satisfactory

[ivory condor]

go on thinking what you want of course, but everything tells me its purely a issue with this game

[spice patio]

Not really?
At specific point causing marginal system to actually cause instability needs very specific load patterns.

[urban root]

All games present different loads. Satisfactory will expose issues where others may not

[spice patio]

And like I said, UE5 games in general, and Satisfactory 1.0/1.1 in particular cause load patterns that nothing else seems to commonly cause.

[urban root]

Asus motherboard?

[ivory condor]

no.....

[urban root]

What motherboard

[prime crane]

yall can anyone help me a bit with the thing i sent in screenshots?

[spice patio]

Make #1038092680493801533 thread to continue this.
Or stop complaining constantly.

[prime crane]

you...talking to me?

[spice patio]

No.

[ivory condor]

UE5 has issues in general, so do think its because of that, but I would point this towards being purely a engine issue only, but this is epic and they can't seem to get their engines right

[spice patio]

But there is a reason why Intel had to extend their 13th and 14th gen warranties by 2 years.
Where UE5 games have been the thing most commonly triggering the issues.

[ivory condor]

Honestly I'm not surprised, alot of problems seem to be going under the hood with UE5 in general

[spice patio]

But specific version of CineBench caused them too etc.

[spice patio]

No, the "issue" is that UE5 generates load patterns that are uncommon, causing those marginally stable systems hit actual instability reliably.

From CPU ramping cores up and down constantly.

And RAM access patterns hitting some latency that isn't often used normally.

Still HW issue.

[ivory condor]

Who knows, you can throw as many theories at this point I suppose, not that it will fix the crashes at this point, but thankfully I figured out mostly what features can cause crashes, so I can for now avoid them

[urban root]

It means the pump at the selected location will send fluid in the direction of the animation.

[urban root]

^^

[ivory condor]

Still its a bit disheartening to see the same types of crashes that happened in 1.0, still being present in 1.1, but what more can I do

[urban root]

Mobo brand what is it

[prime crane]

yes. but that circle from the middle pipe stops there. anyway i had an idea to make sure it's not broken. thanks for the response anyway.

[spice patio]

And what can gamedev side do for few unstable systems, where it is HW PROBLEM!

[ivory condor]

for this clevo, idk they make their own so you would have to ask them where they source them from, i suspect like most of what they do its probably made by them

[spice patio]

We never finished the diagnosis, as you never created thread IIRC, I just gave snippets of the first basic steps.

[urban root]

I think that's the recommended location for a pump. As the one beneath it won't push up that far. Or rather past that. The other pipe is horizontal so the pump goes further

[prime crane]

ahh..i understand

[ivory condor]

Well I already finished my diagnosis last year, but good luck making sense of that. I did debug 1.1 to see if it was the same root cause and it was, which was interesting

But who knows what this game is doing with its rendering resources, beyond what the crash reports say technically is happening

[urban root]

So your 13900k is a laptop

[spice patio]

There are no current "GPU crash dump triggered" bugs in the game that cannot be fixed on user side by either driver reinstall stuff, or stabilizing the actual HW, except for Nvidia 5000-series, which has no stable drivers from Nvidia.

[ivory condor]

yes, why?

[spice patio]

Issue is not the game, it is your computer, but you don't accept that, so there is nothing I can do to help.

And nothing the devs can do either.

[urban root]

So you have a clevo 13900k laptop. This is new and important information

[ivory condor]

Mine aren't "GPU crash dump triggers", though, so while your probably correct, but that isnt what is happening in my case.

probably best to confuse these different type of crash reports

[spice patio]

Then make that thread, and include the crash reporters as text?
Your are then pretty random in cause?
Even more likely to be CPU or RAM instability then.
Or corrupt save if always the exact same cause.

[urban root]

@ivory condor What GPU is in your laptop

[ivory condor]

I made a qa post about these issues last year, not sure if it would make sense to make threads about it to

[spice patio]

And QA post isn't right medium to try to fix whatever is wrong in your computer.
#1038092680493801533 thread is.

[ivory condor]

Anyways I included all related information I have in that updated qa post so I'll see if anything might come out of that, nothing else I can really explore and do, beyond having seen it has the same root cause, but not sure what to make of that

thankfully for now ill just leave the features off, as it appears something is still broken with them

[urban root]

What GPU

[ivory condor]

4090 mobile, same as the 4080 desktop

[urban root]

It's not. Don't say that.

[ivory condor]

sorry i mean the silicon is

obviously its not exactly the same performance so about -20% compared to the 4080 desktop, roughly anyways

[urban root]

It's not.
It benches about the same that's it.

What are your temps across both your CPU and GPU?

[ivory condor]

yes it is, it uses the same silicon die....

[spice patio]

And VBIOS, cooling, etc. are completely different?

[ivory condor]

for the 4090m they didn't cut the die down, its a full version of it, only big difference is power limited, but thats normal for mobile

[spice patio]

TDP too, turbo behavior etc.

[ivory condor]

true

[shell grove]

funnily enough considering they are the same die, I would argue the 4090 mobile is more reliable than the 4080 desktop.

[urban root]

I agree. There's enough fused off it survives

[shell grove]

solely on the power connector already TBH xD

[safe rose]

Hey what happened to yesterdays live stream? I can’t find it anywhere. I thought you could go back and watch them later?

[urban root]

The die has much fused off while it may be or start as the same die what ends up in the laptop is much different. You're technically not wrong but they fuse enough off its disingenuous to call it the same.

[safe rose]

Nvm. It’s there now. The app needed updating and it showed up.

[spice patio]

It is now up again.

It was down originally for censorship check of some kind, probably that the console version talk section didn't contain stuff that wasn't allowed to be said.

[urban root]

When is the last time you updated the bios.

[spice patio]

Talked in the stream specific thread.

[zenith pecan]

If it's a 13th or 14th gen intel and thats already crashing, the update to its bios is fixing the barn door after the horse has bolted 😢

[urban root]

True but if may grant some additional time

[spice patio]

In this case, probably yes.
On desktop platforms, it often was from MB maker by default undervolting, which then helped against permanent damage.
But Clevo probably didn't do that, which then accelerated the permanent damage.

[zenith pecan]

😵‍💫

[urban root]

I just went to their site I cannot get the bios download page to load

Which is a shame because clevo isn't bad. They're a massive laptop ODM

[spice patio]

Three things Intel fucked up (first by not limiting what MB makers were doing like AMD is):
MBs undervolting CPUs by default (straight up unstable CPUs without damage at stock).
eTVB activating when it shouldn't have (damage).
CPU making too high VID requests (damage).

Where that first helped prevent the two other points causing as much permanent damage.

[zenith pecan]

I had the ai overclock on my old 9th gen fail spectacularly when playing satisfactory, The stupid thing set the voltage to 0.997v while clocked at 5.1ghz, cue repeated bsods! 🥶

While fixing that fail, there was more than a few instances of Блять!

Satis, like any resource hungry game can truly expose system instabilities.

[urban root]

I ran my kaby lake hot and spicy until a few years in I lost stability over 5ghz. 9900k was rock solid. I still have my 10900k which I still love. It is what runs my server

[zenith pecan]

I'm getting 5.5 from my silicon lottery winner 12900k.

[urban root]

The nova lake leaks have me excited. If they're competitive I'm back on Intel. 36 pcie lanes on consumer, non enterprise or HEDT. for me is huge. Threadripper costs too dam much and Intel has no HEDT equivalent.

[zenith pecan]

With the way I build in game, it might be worth me building something faster, my saves tend to bring computers to their knees.

My old save, now with multiple broken things due to 1.0, actually needed nearly 50gb at the end to load.

[urban root]

Dam!

[zenith pecan]

My current save is pushing 19gb, and I have so much to build.

Tunnels under the map don't help.

[urban root]

That's right I saw your screenshots a few days ago. You are the human blueprint. It looks crazy. I want to play with that too

[obsidian zephyr]

sup

[zenith pecan]

Now the steel is routed from the blue crater, I need to take the starter plant out and build a proper rotor/stator/motor factory.

I do want to build a multi-fuel packaging facility.

The storage house will use an old 140 isc storage room, simply because I can.

[urban root]

I need to rebuild some electronics lines. AI limiters and super computers are getting wrecked now. My depot cannot keep up. I thought I had them in a good place

[zenith pecan]

I need to do that with simple concrete, I keep running out!

I've recently done quartz crystals and silica, also halfway there for construction oscillators.

[urban root]

I fixed that lol. during heavy construction I run 10 uploaders on wet concrete

[zenith pecan]

Wet concrete, theres an idea, the chosen limestones are at the north west corner of the rocky desert, right at the waterfront.

I can't do much until I get home though, right now I'm dealing with workplace boredom by chatting on discord, 0 service users attended so far 💤

[rich loom]

please I need serious help ive been stuck on these damn block and path signals for three days now nothing I try works it doesnt make any sense

[reef basin]

share images and your problem in #1038092680493801533

[grizzled lotus]

do monsters regain health when I die?

I'm trying to whittle down a monster's health

[shy mulch]

What monster? They are designed to be pretty easy to kill for the most part. They don't have much HP

[dense violet]

overhead images as well. and have signal selected as the build option to see the blocks youre creating

[dense violet]

they generally despawn and reswpawn

[grizzled lotus]

I only have the zapper so far (no basher) and I'm trying to kill one of those big horned hogs

also, no blade runners

[dense violet]

research better gear in the MAM. otherwise exploring is painful

[grizzled lotus]

so basically, trying to get a few hits before dying, and repeat

[dense violet]

its likely a different hog every time

[grizzled lotus]

it's the same location near some crash debris

[dense violet]

"they generally despawn and respawn"

[grizzled lotus]

ok

[dense violet]

get better gear first

[zenith pecan]

Same location, but its bee,..... nm cobalt beat me to it.

[dense violet]

exploring is pretty easy when you're geared out.
pain in the ass w/o it

[shy mulch]

with that zapper it'll take 16 hits to kill that thing, it's very simple to get better equipment in the MAM then go kill it easily from range

[zenith pecan]

Concrete can be an explorers best friend, coupled with a rebar, you can chuck down a small combat shack and shoot through the wall holes with impunity.

[dense violet]

it sounds like they only have what they got out of their pod with

[shy mulch]

I do it the other way round, instead of building round yourself, build around the enemies. Then you can choose whether to kill or ignore

[zenith pecan]

I use a blueprint, one click combat murder hole and take on multiple enemies in complete safety.

[still ginkgo]

hmmm, i have realised i do not infact have 250000 MW to power through phase 5

[zenith pecan]

Flaw at the power station?

[still ginkgo]

maybe.....

[fathom shuttle]

Can you do clean nuclear power at phase 4?

[hard ivy]

sink plutonium rods

[fathom shuttle]

How much are they worth in the sink

[hard ivy]

like 150k each?

!wikisearch plutonium+fuel+rod

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=plutonium+fuel+rod

[fathom shuttle]

Oh wow, how many would a late game nuclear power set up make?

[shy mulch]

yeah blueprints for that work well, easy to drop one on each enemy though if there's a bunch spread out

[dense violet]

however much you like

[shy mulch]

why do you need 250k mw?

[south sinew]

easier known as 250GW

[hard ivy]

depends how much uranium you burn. 2100 uranium makes a max of 30.4/min, though it's a waste of uranium. 12ish is more reasonable if you're sinking them

[fathom shuttle]

How much would that be in power?

[shy mulch]

a lot of people don't know their way around SI units, so I find it's usually better for clarity to stick to the units shown in the game

[hard ivy]

the game does not abbreviate 1000 to k anywhere

[true mulch]

force them to learn SI units, that's elementary school stuff

[hard ivy]

nor is mw a thing

it's MW

[zenith pecan]

I doubt I can use all of my power stations output, I suppose I could make fuel or nuclear devices to sink.

[fathom shuttle]

I took that lesson like 5 times during high school and college lol

[frail sleet]

would be good to have some of those for benchmarking 😄

You really need RAM overclocking for satisfactory performance with big worlds. There's +30-100% scaling from vcache, but it's very easy to spill over it into RAM regions and OC affects performance a lot.

My nuclear plant world averages 20GB/s of memory throughput on zen5 x3d just standing there, and its CPU FPS is still in the hundreds before framegen.

[zenith pecan]

I've been rolling with 64gb machines since 2017.

[frail sleet]

You can OC those too

Capacity and performance are only indirectly connected

[zenith pecan]

Yeah, pick xml or choose custom timings and frequence, and have at it, though clocking ram means good old crash watch.

[frail sleet]

Yeah gotta be careful testing

XMP/EXPO gives less than half of OC gains, a ton of people use it because it's quick and easy though. Just gotta keep in mind, it's still overclocking and has the same stability concerns / validation needs

[zenith pecan]

Modern ddr5 can push 8000mt/s

[frail sleet]

A lot of it can daily speeds at around 9600mt/s, they're just limited by the memory controllers on the CPU

[fathom shuttle]

Man I wanna unlock mk5 logistics and mk3 miners but they’re locked behind aluminum 😭 can I use a simple set up of 5 refineries to get what I need?

[zenith pecan]

Thats what people forget, you're overclocking another part of the cpu doing it.

[zenith pecan]

You can go tiny refinery and open water just for construction aluminium, it just has to work, not be huge, 2 refineries with clocks and say wet concrete for wastewater.

[frail sleet]

For memes you can also employ the bauxite centipede

Refinery 1 waste water feeds refinery 2, whose waste water feeds refinery 3, whose waste water feeds refinery 4

and eventually like 10m3/min of water is left over and you can wet concrete it 😛

[zenith pecan]

Great meme, but for basics, needlessly complex.

[fathom shuttle]

Wait so what recipes do I need to unlock for aluminum refinement? I think sloppy alumina and and something else

[frail sleet]

electrode scrap and pure ingot

you don't need them, but electrode scrap is more efficient / easier to work with, and pure ingot is a lot simpler (deletes quartz)

[fathom shuttle]

Sloppy alumnia
Electrode scrap
Pure ingot

[zenith pecan]

The base recipe works very well at small scale, a small amount of silica is produced, and later fed into a foundry with a little more from a mine.

[fathom shuttle]

Well practically I do need them, because simplicity and efficiency is what you need in this game

[zenith pecan]

If you produce too much coke like I did, feed the excess into particle accelerators for diamonds.

[fathom shuttle]

I snorted all my coke unfortunately

[zenith pecan]

Carbon up your nose and in the lungs is bad for you!

[sick heart]

do you guys use the lowest mk belt for each belt section in your factories or just plonk down the highest you have available everywhere?

[vagrant oar]

plank the highest

future proofing and less materials spent in the end really?

[zenith pecan]

I'll use lower mk belts where I deem appropriate, zoom zoom 1200ppm when I am moving 50 just looks wrong to me.

[vagrant oar]

• habit from pre-depot

[fathom shuttle]

The highest, though to save on material costs I use lower tier belts for connecting the machine’s inputs and outputs

[smoky forge]

W pfp
no usualy u never use the lower ones anymore

[sick heart]

i like seeing stuff on belts but it means it takes absolutely forever to fill my manifolds when it gets to later game

[smoky forge]

save materials? how do you run out of materials

my solution would just be a massive belt material fatory with 4 uploaders and stuff

[fathom shuttle]

Once you get to mid-late game conveyer belts start taking thinkings like steel beams and encased industrial beams

[true mulch]

using max belts everywhere leads to faster saturation of machines, using slower belts means it spreads between machines more

there was a graph but I don't have it handy

[smoky forge]

i am at tier 5 belt

ik, its not expensive at all

[true mulch]

Mk.2 and Mk.4 are the most expensive lol

[smoky forge]

ye mk 2 is in early

[zenith pecan]

I just like the look of items lazilly moving by, fast/slow doesn't matter beyond aesthetics, provided you're not bottlenecking.

[fathom shuttle]

Yea, encased industrial beams especially, since you need lots of them at the same time for building stuff

[smoky forge]

ive got 1 constructer running since ive built my all in one factory and it has never been to litle steel beams for me

[zenith pecan]

I've used so many mk4 belts due to 300-400 throughput being too much for mk4.

[vagrant oar]

mk3 and mk5 are free ngl

[smoky forge]

ye

aluminum production is just crazy fast

[zenith pecan]

Mk6 is free for me right now, time crystals from too much coke, and converting alu ingots to trigons.

Mk3 are probably the easiest due to the volumes of steel beams you can spam in the early game.

[next umbra]

Mmmm steel beams are tasty

[zenith pecan]

I'm considering like a dozen smaller rubber/plastics refineries in the spire this time, not a huge one in the dunes like before.

[spark sky]

Um, why do I have to accept the agreement every time I start up Satisfactory 1.1.1.0?

[solemn glacier]

they said they were gonna fix that a couple days ago (so watch out for a patch soon)

[carmine pine]

Anyone else having problems with lag spikes in factories?

[solemn glacier]

nope

i just get consistent 30fps

[ivory condor]

Probably close to 2 years ago, bios updates for laptops aren't released very often.

[solemn glacier]

on lower than minimum specs too

[green fiber]

You should be happy about that lol, many would be envious of that consistency

[carmine pine]

I feel for you. Had a potato before lol

[ivory condor]

Oh you mean the oversupply voltage problem that was causing issues for desktop, no idea how much that impacted mobile if it did at all.

[solemn glacier]

newest thing in my setup is the headphones

[ivory condor]

Though personally I have never been able to replicate any of the 13/14 stability issues for mobile, but its also something that's hard to test for

Even intels own guidance is the standard aka mobile wasn't impacted

Though wouldn't the game be crashing even more if that was a problem, though the fatal error crashes do tell me something is wrong, but its impossible to really narrow down those sorts of crashes more

[oblique aspen]

Its not really possible to identify the source of a crash from the outside very easily, unless its a typical well known crash like some games had them in particular

[tropic dawn]

How do i get rid of rocks on places where i can put drill

[zenith pecan]

You need explosives for the boulders.

[ivory condor]

For a general fatal crash where the game thread waits 120 seconds for the render thread and then crashes because that isnt meant to happen, not really, unless its more specific, that can tell you a little more

[rancid hearth]

I got two belt poles that are perfectly alligned, just not on the same height, but when I place the belt with strait parameter, it curse slightly to the left... Default do a perfect strait line. Is it a know bug ?

[zenith pecan]

I have found straight mode behaving oddly since 1.1, switch to default for straight runs or very tight turns.

[harsh kayak]

Fellas, should i put the versatile frameworks and the automatic wirings on the same belt

[reef basin]

if you want 🤷

[harsh kayak]

Actually, I can't

The versatile frameworks are already backing up

[white dawn]

Having more then one kind of item on a belt is called "sushi," and yes, you can do it. You need Smart Splitters to be able to process a sushi belt effectively, though

[shy mulch]

If you want to save space or make a clearer long distance route or whatever, then go for it, as long as it doesn't fill the belt capacity. But there's not usually that many good reasons to.

[white dawn]

Right, with sushi you need to make sure that the main sushi belt never backs up, using the Overflow output on a smart splitter

You basically use sushi for the longer-range transport and then SSes to sort once the material is at its destination

[warped pawn]

uh is it a bad idea to build conveyor busses off the world grid?

[reef basin]

imo it's a bad idea to build busses

and I recommend not sticking to a single grid, it's fine to build one factory on some local grid based on surrounding terrain, but no reason to have all factories on the same grid imo

[warped pawn]

its cuz like the resources are really close so i dont wanna use a train or other things

[reef basin]

umm, I assume you mean "belt" then, not a bus?

[warped pawn]

theres tons of resources i need so its a ton of conveyors

[reef basin]

that's just stacked conveyors

a bus is when you have stacked belts within a factory, you split resources from them to nearby machines and merge back products

[wicked moss]

Do you guys know if there's a way to make the new elevator doors open quicker when I reach a floor?

Is there a setting I can configure

[warped pawn]

use hyper tubes instead, and theres no way to do so

[wicked moss]

Aw man. I'll stick with the elevator then haha

I have an ATC tower style build and the elevator is really cool with it

[warped pawn]

oh thats sick

[lofty mason]

Does anyone else have issues with the hypertube junctions only working 25% of the time unless you pass through them first

Sometimes when I first get on, they'll work, otherwise I have to go through the junction, turn around, then it'll let me use E to change tubes

[lethal ocean]

Do you use hypertube branch junctions

[lofty mason]

Is that the 3 way?

wait no - I use the hypertube junction

I'm also playing on a dedicated server that is local (literally next to my main setup) and this game has always been extremely plagued with bugs and desync issues, more-so for me than my friend who is in another state, ironically

I only started playing a month ago and this is the first game I've run into in terms of managing a server that has been so bad

[lethal ocean]

Ok no clue

[warped pawn]

whats the keybind for checking codex

[hard ivy]

O

check your keybinds

[grizzled lotus]

Thoughts? I'm leaning towards copper rotor since they seem pretty useful #screenshots message

[hard ivy]

Frankly, I wouldn't take either

but the rotors are at least somewhat good, unlike the frames

[grizzled lotus]

well, this is after the rescan

[warped pawn]

thx

what should i use for iron prod btw i have all the alts for iron

[hard ivy]

if you leave recipes in the library, they'll never appear in new drives

[warped pawn]

id go for copper the prod is so much higher than the regular recipe

[grizzled lotus]

that's what I'm thinking

[warped pawn]

it would be perfect if paired with the iron to screw alt recipe

[grizzled lotus]

I have that. can yoiu explain how they'd work?

[reef basin]

pick any that you want, if you don't know, just flip a coin or leave decision for later

[hard ivy]

Personally, I always use Steel Rotor, but it is more expensive

[warped pawn]

just put the iron into a constructor that makes the screws and put it into the assembler and bring the copper sheet from wherever

[last jungle]

yes, i steel pipes from people

[last jungle]

that was supposed to be out of context

[fathom shuttle]

How do I disable indoor shadows? the game looks really dark if I build a ceiling over a building

[last jungle]

ceiling lights in the awesome shop but those are kinda big

also i dont think u can

[fathom shuttle]

Kibitz has them off

[last jungle]

i think its "global illumination" in video category

its like near the bottom

nvm idk what it does

[warped pawn]

no big changes

it makes everything much darker but light on stuff is still the same

looks weird dont reccomend

[last jungle]

i just got a vignette jumpscare lol

[frail sleet]

This is a "take neither so that they don't come up again" drive

[warped pawn]

gosh i forgot how huge refineries are

[fathom shuttle]

I have shadows on cinematic that’s probably it right

[warped pawn]

just play around with settings u should fine something

[harsh kayak]

Oh no, my dog has dissapeared

Is there any way to find it quickly

[prime crane]

Shout his name

Really loud

[harsh kayak]

I meant the lizard dog

[prime crane]

Yeah I know

[harsh kayak]

I can't yell Schlappohren in the game

[prime crane]

Yell in real life and pray it hears you

[warped pawn]

use clap emote trust

[prime crane]

Best emote in the game to spam

Clap clap clap

Aluminum factories made me lose it

[warped pawn]

thank god im not there yet

im so close tho idk how to feel abt it

[prime crane]

What phase you at

[warped pawn]

phase 2 moving to phase 3

i could have finished phase 2 but my factory looked bad so im redoing everything

[prime crane]

Alum is in phase 4

You still aren't close enough

[warped pawn]

tier 3 unlocks bauxite refinement

[prime crane]

Are we playing the same game

[warped pawn]

check the wiki bro 😭 il lsend an ss in #screenshots

[white dawn]

You mean the wiki that says Bauxite Refinement is in Tier 7 / Phase 4? :) https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Milestones#Tier_7

[warped pawn]

ohh

so im moving from phase 3 to phase 4

mbmb

it said complete phase 3 so i got confused

[ivory condor]

Open up scim and see if the doggo exists👀

[prime crane]

I thought I was tweaking lol. I didn't know what he was saying

[merry mountain]

Disable Global Illumination.. it's not "fully" supported by CSS anyway.. and yeah, it is responsible for making indoors very dark..

[dense violet]

well yeah, it's more realistic lighting

[white dawn]

Yeah, the delineation between phases is often kind of confusingly worded, too; it's not uncommon for folks to have it a bit wrong. :) All good!

[dense violet]

put up lights and signs 😛

[ivory condor]

Question is what is supported

[merry mountain]

But they never updated the lighting system to accomodate for it, so it make stuff too dark.. they would need to overhaul the lighting system

[dense violet]

how so? just put up lights.

it's dark because outside light isn't coming in

[ivory condor]

You should have seen the lighting system in u5, there was no escaping the darkness

[harsh kayak]

Thanks

[warped pawn]

darkness is sick cuz when u put ceiling lights on coated concrete it looks shiny and its rlly cool, check my ss on #screenshots

[wicked marlin]

I think conveyer belts should take power, and transmit power.

[reef basin]

would make it horrible to kickstart power

[ivory condor]

But of course I love the darkness myself, join me in it

[warped pawn]

maybe just transmit would be nice

[mortal ginkgo]

I am surprised you didn't say every belt segment should need oil after mk3.

Or it should make swiggy swuggy sound.

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[warped pawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/831867173269012541/1351900598970351659/C7C9BB07-5880-4712-83ED-CFE4B6B76511.gif

[mortal ginkgo]

[wicked marlin]

For what? Lubricant?

[warped pawn]

no embed NOO

[mortal ginkgo]

Obviously.

[mortal ginkgo]

Bro, take this smol l. 🇱 .

[ivory condor]

And mk6 belts needs nuclear power to work

[wicked marlin]

Indeed thats a good idea.

[warped pawn]

maybe just to make a conveyor faster than it is other than that it would make early game hard asl

[midnight portal]

yeah maybe like an overclock for conveyor belts

[mortal ginkgo]

each Conveyor Belt segment should ask for a power pole link.

[ivory condor]

Slooped conveyors

[dense violet]

that already exists. It's called 'the next mk belt'

[ivory condor]

And needs to be hooked up to power augmenters to work

[warped pawn]

10 of em

[prime crane]

When they add this they should rename from "update" to "punishment"

It would be hell of a cables

[warped pawn]

rate my setup in #screenshots

[ivory condor]

And each segment has its own individual power it needs to work

[prime crane]

Isn't this what Leon said

[ivory condor]

Power poles only transmit power hmmm

[warped pawn]

conveyors need a different type of power

[ivory condor]

Unless its each segment needs a power augmenter

[steady glade]

like the create mod from minecraft?? id hate that

[warped pawn]

yes

[steady glade]

i'd sooner swing from the beak of the space giraffe tick penguin whale thing

[warped pawn]

i thought create was fun

its just a shit ton of gears

[green fiber]

in MC, maybe
here it sounds like a chore

and we already have 50 other chores

[ivory condor]

Ada always wants to add more

[fluid sapphire]

i tried googling this but cant find anything recent, whats the current state of using special characters for blueprint names? lets say I want to use something like ▲▼?

[hard ivy]

blueprints are saved as files

if you can put the character in a windows file name, you probably can

[keen dagger]

I love these new belt counters.

[frank hinge]

For the nuke enjoyers here; is my math way off or is it not possible to utilize all uranium on the map AND go all the way up to fisconium? I'd need more SAM than there are nodes

[dense violet]

sloop the sam

[frank hinge]

madlad shit!

[dense violet]

best way though is to just not burn the plutonium rods

it's really easy to make 0 ficsonium rods

[frank hinge]

Ya, it seems my other option is to max out uranium and then just sink the plutonium rods. This idea hurts my soul tho.

[keen dagger]

#off-topic-media message

[dense violet]

use them in drones.

[dense violet]

already solved with 'slooped sam', don't need a whole reddit post for that

[oblique hound]

off topic, but whats with people being so dismissive of the QA site?

I see comments such as "This is what the QA site is for, bashing new players ideas by rejecting them and them adding them in later!!!1!!!"

meanwhile, in my experience, I have gotten two out of the 8 posts I made fixed/added (0.5m ctrl+nudge and a vulkan bug report) and never actually seen a post denied for no reason?

[hard ivy]

it's possible, but you either have to deliberately waste uranium/uranium byproducts to make less ficsonium or not build anything else in the world

[pseudo holly]

they werent lying that somersloop double power shard particle accelerator can consume 15000 mw

[frank hinge]

Yep i need to save some SAM for singularity cells and a bit for base / infra. I might just make a smaller trophy nuke plant that goes up to ficsonium as I already have a turbofuel plant pumping 500mw

[oblique hound]

I have seen 3 comments like this within 15 minutes of browsing the QA site

#off-topic-media message

[warped pawn]

damn

i was gonna research that but ig ill just wait lmao

[pseudo holly]

I will build 500 fuel powered generators before i even think about touching nuclear power

i love pollution

[frank hinge]

Ya I already did that and it's a glorious gigafactory. I just feel like I'm missing out on part of the game if I don't do nuclear.

[pseudo holly]

turbofuel my beloved

[mossy birch]

Well… me is heavy turbo fuel.

[hard ivy]

turbofuel is like the worst fuel for power and turbo heavy is the worst way to make it lol

[mossy birch]

Uhh.. why though?

[frank hinge]

(I assume) they mean because you can cut it with other ingredients in a blender and turn it into rocket fuel, which IIRC has a better burn ratio

[hard ivy]

the only good thing about it is the oil efficiency. that's it. unless you care about the oil usage and nothig else, normal fuel or rocket fuel are better choices

[mossy birch]

I wonder whether rocket fuel comes from removing some main components found in turbo fuel and add some new components.

[pseudo holly]

im about to switch to rocket fuel

[mossy birch]

I already use rocket fuel now.

Oil > Heavy Residual Oil (plastic + rubber) > Heavy Turbo Fuel > Rocket Fuel.

[oblique hound]

I want to convert to rocket fuel but with my current production I would need 2400 fuel gens...

I am not doing that.

[mossy birch]

Making a huge machine specifically for that I guess.

[hard ivy]

that's so much oil wasted lol

[mossy birch]

Then what is the best technique?

[boreal musk]

oil > hor > diluted fuel

[hard ivy]

well, heavy oil residue and diluted fuel first

[mossy birch]

Hm… blender technique, right?

[hard ivy]

then either nitro rocket or a mix of turbo blend and default turbo into default nitro

[mossy birch]

Hm…

[boreal musk]

nitro if you want easy power, use normal rocket recipe if you want to save sulfur and nitrogen

[mossy birch]

Need some changes towards my oil factory.

[warped pawn]

anyone got the answers to my question in #screenshots?

[oblique hound]

offset it 1m into the wall with nudge

[mossy birch]

I’ll change the way to generate power quite soon.

[oblique hound]

(press h while placing it and use arrow keys)

[warped pawn]

i did it a diff way but

i got it

ill use the nudge next time i totally forgot abt that

idk why i care so much about how my world looks, noones gonna see it

[mossy birch]

Also it’s a big hassle to put fuel powered generators.

[warped pawn]

depends on spacing

[frank hinge]

Four can fit in a BP and with autoconnect mode you can slam them together pretty quick now. My fuel gen BP saved hundreds of hours of placing time and that was even w/o autoconnect mode.

[mossy birch]

Hm… how many do you have though?

[warped pawn]

maybe alot if he had to use bps

[mossy birch]

(I do have blueprints, but uhh… never used yet.)

[warped pawn]

super useful for big builds

[grim blade]

useful is an understatement (coming from a person thats too lazy to build them)

[surreal latch]

Is there a bug right now that nudge isn't showing up?

[mossy birch]

In my build for petrol or something like that I tend to avoid alternate recipe, unless very helpful.

Most helpful alternate recipe that I have are: Heavy Turbo Fuel and Screw Cast.

[grim blade]

its working for me but I noticed few bugs with controls that go away after leaving to main menu

[warped pawn]

make heavy oil residue its so good, u have mre recipes and its just better than crude oil if u have enough alt recipes

[surreal latch]

I've already tried that, most things work fine but nudge just hasn't worked since 1.1 came out for me

[mossy birch]

Let me see…

[warped pawn]

i still havent automated heavy modular frames 😭

[mossy birch]

But like…?

[harsh kayak]

Where are game saves kept?

[mossy birch]

Uhh… I make 6 per minute.

[warped pawn]

%LOCALAPPDATA%\FactoryGame\Saved\SaveGames for windows

[mossy birch]

I am not sure whether this is possible: 1 coupon per minute. (Assume 300,000,000 points per coupon.)

[surreal latch]

I'm an idiot. You gotta press H now, sorry yall

[warped pawn]

i dont have heavy modular frames so i gotta use mk1 pipe poumps cuz i am NOT making heavy modular frames by hand

[mossy birch]

You do not need heavy modular frame for mk2 pipes.

[warped pawn]

check recipe

[mossy birch]

Or to unlock it?

Ah, you mean the lift.

Oh well… I saw it wrong.

My bad.

[oblique hound]

mk2 pumps dont need hmfs either??

[mossy birch]

But yeah, it requires heavy modular frame otherwise.

[warped pawn]

i was about to automate it but im working on a new factory cuz i dont lke seeing a huge box 😭😭

[oblique hound]

its motors, plastic, and encased industrial beams

[mossy birch]

I am planning to replace all my mines to mk3 but conveyors is a huge problems.

[mossy birch]

For heavy modular frame?

[oblique hound]

no for the mk2 pump

[warped pawn]

i have a shit ton of both those but i just need heavy modular frames

[mossy birch]

Find a way to place it well.

[warped pawn]

can i connect machines to other machines to transfer power?

[oblique hound]

for what though?
am i interpreting this wrong?

[warped pawn]

works with lights so idk

[frank hinge]

Nope!

[warped pawn]

what are u interpreting?

[mossy birch]

Otherwise I would have used a technique.

[oblique hound]

why would you have to use mk1 pumps?

[mossy birch]

But uhh, my factory in sections it’s rather clean, but the section where resources are exchanged between different machines… a huge hot mess.

[oblique hound]

OH for the unlock

[mossy birch]

But it works.

[oblique hound]

sorry im dumb lol

[mossy birch]

Simply because if you have a very tall pipe, the fluid cannot reach to the destination.

[oblique hound]

oh, it was also changed in 1.0 to modular frame, I was wrong on both accounts

[warped pawn]

to bring water up

look in #screenshots i have an example there

[oblique hound]

still had U8 brain of what mk2 pumps needed

[sharp sentinel]

There any way to stop grass phasing through foundations?

[oblique hound]

yeah, sorry, I forgot that the mk2 pump recipie was changed in 1.0 to require hmfs, so i didnt understand why you couldnt use them if you didnt have hmfs lol

[boreal musk]

build higher

[warped pawn]

oh icic

[warped pawn]

building low sucks its better to lift ur factory higher while u just starting

[mossy birch]

Best way to make nuclear pasta? (Especially copper powder.)

[sharp sentinel]

I could have sworn back in EA I never saw grass clipping so much.

[vagrant oar]

use 4m founds for floors

[warped pawn]

i always do

[mossy birch]

Me is one metre with lift.

[vagrant oar]

in EA you probably built higher, and now that you're back to playing the game you're just building lower :P

[warped pawn]

never use 1meter for floors

[mossy birch]

Well… why?

[vagrant oar]

1m is good for flooring but not foundation

[mossy birch]

Though it’s clearly detached from the ground.

[sharp sentinel]

Ah well, it won't bother me too much eventually. No way in heck I'm rebuilding a three story factory just because grass is in the floor.

[warped pawn]

ive done that too many times

[oblique hound]

I use 1 or 2m for floors within buildings and 4m for foundations and walls

gives more space for machines on each floor

[sharp sentinel]

These factories are setup so that ever new phase I just add another floor and it works out.

[mossy birch]

I have some dreams of building actual factories in the game but I am terrible at doing so.

[pseudo holly]

last playthrough i used 4m for all foundations and then i had way too thick ceilings. now im using 1m and my bottom foundations are way too low

god i wish there was some sort of solution to this condundrum

[mossy birch]

(I have no clue why nuclear pasta feels so tasty.)

[sharp sentinel]

I was so determined to make a save where I didn't have conveyors going all over, and here I am with like 1000m of conveyor from a coal node to some generators. I also just realised instead of goofing around and weaving two separate lines of coal I could have used stackables.

[vagrant oar]

I should take a few shots of our rotor stator motor factory

[warped pawn]

i do half walls for wires pipes and conveyors

[sharp sentinel]

Oh well, they aren't obstructing anything so NBD.

[vagrant oar]

one of my favourite builds so far

[pseudo holly]

is this like you have a small sub-floor just for conveying and piping stuff around

[mossy birch]

I will try to reach 1,000,000,000,000 points in awesome sink per minute.

[warped pawn]

no its within the walls

[pseudo holly]

i see

[warped pawn]

its smaller than a full block tho

[oblique hound]

you mean half foundations or...

if so i do the same thing

[warped pawn]

i can send example in #screenshots if youd like

[pseudo holly]

i havent built a single wall in my playthrough and im almost in phase 5

[vagrant oar]

small env storytelling detail I included is that the bottom foundations look like they used to be underwater, which became the dune desert :3

[sharp sentinel]

My favourite thing I did this save is a 3 foundation by 3 foundation factory that only makes modular frames and is 3 floors.

Because most saves I end up hand-crafting almost all of them.

[warped pawn]

check screenshot channel thats how i do it

[warped pawn]

i havent made mini factories yet

[sharp sentinel]

That was me my last playthrough. All the way to nuclear.

[oblique hound]

ah, pocket walls!
i used to do those in my factories but they have gotten to be a bit cumbersome so i stopped...

might try them again though

[warped pawn]

yeah those i forgot the name but yeah theyre super useful and kinda look good if not spagetti pipes/conveyors

[pseudo holly]

yeah thats pretty good

[oblique hound]

i usually route lines like that on the ceilings, it looks kind of like ductwork or something which looks pretty cool if you do it right

[pseudo holly]

i make it so all the conveyors for transporting stuff around my base is at max conveyor support height above the floor

Still got a lot of mysterious conveyors phasing through buildings

[warped pawn]

i also do that sometimes in really wide builds so i build a fake roof to run all the wires

[oblique hound]

if i did that I would die inside from how spindly the belt supports would look lol

[lethal raptor]

[warped pawn]

i restarted one of my huge factories cuz of that, well just a huge wall but it had a ton of decor so it took a long time to rebuild

[pseudo holly]

rip

[oblique hound]

obligatory uzu hehe appearance

[abstract heron]

hi uzu 🙂

[scarlet canopy]

You can't connect two vertical splitters with a lift?

[warped pawn]

can u show an example?

[scarlet canopy]

Just place a lift and put two splitters on it destroy the lift and try to Connect again

[abstract heron]

did mikael say a friday video?

[keen dagger]

What's a road corner barrier?

[covert vault]

Anyone know how to fix the train stations showing at the wrong location on the map bug?

[little estuary]

is there any buildable in satisfactory without mods to fill gap between 2 splitters (built vertically on top of each other) which is left after removing one splitter between them? (server doesnt seem to allow loading images)

[oblique hound]

theres many options, personally I would use some pillars and beams if I cared enough

[main spire]

i've got my gastro followup today since i got my gallbladder removed months ago and im wanting to build something but im not quite sure yet, thinking about another specialized foundry since i just set up the iron mine for it. ping me if yall have ideas

[little estuary]

beams im not familiar with but they seem to require to be pre-placed (before splitters)

[sick heart]

how about a massive iron plate factory shaped like a gall bladder

[warped pawn]

post in #screenshots

[oblique hound]

do you mean something to specifically fill that space? because that doesnt exist

you could just leave an unconnected splitter inbetween

[little estuary]

i usually used stackable conveyor pole but i wonder is there anything more cubic style

[little estuary]

unconnected feels wrong O;

[oblique hound]

alr, what I would do is place a small metal pillar between, or maybe a frame if you want

ill send a sc once my game finsishes updating

[main spire]

i mean, i'd like to honor my gallbladder but not with something like that lmao

[glossy iris]

its actually kinda crazy|| just how much more space you get moving from mk1 to mk2 blueprints||

[warped pawn]

why spoilerr

[glossy iris]

I spoiler later game content for those who don't know yet :3

I was caught off guard the first time I found out myself

[merry mountain]

Splash screen still shows v1.1.1.0 after the update

[oblique hound]

yeah, it takes a bit to update because its fetched over network rather than baked into the game

just check the changelist number in top left to see if it actually updated

[sour ledge]

lmao its a good thing this isn't a survival/combat kinda game sometimes. There were a bunch of bushes/trees around my oil refinery, so as i walked by i casually.. chucked a bomb at my oil refinery... to clear out the flora

only realized how absurd that was when looking down and seeing explosion marks all over my oil pipeline

[warped pawn]

thats a thing??

i might do that to decorate my stuff lmao

[sour ledge]

oh they don't persist

[mortal ginkgo]

they dont stay more than 1 or 2 seconds

and if they did, decals can be truly costly when used in everywhere

[warped pawn]

ah dang

[ripe basin]

Why is the patch 2,7 gygabites

[warped pawn]

thats a ton for a patch dang

tons of bugs prob

[simple parcel]

Does anybody have a train handbook?

[swift goblet]

This is such a noob question, however, I only have one builder/destruct gun...per usual. Why don't I have the second gun? how can I get it?

[true mulch]

lol what?

[warped pawn]

i dont understand thi, what other gun do u want?

paint??

[true mulch]

you have one tool to build, dismantle, customize and scan for resources

[swift goblet]

I alway see in the videos that there is a second hand with a gun...shall I privide a video link?

[warped pawn]

none of which occupy space

[true mulch]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Category:Equipment

[warped pawn]

ohh

[ripe basin]

It's a remote for hoverpack

[true mulch]

hoverpack?

[warped pawn]

thats for a hover pack

yeah

[true mulch]

tier 7 stuff

[swift goblet]

ahhhhh...thank you. that makes sense.

[warped pawn]

i dont rlly understand them yet, it seems like they lose power in the air but also gain power

[true mulch]

they connect to nearby powered buildings

in a spherical range

[warped pawn]

ohh so exploring isnt an option with them pretty much

unless u bring a wire with u the entire way

[brave horizon]

How to make friends

[true mulch]

exactly

[brave horizon]

According to satisfactory players

Start answering

Or I’ll feed you to my snail Grim

[white dawn]

Yeah, hoverpack is more of a building aid than an exploration aid. Though dragging power behind you can be handy, and enemy mobs typically don't deal well with a permanently-hovering pioneer. :)

[brave horizon]

Ever since he at the somersloop he thinks he’s god

[sharp sentinel]

Me: Aw man, I don't have enough slugs.
My lizard doggo right beside me: psst. Wanna slug?

[warped pawn]

how are they tamed, i killed one cuz he was running from me 😭

[sharp sentinel]

You drop a pale berry from your inventory.

I don't think they respawn. I do know I have six now.

Oh dang, just noticed it was a pink slug too. He really a G.

[warped pawn]

so they js follow u or like u gotta contain them?

[leaden ether]

Also you need to not be wearing your blade runners...

[warped pawn]

good to know

[frigid void]

do you need to have experimental branch turned on in steam to still access the new features?

[sharp sentinel]

I haven't had an issue when wearing my runners.

[pseudo holly]

wasnt there an advantage to packaged diluted fuel

[leaden ether]

Huh, okay that was what I was told months ago when I asked about it. Good to know 😄 (Maybe old news from the EA?)

[warped pawn]

theres an adventage making heavy oil residue

[humble plank]

Is ther an update now? My game is updating but I don't see anything announced

[true mulch]

#patch-notes ?

[frigid void]

same here, and i'm wondering if you need to still have experimental branch turned on

[pseudo holly]

is it cause of the cost ratio or something

[leaden ether]

Yeah I downgraded back to 1.0 due to my save not loading and there might have been a stealth update today, steam redownloaded 1.1 on me and I had to downgrade again just now. (Okay not so stealth)

[pseudo holly]

oh wait i see what you mean

[true mulch]

nope, the patch notes would have "(EXPERIMENTAL)" in the header

[pseudo holly]

instead of making fuel you make heavy oil residue and then fuel

[true mulch]

over what? fuel or diluted fuel?

[pseudo holly]

Diluted

[humble plank]

AH, I see the patch notes (I was looking in announcements)

[warped pawn]

its cuz u make more fuel from the heavy oil residue and the polymer resin can be converted to plastic/rubber

[true mulch]

it's unlocked sooner (before a space elevator phase, aluminum and blenders)

otherwise it's less power efficient to craft compared to diluted fuel

[pseudo holly]

rip i didnt select the heavy oil residue alternate

i had the chance

[humble plank]

Looks like update happend within the past hour... okay...

[sharp sentinel]

Kinda sucks I can't go back and add stackable conveyors to pre-existing belts.

[humble plank]

... HOPEFULLY this will make my server more stable ...

Im sick of the crashes all the time

[warped pawn]

its hard to make changes like that without fucking up everything

id say just fill a battery and just work as fast as u can

[paper forum]

i love how in this game i start building a factory and about half way through i give up and it turns into spaghetti

[heady radish]

How did you all do steel production? I was looking at a video for different layouts to make ingots,beams and pipes but they required 270/min of ore which i think means mk2 miners and mk3 belts which require alot of steel in themselves? (need steel to make steel?!)

[reef basin]

if you need 270/min ore, that doesn't mean you need it on one belt

(also I'd heavily recommend to make your own layouts rather than copying other people's layouts)

[harsh kayak]

Is there any way to make a finish default?

So that i don't have to manually put it on everything i build afterwards

[elfin portal]

any issues after todays update? I seem to be stuck on loading screen when I try to connect to dedicated server

[vestal mica]

i'm just going to wait for patch 1.1.1.1.1

[paper forum]

i speedran getting to mk4 belts and fuel generators, many hours of hand crafting while i did something else 😅

now i'm building proper automations, before the only things i had automated were reinforced plates and copper wire/sheets

[glad zodiac]

Have you also seen the army of birds walking in the main menu :D. I've just seen it like a minute ago.

[winter salmon]

Has anyone else got the death crate bug

[dawn berry]

WHY was the extra splash screens added? 😢
Takes ages longer to load the game...

[vocal ivy]

Has anyone else died enough times to get a message or is that just me?

[ivory condor]

I saw them, thought it was some sort of easter bug, that's a army of birds alright

[south sinew]

how can I use SCIM to search for resources found at crash sites? could really use an injection of Computers and Circuit Boards

[hard ivy]

yes

[elder apex]

Or use this page as a crash site reference: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2661233686

[frail flame]

Anyone want to start a world together?

[south sinew]

cheers

[cosmic junco]

fyi, you can use the no splash screens mod to remove them

[tropic dawn]

is there any way in satisfactory calculator production planner channge Miner from mk3 to mk2..?

[ivory condor]

Soon there wil be mods to remove the game itself

[young mason]

henlo
so uh I tried joining somebody's game, the game crashed
after the game crashed I restarted it and it still crashed
I tried deleting it from my Steam library and completely reinstalling it and it crashed again

any idea on what I can do now
this is the stable latest version of 1.1

[dawn berry]

Incompatible tho

[young mason]

also tried restarting my pc and cold booting it

[ivory condor]

I just try not to question the fatal error crashes now

[young mason]

I wouldn't either except I can't play the game
I'm fully locked out

[ivory condor]

I had that issue the other day I couldn't even make it to the games menu screen because the game kept crashing

[young mason]

same to me rn

it crashes on startup

GPU Crash dump

[ivory condor]

That's the same problem i had, though your getting a gpu crash dump, that seems to be a very common crash in 1.1 for whatever reason

[young mason]

mm

[ivory condor]

I even had a few gpu crashes myself to now that I think about it

[young mason]

it only happened after I tried to join somebody

and now the game just always crashes on startup

restarting pc and steam and reinstalling and whatnot doesn't fix it

[ivory condor]

Idk 1.1 doesn't exactly seem stable, its hard to tell what exactly is happening

[young mason]

fair

[true mulch]

open a #1038092680493801533 thread with the crash reporter output in text

[young mason]

ohh perfect!

[waxen parcel]

Doing my monthly check-in on console updates (month 6 since announcement). Where we at gang

[leaden turret]

you can wishlist it on xbox/ps5 storefronts

[waxen parcel]

That found its way on my wishlist the moment it appeared. Need more than that!

[leaden turret]

you can crossplay between consoles but not with pcs or dedicated servers

[ivory condor]

Honestly i have lost count how many times the game has crashed for me now. Im mostly disabling as many features as I think might be causing them to try to improve game stability

[waxen parcel]

Okay no concerns there. Holding out for release date, thank you

[young mason]

but like I can't start the game so I can't change those

😔

maybe it's a nvidia thing for some reason

[reef basin]

#1201555265942724758

[reef basin]

get a PC instead

[ivory condor]

Have you tried forcing Vulcan, directx11 yet?

[young mason]

via nvidia control panel?

or nvidia app?

[ivory condor]

Steam launch options

You can force older api via -dx11

[waxen parcel]

I have a PC! Have enjoyed Satisfactory for years. My friends play on console though, and I'm excited to jump in with them

[ivory condor]

I remember back in 1.0, dx12 would keep crashing so I had to force dx11 just so I could play the game

[young mason]

let me seeeeee

[reef basin]

get PC friends instead, ditch console for PC master race

[viral tendon]

I have a question, my power pole is in hot bar, i just unlocked power pole mk 2, but it keeps using mk 1's, what do i do

Power line i meant

[reef basin]

power line uses the power pole from which you draw it afaik

unless I'm misremembering and it defaults to mk1

[south sinew]

yeah if I draw it from P2, I get P2

[reef basin]

but you can just upgrade in place if you want

[viral tendon]

Thanks

It doesn't default to mk 1

It depends from which one you do it

Also any tips how to find more sowersloops? I have the scanner device for them but it's really a struggle

A lot of them are in places that i can't reach bercause there's poison

[south sinew]

you need to make steel and turn that into explosives

[viral tendon]

What

[south sinew]

steel + sulfur + coal = bombs, which destroy the poison producing plants/statues

[viral tendon]

Well i believe i don't have it unlocked

Is there any way i can bypass the poison?

Like gas mask

[south sinew]

gas mask also requires steel if I recall

[viral tendon]

I didn;t unlock both i think

[lime ermine]

Mam research answers both of those

[south sinew]

but a lot of stuff is also hidden behind rocks you have to explode

[viral tendon]

When will i unlock gas mask

[south sinew]

so bombs is just better than gas mask, solves the poison problem and the rocks problem

[lime ermine]

Yeah

And the spider problem

[south sinew]

yeah also that

[viral tendon]

Stingers

I turned on arachonoppobia mode so they're easier to spot

[south sinew]

really, if you don't have steel, you can't access a lot of stuff and you can't use it even if you could access it anyway

so it makes a lot more sense to progress into at least Tier 3 before you go exploring

[viral tendon]

I'm on phase 2 rn

[sullen gull]

Out of curiosity, any one mess with the Circuitry mod yet? (Not looking for help, just opinions)

[viral tendon]

I have to complete phase 3

Also i found out that it's somewhy mk 1 by default

The power line thingym if you get it from buildings

[sullen gull]

If you pull from a mk1 pole or outlet, then yeah, mk1 is default. If you pull from a mk2/3 pole, it will default to which ever is pulled respectively.

[south sinew]

If you're on phase 2, you can access steel in Tier 3, so you just need to find some sulfur and coal, then you can make all the bombs you want

[naive pendant]

@viral tendon You know about the middle mouse (?) select on buildables to grab a buildable into your cursor right? Also you can cycle between different tiers of a buildable by pressing "e".

[south sinew]

and clear poison and rocks

[viral tendon]

Ik i'm not doing alat

[viral tendon]

I don't have bombs unlocked

[south sinew]

they are unlocked from just sulfur and coal

[viral tendon]

How much more times do i have to say that

Well i don't hafe them

[sullen gull]

There isn't anything "special" to unlock basic nobelisks.

[south sinew]

well, if you aren't going to go get the tools that you need, then you're going to be sorely disappointed in the results of your efforts, yes

[viral tendon]

Cool, doesn't change a thing

[south sinew]

hmm I'm wandering around grassy fields right now trying to figure out where I should start my base

[red sun]

you'll need to explore quite the distance very soon anyway. plus you can always move the hub :)

[south sinew]

not the starter base, my "the whole rest of the game" base

[viral tendon]

I believe i started my base where i spawned

[red sun]

the whole rest of the game base is the whole rest of the map 🙃

[sullen gull]

Cool, well you received help and advice to deal with poison rocks early game and and how to get to some of the sommersloops, and you seemingly just want to be combative about it.

[south sinew]

it's really more of a specific part of the rest of the map ;p

[viral tendon]

I believe i didn't recieve any help about finding somersloops, i said multiple times tht i didn't unlock bombs yet, i don't need to know when i could unlock them

And how to craft them

[south sinew]

the only way to find more somersloops is to find the somersloops that are blocked by poison and rocks, otherwise there is nothing more that you can do

it's either go unlock bombs or keep doing what you are doing

[viral tendon]

Also i asked when i can unlock gas mask, didn't recieve any answer

[viral tendon]

I believe i'm fine

[south sinew]

#satisfactory message

it's when you have steel, just like bombs

[alpine apex]

i hate heavy modular frames

[viral tendon]

They're not that hard to make

How much of them do you need

[alpine apex]

ik but like why does it need to much for so little

[south sinew]

wait until you meet fused modular frames

[alpine apex]

im just making a factory to store them or use them later

[alpine apex]

oh no

[south sinew]

oh yes.

[alpine apex]

oh lord

i just saw it

[viral tendon]

Heavy modular frames are really easy to do lol

[sullen gull]

Because in answer to your other question, it was suggested/ you were informed that you will need bombs. As for the gas mask, you have to unlock it yourself in the MAM.

[alpine apex]

i think drugs are less adicting then satisfactory

[alpine apex]

ik but they need so much diferente recources

[fathom shuttle]

Definitely true, I’ve quit meth after starting satisfactory

[viral tendon]

Thank you, but wikipidea says it's unlocked by milestones, may i ask where can i unlock gas mask?

[faint epoch]

i need help in the video tab when i click the frame generation butten nothiung happons pls help

[south sinew]

same as bombs, in the MAM

[viral tendon]

Maybe i got lucky but i just picked a spot where everything is close

[sullen gull]

!wikisearch gas mask

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=gas

[viral tendon]

I know in mam, where in mam

[south sinew]

mycelium

[sullen gull]

!wikisearch gas+mask

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=gas+mask

[alpine apex]

i found it too, theres coal and iron here

[viral tendon]

Thank you, the fandom wiki says it's unlocked on tier 5

[faint epoch]

i need help in the video tab when i click the frame generation butten nothing happons pls help.

[viral tendon]

Thanks

[leaden ether]

I always thought that Heavy Mod Frames were a little bit too complicated a building mechanism for what they are. I.e. they REALLY didn't need to be a fully packed manufacturer at the level if Item they are. But that's just my feeling. Same with the Radio Control units. They take a TON of resources and are slower to make that I feel is necessary.

[viral tendon]

Well just overclock the shit out of them and do your thing, make sure they're normal and not impure

If you find good spot and you have good logistics you will be fine

[alpine apex]

i just sent a picture in #screenshots

it only makes screws and reinforced plates rn

[faint epoch]

nice

[sullen gull]

Fandom is no longer the offical wiki fyi.

[viral tendon]

Lemme send mine real quick, have to do some things because i don't produce enough power

[sullen gull]

And should not be used

[viral tendon]

Yeah it looks like so

[faint epoch]

i need help in the video tab when i click the frame generation butten nothing happons pls help.

[sullen gull]

What video tab are you referring?

Oh, nm

[sharp sentinel]

Aw dang. Gotta decide which oil field to use. I named one Bush Oil Fields and one Texas, both are about the same distance from me and likely require similar amounts of work to truck to my main location if I opt to do so.

[sullen gull]

Press ~ and type stat fps. Check it before and after setting frame gen.

@faint epoch

[faint epoch]

it wont let me hit the butten when i click nothing happons

[sullen gull]

Then you most likely don't have support for it. Are you using DX11 or 12?

[faint epoch]

dx 11

[sharp sentinel]

I think I'm going to go for Texas, and rename it to something as witty as he Bush Oil Fields. Any suggestions?

[sullen gull]

I could be wrong, but I don't believe DX11 supports frame gen

[faint epoch]

ill boot in dx 12 and try

[viral tendon]

Is alien power augmenter worth it?

[faint epoch]

kinda

it gives me a free 10000 watts but i dont know what to do to get mnore

[viral tendon]

That's 2x my max cosumption

[sullen gull]

If still not available, then maybe the video card does not support it. But I am not completely familiar with what is required.

[faint epoch]

it works in dx 12 thanks

[sullen gull]

Max consumption will go up in the later game. More so when in phase 4

[viral tendon]

I have like 5k because i love to overclock things

[sullen gull]

As do I as I perfer using the minimum amount of machines as possible.

[viral tendon]

I would use somersloop but i need just 5 more for alien power

[leaden ether]

I've got 4 of them and 2 of them overpowered. Feeding them power augmenters is late game and tricky, but having 4 of them running throughout my play REALLY helped out with the power. Currently 50% of my 300GW of power is from the augmentors

[viral tendon]

How tf did you get 40 somersloops

[sullen gull]

Exploration

[faint epoch]

how many fps do you think a 4090 gets with ulta settings

[viral tendon]

I believe it's also about cpu

[faint epoch]

with 14900k

[viral tendon]

Yeah if my xeon and 4060 gives 90 fps on ultra

[leaden ether]

WIth nearly all max settings and framegen I sat at 144 capped for nearly all my 800 hours of game play. Now that I've really maxed out things in world it's dropped some and gotten variable between 80 and 120

[viral tendon]

I believe your beast could give 500 fps idk

[faint epoch]

i have 600 and am on teir 8 and get 250

600 hours i mean

[leaden ether]

The drops to 80 SEEM to be it loading in content as I move around and it does some live optimisation or something and generally goes back up to 120 when I stop moving around the map and concentrate on building in one location

[sullen gull]

Bout the same here : 9800x3d, 128gb ram, 4070Ti

[leaden ether]

Oh I should mention, that frame rate is at 3440x1440. Yeah at 1080 it would get 3x my monitors 144 FPS refresh rate 😛

[faint epoch]

128 what why do you need so much is it ddr5

[sullen gull]

Reasons 🙂

[faint epoch]

what do you do and how many tabs

i need more aluminum and i am going to bulid in swap but first i need help on what to do andy sugsetions

[viral tendon]

@alpine apex Check out how i make modular frames

I sent in #screenshots

[faint epoch]

bruh

why so many

[sullen gull]

Fyi, you can link directly to your post by clicking the 3 dots and clicking Copy Message Link

[alpine apex]

nice

[vagrant oar]

I'm sad we still don't have just a clear glass frame tbh

[alpine apex]

what tier are u in?

[vagrant oar]

like I want to make enormous windows without lines in them

[viral tendon]

Ik i pinged him there

[viral tendon]

Idk i'm making ficsit blueprints mk 2 and completeing phase 3

[faint epoch]

look in screen shot

[viral tendon]

Is that like elevator on steroids

[faint epoch]

yeah but the elevat barly dosent make it to the top

it makes me mad

look at my oil 92 refiners

[vagrant oar]

please fix your HOR pipes 😭

[faint epoch]

huh

[vagrant oar]

they're making a weird bend instead of having nice 90 degree curves

[faint epoch]

i did that at 4 am its perfect deal with it i took blood sweat and a lot of tears

[vagrant oar]

clearly wasn't enough

it looks sick tho

[faint epoch]

i know it looks bad ill fix it sometime but my trainb look good

look in screen shots

[vagrant oar]

yeah your train looks smooth

oh that looks neat

[faint epoch]

thx spiders piss me off so i blew up almost whole swamp

[keen dagger]

#screenshots message

90 enough?

Passive mode is king

[faint epoch]

get out

[viral tendon]

I wish we had like infinite storage because that blue shit that comes out fuel made by oil is annoying

[faint epoch]

theres passive mode

use it in awsome sink

[viral tendon]

Wait

[faint epoch]

for the resim

[viral tendon]

That's smart

[keen dagger]

turn it in to plastic

[faint epoch]

thats what i do or make it into rubbeer or plastice

[viral tendon]

Awesome sink is so awesome

[faint epoch]

no its not i accitdently sank important green card documents so now im in mexico

[viral tendon]

How much points did you get

[faint epoch]

69

[viral tendon]

That's a lie lemme try rq

[sullen gull]

Or fabric. And then sink if you want. More points that way. (And will need fabric anyhow for filters later)

[mortal pond]

do you still need water for something after changing to fuel?

[viral tendon]

I was deported on mars

[faint epoch]

no elon

[viral tendon]

Yep, for refinery to make some things, but it's optional

[sullen gull]

Not sure how you mean. But there are many recipes that call for water.

[mortal pond]

makes sense

[viral tendon]

He means he needed water for coal powered generators, and now he got fuel powered generators

[faint epoch]

just use nukes like a man to blow up your problems

[trim vine]

Why cant I rotate direction when in straight build mode on pipes and belts?

[sullen gull]

Um .. I ... do .. ? #screenshots message

[mortal pond]

but then now I can just forget about biofuel finally? (using it for jetpack)

[sullen gull]

Yeah, annoying. I usually just drag to see where I want/need to go, then just lay a pole/wall/ceiliind mount wherever.

[viral tendon]

Ye you can now package fuel

[faint epoch]

demensinal depots are the best

[sullen gull]

Liquid Bio Full is VERY useful until you get to Ionized later in game.

[faint epoch]

how do you get ionized

[viral tendon]

I believe it's atomic fuel

I remember that cuz i played subnautica and there was ion cubes

Am i the only one who thought subnautica and satisfactory are from the same developer

[faint epoch]

what

[tropic plover]

Is it possible to lock your progress?
As in, you dont do something in time or in the wrong order which means you can no longer progress?

[faint epoch]

no

just power

[heady radish]

is there a way to split 15/m rods \ 30/m ingot into 10/m screws? Im trying to automate rotors (and plates for smart plating) but the ratio of rods to screws is different from ingots to rods.

[mortal pond]

sounds possible tbh

[tropic plover]

Well, I just unlocked Fuel, and will be gearing up to build oil extractors and refineries and fuel power stations but I see that there are by products to refining, if there is no more space for those products I assume the fuel power stations will shut down?

[viral tendon]

Both games are super addicting and also as fun

[open pollen]

They will shut down if a biproduct is filled, but that does not lock your progress in the game it is just something you have to deal with

[marble fractal]

If I have water being produced by a machine that I don’t want to use, how can I dispose of it?

[faint epoch]

is there any way to stop wildlife from respwoning

[viral tendon]

Press f and dispose it

[faint epoch]

ive killed the same hog 10000 times

[viral tendon]

Or just turn it off

[marble fractal]

But I went it automatically disposed

Is there like an auto flush thing?

[viral tendon]

Nah

Just turn it off

[faint epoch]

poackege it and awsome sink it

[open pollen]

Or use the water in other recipes

[tropic plover]

Okay thanks.
Seems like Im going to have to then build a whole bunch of stuff near my fuel power plants when i make them which is 2km away from my main base at the moment.
I also assume I cant add the power from those fuel stations to my main grid due to the distance?

[viral tendon]

That sink si sure awesome

[marble fractal]

That’s what I was thinking just was curious if there was an easier way, thanks

[open pollen]

Just extend/build a big or small power pole chain and you can bring power anywhere

[viral tendon]

We need to be able to grow somersloops

[faint epoch]

a ton of fluid bufgfer

[viral tendon]

Which you can fluff manually

Full network

[reef basin]

no, process your byproducts 🙂

[tropic plover]

So if I have everything on the same "grid, regardless of distance, it will all work together?

[marble fractal]

Wdym process them

[reef basin]

that would be imbalanced

[reef basin]

use them in recipes

[marble fractal]

Not worth it

[open pollen]

Also, if you get the tool to ride zip lines and do the big power towers it makes long trips to other factories easier early on tbh

[viral tendon]

I';ve found like 7 somersloops in 180 hours

[reef basin]

always worth it

[open pollen]

Yep

[marble fractal]

Just water

[faint epoch]

has anyone finish depot reserch

[reef basin]

much easier than packaging and sinking

[marble fractal]

No not at all

[reef basin]

yes, totally

[tropic plover]

I do have it but getting smacked off th eline at every pole and not able to go up hill makes it useless

[mortal pond]

I'm way more into satisfactory but I understand

[open pollen]

The big power towers don’t smack you off so are good for long distance travel, you just keep going forward non stop till the end unless you jump off

[reef basin]

most of the processes that produce byproduct water also need water in larger quantity, so you just use it in the same factory

instead of making extra canisters, packaging and sinking

[smoky knoll]

v1.1.1.1 is out? 😮 v1.1.1.1.0.1 waiting room

[marble fractal]

I guess ur right, I will do that instead even tho I already started sinking lol

[open pollen]

Are you pressing the forward key when riding power lines? You should be able to go up hill

[faint epoch]

has anyone finish depot reserch

[tropic plover]

Need to do some upgrading then

[reef basin]

yes, almost everyone who got to mid-lategame imo

[viral tendon]

Guys is awesome sink awesome enough

[faint epoch]

then why are people complaining about somerslopps

[midnight fog]

What is depot research

[reef basin]

because somersloops have nothing to do with depots?

[faint epoch]

the demesonal depot sorry for spelong\

i cant spell wtf

[viral tendon]

I just found out i could throw little blue shit into awesome sink now my life is 15x easier

[faint epoch]

good boy

[mortal pond]

Don't ask that to a Ficsit employee

[reef basin]

yeah, that has nothing to do with sloops

[ripe basin]

Good evening my dudes

[faint epoch]

i know

[marble fractal]

Is there anything u can flush down the toilet that is recommended to do?

[faint epoch]

you worst enemy

[mortal ginkgo]

who are complaining about it and why?

they are most awesome stuff ever

can use multiple for an item etc

[faint epoch]

yeah i dont have to have anything in my inventory it only took 150 mercerspeers and half my life

[mortal ginkgo]

i mean you dont need that much

[faint epoch]

i do

[marble fractal]

Are Mercer spheres renewable?

[reef basin]

no

[faint epoch]

i think some return

[marble fractal]

So what if u got all of them and threw them off the map? U cant do anything?

[faint epoch]

i have gotten two from the same area

[reef basin]

you can't build depots, you can do everything else

[faint epoch]

your get your own dunce cap

[viral tendon]

Can we address the fact that satisfactory should be illegal cuz it's more addicting that anything in this world

[midnight fog]

They are gone forever

[marble fractal]

That’s a little silly

[faint epoch]

you become a moron

[reef basin]

no, a little silly is throwing spheres from the map

[marble fractal]

Accidents happen

[reef basin]

autosaves exist

[viral tendon]

Well now i have 3 more power generators

[mortal pond]

you can't just trash can it?

[faint epoch]

crap my power faild

[marble fractal]

What if u accidentally flushed a Mercer sphere down the toilet, no getting it back?

[faint epoch]

find more

[reef basin]

and I can't imagine a situation in which you gather all 300ish spheres before you use any in research or building, and then accidentally throw them all from the cliff in such a way that the crate is unreachable, AND at the same delete all autosaves AND can't use save editor to bring them back

[marble fractal]

U never know

[reef basin]

I do know

[mortal ginkgo]

stupidity should have consequences.

throwing away items that important just means you are doing it on purpose anyway

toilet flushing doesnt give item back. one can see that by testing it with a regular item

[faint epoch]

this need voice chat

[reef basin]

no

[mortal ginkgo]

no

[mortal pond]

yes

[marble fractal]

But at the same time u don’t know if a merger sphere has the same flushing abilities as a regular items

[prime crane]

thank god trains don't delete if they fall off the map in a collision

[reef basin]

last time we had voice chats, they were half of the time empty and half of the time full of trolls and earrape. Unusable, not possible to moderate, ... Good riddance

[faint epoch]

there are 430 mercer spher your fine if you flush one

[mortal ginkgo]

brotherman it is a toilet. you flush things and lose them.

its not rocket science.

[mortal pond]

you can make it AWESOME?

[mortal ginkgo]

430 mercer sphere?

[marble fractal]

Well u could say the same thing about a sink, an item goes in and u lose it. But the power slugs don’t get lost. There is no way of knowing

[mortal pond]

or just happens the same than with the slugs?

[mortal ginkgo]

sink doesnt accept everything. toilet does.

if you are not an actually real can of pepsi, you can load an autosave if you wanna test it out.

it is still not silly. you are silly.

after all, you are a can of pepsi.

[marble fractal]

That’s my point tho how was I supposed to know toilets works on everything lol. U tried making it seem like it was obvious

[midnight fog]

Coke is better anyway

[viral tendon]

Why don't we have awesome awesome sink

[faint epoch]

look in screen shot not so scarry

[mortal pond]

that's deep

[viral tendon]

I love pepsi more it's less sweet

[sullen gull]

You only 'progress' through the game by completeing MAM research, Completeing the Milestones, and completeing the Space elevator parts. As for trying to stay near a "main base", the game is designed for you to spreadt out and build usually more near to the nodes of resources for what you are trying to make. While you "can" very well go through the work of bringing all your resources to one location, It can cause other issues (especially with fluids) that could need troubleshooting.

[marble fractal]

I drink Pepsi with ice

[hard ivy]

why would you even put anything valuable in the toilet, nevermind actually fucking try to flush it