satisfactory

[tough seal]

HI I have a conveyor line high up and a line of assemblies, that have a lift up to the line. on the line I place merges which when I hold CTRL down snap in place to line up with the lift...

However, sometimes the snapping just doesn't do anything. tried from all sorts of angles but they are just not snapping into line. Anyone any idea what this might be or is it a bug. ?

I'd post an image but cant seem to post here

[lime ermine]

Make a post in #1038092680493801533

[small heart]

Hows the Late game when theres a lot of stuff built on the map for your average PC's ?

[tough seal]

Cheers, new to to this discord here. posted in Q/H now, thanks

[unkempt blade]

It's worse in really densely built out areas but factories can get pretty large before it's a big deal

I was building #screenshots message on a ~5y/o PC in a less optimized version of the game and it slowed down the tick rate a bit was still playable

[frail chasm]

Does anyone else think they've done an amazing job on the controller mappings? 😍

[azure swan]

Is there a way to change your default build mode for anything? Straight for belts, curved for hypertubes etc etc?

[true mulch]

nope, it forgets the mode upon reloading a save

[fossil ice]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @true mulch

[true mulch]

make a request if you'd want that added

[azure swan]

It would be nice even if it was just a settings text file edit or something.

[nocturne nebula]

hey guys, whats your fav starting area and why?

I am thinking of a fresh run in the rocky desert ... trying to use everything in the game rather than skipping over many things like jump pads, vehicles, etc

[small heart]

I see. thanks!

[mortal sinew]

guys, is there a way to make it that items get only taken away from a storage unit once its completely full, and if its not full anymore it stops taking the items again? sorry new to this game .... 😅

[azure swan]

There is if you have access to a smart splitter. Not directly without it, though.

If you're just trying to keep the container full, though, you could approximate this with a manifold-like design.

It would split product evenly with downstream and with the container, but once the container is full it would all go downstream

[mortal sinew]

yeah i could, i just want the remaining items to go into the awesome sink yk

[azure swan]

With smart splitter you put product into smart splitter then put "ALL" port into container and "OVERFLOW" into sink.

Without smart splitter you can build similar with a regular splitter. This won't work exactly like you ask, but it will fill up the container eventually, after which point it will put everything into the sink, and the container will not empty

[left totem]

instead of prioritising filling the container over going to the sink, it will 50/50 them yeah

[azure swan]

Yes exactly. This would work just like a manifold. In the short term it's not really doing what you want, but in the long term it's going to approximate trying to keep the container full and sinking the rest.

The downside would be if the container ever gets emptied it will refill at half the possible rate if you'd just used a smart splitter.

[spark ruin]

if you have a CPU at recomended spec then you have to pretty much cover an entire biome to get below 60 (probably even more but i dont know, i havent gotten to that point yet)

so
its not bad at all

[mossy moon]

i can agree. also idk abt my friend with 2 gb ram tho

[spark ruin]

BTW what specs do you have ?

[spark ruin]

2GB RAM ??
In 2025 ???
what is he on ? windows vista ?

[azure swan]

Ram is SILLY CHEAP these days. That's nutty low.

[mossy moon]

i made a mega base and it has all t9 non elevator parts being made. and theres 3 times more room than what ive used up so far in the building and im also making another giant nuclear plant and i get a tolerable 40 fps

[mossy moon]

he on some nokia phone type shi i swear

[spark ruin]

what specs ?

[mossy moon]

exactly

[mossy moon]

its an i7

[spark ruin]

ahh funny very funny

[mossy moon]

too lazy to check more details

[spark ruin]

for all i know that could be a 3570K or a 14700K

[mossy moon]

welp im too lazy to go further with details

[spark ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/willem-dafoe-laugh-crazy-car-gif-22580177

[azure swan]

Tell your friend to skip mcdonalds for one day and buy enough ram to more than triple his total ram. A quote from 2022 put the price of DDR4 RAM at $3.15 per GB. It's most likely even cheaper now.

[spark ruin]

[cough] #satisfactory message

[mossy moon]

u see uh we uh it complciated

[left totem]

do you live in an EXTREMELY poor country ? is your friend underage ?

[spark ruin]

its phone
RAM is part of the SOC (CPU+GPU+RAM) on a phone

[mossy moon]

not an adult and stricks parents and all that

[left totem]

fuck strict parents tbf

[azure swan]

I get it, money can be a real bitch. I'm just saying if $6 could double your RAM I feel like you could make that happen if you're over the age of 10.

[spark ruin]

TBH i dont think RAM matters that much on a phone
as long as you can run youtube and play clash royale or whatever

[left totem]

if you ever become a parent, don't be too strict, but be strict enough at some points
and always listen to your child

[azure swan]

Aren't we talking about COMPUTER specs to run Satisfactory? I'm just assuming from the discord we're in. What's a phone got to do with it?

[left totem]

more RAM means more multitasking or heavy usage

[mossy moon]

for satisfactory is what were talking abt

[mossy moon]

ye

[azure swan]

Feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

[spark ruin]

but, you said that your friend only has a phone 🤔
phones cant run SF

[mossy moon]

when? that nkoia phone shit was a joke bru

[spark ruin]

im too old for this sort of joke

[mossy moon]

this is how i feel too sometimes when i talk with my friends

but uh funy thing, im the same age as most my friend group and i dont understand 90% of the jokes and this brain rot

[spark ruin]

skibidi toilet type un funny jokes ?

[mossy moon]

i dont know waht you just said.. (i think this proves my point)

[small heart]

thanks

3060 GPU
i5 10500H
16GB RAM
Laptop

and the GPU is one of the worst version of chip released for laptops when the GPU came out

Basically undervolted. can't remember what I read about them back then

[spark ruin]

well good
cuz those "jokes" are less funny then someone farting

[mossy moon]

dam so its just cpu? i have some geforc gtx750ti and same ram etc.. but i get 40 to 60 fps even on a big save

[spark ruin]

yeah, that'll work with mostly high settings But you would have to set texture quality to medium and you wont be able to use FG (cuz that GPU is a 6GB card)
the CPU is a bit lower than recomended spec but it will give you at least 60fps if you arent insane (with building)

[small heart]

gotcha, thanks

[spark ruin]

"big save" is subjective

[small heart]

Yeah i'm looking at all these content creators factories and the buildings have a lot of small objects placed to make it look nifty

i probably shouldnt be doing that

at least not at the scale they are doing

[spark ruin]

i did some CPU limited benchmarks a long time ago (my CPU is an R5 5500 which is below recomended spec)
settings : textures:high lumen OFF FSR 50% targeting 1080p all else set to ultra/cinematic

UPDATE 7 save (103K entities/8,5MB)
77 avg
24 1%
6 0.1%

update 8 save (92K entities/6,6MB)
101 avg
52 1%
23 0.1%

[small heart]

Oh interesting

[spark ruin]

the "Update 8" save has quite a few of those little beams and pillars (to make it look pretty) in it but as you see it runs pretty damn well

so i say that you shouldnt worry about that

[small heart]

Okidok ill just go at it and see how it goes

[spark ruin]

though i do intend to throw the U8 and U7 saves out soon and retest it with my 1.0 (now 1.1) save file
cuz those test were run in 1.0 and now the game is in 1.1 experimental AND i have added a LOT to my save so it should be a lot heavier to run now

[spark ruin]

keep in mind that that was a CPU only test so you will NOT have 100fps+ normally

GPU limited benchmarks:
1080 FSR AA 100% everything set to ultra/cinematic

factory benchmark (my 1.0 save)
74 avg
46 1%
20 0.1%

foliage heavy area benchmark (AKA:the red forest)
37 avg
25 1%
6 0.1%

1080p FSR AA 100% with the high preset

foliage heavy area benchmark
48 avg
29 1%
26 0.1%

factory benchmark (my 1.0 save)
88 avg
53 1%
30 0.1%

though you should keep in mind the fact that my GPU is faster than yours

only 9% faster according to this website i found

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-3060-mobile.c3757
huh
guess the bots didnt catch me
or techpowerup got whitelisted

[small heart]

everything is faster tha mine XD

JK but yeah this gives me some relief about going the distance with a save

[terse lichen]

They should add a brick wall texture

[mossy moon]

yeah i dont do that. instead of bunch of small details i just make a giant building and treat foundations and small beams and scale everything up to stll have a similar density of detail as a good looking small facotry but its way more epic bcs its gon be gigantic.
this is better than a small building bcs you can fit a lot more machines in it

[spark ruin]

i just re-ran my 1.0-1.1 save through the same sort of benchmark (just this time i had FSR 50% at 720p) result :
1.0 save (133K entities 11.3MB)
73fps avg
30 1%
11 0.1%

[nocturne nebula]

how many hours into your current saves are you guys?

[spark ruin]

430+ hours
i lost track

[nocturne nebula]

nice, I am having a fresh start

intentionally slowing down, not skipping anything an actually implementing all the tech

I have barely touched vehicles since about 1 month into EA, lol

[spark ruin]

[night rock]

about 350 hours - i started anew for 1.0, had a maybe 4-500 in early access... taking it easy, and just enjoying the game in all it's glory!

[heady night]

I have like >130 on my main save

I got to phase 4 but didnt start anything in it yet

[nocturne nebula]

I have too many hours in EA ... about 5k, lol

[rigid stag]

im like at tier 6 i think, and i need automated wiring for something thats across the map, the best way to transport it is with trains at my point of the game right?

[nocturne nebula]

or yourself, lol

long term or temp crafting?

[rigid stag]

uhh

computers are long term or temp crafting?

[nocturne nebula]

long i'd say

unless its a quick fix for player upgrades

[rigid stag]

those i got with computers from crash ships

[dawn idol]

YESS

its already making my brain hurt LMAO 💀

[dawn idol]

bro

I only have 190 hours total LOL

[spark ruin]

Rookie numbers

[dawn idol]

u guys are really slow to progress tho huh

I have done 3-4 saves and each time I get a bit farther but its roughly at like t6-t7

[spark ruin]

978 hours total

across 4 saves

[dawn idol]

💀

[spark ruin]

been playing since Update 4

[dawn idol]

bruh

[indigo osprey]

for my fuel power plant im using 34 gens and 17 refineries will i need to use mk2 pipes? or will the mk 1 still carry the fuel efficiently enough?

[spark ruin]

MK 1 will suffice
you will just have to build more pipes

[indigo osprey]

ok ty

[spark ruin]

you know whats crazier ?
||I've never once beat the game ||

[cyan garnet]

What is this in terms of flow rates? Not machine counts

How much are the 17 refineries making? How much are 34 gens consuming?

[indigo osprey]

both 680m3

[rancid turret]

MK2 is 600, you will need two pipes each

[indigo osprey]

ok, so if i make a loop for the gens i just need 2 pipes going into the loop?

[elfin cradle]

suppose i have a large quantity of a specific product in my inventory that i want to transfer into a storage, is there any way to do that without individually clicking on all the items

[indigo osprey]

ctrl click

[cyan garnet]

You can split the refineries and gens into two groups and feed each with its own pipe. Clock them accordingly

[elfin cradle]

thanks man

[indigo osprey]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1363566993042571406

like that and just have one row feed onto the other??

[nocturne nebula]

@unborn gyro you sent a message earlier wanting to play? I am up for that bud 🙂

[cyan garnet]

Can’t tell from this photo

You have 17 refineries total? How much fuel does each one make?

You could do a group of 8 and a group of 9. Send one pipe from each group to the appropriate number of generators. They won’t be even

[frail chasm]

Just gotten to setting up fuel generators. My dodgy maths is coming out as 1 refinery produces 120m3/m that would feed 6 fuel generators at 20m3/m. Is this right!? Seems like a large ratio of generators to refineries...

No dammit : 160m3/m. Meaning 8 to 1

[viscid crest]

What steel pipe recipe do yall use? because the iron pipe recipe looks promising but the molded steel pipe produces double it and I cant decide

[nocturne nebula]

hey guys, I am in rocky desert startiong area ... any ideas where my nearest SAM ore and Summer Sloops are?

[feral inlet]

does anyone know how many foundations are needed for a tractor/Truck to make a 90 degree turn

[white dawn]

You actually can do pretty tight turns if you keep the speed slow. Automated vehicles more or less follow the speed you recorded

(They've got a lower top speed than manual drive though)

[viscid crest]

look in the screenshot channel#screenshots message

[white dawn]

But in general it's good advice to go for wider turns

I don't think there's an "ideal" size, just play with it and see what works for you. :)

[nocturne nebula]

thanks man!

[latent prawn]

you probably want the sam in the middle of one of the crater lakes. there's also a node in the big spider cave

[junior laurel]

That pissing node took me like half an hour to find when 1.0 first dropped >:(

[latent prawn]

oh?

[spark plover]

hopefully everyone is having a good easter so far

[latent prawn]

were you looking in the twin lake<->desert underpass?

[junior laurel]

I was looking for a cave entrance on the "bowl" of the crater lake

[latent prawn]

ahh

[junior laurel]

It was more luck, I've found caves that people need to google how to find in like 5 mins. 😅

[elfin cradle]

any way to time skip to day / night?

[shrewd palm]

not without mods

[elfin cradle]

damm ok

[grizzled lotus]

if I understand correctly, the way to use the blueprint designer is to build whatever I want in it, then access the terminal and save it, right?

[elfin cradle]

yes

[grizzled lotus]

how to build the blueprint then?

[elfin cradle]

there is a seperate tab when you press q to build anything

you will find all your blueprints there

[lime ermine]

In the build menu there's a blueprint tab

[grizzled lotus]

👍

[cyan garnet]

What recipes?

[frail chasm]

Vanilla fuel

[cyan garnet]

How are you arriving at 120/min? Or 160/min for that matter

[frail chasm]

FFS. How do I post pics in here? Thought you could on discord

[sullen gull]

In the #screenshots room

[cyan garnet]

This is the only channel that doesn’t allow screenshots

Better off making a thread in #1038092680493801533 - that’s what it’s for

Centralize discussion and screenshots about a topic in one thread

Even without screenshots I can see what you are doing. The refinery shows you how much it makes per cycle and also how much per minute. For simplicity it’s best to just look at the per minute numbers everywhere

The fuel recipe makes 4 fuel per cycle, with a 6 second cycle time. Thus, 40 fuel per minute

You don’t multiply these numbers together

[frail chasm]

I did wonder. So "4m3 Fuel, 40 per minute" isn't 40x4?. V confusing. So the "40 per minute" actually means "40m3/min"??

[cyan garnet]

m3 (cubic meters) is just the unit of measure. Not really relevant

Every 6 seconds, it spits out 4 units of fuel. 60 seconds in a minute. Thus, 40 fuel per minute

[frail chasm]

Roger that.

[cyan garnet]

Every machine gives you input and outputs in terms of per-minute numbers, so the easiest thing to do is to always use those in your maths. All the online SF planners do this too (in terms of numbers being given per-minute)

[frail chasm]

Thanks 👍

[cyan garnet]

np

[frail chasm]

Interestingly, it does put the units on the fuel gens, ie: "20m3 per minute" as opposed to the refinery just citing the volume not the units. My physics teacher would have a dick fit. "Always state you units"

*duck 🤣

[cyan garnet]

So back to your original question, how many fuel gens per refinery w that recipe?

[frail chasm]

2

You actually sound like my physics teacher. 🤣

[heady night]

yea yea now tell me if the apple fell on newtons head then how do i produce 3000 nuclear pasta per minute

[frail chasm]

Quantum mechanics is a bit above my pay grade.

[heady night]

😢

[fathom portal]

Is it possible for a drone to do multiple stop at different hp ?

[rancid turret]

drones are only point to point

[sly gazelle]

Hi can anyone tell me why my machines went to idle sometimes when they have all the mats?

[placid stirrup]

Output is full

[sly gazelle]

nop it's empty

[spice patio]

Or jetpack moving between grids bug.

[thin narwhal]

hello, i have wanted to play satisfactory for a year but have never been able to afford it, is there anyone who would be kind enough to give me a steam code for it, thank you very much

[spice patio]

Which stuns the new grid in cases.
Need to remove and re-equip it.

[fathom portal]

It's not chrismas

[sly gazelle]

it happens half of my nuclear power plant O.O

yeah now i see it happens when i go to another grid, but it effects all my machines

[split badger]

can biofuel generators store power in batteries?

or only the pollutive power generators?

[cyan garnet]

Biomass burners will not charge power storages

[terse venture]

there is one power generator and you can put in all 6-8 ? fuels .. differenz use for output. turbofuel is nice .p

[split badger]

So everything except them? Coal, Fuel, Geothermal, Nuclear, etc?

[cyan garnet]

Correct

[sullen gull]

Rocket fuel is where it's at. No headlift bs 🙂

[terse venture]

no fuel, coal is other power plant, atom is other too

[sullen gull]

Atom?

[split badger]

Fuel won't store power?

[terse venture]

no only batterie

[sullen gull]

...

[terse venture]

atom is nuclear sorry .p

[cyan garnet]

Fuel gens will charge power storages

[sullen gull]

Ohh, gotcha.

[cyan garnet]

Anything that produces constant power, which is everything except biomass burners

[vivid jackal]

agh i am in pain

my pc avgs 18 fps on lowest graphics and only 50 hrs on the world

[supple pebble]

factorio is better

[tight flume]

OK? Nice opinion, I guess?

[reef basin]

*different

[dawn idol]

Tf

[spark ruin]

i usually burn out after aluminum production

[dawn idol]

I have never hit that point yet LOL

[dawn idol]

That's a opinated statement lol

[spark ruin]

after OR durring

[red sun]

that's just like, your opinion, man

[dawn idol]

Im cooping with a irl friend and we just finished computers lol

[spark ruin]

[dawn idol]

They not comparable anyway

[vernal dragon]

Playing the game since Update 3

[spark ruin]

i intend on finishing this : https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/planners/production/index/json/{"Desc_AluminumIngot_C"%3A"3560"%2C"Desc_AluminaSolution_C"%3A"1"%2C"altRecipes"%3A["Recipe_PureAluminumIngot_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_SloppyAlumina_C"]}

[vernal dragon]

Never beaten it either

[spark ruin]

damn
1 update sooner than me

[dawn idol]

Bruh

[spark ruin]

though TBH you couldnt actually beat the game before 1.0

[mild sparrow]

Just finished the game in 1.1 and now thinking “what’s next?” Is there an alternative modded campaign or something similar? (:

[dawn idol]

I miss my hover thing so badly 😭

[dawn idol]

Satifactory plus is working with 1.0

Now

[mild sparrow]

Oh that looks interesting. Is there any new machines etc or is it just a more hardcore grind? (:

[spark ruin]

oh, yeah
i too missed my hoverpack
(until i built a temporary aluminum setup for it )

[dusky spear]

i just wanted to start my main base

i place the first 10 blocks

ava : I dont think that is an improvment

me : ._.

[ocean frost]

ADA needs more ai limiters installed

[obtuse sable]

I hit credits the other day and, for some reason, feel the need to start a fresh save.

[copper crater]

am I crazy for starting with 6 nucelar power generators without a way to remove waste yet?

[obtuse sable]

Not really, but it puts you on the clock to deal with it

[copper crater]

how difficult is it to deal with it

I know you make it into plutonium and then sink that I think

[obtuse sable]

Well now there's a few more options with what to do with plutonium. Sink it, burn it, or use it as fuel for your drones.

[copper crater]

I think for now I'll end up sinking it once I start making it, Don't have any drones yet (or any vehicles for that matter idk what I'm doing with those)

[grizzled lotus]

I heard in-game that I can upgrade mk1 belts into mk2 belts, is there a trick to this?

I meant that instead of dismantling mk1 and building mk2, I could just point and click and the resources would be refunded/consumed

[turbid ledge]

Hover the mk2 belt over the mark 1 it should be yellow and as long as you have the resources to

[grizzled lotus]

I see, thanks

[obtuse sable]

works for anything that has an upgraded version, belts, lifts, power poles, pipes, miners

[terse venture]

what say yellow icon on map ? overclock ?

hmm no

[copper crater]

how useful are vehicles, I haven't experimented with them yet, I'm working on phase 4

[shrewd palm]

extremely

[terse venture]

depend on your gameexperience .)

can be funny drive around some time

[shrewd palm]

game is downright unplayable without trains, other vehicles not so much but drones and trucks are still very useful

explorer is nice for exploring

[terse venture]

you canb do all with belts too

i have much but some trains too .p

[turbid ledge]

I think its weird you cant do this with pumps

[elder apex]

I personally have finished the game 5 times and have never used a train, nor do I have any desire to, so your statement about the game being unplayable without trains should be followed with "IMO"

[turbid ledge]

You can upgrade a mk2 pipe but not a pump for some reason

[terse venture]

i have one base, around 50 belts and pipes come in, most 720 full .p

[grizzled lotus]

um, can I not build miners in the blueprint designer?

[obtuse sable]

funny thing is, I made one train for my aluminum production and coasted out the rest of the game with drones

Drones are fantastic if you do smaller builds, but trains really do shine the larger your builds become

[terse venture]

mk6 now .p

[shrewd palm]

i think i might do drones for uranium

[turbid ledge]

I honestly just use hypertubes to get around then put the piping and tubes spanning the map mainly cause im sadistic

[shrewd palm]

dont want to risk that getting into a questionable train network

[grizzled lotus]

guess not?

[elder apex]

in vanilla you cannot build miners in the blueprint designer since miners can only be built on resource nodes, and blueprint designers cannot be placed on top of nodes

[grizzled lotus]

ok just excited about getting the blueprints since it looks fun

is dimensional depot a game-changer?

[elder apex]

both are IMO

[turbid ledge]

Its good if your making structures that span large areas so you dont have to run all the way back.

[elder apex]

DD will mitigate and even eventually eliminate the need for any centralized storage as you progress through the game

[grizzled lotus]

I tried to make my storage containers organized at the start but it was so much trouble. I ended up having a bunch that weren't organized

[ocean frost]

That's everyone at the start

[turbid ledge]

Im pretty sure mine is just a spider web

[indigo osprey]

why are pipes so difficult

[ocean frost]

I still have a few boxes of shame I need to remove

[turbid ledge]

They dont exist if you refuse to look at themc

[ocean frost]

Fluid simulations were all the rage 7 years ago

[ocean frost]

I forget to turn them off on the map

[indigo osprey]

im trying to run a fuel gen setup and its not running at capacity the fluid isnt filling up fast enough

[obtuse sable]

my rule of thumb with pipes after much trial and error(and help from here) is this: If you need to use pipe junctions, build them first and then connect pipes to them.

[ocean frost]

Just split it in half and run 2 pipes we can sort it out later

[indigo osprey]

i have

[shrewd palm]

turn the generators off and prefill them, then turn them back on (can turn them off just by disconnecting all wires to each generator

[ocean frost]

Wait for the pipe to flood

[shrewd palm]

that should take care of most of it but pipes are still really weird so you might have a couple generators at the end not working

[obtuse sable]

it's better to run buildings at 1% to let their internal buffer fill and then bring them up to their desired workload

[turbid ledge]

I usually just get two oil pumps merge them into one pipe and its enough for like 5 buildings

[ocean frost]

We have a few full time members that help with pipes stuff

[turbid ledge]

Then i do the same with water etc

[obtuse sable]

if you have a building off, the internal buffer won't fill

[ocean frost]

You can sloop the refinery or blender

Works out better unless you are pushing 600

[obtuse sable]

that's another reason I want to do another playthrough. so I don't get carried through my power needs with power augmenters

[turbid ledge]

When it comes to using pipes for residual fuel i honestly just smack em all together and pray for the best

[ocean frost]

It should be fine

[turbid ledge]

My piping network looks like hell on the outside but it oddly works really well

[ocean frost]

I have trouble making refineries look good

[prisma thicket]

Can someone tell me how much compacted coal per minute a coal generator burns?

[reef basin]

the coal gen can tell you

[ocean frost]

7.14286 / min it's on the wiki

[prisma thicket]

Ugh, ugly number to work with >.<

[reef basin]

7.142857142857 repeating

[ocean frost]

Don't work with it

[tall lantern]

or 50/7

[ocean frost]

Just round it up to 7.5

[prisma thicket]

So I guess 3 compacted coal assemblers feeds 10 generators then? Is there any change in the water consumption or is that the same?

[reef basin]

3 compacted coal assemblers feed 10.5 gens

[prisma thicket]

I was going based on what Gill said, rounding to 7.5

[reef basin]

no reason to do that

[indigo osprey]

worked ty

[indigo osprey]

i personally skipped compacted coal and just built a fuel gen setup

[prisma thicket]

I have fuel gens going, I just wanted to try setting up a compacted coal facility so I know what I'm doing with it if I ever want to use it again in another playthrough

[terse venture]

coal only steal and diamonds 😄

[reef basin]

don't steal diamonds

[terse venture]

hihi 😦

[prisma thicket]

Think he meant steel

[terse venture]

ya hihi

[dreamy ingot]

I am disappointed in the fact you can get a deep rock galactic tape in game and it doesn't have axes out in the playlist

[sly gazelle]

Anybody can help me? My friend left the game then my power just gone, i produce 2 times more than i needed but still cannot start my whole world.

[nocturne nebula]

how do I use somersloops to duplicate power shards pls?

[sly gazelle]

You have to learn it in the MAM

[nocturne nebula]

hmmmm

thought I already had, lol

[split prairie]

whats the keybind to change ammo on the rebar gun? i tried everything i could think of and was sure i was missing something then just now i smashed some buttons by mistake and the UI to change ammo apperead for a split second but now im trying to repeat what i did but no luck

[nocturne nebula]

hold R I think

[split prairie]

oh thanks i was thinking it was R+something else

[dusky spear]

can someone help me with path signals ?
i placed them and all of them on my junction are showing the yellow caution signal
what did i do wrong TwT

note :
the junction is rly big so idk if that even works

[hasty frigate]

path signals need a clear exit to be valid. So you need a block signal after them. If your junction terminates abruptly that would cause yellow signals

[dusky spear]

i will draw how i set it up rn
cuz i am lost sry

[hasty frigate]

replace all path signals with block signals to simplify it. They should be your go-to for 95% of cases

[dusky spear]

i still would like to understand it if its ok with you

[hasty frigate]

My bet is there's a branch or two missing a block signal exiting the junction. You did say it was really big

[nocturne nebula]

you're welcome ... happy pew pew!

[arctic current]

anyone know if 1.1 experimental branch is just for bug fixes at this point, aka no new features?

[dusky spear]

#screenshots

[ocean frost]

A block signal is like having a traffic light that is only red or green.

A path signal is like having a traffic light that has red and green arrows for left turn going straight and right turns

[split badger]

oh so i dont need to delete and place a new one?

[void thorn]

Ok, so like I got the Steam Deck Oled a couple months ago and I love it but curious if I should get this game specificly I love factory games and played DSP and Factorio but dont know if I should get it due to controls and late game run speed what do you guys think?

[turbid ledge]

Correct

[hasty frigate]

@dusky spearyeah do those exiting blocks have a block signal after THEM too ?

[dusky spear]

no theres just this

[hasty frigate]

extend the line further before and after, placing block signals there too. Should make it a valid path signal then

[dusky spear]

so i just have to make the lines where the block signals are longer and add a block signal at the end of that line

[hasty frigate]

path signals will be valid &either green or red if the next signal after them are either clear or not clear. If it's yellow caution then likely the track terminates or the next signal has an issue (usually track terminates)

[silent anchor]

You can press e on them to check for the error type.

[dusky spear]

ok so the path signals all say "Waiting for Path Reservation"
the block signals that were there originaly say "Block Clear"
and the block signals i added after them say "Block has no exit Signal"

[hasty frigate]

need another block signal after

[dusky spear]

3 ?

on one line ?

[silent anchor]

If they say waiting.. they are working. They only show a clear if a train tries to use them.

[dusky spear]

ok i added another one
now the second is ok
but the one i placed has the same problem

[hasty frigate]

yeah at the moment I suspect the train line is not complete, so the exiting block can't show valid as the track terminates

[dusky spear]

ok i think i did it
i connected the exits and the entrances together and now all the signals work

#screenshots i did it like this now
is this right ?

[dreamy ingot]

My friends were setting up a human lift and I was tasked with continuing it but whenever I do it doesn't let me interact with the specifics for the floor and whenever I look at any part of the lift it gives me a cog pop up but I can't interact with it. Also whenever I use the lift it isn't a smooth ride it is really bumpy and keeps jumping me around even when it stops at the top, the only time it stops bumping around is when it's at the bottom.

[wet shoal]

@dusky spear Why do you set two block signals at each exit of the junction?

One suffices

[dusky spear]

was told so

[hasty frigate]

one does suffice, if the track goes somewhere &connects to itself so has another signal later down the line

[wet shoal]

If you loock at the change of color of the rails you will see that one block signal at each exit handles the junction just fine.

[wet shoal]

Yeah the usual spaced out signals to ensure multiple rails running.

Not quite the same as two block signals in close proximity of a junction tho.

[hasty frigate]

it was an unfinished track as I suspected, he was troubleshooting it

[dusky spear]

ok so update

i placed a train station at every exit

now i have 2 trains going between these stations

i have 1 block signal on each exit

and 1 block signal at the stations

it works now (i think)

yep it works now thank yall ❤️

also thx i understand now how it works ❤️

yall are amazing sry for wasting your time ...

[hasty frigate]

no probs 👷‍♂️ yeah once you start placing signals you kind of have to complete the line &/or place more signals

[dreamy ingot]

Guys I've been trying to make a player elevator but all of a sudden it has just started shuddering and bouncing me around inside the elevator when I'm using it and this only stops at the ground floor (I say ground floor I have been stacking them) anyone know what I'm doing wrong? I've been doing the exact same for a while and it only just started.

[rigid stag]

with trains, the more locomotives you have the faster the train goes right

?

[copper crater]

just spent an hour trying to find out why my water flow wasn't working for my nuclear reactors, when I upgraded from t1 to t2 pipes I missed a single 1m of pipe that was still t1

[latent prawn]

not really, the faster it can accelerate on inclines. usually for most tracks you want to stick to one engine pulling 4-5 cars

[green fiber]

the max speed it goes on flat segments is still 120 km/h

[latent prawn]

my personal taste is that a 4 frieght car train length is about the sweet spot for what you can build

[green fiber]

the max speed on flat parts never increases. The only thing more locomotives does on uphill slopes is it gives them more pulling power
and on downhill slopes it adds weight so it accelerates faster

[latent prawn]

...beyond that and landscape starts fighting you when you are trying to smush a train station in somewhere

yeah, more engines if you don't need them just end up being a power waste

[rigid stag]

so i took a break from the game because i had to build a train that was very long, just built it and trains are cool in this game

[latent prawn]

if you keep your rail inclines to a gradation that matches 2m foundation ramps, and your frieght car length under 5 cars, you'll never have need for a 2nd engine

[rigid stag]

but hypertubes are cooler

[latent prawn]

also, just as a theory thing. when things run in a circle, speed isn't very important

what is more important is that the vehicle traveling has enough capacity to carry everything produced in between round trips 🙂

[shrewd palm]

that moment when you have like 200 hours of nuclear waste to move but you can only move it at 2400/min

[turbid ledge]

Nuclear waste does not sound bad atleast you have some

Meanwhile im stuck with one plant understanding nuclear energy

[humble karma]

would yall know how to move a server save over to singleplayer

[sullen gull]

If you can access the server settings for the save games, you can download the save and put it into %localappdata%\FactoryGame\Saved\Savegames

[humble karma]

i have the save game and i put it in the savegames folder, but im not seeing any new saves in load

[wet shoal]

I might be old fashioned, but I would usually build the recycling where the waste is, or plan the depot where the recycling shall be one day...

[shrewd palm]

its from my old nuclear plant

just tore it down and dont have the infrastructure to process all of it

new one will be able to deal with waste tho

[sullen gull]

Did you restart the game?

[pale brook]

is there an estimated time for when 1.1 will be out completely

[humble karma]

well yeah multiple times

[shrewd palm]

when its ready

ive seen a couple people that are expecting it within a month or something

[sullen gull]

Are the versions the same? I.e. not 1.0 on the server and 1.1 on the desktop?

[humble karma]

should be same version

[sullen gull]

Also, there may be another folder in SaveGames, make sure the save gets put in there

[humble karma]

yup its in there

next to that additional folder theres two .sav files if that means anything

[sullen gull]

Not sure. I only have one, called ServerManager_V2.sav

[humble karma]

is it normal for a save file to be called serversettings.2700

[main mantle]

Dont think that's the save name @humble karma

[humble karma]

welp thats what i got sent

[main mantle]

Wait you dont have physical access to it?

[humble karma]

a friend sent it in a zip

[main mantle]

Give me a second

%LOCALAPPDATA%\FactoryGame\Saved\SaveGames{YOUR ID} or Windows username>\AppData\Local\FactoryGame\Saved\SaveGames{YOUR ID}

Unless its on a Linux server

[humble karma]

yup thats where i put it

[main mantle]

Same game version?

[humble karma]

believe so

[main mantle]

Can you send it over

I can see if it works

[humble karma]

yeah

[main mantle]

Dm me it if possible

So save would be named after what the world was named

[split prairie]

why some parts of the map remain "undiscovered" even after i was there?

[nocturne nebula]

I think height matters

is it super tall the area still black?

[wet shoal]

I hope you dont mean the holes

[split prairie]

not sure, there was this place i was exploring that maybe only 10% was revealed but when i was near the beach everything was revealing, now this other place im in some places reveal others not.

not sure if its tall or not, im not climbing anything i still only have blade runners and tractor for mobility

[wet shoal]

Else, not worth the trouble exploring the map like that, just put down radar towers after you get them. 100% map, easy

[split prairie]

u mean like the "empty" abysses?

[split prairie]

oh, didnt even new those existed. still on tier 3

[split prairie]

just roaming around trying to find more coal for steel and coal plants

[wet shoal]

Arent the 480 / min worth at the blue crater enough?

Given you use Mk2 miner

[naive pendant]

@split prairie The map reveals based on height when it’s the character moving. You can game it by climbing a huge ladder stack to reveal everything. Also the radius you reveal is larger the higher you are.

So the west side beach with the higher cliffs barely reveals if you’re walking on the lowground.

[oblique hound]

i keep running into the tiny limit for the size of the to do list, why hasnt it been upped yet

(yes i have already upvoted the QA posts)

[split prairie]

im strugglin a bit between having enough coal (only 2x at 120/m) to feed 8 coal plants and steel production to space elevator and milestones

[split prairie]

still dont have that, very slow production of steel stuff since i was using mk1 belts on coal and plants were using it all basically (or tractors fueling)

[split prairie]

mustve been that, i know theres something like a jetpack but im not sure how close im to that yet

[split prairie]

i did found 4x normal coal near-ish the base i just need to run back and get items for tractors and stations and set it up then i can make a factory for steel beams and pipes and the stuff for elevator will be produced faster and i can start doing steel related milestones

[cyan garnet]

Research dimensional depot in the MAM, will save you from having to go back and forth a whole bunch

[regal osprey]

why is there not an option to select my controller in the experimental branch?

[split prairie]

not sure whats going on here, i got a full mk2 belt (120 pm) of coal feeding a line 8 coal plants that use 15pm which is a total of 120 pm, but the two last coal plants are almost always out of fuel and my capacity is jumping up and down

and the first 3 have 100 coal on them, seems to be piling up in the front and lacking in the last 4 or so

[nocturne nebula]

whats a good ratio for an iron parts factory please?

some of my items I am automating for building are a lil on the slow side

[tepid palm]

That sounds like a manifold setup. Those take a while to get going. You can either wait it out or you can speed up the process by hand feeding a few of the plants to force a full inventory and get the coal on the belts to the later plants faster.

Because as you said, your first 3 coal power plants are at full capacity. That's going to happen, which means you're at the point now where you need to wait for the 4th plant to get to 100, then the 5th, and so forth.

I'm a fan of putting a few portable miners on the coal deposit and just throwing in 100 coal in the power plants to jumpstart it and skip the manifold waiting process.

[split prairie]

yeah i tought it could be something like that, i kinda remembered hearing about something like that in a vid. i disabled the first 3 plants and noticed the others ones started to pile up very slowly so i opted to just hand feed all the other ones and waited for the belt to fill up till the end and enabled the other ones again one by one, worked out in the end

[tepid palm]

Yep, it sounded like you did everything correctly but just needed to wait a little or hand feed some coal to speed things up

[wet shoal]

Well I hope you expand your steel-beam production enough to switch to MK3 completely, which is dirtcheap compared to reinforced plates based MK2

[split prairie]

i think this also happened because i didnt noticed that there were some mk1 belts in between the mk2 (its basically impossible to notice the difference from afar).

what threw me off was because the belt was coming full then at some points there were some gaps being created

[split prairie]

i was going to do it some hours ago but the power went out and i was kinda forced to make 4 extra bio mass gen to quickly fix it, then lost some time fixing this problem with the coal plants and few other stuff. now i got tired and will try to make those steel factories tomorrow

[latent prawn]

yeah, mk3 belts end up being considerably cheaper

and, um, 2 constructors making beams (30/min) is enough to handle building demands until you start needing the steel for other stuff as well

[shrewd palm]

the wire part of my control room i think is done

now i need to run all of the belts for everything through it

[turbid ledge]

Mk3 belts kinda just became my go to if i ever wanted to build to areas

[latent prawn]

yeah, one of the ways i mark game progression is when i switch the belt shortcut to mk+ belts, lol

[turbid ledge]

Everytime i go in the pink forest of doom and despair i just hate it more and more

I hate these spider looking things so much

[obtuse sable]

I loaded up my post-credits save and I have the Phase 1 objective of 50 smart plating on screen?

[heady night]

Mark 3 belts are literally goated

Cheap with an adequate speed

[turbid ledge]

I really only use mark 5 for screws wire and aluminum

Mainly cause steel gives me a TON of screws

Also i never seem to have enough wiring

[frail sleet]

I found mk.5 really easy to mass produce beyond any scarcity concern

mainly, i guess, because bauxite is unused until then - and by the time using a whole node or two is a problem, you're long-since using mk.6. I used like 1/3'rd of a node for belts and just never ran out again, even (it also fed the build gun with sheets, and everything with fluid tanks).

mk.2 and mk.4 i had a lot more issues with because of pressure on iron and coal which a bunch of other stuff wants, before during and after.

[turbid ledge]

I dont really like tier 4

Solely becuase the dimensional limit on encased beams just always seems to not be enough and i always need more after

I might just be going crazy

[frail sleet]

Bit of a pain ya. At this point i'd probably make a distant factory for encased beams and upload or transport them.

[frail sleet]

you can use more depots to upload faster

[spark ruin]

OR you could build a storage room

[turbid ledge]

Ah i kinda just maxed out upload speed and storage and hoped for the best

[turbid ledge]

Sadly i cannot

[frail sleet]

Problem with storage is that if you're not at the storage, and you spend all of your mats, you are sat there waiting for 120 or 240 per min and you can spend it in 10 seconds

[turbid ledge]

If i were to show you my storage it is beyond saving my storage at this point

[frail sleet]

Yeah, make 2-4 uploaders (make sure you're not belt bottlenecked) and see how it feels

[turbid ledge]

Usually i get one one industrial storage then fill it to the brim input those. Into the dimension

[spark ruin]

nah,
build a hypertube line from where you are building to your storage place
and then you can get all the mats you need in max 1 minute
what you just described was using the depots

[frail sleet]

it is annoying to do that for each material and manage inventory though when it's not neccesary

or sometimes to ship everything to a central place

[spark ruin]

you dont have to manage it
maybe im just old school
cuz thats what you'd always do before 1.0

[turbid ledge]

I kinda made my mining into a spider web of sorts

I usually go far out find bauxite or something then connect all the bauxite mines in the area to that line

Then make a really fast line to head back to the main area

[spark ruin]

so proffessional rescource exploiting ?
nice

[frail sleet]

If you build your belt minifactory 2km away then your belts aren't just going to magically teleport to storage or inventory. That's what depot does, it eliminates the most lengthly and annoying logistics step for stuff like this

[turbid ledge]

I morally refuse to undertstand trains and drones

[spark ruin]

unless you use drones 😉

[turbid ledge]

The most ive got is like a truck that sends all my extra turbo fuel to a ticket machine

Cause i dont want the system clogging up

[frail sleet]

mk.4 belts come often tens or hundreds of hours earlier than drones

[spark ruin]

True
But i don't want to have an argument so i'd say we should wrap up

[turbid ledge]

How good even are drones ive been hesitant on making them cause i dont know how fast they are to transport resources

Like i want to send one from the starter area to that death trap of a pink forest but idk how fast it would be

[boreal musk]

try drones in creative mode and see if it suits your taste

[inner charm]

i need help setting up my first tracktor i have a truck station and i need my modular frames to go somewhere else to go into a diffrent item but the truck station is not loading the frames into the truck anyone know?

[frail sleet]

they can quite easily move 1.5+ stacks per minute, often 3+, and maybe even 6+ if you put a drone on destination and source

it's also generally easy scale up via just building wider, you can always have 3 drones bring a material.

[reef basin]

Pre 1.0 you'd make a construction train

[frail sleet]

drones honestly feel a bit overpowered compared to trains

[true mulch]

They have quite low throughput

If they added throughput monitors on railways, you'd see how "OP" trains are

[frail sleet]

2 or 3 droneports can move 1200/min, which is the absolute max that a train cart can move (and in reality it's much more annoying to get there)

[pastel carbon]

It depends on the stack size actually

For 200 stack items, it's around there, but 200 stack items are also easier to transport by train as compared to 100 stack items

[frail sleet]

i was referring to 100 stack items

but yeah it does vary

[pastel carbon]

In that case it's more like 6 ports

Although it also depends on distance

[frail sleet]

It's not, not for short-medium distances at least

you can put a drone on the source and destination as a pair, and you have 2 drones running the route on one port.

which doubles throughput for free

i'm definitely getting much more than 4 stacks of 100/min per port from my latest project, i would estimate closer to 6 and possibly above 6

[pastel carbon]

Ah, if it's 2 drones, then yeah

Also, you usually use bigger trains than 1 cart

A 4 wagon train has insane throughput

[frail sleet]

Yeah, but for example

[pastel carbon]

Both drones and trains are good for their respective niches

Drones for low-medium throughput medium to long distance transportation that requires little effort to set up, trains for high throughput medium to long distance transportation

[frail sleet]

for collecting all of the bauxite from the middle of the map you need at least ~12 train carts, most would use 24, and you have to build a track going all of the way around and to each node.

You can do the same with 25 droneports (split per node, and 25 at destination)

[pastel carbon]

You can use drones to replace a high throughput train and trains to replave a drone, but it's not ideal either way

[pastel carbon]

Actually, if we follow your 400/min estimate, it's more like 30 drone ports

And I'd say 30 drone ports is a lot

[terse venture]

belt, drones, train .. last its a kind of art you like to play 🙂 all 3 ways are good

[pastel carbon]

Really only something you'd do if you hate trains

[frail sleet]

close can do 600, far 400

[frail sleet]

It is, but having 24 train carts for bauxite is also annoying and leads to your train being 500m long

[pastel carbon]

Or you can just have multiple trains

[frail sleet]

multiple trains on independant tracks (or they are messing up eachothers throughput)

[pastel carbon]

In fact, it's better to have multiple 1-4 trains servicing all the nodes than a single 1-12 train

[pastel carbon]

A dual track train network is so high throughput that you need a lot of trains for them to start interfering meaningfully with each other

[terse venture]

i have a train to bring 2 parts to nuclear plant and one train to bring coal .. everything else comes over belts and pipes ~60 ones in the base .p no drone is flying ^^

[frail sleet]

If you want to extract 1200/min from your carts, you need quite specific trip times and cannot just throw them on a shared loop. So you end up at a lower number like 600 that you can easily guarantee instead, which is no higher than a droneport.

[golden nexus]

If you do that you might as well not use trains and run belts

[pseudo turret]

what is your experience with fuel power is it worth it?

[terse venture]

ya fuel power is easiest

[pastel carbon]

Or you can just have more trains

1200/min is definitely tricky, so running a train or more is preferable

[pseudo turret]

okay

[frail sleet]

Yes you can put 5 different traintracks next to eachother. But it's bad, complex, takes forever to set up etc.

[terse venture]

turbofuel if researched is more better .)

[golden nexus]

Its also extremly poor use of trains tbh

[pastel carbon]

It's complex to set up a dual track train network?

[pseudo turret]

yeah for fuel power?

[pastel carbon]

It seems like you just hate trains lol

[frail sleet]

It's complex to set up a train network where you can always deliver 1200/min/cart despite sharing it with other trains.

[pastel carbon]

You don't need to

Just have more trains doing something smaller like 800/min or 1000/min

[terse venture]

ya, power plant need only half than .. 7,5 instead 15

[golden nexus]

No.. you get a train 4 long and put 300/min in each cart

[frail sleet]

I was already talking about a dual track network, and you told me to add trains, so i assume you were talking about 3+. And yes, i also said that. Use a lower number like 600/min/cart.

The problem at that point is that 600/min/cart is the same as a droneport throughput, so you get all of the train disadvantages and long build time without actually any better throughput.

[pastel carbon]

Trains aren't particularly expensive, especially compared to drones

[pseudo turret]

okay so you would recoment that i get turbofuel for my powerplant

[pastel carbon]

Except you're still not looking at longer trains

A 1-4 train with 600/min is 2400/min

[frail sleet]

I am, 24x600/min instead of 12x1200

[glossy umbra]

yo guys i just wanted to ask if someone from yall got cool design for fuel generators (inspiration not gonna copy)

[pastel carbon]

Often you can run them higher at like 750 or 800 or even 900, which gives you like 3200/min

[terse venture]

first build the normal version and let some space between the fuel refinerie and the power plants, you later only need a raffenerie to make turbo from normal oil ..

[pastel carbon]

And that's a lot of throughput for a single 1-4 train

[terse venture]

and than you can double the power generastors

[frail sleet]

You can make trains or drones for 100,000/min. I measure the throughput per cart or per droneport.

[pseudo turret]

okay so i found this giant oil deposit in the desert should i use that for power or plastic?

[pastel carbon]

I'm rather confused what metric you're trying to measure and why you're so particular about per wagon / drone throughput

[terse venture]

if you take a metalpipe and hit in in your nose, there is 0/min for liquid .p

[golden nexus]

Trains have 32 slots. So stacking 100 and 300/min for ore for example means you get up to 10.6 minutes round trip time per wagon.

[pastel carbon]

If you don't like trains and rails, you can just count that as infinite effort and not use them

[frail sleet]

The metric that i am working with is: How much stuff do you have to make to move 15,000 of X from A to B

and even more particularly, from A1+A2+A3+A4+A5+A6+A7+A8 to B

[pastel carbon]

I'd consider the rails to be much more important effort wise than the wagon

[pseudo turret]

okayXD ty mate

[terse venture]

have fun

[pastel carbon]

Adding an extra train or wagon is easy, constructing the rail is the long part

[pseudo turret]

ty you too

thx alort

also just calculated how many coal deposits for 144.000 MW

[golden nexus]

YUp. Trains.. you can get like one train every 15 seconds if they are 4 long. This means 4x32stackx100orex4perminute = 51,200/min 😛

[glossy umbra]

any idea for fuel generator design ?

[frail sleet]

Trains.. you can get like one train every 15 seconds if they are 4 long. This means 4x32stackx100orex4perminute = 51,200/min

You cannot, because the unload time is 28 seconds and locks the freight platform.

[golden nexus]

You fail to understand the statement correctly....

[pseudo turret]

sry havent gotten there entirly

[glossy umbra]

💔

[pseudo turret]

ye

[glossy umbra]

i gotta build 144 fuel gens but i need inspiration for design

[pastel carbon]

I think that ultimately, every transportation method gets stuff from A to B and it's up to you what you want to use since each have their own strengths

If we want to be super technical, a belt takes zero power and very little space and has reliable throughput

[frail sleet]

Yeah, i would argue though that the strength of the train is supposed to be throughput, and that it doesn't meet that strength in reality because it's undertuned and has issues like locking platforms which alternatives such as belts and drones do not have. It's much easier and faster to belt or drone from A to B and delivers more stuff as well.

[pastel carbon]

But well, we have other transportation methods because not everyone wants to drag belts everywhere

[terse venture]

we need a Zeppelin out of spiderfabric, filled with methan gas and transport 10x a train in 5th of the time .p

[pastel carbon]

Trains have a really high throughput ceiling

It's just that you usually don't make use of it

[frail sleet]

I pretty much exclusively use trains at the throughput ceiling (1200/min/cart)

[pseudo turret]

but if you wanna go for coal generators then just find 24 pure coal deposits that should be enough for 144.000 MW

[golden nexus]

Drone are aweful for thoughput over distance. In many cases drones per port won't get more than about 300/min for mid distance hauls.

[frail sleet]

but have been questioning if it's even worth it at that, because they require so much time and space to set up properly and drones are doing 600 each anyway or belts do 1200 in a much smaller space.

[pseudo turret]

and then have 1980 coal generators

[golden nexus]

its not and your using them wrong and completly mis-understand them

[frail sleet]

You get double that if you put a drone on destination and source

[pastel carbon]

1800 items / min per platform is an impressive amount of items, and you can hit it pretty easily with doubled trains

Just like with your doubled drones example

[golden nexus]

Yes... Which doubles fuel usage... so to get 1200/min you need at least 4 drone ports for short/medium distances. Which is hard on fuel

[terse venture]

later coal is more needed for other i think, use oil for power is better most time

[pastel carbon]

A single train platform gets you 1800 items / min, do that 4 platforms and that's 7200 items / min

You just need 2 stations and 4, maybe 5, 1-4 trains to transport all the bauxite in the world

[frail sleet]

It takes 5 fuel per min per droneport.

A single train platform gets you 1800 items / min

The hard cap is actually below 1300/min IIRC?

[golden nexus]

In terms of trains its trival to shift 1200/min of an item full length of the map realiably. using double track you can shift approx 50,000/min is the track thoughput

[frail sleet]

How do you get 1800 when the freight platform is locked

[true mulch]

what stack size though

[pastel carbon]

The hard cap for 100 stack items is 1793/min

[frail sleet]

100

[golden nexus]

You have two connectors.... so its capable of 2400/min - lock time

[pastel carbon]

That's for constant unloading between 27.8s load / unload time

Basically, you have 27.8s load / unload time, then you have 2400/min unloading 3200 items in 80s, which means 3200 items in 107.8s, thus 3200/107.8 × 60 = 1793/min

[golden nexus]

This is also why you don't put 1200/min in a single wagon. Your better to spread 1200/min over 4 wagons. Then spread nodes across multiples trains like 4-8 long. Which is of course based on distance. It also means you have trains doing specific loops and not stopping in multiple places

[pastel carbon]

48 wide?

I'm confused as to what you're trying to say

[terse venture]

this math spam has another channel ?!

[pastel carbon]

^

This is the maths behind 1793/min

[rotund vigil]

This is why you tell your kids to do Meth instead of Math

[frail sleet]

maybe correct

[golden nexus]

But the other key thing here is you don't really want to grab all the resources and bring them to one place when you consider things being efficent. You want to bring resources which are close together. Build something usful and then ship a high value item to the final place. This actually means you eliminate the thoughput issues nearly completly to the point where you can have one train with 2-4 wagon run around and pickup nearly every item produced...

[pastel carbon]

The wiki has calculations for max throughput of trains per wagon for both mk5 and mk6 belts and all stack sizes

[rotund vigil]

The closest we will get to someone in discord saying "I was wrong, i stand corrected"

[frail sleet]

it's an "i found an inconsistency somewhere and don't have time to validate which is wrong when 4 people are trying to hold seperate conversations with me" 😛

[terse venture]

@golden nexusdepend on the use .. if you have a big facotry, some inputs lag and this ressources you cannot use in other factories. your plan is only good when all machines run 100% all time and everytime.

else you wast much ressources

[golden nexus]

Also.. fluids enter the chat 😛 #screenshots message

[frail sleet]

this is also non negligable > "Attached Freight Platforms draw 50 MW each"

[pastel carbon]

The freight platforms actually only draw 50MW power when in use

It's 0.1 MW otherwise

[golden nexus]

and a drone port uses 100MW whats your point?

[frail sleet]

ye it is like 10% of the power of drones (before counting locomotive power)

[pastel carbon]

Which means trains overall use a lot less power than drones, which are very power expensive

[frail sleet]

just not zero

[pastel carbon]

Of course, we can also say that belts use zero power lol

[frail sleet]

with 1.1 it's a lot easier to just belt stuff en masse than it is to make trains and that saddens me

[pastel carbon]

I'd say that if you're willing to spam drone ports, it's certainly not a bad strategy, and I agree that drones are great even for medium throughput

But for really high throughput, like 7200/min, I think I prefer a pair of 1-4 stations and 2 to 3 trains over 12 drone ports and 24 drones

[frail sleet]

more like 5 trains, but maybe

that is what i initially went with

[pastel carbon]

Certainly understandable to prefer 12 or more drone ports though, if that's your thing

[frail sleet]

The part that hung me up was how annoying it was to guarantee >1200/min/cart and then building some drones for something else assuming that they would get like 225/min, and having them actually bring 680 across the same distance

because i accidentally made 2 drones

and it doubled throughput (which isn't on the wiki btw)

so i wanted 600 of something, i built 3 droneports to do it, and now 4/6 of the drones are perma circling because the resource is already full from just one droneport

[pastel carbon]

Personally I love trains, so I'll use them regardless

Although I like drones too, I have drone ports moving aluminium ingots and diamonds across the whole map

[frail sleet]

I think at minimum the resource locking is a problem. It's very easy to kill your throughput from that potential 1700 down to 1000 or less by having trains arrive too often, which feels backwards. We should be able to load without locking, or at minimum limit them to prevent this ruining throughput

[pastel carbon]

Well, you can

Set to full load / unload

[frail sleet]

that works for that?

[pastel carbon]

The train will only load / unload full loads then and guarantee max throughput if you have more than needed

Yeah

[frail sleet]

awesome then, 1 less issue, ty

[pastel carbon]

Doesn't work well with mixed trains, but works well with single resource trains

It would be nice if they allowed you to full load / unload per wagon or something

[frail sleet]

Uh, if it doesn't do that, how does it work? And wouldn't that stop it from working correctly

the setting will only let the train go if every wagon is full?

cause that would work

[pastel carbon]

I don't remember the specifics, but I think it's basically that

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/61aa68cb831c852052363e70

[sterile blade]

Just use single-car trains and using that setting gets so easy and intuitive!

[lapis crest]

Is there a way to see how much of a product im producing to see if production goes up through optimization or do i just have to go look at the singular machines producing and try to get them as close to 100% effeciency?

[sterile blade]

The power graph (when properly set up ofc) is the simplest tool to monitor machines remotely

Eg: factory you want to monitor is on circuit A. Whenever circuit A shows something different from a flat power draw, you know there's efficiency issues
(ofc, this is assuming you took care in making sure to not connect anything needing variable power to circuit A)

[spark ruin]

I used storage boxes as a train substitute

[reef basin]

storage boxes don't deliver construction materials to construction site 🙂

[sterile blade]

They do, if you move them using SCIM

[spark ruin]

I do think trains are better than drones
My only problem with trains is that they are way more annoying to set up than drones

[spark ruin]

Yeah, i never much cared

I could just transfer stuff to it from my inventory

[reef basin]

the point of construction train was to transfer stuff TO your inventory

[sterile blade]

Note: rail placement has become less annoying after 1.1 thanks to autoconnect and more flexible placements

[spark ruin]

Drone's are still easier for lazy people like me

Though i more often just use a conveyor bus

[sterile blade]

Autoconnect has made those easier to do too...

[reef basin]

busses are horrible in SF

[sterile blade]

Sushi is great in SF

[spark ruin]

cant agree more bro

[frozen ingot]

thanks for reminding me of what popped into my head last night 😆

[spark ruin]

I built like a 10KM long belt highway this week

[frozen ingot]

was going to try sushi belt again for manufacturer, using the new priority merger for the loopback

[reef basin]

belt highway =/= bus

[spark ruin]

Only took an hour or so...

[frozen ingot]

10km belt highway 😮

[spark ruin]

I think they are useless

[sterile blade]

I usually encourage against solutions using loopbacks 😅
While it may sound intuitive to use them, they usually lead to issues unless one really knows what they're doing ^^

[frozen ingot]

i can't imagine wanting to switch to sushi belts but i do want to try them again for the look of the thing, just curious

[spark ruin]

Just a round trip through the entire red forest to get materials

[sterile blade]

"They"?

[golden nexus]

there is a few sensible use cases like if you making motor and you put stator, rotor on the same belt which can then be selectivly upgrade to motor.. its low volumn input and low volumn output

[spark ruin]

Sushi belts ?

[sterile blade]

Like most things in the game, they're very user-dependant

[spark ruin]

UNLESS you use it for sorting at a storage room
There its really convenient

[leaden turret]

they depend on the user being a weird person 😛

[golden nexus]

butl ike sushi belt with screws, quickwire are 100% a nope

[sterile blade]

Just remember to manage overflow properly whenever mixing items. It's as simple as that
Ie: "the sushi must keep flowing"

[frozen ingot]

just want to have a play

wasn't there a user here who always advocated sushi belts. Sevrahn? think they got banned, or they just left, idk

[sterile blade]

He was pretty vocal about it and surely around more often than me for a time

[spark ruin]

I think it'd be nightmare to use a sushi belt as input for machines
What will you do if one resource gets backed up ?

[sterile blade]

You cry for having failed at the SushiBelt class

[oblique aspen]

the easy answer is to use overflows

[golden nexus]

You don't you always need a sink at the end... its also extremly easy to overflow a belt.. which is why you use them in low thoughput cases only.. eg your unlikly to just accidently build 600 stator/min with 600 rotor/min on the same belt 😛

[spark ruin]

And if you can, is it worth not just using another belt ?

[sterile blade]

Nightmare expansion: someone made a whole nuclear factory based on that "feed sushi to machines" idea... Go figure 🤷‍♂️

[sterile blade]

Funfact: Excluding Uranium Cells, all items needed for a 50.4 Uranium Fuel Units/min production (using all uranium on map) fit on a single MK3 belt~

Some recipes are pretty much begging to be sushied, at any scale (assuming one likes to minimize beltwork and such)

[golden nexus]

lots of recipies are like this

[sterile blade]

Eh, I wouldn't say "lots", but there's a few

[frozen ingot]

yeah low throughput is key i would imagine

like if you're using a mk4 belt and you're trying to put near 480/min items on the belt it probably wno't work

[spark ruin]

Still don't get why you wouldn't just use another belt...

[frozen ingot]

the main thing for me with sushi is the look of it, it's more compact and looks neater and is kinda fun for that

[spark ruin]

Its way easier then messing with overflow then mixing it

[sterile blade]

Looks, space needs, challenge... Reasons like that

[golden nexus]

there are practicle uses in some situations like if you put rplate, stator, rotor on the same belt. You can change between building smart plate and motors

[frozen ingot]

as Hillary said, "because it was there" 😛

not quite the best analogy but sometimes when a game allows for something, that's reason enough 😄

[golden nexus]

So you can abuse them in odd ways. People rarly do.. as i said its has a few isolated cases where it makes sense

[spark ruin]

Wouldn't having to sink the overflow use more space than just adding the other belts* ?

[spark ruin]

The other 2 i can understand

[sterile blade]

Depending on the setup, no.
Stacks of 4 belts reduced to one cut down quite decently on space and the overflow management can be just "add one merger to the output of the machines" (reminder that the overflow can be handled anywhere you have a sink, including your storage area if you already have some set up there)

Most of the time, that is how I manage overflows: just merge it with the output of that production line/factory. No need to add more belts or sinks to handle it by itself, most of the time

[sterile blade]

Ngl, anytime someone asks "why sushi", my mind snaps back to: https://youtu.be/RoL8cB_4ev8 ❤️

[frozen ingot]

wow...

thanks for linking, what a great video! nice music too, added it to a playlist

[sterile blade]

~~Too bad I can't make any more recordings of that, with the new photo mode and all... ~~

[woeful crag]

anyone know what the common reasons for Could not resolve online session between epic and steam

(trying to join steam from epic)

[sterile blade]

Have you tried looking that up in #1038092680493801533? Sounds like something that could have already been answered

[woeful crag]

yes

making a post

any ideas though?

havent had problems like this before

[terse venture]

i like it make new big industiry and see that one input is wrong and its easier to delete 3 hours work and rebuild than search and delete 100th of belts 😦

need a switch like pipleine " delete all wares"

[frosty herald]

Hellow guys i just need a little help

can anyone send me the main menu video clip of satisfactory

[viscid crest]

Is the Standard steel beam recipe or the alternate one better?

[golden nexus]

which alternative

[ruby gyro]

All personal preferences

[golden nexus]

it also depends what your goal is downstream

[viscid crest]

Well automate steel beams for future recipes

[golden nexus]

so how many do you need?

[green fiber]

Aluminum Beam my beloved

[viscid crest]

Idk I make a Layout for my factories that I can always expand

[silent anchor]

I like using sushi if I move low throughput stuff in the same direction (Low as in will easily fit on one belt). Sure you need an overflow, but I like having overflow sinks anyway. After all shoving overflow into a sink is basically free coupons. Plus it's neat to have never ending production. I concider the main advantage having to place less belts. I mean there's no reason to bother making 2 belts if 1 has more than enough speed to the sushi you shove on it.

[golden nexus]

So basically your trying to ask a question of "what best for me" when you don't even know what you need yet and nobody is aware of what you currently have or direction your heading in 😉

[viscid crest]

And currently I need it for steel screws, versatile frameworks,

And im not Sure about future recipees

[silent anchor]

One of the 'truly' better alts is the ingot alt using iron ingots to make steel (uses 50% less coal and iron I belive). You may also concider using the pipe alt for encased as it uses less mats i belive. In many cases the question is more what do you have avaliable and what do you want to bother to use/get as inputs.

[reef basin]

no recipe is strictly better, they are always a tradeoff

pick any that you like

[sterile blade]

The what now?
What are you referring to?

[green fiber]

Its not truly better, its just "easily used". You dont need other alts to benefit from it

The base recipe offers simplicity, while the alt offers you a lot of iron efficiencies if you use iron ingot alts

[red sun]

they're all situational

[green fiber]

Solid Steel is easily used and theres not many situations where it cannot be easily used. That makes it seem like an obvious improvement.
All it demands is some slightly more demanding setup due to needing smelters

(or other machines for making ingots)

[silent anchor]

Yeah on the iron end you can go pure iron to up that iron efficiency even more. That's part of why i like it, as I like going pure anyway. The other alts, i belive are less of an improvement because they need other stuff. I say 'truly' because there's probably people that like using other alts and the 'viability' of those also depends on having the right stuff avaliable. How viable depends on location and the logistics a player is willing/planning to make.

[green fiber]

They are more demanding and situational

Solid steel is a "Generalist", the others are "Specialists"

Generalists are easily used and have immediate benefits.

Specialists offer more specific things, but require more specific setup to use them

Coke Steel is obvious. It needs coke , aka oil

Compacted needs you to unlock Compacted coal first and then you need to make it and set up a LOT of foundries.

But its quite efficient with coal and iron

Solid Steel, most obiously, trades space for efficiency.
In the space you need for all the foundries and smelters, you could have just put down foundries and used the base recipe

[silent anchor]

Yeah there's one using coke. Useful if you have coke byproduct anyway and Iron nearby.

[green fiber]

thats what makes it a specialist

[silent anchor]

Yeah I tend to like pure alts. because they get me more out of my nodes. Makes the nodes last for more production. Sure it uses more power, but that is the easiest to transport.

[green fiber]

Most of the time when people refer to an alt as "better" its usually just the case that its a generalist.

Pure recipes are specialists

But water is seen "free" to some so that skews it a bit

But the refineries kinda keep it there anyway

[silent anchor]

Yeah the alt system makes a pretty god job at not making anything truly the best.

[sacred mountain]

guys, why does my train station not load the items ive connected?

[silent anchor]

Is the station (the segment that's supposed to load the wagon) set to load? Is the train set to get the item from said station?

[sacred mountain]

juts found out i had to replace them

[sturdy dawn]

hey guys. i hope you had nice days. i just want to complain a bit. just did alu stuff but greatly underestimated the amount of cases needed. so i now have to process another 600 belt bauxite

[keen pike]

im trying to get back to satisfactory for the 1.1 experimental run and since ive kept watching 'ImKibitz' on youtube, i heard him say that he calculated everything from the beginning of his run...

so now im curious, is it possible to use some kind of a tool to calculate every single product needed to make and so on? if so, does that tool tell where is the best place to build something and does it calculate from the beginning to the absolute end?

[white dawn]

Tools like https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production can be used to solve factory chains, though if you put literally everything in there, the graph will be a mess

It's more likely that they solved production chains individually

If they do "centralized" builds, they'd be able to sort of sum up all the various components

[keen pike]

well what about if i actually want to make an absolute plan of my gameplay (which factories to build in what scales) and i eventually run out of resources?

[white dawn]

If they go for more of an Independency route (each factory makes everything it needs right onsite) then the individual factory chains would just be each layout

[white dawn]

There are far more resources on the map than most people realize

It's not impossible to exhaust a resource, but in general you have to be specifically trying to do so

[sturdy dawn]

where 6k copper? (for powder for 10 pasta per minute)

[white dawn]

The only real exception is that Ficsonium production really eats away at SAM; someone doing Big Nuclear with the full chain could end up running quite low on SAM

[white dawn]

Probably can't find it all in one spot. Time for logistics!

[keen pike]

i would assume if you actually manage to run out of resources, theres always the tier 9 thingy that transforms other resources into the needed ones

[white dawn]

Honestly anyone literally running out of resources has probably already involved resource conversion into their plans

Really, there is a lot of material on the map

But yeah, if you've got the spare SAM then you could use it to supplement

I would be surprised if the average player consumes more than like 20-30% of the resources on the map, though

[keen pike]

wait so, its impossible to calculate and pre-plan everything needed for a smooth run?
i would really love to use my brain now at the max capacity, and then just sit back and relax building the factories

[white dawn]

Anyway, it certainly is possible to plan things out en masse if you want. I ended up planning out a lot of my Phase 4+5 stuff all in one chunk

[white dawn]

As I say, you can use sites like sftools.com to solve factory chains for you

I'd recommend doing it in chunks rather than all at once, otherwise the graphs will be a nightmare

But it's certainly possible, if that's what you want to do

[sturdy dawn]

the average player quits after phase 3 (steam stats) so it is likely that they not even use 10% ^^

[white dawn]

Heh, there's that too. :D

[keen pike]

hmmm, what about if i dont understand anything that there is on those sites 🤣
has anyone made a calculation already and then posted it somewhere?

maybe i could use that

[white dawn]

sftools is easy: choose the resource you want to make, choose how quickly you want to make it. Done!

You can tweak which recipes are available to the solver, or the resources available, and the graph will update as you make changes

[keen pike]

well thats the problem, what if im going to need that same resource in bigger scale for example in the mid game
am i supposed to just make the same setup again?

[white dawn]

Also even if someone did post some kind of every-product-in-the-game factory design, that doesn't mean that you want to produce everything at those rates, or with the recipes they chose, or in the same build locations

[keen pike]

i would very much like that

😄

[white dawn]

That is, indeed, how I tend to recommend it. See https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency for some more info on that strategy

Independency is, IMO, far easier than the kind of centralization you're talking about

But if you do want to centralize, you could still solve for the individual components and then, as I say, sum up the various components to find out how much you'll need overall

What you're trying to do is necessarily going to require a lot of planning and work upfront; there's no real getting around that

But since you said that's exactly what you want to do, that shouldn't be too much of a problem, eh? :)

Get your brain going at the max capacity you mentioned. :)

[keen pike]

yeah, just gotta drink a couple cup of coffee and pull a couple all nighters

isnt that big of a problem

😉

[shrewd palm]

the throuput monitors in 1.1 only work on belts, right?

[white dawn]

#satisfactory-experimental , but yes. :)

[shrewd palm]

darn

petition to give mk6 lifts a hole to see the items somewhere

[fossil ice]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @white dawn

[white dawn]

^ Feature requests are best submitted to that site, btw! :)

[shrewd palm]

ty

[red sun]

@dull cloak #fan-art message
can't wait for A Satisfactory Movie featuring jack black as ada

[shrewd palm]

just gonna have to use mods for now ig

[dull cloak]

featuring Chris Pratt as the pioneer

[digital depot]

on a regular playtrough nothing special ,.. how much Caterium Barrs are actually a god ammount to have available

i plan to collect Catrium to a plant process with water and distibute to where it´s needed ,.. but just takinf the pure nodes would lead to 350 refinneries prducin 4500 Cat Bar

[frozen ingot]

probably overkill by most standards but if you want to... 😄

[digital depot]

thats why i asked whats actually a good ammount

i felt like overkill as well ,..

[frozen ingot]

no such number, it's personal

you won't know until you decide how many items/min to make of parts that need caterium

[digital depot]

hmmmm okay ,.. thx for your answer 😄

[frozen ingot]

would recommend picking your arbitrary numbers for higher level items rather than ingots

[keen pike]

according to satisfactory calculator website, the max amount of copper you can get (without using convertors, using mk3 fully overclocked miners) is 36,900 / min

so thats fun

[shrewd palm]

a 600/min node is probably gonna be all you'll ever need for "basic" resources to use. If you need more than that for other stuff its up to you

[proper hound]

Unless you are maxing the map, I personally recommend avoiding all the pure recipes due to extreme sizes and energy needed. Basic smelters are fine 99% of the time. Copper alloy for copper, and thats it.

[digital depot]

actually got 1 RF Plant running gaining me 300 GW ^^ Energy isnt a Problem at all

but thx Guys for your Opinion ,.. i Guess i will Process 3 Pure Nodes with the Water alt ,.. should be fine

[latent prawn]

i tend to agree that the pure recipes often end up being cumbersome. for caterium though, the pure recipe is about all you have for increasing yield. pure copper has a place, but you'll be hard pressed to need the extra yield from it unless you are trying to make tons of pasta. pure iron is weird. i think its proper use-case is to get a second mk5 belt out of 1200/ore after you use smelters for the first 780

[digital depot]

MK3 Miner
2x Iron 1200
1x Copper 600

gain in Smelter 4500 Iron Ignots 😄

[latent prawn]

yeah, iron alloy is kind of really good 😉

[frozen ingot]

arguably slightly more cumbersome than vanilla ingots but with blueprints it's really no big deal for significant yield increase, imho

[latent prawn]

by cumbersome, i was being nice. the pure recipes aren't very good

[sturdy dawn]

how to make 10 pasta per min without needing 6k copper?

[latent prawn]

copper alloy is your freind

[golden nexus]

sloops... sloops everywhere

[sturdy dawn]

that are both good ideas ty

[latent prawn]

for pasta, the copper is the easy part. copper powder just takes a free normal iron & copper node. the hard part is making the PCC's

[golden nexus]

you use both of them eg you do copper alloy sharded to 250% with a sloop... so the default 100/min output in a foundry goes to 250/min * 2 when slooped = 500/min... then feed that to constructors to make powder @ 250% * 2 etc.. etc...this will overall reduce your copper requirements by 4x...

However.. if you shard the whole production line as much as possible expect it to cost you about 100GW 😛

[sturdy dawn]

amazing so i can build a power plant before 😄

[sturdy dawn]

really? before you approach pasta you have mass production of the components of it anyways 🤔 (molten frame and rcu)

[latent prawn]

yeah, pcc's are pretty challenging though. fmf's take a lot of aluminum and then hmf's are hmf's

[thin narwhal]

Early game should I worry about efficency or just make it work

[sturdy dawn]

make it work

[golden nexus]

both

[grizzled lotus]

how liberal should I be about using power slugs for power shards?

[red sun]

there's more than enough power slugs to go around, your main worry with using them should be your power consumption imo

it's more power-efficient to use more underclocked machines than fewer overclocked ones

power slugs aren't used for anything other than power shards anyway, unless you choose to collect them

[proper hound]

caterium actually has 3 alt recipes, two in refinery and one in foundry. The foundry one happens to have very similar energy requirements while increasing yields. The one with acid has best caterium ore to ingot ratio, and pure recipe has worst energy requirements while having worse conversion ratio than the acid one. Energy will translate directly into actual build size, since refinery is approx 4 times the smelter.
In numbers, 600 ore to 200 ingots requires 13.(3) smelters. With pure alt you need 25 refineries to make 600 ore into 300 ingots. 100 ingot increase for twice the buildings, 5-6 times the build area, and extra 696.68 MW energy expenditure (excluding water extractors). Just sloop some smelters 😂 . Or find another node, energy cost would justify running a new train line just for it.

[proper hound]

That depends.
Do you like the slugs as decor/part of the map, or just treat them as resource?
If you want to keep them on map for looks, you can doggo farm some slugs to turn into power shards.
In very late game, you will be able to obtain power shards without killing slugs, if you have humanitarian reasons.

[latent prawn]

'sloop the smelters' is about the worst use of a much more limited resource i've ever heard suggested

none of this all really matters until your factory has grown to the point where map limits start coming into play. when that does happen however, sloops have better uses

[grizzled lotus]

not picking up slugs for the aesthetics is not something I considered. still considering it also

when I heard that advice about not using up too many power slugs I thought they were a finite resource that could be used for something better later in the game

[turbid ledge]

Ive always found sliding then jumping on conveyor belts to be favorite form of transport

I love watching my character get LAUNCHED

[glossy venture]

Having a visual issue if anyone can help me out. So.. Its kinda like right infront of me is a sort of.. Line, and shadows dont start properly being drawn until i get things inside of said line. But the line is like.. 5 feet infront of me? I have basically every setting on max, so I dont know what causes it. But its super distracting.
I made a post in questions an help a few weeks ago maybe, and never got a response. Hoping someone here knows the answer lol

[buoyant anvil]

So, did SatisfactoryGame Reddit just go away for anyone else? Seems all subReddits are just showing banners, but no content.

[leaden turret]

it's stil lthere for me

[buoyant anvil]

Yeah, just came back for me, now, too. Glitch in the matrix.

[lime ermine]

I'm moving to fuel gens from nuclear until I get fixonium

[grizzled lotus]

How do you slide?

[lime ermine]

C while sprinting

[sharp geode]

because of too much* satisfactory i've started trying to slide jump in other games now where it does nothing

[elfin pagoda]

If I'm not supposed to eat the turbofuel then why did they make it look so yummy??

[hearty horizon]

Hello, is there official support via email or a ticket system for Satisfactory?

[sharp geode]

no, you can post it on the qa site but an official response or support is like hoping they find the specific grain of sand you left on a beach

[hearty horizon]

Does Coffee Stain not have an official email address?

[thorny valley]

How does one make a pipe manifold

[shrewd palm]

the same as with a belt manifold

[thorny valley]

False

[shrewd palm]

thats how ive been doing it and it works just fine

[thorny valley]

Because I've done that, it works just not properly

[shrewd palm]

remember to prefill the machines

[sharp geode]

one is listed on their website but that's really not going to be a game support link

[reef basin]

not for game support

what is your query?

[thorn canyon]

hello

[peak wasp]

hi

[hearty horizon]

I accidentally deleted my game session today and wanted to ask Coffee Stain if there are any cloud backups available because I can't restore it 😦

[thorn canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/h3-h3h3-h3after-dark-chiropractor-gif-22948198

[thorn canyon]

are you furry?

me too

[shrewd palm]

what

[thorn canyon]

😊

picku materinu

ta mou klasis ta arxidia vlaka

[shrewd palm]

cursing strangers is insane work ngl

[reef basin]

coffee stain don't provide cloud backups. It's on either Steam or Epic, whichever you use, if it's not there, you're out of luck (can try some windows file recovery or whatever)

[hearty horizon]

I know

[heavy marsh]

Were Conveyor Wall Holes temporarily removed from exp branch? I dont have them in my buildable menu anymore and I cant even sample/copy the existing ones I still have.

[reef basin]

then you know that CSS will have nothing to tell you other than what I just told you 🤷

[steady dome]

Probably better off asking in #satisfactory-experimental

[hearty horizon]

Well, I wanted to try it because no matter what I do, the save files are just gone. I still have a save from the experimental version, but I can't get it into the regular game, and since I'm using mods, I can't continue playing in the experimental version either.

[reef basin]

sure, but they have literally 0 access to any of your save files

so asking them is pointless

[proper hound]

They are semi-finite resource - once you pick all from map, the only ingame way is lizard doggo lottery.
With tier 9, power shards can be made without slugs, if you need more, so sharding everything is a valid option.

[hearty horizon]

Is there any way to convert the experimental save game into a normal save game?

[ruby gyro]

does it matter if i use block signals or path signals on my straight sections?

[shrewd palm]

not really but you should use block signals

[ruby gyro]

ty, is there a reason why i should use block signals then?

just curious

[shrewd palm]

i think path signals let trains reserve the block in front of it as well as letting trains run through intersections if there is another train inside, which block signals dont do

block signals just break the track up into blocks and ig would make it run smoother than path signals

[obtuse sable]

I've got about 100 coupons to go before the golden nut trophy and I don't know what to do beyond letting the game run overnight.

[steady dome]

No. but there is a way to play without mods

[hearty horizon]

No, not if you have used mods in the game and then load the save without mods, half of the buildings are missing and so on, that doesn't work

[hearty horizon]

Trains cannot run and so on

[steady dome]

In that case; All I can say is a sour reminder to backup your save files before changing to experimental 🤷

[hearty horizon]

It was until I accidentally deleted it 😦

[steady dome]

The regular save and the backup? Sounds like you should perhaps back them up elsewhere

[hearty horizon]

Next time I make a backup of the backup

[grizzled lotus]

so just to confirm, there's no other use for slugs, only for power shards

[keen otter]

is 375 packaged turbo fuel good for mid game?

[proper hound]

You need total 1 of each to unlock mam research. beyond that, the only use is decor or shards.

[turbid ledge]

Guy

I kinda wish there was a way to automate bio fuel

[red sun]

the whole point of biofuel is that it's not automatable :)

[terse venture]

theoretical, wait 100 mio years and the wood is new oil ;D

someone tried a greengame only use power from gisyrs ? :;D

[silent anchor]

Power use depends on user. So it's more subjective. The best to do is just leave space to expand if you need more.

[keen otter]

I already have a turbo fuel powerplant providing A lot of power. I am using the packaged turbofuel for drones and trucks

[scenic socket]

I have 8 or 9 ish belts with 620 going on them and need to turn that into 7 belts of 780. Is that doable using a balancer?

[steady dome]

Or rather; Just build a new factory when your need changes

[silent anchor]

If you have new stuff that would allow for better builds sure. Either way leaving space for new stuff/expansions is always a good idea.

[steady dome]

I disagree. There's never a reason to not finish a factory and build a new one when your demand increases.
There's no sense of accomplishment in a factory that has space "in case you need it later" as opposed to one that's actually finished

[nocturne nebula]

hellooooooo blueprints!

[digital holly]

How to connect from a Steam platform to an Epic Game from my friend?

[nocturne nebula]

took me almost 15 hours to get there, lol

[digital holly]

The session code looks like it isn't working

My steam session is connected to Epic to

(Accounts linked)

[steady dome]

Did you or your friend by chance start the session as "Single Player"?

[shrewd palm]

i think you just need to make sure that the session is on "Epic" and it should work

been a little bit since i tried to play with someone on epic tho

[burnt hound]

i like play satisfactory

[turbid ledge]

I dont think i have ever used a blueprint

[shrewd palm]

you absolutely should

[turbid ledge]

Although i guess that would explain why my factory looks like i smoke crack

[shrewd palm]

they can still look like that with blueprints

they just make building/unbuilding easier

[turbid ledge]

Ah

Are you able to place foundations in them?

[shrewd palm]

everything except miners and vehicles as far as i know

[turbid ledge]

Ah

Im blotting out the sky

Thats all i needed to hear

I will turn my factory into a asylum

[junior laurel]

If you do it right you can blueprint a "skin" over a miner
also missed water extractors (I am not counting that bug)

[steady dome]

Geothermals as well 😉

[nocturne nebula]

wow, found a BIG hole!

almost walked into it, lol

[junior laurel]

Void hole; leads to the ||[redacted]||

[wanton blaze]

||my place||

[azure swan]

Thinkin about setting up my very first drone network to tackle the problem of delivering uranium to the exclusion zone I'm setting up to isolate the radioactivity. Thinkin about what fuel to use for the thing cause the only fuel I'm currently making I'm using for power. It looks like a drone will even use plutonium rods which would be hilarious, but then it wouldn't have any fuel to start the process.

[shrewd palm]

turbofuel will probably be best

unless you want to do rocket fuel (might be overkill)

[azure swan]

I think I'll just make a small fuel refinery just to supply this drone (or I guess it could be the feeder to any future planned drone outposts).

[shrewd palm]

where are you building?

[azure swan]

I'm planning on drawing from the impure uranium node on the northern high plateau and my plant will be at water level on an island waaaaay out north of there.

[timber island]

If the drone throughput doesn't need to be anything crazy then even the weaker fuel types should do fine

Once the throughput starts getting too high it may be time to consider trains or something

[azure swan]

It will be supplying the maximum throughput of uranium out of an impure which is 300/m

[shrewd palm]

you should use all the uranium

it will be fun i promise

[azure swan]

I probably will, but I'm just building a small plant out of one impure to start.

[shrewd palm]

ahh

[placid stirrup]

Almost as fun as stepping on Legos!

[shrewd palm]

im working on all of the uranium rn