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warped dew Oct 2, 2021, 11:29 PM

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i got the boots literally on the first kill

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funny thing about this is that it seems that I get bosses most rares uniques on the first kills

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but somehow I can't get a fucking dreamthorn nor smoke weaver

warped dew Oct 3, 2021, 12:15 AM

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off for today good night lads

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 12:16 AM

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Goodnight mate

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Sleep tight

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Dream of builds crafting

warped dew Oct 3, 2021, 12:17 AM

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Imma dream about 2 perfect daggers

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and Omnis

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 12:17 AM

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Haha yes that too

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Whats that omnis?

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Haha sweet daggers dreams mate

warped dew Oct 3, 2021, 12:18 AM

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Omnis is an unique amulet only dropped by Orobyss, it's very rare, and it has the right to be super rare, it gives +1 level to skills and 1-45% in all resistance

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 12:21 AM

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Ohh nice ^^

woeful parcel Oct 3, 2021, 12:23 AM

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warped dew Omnis is an unique amulet only dropped by Orobyss, it's very rare, and it has th...

Sounds beautiful

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I'll dream you get all three yup

lone flume Oct 3, 2021, 6:03 AM

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if you have more stability when fighting a boss is that an advantage?

brittle atlas Oct 3, 2021, 6:04 AM

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No

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No difference, you can just store up to two rounds of quest echoes worth of stability

lone flume Oct 3, 2021, 6:05 AM

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brittle atlas No difference, you can just store up to two rounds of quest echoes worth of stab...

I see you are doing 600+ corruption without skellies. Is that another build?

brittle atlas Oct 3, 2021, 6:05 AM

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That was poison lich last patch

lone flume Oct 3, 2021, 6:05 AM

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ah before WS nerf

brittle atlas Oct 3, 2021, 6:05 AM

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Similar clear at that corruption but much better single target

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Yeah

lone flume Oct 3, 2021, 6:06 AM

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how is it in this patch?

brittle atlas Oct 3, 2021, 6:06 AM

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Not good

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Compared to last patch that setup does about 98% less damage

lone flume Oct 3, 2021, 6:06 AM

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with that build you didn't need Drain Life for single target. I see

brittle atlas Oct 3, 2021, 6:07 AM

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Yeah, wandering spirits did all of the single target via applying poison stacks

lone flume Oct 3, 2021, 6:07 AM

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yes now they only good for armor/necrotic shread. Sad

north lodge Oct 3, 2021, 7:27 AM

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does the community still do weekend fresh character competition things?

static glacier Oct 3, 2021, 10:42 AM

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German community has some kind of race Events like once a month

limpid geyser Oct 3, 2021, 11:00 AM

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Am I doing it correctly in selling all the gear I dont need or is there a crafting system like in diablo and I can "scrap" them?

static glacier Oct 3, 2021, 11:04 AM

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You can shatter gear with affixes you want for crafting

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Dont pick up anything else... gold value for selling gear is basicly 0

limpid geyser Oct 3, 2021, 11:06 AM

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👍

warped dew Oct 3, 2021, 11:27 AM

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Gamble an item for 11k > sell it for 500 gold lmao

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 11:33 AM

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guys is it just me or monsters in arena like echos dont drop anything other than shards/potions and gold?

static glacier Oct 3, 2021, 11:36 AM

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Its like Arena... basicly no loot

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 11:43 AM

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i see whats the point of arena then?

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to flex?

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xD

warped dew Oct 3, 2021, 11:50 AM

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for now ye

static glacier Oct 3, 2021, 11:55 AM

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Arena is totaly pointless if you are not intersted in the endless scalling just as a benchmark

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 11:57 AM

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i see thanks

balmy current Oct 3, 2021, 12:00 PM

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warped dew Gamble an item for 11k > sell it for 500 gold lmao

The house always wins

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 12:19 PM

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the only time i used the gamble was to make damage > mana crown

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can the gamble really give good items?

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can it roll exalted?

warped dew Oct 3, 2021, 12:32 PM

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No

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you gamble for good rolled base

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Other than that it's garbage

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 12:43 PM

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i see thanks

radiant shadow Oct 3, 2021, 1:25 PM

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is there a way to get rid of that one block at the very center of the Idol inventory?

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i don't think i missed a quest or anything

warped dew Oct 3, 2021, 1:26 PM

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nope

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its just there

radiant shadow Oct 3, 2021, 1:26 PM

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death

warped dew Oct 3, 2021, 1:27 PM

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idk why tho

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maybe to avoid abusing idols buffs

radiant shadow Oct 3, 2021, 1:32 PM

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stare

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yeah 1 idol is gonna make a huge difference innit

iron thistle Oct 3, 2021, 1:32 PM

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The idol slots used to just be a square grid, but I think they went this route to force some variance in which kinds of idols people used instead of just stacking 4-5 huge ones.

warped dew Oct 3, 2021, 1:35 PM

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^

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if the middle slot was available you could just put fucking 4 slots idols everywhere and get the best of it

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but since it's locked you have to make some kind of management

frosty mirage Oct 3, 2021, 2:13 PM

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Yupp, people were just slapping the 4 x 1 slots into every slot and calling it a day from what I have seen on deprecated builds

static glacier Oct 3, 2021, 2:22 PM

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Well it was 4 slots less than today (16 vs 20) but allowed 4×1×4 .. builds that used 4×2×2 were actually buffed and most 2×2 idols got nerfed cause of this 👀

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 2:24 PM

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knowing that nothing can drop on the mini arena echos makes them really boring.. im like standing in the middle firing arrows all around hoping it would finally end ..

warped dew Oct 3, 2021, 2:26 PM

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then dont do arena

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 2:27 PM

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its not arena

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its in the cho

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echo

frosty mirage Oct 3, 2021, 2:28 PM

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I like them, helps break up the usual "rush to objective" maps that monos typically are

warped dew Oct 3, 2021, 2:31 PM

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oh

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yeah i find them boring as well

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 2:32 PM

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frosty mirage I like them, helps break up the usual "rush to objective" maps that monos typica...

i like their concept but the fact that theres no loot makes it ... meh boring nothing youd or can expect for or surprise you

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i think they should make them drop 1 item when they end either set or unique or exalted all random 1 random item

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to make some hype for them

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or only put them on echos that their reward is unique/set / exalted

warped dew Oct 3, 2021, 2:35 PM

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mh nah

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the RNG factor of it wouldn't be RNG anymore

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because there's a lot of arenas in the web

frosty mirage Oct 3, 2021, 2:37 PM

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I honestly just follow paths with rewards that I want 😂

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 2:37 PM

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yeah same

warped dew Oct 3, 2021, 2:37 PM

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I don't even do that anymore

frosty mirage Oct 3, 2021, 2:37 PM

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Although, all chapter 9 arenas suckkkkkk

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Just Gorgons and Diamond Matrons and Rogues

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 2:39 PM

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in my way of seeing it... is.. im at the item hunting process and part of the game.. why do i do echos? to find items.. i dont care for exp anymore or anything really.. i do echos to find items.. .and then there are these echos that literally drop no items at all and doesnt even ahve a chance to drop them

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so when i enter into 1 of these echos thats a 100% waste of time from my side

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and i just want the echo waves to end so i can move on to the next

warped dew Oct 3, 2021, 6:15 PM

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I'm getting too squishy what could I do to avoid getting OS by trash mobs ?

iron thistle Oct 3, 2021, 6:16 PM

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I ran into the same problem with my BD in my first empowered monolith. Even with 100% glancing blow, it's rough being at like 1500 health.

warped dew Oct 3, 2021, 6:17 PM

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I'm not even at 1k bruh

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Thing is I only like its playstyle

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I tried every other class and it feels so slow

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I'm too used to PoE speedmeta

marsh maple Oct 3, 2021, 6:20 PM

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do you need fast?

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cause we have fast, its just specific

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 6:20 PM

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i just got that body armor that gives void damage per fire aura gives me ideas of some auras stacking

marsh maple Oct 3, 2021, 6:21 PM

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@warped dew do you need fast clear speed or like, movement speed fast? cause theres both

warped dew Oct 3, 2021, 6:21 PM

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Well I need both

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I don't like the slow mechanics of other builds like cast smoke bomb, decoy, swift away to stack bleed, proc shadows with sync strike etc

marsh maple Oct 3, 2021, 6:23 PM

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@warped dew https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3P2SMksqec&t=342s&ab_channel=EpochBuilds I'd start here

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warped dew Oct 3, 2021, 6:24 PM

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But see, you have to cast so much things it bores me more than anything else

marsh maple Oct 3, 2021, 6:24 PM

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I mean thats about as fast as your getting

warped dew Oct 3, 2021, 6:25 PM

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idk maybe last epoch isn't made for me then

marsh maple Oct 3, 2021, 6:26 PM

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I mean

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there is one build that requires just a few buttons

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhip3Zn8f6k&t=8s&ab_channel=PerrythePig @warped dew so this is built for hardcore this version, but you can easily swap some items out to speed it up.

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broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 6:27 PM

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whats stronger normal fire aura flame reave build or fire aura with void % from that unique body armor?

marsh maple Oct 3, 2021, 6:29 PM

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you caught me at the perfect time, Im actually doing Void Flame Aura rn. Its good. Idk if pure aura is better or not yet

warped dew Oct 3, 2021, 6:31 PM

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yeah but then again I don't get why my rogue is so squishy in empowered, ok it's empowered, ok I lack life, but all my res are capped, GB is at more than 100% I shouldn't get fucked this quick

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 6:31 PM

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marsh maple you caught me at the perfect time, Im actually doing Void Flame Aura rn. Its goo...

ohh nice

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do you also add doom to it or stuff like time root etc?

marsh maple Oct 3, 2021, 6:31 PM

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Sadly theres no global chance for time rot, otherwise I would be using it

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I am using doom rings though

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 6:32 PM

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i see hha using flame reave for more aura or mana strike for the arc to benefit from spell damage?

marsh maple Oct 3, 2021, 6:33 PM

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Im using mana strike because im using fractured crown

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which makes it so I take 50% of damage to mana

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 6:33 PM

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yeah make sense i wanted to make build with that too but then i noticed like almost everything in the skill tree is not effecting mana arc as of now probably bug so i moved to next stuff

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that crown could work nice on a high mana glacier crit too

marsh maple Oct 3, 2021, 6:34 PM

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well if you stay tuned the build guide should come out soon eventually. I am in empowereds trying to get void shred

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 6:35 PM

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i mean for most part i enjoy making my own builds hahaha 😄 its just fun

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but you are losing all the ward from spell blade tho

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which could be quite alot on this build

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like kinda passive 2k ward

amber notch Oct 3, 2021, 6:36 PM

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You can go faster but you'll not be as tanky and probably will need to pay more attention to mods

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 6:37 PM

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btw LE im really curious how is FPS with aura build?

marsh maple Oct 3, 2021, 6:37 PM

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Ive found that MoM from fractured crown is more than enough

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FPS?

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completely fine so far

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its just a lot of flashing

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 6:37 PM

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hahah yeah converting it to other elenet reduce abit from the flash

warped dew Oct 3, 2021, 6:37 PM

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well i'm done with LE for now

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 6:37 PM

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so FPS is not destroyed by stacking 20+ fire aura?

marsh maple Oct 3, 2021, 6:40 PM

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nah

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FPS is like fine

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its just more of an eyesore than anything

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 6:41 PM

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also LE what does the bigger part of the damage ? the fire aura (void aura) or the mana strike/arc which used to proc them?

marsh maple Oct 3, 2021, 6:41 PM

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its gonna be your fire aura

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mana strike is just there for void shred and mana

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 6:41 PM

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have you considered going crit on the arc?

marsh maple Oct 3, 2021, 6:41 PM

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I am going full crit

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but I went with no crit multi

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im trying to crit so I proc this

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at least once per second

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 6:42 PM

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ohh yes easy to max crit

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with mana arc/strike

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i think they both get the crit based on mana from celestial right?

marsh maple Oct 3, 2021, 6:42 PM

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I believe so

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its hard to tell sometimes

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so many things happening

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 6:43 PM

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marsh maple

i dont think this really worth it tho.. the 1 second cd is kinda meh

marsh maple Oct 3, 2021, 6:43 PM

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Its sadly one of our only option

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options*

iron thistle Oct 3, 2021, 6:43 PM

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Any thoughts on Mana Strike with Azurral's Fury belt? It's a build idea I've been floating for a little while.

marsh maple Oct 3, 2021, 6:43 PM

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@iron thistle I have plans for that one day

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 6:44 PM

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when going mana and MoM yeah cause no ward.. but the mana> cost ward seesm more appealing

marsh maple Oct 3, 2021, 6:44 PM

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so @broken pagoda we get 50% inc damage per fire aura, so if we potentially get at least like 2-3 fire auras from the idol, it gives us like 150% icreased damage

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 6:45 PM

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marsh maple so <@!499269479038058506> we get 50% inc damage per fire aura, so if we potentia...

i mean true and not true because theres more to scaling than the increase playing cinder strike right now makes me see it clearly

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when you stack 2k increase

marsh maple Oct 3, 2021, 6:45 PM

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Well yeah I agree

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 6:45 PM

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the 150 increase kinda meh

marsh maple Oct 3, 2021, 6:45 PM

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but ive gone down every avenue with this setup

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its still extra fire auras

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 6:46 PM

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what are the optiosn for mage idols? on ward based i think the mana cost> ward idols wins

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they are also smaller i think

final maple Oct 3, 2021, 6:46 PM

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i'm sure this gets asked a lot, but does the game got enough content* to be worth getting now? i was waiting for multiplayer but i'm bored, so mostly worried about how finished it is since no end game and campaign isn't finished.

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 6:46 PM

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final maple i'm sure this gets asked a lot, but does the game got enough content* to be wort...

game is amazing

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i been playing it like 10-12 hours every day in last 2 weeks

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sure there are stuff id like to see fixed/imroved/added but gosh it is so good and so fun as it is right now

iron thistle Oct 3, 2021, 6:48 PM

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Endgame is mostly farming monolith for now, but there's enough to farm and plenty of builds to try to keep you occupied.

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 6:48 PM

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iron thistle Endgame is mostly farming monolith for now, but there's enough to farm and plent...

id like to see more bosses i think boss fights are best in this game

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they are not random and no weird 1 shooting

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and all that bs

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 6:51 PM

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marsh maple its still extra fire auras

anyways have you tried crit multi ? since the current mana > crit base should make it really easy to max crit maybe mana strike/arc could do really good damage . i guess tho there are not many ways to get as much flat void damage but we could try different weapon and maybe try get high melee void damage and try focus on the melee attack rather than the aura

warped dew Oct 3, 2021, 7:01 PM

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I know there's a lot of fun builds out there but they all rely on synergies between skills making you have to cast multiple things to get the best of it and that's exactly what I don't like

iron thistle Oct 3, 2021, 7:10 PM

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LE was designed to have much more interactive gameplay than just turn on auras, move skill and damage skill, speed run content in a few seconds.

warped dew Oct 3, 2021, 7:10 PM

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I know

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But then you'd have to rely on skills u don't really want to use

iron thistle Oct 3, 2021, 7:11 PM

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There are so many cool skills, though. Why not use more than one?

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 7:12 PM

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hahaha while its true its funny how cinder strike is just take coating oil nodes on it hold right click + left click

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and get all you need from stacking oil

marsh maple Oct 3, 2021, 7:12 PM

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Even my one button builds require the assistance of other skills to do applicable single target

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 7:12 PM

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cinder doesnt require anything xD

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i mean sure you use your shift/dodge

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but

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other than that

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you just click on cinder and dont let go

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it gives you 3k dodge just from attacking (flat) it gives you tonsssss of fire damage

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and pen

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😄

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so if you look for a build that dont need complex interaction cinder is fun

warped dew Oct 3, 2021, 7:14 PM

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Cinder slow tho

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I need to go zoom zoom and need my skills to flash

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 7:14 PM

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slow? xD

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stack alot of ignite and attack speed

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or crit with daggers and the flat throwing

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form oil

warped dew Oct 3, 2021, 7:15 PM

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It'll never be faster than flurry

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 7:15 PM

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i dont think anything is

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but it desinged to be

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flurry xD

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but cinder is in no way slow skill

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detonate arrow is slow attacking

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but cinder 2 hits after the big one are rapid hits

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or you can make lightning blst?

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i think its super zoom zoom

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and kinda simple like poe ar

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arc

broken pagoda Oct 3, 2021, 7:48 PM

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i wonder if these are any good or could actually work for a mage build

woeful parcel Oct 3, 2021, 10:52 PM

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Just a clarification question

What does this wording mean "additional sword strike... Is that just an extra strike without getting another stack

Or are stacks, and strikes different

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Or is it actually another hit for more single target

copper fable Oct 3, 2021, 11:10 PM

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multistrike creates an additional sword per stack, so if you had 3 stacks, it creates 3 swords. This makes it so if you have 3 stacks as your max, at 3 stacks you make 4 swords. Stacks and strikes are different, there is also a node that makes it so you get a strike even with 0 stacks.

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Also just to clarify, the extra swords never hit the same target. You can space yourself to create a sword without hitting with the base melee hit on bosses if you wanna summon smites for example, but extra swords do nothing for single target.

stable remnant Oct 3, 2021, 11:30 PM

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I'm currently playing a Shaman, level 44, and getting absolutely melted in the Heoborea zone with 737 HP and maxed resistances except poison. Any tips?

woeful parcel Oct 3, 2021, 11:48 PM

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copper fable Also just to clarify, the extra swords never hit the same target. You can space ...

Right thought so, unfortunate but understandable, was seeing if there was any node that made it a bit better for single but no worries, thanks!

brittle atlas Oct 4, 2021, 12:44 AM

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stable remnant I'm currently playing a Shaman, level 44, and getting absolutely melted in the H...

At level 45 you should get access to engraved gauntlet glove base. Using those and a couple suffix slots or the endurance nodes at the start of the Druid tree you can cap out endurance %, which is a pretty strong defensive layer. Otherwise, Primalist has some really strong generic defensive passives- Berserker in the primalist tree, then the aspect of the boar and porcine constitution nodes in beastmaster

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Also, just getting more hp. From passives, and then also making sure you get all of the increased health affixes you can- on helm, chest, gloves, belt, and boots

radiant shadow Oct 4, 2021, 6:31 AM

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what character did you choose

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going for necro or lich?

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class really determines difficulty

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necromancer has it easy because minions

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Lich can be easy if you know what to do. But as long as you don't get swarmed or one shot, difficulty stays pretty normal

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until you hit the current last boss, then difficulty spikes to 5000%

amber notch Oct 4, 2021, 7:11 AM

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Campaign goes up and down in difficulty, if you've played ARPGs before it's not hard

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Endgame is a bit harder

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And depends on how hard you want to make it

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 9:03 AM

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Does the passive from blademancer tree "Deaht's Choice" works according to the endurance threshold ? Meaning if I got it capped at 60% I will always take 24% DR once I get below the threshold or is it separate things ?

quartz dagger Oct 4, 2021, 9:29 AM

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question, as I was thinking about trying to build my own primalist beastmaster build: Do the effect of the wolves howl and frenzy totem stack? or is it pick one

marsh maple Oct 4, 2021, 9:41 AM

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no they dont stack @quartz dagger

quartz dagger Oct 4, 2021, 9:43 AM

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alright, thanks

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 9:46 AM

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It's not really specified what is "low health", is it 30% and it can't be modified or does it work with endurance and such stuff

green tendon Oct 4, 2021, 10:34 AM

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warped dew It's not really specified what is "low health", is it 30% and it can't be modifi...

35% is low health and cannot be modified by any means.

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 10:37 AM

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So having endurance capped does not affect Death Choice passive then?

green tendon Oct 4, 2021, 10:44 AM

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I'd have to see the deaths choice passive but it seems likely

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 10:48 AM

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Also something just came through my mind, since Flurry can be channeled, meaning it doesn't gain anything from "3rd attack deals blablabla" nodes, does it stacks bleed ? I feel like bleed is more effective when I cast Flurry multiple times than just channeling it

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Nvm its stack the same, its just weird

green tendon Oct 4, 2021, 10:51 AM

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Correct, Death's Door would stack with endurance but does not get altered by endurance.

green tendon Oct 4, 2021, 10:53 AM

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warped dew Also something just came through my mind, since Flurry can be channeled, meaning...

Bleed is applied per hit, not per attack. If an attack has multiple hits, it applies multiple times. Meanwhile, no matter how many hits an attack has, it still counts as one attack. (There might be edge cases where something was coded weirdly, but that should be the general rule)

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 10:56 AM

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So it's working along with base endurance% or the threshold ?

frosty mirage Oct 4, 2021, 10:57 AM

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The threshold is simply when endurance kicks in, if you want them to kick in at the same time you will want to get threshold to roughly 35% of your health

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But if doing a lowlife build ward build, this should already be the case

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 11:00 AM

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Nope, just asking

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I got told to get my endurance capped

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which I did

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But wait

green tendon Oct 4, 2021, 11:00 AM

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Basically:
Below 35% life, you take -24% damage due to Death's Door.
Below your endurance threshold, you take your endurance% less damage due to endurance.
If your endurance% is 60, then when both apply you'd take about 70% less damage in total.

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 11:00 AM

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I got endurance wrong

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I thought it was a threshold where below whatever % damage reduction would take place

green tendon Oct 4, 2021, 11:01 AM

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1 - 0.76 x 0.4 = 0.696 reduction or 69.6% less damage taken

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 11:01 AM

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but I get 60% DR under the actual threshold which is really low

green tendon Oct 4, 2021, 11:02 AM

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What's your threshold and what's your life?

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 11:02 AM

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259 threshold for 1k2

green tendon Oct 4, 2021, 11:02 AM

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That's about 21.5%

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So yeah, between 35% and 21.5%, you'd get 24% damage reduction. Below 21.5%, you'd get 24% x 60% = 69.6%

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 11:03 AM

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would it be rounded to 100% with 71% GB ?

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I'd have to get my threshold higher if I want more survivability then

green tendon Oct 4, 2021, 11:03 AM

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frosty mirage But if doing a lowlife build ward build, this should already be the case

Note that endurance does not work on ward.

green tendon Oct 4, 2021, 11:04 AM

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warped dew would it be rounded to 100% with 71% GB ?

No.

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With glancing blows you take 35% less damage from a hit. That would be 69.6% x 35% = 80%.

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 11:05 AM

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Does GB have a cooldown tho ? A permanent 35% DR seems a bit OP

green tendon Oct 4, 2021, 11:05 AM

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GB is generally somewhat hard to get to 100%.

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Rule of thumb is that when you want to increase a number, multiplying them together is better than adding them together. When you want to reduce a number, multiplying them is worse than adding together.

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Also, GB only works on hits, not DoTs.

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Endurance works on DoTs as well

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 11:07 AM

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Oh ok, I knew about GB not working on DoTs but didn't about endurance

frosty mirage Oct 4, 2021, 11:07 AM

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green tendon Note that endurance does not work on ward.

Thanks for the clarification, should have searched that, also tracks in terms of why ward overall (outside of hidden .5 modifier in ward retention) is in a weak spot

Yet to do a ward build because I’ve found them to be meh personally

green tendon Oct 4, 2021, 11:08 AM

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Yeah they are finnicky at best. Endurance does say in game that it doesn't work on ward, but it's not the most intuitive thing in the world.

frosty mirage Oct 4, 2021, 11:09 AM

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I’ve never gone ward, but I typically work with Rogue, Primalist, and Sentinel builds

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My necro is just high HP as well since I use block and armor

brave ibex Oct 4, 2021, 12:08 PM

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You need a lot of consistent ward generation for it to be better than just HP stacking. Some of the new uniques are really good for that. Overall though it ends up being pretty niche because if you can Hp stack and use leech, you'll always do that rather than ward

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 12:46 PM

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guys i need help understanding 1 node pls

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this node if i understand it right can only create 1 fire aura per second regardless of if you are attacking or moving right?

amber notch Oct 4, 2021, 12:55 PM

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Yes

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 12:56 PM

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is this really good node then and worth spending points on?

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even when maxed its 40% per second

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8 points and lets say it was 50% chance thats still avrage of 1 aura every 2 seconds at the most

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i mean i can see how its comfortable cause you have some stacks as you walk to clean trash

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but in boss fight is this any real help?

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 1:38 PM

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I guess fire aura stacks ignite

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So it helps in a way

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 1:39 PM

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fire aura stack ignite?

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 1:40 PM

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well

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it's fire

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so it deals fire damage

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and I think every source of fire has a chance to ignite no ?

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 1:44 PM

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dont think so its not hit

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 1:47 PM

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it works as a DoT

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so in some sort of way it's an ignite proc but I don't think it works like this

balmy current Oct 4, 2021, 1:50 PM

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No, fire aura is a dot so can't hit therefore can't ignite.

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 1:51 PM

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Llama can we craft spell damage on a melee weapon?

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 1:52 PM

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thats the kind of things u can check yourself noiwk

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 1:52 PM

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true

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 1:52 PM

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instead of waiting for an answer simply open your materials window, search the affix and look on which gear u can craft it

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 1:53 PM

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yeah on it

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 1:53 PM

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and you can

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well

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 1:53 PM

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working on new build giving me trouble xD

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 1:53 PM

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in a way all weapons are melee

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but you can only craft it on :
Any jewelry
Sceptre
Wand
Two-Handed Staff
Off-Hand Catalyst

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jesus empowered are really something else

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look at those nodes

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broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 1:55 PM

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xD

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most of the damage nodes are prefix tho xD Umm

woeful parcel Oct 4, 2021, 1:57 PM

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balmy current No, fire aura is a dot so can't hit therefore can't ignite.

The pain of RF and scorching ray as well lmao

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 1:59 PM

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ohh dagger can come with a base addaptive spell damage

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and decent attack speed too

woeful parcel Oct 4, 2021, 2:00 PM

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Nice nice

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 2:01 PM

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just making sure the melee spell blade skills are not melee+spell hybrid right? they are pure melee and spell not effecting them

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?

woeful parcel Oct 4, 2021, 2:02 PM

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Like flame reave for example?

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Pretty sure just melee tag

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 2:03 PM

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I wouldn't go for daggers as a mage

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1H weapons suffers from reduced % on affixes

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 2:03 PM

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yeh

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 2:03 PM

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Where 2H gets more than twice the %

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If you're planning to play with a shield why not

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But 2H are BiS for some classes

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 2:04 PM

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thing is

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if i go ignite + fire aura

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attack speed> all

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 2:04 PM

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Like Sentiel for example, you could go DW

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 2:04 PM

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as long as i can maintain mana cost

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 2:04 PM

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But then 2H has more % and Warpath has inbuilt nodes that makes 2H gets double stats

woeful parcel Oct 4, 2021, 2:04 PM

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:)

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 2:05 PM

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the spell damage on dagger can help scale fire aura and it has base attack speed of 1.1

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off hand cat can provide alot of ward per second

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 2:07 PM

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yeah but look at those

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 2:07 PM

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is there a away to get - mana cost for melee ?

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 2:07 PM

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the fuck

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wait

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broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 2:08 PM

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brcause i think weapon choice will depend alot of if im able to sustain mana

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 2:08 PM

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It's better using those

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You'll lose attack speed that's for sure

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but you get a maximum of 80 with 2 perfect rolled daggers

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where the sorcery staff with the weakest roll has 81

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Catalysts gives ward but you have to make a build around ward and be able to sustain it

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 2:09 PM

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thats true but i got 50% chance to create fire aura when attacking with flame reave

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 2:09 PM

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pretty sure you can craft ward on weapons

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 2:09 PM

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so attack speed = more fire aura

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also if i go for ignite + fire aura

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which is what im trying to do

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more attacks = more ignire + more fire aura

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and the ignite doesnt really scale from spell damage

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 2:10 PM

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frankly you'd better lose attack speed and get more spell damage than going the other way

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 2:11 PM

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i mean that depends on if i can keep up with mana cost i guess because look theres that sword with 1.24 base attack speed

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and 56% damage over time

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base attack speed really matters

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but then again

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2H isnt a bad choice if i cant sustain mana

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it will give me more chance to ignite and more damage % /flat

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and make it easier to keep mana

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another option i consider is

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converting to lighting to build around fire aura + shock to get reduce lighting resist

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and use mana strike

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and Culnivar's Claim

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to constantly convert mana into ward

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so then i trade ignite > shock and 30% less chance on hit to create aura

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 2:22 PM

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Idk

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Also btw you should try to focus on ONE character, I know you're curious to test everything, I'm the same, but really you should stick to the character you're having most fun with and push it to empowered monos, you'll find so much good shit you'll be able to make other and stronger builds later on

woeful parcel Oct 4, 2021, 2:24 PM

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warped dew Also btw you should try to focus on ONE character, I know you're curious to test...

This was my issue, that's why I'm forcing myself to stay on this guy till I can't make it any further

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 2:25 PM

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never gonna know which i like most if i dont try others

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and im at point where im getting bored of my cinder strike marksman

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doesnt mean i quit it

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but it means i want to start think of another build

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and use that marksman as i do empowered to farm the items

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i need for the next build

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 2:27 PM

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yeah but if you don't play your marksman anymore u wont be able to get good stuff

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 2:29 PM

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if i dont know what i wanna make next i wont pick up the "good stuff" like i said i dont stop using it but soon i will

woeful parcel Oct 4, 2021, 2:30 PM

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No worries

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 2:36 PM

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Fucking ranged monsters

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Throwing 7894616 things simultaneously

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and I can't properly dodge it because my dodge skill has a fucking cooldown

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also lags because too many ennemies why not

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"damage reduction" more like "those are just numbers they're not effective"

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71% GB chance but guess what let's take the 29 non GB chance and proc it every single time

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I could beat 5 Majasas with ease but those trash mobs I swear they're just too strong, Orobyss can go back to sleep we've found way stronger

austere ember Oct 4, 2021, 4:28 PM

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mobs be like "together stronk"

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 4:31 PM

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Facts

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 4:53 PM

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does 15% endurance is added to the 20% reduction or is like *1.15 ?

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in better words is getting 15% endurance make the damage reduction 35%?

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or increase the base 20% by 15% and make it 23% reduction?

balmy current Oct 4, 2021, 4:56 PM

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broken pagoda does 15% endurance is added to the 20% reduction or is like *1.15 ?

Added.

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20% + 15% = 35%

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 4:56 PM

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wow

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that is op

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so if im honest getting higher life kinda pointless

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it seems much better to get block/damage reduce/arrmor + endurance

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rather than building higher life pool

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 4:58 PM

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not so op if u don't get your threshold at higher values

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I have 60% endurance

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 4:58 PM

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yes ofc

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 4:58 PM

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but my threshold is 247 for 1235 HP

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So it's quite useless by now

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 4:59 PM

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but im saying better keep low hp + high threshhold

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 4:59 PM

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no

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 4:59 PM

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ya items dont seme to give much threshold

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 4:59 PM

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you only want low hp when playing a ward build most of the time

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that's what most of the community says

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 5:00 PM

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i meant not low % of life

balmy current Oct 4, 2021, 5:00 PM

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warped dew you only want low hp when playing a ward build most of the time

No, you want high hp when playing a ward build

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 5:00 PM

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but not having high life pool

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 5:00 PM

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ok nvm

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you still don't want low hp tho

balmy current Oct 4, 2021, 5:00 PM

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at least with Exsanguinous/Last Steps

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 5:00 PM

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yeah Sk i jsut say that ptobably taking reductions and stuff is more valued than taking life

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and that life seems abit less appealing now

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 5:02 PM

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you always want life

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no matter what

woeful parcel Oct 4, 2021, 5:02 PM

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Unless you want DEATH

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Then carry on

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 5:02 PM

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it's good having defensive layers but then if you have 300 life in empowered monos even a leaf could kill you

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Ok i want death but IRL

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not in game tho

woeful parcel Oct 4, 2021, 5:02 PM

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Moood

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I mean what

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 5:02 PM

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xDE

woeful parcel Oct 4, 2021, 5:02 PM

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peepo

frosty mirage Oct 4, 2021, 5:03 PM

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Not many pure ET builds out there, outside of BM not many passives that raise ET, so it requires a significant investment gear wise that just isn’t worth compared to dumping into health

woeful parcel Oct 4, 2021, 5:03 PM

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Endurance threshold?

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 5:04 PM

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yeah but then what's the point of having 60% endurance when your health barely goes below that threshold and the only times u get killed is because of massive hits/dots or even trash mobs spamming ranged attacks

woeful parcel Oct 4, 2021, 5:05 PM

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And endurance doesn't effect DoT I'd imagine

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 5:07 PM

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it does

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thats what makes it so strong

woeful parcel Oct 4, 2021, 5:07 PM

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Oh whoops

frosty mirage Oct 4, 2021, 5:09 PM

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Armor doesn’t affect DoT

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 5:09 PM

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almost nothing does

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resists being ignired by area lvl

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 5:09 PM

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Oh yeah GB doesn't affect DoTs

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 5:09 PM

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block doesnt

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glancing blow doesnt

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im pretty sure dodge not supposed to but it actually does there is this boss that has dot poison spell in a cone and line and i do dodge it on my marksman

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also the fire breath

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 5:11 PM

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what

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 5:11 PM

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but maybe they are actually hit

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 5:11 PM

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what boss

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 5:11 PM

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the one on echo reset

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 5:11 PM

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Orobyss

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 5:11 PM

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ya

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 5:11 PM

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Ok so

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Bleed is a DoT

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Poison is a DoT

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 5:11 PM

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these alliement tho applied by the hit

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 5:11 PM

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Stacking those 2, even ignite, they're DoTs

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 5:12 PM

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if you dodge the hit you dodge the bleed i think

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 5:12 PM

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But to stack those you have to hit, right ?

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Then if you dodge his spits, he doesn't have time to hit you multiple times, meaning he only stacks 1 or 2 poison/ignite whatever

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But you still get damaged, not a lot

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What works for the player also works for mobs

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 5:13 PM

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yeah

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dodge very strong defenisve in my opinion

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 5:14 PM

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yeah it works

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that's the mechanic of dodging tho

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 5:17 PM

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^^

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 5:18 PM

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empowered lagon ez but no good blessings sigh

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cant wait to have money and dump a shitton of bucks into cosmetics

hollow socket Oct 4, 2021, 5:25 PM

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warped dew cant wait to have money and dump a shitton of bucks into cosmetics

What do you like best about cosmetics?

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I don't buy them frequently in any game, but I'd love to know the appeal.

pseudo dust Oct 4, 2021, 5:31 PM

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I like to play dress up, or at least color coordinate

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Giving my dude a cohesive look instead of goodwill mix and match

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And maybe get a better hat on acolyte

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 5:35 PM

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@hollow socket I'm addicted to it since I did it on PoE

hollow socket Oct 4, 2021, 5:45 PM

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I remember I bought the Rhoa skull helmet on PoE. Didn't look good on any of the characters.

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But that was the selling point ^^

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 5:47 PM

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oh yeah it doesn't look good at all xD

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let me log in PoE real quick to show you what I bought and why i'd like to see similar stuff on LE

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... I uninstalled it

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oh well xd

hollow socket Oct 4, 2021, 5:48 PM

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Good choice. 💪

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But that's part of the reason why I often don't buy. Who knows how long I'll play that game?

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And many games don't have a cheap section where the loss isn't as high. Especially PoE.

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 5:54 PM

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But then it's fully cosmetic wise and doesn't improve your game experience

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You could spend 10k hours without buying anything

pseudo dust Oct 4, 2021, 5:55 PM

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It was the vaal pajamas that broke me

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I couldn't look that terrible all the time

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 5:56 PM

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To give an idea I have all the celestial gears/character effect/footprints, 2 head accessories and celestial skill effects (mostly Heralds/Cyclone and some auras as well)

pseudo dust Oct 4, 2021, 5:58 PM

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But I don't feel like I was cheated or anything. I played it a lot, bought a supporter pack on league launch to support the game I was enjoying, then spent my fake money points on style

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 6:02 PM

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^

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I'd rather spend shitton of money to look cool and support a game that deserves it than do it on a non rewarding game (Rainbow Six or Apex)

woeful parcel Oct 4, 2021, 6:47 PM

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warped dew cant wait to have money and dump a shitton of bucks into cosmetics

Mee too! Love to look cohesive, especially if it's an unique build that I want to stand out on lol

amber notch Oct 4, 2021, 6:52 PM

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My bow mage has a mana cost of 1 on flurry, nothing in the skill tree increases it by 1. Any ideas why that might be

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 6:54 PM

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What level are you ?

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@amber notch

amber notch Oct 4, 2021, 6:54 PM

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Like 70

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It doesn't cost 1 mana on my blademaster (which isn't specialised in flurry)

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 6:56 PM

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Check base Rogue tree, if you have "Coated Blades", also check Marksman if you have points into "Ethereal Arrows" or "Mana Warp"

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Also could be gear related but idk about this one

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Are you channeling flurry ?

amber notch Oct 4, 2021, 6:56 PM

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Coated blades doesn't increase 0 mana cost skills

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Yes

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 6:57 PM

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Well there you go

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Base mana cost of channeled flurry is 1

amber notch Oct 4, 2021, 6:57 PM

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.. channeling has a cost over time but doesn't mention an initial cost

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 6:57 PM

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Well it kinda does in a way

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Not that easy to understand but it states "to maintain", you still have to cast it

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But 5 mana cost per sec is nothing

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And flurry is way more powerful with channeling anyways

amber notch Oct 4, 2021, 6:58 PM

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I know, but the initial 1 mana cost makes Coated Blades make it cost more, if it wasn't 0 then coated blades wouldn't increase it

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Thus it would be free to cast still

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 6:59 PM

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Yeah but it also wouldn't increase its damage

amber notch Oct 4, 2021, 7:00 PM

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I know, I'm figuring out whether I can make it trigger HoA without it costing mana but getting the benefit of the mana scaling nodes

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 7:02 PM

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Pretty sure you can't proc HoA through flurry

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If you're talking about Rain of Arrows well.. Sorry to disappoint you but HoA and RoA are two separate things

amber notch Oct 4, 2021, 7:03 PM

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Oh god, I'm blind

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Thanks

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 7:03 PM

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No worries

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I made the same mistake

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But then I pressed ALT while hovering it

woeful parcel Oct 4, 2021, 7:03 PM

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unf

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 7:03 PM

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Dumping 4 points into it is a waste

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 8:48 PM

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@broken pagoda wouldn't this be good for your fire aura build ?

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 8:49 PM

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warped dew <@!499269479038058506> wouldn't this be good for your fire aura build ?

nah xD dont need it i have plenty of these actually

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hahah

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mana cost for melee skills would be good for my fire aura build 😄

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 8:50 PM

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ok ok

woeful parcel Oct 4, 2021, 8:50 PM

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I'll snag one of those eventually tho

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Cool looking

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 8:51 PM

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i got very weird question xD haha

woeful parcel Oct 4, 2021, 8:51 PM

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Nice

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 8:51 PM

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why is it lightning? 😂

woeful parcel Oct 4, 2021, 8:51 PM

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Oh no that's not weird I didn't get it either

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I just was like huh okay and never thought to use it

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 8:53 PM

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Wdym why is it lightning ?

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 8:53 PM

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its like 1 single point that is crit multi and its only point related to lighting xD

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its like abit weird haha would;ve made sense if it converted fireball or something or if it added fire damage

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or had more ligntning nodes

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 8:54 PM

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It's not said but apparently it changes fire to lightning

woeful parcel Oct 4, 2021, 8:55 PM

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Oh that's cool

warped dew Oct 4, 2021, 8:55 PM

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whats ur MS% ?

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 8:57 PM

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ohh

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cool to know thanks

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^^

woeful parcel Oct 4, 2021, 9:21 PM

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Ooo titan femur, that's a cool weapon hmmm

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16-32 strength

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 9:30 PM

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warped dew It's not said but apparently it changes fire to lightning

it doesnt change all the fire related stuff into lightning tho does it? or you dont know?

pseudo dust Oct 4, 2021, 9:33 PM

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Pretty sure it doesn't convert, shuriken has a similar node that just adds lightning

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It might add the lightning tag, but I don't know for sure

broken pagoda Oct 4, 2021, 9:34 PM

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i see

balmy current Oct 4, 2021, 9:56 PM

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warped dew It's not said but apparently it changes fire to lightning

It doesn't, it just adds base lightning damage & adds the lightning tag,

woeful parcel Oct 4, 2021, 10:30 PM

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Oh at least it adds the tag

cyan bough Oct 4, 2021, 10:57 PM

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I'm back to game on LE - I'm looking for a "zoom zoom" style of build, closely related to the old spirit putrescence builds 😄

woeful parcel Oct 4, 2021, 11:00 PM

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Probably a shadow rouge of some kind

austere ember Oct 4, 2021, 11:18 PM

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Yeah, I'd say Rogue with shift or Sentinel with Shield Charge

cyan bough Oct 4, 2021, 11:19 PM

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Got it! Thanks 😄

elder bolt Oct 5, 2021, 2:19 AM

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guys... what this line mean? if i have 300% lightning resis, so i have 100% mana regen?

radiant shadow Oct 5, 2021, 2:24 AM

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cap res is 75%

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anything over 75 won't effect it

elder bolt Oct 5, 2021, 2:25 AM

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ah,thx!

radiant shadow Oct 5, 2021, 2:25 AM

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think that's around like 25% mana regen?

elder bolt Oct 5, 2021, 2:26 AM

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if so..25% is some kind of meme..unique

radiant shadow Oct 5, 2021, 2:27 AM

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most uniques are kind of ass imo

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benefits and affects are negligible, better off with a good rolled exalt

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also doesn't help the fact 90% of the dropped uniques are unusable, considering the loot table doesn't take into account your class

pseudo dust Oct 5, 2021, 2:40 AM

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It says uncapped though

iron thistle Oct 5, 2021, 3:08 AM

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It's 100%. It's based on total lightning res, not the value at which enemies no longer penetrate.

copper fable Oct 5, 2021, 3:12 AM

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Yeah anything that mentions uncapped is looking at the uncapped raw value, not simply what you can have up to. You can use that item to get very high amounts of regen if you want to put lightning res on all slots.

iron thistle Oct 5, 2021, 3:56 AM

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It's really tempting for my current build, but I'd lose out on +2 Tornado and maybe +2 Maelstrom as well as a bunch of potential health. I'd also have to somehow get up to 450 lightning resistance to cover my mana costs. Too much investment probably.

radiant shadow Oct 5, 2021, 5:31 AM

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you_huh

elder bolt Oct 5, 2021, 5:40 AM

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but in this game there's no flat mana regen source like clarity right? it's poor 8 per second...even if i have 400% regen that's 40 mana per sec...still not enough(maybe i'm wrong

wide sentinel Oct 5, 2021, 5:43 AM

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what?

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40 mana regen is not enough for what skill?

elder bolt Oct 5, 2021, 5:43 AM

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meteor spam?

wide sentinel Oct 5, 2021, 5:44 AM

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its not a skill you are supposed to spam

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lmao

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and you have focus that you can use with negative mana nodes should be more than enough for decent gameplay

copper fable Oct 5, 2021, 5:50 AM

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Basically if you come from PoE, this game does have a limit there is just some skills that cant be your main skill, meteor is one of them sadly. you have to use it as a "big nuke" button and have another filler skill that costs 0 mana usually used to fill in the gap meteor leaves

severe scaffold Oct 5, 2021, 7:27 AM

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Does "Minion Health Regen" influence the decay of Summon Wraith?

amber notch Oct 5, 2021, 7:42 AM

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IIRC it slows it down but doesn't completely stop it, eventually it'll still die

severe scaffold Oct 5, 2021, 7:57 AM

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:/

red heart Oct 5, 2021, 8:13 AM

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Hello! There is a unique fire amulet that gives 1-3% Fire skill crit chance, is this a separate crit chance or does it add onto the regular crit chance?

cloud kindle Oct 5, 2021, 8:14 AM

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add to the regular one

red heart Oct 5, 2021, 8:17 AM

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it doesn't change the stat when you unequip it though

brave ibex Oct 5, 2021, 8:18 AM

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Its added, but it wont be represented in the character sheet because it only applies to fire skills

red heart Oct 5, 2021, 8:21 AM

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oh ok got you thanks @brave ibex

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and @cloud kindle

brave ibex Oct 5, 2021, 8:28 AM

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Devs have said eventually they want to have specific stats like that shown somewhere

balmy current Oct 5, 2021, 10:35 AM

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brave ibex Devs have said eventually they want to have specific stats like that shown somew...

Yup, they're working on redoing the character screen.

static glacier Oct 5, 2021, 2:08 PM

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The whole char screen is a total mess with huge holes.. it looks like it is for like ... an eternity and has not aged Well at all

woeful parcel Oct 5, 2021, 2:09 PM

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didn't know that was a possible affix, totally cool lol

warped dew Oct 5, 2021, 3:10 PM

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nice

woeful parcel Oct 5, 2021, 3:32 PM

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Yeah that would be a lot of fun for a different way to do it, I'll wait till I get a nutty T6/7 throwing damage shield and a shield throw helmet.

But that's exciting void knight shield skills lol

wide sentinel Oct 5, 2021, 4:28 PM

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why would you need t6/7 throwing damage shield?

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if anything its better to get t6/t7 block chance shield cause the node on the tree works multiplicatively

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and throwing damage affix on shield is no different than any %inc damage affix on any gear or passive

warped dew Oct 5, 2021, 4:34 PM

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it's a conversion to void damage

static glacier Oct 5, 2021, 4:37 PM

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You can only roll the conversion on idols

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Doesnt exist in gear

woeful parcel Oct 5, 2021, 4:39 PM

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Not a need for like I require that, just a need for my own reasons to limit my builds is all lol.

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But the block chance info was good to know

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Lol

static glacier Oct 5, 2021, 4:40 PM

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Generell % ed for whatever is usually the kind of t6 exalt not worth keeping

woeful parcel Oct 5, 2021, 4:40 PM

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Hmm okay good to know!

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Thanks

static glacier Oct 5, 2021, 4:41 PM

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Not in all cases ofc !

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But usually you have 4 digit numbers total % ed

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So 100% extra from an exalt is not so impressive

woeful parcel Oct 5, 2021, 4:42 PM

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Right indeed

warped dew Oct 5, 2021, 4:52 PM

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bot

quartz dagger Oct 5, 2021, 7:30 PM

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Do serpent poison and skorpion poison effects stack or is it the same afterall?

brittle atlas Oct 5, 2021, 8:17 PM

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if you just mean the poison ailment, it stacks regardless of source

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there's no stack limit on poison

turbid cypress Oct 5, 2021, 9:58 PM

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Anyone know how to activate my forum badge?

knotty hinge Oct 5, 2021, 10:06 PM

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turbid cypress Anyone know how to activate my forum badge?

It should be available under the badges tab when you click on your user profile.

turbid cypress Oct 5, 2021, 10:15 PM

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Only badge I see is "First Traveler" It also doesn't look like the screenshot. I had to dig in a drop down to find it.

brave ibex Oct 5, 2021, 10:24 PM

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Are "chance to cast Smite on Throwing Hit" idols especially rare?

brittle atlas Oct 5, 2021, 11:34 PM

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I don't think they're any rarer than other given affix on an idol

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which is to say, getting them is still entirely rng and they're not mega common

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but they're not exactly rare either

random dock Oct 6, 2021, 12:34 AM

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this ☝️

RNG BE RNG 🤣

it does feel soooooooooo good getting a FAT double affix idol though

radiant shadow Oct 6, 2021, 3:46 AM

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is there a max to ailment stacks (like bleed/ignite)? Or do they just stack infinitely

brittle atlas Oct 6, 2021, 4:55 AM

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it depends on the ailment, but bleed and ignite are both uncapped

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https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/ailments

Last Epoch Info

Ailments

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if you want details on any others

quartz dagger Oct 6, 2021, 6:44 AM

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At this point I don't believe devotion is a common drop.. is there a list somewhere with % chances?

red heart Oct 6, 2021, 7:11 AM

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Anyone else running volcanic(2h sword) fire build ?

brave ibex Oct 6, 2021, 8:16 AM

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brittle atlas but they're not exactly rare either

Classic desire sensor I guess, can't get one to save my life

violet terrace Oct 6, 2021, 8:16 AM

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Why in the sweet almighty !@#$ is Dread Shade still decaying my minions HP? Even minions that aren't in it's AoE?https://i.imgur.com/joDldGh.jpeg

Imgur

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I answered my own question. I had damned stacks on my minions.

gray sierra Oct 6, 2021, 9:27 AM

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Posing this here and in the Dev area. Blitz in the multistrike tree fully spec'd has 50% physical penetration. Does this apply to bleed in the sense that it should increase bleeds dmg on the target since the target would only have 50% physical mitigation each hit. Messing around with it, it seems to be the case but i would like to verify this.,

brave ibex Oct 6, 2021, 9:37 AM

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gray sierra Posing this here and in the Dev area. Blitz in the multistrike tree fully spec'd...

Yes in this case physical penetration will apply to bleeds applied via Multistrike. As long as the node doesn't specify 'on hit' it'll also work for ailments applied by that skill. Similar example is "physical penetration with puncture" will increase Puncture bleed dmg

gray sierra Oct 6, 2021, 9:38 AM

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brave ibex Yes in this case physical penetration will apply to bleeds applied via Multistr...

https://tenor.com/view/wow-omg-surprised-scared-kid-gif-10714204

Tenor

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this....this is something new.

maiden flume Oct 6, 2021, 10:39 AM

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woeful parcel Oct 6, 2021, 10:45 AM

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Quite fast

maiden flume Oct 6, 2021, 10:46 AM

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woeful parcel Oct 6, 2021, 10:49 AM

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I want to say oomoh

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Oomph

frosty mirage Oct 6, 2021, 10:59 AM

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quartz dagger At this point I don't believe devotion is a common drop.. is there a list somewh...

Last epoch tools has the categories for each unique in terms of drop rate

But I would agree, I’ve only had one drop so far

quartz dagger Oct 6, 2021, 11:09 AM

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frosty mirage Last epoch tools has the categories for each unique in terms of drop rate But I...

last time I checked there I couldn't find anything regarding % dropchances, guess I will take a look again. Cheers!

frosty mirage Oct 6, 2021, 11:11 AM

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They won’t have a percentage per se but they give a general idea. Orians eye is the most ridiculous drop rate I believe, Ravenous Void is up there too from what I know

quartz dagger Oct 6, 2021, 12:29 PM

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alright, that makes sense. thanks

woeful parcel Oct 6, 2021, 12:32 PM

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Makes sense it's a beautiful amulet lol

pallid sage Oct 6, 2021, 12:51 PM

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Guys, how can i post my build on letools?

static glacier Oct 6, 2021, 12:52 PM

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At the left side is an upload arrow

pallid sage Oct 6, 2021, 12:55 PM

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Ok, thx

thin iron Oct 6, 2021, 3:49 PM

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Sorry if this is the wrong channel, but I have a question about the Meditation node on Sigils of Hope. I saw a build guide take both that and Sigils of Despair, and it certainly isn't doing anything to my regen... so is it doubling the added damage that replaced the regen, or just doing nothing and its inclusion is some sort of mistake?

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This would be easier to check myself, but I'm not aware of an easy place to check flat damage added on my sheet.

brave ibex Oct 6, 2021, 3:56 PM

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Yeah Meditation isn't doing anything if you've also taken Sigils of Despair. I assume the guide probably took Meditation to get to the node after that gives block chance, but it could also just be a mistake

thin iron Oct 6, 2021, 4:32 PM

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brave ibex Yeah Meditation isn't doing anything if you've also taken Sigils of Despair. I a...

There's nothing past it so I think it's just an error (in any case this is dual wield so block wouldn't do much for me). Thanks for the explanation! ..Forgot to check back for a bit, sorry about the belated reply.

frosty mirage Oct 6, 2021, 6:19 PM

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Anybody else look at some of their first build ideas and chuckle? I save mine in version format so it’s always fun seeing the evolution of a build through that lens

I still make mistakes on the initial theorycrafting stage, though I’ve gotten a lot better.

woeful parcel Oct 6, 2021, 6:31 PM

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frosty mirage Anybody else look at some of their first build ideas and chuckle? I save mine in...

Mines a spriggin druid, hardly used lmao but still there I could go back

swift cairn Oct 6, 2021, 9:04 PM

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Does anyone know if increased melee damage would increase sub skills from void cleave (ravaging aura) damage?

static glacier Oct 6, 2021, 9:16 PM

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green spindle Oct 6, 2021, 9:20 PM

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Is the drop rate for Apathy’s Maw broken? Or it’s just very low? It’s the 2h axe that drops from Shade of Oboryss

swift cairn Oct 6, 2021, 9:21 PM

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requires at least 50 corruption to have a chance to drop

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low drop either way

green spindle Oct 6, 2021, 9:21 PM

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I see, i have been wasting time farming the normal monolith then

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Thanks

static glacier Oct 6, 2021, 9:21 PM

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not super common agree ... 25 rings for 1 axe i would guess 😉

swift cairn Oct 6, 2021, 9:22 PM

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I saw that Hybria, but I read somewhere that more damage nodes on the skill increase sub skills damage as well

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was wondering if the more melee damage nodes on void cleave increase ravaging aura as well or only generic more damage nodes

static glacier Oct 6, 2021, 9:22 PM

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usually they do

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but this seems like a total sperate thing

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to be sure @balmy current

swift cairn Oct 6, 2021, 9:23 PM

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I see, makes sense, thanks

static glacier Oct 6, 2021, 9:23 PM

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i read somewhere that the aura sucks cause you can not really scale it outside of "its branch"

swift cairn Oct 6, 2021, 9:24 PM

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trying to make a void damage over time build with the void beams from erasing strike and ravaging aura, both scale off of Vit so was hoping there's a build there somewhere

snow spruce Oct 6, 2021, 10:52 PM

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swift cairn was wondering if the more melee damage nodes on void cleave increase ravaging au...

No, Ravaging Aura is a spell, and not a melee attack

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However, if Void Cleave had "more spell damage" or "more void damage" or "more damage over time" nodes, those would apply

robust pawn Oct 6, 2021, 11:51 PM

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What's ballpark hp for high level empowered/corrupt mono mobs?

austere ember Oct 7, 2021, 12:18 AM

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Heavily depends on your class and build

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1000~1500hp can be fine for a rogue with high dodge+glancing blow+block, or a mage with shitton of ward
whereas 2000hp can feel a little bit squishy for a character that just has a lil bit of armor and nothing else

brittle atlas Oct 7, 2021, 12:22 AM

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1500 going into empowered, but eventually I'd want at least 2000 on every class

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but some classes like primalist or sentinel could easily be over 3k, sometimes over 4k

robust pawn Oct 7, 2021, 12:33 AM

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I mean the mobs hp

brittle atlas Oct 7, 2021, 12:34 AM

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oh uh

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without mods like

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maybe 3-4k for smaller mobs

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bigger mobs like 15-20k?

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for base empowered

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some mobs are way tankier than others

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but for the most part, normal stuff is paper

robust pawn Oct 7, 2021, 12:38 AM

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oh that's excellent

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I was figuring 20k hp + for my freeze calcs

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ty

brittle atlas Oct 7, 2021, 12:44 AM

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depends how high you go

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and modifiers are way more impactful than base corruption

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especially since you'll often want to be taking increased hp modifiers to avoid taking damage modifiers

stable remnant Oct 7, 2021, 2:49 AM

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I saw on last epoch tools there is a new polearm base called the Jadebone Javelin with an increased poison damage implicit, but it's tagged as "Can't drop". Does that mean it's in the game, but unobtainable?

brittle atlas Oct 7, 2021, 2:50 AM

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It's only available via the unique

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Lethal Concentration

stable remnant Oct 7, 2021, 3:01 AM

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Oh bummer

mystic sleet Oct 7, 2021, 12:31 PM

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Hi Travellers is there a way to delete a stash tab?

knotty hinge Oct 7, 2021, 12:57 PM

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mystic sleet Hi Travellers is there a way to delete a stash tab?

I don't believe so, why would you like to?

woeful parcel Oct 7, 2021, 12:58 PM

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^

balmy current Oct 7, 2021, 1:47 PM

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swift cairn I saw that Hybria, but I read somewhere that more damage nodes on the skill incr...

Ravaging Aura isn't melee therefore it can't inherit melee bonuses.

swift cairn Oct 7, 2021, 2:10 PM

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FIgured as much, thank you

mystic sleet Oct 7, 2021, 3:09 PM

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knotty hinge I don't believe so, why would you like to?

Because I bought so many stash tabs and now I had like 15 stash tabs for exalted items. I cannot even move them to a different category where I would need some of those now.

pseudo dust Oct 7, 2021, 3:10 PM

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mystic sleet Because I bought so many stash tabs and now I had like 15 stash tabs for exalted...

right click the tab name and you can move them to different categories

rare parrot Oct 7, 2021, 5:52 PM

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Hey y'all, I'm looking at lightning blast and the "halo effect" spark nova and the "cloud answer" spark charge procs. Do shattershock and frontloaded apply to those spells when procced from lightning blast? Does storm razor?

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in case anyone else is looking for this, I think I answered my own question, the tooltip says no, the tooltip damage for spark nova doesn't change when you allocate points to frontloaded.

thin iron Oct 7, 2021, 6:14 PM

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So I finally realised after a couple deaths that even after the monolith changes I do seem to, at least some of the time, be losing stability when I die. I haven't looked closely enough to tell though, does anybody know roughly how bad it is?

iron thistle Oct 7, 2021, 6:15 PM

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I've noticed a loss of 10-20 when I die, but I've only looked when I was done building stability and had to go run another echo to do all 3 quests.

thin iron Oct 7, 2021, 6:16 PM

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That does sound about right according to my other source (a very vague hunch I'm choosing to trust). Thank you.

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Mostly it happens from leaving the computer at the wrong moment, or dying a couple times to a Shade of Orobyss fight. So far.

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Are XP nodes on rifts completely useless after 100?

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I mean, gold is useless right now so I wouldn't rule it out.

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(Pretty grateful for now though, 100 is a ways off.)

iron thistle Oct 7, 2021, 6:18 PM

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You can still build up to 100 with 99% XP.

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But basically useless. Higher XP gains do relevel skills faster if you reset them, though.

thin iron Oct 7, 2021, 6:19 PM

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Oh, fair point.

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Thank you.

iron thistle Oct 7, 2021, 6:19 PM

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Gold isn't quite useless. You can buy up to 200 stash tabs at increasing costs and also gamble for crafting bases.

thin iron Oct 7, 2021, 6:19 PM

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...

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Okay, I didn't know there were that many.

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I have about 7 in use now and I desperately need to organise them rather than just chucking whatever in there and making it Future Lailah's problem to sift through the dumpster.

iron thistle Oct 7, 2021, 6:20 PM

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Ahh yes. Leaving problems for Future Us.

thin iron Oct 7, 2021, 6:20 PM

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There are definitely a lot of unnecessary unique duplicates in there at minimum.

random dock Oct 7, 2021, 6:21 PM

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I have that problem 😂 Im a hoarder lol

thin iron Oct 7, 2021, 6:21 PM

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To be fair, the game is on your side, clearly.

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I mean, 200 stash tabs. Goodness.

iron thistle Oct 7, 2021, 6:21 PM

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I went through my unique and sets tabs to get rid of duplicates and now I just filter them as I collect. If it isn't better stats and I don't need multiple, vendor it.

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Exalted items just get dumped, though. Who KNOWS when those might be useful?

random dock Oct 7, 2021, 6:22 PM

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same I just replace my old ones with better rolled ones

iron thistle Oct 7, 2021, 6:22 PM

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Definitely going to need to hold onto that bow with poison and stun chance.

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Coral Wands with ignite chance and exalted melee physical damage.

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Hopefully the legendary item system makes better use of those rolls. It's supposed to do something cool with exalted items.

thin iron Oct 7, 2021, 6:24 PM

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I'm looking forward to it, yes.

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Honestly the post's part about changing crafting surprised me.

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I think it says a lot about this game's devs that they looked at this system and went 'sometimes it feels bad so we should still work on it'.

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The single most encouraging part of this game - though, don't get me wrong, it's also really good - is the general attitude of the developers.

random dock Oct 7, 2021, 6:25 PM

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thin iron I think it says a lot about this game's devs that they looked at this system and...

yeah I feel like crying in a corner sometimes with some crafts 🥲

thin iron Oct 7, 2021, 6:26 PM

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random dock yeah I feel like crying in a corner sometimes with some crafts 🥲

Granted, but it's leagues ahead of the entire genre, is more what I meant. Not denying that sometimes things go horribly wrong.

random dock Oct 7, 2021, 6:27 PM

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oh yeah I meant when you barely started crafting on an item like crafting the 3rd mod and boom breaks

thin iron Oct 7, 2021, 6:27 PM

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Basically, if something is a hassle, out of player control, or not explained enough - already less common than in much of the genre - it's an oversight they're going to fix. As opposed to an actual ideological position that came from doing all-white-item Diablo 2 runs or whatever, which- much as I love those games, comes up a lot with the Path of Exile and Grim Dawn teams.

random dock Oct 7, 2021, 6:27 PM

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I do really like the crafting system though

thin iron Oct 7, 2021, 6:27 PM

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So LE is a good game but I can also just sit back and trust it to get a lot better.

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(As a bonus, it's also easier to recommend to friends, because this is usually a pretty inaccessible genre.)

random dock Oct 7, 2021, 6:28 PM

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yeah I know it will get better 😎 and its already really good

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YES thats a big one its really easy to get into

mystic sleet Oct 7, 2021, 6:30 PM

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pseudo dust right click the tab name and you can move them to different categories

ty I will try it out

thin iron Oct 7, 2021, 6:30 PM

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At the same time, for someone who's been in the genre longer, I appreciate that the moment to moment gameplay tends to be a bit more intricate, with five skills (that are usually a bit more detailed than fire-and-forget buffs or movement skills).

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Closer to the Grim Dawn end of combat complexity, let's say.

iron thistle Oct 7, 2021, 6:48 PM

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thin iron (As a bonus, it's also easier to recommend to friends, because this is usually a...

100%. All of my friends look at PoE and are like nahhhhhhh I don't want playing a game to be a job.

thin iron Oct 7, 2021, 6:50 PM

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I like PoE, but it's also a fantastic example of the corrosive influence that free-to-play/'games as a service' design has on a game even if there's nothing you need to pay money for (stash tabs are... at least not a major expense, but even if you ignore that).

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Though I now realise you meant sheer opaque complexity and not the way the league structure makes some harsh demands on people's time.

woeful parcel Oct 7, 2021, 6:53 PM

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Indeed

brittle crest Oct 7, 2021, 7:04 PM

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Do we know what order defenses are applied in? Dodge, Block, Armor Resist %s?

quartz dagger Oct 7, 2021, 7:21 PM

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Is there a recommended monolith to farm the devotion necklace? Or would any of the 70+ ones work?

random dock Oct 7, 2021, 7:31 PM

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quartz dagger Is there a recommended monolith to farm the devotion necklace? Or would any of t...

Age of Winter

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https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/timelines here is a list of the timelines and it tells what echo exclusive rewards they have

Last Epoch Info

Monolith Timelines

quartz dagger Oct 7, 2021, 7:33 PM

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alright then I'm in the correct one. Thank you very much

frank wasp Oct 7, 2021, 8:02 PM

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thin iron I have about 7 in use now and I _desperately_ need to organise them rather than ...

future you just needs to make it the problem of future future you
win win

thin iron Oct 7, 2021, 8:04 PM

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I suppose that does suit all the time travel themes at least. Sort of.

balmy current Oct 7, 2021, 9:06 PM

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brittle crest Do we know what order defenses are applied in? Dodge, Block, Armor Resist %s?

Dodge then everything else. The order after dodge is irrelevant as they're all % based.

woeful parcel Oct 7, 2021, 9:09 PM

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What's block cap btw

balmy current Oct 7, 2021, 9:10 PM

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100%

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DR from block is capped at 85%

woeful parcel Oct 7, 2021, 9:12 PM

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Hmm fair

wary light Oct 7, 2021, 9:34 PM

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Does blood reverie proc when I kill my own skeletons? I'm assuming so.

woeful parcel Oct 7, 2021, 9:36 PM

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The chance to ignite/bleed/poison on hit for weapons

Is that local or is that a global chance on hit

brittle atlas Oct 7, 2021, 9:37 PM

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all item modifiers in LE are global

brittle atlas Oct 7, 2021, 9:38 PM

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wary light Does blood reverie proc when I kill my own skeletons? I'm assuming so.

what is Blood Reverie?

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oh, the Marrow Shards node? I would assume yes

woeful parcel Oct 7, 2021, 9:45 PM

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brittle atlas all item modifiers in LE are global

Thanks

lament nest Oct 8, 2021, 3:17 AM

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Does "Health on Kill" affix apply if a minion kill an enemy?

iron thistle Oct 8, 2021, 6:04 AM

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It shouldn't. Minion stats and player stats are entirely separate.

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Now, if the minion inflicts a dot and the dot kills things, I think that counts as your kill.

static glacier Oct 8, 2021, 6:30 AM

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Anyway life on kill is a bonus best case. So not build around it

thin iron Oct 8, 2021, 8:26 AM

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Say, are there plans for more things using void damage than VK or a certain Last Ruin set? ...Are there more uses for it now that I'm just not aware of?

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(I know we don't know anything about unreleased classes so that's a big question mark. Though, it wouldn't shock me coming from Warlock or anything.)

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Just struck me that it's a pretty heavily supported damage type that has a fairly narrow range of users.

hollow socket Oct 8, 2021, 8:35 AM

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From what I've read here, the devs don't care as much about that as about a coherent image of a mastery class. So it's unlikely there'll be any void skills on existing masteries, but we don't know much about the missing ones yet.

frosty mirage Oct 8, 2021, 10:54 AM

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Mike has also discussed how they like each class having 3-4 “core” damage types with peripheral skills that could possibly support another damage type. This is also where other uniques can come into play and help support those peripheral damage types into something viable.

Arguably the best example of this is the Bowmage build that uses Reign of Winter and Mourningfrost to create a cold MM when generally rogue is fire, poison, physical. That or Lightning Shuriken build with Fulgurite Shards

Primalist is another good example with Tornado and Earthquake having fire conversion nodes along with say Maehlins Hubris that converts bleed chance to ignite chance

cosmic surge Oct 8, 2021, 12:48 PM

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hey guys! My computer got stopped worked by black out yesterday, and my char is gone 🤷‍♂️ What should I do? Cry a bit and start leveling new one?

warped dew Oct 8, 2021, 1:07 PM

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Mh weird

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LE should have steam cloud by default

cosmic surge Oct 8, 2021, 1:08 PM

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well, I see other characters, that one I played before shutdown is gone.

woeful parcel Oct 8, 2021, 1:09 PM

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Sorry to hear that bud

random dock Oct 8, 2021, 2:09 PM

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cosmic surge well, I see other characters, that one I played before shutdown is gone.

I had a power outage yesterday and cause of that my loot filter is completely broken 😅

fixed it by deleting all the filters I made (the loot filters I had got corrupted) so no backing them up before deleting won't work.

TLDR: I have to remake my filters from scratch

cosmic surge Oct 8, 2021, 2:10 PM

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random dock I had a power outage yesterday and cause of that my loot filter is completely br...

I'm a bit scared to try to delete all other characters in hope that one become alive 😅

random dock Oct 8, 2021, 2:11 PM

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I thought my mage was done for too LOL I was like oh NOOOOOOOOOOOO but thankfully hes still alive 😂

iron thistle Oct 8, 2021, 2:18 PM

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random dock I had a power outage yesterday and cause of that my loot filter is completely br...

The LE build planner does a pretty decent job of setting those up. You can upload your character data, make any changes to affixes based on what you want in the future, and then copy the entire item filter over.

random dock Oct 8, 2021, 2:19 PM

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I know but I like making my own 😄

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I will use it for the other chars though since it is really useful but on my mage I want it to be my own haha

iron thistle Oct 8, 2021, 2:22 PM

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Fair enough.

frosty mirage Oct 8, 2021, 2:33 PM

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I use my own as well, easy enough to set-up though it just takes a bit of time wading through all the affixes lol

random dock Oct 8, 2021, 2:43 PM

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frosty mirage I use my own as well, easy enough to set-up though it just takes a bit of time w...

yeah I always make my own and I do hope they implement that highly requested feature of only seeing affixes that can be applied to those bases 😄

lone flume Oct 8, 2021, 3:08 PM

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Does Strength (or other mainstat) buff Holy Trail node of Javelin?

jovial shale Oct 8, 2021, 3:16 PM

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lone flume Does Strength (or other mainstat) buff Holy Trail node of Javelin?

if you press alt on the holy trail icon you can see what scales its damage. But no, str doesnt scale it

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Are scepters maces? or are 1-handed blunt weapons maces?

balmy current Oct 8, 2021, 3:17 PM

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jovial shale Are scepters maces? or are 1-handed blunt weapons maces?

Maces are 1h blunt weapons.

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sceptres are sceptres.

maiden flume Oct 8, 2021, 3:20 PM

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balmy current Oct 8, 2021, 3:20 PM

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No, don't think so, just faster casts.

maiden flume Oct 8, 2021, 3:21 PM

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zealous sigil Oct 8, 2021, 3:30 PM

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when should, in theory, come the 8.4 update? end of the month?

frosty mirage Oct 8, 2021, 3:34 PM

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zealous sigil when should, in theory, come the 8.4 update? end of the month?

Probably not with the last patch only a month old. My guess would probably be early December? I believe the update did mention it was coming this year

random dock Oct 8, 2021, 3:34 PM

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yes it coming this year

balmy current Oct 8, 2021, 3:42 PM

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Likely 2-3 months after 0.8.3 (early September) and given the amount being added probably the back end of that timeframe

zealous sigil Oct 8, 2021, 5:16 PM

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ty guys

quasi hatch Oct 8, 2021, 5:30 PM

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Real question is what's the likelihood of 0.8.4 becoming 0.9.0 instead? eyes

balmy current Oct 8, 2021, 5:31 PM

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Nil

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None of their MP update posts have sounded like "we're pretty much there, we just need to polish it up a bit before letting you street urchins at it".

woeful parcel Oct 8, 2021, 5:40 PM

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street urchins

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lmao

balmy current Oct 8, 2021, 5:49 PM

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Or street starfish if you played a certain discworld game back in the day

quartz dagger Oct 8, 2021, 6:07 PM

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... anyone else have that happening to them?

balmy current Oct 8, 2021, 6:08 PM

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Yeah, that happens.

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If you die at the same time as you get healed sometimes LE gets a bit confused.

thin iron Oct 9, 2021, 12:42 AM

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If anyone knows/would be willing to answer... what does rarity affect? Drop rates for unique/set items, I know, and specifically what unique/set items drop even from within a boss's drop pool.

Anything else, though? Types of affixes that show up, whether on items or in shards, affix tiers, base items, anything? I feel like it's affected affix tiers at minimum, but that could also be a function of area level since I'm tackling harder timelines.

random dock Oct 9, 2021, 1:11 AM

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thin iron If anyone knows/would be willing to answer... what does rarity affect? Drop rate...

thin iron Oct 9, 2021, 1:15 AM

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random dock

Why I didn't think to check the game guide is beyond me. Thank you, though.

random dock Oct 9, 2021, 1:17 AM

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thin iron Why I didn't think to check the game guide is beyond me. Thank you, though.

yeah hahaha a lot of people dont check it XD also check out corruption 😄

thin iron Oct 9, 2021, 1:24 AM

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random dock yeah hahaha a lot of people dont check it XD also check out corruption 😄

I usually check the game guide, just.. forgot this time. I do know how corruption works but I appreciate the suggestion, thanks.

thin iron Oct 9, 2021, 1:55 AM

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What's my best bet for leveling in a hurry?

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I'm level 88 staring down empowered timelines, so if there's a quicker way than doing rifts...

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(Mostly I'm unsure if arena is a better bet.)

austere ember Oct 9, 2021, 2:20 AM

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Nope, just spamming empowered monoliths is probably what you want to reach max level

thin iron Oct 9, 2021, 2:22 AM

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Understood, thank you.

safe surge Oct 9, 2021, 3:06 AM

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Where/how do i unlock blessings Lv100?

austere ember Oct 9, 2021, 3:07 AM

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Empowered monoliths

safe surge Oct 9, 2021, 3:07 AM

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austere ember Empowered monoliths

What's that lol.

austere ember Oct 9, 2021, 3:08 AM

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Basically, each monolith timeline has a level 100 version, you unlock it by completing all three level 90 timelines

safe surge Oct 9, 2021, 3:10 AM

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austere ember Basically, each monolith timeline has a level 100 version, you unlock it by comp...

Just completing 3/3 lv90 timelines? I did and nothing.

austere ember Oct 9, 2021, 3:11 AM

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go there

safe surge Oct 9, 2021, 3:13 AM

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Ty 👍 💯

static glacier Oct 9, 2021, 8:01 AM

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The unknown Island 👀

woeful parcel Oct 9, 2021, 1:12 PM

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Hmm leveling with shield throw, feel like getting one of the "cooldown is done once shield returns" nodes is pretty much required unless you have another skill for constant clear lol

lone flume Oct 9, 2021, 1:28 PM

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Same as with Javelin (Holy Trail node)

woeful parcel Oct 9, 2021, 1:29 PM

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Makes sense, I'll remember that

lavish dew Oct 9, 2021, 2:27 PM

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Anyone know how exactly does frequency work on stuff like for example the tornado skill's lightning proc nodes ?

hollow socket Oct 9, 2021, 2:39 PM

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woeful parcel Hmm leveling with shield throw, feel like getting one of the "cooldown is done o...

If you want to use it as your single-target as well then you'll need that. Would hammer throw fit into your build?

balmy current Oct 9, 2021, 2:40 PM

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lavish dew Anyone know how exactly does frequency work on stuff like for example the tornad...

New time between procs = base time / (1 + frequency %).

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So 1 point in Frequent Lightning would reduce the time between lightnings from 2s to (2 / 1.35) 1.48s

hollow socket Oct 9, 2021, 2:41 PM

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Which means you can't get it to 0, too.

balmy current Oct 9, 2021, 2:41 PM

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correct

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Max points in that node would get it down to 2 / (1+1.4) = 0.83s

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X / (1 + Y) is a common formula LE uses for cooldowns & frequencies.

woeful parcel Oct 9, 2021, 2:45 PM

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hollow socket If you want to use it as your single-target as well then you'll need that. Would...

I think so I probably should have kept leveling with hammer throw for story and specialized sheild charge later instead

hollow socket Oct 9, 2021, 2:46 PM

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Hammer throw has decent boss damage if you don't remove the return.

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But you can spec the node for shield throw if you pass by it anyways for your build.

balmy current Oct 9, 2021, 2:51 PM

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Orbiting Hammers do an awful lot of damage to large mobs since they can hit it multiple times.

woeful parcel Oct 9, 2021, 3:12 PM

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balmy current Orbiting Hammers do an awful lot of damage to large mobs since they can hit it m...

Yeah it's actually impressive

hollow socket Oct 9, 2021, 4:02 PM

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balmy current Orbiting Hammers do an awful lot of damage to large mobs since they can hit it m...

Certainly, but that's a full build. Returning hammers are decent without investment.

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Well save for base throwing damage, but shield throw needs that anyways.

woeful parcel Oct 9, 2021, 4:03 PM

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Indeed I'm starting back up shortly

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Gonna test one thing, if shield bash doesn't have a cooldown does it still give +5 ricochets

balmy current Oct 9, 2021, 4:06 PM

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hollow socket Certainly, but that's a full build. Returning hammers are decent without investm...

True

languid elbow Oct 9, 2021, 5:11 PM

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If a skill passive gives +200% melee bleed chance with 5/5 ranks, what does that mean? It's guaranteed to cause 2 stacks per hit?

amber notch Oct 9, 2021, 5:18 PM

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Yes

languid elbow Oct 9, 2021, 5:22 PM

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Thanks!

frank wasp Oct 9, 2021, 9:15 PM

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woeful parcel Hmm leveling with shield throw, feel like getting one of the "cooldown is done o...

i dont see those nodes

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waiit

woeful parcel Oct 9, 2021, 9:16 PM

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frank wasp i dont see those nodes

Bottom one
Goes mana cost down

frank wasp Oct 9, 2021, 9:16 PM

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foound iit

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ii cant see not takiing the no cD node

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if its just a shield throw build

woeful parcel Oct 9, 2021, 9:17 PM

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Yeah now that I've played with it more

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I agree

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But I think I'm going freeze this for now, then relevel a forge guard as they honestly seem like the best for it. I don't really like void knight with it so far but I'll still bring this to what my concept actually was.

frank wasp Oct 9, 2021, 9:19 PM

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i think iive seen in chat pally being "the best"

woeful parcel Oct 9, 2021, 9:19 PM

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Hmm interesting, haven't don't that

frank wasp Oct 9, 2021, 9:20 PM

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forge guard seems the most fun, so thats what im goin for

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when i make a shield toss build

woeful parcel Oct 9, 2021, 9:20 PM

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Yeah can get manifest armor to help out too, as it can bounce off him

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XD

frank wasp Oct 9, 2021, 9:20 PM

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can get manifest armor if u go pally

woeful parcel Oct 9, 2021, 9:21 PM

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Yeah right? It's cost 15 iirc

frank wasp Oct 9, 2021, 9:21 PM

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im goiin forge guard for ring of shields, which will synergize with lunge and shield bash

woeful parcel Oct 9, 2021, 9:21 PM

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Ring of shields is the one

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Yeah

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Oh the shield bash no cd+ extra ricochet does work

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So you can get +5 each sheild bash

frank wasp Oct 9, 2021, 9:23 PM

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yea, and shield bash can be cast when yyoou lunge at something

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and ring of shields forms a bigger walll for shield bash aoe

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its gonna be fun

woeful parcel Oct 9, 2021, 9:23 PM

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Lol

frank wasp Oct 9, 2021, 9:24 PM

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so many debuffs/buffs and effects happening at once

lavish dew Oct 10, 2021, 6:51 AM

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balmy current So 1 point in Frequent Lightning would reduce the time between lightnings from 2...

Thank you, I am currently making a lightning caster shaman using that and the storm orb node and wanted to understand exactly how much of a dps increase those are (a lot)

jovial shale Oct 10, 2021, 10:17 AM

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does CDR works for CDs on the passive tree?

balmy current Oct 10, 2021, 10:24 AM

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No

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CDR only works for skills

woeful parcel Oct 10, 2021, 3:43 PM

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Is lava burst considered another hit, on top of the shield throw?

So it could theoretically apply a stack on the enemies it hits as well?

balmy current Oct 10, 2021, 4:02 PM

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woeful parcel Is lava burst considered another hit, on top of the shield throw? So it could t...

Yes

woeful parcel Oct 10, 2021, 4:22 PM

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Okay cool

broken pagoda Oct 10, 2021, 6:22 PM

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guys the archmage passive point in mage says "trippled if you have 200 max mana" does that mean if i have 200 or more? or need to have exact 200 ?

woeful parcel Oct 10, 2021, 6:25 PM

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I'd imagine 200 or more, that'd be so rough

broken pagoda Oct 10, 2021, 6:27 PM

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yeah its my guess aswll but want to make sure

balmy current Oct 10, 2021, 6:30 PM

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Or more.

broken pagoda Oct 10, 2021, 6:30 PM

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thanks

maiden flume Oct 10, 2021, 7:16 PM

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One message removed from a suspended account.

fierce kraken Oct 10, 2021, 7:33 PM

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maiden flume One message removed from a suspended account.

kinda depends which skills. Crystal sword are what you are looking for generally.

maiden flume Oct 10, 2021, 7:36 PM

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One message removed from a suspended account.

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One message removed from a suspended account.

quasi pier Oct 10, 2021, 9:42 PM

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Does this count also for shields expiring?

glad maple Oct 10, 2021, 11:12 PM

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hello does the avalanche boulder casted from the halvar set is modified by the avalanche skill tree ?

mortal sparrow Oct 11, 2021, 1:56 AM

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If I start a monolith run and log out, does it reset my progress?

brittle atlas Oct 11, 2021, 2:00 AM

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You’d need to redo whatever given echo you’re in, but stability/quest state is saved

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Your web, stability amounts, quest completions, etc. don’t go away if you log out

mortal sparrow Oct 11, 2021, 2:17 AM

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oh neat, so essentially you can keep doing echoes in the same timeline?

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and if you want a higher level timeline you just start working on those, but otherwise you can keep progress on the lower level ones?

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hmm I may need to just play more to figure it out lol

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I just finished the level 58 one and did the 3 quest echoes and got a blessing - so then it returned me to the front

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so now it looks like it reset my progress more or less but kept the echoes i completed previously, as compelted

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austere ember Oct 11, 2021, 2:31 AM

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mortal sparrow I just finished the level 58 one and did the 3 quest echoes and got a blessing -...

Each loop of three quests you do makes you kill the specific boss of the monolith and allows you to choose from a pool of blessings (there's also a different boss that appears on a special echo that can reset your web when defeated)
Once you complete all three lvl 90 monoliths, it unlocks 'Legendary' for all monoliths,

mortal sparrow Oct 11, 2021, 2:32 AM

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okay so I have a bit of grinding to go just having completed one sweep of 58

austere ember Oct 11, 2021, 2:32 AM

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Yup, my advice would be to keep pushing the higher level monoliths as soon as you unlock them, even if you're under the zone level

brittle atlas Oct 11, 2021, 2:35 AM

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Yeah, you should generally not need to farm any of the lower level ones

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Just progress to the highest level one you can basically

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So from 58 to 68 or whatever is now

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Main goal is to just rush stability for quest echoes to move to the next timeline ASAP so you can get into empowered content

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Normal monoliths don’t have any carry over into their empowered counterparts, so I would generally avoid investing any more time than absolutely required in normal

lavish dew Oct 11, 2021, 6:17 AM

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Any way to check the exact stats of tempest, storm orb and hailstorm skills on tempest strike ? Maybe a mistake but I can't see them ingame or in lastepochtools/tunklabs. I wanna see if they scale with attunement and their added dmg effectiveness

brittle atlas Oct 11, 2021, 6:41 AM

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they all scale with the attunement and strength scaling of tempest strike, as they are subskills and thus inherit their parent skill's attribute scaling

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base damage-wise...I have no idea

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that kind of stuff is pretty difficult to find if tunklabs or le tools aren't showing it.

lavish dew Oct 11, 2021, 6:57 AM

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Yeah I wanna see if its better to get more NW proc chance to proc more tempest or just get the flat dmg to LB

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If its 150% added dmg effectiveness same as the other skills then its a def must have

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Lightning blast feels pretty underwhelming even with those points

fringe birch Oct 11, 2021, 7:44 AM

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lavish dew Any way to check the exact stats of tempest, storm orb and hailstorm skills on t...

Storm Orb
Tags: Physical, Spell
Base Damage: 8 Physical
Added Damage Scaling: 50%

Hailstorm
Tags: Physical, Cold, Spell, DoT, Attunement
Base Damage: 15 Physical, 15 Cold
Added Damage Scaling: 150%
Interval: 0.33s

Tempest
Tags: Lightning, Cold, Spell, DoT, Buff, Attunement
Base Damage: 9 cold, 9 lightning
Added Damage Scaling: 90%
Interval: 0.3s

lavish dew Oct 11, 2021, 7:47 AM

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fringe birch **Storm Orb** Tags: Physical, Spell Base Damage: 8 Physical Added Damage Scaling...

Thank you so much!

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Hailstorm looks spicy

thin iron Oct 11, 2021, 10:06 AM

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For rift mod purposes, how does the game define 'high health enemies'?

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Does it just mean... not low health, as in above 35%?

bronze ocean Oct 11, 2021, 11:13 AM

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above 65%

lavish dew Oct 11, 2021, 11:39 AM

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fringe birch **Storm Orb** Tags: Physical, Spell Base Damage: 8 Physical Added Damage Scaling...

Also I'm guessing tempest does not count as a hit but the other two do

fringe birch Oct 11, 2021, 11:41 AM

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lavish dew Also I'm guessing tempest does not count as a hit but the other two do

Storm Orb is hit, other 2 aren't

lavish dew Oct 11, 2021, 12:15 PM

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fringe birch Storm Orb is hit, other 2 aren't

Oh right DoT tag on hailstorm

pastel garnet Oct 11, 2021, 3:59 PM

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does anyone know what the explode node in Bone Curse scale off?

balmy current Oct 11, 2021, 4:07 PM

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Likely spell/phys/int

woeful parcel Oct 11, 2021, 4:10 PM

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That'd be my guess

pastel garnet Oct 11, 2021, 4:58 PM

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flat damage? not scaled on enemy hp?

brittle atlas Oct 11, 2021, 4:59 PM

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Correct

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I don’t know of anything in the game that scales damage off enemy hp off the top of my head

balmy current Oct 11, 2021, 5:00 PM

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brittle atlas I don’t know of anything in the game that scales damage off enemy hp off the top...

Nope, me either.

woeful parcel Oct 11, 2021, 5:00 PM

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Yeah it's more of a "corpse explosion usually equals max hp of monsters"

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But last epoch that isn't the case

pastel garnet Oct 11, 2021, 5:04 PM

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probably a smarqt decision given how enemy hp scales with corruption

woeful parcel Oct 11, 2021, 5:05 PM

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Tell that to harvest mobs in Poe I mean 👀

brittle atlas Oct 11, 2021, 5:06 PM

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Honestly the overall hp scaling of enemies in LE is pretty low. Even at high corruption most normal enemies only have a few thousand hp

pastel garnet Oct 11, 2021, 5:07 PM

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do i need overcapped res for arena?

brittle atlas Oct 11, 2021, 5:07 PM

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Like doing ~570 this patch to farm gaspar, most normal enemies seemed to have maybe 3-4K hp

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Not really

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You might want a slight lightning or poison overcap

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But not much

woeful parcel Oct 11, 2021, 5:08 PM

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The resistance penetration thing is an Interesting concept

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Like per level of area

brittle atlas Oct 11, 2021, 5:08 PM

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And definitely not enough to sacrifice hp suffixes for

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Yeah, the resistance system in LE makes being undercapped super low impact

pastel garnet Oct 11, 2021, 5:09 PM

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i got 2k hp and a lot of ward from zombies and skeleton exploding might be good enough to try arena now

brittle atlas Oct 11, 2021, 5:09 PM

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Compared to the modifiers in monolith or just raw enemy scaling in arena

pastel garnet Oct 11, 2021, 5:10 PM

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are arena rewards better then mono?

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well they kind of balance the game around 0 res which is much better than trying to balance around cap i really like that

brittle atlas Oct 11, 2021, 5:12 PM

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Arena’s only real reward is the leaderboard

pastel garnet Oct 11, 2021, 5:12 PM

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no actual reward?

brittle atlas Oct 11, 2021, 5:12 PM

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The xp is slightly better than monos at lower levels, but the loot is trash

woeful parcel Oct 11, 2021, 5:12 PM

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Hardly

brittle atlas Oct 11, 2021, 5:12 PM

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And empowered monos will match or beat the xp

woeful parcel Oct 11, 2021, 5:13 PM

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It's a testing ground for builds in my mind

brittle atlas Oct 11, 2021, 5:13 PM

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The game is definitely balanced around capped res tho, you’re just not punished that heavily for being uncapped

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Like having 0% resist in PoE means you’re taking 4x more damage versus 75% res, while in LE in 0% resist is only taking 1.75x damage versus 75%

pastel garnet Oct 11, 2021, 5:14 PM

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well yes but losing 25 res in games like grim dawn or POE means you take double damage

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precisely

woeful parcel Oct 11, 2021, 5:14 PM

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Exactly

brittle atlas Oct 11, 2021, 5:14 PM

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Yeah

pastel garnet Oct 11, 2021, 5:15 PM

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one more question - what does "Rare" denote in the LE item site

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i've killed the emperor of bones over 20 times and didnt get his relic

brittle atlas Oct 11, 2021, 5:15 PM

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For item rarity? It’s not an exact thing just general brackets iirc

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But emperor relic is I believe a 10% drop chance

pastel garnet Oct 11, 2021, 5:17 PM

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dang

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gonna be a while then

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and also - endurance threshold

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isnt this strictly worse than flat health added

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i mean if u are endurance capped +100 health is 112 health times any multiplicative health modifiers you might have

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100 endurance is 160hp

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no worse its 60hp

woeful parcel Oct 11, 2021, 5:19 PM

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thinkHmm

frosty mirage Oct 11, 2021, 5:30 PM

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Right now, going high HP with leech is the way to go.

ET is in a tough position right now since it serves as the sliding scale for such a powerful defense layer with Endurance. So you would obviously want significant investment to help offset that. However right now it’s just not enough to make it worthwhile in my opinion

brittle atlas Oct 11, 2021, 5:30 PM

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hp is always better than threshold unless you have less than like...32% inc hp

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which should never the case

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outside of a few very specific setups

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like death seal lich favors threshold up to 35% of their max hp

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and damage taken to mana mages

pastel garnet Oct 11, 2021, 5:31 PM

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i mean your endurance threshold already scales on your max hp

frosty mirage Oct 11, 2021, 5:31 PM

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I’m trying to think of a few of those, outside of Lich

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To an extent. I’m talking high ET builds that are designed to activate Endurance at much higher health (I.e. 80%)

woeful parcel Oct 11, 2021, 5:32 PM

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That would be my understanding as well yeah

frosty mirage Oct 11, 2021, 5:39 PM

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Like could you imagine a rogue with high dodge (or go GB), with endurance kicking in at 1800/2500 health and leech?

pastel garnet Oct 11, 2021, 5:40 PM

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well... honestly rogue feels like the worst class from all i've played its the only one i cant run empowered monoliths without shitting my pants

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there is like 0 resistance support in its passive and 0 hp on his idols and DW is 15% less hp...

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its a glass cannon that has to do melee and doesnt really outdamage other classes

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its like POE melee 😮

austere ember Oct 11, 2021, 5:43 PM

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Their EHP is actually pretty high (the highest with the right setup), but they're definitely more gear dependant

brittle atlas Oct 11, 2021, 5:45 PM

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yeah, rogue has the highest potential ehp of any class in the game atm

frosty mirage Oct 11, 2021, 5:45 PM

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They definitely shift the resistance support towards their main defensive mechanics (dodge/GB) with shrouds like dusk shrouds. I’m still leveling my BD but with leech they feel really good

brittle atlas Oct 11, 2021, 5:45 PM

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rogue has access to a lot of unique damage reductions that stack

frosty mirage Oct 11, 2021, 5:46 PM

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MM is just plain fun and I absolutely love that mastery

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Plus Decoy, even after the nerf, is such a great defensive tool with offensive punch

austere ember Oct 11, 2021, 5:46 PM

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The Crit Vuln and Crit Avoidance node that follows it in the Marksman tree are BONKERS