satisfactory

[mortal ginkgo]

I say this with no ill intend: Your shoulders might really need a check.

Holding a button should not cause shoulder issues.

[keen crag]

right. i give up. have a good day....:'(

[atomic notch]

🦐

[mortal ginkgo]

🍤

[atomic notch]

Can confirm i sat like a shrimp for like 12 hours playin yesterday now my shoulders hirt

[mortal ginkgo]

Now you should change your name to crusadershrimp

[hoary ibex]

I think you can get keyboards with good macro type software for accesibility

Like if you need it to hold the button for you, this is a normal thing lots of people have different needs

[elder apex]

or just use autohotkey and roll your own keybinds/macros

[mortal ginkgo]

He doesnt need macros, he just need to zipline a lot around and use Power Towers

[elder apex]

zipline doesn't really help you when you are exploring new areas

[atomic notch]

Done

[mortal ginkgo]

you aren't constantly running then

[elder apex]

tell that to the rather large spider chasing me

[atomic notch]

Explosive rebar is what i tell it

[mortal ginkgo]

bonk that spidy boi

[atomic notch]

I have had a spider stalk me before that shits scary

Saw it jump from a cliff and i was like nope

[jaunty jewel]

how does it prevent shoulder issues?

if your shoulder hurts from pressing w, jump and shift then thats a you problem lmao

[mortal ginkgo]

I would say its a severe nerve issue

[jaunty jewel]

ive beaten it twice 🤷

[atomic notch]

Some people really struggle with this game ig

[jaunty jewel]

i remember when i had to fight like 8 alpha stingers and 3 elite stingers at the same time in the swamp

that was fun

[atomic notch]

The swamp at night is fun

[jaunty jewel]

it was legitimitely fun

i didnt have the rifle at that point either btw

[atomic notch]

I like turning them on passive and watching the spiders fight the hogs

Seein them throw rocks at flying spiders

[hoary ibex]

I just smack them

[jaunty jewel]

my first experience with an alpha stinger was enough to make me turn arachnophobia mode on for 400+ hours of gameplay

only recently turned it off

[rancid turret]

same

[jaunty jewel]

i wouldve if there wasnt like 10 in total

[rancid turret]

gave me a panic attack

[hoary ibex]

Oh yea thats scuffed

When theres more than 1 I run

[jaunty jewel]

i did however have the jetpack

[hoary ibex]

lol they will jump up there

[jaunty jewel]

it was some of the most fun i had in this game im ngl

[hoary ibex]

spider missiles

[jaunty jewel]

not if i move out of the way

[mortal ginkgo]

I heard it is peaceful, and its residents are kind.

[atomic notch]

There will be a reckoning when i unlock rifles and explosive rebar

[jaunty jewel]

i think i had explosive rebar but not much

i wasted it all blowing up fart rocks and fart flowers

[atomic notch]

Fill ur hotbar with rifles and rebar guns then just hot swap

[jaunty jewel]

was worth, got like 20+ hard drives and spheres from exploring that time

[hoary ibex]

you can try and run them over with the truck but it's scary lmao

[jaunty jewel]

nah thats boring, timing rebar right as they jump at you is more fun

[indigo osprey]

are mk2 pipes worth it?

[jaunty jewel]

you shouldnt fill them but i would argue having more is definitely worth (plus it may be needed for some things)

[hoary ibex]

they will shred your truck lol

[indigo osprey]

i was just thinking of using a pure node and producing 600p/m which a mk1 wont carry will it?

[jaunty jewel]

to tap pure crude yeah you need mk2 but its heavily advised against using full (600pm) pipes

[indigo osprey]

why?

[jaunty jewel]

someone with more knowledge better explain it

[tall lantern]

rather, it's a pain to get them to work at the full flow rate

piping needs to be built in a specific way to work at max rates

[indigo osprey]

so am i bettter using a mk2 into a junction then splitting it into 2 mk1?

[mortal ginkgo]

things just doesn't seem to work if you want to fully use 600pm, like the last building or two that needs it just cant take it

[jaunty jewel]

no idea how well this works tbh

[mortal ginkgo]

I think pretending that you got 550pm pipe and make setups for it is better? Someone can correct me on that

[indigo osprey]

oh ok

[tall lantern]

fill the pipes, loop the pipes, let gravity help

you can probably search the server for plenty of advice

all else fails, build it then #1038092680493801533 if it doesn't work. 600/min can totally be done

[latent prawn]

what happens any time you run a pipe or a belt at capacity, is a hiccup can never be caught up from. the same issues actually exist with belts, but aren't as pronounced. Why for pipes it is more pronounced is that liquids flow in both directions in a pipe. if fluid ever back-flows, some of the 600m3/s forward moving capacity is taken away

this is also why filling pipes to their capacity before turning on machines tends to help; you are removing the choices of where liquid can flow in a pipe network

[atomic notch]

Im convinced all looping does is add a buffer

[latent prawn]

all that being said, some pipe networks at 600m3/s are just pathologically badly behaved. use mk2 pipes from an oil extractor or water extractors for nuclear, and use mk1's for everything else

what i don't have a great answer for at this time is why mk1 pipes don't seem to suffer the same issues

[reef basin]

mk2 pipes are fine

pipe manifolds is what needs special care

[latent prawn]

i think it may also change the flow priority b/c of the elevation of the loop

[reef basin]

looping makes it so that flow in opposite direction doesn't intervene with needed capacity

[latent prawn]

*interfere

[atomic notch]

Its crazy to me sometimes bc i have no problem with 600 pipes

[white dawn]

You can get the same issues on mk1 pipes running at 300/min; it's just less common

[latent prawn]

i've not observed it with mk1's perhaps it exists, but i'll only speak to what i've seen

[white dawn]

A lot has to do with subtleties of how exactly you build. We've got a standard block of advice which tends to lead to "the pipes just work" but you can definitely have working 600/min systems while ignoring large chunks of it. (And some folks building entirely to that spec can still run into issues)

[latent prawn]

yeah, i mean, i've pushed 600/min through a pipe and it has worked fine, and i've had it cause problems. most recently, i couldn't get a good flow off of a small pure iron build

[green fiber]

Yes. This is safer

[latent prawn]

that one sort of surprised me, being honest

[green fiber]

Mk 2 pipes prefer it when you do "even splits" at high flow rates

Even splits is anything where all outputs out of the junction have the same flow rate

That naturally limits it to 1 to 2 or 1 to 3

Once you are down from high flow rates, uneven splits become safer to do.

[indigo osprey]

so a mk2 strait into a train station is fine?

[green fiber]

Yes

[latent prawn]

that should be fine, but as always, test & verify

[tall lantern]

though going into a train is gonna need a buffer of some sort

[green fiber]

Anything that is 1:1 is usually fine

But the problem there usually is getting the water into the mk 2

Not only do pipes prefer even splits, but also even merges

If you merge into a mk 2 or split from a mk 2, use mk 1 pipes

If you can at least

[indigo osprey]

they really need to simplify fluids XD

[steady dome]

They really don't

[green fiber]

They need to hand out more info

[latent prawn]

no, they just need to publish the internals of the implementation so that people understand why they do what they do

[green fiber]

Most of this is simply too time consuming to find out on your own

[indigo osprey]

but even half the devs dont understand it XD

[green fiber]

Because they dont work on it

[reef basin]

because half of the devs didn't deal with it

[latent prawn]

i think that's the problem 😄

[white dawn]

Keep in mind that for train stations you'd want a buffering setup to deal with the period of time where the station doesn't take in / get rid of material. #design-and-architecture message or #design-and-architecture message should be good

[reef basin]

obviously you don't understand systems that you haven't touched

[green fiber]

Dont ask devs about stuff they dont work on

Only like 2 people work on pipes

[indigo osprey]

ok thankyou

[white dawn]

(for solids it's easier -- just slap an ISC on 'em w/ both belts connected)

[empty spoke]

anything relevant in the sam tree MAM that is worth it to pull a sam node for?

[tall lantern]

yeah, most of the tree lol

[marble tinsel]

that moment when you hook up four miners into one smelter and realize you did a big no no 🤦

[tall lantern]

one half of the tree is very useful for the rest of the game

the other is more situational/limited but very strong where used

[twilit remnant]

is there someone can help me with a basic pipeline problem?

i need to send screen to explain easilky

[reef basin]

#1038092680493801533

[tall lantern]

#1038092680493801533 if you need images

[toxic zenith]

I don't know what the potential usefulness for it is, but today I learned that pillars being zooped horizontally can escape the confines of the blueprint designer (and will be considered part of the resulting blueprint)

[zenith pecan]

I had power stores escape the blueprint designer, one print can do 81 stores: #satisfactory-experimental message : no idea how, I was drunk at the time.

[stuck swan]

hello

[zenith pecan]

hello

[silent linden]

I think they removed the feature to talk to ADA in game-chat in experimental

[left totem]

possibly smart splitters, long range poles, dimensional stuff and just quartz stuff you NEED to finish the game

I just changed my pfp, I was genuinely reading what I sent like another person sent it xD

[reef basin]

afaik most of the things you "need" to finish the game are also unlocked in tech tree

[left totem]

I'm so used to seeing red on the left when I talk

[reef basin]

one of the reasons that I use compact mode

[left totem]

Try finishing the game without crystal oscillators, quickwire and that's mostly it ?

[left totem]

we are not in 2003

[reef basin]

compact mode is so good tho

I can read more than three messages at the same time

[left totem]

it doesn't exist on mobile anw

[reef basin]

I don't really use phone much tbh

[left totem]

#screenshots message

it's not really that cramped up most of the time

[reef basin]

oscillators and quickwire are unlocked by bauxite refinment afaik

[tall lantern]

seeing as they were specifically asking about the SAM tree, I stand by my answer 😛

[left totem]

it would be funny if oil stuff were in the MAM

as far as I recall there's sulfur, quartz, SAM, caterium, animals, edible food, shards and I think that's all ?

SAM you need it but is unlocked at T9 iirc

sulfur is like the most pointless, it's mainly explosives, fuel and uranium

quartz has quartz crystal, silica, and oscillator

and caterium has the obvious quickwire used everywhere at like low-mid recipes

[rich ivy]

i love the quantum encoder's design but i also hate how weirdly shaped it is

[left totem]

wait is there a classification on an item having a tier associated to it based on its step on the production line

for example

iron ore : T0
iron ingot T1
iron plate T2

and like if you have an item Tier x+1, with the previous highest item being x

But for stuff like screws, since the alt removes a step, how to think about it ?

should it be a T2 or a T3 ?

[pearl geyser]

r they planning to add controller suupport?

[rich ivy]

i made these little "pod" things for my converters, where the bottom bit with all the inputs is sunk into the concrete, and the big orb up top is sticking out right

i tried to do the same for the converter with a big circular hole for the middle bit, and it was a nightmare to get it to look right

[reef basin]

no, there's not

[left totem]

there could be ?

what for ? idk, but it could be interesting

[reef basin]

"there could be"

for sure, you can make up any classification you want 🙂

but your question was about whether there is (which I assumed was a question about official classification)

[left totem]

time to do it ig

[hollow vector]

real

[reef basin]

I don't really see how would it be useful in any way, but you do you 🤷

[left totem]

maybe classify how "based on default recipes" "hard" items could be

[reef basin]

insert classic "there's no such thing as a default recipe"

[left totem]

even though it doesn't reflect, if there are many different base ressources needed, if logistics need to be complicated

[left totem]

there are alts, but you can not get them, by default there are default recipes ?

[reef basin]

some items don't have non-alt recipe
some items have multiple non-alt recipes
🤷

(not to mention that there's no official definition of "alt recipe")

[left totem]

hmm fair

[leaden ether]

There are some mods than seriously up the game WRT recipes and steps to refine ores and such. I.e. make it more in depth and challenging.

[left totem]

what valorant taught me is that, sometimes, you can just end an argument by agreeing with the other party and everyone ends up happy

[reef basin]

I'm not disagreeing or anything, I'm just saying that there are many places where it's not clear how to define things

[left totem]

and with this I agree 🙂

[reef basin]

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[north cloud]

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[fossil ice]

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[distant badge]

Is there anywhere else screenshots are stored that isn't in This PC/Documents/My Games/FactoryGame/Screenshots? I took a couple photos in photomode, saved, closed the game to desktop, rebooted my PC, and they're still not showing up there.

[leaden ether]

That's the only spot I know of, unless somehow you took a Steam screenshot instead. Never had one not show up so far...

[left totem]

BWP is Tier 10, I haven't done uranium so I'll see which one is higher

also it's a bit exponential, like most of the time, T5 things require T4 things etc...

and sometimes no

[distant badge]

I already checked my Steam screenshots too, but thanks for looking.

[leaden ether]

I have a q... Once you've bought everything except the trophies/statues in the awesome shop. Do you then buy them in order? Or just go for the Golden Nut straight off? 🙂

[distant badge]

I never got around to building a spot for them in my Pre-1.0 save, but I was saving tickets to buy them all at once.
I still haven't bought out the Awesome Shop yet in 1.0/1.1.

[leaden ether]

Ah an unimagined third option. Well now I'm even more stymied by indescision than before 🙂

[distant badge]

FOUND IT
Re-opened the game, went into photomode, and clicked 'open screenshot folder'
It's in...
This PC/AppData/Local/FactoryGame/Saved/Screenshots/Windows.

All my 1.0/1.1 screenshots are here

[leaden ether]

I don't even have that folder O.O

[atomic notch]

Ima be honest i dont use the in game photos ill just get it set up then ss

[left totem]

yeah so technically fisconium fuel rod is T11 EVEN by not counting the waste as a new tier by themselves

it's just a really long chain of stuff

Uranium + Sulfuric Acid ->
Encased Uranium Cell ->
Uranium Fuel Rod ->
Uranium Waste ->
Non-Fissile Uranium ->
Plutonium Pellet ->
Encased Plutonium Cell ->
Plutonium Fuel Rod ->
Plutoniun Waste ->
Fisconium ->
Fisconium Fuel Rod

[atomic notch]

Yeah its a lot

[left totem]

highest priority chain on BWP goes like that

BWP <-
Singularity Cell <-
Nuclear Pasta <-
Pressure Conversion Cube <-
FMF <- HMF <- Modular Frame <- RIP <-...

[left totem]

it's also why nuclear looks so scary

[jaunty jewel]

idk ficsonium seems kinda pointless to me

you get so little waste from plutonium, wouldnt really hurt to just send it away to some corner and store it

i get why people do it but i personally dont see the point

[left totem]

I mean, IMO, rocket fuel exists so...

[atomic notch]

I never done a nuclear plant so i hope its not as easy as everything else

Still got a bunch of work to do before i get there

[severe stream]

Does anyone else name the beans that roam their factories? I named mine frank and chris

[wanton stag]

im trying to load coal into a tractor from a truck station but after pressing f (it prompted me to press f to load) it does nothing, this tractor is empty, help?

[lime ermine]

Are you making a path for the tractor?

[wanton stag]

no im just moving things in

[lime ermine]

Should work, is the station powered?

[wanton stag]

yes

its powered, it will fuel the tractor

but it wont load

[lime ermine]

And you're not making a path for autopilot

[wanton stag]

nope!

[lime ermine]

Huh

[wanton stag]

i had autopilot off, wasnt recording

[lime ermine]

Should work

[wanton stag]

if it matters im playing on experimental

[naive pendant]

Afaik the station needs to be toggled to load/unload correctly too.

[wanton stag]

The station is set to load

it has power, it shows operational

ok nvm its loading when its running on its own

for some reason it just wont load manually

also why are the tractors so quiet when they're running on autopilot?

also how wide should my roads be for trucks?

[distant pilot]

It's definitely a flex more than anything

Not only is it a lot of nuclear pasta but as an isolate system its really net negative on dark matter residue

meaning you either use SAM directly to make it or indirectly in making other things with the quantum encoder

[white dawn]

Eh, you get waste-free nuclear and are net power positive. Seems fine to me

Optional for sure, but if you've got no other use for your SAM, it's a fun project

[cyan garnet]

If you are already making singularity cells you can sloop them easily to have enough extra to make ficsonium (ikea lamps)

[latent prawn]

if you sloop either of the last 2 stages of the rod production, the net dmr ends up being zero. in addition, burning the fics rods effectively doubles what your plut yield was. Is it worth it? not really.

[cyan garnet]

I actually backed down my sloopage to 1.5x in two manufacturers (making 45/min total) since I need 30/min for ficsonium and 14/min for portals

[distant pilot]

And that takes a lot of sloops and power, since it’d be in the accelerators and encoders

[cyan garnet]

I slooped just the quantum encoders at the last step to get a closed DMR loop for the fic fuel rods

[distant pilot]

I actually made up the difference by using the excess residue from alien power matrix production

[cyan garnet]

Which means I am making twice as many rods as I had originally planned to

[latent prawn]

yeah, as far as i can math it out, you'd need 72 sloops for the encoders & then 34 in the sam constructors

seems like a fun thing to build if you have the time, honestly

[marble tinsel]

Trying to figure out why I couldn't start Tier3 upgrades for the past 15 minutes and realized I have to build the space elevator thingy 😂

[bitter agate]

It's been a few months since I opened the game...

[wanton stag]

Should I use compacted coal for power generation or should I just use it for turbo fuel to produce power?

Also, how wide should my roads be for trucks?

[trim vine]

is there anything in the base game that can show the IPM going through a belt?

[leaden turret]

in 1.1 yes

[trim vine]

1.1 has so many QOL changes

ok, so for now, its only mods, gotcha

[leaden turret]

or your own eyeballs and a pencil if you can see/tally that quickly

[trim vine]

tried to send a gif of kermit typing crazy fast 😛

[spice condor]

okay hear me out

i know its 3:50AM

but i do want a fabric factory...

should i sleep or make factory

cause i cant choose

[jolly garnet]

The game will tell you to eventually sooo factory?

[spice condor]

bet bet

[atomic notch]

will you be able to sleep with a factory on your mind?

[spice condor]

never tried it...

[atomic notch]

i cant dude

[spice condor]

then ill finish it

[atomic notch]

fabric is like polymer resin and water right?

[spice condor]

only gonna take about 3 days but we ball

[spice condor]

yea

[atomic notch]

i should remember that when i do my resin

[cyan garnet]

Compacted coal has marginal use in regular coal gens. Probably better put towards turbo/rocket

[cyan garnet]

IIRC you want at least 1.5 foundations wide per lane (or 3 foundations for a two lane road). In my experience it’s easier just to use the natural roads on the map than trying to build your own

Fabric factory should really be fabric->gas filter->iodine filter factory

[tawny urchin]

I heard that conveyor lifts have infinite height if you attach them to a conveyor lift floor hole. I tried but it’s not working, has it been patched?

[dense violet]

you have to keep connecting them to holes

[wind herald]

It only works if you connect it to a floor at the bottom and top.

[tawny urchin]

Oh, then you can delete the holes and it looks like it’s longer than it should be?

[dense violet]

no you need the holes

[tawny urchin]

Oh dang

I guess it looks better than having a set of stairs to get a belt down

[boreal musk]

if you delete the holes, it will delete the lifts too

[tawny urchin]

Yep seeing that now

[wind herald]

You can just delete the foundations that the hole is in. If you use 1m foundations, the conveyor floor hold is small enough.

[wanton stag]

Natural roads?

[wanton stag]

Is there any real reason to use the regular turbo fuel recipe when turbo heavy fuel exists?

[dense violet]

natural roads = land paths

turbo heavy has really bad oil efficiency

there's very few reasons to ever use turbo heavy

[cyan garnet]

SCIM has an overlay for the roads if you want to see where they are. They are pretty obvious up close, generally look like dirt tracks/roads all over the place

[prisma viper]

guys how many coal gens can 1 water extractor handle?

[pale brook]

3

[grizzled lotus]

is there a way to rotate/adjust buildings wi thout dismantling them?

[warped cove]

did they ever patch out the let's game it out way of disposing of nuclear waste and if they did is there any other methods ( intended or not )

( I have not gotten to that part of the game yet so I was curious )

[dense violet]

1 extractor cannot handle 3 gens unless you mess with clocking

[dense violet]

and it's really good practice not to calculate things by buildings, do it by resources produced vs consumed

how much water does each coal gen need pm? how much water does each extractor produce pm?

[lime ermine]

Which way the doggo one?

[warped cove]

yeah that

[lime ermine]

I'll test it

[prisma viper]

how about i overclock it by 250%??

[lime ermine]

It's easier to build a bunch of water extractors imo. Three extractors will perfectly fill 8 gens

[prisma viper]

i have limited space tho

might expand to larger water spaces

[prisma viper]

sure

ima go build it rn

[lime ermine]

Where are you? That crater lake with the coal near the beach?

[prisma viper]

ye

[lime ermine]

Yeah you've got room

[prisma viper]

i alr filled it with coal gens

[lime ermine]

Build those on the beach

Use the water area for water

[prisma viper]

ye and how do i load blueprints?

[lime ermine]

There's a tab in the build menu for that

[prisma viper]

oh

thx

[dense violet]

please do the math

jfc

your factories will be crippled if you don't learn to do this

[prisma viper]

ye

[dense violet]

find a bunch of coal nodes next to water , every starting zone has at least one like that nearby

[dense violet]

and if you're just starting out I highly recommend you don't install a bunch of random downloaded blueprints.

not only will you not actually learn building and designing and everything you'll really need for the game, but a lot of them are just kinda bad and broken

[grizzled lotus]

is the 3rd biome in the selection screen the same hell-forest that you find near the first biome?

[cyan garnet]

You’re gonna have to be more specific

[grizzled lotus]

it was on an old save so I can't remember which direction it was to be hoenst

[cyan garnet]

Northern forest (third biome start) is not what I would call a “hell forest” not sure what you are referring to

[wind herald]

Are you referring to the Red Forest?

[grizzled lotus]

it had so many spitters and poison flowers hiding among so many trees

[cyan garnet]

Or the titan forest?

[grizzled lotus]

it was kind of blue and purplish

[cyan garnet]

Probably the southern forest, east of the grassy plains start

In between grassy plains and blue crater

[wind herald]

That make sense. I don't spend much time in that area of the map. I don't think there is anything too terribly important over there besides Blue Crater.

[latent prawn]

because the mods that do item counting on belts are (or were at one point) kind of bad, what i liked to do to eyeball it was drop the belt speed down as close to the prod rate as i could and see if the number of empty spaces on the belt seemed about right. it is low tech & inexact, but simple. also, if you want to do the extra work, you can inject some item like concrete at a fixed rate onto the belt and see if it fills the belt completely

i.e. if you're trying to verify that your prod rate of some item is exactly 240, if you inject 30/min concrete onto that belt with speed of 270, you shouldn't have empty space on it anymore

[loud quail]

I tend to just check up uptime percentage of the machines contributing to that belt

[cyan garnet]

A few geothermal geysers and more importantly the closest quartz nodes to the blue crater

[latent prawn]

that quartz is magnificent 😄

gotta say though, it is really inconveniently placed for running trains or trucks

[loud quail]

yeah, I wanted to do something fancy but ended up belting it out of there

[latent prawn]

i ended up building a train station on the side of the void hole in my last playthrough and doing some mid-distance belting for it

[loud quail]

neat, I might steal that idea for future train stations

[latent prawn]

it seems like all the quartz on the map is in places that are really difficult to build transports

[warped cove]

did that ever amount to anything

[latent prawn]

the quartz in titan forest is pretty nasty for trains as well

[loud quail]

I belted that to the swamp for a big aluminium project in the end

[latent prawn]

also, getting back to talking about the grass fields quartz, it seems like there may be a cute little path to run a truck to blue crater, but driving that path (at least w/o building a road) is pretty nasty

[loud quail]

the classic scenery vs convenience dilemma

[leaden ether]

Coal throughput short? How can that be? ... How in the world does one end up with a single Mk1 belt in the middle of a half km long Mk3 belt system?!?

[loud quail]

oof, I feel that one

[leaden ether]

Building after midnight I guess -.-

[steel shoal]

a

[forest bridge]

How do I tell if my train is actually loading stuff onto it

It just says that it's docking

[latent prawn]

the station animation loads the train cars and the flatbeds get a cargo container

[forest bridge]

yeah it's done that right

but now it's just sitting in the station

still says docking and the brake signal is flashing

Not sure if I broke it or something

[leaden ether]

Do you see any objects in the storage for the dock?

(outgoing)

[forest bridge]

I have a conveyor loading rotors into it

and there's a car full of them that got loaded onto the train

It said the next station wasn't reachable so I deleted and remade the time table

Now it says operational again

oh now it says unreachable again

when I literally drove it to each station manually without issue

do I have the orientation of dock and station wrong? How it is supposed to be layed out

[cyan garnet]

I ended up running a truck line here so I could use the quartz for pink diamonds for synthetic shards/ionized fuel. Navigating the autopilot route around those purple trees was a bit of a pain but not too bad

[cyan garnet]

For this one I built a train station at the bottom of the cliff in the swamp and conveyored it down lol. Same w the uranium in the waterfall cave

[cyan garnet]

Your station is probably backwards

[latent prawn]

yeah, there's ways, its just that the terrain fights you

[forest bridge]

I have freight first, then station

running a push-pull

[cyan garnet]

(] [] [] =====

Rounded side of the station needs to be on the outside. Flat side of the station connected to the freight platform(s)

[forest bridge]

Right

I have just one freight though

[cyan garnet]

Doesn’t matter how many

There are lights on the sides of the freight platforms. They won’t be lit up if the placement is wrong

The train drives into the station such that it comes to a rest pointing the same way as the curved station w the freight cars behind

When you place a station the build hologram has an arrow pointing this direction too

[forest bridge]

Ok yeah that's it

I had one of the station platforms backwards

Didn't see the little arrow

Thanks

[cyan garnet]

np. Easy mistake to make, I did the exact same thing my first time. It’s what prompted me to join this discord, in fact

It seemed obvious in retrospect, but the fact I could manually drive the train without issue was throwing me off

[forest bridge]

Life is about to get so much easier now that I can shuttle parts between factories 🙏

[wind herald]

I totally forgot about those.

[quick sky]

does over/underclocking generators modify the power gained per fuel?

thanks in advance for answering

[night phoenix]

Pretty sure it decreases/increases the time of the fuel burning and changes the power also

[cyan garnet]

Power output and fuel consumption scale linearly w clocking

A generator at 200% OC is identical power output and fuel consumption as two generators at 100% all it does is save space

Which can be very helpful with large scale fuel/turbofuel/rocketfuel setups

[reef basin]

No

[forest bridge]

holy smokes fuel generators are 250MW per

We're going to the moon

[quick sky]

Thabks

[cyan garnet]

Just wait until you see nuclear power plants

[forest bridge]

lowkey I heard Nuclear is still worse than rocket fuel

dunno if it's fake news tho

[cyan garnet]

Depends on what you mean by “worse” - that’s entirely subjective

[elder apex]

nuclear vs rocket fuel is constantly being debated here, with many people on both sides for their preference

[forest bridge]

Nuclear being a pain in the ass to set up whereas rocket fuel is more plug n' play

[cyan garnet]

tbh it’s apples and oranges. Rocket fuel is fairly simple from a production chain perspective, but requires a metric asston of generators

Nuclear production chain is a bit more complicated but a single NPP produces 10x the power

[forest bridge]

Ah I see

[cyan garnet]

The power yield on uranium is also insane. A single impure node is good for upwards of 90 GW depending on recipe choices and waste processing

[reef basin]

nuclear is indeed a bit more complex, but basic nuclear is still very simple and you build 10 times less power plants

whether or not you find one of these "better" or "easier" or anything is purely up to you. You can't really compare two completely different things 🙂

[elder apex]

i swear every time i see NPP i read it as NP vs P

[forest bridge]

I'll figure it out when I get there I guess
In the meantime, any tips on scaling fuel generators

[reef basin]

build more I guess

[forest bridge]

Is there a rule of thumb schematic like with coal

Someone had a command for a simple coal blueprint that was nice

[reef basin]

no, because with fuel gens you have like 50 different ways of getting fuel

also (and don't take this in a wrong way, this is a tip) at this point in the game you should be able to make such a blueprint yourself, rather than blindly copying something someone else made

[cyan garnet]

Fuel gens only have one input so there’s really nothing to it

The coal gen schematic helps people figure out how to deal with coal and water inputs at the same time

[forest bridge]

Makes sense

[reef basin]

more like "you're new to pipes and the first non-clocked integer ratio requires in total more water than one pipe can handle, so you have to put some thought into it, which many people don't"

[junior laurel]

I like nuclear more because I like the spicy rocks :>

[storm bluff]

Guys
Don’t make my mistake !
I have been playing almost 1000 hours and now I figure how to build foundations with blueprints. And also rails.

[junior laurel]

I do not see a mistake. I see a moment where you learnt something new

[storm bluff]

They snap to each other more easily than other foundations

[storm bluff]

It kinda hurts I wanna tell the world now

I tried them before and didn’t see the gain of time but now I do

[junior laurel]

👀 still don't see a mistake, you just learnt a better way to use them.

[storm bluff]

Hehe true

[junior laurel]

Learning new things is never a mistake*, it is progress ^_^

[storm bluff]

The mistake is not doing it before 🙂

[junior laurel]

Under the circumstance of having time travel and don't mind creating paradoxes then yes it was always a mistake

[austere valve]

Is learning how to do bad stuff a mistake?

[fallen orbit]

There is turbofuel in sulphur tree how does one unlock rocket fuel?

[forest bridge]

Is there any way to get rid of the weird things that make the green gas that kills you

[remote junco]

yes nobelisks

[forest bridge]

oh thank god

I'll grab a gas mask then blow them up then

[remote junco]

not sure about the sporeplantthigies thou

[remote junco]

no need you can throw them far enough

for the mask

[forest bridge]

Is there like a technique for throwing them

mine haven't been going very far

[remote junco]

just hold the throw button to charge your throw and look a bit up (like at most 45 degrees)

[forest bridge]

ohhhhhhhh you can hold it to charge

was that new with 1.0

[remote junco]

nope, i think not

[scenic timber]

What's everyone think the chances of getting FSR4 officially in 1.1 are? Works great using the OptiScaler mod currently.

[remote junco]

To get Rocketfuel you first need to reserche turbofuel
https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/MAM#Sulfur

[junior laurel]

What do you think the * is for?

[rich ivy]

yall i just noticed something

and when i point it out youll never not notice it

the entirety of the particle accelerator is floating off the ground by a tiiiiny bit

its JUST the particle accelerator thats like this

[quick sky]

How do I make sure foundations are aligned the same way? I placed down 500 of them before realizing that the lines are all out of order 🥹

[dense violet]

you can use the world grid by hold ctrl while placing them

[remote junco]

you can align them to the world grid. But you have to use 2m or 4m foundations (at least one, then you can use 1m) because 1m dont snap to the hight so easiely

[quick sky]

Yes but they don't align rotationally

[dense violet]

however the world grid is a noob trap if you care about design at all

[dense violet]

they do if you've placed them with ctrl

[quick sky]

They align to the grid but can be at either of two angles

[quick sky]

Maybe.. I'll have to try

[dense violet]

but... again, there's never any real need to have distant factories on the same grid.

[fallen orbit]

Is the diluted fuel recipe to be unlocked from harddrive in blenders?

[prisma thicket]

Yes

[digital depot]

1000% same to me ,... dont worry youre not alone ,... !

[spice condor]

okay... its done

but

i do want a gas filter factory.....

[prisma thicket]

Can raw resources be put into the awesome sink?

[reef basin]

yes, but why? 😄

[prisma thicket]

Just wanted to make sure, it's part of an overflow sushi belt, shouldn't be much once the machines are running at 100%

[ashen belfry]

Uranium ore gives a decent amount of points early on

[prisma thicket]

Nah not dealing with uranium, at least not yet. Using sulfur for classic batteries, but I wanted to manifold the manufacturers, so I ran everything on one belt and used smart splitters, but just to make sure nothing backs up there's an overflow line at the end going to a sink. Just wanted to make sure the raw sulfur wouldn't clog the machine.

[livid heath]

uhh guys

nvm

[clever pier]

greeny have you actually played the game yet?

[unkempt blade]

I do that a lot early game with nearby quartz and uranium just to get tickets flowing

then at some point quartz gets an upgrade to actual manufactured items and a proper overflow setup

[reef basin]

I did

[clever pier]

woohoo !

[reef basin]

(in 2019)

[reef basin]

imo always worth to process it at least once, if not more. Base ores give very little

[clever pier]

oh I mean to the end after 1.0 came out?

[reef basin]

oh, no chance

[clever pier]

lmao

[reef basin]

I still have like 50 hours and last played in May 2019

if not counting a few random launches to test if I can launch it on linux

[clever pier]

I'm playing it on bazzite linux. works great

sometimes the advice you give however, its obvious you haven't actually played making end game factories

[reef basin]

?

[unkempt blade]

yeah @reef basin have you even removed as many conveyors as possible and replaced them with truck stops and factory carts like the pros do? 😆

p.s. I love you and your planning tool even if you use too many conveyors

[green fiber]

Every conveyor can be swapped out with a factory cart at some stage

[unkempt blade]

they're the oompa loompas of vehicles - tiny, delightful, and make fun noises as they do stuff

[median drift]

@unkempt blade I used a factory cart to deliver HMF from my AAAB district to my TPR district.

It works quite well.

[unkempt blade]

Yeah I just like to see all the little vehicles zooming around while I build. I run extra trains too just because once power allows

[median drift]

Trains are coool.

[strong fiber]

Grow a garden

[livid heath]

GUYS

SINCE WHEN ARE THERE BOARS THAT ACT LIKE GUIDED MISSILES AND BLOW UP?

[reef basin]

since you've pressed caps lock

[livid heath]

so since a few secs ago?

[reef basin]

that was supposed to be a subtle nudge to "please don't post all-caps messages"

[livid heath]

ah sorry

oh its a world easer egg

youch

[junior laurel]

His name is Johnny and he is friendly.
He shows affection in his own way

[livid heath]

i'll thank him next time i see him blow up in my face

[frozen ingot]

i prob get a bit to ofixated on getting diluted packaged fuel by the time i hit tier 5 but it's just so damn good lol

[fallen orbit]

Took 3 hours but dismantled my packaged diluted fuel production setup and replaced them for blenders
I couldn't figure out alot of the packaged setup although I managed to build a 20gw plant it fluctuated alot like 15-20gw
So blenders now constant 20gw coming in

#screenshots

[frozen ingot]

why lol

purely for the aesthetic?

the y ield is the same iirc, it just eliminates the packaging and unpackaging. Slight power difference too, icr in favour of which recipe

my packaged setup didn't fluctuate 😛

[unkempt blade]

I like the blender recipe better but the trick for the packaged one is usually just adding more containers to the loop until it works right 😄

[frozen ingot]

👀😊

[fallen orbit]

Yea I did everything right but even after so much troubleshooting I left it as it was and it also looked quite bad as I still was at the start
So teardown and blenders

[boreal musk]

just make a blueprint for the packager loop and put 20-100 canister inside, easy once click and done

[reef basin]

the trick with packaged ones is to make it in 1:1:1 modules with 20 canisters inside

[fallen orbit]

I might just be obsessed of getting a straight power production line

[unkempt blade]

yeah this is something I definitely blueprint, it's a crazy amount of packagers for a full setup

TIL there's a magic number - I've been lazy and just stick a storage container between the output line and the input line and I just keep adding containers until there's always barely some in the storage container

[frozen ingot]

pretty sure i did it in modules

like direct pass through from machine to machine

it worked really well

[fallen orbit]

At that time I didn't even have blueprint designer mk2 or 3
Also yea I kinda rebuild it for aesthetic

[frozen ingot]

gives you 10GW out of a normal oil node

[frozen ingot]

yeah no i totally get it as soon as you said it looked bad, i do the same thing sometimes 😄

[reef basin]

the number is not much relevant, the trick is to not have central belt for packages

[frozen ingot]

not criticising, just curious, and pointing out it can be stable

[reef basin]

each set of packager/unpackager/refinery has its own small belt loop with a few canisters

[unkempt blade]

central belt is fine as long as it's saturated enough, but I am most likely using more containers on the line than I could using your methods

[fallen orbit]

The ones on the shore are pure right? I get 20gw out of it

[frozen ingot]

exactly yeah 20GW for a pure node, 10 for a normal

[boreal musk]

600 oil gives you 20GW with diluted setup

[worthy hatch]

Have there been any plans to make lead lined walls to protect from radiation?

[unkempt blade]

for my first diluted setup I'm usually doing fuel +plastic + rubber which still winds up being net positive on power (which is why the recycled + diluted + HOF chain is so fun)

[inland zealot]

Anyone just get bored after 3

seeing the stuff needed for phase 4 ended me

[unkempt blade]

It helps me to break big projects down into smaller projects working towards a goal as the game goes along. Some of the factories are kind of overwhelming if you're building them at mid-end game scale

[inland zealot]

Ill give that a go

[clever pier]

make your own blueprints, unlock alts and use somersloop to accelerate elevator parts and it makes phase 4 a lot more tolerable

example encased cables makes you need a lot less machines for cable production for automated wiring as long as you also have plastic

steel screws is another one that helps a lot

[naive pendant]

@inland zealot Phase 4 is a lot and comes after players have already seen a lot of the core mechanics of the game. So quite common to feel that way.

[clever pier]

I'd also recommend set up a small train network... bring rubber and plastic to somewhere with lots of iron and copper. fully automate computers and heavy modular frames if you haven't already

and go hard drive hunting while waiting for stuff to be made

[fallen orbit]

I just got to p4
I have 4/min hmfs producing(with 2x output)
10/min computers
I can easily produce alot of rubber and plastic but currently do not have a big network only 4 trains running but in small distances

Also got aluminium running aswell

[clever pier]

there are some alts that make aluminium a lot less painful imo

you can eliminate needing silica

[fallen orbit]

Yea but I needed a bit to get started so I made a small factory 240/min aluminium ingots

But I might just go further with the orignal aluminium recipe as I have the logistics already there to make more aluminium

Silica,copper i set a train route and coal bauxite were close

I can just increase the copper production and silica production as needed

[clever pier]

copper alloy alt is great for ramping up copper

[left totem]

that made phase 5 a lot more tolerable, just semi automating ai expansions and BWP

[livid heath]

i just set up fuel for my jetpack, so happy with it, now i needa get rubber for the fuel energy thingy

petroleum power

[ruby gyro]

time to make 4 fused mod frames/min

suuurreeelllyyy thats enough

[reef basin]

probably more than enough, unless you'll make tons of converters/particle accelerators

[ruby gyro]

i hope its enough for the future frames as well, we'll see 🤷‍♂️

[reef basin]

future frames can make their own FMFs 🙂

[ruby gyro]

i know they can
just trying a bit of a different playsttyle this save
just a bit lmao

[reef basin]

if you're building ahead, best you can do is plan for X per minute of future frames and see how much you need for future 🙂

[ruby gyro]

i know

[atomic notch]

imo best way to plan ahead is makin ur factories expandable in p3 then in p4 when u get 780 belts all it is is adding a few more buildings and maybe tweak clock speeds but def better than having to delete and rebuild or makin way too many

[reef basin]

I'd recommend to never rebuild or add more, always build new

[atomic notch]

Idk i like to get all my manufacturing done in p3. Even if its just like 1 per minute for some things

But once its there and most of the math is done its easier for me to just like double it vs planning a new factory

[reef basin]

well you can just build the same thing next to the first factory 🤷

[livid heath]

guys how does everyone paint those nice lines with the painted beams? for me it keeps snapping to everything every second like walls and foundations

found it! it was the bloody build mode thingy

[static surge]

Satisfactory supports frame gen right?

[mossy moon]

i think so?

[atomic notch]

Thats what i mean lol

[reef basin]

well by "add more" I meant adding machines to existing factories/manifolds

[atomic notch]

I do things a lil different

[mortal ginkgo]

you are a shrimp that crusades

thats least expected me thinks

[atomic notch]

Addin machines is a bad idea. I usually will clock them to make an easy manifold like 390 then 2 manifolds is just a 780 belt

[reef basin]

I'd rather build the amount that I need than limiting myself to arbitrary number (e.g. belt speed)

[spark ruin]

yes, it supports both FSR and DLSS FG

[junior laurel]

Do you create X turbo belts of stuff in factoro good sir?

[reef basin]

factorio has completely different approach to building things than SF (and I'm yet to build turbo belts)

[atomic notch]

You do math you shoul know theres a near infinite amount of numbers. Should be one that gets you what you need

[reef basin]

my point is that I don't plan for 780 just because that's a belt speed, I plan for X which is exactly what I want to make/need for next step

[atomic notch]

Yeah its just an arbitrary number i came up with lol

Currently not planning anything just bullshitting lol

Like if i was doing screws id try to hit 260 or something divisible by that

[clever pier]

steel screws my beloved

[atomic notch]

If i wanted x materials id just divide x by the output of my manifolds and itd show me how many i need to build and clock speeds

[reef basin]

I just figure out the final number I want and clock everything accordingly

I don't consider logistics for choosing numbers

[atomic notch]

I do ig

Just depends on where you wanna do ur load balancing ig

[idle wyvern]

Anywhwere to drop suggestions on this server?

[reef basin]

I don't do load balancing, pointless in SF

[reef basin]

what suggestion would that be?

[idle wyvern]

Well it's not golf... Promise..

[golden furnace]

Is there something special I have to do when getting into a hypertube cannon? I feel like certain cannons shoot me further than others even through they have the same number of entrances. Could it be an error when placing it down? I have it on a blueprint so I don't see how one could differ from another.

[reef basin]

if you mean game suggestions, then QA site, however I'd recommend against posting meme content there

[idle wyvern]

It's a few game suggestions that are inline with the current game. Not suggesting a different game, just a few suggestions on possible growth directions and what not.

[quick sky]

will the almighty devs add a way to automate medicinal inhalers in the future?

it would be accurate to make meds out of oil

[reef basin]

yeah then QA site

[latent prawn]

they've sort of poo-poo'd the idea a bunch of times, idk why

[quick sky]

another suggestion that I'd want to see implemented is more ways to monitor and control factory status. The experimental conveyor throughput sensor is good, but ideally I'd like some way of remotely accessing machine information like on a computer (we got superintelligent quantum AI but no actual 'puters? bruh) and a way to control bottleneck points like a thing you put on a conveyor that stops all item transfers when you flick a switch

[quick sky]

maybe because it'd make you OP easily, also like renewable biomass

[latent prawn]

yeah, gestalt monitoring, it is much needed in the game

[reef basin]

same as above, use QA site if you want to suggest things to devs 🙂

[quick sky]

can you post links here?

[reef basin]

some, yeah

there's a whitelist

[latent prawn]

on my hitlist for ways to improve the game, making rails and roads easier to build is #1 and #2 would be monitoring

[quick sky]

can you post the link to the qa site?

[latent prawn]

1.1 does A LOT for rail building

[fossil ice]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
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[quick sky]

thanks

I'd also like a way to test blueprints inside the blueprint thing cause I'm lazy and can't be bothered to build it outside 🤤

[latent prawn]

imho, it still isn't quite enough

[latent prawn]

be happy that we now have bp delete mode. before that, making a mistake in a bp was really rough, lol

[mossy moon]

for rails? i disagree i came up with what i think is a perfect system to build them and its only possible bcs of autoconnect, i have no complaints

[reef basin]

see above, it's also in #welcome (which I kinda assumed you've read, and if you haven't, heavily recommended to do so 😛 )

[latent prawn]

they still take a considerable amount of time to build

[quick sky]

umm yeah I uh of course I read the rules, I did 😅

[mossy moon]

not that long using my method (too complicated to explain but its very simple to execute)

[ashen mauve]

good stuff takes time 🙂

[mossy moon]

and railways are just desgined to take a bunch of effort to build

[ashen mauve]

i spent 50 hours just desigin my pillars for my rail line.

[quick sky]

can you just BP various angles of rail turns and just use those forever?

[reef basin]

you can but where's the fun in that

[latent prawn]

yeah, it is more that if you're covering a lot of ground with rails, each pass you need to do over the rail way for pillars, decoration, signalling, etc takes time, and altogether that really adds up

[quick sky]

it's efficient

[mossy moon]

desgin them right bcs that will save insane amoutns of time when building the rails

[quick sky]

ADA would be very proud

it goes a long way towards saving all the kittens and puppies I'm sure

[reef basin]

it's not, efficient networks are those that are designed directly based on the needs, not those that are built from 4 different blueprints

[mossy moon]

no i just have 1 pillar bp and a scaffolding bp just to get easier snapping and its very quick and easy

[quick sky]

I don't understand what you mean

I think I have a great need for train tracks that don't look like they have scoliosis

also it's easier to snap them to the world grid so there's that I suppose

[ashen mauve]

is all good 🙂 they are modular. i can mix and match to get the right size.

[reef basin]

practically every junction is different in terms of priority, required throughput and space/visual flair

[latent prawn]

i believe what greeny is saying is that rails can't just be spammed out from a small set of bp's

[quick sky]

mine are built different

[mossy moon]

not for me bcs i have made a system which is in my eyes perfect. no extra signaling bcs its built in and rails placed and the lenghts and stuff line up easy for junctions and all

[reef basin]

while building a network from set of BPs indeed works, you can't really call it "efficient", if it's just generic BPs not tailored to your specific needs

(also world grid is 🤢 )

[quick sky]

yeah I mean just bp the angled turns for when you want a specific angle but can't be bothered to do any tricks with foundations

just do it once and be done with it

[mossy moon]

i just dont know how to explain it without a whole video and i never done that

[quick sky]

I bet you prefer imperial to metric don't you

[ashen mauve]

well hopefully in the future we may get a road tool and a railway tool to paint rail ways 😄

[reef basin]

no, imperial should be burned down to ashes

[latent prawn]

low blow

[quick sky]

🤝

[mossy moon]

eh is it?

[ashen mauve]

whats wrong with world gird? dont use it then......

[quick sky]

one part of destroying nature and reprocessing it into delicious efficient factories is elminating any sort of natural variation in angles, lengths, heights and so forth

[reef basin]

WG makes it that everything is only in two different directions, impossible to fit builds nicely to surrounding terrain.

and factories can easily be connected without using WG

[latent prawn]

keeping yourself on the world grid vs knowing when to use it and when to dump it is advanced building skillz

[mossy moon]

yea i barely use the world grid for railways and stuff but its nice being able to start a big facotry at more than one point with a foundation and its easy to make it one building

[quick sky]

the delicate beauty of nature? sublime ratios? elegant evolution? nah, make it all square and concrete and metal

[unkempt blade]

my answer is skyroads with rails! skyroads as far as the eye can see!

[mossy moon]

its very nice being able to start a planned building from for example two corners and have it work

[quick sky]

If I build a single non-straight conveyor, I am going to vomit. Except for vertically stacked manifolds, that's the only exception.

[mossy moon]

define sky road for me ples?

[ashen mauve]

roads in the sky 🙂

[serene pulsar]

Any way to reset the looking for group cooldown 😄 made a post and accidently deleated it hahaha

[reef basin]

again, that forces you to certain rotation and position. I'd rather use local grid for given factory, that would be much better feature than having a central WG

[reef basin]

I didn't say that I build off-grid

I said that I don't like being forced to build on one specific grid

[reef basin]

not really, gotta wait

[mossy moon]

well my buildings are too big that terrain dosent matter bcs i just have to go over it no matter what

[quick sky]

Keeping everything in perfect mathematical alignment and perfectly square is one more step towards Ficsit's total victory over inefficient natural life. Who needs more than one shape?

[reef basin]

people who actually care about how their factories look

[unkempt blade]

like this #screenshots message

[quick sky]

Of course I care about how it looks. As long as it looks square

[reef basin]

and... you can do squares easily without WG

[unkempt blade]

waaay above terrian and with nice right angles 😆

[frozen ingot]

yeah i sometimes like to build factories off the world grid, usually depending on the terrain

like if you want to maximise space building next to a huge cliff

[mossy moon]

oh i was tlaking about trains

[ashen mauve]

same thing just trains in the sky.

[quick sky]

let me introduce you to the ultimate factory design: floating square foundation in the middle of nowhere

[mossy moon]

you can make it look good with the world grid it realy dosent matter

[junior laurel]

I only use world grid of the subterranean part of ma factory.. so things most people don't see but my OCD always knows it's there

[unkempt blade]

yeah I do road + train + hypertube as one blueprint with room under the road for short run conveyors

[reef basin]

how can I make it look good if it limits my rotation and vertical offset?

[mossy moon]

@reef basin why did you say no if there isnt really an official defenition

[quick sky]

As ADA says, "skill issue"

[mossy moon]

you just do

using skill

[unkempt blade]

he has a different building style preference from me which is perfectly fine 🙂

[ashen mauve]

what looks good is subjective to the eye of the beholder. just build what you want. what looks good to you. how you build dont matter in this game (:

[unkempt blade]

it's a sandbox game so the important thing is that the player is having fun

[reef basin]

given that we're talking about our preferences and opinions, I'd say it has... official definition of my opinion is pretty clear

[mossy moon]

mb mb

[reef basin]

I want a building to be rotated 45 degrees, so that it can fit between that hill and that ravine

can't do it with WG

[quick sky]

isn't that the only angle you can attach other foundations onto world grid foundations, other than parallel?

[reef basin]

you can rotate foundations in small increments, replace 45 degrees with any number specific to location I want to build at... that's the problem

[quick sky]

yes, of course, an even more perfecter shape than the square... two squares....

[unkempt blade]

if you place a foundation using wg and then place another on top of it you can rotate the top one as desired. It's not oriented the same way as the WG but it would be centered on a wg foundation

[mossy moon]

yeah but i usuealluy build things in mega factories bcs it looks cooler so it would span accross the whole hill or ravine,
basically what im tyring to say is world grid limitations dont apply to what i do so i just like using it

[reef basin]

at which point it's pointless to even start with WG given that the foundation I'm building from isn't on WG rotation anymore

[unkempt blade]

in my case, I'd get clipping in that situation when I hook it up to my global roads but something clipping is ok

[quick sky]

you can restore wg rotation from any wg aligned platform by rotating it the other way

[mossy moon]

yeah ok i agree with this one

[quick sky]

wg alignment is also the most important part for rails, roads and long conveyors

[unkempt blade]

I do some factories off the WG but my global skyroad is ALWAYS on the WG so it connects cleanly when I build it in sections

[serene pulsar]

For multiplayer whatever mods are on the host server apply to your game as well correct, you dont have to download those mods yourself?

[mossy moon]

not for me yippee

[quick sky]

🍝 ?

[mossy moon]

no

[quick sky]

teach me your ways

[reef basin]

rails and roads follow terrain. I don't want my rails and roads to be straight right-angled floating crap

[unkempt blade]

roads are the part I really want aligned because my factory cart swarms don't handle even minor bumps in the road very well

railroads and conveyors I can get more creative with

[quick sky]

right angles 😍

[mossy moon]

#screenshots message this is what i use for rails

world grid useless for that

only for buildings where i want to start building from 2 seperate areas so i can get certain productions running to hten connect into one building, i use world grid

[reef basin]

if I'd wanted to have everything on a grid, I'd go play Factorio

we have 3D game, so I'm gonna use 3D (and that doesn't mean just verticality, but freedom from a grid)

[unkempt blade]

I like factorio too but it doesn't let me decorate everything with rainbows which is a dealbreaker 😄

[quick sky]

I look at it at freedom to make the grid yourself, which is even better really

what's better than destroying natural biodiversity? can't think of anything tbh

[reef basin]

||https://mods.factorio.com/mod/Dectorio||

[zenith pecan]

My setup typically ends up on a kind of grid because of my tunnel network, that said anything that isn't connected to that will be positioned however I feel looks cool.

[junior laurel]

||https://mods.factorio.com/mod/train-trails||
Trains are now part of the decor

Actually no this one
||https://mods.factorio.com/mod/RailBow||

I need to get back to decorating my factorio. I already made a toy train... that I need to put more dev time into 😅 but I also need to get on with vulc... anyway SAMual my beloved, my dearest

[zenith pecan]

Could well lit tunnels be described as decorating 😛

[mortal ginkgo]

So just because of you, I was curious to check "Highlighted Mods" for Factorio. I thought it would be cool...

... Only to see "Hatsune Miku in bikini swimsuit" mod.

Brotherman. My faith in humanity.

[junior laurel]

There is always one mod dev. Always one.
I have not see any others of that... caliber

[mortal ginkgo]

Lets just say there are some other mods of his too... And yes I was curious to check even when I knew what to expect.

[junior laurel]

there is always one pioneer. *Why do you dig where you know there will be... *

Erm that?

[mortal ginkgo]

Maybe the false of hope finding redemption on the guy? 😛

[junior laurel]

You have never done Elder scrolls modding have you?

[mortal ginkgo]

N-no?!

[junior laurel]

If Miki in that attire.. rattles? You then keep it that way

[mortal ginkgo]

I think I will be safe in my safe place.

Playing cute factory games.

😄

[unkempt blade]

omg railbow is amazing

ok time to go boot up factorio I guess now that I can paint emojis across the entire world

[junior laurel]

Good pioneer. The cult knows too much darkness to be saved. I shall protect those

[junior laurel]

The decor mods are there. Just gotta look for them ^_^

[main bramble]

hallo

im from vietnam

[unkempt blade]

yeah my last clear was modless so I haven't gone down that rabbit hole yet

been meaning to try the new expansion though so maybe this is the push I needed

[main bramble]

i need help

I lost my save files for today twice.

[unkempt blade]

lost how?

[terse venture]

i love bam bu nam bu 😄 hi!

[junior laurel]

Literally loading up space age rn. 110% worth if you loved the base game

[main bramble]

yeah i don't know this morning i played for about 4 hours when i exited i saved the game but when i turned it on again it went back to yesterday's save file

[terse venture]

autosave is away too ?

[unkempt blade]

How often does your autosave run and how many do you keep? If you try to load a world do you see more recent saves?

[main bramble]

and i accepted so i did it again and it continued to lose

[main bramble]

about an hour

I'm really frustrated now.

[unkempt blade]

I would check the save directory and see if it has more recent saves and is just trying to open the wrong one

I'm also not sure what would happen if you hard drive is like really really full maybe

[junior laurel]

My spider sense is feeling read only for some reason

[main bramble]

yea and before exiting i also saved one and then exited but it was lost

i think i should delete the game for a while ahhh

[night phoenix]

whats your opinion ab unlocking all the alt recipes

[vestal mica]

i get them all. it is a compulsion. i hate building things with the vague notion that i could be doing it better with more options.

[night phoenix]

tbh i really cant build factories without them but im about half way into phase 3 and can never get the ones i actually want

thinking bout just unlocking them in a save editor at this point

[vestal mica]

i just go get more hard drives

eventually they all unlock

[fallen orbit]

Does anyone know a better way to distribute 600 oil into 20 refineries because I just have a straight pipeline and last 2-3 refineries don't get much oil

[reef basin]

loop the pipe

[fallen orbit]

I already did that it worked so that is the best way?

[leaden ether]

The BEST way is an even split of the pipeline into two, then 4 then 8 etc but that can take up some space. If using a manafold design, then a loop is ussualy necessary OR separate pipe inlets to the manafold every 4 machines or so.

[frozen ingot]

screenshot, diagram?

would help to figure out

but usually looping it is enough

[fallen orbit]

It's just 10 refineries in 2 rows with line of pipes at back connecting at the left side
Does that make sense or should I screenshot

[reef basin]

eh, I would disagree with this, just do a looped manifold

[fallen orbit]

Well the loop is what I know and I have been using am just happy that that it is the solution

Does building drones and dron ports requires RCU's? If so I'll automate them if not I'll just manually craft some

[frozen ingot]

think so yeah

check SFtools codex or the wiki

[fallen orbit]

Again a logistics day to automate RCU's ....

Making everything now just gotta get it all at one place

[leaden ether]

I try to do this with pipes as much as possible: #screenshots message

[fallen orbit]

Also guys how do I see my map pixeled? Like how can I get it to show buildings I have seen some screenshots where people should it

[leaden ether]

If you have LONG manifold's with pipes it's just trouble 😦

[fallen orbit]

Input below?

How do you feed that many specific sets of 2 tho? Again with a straight pipeline?

[leaden ether]

Yeah. I do the same ofr the output on the other side for every 4 refineries and then piped that into a set of generators, again using the two/4/8 way splits. Super reliable

[fallen orbit]

So when the output is 1 and you gotta input it into 20?

A 2/4/8/16 setup?

[leaden ether]

On the underside I have a manafold but it only with 4 junctions per source pipe from the wells.

[fallen orbit]

Oh so basically 2 refineries input becomes yea makes more sense sorry

So if 20 refineries doing a 4 setup would reduce 20 inputs to 5

[leaden ether]

Basically one well to 4 way manifold (under the platform) and each of those split 2 to 4. It's when you try to make a 12+ long manifold that things get bad down the line.

Then the output of 4 refineries combined by the reverse, but each separately feeding 8 generators where I also use just the 2 to 4 to 8 split.

[fallen orbit]

For elaborateing
A 1/2/4 pipeline setup for 5 sets of (4) Refineries will reduce the input to 5 does this make sense or am confused

[leaden ether]

It helps to keep the setup in poweres of 2 😄

[fallen orbit]

Alright I get it the output is just a reversed pipeline setup which divides better into 8

For now I think a loop will work as it is only a 20gw Diluted fuel setup
Will do this when I make a rocket fuel setup

[leaden ether]

Here is where I split the pipes for the generators... #screenshots message

[old hornet]

does turning auto-puase off make the game to easy?

[fresh wharf]

Hey when I make a coal generator setup will biomass burners become completely useless?

[past torrent]

its good to keep them as a backup for a little more longer, since you're going to need a lot of power to start bigger factories

[leaden ether]

It might make it progress quicker (maybe) but you stil have to build all the factories. And so far, for me, the time it takes to build the factories is longer than the time they need to make the parts to advance the story.

[white dawn]

Some folks may keep biomass burners around for a bit longer (as Laro mentioned), and there are various crash sites which need power to open -- often building a temp Biomass Burner or three to open those is a quick way to open 'em

[leaden ether]

It was kind of a weird feeling for me at first to spend 8 hours building a factory then then only took 3 hours to make the parts I needed it for, then seemingly be useless after that.

[white dawn]

Apart from edge cases like that, though, you can definitely just dismantle the Burners and never look back, though

Once I get coal power up, I tend to remove all my old Burners; any other Burner I put down won't be "permanent"

[red jay]

is there an lfg

[night phoenix]

tbh i think satisfactory does this well in that future phases need the parts of previous phases

[white dawn]

#1201555265942724758 :)

[red jay]

sigma

[old hornet]

@leaden ether i think i might keep it off for now. it just makes it to tempting to build small and slow factories

[leaden ether]

Yeah, I had no idea at the time. I can see why people call the compleation of the story a 2-300 hour tutorial 😄 Once you complete it you finally know how it all works and can start over and do it right 😄

THough I have 320 hours and still working my way through phase 4...

[night phoenix]

yeah its pretty long, at 41h rn and ab to finish phase 3

[fallen orbit]

If you have a proper biomass setup by which I mean a container to several biomass burners distribution
Keep it for that one case when something goes wrong and you will also need it to jump start coal

Guys are versatile frameworks used in anything after phase 3?

[night phoenix]

used in the production of magnetic field generators

which in turn are used to make ai expansion servers

[fallen orbit]

That's good then I thought the factory I made might just have to sink it forever

[night phoenix]

all the parts from previous phases get used in the next one

[fallen orbit]

Is it worth it to go for turbofuel or just grind further to rocket fuel

It's actually possible for me to somewhat easily convert my diluted fuel plant into turbofuel just gotta add a seperate area to make turbofuel and get compacted coal to the area

[night phoenix]

tbh if your making turbofuel nitrogen isnt too hard to get

[fallen orbit]

I am gonna make rocket fuel in the blue crater but before that I thought it might be worth upgrading my current diluted fuel setup into turbofuel because I have plenty of space between the generators and fuel production

[dim sundial]

nothing like a crash to make you realize how much you can get done in 20 minutes

[fallen orbit]

Yea this one time I was tearing down alot of pipes and once I got done I was like okay finally but then I crashed and man

[dim sundial]

ive quit games for stuff like that

[night phoenix]

200 modular engines away from being done with phase 3 🫡

[dim sundial]

and then how epic has a seizure after the crash, makes me think epic might be the cause

[terse lake]

Hey guys, I just finished phase 2 and I was wondering how I should approach the next phases and tiers. I mean all my factories are kinda messy and I have a hard time making some parts (versatile was horrible) without going pretty far to reach new nodes and most of them use mk1 miner. For example should I replace my factories with ones with mk2 and probably more organised and optimised for new components ?
(I know there is not a "right way'" to play but still)

[fallen orbit]

Damn am i tripping?
Do I really need 71 refineries just to convert my 1600/m fuel into turbofuel?

Alternate turbofuel refinery recipe

[fallen orbit]

If you need more output from the old factories either just teardown to build better or more if you really want to build at the specific spot or just build it somewhere else
Keep the old factories no need to destroy them

[zenith pecan]

Blueprints and good old repetition are kind of requirements for large scale builds, my current power station has lead to a few wide eyes recently.

[fallen orbit]

Also you really don't need to upgrade belts on old factories as that won't do anything (if there's no requirement for more speed)

[zenith pecan]

I only take down older factories if I didn't build them in a manner that allows for expansion.

[fallen orbit]

So that many refineries are required in turbofuel damn guess am making some blueprints tommrow then

For m personally I have never built factories to allow them for expansion just finished them with making buildings

[dim sundial]

i like to seperate the ingot production from everythign else. That way its quick and easy to switch the ingots when you switch to a more efficient way of making ingots

[candid basin]

In my save where project assembly is complete the phase one objective has popped back up in the top right. anyone else seeing that? It won't let me redeposit in the SE

[zenith pecan]

This gives a rough idea on scale #screenshots message , my power station converts all the blue crater oil into rocket fuel to be burned by 720 overclocked generators.

[fallen orbit]

Jeez that's crazy

Also did you make turbofuel or jumped straight to rocket?

[night phoenix]

speaking of blue crater, can you point it out on the map? iv never been able to figure out where it actually is

[fallen orbit]

Right to grasslands

[zenith pecan]

I went right to rocket fuel from a mix of disparate coal and fuel burners.

[fallen orbit]

Right from*

[night phoenix]

ohh that one

im getting some oil there

[zenith pecan]

Bottom right corner of the map, you'll know it because it's a deep hole with a lake.

[fallen orbit]

Do you think it'll be worth it for me to use my 1600/m diluted fuel from my power plant to make turbofuel and further use it to make power

Stuff ill have to do for it will be
1.make enough compacted coal
2.71 refineries near my fuel setup
3.connections

[craggy zephyr]

Hey ive never played before and am looking to start a long term play though (making mega factories etc) i cant decide if i should start on 1.0 or 1.1, the autoconnecting blueprints look amazing. If i have a save on 1.0 can i upgrade it to 1.1 when it releases?

[fallen orbit]

You have never played before and you have a save on 1.0?

Oh wait sorry

Yea you can upgrade to 1.1

Just start on 1.0 by the time you'll need blueprints alot i think 1.1 will be released

[night phoenix]

i cant lie i didnt buy the game cause it is pretty expensive over here and i didnt know if i would like it

[dim sundial]

honestly i would start on 1.1, it seems stable, at least as stable as 1.0

[fallen orbit]

For me I watched satisfactory videos alot 1-2 years back never had a pc in my life
First time purchased a pc and so purchasing satisfactory

[craggy zephyr]

I see that there are mods for this game, are there any QOL mods I should consider or should I just go vanilla

[night phoenix]

yeah i watched ab 1 video on it and forgor but rn just using a pirated version

[fallen orbit]

Vanilla

I was hooked on videos when I saw pipelines and huge machines people assembling so much stuff now here

[dim sundial]

biggest qol i woudl like is fsr4 support and a quicksave

[fallen orbit]

I might play a whole modded play through after i complete my existing one but it's a while until then

Still at p4

[craggy zephyr]

Haha im waiting until my finals are over, been waiting a month or 2 now to play but i know that i literally wont be able to think about anything else once i start

[fallen orbit]

Yea true

My exams are near aswell soon will have to pause satisfactory for a month

[night phoenix]

same

[fallen orbit]

I don't think ADA will be happy man

With this decision

[night phoenix]

i think i can play a while longer cause my first exam is ez

gotta cram for physics tho

[fallen orbit]

If I was a kid satisfactory calculations would help in maths fr

[night phoenix]

tbh i havent had to do any math besides stuff like 240/60

[night phoenix]

might have to use scim to upgrade all of the belts in my world 😭

[empty spoke]

can i start my 1.0 world in 1.1 without any issues?

[fallen orbit]

Why upgrade the belts? If you built on a old belt isn't that sufficient?

[fallen orbit]

I did and have played 20 hours

Since I did 1.0 to 1.1

[empty spoke]

worth it or should i wait until it realeses?

[night phoenix]

nah its just some of my factories transport stuff by belts to my base so i need them to be faster

[fallen orbit]

For me the elevators were enough to upgrade to 1.1

[empty spoke]

dont rly wanna risk my 1k hours world

[fallen orbit]

Why not use depos

[night phoenix]

i dont think you can automatically take stuff out of depos

[fallen orbit]

I think you can backup but idk tbh
I have only faced a crash or two

[fallen orbit]

Oh you further produce from your base

I thought a storage system

[night phoenix]

i got the silica connector alt recipe so i kinda have to make em next to quartz

[fallen orbit]

I remember making a big ass storage system when I was half way building it got to know about depos and dismantled all of it down lol

[night phoenix]

tbh i got all the recipes unlocked cause id rather spend my time on this game automating than exploring

[night phoenix]

peak satisfactory experience

[empty spoke]

so actually since depots exist, there is absolutely no reason for storage systems anymore?

[fallen orbit]

Am planning on a hunt someday to collect 60+ sloops 100 spheres 1k shards and 100 hard drives
So id be done for a while

[fallen orbit]

Yea I don't thinkso

[night phoenix]

i spawned them in 🗣️

not tryna do all that and make my playtime 4 digits

[fallen orbit]

[night phoenix]

cant wait to reach phase 4 and start making turbofuel

i got the spot mapped out just need the well pressuriser

[fallen orbit]

Is this your second play through?

[night phoenix]

fr cheating on my singleplayer game 😭

[simple falcon]

Is there a way to duplicate a save?

[night phoenix]

fbi comin for me

[night phoenix]

nah on my first rn

[fallen orbit]

You can also cheat in project assembly parts

[night phoenix]

automating is the point tho

that would make the game meaningless

[fallen orbit]

Some side quests with automating is also nice personally I would only cheat the sloops and stuff in my second play through

[night phoenix]

idk i dont see why my factories should suffer cause i cant find the recipe i need for 2+ hours

[wanton stag]

why can we connect building to other buildings? (i,e constructors to constructors)

[night phoenix]

sidequests are nice but id rather spend my limited time on actual automation

[simple falcon]

Do you mean output to inputs?

[fallen orbit]

I just save loop whenever I need a specific recipe

[night phoenix]

i dont got time for all dat tbh

but i respect it

[fallen orbit]

But yea I get it shortage on time better spend it on the stuff more enjoyable

[wanton stag]

no i mean power inputs to other power inputs , like with lights

[simple falcon]

Like chain connecting you mean?

[night phoenix]

i think im gonna pick a harder starting location + no inf drives, sloops for my second playthrough

also make the factories look nicer

[fallen orbit]

Gotta ask that one from ficsit i think they make the machines

[wanton stag]

yeah but with things like constructors you cant chain chain connect them, but you can connect them to eachother

whyyyyy thats so dumb

[simple falcon]

Yeah, I have thought about that too. Don't know why really

[fallen orbit]

Man amma tell you while playing an existing play through i had so many thoughts of what I will do better next time but I have tried it only gets a little bit better loll

[night phoenix]

lmfaooooooooooo real

[simple falcon]

It works with batteries and with other stuff

[night phoenix]

i just want to have fun on this playthrough tbh

[simple falcon]

Maybe it has something to do with overclocking

[fallen orbit]

Like out of frustration made a new save I was about to delete old thankfully discord ppl saved me and said don't delete and guess what I left the new save at 4 hours

[night phoenix]

ngl i wanna make a new save but im not gonna cause instant regret

gotta finish this 1 then mb

[wanton stag]

I need a mod that lets you daisychain machines power connections

[night phoenix]

but gonna get hoverpack very very soon so im excited

[fallen orbit]

Hoverpack is man.. you will find out

As good as depos

[night phoenix]

i have a general idea what it does and i am hyped

and i alr have the aluminum

[fallen orbit]

But hoverpack is definately not for travelling

[night phoenix]

yeah ik

[fallen orbit]

Get the hoverpack then if you have the aluminium not many steps from there

[night phoenix]

yea just gotta do the assembly to phase 4

35 motors left

[fallen orbit]

Damn this is the biggest scale power plant I'll be making
I have 1600/m diluted fuel running
Into 71 refineries to make 1333 turbofuel and that into 70 overclocked fuel generators (am gonna packaged 20 of the turbofuel)

And the compacted coal I need to produce

[robust lichen]

Anyone got tips for not getting overwhelmed when starting a new project?

[fallen orbit]

Break it down into seperate parts

For eg when I saw hmfs
Was overwhelmed with the production but
I divided into smaller sections in a factory
If you are talking about really large scale sorry am not that experienced

[robust lichen]

Yeah I’ve been trying to break it down like that but it just seems like so much. I wanna make a 4km rail road to the crater. Setup the oil site to look like an oil rig. And transport stuff back to my main bus via train. I just don’t know where to start with the train cause I want it to look good and not just spaghetti over the terrain.

[fallen orbit]

Start somewhere
Without starting somewhere you won't get any where
Maybe lay down the railway road track first?

[robust lichen]

Yeah I’m thinking I’ll start there for sure. Will make resource transport for anything else way easier.

[fallen orbit]

Actually maybe setting up the main production be better first as for me I always do the logistics second

[fallen orbit]

Oh you making a general railway not specific factory

[robust lichen]

I meant resource transport for the oil rig build

[fallen orbit]

Sometimes I really wanna do a full t railway road track starting from grasslands going to all the map coming back to grasslands but then I think someday the road might get in way of a factory

[fallen orbit]

Could really do the railway road track or oil rig first as you prefer logistics first or second

[night phoenix]

got to phase 3, prob gonna have to automate hmfs tmr tho

[fallen orbit]

Phase 4

I setup hmfs before completing phase 3 as I knew blenders will require hmfs

[quick sky]

80 hours in, just finished phase 3... Gonna start expanding real hard now, need to make expandable blueprints like they're the meaning of life

[fresh wharf]

Yo, I did some big ass power line system and my power grid keeps shutting down, anybody knows how to fix this?

[azure swan]

The length of your power lines won't impact your power stability. You just simply need to make sure you're making more power than you're using. How are you generating your power right now? What does your power graph look like in normal operation or when it cuts out? It might be good to start a "questions and help" thread so you can post pics easily if you need to.

[fresh wharf]

Solid biofuel, I'm currently making the materials needed for a coal setup
Also yeah I figured it out, I'm making 40 MW while my power grid requires 120 MW

[quick sky]

Are there any creative uses for power switches?

[quick sky]

Turn off some buildings and check if all your power generators have fuel

Turn off more buildings if it doesn't work

[azure swan]

That'll get you every time! You could make more bio generators (triple your fleet) as a stop-gap or just disconnect your factory so your 40MW can kickstart your new coal setup

[fresh wharf]

Alright
Btw what do you mean by kickstart? Everybody's been saying "kickstart" but like does it require power to even turn on before it supplies its own power?

[quick sky]

Tbh you can get pretty far with biofuel. The generators are cheap and if you made base in an area with lots of mycelia, it's going to make a lot of biomass very fast

[azure swan]

The miner(s) pulling up coal will need power and the water extractor(s) (and likely water pumps) will need power in order to get your coal generator running.

[fresh wharf]

Ah, ok
BTW do you have the command that makes the bot send an image of coal setups?

[azure swan]

I say kickstart because after it's running the generator should be supplying a lot more power than those supporting elements consume so it will be able to keep itself alive.

[azure swan]

I don't recall, but it's just pulling up the wiki and searching for coal generator. You should be able to find that on your browser if you want.

[fresh wharf]

Oh yeah, thought it was saved on this server lol, thanks for the help

I will most likely come back crying about pumps in around 20 minutes
CYA

[azure swan]

No problemo. Good luck!

[quick sky]

It's also a good idea to keep a power reserve, in some way. You can make stable setups but you never know when you might need to dismantle your main power source or just mess up your power balance.

My favorite source for this aside from having a million batteries is liquid biofuel, just set up a few buffers with a valve and hook it up to your main fuel gens and you don't even need a new setup + you have a use for the bajillion tons of biomass you might have been hoarding for "later"

[left totem]

just be addicted hard enough that it can't overwhelm you

[leaden ether]

I honestly get actuall PTSD from my years of engineering when a new complex phase opens up or I see what will be involved in starting a new large project. Anxiety hits quickly and sometimes need to take a break. But yeah, the worst part is just pushing though the mental blocks and start working on it...

Even while working on something I'll get hit with it and I realise I've got as case of "Getitdone-itis" and have to tell myself there is no management breathing down my neck any more and I can just relax 😄

[fresh wharf]

Alright, I'll make sure to keep some biofuel then

[wicked nacelle]

I like to just put down the buildings for my final product and rate and then just work backwards. It really makes it feel like a bunch of super simple problems. And then you eventually solve a super simple problem and the whole thing is running and it doesn’t feel like you did anything hard. Just “okay what else do I need next?” Over and over

Of course for big projects it helps to hit a planner and make sure there’s actually resources somewhat convenient for the stuff you’ll want to build on site vs fly in

[leaden ether]

Yeah the first big consideration is WHERE? Scouring the map for a point that is closest to the most sources, it's just at the start, there are so many considerations all at once. 🙂

[green fiber]

Recipes (alts) make that choice easier

As it gives you more options

[outer saffron]

WELP its so late for me and im half asleep and i need yall to tell me how do i split 300 coal and 300 sulfur into 12 assemblers

i cant do math rn

[leaden ether]

But also, more options means more complexity in making the initial site decision 😄 THoughUsing the satisfactory tools makes it somewhat easier by putting in the products and the available sources (and recipies) and it figures out the rest.

[zenith pecan]

Why not build a manifold?

[outer saffron]

i could but then imma need to expend the bottom floor

actually it isnt that much work expanding it tbh

[green fiber]

Split in 3, then in halfs

Or just.... overflow

1 : (3 x 2 x 2) = 1: 12

[outer saffron]

i mean im already working on the manifold i just need to find a way to expend the bottom floor enough

[zenith pecan]

I primarily use manifolds, singular or parallel due to space and simplicity, they allow expansion by just building more on the end or having the inputs move to a second or third floor with minimal effort.

I'm in the middle of gathering SAM for a monster manifold at the moment, 10200 SAM im, 2550 reanimated SAM out.

[outer saffron]

Yeah, i was trying to make the crafting under the floor of the fuel gens, but i had a rock stuck in there so i couldnt expend for a manifold, but imma just hand the belts on the celing and bring em down with a lift

[frozen cloud]

wait youre not reanimating on site?

[zenith pecan]

Some of the landscape features are just meh, I'm better off just putting it all into one location, I really can't be bothered with 20 or so separate factories, and I still need to collect the result.

[wicked nacelle]

Manifold and don’t care

[zenith pecan]

Though the tunnel going into the processing facility will have 17x mk5 belts 🤣

[wicked nacelle]

I always do that locally. And just kiss those sloops good bye forever. Some sloops get moved around over time but never those