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acoustic thicket
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i could record a video too if you don't believe me, but those 2 instances of dmg are from the same shot

balmy current
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But the additional Punctures are fired by your Shadows, not you & we know that skills from Shadows can hit the same target.

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Probably not

acoustic thicket
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alright, thanks

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now the question is whether the aoe node actually increases the aoe when used with a bow or if its melee only

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cause it has no visual indicator

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also

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weirdly enough it does not say shadows on the tooltip

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it uses "mirages" instead

sleek cypress
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if your build hits a lot, am i correct in assuming most times penetration is not worth it? as you could invest in shred to easily out-do that effect.

example, i am a lightning build. if i get a TIER 7 lightning pen affix on my amulet, that can easily be replicated by just 3 hits for shred on an enemy... (or 8 hits on a boss)

moreover, the effect nearly becomes negligible if you can manage 20 stacks in 3-4 seconds on a boss (2% x 20 = 40%.. dwarfs 15%). and thats with the exalted mod, the t5 is just 9% pen...

any thoughts on this?

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i guess it can be marginally better than inc dmg if you already have 700% in cdmg

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at that point i feel investing in utility prefix on ammy would be better..

frosty mirage
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Unlike shred though, pen can actually make an enemy take more damage of that damage type. So if the enemy has 0% resistance, shred doesn’t do anything, but 10% penetration will make the enemy take 110% more damage.

In general terms, shred is typically better, but penetration does help.

sleek cypress
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oh, shred can't go below 0. didnt know that

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yeah that matters then

balmy current
sleek cypress
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ye

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exactly

balmy current
sleek cypress
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oh...

balmy current
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Also, 10% pen wouldn't make the target take 110% more damage.... They would take 10% more, or 110% of the incoming damage.

sleek cypress
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XD

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i mean that would be great if it was 110 more tho right

frosty mirage
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Apologies, in my example I was equating 0% resistance to 100% damage taken of that damage type not taking into consideration any other defenses (I.e. armor)

sleek cypress
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all g i know what u meant :)

frosty mirage
sleek cypress
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ig it can still be meaningful.

example, if you manage to get 10% pen, on 40% shred, then that brings from 40% more dmg to 50% more dmg... which is a 25% more dmg modifier...

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sorry thats dumb

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its a 7% more dmg modifier

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its something... 🤷‍♂️

frosty mirage
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I’m also 100% still waking up this morning, so I’ve probably looked over or can’t recall situations where it is extremely useful

Edit: Looks like pen from skill trees can affect ailments applied by said skill unless specified as on hit, I also suppose pen is nice in that it’s not an ailment mechanic like shred is

sleek cypress
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how many hits per second do you guys think you can get with flurry / multishot shotgunning a dummy

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wish i could calc that kind of thing -_-

balmy current
versed shale
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Hello there. Have a question about blade dancer: I'm building poison shuriken build with acid flask, shift, decoy and probably smoke bomb (did not unlock last 2 specialization yet so have time to choose). And I face some serious mana issues. That is the part of character building, no complaints there. But I just cannot figure out what options I have to deal with it. Obviously I can craft mana and mana regen, and there is one node in shurikens that low their cost by 3 for 3 points but I also want to get another node that will raise cost by the same 3 mana so that would not help me at all. Is there any skill I can look into? Or maybe I overlook something in smoke bomb tree that will give me some mana?

fluid cedar
versed shale
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Yes, and I think I just did. The main mana drain is shurikens skill. It actually does not have that big mana cost, I just spam it. And I just find that ballista affix should actually solve my problem - It lowers throw skills cost by flat amount, on t2 it will lower for 3 mana I think and that should be just enough for my mana regen to keep me positive even in long fights.

tulip ruin
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does the +flat physical bow damage add/convert to lightning with detonate arrow?

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both implicit and the the ones from prefix

balmy current
tulip ruin
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no it doesnt

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it only says bow damage

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so wasn't sure if PHYS was excluded

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if it's all bow damage then even fire damage gets converted?

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so i can put flat fire damage and it will convert? thats pretty op

balmy current
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It does, "all added bow damage is converted to lightning".

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Added damage is flat damage

tulip ruin
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thats amazing thank you

balmy current
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If it's only converting a specific element to a different one then it will say so.

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Like "all added fire damage is converted to lightning"

fluid cedar
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yo llama. you know if the "quality" of affixes on idols is related on item quality drop?
like, if it's more likely to 12% or 17%.
looking at dozens and hundreds of idols just to see everything be shit. and sadly it appears not possible to add this into loot filter rules.

balmy current
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But I doubt that higher IQ monos would be more likely to drop "useable" idols (ie, idols with "matching" affixes.

fluid cedar
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affixes type probably random i would say. just the quality of the roll is what makes me wonder. or they are generally more likely to be "bad".

tight olive
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Is there a way to change the color between runes and shards from the loot filter?

sleek cypress
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anyone know if i can take the converted crit multi on bleed effectiveness with salt the wound

balmy current
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No

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Stuff can only be converted once

sleek cypress
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heh

balmy current
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Plus I don't think there's anything that converts bleed effectiveness

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off the top of my head

sleek cypress
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yea makes sense

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was thinking about using this with it

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but ur just gonna have frostbite with bleed effectiveness unconverted

vital pumice
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hi all, ¿exist a way to turn off shadows and ambien oclussion?

hollow coral
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How long does it take more or less for a support ticket to be responded to?

tight kernel
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how do i measure 10 metre in game?

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how many metre are we talking about when we say "nearby"?

knotty hinge
bronze ocean
unkempt patio
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I just got to the monolith for the first time, what's the best way to approach using the monolith? Clear condition as fast as possible and move up? Or is it clear out the maps then move on?

unkempt patio
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Good to know. Thanks!

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One more question, is there any reason to farm the endless arena other than for leaderboard pushing? I can't tell if the rewards can even be good enough for me to care before pretty high level.

merry aspen
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arena is also supposed to be good for fast levelling but you need a build thats good for it. aside from that its pretty much only leaderboards, yeah.

minor vigil
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hey do yall prefer smite void knight or like void cleave/erasing strike? ive tried both and i think smite scales better

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but erasing strike seems more satisfying, just not sure about its viability

fierce kraken
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i think hammer throw smite scales the best, but id say play what you have more fun with.

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if going for the most optimal build is the most then smite hammer throw.

minor vigil
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ah ok, honestly my preference for power is just "good enough" so if erasing strike is good then ill do that

toxic bay
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Hey guys, I have a couple of weird questions. I got into Last Epoch recently, created my first character and I'm currently following boardman's Void Knight Warpath guide, approaching level 70. The build is really fun, works great, but I'm trying to get my head around gearing in this game.

I already learned some stuff about crafting, got the hang of the whole stability and fracture thing. Dunno how to go about upgrading my items tho. Coming from PoE I'm terrified that I cant even cap my resistances ;d
How do you generally gear a brand new character? How do I know if the items I dropped are good enough to spend my materials on? And what should be my priorities?
The loot filter helps a ton to filter out the best items for my build but I still doesn't get why it shows certain items. Half of the stuff I pick up seems unusable, just combinations of a good affix with couple of bad ones.

Sorry for the long post and a lack of clear questions but I'm looking for a guidance in terms of gearing ;d I understand the endgame, skills and passives, but I don't really see a progress path for my items.

tight kernel
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oh my gosh... who can save me from merged stash tabs? T.T

tight kernel
frosty mirage
# toxic bay Hey guys, I have a couple of weird questions. I got into Last Epoch recently, cr...

https://youtu.be/g3YP37Uzm-8

I really like this guide the LizardIRL has, you really want to try to derive your defenses from base implicits, passive points, and blessings as much as possible and then fill in the gaps with your gear

Watch me live:
https://www.twitch.tv/lizard_irl

In this video I go over how to cap your resistances with very low investment!
Hope it helps!

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visual oracle
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hi, does someone know if the game will be translated in french for the full release ?
(and when it will be fully released ? there is written 2021 on internet, if anyone has further information)

frosty mirage
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I believe they are interested in localizing games in various languages , but it will probably be after launch when they are finished with the campaign.

There are also certain keywords for mechanics they want to make sure can be translated properly as intended. Such as added, increased, and more with damage. Each have a specific meaning in the game and a particular order when it comes to calculating damage. So if you get those incorrect on translations, it can lead to a lot of confusion

visual oracle
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thx 🙂

toxic bay
cloud kindle
visual oracle
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ça marche merci 🙂 @cloud kindle

minor vigil
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does darkstride only drop in spirits of fire?

timber agate
minor vigil
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Ah thanks!

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Hopefully they're common

balmy current
acoustic thicket
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can you equip anything on your second hand slot while two-handing a sword? like bow users can use a quiver in that slot even though the bow is two-handed

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was just wondering cause the slot doesn't seem grayed out

minor vigil
balmy current
acoustic thicket
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ty

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shouldn't this icon mean that the ability is capable of dealing void damage?

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the bottom one

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i don't see any nodes that have anything to do with void in the smite tree

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i see some lightning nodes

trim heath
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class passive tree has a node

acoustic thicket
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aaaah

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thanks

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i was looking all over the smite tree for it lol

trim heath
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sometimes it can be an item too

acoustic thicket
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oh ok

minor vigil
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whats the biggest thing to get on gear if i'm dying in early monoliths (level 75)

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assuming just flat health

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or would that woven flesh thing be good for the crit immunity

cloud kindle
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hybrid health?

minor vigil
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oh that does seem good lol

minor vigil
lone flume
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800 armour is way low

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you have too many resists overcapped? That is not needed. 75 is enough in most cases. Focus on other stats of defence

minor vigil
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thanks!

fluid cedar
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Would "on hit" effects be applied by void rift?

brittle atlas
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Yes, anything that hits

jovial leaf
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Hello, could you please clarify how exactly mob's penetration works?
Does penetration ignore overcupped resistances and is applied against basic resistances (up to 75%) or the penetration takes into account overcupped resistances values? For example I have 125% fire resistance in total. If the mob has 75% penetration will it be applied against 75% of fire resistance or against 125%, i.e. the fire damage dealt by the mob will be against 50% of fire resistance?

dark fox
iron thistle
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Also Death Mark.

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But that's not a very common condition.

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I think lightning, necro, phys, and maybe poison/void are the only resists to consider overcapping. There are more sources of poison damage now, but it often comes in the form of a dot if it's going to be giving the poison stats. The rest are either shock or common sources of Death Mark/shred.

balmy current
balmy current
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So if you have 100% resist, 2 stacks of resist shred (-8% resist) in a lvl 100 zone, you'd still be capped (100% - 8% = 92%, capped to 75%)

minor vigil
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do void spell builds like this staff? or is giving up the block from the shield too much of a cost

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oh it looks like mine is very poorly rolled

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that's unfortunate

jovial leaf
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It turns out that there is no special benefit from the overcap of resists. If the character for the endgame is correctly builded, of course.

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If u build correctly, -25% resist no strong affect damage to you.

pastel garnet
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I'd overcap lightning by up to 40

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Act9 energy elementals apply instant 20 shock stacks to you

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This is - 40 lightning res

jovial leaf
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Yes, but luckily they are not common.

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And you forget how shock works on players. Less 60% effectiveness on players.

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Oh, its my fault. You right. But it's not common mobs.

dusky robin
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Hi is 0.8.4 out yet?

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I saw a video for it recently

minor vigil
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No

acoustic thicket
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does this item work to reduce warpath's mana cost? it's channeled so i'm not quite sure

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i can't test because my warpath already costs 0 without it and i don't wanna respec

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but if it did work to reduce it then i'd wanna respec

brittle atlas
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I think it does? but it's generally not something you'd want to use other early game until you get access to the Argent Crest base at level 58

acoustic thicket
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oh

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i'm not level 58 yet so idk what argent crest is lol

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i assume it does the job better?

brittle atlas
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it's 30-45 cold res and 30-45 lightning res

acoustic thicket
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and it also comes with the mana cost reduction/

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?

brittle atlas
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no

acoustic thicket
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oh

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well i'm not particularly struggling with cold/lightning res so i don't see a need to swap to that

brittle atlas
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it just saves you two suffix slots on resists, making it the most affix efficient base to use

acoustic thicket
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but i'm using warpath as my main skill, so having it cost 0 is very important to me

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reducing its cost by -3 saves 2 points on the warpath tree

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which is also pretty nice i think

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that is, if it works

brittle atlas
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I'm pretty sure it does, but using a non-resist implicit relic means you need to cover ~80% resists on gear, so you're losing like...200-300 hp and stressing your suffixes more when it comes to capping endurance, crit avoidance, etc.

acoustic thicket
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what is the endurance cap?

brittle atlas
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60%

acoustic thicket
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is it very important to cap that?

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i never really got past level 50 so idk what lategame really looks like

brittle atlas
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it is the most powerful defensive layer

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relative to the investment it takes

acoustic thicket
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i see

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i was more focused on just capping all my resistances then raising my armor as much as possible

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didn't really think about endurance or crit avoidance

brittle atlas
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you can cap endurance with gloves (15% implicit on Engraved base) and empowered blessing (25% or better roll) or you can use suffixes for it most efficiently on rings, though it's available on a lot of slots

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if you're a paladin, you can get endurance % in the passives too

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and that would save you suffix or needing the gloves if you have a 26% or better empowered blessing roll

acoustic thicket
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is there any way to get my endurance threshold up? and is there a cap to it?

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do people generally worry about getting the endurance threshold up or only the actual endurance stat

iron thistle
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It's not a major concern during the early part of the game where you're still doing the story, though. Maybe once you start getting to the Heorot stuff around 48 you'll need to care about defenses a little.

acoustic thicket
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i'm level 56 right now. first character i got this far

brittle atlas
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there's endurance threshold suffixes and a blessing, there's no cap. Generally, people ignore threshold entirely, as you naturally get 20% of your max hp as threshold

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so stacking more hp ends up being more efficient than using suffixes for threshold affixes

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outside of very specific builds

acoustic thicket
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i see

iron thistle
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I think Primalist has a build where flat threshold is usable?

acoustic thicket
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this is what my resistances look like rn. i guess i need to change my gear a lot

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elemental resist is overkill cause i'm using the node that reduces my elemental resist by 30% when i'm spinning

iron thistle
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You probably want to pick up some poison res for Majasa.

acoustic thicket
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definitely

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everything around this area is just vomiting poison on me lol

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so i was looking to max that out

iron thistle
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Are you DW or using a shield?

acoustic thicket
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DW

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well not DW

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using a two-handed sword, is that considered bad?

iron thistle
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I was gonna say, there's a really convenient shield base for poison res if you just need something to cover.

acoustic thicket
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i have a ton of useless affix slots rn so i just need to find some gear that i can put poison resist in

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but i'm also quite frustrated at the crafting system

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multiple times i find a good base roll

brittle atlas
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gWE6xW8Xlw

I would suggest this video for when you get going into monoliths and endgame. It does a really good job I think of explaining the philosophy behind what I would call "suffix placement", that is, where it's best to have certain suffixes on your gear and the general concepts of trying to get your resists and defenses covered as efficiently as possible.

Watch me live:
https://www.twitch.tv/lizard_irl​

HP basics that you should always keep in mind when building characters in Last Epoch:

Helmet:
Vitality
% Health

Chest:
Vitality
% Health

Belt:
Hybrid Health
% Health

Boots:
Vitality
Hybrid Health

Gloves:
Hybrid Health

Enjoy!

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acoustic thicket
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and then it cracks at 95% lol

iron thistle
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Sweet, I like what I've seen of his vids. Efficiency is a good thing.

brittle atlas
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following the concepts in the video will let you cover your bases defensively while still fitting as much HP as possible

acoustic thicket
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i'll watch that later when i'm doing monoliths

iron thistle
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Oh, doesn't Sentinel have a passive or idol that converts poison damage into phys or something?

brittle atlas
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a small amount I think?

acoustic thicket
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yeah ive seen some of those

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but it feels awkward to use

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feels like it'd be easier to just max out poison res instead

brittle atlas
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it's on body armor and helmets

iron thistle
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Helmet and chest prefix.

brittle atlas
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but yeah, getting some poison res is definitely better than giving up a prefix for it imo

iron thistle
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Yeah, especially since those slots have +skills most of the time.

acoustic thicket
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so in general people value getting defensive affixes more than offensive ones?

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like where do i make room to try to get offensive stuff

brittle atlas
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generally prefixes are offensive, suffixes are defensive

iron thistle
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Vitality being a notable prefix exception.

brittle atlas
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^

acoustic thicket
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i see

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strength is kind of a defensive prefix too right? since strength increases your armor

brittle atlas
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yeah, attributes are all prefixes and are a bit hybrid in use

acoustic thicket
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also what is "hybrid health", i haven't seen that in the game yet but a while ago i saw someone say its good to get

iron thistle
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It gives flat and percent.

brittle atlas
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it's a suffix that gives a bit of flat health and a bit of increased health

iron thistle
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Only available on a few item slots.

acoustic thicket
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i see

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does sound pretty good

brittle atlas
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generally, increased health is the most important suffix to get on every available slot for it, then hybrid health

acoustic thicket
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also

brittle atlas
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and you're building around trying to get all of those suffixes and getting resists/other suffixes on slots that can't roll those

acoustic thicket
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since i'm doing a build where warpath is my main ability and it costs 0

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i'm effectively always channeling, at least when i'm in combat anyways

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so i can use the "all resistances while channeling" shard

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that's pretty good right

iron thistle
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Could be useful.

brittle atlas
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that one is pretty good yeah

acoustic thicket
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should make it much easier to get resists

brittle atlas
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which mastery are you again?

acoustic thicket
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void knight

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i thought the spinny clones were cool so i went with it

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it's a bit of an awkward situation though

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i have the spin ability, which i'm using 100% of the time

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and then i can get it to cast abyssal echoes while i'm spinning, which is nice

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but then i have 3 other skill specialization slots that i don't know what to do with

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cause i won't use the other 3 abilities lol

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i picked smite just so i can blink to enemies, but thats about all im using it for

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and i have 2 empty specialization slots and i have no idea what to do with them since i just spin all the time

brittle atlas
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anomaly and volatile reversal are both super strong for buffs

acoustic thicket
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i can't understand what anomaly does and the more i try to read it the more it confuses me

brittle atlas
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devouring orb is super good for applying tons of resistance/armor shred stacks around you

acoustic thicket
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what the hell does sending enemies to the future mean

brittle atlas
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normally, you use it and it just deletes enemies in that area for four seconds

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then they come back

acoustic thicket
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how do i make use of that

brittle atlas
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but the way it's generally spec'd out is to make it put a time bubble around you instead and give you a bunch of attack speed, crit, leech

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you can use the unspecialized version to cancel some boss abilities

acoustic thicket
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aah. i see the time bubble now

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does sound pretty nice

near osprey
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heyo will our progress in early access be carried into release?

brittle atlas
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Yes, but current progress is all on offline characters. You will still be able to play those offline characters going forward, but if you want to play online multiplayer you'll need to make online characters which will be separate.

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offline and online can't mix, basically

near osprey
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awesome ;>

acoustic thicket
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think i'm gonna spec for the time bubble then just to buff myself up

near osprey
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im debating to get it now or wait for sale ;>

brittle atlas
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the bubble, especially the leech nodes are super strong

acoustic thicket
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and the devouring orb can be used to shred armor you said?

brittle atlas
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yeah, with the abyssal orbs nodes and the node to make it orbit you

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you end up with a ton of these balls around you that hit enemies and puke out more balls

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and each of those balls does a hit that can apply armor and resistance shred effects

acoustic thicket
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well

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my main concern with devouring orb is that it looks like its gonna devour my mana lol

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wonder how i'm gonna sustain that

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since whenever i'm spinning i can't regen mana

iron thistle
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Magic. Duh.

brittle atlas
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volatile reversal is the general answer to mana sustain on basically all of the sentinel classes

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but takes some getting used to

acoustic thicket
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yeah

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i guess that'd mean giving up smite. but i'm literally only using smite to blink to enemies and that's not really necessary

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oh, anomaly costs no mana. that's pretty handy

iron thistle
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I still want to test that on my FG winion build instead of Vengeance, but I really like some of the buffs it gives.

brittle atlas
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the time bubble nodes make it cost 20

acoustic thicket
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nah

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thats the node that makes the time bubble follow you

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the time bubble node itself does not come with a mana cost

brittle atlas
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yeah, you kinda need/want that

acoustic thicket
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yeah i figured

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i guess this is gonna be my new build

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hooray, actually using all my specialization slots

brittle atlas
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huzzah

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devouring orb is one of my favorite skills in the game tbh

acoustic thicket
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it does sound fun. i almost made my build around it

brittle atlas
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full builds based around it feel super good to me

acoustic thicket
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but the spin was too cool

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what do people get on the volatile reversal to buff themselves up?

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i see one node for attack and cast speed, and one node for movespeed

brittle atlas
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something like this

acoustic thicket
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seems about identical to what i was going to do lol

brittle atlas
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you can also put points in the node that makes it send you back further

acoustic thicket
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sounds like this ability is going to take a while to get used to

brittle atlas
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yeah, I'd say it's one of the higher skill cap skills in the game

iron thistle
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I think the time difference nodes take a lot of adjusting to.

acoustic thicket
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reminds me of a similar ability in dota lol

brittle atlas
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but once you're practiced with it you can do some really cool stuff

acoustic thicket
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does about the exact same thing

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brings you back like 5 seconds and sets your position, health and mana to what it was

brittle atlas
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yeah

acoustic thicket
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though that one you use like once every minute so its a bit easier to keep track of

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sounds like i'm gonna be spamming this one which will melt my brain a bit

iron thistle
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Melting baddies sometimes requires a sacrifice.

kind sandal
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Yo so I made this helmet ages ago and recently came back. I could have sworn it was "full" when I made it

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Why can I put another prefix on there?

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ohh did the +%ele/gear get turned into endurance?

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so they changed it from prefix to suffix which means this item is kinda bugged

dense remnant
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thats pretty cool ngl

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save it for prosperity

steel phoenix
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was there a multiplayer progress update for the month of October put on the forum or talked about in a stream at all?

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I know they were working on getting into the community play testers hands during october from the September update - but was just curious. 🙂 thank you in advance

Edit; also know the play test is slotted for 0.8.4

upper merlin
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Anyone run this game on a comp that only hits the low requirements?

tight kernel
noble pelican
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Is it me or is the echoes on warpath a bit inconsistent?

marsh maple
acoustic thicket
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is there some hotkey/command to drop items on the ground? (or perhaps drop everything in your inventory / current stash tab)
gets very tedious to drag-and-drop in batches.

acoustic thicket
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so make sure to keep running

rocky fable
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Is it possible to create a rule in the loot filter that will highlight loot that has rolled high?

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Pour examplé

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a Jade Amulet with max base stats?

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So it'd be easier to find strong crafting bases?

cloud kindle
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Not possible yet

rocky fable
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If only I knew how to hack to game to make it possible

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thank you for your answer

woeful parcel
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They have something similar to that on Poe that was just recent, so perhaps it's something that will come

sleek cypress
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Damn.. T5 increased CDR on helm is 14% and T7 is 19%... 🤒

dusty void
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When will the druid update drop? I cant find a date.

snow spruce
regal osprey
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I'm confused about abyssal echoes, so abyssal decay doesn't stack anymore, right?

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I used to play abyssal echoes before they changed it

snow spruce
regal osprey
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That kind of sucks doesn't it? What's the point of getting the 0 cooldown passive?

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I'm guessing it also doesn't stack if I get the fragility passive?

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Furthermore, how come there are essentially 2 nodes that allow it to be cast at cursor, screaming rifts, which also allows it to echo, and dark torrent, which only allows it to be cast at cursor

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This skill is confusing, man. esentially I get nothing by spamming it now

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except maybe the void rift chance

brittle atlas
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If you’re gonna spam it it’s because you have a way to consume the dot with a hit that fast

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Or because you’ve converted it to hit damage itself

regal osprey
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I tried that hit damage passive. It sucks

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The damage isn't good. I think it's intended for paladin

brittle atlas
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Nah, by default if you hit the enemy it consumes the dot and does the entire dot damage at once

regal osprey
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I'm using it with devouring orb. It's okay. But the devouring orb activation is inconsistent

brittle atlas
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Are you using the abyssal orbs node? I found it quite consistent with that and the orbit node

regal osprey
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and the devouring orb when it activates does the abyssal echoes damage

brittle atlas
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End up with 4-5 orbs around you each spitting out 3-4 abyssal orbs per second

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Which does a ton of hits to consume abyssal decay and apply void resist shred

regal osprey
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Oh, I didn't consider that

brittle atlas
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Yeah, I felt pretty good about the boss damage when I tried it like that earlier this patch

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Used like... the node that makes it echo at cursor location and just maxed out duration

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Used idols for void mana efficiency and more abyssal decay duration

regal osprey
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You didn't go for time compression to remove cd?

brittle atlas
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No

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I was only using it for single target, and was trying to stack a ton of multipliers into a burst window

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Like anomaly 100% increased void damage taken and Reversal increased damage taken

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I was getting to like 45-50k pops on Orobyss, 5 times per cast iirc

fresh mica
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Can I ‘unspecalize’ a skill?

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I kinda chose the wrong specialized skill earlier in the game

tranquil kindle
# fresh mica Can I ‘unspecalize’ a skill?

Yes, if you open the tree there's a respec button at the top right and if you click on that it'll give you the choice to unspecialize the skill or respec individual nodes. In both cases you need to relevel the skill, but it'll level up faster than it did originally assuming you're a higher level than you were when you originally specialised in the skill, because you'll be gaining xp faster.

fresh mica
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Ahh, I see

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Thanks :)

red heart
woeful parcel
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Wow

marsh maple
# red heart Warpath sucks and so does the paladin -_-

Warpath Paladin Flame Burst, Best Warpath Build In The Game As Of Patch 8.3e Last Epoch Build Guide

This build has definitely blown me out of the park, as I had 100% believed the cast on hit warpath was dead due to the nerfs to Volcanus warpath, sadly by ditching Volcanus the devs made an even greater monstrosity.

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sleek cypress
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does endurance seem kind of shitty to anyone else as a defensive stat. or am i doing my calculations wrong.

for example, t7 helmet endurance gives 30%. t7 health gives 24% increased..

For example- i have 2,000 hp. Threshold = 400. +30% endurance gives 120 EHP. +24% increased health competes with 120 EHP if I have a 500 health base... which you most likely have more than that. More likely 24% increased health is gonna give you like 200 hp... AND the increased hp increases your endurance threhold...

Bottom line, it seems both endurance and hp scale of HP... but HP just scales better. endurance seems kind of lackluster, is my thinking off?

woeful parcel
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That's pretty much what I noticed

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I thought it'd be more like fortify/fortification from Poe

sleek cypress
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it just seems to me like something youd never want to invest in save for niche circumstances. but i could be doing some incorrect calcs, cause i've seen people say you should prioritize endurance..

balmy current
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Endurance is also makes regen/leech/life on hit more effective since you take less damage & likely have less hp so you regain your hp faster.

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Endurance makes more sense for some builds/classes than others.

minor vigil
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does this affect dots

balmy current
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It only affects Spirit Plague, not ailments (poison, bleed, etc) since ailments aren't spells & don't scale with spell damage.

minor vigil
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ahh ok so spirit plague is affected by all increases to spell damage but the plague and poison would not be if i specced into those

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thanks

balmy current
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Yes, though to complicate things, since Spirit Plague has the DoT tag, it'll also be affected by any % DoT damage (which will also affect your poison/etc)

sleek cypress
dense remnant
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also in case you werent aware, endurance reduces the damage you take to your health in the endurance threshold, no matter how much health you had when you took the damage

vestal heart
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hey guys any news on the multiplayer ?

dense remnant
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i.e. if you endurance threshold is 500, and your health is 1500, being hit when at max health for 2000 damage, will mean endurance applies to the 0-500 health, and you wont get one shot. Its not just something that only applies if you get hit while your current health is in the endurance threshold

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!mp

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!multiplayer

ripe brookBOT
dense remnant
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@vestal heart

vestal heart
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@dense remnant i read the September update but no new one

sleek cypress
brittle atlas
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and most of the time, you don't need to use any suffixes for it

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You just need the engraved gloves implicit and the spirits of fire empowered blessing

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and that timeline otherwise basically only has fire res shred, necrotic res shred, and armor while channeling as useful blessings

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so almost every build can take the endurance blessing

sleek cypress
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good point

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dodge rating aint bad

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but thats niche

brittle atlas
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I would never take the dodge blessing tbh

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any build that can really use dodge is getting big dodge with basically no suffix/prefix investment

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maybe suffixes on weapons

sleek cypress
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I see..

brittle atlas
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like...serpent strike, maelstrom, and any rogue that can stack dusk shrouds or use shift

sleek cypress
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Yeah, i get what you mean by that

brittle atlas
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I wouldn't really consider dodge for anyone else

limber finch
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Where can I find good build for this game please ?

balmy current
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the forum

limber finch
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it is the best way to find good builds ?

ivory otter
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is there a item that converts all lightning dmg into fire=

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?

frosty mirage
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In terms of all damage sources across all skills? Not that I know of, most damage conversions are either skill based via a skill node or via a set/unique. There are some uniques that act similarly, Such as Maehlin’s Hubris gloves that converts bleed chance to ignite chance. But those are much smaller in scope in terms of the conversion.

bold pendant
#

How is the fps optimitazion in the game right now? running at like 110 fps on medium - high - very high with my rtx 360 ti
3060*

frosty mirage
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It’s something that they are continually working on. I will say that it’s probably the biggest drawback to the game, there can be some serious frame drops depending on mob and light particle density.

From my understanding, a lot of the optimization efforts are around CPU load, but optimization is a topic that any game that is more of a SaaS model will continue to work on throughout its life cycle

ivory otter
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another question, in the lightning blast tree, it says it cant double cast if another skill casted it

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but on the quadruple cast its only saying that its not working when channeled

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ah nvm

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can only quadruple cast if it hits with double cast

mighty tinsel
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I have switched the left and right click to attack and move, however whenever i talk to an npc, or use anything left click i now do the basic attack as well. Is there a way to disable this or change it so it wont attack whilst im accepting quests?

ancient moat
#

hey do we have a date at all for .8.4

dense remnant
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mid december

minor vigil
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is there a solid way to keep my skeletons from dying to literally any magical damage

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i have all the bone armor stuff

iron thistle
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Have you tried giving them fancy hats?

snow spruce
ashen anvil
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Does flat phys affect bleed at all?

frosty prism
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Melee/spell/X added Phys damage won't but increased physical % damage will

frosty mirage
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Like Amarathy said, ailment base damage is fixed, and thus isn’t affected by flat damage modifiers

ashen anvil
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I see, I ask because I dropped a bardiche with T6 flat phys and everything else on it is nice too

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figures

frosty prism
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You can always look at hybrid builds that scale melee Phys and bleed. They're typically less popular because it's harder to gauge your dummy dps without seeing big crits or the ailment tick rate but they definitely work and have heaps of support

vernal bluff
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saw these, and i am not sure, but what do i have to do to get leech from damage over time?

acoustic thicket
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if a node gives 25% more damage to a spell (multiplicatively), does it affect the ailment the spell inflicts?

balmy current
acoustic thicket
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thanks

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this extends to both ailments added by nodes and gears right?

balmy current
rigid briar
brave ibex
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There's also some nice items that let you leech DoT like Avarice (elemental) and Valdyr's Chalice (bleed)

acoustic thicket
#

so about "more damage" again, if a spell casts another spell (say, rip blood casting blood splash, or void erasing strike casting void rip), if the 2ndary skill isn't mentioned, then it's not affected by "more damage" right?

rigid briar
acoustic thicket
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I see, thanks

rugged grotto
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Hi, a build that is similar to the path of exile cyclone builds?

marsh maple
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@rugged grotto you got 2 choices

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CoC Cyclone or just generic Crit Cyclone

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theres also bleed cyclone

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Warpath Paladin Flame Burst, Best Warpath Build In The Game As Of Patch 8.3e Last Epoch Build Guide

This build has definitely blown me out of the park, as I had 100% believed the cast on hit warpath was dead due to the nerfs to Volcanus warpath, sadly by ditching Volcanus the devs made an even greater monstrosity.

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this is the one I recommend, the coc cyclone

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this is the other one, if you want speed

rugged grotto
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and are they good?

marsh maple
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Yes some of the best builds in the game currently

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Bleed is super tanky

rugged grotto
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uu ok tks

normal dust
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hi guys, is +armor from "rallying block" influenced by +%armour bonuses from affixes?

marsh maple
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yes all of it would be @normal dust

normal dust
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thx

marsh maple
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@rugged grotto if you look on the channel theres multiple cyclone/warpath builds, there are many flavors in the game rn. I am only done with like half of them

rugged grotto
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ok thanks a lot for the info

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which is the cyclone bleeding?

rugged grotto
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@marsh maple what is the build of tank bleeding?

marsh maple
#

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planner is in the description

rugged grotto
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ok

manic thicket
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Do effects that trigger when a skill kills something trigger if ailments applied by it are the killing blow?

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Like Lethal Mirage CDR node

viscid musk
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Is there a timeline that you guys prefer for pushing corruption?

brave ibex
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Last Ruin for chance of Ravenous Void drop

manic thicket
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thanks!

compact canyon
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Are filters not cloud saved? Had to reinstall windows and everything, and my filters are gone

frosty mirage
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Nope, they are local

compact canyon
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heck

frosty mirage
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I ended up emailing mine to myself when I changed computers/upgraded. Sounds like it is the same computer. There’s possibly one drive but I have never used that feature so I don’t know if it would be there or not or if it can even be uploaded automatically

compact canyon
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I had a breakdown. No chance to save anything

lost acorn
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Anyone know a reason the dryad jailer mobs in farwood does not have a mini health bar when all other mobs have one?

iron thistle
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They're not enemies. They're hostile friends.

lost acorn
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haha, I'd accept that if it was their ice shield summons that had no health bar but these do have it 🙂

opaque quest
#

Newbie question; Can a unique with a higher required level drop in a lower level zone?
EG: I want Omnividence, but Stolen Lance is level 62. Do I need to empower it first?

brittle atlas
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Yes, you need to be in a zone level that meets the requirement

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Omnividence is also quite rare, so you could be at it for a long time

opaque quest
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I see, Thank you! 🙂

minor vigil
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do we know if stash tabs are gonna reset each cycle

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or if like our current amount of stash tabs will be offline only

tight kernel
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does this lightning dmg gets converted to cold if i select the convert to cold node?

rugged grotto
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I have skeleton minions, how do I know if the fire damage bonus to minions works or not?

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If they are archer minions, does fire damage serve them or not?

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or does it only affect if the minion already deals fire damage on its own?

brittle atlas
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increased minion fire damage only applies if they have some source of fire damage already

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added minion fire damage applies regardless

rugged grotto
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ok

brittle atlas
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skeleton archers I believe have a flame arrow skill, which does deal some base fire damage

rugged grotto
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by default it would be physical

brittle atlas
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their autoattacks deal physical damage yeah

rugged grotto
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ok

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tks

sleek cypress
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anyone else noticing that all unique filter is failing for unique idols

brittle atlas
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I think even in ingame they're not truly the unique rarity?

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they have the like blue-ish idol rarity still instead

sleek cypress
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wdym lol

brittle atlas
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Hmm maybe I’m misremembering. I’m pretty sure I’ve seen them have the normal idol rarity color somewhere

opaque quest
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I'm having frame drops occasionally, usually once every other area. Any good solution for this?

balmy current
exotic juniper
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Hello there, i just started the game yesterday and im really loving it , i was wondering, is there "builds" to follow or it's as i want ? Because i spend points a bit randomly, can i still reset them later ?

neat creek
exotic juniper
neat creek
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yeh sorry poe slave here, dont remember how it is called there

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mastery

exotic juniper
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Same no worries haha

neat creek
exotic juniper
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Is lich a bad class ?

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Spec*

frosty mirage
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It could use some love.

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Crit Lich is fine from my understanding but I know DoT lich got hit hard with the nerf hammer this last patch

exotic juniper
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Oh :c

frosty mirage
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To be fair, I did watch @brittle atlas absolutely destroy a 1000 corruption Orobyss with his build before the patch which is insane

exotic juniper
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Sorry if this has been asked a millions times but, where can i find builds ?

fringe birch
frosty mirage
exotic juniper
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Thanks you guys

ivory otter
#

what does

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"increased abyssal decay duration" do?

brittle atlas
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Increases the duration and therefore total damage of abyssal decay applied by the skill abyssal echoes

ivory otter
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ah okey. so its for vk. thanks 😄

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never played vk so i have no idea of the names of vk skills haha

knotty merlin
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The tooltip damage generally seems accurate (which is great!) -- but with Ingvars's head and disintegrate I'm not sure if the 'spell critical damage' is accurate. Related question, is general crit also considered 'spell crit' for the same case with disintegrate? Because I add crit and it doesn't change the tooltip.

balmy current
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Crit multi won't affect Disintegrate, just crit chance.

knotty merlin
balmy current
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!bug

ripe brookBOT
cunning sleet
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any update on a multiplayer release date yet? is it sapposed to be coming in 8.9?

brittle atlas
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Almost certainly not in 0.8.4

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My guess would be february or march

sleek cypress
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anyone else got those items they're just afraid to craft on xd

acoustic thicket
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can’t wait for item fracturing to go away

opaque quest
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🤔 How balanced are the various end-game builds? I'm not sure if I just have a bad build but my summoner feels a lot worse than devouring orb

knotty hinge
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They can definitely vary.

balmy current
opaque quest
frosty mirage
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Necro has a few strong builds, I’d say it is closer to middle of the pack. I really enjoy necro and it does have a lot of build variety that work well

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Bottom of the barrel I’d probably argue would be DoT Lich, Druid (0.8.4 fixes that), Shaman for high end monos and build variety

sleek cypress
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have they thought about what if someone just makes a trade discord to serve as a more efficient bazaar. or are they already aware of that possibiliity

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kind of like what happened with harvest crafts

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i bet theyve thought about it but i wonder how it can be counter acted

fierce kraken
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Well as far as we know the only way to trade is via the random Bazar and being in the party when the item drops.

brave ibex
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Yeah I don't think they're necessarily allowing direct trades

fierce kraken
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That being said I think having a short list of people (5-10) who you can trade with but that you need to wait 3 months to change or however long a cycle is.

sleek cypress
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What if you join multi player and just drop trade lol

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... 🤷‍♂️

timber agate
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you can't, the plan is you can only trade item dropped when you play together

fierce kraken
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Loot will be instanced so you won't even see anyone else's items.

sleek cypress
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Nice

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Thanks

minor vigil
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does corruption make certain echo rewards more likely

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like exalted/unique stuff

brittle atlas
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It certainly feels that way, but idk if anyone has looked into it

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maybe @fringe birch ?

random dock
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it does

minor vigil
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oooh

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missed that thanks

random dock
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np 🙂 thats why the game guide is your best friend 😎

minor vigil
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i need to press g more often

random dock
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also the blue tags on skills and the ALT button when hovering over a skill and its nodes

minor vigil
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oh i probably should unlock empowereds before target farming

minor vigil
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hm so basically my goal is to like push out as far as possible to try and get vessels of chaos

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and the reward refresh one which i have never seen

fierce kraken
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usually i push until i see a shade node with 12-14 corruption. If you find those then they are potentially worth saving after you have uncovered more of the web. Focus on beacons if you do find one so you can reroll more nodes.

minor vigil
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Gotcha

brittle atlas
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I'd definitely just focus shades until 200 corruption

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to help with farming out blessings

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if your build can easily push further there's not much cost to pushing up to like 300-400

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beyond that you'll probably start to lose some efficiency

meager halo
#

Yolo wondering if someone knows how to fix the skill point quest in A Study in Time
Side Quest
→ The Outcast Camp

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Can't get past the door killed the captured souls a long time ago but i didn't get the completion for the quest bcuz i'm missing that one skill point i'm level 80

dense remnant
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go through ruins of welryn

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if you look at the map thats what connects to library, not the underground bit

minor vigil
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is it just me or are chapter 9 enemies 15x worse than anything else

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in echoes

brittle atlas
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a couple types of them yeah

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idk about 15x worse, but there's definitely a few of them that are noticeably stronger than other mob types

minor vigil
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diamond matrons in particular lol

broken pagoda
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guys havent been around for some time i saw some awesome teaser of 0.84 update is there any clue of when its coming out?

broken pagoda
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very soon then thats amazing

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thanks

regal osprey
#

Can somebody explain to me the abyssal echoes "impair the weak" node that does 5% of abyssal echo damage, or what it would have done over it's duration?

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On hit*

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Doesn't abyssal echoes already do damage on hit?

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like it consumes the dot on the hit and does the full damage

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so why would anybody take this node

snow spruce
sick yacht
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Is the release window for mp still "2021" or has that been delayed? Seems kind of glossed over in the monthly posts

jovial leaf
#

Hello there! Please, can anybody explain me how work various increased damage sources? Example, skill Lightning blast. I can increase damage two ways(except flat damage and other ways): increased spell and lightning damage. Will these two different sources be multiplied between each other and base damage, or will both first summed up and then multiply base damage? I tried running tests on a dummy, but unfortunately the odd numbers made it difficult for me to understand how this mechanic works.

knotty hinge
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!multiplayer

ripe brookBOT
neon geyser
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This is mentioned in the game guide also - press "g" ingame

jovial leaf
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I know about mechanic more damage. Only need explain how synergize increased damage is various sources.

jovial leaf
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They use very incomprehensible examples.

neon geyser
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so did my first sentence explain it for you?

jovial leaf
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Yes, very thanks for that.

neon geyser
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ok 😁

jovial leaf
#

500% spell damage + 500% lightning damage = 1000% increased damage for lightning spell, right?

neon geyser
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yes

jovial leaf
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Very appreciate.

balmy current
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Assuming you have no more duration increase than the 2 points in Turbulence (30% -> 7.8s duration), you'd need to score 20 hits within that 7.8s to do the "full" damage of Abyssal Echoes (2.56 hits/sec).

low totem
#

I like spears, are there any abilities that really benefit from them, or actually have nodes that do stuff while wielding them them, outside of Javelin and Lunge?

iron thistle
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Serpent Strike on Primalist.

tranquil vector
#

hey guys, I have a question about the loot filter: from the build planner there is the rule for shattering items: one t5 affix. I want to add to the rule a number of at least 12 affixes on the item to show. Unfortunately, this is not working properly for me. I tested with an item with level 13 of affixes, which shows up, without the rule of levels and do not show up any more with a rule of more or equal to 10. Do you guys have the same issue, or know a solution for my problem?

knotty hinge
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Dm me the filter with your attempt and I’ll take a look.

supple wolf
#

Has it been said if you will have to level through the story each time for whatever their version of seasons/leagues will be?

knotty hinge
supple wolf
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maybe something to ask the devs then

knotty hinge
#

It's a question worth asking but potentially one they don't have an answer to yet.

supple wolf
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I'd be ok even it were a "not sure yet" kind of thing. My least favorite thing about POE is having to level through the campaign every time and I enjoyed having rifts as an option to level each season on the D3 side of things

random dock
#

I just read that and big if true cause the map layout for dungeons is gonna be random

and its looks to be a lvling/endgame system 👁️👄👁️

drowsy phoenix
#

Hello!
Does Death Seal's damage reduction increase if your health falls for any reason DURING Death Seal?
Or is the damage reduction snapshotted at the moment of activation?

brittle atlas
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I have a feeling it snapshots but it’s not something I ever bothered to test honestly

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Maybe @zinc sinew knows?

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I generally assumed it was always 32.5% DR for the sake of figuring out EHP

drowsy phoenix
#

Thank you! I was wondering about EHP too, and I realize I always just assumed Death Seal's DR floats

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was going to start calculating integrals before I realized it might not be

drowsy phoenix
#

I tried some non-rigorous tests using Marrow Shard to drop HP, and it does seem to snapshot

fierce kraken
dense remnant
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i think they mean they were using marrow shards so they could have control over their health

languid elbow
#

Has Act 10 been confirmed for 0.8.4?

balmy current
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No, just the Druid/forms reworks, Dungeons, Legendaries & Eternity Caches.

languid elbow
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Aw okay. I'm really excited for the story continuation. All that stuff sounds great though :)

drowsy phoenix
#

Death Seal seems to provide no DR despite me being at ~<50% HP when used at max health

tawny rain
#

What's the ETA of 0.8.4?

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Waiting to reroll and restart the game with the new druid revamp

languid elbow
vale holly
#

How can I get to The Corrupted Lake? I'm 70 and still haven't done this quest

timber agate
#

there's a time rift in imperial era's risen lake

vale holly
#

Tyty

rocky fable
#

So I beat Fall of the Outcasts and I got a choice between Level 62 or Level 66 timeline?

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Which one is The Black Sun timeline?

timber agate
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66

rocky fable
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thank you

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I just looekd it up

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I would say it'd be better if they just tell you what timeline your selecting

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Since I want to Farm Black Sun for a specific unique

balmy current
rocky fable
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Only if they've been unlocked

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@balmy current

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It shows the levels of the two I unlocked but not the one to the top left

balmy current
#

Ah, fair enough.

frosty mirage
#

For Vengeance and Riposte, does riposte occur whenever an enemy hits you within that 2 second window?

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It's hard to confirm/tell in testing and since dummy does not attack, no controlled testing available

balmy current
frosty mirage
#

Thanks Llama!

rugged grotto
#

any way to skip the story and start with a new pj at the end of the game?

rugged grotto
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xd ok

regal osprey
#

I have a question, does having higher adaptive spell damage influence healing from, for example, consecrated ground?

marsh maple
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No it does not @regal osprey

regal osprey
#

I have another question now: In sentinal tree, there is a node at the end that says increases damage when welding scepter/mace. Does this damage increase include damage from spells and DoTs, or only weapon hit damage?

regal osprey
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@marsh maple

marsh maple
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Since it does not specify it will apply to all damage you deal while wielding a scepter or mace

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Except Mike

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Except minions

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Mike too I guess

regal osprey
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@marsh maple I see, thanks. I'm having trouble deciding on whether I want to take scepter or sword. Currently using sword and it has some advantages. Faster ignite stacking, faster mana generation, and slightly more survivability I suppose too because you are getting more health per hit due to faster attack speed

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If the adaptive spell damage affix scaled then sword would win.

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But that affix provides so little adaptive spell damage

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my character is hybrid caster and melee. I use rive to stack ignites and also use judgement off cooldown as well as fire abyssal echoes

cloud lichen
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Hello. How can I disable gamepads permanently so that they are not constantly reactivated when a button is pressed? Thank you

fierce kraken
cloud lichen
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i need to disable the auto-detection

dense remnant
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unplug your controller ;D

fierce kraken
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you could try unbinding the keys.

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why can't you leave your controller alone? i know i just leave it plugged in but i almost always play with mouse and keyboard

regal osprey
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Why is abyssal echoes skill descriptions so janky?

  1. For the nether coat buff (embrace the darkness node) it says a prerequisite is "Directly casting", but I can still get the buff If I use abyssal echoes using void cleave.

  2. For the node that makes you have a chance to do void rift from devouring orb (nether breach), it says "directly casting", but I cannot get void rift activation if I am using the Screaming Rifts node, even during initial cast of the abyssal echoes it does not activate the devouring orbs rifts, taking away screaming rifts makes it activate again. Meanwhile, I DO get nether coat when I use abyssal echoes using screaming rift eventhough that node has the same pre-requisite of needing "Directly casting".

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It doesn't make any sense

fierce kraken
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those sound like bugs

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!bug

ripe brookBOT
primal lichen
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I'm sure this has been asked a million times, but I just got the game and I am wondering if Skeleton Vanguards from the Bone Curse tree get any of the multiplicative bonuses from the Summon Skeleton tree?

tranquil kindle
primal lichen
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thanks!

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another question: Is there a visual indicator for blood infusion?

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I'm trying a build with a bunch of melee minions and blood splatter + blood infusion buff, but I am paranoid that it isn't actually buffing my minions at all

tranquil kindle
rocky fable
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Does lunge scale off of Healing Effectiveness with the Dawn Charge node?

frosty mirage
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Nope

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Notice it’s labeled as a regain and not a heal, they cleaned up a lot of the skill syntax in 0.8.3 to try and clear up confusion on what counts as a heal or not

static glacier
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guess the wording is really fine now : if the verb isnt "heal" it is no heal

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same goes for life decay and life drain e.g.

narrow compass
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hi everyone, I just started, and I was wondering if it's normal to see a certain area around me where the graphics are better and at a certain distance outside the area the graphics are less beautiful. Like I have a sync problem

fierce kraken
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That sounds like it's worth posting about in technical support.

regal osprey
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I have a question about beastmaster summons. I noticed that Bear summon in particular can get swipe and ice thorn activation as retaliation. Are swipe and ice thorns affected by my passive swipe and ice thorns tree?

brave ibex
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Nope, minions use a different version

regal osprey
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Wait a second, frost nova damage from sabertooth pet scales with character strength and not attunement?? Or does it mean pet strength?

brittle atlas
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pets can't have strength

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the sabertooth skill scales off of your strength, so your strength will scale every aspect of it, including subskills like the frost nova

regal osprey
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If I get the absolute zero node in the tempest tree, will all of my attacks be affected by spell damage modifiers? Or how does it work?

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+spell crit etc.

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Sorry tempest strike

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absolute zero is the right-most node, it says tempest ow does spell cold damage

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It's odd because it looks still like a melee attack and not a spell

brittle atlas
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No, Tempest Strike has four base components- the melee attack, and three spells: earth spikes, northern winds, and lightning bolt

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that node adds cold damage to the spell components

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but makes two of them- lightning bolt and earth spikes- less likely to happen

regal osprey
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Oh wow

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?So the spell damage will not be added if it doesn't proc

brittle atlas
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Yeah, the spell damage only applies to the spell components

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the melee hit is an attack, not a spell

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so if a spell doesn't proc there's no spell to add damage to

regal osprey
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@brittle atlas Does the attunement and strength scaling apply to bot the sepll and the melee compotenets?

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Or atunement only for spell?

brittle atlas
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Both should apply

regal osprey
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Absolute zero's description is so janked.

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Look at that description and see how misleading it is.

brittle atlas
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the wording is technically correct, but is definitely going to be unclear to anyone who doesn't know the way the game uses certain words

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Tempest Strike here is the entire skill

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so all components of it that can deal spell damage will get additional spell cold damage and have a chance to freeze

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or rather, all of components of it that deal spell damage and hit

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since I believe two of the components you can add to it via nodes are damage over time

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and thus don't hit

regal osprey
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It makes sense now that you explain it. But I was initially thinking that the melee hits without procs would somehow start doing spell damage

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because supposedly the melee hits are also tempest strike hits

manic narwhal
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With Wandering Spirits, is Soul of Filth (10/20% more frequent use of Spectral Putrescence) multiplicative or additive with the base Spectral Putrescence chance (30%)?

tranquil kindle
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multiplicative

manic narwhal
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Thanks. I find it hard to judge the value of the nodes on Wandering Spirit because of the nature of the spell.

frosty mirage
raw stirrup
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How easy is rerolling? I've always loved trying different builds in arpgs, but leveling new characters is usually boring imo.

brave ibex
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Very fast when you know what you're doing, but you do have to go through the campaign again

minor vigil
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worst part is acts 1-3

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after that it's pretty smooth

frosty mirage
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It’s not too bad, the early levels before masteries are probably the worst IMO, but you learn the peaks and valleys of the leveling process. You can technically do monos as soon as you hit level End of Time

If I were to not level my alts with the builds I have in mind and was focused purely on speed I can get a character up to 60 in about 7-8 hours

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And that’s running the campaign up to chapter 9

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I usually go straight to monos after 8 though

minor vigil
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i think act 6 feels a little slow also but like you have your cool skills by that point so it's easy

surreal iron
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is it worth doing mono's asap? My first char just got to chap 9

dense remnant
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i usually start monos around lvl 35~

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the sweet spot normally feels like its just before the admiral+spymaster fight

frosty mirage
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You unlock idols and passive points along the way, so you’ll eventually want to go back if hitting a monos earlier but it’s honestly just personal preference

surreal iron
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ah

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i see

dense remnant
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i mean, objectively you want to go into monos before end of campaign, if you're talking about going fast

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(which is what id apply to it being worthwhile or not to)

surreal iron
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i think i have all the idol slots unlocked - and act 9 is starting to feel very ouchie

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so farming monos is the way to get better gear to beat a9 then?

frosty mirage
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That’s what I typically do

surreal iron
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nice, tyvm

dense remnant
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its also slightly class dependant on when the best point to start monos is

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sentinel wants to go in as early as it possibly can (while still effectively clearing the monos), because once your a higher level you can just shield rush through all the campaign levels

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and you zoom through the campaign stupidly quickly that way

brittle atlas
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I personally just ignore monos until I finish campaign tbh, but I've got the campaign and leveling down pretty well now

frosty mirage
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I love the campaign, I just know 9 can be a bit of a wall for new players

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As there is a bit of a difficulty spike, but dang is it fun

brittle atlas
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ye, really depends on build

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a lot of the stuff I've leveled recently just cuts through A9 tho

frosty mirage
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You’re also one of the best players in the community mate 😂😂

brittle atlas
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idk, I think just about anyone could walk through A9 with devouring orb right now

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skill is cracked in the mid game

minor vigil
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the only annoying leveling ive had is with lich

brittle atlas
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I haven't yet leveled an acolyte since the patch came out

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since I already had necro and lich at 100 to respec

minor vigil
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it felt like i wasn't playing the game before death seal

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but i was certainly building it wrong

brittle atlas
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yeah, a lot of lich's power is in death seal

minor vigil
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i ended up doing ok w/ spirit plague but it was still a little awkward

frosty mirage
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Sentinel was fine, so was rogue with ch9 straight after 8 (it was pally/bd), my shield throw FG is struggle bussing right now but that’s more from intentional sabotage than anything and not wanting to use forge strike 😂

minor vigil
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sentinel and rogue were sooo smooth for me too

brittle atlas
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sorc was super good for me as well

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will have to see how primalist feels after the upcoming patch

vast charm
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Overhauled Primalist GO!

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Make me hope they fixed up skills that felt lacking for other classes too.

vagrant coyote
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hello, do we need to start the 0.8.4 Patch with new char?

vagrant coyote
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very good thx 🙂

tribal coyote
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hey there! a couple days ago I reached the echoes and started grinding the timelines but everything seems pretty easy

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got there at level 56, and starter with the 58 timeline, then changed to the 66 at level 60 and still pretty easy

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right now I'm 69 (nice) and still in the 66 timeline but it seems pretty easy to grind :/

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died just once when I decided to body tank a colosus 😂

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am I doing something wrong? just a Bladedancer with all in Flurry :/

brittle atlas
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If you're playing a decently built character then everything up to empowered monoliths will be pretty easy, and depending on the build it could make the first few hundred corruption in empowered content pretty easy too

tribal coyote
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and grinding Uniques til I can get to the next timeline

tribal coyote
brittle atlas
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normal monoliths don't put much pressure on you to have defenses built out or that much damage output

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empowered monoliths you unlock after you complete the three level 90 timelines

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in empowered, all timelines are level 100

tribal coyote
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yeah, I also tried having good defenses, this game makes a good job explining how the go

brittle atlas
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and have uncapped corruption, so you can push that up to further increase difficulty and rewards

tribal coyote
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had a hard time grasping that in other games... ehem PoE ehem

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nice, thank you so much @brittle atlas !

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I'll get there and reset when the new patch drops

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it looks amazing and seems a good moment to change to another SSF toon

regal osprey
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wait a second... shards and stuff are not shared across characters in an account anymore? When did this happen?

jovial leaf
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Why did you come to this conclusion? Everything remains the same.

minor vigil
regal osprey
minor vigil
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Yea that's what solo does

regal osprey
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is there any way to go back and make my character non-solo?

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nvm found it

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I have a question: Does the Eye of the storm node in Maelstorm also affect tsunami damage?

brittle atlas
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the damage aspect should, idk about the area

static glacier
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Does tsunami have a "range/area"?

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usually every subskill inherts everything from the parent skill tree if it "matches"

light kite
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ayo what is this game about?

regal osprey
jovial leaf
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Anybody know how work taunt, exclude main mechanic? Taunt give us more damage to taunted enemies or something?

balmy current
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No, it just forces affected mobs to attack whatever it was that did the taunt

frosty mirage
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It is also primarily via proximity when the taunt is applied, they needed the strength of taunt in 0.8.3 but it’s still really good

raw stirrup
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Anyone playing on linux? I seem to have some stuttering, should i use proton instead?

frosty mirage
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There’s a forum user who is very knowledgeable about Linux and LE, not sure he’s on discord or not

rocky fable
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Is it me or is Lagon's hitbox a little scuffed as a melee user?

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I mean I FEEL i hit him he's fatter than Kayne West's ego

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But game be like no

iron thistle
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That's something they said they're trying to work on, since technically his model is below the platform you're standing on.

rocky fable
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I see it isn't just me

minor vigil
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And you can't target him with smite on controller

rocky fable
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By that you mean you simply can't

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And even if I could i'm too lazy to find the perfect pixel which lets me lunge

rocky fable
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If i were to cast a Cold Spell but not directly like it's casted through another skill or ability would this still proc?

marsh maple
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it has to be casted directly

rugged grotto
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a minion build that doesn't depend on legendaries?

brittle atlas
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most of them? I think most minion builds are just getting some extra value out of certain uniques, rather than requiring them to function?

rocky fable
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but thank you

brittle atlas
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I think the word "use" generally implies direct casting in LE?

rugged grotto
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ok

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So which build of minions is good at the moment?

brittle atlas
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I think epoch builds put out a video on abom necro recently

rugged grotto
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Sorry for bothering, I don't understand much English and I use pages to translate, so it tells me to find builds

brittle atlas
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also a beastmaster wolf build

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ah

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Projectile Abomination Necro, 400+ Corruption With Good Clear, Last Epoch Build Guide Patch 8.3

Finally after 2 weeks of planning and 1 week of gameplay, this build is finally done.

Timestamps :
00:00 - Intro
03:52 - PLEASE WATCH IMPORTANT INFO
09:02 - Assemble Abomination
13:56 - Dread Shade
17:09 - Skeletal Mage + Summon Skeleton
21:05 - I...

▶ Play video
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this one

rugged grotto
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ok

eternal acorn
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Just starting the game, can anyone recommend a fun build that is melee - has high mobility and attacks fast? Something around that playstyle

cloud kindle
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Make your own, the game is very forgiving!

brittle atlas
eternal acorn
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Ill check it out ty

lyric oyster
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Does the echo casts from Void Knight cost me mana when it triggers?

frosty mirage
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Is it expected that the Shurikens from Shift’s Sleight of Hand node do not proc Shadow's shurikens?

I know the writing on it is a bit more ambiguous compared to Dancing Shadows. So I can understand if it doesn’t affect it as it could be intended as an implicit cast

jovial leaf
lyric oyster
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Yeah, that's the one. Just wanted to make sure since triggered casts used mana. Thanks!

frosty prism
# frosty mirage Is it expected that the Shurikens from Shift’s Sleight of Hand node do not proc ...

Yeah shift is a prime example of inconsistency on the proc'd skills as the behaviour of shurikens, cascade and acid flask. It effectively will just cast shurikens X shurikens and take some of the modifiers of the shuriken tree. Things that add additional shurikens won't count nor will it consume shadows for additional casts but it'll take on blade shirked, chakrams and all dmg nodes. The wording could definitely be better.

restive cradle
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is anything wrong with my filter or am i just unlucky?

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like i want to hide every under 75, and who shows level 75+ with those types and affixes

brittle atlas
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level 75 excludes the massive majority of items since the game doesn't have item levels

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I just wouldn't use level filters at all tbh

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and just filter to the affixes you want on the bases you want

restive cradle
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hmmm ok

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ill try that

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thanks!

brittle atlas
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Yeah, you won't see most of the best bases with a level 75 restriction

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even 4x T5 Solarum Greaves for example are only level 74

restive cradle
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so something like this?

brittle atlas
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yeah, and then a hide all rule at the bottom

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this is what my filter looks like for example

restive cradle
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is there a quick way to do hide all?

brittle atlas
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yes, make a rule with no conditions set to hide

restive cradle
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ah got it

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thanks

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oh man ❤️ u

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i was like WTF

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how is nothing dropping

brittle atlas
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np

fierce kraken
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Personally I like hide normal/magic/rare so I see set and unique and only need 1 rule.

balmy current
balmy current
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In LE, item level = required character level

marsh maple
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Let's be real llama it's not really free...you pay with your heart and soul. Every time a Void Knight is created ingame another forge guard is lost without a family...pay 6 easy payments of 16 orians eyes to save your local forge guard today, and maybe one day his rework will be reverted..... 😢

frosty mirage
brittle atlas
crisp swan
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Hello community, ive done my fair share of googling now, did not find any answers though. Does anyone else have problems starting the game in Ubuntu ?

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I just get a black screen, sometimes a splash-screen, computer freezes for like 1 minute. Then the game closes

split helm
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How long does it generally take to farm gear for an end-game build? I ask because so far I haven't found a single piece of gear that has >2 useful mods on it - I don't know if this gets better once you start pushing high-tier empowered corruptions or not. At best, I've either been finding items with 1 useful mod at T4+ and 3 blank/useless ones, or items with 2 useful mods, but with both at like T1/T2.

brittle atlas
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if you want like perfect exalted gear, I don't think you'll ever really get there. T20 crafted stuff it depends on the slot, but a lot of that is just a matter of playing enough to find a decent base that's like T8 or so total with 2-3 mods you want and crafting it up.

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T20 belts and boots are pretty easy since their overall mod pool is pretty small

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something like a ring is going to be a lot harder

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a lot of slots you don't really need T20 gear in to do fine

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like a relic can have a T1 frailty chance roll and still be decent

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you could have a lower chill chance or slow chance roll on a weapon and be fine

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even on like...belt, boots, gloves you could settle for T3 hybrid health and not be losing that much

iron thistle
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+skills, flat health, resists, and damage rolls on weapons really benefit from being higher tiers. The rest is often fine at t3 or t4.

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At least until you get to the point where you're fine-tuning in high corruption empowered content.

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There are obviously exceptions, but they're circumstantial and build reliant.

eternal acorn
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I just swapped all my skills on my old level 50 VK and they are all level 6. Is there a recommended area to go level the skills up? Because trying to do my current level story with level 6 skills is no bueno

midnight timber
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go do low level monos, if you've unlocked the end of time

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first one is lvl 58, shouldn't be too bad, and your skills will level up fast to where they were

iron thistle
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After you reset them, they gain bonus XP for a bit, so they'll catch back up to where you had them pretty quickly. Maybe even just going through some story zones.

vestal yew
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hello! can mark of death take enemy resistances into negative value ?

frosty mirage
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It should be able to, I do not believe enemies naturally have any resistances outside of general damage reduction unless they get a modifier in monos that applies resistance to enemies

west fox
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Hey everyone, I just started playing and I'm trying to figure out a vague starting character build. I was considering playing a Sentinel and focusing on polearms, but I'm starting to doubt that after looking at the passives and skills for the class.

I'm seeing a lot of bonuses for other weapon types (swords, axes, etc) but so far I've only noticed one bonus for polearms (on the Javelin skill). Is that not actually a big deal or is that a sign that polearms are a bad choice for Sentinel unless I want to focus on Javelin?

amber rain
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Polearms will get reworked next patch on dec 10th, but at the moment they are mainly used on builds where you want the high flat crit chance on a 2h weapon and don't need any other weapon specific nodes

brittle atlas
acoustic thicket
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In theory is it possible to get just enough resistance of all kinds to not get one shot on the same set of gear? Or will it have to be different sets/pieces for different monoliths?

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So meaning a frost resist set, fire, etc etc

brittle atlas
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You can cap all of your resistances with relatively minor resistances on gear

acoustic thicket
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I’ve saved up a bunch of gear which have high amounts of resist but their stats are no good for me, but thought save them for shattering and use their resistances on my gear

brittle atlas
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I generally put a single resist on each ring and then get the rest from implicits, blessings, passives

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Would recommend this video

acoustic thicket
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Thanks a bunch 👍 will check it out

brittle atlas
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Generally the goal is avoid resistances as affixes on your gear as much as possible

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Since they share suffix slots with health

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So you want to get resistances in ways that don’t use suffix slots

acoustic thicket
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Ah interesting was not aware of this

west fox
strange blaze
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What are some good builds for clearing enemies in easier monoliths using just movement skills? I've looked at nova+teleport sorcerer and shadow cascade+shift blade dancer, but I'm curious what else is out there. Is reap+transplant viable for clearing easy stuff on a lich?

brave ibex
west fox
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Got it, thanks. I was unsure of how valuable flat crit chance is in this game, how well it synergizes with Sentinel stuff, how important the unavailable skills / upgrades are, etc.

brittle atlas
strange blaze
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I tried devouring orb a little bit, but the stutter-steps from autocasting it felt too awkward to me

brittle atlas
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Yeah I definitely wouldn’t autocast it

strange blaze
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spirit plague looks fun, but i'm hesitating to try it on a lich because i imagine it's going to be a core skill for warlocks whenever they come out

brittle atlas
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I don’t know if we have much info on warlocks yet and I doubt we get them anytime soon

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Like probably 7+ months would be absolute minimum guess

brave ibex
dark storm
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Is spirit plague good in itself to be a good DPS skill for end game?

marsh maple
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I like this version a lot

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if you don't want to push that high of corruption its insane

brittle atlas
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yeah, anything 300-ish and under it cuts through like butter

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the boss damage isn't amazing, but it does echoes super quick

unkempt sand
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Is there a reason the imperial spymaster wears a shai-halud skinsuit

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also, why does the empire have an industrial slaughterhouse full of sandworms

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and what is the spymaster doing there when he could be doing his job in the field or in an actual office

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It's a cool area and bossfight and all but it's a little out of left field

fierce kraken
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Very good questions coming from an appropriately named account.

brittle atlas
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he's spying on you obviously

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inside of a worm

fierce kraken
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Why doesn't spy master zerrick recognize us?

brittle atlas
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maybe he does and just doesn't to let us know he recognizes us

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he's a spymaster afterall, h'es like...200 steps ahead

dark storm
marsh maple
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thanks @dark storm

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more are always coming

iron thistle
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The current story we have available is missing a lot of the middle parts that lead the later chapters to become the early chapters, so I imagine we'll fill in that part of the loop by the end.

vestal yew
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hello, does the volatile blood passive from Lich affect the health decay while in reaper form? (does it slow it down?)

static glacier
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Reduced Health Drain 5% per point

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wording is quite accurate here

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reaper form is decay

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so no it doesnt work cause a decay is no drain (like a leech is no heal)

soft prairie
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Guy/gals, how long should I grind certain monoliths, should I get to the next one when I finish the 3rd quest or continue on the same one and reset echoes?

frosty mirage
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I’d say move on and try to get to empowered. The modifiers on empowered are a lot stronger in terms of rarity drops and some boss only uniques also require empowered timelines for them to drop

soft prairie
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Alright, thanks, so I shouldn't spend much time and stressing about missing echoes and whatnot, got it.

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Still lvl 70, long time before I get the winter bow at 90

frosty mirage
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You don’t have to be the same level as the timeline in order to advance, those levels are just zone levels, you typically can unlock the 90 monos around level 80. Some can get there faster, others slower. Just depends on how much refining a build needs as they make their way to it

soft prairie
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Yeah, still trying to learn the itemization, I mean, I'm following a build, but new game, new stats and whatnot.

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Still trying to learn what's a priority when itemizing

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Lots of stats to look at, especially all the elemental damage and crit chance/multipliers.

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Also flat ele dmg/phys etc.

obsidian spire
soft prairie
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70 marksman here with just about 1k lmao

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is Bronze Belt BiS base?

frosty mirage
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In general you’ll see a lot of builds use the same bases for gloves/belts/boots. This is because the implicits on these items are not extremely varied. So bronze belt gives you 4 potion slots and additional armor which is added ehp/defense with 0 cost. The same with the Engraved Gauntlets and their endurance implicit.

Where these items lose in variety in base types, they make up for with variety in uniques. You’ll see that alt here are a LOT of unique belts/boots/gloves. These slots are nice as it allows you to enhance your build without sacrificing some of the most important gear slots that have the affixes that will have a high impact on your build (like torso, helms, and relics do)

static glacier
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you can be quite sure that all old base types get overhauled in the next patches

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every of the last patches gave love to 1 or 2 base types

frosty mirage
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Would love to see it, but those seem to be primarily weapon bases that are getting the largest overhauls. Boots were touched in 0.8.3 but only for the movement speed changes and lower level changes, nothing truly overhauled about it in my opinion

I would absolutely love to see belts get overhauled. Boots had an opportunity last patch but didn’t see anything substantial.

balmy current
lavish dew
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Anyone tried flat fire bow cinder strike yet ?

brave ibex
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Cinder Strike is really just a 'fine' skill, both the hit and ignite variants are good early on but fall off damage wise late game because of a lack of multipliers. You can still make it work though if you enjoy the ability

lavish dew
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Empowered is what i'm worried bout

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looks like it may be weak and aoe won't be great either

brave ibex
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Well, you can still kill stuff, especially with Marksman's easy access to crit vuln + armor shred. But it's not gonna be fast, especially if you wanna push corruption