❔┃ask-the-community

[terse otter]

Is there a way, that the lootfilter only shows u the possible affixes for the itemtype u selected, and not all of them?

[frigid orbit]

Not yet.

You can check it outside the game, e.g., https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/affixes

[terse otter]

yet you say :)? Was something mentioned, that this is in planning?

Yes, I'm using https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/ right now, thanks for the tip though!

[frigid orbit]

I'm not sure if they said something specific about it. I hope they will improve the lootfilter once the affixes are more finalized. You can always leave suggestions at #suggestions-and-like-to-see

I prefer the illustration of tunklab. I think it has a far better overview for affixes. In other scenarios lastepochtools is better.

[terse otter]

it gives a nice overview, that's true. Thanks for helping out

[rare fjord]

how to survive from jurla's initial cast?

[bronze trellis]

the massive arena AoE?

you have to timewarp

[rare fjord]

yeah void damage

omgf ty

I've thrown away 4 keys 😂

[copper fable]

lol unlucky

[brave ledge]

which of these triggers this? if any: heal on block, using a potion, life leech, health gained on melee hit

[brittle atlas]

the holy symbol passive (which heals on block with a 3 second CD)

potions, leech, and life gain on hit are not healing

any effect that specifically uses the word "heal" basically

[brave ledge]

so "gain health" is not also?

[brittle atlas]

it is not

[brave ledge]

(aegis of renewal)

ok

and can it proc if you heal yourself at full life or do you actually have to heal some health?

[brittle atlas]

you have to have some kind of health deficit

[brave ledge]

ok, ty

[sour scaffold]

I'm concerned about mana issues on my Beastmaster, it's an Upheaval build, 4 mana per attack, zero mana investment anywhere, and I got like 100%+ attack speed, the cost is low but should I expect to be mana starved in such circumstances?

(haven't made it yet)

[frigid orbit]

I think the baseline is 8 mana per second for regeneration without investment. Isn't it?

[brittle atlas]

yeah, 8/sec is base

if you have a lot of attack speed scaling you'll probably run out eventually

but only 100% probably won't be that bad

otherwise you can probably get mana regen on belt without much opportunity cost

[sour scaffold]

Good to know, might be tolerable after all. Ty. I still got like 4 wolves and yeah maybe a bit on gear.

[frigid orbit]

Most attacks have a base attack speed of 0.68182. With 100 inc attack speed and a fast nagasa scymitar (1.24) you will have 0.68182 / 1.24 / (1+1.) = 0.274927419 attacktime meaning aroudn 4 attacks per second

[brittle atlas]

I'd assume an upheaval build is more likely to be using something like a staff or 2H or 1H axes

maybe a lucerne or polearm

[frigid orbit]

This assumptions is of course lagging some more detailed information and not fully accurate! Be careful but it works at least to get some estimation on your mana consumption

lucerne: 0.68182 / 0.86 / (1+1.) = 0.39640697674 -> 2 to 3 attack per second. one mana regeneration affix, considering you have to move sometimes, should be enough

[calm depot]

So to get lightning shred blessing i just have to spam Lagon right? Nothing special i have to do to unlock it?

[dense root]

that's all yeah

[brittle atlas]

yep

just kill lagon, get lucky

[calm depot]

It's such a huge buff I just got to have it.

[dense root]

if you're not in empowered yet it might make sense to wait since the blessings have better rolls there

[cloud kernel]

Is there a list of what counts as a curse anywhere?

[brittle atlas]

the skills with the curse tag and marked for death

spirit plague, bone curse, marked for death

basically

[cloud kernel]

Ah. I was hoping there's be more than just those three things. It seems a little bit limited for how many other nodes seem to proc off hitting cursed enemies.

[brittle atlas]

there's some thinking that warlock might introduces some new/additional curses when we get it

[cloud kernel]

That would help, but there should be more in the base class.

I think part of why it feels so off to me is that a large portion of Harvest, including one of its root nodes, is dependent on hitting cursed enemies, which makes it feel like a pretty core mechanic. As it stands, you only have two active ways to apply curse, both of which come after Harvest, and a 3rd, passive option, that's a decent way down a mastery tree. Adding more curses in the third mastery would give more choice, but it still means you're stuck without options for quite a while.

[brittle atlas]

for the most part I think people just use bone curse or chance to apply on hit via reaper form

idk, it's basically only "core" to harvest

and I wouldn't call harvest core to lich or acolyte identity in general

[cloud kernel]

Harvest is presented as their auto attack replacement and, while it does seem to be the only skill that has so many nodes devoted to curses, they still show up in other skills.

I also didn't realize Reaper form could apply Mark for Death; the node doesn't highlight if you search curse, which is less than helpful.

[novel smelt]

Hey, bought LE recently and have a question - is progress in monolith shared between characters or not?

[snow spruce]

It is not

[fiery sedge]

hi! why my xp bar is progressing while im 100 lvl? what happens if its full?

[dense root]

nothing happens

[stone granite]

Because monoliths can be manipulated via corruption the devs do not want progress shared

[brittle atlas]

it resets back to empty

[acoustic thicket]

Hello, I don't understand how to finis this quest :

I already did 3 quests on the left :

This is 3 new quests

[vast charm]

250 stability

Sounds like a hint

[acoustic thicket]

I already done 400 stability

[bronze trellis]

so some monoliths can have multiple end paths

like multiple other timelines to unlock

[acoustic thicket]

I need to done 10 timelines ?

[bronze trellis]

the quest is asking you to complete both endings

[acoustic thicket]

oh okay

Sorry English isn't ma native language, I miss some things

[bronze trellis]

it's all good
I missed that myself

[stone granite]

Some stuff in the game still needs a little better explaining

what class would use a 2hander and do melee lightning damage?

[copper fable]

lightning bear springs to mind

Big fat lightning mauls

[dusky kite]

Spell blade but lightning is so-so unless you go the regular reave firebrand build but converted

The mana strike surge procs build has whack scaling

And tbh 2h is not very optimal on sb

[rare fjord]

3 points of chain lightning are enough for full hits with convergence?

[brittle atlas]

you basically just want an odd number of chains

since it rounds up

[rare fjord]

is lightning blast itself a chain?

[brittle atlas]

no

[pseudo dust]

do the "deadly if not damaged recently" mods stack? intuition says no, it's either deadly or not

[brittle atlas]

I believe it is binary

[brave ledge]

is having 100% critical strike avoidance all that is needed to be crit immune or is there any circumstance in which you would need more?

[copper fable]

if enemies could inflict crit vulnerability, that would matter. but they cant so far, so 100% is all you need.

[brave ledge]

k ty

[acoustic thicket]

hey, im new at the game, which resistances should i use to defeat the majasa snake boss? playin acolyte minion build, ty

[static glacier]

1. there is no need to beat her the moment you get there she is harder than the first 2 monos
2. its a very mechanical fight and has been done almost naked by many people so you can do it in whatever gear if you dodge what you should dodge
3. phys res helps a lot to give you more room for errors 🙂

[winged urchin]

Haven’t played since last march

Is multiplayer only for a test group?

I have tons of idols and items, have they been updated or do they stay as their legacy version?

[static glacier]

MP is not even in CT phase yet, and old items that got nummericaly changed (idols) have been updated

things like 3-4 suffixe belts and weapons with mana and so on from the very old crafting system didnt change

but guess that was more like 2019

[winged urchin]

So much to relearn, I’ll have to bother llama if anything if he’s still alive and playing this

[solar juniper]

He certainly answers lots of questions 😁

[winged urchin]

So he’s still alive and playing this then…shame

[static glacier]

maybe he is only playing it similutated in some excel sheet ... who knows

[winged urchin]

Probably, that’s my dad for you

[acoustic thicket]

Can someone help me understand this

What does this do in a practical situation

[copper fable]

hail of arrows does not hit, so it normally cant inflict ailements

this allows it to inflict bleeds despite not hitting

So if you have 600% chance to bleed, hoa now inflicts 6 bleeds per second, where as without special modifiers, it will never inflict bleeds

I think there is a strong HoA bleed build

[acoustic thicket]

oh its a dot skill I failed to see that

[frosty mirage]

That particular affix also converts to whatever damage type HoA is, but the chance to bleed is still what is converted in terms of chance

[acoustic thicket]

Is that chance to bleed per second with HoA any different from normal chance to bleed ? Can I convert it to ignite if I want for example

[frosty mirage]

Not ignite but there is a fire conversion where all of the damage is fire damage

It works well with the elemental arrow passives in MM

[spiral umbra]

Is "Tiger spirit" a seperate buff, or is it included in "primal shifter" and shareable to minions?

[azure lion]

is hungering souls cast by death knights affected by hungering souls tree?

[brittle atlas]

no

minions have their own skills and don't use your trees

[azure lion]

ah, that also explains summon scorpion casting ice thorns

thanks

[lilac coral]

any good crafters online who can spare me 5 mins to have a chat? I just got a really, really nice pair of boots that I don't want to brick...

[lilac coral]

sok sorted it

[rare fjord]

can spark charges stack up?

[supple cave]

is it possible to overwrite the implicit stats on an item base somehow?

[brittle atlas]

no

[supple cave]

my dream of fashion sets with useful stats, destroyed

[brittle atlas]

you can reroll the stats within their range, but there's no way to replace them, for example

[supple cave]

thats what I was interested in, thanks

[dreamy blade]

how on earth you avoid getting oneshot on lev 85 monolith dragon

[brittle atlas]

run away

you need I think...20% movement speed on character sheet minimum

more obviously makes it more forgiving

[dreamy blade]

hmm, ok, i got that part sorted out, but what heals him?

[balmy current]

I did it with 6%

Chill also makes it way easier

[brittle atlas]

ah yeah, chill would definitely make a difference

[brittle atlas]

you might have given him the modifier for enemies heal if not damaged recently?

[dreamy blade]

im not sure how to do that

[brittle atlas]

when you open this map on the bottom left, what are the modifiers?

[brittle atlas]

hmmm

[static glacier]

Well no frenzy and haste 😄

[brittle atlas]

ye idk normally I just dodge the explosion and the rest of the fight is just hitting him/not standing in the breath

[static glacier]

Usually frenzy n haste kills you 😬

Than its just a dodge thing the modifiers dont do anything relevant

[hasty tartan]

Can someone explain the benefits of Death Seal to me?

It seems like it's a DPS choice?

[brittle atlas]

you typically take the death lock node

[dusky kite]

Yes, turns endurance and low life passives on too

[brittle atlas]

which forces you to 35% hp

that gives you 65% more damage, 32.5% damage reduction

you then build endurance threshold high enough to match 35% of your hp

[hasty tartan]

Ah. Didn't think about endurance, thanks

[brittle atlas]

it also gives you armor based on missing hp

you can get quite a lot of armor on lich between death seal and reaper

[hasty tartan]

Cool - I just assumed it made you glassy. Thanks for the explanation, and for generally being helpful 🙂

[amber coral]

Guys i don't know if this is the right place to ask, but are the Act 9 idol slot expansions bugged? i completed the quests but i didn't get any expansion

[brittle atlas]

yeah, you're actually quite tanky in death seal

[hasty tartan]

There's a limit to how many expansions you can get.

[brittle atlas]

the maximum idol inventory size is the cross with the middle slot blocked

[amber coral]

So if i've already completed all quests before, those quest rewards are not applied?

[brittle atlas]

yep

[amber coral]

Quests that give expansions*

[amber coral]

Oh dang, didn't know

[brittle atlas]

there are more idol unlocks and skill point quests than needed to max out

[amber coral]

thanks for the help!

[brittle atlas]

you can see where you're at with that on the world map bottom left

it'll show how many passive and idol unlocks you've got vs the max

[amber coral]

right right, i'm already at 15/15 and 8/8, hence why i didn't get anything

[timber anvil]

is this build viable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ0T3hpfi_o&ab_channel=GAMEMONZTER

[spiral umbra]

Is bleed/poison blade flurry bladedancer still viable, and what tier would it be considered

[brittle atlas]

both are good, poison is absolutely, SSS+ busted op tier for dungeon boss farming and low-mid like 100-300 corruption mono farming

bleed is more flexible/well rounded for pushing corruption, but won't delete bosses like poison

[daring aurora]

can i get a boss drop unique with the rune of ascendance?

nvm, found the answer, its no

[pseudo dust]

Static orb got nerfed this patch, it's probably still viable but definitely not as good

[acoustic thicket]

just make an even better one than the build in the video

I hate this monster

spear throwing scarab mount guy reeeeee

How high can you get your block effectiveness ? does it go up in a linear graph and able to hit 100% or does it have diminishing returns the more you have

[dense root]

there's a cap

it's 85% i think

[brittle atlas]

yeah, up to 85% DR

because it's a curve

so it's pretty unlikely you get there

[hasty tartan]

Do specific unique type (unique helmet, ring, etc.) echoes spawn in non-empowered monoliths, or do only generic unique ones spawn?

[brittle atlas]

they can spawn in non-empowered

but are more common in empowered and with higher corruption

[hasty tartan]

Makes sense, thank you.

[torpid bone]

Does Frostbite Shackles really rare drop from Formosus or am I misinformed?

[brittle atlas]

it's a ~10-15% or so drop from Formosus

[torpid bone]

Oh ok got the other 3 (i guess) drops. Just RNG then

Does corruption and rarity change how bosses drops their uniques?

[brittle atlas]

yes

corruption improves rarity, and thus impacts boss unique drops

[torpid bone]

Thanks 🙂

[grand parrot]

Hey everyone! Has anyone had an issue with game files getting corrupted every patch? It has happened twice in the last week. Never had any other steam game with this problem.

[stone granite]

Nope, never even heard of that

Maybe your HD is bad

[acoustic thicket]

Does this penetration mod work for poison ?

[brittle atlas]

yes

all damage over times

however it is additive with the build in shred of poison, so not very impactful

[frosty tinsel]

Guys, I'm doing a Bleed Warpath Paladin (build planner --> https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/5Q0lZGQb) right now and I have about 170 chance to inflict a bleed.

1. How does bleed work in LE?
2. How much bleed chance do I need (the more the better?)?
3. What's the difference between "chance to Bleed on Hit while at high Health" vs "Chance to Bleed on Hit"?
4. Does adding shred to a bleed build make sense as another damage multiplier?

[stone granite]

Press G in game and search for bleed

The in game guide is pretty good for info like that

[brittle atlas]

1. 53 damage over 4 seconds per stack base.
2. more the better, over 100% is an additional stack per hit- ie 250% is 2 stacks per hit with a 50% chance for three.
3. Nothing, one is only active which you're over 65% hp, the other is always on. at high hp probably has higher roll range and you'll likely be max hp most of the time.
4. Yes, phys resist shred is great for bleed

[stone granite]

The biggest tip is you apply 1 stack of an ailment per 100% chance

[frosty tinsel]

Will do, thanks.

[frosty tinsel]

Thanks!

[stone granite]

Also mods like chance to bleed while at high health does not add to your bleed chance in your character sheet because it is conditional

[brittle atlas]

bleed at high hp does actually show on sheet if you're at high hp

[stone granite]

I was certain that conditional stats never showed

[brittle atlas]

but stats like "bleed on melee hit" don't show on sheet

[stone granite]

weirdly inconsistent

[brittle atlas]

it's because the conditional grants a generic stat

[frosty tinsel]

Thanks for the input guys!

[acoustic thicket]

you mean this is the kinda of the same thing poison does ? -4% res per poison

[brittle atlas]

yes

penetration and shred are additive with each other

[stone granite]

Not exactly

[brittle atlas]

so that 20-25% gets added onto whatever shred you have

if you have -500% from poison stacks it is now 525%, for example

[stone granite]

If by chance the target has 100% resist, 10% pen is better than 10% shred

[brittle atlas]

yeah, penetration works before the resist cap, but not super relevant in poisons case

[stone granite]

probably not relevant the majority of the time

[brittle atlas]

and most enemies will have 0% resists baseline, so rarely a consideration

[daring aurora]

does the Soul Barrier node of the Acolyte (gain ward when you drop below half life) also trigger if you already are below half life?

[acoustic thicket]

do bosses have resists ?

like poe has kinda of a base resists for bosses

[brittle atlas]

no

enemies have 0% resists unless they have text under their name that says otherwise

like profane flesh having necrotic res

[brave ledge]

when you give mobs % endurance via active modifiers, what is their threshold?

[acoustic thicket]

Doesn't it say like 30% ?

At least thats what I see on monolith mods

[brave ledge]

yea so that is 30% damage reduction

but that stat has 2 parts

[brittle atlas]

I think they just have the default threshold

of 20% max life

[brave ledge]

mkay

[acoustic thicket]

[brittle atlas]

hmmmm

[rare fjord]

I wanna play shuriken build, which one is better between dot and throwing dmg itself?

[brittle atlas]

imagine reading

[acoustic thicket]

I don't think shurikens dot is a good idea

I tried playing it but discovered umbral blades and they went away very quickly

[rare fjord]

yeah I've played ub dot build its dps is insane

I just wanna be Genji 😄

[stone granite]

does disintegrate care about cast speed?

or channel spells in general?

[vapid aspen]

In general no but sometimes yes

I think all channel skills that do care say so in description

[wheat saddle]

channeling for spells do not use cast speed

channeling for melee uses attack speed

for spells its considered damage over time

[vapid aspen]

Not always

Ele nova channeled for example

[wheat saddle]

mb

[hard magnet]

Hello

Does points spent in passive tree under the name of a certain ability only give bonus passive to that certain ability?

for example

[stone granite]

That's just a regular passive, it's not an ability

[hard magnet]

okay thank you

[stone granite]

your abilities have their own passive trees

[hard magnet]

Yeah I noticed now

[bronze trellis]

is the fire pen only on hits and not for DoTs

[brittle atlas]

it should also work with dots

[bronze trellis]

that's strong then
nice

[bronze trellis]

would it be a good idea to go for the double mega cooldown recovery nodes for Volatile Reversal
and just use it as a mega damage boost

while losing out on both mana and life resetting

if I branch out to both enemy takes inc damage nodes, my ignites would functionally do 90% more damage

[dense root]

i believe something along the lines of what you’re describing is rather common

[bronze trellis]

ahh so it's common then

I was thinking the mana reset would be useful, but you can also just reset your mana to 0 if you mistime it lmao

[brittle atlas]

yeah, if you don't need the mana aspect that setup is common

even if you do need the mana people will often still use it that, just without the no-mana point

it's a super strong debuff

[bronze trellis]

and I was wondering why everyone was using it lmao

I really need to look more deeply into skills

Traveler's Frailty seems really really bad

[fleet flicker]

Hi guys, I might be having a brain problem but I'm finding it hard to make a filter do what I want...which is to show relevant bases with relevant affixes. I seem to be able to do one or the other, just NOT both.

I can show you the filter in the relevant image.
What I want is literally to just show relevant bases with 2 good affixes, 3 good affixes, 4 good affixes, and HIDE everything else. I can show relevant bases and I can show that series of affixes but I cant combine them. Where in my filter do I do this?

do I literally need to do "recolor end game ___ if 3 of x affixes" for...everything?

[earnest nacelle]

If I understand you correctly, then you can reorder your rules to do what you want. Make the rules show the affixes first, then just hide all the bases you don’t want above that. This way, all the bases you don’t want won’t be shown, even if they have the affixes

like this @fleet flicker

[fleet flicker]

So instead of SHOWING bases, hide them, effectively?

[earnest nacelle]

yeah

[fleet flicker]

Do you know why that is easier than showing bases? is subtractive easier than additive basically?

[earnest nacelle]

so all that'll get through is items with the affixes you want on good bases

there's probably a way to make it work with showing bases too

actually, maybe not, I vaguely remember running into this issue a while ago

[fleet flicker]

It must be something Im doing on my end

or maybe not idk tbh

[earnest nacelle]

if you wanted to do it with showing bases, you'd probably have to hide the affixes you don't want instead? so the way the filter is, it's way easier to show the affixes you do want than to hide the ones you don't

I think you do have to hide the bases you don't want

[fleet flicker]

so if you wanted to include shattering/exalted stuff, youd do

show all unique/set
show exalted bases
show rules for shattering
hide bad bases
show idols with x affixes
show items with x affixes

would I even need to show all items at the end?

or is that a re-assurance that you didnt fuck anything up basically

[earnest nacelle]

no that was a mistake, that should actually be hide all items at the bottom

if that show all items at the bottom is there, then you'd see all good bases regardless of affixes

[fleet flicker]

Gotcha!

[brave ledge]

as pure phys build with high attack speed, if you have armour shred is phys pen giving a lot of damage increase or not really? pondering phys pen vs crit chance (on non-critstack build)

[dusky kite]

The two don't interact.

[static glacier]

Phys Pen is enemy res multiplier and armor shred is independent multiplier ...
If you do not allreday have phys pen the first 5-15% will usually beat als other affixe

But its quite some math to give an exact answer

[knotty juniper]

Are some of the "+ Level of X" affixes a lot rarer than other? I've only seen a single Flame Reave so far but others I have 20 of

[fringe pawn]

Is "scales of eterra" abilities triggered by skills that arent directly cast

[acoustic thicket]

Does this work for poison ?

[stone granite]

No. Poison is not affected by how much damage the hit that applies it has.

[stone granite]

It's possible you are filtering some out. They all have equal rarity.

[stone granite]

Triggers can't trigger

[static glacier]

Yes

The poison applied by that attack should benefit

Doesnt say "hit"

Its only increased so no big effect

[timber anvil]

guys what is the best build or someone's recommendation on a build for Mage

[acoustic thicket]

What if the source says increased/more damage with x skill ?

[static glacier]

Works as long as its not "hit" or "spell"

50% more damage with skill x Works on the alliments caused by that skill

[past sequoia]

Hello every1, would anybody know if thats a known issue and if there's a fix to it, or is just my pc acting up?

happens randomly aswell, sometimes i can play for 10 hours fine, then the next time it happens after i enter 3rd area

and a 2nd issue i've found, any time i close LE or the game crashes, steam shows as i'm still ingame, and i cannot start the game but to crash whole steam client and restart it

[daring aurora]

does the Soul Barrier node of the Acolyte (gain ward when you drop below half life) also trigger if you already are below half life?

[noble rose]

It shouldn't, since it is supposed to give you ward when you get to low life rather then while at low life, if that makes sense

[tired kite]

I haven't seen this effect. But I do have every kind of monster over-the-head bars turned off.
As for your Steam crashes, I can assure you don't need to stop the Steam client and restart. You should find an LE process floating around in Task Manager.

[brittle atlas]

I've only experienced this while streaming, so I'd assume it's due to some kind of system load

[lethal crane]

i guess it doesnt scale consecrate ground dmg?

[brittle atlas]

it should based on wording

[robust talon]

those "hits" we are talking of basic common hit damage
for exemple vs Orobyss, what is a "hit"
just when he touch you with his melee claw-hand ?

or also his skills?

[brittle atlas]

a lot of his skills hit too

but many are also dots

the line meteor, sequence circle explosions, projectile novas, the portal projectile, the orbitting ice projectiles, the fire cone, the fire balls, the blood balls, the tracking void balls, his melee, his charge, his delayed small explosion...

a lot of hits

[robust talon]

amazing thank u a lot , u r helping me a ton

[charred musk]

if you stack all of the +stun % chance possible for Hammer Throw, will you ever reach a threshold where you're able to stun bosses? has that been tested? or is it never enough stun chance to do so?

[bronze trellis]

you can stun echo bosses at least

other bosses would require much bigger individual hits

[tired kite]

Bosses high health make stun virtually useless against them. At least in the current implementation.

[charred musk]

k thanks

[gleaming cipher]

theres no way to change the mastery? I don't wanna do all the story chapters for 3rd time this week

[brittle atlas]

Mastery is a permanent choice, yes.

[gleaming cipher]

:S so ill dont play void knight any time soon

[daring aurora]

does reflected damage scale with anything? is it physical damage?

also, does Thornshell increase any Flat Damage Reflected, or just the one on itself?

[acoustic thicket]

Whats a ring shard ?

I have options between bow, two-handed spear or ring shard drop blessings

[bronze trellis]

I'm guessing ring affix shards

[fierce kraken]

@charred musk while this is true you can use certain skills to guarentee stuns. As VK you have access to both anomaly and Shield bash

[charred musk]

@fierce kraken thank you, yea I chose Paladin however, just respec'd out of shield bash to try sigils of hope, it gives a nice boost to my dmg without sacrificing defense too much so far

[severe oasis]

I was going to submit a bug report on this but I figure I'd ask here for your opinions first.

I have multiple Idols on my character that give "+% Chance to apply Frostbite on hit with Cold skills" . When looking at my Character Sheet > Other tab, it shows Frostbite Chance as 0. Am I misunderstanding what that Idol is supposed to be providing me?

Thanks!

[brittle atlas]

The sheet only shows generic/global stats

So it can only display “chance to apply frostbite on hit” currently, even if you’ve got more specific frostbite sources

But you’re still get that idols effect on your cold skills

[severe oasis]

Ahhh ok. That makes sense. Awesome, thanks for the explanation!

[brittle atlas]

Improvements and a rework of the character sheet is in the pipeline, so hopefully we get some much needed expansion to it with all of the relevant stats soon

[charred musk]

does "reroll all implicits" rune change the implicits randomly or does it only change their numerical values?

[balmy current]

it only changes the numerical value

[charred musk]

sweet, ty

i just got my first awesome amulet so im crafting it carefully 😄

[brave ledge]

is there a certain level I can use to "hide below" all magic item which ends up not hiding rare to find affixes?

[pseudo dust]

I think most people just require more affixes and higher individual/total tiers for the stuff that gets shown

[balmy current]

no, just recolour the affixes you want & hide the magic items

[hasty tartan]

I've been playing a flame reave character to 64, and manage 80k crits on the dummy sometimes - is that decent?

My gear besides sunwreath is mostly meh

[dreamy blade]

i dont understand the quest to discover remaining branch here

[bronze trellis]

it's not necessary to do anymore, but that quest unlocks a way to get to another one of the monoliths

[balmy current]

during one of the quest echoes you would have been given a choice which results in one of the monos being opened up, so "all" you need to do is re-run the quest echoes & choose differently

[dreamy blade]

thanks

[charred musk]

are the electrify nodes important for smite or is the initial damage more critical than + electrify effect?

I'm going down into Sacrifice for +200% dmg instead of taking all of the bonus lightning bolts and such

[gleaming cipher]

I'm having problems to gear my character.
I can't remove an specific afix from an item right? It has to be random...

[bronze trellis]

it has to be random, but if it's not T5 you can chaos it to randomize what it will upgrade into

[gleaming cipher]

@bronze trellis so basically doing this?

[bronze trellis]

yes

[gleaming cipher]

thats the best way to get the desired afixes i guess

got it

[bronze trellis]

it's not a full removal though, and most of the time you'll get something not that useful

but it can potentially change a bad affix into a less bad affix

[gleaming cipher]

its a little bit frustrating tbh xD

How do I know the affixes that can roll?

[bronze trellis]

looking it up in the Last Epoch database I guess

[balmy current]

Depends whether you're going for an electrify/DoT build or not

[balmy current]

There's a rune of removal which removes a specific affix

[bronze trellis]

quick tip about rune of removal

if you find an item that's bad but like you want to yoink some affix shards off of it

you can use runes of removal instead of shattering the entire thing

since runes of removal guarantee you receive shards, while shattering does it all in one go but doesn't guarantee

[gleaming cipher]

I see, thanks for the tip 🙂

Uniques or legendary are not that important to create a build in this game... or thats the impresion I have about it

You just need exalted items

[stone granite]

Uniques can be very good and legendary potential can make an okay unique very good

A legendary with 3 or 4 LP will often be strictly better than an exalted item because it inherits the exalted mods, plus whatever the unique does

[gleaming cipher]

But like in other games, your skill wont change what it does, normally, I mean, the main goal is to get the best exalted items you can, because uniques have fixed afixes if I'm not wrong

[stone granite]

Well uniques can add more to your build you can't otherwise gain from regular items. They are very useful.

For instance if you are doing void DoT void knight, you need uniques to get the Doom DoT, it doesn't exist otherwise

Getting even 1 LP on a unique can really make it so much better if it hits a good mod

[gleaming cipher]

I was looking for good dagger for the umbral blade rogue, but looks like theres no good unique ones for that purpose

[stone granite]

Yeah there's no good wands for my sorc either

[fiery sedge]

hi what corruption is good to farm LP 2+ unique items?

[dense root]

corruption doesn't influence the chances for a unique to have legendary potential

more corruption does increase the number of total uniques you drop which will increase the number of uniques with any amount of lp though

really you should just always be doing the highest corruption your build can anyway

[gleaming cipher]

the item level drop is based on your level or the zone level?

[dense root]

zone level

for lp at least

[fiery sedge]

if i combine the blessings for bow drop rate and uniques drop rate, will have better chance for uniques to be bows?

[snow spruce]

More bows will drop, more uniques will drop -- so, more unique bows will drop, but only because more uniques will drop, not because more bows will drop. I hope that makes sense

[brave ledge]

I'd need a list of all rare affixes in that case to show for shattering purposes on magic items

[balmy current]

Those are generally the class-specific affixes, everything else is fairly common

[brave ledge]

all 265 class specific ones and zero of any other?

[dense root]

after leveling a couple character it's been my experience that i basically only ever need more of the class specific shards yeah

for a bit i did show a couple of the common affixes that i used more often in crafting (like health) but eventually i just naturally stockpiled enough

[brittle atlas]

imo I would just only show stuff for current character and next character then some generic stuff

better to just blast content and pick up shards off the ground than to shatter tons and tons of stuff you might eventually use

you'll get the point of having a massive surplus of things relatively quickly

[brave ledge]

physical penetration uncommon? not class-specific and I only have 2

[balmy current]

RNG is RNG

[brittle atlas]

it's "rare" according to tunk lab

[brave ledge]

ah, I'll judge by that site then ty

[long star]

multiplayer

woops

meant to search that, lol

[urban sable]

any build stupidly good this patch?

[sly brook]

has anyone seen exalted belts as an echo reward?

[brittle atlas]

I don't think belts/boots/gloves have nodes?

[dim crater]

Where does everyone grind gear? I just got to the end era or whatever it’s called. There is a place called monolith of fate or something

[dense root]

monoliths and dungeon

[dim crater]

I’m still pretty lost in this game but it’s tons of fun so far

[brittle atlas]

the monolith is one of the endgame systems, starts at zone level 58

[dim crater]

Yea I tried it. Got pretty far I think but it kicked my ass

I’m lvl 25 or something like that

[bronze trellis]

you did it a wee bit early

[brittle atlas]

ye, the quests you're looking for is off to the north west up the big spiral staircase

[frosty tinsel]

Does this item drop only from Argentus on a empowered timeline or can it drop from a normal one too?

[brittle atlas]

only from empowered argentus

[frosty tinsel]

Ok ty o/

[bronze trellis]

when a skill scales off of an attribute, does the damage increase also apply to DoTs from said skills

[brittle atlas]

yes

[bronze trellis]

nice

[charred musk]

@dim crater the game gets easier as you figure it out, try following a build guide from youtube if you are struggling to find a good build on your own. working on crafting the right stats (health and resists) on gear early is a great boost to your defense and survivability, of course move around a lot and don't stand in dmg on the ground

[dim crater]

I’m getting there. It’s a lot to figure out compared to Diablo 2 that I’ve been playing for years lol

[stone granite]

You are way, way behind then. So many better games have come out since D2.

[rare fjord]

how does 'increase damage granted' keyword work actually? additive with global bonus or multiplicative?

[bronze trellis]

can you show a screenshot of that keyword in context

[wild laurel]

does explosions scale with spell damage mean it benefits from +adaptive spell damage

[bronze trellis]

adaptive spell damage is just spell damage that changes to the spell's element tag, so it should

[wild laurel]

say from this node

[snow spruce]

All increased damage sources that apply to a skill when it deals damage are added together -- the formula for damage (simplified) is essentially ((base_damage + added damage)* increased_damage * (more_damage1 * more_damage2 ... * more_damageX))

[wild laurel]

ok followup question is this a decent way to scale my explosion damage

[brittle atlas]

increased is additive

[bronze trellis]

ahh yeah that's just increased damage that's added all together with your other increased damage sources

[rare fjord]

oh all the 'increase' keywords are additive?

got it

[bronze trellis]

almost all of them yeah

sometimes the increased applies in a different way

[urban sable]

any reason to discover all the branches in a timeline?

that seems like its going to take ages

[bronze trellis]

like if an enemy takes increased damage, it's still additive but essentially multiplicative to your damage

[rare fjord]

aha thank you so much

[snow spruce]

That doesn't really apply to the player though.

[bronze trellis]

yeah, I just provided it as an example as it's worded as increased damage, but it's the enemy taking increased damage and not you having increased damage

[stone granite]

Are you referring to a monolith? Because they are infinite

[charred musk]

@dim crater this is the build I'm using, I stacked resists on gear until I had 75% all resists at around lvl 50 ish and was able to defeat all of the campaign content with hammer throw, I use rebuke instead of the void ability though, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa2eTOgEmh0&t=202s&ab_channel=EpochBuilds while leveling I worked on getting % increase throwing damage and % increase throwing speed on as many items as possible, and also rings that have -3 throwing attack mana cost, with two of the rings and the reduce mana nodes in the hammer throw tree my cost was 0 so i could spam it all day. just a suggestion, but you might like it if you like Hammerdin from D2 🙂

you might not find the needed idols/equipment for smite (I didn't until I started end game) but its not needed

[urban sable]

its the quest for each monolith area, i think it may mean the lvl 62 zone as opposed to the lvl 66 that i chose

[charred musk]

DM me if you want a custom loot filter for this hammerdin build I'll share mine that might help u with loot u will want to pick up

[stone granite]

Oh you don't have to go both ways on the monoliths, they will all unlock when you hit empowered

the right branch has blessings that are buffs for you, the left branch has blessings for drops

[dense root]

you definitely do have to go both ways it’s just generally better to do the left side in empowered

[wild laurel]

where do people get crit chance usually

besides base crit on weapon

for a spellblade flame reave

[south jasper]

I have a question that might exist, or might be planned, but I'm not sure:

In games like this, I tend to love the end game, seasons, and things like that, but I hate having to re-grind the story over and over. I know Diablo 3 has the adventure mode, which lets you, in essence, skip the story and push towards a faster end-game.

Does Last Epoch have something like that, or a similar way to quickly finish the store on your other characters so you can enjoy the endgame? Or is there a recommended speed-leveling way to make the story trivial once you've already completed it?

I'm not saying I dislike the story and don't want to run it, I enjoyed the story very much so, but I'd like to try different builds, classes, etc., without having to re-run the story every time.

[wheat saddle]

it does not

[south jasper]

Thanks!

[robust talon]

morning, do u know if this works for channeled flury.
in my opinion this counts only as basic hit,
so if you channel flurry and hit for exemple 10 monsters
you still get only 2%

but instead if you
hit stop hit stop hit stop... (without keep pressing flurry) it instead will work, after hitting those monsters of the previous exemple

?correct?
i have problem understanding how channeled skills interact with the tag hit

[unkempt sonnet]

как оно считает? пишет 22 поинта ,а скинуто 25 же?

[topaz parrot]

is there any way to get more stash tabs in-game w/o having to pay real money? some guy in the chat said its possible, is it?

[paper wasp]

How do I open a new path to a different time line in the monolith. E.g. From "Fall of the outcasts" I went to "The black sun" but now I want to go to "The stolen lance"?

[robust talon]

repet the timeline 1 , to unlock 62 and 66

[robust talon]

u pay ingame gold to get more stash tabs, who said real money?

[robust talon]

it happened to me once , you have 25 point spent but says 22, really weird,
i dont remember what triggered it

[unkempt sonnet]

i got the ask ) sorry for trigger

[robust talon]

это случилось со мной однажды, я потратил 25 очков, но там написано 22, действительно странно,
я не помню, чем это вызвано

[balmy current]

That's because they moved the chain/divider left 3 points & that's what the game uses to cap the non-mastered masteries.

[robust talon]

hmmm i m not sure i v got you this time, can you teach me ?
so i can write to that person in russian in private

[topaz parrot]

oh wow, thanks, I thought we'd have to use the coins we get after purchasing the supporter packs :]

[stone granite]

Stash tabs get increasingly expensive in the game so expect to save all your gold for them

[robust talon]

nono this is one of the thing amazing in this game, u litterally have infinite stash tags , and you buy them with simply ingame gold,
and you r gonna make a lot of it by doing end game stuff.
and drop tons of things , so you will use a lot of gold to buy more ingame stash,
you can also go into your city treasure store,
and press "+" to see the cost of each stash
(they get incremental price ,esponential)

[topaz parrot]

yeah I see, I got to the point where if I wanna buy a new one I gotta pay like 40k gold, its good to know u can use in-game gold for getting as many tabs as u want / need tho, thanks guys ^^

[vapid aspen]

"as many as you want" no. You will never have enough tabs even with infinite gold.

[fleet flicker]

I dont have a lot of context for end game and empowered monoliths, but if I can clear 85 monoliths with a lvl 78 char, is it likely this build can get to 100 empowered monoliths?

Id ofc need gear upgrades I just want to know if this means my build has a decent foundation

[stone granite]

Empowered monoliths are a difficulty jump

There's just no way to answer your question specifically

[dusky kite]

More or less every build can get to empowered, low level monos are easy

[static glacier]

single animat armor build is one if not the strongest minion build in the game

[topaz parrot]

can I use a glyph of despair on a t5 prefix?

[bronze trellis]

no, since you're unable to upgrade that prefix anymore

[topaz parrot]

alri, ty

[bronze trellis]

either way, the higher the tier of affix the less rate of success

[bronze trellis]

So, Forge Strike has a node that allows increased stun chance to also be equivalent to increased damage over time
my question is
does melee specific stun chance also get converted? particularly from this affix

[stone granite]

My guess is no

[robust talon]

what are Tendrils?
i am unable to understand
i v tried to press ALT also went in buildplanner tool, but no infos

[bronze trellis]

I might ask in #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs then

[snow spruce]

What why? Other conversions of this type work that way.

[stone granite]

Because stun chance is a different stat than stun chance with melee attacks, even in your character sheet

[shadow fractal]

when MP comes, will there be wipe or do we just have to create a new character?

[bronze trellis]

just a new character

[shadow fractal]

ty.. so i can stack things for prep

[stone granite]

no

Your current stuff will not be part of multiplayer

[brittle atlas]

Current characters are offline only

[stone granite]

All your characters are offline currently

[shadow fractal]

oh that change severything

ok ok wow

[brittle atlas]

You’ll need to make new characters for online, which will be entirely separate from offline

[stone granite]

Nothing matters, not even Arborus's legacy items

[brittle atlas]

With no crossover

[copper fable]

there just isnt gonna be a wipe, you can still play with your old offline stash and characters

[shadow fractal]

ok thx thats huge

[brittle atlas]

Existing characters will stick around- there won’t be a wipe there, but yeah

[shadow fractal]

there wont be a wipe of existing.. buts thats OFfline and i doubt anyone will care anymore of the offline mode...

[copper fable]

depends on if EHG decides to let mods in offline be a thing

[brittle atlas]

Depends, there are definitely people who have mentioned not caring about multiplayer and wanting to make sure offline is still available

[robust talon]

@stone granite
i swear i am unable to see or understand what a tendril is
i have tried even +6 tendrils , and "no tendrils"
but can t see difference when testing and hitting mobs

[brittle atlas]

When static orb explodes, it makes tendrils which hit a few extra things, it looks kind of like a lightning blast coming from the orb

[robust talon]

hmmmmm i must be really blind, but i swear i am unable to see, can t understand if it is a bis\must in static orb cold build or not at this point xd

[brittle atlas]

I wouldn’t typically invest in more beyond traveling through that node to get other stuff

[fleet flicker]

Do you guys know of a way to search for an open affix?

[charred musk]

is this ring better overall or Siphon of Anguish https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzAsEYHZKA for hammer smite

[vapid aspen]

for what build?

I guess you can slot siphon and be fine

Definitely not an ideal ring for what you're running

[acoustic thicket]

When do vendors refresh their shop ?

And does leech stop/reset at full life in this game like poe?

[balmy current]

Yes

[tired kite]

Every 15 minutes.

[bronze trellis]

is Tu'rani's Bident bugged? I keep hearing stuff about a spear being bugged and not working in some way

[brittle atlas]

The conversion parts of it don’t work at all to my knowledge

[bronze trellis]

ahh okay
I was wondering why it has conversion on it while the tree also has easy to get conversion that acts the same

for javelin

[brittle atlas]

If it worked it would potentially save some points

[bronze trellis]

wouldn't you want the electrifying chance behind it though?

good to know it's just the conversion on it though, I was thinking about some really weird electrify build using javelin and smite in a cycle

another question
can siege barrage hit a single enemy multiple times? or are the javelins spread out in a way that there's minimal / no overlap

[copper fable]

they can, it is really tight

[bronze trellis]

tight as in it's a small area of overlap, or tight as in cool 😎

lmao, thanks yalls!

[copper fable]

yeah its tight as in small area 😏

But also, yes both.

[bronze trellis]

since most bosses are pretty big I doubt it'll be an issue then

imma try this electrify build

that I thought in my head with literally no planning

[meager lily]

hello i come here to ask again

if last epoch is online ?

or is it still offline

[balmy current]

!multiplayer

[ripe brook]

Multiplayer is still being worked on. Here's an update: https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/official-last-epoch-multiplayer-faq/42036.

[wild laurel]

are there any good damage suffixes for weapons on a melee axe build

(flame reave, using radiant axe)

[meager lily]

thank you sir

[balmy current]

Only ailments. Suffixes tend to be more defensive (like chill or life on hit).

[bronze trellis]

oof that javelin rain is
a really tight area

[copper fable]

yeah its good for bossing but makes clearing a bit sketchy

its been my issue with jav since its introduction. I really like the jav rain but have been unable to make it feel good for mono running 😦

[bronze trellis]

I may perhaps use electrify smite with the lightning bolts to clear

if javelin rain really be feeling like that later on

[reef berry]

Hey - new player here.. is the Necromancer class fun to play?

[acoustic thicket]

elemental pen is purely for the same 3 elements that elemental res provides right?

[snow spruce]

Yes

[crimson granite]

Hello, just wanted to ask if items can share with other characters?

[snow spruce]

There is a stash that you can use to transfer items between characters in the same mode

[crimson granite]

Okay. Thank you 🙂

[reef berry]

🙏

[trim heath]

I think it's a ton of fun to play but I'm pretty biased.

[charred musk]

this game does a good job at being forgiving for new players, and the learning curve isn't so bad, a lot of questions you will have can be answered easily enough. play whatever appeals to you and experiment, then if you feel like you're hitting a wall maybe consider a popular build guide @reef berry

[reef berry]

Thank you.

[sudden perch]

Can someone recommend me a build that is like....tanky and with minimal effects for an older computer? FPS has been rough

[stone granite]

bleed paladin

[sudden perch]

I'll check it out, thanks

[polar bough]

when making legendary helmets, can you use class specific exalted helmets?

[snow tusk]

how do you get a red unique item? I have like 2 or 3 uniques that have that special potential, I think thats part of it?

[dense root]

unique with legendary potential + exalted with four unsealed affixes

you combine them in the eternity cache at the end of the dungeon

[snow tusk]

and what is an unsealed affix?

just a 4stat item that isn't crafted?

[dense root]

there’s a glyph that seals affixes

[snow tusk]

oh so use none of those on the exalted item

[dense root]

nah you can still use them

[snow tusk]

but an exalted item usually has 1 stat that is a tier above max, so does the stat matter?

[dense root]

it’ll make sense how they’re used if you drop the glyph

[snow tusk]

lets say I use a helmet with exalted life regen, will that be the mod that is put on the unique with legendary potential?

[dense root]

the stats on the exalted item matter yeah

when you make a legendary item it will keep all the properties of the original unique and will also have one random affix from the exalted item for each legendary potential your unique had

[snow tusk]

ok I think I get it

I got that scythe that looks like Diablo 1 concept art so I guess I'll try to make a build with that

[fleet flicker]

Something I'd love clarification on. A lot of skills can be cast INDIRECTLY. Say skill 1 causes skill 2 to be cast. Skill 2 can be specced into having X, Y, Z feature that may or may not cost mana. Will these features be present when indirectly casted?

Do I assume that anything I spec into on Skill 2 will apply to indirect casts as long as the skill 2 nodes dont say specifically "only when directly casted"?

[snow spruce]

Yes, that's generally the case. Minion skills with names of subskills that the player has (Ex. Skeleton mage and sacrifice) will not, minion skills do not use player skill trees.

[fleet flicker]

So there's something vague about Smite and Sacrifice (deals x% of health upon cast for more dmg)...If I have something that can automatically proc smite then technically I am not casting it, but it is being casted. So would I lose health? or not get the damage bonus? I could try to mess with this in game but in reading, I'm not so sure

[rocky anchor]

Hello guys. After beta (on launch game), all characters created previously (in beta) will be deleted? Only to be sure, you know

[snow spruce]

Your current characters will not be wiped, we're still unsure what will happen on game launch to characters we create when multiplayer is released.

[stone granite]

When my teleport triggers elemental nova it uses all the passives that I have specced into elemental nova

[charred musk]

for the Vengeance skill, is there any way to extend its duration for riposte beyond the 2 second window?

[tired kite]

What do you mean? Do you know what will happen or not?

[static glacier]

Yes

[static glacier]

The offline Chars are at your hdd noone can wipe them. Mp will be Server based so non of your Chars from now will ever play this

[static glacier]

Sacrifie works on procced smites
... in every way 😄

The double cast e.g. wont work and its wording is different consequently

[cloud kindle]

That really depends on what YOU like. Some will say yes, some will not. Personnaly, I love Necromancer and find her fun to play.

[acoustic thicket]

Am I going crazy? +flat melee phys damage will NOT increase my umbral blades damage, right? Because I overheard something and now im confused

[acoustic thicket]

key word: Melee
Umbral Blades is Throwing

Exactly, that's what I thought, i listened a bit more and realized it's based on Shadow Daggers, which is why he's running flat melee stuff on a umbral build.
Thanks anyway

[acoustic thicket]

Oh if you mean for shadowdaggers it's doing it with the fact that it's scaling the damage there and not directly in the umbral blades

Yeah, I only played one other rogue build before this so Shadow Daggers is new to me

[stiff summit]

does corruption increase timeline stability rewards or is it just affected by distance ?

[topaz parrot]

what's the max lp an unique item can have?

[earnest nacelle]

4

[frigid orbit]

It increases the stability gain up to around 500 corruption. First nodes will give up to 50 corruption at the end.

[topaz parrot]

is there any way of increasing the chance of dropping a unique with 4lp?

[amber notch]

Higher area level

[frigid orbit]

And in some way rarity: More uniques -> more LP uniques (absolute not relative)

[static glacier]

Sacriefy first born to the void obviously ... small bonus for adding wife 😄

[topaz parrot]

ok, good to know, thanks!

[stiff summit]

thanks for the info

[torpid bone]

Hi I'm kinda new around here and I don't know if this have been asked but is it possible to disable auto aim when playing with a controller?

[frigid orbit]

How does it interact when I sacrify multiple wives? Do they stack?

[terse aspen]

Hello, I'd like to get Twisted Heart of Uhkeiros, it is a rare drop, so does having more corruption give me more chances to get it ?

[fierce kraken]

yes, technically its Increased item rarity increases your chances but corruption comes with that.

[terse aspen]

Ok ok 🙂

Never done much corruption before, I'm lvl 82, how much should I get to have fair chances of getting it ?

[frigid orbit]

Are you sure about that. I thought the same. But Mike recently said something in the ask-the-dev thread: #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

[stone granite]

Corruption helps get more uniques, it doesn't help get rarer uniques directly

[fierce kraken]

The drop chance of the empowered specific drop now scales with the timeline’s increased item rarity
There is a new unique drop for each timeline boss that is not empowered specific, but which has a drop chance that similarly scales with the timeline’s increased item rarity.

from the sands of Majasa patch notes

[frigid orbit]

Ah. Nice. Thank you!

[terse aspen]

So Twisted Heart of Uhkeiros scale with timeline's item rarity ?

[fierce kraken]

Yes

[frigid orbit]

Yeah. But if you are not at empowered already I think corruption pushing isnt worth it

[solar briar]

Is it items from beta cant be transfer to final release?

[terse aspen]

Well

I just need the item for my build

[frigid orbit]

Items from now will be not accessible in multiplayer.

[terse aspen]

So it's the first thing i'm trying to get rn

Dunno if I should push corruption a bit or do multiple runs

[frigid orbit]

Is it really a requirement? Most of the time going fast to empowered is better than farming in non-empowered for a unique. At least in my experience.

[stone granite]

If your build requires a very rare unique, you shouldn't be doing that build without it

[terse aspen]

Not require but is a huge advancement

[fierce kraken]

if you need it before empowered then get as much IIR before doing the boss but after doing the first 2 quests

[terse aspen]

In term of survivability

But I don't understand, what's this empowered thing ? Like, a better version of uniques ?

[stone granite]

Higher level monoliths

better drops

[bronze trellis]

I've been thinking about it a bit
is it even worth it to cap out endurance threshold + percentage?

at the absolute max you just take 60% less damage

but you need to invest quite a bit into maxing endurance out

[terse aspen]

Ok, but it's the same unique then

[fierce kraken]

for mana taken before life builds it is worth it

[bronze trellis]

gotcha

[fierce kraken]

also if you are focused on recovery endurance threshold makes that recovery more valuable

[bronze trellis]

I was thinking about how much endurance threshold you'd need to fully cover your entire health pool

[dense root]

a lot

[bronze trellis]

which requires affix slots which could go into just more health

[dense root]

yeah endurance threshold sharing slots with health is rough since increasing your health just also increases your threshold anyway

[fierce kraken]

if you dont have any inc hp then threshold is better point for point (and i think they have about the same value). IIRC

[bronze trellis]

if you have the max endurance percentage of 60%, then each point of threshold is 60% of a point of life

1000 life and 1000 endurance threshold is 1.6k ehp total

[fierce kraken]

not 1.6k ehp

[bronze trellis]

but from what I've seen, endurance threshold affixes aren't very high value

[dense root]

this isn't true

[bronze trellis]

how so?
am I doing the math wrong on endurance

[dense root]

60% endurance means you take 40% damage

so you have 2.5x the effective health

[bronze trellis]

yeah I did do the math wrong then

woops

nevermind what I was saying then

[fierce kraken]

10 points of hp adds 13 ehp when at 60% endurance

10 points of endurance threshold adds 15 ehp at 60% endurance

[bronze trellis]

yeah, endurance seems a lot better now that I have the math right lmao

still would have to max endurance but sentinel has passives for that

[fierce kraken]

the math does shift to hp's favor once you inc hp

[bronze trellis]

you would also have to have endurance threshold not capped for each extra amount to have an effect

then over cap it does nothing until you get more life

[fierce kraken]

One thing that Nugi pointed out when he was playing was that Endur Threshold gets way better than hp at t6 &t7 too

[bronze trellis]

yeah, by a decent amount

[fierce kraken]

its also better at the lower tiers so if you can only get a t1 or t2 on a slot threshold might be better

ever so slightly mind you

[bronze trellis]

I might try out doing something with endurance

[brittle atlas]

60% endurance is a must on every HP based build imo

Endurance Threshold is much more niche

Increased Health makes HP better in basically every situation in terms of EHP

[dense remnant]

@fierce kraken are you taking into account that health increases, also increase endurance threshold?

health is increasing ehp with more than one value

(also at lower tiers its not really a useful comparison, cus you need endurance capped first, before threshold is worth it)

[terse aspen]

For the rune of ascendance, does the category of item is important ? Like for relics there's different ones, does it matter ? Or does it change the item into a random unique relic, not regarding the original appearance ?

[brittle atlas]

It’s just item type

[dense remnant]

i could see t6/7 endurance threshold outclassing health, only if you havent got increased health where you can

[brittle atlas]

So any relic can become any unique relic

[terse aspen]

Ok ty

[brittle atlas]

Yeah, in any situation where you’re building an HP based character as you should (maximizing increased health, basically) endurance threshold isn’t going to compete IMO

But for things like Death Seal or Fractured Crown, endurance threshold is good

[dense remnant]

yeah

also you're only getting it on rings over added health

helmet has increased armour, and if endurance threshold is better than added health, increased armor is going to be better in most situations

belt is % on both suffixes

gloves is hybrid and then a whole lot to take into account

[brittle atlas]

Increased armor being better is interesting, what are the numbers on that? Is that only with base armor on items?

[dense remnant]

ive only seen it with the last few builds i've done

which to be fair have been sentinel (vk specifically)

but increased armor and health has been getting close

they feel very very well balanced tbh

like i could happily take either if i got t5+

[brittle atlas]

I could see it being the case on lich perhaps with it getting so much flat armor via death seal and reaper form

[stone granite]

Increased armor only good if you already have a lot

[dense remnant]

yeah, i think armour is underated a lot atm

[brittle atlas]

The only thing to dislike about armor is it not protecting vs DoTs imo

[dense remnant]

yup

i think id feel less comfortable with armor over health if i was pushing mono's

with arena the dot weakness is less of an issue cus cleanse, and knowing exactly what's going to happen to you

[noble rose]

Noticed how strong armour is when playing my reflect spriggan, although they get a silly amount

[frigid orbit]

It is great as a second defense layer since it scales very strong early on

[noble rose]

It's just a but tricky to fit in for a lot of builds, cause I really don't wanna craft it on my gear personally

[terse aspen]

Does "rare ennemies" (enemy modifiers in timelines) include bosses ? Like the last bosses of timelines

[frigid orbit]

no

[terse aspen]

Oof

Just got a +80% enemy health and damage, started to worry

[stone granite]

Yeah mods can be rough sometimes

[stone granite]

Has anyone gotten LP on an ascended unique?

[copper fable]

Yes

I got a 2LP rainbow edge

[stone granite]

Ouch

[copper fable]

but I have used maybe 30 runes since the patch and most of them just have 0 LP

[stone granite]

Yeah I was trying for a bleeding heart

[dense root]

i got lp on a couple

[copper fable]

when asked mike said the runes make an item as if you are level 100, but then there is a penalty to the LP

[dense root]

best was 2lp darkstride

didn't hit ms though so

[copper fable]

So if you have lots of runes, it seems okay for really easy drop items to get 1/2 lp stuff, but other then that its kinda meh

[stone granite]

Yeah I'll probably use the runes strictly on amulets and boots

I'd be happy with even 1lp transient rest

[acoustic thicket]

Is cold dot totem a build ?

with that summon storm totem

is that viable

[copper fable]

I wouldnt over invest in trying to make the dot do big damage

its just really nice for trash monsters

ive not got around to really pushing my storm totem build, but its pretty okay feeling

[acoustic thicket]

[acoustic thicket]

Would the avalance thingy do enough cold dot for it to be a build ?

I mean

Maelstrom

I don't remember, the aura of cold damage

[copper fable]

yeah maelstrom builds are popular on bear

cold dot werebear is really good

[acoustic thicket]

how do you become a werebear ?

[copper fable]

druid thing

[acoustic thicket]

ohh I was looking at summon bear

[copper fable]

😂

[knotty juniper]

Is it just me being blind or does Rahyeh sometimes just charge in a completely different direction than the indicator shows? When he does the black flames on the ground?

[brittle atlas]

he always charged to where you were when he starts the ability afaik

but chill/haste/frenzy

could mess with it

same with enrage

anything that changes attack/cast speed can mess with their abilities

[fierce kraken]

yes. I used tunk labs and calced with 1k hp. Added 10 hp and 2 threshold for 13 ehp. Added 10 threshold and got 15 ehp. So the break even point is about 15% inc hp [(15/13)-1]. Also worth noting threshold is better when you factor in recovery over time.

[dense remnant]

so basically if you have optimal t5's, then health is better?

(as you can get over 15% just on gear without much dificulty)

and if your class/mastery has % health, then it's just always better?

[fierce kraken]

yes, im not sure about how to calculate for death seal, that would be a special case.

[dense remnant]

at t6/t7 is it still 15%?

[fierce kraken]

the 15% is assuming 1hp has the same opportunity cost as 1 endur threshold which is true for t5.

[brittle atlas]

even with minimum T5 rolls, an hp build should have ~50% increased

[dense remnant]

yeah i mean the easiest way to look at this is with chest and helm increased health affixes

[brittle atlas]

and that's without any increased in tree

[dense remnant]

chest at t5 gives you mroe from health than endurance pre-t6

helm at t5 gives 10-12% increased

the increase of endurance threshold at t6 relative to added health isn't enough to make endurance threshold at t6 better

t7 slightly comes out higher

[fierce kraken]

if i did it right ( and im not sure about my calcs) the break even point for t6/t7 endurance threshold is ~41-43% inc hp

[dense remnant]

but then theres hybrid to add on

t6 and t7 are different relative to added health

so it should be a different % for both

anyway, this was more to disprove the quote from a streamer that endurance threshold at t6/t7 is better than added health at t6/t7

unless your looking at a situation where you dont have hybrid on the gear it should be on, you dont have t5 rolls etc...

but you also have a t7 endurance threshold

lol

[brittle atlas]

and with T7 increased everywhere you can get up to 104% increased

obviously good luck with that, but yeah

in death seal's case, you just get 65% less value from any hp because you're locked to 35% health

[fierce kraken]

i think if you are worried about DoT threshold is really good. If you are in the state where you deciding between t7 hp and t7 threshold, you dont really have problems.

[brittle atlas]

so you want as much hp as possible but also enough ET to have 35% of your hp as ET

[dense remnant]

yeah if you had a robot playing the game, then going for the best ehp for dots is the best thing to do

but as long as we arent robots, i dont think it ever makes sense to make a relevant loss to your ehp to hits, so dots do less

when cleanse is like, the easiest affix to get

[copper fable]

what dots are actually dangerous, most of the time sub like 400 I have not experienced any dot yet that is dangerous, is this like some 500+ type situation

[fierce kraken]

Yulra scares me and made me more aware of DoTs

[brittle atlas]

there are also not very many dots in the game that are going to kill you faster than you can react if you've got defenses handled

[dense remnant]

yup

[brittle atlas]

like julra pool might 2-3 tick you, but it's relatively well telegraphed imo

[dense root]

julra's dot is pretty easy to avoid yeah

[brittle atlas]

for a long time I was doing her with like 40% void res

[dense root]

like you even have control over where it goes

[fierce kraken]

I just suck at the fight/ i do zdps.

[rugged lichen]

sup boys, is it only me or the highest weapon bases are around lvl 60 and after that there's nothing more? leaving me with the same weapons for 20 levels (lvl 80 now) pretty much

I don't lack damage but still, feels bad

[brittle atlas]

that is a suboptimal combo 😛

[dense root]

why does your dps matter for avoiding the void pool

you should only let julra spawn a single one

[dense remnant]

@rugged lichen its just you

[brittle atlas]

does she not spawn one for every big explosion basically?

[dense root]

if you switch eras twice no

she spawns one when she chases you

if you go back to the era she's in she doesn't switch eras

[brittle atlas]

she spawns one if you don't switch at all in my experience as well

[rugged lichen]

lemme check for the 1handers

[dense root]

hm weird

[dense remnant]

75 sword, 80 axe, 78 mace, 71 dagger, 75 scepter, 77 wand

[fierce kraken]

doing zps means there is a long opportunity to make mistakes

[brittle atlas]

it doesn't seem directly tied to chasing you at least, cause for a while I was just eating explosion w/ lethal mirage and cleansing the doom stacks from that

but would sometimes still die to the puddle due to being briefly animation locked in it

[dense root]

interesting

i definitely know that when i swap eras to dodge explosion and swap back i don't get hit with the pool

[rugged lichen]

ummm yeah pretty much dawn blade is the last one but it's not much of an improvement compared to a longsword from lvl 50...

[brittle atlas]

for what build?

[dense remnant]

its a big as increase

[brittle atlas]

yeah, dawn blade attacks quite a bit faster

[copper fable]

base damage is also really important, it looks small but going from 40 to 50 is pretty important

[dense remnant]

its going from 50 down to 48

[brittle atlas]

it's 50 -> 48 in longsword -> dawnblades case

[dense remnant]

you lose 2 added for 0.12 more attack rate

which is greater than the difference between the faster two handed swords and longsword

i would say its not very obvious that dawn blade is better

[brittle atlas]

also katana exists if your build has a lot of external flat sources

[dense remnant]

but also the point was stuff not being above 60 which isnt true :p

[copper fable]

I also think the devs have commented saying that weapons after a certain point are not supposed to be strict upgrades but rather some builds want some swords more then others etc

[brittle atlas]

this is definitely the case

[dense remnant]

yeah the last 3 generally seem to be build specific

[rugged lichen]

aight I guess I have to start using that rune for uniques, but pure phys has no unique swords, gonna check other bases

[jade badger]

Where´s the blessings menu please? I just returned to the game and can´t find which blessings I have

[dense remnant]

uniques arent always upgrades over rares

[brittle atlas]

inventory/equipment has a tab at the top

[jade badger]

Thanks!

[dense remnant]

and for a pure phys one handed sword, it defintiely isnt

[rugged lichen]

I haven't found an upgrade for like 15 levels

[brittle atlas]

yeah, it's quite likely you'd be looking for an exalted sword w/ a sealed suffix or something if your build wants to use swords

[dense remnant]

what's your current weapon?

[rugged lichen]

actually, probably even more but I did get one upgrade when exalted crystal sword dropped with 8% crit

a rare doom star mainhand and exalted crystal sword

[dense remnant]

i mean affixes

[rugged lichen]

the usual, flat phys + %phys

[dense remnant]

15 levels without an upgrade in affixes means you either have 2 of the best, or the best, affixes for you build, at t5, with near max rolls

[rugged lichen]

except for 8% crit on crystal instead of flat

[dense remnant]

and in that situation like, yeah, now get the suffixes

[rugged lichen]

i mean it's ultra easy to get t5s

[brittle atlas]

% increased on weapons is rarely right if you're hit based tbh

[dense remnant]

also that yeah

[rugged lichen]

what's better?

[brittle atlas]

flat + flat crit or flat + crit multi or flat + attack speed depending

[dense remnant]

also when you have the 2 prefixes, now you get the suffixes

[rugged lichen]

100% phys or exalted crit from what i've seen

[dense remnant]

weapons are prefix heavy, but theres always improvement to be made

[rugged lichen]

suffixes are whatever

[dense remnant]

lol

[brittle atlas]

armor shred, chill, slow, dodge% on 1H swords

[rugged lichen]

easy to get, not that important

[brittle atlas]

all great

[copper fable]

get that juicy chill yummy

[dense remnant]

now if you think you havent had an upgrade for 15 levels, but you arent looking at suffixes at all

then yes, you probably havent

because you've dropped your weapon from a t20+, to a t10

[rugged lichen]

you misunderstood

ofc I have shred/frailty/etc.

[dense remnant]

is your weapon t20?

(or higher)

[rugged lichen]

I guess close to t20 (if that means all 4 t5)

[dense remnant]

then you have upgrades still availible ^^

[copper fable]

Well I mean to be fair, you generally dont get upgrades THAT often if you have a decent set of swords, you are basically at that point hunting for exalted which is you know

[dense remnant]

just gotta grind for it

[copper fable]

just farm away hehe

[rugged lichen]

but there's not much difference between a t18 and t20 if those 2 are 1 in frailty and shred for example

and it's been like that since lvl 50-60

quite early

[dense remnant]

sure, theres not much difference between a lvl 90 and lvl 100 character either

lvl 50-60?

didnt you say one was a crystal sword

[rugged lichen]

longsword is 50

had one for years

[dense remnant]

then get it on a dawn blade?

it has more attack speed (well rate, but same thing basically)

[copper fable]

its pretty easy to basically "finish" a character well before level 100 with just rare items

its all about hunting for exalted/legendary which is the meat of the grind basically

[rugged lichen]

lvl 80 had exactly one exalted which is this crystal sword with 8% crit

[dense remnant]

yeah, like if you're aim is just 'this is basically good enough' then you'll finish the grind early on

thats like, a good thing

[rugged lichen]

yes, in 30 levels, 1 upgrade

[dense remnant]

thats my point though

what you have is basically good enough

but you can also just play and grind for better

[rugged lichen]

it is, I dont lack dps

[dense remnant]

lvl 50-80 is like, not a huge amount of game time

[rugged lichen]

feels like eternity

doing timelines in order

[copper fable]

I mean generally you hit empowered by level 80 something

[dense remnant]

yeah

[copper fable]

most of what is before that is basically tutorial

[rugged lichen]

have the same gear pretty much since the start, now on lvl 80 timeline

[dense remnant]

your lvl 80 on the 80 timeline?

[rugged lichen]

that's a lot of echoes done

[rugged lichen]

that's not how it's supposed to be played?

should I just skip?

[pseudo dust]

So you've done 58-62-66-70-75 and are now on 80?

[dense remnant]

yes

stop killing stuff

go zoom

[rugged lichen]

yes, done all so far

[dense remnant]

if your dps is high enough that stuff dies without problem, you should stop killing stuff

then start again when it starts becoming hard again

[rugged lichen]

well I'm now skipping the 3rd timeline in the 75 (lagon one) because it's kinda pointless

[dense remnant]

also you shouldnt do all the timlines

58-66-75-80 (or 85 whatever it is)-3x90's

then empowered

[rugged lichen]

welp

[dense remnant]

like the main reason you havent found an upgrade is that you have your prefixes at t5 each, and you're doing content that rarely drops exalteds

You've only had the dawn blade droppable in the lvl 75 and lvl 80 timelines

so relative to your mono farming, a lot of that has been without the best weapon dropping for you

and you've also been playing in a very unefficient way

[rugged lichen]

been doing what the game throws at me, progressivelly

[dense remnant]

so just run to the end of echo's, finish them, onto the next, repeat until empowereds unlock

[rugged lichen]

will skip to 85 then

[dense remnant]

when i really push, i can get to empowereds in a day on a fresh ssf character

and im not the fastest at all

just view everything pre-empowereds as meaningless basically

[rugged lichen]

maybe I should make undisputed axe, seems like it should be better than the rare mace with flat phys and %phys

can you get legendary potential by creation with runes?

[pseudo dust]

Yeah but getting undisputed, much less one with lp, is unlikely

[dense remnant]

get to the actual end game first

then worry about getting a legendary undisputed :p

[pseudo dust]

I always want to use a doom star, but I already have a billion katanas

[rugged lichen]

oh right, it's just axes and the base isn't relevant with the rune

[terse aspen]

What does it mean exactly ? Only in empowered timelines ? Only "Unique or Set amulet" echoes or do "Unique" echoes can drop it too ?

[fierce kraken]

It is just telling where you can find that type of unique node

[brittle atlas]

if you want to target it farm it, you can run Empowered Age of Winter (which spawns unique/set amulet echoes)

[terse aspen]

And on unempowered one ?

[brittle atlas]

they also spawn in normal, but the item might be too high level for normal?

which item is it?

[terse aspen]

Devotion amulet

[brittle atlas]

oh, devotion is super common, I probably wouldn't bother to target farm it

[terse aspen]

Never got one :c

[brittle atlas]

imo look for something less common to target and you'll probably end up with multiple devotion along the way

[pseudo dust]

What would you try to jam into an lp1 undisputed? I have an axe with t7 bleed and literal garbage other mods, and a more well rounded attack speed/phys axe as candidates

[terse aspen]

Well i'm farming age of winter because I need Devotion and ring set "The invoker's static touch"

[brittle atlas]

flat phys for hit based, bleed chance for bleed

[pseudo dust]

Probably go with the well-rounded option then, thanks

[rugged lichen]

also got a LP siphon of anguish which is a pretty pog ring for me, gonna cram something in there soon

[brittle atlas]

yeah, both devotion and invoker's ring could drop in normal, but almost certainly best to farm in empowered anyways

[terse aspen]

Didn't unlocked empowered so

:c

[brittle atlas]

the spawn rate of unique/set nodes is higher with higher corruption

then get to it

empowered better for farming in basically every way

[terse aspen]

How do I unlock empowered timelines ?

[rugged lichen]

damn no wonder I was getting bored, gotta skip to 100s asap

[brittle atlas]

complete the three level 90 timelines

[rugged lichen]

loving the +skills in LE tho, infinitely better than +skills in any other arpg

[brittle atlas]

age of winter, spirits of fire, the last ruin

once you get it down, you can pretty easily get new characters from 50 to 80-ish with empowered unlocked in about 6 hours

[terse aspen]

Wdym ?

[brittle atlas]

you can level a character from level 50 to level 80 and complete the required timelines to unlock empowered monolith in about 6 hours

[terse aspen]

Oh

[brittle atlas]

once you know what you're doing and are focused on it

[rugged lichen]

Just dont be an ape like myself that did every quest

Ayo what do i do with all these arena keys, any way to upgrade them to memory ones?

I got like 50+

And i avoid arena key nodes like a plague

[brittle atlas]

nope, either use em or vendor em

they vendor for a good bit

I have a stash tab for keys and I just vendor them all when it fills up

[rugged lichen]

Damn, thats something to deal with eventually

[stone granite]

You are not avoiding arena key nodes if you have over 50 keys

I have zero

[brittle atlas]

I definitely wouldn't avoid nodes based on reward type personally

[stone granite]

I see arena nodes as dead ends

[brittle atlas]

anything that isn't exalted or unique/set is basically worthless anyways

[stone granite]

There are runes and glyphs I want

gold I always need

[brittle atlas]

eh, an arena node could be the safest node mod-wise or the shortest path to go out for more stability/corruption

[frigid orbit]

At some points you will get many arena keys even without nodes. And you will be happy to do an easy arena reward node in high corruption monoliths at some point. 😄

[stone granite]

I don't think you can get arena keys outside the nodes

[frigid orbit]

They are random world drops