satisfactory

[plain marten]

i always just overproduce everything or underproduce i dont really care as long as its making enough items per minute. my consumption fluctuates so much

[merry kettle]

There are -hundreds- of smart splitters there, and that setup just -barely- manages to deal with the incoming cargo. The biggest issue is that you can have ten freight stations dumping iron ore together, and you basically need ten output iron ore belts to keep up with that or else everything starts backing up - or, as I utilized, a buffering system.

So the smart splitter -tries- to dump iron ore, and if the output belt is full, instead it overflows down the line, and then a later smart splitter tries the same thing, and on and on, until finally it loops back on itself.

[plain marten]

i havent faced that kind of cargo problems yet im only at phase 4 about to automate assembly director systems

[merry kettle]

I did it to myself. Mixing cargo is viable but be aware you'll have to deal with it later

[plain marten]

i only mix right now because my stuff doesnt require huge item flows

damn i wonder how crowded my rail lin eis gonna get in the future

[merry kettle]

It never needs to get that crowded, that's basically post-end-game stuff.

[sick heart]

can this be done?

[plain marten]

luckily most of my rail is already double track

only small outposts use single track

[merry kettle]

Ish, but not in a general way. You can potentially cause the train to go "backwards" such that 1 and 4 are flipped and 2 and 3 are flipped

[trim vine]

@sullen gull yes, but on the bottom side of it

[sullen gull]

Gimme a minute to clip it.

[sullen gull]

Wait, you 1.1 or 1.0?

[trim vine]

1

[trim vine]

does 1.0 limit me to the technology of my time? 😛

[sullen gull]

Haha, only unless you have infinite nudge?

[trim vine]

Ahhh, no, thats a 1.1 thing

ok, I will tweak my design then, no biggie

[sullen gull]

Though, the prinicples are the same I belileve.

One sec, this may or may not help

[sudden pumice]

what turns sand to concrete, a smelter ?

[sullen gull]

Ahh, I think I see how you could do it on 1.0, one sec

[prisma thicket]

A constructor turns Limestone into concrete

[sage wind]

Tips for building relatively uniform and clean rails?

How do you keep them consistent?

[prisma thicket]

Build on foundations

[cunning merlin]

You can upload the concrete to the dimensional depot for easy access anywhere anytime so it’s kind of like your own personal Google Drive except you can store items in it

[trim vine]

A constructor takes 45 limestone and makes 15 concrete

A refiner takes 120 limestone and 100 water for 80 concrete

And Assemblers can take 60 or 100 limestone and 15 or 20 silica or rubber respectively, and make 50 or 90 concrete, respectively

[sullen gull]

#screenshots message

[gentle stream]

I built a pretty big automated factory for smart plating (10/m) for phase 2 just to find out on the wiki that its used for nothing else and I couldve just temp automated it and manually put in the recources😭

[prisma thicket]

This is a new player you're talking to, just the constructor is fine lol

[hard ivy]

a lesson learned

[prisma thicket]

Smart Plating is used for other project parts

[trim vine]

a lot of planning and sticking to a world grid to start

or even more planning and not using the world grid 😛

[gentle stream]

yeah modular engine but by that point i prob need more then 10/m

[prisma thicket]

Not really, since modular engines only need 2 each, and craft at 1/minute, so 10/min is enough for 5/min worth of modular engines.

[gentle stream]

yeah prob

and now I find out I need motors for things which is one that i temp automated

[prisma thicket]

Lol motors are a big one, you want to make sure you have a steady supply of those for phase 3/4

[trim vine]

v cool

I believe the ability to nudge these frame pillars is also 1.1 somehow, as it wont let me nudge it at all

[sullen gull]

No, you're right. couple Minutes, steam clips decided to not let me record for some reason.

[gentle stream]

yeah sad should I make a huge factory just for motors to ship off to other parts or make motors with every factory

[trim vine]

do you like trains?

[gentle stream]

i think they r cool im unlocking them soon

[trim vine]

then ship them

or, like most us, do a mix and match where needed

[gentle stream]

i gotta get oil power bcs my max power is like 400 over my production

[sullen gull]

You can nudge a painted beam, after clicking once, and then hitting H right?

[trim vine]

yuup

[sullen gull]

Ok, cool

[prisma thicket]

How many coal generators do you currently have?

[gentle stream]

16

[trim vine]

but sadly, not the dang pillar frame

[sullen gull]

That's fine. one sec

[gentle stream]

12 was enough for a while but had to upgrade once i made a big modular frame factory

[prisma thicket]

Do you have Mk.2 Miners on your coal nodes?

[gentle stream]

yes

[trim vine]

its all good cutie, I am going with another design I had for a tall tower

[gentle stream]

both of them are 200% overclocked

[trim vine]

when 1.1 becomes available, your tutorial will be a godsend

[gentle stream]

what tutorial is in 1.1?

[prisma thicket]

If you're careful you can overclock both to 250% and add another 8 coal generators, you'll need the extra power to get your fuel power plant kickstarted anyways.

[brazen hinge]

I bought a 2000 dollar pc to play satisfactory at max graphics

[gentle stream]

yeah the reason my world is still existing with max power 400 over is bc for my older factorys i didnt include awesome sinks with an overflow smart splitter so they r just dormant until i take items out of them

also is there any reason to use awesome sinks for points, not just to destroy items because im already close to buying the entire shop

[prisma thicket]

Once you have fuel power up and running, you can go back and add awesome sinks so that you're constantly producing parts, and that way your max consumption and your actual consumption should just about match up.

[sullen gull]

You should be all good now

[prisma thicket]

You can use it to buy parts to help you unlock milestones faster. Also there's more stuff you'll unlock in the shop as you continue progressing the game.

[gentle stream]

nice thank you

[sullen gull]

Note that painted beam is in Diagonal mode. @trim vine

[gentle stream]

ooooooh you right i can buy motors and stuff

for 5 tickets and im broke so kinda useless

[prisma thicket]

If you haven't found any while exploring, grabbing stacks of rubber and plastic can help you unlocking the milestones for all the fuel related stuff, if you still need any of those.

[sage wind]

Can you measure distance? I want to place rail blueprints with anchors on a certain, consistent distance apart

[sullen gull]

Beams can 'measure' up to 40m at a time.

[prisma thicket]

Foundations are 8m across, so that's another good measure of distance.

[sullen gull]

Not sure what the max rail distance spacing is though

[prisma thicket]

Zoop 10, that's 80 meters

[sage wind]

If I place it max distance my blueprint can reach then that works I guess

[sullen gull]

But also be sure to make a 'single' one anchor BP, for those strange curves where the max BP distance wouldn't help.

[sage wind]

Can I move things around in the blueprint maker, or can I edit the blueprints

my platform is floating in the blueprint

[prisma thicket]

You can edit bps as much as you like

[sage wind]

I mean can I move this down without doing it again

#screenshots message

[prisma thicket]

Oh, no, you'll have to rebuild it unfortunately

[cunning merlin]

I noticed that if you have mods that can give you items before you’re supposed to have them in vanilla you can break the game, not in like crashing ways, but in ways that don’t make sense from a story perspective. Like if you get the dimensional depot before encountering the anomaly, ADA will act like it knows the entity for that segment and then later when you’re supposed to first come, Ada will act like it doesn’t know who this is. Be wary of that.

[gentle stream]

how much motors/m do you recommend for phase 2?

[hard ivy]

I'd say somewhere between 1 and 100/min

it's hard to give a more exact estimate

[eternal delta]

why dose the player cord command have "Bugitgo" in it befor the cords

[jovial oracle]

I just realized there is salt in my UPS 💀

It's doomed

[sage wind]

Can you nudge up/down when placing hologram?

[leaden turret]

vertical nudge is only on 1.1 at the moment

[leaden ether]

Or a mod, it was the one mod I installed for the initial playthrough.

[eternal delta]

Inf nude alows for full nudging

so if you are on 1.0 dowload the inf nude mod

[sullen gull]

@trim vine was talking about how to do this: #screenshots message Though that way is the better way than my first , regardless of v imo.

[sage scroll]

Is there a bug which causes MK6 belts to not be able to transport the full 1200 items / min ?

[hard ivy]

depends who you ask

I never had issues

but some people claim they had

[merry kettle]

I've observed some very specific circumstances in which the mk6 belt wasn't filling up, but it tended to be related to other things, not the belt itself

[sage scroll]

Right, so I uploaded my picture in #screenshots , there are 4 constructors pumping out 300 casings / min yet the left most two seem to be backed up. Am I missing something or are mk6 belts being funny ?

[merry kettle]

Is it being fed by a manifold left to right?

[hard ivy]

plug em into a sink to make sure it's not your fault

[sage scroll]

Yeah... they are plugged directly into the sink

[sage scroll]

Yes, from left to right

[hard ivy]

how much are they backing up? a little or a lot?

[sage scroll]

Into a couple of elevators and straight into a sink later down the line

[hard ivy]

i.e. what are the efficiencies in the machines?

[merry kettle]

Are the machines filling up, or do they have, say, 10 extra items and holding constant?

[sage scroll]

92% on the two left most machines, 100% on the two on the right

[sage scroll]

They are filling up to a full stack and every so often they stop producing untill a small amount is pushed out

[hard ivy]

that's ~1150 output

doesn't seem like a mk6 issue tbh

it would be like 1195 if it was I think

[sage scroll]

See, the interesting thing is, now the efficiency is at 95% and seems to be rising

[hard ivy]

efficiency takes several minutes of stable operation to be accurate

[merry kettle]

It's too high to be a lower level belt somewhere in the middle. What recipe are you using?

[sage scroll]

Aluminium casing, default recipe, fully OCd with sumersloop (300 / min)

So, the actual "building" so to say has 3 floors, each has 4 constructors which are all 100% full of aluminium ingots

However, 2/3 floors have an issue where the 2 back most constructors are backing up because the product is not being taken fast enough

And that shows in the fact that if I empty the actual construcotrs given a couple of minutes it fills up again to a full stack

[merry kettle]

So you have three sinks they're dumping into, and nothing else is merging into those sinks?

[sage scroll]

This DOES NOT happen to the other 1/3 of the "building", it works flawlesly and doesnt back up

[sage scroll]

All 3 of them are connected directly into the sink with no extra splitting/merging etc

[merry kettle]

Did you use a blueprint for all three, or constructed individually?

[sage scroll]

Same blueprint for all 3

I'll try to time how long it takes for one of the problematic constructors to fill up

[merry kettle]

Does the belt going into the sink appear to be full, or does it have gaps?

[sage scroll]

I really cannot tell honestly, at ~1200 items per minute. It looks pretty fully

It takes around 3 minutes for one single constructor to fill up by 50 items, thats roughly 1 item of back up every 3,6 seconds which seems incredibly low considering that this machine is supposed to be pumping 5 items/second

[vapid falcon]

how can i make the fuel powered generators consume the exact amount of rocket fuel i want? it only let me change the target MW or clock speed

[hard ivy]

math

[sage scroll]

You need to calculate how much MW given amount of fuel will produce and then set that MW as target

[vapid falcon]

yeah i did but i want it to consume 3.5 which i achieve it but there are two clock speed that have that amount, how i know there is no more decimals

[pearl walrus]

➕️➖️➗️✖️🟰♥️

[vapid falcon]

it shows only two decimals

[pearl walrus]

Whats yoir math, post it here

[sage scroll]

It does appear to have some small gaps

[leaden ether]

Couple of things to watch out for. 1) If a machine says it's outputting 60 items/m, do not put a 60 item belt on it's output. If there is even the tiniest backup on the belt due to havin multiple machines putting out large bursts onto the beltways, it'll buffer an item and that item will NEVER leave the machine. 2) Simlarly, always make sure your belts have extra capacity down the lint to the final one because of what I said previously. the bursting nature of some machines means the flow rate when combining them actually rises and falls above and below the average.

[sage wind]

Is there an upgrade to the smelter thats not just overclocking?

[vapid falcon]

2250 Rocket Fuel - 62.5 for Packaging = 2187.5 Rocket Fuel ➗️ 3.5 Generator Consumption = 625 Generators

[vapid falcon]

somersloop i guess

[sage wind]

What does that do?

[vapid falcon]

but theres no smelter mk2 if u asking that

[pearl walrus]

Why do you want it to be 3.5 per gen

[vapid falcon]

duplicates the output

[sage wind]

Ohh like productivity

[latent prawn]

you can unlock alternate recipes, most of which are for the foundry or refinery that yield more stuff

[vapid falcon]

the other option is 250 generators with 8.75 consumption but i need like 750 Power Shards

[pearl walrus]

Wouldnt it make the mist sense to overclock to 250% and build like a third of the machine

[pearl walrus]

Oh sorry ye

[stray patio]

yoo

[pearl walrus]

I mean just round it down one generator and youll be fine.

Trust me, once youre at the point of needing the last 250 or less MW, youll wanna go bigger and go nuclear

[vapid falcon]

the thing is, if i do the math should i use the 4.17 (Showed in generator), 4.167 (Generator too) or 4.16667 like the wiki says

[hard ivy]

you should use the burn time to do the math, because it's not rounded

[pearl walrus]

Well ask , yourself the question, which one is mire acczrate?

[vapid falcon]

the 2187.5 rocket fuel gives me above 120k MW

[stone python]

4.16667 is rounded, use 4.166666666666666666666666666666

[pearl walrus]

Yo

[stone python]

use as many decimal places as you can

[pearl walrus]

I did you today

[stray patio]

what.

[vapid falcon]

hoping for the generators not to stop then

[hard ivy]

or use a fraction, which is not rounded

[pearl walrus]

Ye I did my Steel production

[stray patio]

ah nicee

[pearl walrus]

4,1+2/30

[hard ivy]

4+1/6

[pearl walrus]

Thats 4,125 sir

[stone python]

no, it isnt

[pearl walrus]

Nvm🤙🫡

[vapid falcon]

4.1666... = 375/90 okay

[hard ivy]

4+1/6 = 25/6 = 4.1(6)

[stone python]

210MW

[vapid falcon]

well, using cross multiplication its 84%

to consume 3.5 and make 625 generators

[stone python]

this will give you an input of 3.5 rocket fuel per min

[vapid falcon]

how in the damn world im gonna put 625 generators... problem for the future me

[hard ivy]

blueprints

[mortal ginkgo]

why people so obsessed with rocket fuel shenanigans man. just yolo reactor

[vapid falcon]

just because

its my first 1.0 world so im making everything

[limpid lodge]

where can i see whats different from stable to experimental

[sudden pumice]

is there anything I can build to create fuel (i.e wood), or is there an alternative source like solar later ?

[vapid falcon]

coal

[mortal ginkgo]

coal?

[sullen gull]

I say it's much easier to go slug hunting, sloop the constructors, and not have to build 625 of them.

[sudden pumice]

ok thanks

[vapid falcon]

well i can make 210 generators at 210%

210x3 630 slugs

[unkempt blade]

You could be more efficient if you used more factory carts and fewer slugs

[vapid falcon]

carts?

[unkempt blade]

yeah they don't use any power so they're the best behicle and they're also adorable like oompa loompas

just don't read the fine print about needing truck stops to use them for real work

[sullen gull]

Erm, technically, you would only need 63 purple slugs 😏

But, I would assume, that in the hunt for 63 purple ones, you would come across much more of the yellow/blues, and they add up real fast.

[vapid falcon]

i saw the map on the calculator and if i collect all the slugs missing i have 1191 power shards

so, new mission: collect all the slugs

[sullen gull]

That include slooping them?

[vapid falcon]

what do you mean slooping?

[prisma thicket]

If you collect all the slugs in the game and make them into power shards using only a constructor with a Somersloop in it, you can have over 5000 power shards.

[vapid falcon]

what

[sullen gull]

Have you research production amplification in the MAM?

[vapid falcon]

is that from tier 9?

i mean

[sullen gull]

No, it's in the MAM

Reseach Productiion Amplification under the Alien technology tree

[prisma thicket]

No, Alien Technology in the MAM, right hand side is the Somersloop or sloop tech tree.

[vapid falcon]

yeah i have that

but why put a somersloop?

[sullen gull]

Then find 4 sloops, make some constructors to turn slugs into shards

2x the output. so Blue =2, yellow =4, purple =10

[vapid falcon]

holy

WHY I NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT

me and my friend are so dumb

[sullen gull]

Sorry, you were talking about rocket fuel lol, I assumed, my bad

[vapid falcon]

its fine haha

absolute legends, thanks

[sage scroll]

Also dont forget to sloop up DNA proteins and stuff for coupons

[sullen gull]

Fyi, if you were ever to need solid bio again (started a new save or w/e), you can unlock that early on and do the same with grass/wood/mysillia for biomass. Also do the same for animal remains. Sloop the remains and the protein to DNA

[vapid falcon]

never would thought that either

when I tell my friend his head will explode.

[jovial oracle]

Oil is fun, ngl.

@sullen gull Check out #design-and-architecture :D

[sage wind]

If I want to edit a blueprint, do I have to paste it into the blueprint designer and create it again with the same name?

I have to set the icon/folder/colour/name manually?

[sudden pumice]

man I wish I knew what all of that means lol, sounds like great tips 😅

[sage wind]

Oh I see you can load it

[outer sparrow]

the game ends at phase 5 right?

[sage wind]

9

[sullen gull]

You can also edit the description, icon, and color later from the blueprint build screen

[jovial oracle]

Are Cast Screws better than the normal recipe? Need opinions.

[sullen gull]

Yes, Phase 5

[hard ivy]

phase 5, tier 9

[hard ivy]

yes, though it's generaly best to not make screws at all

[sullen gull]

All up to you. Cast screws can be useful to eliminate making rods if you'd rather not

[jovial oracle]

I feel like literally everything requires screws.

So many screws in my factory.

Yet none in my head.

[hard ivy]

nothing requires screws

[sullen gull]

They're there.. just loose 😏

[outer sparrow]

Im so close to finishing the game :D

[leaden turret]

and then 1.1 comes out.

and then 1.2 comes out.

etc.

[leaden turret]

box of screws requires screws

[outer sparrow]

Ill finish them too

how hard can it possibly be?

[sullen gull]

Only as hard as one makes it for them self in the game imo

[reef basin]

no

[pearl walrus]

Yes

[reef basin]

no recipe is straight up "better"

[leaden turret]

human intervention: the cause of and solution to all of life's problems

[reef basin]

many equipments do

[sullen gull]

https://tenor.com/view/definitely-maybe-romance-comedy-ryan-reynolds-yep-gif-5008341450946414225

[sudden pumice]

I researched a chainsaw, how do I actually get it ?

[sullen gull]

Make it in the equipment workbench

[leaden turret]

equipment is made in the equipment workshop

[sudden pumice]

thanks !

[pearl walrus]

Name one metric in which the normal recipie is better than the cast screw

[reef basin]

can make use of rod alts

[leaden turret]

scrambled eggs.

if you putting cast screw in your scrambled eggs, something has gone wrong.

[reef basin]

the most WP-efficient recipe path uses normal screws paired with steel rods

so it's not even an argument for the sake of argument, the normal recipe is useful

[pearl walrus]

Oh ye that one isnt bad

[rotund sentinel]

but... its for flavour

[leaden turret]

now re-read your message with an extra t

[sullen gull]

WP-effeicient?

[pearl walrus]

Hmm, what if I want cast screw in my egg though huh? Have you thiught about that???

[rotund sentinel]

💀

[reef basin]

weighted points, basically a way to value raw materials based on their relative appearance on the map

[leaden turret]

you gonna scratch your pan

[sullen gull]

Ahh, gotcha

[reef basin]

it's a subjective metric indeed, but it's pretty decent at finding resource-efficient recipe paths

[pearl walrus]

I use single use unrecycleable pans anyways

[sullen gull]

I feel like in doing that though, you're basing off the theory of eventually utilizing every resource?

[pearl walrus]

Thats why its niche and subjective🤙

[reef basin]

yeah, that's one of the reasons why it isn't a perfect metric (well, nothing really is). But it generally leads to using smaller amounts of rare resources and tends to use a lot of common resources. It's used in a few planners as well, to optimise your production (e.g. SatisfactoryTools uses a similar metric).

In the end, there's no complete way to compare two recipes/recipe paths anyway 😉 but WP is often referenced as a decent enough starting point (and even if we ignored WP, I know of many people who are using steel rod -> base screw, as it uses less steel than steel screws alt)

[sullen gull]

Yeah/no, not knocking, was just making sure I understood correctly.

[unkempt blade]

you do the "does it spark joy" test and if it doesn't spark joy you throw that recipe away!

nobody has time for all that clutter in their life, just have to let it go

[pearl walrus]

I do, I'm unemployed

[unkempt blade]

But does your unemployment spark joy? If it doesn't then throw it away and get some funemployment!

[pearl walrus]

Thats some capitalistic propaganda right there

[unkempt blade]

the opposite! there's no reason to enrich the oligarchs... except food and housing and medicine and whatever

plenty of time for enriching others while you exploit Mirage building your factory

[ionic cairn]

Bro, looking on the clock and realising, that I Just spend 10 h in satisfactory

[pearl walrus]

I exploit the tax payer by living off of unemployment funds😎

[somber quartz]

does anyone know if 1.1 is coming any time soon, or should i just go play on experimental server?

[pearl walrus]

Not till someone says in announcements

[unkempt blade]

I think technically they tax your employer for that part but I'm no accountant

well... former employer

[pearl walrus]

Im not from the Us

[unkempt blade]

even better! hopefully your system works better than ours does

[pearl walrus]

Yes I'm happy with it

[somber quartz]

wait how do u get access to experimental game? its not in steam libary

[leaden turret]

February 14th, 2025 Video
Accessing the Experimental Branch on Steam
https://youtube.com/embed/Z3UtGdftZbc?autoplay=1&start=182&end=199

[somber quartz]

thank u

[sullen gull]

BACK UP YOUR SAVES!

PSA for the day... sorry

[leaden turret]

#off-topic-media message

[sullen gull]

Lol, nice

I only started round the end of U8

[pearl walrus]

Well nice to have talked to you, even though you have a vomiting emoji pfp, you seem to have a very positive/open minded philosophy. Thats ultra sick😎🤙

[unkempt blade]

I like a little danger so I wrote a powershell script to have a 1/100 change to delete my save folder when I start the game

[sullen gull]

Seems apt 🤷‍♂️

[leaden turret]

I mean you could do the same thing with a schrodinger's battery-backed ram drive.

random chance of power cycling on boot.

[pearl walrus]

Might as well go gambling atp

[unkempt blade]

And use up all my luck at the casino? I need that luck to keep my saves alive!

[pearl walrus]

I dont believe probability works that way, luckily

[gentle stream]

for 10 rotors/m i need 500 screws per min it is a sad day

[leaden ether]

Unles you have the Steel Rotor recipie

[cyan garnet]

Don’t make all the screws in one place. Make them directly in front of the machines that need them

[gentle stream]

that will prob work thank you

jsut got 2 hard drives so gonna see if i can get a copper variant but if that fails ill try that

[hard ivy]

copper still needs screws

steel doesn't

[gentle stream]

that prob what I meant

[hard ivy]

steel requires having steel unlocked, tho

[gentle stream]

I have that and I have coal rlly close to the factroy

[cyan garnet]

Steel rotor pairs nicely w stators for making motors as it has the same input ingredients

[gentle stream]

YOOOOO I GOT STEEL ROTOR FROM THE 1ST ONE LETS GOOO

[hard ivy]

completing phase 3 in my 1.1 world
#screenshots message
half an hour of setup, 1.5-2 hours of waiting and it'll be done

[swift kernel]

Finally have all my inputs into my latest factory.

Truck stops are pouring all my production into my MAM

Now to just actually make the elevator parts.

[sullen gull]

Can you come make mine when you're done? Thaaaanks 😉

[swift kernel]

Pfft, you probably need things I don't have access to

[sullen gull]

Which elevator parts? p3 or 4?

[swift kernel]

P2

I wanted a fully functioning truck stop delivery service damn it

[jovial oracle]

Just unlocked the Rifle

Why is it not a rifle

But rather an assault rifle

I was expecting semi automatic/bolt action dafuq

[severe elm]

this whole time, i thought i was having problems with my pipes, but in reality its just that satisfactory modeler is lying to me

[jovial oracle]

Pipes bad

[severe elm]

true

[jovial oracle]

Circular conveyers good

[cyan garnet]

Math is FUNdamental

[severe elm]

wait its not lying to me

dude idk, ok bye im locking in again

[jovial oracle]

Damn I cant lock in for shiz lul

Best fuel for jetpack?

[hard ivy]

depends

either liq biofuel or ionized

[lime ermine]

Ionized

[jovial oracle]

I currently have packaged fuel but can research packaged turbofuel if I take some time.

[cyan garnet]

liquid biofuel in early-mid game, ionized in late game (phase 4-5)

Chances are you have a bunch of solid biofuel laying around after moving on to coal/fuel power, so it’s trivial to convert it to liquid biofuel and package it

[jovial oracle]

From what I see in the wiki, packaged ionized fuel should be used late game.

Like, really late game.

Cause it requires power shards to make by default.

Unless I have the Dark-Ion recipe though.

Packaged rocket fuel seems like a better alternative to packaged ionized fuel.

[cyan garnet]

You need packaged rocket to make ionized

[jovial oracle]

When y'all said ionized, I thought you make the fuel in the particle accelerator 😂

[cyan garnet]

I wouldn’t worry about it right now in any case, go make some liquid biofuel

[jovial oracle]

Yeah, I'll do that.

[cyan garnet]

You can revisit once you have aluminum production going (phase 4)

[jovial oracle]

Alright.

[zenith pecan]

I'm working on redoing my aluminium, I just hope I kept enough sheets back before I dismantled my alujank setup that got me through a lot of crap.

[jovial oracle]

Bro why does ADA talk so much 😭😭😭😭

[elder apex]

if you are only going to use ionized for the jetpack, then you probably don't even need to automate it, just buy a few units from the awesome shop every now and then. Ionized lasts an amazingly long time in the jetpack so you won't need to restock that often

[jovial oracle]

I'll keep that mind.

[elder apex]

as another option, you can buy 1 stack to try it out and see if you feel it is worth using over whatever you are currently using

[abstract heron]

yay i am only making 471000 MW i think i should be making 576000MW i do have everything at the end backflowing in RF factory for power anything i should be doing differently

[split prairie]

im setting up routes for tractors and after the route is done i leave them parked out of the way with autopilot off but for some reason they keep getting teleported to a "random" (but same) spot after some time

whats happening here?

[peak wasp]

I needed concrete #screenshots message

[vapid falcon]

the blueprints copies the overclock?

[dense violet]

yes

[vapid falcon]

ty

[abstract heron]

what am i doing wrong 😛

[finite latch]

yes, with a caveat
if you do not have enough shards in your inventory, the copy will only do as much as it can

[reef forge]

oil production is certainly something

[peak wasp]

That's what I have to do next

[reef forge]

i finally got the hang of what i needed to do after 2 hours of messing around

[peak wasp]

I just got concrete going at scale

[reef forge]

i need to start producing some basic things again

i dont have basic things like wire, copper sheets, concrete, cables, iron plates, and iron rods automated

[nova skiff]

what is DPF?

[finite latch]

just a guess.. diluted packaged fuel

[true mulch]

!wikisearch acronyms

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=acronyms

[true mulch]

for future reference

hm, we need to add the new 1.0 stuff

[jovial oracle]

How do you guys forward a message in that format?

Yes, I don't know how to use Discord

[sullen gull]

Click the three dots next to the message/picture you want to link, click copy message link

[jovial oracle]

It gives a huge link.

[sullen gull]

Yeah, once you hit enter, it format's it

That link is only good for anyone with discord and who in this server fyi (I think)

[jovial oracle]

I'll try with this one then.

#satisfactory message

OHHHHH NICEEEEE

My God, imagine teaching an adult on how to use Discord 😭

[sullen gull]

Oh, you just linked back to that message. I feel discord-rickrolled somehow ..

[jovial oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/rickroll-roll-rick-never-gonna-give-you-up-never-gonna-gif-22954713

[sullen gull]

With trains and end to end, having a station(s) in the middle of each end, require a station on each end as well yes?

[zenith trellis]

EVERYONE SUNSCRIBE TO 'SEAN FROM WORK' ON YOUTUBE, ONE OF MY FRIENDS. HES LIVE RIGHT NOW. LETS GET HIM 2k SUBS 🤠🤠🤠

[sullen gull]

Like (][][]-------(][][][)----------[][][) ?

[severe elm]

could anyone tell me why one of my traisn freight cars is delaying its unloading by like, a whole minute

or just not unloading at all

[sullen gull]

They do 'stop' while the load/unload animation is going

commonlly reffered to as "lock out:

[severe elm]

no i mean the animation isnt going at all

[hard ivy]

(][][]-------[][][)----------[][][) is good too

[severe elm]

3 out of 4 cars are unloading into the stations, but one just isnt

its not full, its not set to load

it was working and now it isnt

[sullen gull]

But, the 'front' train is always going to be the 'syncing' train right?

[severe elm]

its 1 train

[sullen gull]

Oh, no, sorry, that was supossed to be in reply to the one above.

[severe elm]

oh

[sullen gull]

In your regard, the station isn't filling, it's not loading the car?

[severe elm]

not unloading the car

the car is full of coal, and the station it unloads into isnt full

[sullen gull]

Is the station itself full?

[severe elm]

no

[hard ivy]

Is it set to only depart when empty/full?

[severe elm]

set to depart once a full unload is complete

[sullen gull]

Always forget about that. And setting the load/unload

[severe elm]

it was working and now its not

???? it just came back again and it worked normally this time

[hard ivy]

And the time delay setting?

[sullen gull]

Lol

[severe elm]

nothing

idk, it worked that time just like normal

[jovial oracle]

Probably a glitch lol 💀

[severe elm]

i did it like 5 times

so maybe, idk its really strange either way

[jovial oracle]

5 times? Probably something's up with your station conditions.

[severe elm]

i can pinky promise you its not

[sullen gull]

Were you manally docking and then undocking? or just watched it come by {dock} 5 times?

[jovial oracle]

If you tried 5 times, it shouldn't be a glitch, lol.

[severe elm]

like i said, it was working perfectly fine, then randomly started doing that, and now its not doing it again

[sullen gull]

Kinda hard to diag with out pics/vids/etc. Did you try turning it off and the on again?

[severe elm]

i just cancelled docking and turned driving on and off again, seems to have fixed it, but that was just weird

[jovial oracle]

Bruh, I wonder what were the developers thinking when doing the acronyms.
PTSD (I'll be damned bro) - Pioneering Tiered Schematics Directive
STD (like really?) - Save The Day
POOP (???) - Pioneer Obligatory Onboarding Program

I'll legit laughing my arse off wtf

[sullen gull]

Lol, at least you're finding some of the 'easter eggs' 🙂

Find the serial number on the smelters.

Or, on a few of the machines I think.

[clever pier]

anyone else got to the point of needing to make a spread sheet for their train and stations to keep track of whats loading and unloading where?

especially if you use the feautre of having different cars on different trains ignore some load / unload points

[boreal musk]

just color code them?

and u can name trains

[leaden ether]

Not just trains but fof the game I've got spreadsheets, flowchard diagrams and snapshots of Satisfactory Tools factory trees that I then mark up into building gropups and keep track of progress and locations of each segement in layers in photoshop.

[latent prawn]

I simplify some of the bookkeeping by devoting a single train to an item and splitting a given factory's output equally between 4 cars

[clever pier]

i was doing that at first but theres not enough colors for all items

[clever pier]

then use smart splitters on the output?

[leaden ether]

I've been making somewhat monolithic factories so I don't have a huge amound ot item transport, but this is how I laid it out for sanity...#screenshots message

[clever pier]

I'm using different items in different cars

its not one item per train

[latent prawn]

no need for item filtering if the train contains a single item

[clever pier]

I'd need to build 4 x as many stations if I used one train per item

they take up too much room as it is

[latent prawn]

in some places, i actually have filters on the train schedules set to cherry pick items out of shared stations

on the unloading side, i mostly devote stations to single items

[sullen gull]

There was someone a while back who had a good naming convention.. wasn't it The Law, @swift kernel ? 😏

[latent prawn]

when i'm building a factory, usually the first thing i start with is building the train platforms for the factory. when doing so, i often try to error on the side of building too many platforms for what i'll need. at the end of the day, i'm ok if i have a few unused platforms in a factory. a spare station can be used later for some ore pickup.

[swift kernel]

That's right! Y'all want to know my callsign system?

[sullen gull]

In that, do you find yourself building 'Around" the stations? I did 😒

[zenith pecan]

Due to the stations size, I'd wager building on top of them is likely, as the rail depot can then form the basement.

[swift kernel]

I use call signs to keep track of everything very easily.

[latent prawn]

yeah, well, stations take a lot of space, if you don't start with the stations, often times you never end up with enough space

[swift kernel]

You know what, I can post my system on here jas

[sullen gull]

Tru tru

[zenith pecan]

Though my old save had the station on a facility roof 😄

[sullen gull]

I'm currently playing around with stations in a cave lol #screenshots message

[zenith pecan]

Caves can be a pain, that said I have been accessing cave nodes from below to avoid the irritating passages that aren't well suited to logistics.

[sullen gull]

This one isn't so bad as it's tall

[clever pier]

I often build a train station inside the big east west cave under the western desert to bring SAM ore out to a processing plant

[zenith pecan]

The SAM node in the dunes is one of the more egregious examples, there is room for a conveyor belt OR the pioneer, not so much both, what a bind.

[swift kernel]

Okay, @sullen gull @latent prawn #screenshots message Here we are

[sullen gull]

The one with two pure and one Impure (or normal, would have to look again) quartz node in it?

[clever pier]

yes

its a massive cave, easy big enough for a double line train

[sullen gull]

I love the areas in the desert where you have to slide to get into 😛

[sullen gull]

Yeah, that's the one I am in now

[swift kernel]

That's my callsign system in its entirety. I typically use Factoryname.department.item/function

So it's 2.3.4

[sullen gull]

I'm just doing an end to end though. Bringing it out of the East entrance.

[zenith pecan]

I fixed that tight space by squashing a block house and miner in there, with an access shaft from below, I just can't make belts and power look even remotely good in those sorts of entrances.

[swift kernel]

I find it particularly useful for priority switches and my truck stations

[zenith pecan]

I have in the past, due to some wall chicanery managed to put wall sockets on cave walls, but it is a total pita!

[swift kernel]

I'm sure I'll use it to manage my train stations as well.

[zenith pecan]

Looks ok though.

[swift kernel]

Being able to make your data compact is extremely useful, and that's the power of callsigns.

[clever pier]

nice work

[prisma thicket]

I forgot to thank you for sharing your little video on how to mount wall sockets to the floor, I used it in my steel factory so all my logistics and power are on the lower floor. So thanks for that!

[latent prawn]

my general convention is '<region+factory> <item> <import/export>'

[zenith pecan]

Cool 😄

[sullen gull]

Sorry, was away ~~stealing ~~Borrowing some images to my satisfactory resource folder 😏

[latent prawn]

i.e. 'DDD Steel export' where 'DDD' just is shortening of 'Deep Dune Desert'

[swift kernel]

Wonder what those could be

[sullen gull]

😼

I mean to say, Thank you! 🙂

[swift kernel]

Seriously, I should take a screenshot of my power priority switches to help drive home how helpful I find callsigns. But I'm already getting ready for bed

[swift kernel]

I'm extremely happy someone else might make use of my work

Please use it, remix it, do whatever. It's nice to know that the fruits of my labor are out there

[sullen gull]

Nah, all good. I am only just realizing the 'power' of priority switches lol. This is a great start/primer to develop my own.

[shell sluice]

im confused by ping tool for resources, it seems really inconsistent. sometimes it will see some node 1km+ away, but other times it cant find iron nodes that are ~200m away from me

does it detect only up to a max number of nodes or something, so it just stops after seeing ones right next to me

[abstract heron]

yay i am only making 460,000 at best i should be making more why is that

[frail sleet]

Yeah, it finds at least 1-2 nodes IIRC but will stop if it's already found some.

you have to move and scan again, or use a tool like SCIM's interactive map with your save file

[prisma thicket]

It's supposed to show you the nearest 3 nodes or clusters of nodes

[latent prawn]

past the early game, the ping tool isn't all that useful. radar towers give a much better view of locations once you have them unlocked and a few built

the ping tool does some funny stuff with similar nodes very close together to combine their ping into one item on the compass. it sometimes doesn't quite get that right 😛

[prisma thicket]

Is there anything better to use an hor byproduct on than fuel?

[latent prawn]

ultimately making dilluted fuel is the most valuable use for hor, but coke for aluminum is important and if you opt to use any recipes that use cable, you can make a lot of cable with hor

[clever pier]

rush building radar towers, much better than the ping tool

[frail sleet]

☝🏻

Also keep in mind that diluted fuel converts to plastic and rubber via the recycled recipies, and is the most oil-efficient way to get those.

[prisma thicket]

coated cable sounds like a good fit for what I'm trying to do.

[latent prawn]

the problem is that any recipe that uses cable except base autowire is pretty crappy, lol

[prisma thicket]

That's exactly what I'm using it for lol automating ACUs

And coated cable just massively cut down on my resource costs plus left me with 0 byproduct, so it's a perfect fit.

[shell sluice]

did they change this or something? i havent played in maybe half a year, i kinda rememebr it being able to see more nodes maybe, or im just misremembering

[frail sleet]

Making HOR into diluted fuel into recycled rubber and then using that for insulated cables is more oil efficient than using the HOR to make cables directly, but more complex. Rubber is broadly quite useful though, so it's hard to regret spending the HOR on rubber.

[frail sleet]

Nop, the behavior can just seem weird or inconsistent if you don't understand what it's doing

[latent prawn]

the design has been through a few iterations since it was changed in update 6

[prisma thicket]

It's the clusters that can throw it sometimes. If they are close enough together they pop as 1 ping, but if they are kind of separated they take multiple pings which reduced the number of nodes shown.

[trim vine]

First time using a drone port, and I only have 1 built in the whole world, and I have batteries loading into it, but I cant see them in the drone port, what am I missing?

[unkempt blade]

did you load them into the fuel port or the cargo port?

[trim vine]

to add onto this, they have been going into the port now for a hot minute before typing this, and NOW I see one stack in outgoing

[trim vine]

both, fuel port I saw fill up immediately, but the outgoing section nothing for several minutes despite batteries going into it

[trim vine]

if I see shit in the outgoing section, does that mean the stuff I saw going in was loaded into the drone itself?

And if yes, how might I check that

nvm, went to delete the drone, and boom, 1800 batteries

[static finch]

thats a lot of batteries

[trim vine]

520 a minute

Drone fleet BABY

[static finch]

😂

[cyan garnet]

The drone load and unload is basically instant (after the landing sequence and loading animation). It both loads and unloads simultaneously

[static finch]

How many phases are there to the space elevator?

[prisma thicket]

5

Also, each phase uses project parts from the previous phase to complete, so having extra of the project parts isn't a bad idea

[silent aurora]

And the quantity of previous parts does get ridiculous...

[static finch]

Ahh, good thing i didnt tear down my smart plating factory then 😂.

i think im making 20/min rn

[trim vine]

Thats good info

[prisma thicket]

That's plenty, as long as you have the spare power to keep that going. I made it through phase 1 and 2 with just 2/min lol

[trim vine]

When you look at an item, such as smart plating, when pressing N and typing it in, you will see what its used in, or, "???", meaning its used in SOMETHING but you dont know til you unlock it

[cyan garnet]

Also keep in mind the drone will always unload if it lands at a drone port while carrying something, and will always load a drone if there is anything in the cargo bay

[static finch]

its running on a seperate power grid so ill be fine lol

[trim vine]

Elevator parts have a bad habit of being used as components in other, more advanced, elevator parts

[static finch]

makes sense

[cyan garnet]

Drones can only go back and forth between two ports, you can’t do more complex routing like A->B->C with a single drone

[trim vine]

more good to know:

I plan on having a fleet of drones that only deliver batteries to other drone ports, kinda a closed loop

[prisma thicket]

Hmmmm is 0.625 HMW per minute enough for build gun purposes? xD

[shell sluice]

how can you switch ammo types with the rebar gun

[trim vine]

And that makes sense, since I would only have say a drone bringing super computers elsewhere 😛

[trim vine]

press and hold R

[cyan garnet]

Pro tip: leave the fueling drone ports empty (don’t build a “home” drone on it). At all your remote drone depots, create a port to act as the “fetcher” - build a drone there and set it to fetch from your battery supply port. You can replicate this pattern as many times as your battery supply can handle

[shell sluice]

thanks

[cyan garnet]

You’ll need to do a one time manual fueling of the remote drone to do the first fueling run, will be sustaining after that

So you will be doing a “pull” model rather than a “push” model. Make sense?

[unkempt blade]

less pro tip: deliver all your fuel with factory carts because they're delightful little vehicles and they don't need fuel themselves

[trim vine]

if I read that correctly, I believe thats what I have done

I have a battery factory putting out 520/min

I have built a skyport where I can modularly add in drone ports, and send them to other industrial clusters or standalone ports, with the express purpose of dropping off batteries to supply any other ports in the area, including the one its going there

[cyan garnet]

You can’t do one-to-many outbound, but you can do many-to-one inbound

[trim vine]

I heard that factory carts are better than mk6 conveyors, is that true?

[sullen gull]

And, always recycle canisters if doing any nitro drone ports fyi

[unkempt blade]

It's a scientific fact. My astrologist told me so

[cyan garnet]

The way I’m describing only requires one drone port at your battery factory, regardless of how many remote depots there are

[trim vine]

THAT I dont understand, would I then have to make a cascading line of drones at remote locations to fuel the next "cluster"?

[cyan garnet]

No

[grizzled lotus]

is there a way to know where I put all my somersloops?

[cyan garnet]

Each remote drone port is only responsible for fetching its own fuel

[frail sleet]

One note: it will eventually run out of capacity at that scale

so best use at least 1 port per 200-300 thing

[sullen gull]

You could use SCIM to find them

[grizzled lotus]

scim?

[cyan garnet]

Which is why I caveated “as long as the supply holds” 😊

[sullen gull]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

[grizzled lotus]

I meant where I put my somersloops. in the machines, that is

[cyan garnet]

Upload your save into SCIM and scroll through your buildings to find them

[grizzled lotus]

oooh

[sullen gull]

Again, SCIM, Though you'd have to hover over each building

[grizzled lotus]

that's helpful

[cyan garnet]

Look for the purple multipliers

In the building lists

[sullen gull]

I didn't even realize that one. Thanks.

[trim vine]

dumb question:

I amke a supercomputer factory in the desert, I want to use a drone to bring the super computer elsewhere, I drop 2 drone ports down, one for fuel and one for the computers...

I still need that drone to dock itself at my skytower to fetch the batteries, right?

[cyan garnet]

It’s super handy. Just used it yesterday to figure out how many sloops I could go reclaim in order to do a big BWD build out. (Turns out there were a lot)

[frail sleet]

It's not a supply problem, it's the limit of droneport throughput. If you input 1000 rocket fuel per minute into one port, drones will only be able to take away about 500 of it before there is always a drone doing the landing animation and it cannot leave any faster.

[sullen gull]

The supercomputer factory should have a drone port going to fetch fuel. That's the one you place the drone on have have it set to go to the drone station

[cyan garnet]

Yes, but in practice once you have back pressure on the remote drone ports you won’t actually have that much traffic on the fuel supply port

[frail sleet]

you still need multiple at a large enough scale 👍🏻

[sullen gull]

Your other stations that need supercomputers will have a drone place there going TO the supercomputer factory to pick up supercomputers.

[shell sluice]

ugh can i not rebin the key to switch ammo? i dont have a single key bound to R but seems like this is still the key for switching ammo and no way to rebind?

[cyan garnet]

True. I’ve yet to hit it myself (using rocket ionized or plut rods)

[sullen gull]

That way, you can have multiple drones picking up Scomputers if supply can suffice.

[grizzled lotus]

I'm at the point where there's so much work involved I can only play this game for a little bit before putting it down

[trim vine]

Gotcha, and ok, either way, I plan on having dedicated ports to fetch fuel, and leave it at that 😛

[grizzled lotus]

trying to use trains to move stuff around and build adaptive control units

[trim vine]

Drones are specific to the port, right? thats what you mean earlier?

[sullen gull]

Yes

But, multiple drones can have the same destination.

[cyan garnet]

What tinker said. For every remote group of drone ports you will want to dedicate one to be a fuel fetcher. Build a drone on it, set it to fetch from the battery supply drone port. Route its output to all the fuel inputs of all the other drone ports in that cluster

[trim vine]

Gotcha, I got confused there cause it sounded routing multiple drones to a single port

Either way, I have to drop a new port at the battery factory for that drone to scoop up

[sullen gull]

Cutie apparently, not Tinker 🤣

Not important, something they said earlier lol

[cyan garnet]

You can have multiple remote drones fetch from one local port. You can’t have one port send a drone out to multiple destinations. Make sense?

[sullen gull]

Hey ya'll.. whats the best supercomputer alt? 😏

[trim vine]

ok, so example:

I build 5 remote drone ports, and have 5 fuel fetching ports at each remote location

HOWEVER, back at the battery factory, I have a SINGLE port labled like Battery Supply, and route all the remote drones to that port?

[sullen gull]

Again, if you have enough supply, But yeah, in principle.

[trim vine]

that OC supercomputer looks sexy and I wanna try it

[trim vine]

500 a minute seems reasonable

[sullen gull]

Yeah, doing the same amount with RF.

[rigid glen]

I've been off the server for a while, was the 1.1 list of new stuff well received?

[sullen gull]

Still on-going, but yeah, quite well I'd say.

[trim vine]

Honestly, once 1.1 goes live, it might be the best patch coffee stain has ever put out

[rigid glen]

I love most of what I've seen, some amazing QoL stuff

[sullen gull]

Infinite nudge, Z nudge, dismantle wrecks, elevators, and quite a few other addon's and QOL improvements.

[rigid glen]

priority and verticals splitters with infinite nudge seems like more gamechangers

[sullen gull]

I haven't personally messed with the former yet.

[rigid glen]

I'll do a frech save sometime later. I was too absorbed after 1.0 came out I had to uninstall lol

fresh*

[sullen gull]

Heh, I gotta get off me arse and build a radio control line lol

[sullen gull]

I feel this lol

Shit, and a cooling systems line ... ugh

[trim vine]

Yeah, I literally just got off cause my mind was exploding at what to do, where/how much

Cause we need a ton of heat sinks for both Radio Controls and Cooling Systems, which then need to be enough to feed into Turbo Motors and Super Computers

Luckily, Fused modular frames dont take none of that nonsense, but they DO need a ton of steel components

But then pressure cubes need both FMF and Radios

yeah, gonna go play some auto chess

[sullen gull]

Yeah, I have been all over the place. Got wild hair up there and decided to do an All Baux plant, then I was like I need to do cooling systems, so lets expand the rf plant at the alu facility a bit to do packaged, then forgot I did all that to do what you just finished with fuel dilivery, and then started thinking at how to progress with P4 space elevator parts because I will need mk6 belts at some point.

[trim vine]

I finished my Bauxite plant, so luckily I can just export aluminium wherever its needed

The rest though... good lawd

[sullen gull]

So, techinally. I have 4 plants I am working on simultaneously 🤣

[trim vine]

I will say, the magnetic stuff I was able to automate super quick, cause I had frames and ai limiters, so thats cake at least

[trim vine]

you need your 15 minute FICSIT approved break

[sullen gull]

Btw, not sure if you saw, though you changed design, there is a video with how to do what you wanted for 1.0

[trim vine]

ahhhh, yeah, I think that look will be better with a factory thats not in the clouds

[sullen gull]

Fair enough.

[marble dew]

good evening everyone.

[trim vine]

-waves-

[sullen gull]

Ahhh get out! I like my infrastructure!

I mean, just kidding ... how goes? 😏

[marble dew]

ok am new here

[trim vine]

where's your four leaf clover? 😛

[sullen gull]

Not "THAT" new, no clover 😏

[marble dew]

🙂

[sullen gull]

https://tenor.com/view/sure-if-you-say-so-whatever-sassy-gif-16833750252917735958

[marble dew]

not sure what that is?

[sullen gull]

Me either. So what's up? What ya building today?

[marble dew]

I have started a play yet

not

[trim vine]

well, to quote the great Wayne, pitter patter

[marble dew]

ok.

not suren what am doing tonite..

[sullen gull]

Save the puppies of course!

[trim vine]

*Lizard Doggos

[sullen gull]

But, you're sending parts to the space elevator to save humanity and the EARTH puppies!

😏

[marble dew]

have not started that part of the story yet.

[trim vine]

Have you built any copper rods yet?

[marble dew]

no

copper wire

[fierce crystal]

Any female gamers out there

[trim vine]

lets assume yes, por que?

[fierce crystal]

What's the English version of por que

[trim vine]

why

[fierce crystal]

I speak English only

[trim vine]

Two things:

Google languages you dont know, makes life easy and you learn alil

Two, por que means why

[fierce crystal]

O

[trim vine]

More literally its for what

[dusky relic]

Yes

[fierce crystal]

ok I ask about girl gamers cause I never see or hear any unless like a friend I have on PS4 Fortnite has a daughter I meet through the game

[dusky relic]

I run into women gamers all the time

[fierce crystal]

and she's a teen so no 18+ girl gamers that play ???

[dusky relic]

There are....

My last girl was a big gamer

Played a lot of FF14

[merry kettle]

Generally speaking men and women have different preferences in terms of what games they play; if you're male, on average, you'll meet mostly male players, and if you are female, on average, you'll meet mostly female players.

[dusky relic]

But also; why are we talking about this 😭

[trim vine]

But I would venture a guess that any women in this discord who do play satisfactory wont respond super well to a general inquiry of "Any female gamers"

[merry kettle]

There's rarely a good reason to be talking about it.

[fierce crystal]

I have had a few Phone girl gamers add me but they say they had the wrong person and when I try to get to know them they just talk about the phone games on Blue Stack and phone

just trying to find someone I can get to know as well as play games with

I'm 43 single and looking for miss Right

[trim vine]

Highly recommend a dating site, and not the Satisfactory general chat channel

[dusky relic]

In my experience, it's best to get to know someone well and then have them join you through games (which is what I do and it works 👍), than to find people you play with and try to get to know them

[fierce crystal]

dating site ask for money games don't

[dusky relic]

Love finds itself in mysterious ways 💀

[sullen gull]

Go to disboard and search e-girl smh

[merry kettle]

Or join a local board game group; look for something that doesn't emphasize MTG too heavily. (It tends to be the most profitable part for the business side of nerddom, so it will usually be incorporated at least a little into any long-term nerd group.)

[fierce crystal]

not for me

[dense violet]

there are several server rules I feel are against solicitating dates

[sullen gull]

👆

[fierce crystal]

I just want to see if there are any 18+ adult female gamers

[sullen gull]

(Since I can't react to his stuff lol)

[trim vine]

Most of em dont, really...

Either way, you will have a lot more luck than in here, mostly because its going to be most of us asking you why you're looking here and not talking about SUPER COMPTUERS

[dense violet]

lots I'm sure. but this isn't hte server for it

[trim vine]

Why are you so set on females, just say women

[merry kettle]

I'm highly tempted by the OC supercomputer recipe, because assembler, but RCUs are pretty annoying to make.

[dense violet]

it's somewhat of a trap

[dusky relic]

I also realized I might be playing this game wrong

[trim vine]

please explain

[dusky relic]

When you guys make factories, do you import items from other factories?

I always just make everything from raw materials

[dense violet]

thats an option yes 🙂

[fierce crystal]

I could but how do you find adult women vr the under 18 women

[dense violet]

<@&387163995947270144>

[trim vine]

Please take your quest for love elsewhere

[merry kettle]

I used to, moved to more all-in one, and then ran into the limits of that and now have a "minimize number of inputs" optimization factor. If a part requires two inputs nothing else uses, I make that somewhere else.

[trim vine]

<@&370483737957236737>

[fierce crystal]

k

[dense violet]

the OC computer recipe is extremely more expensive in resource compared to solid state or base

[trim vine]

I thought you might say this

[dense violet]

If you've got those parts lying around not doing anything? yeah sure I suppose. But... oof. Big expense

[trim vine]

ok, HOW much more expensive, talk dirty to me and give me numbers

[fierce crystal]

didn't want to start trouble just thought I could see if there are adult women gamers that play games

[dusky relic]

😭

[trim vine]

Cause I have a TON of rubber laying around, and all the aluminium in the world, and I can make a fair bit of heat sinks, and the rest seem alil easy

[dense violet]

depends which alt recipes you use before hand

but it's a good chunk pricier

[cloud locust]

How do I change locale on the ficsit website

[trim vine]

#ruleofcool then

[dense violet]

sure, but this isn't the way to do it

[fierce crystal]

Is there a way in satisfactory to make a world power grid that can power everything and if so how much power is needed

[dense violet]

this is also fine, I tend to make extremely local factories and the locations are based on nearby nodes

[dusky relic]

I don't really understand your question

[dense violet]

just make a power station that's connected to everything - and as for how much, depends how big a system you make

some people only need 40gw, some need 200gw

[sullen gull]

Depends on personal goals as far as how much is needed. Outside of that, could check what mods are available.

[fierce crystal]

is there a bot to go cut down trees yet so help automate biomass

[dusky relic]

No

[dense violet]

no. biomass is a very temporary power system

[dusky relic]

Biomass is impossible to automate

[latent prawn]

the flip side of that is if you sloop the recipe, it ends up being pretty reasonable

[fierce crystal]

darn biomass is hard to keep if your exploring

[merry kettle]

And if you sloop several steps of the recipe it goes from reasonable to, pretty quickly, never needing to think about it again.

[dense violet]

then you should compare it to the base recipe slooped and you have the same ratio of resources 😛

yeah yeah fewer sloops

[latent prawn]

apples and oranges. 2 sloops vs 4

[dense violet]

but if you're going to use duping mechanics you might as well just use a cheat mod

[dusky relic]

I explore a lot, but I've never had an issue maintaining biomass

Do you have a chainsaw?

[latent prawn]

I'm enjoying the problem of fitting a large build with ficsonium nuclear into the resources provided

after i have that more or less solved, i'll probably gift myself some sloops in scim for doing some fun stuff down the road

i gotta say though, i wish that they provided more sloops

[sullen gull]

I've personally never dabbled with slooping outside of biomass, remains, protein, and slugs.

[merry kettle]

An endgame recipe to make new somersloops would be nice, assuming they don't plan on extending the endgame content in other ways that might break.

[latent prawn]

the numbers between sam, bauxite, uranium and sloops make it so that you kinda need to beancount everything for a large build

[dusky relic]

I do it for project assembly parts

[sullen gull]

Oh, yeah, and a couple of those this save.

[dusky relic]

But that's because it's usually the last thing I do in a phase, so I want to make it happen as fast as poss5

[dusky relic]

Beancount?

[sullen gull]

Be meticulous in your math 😏

[latent prawn]

i mean spend a lot of time in spreadsheets mathing out resource allocation

[merry kettle]

I did finally learn to stop disassembling my project assembly parts and start dumping them into storage instead. It only took a few dozen playthroughs.

[dusky relic]

I usually just work backwards for the items/min

The machine will say it need 8.666 items per minute, so I make that many

[abstract heron]

still working on flow rate for my RF stuff yay

[sullen gull]

Ok, sadly long weekend is over for me and I need to sleep. Night all.

[potent berry]

@untold jackal instead of you keep posting mobile taken screenshots and we use the same emote every time to tell you not to post mobile screenshots, let me suggest downloading a program called "sharex" i personally use that for my screenshot needs

[latent prawn]

yeah, the thing is if you have lofty goals (i.e. max nuclear with reasonable phase 5 production rates), you have to spend a lot of time making sure you have enough of everything to satisfy your needs.

[dusky relic]

Fairwell

[abstract heron]

byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[dusky relic]

I just use prntscrn 💀

[merry kettle]

I found the math gets a lot easier if you work in units of 30. But I also do it all by hand using the in-game calculator and notes.

[trim vine]

whats wrong with CRTL ALT Print Screen?

[dusky relic]

@potent berry that bridge looks fucking sick 🔥

[latent prawn]

most of my factory planning is done in the sp.runesun.com tool with some help from greeny's sftools

[potent berry]

Windows screenshots use to much ram power or something.

[dusky relic]

I've never had an issue

[trim vine]

thats wild, snippet then

[potent berry]

When in Super Ultra Wide 4k

files gets to big

[dusky relic]

Ahh that might be a reason

Suffering from success

[reef basin]

That would mean infinite free power

[potent berry]

xD

[latent prawn]

most screenshots i post, i just alt-tab to an open copy of the windows clipping tool rather than posting a full screensht

[static finch]

ctrl+shift+s enters the chat

[potent berry]

When i take a screenshot and just paste it to discord, discord stops me due to file to big 🤣

[merry kettle]

Sure, hence the caveats.

[sullen gull]

Win+shift+s 😏

[static finch]

yk what i meant

[latent prawn]

perhaps something like a recipe for making synthetic sloops that took like 10k ficsonium rods to make, lol

[dusky relic]

Are you sure?

[static finch]

yes..

[trim vine]

ez fix is a built in limiter on the number of them boosters you can build

[potent berry]

But i am off chat again, just wanted to help a fellow Pioneer not to use a mobile 🤭 ❤️ Take care

[reef basin]

Doesn't sound nice from game design perspectisve

[static finch]

the invincible referances have made it into satisfactory

[latent prawn]

yeah, the APA kinda makes the game less interesting

[static finch]

its now canon

[dusky relic]

I had to

[merry kettle]

If you did add such a recipe, it's something you'd have after everything else is already done. Ideally slow and expensive.

[trim vine]

Well, there are 106 sloops in the game, like a 100 after MAM, so limiting the boosters to 10 makes sense, and is a massive power spike, and then allows for some crazy builds

[static finch]

i know at least 3 coffee stainers are into invincible

[latent prawn]

only one gets used for mam research for the object scanner

[merry kettle]

Three get used in MAM, IIRC

[trim vine]

either way, 10 is the max you can make, booster wise

[latent prawn]

yeah, your right

106-3

[dusky relic]

103

[static finch]

102

[trim vine]

101

[latent prawn]

what's annoying is that ficsonium nuclear takes so many

[fierce crystal]

someone out there to play with

[trim vine]

#1201555265942724758

[fierce crystal]

not sure how to use

[static finch]

Fun fact of the day: Water can exist in all three states of matter simultaneously, known as the "triple point," where it can boil and freeze at the same time. This occurs at a temperature of 0.01°C.

[dusky relic]

It also needs to be the correct pressure

[trim vine]

click it, make a new post, and type in what you're looking for in a group

[reef basin]

my point is that it just feels weird to put an artificial limit on it that way

[static finch]

i know but shhhhh

[dusky relic]

Maybe say it's a biproduct of it

[trim vine]

I got you, just, there is already a limit based on the number available in the game

And we would like to see more in the game 😛

[static finch]

another fun fact: Cows have accents depending on where they’re born and they also have best friends and get depressed when separated.

[reef basin]

which isn't as much artificial, it's just limitation based on availability, which is nicer than a fixed number

[dusky relic]

You know how it says you can't feed itself into other somersloops or else matter will stop existing or whatever it says... It could be that same idea

[reef basin]

#off-topic-general

[static finch]

sorry

[dusky relic]

Cows also cannot go down stairs... So if they go up some stairs they weren't supposed to, it's a PITA to get them back down

[trim vine]

that requires water to be in a vacuum, or maybe very high pressure...

[jovial oracle]

Y'all ever wondered what the name FICSIT stands for?

I know some of you are gonna say Fix It -.-

[dusky relic]

Fix it 🔥

[jovial oracle]

Future-oriented Infrastructure Construction Simulation and Implementation Tool

😃😃😃

[dusky relic]

No I think it's just fix it

[static finch]

there is no meaning. but for a.w.e.s.o.m.e. it means : Anti Waste Effort for Stress Testing of Materials on Exoplanets

[jovial oracle]

Yeah I know it's just Fix it. AI told me it's that long name 💀

[dusky relic]

It needs to be .6% of the atmosphere, and it also needs to be 0.01⁰C

[jovial oracle]

That I know.

[steady cedar]

It does feel it it would just be fix it but it doesn't make that much sense

Since we aren't really fixing anything but building everything new

[dusky relic]

Guys, it's a company name

[trim vine]

How does this knowledge help me build SUPERCOMPUTERS?!?!

[steady cedar]

Unless its something like fix the planet

[dusky relic]

It doesn't need any meaning 😭

[static finch]

are you sure?

[jovial oracle]

Er... you don't put water in supercomputers?

[dusky relic]

Understanding the physical limitations of matter is essential in sub-atomic computing

[steady cedar]

You can't name stuff something mew without a meaning behind it

[jovial oracle]

Unless you're putting deionized water in it? I guess? I forgot if deionized water conducts electricty or screws up circuits.

[trim vine]

thats not true

[dusky relic]

Watch me.

[static finch]

me, for example 😂

[jovial oracle]

Time to make another factory 🛠

[dusky relic]

What is it gonna make

[steady cedar]

I mean usually there is some thought behind it and there likely is in this case

[jovial oracle]

ROTORS

STATORS

MOTORS

THE 3 TORS

[dusky relic]

Don't bother making stators

[abstract heron]

i am not getting flow rates for gases mine for power 960 fuel gens are notworking as best i am only getting 434,000 i should be getting 576,000 i think

[jovial oracle]

Ey man, lemme be.

I hate going to the crafting bench.

[dusky relic]

They're not used in any recipes except MAM and launching

[dusky relic]

I just throw them into an assembler for the amount I need and then never touch them again

[steady cedar]

Electromagnetic fuel rods?

[static finch]

so dont bother automating them?

[dusky relic]

I mean like building

[jovial oracle]

Automate is the probably the word he was looking for, lol.

[dusky relic]

Not really worth it imo

[steady cedar]

Its not only about building

[dusky relic]

If you're planning on importing them into other factories then it's worth it

[static finch]

ill keep that in mind but my end goal for this game is to automate every possible item at 100% efficiency

[dusky relic]

I don't even bother automating project assembly parts

Just storage contains and assemblers/manufacturers

[jovial oracle]

I should build another oil refinery solely for fuel.

And a weapons factory.

Definitely a weapons factory.

[static finch]

i wont start my end goal until i finish the story: whatever that means

[jovial oracle]

NEED TO ASSERT DOMINANCE

[dusky relic]

I love my explosive rebar factory

You can never have enough explosives ❤️

[jovial oracle]

I already got the rifle and I'm loving it so far. Guess I'll stick with that.

[pearl walrus]

Did the guy just say dont automate stators, and then say he produces explosive rebars?😂

[dusky relic]

Yes

[static finch]

that goes for real life too! i have over 100 lbs of tannerite in my garage

[dusky relic]

I am not saying don't automate stators, I'm saying don't automate them for storage

If you're using them for other parts, obviously do it

[pearl walrus]

Ohhh sorry didnt see ye that makes sense🤙

[jovial oracle]

....wait, what did you think I was going to use them for?

[reef basin]

usually "I'm automating X" means "I'm making X as a final product"

[leaden ether]

Heh yeah that makes more sense 😄

[dusky relic]

No worries

[fierce crystal]

is there a room to make requests for something like a garden to help automate biomass

[leaden ether]

Yeah stators are not on the store and DD list.

[dusky relic]

When you say your factory produces stators, that means it's making more than it's using 😭😭

I'm saying there's no point in doing that

[jovial oracle]

I meant I am making a factory that makes both stators and rotors so that the same factory can make motors.

All 3 in the same place.

[fierce crystal]

?

[static finch]

theres always a point

[reef basin]

biomass is intentionally not able to be automated, but there's QA site if you really want

[fierce crystal]

how do I find it

[fossil ice]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @reef basin

[fierce crystal]

thanks

[dusky relic]

Also, the game tells you they will never make grow beds (you get the voice line after researching sulphur)

[static finch]

"the game" is named ADA 😂

[dusky relic]

😡

[static finch]

i appreciate ada tbh

very useful info

[dusky relic]

I do like her

And how she flirts with the alien thing

Do we have a name for it?

[static finch]

fred

[jovial oracle]

I got a few questions before I actually start automating armaments.
What are the types of rifle ammo?
What's the best rebar ammo?
What's the best nobelisk? (Nuclear Nobelisk excluded).

[dusky relic]

I have a feeling that's not right

[dusky relic]

Best rebar ammo is gonna be stun or explosive

[static finch]

idk what the name is (if there is one)

[dusky relic]

Probably stun unfortunately

[jovial oracle]

I like boom boom so I'll go with explosive rebar.

[dusky relic]

Me too

[jovial oracle]

Don't need stuns if you got enough explosives.

[dusky relic]

I like how fast I can destroy rocks and toxic spires with it

[static finch]

wait...... you can make the gas stop?

theres a yellow slug i cant get to and it makes me mad

[dusky relic]

Yes!

[pearl walrus]

Took me 400 hours till i saw someone randomly do it in a video😂

[dusky relic]

Throw an explosive at it and watch with a smile

[static finch]

ooo

[dusky relic]

I never bother making the gas mask until uranium for that exact reason

[jovial oracle]

So I'll start automating basic rifle ammo, explosive rebars and cluster nobelisks, yeah?

[dusky relic]

Honestly, if your making explosive rebar, don't bother with the nobelisks

[static finch]

thats why i stay away from vids of the game, i wanna figure it out by myself (for the most part)

[fierce crystal]

is there a way to create account for the QA page

[merry kettle]

Cluster nobelisks are useful for mass clearing

[static finch]

i dont mind the occasional assistance

[pearl walrus]

i just tend to watch designs and architechture

[dusky relic]

True, I try to preserve the nature of the planet so I didn't even think of that 💀

[pearl walrus]

And then not use it and spam blueprints anyways

[pearl walrus]

How do you build in the red forest good sir🤕🤕😵‍💫😵‍💫

[static finch]

i would do the same, but honestly, id rather design my own builds to share, but to each their own!

[dusky relic]

I don't ❤️

[pearl walrus]

Smart

[jovial oracle]

Nature had it's chance

[dusky relic]

I just think it's pretty

[pearl walrus]

Im at a point where i have to run my game on low graphics so I stopped caring about making things look nice since they never would🤕

[latent prawn]

I use a combo of ex-rebar for killing most things, regular nobelisks are good for demolition. gas nobelisks are good for crowd-controlling the big hogs and sometimes dealing with spitters. normal rifle ammo is good for sniping the hatchers. I find shatter & stun rebar pretty ineffectual. Homing rifle ammo is really too pricey for what it is, and turbo rifle ammo misses more than it hits

[merry kettle]

Do you run the game on an SSD?

[latent prawn]

in the early going, the damage done by regular rebar is pretty good

[static finch]

it amazes me how much creativity the game offers, everyone has their own way of making their factories, no matter how much help they get from others.

[pearl walrus]

Ye im pretty sure

[jovial oracle]

The satisfaction is insatiable

[jovial oracle]

Aright, got it.

[merry kettle]

Ah, alright. That was the biggest single performance increase I got, switching to my SSD for the game.

[static finch]

whats ur pc's specs?

[pearl walrus]

4060ti and a ryzen 5 5600x.

[dusky relic]

How do you need to run it on low 😭😭😭😭😭

[pearl walrus]

I built some stuff

[dusky relic]

I have a 3060 and 5700 and run everything on high (I'm pretty sure Max but not 100% sure)

[static finch]

you should be able to run the game at at least high settings. Are your drivers updated?

[pearl walrus]

I can easily run it on ultra when I dont have much placed. But now I would be facing 30 frames if I did that

[pearl walrus]

They might not be but I havent had my pc connected to the internet for 2 months now. 3 more to go🤙🤕

[static finch]

i have a 4070ti super and a intel i7 14700k and run at ultra (i went into a creative save and went a little overboard)

[static finch]

check on that, you might be held back.

[pearl walrus]

Ye ill let you know in 90 days😎 thanls for pointing it out🫡

[dusky relic]

Is there a reason your PC isn't connect to the Internet?

[static finch]

honestly nobody should be playing any game at >60fps at high settings in 2025

[pearl walrus]

Yes, I dpnt have an Internet connection where I live. Im textig via phone connection rn. Which barely gives me 100kb/s

[static finch]

if so, your pc is in despreate need of an upgrade

[dusky relic]

I do in CP2077 when I use raytracing

[dusky relic]

Is there a library near you?

[pearl walrus]

No

[sterile blade]

If you're looking for inspiration in that regard, you can search for "Single Input Sushi"
Eg: https://youtu.be/aJiy-pOX7Os?si=gh0pwz01W_UHAw3A

Programmable splitters help a lot with that~

[static finch]

if you dont mind me asking, do you own your house or do you live with someone (roomates or parents)

[pearl walrus]

Idek if drivers would make the gane crazy fancy again, i really feel its just do to the ammount of things ive placed this far

Apartment building witg parents😵‍💫

[sterile blade]

I don't quite understand the reaction you added @dusky relic

[dusky relic]

I'm suprised someone did it

[static finch]

ahh ok, in your situation, i would invest in an unlimited hotspot in your data plan or switch to a different internet plan/provider. that should make your wifi connection/speeds better

[dusky relic]

Do you go to school, (and if so does that school have computers and an Internet connection)

[sterile blade]

When you have millions of players, it's hard to find something that hasn't been done/attempted or at least thought of before 😅

[dusky relic]

Apparently so

[sterile blade]

Tbf, as far as I know, I'm the only one who finished the game (once) like that... So, spot #2 and #3 are still free
And given the crappy level of my video-masking, there's plenty of room to do better~

[static finch]

@pearl walrus if you need more advice, my dms are open. i used to get 70kbps on average. i can point you into a good direction. (i install internet for big corperate companies in Minneapolis MN if that gives any credit)

[dusky relic]

That was you!!?

[sterile blade]

Username should check out ^^

[pearl walrus]

I have one, (unlimited mibile plan)good sir, the problem problem is that I live in germany and that sadly means that no ammount of problem solving would fix the corruption that have held back infrastructure investments! I live in a very small village (im not gonna say a numver but when you think of a very small number for village inhabitants, think smaller) so the mobile data and cable connection coverage is terrible. We moved, and in our old place we didnt have glass fibre connection till 7 months ago! Now we have to wait 3 more to get that here. Mobile coverage is terribble as well, i get to have 5G, but even with that ut only loads 100kb/s

[dusky relic]

Yes it does!

[dusky relic]

May I ask how you know that you'll have internet in 3 months?

[pearl walrus]

The provider made a pinky promise🥺

[sterile blade]

What sort of low-level antenna gives 100 kbps of mobile data?! O.o
Are you just very far from it?

[static finch]

I understand now. your best bet is to take your pc to a hotel parking lot or anywhere with free internet connection and install necessary updates/software there. hopefullly that will make yore game experience better!

[dusky relic]

Well, I'm sorry to hear that we won't be able to help fix the issue

[dusky relic]

I would say just get a usb stick and install it at a school computer, but by the sound of it he doesn't even have that option

[pearl walrus]

Ye it's all good no big issue. I dont bother playing the game on low for a while😎. I mainly like seeing biiiig numba🦧

[pearl walrus]

Unemployed graduate😎

[static finch]

as long as you are able to enjoy the game, youre winning in my book! hopefully your situation will improve sooner rather than later!

[pearl walrus]

Yes sir🤙. Best part is that shortly after we get to enjoy 60mb/s again, ill move out and probably have no coverage again😂😂😂

[dusky relic]

Best of luck man 🤞

[pearl walrus]

🫶🫶

[jovial oracle]

A truck station elevated 4 meters up (on a 4 meter foundation) will still load/unload/refuel trucks, right?

[static finch]

well, make the best of what you have in the moment!

[static finch]

as long as the truck can make it to the station (build ramps)

[jovial oracle]

I'll send a picture, wait.

[static finch]

#screenshots ill be waiting 😄

[jovial oracle]

#screenshots message

[static finch]

you should be able to build ramps so the trucks can make it there with ease

[sterile blade]

@dusky relic Sorry, I just noticed your comment and answered with a joke...
Was the question actually serious? 😅

[jovial oracle]

But still, without ramps, is it possible?

[dusky relic]

No it wasn't :)

Don't worry

[dusky relic]

Try it and see