Boscage Maze Sonic

[oak vale]

The night time city ?

[remote orbit]

Night time city
Also the one with so many rails(night time) this is also where shadow players are going crazy

[wispy owl]

Sooooo...let's finally introduce cooldown

[remote orbit]

Two maps Ik when your safe from infinite spammers
The one with sunset map
And temple gate

[oak vale]

🌞

[remote orbit]

I forgot the name 😭

[jagged bison]

Lets please remove something on Shelter.

[oak vale]

After using a move for a while or spamming it you’ll be unable to activate it for a certain while

[remote orbit]

Remove bms- I mean uh fix his sharp shelter

[oak vale]

Remove hedge maze effect

Make us able to slide it

[jagged bison]

Or shorten it so it can be jumped.

All the other automines, except Replica, can at least be jumped.

[wispy owl]

Exactly. Not difficult to program and introduce. It would de-claw some annoying characters for good

[remote orbit]

Get rid of the slow effect, make the distance a little bit farther so players can react to it, or if they gonna keep its distance, atleast put a hole in the bottom

So you can slide to it

[jagged bison]

And yes, remove the slow debuff. Shelter hits hard and doesn't need additional slowdown.

[oak vale]

All they need to do is make it so the model with the hole can be seen by everyone, then just make the hit box smaller near the bottom so we can slide it

Simple easy fix they can do

[remote orbit]

I just find out that it gives bms a speed buff

[oak vale]

True though it would probably be bypassed by some sweatlords that know exactly the amount to spam before the cooldown appears

So you’ll have people that spam to hell and back and then just wait so they don’t get the cooldown

[wispy owl]

That's unavoidable but the spam would be reduced either way

[remote orbit]

They nerf bigs four lanes, idk if they can even do that programಥ⌣ಥ
Should have just fix the bug

[oak vale]

They aren’t the brightest bunch of devs, that’s for certain

[wispy owl]

They made his trap the same as everyone else's - they are just ppl like us, they've chosen the way of least resistance

[oak vale]

They just had to make it that the water doesn’t appear when your on that lane

[wispy owl]

I think I know their problem with bigs old trap. If you program a randomizer for a pattern, it's what the name suggests: random. You can't "un-random" something, it's not random then.

[remote orbit]

HL shouldn't have done that, bigs traps are least of their worries

Rip bigs four lanes 🙏🙏🙏

[wispy owl]

but we complained about it, then they finally did something and now we're whining about it - it's always the same and it'll stay that way forever. Sonic fans in a nutshell.

they should have left their hands from it

[remote orbit]

No, the only problem it has is the bug, tbh they could have keep the old four lane lily trap

Without the bug

[wispy owl]

Was there a version without the bug (i'm no big player sry)

[remote orbit]

Yes

The good era

[wispy owl]

Well, that's the same problem with the disconnect bug - there was a point in time when it didn't exist and they are either not able to go back to that point or they just don't know what they changed to have it re-appear (or appear at all).

I'm just not convinced of that "not the brightest devs" garbage. They programmed a pretty amazing piece together, even though it's 6 years old and needs a makeover

[remote orbit]

I saw nollie said they're recruiting a new game developer? Correct me if I'm wrong

[wispy owl]

it's true

and new level designer(s)

bc the re-introduction of old tracks seems to be real

[remote orbit]

We never know, the old devs might have quitted long ago so they needed new ones

[wispy owl]

Also true, they could be gone for years

[oak vale]

Still waiting for other nerfs

[wispy owl]

but who's left is probably capable of understanding the code and able to see the problem - it's just not their fakkin priority

I don't know what exactly IS their priority, but it's not the clearly needed obvious fixes

[remote orbit]

I forgot to mention infinite(high level) can use it many times so the other replicas are gonna attack you either way

And then poof, you're third

[oak vale]

their priority is to overbuff characters and introduce horrible metas, then recap them for free money

[remote orbit]

I wouldn't mind a op big-

[oak vale]

big aint even really op

no need to nerf

but he is still playable

[remote orbit]

No no I mean, a new op big 😳

[oak vale]

santa

[jagged bison]

Still works the same though. Unless another player is close enough, you'll only get targeted by 1. It's not too hard to deal with. It gets trickier if there's at least another Infinite around, but then they have to worry about not touching the Replicas also since it might not be their own.

[remote orbit]

Prime big 😳😳

[oak vale]

[remote orbit]

His pngs aren't really hard to deal it, it's just became a problem when they spammed it, high level ofc(2x guranteed)

They still can spawn like, 5 replicas on hitting that png button, I've dealt with those before, but open areas isn't really a problem

[jagged bison]

What 2x chance? It's a single pick up.

[remote orbit]

No I mean the replicas

[jagged bison]

Ah.

[vale rapids]

I love it's design and abilities but I really hope they could add more sonic prime variants into the game or maybe a super form sonic prime variant 🤩

[digital burrow]

Discovered something with boscage
If you got hit by meph and try to tap on boost after it charges you lose it
but if you let it activate by itself after it charges you don't lose it

[plucky cave]

Ok, Sharp Shelter needs some gap... Also, it breaks so fast even no one got damage by it...The boost should charge up much quicker....

[plucky cave]

Yeah, it's automatically boosts even if you don't tap it again just like RR projectile

[digital burrow]

The gap only shows up for your Boscage, they should swap how players see the trap

[plucky cave]

No I meant, from me and the enemy's trap.... When I run, .1 seconds it appears

[scarlet willow]

Obnoxious with the spam

Sharp Shelter does TOO much damage and it having the nature effect is too powerful the fact it spawns so close can catch you off guard even with quick reaction time the shield effect is uh fine ig

Jungle Run on paper would seem balanced Charge up boost quick duration and a little trail well heres the problem you get 0 IFRAMES FROM THE TRAIL so yeah you'll get hit a few times by it doesnt help you still get the nature effect it doesnt size out the gap of its power unlike RR pre nerf where she was a balanced hard hitter with a mediocre boost

Lily trap
Uh nothing to say but:Big ripoff L

[remote orbit]

The last one is facts ngl 🗿

[scarlet willow]

Fr

[oak vale]

Remove the Shield effect giving BCS a mini boost

[hexed flame]

I still think boost needs work

And for some reason when the tree spawn in front of me (my own tree) it doesn't give me boost

Is really annoying for the tree is to go bye bye on you when u need it the most (like everytimr is on a clean location)

True

[hardy ether]

Doesn’t boost its just a extra shield

[hexed flame]

I mean that like shield

[hardy ether]

Oh

[hexed flame]

Is okay I see why u get confused

[hardy ether]

Hmm weird

[hexed flame]

I didn't explain it well enough

[hardy ether]

Your fine

[hexed flame]

Also isn't wired how when u get the shield it makes it look like you got faster?

[oak vale]

Remove hedgemaze effect and decrease the obstacles, also remove its charge up

Fixed

[jagged bison]

It's definitely a bit odd that it does that. Besides that, the shield is useful and has saved me a few times. That said, Shelter is a bit too OP as it is now. It does tend to spawn too close to react to, can only be sidestepped, does a lot of damage, and adds a debuff on top of that.
Jungle Run needs either a boost time reduction or boost duration increases. Removing the debuff on it would be good too since the vines it leaves behind slows down opponents enough when hit.
There's no need for the extra debuff added by his attack and boost.

[steady saffron]

can't wait for this whole thread be thrown in the trash and boscage get a buff on every item

[hard meteor]

honestly that track with the 2 single lane at the end need more dashpad in the middle lane so you can choose between the 2

[olive brook]

Boring

Sus if u think abt it

[oak vale]

Yeah

[tawny locust]

he's great but I was wondering when you were going to add super silver

[oak vale]

Hes bad but I want a Super Infinite to get added

[peak sun]

The trees spawn in front of us even spammers like to go wild with those

[sullen breach]

I find that auto-mines are very hard to deal with. Apart of the thing of these being able to block everything that benefits you (dashpads, triple dashpads, item boxes) These do big damage which should be totally nerfed. Now it's not only Boscage, after suffering so much against them, I've learned that auto-mines are the most broken and unbalanced thing that a character in this game could have. These get placed automatically infront of a rival, which you would say: "well okay I can dodge it". But, you can't even take a breath because they appear very close, the sharp shelter upgrade that makes it target rivals shouldn't exist. And a fundamental thing would be there being a way of dodging the trap without having to change lane since it appears close (sliding or jumping). So if you're in the same lane as the auto-mine and don't react fastly you are already done. The damage his attacks do are just too crazy, (lilytrap is okay). His boost's brambles do inmeasurable damage, and actually if you don't get hit by a bramble the Boscage will be able to pass through you and give you the Hedge-Maze effect which slows you way too much. I find this broken. You can reach to place 3 brambles which can be very hard to dodge since you can't predict your rivals's movements at all. The boost's speed is okay, it starts fast and then slowly starts to lose speed. Boscage Maze Sonic is a character that can block very easily all things that benefit you + his sharp shelter can be easily spammed... Just imagine, an auto-mine which is actually broken by only using one and actually being spammable. This is just too much. His attacks appear too close, and do very high damage. In conclusion, nerf the damage of all of his traps (expect lilytrap which is okay) Reduce the Hedge-Maze effect notably. Or my big suggestion would be eliminating the damage of all his attacks and just making it have Hedge-Maze effect as strong as now. NERF BOSCAGE (I wrote this before)

[oak vale]

I agree with all these statements. The funny thing is that everyones argument against nerfing Auto-mines will be "You can dodge it though", "its so easy to dodge" but I don't see how that benefits you in any way as those Auto-mines are still on item boxes, dash pads and whatever else. For Boscage Sonic's movesets I'll give the devs a single drop of praise, they were smart to make his Auto-mine instantly target the closest player because if it functioned as a standard auto-mine, it would be absurdly broken as its unjumpable. Also all his moves need the Hedgemaze effect removed completely as they already deal a lot of damage and the effect is just unnecessary for such a moves. I also believe his Boost should have it's obstacle drops reduced and that his upgrades should focus on increasing the obstacles dropped instead of the damage; they are already pretty powerful.

[sullen breach]

People literally criticized my opinion saying it's a skill issue of mine or move from lane to lane

[oak vale]

But how is that supposed to help you if all the ways to try and recover are spammed with auto-mine??

Smooth brain auto-mine users

They are trying to defend Auto-mines at all costs because they want to be a slobby sweat, spamming their auto-mine on every dash pad and item box for easy cheap wins.

And of course HL are letting them

HL are instead dealing with much bigger issues like Lily Pads

[sullen breach]

I said that since they are spammable

[sullen breach]

Metaslaves basically

[sullen breach]

Money printers

[oak vale]

🤑

HL recapping the same character 4x in a row because they know people will pay for them still

[sullen breach]

Go to screenshots

[fluid tangle]

Bomb

[fluid tangle]

E

[real nacelle]

Not sure why they keep adding characters with items that only affects the first place

It's becoming annoying

[hard meteor]

i don't knw why they item 1 item with so much perks

• block a entire lane
• don't need to be aim to hit someone
• spawn right ontop of you with no time to react
• does emine damage
• does slow effect so you can't switch lane, leaving you vulnerable to get hit by it again
• give the user a shield and Abit of a boost
• very spammable at level 12

[oak vale]

Too much

[edgy totem]

Now make it take away an item

[rotund storm]

He's a alright character not too bad

[oak vale]

He’s cancer

[novel fog]

You just face a lvl 12+ Boscage and you realize how much he is broken with the number of trees, not to mention that the slowing effect is endless, or you lose by slowing or by taking another tree afterwards

[oak vale]

Yep

fantastic game design

[icy dust]

Doesn’t make sense for boscage to target the first runner if he is in 3rd or 4th you can essentially lose a race from 1st to 4th because of someone who is very far behind. Slow down effect on sharp shelter is not needed as the damage from sharp shelter without the slow down effect is already very high. Sharp shelter targeting more rivals at L 12 is excessive, Jungle run is okay although I don’t think it needs the damage from the brambles left behind, it makes it difficult to catch up.

[marsh yarrow]

Can it at least give a few distance between the tree spawn and the player

[remote orbit]

Bms= kfc deep fryer

[hard meteor]

the brambles can litterally do slow effect and they would be good

[worthy minnow]

Also touching the boost shouldn’t give the nature effect

[hard meteor]

it's shouldn't do damage but give the effect like rainbow boost

[worthy minnow]

Yes

[fluid tangle]

[oak vale]

This goes for essentially every auto targeting mine/projectile.

[thorny oyster]

This
We really don’t need another hard hitting projectile that only targets the person in first

There’s already enough shenanigans that do that

Which they should also get fixed like stalking shade cmon HL

[stone grove]

Another annoying gatekeeper, just what this game needed

[digital burrow]

I'd fix Sharp Shelter by making it only deal nature effect at lv12 instead of targeting more rivals

[real nacelle]

They just felt like giving infinite item to other character but on projectile slot

Basically maxing out faster since it's at lvl 12

[sullen breach]

NER NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF

[oak vale]

And it spawns basically 0.1 cms closer

Also dealing more damage

and the slow down of hedgemaze being unable to switch lanes

atleast make it so you have invincibility while the effect is on

Or remove it entirely

[fluid tangle]

[fair marlin]

See a lot of people complaining about spamming but come on Mephiles is still the worst personaly It makes me happy to see people who hack with him get screwed only thing I’d change is his boost should be alot faster especially with the charge up

[oak vale]

Everyone knows that Mephiles is the king of spam

Hes the character which 100% needs a nerf

[marsh yarrow]

Hedgehog menace

“he will shatter your world” indeed

[stuck parrot]

Fr

[fluid tangle]

[crisp badger]

Bruh i forgot there was an event im not going to be able to have im 😭

[remote orbit]

The freaking slow down effect is so unnecessary and sharp shelter needed a nerf

Also the boost trails should have been like the light effect like with ucs rainbows

[oak vale]

Exactly, Hedgemaze effect is not needed at all

And it lasts for years

There’s the chance you just get hit by another when you are trying to not move lanes

It’s cancerously broken

[plucky cave]

Nerf Sharp Shelter Spawning... It's freaking annoying

And make it jumpable

Make it like longclaws trap

[oak vale]

Make it slideable my opinion

[iron dagger]

Nerf that tree

It shouldn’t spawn inside of you what the hell

[oak vale]

And it shouldn't block the whole lane

and deal like 943x effects at a time

Replica has the right to do that because it has a single effect and spawns a decent distance away

also Infinite is a challenger

Yep

Even if they do, they will misinterpret and buff the hell out of him

like they did for RR

RR actually needed nerfs

and the boost needed a change

They basically gave him a slap on the wrist

[gaunt inlet]

One word: broken

[oak vale]

"NERF STALKING SHADE!!"
HL: "Okie dokie, Swarming Darkness nerf coming right up!"

[gaunt inlet]

Honestly it basically spam to win

[oak vale]

NPCS

[gaunt inlet]

Just like a lvl 16 infinite

The only way to win is to spam.

[oak vale]

Spam Forces Spam Battle

Im on the brink of quitting

SFSB is holding me with a thread

I enjoy playing sometimes

but its mostly just pain that comes

Sometimes BS stuff happens

a simple cash grab

a scheme for HL

they rerun broken characters and bring in the money

[steady saffron]

they're probably not even caring about the moderation of this channel lol, we're at this point complainig about the entire game instead of just the character

shows how much they care about the feedback

[silver skiff]

I dont think they want to get into an argument lmao

[scenic pine]

Boscage Maze Sonic is fine, the only thing I would like is that they reduce the charge time of the boost

[remote orbit]

So true

[bleak oracle]

Got from a match against a level 12 boscage.... Is as stupid as we feared...
The only reason i got seconsd Is because i got hit with some awfull lag spikes which saved me from that mess the others got stuck behind still getting hit, because they whoever got third got hit by that tree

[hexed flame]

BMS is really cool character obviously need some fixing here and there but I think he is strong enough already and no I'm not saying this bc I'm a player who plays as him I just think is a general cool and challenging character

[edgy totem]

Give him a gun

[edgy totem]

Two guns

[oak vale]

4 guns

2 in his feet

[flat obsidian]

[bleak oracle]

So... Is confirmed ?
While a bit weird the boost balance, the tree Is what need tweqkink?

[worthy minnow]

The trees are broken

You can call auto mines broken when that tree spawns closer to you than any other auto mine in game (except spear trap since it technically is an auto mine with all that damn range)

[oak vale]

Nerf the tree

[worthy minnow]

Nerf the weed

[oak vale]

Nerf your dad

[opal pagoda]

Buff the boost

[worthy minnow]

Nerf the zaza demon

[oak vale]

No 👎👎👎👎

Nerf

[silver skiff]

All he said was to buff the boost lmao

bro saw the message and took it personally

[coral bane]

Boscage was end

[fluid tangle]

[oak vale]

Nerf when

[remote orbit]

2034

[oak vale]

Accurate

[nova swift]

For BM Sonic, with experience playing with/against him, I think Sharp Shelter needs either a damage change or a placement change. The spawn point from what I've seen is way too close to the target to where it's hard to react to it. On top of that, the item still spawns in front of it's target even when the user is in 1st. Its hits are also too hard for an item that targets multiple players at max level. I believe decreasing Sharp Shelter's damage and moving the spawn points a little farther away will be a reasonable change to prevent players from overtaking 1st while keep the items brutality.

[sharp jay]

This isn't related to BM Sonic, but, whenever I hit someone or get hit by Rusty's Trip Wires, it has the icon for BM Sonic's Boost instead.

[remote orbit]

Bug

[crisp crescent]

Nerf this wolverine ripoff bruh

[oak vale]

Please 🙏

[weak flame]

It was perfect. . Everything about boscage maze sonic was perfect

I could think about him everyday

Like no doubt that I'll enjoy every minute using him

👍

[oak vale]

Hes broken

He is not perfect

Absolutely busted character

[weak flame]

That may be true

[oak vale]

There is no balancing with him

[weak flame]

But that's my opinion

[trim kestrel]

boscage maze sonic rating:
sharp shelter/10

[weak flame]

I just don't really care about the balance, what mattered to me was that I got him, and that's all I'm happy for

[oak vale]

Sharp mid/10

[remote orbit]

Nerf the tree

[rotund storm]

Nerf the Tree the rest of Boscage's Moves are fine

[remote orbit]

Naw, nerf the boost trails too cause that thing can give you 5 stages of slow down

[iron dagger]

Nerf the tree

[trim kestrel]

it's called sharp shelter

[remote orbit]

Nerf them trees

[granite cargo]

Nerf the trees

[hexed flame]

I think the tree is pretty fine it just sucks when u have to deal with it in a single trail that u can't avoid it and also pls make the tree to not disappear almost every use

[fluid tangle]

Everyone below this comment is everyone below this comment

[trim kestrel]

everyone above this comment is everyone above this comment

[remote orbit]

The tree is definitely not fine, nerf it, get rid of the slow down effect

[edgy totem]

I'd say either get rid of the slowdown or nerf the damage a decent bit

It shouldn't do that much damage while also having the slowdown thing

[bleak oracle]

Is already a unjumpable trap so if it catches you on a single lane path that Is your fault...
But that doesn't mean it should spawn so close, you can barely react to it, if you can that Is...
There Is Also not much of a notable sound unlike the others auto-mine that spawn as close (which btw can be jumped)

It already hit hard, unjumpable and unslideable ,apply slow upon hitting
AND it should be ok... If Is spawn distance wasn't an near always hitting by How close Is spawn to the aimed player

[edgy totem]

Waffle iron

[hot sequoia]

Is worth upgrading him ?

[oak vale]

Nerf

[fluid tangle]

super boscage maze sonic when

[velvet basin]

When super mephiles comes

[fluid tangle]

[royal forge]

Nerf damage and buff duration with upgrade. The other stats have done, in my opinion, is the result, (6,12 the effect is longer, 2,8,14 long charge, long duration and more sharp traps) any other question?

[fluid tangle]

👍 \

[oak vale]

Decrease the traps dropped, increase charge up

Remove hedgemaze effect off all attacks

Make Sharp Shelter spawn further away from the player

Make Sharp Shelter dodgable by sliding/jumping over

Remove Sharp Shelter's shield effect giving Boscage a boost of speed

same with Movie Tail's EMP which needs the speed boost removed

[bleak oracle]

movie tails´s EMP has a speed boost so small now, that it might not exist, it came clutch in frames sometimes but thats it

[bleak oracle]

while all the effect that tree has make it really good, the real problem is the spawn distance, a near always hitting trap by spawning way to close.... that is like the the best way to balance it, by making it spawn further away, if not then jumpable/slideable

[oak vale]

Hedgemaze is also annoying as hell

Because the effect doesn’t make you invincible to getting hit again

You can not do anything

[bleak oracle]

yeah i agree, but lest start with the biggest problem before nerfing eveything else

in a game where there are different abilities that work diferently and do diferrent things, is inevitable that some of them are better than other, the problem is when they are so good that they eliminate skill from the equation and in this case is the spawn distance

at least the bigger offender in boscage

[oak vale]

Alright but the spawn distance is only a fraction of the problems with Sharp Shelter

[bleak oracle]

oh yeah sure, but the problem because you can always dodge it since is single lane... the problem is that one cannot dodge it because of how close it spawn, and then it applies its effect

it does need some tweeking but the main is the distance maybe a shorter hedgemaze effect, or making that an upgrade (they already add effect to attacks with the levels)

not disagreeing btw just saying that it can only applie those things upon hitting, but since it spawn so in your face, it hit anyway

[fluid tangle]

[iron dagger]

Nerf the plant

[scenic pine]

Buff the boost

[hard meteor]

nerf the plant remove the damage from bramble

[oak vale]

Reduce damage on his attacks, reduce brambles dropped, remove Hedgemaze effect from attacks

[royal forge]

BM sonic and spring cream they must be equally balanced

But try to test a change in the objects

[royal forge]

Tell me more

[modest willow]

The Broken Principal Item

[royal forge]

Oh that object

Is a mix characters, longclaw and spring cream, i like it

[fluid tangle]

eeeee

[fluid tangle]

[daring tide]

U can't be serious with these

[fluid tangle]

[remote orbit]

Nerf the goofy ahh plant

[fluid tangle]

[oak vale]

Probably not the brambles reduction and damage reeducation but everything else yes

[edgy totem]

I wouldn't mind the slowdown if the tree didn't do so much damage

Either make it do a good bit less damage or get rid of the slowdown

[remote orbit]

Get rid of the slow down, give sharp shelter more distance, replace the brambles with light effect instead

[oak vale]

⬆️

[edgy totem]

Give him a gun

[edgy totem]

Two guns

And a bagel

Two bagels

[wispy owl]

I can't see how anyone thinks he's op. He's slow af, the boost is equally unusable as Rusty's - only the attack is annoying on the receiving end shrug

[tacit fossil]

Not only does sharp shelter do way too much damage on impact but nature effect makes you not want to swipe and since the tree spawns so close so you just keep getting comboed and for doing a basic action in the game you get slowed down and his boost is literally unicorn cream but again

[remote orbit]

But again...this is will take months for them to fix it and sc is coming too so get ready for more slow downs

[tacit fossil]

BMS is like pre nerf SC

[remote orbit]

Dayum

[river kraken]

A lot of things about Boscage is just annoying his projectile does a little too much damage and should've been actual projectile rather than being how it works like Tikals trap and if you look back at her release it wasn't a good idea which if you take the time and think if players want that i'm pretty they would want to aim at the players rather it being a set target for 1st and 2nd. his boost when it hits you if you don't get hit by the him passing through you leaving a nature effect on you and the bramble it leaves behind and you hit it you'll take damage and get the effect which I think it's too much it should be if you get hit by the bramble you get the effect. his trap I have no issues with

From what I saw and been racing against boscage's projectile is just rocky road but with nature effect to me

[bleak oracle]

The boost do need some kind of rework, making it faster would be nice yes
But that Damm tree, Is just too good, just now u use it on somebody with a BIG lead , hit only once and he just eat dirt and i reach him no problem

[wispy owl]

The ppl in my lobbies don't seem to be dumb enough to run into my trees, I keep losing with lvl 12 boscage.

[oak vale]

Spam is your best friend as a BCS

[hexed flame]

BMS's are fine I feel

He is pretty difficult to play

Since he is a sentry and all

But I feel that what's make him interesting he feels like the engineer of the SFSB

Tbh real the his boost isn't really the best still

[arctic comet]

[royal forge]

YIKES

[hard meteor]

I don't knw why the boost need a buff you litterally can't hit a bms while his boost is charge and he can still use it right after

[bleak oracle]

but... you can? maybe with a shield he won´t react negatively , and im only speaking in the speed department of the boost

the annoying part of the boost is the vines anyway

and the real problem of boscage is the tree

[hard meteor]

noo you have to wait until he actually active the boost by that time you already got hit by a bramble

[bleak oracle]

...?you mean as in hit first and then they finish charging the boost and use them?

because reading the first part it sound more like hitting after the boost actiavte (asking because legit confused reading that part)

anyway i mean the boost is a bit in the slow part, but since is has the vines ...brambles ,,whatever, is does its work, thats why i mean a rework like because if it get any buff is too much

i still say that the tree is too strong though

[remote orbit]

Buff boost, replace the brambles with light effect just like ucs rainbow trails

[bleak oracle]

to be fair the rainbow trails are harder to dodge

[remote orbit]

Tip, crouch

[bleak oracle]

i know but they also cover 2 sides and jumping sometimes is inevitable so the boost is canceled

[remote orbit]

Well, it's a different sides so it's dodgable

Also crouching while boosting helps

[bleak oracle]

i know...

[fluid tangle]

[icy dust]

💀

[hexed flame]

The plant is pretty fine💀

Let the weed grow

[hard meteor]

we need a weed Wacker item now so I can counter bms

[remote orbit]

Weed wacker would be Mephiles cause you can spam his kids to do the work

[hard meteor]

nah I need something to get down the trees

[remote orbit]

Cut down trees? Use Rrs electrical bills

[edgy totem]

Imagine they add Thorn and it's just a more stupid version of BMS

[oak vale]

No lmao his projectile is broken af

[fluid tangle]

[hard meteor]

should have just added thorn instead of bms not like he show the ability to sommon plants

[edgy totem]

Yeah that's what I've been thinking

I don't get why he has these abilities

Maybe because he has the crystal energy within his shoes?

And that's how Thorn did so

So I guess that's how

But it would make more sense for Thorn

[hard meteor]

they energy just chances his attire the the work he is in

[strong citrus]

Agree with you on spring cream but bms is OP with he's tree he needs nerf

I can't beat lv 3

💀

[royal forge]

Needs nerf and change duration, speed and effect duration? I have no idea

[strong citrus]

🗿

[digital burrow]

just fix Sharp Shelter by making it only deal nature damage at lv12 instead of targeting more rivals

also make it so that how players see it is swapped (the hole shows up for other players and not you) and allow players to slide under it

[royal forge]

Oh no. And if they stalk me and if they attack me from behind me. what I do?

They are going to corner me and instantly POW, injuring me

[royal forge]

What i do? What i do?

[hexed flame]

Come on man I know is pretty difficult for even an 3 but is pretty easy

[remote orbit]

What's not easy is getting hit by those trees and brambles with a slow down everytime you get hit by it

[hexed flame]

Yikes gotta i agree even though I'm a BMS main I know when getting hit by those tree by another BMD isn't really nice

Really can ruin you if your not careful

[bleak oracle]

That tree only have to hit once to completely destroy a big lead

[oak vale]

Nerf

[granite cargo]

Nerf the tree

[marsh yarrow]

Nerf bms

Nerf his tree spawn

[edgy totem]

Can't wait for them to see everyone saying his tree should be nerfed and instead buff him to where he spawns a whole forest

[opal pagoda]

[hexed flame]

LMAO

[bleak oracle]

So much Time lost seing which message to eliminaté so it still make Sense AND Yet...998

[hexed flame]

My boy BMS is the second highest texted chat lol

[oak vale]

Yes

[royal forge]

The team Prime is the best team

[hexed flame]

Inded

[fluid tangle]

🎋

[fallen ravine]

My thoughts: his boost is fine, maybe lessen the amount of tumbleweeds dropped, but aside from that that's fine, Lilly trap is fine, but the shelter move thing does WAY to much damage, especially since it also give BMS a shield, so I'd make it much weaker. Aside from that, he's fine

[hexed flame]

🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲

[fallen ravine]

Yup, basically BMS gameplay

[royal forge]

[limber grotto]

Nah I like how it is

[royal forge]

Level 2: 3 brambles
Level 8: 4/5 brambles
Level 14: 6/7 brambles

Level 6: sharp shelter x2
Level 12: sharp shelter x3

[limber grotto]

Who tryna run it

[hexed flame]

I can't wait to get a lv 6 soon

[fluid tangle]

Pog

[analog moat]

Better late than never to give my opinion

In my opinion he is a good character although he needs an adjustment and that is his main attack, the "trees" appear too close to the player not giving time to dodge, if they adjust that the character would be more balanced, that's my only complaint in general great character the rest to stay the same

[hexed flame]

I do wish his boost isb better tho and I also agree with u

[sullen breach]

nerf nerf nerf nerf

[remote orbit]

Nerf the tree

[hexed flame]

I feel I like the tree the way it is tho but I dunno

[tacit fossil]

Have you seen it at Level 12

[oak vale]

Nerf everything

[marsh yarrow]

Add more distance between the player and the sharp shelter

Or made it a little bit smaller so that could be jump

[edgy totem]

Lawn clippings

[pure ridge]

True

[fluid tangle]

openanoor

[worthy minnow]

Make it spawn at the same distance away as deadly replica
Nerf the damage or have it not make you stumble and please MAKE UP UR MIND ON WHAT TYPE OF DAMAGE THE BOOST DOES

[fluid tangle]

🙅‍♂️

[gaunt inlet]

Ikr it’s so annoying

[fluid tangle]

[oak vale]

Remove Hedgemaze effect from all his moves

Reduce damage

[edgy totem]

Clearly he needs multiple pickups on his trees

[edgy totem]

3x pickup

[stone cairn]

⬆️

[remote orbit]

[fluid tangle]

[earnest valve]

Hey guys, I have a question for you. Do you guys get the last chance discount with Boscage Sonic Tails Vault? Cuz I didn't so I wonder if some of you got that 😕

[fluid tangle]

nope

[royal forge]

Your IQ is over 9000

[oak vale]

Why stop at 3, why not an infinite pick up

Random chance too

also make it so you gain a boost like Super Form when somebody hits it

[marsh yarrow]

Nerf BMS, change his target more rivals into increased chance of 2x

[fluid tangle]

[candid kiln]

stop creating new characters TOO op

SHARP SHELTER:
-Can remove ring
-Slows down heavily after hitting it
-Slows down rivals if they change lanes
-Appears close to rivals
-When max level can spawn 2 trees directly
-User gains a shield if they hit their own tree
-No need for timing and skill to use it
-Arrows are useless against Sharp Shelter

[tawny locust]

Boscage maze sonic is great I have lvl 3 beacause I did not want to upgrade so I I left over cards

[fluid tangle]

Pog

[oak vale]

Boscage is too broken

[hexed flame]

BMS is great without a doubt my favorite and my strongest character I have own so far

[fluid tangle]

[stone cairn]

I'd just have the trees spawn further out. Other than that he's seems solid

[fluid tangle]

[candid kiln]

That's the problem, we are not given time to react / avoid it

even though it's like Crossed Wires, but Sharp shelter can't be jumped over🤦

[oak vale]

Remove Hedgemaze effect

[earnest valve]

When Boscage Sonic of last chance vault?

[tawny locust]

why do you want to nerf boscage probably you don't have him its a great character

he can beat Mephiles because mephiles is the most popular character the prime characters are great tails nine though not so much I think so it's just my opinion.also when are you going to add super silver Nollie?

[edgy totem]

We wouldn't have to have a character to beat Mephiles if they didn't just nerf Swarming Darkness and fixed the issues with Stalking Shade

[tawny locust]

true

[oak vale]

We want him nerfed because his main projectile is honestly unfair

Spawns directly infront of you with barely any space, deals damage and also has the Hedgemaze effect

Meaning you have no invincibility and you are slowing down, unable to change lanes or you’ll slow down even more

This just allows you to get attacked even more

And maybe even get hit by another Hedgemaze if you’re in first

[tawny locust]

thtas great if you're using him though

[bleak oracle]

the tree also hit HARD, that along with eveyrything that g_sense say make it so you instantly lose any kind of lead, it basically punish you for being first (like the stlaking shade that also punish you for being first but that one is spamable if weaker in strengh)

[tawny locust]

yeah he should probabaly be nerfed

[fluid tangle]

[royal forge]

Yes, i want super silver

[agile shale]

I woulder if that would add sonic frontier sonic

[marsh yarrow]

Hope so

With new power items and boost

And either hoping super will get alternative form than super form boost

[sullen breach]

nerf

right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sinful ether]

Not that op

[oak vale]

Yes he is that op 💀💀💀💀

[foggy badger]

[opal pagoda]

Adventure Sonic with the Sonic Wind

[hexed flame]

Tree man I choose you!

[fluid tangle]

[crisp crescent]

Please nerf this dude's tree damnn

[fluid tangle]

Ye

[marsh yarrow]

I know a lot of people have said this already, but I think Sharp Shelter should spawn a bit further away. At the moment, if it spawns in front of you, you have virtually no time to react, and you can't jump or slide through it either. I think anyone should be able to slide under the hole, not just BMS. I know fake hits can happen depending on your internet connection, but they happen more frequently with Sharp Shelter. What I mean by fake hit is when your opponent dodges your attack, but they dodge so close to the trap that the game recognises it as a hit on your screen, so the trap disappears. It happens frequently because it spawns so close, which I why I think the spawn distance needs to be further away. Otherwise, this defeats the object of being able to get a shield when running into your own tree. If your opponents keep near missing it, you are losing out on gaining a shield just because of a bug in the game. I also think Jungle Run shouldn't deal damage, it should just cause opponents to slow down when changing lanes. Rainbow Boost was nerfed because of the stumble, it was removed, so I think the same thing should happen with Jungle Run. It feels unfair if you and Boscage are extremely far behind, and then Boscage can just keep you behind the entire match just by laying brambles while boosting.

[marsh yarrow]

HOLY COW he just explained why boscage is broken

[marsh yarrow]

I'm trying to give more constructive feedback

Rather than just saying, BOSCAGE IS BROKEN NERF HIM 😂

[marsh yarrow]

Good boy

[hexed flame]

I agree!

[remote orbit]

This

[bleak oracle]

That was the most detailed explanatión of why he Is broken, while not being biased and without getting sidetracked

[marsh yarrow]

Bit patronising but thanks!

[marsh yarrow]

That was the whole point and I'm glad I did it!

[edgy totem]

From what I've seen you always do a good job at making detailed explanations for these things which is nice

[marsh yarrow]

It was easier to do because I was on my laptop 😂 if I was typing it on my phone I wouldn't have the patience

Thank you! 😁

[oak vale]

Correct, 100% agree

[clever herald]

I think boscage maze sonic is perfectly ballanced

[remote orbit]

Well about that...
Nope

[foggy badger]

But not many People are using him rn

[clever herald]

[sullen breach]

This season Boscage has been one of the main reasons why I've been tanking and I'll explain what makes him broken.

• Sharp Shelter
  An auto-mine, we already start very good, auto-mines are very unfair. This one luckily cannot be placed wherever you want but it's still very annoying. It spawns too close and the damage it does is stupid. Plus in LVL 12 it targets 2 rivals.

• Jungle Run
  To be honest, the boost's speed is okay, the problems come with the damage. There are 2 types of damage if Boscage only touches you but does not hit you with a bramble, you'll slow down heavily. If the bramble hits you, you'll receive its damage.

• Lilytrap
  This trap is ✅ at the moment.

How to fix Boscage

• Normal damage (but still reduced) on Sharp Shelter at low levels, and damage decrease (more visibile) in high levels. Reduced damage of Jungle Run.

• Maybe I would've prefered a Sharp Shelter Hedge Maze reskin, I think it would've been better than the Sharp Shelter auto-mine.

• Change the LVL 12 Upgrade which is: "Sharp Shelter targets more rivals" for a damage increase (a slight one). More fair.

• If the distance in the one Sharp Shelter appears isn't fixed at least give us a way to dodge the tree, by sliding or jumping.

• Reduce the amount of brambles Jungle Run throws, or instead: throw one bramble in lvl 1, 2 in lvl 2 and 3 in lvl 3.

• Maybe, (not necessary) increase his boost's duration. Just a buff that I find kinda great since the boost is kinda short even at max charge. (If the duration is increased it doesn't mean it'll throw more brambles)

Conclusion
Boscage needs a hard balance soon and I hope action is taken soon. A low level one looks more like a high level one. Nonsense. Thanks for reading!

[gaunt inlet]

Nerf him

He so annoying

[tacit fossil]

The tree does way too much initial damage and spawns too close
The nature effect also lasts way too long and the brambles are really annoying too
Why does the boost itself and the brambles do damage just choose one
Bms is really annoying

[oak vale]

They put way too many counterparts to his moves

Way too many effects

Boost drops brambles which deal really strong damage and then also he has the Hedgemaze aura around him which makes you slow down

Then there’s also his unjumpable/slideable “projectile” which spawns extremely close and deals crazy damage but that’s not all folks, it also has the Hedgemaze effect on it.

The thing I absolutely despise about the Hedgemaze effect is how you have no invincibility/iframes

So you will be slowing down and being hit by other moves because you are trying to dodge them

and God help you if you’re still in 1st place and you get hit with another Sharp Shelter in a row 🗿🗿🗿

Just unfair stuff

Remove Hedgemaze effect from all moves, increase spawn distance of sharp shelter, decrease damage of brambles

Or if the Hedgemaze effect were to stay for some reason? Instead decrease the damage of all the moves but still remove it from the boost

[sullen breach]

lit, why?? it's so painful

[oak vale]

No invincibility

And you can’t change lanes unless you wish to slow down even more

While also you’ll be getting hit by everyone else

💀💀💀

[sullen breach]

-Reduce damage on all his attacks and effects, increase spawn distance of spawn of Sharp Shelter. Add iframes

And he's okay

And why does his boost place 3 brambles in lvl 1??

That should be in max level

and change the lvl 12 upgrade

[oak vale]

yes

[magic jolt]

Best character in the game currently my opinion

[worthy minnow]

Rusty rose exists

Nature effect is the exact opposite of band/bunny boost

[magic jolt]

Worst challenger character but that's because I don't go against her much

[fluid tangle]

bil

[copper charm]

id say boscage is pretty decent not the best but decent

[oak vale]

Broken

[sullen breach]

Not decent broken

Needs a nerf

asap

[solar stag]

[marsh yarrow]

only if u get him in higher levels

[oak vale]

You don’t even need higher levels for him to be broken

[tawny portal]

all bms needs is a nerf to his main attack like have it spawn farther away or make it weaker other than that the speed of the boost could be reduced but im more on the fence about that

[hard meteor]

the boost shouldn't do damage at all should only do the slow effect and the sharp shelter should only do stumble and make it slidable

[tawny portal]

thats a good idea too

[daring tide]

People still having problems with stalking shade

[bleak oracle]

stalking shade IS a problem , it come way to fast and and the animation is has... only thing is does is tell you the statlking shade is being used, it hit you before the animation even fall

[tawny portal]

^

[earnest valve]

Man I'm waiting to buy the "Last Chance Tails Vault" that includes the Boscage Maze Sonic and still nothing 😕

[strong citrus]

BMS and RR are broken and that doesn't make them a good characters that make the hated characters

[fluid tangle]

[daring tide]

They should skip that last chance vault for bms. Yall don't need him any higher

[solar stag]

[earnest valve]

@oak vale @daring tide it will but not yet, it's been a month so it's gonna be a long wait, same happened with Infinite so now I can wait even a year 👀

[oak vale]

No last chance please

[solar stag]

5 is good

Because is we use the canonical levels of Sonic would be very OP
Speed: 10/10
Aceleration: 10/10
Strength: 8/10

Something like this

[earnest valve]

Nvm, that's actually a great point what you said

[weak flame]

B r i n g
H i m
B a c k

P l e a s e

[versed crescent]

@solar stag solo que le pongan 6 de aceleración y ya que les cuesta

[solar stag]

Que el personaje ya estaría muy roto y empezarían a pedir buff de aceleración para todos los personajes

Yo solo pido que buffeen a Infinite y ya

[opal pagoda]

I never saw Sonic accelerating fast without turbo or the spin dash