satisfactory

[azure swan]

I have very little power headroom so the 300/m plant should make about 90GW of power.

[shrewd palm]

just the control room is taking a while already lmao

[timber island]

my ass tweaking after finding out how many resources I need to convert all the uranium into ficsonium fuel rods:

[azure swan]

That would give me headroom to build a plant for the rest if I want to.

[placid stirrup]

Put your tongue to it

[shrewd palm]

yeah thats awful

if i did that i would have had 1.5TW but no resources to use it on

[azure swan]

Will I need the fuel supply station to be terribly close to the uranium outpost, or will drone fuel resupply not need to be too frequent?

I figure the fuel supply station would use a drone as well, to deliver.

[twin night]

whos pp i gotta suck to gat someone to to fix my power

[nocturne nebula]

lol, that reminds me /// when is the story coming?

[azure swan]

Get more flexible, service yourself, and figure out how to fix your own power.

[junior laurel]

The story is already here?
Just start looking harder

[twin night]

@azure swan bet you felt real tough after sending that huh buddy

[azure swan]

Not sure tough would be the word I'd use. Hilarious? Maybe.

If you think that was tough guy talk you may need a sense of humor.

[twin night]

nah u was bein a dik bc ur insecure abt ur own

[placid stirrup]

🫢 🍿

[twin night]

dont know why i gotta get spat at by a puta when all i did was ask for help

[dawn idol]

i need to get hmf up and running then after that ill need to get alum to get my hover 😭

[azure swan]

Mate, I made a joke cause the way you asked for help was a little...silly? What's going on with your system? How can we help?

[placid stirrup]

You asked for someone to play the game for you and got panties twisted in a bunch when someone jokingly said you should play the game yourself

[twin night]

nah ion want your help gfys

[placid stirrup]

Microplastics in the brain going crazy

[azure swan]

99 times out of 100 when someone "asks for help" this way, they aren't asking for help, they're simply making a joke cause they are having trouble and venting frustration. I guess here we are at time 100. You were actually asking to felate someone and have them play your game for you. Got it.

[zenith pecan]

...

What on earth did I just log in to.

[placid stirrup]

Ad campaign for Mt Dew gone wrong

[zenith pecan]

Eww Ads 🤮

[junior laurel]

installs adblock

[distant pilot]

Installs adplus to get even more ads

[spark ruin]

perfect template for asking help right here : #satisfactory message

https://tenor.com/view/tik-tok-gif-4963626947041558937

[placid stirrup]

Thank you for your service so the rest of us get fewer ads 🫡

[distant pilot]

It actually gives more ads for everyone

[placid stirrup]

You son of a

[nocturne nebula]

lol, I would expect it to stand out more

[junior laurel]

Nope, it doesn't want to be found

[nocturne nebula]

lol

any uses for Alien Capsule except for sinking?

[junior laurel]

Murder economy

[reef basin]

that's what adblock does, technically

[azure swan]

I think a couple of minor researches in the MAM require a couple of them? Otherwise nothing I'm aware of.

[azure swan]

Public service announcement: Make sure you process all of your creature fleshes in slooped constructurs for quadrouple the DNA Capsules (doubled by each stage of the 2-stage process).

[nocturne nebula]

yeah, need to get past oil first, lol

[nocturne nebula]

thanks

[azure swan]

No big deal to process them for 1 capsule each but the powergamer approach would be to hoarde them until you unlock the sloopification.

[nocturne nebula]

goodness me, I have played way too long with my starter iron factory not producing anywhere near enough parts that require assemblers

yes, been hoarding my slugs except for a few cases where I really didn't wanna build more water extractors so just used 1 in each bank of 2 to make 300 water p/m

[azure reef]

will 5 rotor/min last me a whole playthrough? only takes 1 node

should i bump it up to 10

[azure swan]

I burned through like 20 or 40 slugs without sloops when I was a newblet. It's ok though, there are a ton of slugs out there.

[nocturne nebula]

yep

it's hard to use them when you know a lil later you get so much more

[azure swan]

Interestingly there is only 1 thing in the game that absolutely requires a parts/minute threshold (and it's not even involved in elevator part production) so there is no firm requirement on how many of anything you need if you're patient enough.

[viscid crest]

how important is quickwire later in the game?

[azure reef]

yeah i just have no idea if i'm gonna end up running out

i might just wait until stators and motors

then make one for all 3

[leaden ether]

Depends on how long you want to wait for things. Mu motor factory for making the modular engine has 25 rotors/min for 10 engines/min. ANd no idea if that'll be enough eventually.

[azure swan]

Not sure what you're asking, but it continues being used in large quantity if that's what you're driving at.

[viscid crest]

yes thats what I needed to hear, thanks :), was just curious if I should make a bigger factory then I anticipated

[azure reef]

don't really wanna use too many nearby nodes though, i still need a modular frame factory and i dont wanna expand out too far just yet

[azure swan]

No harm in just making what you need now and making more later when you need it.

[azure reef]

don't have a great way for fuel so trucks are out of the question, and belts are expensive

[azure swan]

Also no harm in overbuilding now if that's the approach you want to take (though it may make tracking how much you have on hand difficult)

[azure reef]

i might just go for the 120/min and make 10.666... rotors a min

[azure swan]

Belts aren't too too expensive. Don't be afraid to build outposts elsewhere and shuttle parts around. The game design highly encourages (borderling requires) this.

[azure reef]

yeah, i know

[leaden ether]

At the start of phase 2 I put together one large factory that creates (and stores/DDs) Most all iron and steel products used commonly up through motors and then the engines on the top floor. So it generates Plat, Reinforced plate, rods, rotors, stators, steel pipe steel tubes and encased steel beams all in one spot.

[azure reef]

i'd rather keep most things independant as possible

[azure swan]

Especially if you're sending around higher tier parts. You won't need your highest tier belt for frames most likely.

[leaden ether]

I just put in a conveyor from the western islands to the rocky desert to carry rubber -.- SO MANY materials just sitting on the belt 😄

[azure reef]

yeah i have around 1000 rein plates waiting in a container

[azure swan]

Lol I love it. Honestly with autoconnect blueprints now you can make HUGE belt highways in no time flat. If you really wanted to you could eliminate trains entirely (though trains offer way more flexibility)

[leaden ether]

Trains are my next unlock and my smart plating factory is just miles away from the engine factory so that'll be my first foray into trains

[timber island]

And presumably less lag once you start producing & transporting more comical amounts of resources

[sinful bobcat]

[reef basin]

no, just make what you need now, most of the things are better made on-demand rather than en-mass centralised, but for quickwire/wire/screws, this is even more important due to how much you need

[austere crag]

My whole factory is full of spaghetti

Im afraid of untangling it

I think tomorrow I will try on a different save

And if I fail I will load the main one

[terse venture]

perhaps build a new one over it ? 😄

[frozen ingot]

just move 😄

[leaden ether]

Oh modular engine factory is only 2 per minute not 10 😦

[nocturne nebula]

will likely take longer to start a fresh than clean up, lol

[stiff wolf]

who would like to start a duo world with me?

[terse venture]

its a long way to the end, you will rebuild some stuff again and again 😄

[nocturne nebula]

for sure!

[placid stirrup]

#1201555265942724758

[stiff wolf]

Ik but Im try to just alert people so they know its there because ive been waiting a long while before any answers

[placid stirrup]

That channel exists for a reason. There's almost always someone wanting to play with others but then complain that nobody responds. Perhaps respond to an open post in there?

[stiff wolf]

ok

[austere crag]

No, like a different save on the same world

Also I have just unlocked oil

And it is like 2,500 meters away from my main factory

Idk if its worth processing it there or transporting it to my main factory

[placid stirrup]

Save == world, that's why what you're saying is confusing

[austere crag]

Oh

[azure swan]

@cyan garnet Wanted to ask about something you mentioned in a questions thread without hyjacking the thread.

If I wanted to use a drone to bring uranium to my exclusion zone for processing, I could power that drone with the plutonium rods I'd be manufacturing and planned on sinking. Is there a way to have those plutonium rods accessible for drone use without stacking up a ton of radiation in one place? Ideally I'm providing enough rod for the drone to operate and sinking the rest. I'm guessing that's not possible and I'd have to live with that drone port being red hot right?

[whole ermine]

how many hard drives are there?

[placid stirrup]

!wikisearch hard drive

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=hard

[red sun]

118, but there are fewer recipes than there are drives

[placid stirrup]

Nailed it

[whole ermine]

dont some MAM stuffs require drives?

oh yeah]

[red sun]

only scanning

[whole ermine]

Turbofuel needs it

is there anything to do with extra drives?

[placid stirrup]

I believe they just grant inventory slots

[whole ermine]

not even hand slots?

hand slots are a bigger issue for me bcuz of Alien tech

[red sun]

i am mistaken -

There are 118 Crash Sites, which means a total of 118 Hard Drives can be obtained. Four Hard Drives can be used to unlock alternate recipes via MAM research trees (as opposed to scanning the drives). Scanning the drives will provide a total of 106 recipes plus two opportunities for pioneer inventory expansions. However, because the Quartz Purification scan also unlocks Distilled Silica, and the Polyester Fabric alternate does not require a Hard Drive to research, only 106 Hard Drives are actually scanned for recipes. This leaves 5 Hard Drives unused (6 if FICSMAS participation was done).

[whole ermine]

i hope they add a keybind in 1.1 for hotswapping jetpack and hoverpack

maybe thats the extra thing mikael was talking about :3

[red sun]

that would be awesome\™️

[terse venture]

hihi my world is a spidernet, everywhere i go is a powerline to fly over all hihi

at begin was plateaus

[whole ermine]

Hoverpack kinda slow tho

[placid stirrup]

I like the challenge of swapping mid air before becoming a pioneer road splat

[ruby gyro]

is it just me or do curved hypertubes make my hypertubes cannon slower

well, one of my hypertube cannons is way too slow i think lmao

[terse venture]

have no hipertupe .. 4 trains every direction of map for longer and base is on one pos 140m high pyramide style .p

[burnt hound]

You can unlock trains soon, id just process it there if it were me, set up hypertubes as well

[austere crag]

Yeah I was looking into hypertubes

[burnt hound]

use hypertube cannons theyre awesome

[austere crag]

Never used them as I am just running to whatever I need to go

Can multiple hubs be built?

[leaden turret]

one after the other? yes.
at the same time? no.

[burnt hound]

nar

[wanton summit]

is kibitz here?

[austere crag]

Damn

I thought I can have 2, one at the main factory and one at the future oil process plant

[reef basin]

you can take the hub with you

[austere crag]

Yea fair enough

Didnt think of it

[simple narwhal]

i just got over 100 hours in satisfactory

[austere crag]

Its way too addicting

[wanton summit]

i got over 500

[simple narwhal]

w

im just waiting for my last part of phase 4 to be built

[viscid crest]

I saw people talking about unweighted/mean/weighted relative productivity.. What does the weighted/mean/unweighted mean?

[leaden turret]

Math™️

[viscid crest]

Good thing english isnt my first language and I dont know what exactly these terms mean in this scenario

[leaden turret]

different ways of calculating "averages"

aka... Math

[north iron]

i just got ADA speech..... chu chu mother**ker

[rancid turret]

my goddamn fucking shitass battery plant jammed up after literally hundreds of hours of being fine

never mix water folks

[gritty marsh]

#screenshots message wish I had more time to mess with this screenshot before the body despawned

[oblique hound]

<@&387163995947270144> @woven bear Sending phishing links in chat (checkit seems to have gotten them though)

[worldly pelican]

where?

[gritty marsh]

was in this channel a few minutes ago

[oblique hound]

was just deleted by checkit, almost all channels

[worldly pelican]

yes, the autodelete works

[oblique hound]

sorry, just wanted to let someone know

[worldly pelican]

thanks 🙂

it first sounded like the bot forgot to delete it somewhere

[oblique hound]

yeah, bot took a bit to delete it but its gone :)

[peak wasp]

so am i doing this game right?

#screenshots message

giant roofs supporting machines is fine right?

[gritty marsh]

theres not really a wrong way to play the game

[leaden turret]

the wrong way to play the game is to play the game and not have fun

[gritty marsh]

facts

that is the only way to play a game wrong

I dont care what game it is, thats the only real way to play it wrong

[grizzled lotus]

I'm using conveyor belts for the first time. Is it possible to the belt go in at the top part and out the bottom part?

[placid stirrup]

Do you mean splitters/mergers? If so, vertical lifts are what you're looking for.

[languid lance]

how do I build straight pipes

https://imgur.com/a/FKCjJtJ

[placid stirrup]

'r' to switch build modes by default

[languid lance]

none of the modes help me get it straight

[grizzled lotus]

I meant the lifts

when I try to build them the exit is always at the top, or I end up building it underground

[languid lance]

I want the pipes to be simply straight, no curve, no slopes, just straight

[placid stirrup]

I think that new feature in 1.1 is unlockable in the MAM

[languid lance]

it looks like the only way is to have foundations?

and then maybe delete them?

[placid stirrup]

You can also hold Ctrl to snap them straight

[languid lance]

it wont do that eiterh

either

[placid stirrup]

Much more difficult without foundations, yes

[grizzled lotus]

ok, I'm a step closer. Pressing R activates reverse mode

but now I can't change where the bottom part faces

got it!

I'm building steel beams and pipes and this is actually the first time I've used the lifts

didn't know it was useful for tight turns and bends

[gritty marsh]

conveyer lifts are very useful

[languid lance]

the game is great but building stuff properly is such a goddamn nuisance

[placid stirrup]

I'm just waiting for the train-related crashes on DS to be patched 😔

[placid stirrup]

1.1 improves a few of the headaches but yeah there's definitely some quirks with placing detailed things the way you want. You get used to them though

[languid lance]

well, lacing a water extractor leads to a crooked pipe coming out of it by default

what the fuck is up with that

[gritty marsh]

theres no center point on a water extractor

its not an odd center point with the grid thats used is a better way to put it

[leaden turret]

ah, global build grid = pants issue?

[gritty marsh]

doesnt really have to do with global build grid

[placid stirrup]

Place a junction on a foundation that's on the water and hold Ctrl to snap the extractor to the junction 🙂

[languid lance]

just gimme various parts, 90° curve that I can rotate how I want, spirals for conveyer belts, just make parts in addition to free build

[jade apex]

are fluid tank trains still kinda meh?

[languid lance]

but the way this works now is just awful implementation
despite the great QoL this has, not including something as simple as pre-built parts? puzzling

[shrewd palm]

upon further inspection i believe i am going to end up having to pave over the entire rocky desert

[gritty marsh]

good luck

[jade apex]

mfs really see desert and go 'we need a 5 lane highway here'

[shrewd palm]

this nuclear plant is not small at all

[leaden turret]

why does your display name admit yourself to be someone who touches where dogs pee?

[placid stirrup]

Afaik gases get a 1:4 improvement when delivered by train but fluids have a reduction in efficiency

[jade apex]

hmm

[shrewd palm]

ive got a couple ideas for what to do with the water extractors and reactors but they might not work

[languid lance]

the fact that you cannot change the planet, with the technology that is being given by the company/game, is another mind-boggling thing. just gimme "credits" or other grindy ways, after a while to raise or lower ground, to remove rocks, etc.

[shrewd palm]

?
supposed to be a joke about how i never touch grass because all i do is play video games\

[jade apex]

ngl i might just ignore this advice and do it anyway because i dont really want to process stuff on site cuz it seems kinda meh

[placid stirrup]

If only there was 2km of vertical space to work with

[humble plank]

I use trains to deliver nitric acid to my power plant for rocket fuel in my current play-through, its always worked quite well for me...

[shrewd palm]

i could go vertical but i dont think it would look as good

[leaden turret]

is reference to running joke I make whenever someone says "touch grass" I remind them that's where dogs pee

[shrewd palm]

ahh

[jade apex]

mm actually no i will cuz i have sulfur here actually

gonna make a weapons factory doodad place

[placid stirrup]

That's why I elect to stay in my padded white room with my arms tied by long sleeves

[gritty marsh]

theres the ability to make blueprints later in the game, the first blueprint designer is unlocked once you get to steel

[placid stirrup]

Doesn't affect me so do whatever you want!

[burnt hound]

why did every channel become invisable to me when i tabbed back in

[languid lance]

do you make blue prints for special parts like a curve or sprial ?

[shrewd palm]

just my opinion but i feel like make big factories to do indivdual items would be a logistical nightmare

[languid lance]

you'd need to make a dozen of them to be able to have each one ready for different sitautions

[shrewd palm]

much harder than just belting/piping everything you need to one spot and then working from there

[gritty marsh]

if you want a flat area just build it, concrete is pretty easy to get a lot of

[jade apex]

logistical nightmares is where i live :D

[shrewd palm]

in that case go for it!

[jade apex]

i quite enjoy doing the logistics game so ive got the trains setup for my aluminium and stuff. but ive been looking at the frankly very messy production map and still trying to figure out whats best xd

[shrewd palm]

im praying ive left enough cateroum in good spots for this

[jade apex]

what areyou building?

[shrewd palm]

i need 6k and im already using at least 1 pure node

[gritty marsh]

I dont use blueprints much, there are different build modes that are able to make what you want significantly easier to do, Im not sure what you mean by spiral though

[shrewd palm]

630GW nuclear plant

[languid lance]

the issue with flat plains though is you need to go up like 20 meters to have a flat plane that is spanning across at least half of the starting area, which makes it look super ugly

[jade apex]

:o

[shrewd palm]

going to be great

[shrewd palm]

building around the terrain looks better in the end and also has a bit of a fun challenge when building the factory

[gritty marsh]

^

[languid lance]

a spiral to go up a certain slope for example, instead of the vertical elevator conveyer belts
its not as efficient, but might look cool for example

or might just fit better for a certain part of the map you are currently in

[gritty marsh]

all conveyer spirals do is remind me of when lifts werent in the game

[languid lance]

so in essence what I'd like to have is:
rollercoaster tycoon building mode

[shrewd palm]

oh yeah circles/spirals in this game are notoriously difficult to pull off well because of how the game works

[languid lance]

for rollercoasters i mean

[shrewd palm]

i wish they were easier but imo roundness doesnt really fit into the aesthetic that well

[gritty marsh]

oh you and natro would you get along so well

[languid lance]

well its not just doing some special stuff

just doing a super tight 90° curve for pipes or conveyerbelts would almost be sufficient for me

right now I need to estimate and guess where to put 2 support so it ends up as a proper close 90° bend

[shrewd palm]

introducing: straight build mode and (if needed) flex splines mod

[languid lance]

trial and error it a few times with different spots or terrain

[languid lance]

doesnt work with pipes

[shrewd palm]

ahh

[languid lance]

or sometimes at least

[shrewd palm]

they're adding it in 1.1 which hopefully isnt too far off

[languid lance]

there's always cases where it does not want to work

[gritty marsh]

it doesnt seem like it would be too far off, ive been playing in experimental for about a month now

and i havent had too many issues

[placid stirrup]

The new build modes work in 1.1 really well from the testing I've done so far

[shrewd palm]

if you're building on foundations, (i think) its 2 snaps and a 90 degree turn for the pipes to be 90 degrees

[gritty marsh]

^

its 2 snaps for conveyers as well

at least on default build mode

[placid stirrup]

Was that the spammer?

[gritty marsh]

a different one

[shrewd palm]

i just use straight mode for belts and dont pay attention for pipes lmao

[gritty marsh]

straight belts funnily enough have a different 90 degree point

and its actually not as tight as default

straights are 3 snaps away default is 2

[placid stirrup]

Literally unplayable game

[languid lance]

im trying to build 9 coal plants and 3 water extractors and I'm now sitting for way too long already to get the 3 initial pipes (coming out of the extractors) to be parallel and going all parallel to the platform having my power plants
it drives me absolutely insane how unintuitive the building is

which leads to another easy fix:

just let me build multiple pipes at once automatically being parallel

[shrewd palm]

you can press "H" to lock things in place, and then adjust them with the arrow keys and scroll wheel. i cant remember if this is vanilla or not but left ctrl lets you do fine adjustments. building on foundations makes lining things up 1000x easier

also with water extractors you can get a foundation like 2m (i think thats the minimum) under the water so that you can snap them

[languid lance]

but foundations are ugly

[placid stirrup]

Vanilla does have half nudge, yes

[languid lance]

im considering just not playing anymore tbh

would be a waste of money but the building is so annoying for some of the things

[placid stirrup]

Not using them induces many headaches, choose your poison in this case I suppose ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[shrewd palm]

when you bury them in buildings you barely notice them

[languid lance]

i get that bulding your factory is the fun part in the game, its what the game is about, build more and more complex factories

but designing it should be the core, not the finnicky crappy controls for building it

honestly, currently building the stuff takes sooooo much more time than thinking it up and that should not be the case

[gritty marsh]

yeah its gonna be that way lmao, im on day 6 of working on a nuclear power plant

[languid lance]

and another big issue for me is having a fixed map rather than randomly generated

[shrewd palm]

once you get going with blueprints that becomes a lot better, and figuring out exactly where to put everything and how to connect them as you build is like half the planning

[leaden turret]

map that looks pretty vs. map that is less pretty

[gritty marsh]

yeah

[languid lance]

kills the "I'd like to try that again fresh"
now you are more like "ok I'll just do it all from scratch in this savefile but now I first need to spend 10 minutes destroying everything first"

[shrewd palm]

you can use calculators to get massive factories planned out in a couple minutes

[shrewd palm]

you're going all the way to fisconium right?

[gritty marsh]

and also resource distribution is so much better on a fixed map than random

[leaden turret]

you'd have to spend the first 10 minutes destroying everything either way, moot point

[gritty marsh]

yes, Im still moving resources around lol

[shrewd palm]

ahh

do you know how much power you're gonna be making?

[placid stirrup]

At least 7, if I had to guess

[shrewd palm]

thats a pretty good guess

[gritty marsh]

theres so much variation in ways to do things and challenges you can set for yourself that its not really killing the try again fresh

[gritty marsh]

around 1.33TW

[shrewd palm]

sweet

not going to have any resources leftover to use it lmao

[gritty marsh]

actually I will, the resource im using the highest percentage of is quartz at around 9k, but I can turn caterium into quartz if i really need to get more

[shrewd palm]

good lord

what is all the quartz being used for

[gritty marsh]

silica

[shrewd palm]

ahh

[gritty marsh]

mostly for aluminum

[placid stirrup]

Silica is rough with there not being a great alt to increase its production

[shrewd palm]

i just use sloppy alumina

silica seems like too much of a hassle

[gritty marsh]

interestingly because trains are awesome Im not using a whole lot of quartz nodes

[placid stirrup]

Less aluminum production at the end is the trade-off there, naturally

[languid lance]

agreed but then, while being a prebuilt map, it doesn't have the QoL features for building, the most essential part in the game
modes are good, but don't work properly and should still give you more options on how to place stuff exactly as you'd like it

[hasty frigate]

yikes. Seems like the hard way to do it

[shrewd palm]

dont really mind. 12k is more than enough for pretty much everything

[languid lance]

its a trade-off with other games

not sure which I like more, this or Dyson Sphere Program

[placid stirrup]

6k is more than enough 🙃

[shrewd palm]

gotta get the sink points

[gritty marsh]

Im using sloppy alumina as well

[rancid turret]

sloppy alumina and pure ingot, my beloved

you lose 10% of your aluminium ingot potential but you save on importing quartz

[gritty marsh]

wait

wtf I always thought that the default aluminum gave more....

oh my god im actually a dumbass

[rancid turret]

default does give you more

[gritty marsh]

wait im so confused

because pure aluminum requires less bauxite

for

[placid stirrup]

It does. The various alts increase or decrease output at the trade-off off fewer/more resources in

Someone did an analysis here a while back

[gritty marsh]

math is not mathing

oh wait

I didnt reconnect everything in my production plan

thats why my brain broke

[rancid turret]

lmao

[gritty marsh]

ok yeah almost 8k bauxite using pure ingots

it was at 4.5k when i forgot to connect the ficsite stuff to it

[rancid turret]

sloppy/pure is so close to the default recipes while cutting out a whole ass extra resource

[visual cloud]

alguem pra jogar um satis comigo??????

[placid stirrup]

English only server, #1201555265942724758 to play with others. Obrigado

[placid stirrup]

Iirc that gets you 80% aluminum ingots compared to what the defaults would give you.

[gritty marsh]

yeah, I could make that work, id have to get a 3rd station for bauxite though

[gritty marsh]

its 75% unless i forgot how math works again

[placid stirrup]

Ok nice, it was a while ago that I ran through the numbers

[gritty marsh]

whyzenman posted in #screenshots some combinations for aluminum

honestly, I might use the extra 2k bauxite and coal just because it saves 4k quartz and 6k limestone which makes my life easier

[placid stirrup]

If only those had the recipe names on them 😏

[gritty marsh]

@whoevermadesatisfactorymodeler

[ocean frost]

The numbers for Petro coke aluminium and sloppy were made in heaven itself

[visual cloud]

alguem brazil aqui?

[left totem]

not you again

[visual cloud]

kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

sai fora guria desporza do paizao

[dawn idol]

@rancid turret what calculator or wtf is that

[left totem]

I still don't know brazillian portuguese

[rancid turret]

satisfactory modeller

[visual cloud]

graças a deus que contiue assim

[placid stirrup]

Somente em inglês
#rules

[left totem]

AKA the best.

[visual cloud]

e como acho de outros idiomas?

[dawn idol]

thats awesome 😮

[rancid turret]

if default is 100 ingots, sloppy/pure is 90

[rancid turret]

is free!

[dawn idol]

@rancid turret does it happen to work with satifactory mods? like can you make custom recipys by chance

[rancid turret]

alas no

[dawn idol]

😭

[placid stirrup]

Não sei, desculpe

[dawn idol]

I may have started up a satifactory+ since it got updated

but I cant find a calculator that works for it....

having a calc would be so helpful lmao

[cyan garnet]

Basically yeah, any fuel sitting in the drone port will create radiation. IMHO once you start going nuclear you should just plan to produce 5 iodine filters per minute and send them to dimensional depot. That is the max consumption rate of filters at the highest level of radiation

So you could carry uranium in your pocket indefinitely as long as you periodically restock filters from dimensional depot into your inventory from time to time

[left totem]

but then isn't having the radiation warning and the sound annoying ?

[digital depot]

thats actually one of the best advises in regard of nuclear seen so far 😄

[cyan garnet]

Yes. You get used to it

[gritty marsh]

yeah

[placid stirrup]

Lmao, "life is suffering" ahh answer

[gritty marsh]

I need to start producing filters soon because im about to start taking uranium to my nuclear power plant

[cyan garnet]

If you don’t like that plan, you could put one single plutonium rod in the drone port and that will fuel it for ~100 trips

[azure swan]

I only have 1 packaged turbo fuel/m on my production line going to DD (for my jetpack). I'm thinking I build the drone port that I plan on using plut rods and just feed it a stack of packaged turbo fuel by hand and belt in the plut rods.

[split badger]

why does the ficsit shop say everything is a schematic?

(including parts)

[azure swan]

I'm planning on this being an "exclusion zone" out in EBF anyways so perhaps I don't care if it gets red hot.

[cyan garnet]

You could kickstart your drones with a different fuel until you’ve got the plutonium rods going, yeah

You can remove and replace the fuel in the buffer in a drone port

[gritty marsh]

Im building my nuclear plant over the water and completely processing everything there and flying uranium in so I dont have to worry about radiation anywhere on the map apart from where yk theres already uranium

[azure swan]

That's excatly what I"m describing. Just planning out fueling the drone that carries the uranium

[cyan garnet]

Iodine filters aren’t too bad, as long as you have a means to get aluminum casings, and have unlocked the polyester fabric alt recipe

[gritty marsh]

ah, Im going all the way to ficsonium so im planning to make ionized rocket fuel for the drones

[split badger]

Does mining Uranium make the spot not radioactive anymore?

[gritty marsh]

yeah I could make them on site if i really wanted to

[cyan garnet]

Uranium nodes are permanently radioactive

Only the small deposits can be hand-mined and cleared out

[gritty marsh]

I love mining the uranium deposits early game and just deleting the uranium before it kills me

[azure swan]

It is good sport.

There are a couple of mercer spheres hiding in uranium nodes so you have to do that to get them out

[gritty marsh]

only died once and thats because of an autosave lagging my game

yeah thats the main reason i ended up doing it

[split badger]

having them in your inventory causes radiation too?

[azure swan]

Big time. You're hugging the radiation

[gritty marsh]

yes uranium is radioactive no matter where it is

[placid stirrup]

Eating them causes radiation too

• sent from my EKG machine

[gritty marsh]

I love the 20 billion calories uranium has

[placid stirrup]

Fr, like I was just trying to bulk. Don't make my mistake, kids.

[gentle pendant]

I don't think the cyber wagon is good taste. It's obviously mocking the cybertruck. It's a weird thing to put down in one of my all time favorite game. I'd say keep the game entirely free of politics

[silent anchor]

Life hack, eating just one piece will last you for the rest of your life.

[gritty marsh]

always remember if your jetpack runs out of fuel you have the rest of your life to figure out how youre refueling it

[dawn idol]

?

[placid stirrup]

Yeah, joking about the cyber truck is not alright it's all left

[dawn idol]

news flash all games are political in one shape or another, even satifactory lol

[split badger]

you're not talking about the ugly car are you? 😰

[dawn idol]

u mean the cybertruck?

😉

[zenith pecan]

It even has the cracked windows 🤣

[split badger]

yes but it looks more like a cyberdumpster to me

on wheels

[dawn idol]

yeah it does

[turbid ledge]

I like the hyundai electric car concept that looks like a older model car

[placid stirrup]

Ioniq? Yeah they keep getting better each model, too

[turbid ledge]

No not that

It’s something called the heritage series

[dawn idol]

mann I want my hover jetpack so badly

[gentle pendant]

it just seems like coffeestain wouldn't want to come down on this very specific issue seeing there's mass vandalism afoot

[dawn idol]

I think im close 😭 but I need to make hmf

*hmf factory

[gritty marsh]

theres a bunch of random things im not even making, im just pulling them off the production line into a storage than DD and calling it a day

if its not critical production i can syphon a little

[silent anchor]

It's not on wheels it's on squares.

[dawn idol]

you think the game that shows very plainly what can go wrong with capitalism is not political in any way?

[placid stirrup]

Did someone say HMF factory?
#screenshots message

[silent anchor]

I don't really get how making fun of a car is politic anyway. Just laugh at the joke or don't.

[dawn idol]

lol

[gritty marsh]

how many a minute

[placid stirrup]

I think 16?

[gritty marsh]

rookie numbers

I had an HMF factory that made 60 a minute

.8 though

[dawn idol]

I think ima make a hmf only make like 10/min lol

[rancid turret]

i do like when the thing looks like the thing what it is

[placid stirrup]

Damn, didn't know you had a huge wang, my bad

[gentle pendant]

well, i said my 2 cents

[rancid turret]

my factory makes 8 HMF and 4 FMF

[gritty marsh]

tahts always fun

[gritty marsh]

yeah i think atm Im making like 5hmf and 3fmf

[dawn idol]

my brain is lagging fmf?

[gritty marsh]

fused modular frame

[dawn idol]

ohhh yeah

[rancid turret]

heavy modular frame with aluminium and nitrogen

[gritty marsh]

I dont think i use fuel on mine

gotta love alts

[rancid turret]

i had a brain fart. fuel is alt

[gritty marsh]

yeah

oh im making 6FMF and min and 6HMF a minute

slooped FMF though

cause pressure conversion cubes ig

[rancid turret]

i named my copper powder train Luigi because he make-a the pasta

[dawn idol]

lol

how bad is your belts

[placid stirrup]

Woah why are you getting all political in this totally non-political game!?!!?!??!?

[rancid turret]

oh i only intend on making one nuclear pasta a minute

[dawn idol]

😡 only 1??

how dare theee

[rancid turret]

yeah, it'll finish phase 4 in like an hour, then it'll be another 16 hours before phase 5 finishes and uh. I'm gonna be in phase 5 longer than that

at the most, I would want to make 4 nuclear pasta a minute but that would mean expanding my HMF and iunwanna

[gritty marsh]

Im going to be syphoning nuclear pasta from my nuclear power plant and hoping nothing goes wrong

I really could if i wanted to, its gonna be a little before ficsonium rods start going

20/min finished phase 5 in about an hour

definitely gonna be longer than an hour before ficsonium starts going

past me does a really god job at fucking up stuff for future me but future me does a great job at making the most of it

[rancid turret]

i spend way too long on the aesthetics

[gritty marsh]

Im gonna have a fun time with aesthetics for my nuclear power plant

the only reactors that are getting decorated though are the ficsonium reactors

the other 175 can live in the basement

[rancid turret]

#screenshots message this is my HMF / FMF factory

[digital depot]

#screenshots message

how to set that the Trains stays in station till fully empty?

[gritty marsh]

Im not taking enough resources to my nuclear power plant apparently

[vague shore]

hi

[hoary grove]

hi

[digital depot]

hi both 😄

[gritty marsh]

does anyone know how the item per minute calculation on the trains works? i assume its an average but is it of all the unloads/loads at the station or is it the average of the last X amount of unload/loads

[rapid wyvern]

What’s better, turbo fuel, or rocket fuel?

[jaunty jewel]

in terms of consumption turbofuel is 7.5 rocket fuel is 4.166 (iirc) per min

[unkempt blade]

biofuel is the best, it is known

[digital depot]

s4,167 but yeah 0,01 dosnt matter ^^

[turbid ledge]

If i have manufacturer that is boosted 250 clock speed how many reactors could i power?

Making uranium fuel rods

[digital depot]

if you go RF with Alt´s you can use 3 Nodes 1800 Oil turning to 300GW Power with 500 200% Gens running ,... All resources are arround ,..

[placid stirrup]

(x*2.5)/y where y is input to reactor/min and x is output of manufacturer/min

[reef basin]

no, 4.16666666666 repeating

[reef basin]

that depends what do you mean by better 🙂

[sharp trellis]

so i thought i can find some circuit boards before rushing to phase 2/ tier 5 for the amplifier mam upgrade, here i am after 25 fucking hard drives

i finally found it, i guess it was worth it

[reef basin]

I saw the screenshot, but game rounds the values it shows to you. In reality it's 4.166666 repeating

[rapid wyvern]

Thanks

[dawn idol]

wait did Bolted Iron Plate alternate get nerfed?

[reef basin]

no?

[dawn idol]

I swear it used to be better then just a save on space

[reef basin]

no, never

well, depends on what you mean by "better"

[dawn idol]

oh no

[reef basin]

but it wasn't changed for a long time

[split prairie]

im having a problem with water on a 8 coal plant design, they need 3 water pumps to feed them, i had a 4th at 20% just to be sure but did put it all at 100% since i was going away and didnt want to risk power outage

but even at 4 water pumps the last two coal plants are lacking water

what to do?

[dawn idol]

I mean it consumes more screws in exchange for it saving the space of 2 assemblers lol

[reef basin]

yeah, that's the tradeoff

[dawn idol]

your having thoughput issues, you need a 2nd pipe

and have half of the water go into the other pipe

[dawn idol]

bruh im so dumb lol

[dawn idol]

Adhered Iron Plate kinda seems like just the best lmao

[reef basin]

there's no "best"

there's just "recipe you like the most"

[dawn idol]

best on eff

[reef basin]

what kind of efficiency are we talking? 🙂

[junior laurel]

[split prairie]

if i connect a pipe on the same joint and wrap around and connect it to the other side fixes it? or do i need to bring a separate second pipe from the water pumps?

[dawn idol]

u might should have a a valve to make it do 50 50 imo but your way should work?

maybe? might have some issues

[reef basin]

no, never use valves

!wikisearch cg

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[reef basin]

here's some good example layouts

[split prairie]

i dont think i have valve tech

[dawn idol]

valve for just making sure flow does not go weirdg

[reef basin]

yeah, don't do that

[dawn idol]

it should be fine without

[split prairie]

i tried that and seems to just make the problem go elsewhere

[dawn idol]

tbh I have done it that way for years and never had a issue lol

[reef basin]

in most cases they either do nothing or hurt your production

so no reason to use them

[dawn idol]

you might be able to use a pump on both sides? idk about that though

[dawn idol]

in this one specific case I use them and they help me XD

fair enough tho

[reef basin]

that usually means that there's a problem elsewhere and valves just hide that problem or move it elsewhere. Still not recommended to use valves 😉

[split prairie]

mine is similar to 1st example, theyre all connect to one single pipe. i dont understand what i should exactly change

[dawn idol]

easiest thing to do tho is to have 4 but and do 2 pipes of 2 water gens

[reef basin]

do they connect in different places, rather than on one side?
did you prefill the pipe?

[dawn idol]

in fact its more power eff if u turn down your clock speed

[split prairie]

theres 4 water pipes all in the same place pushing the water all in the same pipe, theres a fluid buffer too right near them

[dawn idol]

if u want to have a 4th for buffer, just do 2 lanes of 2

[reef basin]

remove the buffer

[split prairie]

yes i disabled some coal plants and waited for all of them to be filled and then turned it back on, but like 1h later the problem came back

[reef basin]

yeah remove the buffer and prefill them, should work

if not, share some images in #1038092680493801533

[split prairie]

after some minutes the last one or two start to struggle to have the pipe filled and eventually starts dropping more and more, my guess is in like 30 minutes or so it will be lacking water

only first two seem to be able to keep 80%+ water in pipe

[dawn idol]

💀 wait I need 32 assemblers of concrete for 10hmf

[split prairie]

yeah, last one already almost out of water

[dawn idol]

wtfff

[reef basin]

post screenshots in #1038092680493801533

[split prairie]

what should i put in the screenshot?

[reef basin]

the setup you have built

[shrewd palm]

a radiation suit that runs off electricity (kind of like the hoverpack) would be cool

[dawn idol]

holy...... oil alternates to make other stuff is really effective holy wow

like with rubber/plastic/etc

interesting

[split prairie]

posted

[wet shoal]

No day can pass without the inevitable valve discussion.

[shrewd palm]

valved are underrated and needlessly hated

[dawn idol]

thats a daily discussion?

lmaooo

[wet shoal]

Yeah. they go hard on that.

[dawn idol]

ops

[wet shoal]

Idk i have figured usecases for valves out, just to turn certain pipes into monodirectional flow segments.

Which is good against sloshing.

[dawn idol]

yeah pretty much what I use them for

[wet shoal]

But valves alone cannot fix anything really wrong.

And if you do everything else right (not always possible thanks to geographic circumstances or your fucked up layout)
there is no need for valves.

They dont mind pumps tho, which is weird, since pumps are just valves themselves in a way.

In a way. Emphasis.

[mild terrace]

Why aren't my freight train loaders not inputting?

https://imgur.com/oUa0nsr

[reef basin]

why post on imgur instead of posting to like #1038092680493801533

[mild terrace]

Cause bro's an idiot

[rancid torrent]

How do I bring up the to-do list? I've never had this problem before but clicking in the area where the to do list is normally does nothing, adding objects to the to do list using plus/minus does nothing. I'm baffled.

[latent prawn]

try it with your inventory open

[rancid torrent]

I tried with both my inventory and crafting menu

It's like it's invisible and I can't see it

[latent prawn]

sometimes the key modifiers can get stuck. when that happens, hitting escape to get into the game's main menu i find fixes it

[rancid torrent]

I restarted the game and it didn't change it.

I just exited to the main menu then went back into the game, no change

I heavily rely on that thing and now that it's missing, I don't know what to have in my inventory lol

[eager oar]

Is your train loaders set to LOAD vs UNLOAD?

[mild terrace]

It’s fixed, guess who put the train station backwards?

[eager oar]

OH

It happens to the best of us

[leaden ether]

Also I learned today, when your train comes into the station, the engine stops at the station platform and the loading platform must then be behind it so the cargo car stops on it at the same time. I managed to do it the other way around the first time and the train stops with the cargo car out on empty track, sees nothing to load I guess and takes off even though the loading platform and schedule were otherwise setup correctly.

[eager oar]

Yeah trains can be quite "funny" at times

[rapid wyvern]

Do you need pumps for a gas? Such as nitrogen?

[reef basin]

not for headlift purposes

[zenith pecan]

Not needing pumps is the only reason I got away with a half kilometre tall power station burning rocket fuel without a too complex mess.

[rapid wyvern]

Wdym? Would you need them for something else?

[reef basin]

not need, but some players use them for some purposes 🤷

[rapid wyvern]

So it’s optional and has no effect?

[reef basin]

in most cases yes. You don't need to worry about the special cases now

[feral walrus]

Is there a cheat sheet to shortcuts that make your life easier? I’m brand new to the game

[azure swan]

Is it just me or does the "invert mouse" setting not carry over to any of the third person situations (hypertube, train)? This is killing me.

JK. It carrys over to hypertube, just not trains

[split prairie]

why do tractors go crazy if u ride them while autopilot is enabled?

[placid stirrup]

Shortcuts? You can see key binds in your settings. They also pop up for all interfaces.

[tranquil ibex]

it sounds like they can't actually follow the route they are set up in, when that happens, vehicles tend to do really weird manoeuvrers to try and go back to the path, but most of the time they can't recover

[prisma thicket]

What's the "best" (read easiest to produce) alt recipe for heavy modular frames? Need to start mass producing them for Space Elevator parts

[split prairie]

weirdly even when theyre on their route and i just jump in, cause im going that way, they start driving very fast into the walls

[feral walrus]

No I meant, there are options to see what’s in a container without opening it, I also saw on a video the ability to straighten or 90 degree a belt, someone even created their own blueprint? I’m not sure if that is a shortcut

[wet shoal]

Bolted frames in my optinion.

Since steelbeams are very inexpensive, and screws from beams exist,
you can get them quite cheap. Early you have still cast screws, which also reduces machinecount considerably.

[latent prawn]

bolted frame is the fastest (least machines). default with adhered plate, coated plate and steel rod is the most resource efficient. steeled frame isn't very good for mass production, but before you get adhered plate in the oil tier, leveraging iron & copper alloy with stitched plate and steeled frame produces a good amount of frames with early tech

[prisma thicket]

Ok, that's for Modular frames, which is better for Heavy Modular Frames? Encased or Flexible?

[latent prawn]

heavy encased frame wins by every metric

[prisma thicket]

Gotcha, thanks

[latent prawn]

it reduces the number of mf's needed per frame which is such a savings that it eclipses all other consideration

[prisma thicket]

Fair enough lol thanks for the info

[boreal musk]

flexible frame reduce the overall size of your factory

[latent prawn]

yeah, you get to use a few less manf's with flex frame, but you have to make more steel

[prisma thicket]

Not too worried about size, I'm building an entirely separate factory just for the Heavy frames.

[boreal musk]

then like moonchild said, heavy encased alt is your best bet

[latent prawn]

on top of that, the concrete for both recipes is considerable and rubber concrete starts looking really good. i'd rather have that rubber just go to concrete instead of concrete and hmf's

[prisma thicket]

I didn't even know rubber concrete was a thing, will have to find more hard drives to try for that. Thankfully I already have encased frames

[latent prawn]

yeah, it make 9 concrete from 10 limestone+2 rubber

[boreal musk]

wet concrete is also a choice since its used for both hmf and encased beam, and also for molded pipes

[latent prawn]

yeah, especially when you use molded pipe, the concrete usage goes WAY up

[prisma thicket]

Well I need more power, so getting a rubber line up and using the oil residue for fuel gens seems like a safe start. So time to look for an oil patch with lots of Iron and Limestone nearby xD

[latent prawn]

until you get to phase 4 & 5 hmf production can be very small

i honestly just set up a manufacturer to hand feed until i have mk5 belts

[boreal musk]

1 manufacturer of hmf should last you long enough for personal uses

[prisma thicket]

I'm working on completing phase 3, I have all milstones unlocked up to tier 6

[latent prawn]

yeah, phase 3, for the elevator you only need 50 or 100 hmf's for the ACU's

[boreal musk]

use sloop, makes handfeeding elevator parts easier

[latent prawn]

zactly

[prisma thicket]

But then you need more ACU's for later components right? So I'm making sure I have things automated so I can have a storage/sink line of each elevator part.

[latent prawn]

correct

it kind of is up to you how you want to do it

nothing wrong with automating everything and it does front-load a lot of effort down the road, but often times if you're looking forward to what else you want to do, you end up undershooting what you need down the road.

i think after your first playthrough, the tendency is to rush future tech unlocks

[boreal musk]

if you know what youre doing, u can practically reach phase 3 in under 10hrs

[prisma thicket]

Yah, I'm nowhere near that familiar with things lol I'm 60 hours into this save already xD

[turbid ledge]

I wish i could automate portable miners ahhhhhh

[boreal musk]

you can

theres an alt for it, but you need at least steel unlocked

[turbid ledge]

Got it

Ive just been handcrafting everything with them

Ive gone insane

[rich ivy]

so

planning out my final build

my red forest megafactory

i presume ill need to be making like, a fuckton of ficsite trigons?

[boreal musk]

not really, unless youre planning to make a lot of quantum processor or bio sculptor

[rich ivy]

well\

how many sculptors /m does 3 ADSs/m make

6 right?

[cyan garnet]

Pro tip, you don’t need very many neural quantum processors. 256 for the bio sculptors, 100 for the mk3 blueprint milestone unlock, and 10 for the mk3 blueprinter itself

[rich ivy]

im not planning on using mk3 blueprints

sooo

[rich ivy]

another factor

i AM doing a ficsonium setup as well

hoooooooly shit

with how much plutonium waste im making thats 16 ficsonium rods per minute

honestly i might just sink most of them

sooooooo

i originally planned like, maybe 400 per minute or something

nah, 1200 is probably my best bet and even then i feel like that would be pushing it

[turbid ledge]

If i build two radar towers in one area does it make weak signals stronger? Or does that not change

[cyan garnet]

The signal is based on the radius from where the tower is placed

[latent prawn]

'weak signals' are the number of crash pods in the signal tower's coverage area

[eager oar]

That's cool. I also didn't know that was a thing. I currently have the alternate fine concrete recipe only and I am using the silica I make from aluminum production for that.

[latent prawn]

haha, that recipe is one of the worst recipes in the game 😛

[eager oar]

Fair

But it's the only one I got

[latent prawn]

if it is eating your byproduct +1 though

[eager oar]

But I am not really using silica for much else except windows

I don't have many alts unlocked but I managed to get a few good ones

[latent prawn]

'for now'

[eager oar]

Yeah

I just gotta do some more hard drive hunting

Gotta catch 'em all so to speak

[latent prawn]

yeah, i like emptying the recipe pool at each tech unlock to make the chances of getting what i want greater

[eager oar]

Emptying the recipe pool?

Oh like researching all the recipes you can?

[turbid ledge]

I like wet concrete cause my aluminum production just seems to have water coming from everywhere

[eager oar]

Heh

[turbid ledge]

I also kinda just use it for coolant in my reactors

[eager oar]

The more I unlock new recipes, the more I will build new factories all over the map and connect them with trains for days

I actually tore down my old Aluminum factory based in the Rocky Desert to build a better factory

[turbid ledge]

I forgot trains existed

[eager oar]

Now I am using blueprints like crazy

I really like trains

Instead of having to run conveyor belts for many kilometers

Otherwise I have to use drones I suppose

Trains also allow fluid and gas transport versus a drone requiring it to be packaged I believe

[turbid ledge]

I use conveyor belts so i can disturb the local wildlife with highways of belts

[eager oar]

Disturb? I dunno man, more like "enhance" their way of life

What wildlife can't enjoy a conveyor wall?

[turbid ledge]

My pipe lines are also funny

Im pretty sure i have like a nordstream pipeline from the desert to starter area

[eager oar]

Holy heck

Truly an inspiration to the oil industry

[cyan garnet]

Nitrogen compresses at a ratio of 4:1 which makes it ideal for drone transport

[eager oar]

Hmm

I did not know that.... but that is awesome knowledge. Thank you 🙂

[cyan garnet]

Plus the drones can handle the empty tank return in a closed loop

[turbid ledge]

Right now i have one water pipeline three oil pipelines one nitrogen pipeline

[eager oar]

Yeah I was just about to ask that.

[cyan garnet]

Seed it with enough empty tanks to start with and it can self sustain

My current playthrough has three different nitrogen supply depots all done w drones

[prisma thicket]

Is there any way in game to see what alt recipes you have unlocked?

[turbid ledge]

Press O then go to reciprs

[prisma thicket]

Thank you

[eager oar]

Sweet! I am totally doing this.

[turbid ledge]

Im currently in the process of making a new jersey sized parking lot

I must hide the abominations underneath

[eager oar]

Heh

I am currently in the process of building a decent sized cityscape in the Rocky Desert

This time I use blueprints for the roads and factory foundations

I also built a highway going from the Grassy Fields (my starting point) to the Rocky Desert

Soon enough I will get used to using blueprints for my actual factories

[turbid ledge]

Look in screenshots it doesn’t look horrible at all

[eager oar]

I found it 🙂

[turbid ledge]

Found what

[eager oar]

The power storage transformer build

I forwarded the link into design-and-architecture

[turbid ledge]

Im not going up lol.

[eager oar]

That's fine

It's your game lol. You play however you want to

[turbid ledge]

I will flatten this island and make anything higher then my flooring into zoos for me to laugh at the wildlife

[eager oar]

LOL that's the spirit!

[turbid ledge]

Preferably the. Spiders.

I hate the spiders with a passion

[eager oar]

HAHA yeah... have those little buggers running around in the catacombs of your factories 😉

I also really dislike spiders.... They make barely any noise until it's almost too late

[turbid ledge]

There faces are also horrifying so

[eager oar]

Agreed

[turbid ledge]

If you can call it a “face”

[eager oar]

And the big ones jump and will literally chase you down half a map away which I found out while soaring using my parachute

They are quite vindictive

[turbid ledge]

I honestly think they are a invasive species to the ecosystem

[eager oar]

They fight hogs and spitters too

I think the spiders secretly hate everyone and everything that isn't them

[turbid ledge]

I think they were originally bugs but something evolved them to that similar to how some hogs are evolved to store radiation

[eager oar]

Quite possible

[turbid ledge]

Becuase they dont exactly look like an animal

I mean even actual spiders in real life look less scary then them

Except tarantulas

I will never not hate those things

[eager oar]

HEH yeah no kidding

I also don't like other spiders that we have around here... huntsman... wolf spiders and brown recluses

[turbid ledge]

Ive seen a wolf spider a singular tarantula when i was like six and a bunch of my goats the daddy long legs

I cant hate daddy long legs

They just chill in corners kill the flys in a house then dont bother you

They are my personal fly murderers

[eager oar]

Yeah for sure

I mean, spiders in general are cool when they just hunt bugs for you inside your house

That being said, if I get bitten by one, and it leads to something serious, I would prefer to avoid that.

Anyways, I'm off topic

On the topic of Stingers in the game though, I avoid going into caves for the most part because they freak me out like heck

I will eventually toughen up though but for now I am just enjoying building my new rebuilt mini city in the Rocky Desert

[turbid ledge]

I simply just use explorers to launch them at mach speeds

Yes your honor i am exploiting the fact animals wont attack vehicles

[eager oar]

Unfortunately some caves are too small for an Explorer to fit

[turbid ledge]

This is true however this is why we have the gift to man

Dynamite

And turbofuel rounds

I wish i could buy the nuclear variant on the shop

[eager oar]

Yup, those are all very viable and delicious 😋

[prisma thicket]

Anyone else find the sound of a fuel generator running oddly satisfying?

[green fiber]

I prefer coal gens sound. Fuel gens i turned their volume down as they are actually somewhat noisy

[prisma thicket]

Oh they are definitely noisy, but if you're not right near them it's not terrible. I dunno, maybe it's because it remind me of driving a big truck or forklift, tickles that part of my brain lol

[frozen cloud]

holy shit why are they SO LOUD

[eager oar]

Wait until you overclock them.... then Fuel Generators really ramp up the sound to hyper speeds lol

[ocean frost]

You are burning 600 m³ of fuel each second.......

[green fiber]

36000 m3/min

[rancid turret]

i turned down the sounds of miners cause that was a high pitched whine that pierced right through everything

[green fiber]

I have that with manufacturers

Those also have a high pitched sound in them

[left totem]

what is that math, how did you come to 600m³/s of fuel consumed ?

[stoic sand]

36000 / 60 sec 😄

[left totem]

for how much power ?

[frail sleet]

How are you changing volume levels per building/sound?

[rancid turret]

it's in the audio settings somewhere, I forget where

[eager oar]

You can also turn down vehicle sounds and such in the audio settings

On my new headphones, when the train horn would go off, it was actually rather loud so I turned down vehicle sounds and that turned down the sound of the vehicle engines, the train itself and the horns

[green fiber]

Factory sound settings has a dropdown. Every single machine has its own slider

[inland verge]

Which would you guys recommend between one big mega factory, or multiple smaller factories? Mega factory seems like it would get hairy trying to keep things straight but smaller factories have to figure out transportation some how...

[eager oar]

I personally like smaller factories connected by trains and/or roads

I also do this because my laptop is not that powerful and staring down a huge mega factory might lower my framerate significantly

[reef basin]

As above, see also https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency

[peak wasp]

Any news on the console realese?

[true mulch]

All latest news are in #announcements

[leaden turret]

@void gorge are you a big enough troll that you'd do a console gameplay stream and not tell us you're playing it on said console?

[bitter basin]

Hey guys, is there any way I can listen to Boombox's playlists online?

[junior laurel]

Unironically a banger idea

[unkempt blade]

I mostly build skyroads everywhere and build factory towers to "support" the skyroad so kind of both?

[zenith pecan]

I got the tower bit #design-and-architecture message , though I dig tunnels instead.

[abstract glacier]

I was just thinking

If they ever make Satisfactory 2, it should be set in space

And you would mine asteroids and travel to moons and build space factories to assembly parts for interstellar travel as the final goal

[buoyant anvil]

The soundtrack is available in the Steam Store. Not sure how that's delivered.

[leaden turret]

you've only played on one continent on the current planet, why do you want to go to space?

[abstract glacier]

It makes sense to me, what would another terrestial like planet offer if not mroe of the same?

Space changes everything and introduces new challenges

[frozen ingot]

multiple planets would be neat, like in Planetary Annihilation. The ultimate logistics challenge

like end game would be having to ship parts/resources from one palnet to the other

[abstract glacier]

I dont think multiple planets would be feasible tbh..

Only a few games tried and it was half assed thats why I do not expect it

[leaden turret]

you can get different biomes in different continents, don't need space for that.

[abstract glacier]

That could work, I was thinking like there's some planets that have several moons and you could travel to each one of them for different resources

And each moon and the planet have different resources that come together so you can build a spaceship that can travel to a different planetary system as the games objective

[leaden turret]

space game moons are either tiny tiny not-to-scale things, or dull repetitive procgen things.

[abstract glacier]

I mean the point is that you have to physically travel to one place to the other

[leaden turret]

if you can physically travel from one place to another, wouldn't you need a full planet to land on rather than a single continent?

[unkempt blade]

very cool!

[buoyant anvil]

I get enough of having to travel from one place to the other within Massage 2(A-B) b. 🙂

[abstract glacier]

Thats why I was thinking inter planetary travelling wouldn't work because that kind of requires the game to be streamlined or loading screens\

[buoyant anvil]

When it comes down to it, the portals are essentially what you'd probably use to go between planets.

[unkempt blade]

I still think this game needs an (optional) ending where you get sucked into the portal after you send all the packages and your world gets erased and you start over in another landing pod

[frozen ingot]

tell you what, regardless, i do hope Satisfactory gets a sequel

[leaden turret]

if you need to build portals to go between planets, how do you get to the other planet in the first place to build the portal?

[abstract glacier]

I would like the possibility to go on a spaceship and land on a moon and set up a base and come back and go to the space station or land on an asteroid or go back to the original planet, seamlessy

[frozen ingot]

and i think it's been successful enough to warrant one, if the devs have the creativitiy/vision for it and want to do it

[buoyant anvil]

Same way you start in new biomes in SF now.

[leaden turret]

I'd like to see css make a smaller game as a palette cleanser

[buoyant anvil]

I mean, effectively you choose your next destination. It just so happens theyre the same planet now.

[leaden turret]

those are entirely separate play sessions.

you're talking about a single play session.

[abstract glacier]

I played this game for 100 hours and only got to unlocking oil

[leaden turret]

same continent.

[zenith pecan]

I have a 4th tower going up, it will have 7776 power stores when completed.

[abstract glacier]

I would like to come back sometimes but I find it hard to scale up my factory production

[frozen ingot]

i'm certainly curious to see what they make next!

no doubt they already are working on something

conceptually at the least

[frozen ingot]

i'd wager you've been making beautiful buildings then 😉

or simply taking your time. So many ways to play this game

[unkempt blade]

blueprints made scaling up more interesting to me - I won't suggest it saves time especially early on 😆

[abstract glacier]

I have tried to optimise my templates and make them stackable

I have used blueprints yes making production towers and it was fun but kinda gave up at that point because I try to make everything in one area and havent figured out the logistics\

The only thing I know how to ship around is coal

[ashen belfry]

Trains and drones

[abstract glacier]

I havent unlocked all that I stopped playing but I will try again soon enough

[unkempt blade]

yeah I thought train systems were a lot of fun once I figured out the basics

[ashen belfry]

And best to produce certain things in certain areas.
And then ship them where you need them

[abstract glacier]

I have to learn everything again I forgot how to do things

[ashen belfry]

In my case it was across a 3km long platform iirc
Mainbus base wasn't the best idea regarding performance. And my laptop kinda struggled

[buoyant anvil]

I'm not a proponent of the mullt-planet play - that's other games. SF offers enough room to have to build some fairly complex logistics networks. What I meant was, CSS could have arbitrarily chosen to have the current biomes be separate planets instead. One can substitute trains with rockets and call biomes planets, but it doesn't dramatically change the game play. You'd be limited by where you go in space instead of where the edges of the work are now.

[abstract glacier]

Yeah thats my idea

[unkempt blade]

yeah we learned that lesson on our first MP save haha

[leaden turret]

Single-biome planets is a bit too star trek

[void gorge]

What do you think the showcase yesterweek was?

(it wasn't)

[abstract glacier]

Moons

[ashen belfry]

But 50fps on mostly ultra was still playable. Without FG. With FG it was definitely playable

[leaden turret]

Scuffed?

[unkempt blade]

just gotta destroy the atmosphere then BAM single biome 😄

[void gorge]

Bruh I felt awesome about it

[leaden turret]

Zero-scuff streams aren't as entertaining

[unkempt blade]

It needs scuffage or there's no personality! Companies would pay big money for the right amount of scuff! 😄

[leaden turret]

Satiscufftory

[inland verge]

Does the time it takes for a machine to construct a part matter if the x/min matches up?

ie if the first Assembler builds 2.5 Modular Frames per minute at 48 sec per craft, does that satisfy the 2.5 Modular Frame demand for Versatile Framework despite the fact that it builds them in 24 sec?

is all that matters the '2.5/min' in this case?

[finite creek]

is it hard to find a group for new players ?

[spice patio]

Just when starting, after that the minute rate is what matters.

[inland verge]

Gotcha, thanks!

[mossy moon]

dam so much customisation i didnt even know existed

[frozen ingot]

likewise! i'm working on a computer factory at the moment, not quite finalised the design yet, but stackable modules for sure

i've been trying to embrace the blueprint system, particularly now with the auto-connect feature in 1.1

[fierce matrix]

hey, odd question. anyone know what version of DLSS is in satisfactory?

[spice patio]

3.7.10 in 1.1 Exp, but don't have 1.0 on disk to check.
Open Satisfactory\FactoryGame\Plugins\DLSS\Binaries\ThirdParty\Win64 (install directory) and check the properties of the DLL?

Details tab should show the version.

[fierce matrix]

thanks chief

[fierce matrix]

can you just dll swap it to 4.0? i think you can right

[spice patio]

Probably.

[fierce matrix]

i havent played in a bit

bunny hopping feels way faster

[spice patio]

Some of the relevant DLLs are under Satisfactory\FactoryGame\Plugins\Streamline\Binaries\ThirdParty\Win64

[fierce matrix]

allright, thanks. apreciate the help 😄

[fierce matrix]

no need, nvidia app can do it for you and force it to run on 4.

[nocturne nebula]

hey guys, what6s youir preferred productyion planner?

[fierce matrix]

im nto sure i can send links here

satisfactory calculator has a nice planner i used to use

[nocturne nebula]

.org, .com?

there are many

[fierce matrix]

send you the link to the one i used to use

im sure theres better

[frozen cloud]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[nocturne nebula]

thanks man ... will give it a go

what's the top speed of the Cyber Wagon? lol

[cedar warren]

Is multiplayer in satisfactory decent?

[nocturne nebula]

FANTASTICO!

[fierce matrix]

even more fun with friends

[viscid crest]

I cant decide between the normal stator recipe with copper wires or the quickwire stator, Im currently making copper with the caterium/copper alternative recipe and only use the copper wire for the RIP alternate recipe and cables // as for the quickwire im making it with the normal recipe and have no use for it currently but plan to use it for future recipes. Is it wise to use the caterium later on only for the higher tier recipes (cuz I havent seen many caterium ore nodes) or would copper be more worth it?

[viscid crest]

its quite fun with at least 1 other person (especially if you die)

[boreal musk]

its up to you, want to save copper? use quickwire and vice versa

or you can use fused quickwire alt which use both caterium and copper

[viscid crest]

well the thing is im not using much of either of them currently but I also never really reached late game yet so Idk what you need more later on or how rare caterium nodes are (and I dont really wanna change the whole setup later)

[fierce matrix]

pure caterium can help alot considering its rarity

just a hassle to get water

[gilded marsh]

Is there are way for me to spawn sources? eg. coal? Like with a console command or smth?

[viscid crest]

yea I got 2 pure nodes near my base which are currently getting turned in caterium ingots

[viscid crest]

I heard theres a mod that allows sucha thing, idk how its called though

[fierce matrix]

theres ways, but it kinds ruins the game for you after a point

[gilded marsh]

Fair

Just don't wanna walk 2km for 1 coal source xD

but I get u

[viscid crest]

only mod Im using is the item teleporter for further away nodes

[gilded marsh]

What's that?

[viscid crest]

expensive building though :/

[fierce matrix]

assuming from the name it probably teleports stuff for you

did they bump the graphics in recent updates? game looks way better then it used to

[viscid crest]

look in #screenshots you will see a teleporter it transports resources to another teleporter with the same name, it costs energy/resources to build and can be expensive

[gilded marsh]

oo nic4e

[viscid crest]

its such a life saver for factory setups with multiple needed resources

[fierce matrix]

any QOL mods you recommend? returning player

[hollow pelican]

i just bought an hdmi cable so i can play satisfactory on my tv :3

[fierce matrix]

nice

[hollow pelican]

while laying in bed whit controler

[fierce matrix]

that is peak

[viscid crest]

So far I used the Infinite Zoop mod (MAM Tree for bigger building options like 30x20 but needs to be unlocked), Power Checker/Efficiency Checker mod

[fierce matrix]

ive been thinking about doing this ngl

[hollow pelican]

it's confy and relaxing

[viscid crest]

and a big one but idk about QOL is the Advanced Logistics mod that adds adjustable splitter/merger so you can decide how much each side gets/takes

[fierce matrix]

im suprised the game still doesnt have this natively

i did see they finally added a belt counter, i had a mod for that in update 3 lmao

[hollow pelican]

and priority merger

[fierce matrix]

yeah, but my pc is downstairs and my tv is upstairs.

[hollow pelican]

use fiber hdmi it works wonders

[viscid crest]

So for late game do you need much quickwire?

[fierce matrix]

depends on your recipes

i doubt your gonna run out realistically, its just gonna be a hassle to get it crossmap if you dont have mods/trainnetworks

[fierce matrix]

might be better off using steam remoteplay,

[viscid crest]

yea I got the item teleporter mod so that wouldnt be an issue

[fierce matrix]

pure recipe + mk3 miner theres loads

[hollow pelican]

if you have good wifi or just Ethernet sure

[fierce matrix]

yeah, got a solid 900 up/down over wifi and cat8 cables running through the house. delay will prob be around 20-30ms

[hollow pelican]

oh that would have been amazing for me

[terse venture]

cat8 😄

[fierce matrix]

dutch internet goes brrr

[fierce matrix]

it was on discount, and im waiting for my isp to finally allow me to get 4gigabit

they gotta replace the box that terminates the fiber to rj45 but they wont

[terse venture]

ya ok, cat 8 cable on market but all plugs are 6e, so not really cat 7 / 8 .. just funny some think so .p

[fierce matrix]

these are fully cat8, the plugs on them where pre terminated

just got a bunch of 20m cat8 cables

[viscid crest]

damn why am I getting lag spikes every few minutes all of the sudden and when I run back the direction I came from it stops

[fierce matrix]

[viscid crest]

I do be playing on a 13yo pc because im at my parents home but still T.T

[fierce matrix]

i used to play on a pc from 2011 till 2023

[viscid crest]

I can by my cpu on ebay for 20 bucks

[fierce matrix]

absolute beast

[terse venture]

and why you then ask why lag spikes ?

[viscid crest]

I really like my newly self build pc though

[fierce matrix]

i ran a 2010 xeon overclocked to narnia for years

[terse venture]

20 bucks + 1000% tax hihi 😄

[viscid crest]

CPU usage on 80% with Satisfactory on lowest possible settings alone

[fierce matrix]

i upgraded last year, 40% cpu usage on everything max 1440p

dlss Transformer model on quality tho

[viscid crest]

WHat parts?

[latent rain]

Got to say it was awesome to try the controller support on exp build. Cant wait!

[fierce matrix]

7800x3d+4080s

[fierce matrix]

is it good? satisfactory always seemed a bit complex for a controller

[viscid crest]

im running a 7800x3d with my 4060 I bought a year ago or so

[fierce matrix]

nice

[viscid crest]

and glassfiber with a modem directly plugged into my pc

[fierce matrix]

i bought my stuff at the perfect timing, 7800x3d skyrocketed in price 2 months later, and so did gpus

[latent rain]

Tiny bit of getting used to but it has button prompts on screen. So yea I’m excited for this to go stable

[fierce matrix]

nice 😄 cant wait to sit back on a couch with this game

[viscid crest]

fr I was lucky with my 4060 although it wasnt the best decision to get a 4060 xd

[latent rain]

Same ere, I wanna play now but don’t wanna burn out when console comes

[terse venture]

low cards are trash 😄

[fierce matrix]

been amd my whole life up untill my 4080

dlss4 is free fps at this point

[viscid crest]

and I maybe need to look for a new Monitor, my pc with my current monitor doesnt really seem ok

[fierce matrix]

fsr3 does not compare and fsr4 is locked to the new amd cardss only

[viscid crest]

I switched to amd with my new pc

[latent rain]

FYI I was playing exp build on Rog ally x last night on high and getting 40/50fps so it’s well optimised

[fierce matrix]

depends on usecases, some people are budget limited or dont really need more for what they want to do

[fierce matrix]

oh thats nice

[terse venture]

all grafik futures like dlss etc. are customer scam, use software for hardware is not a good deal. all the new ki is a customer scam .)

[viscid crest]

imagine upgrading your whole PC after 13 years with the same PC parts but still using the same monitor (couldnt be me)

[fierce matrix]

im waiting for a steamdeck refresh or 2 untill i get a handheld tbh

[viscid crest]

I still got that thick Heavy as hell monitor

[latent rain]

Yea next gen handhelds are gonna be awesome im excited for that too

[fierce matrix]

id agree, but dlss4 on quality on 1440p or higher is so good you dont really see it, its free FPS

[hidden sparrow]

B580 :

[fierce matrix]

amd mobile cpus a re getting really good, so its gonna be fun

[nocturne nebula]

my cpu is working as much as my gpu when I run this game at the mo, lol

both around 50%

[viscid crest]

dont talk about my 1080 ti like that

[nocturne nebula]

lol

[fierce matrix]

i got global illumination on max so my gpu is sitting at 60-70% rn

[latent rain]

So yea. Great job so far coffee stain on controller support

[terse venture]

1080 ti is a nice heater like 1070 .p

[hidden sparrow]

My cpu is almost pegged at 80% all the time, the game eats 28gb of ram for 25 fps

[viscid crest]

its currently keeping my old pc im playing on while at my parents house alive

xd

[mossy moon]

i disagree. 750 ti and i still get 60 fps (on a new save) and on medium graphics

[fierce matrix]

the fuck is it using 28gb for

[nocturne nebula]

AMD's make much better space heaters ... if I was cold and poor i'd move my setup to the smallest room in the house, lol