satisfactory

[next umbra]

700m of conveyor aint too bad

[stark solar]

Trains and drones are kinda fiddly and not everyone wants to engage with those parts of the game.

[hard ivy]

they're more effort than conveyors and don't do anything conveyors can't

[stark solar]

drones need fuel and don't carry a lot. Trains require you to build train lines, which can be a lot of resources and stuff.

[meager herald]

how are they more effort exactly? arent the yautomated

do they need electricity/fuel?

[green fiber]

its the building part and fuel, yes

[stark solar]

For some people trains are actually part of the fun of the game.

[next umbra]

you have to do the pathing yourself first yes

[hard ivy]

fuel. plus recording the route

[green fiber]

road vehicles and drones need fuel
trains need infrastructure

[white dawn]

They need to be supplied with fuel, yes, and recording the route in a way that's "good" can take some practice

[trim vine]

Several reasons:

They work well when you dont have them rendered in, but if you have a lot of them, and you are in the area, the bumps start happening

Second, Trucks and Tractors are good for stuff in a single biome, rarely will you cross biomes with them. With that in mind, you're better off building belt highways to factories within the same biomes anyway.

They also use fuel, which is another logistics chain to have to worry about, and by the time you scale up to the point where it aint a big deal, trains are a thing

[white dawn]

Though personally I'd rather do that than run kilometers of belts. :)

[sterile blade]

I have yet to find the button to make conveyors honk

[deep shuttle]

when i last played (a couple days ago) there was only an option to rotate the branch but not flip it, leading to it only being possible to split front and left but never front and right (also leading to it only merging front and right but not merging front and left, and i dont believe you can rotate around an axis that would flip it either

[white dawn]

Plus then you get lots of fun vehicles trundling around the map on their own. It's great!

[trim vine]

I will say though, again, @swift kernel showed me their world and the trucks/tractors DO work very well

I just dont like them

[white dawn]

Yeah, personal preference definitely plays a big part in what logistics you build out. :)

[next umbra]

i build road just so I myself can travel the world

[ivory condor]

Time to refund the game

[stark solar]

I think Satisfactory collects a lot of players who are very strong-willed do-it-myself organise-things-obsessively types. And we don't all play the same way.

[next umbra]

Shhhh youll scare us

[white dawn]

Vehicles partially get a bad rap because there was a period in EA where vehicles could deadlock, which made them not great for reliable production lines. That basically can't happen nowadays, though.

[lost wagon]

true, belts should honk if they get stuck

[green fiber]

theres 2 kinds of rotation:
before you click once and after you click once.
after clicking once so it snaps to the hypertube, you can scroll to rotate it around the pipe.
that way you get front and left or front and right

[winter bloom]

Train states "there is no path" despite having already gone said path and the path just being "forward". It's a two-headed train.

[white dawn]

(Just make sure to delete any blue "pause node" after recording a track, if you accidentally paused for a bit while recording. Vehicles can deadlock on those)

[stark solar]

Maybe the game needs geese, to add more honking.

[next umbra]

trains dont go either or direction only 1 direction 😄

[white dawn]

two-headed trains can go in either direction. :)

[next umbra]

Oh?

[trim vine]

build a two lane track and make loops, single track trains have sooooo many problems

[deep shuttle]

going to try this but before i do i only remember scrolling toggling between the two previously mentioned states rather that properly 'rotating' the pipe

[stark solar]

If they add quantum trains they could go in both directions.

[deep shuttle]

oh wait i read it again nvm that makes a LOT more sense... thanks

[green fiber]

every buildable in the game that needs 2 clicks to build usually has a seperate movement mode that becomes active if you click once to lock it in place

[distant pulsar]

you can try using valves and buffers

[ivory condor]

I would strongly recommend never making single track trains, there is no repathing and you can easily deadlock trains

[green fiber]

Try using the power of forced labor friendship

[next umbra]

I just build road to build road #screenshots message

[delicate nymph]

why are cloud uploaders finite

[white dawn]

There is a clever signalling solution to allow two trains to operate on the same single-track system, though I don't know if you can scale it up to three+

[delicate nymph]

any way to get more of em

[white dawn]

(though yes, I'd also recommend dual-track solutions. :)

[hard ivy]

you can technically scale bi-di as much as you want, but eventually you're gonna end up with one train every hour. the throughput of bi-di is terrible

[trim vine]

@ivory condor aint wrong when he's right

I have 100's of hours of working with trains, have helped a ton of people, and STILL occasionally run into glitches with trains

And, without fail, anyone who does single lane tracks who has asked for help, it hasnt gone well to say the least

[open tree]

single track being a loop? or a single track being a single train that runs on a single track with an empty hold?

[trim vine]

When you build tracks, I highly recommend making a BP that allows you to place two lanes next to each other, so any number of trains can go in a single direction, both ways.

This model allows you to scale up the number of trains in a given network with little to no interference.

Just ensure you place block signals going in both directions each time you place a BP down to keep trains moving and grooving

[peak wasp]

Got steel automated again

[trim vine]

And by next to each other, I mean 1 foundation of space between them. So the BP would have 3 foundational widths with the middle being blank, and the outer edges being where the track is

[hard ivy]

you can do 2 foundations wide, but the turns need to be tight

[trim vine]

correct, though I like the extra width for newer players to avoid those kind of hard restrictions

Once you get good funamentals down, you can play with the tight tracks, which look awesome

[simple echo]

I’ll just ignore that and keep malding whenever my trains stop to stare longingly into each other’s eyes

[hard ivy]

just don't put signals on the bi-di parts

[simple echo]

I did eventually just separate the tracks way sooner and it works so far

[proper cradle]

my slooping is working perfectly other than for project part. Any one else having issues here also? Put in enough parts to make 1000 of the smart plating (500 reinforced iron plates and 500 rotors with sloops doubling it), came out to just shy of 900 made.

[hard ivy]

sloops only take effect after one cycle has been completed. but <900/1000 sounds like you didn't put in enough

[simple echo]

I lost out on a few power shards bc I kept forgetting that

[proper cradle]

no i did, i didn't turn on the machine till i had 500 of each. both ran out. also running without mods atm.

[simple echo]

Whatever, once I finish my nuclear setup and quadruple check if it works, I’ll automate the shards

[proper cradle]

if you pick the recipie after you have the shards in there it will double the first one also

[hard ivy]

you should've gotten 999 if you didn't have the assembler run a cycle with sloops in before making the smart plating

[proper cradle]

agreed, should have. it was working like that until i went to build my coal power plant that is far from where i am. when i came back it was way off. just finished at 877

still will take that over having to supply the 1k of each but was seeing if any one else was having this issue. my pc has a lot of ghosts in it and prob just something on my end.

[simple echo]

Is making alien power matrices to enhance the augmented worth it or is it just a flex?

[hard ivy]

it's not like you only used 1/2 sloops, because then you would've gotten 749

[hard ivy]

if you have a few hundred GW of raw production, yes. otherwise no

[simple echo]

So not until I decide to make a 100 nuclear powerplants bc I can

[hard ivy]

the break even point is around 90 GW, but they're so expensive that you want to more than just barely break even

and that's from SFTools so different recipes and different clock speed will change the power consumption

[proper cradle]

yea 2/2 sloops. and it was going perfectly till i was over 1/2 way across the map

[gentle jacinth]

i found pure sam but it was like all the way across the map and ive just been placing conveyors

this has to be some form of torture method 💔

[hard ivy]

there's almost certainly a closer node

pick up a stack by hand or portable miners and unlock scanning

unless you specifically want pure

[gentle jacinth]

i want the pure one

[ivory condor]

I do that to

[trim vine]

then develop infrastructure closer to that node

[deep shuttle]

do the 3 way hypertube splitters prioritize turning left

like by default

[trim vine]

what did you mean?

[gentle jacinth]

limited storage on the dimensional storage depot thingy

[proper cradle]

still no nice way to remove random uranium outcrops?

[white dawn]

Well they need some downside to balance them a bit. :)

[trim vine]

Well, its not finite, the stack size is just limited, but if shits being uploaded, its infinite

[spiral dew]

#screenshots message any tips to make building railroads less tedious?

mostly just having to build support pillars that takes forever

[trim vine]

Two things:

For the love of future larken, make a two lane track

Use Blueprints

[spiral dew]

one track is ok for my purposes rn but def in the future

for bps, just basically 2 raised pillars with rails in the middle?

[dapper arrow]

I'm playing 1.1 on Linux MInt, through Steam/Proton, and there's no game audio or music at all. I have checked that the audio is enabled in-game and turned up, and audio works in other programs, including other Windows games run through Proton. When I look in the system audio mixer, it also does show FactoryGame as an audio source, that just doesn't play anything.
Any suggestions to what might be the cause, or ideas for fixes?

[primal haven]

if you turn your support pillars into blueprints with rails on top, you can auto-connect the rails and speed it up

[trim vine]

So, you say that, but then you will have to go retrofit every single single track lane you have built

[trim vine]

Make a BP, make it two lane, and then easy peasy

Tagged you in a screenshot as well of my low profile one

[spiral dew]

looks good

[trim vine]

and if you ever need to elevate it, just vertically build some 4m foundatinos and you good

[primal haven]

you can add a hypertube to it easily too if you want to

[trim vine]

Is there a way, when uploading my save to the SCIM, to, by default, not show any infrastructure?

Like, having it upload with all my foundations and shit built is causing it to crash more often than not

[elder apex]

yes, Options/Map Options/Bottom Panel (interactive map)

it will still load all the information though, just won't show the things you ignore by default

[trim vine]

Damn, I legit missed that, thank you, sir

[proper cradle]

sigh time for another herb run, lol osrs...

[bright magnet]

heh got the achievement of going faster than 140km/h by sliding on a mk3 belt

[open tree]

I cant get my rotation to adjust finer than 45deg rotations

[spiral dew]

the auto connect for railroad bps is already a game changer, although i do wish it would max out more of the connection distance between the rails

[fluid sapphire]

quick question regarding splitters on lifts: is the black panel the back and the shiny part the front? so if i am looking at the black panel, the output to my left is the left output? or is it the opposite

[gentle jacinth]

just sinked like all of my iron ingots because storage was full

[ivory condor]

Imo it was needed, like making station bps was pointless, as they basically didn't work

[lapis marlin]

guys can someone explain this
The setup:

a - a - a - a <- b <- w
| | | | |
b - b - b - b -- +

a - 150 water -> 180 Alumina Solution
b - 180 Alumina Solution -> 105 Water
w - 180 Water
b - water buffer

The front refinaries (a) take 600 water, the back refinaries (b) makes 420
plus the 180 water from extractors (w) should even out.

Yet for some reason the buffer fills to full and the production stops...

[sharp geode]

first probably wrong guess: a misplaced mk1 pipe

[hard ivy]

without dynamic supply, any fluctuation in scrap production for any reason will cause the buffer to fill slowly

[lapis marlin]

what fluction, i mean constant supply of items, and i remove all items instantly

[fossil coral]

you can build upwards in this game I assume with the third dimension, how many "floors" roughly can you get?

[gentle jacinth]

just a quick question because iven never made anything like that, does the production create anything solid?

[open tree]

Spoiler for max height: ||You can build up past the rings of the Space elevator.....||

[lapis marlin]

yes of course i just mention the fluis bcs thats what cousing the issue

[gentle jacinth]

another question do you have an output for the solids? that can also be cause since i was trying to get fuel a while ago and i had to make a storage for the resin

[lapis marlin]

no every item is pulled out so that never backs up

also the fill of the buffer is along a a very long time

[fossil coral]

kinda funny, musta been taking care of my infant when the game mentioned the equipment bench so I totally missed portable miners for a long time

pain

[trim vine]

how were you mining?

[fossil coral]

by hand 👀

I was like surely I must get a miner soon

so unlocked the miner, and then looked at the prereq for the miner

[knotty crow]

what do i need to remove the cracked boulder looking things?

[fossil coral]

and was like oh, oh no

[hard ivy]

explosives

[knotty crow]

oh yeah makes sense

[trim vine]

As a newer player, please listen to this one piece of advice:

First, everything except biomass can be 100% automated (and even biomass can get very close)

Second, your priorities in this game, for the whole game, will be as follows:

1. Power Grid, isolated and ideally a little ways away from factories
2. Aggressive MAM research, you should be nose deep in the MAM at all times pushing unlocking stuff and scanning hard drives
3. Whatever you want

[trim vine]

[fossil coral]

ok so hard drives are found by exploring and killing things?

[trim vine]

crash sites

[lyric grail]

hay dose anyone want to see my world

[hard ivy]

all of the MAM stuff requires exploration

[fossil coral]

I've beaten factorio so not new to the genre but just wrapping my head around how satisfactory does it

cool

[knotty crow]

black powder isnt enough?

[lyric grail]

hay dose anyone want to see my world i and i can show you how to do anything

[hard ivy]

you can't explode just the powder

[trim vine]

For example; at the moment, to make screws you need first craft iron bars and then make screws

There is an alt recipe that ||allows you to take just iron ingots and make it into screws, called a Cast Screw|| and by collecting alt recipes, you can be much, much more efficient

[hard ivy]

#1201555265942724758

[trim vine]

Do you have any way to ignite the black powder?

[lyric grail]

no you need to craft it into bombs

[hard ivy]

or explosive rebar

[lyric grail]

true

[trim vine]

I know, it was asking a question to make someone think of the answer 😛

[lyric grail]

what sorry i am dxlexic i can not understand what you jest said sorry its jest hard for me to understand when people talk like that can you simplify it

[trim vine]

I believe in you

[lyric grail]

thx man i people get after me for my voice and writeing thx for not puting me down

[gentle jacinth]

how do i make the car faster

[trim vine]

better fuel types will add some speed, but most speeds are kinda set, within maybe 20 extra km/h

Recommendation: Hypertube cannons are the fastest mode of travel

[lyric grail]

i use one to lanch me across the map or i jest use portles

[hard ivy]

does the speed of trucks really depend on fuel?

[trim vine]

Just.

Portals.

❤️

[loud vault]

im watching the vid where game it out makes a 600 meter tube to launch the player. the absolute spaghetti mess he got going on made my head hurt

[trim vine]

I believe so, but I dont use them a ton

But I did notice a slight speed increase on the explorer when I switched from Solid Biofuel to turbofuel

[bright magnet]

brother are u stalking me im also watching that video

[gentle jacinth]

how do i make a cannon with a hypertube

[trim vine]

Spaghetti is real, and perfectly fine, just not the way I like to play 😛

[trim vine]

check screenshots in like 2 seconds

[lyric grail]

who here knows if you put plotoneum fuel cell in a dron you do not need to fuel it again

[loud vault]

i didnt know this game was mad old, i feel super late to the party now

[bright magnet]

also do i need the pipe pump along long tubes or just for upwards

[trim vine]

just on elevation starting at around 10m above source location

[tall lantern]

you will eventually, they don't last forever. The real protip is you get no waste from it

[lyric grail]

ok thx

[bright magnet]

hmm ok im struggling on bringing water from Quartz on beginner area to the beginner area and i thought the physics were changed that needed pumps to carry the water

[gentle jacinth]

im still confused im not good at instructions

[proper cradle]

yea going to have to try reinstalling satisfactory, not only do i have that sloop issue, but also destroyed rock debris doesn't go away and hatchers dont attack (have them hostile).

[trim vine]

Think kinda like in the real world, liquids will flow along a pipeline, and only need help when goign up elevation.

Recommendation to you is to bring solids, such as coal/quartz/etc TO water, versus water to them

[bright magnet]

hmm but i do prefer have everything in 1 spot but ill take care of that tomorrow my head hurts

[trim vine]

For example, spoilers, ||Assuming you mean the grasslands when you say beginner area, there is a lake to the NW in the biome, it has 4 coal nodes and is right next to a lake. You should be building your first real power plant there, then running power back to your "main" area||

[lyric grail]

hay if you want to see insaity look at the screanshot chat

i think something is wrong i am runing at only 30 fps when i look at my main area

[solemn glacier]

i run 30 fps normally

how do you stay sane looking at/building that

[lyric grail]

i have ADHD

its fine

thats not all

[trim vine]

So do I and that makes my knees sweat

And you're trying to show people how to do things in the game xD

[lyric grail]

i have 2 more power plants across the map no its jest my base is hopeless

i can no longer spawn in i am jest trapped

[trim vine]

Just*

And its not hopeless, just need to spend more than 2 seconds running belts places

[lyric grail]

here hold up a sec

look at the new scream shot thats my plastic plant

i ran oil across the map

[trim vine]

Screen*

[lyric grail]

sorry

but its all a mess

[reef basin]

don't use buffers and don't mix fresh and recycled water

[gentle jacinth]

is there anything below the big waterfall

[reef basin]

probably water

[lyric grail]

its a miracle its jest water YESSSSSSSS

[solemn glacier]

be carefaul when jumping from waterfalls tho

[loud vault]

lol. we all have that one game back in the dawn of our gaming life where we found a secret thing behind a waterfall and now every one is suspect..😆

[trim vine]

-stares at slightly off colour rock intently-

[solemn glacier]

i almost died when I ran out of fuel and when I fell the water wasnt watering

[lyric grail]

can someone help me with my aluminum plant its so broken and i really need help

[hard ivy]

#1038092680493801533

[reef basin]

#1038092680493801533 share images and describe problem

[gentle jacinth]

i just strapped a lizard doggo with like 20 bombs

[hard ivy]

... congratualtions?

[gentle jacinth]

i accidentally hit it no more lizard dog thing

[left arrow]

but they are friends!

[hardy harbor]

Anyone know where to report a bug?

[fossil ice]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @hard ivy

[hard ivy]

^

[hardy harbor]

Thanks

[solemn glacier]

how do you make the bot do that

[hard ivy]

!qa

[left arrow]

I'm not asking for advice, as I'm already 90% of the way done... but how many coal generators is too many?

[hardy harbor]

Domino, any amount once you go nuclear or fuel

[hard ivy]

I'd say 50

by that point you can def do fuel

[solemn glacier]

thx, is there a list somewhere with all the commands?

[hardy harbor]

I repurposed mine once fuel was available

[fathom shuttle]

24 for me were enough to get me to fuel power

[hard ivy]

not that I know of

[left arrow]

I feel very vindicated right now. #screenshots message

[fathom shuttle]

^help

[left arrow]

That's exactly 50 😂

[fathom shuttle]

!help

[fathom shuttle]

Yea just type this for all the commands

The bot will dm

[solemn glacier]

k

I just found that you can do /help

[gentle jacinth]

how many bombs is too many bombs

[fathom shuttle]

A quadrillion

[loud vault]

your fps will let you know

[hard ivy]

!help

[solemn glacier]

nvm this actually dosent work

[left arrow]

In 1.1 my FPS tanks on 1 bomb on the wrong stone, so...

[solemn glacier]

!help

!help

[gentle jacinth]

i just evaporated my cart

[left arrow]

I probably should get around to submitting a few bug reports, but wow searching through all the existing reports to avoid making a duplicate is a pain.

I sympathize with the devs.

[solemn glacier]

type the topic into the bar when you start a post, and it will give you a list of similar topics.

[left arrow]

Wanna report a bug with mergers? Here's 100 existing reports with the word merger in the title. Wanna report a bug with lag, here's 100 threads about lag in unrelated circumstances...

that's the tedious part :/

[viral tendon]

#screenshots message What do we think about my pipe production for bombs

[gentle jacinth]

i dropped my factory cart

[viral tendon]

Cool

[gentle jacinth]

in the big ol waterfall

[left arrow]

😬 🍝

[viral tendon]

Why did you insert pasta emoji

[gentle jacinth]

oh yeah that factory cart is GONE

[viral tendon]

A little skill issue i think

[left arrow]

Belt spaghetti makes me grind my teeth.

[viral tendon]

I tried making it nice

It was pretty much impossible after those ingots makers

[gentle jacinth]

probably wasnt the best idea to strap it with bombs and then see if something was down there

[solemn glacier]

it would be cool if they had something where you type out the content of the question, then parsed it through some ai then looked at the Qs on the list generated by the topic
too complicated
you could probably run your problem through perplexity.ai and ask it if there is a post on the qa site already about it

[viral tendon]

The wrorst thing that to make smokeless powdah i need refinery and oil , wihch i don't have near my sulfur miner

It's going to be a pain in the as

[lime ermine]

Use trains

That's what I did

[viral tendon]

It says there's no path so i can't really tell them to transport resources on their own

[onyx owl]

hi chat
im having an issue in satisfactory where im trying to host a game on steam and it says connection to steamworks needed. i bought the game on steam and playing it on steam, and when i try to boot the world up when i changed the multiplayer settings, it wont load up due to me appearing "offline" when i am clearly online
help pls

[lapis marlin]

I realised that, but now its too late to change the design, so i have to make it work

[reef basin]

it won't though

[lucid pagoda]

is there a way to have a manifold with multiple inputs? i have 3 480 belts and a 120 belt that need to be split among 26 packagers? my highest speed belt is 480

[stark solar]

It's never too late to change the design of something

[reef basin]

at least not reliably

[red linden]

Where are the pictures made with picture mode saved?

[reef basin]

just run one manifold per belt

[reef basin]

#faq

[primal haven]

it can work with recycled water mixed back in

[hard ivy]

if it's diluted packaged fuel, it's best to use 0 splitters and 0 mergers for the canisters

[solemn glacier]

satisfactory using EOS for multi, not steamworks

report it on the qa site

[lapis marlin]

I have 16 Floors of the same design each containg this, trust me its too late

[fossil ice]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @solemn glacier

[onyx owl]

how do i change that? i have both steam satisfactory and epic, but im using steam

[lucid pagoda]

ah, im a lil too far gone for that, im on the last packagers, the ones that unpackage the fuel

[stark solar]

It really isn't too late. Blueprints are there to help you build fast

[solemn glacier]

idk

[onyx owl]

omds

[lapis marlin]

even with blueprints it would take like 2-3 days

[solemn glacier]

try hosting over epic (set it in session settings)

[primal haven]

could try underclocking your water gens incrementally until its not backed up anymore

[hard ivy]

it's never too late

[onyx owl]

it says a network connection is required

but i clearly am connected to internet

im using discord on the same computer

im gonna try restarting the game

[lapis marlin]

i guess so, but i bet then it would underperform

[onyx owl]

ok restarting the game fixed it

mb chat

[reef basin]

we're not chat, this is not twitch

[viral tendon]

Then what is it?

Channel or what

[onyx owl]

what else do i use to refer to all of the people i have talked too without spesifically mentioning them

[reef basin]

thanks people

[hard ivy]

if you can't be bothered to change anything, just do a 4:4 balancer or smt

[hard ivy]

everyone?

[viral tendon]

What do i do if my train says no path when i try to set off schedule for it to ride when i need

[hard ivy]

just don't @

[onyx owl]

No

chat is better

[solemn glacier]

yall

[left arrow]

Hope my comment about belt spaghetti wasn't taken too harshly, I follow a pretty strict aesthetic.
Belts and pipes at the center of foundations, splitters/mergers almost every time a belt needs to turn.

[lucid pagoda]

y'all

[lucid pagoda]

i fucked with it enough to find a decent looking way of doin it

[hard ivy]

station facing the wrong way probably

[solemn glacier]

or bad blocks

[hard ivy]

then it'd say signal issue

[primal haven]

i think the main trap is that if you dont properly sink the outputs related, it will cause the water and items to backup

[fathom shuttle]

How viable is it to transfer water over like 500-1000m?

Building ontop of the lake was a mistake

[solemn glacier]

depends on the terrain

[vagrant oar]

"mb gang"

is what I say

[viral tendon]

We're not in hood 😭

[vagrant oar]

wrong

[left arrow]

I'm Canadian and say "y'all" but English is my second language so I'm influenced by many dialects.
Wonder where I picked "y'all" from though, 'cause I don't think I listen to many southern americans.

[primal haven]

the real question is how to not make it look like an ugly sky bridge

[solemn glacier]

just use trains

[primal haven]

true, you can package it or use fluid cars

[left arrow]

I say, when something looks out of place in the middle of nowhere, make it bigger.

[hard ivy]

I picked it up because people keep writing it as ya'll and I was wondering wtf does "ya will" mean

[left arrow]

Oh dear, typos like these must be hell for someone with dyslexia trying to learn English online x)

[lapis marlin]

i do sink everything, its not an item issue

[primal haven]

I think you can prioritize the recycled water by putting the pipes lower than the fresh water

[languid arrow]

anyone found a dupe glictch for 1.1 they fixed factory cart dupe glitch

[hard ivy]

yes, it's called Advanced Game Settings

[languid arrow]

but my achievments

[hard ivy]

SCIM then

[languid arrow]

wat

[solemn glacier]

its in the faq

[hard ivy]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

[solemn glacier]

(SCIM, not the dupe glitch)

[hard ivy]

there should be command for this (and tools)

[fathom shuttle]

Apparently it’s 1600/min, and I’ll need 2400/min rip

[hard ivy]

it's 1600 m3 of capacity, not 1600 m3/min

[fathom shuttle]

Yea I know I just counted the round trip time between the two places, and it’s not really viable for me

[hard ivy]

you can just use more trains/wagons

[languid arrow]

THE CHOO?!?!?!?

[solemn glacier]

THE CHOOO!!!!!!!!

[viral tendon]

How tf do i use fluid platform

[primal haven]

can use containers as buffers on the train stations too

[swift goblet]

Hello...I am in need of advice. One of my train stations is mixing products. steel beams are found in the steel pipe and motors are found in the steel beam. Any thoughts?

[solemn glacier]

redo the conveyors feeding the platforms

[hard ivy]

like the item platform, but with fluids

[viral tendon]

I never used it

[swift goblet]

@solemn glacier👍

[hard ivy]

make sure that if 2 trains dock to the same station, they aren't unloading 2 different items into the same platform

[swift goblet]

@hard ivy it's just two trains with six cars dedicated to go back and forth on simple track opposed to a dynamic one.

[viral tendon]

It doesn't work

[south onyx]

i am today years old that you could add splitters to conveyer lifts

[lime ermine]

whats the problem?

[hard ivy]

it was added 10 days ago

[viral tendon]

The problem is it doesn't work

[south onyx]

oh

[lime ermine]

like how

[viral tendon]

Like it doesn't

[lime ermine]

can you not connect the pipes? are the cars not filling?

[south onyx]

that makes sense i only started playing 1.1 yesterday

[viral tendon]

It just doesn't accept fluid and it doesn't give it

[lime ermine]

did you check to make sure there was fluid coming to it?

[viral tendon]

What did i just say

[faint epoch]

hello

[lime ermine]

make a post in #1038092680493801533 with some screenshots, that wouold make this easier to understand

[viral tendon]

I can't ghet any clearer by saying it doesn't accept fluid

[hard ivy]

prolly connected to the output port

[lime ermine]

i get what you're saying but I'd like to see the setup, sometimes it's built wrong

[faint epoch]

anyone want to help me with a build preferbly good at building and chill?

[viral tendon]

No

[hard ivy]

#1201555265942724758

[hard ivy]

is it powered?

[viral tendon]

I believe so

[peak wasp]

forgot how tedius power shard collecting was in early stages of the game.

[hard ivy]

rush blade runners and parachute

[frozen ingot]

i find myself compelled to collect slugs if i see them, particularly early game, so i never have an issue

[steady glade]

check if the machine has the No power message, then check the imput pipe

[viral tendon]

I unlocked jetpack before parachutes

[frozen ingot]

also you can sloop them now and get twice the shards

[viral tendon]

How can i be more clear

[peak wasp]

I'm 6 hours in and at tier 2 space elevator but power shards and somer sloop collecting

also needing mercer spheres

[viral tendon]

it's connect to the gird, it's not using output pipe, it's working, it has electricicy, it's doesn't have no power message, it does have power

[sullen gull]

How about a screenshot of the machine UI.

[steady glade]

and of the input pipe

[sullen gull]

ANd maybe of the piping you have going to it.

[steady glade]

my money's on wrong recipe/wrong fluid

[sullen gull]

It should not expected of us to "guess" what is going on. That's how you can be more clear.

[viral tendon]

What's going on is it's not working

[trim vine]

Going to get dinner then I finally get to start turning on the segments of my Rocket Fuel plant, which will produce 8k rocket fuel and make just shy of 500 GW of power 😛

#screenshots message

[viral tendon]

#screenshots message

[hard ivy]

I feel like with that attitude, you don't deserve help

[sullen gull]

Well, then don't expect to continue to recieve help when you don't want to help us help.

[viral tendon]

Well then don't help i will be fine without your help

[viral tendon]

I mean alr, i will be fine without it

[trim vine]

What are you trying to do?

[steady glade]

we're trying to help, pictures are generally much easier to diagnose than explanations

[steady glade]

trying to fill up a fluid freight

[sullen gull]

Unless lt's just a method to just troll 🤷‍♂️

[trim vine]

Well thats his first problem, dont ever use fluid freights

[steady glade]

im assuming the pipe goes up into the platform, and its not full

[hard ivy]

which is so simple nobody should need help with that

[viral tendon]

Wow, so 1 group of people tell me to use trains and others tell me to don't, peak

[steady glade]

specifically fluid freights

[viral tendon]

Must have not been clear enough, to use trains to transport fluid

[sullen gull]

Makes no sense to continue to assume. They just want to be combative about everything. Was the say way yesterday

[trim vine]

dingleberry, trains are awesome, just move solid freight, not liquid

[hard ivy]

liquid works fine too, just at low throughput

[steady glade]

in most cases you'd rather want to package fluids since you can pack twice as much

[trim vine]

and if the pipe has liquid, its set to load, power is on, and you are sure there is sufficient lift to the station, then you should be good

[viral tendon]

Ofc i will be mad when people ask questions i already answered to

[sullen gull]

However, there is nothing saying you "can't" move liquids that way. Just not usually the most efficient.

[trim vine]

I agree it does work, its just, as you said, inefficient

[trim vine]

What liquid are you trying to move?

[viral tendon]

Purple

[steady glade]

delete the input pipe, and platforms, ensure the platforms snapped to the station, then replace the pipe and check if the pipe can get full

[viral tendon]

I have no idea what's it called

[primal haven]

literally every method works

[sullen gull]

Dude, you are providing no help. You are just saying " it doesn't work"

[stark solar]

Purple? That's a color.

[steady glade]

heavy oil residue

[trim vine]

why on earth would you move HOR via train?

[sullen gull]

Again, this is why we ask for screenshots

[viral tendon]

I need smokeless powder

[sullen gull]

So HOR and black powder

[trim vine]

I will say this to you; bring solids to liquids, not liquids to solids

[stark solar]

May be easier to move your sulphur to the oilfield?

[steady glade]

you should move crude oil instead, since oil -> HOR makes more liquid

[viral tendon]

I'm not trying to move smokeless pwoder

[trim vine]

you will have an easier time moving sulfur and coal to HOR than the other way around

[sullen gull]

That is the recipe you are using. Trying to make it right?

[viral tendon]

You needed screenshot to see what liquid i'm transporting

[trim vine]

Anyway, I'm out, good luck

Do not move purple, move yellow and black to purple

[sullen gull]

OI, nevermind, Good luck

[astral basalt]

Hey if I want to wipe all built structures in the world but keep my current tech level and all fixit store unlocks, how would I go about doing that?

[trim vine]

SCIM

[viral tendon]

WHy on earrth would i need to move smokeless powder after i said i'm moving purple oil

[viral tendon]

Ig i will just package that thing

[steady glade]

yes, we can diagnose whats up with the pipe from the screeen shots of whats inside and how it connects

[trim vine]

Cause the way you are doing it is shite

Moving liquids ainta good idea

[viral tendon]

Or just use kilometers of converyors

[trim vine]

Or make a fucking train station that moves other solids TO your Purple

[viral tendon]

My fucking train stations there is no path

[trim vine]

gg

[steady glade]

@viral tendon could take a picture of the pipe and its contents please

[short pulsar]

I kinda wish they buffed the capacity of fluid trains because they look awesome

[sullen gull]

@trim vine Seriously mate, wouldn't bother.

[viral tendon]

I will jus stick with 3 thousands killometers of converyors

[hard ivy]

it's "pipes remain empty" all over again

[primal haven]

did you check if you just hooked your pipes up to the output instead of the input?

[steady glade]

fine but next time when you have a question, please show your setup instead of just explaining it, and there's a #1038092680493801533 to organise everything

[sullen gull]

It's a tad annoying as they are given suggestions and requests and it's just talk-back every time. They don't want help, they just want to fight.

[viral tendon]

I as a matter of fact do not need help with fluid transfering

[signal flicker]

Is there a place I can report a bug?
There appears to be an off-by-one error in version 418783 when loading a color preset for new map markers. i.e. Selecting combo box index 1 will load the values for index 0, and so on.

[fossil ice]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @hard ivy

[viral tendon]

Just let it fucking go, because you're asking oh did you make sure it's in the irght thing? Did you make sure it has power? Did you make sure it exists?

[prisma forge]

how do I connect blueprints in one click mode?

[reef basin]

it's standard debugging procedure tho

[viral tendon]

Oh, do i keep the conversation going instead of just letting it go???

No!!!!! lemme still continue it!!!

[primal haven]

you could just figure out your problem instead of complaining

[viral tendon]

I answered those questions a thousand times

[steady glade]

and thats where pics would have been great

[sullen gull]

You're the one coming in here whining because something is not working or something is too hard to get. This isn't exactly a "whine-box". If you don't want help, then don't whine, or whatever it is you consider it being.

[reef basin]

and having it in a #1038092680493801533 thread

[viral tendon]

I sent picture of ui of fluid thing and nothing

[stark solar]

Maybe we can stop being so confrontational to people who show up with questions or possible bugs

[reef basin]

with their attitude, I'm surprised they are getting any help

[steady glade]

but that goes both ways

[viral tendon]

Never said something is too hard to get by the way, if you can't help then don't fucking respond, all you can is ask basic questions to make sure i have more than 2.5 braincells

[astral basalt]

OK so I have learned that SCIM is the save editor and I've loaded my save into it. How do I delete all buildings from here? I can't find the setting. I can get lists of my buildings and see them on the map. I want to nuke them all.

[primal haven]

basic troubleshooting is not someone calling you stupid

[viral tendon]

I answered basic troubleshooting questions a lot of tiems

[sullen gull]

Actually, you did, yesterday, with sloops, but anyhow, moving on, You obviousy are having a fluid issue. You have a broken connection some where. Start tracing it back all the way to the source and rebuild

[viral tendon]

I don't need them asked 2 more times

[steady glade]

have you never gotten help from a support desk anywhere? the first questions are always about ensuring that the default procedure was followed, ideally with proof

[fluid sapphire]

there is a select tool on the left hand menu

[steady glade]

then a picture we could refer to would be faster

[primal haven]

the game has a really good photo mode

[steady glade]

is it hard to take a screen cap?

[astral basalt]

so select all, delete, export save (with a new name) and drag it back into my saved games folder?

[viral tendon]

Sloops are objectivly hard to get. My pipes are fuilll, i tried piping inm piping out, using unload and load modes for trains

[sharp sentinel]

Anyone have a good video or guide to stabilising geothermal power?

[prisma forge]

do beams just not auto connect?

[sullen gull]

They sent a picture, 10 minutes ago, but instead of sawing "hey, I posted a picture" they just assumed we're all eargly watching for one apparently .

[astral basalt]

(maybe I'll grab all my sloops before I delete everthing lol)

[primal haven]

ive had issues with trains just not loading till i leave the station and come back around after spawning it

[stark solar]

Cthulhu: So there are 2 main solutions:
A) Batteries
B) Use multiple to balance each other out, and rebuild if their peaks/troughs are sync'd

[steady glade]

its mostly random

[fluid sapphire]

yep, i did something similar before 1.1

[viral tendon]

People asked me questions that i could answer with words, the only question that could be answered with picture is what does ui looks like which i've shown

[hard ivy]

power storage

[sharp sentinel]

Last time I attempted to link them to batteries I still had wild fluctuations.

[steady glade]

we also asked about how the pipe connects and what's in it

[stark solar]

Yes, the battery storage helps cover for the dips

[viral tendon]

I answered that there's purple oil and i tried going both ways out and in

[sullen gull]

Does the train staition have power? is the station backwards, these are all the issues that would cause it and have been suggested many times. And, again, you just continue to belittle and act like the "smart one"

[stark solar]

Let the battery charge most of the way, and run a slight surplus

[viral tendon]

Yes there were liquid in those pipes

[hard ivy]

with batteries you can use the average. without, you can only use the minimum

[fluid sapphire]

geothermal is just unstable, there isnt anything you can do about it, batteries only help cover deficit

[stark solar]

If you can use multiple geothermals, you can rely on some averaging too

[hard ivy]

if you want a flat production graph, do not use geothermal
phase is random, so you can't sync them easily

[viral tendon]

Never said i'm the smart one btw, never tried to act. I already answered about power that yes it does have power, and no it's not backwards

[steady glade]

okay, then can you show the pipe that connect into the freight please? and where the last refinery is?

[stark solar]

Or alternatively you could decide only to use the min of the geothermal

[sharp sentinel]

Hm... Incredible amounts of power, or a flat graph... Brain likes flat graph, but so much power just waiting...

[hard ivy]

10 GW is not "incredible amounts of power" lol
that's half of one pure oil node

[stark solar]

This is another example of real logistics helping us push out of our comfort zone

[sullen gull]

How about a screenshot of the setup. The UI screen for the station. How about some of the pipe sections before?

[viral tendon]

I use fluid storagesto contain purple oil #screenshots message

[steady glade]

he already showed the station's ui #screenshots message

[sullen gull]

Do you have it plumbed to to input and not the output.

[viral tendon]

If it's so hard to notice i've already sent a screenshot of ui which you completely ignored

[steady glade]

so theres the isse

[sullen gull]

No, that is the fluid station. I am asking for the train station it is connected to

[sharp sentinel]

Substantially less effort for a decent amount of power than building a full system to convert oil into fuel and then diverting that to a fuel generator. It's free real estate added into an already decent number.

[steady glade]

the power comes from a train station, the freight platforms don't work if not connected to a station, the same way a machine takes no input without power

[viral tendon]

#screenshots message

[viral tendon]

I literally can't connect it to the train station

[sullen gull]

Looks like you're not connected to a station

[viral tendon]

It's like already powered by rails

[sullen gull]

No

[hard ivy]

bro completely ignored the message when placing a platform and proceeded to delete the station and wonders why nothing works 🤣

[sullen gull]

It has to be connected to a station

[steady glade]

place the train station where the freight platform used to be, place the freight platform behind it

[sullen gull]

Pretty sure it says that in the description. I could be wrong on that one though

Otherwise, the train does not know to stop there.

[steady glade]

you should not have even been able to place the platform without placing the station first, im pretty sure you just deleted the station

[sullen gull]

If you have a really long train, the only way to provide a "buffer zone" is to use empty stations

[hard ivy]

you cannot even fucking place a platform without a station. bro placed a station, attached a platform to it and then removed the station

[sharp sentinel]

Isn't the goal to have a long train, or do most people go for multiple trains?

[sullen gull]

Yeah, I figured I have already been annoying enough to them 😏

[delicate nymph]

when do i unlock the hover pack

[hard ivy]

T7

[delicate nymph]

the turbo fan one

[sullen gull]

Longer trains can be harder to pull

[delicate nymph]

ah k thanks

[sullen gull]

So, I believe most go for shorter trains

[viral tendon]

It didn't work when it was connected so i decided to try to replace it

[hard ivy]

jetpack with liquid biofuel is better than the hoverpack imo tho

[steady glade]

depends, short if the travel is short and goes from one station to the next, long if you take inputs from multiple places or output to a bunch of stataions

[delicate nymph]

it is??

[hard ivy]

all that matters is the ratio of locomotives to wagons I think?

[delicate nymph]

im using that right now

[sharp sentinel]

Is that really an issue in this game?

[sullen gull]

I mean, I have done a 16 car train, not saying it can't be done lol

[delicate nymph]

what does the hoverpack do then?

[stark solar]

It uses electricity to let you float nearby

[sullen gull]

I am honestly not 100% sure. With that 16 car one, I just put two locomotives on front and back lol

[viral tendon]

Still doesn't work tho

[steady glade]

then delete the incoming rail, snap a 2nd freight platform to the 1st, delete the 1st and place a station instead

[sullen gull]

Yes, because you are doing it wrong

[hard ivy]

it allows you to hover infinitely, but only near power poles/connections. But the range sucks imo, so I use the jetpack, which is limited on time but not distance

[sharp sentinel]

Hoverpack is best for working on your factory.

While the jetpack is best for exploring.

[delicate nymph]

ah okay whats the range btw

[tropic plover]

So, probably not a new idea, but I just realised I can use a smart splitter by my fuel refineries.
Make the plastic and rubber and stuff, but because its so far away and I still need to set up proper transport, a smart splitter to an awesome sink for overflow once my storage is full will make sure my power stays online

[sullen gull]

Maybe the size of a 4x4 bpd?

[sharp sentinel]

My previous save is permanently stuck in the sky because I built a giant centralised mess.

[hard ivy]

60ish m. less than a powerline which is why I think it's way too low to be useful

[viral tendon]

Well no shit sherlock

It would work if it did it right

[fathom shuttle]

Damn and no upgrades to range or anything like that?

[delicate nymph]

oh thats no good

[hard ivy]

not without mods

[delicate nymph]

i wish it had a battery or something

[fathom shuttle]

Oh okay

[sharp sentinel]

I wish you could free build hypertube lines.

[steady glade]

beams

[sullen gull]

Yeah, placing power poles everywhere to use a hover pack in a large build is rather annoying

Jetpack+LBF= ❤️

[viral tendon]

I love exploding radioctave hogs

[sharp sentinel]

Not sure I want to commit 20 hours of my life to building one via other things again.

[hard ivy]

liquid biofuel allows for hovering for up to 1 minute without landing and it has terrible vertical acceleration so hovering in place is pretty easy

[sullen gull]

Hahaha, try 100's 🤣

[sharp sentinel]

I only went from Rocky Desert to Grassy Plains in it.

[sullen gull]

Only "best" thing after LBF is ionized.

[steady glade]

place a bunch of blueprints of beams and outlets way up above the floor

[hard ivy]

not for building. the acceleration makes precise movement difficult

[sullen gull]

Yeah/but ... does it fit in with my design thou 😉

[delicate nymph]

how many stacks of biofule should i hold onto

[sullen gull]

This is true.

[sharp sentinel]

I forgot people build things for reasons other than MOAR FACTORY and was like 'Why would a large build not have power higher up?'

[steady glade]

just for the building phase, thats why i said to make it into blueprints, so you can erase them when its time to plug the factory to the network

[hard ivy]

just set up full production from remains, sloop every step and you'll have enough for life from like 25 remains

[fathom shuttle]

Ah shit, my fuel powerplant is only at 29GW/40GW and it fluctuates a lot. I’ve been running around trying to diagnose the issue but it’s a mess idk what to do tbh

[sullen gull]

I just usually have a standard container feed into a dimensional depot. You don't NEED to let the machine run all the time. Especiall after you're on coal power and not doing much gathering anymore.

[sullen gull]

what Fuel?

[steady glade]

are your pipes full?

[fathom shuttle]

Not a lot but by 1/2GWp

[fathom shuttle]

Nah the generators aren’t getting enough fuel

[steady glade]

maybe thats not your fuel plant then

[delicate nymph]

ah that works
need to find sloop though
sad its so limited

[stark solar]

Or you could decide you prefer vertical thrust, never use biofuel for jetpack, and use rocket fuel instead

[delicate nymph]

i wish their was a way to get more once you run out / a working dupe glich

[sullen gull]

Split your flows along your manifold or maybe just adding a loop to the end. That is, if you're producing enough.

[steady glade]

aight then pause the 1st generator of each line for a few minues

[viral tendon]

Geothermal generators gotta be the most situational power generator

[sullen gull]

Rocket fuel doesn't have a long burn time and can lead to too many "Oh shit" moments.

[delicate nymph]

how much power do they make / what tear are they

[sullen gull]

I mean. it's not horrible, but compared to RF, not worth it imo.

[stark solar]

Sure, but rocket fuel is way more useful in navigating terrain

[steady glade]

then recalculate how much fuel you make compared to generators you have

[sharp sentinel]

Time to drive myself inside building train tracks from the dead sea to the forest...

[solemn glacier]

Like how they added artificial power shards

[viral tendon]

Theyre in mam and they make 100 - 300 power, they sometimes have presusre and make 200 or more but most of tyhe time sthey make 100

[stark solar]

And I just don't want to bother with biofuel in my jet pack. You can't even automate production

[hard ivy]

7 GW max usable if you tap all geysers

and they're from the MAM so tier 1 if you try hard enough?

[stark solar]

So I never make liquid biofuel. Zero interest.

[sullen gull]

They fluctuate from a min to a max. They aren't 'stable'

[fathom shuttle]

How do you do it?

[delicate nymph]

ah need a lot of batterys for them if i ever build them

[hard ivy]

you know you can switch fuels, right?

[solemn glacier]

SCIM

[sharp sentinel]

Awww man, rails need a surface to stand on. I forgot that...

[sullen gull]

Honestly not needed, especially with sloops. With slooped machines, you can got and cut down like three trees and probably have enough LBF to last you a month

[solemn glacier]

Just use a temp pillar

[stark solar]

I know I can switch fuels, but biofuel just sounds like a pain in the butt. Rocket fuel has served me very well.

[hard ivy]

only the ends, but yes

[fathom shuttle]

I have 6 at the end of the line that are off, 2 that constantly power on and off

A line of 24 generators

[delicate nymph]

how do i unlock the 5x powerslug constuctor

[steady glade]

they're a late addition, hardly fit between coal and fuel, and are mostly useful to jumpstart a crash pod or tiny factory

[steady glade]

the wjat?

[sharp sentinel]

Well, the thing is I was planning to go across a LOT of open air.

[steady glade]

the puprle slug to power shard recipe?

[delicate nymph]

the one that gives 5 power shards for one slug

[sullen gull]

What fuel? (sorry if I missed that) And what's the total amount you are generating?

[delicate nymph]

ah never mind

[viral tendon]

Am i the only one like using same power grid for literally everything, and i mean everything, even pods

[sullen gull]

Probably not.

[viral tendon]

Is it bad

[sullen gull]

Nah

[fathom shuttle]

Normal fuel, it’s supposed to be 3200/min but idk

[solemn glacier]

No

[sharp sentinel]

I am still on coal power. I'd always thought people implied to me that fuelk power is bad, coal is good. Then again I was playing during EA...

[viral tendon]

Good

[steady glade]

im not pulling power towers across the map while im exploring

[sullen gull]

So, what recipe, have you started looking at the machines to see if any are lacking down the chain?

[loud vault]

if i keep chipping away at a node after the chunk is gone, will the node break too?

[stark solar]

Fuel power is pretty good IMO

[viral tendon]

Coal can be better when you get compacted coal but fuel is always better

[solemn glacier]

Except for pods of course, I just plop down a bio gen instead

[steady glade]

with the default recipe or the hor -> diluted fuel ?

[stark solar]

When you get turbo fuel and rocket fuel they're better yet

[viral tendon]

I use even for pods cuz i have miners across the map

[hard ivy]

or augmenter

[sullen gull]

Rocket Fuel = ❤️

[delicate nymph]

what tree is the geothermal plant in

[hard ivy]

turbo kinda sucks

[sullen gull]

Caterium

[viral tendon]

I am pulling those power lines across the whole map, i have miners in every place i've been so far

[delicate nymph]

just found it

[solemn glacier]

At least it’s not normal power lines (right?)

[fathom shuttle]

the issue is that the refineries don’t get enough heavy oil it seems

[solemn glacier]

Just find the root problem

[viral tendon]

Do i stick with normal fuel for my generators and use rocket fuel later when i will need more power?

[sullen gull]

OK, so, are they lacking on oil? (The HOR refineries)

[sharp sentinel]

Only fuel generator I have right now exists only to keep my plastic factory going by turning the residual into fuel to feed the generator.

[viral tendon]

I'm using normal power lines

[sullen gull]

Diluted fuel can make a ton, but you probably get more "bang for your buck" doing an RF chain imo

Or go Nuke

[solemn glacier]

Use the towers

[viral tendon]

Just sink it into the awesome sink, and use normal fuel from oil, use a lot of fluid containers and sometimes flush them

[fathom shuttle]

And it seems the issue is not enough crude oil to the refineries

[viral tendon]

Ik they have longerrange but i'm low key fine

[steady glade]

10 hor refineries, 13.33 diluted fuel refineries, 40 fuel generators

[viral tendon]

Yeah i'm not that advanced i didn't even complete phase 3

[delicate nymph]

any tips for flying faster with the jetpack

[fathom shuttle]

Yea I have this set up but 4x’d

[fathom shuttle]

Get blade runners, slide then jump

[steady glade]

running slide start

[stark solar]

Start running before you start jetpack boosting

[viral tendon]

Sink the blue shit coming from normal fuel refinires

[delicate nymph]

allready use those

[sullen gull]

Soo, headlift issue maybe? Or, again, spread your oil incoming across the machines. Ie, start by pumping into both ends (either a loop back or however) and then middle, then middle, etc.

[delicate nymph]

i think ill make a hyper tube launcher for them

[sullen gull]

Not sure how much oil you're pulling

[steady glade]

jump from a train lmao

[sullen gull]

And all ya'll are wrong! Shock Noblisk jump everywhere! 😏

[fathom shuttle]

Everyone should make fun of me rn

Shame me for being a colossal moron

[sullen gull]

Lol, we've all probably done it more than once mate.

[primal haven]

hows that work?

[hard ivy]

forgot to OC the extractor?

[steady glade]

mk1 pipes?

[sullen gull]

Lol, painfully mostly 🤣

[fathom shuttle]

I forgot the mk1 I put on the oil extractors 💀 💀 😭 😭

[gentle jacinth]

how do i make a hypertube cannon

[steady glade]

yuup

[steady glade]

unlock it in the hub, then in the ttransport tab

[sullen gull]

As I said mate, wouldn't fret. We've all been there probably once at least. Learning experiences! Yay! 😏

[hard ivy]

google it. a video will be better than text

[gentle jacinth]

what next

[fathom shuttle]

Yea I’ll make a list of mistakes I made during this factory buildout

[sullen gull]

The best best would be to look up Hypertube cannon on youtube.

[sullen gull]

I need to be better at not having to look down to type 🤣

[steady glade]

start with an entrance, then zoop some hypertube lines wherever

[timid mesa]

i am sad, my nuclear no waste setup cant be made into blueprint from dimension size

[steady glade]

use beam in freeform build mode if you need them to go somewhere without support

[sullen gull]

Blah, ok, now I gotta go touch real grass and cut it's head off.

[solemn glacier]

Split it into multiple

[sullen gull]

You can fit a single (maybe two but never tried) Particle accelerator in a 6x6. But really just allows for pre setting belts and such 🤷‍♂️

[timid mesa]

even in multiple it would take quite a few

[timid mesa]

the 40x40x40 feel small (i post in screenshjot)

[gentle jacinth]

i dont understand this at all

[fathom shuttle]

Mk3?

[timid mesa]

the save i have that setup dont have them yet...

[honest void]

Hey, I just unlocked fuel (tier 5), but I’m kinda lost.
Should I use a node zone for a power grid and another for other fuel usages?
Should I wipe my old coal power grid or have both?
Is there a guide or something to understand how fuel works?

[hard ivy]

the blueprint is 40x40x40 m, not foundations lol

you ain't even close to fitting that in a blueprint

[sullen gull]

Just add on to your current grid

[fathom shuttle]

My power production is slowly coming back that’s nice

[honest void]

But then, how would I bring coal to the fuel power grid? I would have to bring it from across the map

Oh… train setup right?

[short pulsar]

Why do you need coal there?

[sullen gull]

Your coal plants stay as they are. All you need is to connect them with wire.

[timid mesa]

its roughly 37 foundation by 27 foundation

[steady glade]

you can start with one pure node in a zone for power, the rest for resources, keep the coal power and make compacted coal

[sullen gull]

And yeah, maybe across the map lol

[honest void]

I watched a video that I did not fully understand but the guy made his fuel power grid and needed coal and sulfur

[hard ivy]

the biggest BP is 6x6x6 foundations

[short pulsar]

That's for turbo fuel which is a later upgrade but you don't need that now

[sullen gull]

Btw, you can fit three manufactures (and blenders) in a 6x6 mk3 blue print designer like so: #screenshots message

[honest void]

Oh okay, thank you

[steady glade]

there are guides to efficient fuel power, but it'll take some alt recipes so make a quick plant for now and move on until you have them

[hard ivy]

"upgrade"

[swift kernel]

I was busy at work earlier, but I'm glad I've been able to prove a point

[honest void]

Will do, thanks

[loud vault]

how do i make the bio fuel?

[sullen gull]

Yeah, that's for making compacted coal for turbo fuel to either use by itself or with rocket fuel later.

[delicate nymph]

what are the helmet locations

[solemn glacier]

One is in a cave on the west coast

[steel sluice]

Complete the HUB goals and you will learn how to make it.

[solemn glacier]

The cave is huge

[sullen gull]

Ton of things in that cave as well iirc.

[loud vault]

i was, im lvl 3 now, i thought i would have had it to power the miners

[sullen gull]

Blade runners, xeno basher, and I thought a jetpack, but I haven't been able to find that yet.

[steady glade]

god no

[steel sluice]

if you can't make it yet, you can use wood and leaves until you learn a recipe in the constructor. If you dont have the recipe, then you need to complete more HUB milestones/

[short pulsar]

For a starter fuel setup you can do the basic Crude oil -> fuel recipe and then you just feed that fuel directly to the generators. Remember that you need to deal with the polymer resin byproduct in one way or another: either by stuffing them into an awesome sink or turning them into rubber or plastic with the residual recipes.

[loud vault]

oh i can just dump the leaves in raw for now?

[honest void]

Would you guys recommend that I explore the entire map and mark stuff or do I just keep developing my factories and eventually I’ll be forced to go everywhere?

[steady glade]

dont go back to gathering wood and leaves, get to coal power, liquid biofuel is nice for jetpacks

[sullen gull]

or also turning them into fabric if they have the recipe.

[timid mesa]

that or turn leave into biomass

[steady glade]

both

[loud vault]

i jsut started. im noob

[sullen gull]

Exploring does have it's rewards with mercers, slugs, sommersloops, and harddrives

[loud vault]

i dont have biomass recipe

[steel sluice]

you should listen to what ADA tells you about each machine and use the tooltips

[gentle jacinth]

listen to ada MOST of the time

[loud vault]

i must have missed it

[steel sluice]

leaves and wood can be burnt in the biomass burner yess

[sullen gull]

OK, loosing daylight, must mow. 😭

[short pulsar]

Do both. What I like doing is alternating between building and exploring to switch things up. And it's always satisfying to try out new stuff as you unlock it.

[loud vault]

thanks

[timid mesa]

tier 0 hub upgrade 6?

[gentle jacinth]

keep killing fauna even though ada tells you not to, it gives you more space

[honest void]

True

[loud vault]

the hub is lvl 3

[steady glade]

oh then for now just obey ada

[steel sluice]

Keep going. don't forget to put boxes at the end of your production lines to passively fill up once you have a line going miner --> smelter --> constructor --> box

[short pulsar]

Always obey ADA

[steady glade]

you can press O and go to the inbox tab if you missed a message

[delicate nymph]

what happens if you put sloop or mercer spheres in the sink

[sullen gull]

Clogs

[steady glade]

lmao

[delicate nymph]

ah

[sullen gull]

Cannot be sunk

[loud vault]

can i lower her voice at all? very loud

[timid mesa]

oh you are at upgrade 3? its coming 🙂

[sullen gull]

Samw with power shards fyi

[delicate nymph]

would be funny if theirs dialog

[sullen gull]

However, do sink a single coupon 😏

[loud vault]

yea, i just wanted to make sure there was a way to power the burner for the concrete i need

[short pulsar]

Probably somewhere in the settings

[timid mesa]

you can bruteforce craftiing if you want

[loud vault]

none seem to do it.

[sharp sentinel]

Just got killed by a hog that followed my rail line and got me in the middle of the air.

[timid mesa]

i mean its 30 limestone, you can easily mine it by hand if you want

[gentle jacinth]

GET THIS THING OUT OF MY TRANSPORT TAB

[sullen gull]

Pretty sure it's "Dialog volume"

[pastel harness]

So I'm building a big ocean platform for a single-level factory right... yeah turns out that the oceans either aren't level or have very different wave sizes, one end of the platform is fine but the other end has heaps of waves clipping through 😢

[frail sleet]

It only turns far right ;D

[steady glade]

yeah the waves are higher on the outer bounds of the map

[loud vault]

thats what i thought but it didnt seem to do anything no matter how low i put it

[gentle jacinth]

ive noticed

[honest void]

I was watching a video and the guy was placing conveyer belts, he just snapped them and they got perfectly placed with a right angle, what’s the shortcut to do that?

[short pulsar]

Also a quick tip: craft a big stack of portable miners. You can place down several of them on the same node. And then just periodically go and collect their yield and then hand feed it into the machines. If you use a container for input you don't have to do it often.

It can save you some power in the beginning and makes it easier to set up parallel production lines with splitters

[pastel harness]

Well that's a pain. What does a man have to do to build a nice clean 128x128 platform smh

[sullen gull]

Yeah, gotta start a min of 2m above the water at the coast unfortunately

[steel sluice]

there are different ways to place most buildables - press R for zooping and belt styles

[steady glade]

press r, straight mode

[gentle jacinth]

add a lawnmower PLEASE i hate having grass in my inventory

[loud vault]

do those get a belt or hand empty?

[honest void]

Thanks guys

[short pulsar]

Press 'R' to swap between build modes

[timid mesa]

hand

[delicate nymph]

are mushrooms good for anything

[steady glade]

nudge it up 2m

[timid mesa]

but its way faster than manually mining

[timid mesa]

yes they are used for MAM

[sullen gull]

Mycillia is used in MAM research and is a good alteratinve to produce biomass

[delicate nymph]

allready finished the mushroom tree

[loud vault]

good to know, i know where the cave is from my spot

[pastel harness]

ahhh that's a lot of rebuilding of platforms... sigh

[steady glade]

they're a bulding material, but if you just place them you gotta take the output bu hand

[timid mesa]

be aware mushroom cave often have spiders

[short pulsar]

Hand empty. But they each carry a full stack so if you have many of them you only have to check on them once in a while

[sullen gull]

Then, no, if not still on boimass power, no real use.

[steady glade]

i use blueprint to make my floors now

[sullen gull]

You can use SCIM to raise them up 😏

[pastel harness]

Yeah I'm doing 6x6 blueprints

[loud vault]

gotcha

[pastel harness]

This is where I wish I had infinite zoop or something haha

[sullen gull]

There's a mod for that 😏

[sharp sentinel]

Time to check in with my like, nine lizard doggos.

[steady glade]

ye i wish we could mass delete blueprints

[fathom shuttle]

So how much space would a 50GWh battery storage system take?

[steady glade]

lmao make a big tower

[honest void]

Are trains only for materials or do they also transport players?

[hard ivy]

Check battery capacity, calculate how many you need, then check the dimensions on the wiki

[fathom shuttle]

You can ride and drive them

[sullen gull]

You can ride in a train. Not sure if two people can at the same time though.

[steady glade]

500 power storages

[steady glade]

train surfing

[zenith pecan]

I have one of those, but it has 7776 power stores across 24 floors 😛

[sullen gull]

Lol, I did think about that when aswering 🤣

[steady glade]

holy shit the wiring must have been crazy

[hard ivy]

Just BP

[steady glade]

wish we could get killed by trains like in factorio

[fathom shuttle]

I’ll need 18000m2 of space, I can probably stack them ontop of each other and spam the recipe

[fathom shuttle]

Do power line connections get saved in blueprints too?

[steady glade]

the issue is that they can only be connected to twice

[short pulsar]

What do you even need all that battery storage for?

[hard ivy]

Chain them

[zenith pecan]

The entire compound took a while to build, here's a brief look at the place #screenshots message & #screenshots message

[pastel harness]

bulk deleting blueprints would be nice

[steady glade]

i wanted to make a big block but i just have a bunch of lines

[sullen gull]

I don't, I don't always look both ways 🤣 . Besides, I die to much as it is from my hypertube cannon 🤣 🤣

[steady glade]

so you can redo your fuel factory after it inevitably goes down

[hard ivy]

Idk either. I only have one to fix a bug with matrixed augmenters

[sullen gull]

Hell, just deleting one when you make many in the area makes the game have a hissy lol

[honest void]

Once trains are unlocked, are hypertubes worth anything? Maybe for movement inside of a factory?

[hard ivy]

Launchers

[steady glade]

oh yes still

[sullen gull]

That or hyptube cannons.

Make a good alternative for fast travel across the map until to get/want to use teleporters

[honest void]

Do they push the player that far to be called canons?

[steady glade]

yuuup

[sullen gull]

Look up Hypertube cannons on youtube 😏

[honest void]

I will! Thanks

[hard ivy]

OOB in seconds if you try hard enough.

[honest void]

What is OOB?

[steady glade]

out of bounds

[sullen gull]

They can effectively launch you past the Space station 😏

[short pulsar]

For that I would probably only do enough power storage to get the new fuel factory online and then just turn off the rest of the factory while the fuel power is down

[honest void]

What 😂😂

[steady glade]

it'd take a few dozens to last you an hour by the time you have oil

and you assume your factory will be up before then

[sullen gull]

The best advice I can give is to carry a parachute on you. And you can use the jetpack to slow/control decent. Also the "Back" key.

Also, if you're really good, you can "catch" the power of someplace you're trying to land that has power with the hoverpack 😏

[honest void]

Isn’t the parachute useless once i have the jetpack?

[sullen gull]

Nah, still has it uses.

[steel sluice]

not if you run out of fuel mid-descent..

[sullen gull]

Especially if you're exploring and trying to cross a canyon and run out of fuel

[honest void]

But the jetpack does cancel fall damage if used like 5m snobe ground right?

[short pulsar]

You can glide surprisingly far with the parachute

[sullen gull]

And "ride currents" in some cases

[steel sluice]

yes, but that involves constant monitoring :)

[honest void]

True

[frail sleet]

2 connections enables you to wire A to B to C to D to E ad infinitum

[fresh copper]

should i move to the dunes or tear everything down and build in the rocky desert #screenshots message

[sullen gull]

When exploring, there are many instances where you may be a lot higher that 5m 😏

[short pulsar]

Yeah with some trickery it's super strong for parkour

[primal haven]

you can still take damage while using a jetpack if you havent decelerated enough before hitting the ground

[sullen gull]

Hardcore Parkour! 🤣 😏

[honest void]

But I mean, even if I jump from a kilometer high, if I free fall and use the jetpack once 5m above ground it’ll cancel fall damage

[primal haven]

not all of it

[frail sleet]

if you just tap it then you still take damage. You need a brief hold to cancel vertical velocity, but it's easy to do.

[primal haven]

maybe, it would be worth testing

[sullen gull]

As rekorse just stated, if your velocity is still high, it will cause damage.

[delicate nymph]

anyone have the respawn animation on a video

interersted to see how it works

[thin tundra]

Guys help. I need information. Im going to be making 4800 nuclear waste per minute, and I need to know the best way to process it

[sullen gull]

Happens to me all the time when using rocket fuel lol

[tropic plover]

So I am seriously considering starting a new game.
Still on my first ever playthrough, Finished phase 2 busy with phase 3 but am thinking I have made too many mistakes and not spaced things out right and such....or should I just try re-organise things?

[hard ivy]

Into Plutonium rods. Then either sink or burn

[sullen gull]

Or just take those things you want to change and build somwhere else. Use this first save as a learning tool.

[frail sleet]

you only really have one option at that scale, and it's sink plutonium rods (or burn them and store their waste, as it's 20x less)

[steel sluice]

stay on the same map, and just move to a different area and plan it how you want it. that way you keep the resources available to use but you can "start fresh

[short pulsar]

Radar tower and parachute make a lot of the jumping puzzles trivial

[thin tundra]

@frail sleet That requires I build plutonium pellets, right? Is there even enough sulfer in the map for all that?

[lost wagon]

when producing materials you will use for building stuff like rods, plates and etc, do you all make a small factory in one of the veins making those or you just pull a splitter from some random factory that is producing more than it will use and put a belt to a storage/dimensional bullshit

[frail sleet]

more than enough, but yes between all of the uranium and plutonium you will use most of it

[tropic bear]

how do you not have to hold space to craft again

[sullen gull]

Probably depends on experience, goals, and personal tastes. A lot practice independancy

!wikisearch independency

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=independency

[steel sluice]

this is a common question, but you didn't really make mistakes, you were just learning. The map is huge and resources plentiful. Get exploring and pick a new place and use what you learned. A full reset can be just as daunting - you go back to chopping down trees and gathering leaves!

[short pulsar]

Just a single tap on spacebar

[tropic bear]

thx

[sullen gull]

Also single tap on e when hand mining a node or an ore deposit.

[hard ivy]

The minimum plutonium you need to get rid of all the waste

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=xEOxpVUu078iXHNfmN04

Adjust recipes to your linking

[tropic plover]

Lol, fair point, Biofuel was such a pain

[primal haven]

try a new biome out, they are crazy different from each other

[lost wagon]

that I already do, all my factories are made from raw (holdover from Dyson Sphere Program), but my question was for the resouces you will use to build the factories to begin with, do you also have a factory that just make them or you steal from the production line of a factory

[tropic plover]

Dont you need to finish the game in the tutorial zone before going to the next biome, then rinse and repeat to unlock each successive one?

[steel sluice]

It's all one big map, and there are several areas good for starting over that you can go out and explore.

[primal haven]

no they are different flavors of the same things

they vary in quality and quantity of resources, difficulty of terrain, and hostility

id simply avoid the swamp or red forest at first

I think the northwest corner has an awesome coal spot and oil spot

[steel sluice]

if you want a super clean start on the same map, strike out looking for some coal near water so you can make a power plant and off you go

[short pulsar]

I think it's a matter of preference. I like making a dedicated mall factory for the building materials and then have other factories for actual production lines.

[frail sleet]

I'm building a containment shield around the swamp, like chernobyl

[primal haven]

like a concrete dome?

[frail sleet]

ye 😄

[primal haven]

nice! that would look really cool hollowed out

like an underground bunker or whatever

filled with evil spiders

[frail sleet]

https://youtu.be/WbkD4XsI9n4?t=75

[short pulsar]

Also the Titan forest. That place is still spooky for me

[frail sleet]

titan forest trees are full of slugs 😄

[steel sluice]

shhh they're still new :)

[primal haven]

which place is the titan forest?

[thin tundra]

I can sink the pellets right?

[frail sleet]

nope only rods

[short pulsar]

Between swamp and red forest

[solemn glacier]

They need to know the struggle

[frail sleet]

the 200m tall trees

[primal haven]

oh that place is really cool

ive been stuck in the rocky desert for so long this save I keep forgetting about those areas

[solemn glacier]

Same

[steel sluice]

I played my first 150 hours with the aggressive fauna, and then I turned it off for my next 1100 hours haha

[primal haven]

did they fix the hatchers regrowing under roads?

[short pulsar]

I normally mainly build in the west part of the map but for my 1.1 playthrough I wanted to try something new so I started in the eastern part of the northern forest. And ohh boy the monsters in the titan forest are scary when the most potent weaponry I have is the basic rebar and nobelisk

I am so bad at the combat in this game

[sullen gull]

Fauna will always respawn if there is no powered structure close by afaik.

[steel sluice]

I've gone full circle and I'm back in the Grassy Fields. I'm using tractors everywhere here because it's so flat. Amazing

[primal haven]

oh like power poles or buildings?

[sharp sentinel]

Flat forgot I had a factory producing advanced framework, and let it run this entire time.

[short pulsar]

Yeah I was considering that too

[sullen gull]

I am not sure if power poles/wall outlets count.

But you could try running a line through the road over where you are having the spawn and try.

[delicate nymph]

whats the respawn animation look like in 2nd person

/ in multiplayer

[arctic cedar]

Is it possible to make tilted walls

[sharp sentinel]

You can buy the schematic in the Awesome Shop.

[short pulsar]

Btw speaking of combat. Any tips or tricks for getting better at dealing with the most dangerous enemies? I normally use either explosive rebars, homing ammo rifle, or basic nobelisk.

[dense violet]

jetpack, blade runners.
jump around

or blueprint a small fort and shoot from a window

[sullen gull]

That's about it. Some like to make "combat huts" or whatever,

[sharp sentinel]

Hit them with a stun bar and cover them in explosives.

[pastel harness]

Homing ammo isn't that great for damage, turbo is much better at a medium acceleration

[arctic cedar]

Which have an other angle as those in the bundle

[delicate nymph]

how do i upload things from my invintory

[short pulsar]

Now I have a certain House of Pain song stuck on my mind lol

[delicate nymph]

menues not showing up for some reason

[sullen gull]

Also, hold C when approaching hatchers, from ground or air, and they won't pop flies.

[sharp sentinel]

This feels like one of those Ask a Question, Just Don't Like the Answer scenarios.

[hard ivy]

Upgrade in MAM

[dense violet]

not a reference I know , sorry

[delicate nymph]

ah okay

[sullen gull]

Have you researched it in the MAM for inventory upload?

[delicate nymph]

just did

[sharp sentinel]

Finally got the Thing to get off my hypertube after six hours. He just kept standing on it, but ran off when I shot him.

[delicate nymph]

only that one though

[sullen gull]

There is one specifically for Manual Upload.

[dense violet]

ah, very old song. Ancient. Covered in dust

[leaden ether]

I usually whack a leg with a zeno zapper and they scamper off. Unless they don't. THen they just seem to be completely stuck and 15 more whacks take care of it :/

[short pulsar]

Hmm I haven't actually used the stun ammo much. Might be worth trying out.

[sullen gull]

Or a nuke, then ada scolds me 😏

[steel sluice]

boombox has a turbobass trigger which is great for getting rid of the beans

[dense violet]

stun is just kinda slow and obnoxious. Just use homing ammo and use terrain to your advantage

[sullen gull]

And for popping flies!

[dense violet]

plus the bombx clear out so much

[short pulsar]

Turbo just feels so slow at the beginning. And my aim is horrible. But could be worth trying out again

[hard ivy]

2k hours in and just last week I realised that I can sneak up on them and they don't activate at all

[sullen gull]

Lol.

[short pulsar]

Yeah I should probably make a bunker blueprint and the roleplay as StarCraft Terran.

[short pulsar]

I am an old lady too

[sullen gull]

I've heard using conveyor walls make good "shooting windows"

[sharp sentinel]

See, my issue is I always shoot the hatchers first. And they spawn flies even if I'm not near at that point.

[sullen gull]

Hold C while you do so, they won't activate 🙂

[hard ivy]

Sneak and basher

[sullen gull]

From any distance.

[arctic cedar]

Is there a way to tilt a wall to an angle which is not in the tilted wall bundle

[short pulsar]

It was only recently that I learned that holding C also works while airborne lol

[delicate nymph]

whats the respawn animation?

[next umbra]

Huh

[sharp sentinel]

I remapped my crouch to control because I refuse to get with the times.

[delicate nymph]

i should do that too

thanks

[sharp sentinel]

Only issue is then you need to remap a couple other things, but it's much easier on the hands.

[short pulsar]

Ahh neat. Maybe I will finally unlock them in my 1.1 save. I haven't bothered with them since the new conveyor hole.

[burnt ferry]

#screenshots i hate ai translated video titles