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robust talon
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oh it is the "Z"

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sorry for ping,
so that means i can also use rune of ascendance and get it?

brittle atlas
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Yes

acoustic thicket
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are blessing unlocks account wide?

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or will i have to farm them in every character?

dense root
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they're by character

acoustic thicket
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bbruh

vapid aspen
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Would be pretty annoying otherwise lol

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Imagine needing to run a timeline to swap to cold shred from phys shred and back every time you change characters

knotty juniper
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Is Surge Spellblade still a thing? I haven't played in a good while and things seem to have changed a lot (rip free lightning blast chains)

vapid aspen
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I'd lose my mind

knotty juniper
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very nice

vapid aspen
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Stronger now than before

knotty juniper
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so my one build isn't bricked

vapid aspen
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legendary humming bee + the movespeed scaling

knotty juniper
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I do not know what the first part means

vapid aspen
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humming bee unique sword

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its low level so trash stats, but was able to compete with endgame gear

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now you can give it stats with legendary

knotty juniper
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Guess I'll still need to respec a whole lot

vapid aspen
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Ah wait you were using LB?

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never ran cast surge build

knotty juniper
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Just triggering it with surge

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and static

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i did the whole "get a bunch of chains and use convergence"

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thing

vapid aspen
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Ah

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maybe still works, idk

knotty juniper
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not really

vapid aspen
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all I know is that for sure hit surge is very good

knotty juniper
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they made it so arcing power doesn't work with triggered lightning blasts

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so that's -4 chains

tight harbor
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Hello guys! is there a way to toggle item info in popup, rather than holding CTRL and/or ALT+CTRL ?

knotty juniper
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Guess I'll have to figure out how to surge all over again

robust talon
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to drop julra's uniques, the higher is the tier of her dungeon, the higher will be the drop chance (for her specific uniques)?
or does not matter at all?

swift cairn
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Some of her uniques can only drop on certain tiers

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like the relic can only drop on tier4

astral seal
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They're all tier locked, every tier has an additional unique added to the loot pool, T1 Ring T2 Helment/Ring T3 Helmet/Ring/Gloves T4 Helmet/Ring/Gloves/Relic

hasty tartan
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How hard is it to make your own build?

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Like, will I fail the first few attempts at my own build?

brittle atlas
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depends on the build

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somethings are a lot more obvious than others

hasty tartan
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Say I want to experiment with a wolf summoner

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Is it worth taking resistance passives in general?

brittle atlas
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depends on how much resist it is and what else is stapled to it

copper fable
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the best way is to look at wolf builds and look at the reasons given why they have taken X passive or other skill and build your knowledge from there

brittle atlas
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some are solid, some are not

copper fable
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Tweak a wolf build until you make it your own twist then you can maybe make one from the ground up

hasty tartan
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So if it's just 6% res per point and nothing else useful - don't take?

brittle atlas
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the primalist attunement/cold/lightning res passive for example I would only take if you benefit from the attunement too

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or as "travel" to progress further up the tree if there's something else beneficial to get

hasty tartan
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Thanks. I'll probably not take it then

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I see most wolf builds convert to squirrels - are there any that don't?

copper fable
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Thats because by design the squirrels are factually always better in a pure minion build

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they do 45% less damage, but you get twice as many, meaning there is actually a slight damage gain simply by going squirrels.

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But that means you can most likely play almost any squirrel build as wolves and its fine.

hasty tartan
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Hmmm.... are scorpion builds a thing either?

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Trying to figure out what kind of beastmaster pet specs are viable

copper fable
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Are you trying to have the minions do all the work, or mostly you with minion on the side or a balance?

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cause it changes which pets are good

hasty tartan
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Mainly minions

copper fable
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You should try and look into wolves, scorpion and raptor.

hasty tartan
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Thanks.

copper fable
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Scorpion does not seem to be that popular these days, have not seen a build for them in a long time. but they did used to be played, and I dont think its been nerfed, other options just must be better

thorny glen
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Glacier is still a good thing? I never used mage and want to

hasty tartan
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I think it's good but mana intensive from my limited experience

thorny glen
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I haven't seen any guide of that skill in the epoch tools, and idk if previous patch guides are good to take as reference or use 🤔

copper fable
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if the class didnt change, it should be mostly fine

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there is a glacier build from 0.8.3 iirc, that would should still work fine

thorny glen
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Nice, time to go let it go on these frickers then, ty :D

bronze trellis
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is there a way to guarantee I get the +1 hammer throw if I shattered this?
been using it forever since I have never been able to find another one with that affix, and I'm afraid to shatter it since it might not give me the shard for it back

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unless I'm misunderstanding what affix shards you get back when you shatter

copper fable
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shatter is not 100%, you might not get it

bronze trellis
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😔

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the hunt for another +1 hammer throw continues

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speaking of, I've somehow haven't found another one at all

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I'm cursed 😭

copper fable
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some affixes are more rare then others, so you wanna filter for them and use removals on them

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removal costs FP, but if it hits the affix, you get shards equal to the level at 100% chance

bronze trellis
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that's a very good tip actually

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if I knew that when I first had it I would've saved some potential for a removal

stone granite
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always check the vendor too, sometimes they sell good stuff worth shattering

sterile maple
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Guys what is the Best starter for new player ? With smooth gameplay ?

brittle atlas
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devouring orb void knight probably

stone granite
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Play literally anything

brittle atlas
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low gear dependence, smooth playstyle, good enough for most low-mid tier content

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but also that

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there's...definitely stuff I wouldn't recommend personally, but ultimately it doesn't really matter what you play, everything is good enough to make it through the campaign and into level 100 content

hasty tartan
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Is flat phys as strong as I think it is for wolves?

brittle atlas
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yeah, flat damage in general is really good for almost everything

hasty tartan
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Tunklab says they do 18 base phys, so 10 would add over 50% damage, right?

brittle atlas
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yep

hasty tartan
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Thanks, just wanted to make sure. Axe and Claw in beastmaster seems really strong then.

urban sable
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whats it take to move a skill spec from one slot to another

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for example i want to move a necro skill to slot one

brittle atlas
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why?

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like just moving them around? not changing them entirely?

urban sable
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does the slot matter?

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like do you get more points in the first slot as opposed to the one you get at lvl 8

brittle atlas
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no

acoustic thicket
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Any idea if it’s planned to make the player modifiers stacks also show in the mono web as the enemy modifiers do? More importantly the rarity %?

sterile maple
brittle atlas
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or you mean separate out each modifiers associated rarity with it?

acoustic thicket
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Yes, I’m assuming on the right side shows you how much rarity will be added and in the left bottom shows you how much % you’ve accumulated. But it doesn’t show x5..x2.. etc

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Yes that’s what I mean

brittle atlas
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so like instead of just your current total, have each modifier also list how much rarity it contributes?

acoustic thicket
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Yes, so then that it shows you after how many monos a certain player mod (rarity%) will be taken away

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So as you say instead of total rarity: 150% it would show 25%(2x), 18%(3x) so on, so that you can make sure you enter an orobys fight with highest rarity % possible.

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So then with the example above, you’ll be able to determine that in 2 mono maps, 25% of your rarity will fall off, and 18% will fall off in 3 maps.

acoustic thicket
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Do these 2 options not "respect" each other and act alone while filtering for items ?

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I don't understand why its hiding this relic panik

brittle atlas
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it has a T4 mod

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your filter is looking for items with mods T3 or lower and total 8 or lower

acoustic thicket
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yeah its a "hide these items" filter

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so it shouldn't be affect this relic

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but it is

brittle atlas
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do you have any rules higher up that would show it?

acoustic thicket
brittle atlas
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hmm idk

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I generally use filters in the opposite direction

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hide everything and show what I want

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vs hiding what I don't want

acoustic thicket
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yeah if I change the direction of these two it makes the hide rule useless for some reason, not mattering what I do to it, the relic still shows up

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Maybe its hiding it because there are tier 3 or less mods in it ? thonk

crude flame
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Ew Pam

acoustic thicket
acoustic thicket
crude flame
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Cant bully you here; my powers have waned

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Well Cam was discussing LE and I was tempted to play after 8 months

acoustic thicket
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This is what I mean (lol) wouldn’t it be a nice idea? Or does everyone just manually remember? Like yesterday I was at like 130% rarity, thought to do one more map to get abit more (25% or something) before hitting the orobys node, but the rarity was decreased. so I’m guessing one of the rarity mods dropped.

brittle atlas
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yeah

analog stump
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how do we farm for items in 8.4?
spam dungeon for purples? do i try to full clear each level before jura?
and spam the highest corruption i can do on monoliths for uniques?

i'm aware i can do specific timelines for specific unique slots nodes, just trying to figure out how to maximize my chances to look for LP uniques

dense root
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lp uniques you get in monoliths

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make sure you’re doing empowered because lp chances go up with area level and all empowered monos are level 100

brittle atlas
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look for good dungeon modifiers mostly

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imo speed clear first floor and full clear second floor if you want exalted

dense root
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dungeon is really good for exalts yeah

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one of the two doors before floor two is always exalted items as far as i can tell

analog stump
brittle atlas
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Due higher rarity mods at higher corruption

analog stump
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👍🏻 thanks!

acoustic thicket
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Btw arbours, I just noticed in your screenshot, 1000 corruption holy sheet man 🔥

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Was that with lich?

inland vortex
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What does the attack speed related part means?

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that i wont be getting bonuses for attack speed but they will be related to phys cold light?

hearty jasper
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Hi! Are the drop chances for a low lvl unique (lvl 30-40) the same in empowered monos as in normal monos? Or is it better or even worse? Trying to figure out, if I should farm empowered to get high LP on it or if normal is better for more drops maybe?

wheat prawn
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Does anyone know why Healing totems from Ancestral Renewal spawned through totems dont heal me? When i cast Eterra's Blessing on myself and a healing totem spawns it heals me just fine, but when i heal a totem and that spawns a healing totem it does nothing.

exotic jetty
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Quick question, can i respec in these points aswell as the points i spec into skills?

frosty mirage
balmy current
sinful belfry
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hello...
why i cant craft this affix into my one hand dagger??

snow spruce
sinful belfry
snow spruce
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Open your inventory, there's a button (I can't screenshot it right now, otherwise I would) Its below your equipped gear, but above the inventory itself

sinful belfry
acoustic thicket
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Right side right above your inventory

sinful belfry
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ah yeah

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its can...
thank you bro..

daring aurora
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is Smelters Wrath fun to play? i just got this and might level a new char/reroll this Forge Guard for it

solar juniper
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I tried dr3eads build for it, to me it was really fun

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Especially with a head like that it looks fun, idk if the sunforged set is preferred usually. If you like big burst and aoe its nice

marsh maple
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yeah

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its a fun build

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not a good build

minor latch
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Can anyone explain why I don't have a forum badge on my account after buying the game on Steam?

balmy current
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Either it's not updated or you just need to email support & ask them to fix it

copper fable
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Yeah I dont have one either

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but I wasnt sure if it was worth bothering them about it

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hehe

robust talon
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if i have 100%crit avoidance
why would i ever use this affix?
i dont understand the difference between this and crit avoid

woven pine
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question regarding tooltip damage and character page info values... when i switch my body armor to a better one (only dmg stag is flurry crit%) i loose a lot of damage (e.g. 110% increased phys). unequipping armor doesnt do a thing, equipping one with better stats lowers my values. Any logic behind this?

bronze trellis
robust talon
copper fable
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less damage from crit requires exalted iirc to be immune to crit damage but only requires 1 affix, where as crit avoidance needs a lot more.

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its just different ways to get to the same end goal

dense root
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i don’t it requires exalted i think it just needs a perfect roll

dense root
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i think the t5 range is like 80-100 or something

copper fable
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ah close enough

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get exalted so you dont have to roll ezpz

dense root
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realistically i assume you’re probably fine with only 90% less damage from crits or something

bronze trellis
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just tank the crits

dense root
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like you just want to avoid massive damage spikes

bronze trellis
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does this passive work well with orbiting hammer throws
like does the added flat damage persist for the entire hammer's duration, or just a single hit

robust talon
robust talon
bronze trellis
fiery sedge
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hi ,if i keep my current blessing (increased physical damage) and farm for the upgrade version does it have the chance or do i have to change with something else in order to have the upgraded blessing next time?

robust talon
fiery sedge
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ty for the info.didnt know that 5 choices need 200 corrution

robust talon
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@fiery sedge
i do also suggest u , if you are a pure physical build
to farm for the empowered mono timeline9
because it will grants as its blessing "physical shred chance"
wich is by far (all those shreds chance) an immense dps boost

same as (if new player, mid gear, bad gear)
the timeline7 for the blessing "all res20%" or "crit avoidance 70%"
really boost survivability

(these 2 should be the priority in every early-mid end game)

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and timeline10 for the 320 flat armor, which as physical char as i understood u are
gives a nice nice damage reduction (armor does that is an ultra boost of survivability, but i would prioritize the other 2 i wrote, before this one)

outer jay
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am I blind? for saving last refuge where tf do I go

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cause the bridge is just gone

rare fjord
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what kind of resistances does elemental resistance include exactly?

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only fire cold lightning?

solar juniper
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Fire ice Lightning

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Y

static glacier
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whats the level req of a low level unique item if you hit one t7 affixe?

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sitting at a dreamthorn and a t7 void damage sword - want to make sure i can wear it if it works 😉

pseudo dust
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T7 on an artors legacy didn't push it above 42, but t6 and T4 on a hellreach bumped it to 36, so I'd guess 28-34 for a dreamthorn with one t7?

static glacier
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thank you guess i can try savley at nearly lvl 40 so ... gl 😄

copper fable
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it depends on the mod

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my dreamthorn with t6 %void damage and shockchance is level 45 req

static glacier
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but you have 2 nodes

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anyway i have spare 0 pot one so i guess ill just try 😛 let you know if i hit ^^

copper fable
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is that what makes it increase? I couldnt tell in testing seemed random I wish it didnt increase at all so I could make mega twink gear 😏

pseudo dust
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I assumed it counted the total added tiers, but I have no idea how it actually works

static glacier
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the base sword of that t7 is a lvl 10 base 😄

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RNG smiles at you 🙂

solid void
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hello, I am a new player who is trying to play EarthQuake Werebear by Boardman21 guide, but the Passive Screen Shots are different from Build Planner, which one should I follow, please?

icy bronze
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Im about to finish chapter 9 with my first character, a marksman. How should i progress further? Just start farming monoliths?

dusky kite
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Monos and the dungeon are the way to go from there

brittle atlas
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yep, just start trying to progress through monos to empowered asap

dusky kite
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Arena is more niche and isn't a priority

icy bronze
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Got it. End game, are most builds well crafted rares? Or largely uniques like d2? I absolutely love crafting in this game

bronze trellis
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from what I've seen, well crafted rares with uniques / set items that boost your build in a way rares can't, or provide unique interactions

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similar to Path of Exile's gearing

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but it goes even further with some advanced forms of crafting

icy bronze
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Fantastic. The crafting is a big reason im switching from poe

bronze trellis
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have fun!

dusky kite
icy bronze
brittle atlas
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no, there are uniques with higher level requirements

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the first monolith is only zone level 58

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and there are items, not just uniques, with requirements up into the 80s and even 90s in one case

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some uniques (mostly boss ones) are empowered (level 100) monolith only

bronze trellis
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I do like how gear keeps progressing up to such a high level

icy bronze
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Oh wow, ok. Will i hit a wall with my first char, or is it a pretty smooth transition to the higher tiers?

brittle atlas
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depends on the build/character, your knowledge/how fast you learn

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some people definitely hit walls at like

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chapter 9

dusky kite
brittle atlas
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and moving into empowered

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there's basically no reason to farm non-empowered tbh

dusky kite
brittle atlas
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a well built/planned character can just smoothly progress all the way into empowered

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even with pretty minimal gear

bronze trellis
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is it unusual to be 40 hours into a character and not even finished with all the monoliths under level 80

icy bronze
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I doubt mine is well built. I kinda decided i liked detonating arrow and just stuck with it the whole way. Still i can respec, like you said

brittle atlas
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for me definitely, but idk what "normal" is in that regard

bronze trellis
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this is my first ever time playing LE omegalul

brittle atlas
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if I'm focused on a character I'll have it to 100 in ~30 hours

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sometimes faster if it's a fast build

hasty tartan
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How would you guys level a spellblade before Flame Reave is available?

bronze trellis
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it surprised me how fun the 40 hours were
didn't feel like I was being super slow

brittle atlas
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shatter strike or glacier

bronze trellis
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and I still have literally every other character to try out

acoustic thicket
hasty tartan
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Shatter strike isn't available much earlier - glacier always ran me out of mana, any tips on that?

brittle atlas
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mostly just don't cast it often, it should basically 1 shot everything

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with the gambler's amulet you get from the early quest

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if you do run low on mana, mana strike back up

bronze trellis
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I wonder if the uniques are balanced around potentially have 1-2 extra modifiers

hasty tartan
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Wait, should I be using that amulet?

brittle atlas
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it's quite good for some leveling strategies

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since it gives you a guaranteed crit

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you can use that crit on cooldown basically with a big hit like glacier

dense root
acoustic thicket
dense root
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the chance to have various amounts of lp is balanced around how good the unique is

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better uniques get less lp

bronze trellis
bronze trellis
acoustic thicket
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Well it's by level req

dense root
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no it's not

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there's a hidden number that determines it

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the hidden number is just the same as the level for many uniques

brittle atlas
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ye, uniques have an "effective level" for LP that modifies how rare LP is on the item

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you can see it here

acoustic thicket
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Ah missed that

bronze trellis
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very good to know

solid wagon
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What is steam even doing. why is it patching 12gb after downloading 30mb?

brittle atlas
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because of how unity games store files it has to verify the entire file

acoustic thicket
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^

solid wagon
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Yikes. Thanks.

brittle atlas
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ye

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steam doesn't like games that keep lots of things in big single files

dusky kite
icy bronze
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Thats a pretty elegant way to do that and it gives them a lever to adjust as things get weaker/stronger with the meta

bronze trellis
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agreed

icy bronze
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The devs are making some really good decisions from what i have seen. Im excited to be getting into the game at this early stage

brittle atlas
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I've been following the game for a long time now and it just constantly gets better

icy bronze
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Is there a way to support the game beyond buying it? Probably too late to be an early adopter or anything of that nature

dusky kite
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Yeah the game has its downsides ofc, terrible optimization for instance, but the core gameplay is solid and is improving at a good pace.

brittle atlas
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I think you can buy higher tier supporter packs on the website or upgrade by contacting support

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there's no MTX or anything though

bronze trellis
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and us early access gamers get free MTX money 😎

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tree fiddy mtx points

icy bronze
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Ahh ok i see em now

snow tusk
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can Logi's Hunger drop anywhere?

pseudo dust
snow tusk
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arg, so I guess thats at the end of a chain of monoliths, right?

brittle atlas
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it's the level 90 monolith, but logi's hunger is the empowered only drop for that boss

pseudo dust
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It's not empowered only anymore, that's the idol

brittle atlas
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oh? I thought the idol was just the non-empowered rare drop

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kinda sad that the idol is the empowered one lol

snow tusk
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I've never gotten over level 69 so I guess I'll see it in a year or two haha

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thanks!

rare fjord
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what is the benefit of spell werebear? I'm really hard to find it

acoustic thicket
brittle atlas
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werebear gets 1 flat damage per strength via passives and can trigger entangling roots and maelstrom easily

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and also gets to sustain rage easily via vines

acoustic thicket
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^

snow tusk
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for a Rune of Ascendance, is there a base I should be on the lookout for to ascend?

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I found 2 of them and I don't want them to rot in my stash

dense root
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just whatever you want to use them on really

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worth noting that it only cares about the type of item (1h sword, 2h spear, amulet, etc.) and doesn't respect the specific base type (not every serpent bow becomes an acidfletch)

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i've been using mine on boots recently because i want to get a bunch of legendary boots with movespeed on them

snow tusk
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oh so any base 1h sword can be any unique 1h sword

dense root
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it has to be one in the regular drop pool

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so no boss uniques

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but for the most part yeah

snow tusk
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ok ok, ty

acoustic thicket
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it also respects rarity

hasty tartan
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Do you guys think we'll see Aphophis or Rahyeh as a boss in a later update?

solar juniper
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I hope there ll be a "true form orobyss" or smth like that

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Not just shades

hasty tartan
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Yea, but he'd probably be an uber boss or something, right?

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Not in acts

bronze trellis
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I used to think the emperor was gonna be the end of the act bosses, but honestly he could very well be a much later boss
with Aphophis maybe being act 10
and Rahyeh being the acts closer

solar juniper
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Ld be fun

bronze trellis
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True Orobyss seems like it'd be a level 100 boss ngl

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or possibly even higher

icy bronze
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if chapter 9 is kickin my ass, should i just go do monliths for a while

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or asked another way, is there an actual need to finish the campaign?

dense root
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you get +1 to all attributes for completing the last quest in chapter 9

shut hinge
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hello all!

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recently got a copy of last epoch, been enjoying the game so much

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finally got Masaja down, I was surprised by the spike in difficulty 😅

ripe tiger
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Hi im new, does pyre golem's fire aura stack?

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for the passive that lets u use 2 golems

solid wagon
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Suddenly my game stops responding whenever I press START when trying to enter an echo. Anyone had similar issues?

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Basically all my echos are bricked, lol

sterile sundial
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what is better for maul EQ damage?

acoustic thicket
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depends on how much fire damage and shred you already have

bronze trellis
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probably the shred

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I'm guessing you're already stacking a bunch of increased damage

ripe tiger
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are skeleton warriors just supposed to feel bad at lower levels?

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or am i doing something horribly wrong

hallow nacelle
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i see intelligence "improves skills that rely on magic". does that actually mean anything or is it flavor text?

brittle atlas
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each skill has attribute scaling

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mage and acolyte generally have the most intelligence scaling

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the default is 4% increased damage per point of attribute, but some skills have something different

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if you hold alt over a skill's icon you can see its attribute scaling

hallow nacelle
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thank you!

valid badger
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Are higher level items weighed towards higher tier mods or should I avoid filtering out level 30-40 items even into lategame?

snow spruce
# valid badger Are higher level items weighed towards higher tier mods or should I avoid filter...

You shouldn't really be filtering out all items of a certain level at all, as they can still roll with valuable affixes, and with high tiers of them as well. So, to answer your question, no don't do that, You should structure your filter to Show what you want to show, and have a Hide All rule at the bottom, so that anything that isn't what you'd like to see is filtered out. Hopefully that makes sense.

vast plaza
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Hey, when trying to maximize stability/hr to farm a monolith boss for one of their uniques, what should my strategy outside of the echoes themselves be? Obviously when I'm in, I can be skipping as many non-objective mobs as is safe.

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so far I've been avoiding mods that'd slow my clear down and exploring as far from the monolith as possible, but should I be resetting the web for corruption?

valid badger
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Well, someone else can probably give you more certain advice, but it seems like the answer to grabbing more corruption depends on (1) how long you expect this to take and (2) can you handle any more corruption without dying

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Target farming seems like it'd take a while, so I'd just hit the corruption as high as I could handle

vast plaza
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well, It's a 50% drop chance unique I'm looking for, and I'm finding that I'm at the limits of my build's capabilities without it, so guess I'll keep on keeping on. Hopefully I'll get the drop soon enough. I've lost 2 rolls for it so far

valid badger
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Makes sense, good luck!

trim estuary
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Is it known how level requirement is calculated when make a legendary item?

stoic steeple
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can low bases drop later in game?

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or does the game automatically filter out bases by level to give you the best?

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like, can you get a lvl 8 base from a lvl 60 area?

foggy parrot
stoic steeple
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alright, ill take the time to learn the bases then 😐

eternal owl
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does marked for death drop my resists? I just got owned like 6x by deadly enemies, marked for death and something was dropping all my resists

timber agate
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marked for death inflicts -25% to all resistance, yeah

eternal owl
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its destroying me xD

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getting rekt

static glacier
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you take 25% more damage that alone wont "destroy" you

foggy parrot
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will a Vessel of Memory make me go back to the beginning of the echo web or will I be able to hop around wherever?

foggy parrot
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you can hold down ALT on echos to see a more in-depth explanation of what echo modifiers do (except for the obvious self-explanatory ones)

frosty mirage
foggy parrot
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ahh, okay, that makes sense. thanks

dry narwhal
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yeah chaos or orobyss resets the web iirc

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i think and not or actually

foggy parrot
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orobyss resets it completely

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I don't remember what chaos does

dry narwhal
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or does chaos only do reward rerolls

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i havent used one lol

foggy parrot
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yeah I think Chaos rerolls all non-completed echos?

dry narwhal
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oh you know that sounds right too

valid badger
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Do enemies have any resists? I'm wondering if I should invest in penetration stats

foggy parrot
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yes

dry narwhal
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penetration of your damage type is always more damage

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so yes

copper fable
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not at a baseline no, only through certain modifiers, they at a baseline have 0. But shred/pen is always a good damage modifier basically.

dry narwhal
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resists can go negative so

valid badger
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Gotcha, thanks guys

sly brook
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when is endurance calculated especially for one shots? for example my endurance threshold = 90hp and let's say my max hp is 100. my endurance is 60%

an enemy hits me for 100, will i get damage reduction from endurance then?

dry narwhal
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i don't think endurance prevents one shots

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i think its damage reduction when you're below the threshold

foggy parrot
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that's a good question, I'm not sure. it'd be interesting if damage is calculated sequentially like that

dry narwhal
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if it prevents one shots, then its actually busted

copper fable
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it does prevent one shots yes

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As do the passives that reduce damage on low life

foggy parrot
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it wouldn't always prevent one-shots per se, since a one-shot is a one-shot

dry narwhal
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then it really is busted

copper fable
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Well lets just say damage goes to endurance line and immediately starts getting reduced even if its in a singular hit

foggy parrot
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like you're never going to survive the emperor of corpses dragon's one-shot attack

dry narwhal
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so it "can" prevent them but it won't always

copper fable
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Basically the DR is never wasted

dry narwhal
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if you don't have enough hp, which is a problem to begin with lol

copper fable
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if you have 3k hp, and take a 3.2k hit from a single blow, if you have 60% endurance you live

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because the damage that hits your endurance threshold is gonna get reduced even though its all from a singular source that happened before you were below the threshold

dry narwhal
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thats really good

copper fable
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Basically endurance is just a really decent way to make hp more effective

dry narwhal
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and part of why ward is "worse"

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i won't say bad, but endurance kinda real good

copper fable
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Ward is honestly worse not really because of endurance but because of how you generate it. my ward character has way more EHP then my hp character against 1 shots

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but you dont actually get 1 shot that often in this game

dry narwhal
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yeah, i dont think ive ever been one shot in le

copper fable
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but leech characters heal insane amounts of damage that ward can never compete with

dry narwhal
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unless it was EoC when i was learning that fight

copper fable
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So its more so about recovery, ward has worse recovery but can get better ehp.

dry narwhal
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so provided a constant generation somehow, ward will win

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but its a harder fight to get there

foggy parrot
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even with the crazy uniques and idols that generate ward?

dry narwhal
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those don't generate ward that fast by themselves

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unless you've optimized a ton of hp on gear

foggy parrot
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kinda figured they would since there's one unique that generates like 30% of max life per second or something like that

dry narwhal
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it's not that high

foggy parrot
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then another unique where potions restore ward

dry narwhal
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but it is based on a percent of missing hp

foggy parrot
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and has like 90% chance to find potions

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but I see your point, it'd take a specific item build to generate it quickly

dry narwhal
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you don't wanna rely on potions that much

copper fable
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so my low life ward character has 3.2k health, which means I get 35% of my missing hp per second as ward if im at 1 hp this translates to roughly 1120 ward per second

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where as leech does the percentage of the damage dealt over 3 seconds

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you just heal insane amounts that ward can never compete with

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Ward basically will never be able to compare to leech

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Ward is only useful for characters who otherwise cant leech, or have other benefits from it.

dry narwhal
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my first char was swipe werebear and even with crap gear could tank the whole game lol

robust talon
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true, leech swipe can facetank orobyss insane high corrupt

robust talon
dry narwhal
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lol ye

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well when i was doing swipe werebear orobyss either wasn't in the game yet or was newly introduced

robust talon
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the only sad thing about leech swipe\whatever melee
is the close range, i hate so much chasing monsters

dry narwhal
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that's what charge was for

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i do miss how fast charge was

robust talon
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heeeellll yeah

dry narwhal
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rampage is fun as heck

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but charge had benefits

robust talon
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to not talk about charge low life werebearth earthquake(firestaff)
charge = no more monsters, next please

dry narwhal
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yeah, that was real fun

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never got last steps while that build was at full glory

dry narwhal
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but even full life version was super strong

copper fable
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if you generate it on hit it is different imo

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and not what most people think about when you say "ward build" I should have clarified

wheat saddle
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yea well game progress

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im not picking on you

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i just want to understand if its true

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i just dont think that sentiment is true anymore

copper fable
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I mean thats just what everyone says, I think ward is better then people give it credit, but it really depends on how you get it

wheat saddle
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and idk why you said this

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"if you generate it on hit it is different imo"

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like who made that rule

acoustic thicket
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Ward gained on hit
Vs Ward based on life I'd say are different builds.

copper fable
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Because ward werebear for example cant use heart to create massive amounts of ward

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So it has to use low life ward stuff

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which is trash and bad

wheat saddle
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mine is actually ward based on life

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u realise thats sorc

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it is hitting yes, but also based on life

copper fable
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Yeah im just saying that not all ward builds are that, and not all ward builds can be built that way

wheat saddle
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bc without leech i wont keep 100% hp

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so

copper fable
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if you look at ward builds as a generic vs hp builds, they are worse

wheat saddle
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yea sure but i also dont know why youre using absolutes to determine things like that

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im aware of every ward build

timber agate
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and the context for the discussion before is the lowlife ward build using exsang etc are usually not that good

wheat saddle
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dunno, missing context

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like a lot of missing context

dry narwhal
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then can you back off lol

wheat saddle
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?

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back off what?

acoustic thicket
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Okay so LL ward vs other types of Ward builds are bad

copper fable
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like I think dragon heart is very special when it comes to ward gen because you dont actually have to lose the stuff that makes hp good

dry narwhal
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you're down his throat about saying one sentence

wheat saddle
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i think thats how you feel

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i dont feel that way

copper fable
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like vessal of strife is really good because you get to be a health build and still build potentially good amounts of ward

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like do you have capped endurance jabba?

wheat saddle
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what im saying is that its weird to determine whether something is good or not without thinking about extrenal factors

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no

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my build doesnt use endurance

timber agate
wheat saddle
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its good enough, i can tank t4 julra aoe bomb or anything from her, except the doom that follows after

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and i have 200 armor

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so yea

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this is sort of why i keep saying that youre missing context as to what other defensive layers follows the build

copper fable
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I mean so can my LL ward build, its mostly about how fast can you recover which is what I was saying is bad for LL builds

wheat saddle
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sure except im not ll ward ?

copper fable
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we were talking mostly about LL ward because thats what the majority of ward builds are gonna be unless they are sorc or spellblade....

acoustic thicket
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He was never talking about your shit He was talking about LL

wheat saddle
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i just basically picked on the thing you said re: ward

acoustic thicket
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You jumped into his convo about LL builds

copper fable
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Yes for 90% of all the game that statement is true

wheat saddle
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yea but that sounds pretty isolated to me

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i mean, its all good

copper fable
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like you can always point to a counter arguement, I mean im not actually speaking in absolutes there is always rules

wheat saddle
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the thing is idk if there is even rules

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i think people tunnel on something

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and not thinking about context

copper fable
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Nah I think if you try and go marksman ward

wheat saddle
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ok?

copper fable
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you are simply gonna have a bad time

wheat saddle
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why?

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can i ask what your hours on the game is like?

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just for context

copper fable
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I have 800 hours, am 250 arena, and like 250 corruption

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and I play a ward build

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l0l

wheat saddle
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ok.

copper fable
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its like trying to make necrotic or void marksmen, you are just spending extra resources to make something out of the box work

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it CAN work, its just not gonna be the best possible build

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Thats all the convo was about, is that ward is kinda bad for the majority of classes, for the classes with support for it, it has a lot more potential

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But thats an entirely other conversation 😛

wheat saddle
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id think that until i saw a low life bd

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and it looked really good actually

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dunno, marksman is bad with ward is not a matter of compatibility issue or w/e

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its just issues within marksman as a class

copper fable
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its sorta like LL bear, its a thing, it is a good option. But once you get to the nitty gritty being able to heal 10k a second vs 1k a second it just makes life much better

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BD is gonna be mostly the same. its hard to beat fully healing instantly

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When you do 1m poison damage to julra leech means you cant die, where as ward means you do die thats why most people share the sentiment that health just ends up being better in most cases

wheat saddle
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except u cant heal if u get one shot

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idk

acoustic thicket
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Its why spellblade getting a metric fuckload of ward and sustaining it is nuts vs a regular ward build.

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A regular LL ward build can't even tank half as well in most cases and can't regain it when it gets hit as fast

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It's a no contest between the non-LL and the LL versions.

copper fable
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Well you generally shouldnt get 1 shot depending on your layers, like I use bastion and have cracked out block effectiveness so I just stand next to julra and she literally does 1-2k with most attacks, but I could do the same if I had leech and a 3k health pool

acoustic thicket
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But if you get hit multiple times in quick succession then you pop when the other builds shrug it off

copper fable
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Ward just has an upper limit where as leech does not, which is the crux of the argument basically.

wheat saddle
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yeah i have nothing like bastion etc

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but i have a lot of % less damage taken

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15% from orian, 30% from prism wraps, 25% from aegis, and 48% from flameward

copper fable
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like trust me, im a fan of ward builds, but its just not in the cards for the majority of the classes which prolly why I mostly play sorc/acolyte lol

wheat saddle
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which i can activate altogether

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im not arguing about that poiont anymore fyi

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its ok we can move on 🙂

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just sharing my build and how i deal with it

radiant stratus
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Anyone have an issue with the game crashing to desktop and then steam thinking it's still running?

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:/ I can't play

radiant thunder
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same

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cant open

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it starts loading and crashes

stoic steeple
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this is literally the reason i 100% didnt want to buy it off steam

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also i wanted devs to get money

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steam means steam takes a huge cut

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this money goes directly to devs

rare fjord
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how does this work with umbral blade? because it says 'attacks', not 'hit', it only inflicts 5 stacks regardless of the number of blades?

brittle atlas
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it gives your third throw 500% bleed chance

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so each blade gets ~300% bleed chance

rare fjord
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wow....

static glacier
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and then you convert all those extra bleed stacks to poison and be like "melt!"

carmine chasm
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how good is this from 1-10 ?

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for a nova/lightning blast sorc

robust talon
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There is any secret special interaction sinergy am i missing with wolf Howl ?
the only way to proc it is by killing something right?
no way to proc on hit for solo\boss fight

copper fable
robust talon
wispy vine
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coming back since like may, has the consensus on autocasting changed? will it become a core feature, is it unintended?

dense root
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i believe i've seen the devs say multiple times that it's unintended and we've definitely seen them make design choices that discourage autocasting

wispy vine
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alright, ive found myself in a weird spot where im playing void knight autobomber without realizing what autobomber meant until i switched into the build lol

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im not a fan of it myself

brittle atlas
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it's not something they're going to stop, so much as they want to make skills whose optimal usage isn't autocasting

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and have/will make changes to skills such that autocasting isn't the optimal way to use them

wispy vine
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seems devouring orb and anomaly heavily benefit from autocasting right now

brittle atlas
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eh, devouring orbs cast time makes autocasting very mediocre in practice imo

dense root
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i tried autobomber yesterday actually since i got a legendary omni with % void damage

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and like it seemed strong

midnight timber
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easy enough to respec to a more active build, if you don't enjoy the autobomber 🙂

brittle atlas
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much better to have control over your casts and not spam cast

dense root
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but also felt really awkward to play

marsh maple
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its better to just simply press the button 😄

brittle atlas
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since you don't always need max orbs to clear an echo, for example

wispy vine
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im gonna be a cool kid

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and just press the buttons

brittle atlas
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you can just get 2-3 and lunge/charge through everything

wispy vine
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im coming from median xl where i just got done playing a literal piano build, i think i can handle a couple buttons, dont need to go full lazy brain off lol

brittle atlas
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outside of instant-use skills with no animation time/lock I feel like autocasting is generally not optimal, since locking yourself in place without your direct input is likely to get you killed at times

dense root
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it did seem awkward that if you tried to autocast orbs your character would just stand still for half a second every couple of seconds

fiery sedge
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is more corruption affecting how fast do i get to bosses of empowered timelines? or the stability bar grow simultaneously?

vapid aspen
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Corruption makes you get more stability and does not change requirement

acoustic thicket
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What happens if a glyph of despair fails ?

brittle atlas
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the affix is just upgraded but not sealed

acoustic thicket
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heavybreathing I have 2 chances then on my tier 3 thing that I want to seal

bronze trellis
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do you guys think the coin echos are gonna be valuable once multiplayer and economy comes in

dense root
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probably not unless stuff gets rebalanced

bronze trellis
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I'm thinking that coins are gonna become a lot rarer

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instead of items costing like millions of coins

copper fable
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I think multiplayer is just gonna not really have trading, if they stick to the current thoughts on trade, you cant trade for legendaries and you cant trade for targeted items, only what the bazaar presents you, meaning that relying on or even using trade most likely wont be a thing

dense root
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i doubt they're going to substantially nerf gold acquisition

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but also that would be "stuff gets rebalanced"

bronze trellis
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true

robust talon
bronze trellis
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I'd be fine with semi-ssf too tbh

copper fable
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they would need to regear a few systems to mess with gold gain, are stashes cheaper? is respeccing cheaper? remember, MP is a restart for everyone who wants to play online and each and every cycle you start over

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if you have ever played solo, gold still does not matter but if you hampered its drop rate, it very well could start to become an issue

woven token
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Someone playing Fire aura , is good in this patch??

bronze trellis
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true as well, everything's starting fresh so the devs can really do anything with the economy and not have to worry about people with millions of gold

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I'm excited to see how they're gonna go about it

copper fable
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im very excited for MP as well

brittle atlas
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I'm mostly interested in seeing how broken some party comps can be

copper fable
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Dreadshade + MA

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😏

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boss go byebye

bronze trellis
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partying is gonna get weird

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I don't think current echos can handle more than a single person omegalul

dense root
brittle atlas
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currently yeah probably

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poison squirrel BMs with a necro support comes to mind

robust talon
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Mp party will obliterate everything
i strongly believe
9.0.1 till 9.9.9 patch is gonna be a balance fix everyday with nuke nerfs

bronze trellis
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lmao, party play is so strong it takes the devs eternities to balance it

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they have to use the power of the epoch to go back in time and stop themselves from ever implementing it

robust talon
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true story xd,
hope monsters will scales a lot in terms of health\dmg for every player added to the party, or it gonna be a bad patch for monsters enemies

vapid aspen
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Poison is fairly easy to balance in MP though

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Currently bosses dont get as much shred, they just need to reduce the shred power per player

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Not like halve with 2 players, but maybe like 30% less per player

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still makes the party cool and fun, keeps it from getting out of hand

lilac coral
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do you take "Enemy Modifiers" into Monolith Quest Echos with you (ie the actual quests rather than simple map echoes)?

topaz parrot
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is there any way to make devouring orbs auto-cast so I don't have to constantly hold my key down in order to spawn them?

dense root
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map the skill to a number on your numpad, hold down the number, turn off numlock

robust talon
dense root
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because they don't want it in the game it's just something they haven't gotten rid of

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it's not like a design choice they made and then hid behind the numlock key it's just how keyboards work

spiral umbra
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Do the primalist "Survival of the Pack" minion leech count towards my own health or only theirs, I assume only their own hp

brittle atlas
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only theirs

dense root
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they've been clear that autocasting is not really a playstyle they want to support and the way skills are designed mostly reflects this

spiral umbra
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@brittle atlas ty

robust talon
topaz parrot
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ty boys

brittle atlas
eager magnet
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And yet still better to auto most

dense root
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no?

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the majority of skills are not better when autocast

eager magnet
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Clearly I don’t mean everyone good lord

dense root
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i mean you said "most"

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i think it's like a single digit number of skills

brittle atlas
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eh, there's only a few skills right now I'd consider truly optimal to autocast

dense root
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really the only skill i've played with that i'm fairly confident was better when i tried autocasting it was anomaly but even then i ended up just doing it manually

brittle atlas
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and then some that people autocast despite it being suboptimal that need more changes

eager magnet
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Whatever works for you

brittle atlas
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the only skills I'd personally autocast rn are tornado, maelstrom, and avalanche with their instant cast nodes

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stuff like devouring orb is imo a mistake to autocast

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due to the delay and generally not needing your max orbs to clear

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so autocasting will slow you down in most situations

dense root
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just get so much increased cast speed that it's instant

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ez

brittle atlas
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or something like enchant weapon where you don't need the buff to 1 shot stuff while clearing but want it up for a boss/objective monster

bronze trellis
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tbf though you need to spec into smite to make the healing worth having it autocasted

copper fable
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I dont think you are talking about auto cast

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no one autocasts smite

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triggering other abilities is by design

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autocasting is something else entirely

bronze trellis
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ahh gotcha

copper fable
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Auto casting involves setting up a skill with a CD to be held down thanks to numpad, this lets it "auto cast" as soon as the cd is up

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if you do it with stuff with no CD you just are stuck in place spamming

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😏

bronze trellis
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no wonder I got it confused then
since autocasting sounds unintentional

snow tusk
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does anyone have like a no-brainer build? I feel like everything I try is very gear dependent

copper fable
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its just how keyboards work yeah, they are slowly removing it by reworking skills to suck when you autocast them, or reward you for not.

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Also do you like minions? MA and abomination will farm t4 julra and 200-300 corruption with new player gear

snow tusk
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minions are fine

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whats MA shorthand for?

copper fable
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manifest armor, its a more active single minion build

snow tusk
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you got planner for it?

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or I can look one up

copper fable
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sec ill get stuff

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https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/0-8-4d-kryces-manifest-armour-shield-throw-simply-unethical-damage/46581/56

I played this version, but as a caveat this version is gear based, but I molded it to my own liking.

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/5Q0VEbGo this was a character I played up to 200 corruption in "Solo" with no starting gear

Last Epoch Forums

I started this one from scratch on a new character. Currently sitting at the beginning of Blood. Frost, and Death timeline (un-empowered). I’ve not yet had an easier time with any character, this thing simply destroys. Of course, if there’s a way to screw something up, I’m generally the guy who can find it. Guess I’ll wait and see how things...

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I made my version as a paladin just for holy aura to ease gear requirements

snow tusk
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so you shield throw on your MA and it attacks from it, right?

copper fable
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the guide should go over the basics of Manifest armor as a skill and how it works. But for gear as long as you get a flat crit melee two hander the damage will be fine, the boots are sorta manditory, but it works without them just less damage

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and yeah just throw shield and it attacks

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with my gear I am able to do t4 julra on only 1-2 cycles which is very nice

snow tusk
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does that melee crit multi affect your MA?

copper fable
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on the boots yes

snow tusk
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and you don't need a shield for shield throw??

copper fable
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nope

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We use axes/swords so you can get the 30% attack speed in base sentinal tree to throw shields faster

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The relic is missing, but any hp/minion damage/attunement set up works, I was using vessel of strife which looks like it did not import

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but its not needed right away

snow tusk
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I'll give it a go, thanks!

copper fable
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the boots are a large part of damage, so if you dont have them, its the one item id try and farm

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but you dont need anything else other hten that basicly

snow tusk
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do they drop a specific place?

copper fable
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uhhh you can try farming spirits of fire

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thats where unique boot rewards are

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Last Epoch Forums

Did a complete campaign playthrough today and i have to admit the boss damage is better than my usual zdps builds. I have some short video logs there including some campaign bosses and early normal Monolits/Dungeon. The first ruined era i was mainly totems and staff Upheaval (for massive added cold damage) while crafting minion gear. I switche...

snow tusk
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I don't think I've gotten through the first endgame monolith thing

fiery sedge
#

i have a blessing(empowered) but the roll is bad. Is it possible to roll again with better stat or i have to change to another blessing and then run again to find it better?

robust talon
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it is possible dont worry , u r gonna get 4-5 random blessings every time no matter what u currently have

buoyant sparrow
#

Can I drop Sanguine Hoard on a lich even if it's for marksman? I want to find the item for another build than the one I'm playing at the moment

brittle atlas
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Yes

buoyant sparrow
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ok thanks!

brittle atlas
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You can get items for any class, though at a slightly lower rate

hasty tartan
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Is flame reave bad until you get firebrand, or did I screw something up?

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I can't even kill immortal eyes before they explode

dense root
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you can always run away if your damage isn't enough

hasty tartan
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Yeah, I'm just wondering if the damage normally sucks early on

brittle atlas
#

Flame Reave is definitely a case of “good because it stacks a bunch of more multipliers”

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If you don’t have those yet- the rhythm nodes, firebrand autocrit, blade weaving

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Then it’s not nearly as good

hasty tartan
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I have rhythm but not the others

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I'm level 31 so no firebrand

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Thanks - guess I need to just keep going

fiery sedge
#

does % increased physical damage affect +X bow damage?

topaz parrot
#

is there any safer way to get rid of the mods u dont want on an item rather than using the rune of removal?

dense root
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you can glyph of chaos them if they're below t5 which is sometimes better

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depends a bit on the details

topaz parrot
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oh yeah great idea mate, also running a bit short on removals so yeah that'll do

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cheers!

raw coyote
#

the loot filter is top down, correct?

brittle atlas
brittle atlas
radiant thunder
#

hey, i think i found a bug, how should i proceed?

ripe brookBOT
radiant thunder
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ty!

fierce kraken
topaz parrot
bronze trellis
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does each stack of shock increase the enemy's chance to be stunned, or does it increase your own chance to stun when you hit that shocked enemy

fierce kraken
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Increases enemy's chance to be stunned

bronze trellis
#

oh that's great then

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I got a choice between an inc stun chance blessing and a shock on hit blessing

stone granite
#

Despairs are rare

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And not guaranteed to seal

fierce kraken
#

T1 on a exalted is guaranteed or really close

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I would definitely use removals if you're just going to yolo something but despairs give you a different option.

stone granite
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I would never use a rune of removal period

fierce kraken
#

There is a 25% chance of doing it for free. If an item is not an upgrade but could be if one affix was removed then it sounds okay. A lot of times the odds are better than chaosing into what you do want (depending on available affixes).

pseudo dust
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I only use rune of removal to scrape off rare affixes for the shards

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Too many bad memories to do anything else

vapid aspen
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I use them when an item has 1 good affix and all bad

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Worst case I get shards for good affix

foggy parrot
#

yeesh, the enemy power jump from normal monos to legendary is nuts... I'm still surviving but my health is jumping down really fast (leech is fast enough to help save me from almost dying). is that normal? level 91 right now, all my resistances are overcapped with only nectrotic and void at around 60-70%

north mist
frosty tinsel
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Let's say I have a darkstride with 1 legendary potential and some exalted boots with movement speed. Can darkstride turn legendary with the movements speed affix from the exalted item or not?

pseudo dust
#

when you're killed by "unraveling void" in the julra fight, does that mean the rotating beams?

brittle atlas
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could be the puddles too?

pseudo dust
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i placed the puddles pretty carefully, but i guess i misjudged the beam hitbox

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hard to tell, they'd just spawned in and then i was dead

brittle atlas
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they do a lot of damage

pseudo dust
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sure do, they oneshot basically all my non-vk characters

brittle atlas
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on my bladedancer with RV equipped, capped void res, and crimson shrouds for reduced dot taken they tick for ~1100

vapid aspen
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Dont beams also shred res?

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or is that just pools

brittle atlas
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they do

vapid aspen
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So you want ~100% void res if your goal is facetank

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Funny thing is my regen bear actually can facetank those numbers

brittle atlas
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yeah I can survive them via leech on BD

vapid aspen
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Wonder if you can tank pool and beams XD

pseudo dust
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welp, i'm definitely doing something wrong

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maybe i should be testing the hitbox on the first dungeon

nova jackal
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should I be full clearing the temporal sanctum or is it not worth?

brittle atlas
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the second floor is ok to clear if you want to farm exalted items

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the first floor if the first modifier is good

stone granite
#

I'm playing lightning blast and it feels like the further out the target is the slower I cast, does anyone else feel like that?

gilded plover
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How do resistances work exactly? Say you take 500 fire damage before mitigation and you have 75% fire res with area level 1 (no passive penetration), is this accurate?

Damage Taken = 500 * (1-0.75)

toxic anvil
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Doesn’t area level 1 mean you essentially have 74% resistance?

restive lodge
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Hi im new, and abt to buy thr game. Wanted to ask if this game has achievements?

gilded plover
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For simplicity I’m pretending there’s no penetration but yes I believe you are correct

bronze trellis
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yeah the damage calculation would work like that

sour scaffold
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For simplicity yes, 75% res = 25% of 500

bronze trellis
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not a useful calculation though since you'll almost always be at effectively 0% res

gilded plover
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Well 1 - Res is correct because it also includes penetration properly. A negative resistance will increase the damage taken

bronze trellis
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yeah, having not capped res is much less punishing in this game than in other ARPGs

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it's pretty nice ngl

gilded plover
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Res is capped tho

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It’s capped at 75%

bronze trellis
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yeah im just saying

gilded plover
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Cap only matters with shred which reduces your uncapped res

sour scaffold
#

Tempest Strike has melee+spell scaling tag but they're still completely separate as normal right? The rock spikes won't get my melee phys?

sour scaffold
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Thanks.

bronze trellis
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is this the unique people use to gain giga ward

dense root
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also exsanguinous

bronze trellis
#

look that up rq

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oh cool

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they stack together

gilded plover
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Do any abilities gain damage from ward though? Could be neat to stack a ton of regen and max health and roll exsanguinous with huge ward

static glacier
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If you want huge ward low life alone wont help

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The big Show numbers are from ward on hit or kill stuff usually

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If you have 4k life and no regen you would gain ~1,3k ward per second from ll... that will not take you to above 10 or 20k 😬

bronze trellis
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you would need the boots + chestpiece too, 2 slots taken by uniques

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probably a lot of ehp though ngl

earnest nacelle
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that's not as big a deal as it once was due to legendary items now

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a large part of getting big ward numbers isn't actually in gaining ward, but keeping it, so you need a lot of ward retention

static glacier
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If you are for Show
Frostbite gloves and t6/7 cold res on everything 👀

fierce kraken
valid badger
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Is attack speed from a skill tree like serpent strike multiplicative with global attack speed the same way damage is?

analog copper
dry narwhal
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that relic is pretty bad

brittle atlas
#

@robust talon RE: your questions in ask the devs.

A) it doesn’t seem like it? At least in empowered it seems relatively consistent, my benchmark is 25 echoes for +12.

B) I have never seen an orobyss with more than +20 base corruption, my understanding is that the map is limited in dimensions and will always result in dead ends, most often before you can find a +20. +16 is a much more common dead end.

robust talon
# brittle atlas <@879616900051656724> RE: your questions in ask the devs. A) it doesn’t seem li...

really thank u for the answers

for "A)"
do u actually believe the math formula (approximate if going perfect streight line cardinals)
is
25 echoes = orobyss encounter is the 26th is +12 corruption ?
so this can go infinite?

let's suppose as pure exemple
250 echoes (streight line, approximate math formula)
will result in +120 corruption after killing the Orobyss in that streight cardinal line ?
(my english is trash hope u get it)

brittle atlas
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It seems like every two units of distance is roughly +1 corruption for an orobyss, yeah. I don’t think it’s possible to go that far out, you’ll hit a dead end way before then. As I said, I’ve never seen an orobyss higher than +20. I strongly believe that is the maximum you’ll find before reaching a dead end.

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More often, you’ll only reach +16 or sometimes +18.

robust talon
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ah rip.

and that
2 units = +1 corruption
is identical no matter which was your starting corruption?

same identical formula
if you are in 100 corruption, same as 1000 corruption?
so you can only obtain a +20(max theory) corruption after every reset?

brittle atlas
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In my experience pushing to 1k corruption it seemed pretty static yeah.

robust talon
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really thank u a lot

brittle atlas
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I was often going for only +12 or so before a reset, however

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The higher in corruption you get the more likely it is that your path forward will be blocked off by a modifier or series of modifiers that you can’t run (multiple 400%+ damage modifiers, for example)

robust talon
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yeah i v really got some of those blockers, and i was never able to understand if there was a "dead end" as u suggested,
so i guess
+15 corruption is really the "top" we can aim for each reset.

and what about the
corruption bonus sometimes you can see in the orobyss web echo?
sometimes it seems He gives you not just its planned corruption formula (2unit =1corruption) but also a special Corruption bonus

how do u trigger that?

brittle atlas
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You get bonus corruption if you’re killing orobyss in a timeline that is below the corruption of your highest corruption timeline

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At +10 base corruption, it seems to be half of the difference to your maximum

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Perhaps 5% per base corruption?

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As running a 100 corruption timeline while having 1005 as my highest made a +12 node give 606 bonus

robust talon
robust talon
#

Guys do u know
how item rarity actually works for items?

A)does the drop of an item has an internal roll to be unique\set?
i haven t got more or less uniques\set based on which rarity i am, in echoes
it seems pretty stabilized (only thing that increases it , is the blessing timeline1 with +20% unique drop chance)

b)i do believe that item rarity only increases the number of ** total tiers affixes**
you can drop from a monster
(Not their rolls min-max, this seems extremely randomized)
for exemple (throwing random values)
1000% rarity you have xxx chance to obtain item with tier20+ total
while
100% rarity you have much much lower chance for that.

sage wedge
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Having trouble with my first Aspect of Orobyss in the attempt to corrupt my first echo

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looking for advice on that boss fight

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this is my first attempt at corruption, and I'm dying to what seems to be full-screen Void damage

frigid orbit
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He picks a set of skills out of a big pool of skils. So there is not 'one' simple guide. Easiest in the beginning is try to learn his skills and how they are telegraphed and can be dodged. I think there are some guides on yt

sage wedge
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ok. when there's three purple orbs then the whole screen erupts in purple circles.... how do I dodge that one?

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I'm seeing it telegraphed but it seems to affect the entire (small) arena

frigid orbit
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Is it a big beam going through the screen or void pools explodign when you touch them or a three area growing void scone with small area in between?

sage wedge
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I think three area

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but I see no 'in between' in which to hide out

brittle atlas
#

it always explodes outward to inward

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stay on the inner bit, then go to the outer bit

sage wedge
#

ok

frigid orbit
brittle atlas
#

this one?

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at the timestamp

sage wedge
#

not that one

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there's three small purple sspheres

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then everything becomes bathed in the purple swirly lights

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and that does a ton of Void damage

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I can survive the first usually, not the second time it happens

brittle atlas
#

hmmm I'm not entirely sure which ability it is from that description :\

static glacier
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the void balls that explode?

frigid orbit
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The balls can be 'touched' and explode shortly after so you can walk away after triggering them

sage wedge
#

huh. if I avoid them, they still seem to cover the screen in purple

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then I take a ton of Void damage

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should I try to run through them and move away?

static glacier
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trigger them and move out of the puddle

sage wedge
#

I can't seem to see any 'gap' in the resulting huge bath of void

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it's wider than the circular platform I'm fighting the shade on top of

brittle atlas
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the only arena-wide void damage is the three sequential explosions

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there's nothing else that covers the entire platform

sage wedge
#

huh

frigid orbit
sage wedge
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I'll try again shortly, this time with rip blood

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see if it helps me survive

brittle atlas
#

if you can take a video it'd help a lot to understand what you mean

sage wedge
#

I'll try, thanks for the advice

sage wedge
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video seems not to be working.... still researching

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it looks like the three purple balls then burst into five way shards that shoot outwards

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I hae now survived a few more iterations (1187 health, 76% resist) but still die to void most times

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and my minions get wrecked (Necromancer)

brittle atlas
#

ah those

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yeah they have an area of damage over time around them

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then they burst into projectiles

sage wedge
#

it's hard to escape all three

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I'm gettinb etter with practice. glad there's no death penalty

brittle atlas
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try to be up against a wall and roughly equidistant from two of them

balmy pulsar
#

With sigils skill in paladin is there any other way to auto summon them than the 6% on kill node?

brittle atlas
#

no

icy compass
#

Does "x% increased fire damage" count torwards minions/totems aswell? or does it have to be "x% minion fire dmg"

brittle atlas
icy compass
#

thank you!

dusky kite
static glacier
#

hammer throw works quite fine this way 😉

sage wedge
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found a differe shade, different set of skills, made it further befoere I died to Physical+Void area damage

balmy pulsar
#

Cheers Arborus and Hybria will look into it as want the Xtra block chance

brittle atlas
#

you can also avoid the three projectile nova things by standing in the middle of the arena

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but that is imo his hardest skill to manually avoid

static glacier
#

its the most anoying skill in the game 😛

dusky kite
static glacier
#

too good to skip but still a pain

balmy pulsar
#

Working on a warpath ignite build for the lols of it

sage wedge
#

I've spent a lot of time stacking attack power. Need to pivot to defensive buffs and affixes

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any good defensive skills for Necro damage mitigation?

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I'm probably not ready for Shades, you're right

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not level 70 either

brittle atlas
#

volatile zombies for ward can hard carry defenses themselves for quite a while

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something like this

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and some intelligence and minion life on gear/passives

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will give you large bursts of ward when you need it, and otherwise sustain a decent amount

sage wedge
#

would "Less damage taken" help too?

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I'm going to try zombies, thank you. never used that skill

brittle atlas
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most definitely

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anything that is "less damage taken" is quite strong

sage wedge
#

but I probably can't 'dodge' those things

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right?

brittle atlas
#

you can't dodge damage over time, but you can dodge the projectiles

sage wedge
#

would "ward on hit" help too?

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or are those not considered hits?

brittle atlas
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they are hits, so it would work, but ward on hit isn't particularly strong

balmy pulsar
#

Might be a weird question how many times does a dot damage proc per it's time of damage cycle? Eg ignite for instance does it do a tic once a second or is it every .5secs so forth

brittle atlas
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each dot deals damage at different rates, but the damage is collated into a single number every so often

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visually collated, that is

balmy pulsar
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So for instance how often does ignite do a tic per single stack?

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As I can work out the rest once I know that base line

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So x amount of damage every 1sec for instance

brittle atlas
#

ignite is 35 dps base

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jk

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I lied

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it's 37 damage over 3 seconds

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12.333333 dps

copper fable
#

it ticks faster then that however, but thats really not that important

brittle atlas
#

yeah, there's no way to interact with the actual tick rate

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afaik

balmy pulsar
#

Ok cool cheers for the math I can work the rest out

#

There's no way to increase ignite duration is there under the sentinal and it's masteries or skills is there, or is there any idols that might increase its duration?

copper fable
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you would need to look at the database, it might be possible but Im not sure off-hand. mage iirc does have ignite duration

balmy pulsar
#

I know there's lots of way to increase chance to ignite wasn't sure if there was any way to increase its duration

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Ye I'm pali as doing an ignite warpath pali build

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For the giggles

copper fable
#

of forgefire, its a suffix for helmets/body armor

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for sentinel

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its ignite duration and fire damage together as an affix

balmy pulsar
#

Oh nice I'll have to hunt for them then

balmy pulsar
#

Cheers for that

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Ye I'm on dad duties at the mo so not at computer to search myself wasn't sure if anyone new off the top of there head

copper fable
#

np, gl hunting them 🙂

static glacier
#

Ignite duration on sentinel is a chest and helm affixe isnt it?

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Ignite needs some cool effect right now its just a bad bleed 😫

topaz parrot
#

tf

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just randomly dropped a bastion

dense root
#

yeah i mean that’s possible

copper fable
#

congrats now you enter the phase of build planning where you try and fit it on to every build and realize you cant

topaz parrot
dense root
#

wow my bastion is just sitting in my stash

copper fable
#

good rolls too

topaz parrot
#

this is like a chase-item in LE right?

dense root
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i need to find a shield to smash together with it i guess but idk i’m lazy

copper fable
#

its chase yes, its I think the 5th or 6th rarest item

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its not a top tier god item, but its really really good.

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its just a kinda top tier item

topaz parrot
#

Ight thats good to know lmao, I'm still getting used to the game and I'm only level 65 so yeah

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saw in in Path of Matth's vid and I figured its gotta be something quite decent, especially after I searched it up on lastepochtools

balmy pulsar
#

And with my ignite warpath skill regularly hitting about 5-6 stacks info is saying 230 over 3 secs

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Is ignite effected by fire pen?

copper fable
#

yes

balmy pulsar
#

Was never sure if it was as not sure if it's actually classed as fire due to being a dot and cheers for answering before I posted this lol

brittle atlas
topaz parrot
#

what's a really efficient way of getting to level 100 fairly quickly?

brittle atlas
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do monos through to empowered and push up corruption

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25 hours or so from 1-100 on a decently fast character

copper fable
#

yeah but now we got legendaries so there is real chase chase type items, guess thats pedantic tho

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hehe

brittle atlas
#

just find an lp bastion smart

topaz parrot
#

ight, ty

dusky kite
balmy pulsar
#

Erm any uniques 1 handed weapons you know of that boost ignite chance and damage?

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Preferably melee

brittle atlas
#

Eye of Reen

balmy pulsar
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Cool lvl 70 for that wasn't sure if that was the only one or if there was other options

brittle atlas
#

rainbow edge is fine at lower levels

static glacier
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A 200% eor is pretty unrivaled for pure ignite 1h

balmy pulsar
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Ye I'll look at them later when I'm off dad duties and daughters in bed

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Just checking you know the node on warpath that increases your fire melee and ignite effectiveness against ignited enemies does that increase the damage of ignite or speed up the tics for the ignite effectiveness part of that node?

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Want to be fully cover my bases and make sure I fully understand the skill so when I cover it on my stream I'm giving correct information

dusky kite
#

Ironically I've never seen eye of reen used anywhere but flame reave builds

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For crit multi

balmy pulsar
#

I think it's more for the fire damage boost and the stacking damage buff it gives that's why he suggested it for my build

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As it gives a pretty hefty fire boost if I'm not much mistaken over 150% if I'm not much mistaken

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As well as the fire melee will always be nice for the warpath skill being converted to fire lol

topaz parrot
#

is glyph of despair rare?

dense root
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it's reasonably rare

dusky kite
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Yes it's fairly uncommon

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Not as rare as runes of ascendance or duplication

topaz parrot
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havent dropped one in 3 days

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but I did drop a mirror

daring aurora
#

is there a reason to kill Lagoon and the Oracle right now if i have all passives and skill points?

static glacier
#

Final boss is +1 attributes

copper fable
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10 flat hp from that +1 vitality, true minmaxer stuff

daring aurora
#

ok, if its just that ill level a bit in monos and comne back once i can just sweep them ^^

static glacier
#

And 4% ED!

lethal crane
#

@azure lion hey a couple day you asked in last epoch discord about the dude and 100k gold, it just skip the fight xd

azure lion
#

ahh thank you 😄

lethal crane
#

np, just give me 100k 😄

hardy bramble
#

How can somone target farm eye of reen?

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two of them

dusky kite
#

Rune of ascension? The mono with 1h nodes? Either way it will be a pita and it has a poor LP rate

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But anyways don't go out of your way for the second one, better grab a bastion of honor or something