That feel when you realised you set something up poorly and now have to fix it 🥲 Realised I didn't leave any room to split my metal beams off to make encased as well from that line

[sharp sentinel]

Donezo.

[gentle jacinth]

hypothetically, is there a height limit if i were to make a massive factory?

[solid grail]

Yes

[minor vale]

you'd have to try very hard to hit the hight limit.

[lost wagon]

it's pretty high tho

[gentle jacinth]

doesnt sound hard to reach im going to make a few more floors

[minor vale]

if by a few you mean a hundred then maybe

depending on how big each floor is

[gentle jacinth]

4 walls on my base floors (1-5) and im working on my fifth right now

i got am od that lets me build nodes luckily

[minor vale]

at that rate you will never have to worry about a height limit.

which, for the record.
The height limit is just a universal top of the map zone you can't build above.
Has nothing to do with the terrain or structure below it.

[gentle jacinth]

so its like minecraft

[minor vale]

in that sense yea

[gentle jacinth]

i wonder what i should make on this floor

dude i made pizza rolls earlier and left them in the freezer and forgot

[solid grail]

Rip pizza rolls 🫡

[winter ruin]

Anyone know why I cant change conveyor belt item frequency to anything but 30 when before 1.1 I could put it as high as I wanted?

[spiral dew]

this is brilliant

[gentle jacinth]

tasted like rubber when i reheated them

[spiral dew]

never wouldve thought about doin that

[solid grail]

🤣🤣💀

[abstract hedge]

#screenshots message
how was THIS 200 iron plates???

[solid grail]

Technalogia

[gentle jacinth]

im going to turn my 5th floor into a copper wire thing

[harsh kayak]

Why do only some buildings turn copper when i apply the finish to them and others just turn pink

[gentle jacinth]

it feels so weird having a drill on my factory

[charred sentinel]

Did 1.1 take away the "Unlimited Length Vertical Conveyors Through A Floor Hole" trick?

[sour ledge]

it better not have!

[urban root]

No I still use it

[gentle jacinth]

for the funny secret car it should only move right, even if you go reverse, you only go right

[charred sentinel]

And the process is still "build the top and bottom floors (making sure they're aligned), put in the conveyor floor hole, attach the top lift piece, go to the lower floor, and build the bottom of the lift", correct?

[lost wagon]

I went back to my base to get mercer spheres to build the storage, I got other things and forgot to get the dumb spheres

😡

[spiral dew]

for fun, i put sloops and max power shard in manufacturer

738 MW

[dark tinsel]

So been trying to figure out where to put my pipeline pumps, and everything I read states I should be able to follow the "Head Lift Limit Range" (the blue blue thing that pulses up the tube when you are placing it down). For some reason, this thing just dissapears the moment I hit a support. Is this normal or expected? I am placing a tube on the smallest angle ramps.

[covert vault]

The placement guide is a bit unreliable, often as not it doesn't appear at all for me

[winter ruin]

From my experience as long as you get fluid flow its probably fine

[covert vault]

are you doing L1 or L2 pumps?

[dark tinsel]

L1 pumps. And its only if the support is on a foundation. It just stops and dissapears.

Well doesnt stop, just dissapears

[covert vault]

yup, what I'd suggest is just learn the spacing you need, for an L1 pump it's about 8 to 10 of the lowest angle ramps

[charred sentinel]

Okay, false alarm. That trick is still working, and mostly the way I described. You just have to climb up to the point where the lift hole is within build gun range.

[dark tinsel]

Thats annoying, but yah, this thing seems really buggy

[winter ruin]

Just build alot of pumps and hope for the best

[gentle jacinth]

pumps are annoying

[winter ruin]

Try piping 90 diffrent lines of water to a bunch of reactors

[dark tinsel]

The OCD in me wants to get it just right 🙂 but yah, ill just have to get a feel for it.

[winter ruin]

tell me pumps are annoying then

[gentle jacinth]

i already tried

[dark tinsel]

haha im a rookie, just trying to hook up my first coal power plant 😉

[covert vault]

only 90? 😛

[random echo]

i just got 10,000,000 points pm on the sink :D

[gentle jacinth]

dunno, didnt count

it did involve a lot of cheat mods to duplicate fluids

[random echo]

75,000,000 now :D

[winter ruin]

Me and a friend just ended up spending a whole day building water extractors and piping water up

probably the worst part of nuclear power

[gentle jacinth]

i understand why nuclear reactors need water but most the time it has to be directly on the ground

so moving water up takes forever and most the time doesnt want to go up

[dark tinsel]

so yah, the blue ring thing just doesnt work as soon as you start putting supports that are on a foundation. if you have foundations on just regular ground there is no issue TIL

[white dawn]

If you're sending the water more than 10m higher than the water extractor's output, then you'd need a pump; shouldn't take too long to fill up a pipe given the flow rates

[gentle jacinth]

randomly drains and stops flowing for a few seconds even with pumps

[covert vault]

I average like 10'000'000 constantly, I have so many resources flowing into the sinks all over the map, it's now at something like 550'000'000'000 for a single ticket.

[white dawn]

Though yeah, I basically always build NPPs right near sea level so the extractors are right next to the NPPs

[gentle jacinth]

even with like 4 pumps on one pipe going 4m up

[white dawn]

I'd recommend starting a #1038092680493801533 thread with pictures of your setup, etc. I'm sure whatever issue you've got is solvable. :)

[minor vale]

that's what pumps are for

[gentle jacinth]

4 pumps and it wont go 4 meters up and decides to go back down randomly

[minor vale]

did you power the pump

[gentle jacinth]

yes

[sour ledge]

hrm. building my figure 8 station and the signal rule of 'merge = block, split = path' has failed me

honestly this one chunk of track makes no sense to me - i've got like half a dozen signals on it and it's still being considered one block....

[distant hill]

Personal opinion Converters need to make more time crystals per machine...

[minor vale]

ok problems to check in this order:

1: water input is powered
2: pumps are powered
3: pumps are actually placed low enough to be useful. (all machines that are not pumps have like.. 10 meters of headlift. that's a bit less than the height of a water extractor from the pipe on it)
4: double check exactly where the water appears to be stopping. and perhaps rebuild the pipe to make sure the connection isn't bugged
5: turn the machien the fluid is going into off, until the pipe is 100% backed up with water.

[tropic bear]

4 normal nodes of coal is enough for 8 or 16 coal power plants?

[urban root]

i connect the lift from under the top then run them down. then i put the ends on the conveyor holes last

[minor vale]

divide however much coal you're mining by 15
coal gens use 15 per minute

[timid mesa]

for aluminium, i am trying to recycle my water since i am using sloppy alternative recipe and aluminium scrap also produce water. problem is they arent balanced at all. if i use a pump and water extractor, the pipe remain too full of water. any idea?

[tropic bear]

thanks

[white dawn]

I always recomment keeping the fresh + recycled totally separate. Send 'em to separate banks of machines, and downclock as appropriate

Like this example from a vanilla-recipe aluminum setup, but the concept's the same: #satisfactory-experimental message

[minor vale]

Either go look up how to make a VIP pipe system so that your recycled water has priority

ooor don't recycle your water and use recipies like wet concrete to sink it.

after having issues with water recycling myself, i'd mostly reccomend the later.
water is everywhere after all, not a resource you're hurting for.

[fathom shuttle]

Gonna use this

[fathom shuttle]

How much bauxite does it take?

I’ll probably start overclocking thing to make it easier for me

[white dawn]

Oh, don't recall; that was a pretty small starter aluminum factory to get alclad accumulating while I went out hard drive hunting. :D

Haven't had that save open since February; don't recall the details

[sweet patio]

i have a question, i am last phase (phase 2) assume, i produce, modular frame, how much do u plan to produce? like many recipie require mod frame, when other recipie require MF you produce there again or u setup train from where you originally produced, i get confued by how much(how many numbers)to produce?

[white dawn]

My recommendation: whenever something needs Modular Frames, just make more modular frames right inside that new factory.

That way the only "how much of X should I make?" question is how quickly you want your own personal storage to fill up

[fathom shuttle]

I’ll be using it for the same reasons lol

I need the electrode scrap and pure aluminum ingot

[white dawn]

It means you'll end up with maybe dozens of factories which are making modular frames, but you'll always be making exactly as much as you need. :)

[fathom shuttle]

Mk5 belts need aluminum sheets that sucks

[minor vale]

i'd produce a pretty good ammount of modular frames per minute.
With the intent on porting it to other things in the future, since modular frames are used in many things.
And if you can you'd ave yourself a lot of time just evnetually belting that line into other things in the future.

while also still keeping some for yourself.

[white dawn]

Ah, but alclad is really easy to make in bulk, especially right after you've unlocked aluminum -- at that point, there's not a lot else which needs aluminum

[fathom shuttle]

Well it sucks at first but not once I get production going I know

[white dawn]

I've found I can usually pump my storage full w/ alclad pretty quickly

[sweet patio]

Ok

[fathom shuttle]

I’m buying 300 from the awesome shop lol

Need the mk5 belts and hoverpack

[distant hill]

I found that the mk6 belts made setting up aluminum in particular easier, since you can offload scrap at 1200 a min

[fathom shuttle]

Mk5 belts are an awkward spot

[inner pollen]

hi

[distant hill]

Yeah, in the pre mk5 phase what I do is set up with the mk4s just enough to get sheet production, then finish the build out with mk5s

[fathom shuttle]

Oh my god, 45 compromised passwords

[white dawn]

Once you get used to building aluminum, mk5 belts will seem cheap to you

[fathom shuttle]

Guys check your passwords app rn

[broken thorn]

why

[fathom shuttle]

Just do it

[minor vale]

imagine using apps for your passwords

[broken thorn]

yeah the fuck

[minor vale]

instead of writing them out with belts in satisfactory

[solid grail]

😂

[inner pollen]

i got a all my passwords in my head

[broken thorn]

nah I have 5 passwords burned into my brain I use for different things

[frail sleet]

A Normal node with either an overclocked mk.1 miner or a 100% clock mk.2 miner can fill a 120 belt, which powers 8 gens. So 4 nodes can do 32 gens.

Later on you can overclock mk.2 miners and use mk.3 belts, so 4 normal nodes can handle 72 gens.

32 gens is however enough to get you to fuel power, which is much more powerful.

[spiral dew]

hmmm solid steel ingot is interesting

[white dawn]

I admit that aluminum processing is a bit daunting the first time around, but it's really easy to build a lot of ingots (and therefore a lot of alclad). I'm generally awash in mk5s very shortly after unlocking aluminum

[inner pollen]

i got 17

[broken thorn]

goat

[minor vale]

it's the best steel alt

[fathom shuttle]

Most passwords are compromised now apparently, I’d change them if I were you lol

[gentle jacinth]

im keeping mine

[broken thorn]

fatal mistake: saying an alt is the best in the Satisfactory Discord

inbound '' it depends ''

[minor vale]

it's a mistake I willingly make when someone says solid steel ingot

[gentle jacinth]

it depends

[fathom shuttle]

Well it depends, sometimes it is the best alt.

[frail sleet]

It's not actually a new breach, it's more of a "hey look, somebody put all of these data breaches together into a conveniently accessed file"

[spiral dew]

basically goes from 3 iron/3 coal to 2 iron/2coal for 3 steel ingots

[inner pollen]

okay is there a way to put the Mk.2 belts on my hotbar

[distant pulsar]

This is alt recipe ranking canon

https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1fekus9/alternate_recipe_ranking_10_optimizing_for/

[minor vale]

you get 1 extra steel per 2 iron by presmelting your ores yes.
it also makes hte numbers per minute in the foundry more even.

[frail sleet]

mouse over it and press the number

[white dawn]

Same way you put mk1 belts on your hotbar. :)

[fathom shuttle]

Not gonna mess with that, I use the same password for everything, and I mean EVERYTHING

[broken thorn]

goes from 1:1 to 2:3 ratio

[inner pollen]

it did that for me

[frail sleet]

Yeah, don't do that.

If you absolutely must, then use a password manager and use one secure password to get into it so that you have your one password. The password manager can then make 30 different secure passwords for your 30 different things.

[spiral dew]

coal is somewhat scarce for me in dune desert, so great all around to get more steel

[hard ivy]

Skill issue lol
(Google says only one of mine is compromised, but I wouldn't be able to log in if it wasn't)

[minor vale]

it really isn't.

[spiral dew]

1password is game changer

[broken thorn]

the dude that got his steam password stealing his bank account and also the email signed in his 2 authentication factor:

[spiral dew]

well i can reclaim a lot of it now with fuel generator power

phase out the coal power

[minor vale]

if you need coal in the dune desert go to the north end.
there's like...

A fucking ton there.
Spread across

[gentle jacinth]

yeah yeah, its old passwords from previosu breaches being put together on one big document. most of my important apps have a phone number linked to it

[frail sleet]

They wouldn't dare touch the steam account. Gabe's private SWAT team would be on him in minutes

[minor vale]

last time I played in the dune desert I made a massive 9.3GW compact coal power plant

[gentle jacinth]

its like he has a whole military to get your account back

[broken thorn]

I've clicked on one of those links of free 50$ steam gift card and put my password in the fake steam site 😭

don't blame me I was too young

[spiral dew]

i learned my lesson about password management back when my runescape acc got hacked

[gentle jacinth]

like 5 years ago i lost my account to a fake "i reported you" but it had nothing on it thankfully

[frail sleet]

You won't do it again. I did a lot of dumb shit when i was young..

Runescape limited a lot of my losses to virtual items instead of real money. The breadth and depth of scams on there was unreal

I got got by the hunter2 thing, and numerous other scams like person A stands up the road selling something worth 30k for 50k gold (so a bad deal), and person B stands down the road "buying it" for 100k to bait you into buying it to flip it to him. When you pay 50k for the item, person B vanishes.

[solid grail]

Only takes one time to learn 😂

[broken thorn]

I did manage to retrieve my account 3 hours later and steam support tracked down the scammer's whole bloodline so it's fine now :)

[spiral dew]

trimming factories 1 trade

[fathom shuttle]

My plan is to simply set up a starter one and wait until i get enough sheets to build everything with mk5 belts, I’ll overclock scrappy alumnia refinery to max out the pipe and that will go into 2 refineries that do the rest of the job. What’s missing is how ill turn that into aluminum ingots because I’ll need silica for that unless I get lucky with the 2 hard drives

[onyx fern]

Is there any way to instantly sort the output of a truck station? I have a truck bringing Reinforced Iron Plates and Cables to a nearby factory, and I was going to sort it with a Smart Splitter right after the truck station, but it's going stack by stack and currently only outputing Cables, instead of a mixture of both.

Will this cause issues down the line in production? Is there any way to avoid this?

[hard ivy]

Just don't mix items

[minor vale]

last year, when I had a save I made in the dune desert, I made this #design-and-architecture message

[fathom shuttle]

The only thing I want more from the hard drives than the pure aluminum ingot recipe is the diddy tapes rn

[spiral dew]

nice pipe work 😄

[inner pollen]

my base is a mess

[white dawn]

There's no way to avoid the items being taken out a stack at a time, but so long as you're buffering after the sort (ie: slap an ISC after the Smart Splitter sorts) and wait for a delivery or two before actually turning on processing, it won't matter

[gentle jacinth]

this floor im making has a water node in it, but its giant

[onyx fern]

Is this really the best way to go about this? I'm really tight on space, and the way I have it set up is kinda the best way I can think to do it.

[broken thorn]

I think programmable splitters can help If I'm not mistaken, I forgot how they work

[white dawn]

Sushi deliveries of material from vehicles/trains/drones is fine; you've just gotta make sure to have buffering and make sure that you let the buffer fill a bit first

[broken thorn]

Programmable splitters are just smart splitters but with more slots for items to go to each output, right?

[hard ivy]

That or sinking stuff to make sure the belt is always moving

[white dawn]

Nah, Programmables don't help. But a bit of simple buffering will do the trick.

[fathom shuttle]

Do programmable/smart splitters have a flow limit

[white dawn]

Nope

[winter ruin]

I have finnaly managed to touch the space elevator

[fathom shuttle]

Oh nice

[broken thorn]

Limited by the belt you're using

[onyx fern]

What's an ISC? I've thought about making a Sink outside the factory where I can sink both belts if they start to overflow, which I think is the best way to go about this?

[white dawn]

Anything a Programmable can do can be achieved by a collection of smarts + mergers

[hard ivy]

Thankfully, no

[broken thorn]

theoretically all outputs can output 1200 p/m with mk6 belts

[white dawn]

Industrial Storage Container. (Could also just use a regular storage container)

[fathom shuttle]

Make a blue print for them

[white dawn]

You should absolutely make sure to have an overflow-to-sink when you're dealing with sushi, unless you're extremely confident of your ability to deliver exactly the correct rate of material

[fathom shuttle]

Having a quick way to store 192 stacks of an item is awesome

[harsh kayak]

Why do only some buildings turn copper when i apply the finish to them and others just turn pink

[onyx fern]

I am ever so slightly overdelivering on both items, so I will go add a sink for the incoming belts right now.

[minor vale]

smart splitter
overflow on the side

you can kinda do this with just about everything

[white dawn]

But yeah, series of smart splitters with "item" on one output, and "overflow" on the other. The "item" output goes into an ISC (or just a regular storage container), and then gets processed from there. The final overflow goes to a sink. If you let your vehicle/whatever make a delivery or two before processing, the buffering will even out any stack-delivery burstiness

[spiral dew]

i gotta try out some sushi designs sometime

[broken thorn]

What RCU recipe do you guys generally go by? I think I'll use the default one

[long raft]

Hello everyone, new to the discord and have a question.
Is the game cross play between Xbox and PC?
Everywhere i look still shows the game unavailable on XBox.

Has anyone tried? And have anyone had any success??

[hard ivy]

Default

[white dawn]

Yeah, it's a lot of fun! A few more things to keep track of, of course, but once you're used to it it's no big deal

[fathom shuttle]

No console release yet

[white dawn]

Console has not been released yet, but there will not be crossplay between console and PC. Xbox and Playstation can play with each other, though

[inner pollen]

#screenshots message soo much powerrr compared to how much i have. i have only 375 production

[broken thorn]

Why's that?

[onyx fern]

Doing it after the sushi will cause problems though, won't it? Assume Cable is completely backed up, but more plates can flow. If there's an overflow line, then everything will go to the overflow, not just cable, right?

[long raft]

Why do I have the option to DL to my Xbox? That's kinda a tease

[fathom shuttle]

What about cross progression?

[white dawn]

Basically because they didn't want to shackle their PC releases to the console release schedules. They want to retain the ability to roll out quick patches on PC, which would break console compatibility since console releases have to go through approval processes first

[broken thorn]

Sushi's just a belt with different types of items with a shit ton of smart splitters to sort them later, right?

[distant pulsar]

oh don't worry, this is super late game

[white dawn]

Yeah. Probably technically "sushi" just refers to the belt containing a mix of items, but yeah, smart splitters are necessary for the sorting. :)

[long raft]

That makes sense, makes me wish the make separate versions like Minecraft, with Java v Bedrock

[white dawn]

If you mean savegame compatibility, I have no idea. I don't think they've talked about that specifically

[minor vale]

There's a number of fixes for that which you'd use depending on a number of situations
if you're going sushi belt style and are worried about things backing up, then consider storage containers as buffers for individgual items being taken out of the sushi belt.
And then you just use more smart splitters to sink the excess to prevent clogging.
As an example.

[fathom shuttle]

Man they really need to add that in

[onyx fern]

Ah, gotcha. So then it is better to manage overflow per belt, rather than do it right off the truck station?

[fathom shuttle]

How do I calculate how much buffering/throughput I’ll need for trains?

[minor vale]

honestly, do both.

[white dawn]

You have a Smart Splitter for each sorted item. If cables overflow, they'll reach the Plates sorter and also overflow there, and eventually end up in the sink

[broken thorn]

Is singleplayer just a locally hosted server?

[onyx fern]

Gotcha, that's what I'm going to do. They're sorted off the truck station into 2 lines. Then, each line gets it's own smart splitter that manages overflow and feeds into a sink

[next umbra]

Say that again but slowly

[white dawn]

[Station] -----> [SS] ----(overflow)---> [SS] ----(overflow)---> [Sink]
                  |                       |
                (item)                  (item)
                  |                       |
                  v                       v
                 [ISC]                   [ISC]
                  |                       |
                  v                       v
              [Process...]            [Process...]

[white dawn]

sort of, though 1.0 added in a more tightly-integrated truer "singleplayer" mode

But yes, it's essentially the server in the background. Folks have even seen the server-reboot notification in singleplayer before, and it's been the source of weird pawn issues when people end up offline (since the game thought you were a different person than before). I believe 1.0 might have more or less taken care of that last issue, though

[fathom shuttle]

Does it show up on the train

[minor vale]

yes but also the max throughput of a train is slightly les than the max of 2 input belts.

as long as you aren't backing up you can expet 100% thorughput.

[white dawn]

If you keep yourself to one belt per platform, the buffering on train stations is easy: hook an ISC up to both ports on the station, and have one belt go out

[minor vale]

and just keep track of input output on each side.

[white dawn]

For throughput, I always just start with one car and see if the route can support the throughput I need

If it's not sufficient, I add another car. :D

Calculating the actual throughput a train line can give you requires knowing how long the round-trip takes, so if you're building the thing anyway I always figure I'll just trial-and-error it

I don't tend to ever bother mathing it out.

[minor vale]

Train throughput is more a matter of wether the train can make a round trip before the platform fills 100%
or close enough to 100% to start clogging.

[white dawn]

Though my method does require that you leave yourself some extra space at your stations in case you do need to add more cars

[onyx fern]

This still encounters the issue of the truck station unloading only one stack at a time though, right? I've created a slightly different version and it seems to make sense, but the truck station is taking it's time only unloading cables, so I can't be too sure lol

[warped pawn]

``how should i put my trains? theyre all going to the same factory, all the same line or how many seperate lines would i need

[minor vale]

I mean if you're having that issue then use two exit belts.
And two smart splitters

with storage buffers to get stuff out of the truck station.

[white dawn]

Right, but again: so long as you let the train go through a delivery first before processing, that doesn't matter.

[fathom shuttle]

Yea space won’t be an issue for me

[white dawn]

You'll have some material in the ISCs as buffer, so it doesn't matter that the individual items are a bit bursty

The train/vehicle/drone delivery is already coming in one gigantic burst; some smaller per-item bursts aren't gonna matter

[fathom shuttle]

I’ll just trial and error it first, I’m done gathering the materials needed so I’ll start building

[white dawn]

(Technically you don't even have to wait for it to buffer; it'll just build up its buffer automatically during the first few delivery cycles, since some machines will temporarily starve during that burn-in)

[fathom shuttle]

I simplified things by making the train dedicated for one item only, which is bauxite extracted form a 600/min node

[white dawn]

I tend to build my material delivery infrastructure first before actually doing the rest of the factory, so I tend to have all my material buffers completely full by the time I'm ready to turn things on

[minor vale]

Yea if you're using Trains, you can honestly make it easier by only having 1 item type per car.

[fathom shuttle]

I’ll probably carry my reanimated Sam from that train station as well because the nodes are close together

It’s the pure nodes ontop of the mountains

[minor vale]

My last aluminum factory Was getting thousands of silica per minute through the train
It was nice.

[primal haven]

since I could never figure out train thoroughput very well, I always just overdid it to make sure I had enough of whatever

[fathom shuttle]

Why would you use silica when you have the alternate recipe

[primal haven]

is there a good way to make trains dependable?

[minor vale]

Train throughout isn't that complex.
The max through put is slightly less than the throug put of the 1-2 belts going in and out.
So long as neither side backs out.
You have 100% throug put

[onyx fern]

Alright, I think I got it.
#screenshots message

This is how it's set up and honestly, it seems to be working. Both of my manufacturers are completely full, and the Cable belt is always flowing until Reinforced Plates start unloading.

[minor vale]

didn't want to or didn't have it.
don't remember at this point.
Still, had to use 2 seperate trains in order to actually meet the demand
it was backing up with 1 train and 4 cars

[white dawn]

Because the other recipe requires more bauxite for the same amount of ingots, could be one reason

Saving on quartz cones with a price. :)

[solid grail]

[minor vale]

I also got to make an underground train station for it
#screenshots message

[open robin]

I have a bug that I need assistance for, is there a place to discuss bugs?

[minor vale]

is it actually a bug or is it pipes

[open robin]

its a bug with the pattern customizer

it's not placing in the expected orientation.

[heady phoenix]

how do I transfer water via pipe in a large distance? my water pipes are almost empty after a while despite having pumps

[minor vale]

you can bug report on their website.

[minor vale]

turn off all the machines at the other end that's recieving water and let the pipes build up.
liquids move better if pipes are full.

[heady phoenix]

thanks! didnt know the game had this physic

[minor vale]

pipes follow some basic physics rules.
They like to follow gravity, and basic ideas of water pressure apply.
outside thatj ust make sure you know how headlift works (and also your input output numbers just like belts) and you'll be fine.

[fathom shuttle]

True

But like… to much work for saving on bauxite

[sour ledge]

anyone else kinda wish you could pull on the rays whiskers while riding him to direct him a bit

they're floating right back towards ya like handle bars....

[primal haven]

would make exploring on them more fun

[sharp sentinel]

Is there no way to put stackable poles on pre-existing belts?

[primal haven]

you have to aim underneath them

or nudge them

[sharp sentinel]

Bit difficult since they're flat on the ground. Looks like more work for me. yay.

[primal haven]

beauty is pain

[median shell]

Lot of good info on this here https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Train_throughput

[fathom shuttle]

Should I use 2m or 1m ramps for going downhill with trains?

[primal haven]

both should be fine I think its the 4m that is slow going up

[bright magnet]

since when power storage has 2 connection points? i always though it was only 1 like the rest of the buildings

[primal haven]

I might be mixing it up, is 4m too steep for rail?

[leaden ether]

Basically try to use one most of all and use two only if necessary.

[primal haven]

I think since its electrical its more like the lights with multiple points

[leaden ether]

Never even tried 4, 2 slows doen enough as it is

[primal haven]

you can use extra engines but its a bit unreasonable

[leaden ether]

If you use multiple engines it might work in a pinch but...

Heh.

[bright magnet]

pull a Factorio train setup ... 4 train engines and 10 containers

[minor vale]

Trains can handle 4 meter just fine

[primal haven]

yeah im thinking about sticking to the same rule of same size trains as last save, but want to do longer ones

that might actually look really cool too, two trains on each end

[minor vale]

the issue with having multiple engines on a side is needing to accomodate space at the stations for it.

[primal haven]

yeah as long as all my trains are the same though I can plan for it ahead of time

[bright magnet]

u can do the trains in each end but if i recall its kinda of a nightmare of a setup

[primal haven]

its when I start trying to add cars and stuff that I start having issues with signals and jams

[primal haven]

functionally it shouldnt matter where they are and how they face

I think you just need the one on each end, it doesnt even have to ever be bi-directional

[fathom shuttle]

Is half a foundation enough spacing between each line?

[primal haven]

they add power backwards

[urban root]

the space between signals should be longer than your longest train.

[fathom shuttle]

Should increase it to 1?

[minor vale]

do 1

[fathom shuttle]

Alr

[primal haven]

im mostly trying to prevent having to tear down stations later on, I had to in my first save

[minor vale]

on my last save, I went overkill with avoiding train collissions and made left turns incredibly hard to make.

my trains would have to make a right turn and a u-turn in order to turn lft.
Or vice versa
#design-and-architecture message

can't say I ever got a chance to test it under high traffic conditions.

[fathom shuttle]

So if my blueprint designer storage system where does all the excess materials go?

Is it in a dismantle crate

[stuck grove]

How do I organize my factory

[minor vale]

by planning it

[stuck grove]

Darn

[minor vale]

and covering the world in concrete (foundations)

[white dawn]

Make a design, plan it awhile... execute, make mistakes, learn from it

[sharp sentinel]

I know I'm going to drive myself crazy doing it, but I guess tomorrow after work I'm going to work on building a railway from Blue Crater to Grassy Plains.

[minor vale]

As some one who built a railway from the dune desert
To the rocky desert, to the plains

use blueprints where you can
pre set up intersections you want to make
Railway supports
that sort of thing

It will save you a lot of time.

[warped pawn]

your gonna go insane

[sharp sentinel]

I have never used blueprints in my 192 hours, so I guess this will be an interesting time to try.

[minor vale]

my railway+highway project was also the first time I used blueprints.
It saved me a lot of time.
(and yes... that railway was also a car highway.)

[primal haven]

rail blueprints are awesome

[sharp sentinel]

For the longest I thought blueprints were like, on some server and you saw ones from multiple players. I didn't realise it was per person.

[warped pawn]

does ammo count if its in a dimensional depot?

[minor vale]

it's per save actually
if you have multiple saves, your blueprints will only exist in the save you made them in.

[elder apex]

You can symlink the blueprint folder each save creates back to a single folder and the blueprints will co-exist between saves

works great when you edit blueprints in a creative mode game to use in other games

[warped pawn]

how much items can a train with 4 freght cars transfer/m?

[minor vale]

per train car
slightly less than the max throughput of the 1-2 belts you put on the input/output.

[leaden ether]

Aso depends heavily on the distance the train has to travel (and return)

[severe perch]

anyone noticed you can go at supersonic speeds now when slide jumping?

[minor vale]

Yea it's fun

[primal haven]

I couldnt tell if that was new or not

its crazy fast

[cursive crane]

How new? Didnt notice anything the other day

Like I know it changed with 1.0 or update 8

[minor vale]

I'm pr etty sure it's a 1.1 change.

[primal haven]

i think the top speed is faster or something, after like a half dozen hops its really fast

its faster than trucks im pretty sure

[cursive crane]

Hmm

Then again I havent really been using it, hypertube cannons and hoverpack ftw lol

[minor vale]

it's absolutely faster than trucks

unless you're going up a steep hill

[ivory condor]

Its new, it had a lower cap in 1.0, slide and jump is crazy fast now

The devs probably are keeping it in because its funny, I fully support not patching it BTW lol

[cursive crane]

Interesting. Best movement tech out there.

Speaking of trucks, is there any way to copy other saves truck routes? One would think its saved somewhere

[cursive crane]

Slide jumps been a thing since well before full release. Its definetely an actual feature not a bug. Community would rebel

[minor vale]

yes, you can save and load truck routes

but you have to actually save them.
completing a route and letting a truck run isn't saving it's route.

you also cannot use tractor routes on trucks and vice versa

[cursive crane]

No, like if I wanted a route you have in your world

[minor vale]

oh, yea i'm not sure if that works.

[ivory condor]

Yes but it was not this fast in 1.0

[cursive crane]

Only thing that would make me use trucks is if I could copy other peoples routes lmao

[ivory condor]

Its a feature to be sure, but it being so much faster is new for 1.1

[minor vale]

look i'm sure you can probably save edit to get a truck route but there will be issues with it.
Since, it's almost guaranteed that the world isn't 100% the same between saves.
Exact truck stop locations, foundations they drive over
Trees removed that they would try to drive thorugh.
it's really not that hard to set it up on your own though.

[cursive crane]

Easily fixed by not saving or making stops invalid, trucks already adapt to changing environment like trees and foundations by teleporting back to the route. So no real problem there that wouldn't be solved by moving a node or two.

Doesn't really matter though, was kinda just hoping someone knew of a folder similar to how blueprints are saved. Would be a more advanced used of it anyway.

[fathom shuttle]

3 nuclear hogs near the node I need…

Only got 80 ammo left too

[minor vale]

nuclear hogs are easy

build foundation platforms in the air above them

ANd then drop nobolisk explosives onto them until they cease

[steady glade]

is there a new bug that make belts not straight?

[lost wagon]

idk if the devs added rare reloads like CoD or if you throwing the rebar gun on the ground to reload is a bug

[spiral dew]

phase 4/aluminum time

[gritty phoenix]

building style curve

[steady glade]

i was using straight more belting from foundation corners to corner but it would veer off to the right and the snap back to the pole

[oak night]

is there anyway to automatically apply a color shade to a certain item when placed?

like i want my belts to always be this shade and mergers to be this one, etc?

[fathom shuttle]

Brooooo

That was absolutely fucking crazy

The swamps are a fucking nightmare holy shit

[cursive crane]

I swear there is but I cant remember the bindings

Its like...right click on the swatch or the building type or something?

I know ive seen some sort of popup for "save this 'xxxx' in hotbar" related to coloring

[oak night]

active swatch?

[steady glade]

on the swatch but it does it for foundations and stuff like tht

[leaden ether]

Youcan set colors for a few broad categories, but basically all machines are one category.

[steady glade]

and pipes

[oak night]

yeah i guess its fine i can set it as standard

the categories are super limited eh

[cursive crane]

I swear theres a way to save it to hotbar.

[oak night]

oh you can i was just hoping to skip having to go back through everything to paint it

setting this swatch as overall standard should cut down on it at least

[fathom shuttle]

The game almost gave me a heart attack so many times

[oak night]

thanks guys, this will increase my efficiency by at least 6.37%

[cursive crane]

I did it accidentily with foundations or something a few days ago might be worth going through the menus right clicking on things lmao

[fathom shuttle]

Like bro, spitting nuclear hogs, uranium deposits, hatchers, giant spiders, spitters, mega spitters, fart rocks and fart flowers

EVERYWHERE

And there is no armor in this game

[oak night]

these mk6 belts are my favorite thing ever

[fathom shuttle]

So a couple of hits and your out

[cursive crane]

Thats why you keep nuts or inhalers on you

[clever hollow]

does anyone have experience with floodlight towers/lighting in general?

[fathom shuttle]

Now I need to find a way to destroy the uranium deposits near the bauxite node

[cursive crane]

Kinda whatcha need

[fathom shuttle]

Can I use bombs for this?

[clever hollow]

do they work for you

[cursive crane]

What are they doing?

[tropic bear]

so ive been playing for 12 hours and have coal power setup but keep rebuilding my factory lol

[fathom shuttle]

On the plus side I got like 200 dna capsules and 120 powershards from this

[cursive crane]

Having used in 1.1 but I wouldnt think they would break that easily lol

[tropic bear]

probably just because i found out because of world grid

[fathom shuttle]

But lessons learned, I’ll keep 2x more rifle ammo on me and I’ll research enhancers

[cyan garnet]

Nope, you have to hand mine them. Hope you’ve got a radiation suit!

[clever hollow]

for me, nothing, I plug them in, the top bit changes colour, but there is no light on the ground

[sour ledge]

hey uh noob question maybe. my cat stepped on my keyboard and now there's a chat box on my screen, and it's kinda stuck there? escape and such don't get rid of it

anyone know what button to hit

[clever hollow]

enter

[sour ledge]

no dice

[fathom shuttle]

… are you serious?

[cursive crane]

Dont need it but have you tried hooking it up to a light control panel?

[fathom shuttle]

Damn

[sour ledge]

like i can play the game but it's just floating there. weirdness

[fathom shuttle]

So from full health how many can I mine?

[hollow vector]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/889015860549787698/1374825876960706702/globe.gif

[white dawn]

Honestly, just wait until you have radiation protection

[cursive crane]

||None|| try it and find out 😉

[fathom shuttle]

Yea but I need aluminum.. like right now

[white dawn]

Any radioactive item in your inventory confers the max possible radiation damage; it's hard to stay on top of it even with inhalers

For now just avoid 'em. :)

[clever hollow]

yeah, occasionally one will work after pressing a random combination of buttons, but then the other ones won't work

since then I've relaunched game, now none of them work lol

even after random button pressing

[fathom shuttle]

So I’ll need to find a different node

[cursive crane]

Got any #screenshots of the setup?
Includint control panel

[white dawn]

Yeah, there's a lot of bauxite on the map

[cursive crane]

Otherwise sounds like something youll have to post in #1038092680493801533

[white dawn]

If the uranium isn't actually blocking the node, you can just run in, slap down the miner, and then run out

[clever hollow]

they are in a cave right now, could be hard to see, but I will try

[west jackal]

why does the explorer feel so much worse now that they updated?

[white dawn]

Can also take advantage of the increased interaction distance while parachuting

[cursive crane]

Shouldnt be that hard to throw a miner down from a distance and hook it up quick without touching the radiation

[west jackal]

well, i suppose i mean from like u8 but still, it feels weird

[tropic bear]

how do you farm dna is it only from killing mobs?

[cursive crane]

Yep. Sloop the remains and the dna

[fathom shuttle]

The place with a lot of islands and rivers is the swamp right? It’s all like this

[west jackal]

its like it has huge turbo lag

[white dawn]

Yeah, radiation doesn't really hurt until it's near max; so long as you don't get too close it's usually pretty tankable

[fathom shuttle]

So I was in the titan forest.. not the swap

[cursive crane]

If its really bothering you otherwise you could pick it up into an empty inventory and scim the crate

[fathom shuttle]

Sir you are a genius

Like bro, I just need to find a save haven and build my train station there

[neon hollow]

Real

[fathom shuttle]

Way up in the sky so no one bothers me

[cursive crane]

Kinda cheating and i really do suggest just waiting till you can deal with it with filters and a suit but.. If you must

[minor vale]

make a platform above it all away from the radiation

[neon hollow]

I haven’t even found the forest or swamp but to be fair I haven’t explored half the map yet

[clever hollow]

sent one

[minor vale]

the actual swamp is kind of easy to find.
it's just east of the plains starting zone.

[fathom shuttle]

What do I need to make filters and gas max once I have them unlocked

[minor vale]

you'll want to research how to make fabric from oil products so you can automate filters.

otherwise radiation based filters unlock at the appropriate tier with uranium and stuff.

[west jackal]

how cheaty is no fuel setting in ags?

[fathom shuttle]

What research tree is that

[west jackal]

I mean it IS cheating.. but its frustrating to always be getting out and putting more coal in my car

[minor vale]

mycelia

[minor vale]

are you at steel tier yet?

[west jackal]

si

[fathom shuttle]

I need geyser how do I get that

[white dawn]

The real question is: do you care if it's cheating?

[fathom shuttle]

I always wondered how but I never got any

[white dawn]

It's your own game, play it however you like, etc. :)

[west jackal]

ive unlocked everything in tier 1-4 except some stuff from a mod

[minor vale]

then why not research alien technology in the MAM and just have biofuel constantly uploading to your cloud storage?

[west jackal]

the only mod is a zoop mod

[minor vale]

mycelium is something you get by chainsawing mushroom like things.

[fathom shuttle]

Ohh

[west jackal]

biofuel?? but then i have to actually gather it

[minor vale]

you gather it once
Dump it into a box
And let an automated setup produce tons and tons of solid biofuel
which is contantly uploading to the dimensional depot thaty ou can pull from at any time.

[fathom shuttle]

That’s a task for future me, tomorrow I’ll build the train station, aluminum production and unlock the gas masks and filters

Btw hazmat suits are for radiation right?

[minor vale]

yes

[fathom shuttle]

Gas masks are for the fart rocks

[minor vale]

yes
But you also need radiation filters

[west jackal]

i need to figure out that dimensional depot thing, its new

[fathom shuttle]

Are they unlocked in the nuclear tier?

[minor vale]

Mercer spheres, alien technology in the MAM tree, and SAM

[minor vale]

You unlock everything you need to survive radiation in nuclear tier yes, but crafting radiation resisting filters requires the normal filters, so you'll want to research mycelium so you can, well have the base gasmask firstly, and turn oil into fabric for the filters so you can automate it as well.

[steady glade]

you should go visit the red jungle, it looks reaally cute there and there's a lot of mycellium

[neon hollow]

Anyone know how to vertical nudge I see the option but when I do page up or down like it says it still just nudges it forward

[fathom shuttle]

Alr got it

[fathom shuttle]

Is it the pink one?

[steady glade]

yea, the one way high west, near the beaches and oil fields

[minor vale]

it's also worth saying that a lot of plants that give mycelium can actually look like oddly shaped rocks.

[fathom shuttle]

Before I sink all this time into the resesrch tree I’ll try placing the miner from far away and belt the outputs over

But then I can’t OC it…

I’ll probably need a couple of suicide runs to OC it right

[west jackal]

do splitter settings persist when using blueprints?

[fathom shuttle]

I’ll start looking for them

[west jackal]

i.e. should i have 2 blueprints saved one for copper and one for iron where the splitters have which output should have what

or just any/overflow/any so that its universal?

[minor vale]

Unless you're trying to sort individgual items in a system, gennerally speaking, any and overflow account for most cases.

[west jackal]

does it persist with blueprints?

[undone yarrow]

Blueprints remember splitter settings

[west jackal]

perfect! thank you

[fathom shuttle]

Do trains lose speed on 2m ramps?

[minor vale]

not much

[cursive crane]

I will say once you can make them, you dont need many to take care of something like that, so you dont need a fully automated factory, just a few filters.
But you will eventually need automation

[minor vale]

they'll loose a tiny bit of speed on any incline. but it's not much (unless it's like 4 meter slopes and you have a bunch of cars or something)
And you can't exactly stop it so it's nothing to worry about.

[fathom shuttle]

Kind of like packaged fuel then, neat

[fathom shuttle]

I’m keeping a 4 cars per locomotive limit

I’ll run 2 trains probably

[minor vale]

I mean if you're only going for 2 meter inclines max, you can use a few more if need be.

and you can always add a second train engine

or third.
or five.

[steady glade]

is it even possible to go much more than 2?

limit is like 2.4 right?

[undone yarrow]

For whatever its worth, you only need 5/min per person to never run out

[minor vale]

I thought it was 4 meter inclines.

[steady glade]

lemme test that

yeah no thats too steep