❔┃ask-the-community

[pseudo dust]

Beastmaster could be both

But, as cool as the new primalist models are, I'm more excited for sentinel stuff

[stiff stone]

I am not sure if this is the appropriate place to ask, but was wondering if anyone might have a recommendation on an easy to follow build-guide for the new patch tomorrow? I've looked at a few builds but it looks like you need to be very knowledgeable about crafting/end-game in order to make them really work and I don't have that knowledge yet. Just want to jump in once the patch drops tomorrow and have some fun without having to spend dozens of hours trying to learn how to craft a single item.

[green tendon]

LE is pretty forgiving, you won’t hit any massive walls even without a build guide

[brittle atlas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gWE6xW8Xlw

not a build guide, but a good general one that you can apply to almost anything you play gear-wise

[stiff stone]

ok thanks, I was looking at something like https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/lizardirl-800-arena-wave-shield-throw-build/43504 but some comments indicate it can be quite hard to get working to its potential

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/shield-throw-paladin-s-tier-build-guide-0-8-2i/41946 seems a little more approachable, but not sure how the new patch will impact it

[hollow socket]

The patch notes will help you understand how these builds are impacted once they're released - sentinel seems to receive changes to the tree.

[stiff stone]

I always struggle with choosing a build because I am more or less helpless without a guide

[hollow socket]

A first step to making your own build is deciding "which skills can I scale together" and "what defense do I want".

This way you'll find that, for example, the acolyte has Spirit Plague and Drain Life, both of which are necrotic damage over time.

Great, you can scale those with a variety of item mods!

Infernal Shade, however, is fire damage over time. You would leave it out of your build because using it will drastically reduce the amount of useful item mods/bases for you.

[stiff stone]

tbh, i dont think i will ever have the mental capacity to be good at making a build. it's one of the main reasons i quit MTG, i will never be able to remember every card that i could be going against

i know LE is supposed to be more approachable, but i've been trained to feel like anything that isnt top tier isnt worth the time and thats a hard mindset to break

[dense remnant]

everything is top tier

when you use a skill that feels good, put it in your build

all you need to do

[stiff stone]

maybe it's subjective, but the fact that builds are broken out by S/A/B tiers makes me feel like S tier is the only thing i want to look at

[dense remnant]

i mean, the top tier build thsi patch is from a broken mechanic

if you want to play the best, all you're going tobe doing is playing stuff that isnt intended

[green tendon]

Are you having fun? Then do that. Are you not? Look for different things to do to have fun.

[dense remnant]

everything in the game currently can be done with basically any build

[marsh maple]

well

looks at infernal shade

[dense remnant]

unless you're planning to push arena really far, or push to 500 corruption or more, you'refine

infernal shade can get through empowered monos

[marsh maple]

now do you mean painfully or

😄

yes painfully

[dense remnant]

and its not like you'd only run 1 skill

thats a pointless argument :p

[marsh maple]

Infernal Shades best use is slapped on a solo minion usually

otherwise its just a much worse spirit plague

[stiff stone]

i just dont recognize synergies/interactions very well so it feels 'easier' to let someone else who's smarter spend the time identifying those interactions and i can spend more time just playing and trying to get the items needed

[dense remnant]

the game doesnt makeit hard to have synergy is the thing

if you use a skill and go 'oh that feels really fun' you jus thave to hover over the tooltip and look at its tags

any other skills that share any of those tags, that's a synergy

[stiff stone]

interesting, maybe i will just wing it with a new char tomorrow

[dense remnant]

you dont have to look at any numbers for anything honestly, and if you decide to fine tune and optimise what you've ended up with, well if you've played with those skills yourself a bunch (so probably clicked on various nodes in the skill tree) you'll have a much better sense of it, without haviing to have done anything but play the game

I definititely get the mentality and feeling of wanting a guide, especially because of how other arpg's have been designed, but Last Epoch really does do an awful lot to make it very intuitive and simple to put something together

you dont need to think about much at all to do it

The hardest part is picking what you want to be your main damaging skill xD

[stiff stone]

i guess the other side of it is having the knowledge of what items can do, like what uniques can help or what stats are actually possible etc.

[dense remnant]

yeah thats definitely the more tricky bit atm, and honestly i'djust recommend going to: https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/

Then if you search for something you think would be neat for your build (say you're doing a physical thing, search physical) you can then just look at uniques that do something with physical

[stiff stone]

maybe ill try the new javelin ability, cause i think id like to go sentinel

[dense remnant]

for affixes, you can just do the same, but click on basic, and scroll to the bottom to see what exist for that stat/thing

yeah going sentinel definitely seems good

they'll be a lot of people trying out various sentiniel things, so you'll easily be able to get answers

and everyone will be trying slightly different things probably

[stiff stone]

just wish it was friday already lol

[dense remnant]

yuuuuuuup

just, desperate for some patch notes

[stiff stone]

do they usually come the day of the patch? or before?

[dense remnant]

last time it was the day before, and everyone was very happy about it, so i think the gneral expectation is we get them today. But obviously anything could happen that delays them to tommorow closer to the patch

cant really do patch notes until the patch is finalised, so it probably puts a bit of pressure on them getting the patch ready; or at least having every change done/decided

[stiff stone]

nice, i wonder how big it will be

gb wise

pretty cool though, haven't been excited for a patch like this in a bit

[thin canopy]

when is the reset time again .. i always forget the day reset ..

[raw fern]

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/faq-major-patch-releases/43516

[raw fern]

simple answer is never

If you want to play mp you need to create new char

same for 1.0, but current chars won't deleted

[thin canopy]

do you got any idea how big a problem that is for me?? not . i liek makign new chars .. .. oh wait .. no acces to the chest .. yeah clean sheet ..

[raw fern]

I play poe every league, so yeah

[thin canopy]

and not HC so .. start over .. wheeee oke i am gona miss the old stuff

hehe i played often POE aswell d3 .. so

[raw fern]

boop

[thin canopy]

no thats third crisis . or swpt .//

• grin *

[stiff stone]

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/1-to-75-sentinel-to-paladin-shield-throw-0-8-1i/36803

If I used the loot filter from this guide to level a new Paladin with Javelin, is there any chance the loot filter will hide things I want that are new with the patch?

If the answer is yes, could anyone suggest a generic sort of filter? Or should I just go without a filter

[green tendon]

There's definitely a risk with using old filters in a new patch, especially if it's built around the paradigm of "Hide everything, then show what you want", because the new stuff are unlikely to be included in the existing show rules

I'd personally just go for a very simple filter to start with, just hiding things you definitely don't want, while waiting for someone to make you a specific one

Unless you wanna tinker with it yourself

[stiff stone]

i dont even know where to begin with making my own, where might I find a simple filter to start with?

[dense remnant]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPlG0BT-oaw&ab_channel=Binashole

[green tendon]

Dang it Claire, I had just gotten that into my clipboard

[stiff stone]

awesome thank you, gonna dive into this now. want everything ready so i can jump straight in tomorrow and play, hopefully it wont take me too long to download

the hard part is i dont know what my character will want so selecting affixes and such will be a challenge cause a lot of these terms are still foreign to me

[lone skiff]

hello friends i am curious as to how item changes go through after patch

if an item will no longer be able to roll an affix next patch

what happens to my current item that is already crafted

[tranquil kindle]

It normally keeps the affix, but it can vary depending on the specific change. Did you have a particular item in mind?

[lone skiff]

im not sure im having a hard time searching the patch notes for key words again

but something simple like health regeneration on a helmet i think wass a change?

if not exactly that then something like it

as in not an affix that no longer exists like the mana gained on smite use will be changed

[tranquil kindle]

If it's an affix that still exists then by default it'll still be on the item. There are some changes where we override that and force it to change to a different affix because it keeping it would have been particularly OP, but that's fairly rare.

[lone skiff]

oh alright that's what i imagined

so it just makes a legacy item in that case

thanks

[stiff stone]

yeah after watching a couple videos on filters now i dont think i have the knowledge of what's common/uncommon or useful/not useful, but i will see if i can tinker with a filter tonight or in the morning before the patch drops. may just have to spend an hour looking at every drop for awhile 😄

[stiff stone]

gonna end up using all my playtime tomorrow working on a filter lol

[thin canopy]

oh in the new mp start-up .. we start from beginning . does this aswel mean we need to get all the tabs in chest again ?

why new filter ? cant yer export yer old filter into the new system and alter it ?

[green tendon]

The patch will introduce new items and affixes that current filters won't know about. The filters will more than likely still work, but will be missing the new affixes/base items.

[stiff stone]

this will essentially be the first new patch i've played, i only have about 5-8 hours in the game so i essentially know nothing and creating a good filter requires a fair bit of game knowledge

[thin canopy]

ah oke , then i should say .. why a filter ,, yes it be overwhelming .. and look at lots of items ..

in the new beginning i was collecting ALL stuff what could usefull for the char .. i learned rather fast . that was not gona work with the limits of the chest

[stiff stone]

yeah, i thought about just going no filter, but the few hours i have played without a filter i spend more time looking at items than playing

[thin canopy]

yeah thats the nice thign of RNG hack and slash drop loots

not enough space for all the good stuff ..

but lucky i know a phew filters how to set it .. i know i be making sure all the +skills to all class skills will be there ,., and hope i find enough runes to add the runes to my skills .. i remember that was mos of my newby money sink.. those runes to get a steady supply of pre/affixes

ofc IF i can focus of getting futher in the story where gold drops in the x K's it should be no problem

but knowing me .. ehrrrrrr

[stiff stone]

i think for the most part i will be able to figure out what affixes might be good/bad for what i want to make, but stuff like the shards and different tiers is what i really dont understand yet

[thin canopy]

higher tier is better stats aswell higher lvl required .. to have or even make ..

and safe yer guardian runes they are ver importend ,. i am always short of them

[stiff stone]

i dont even know what runes are lol

[thin canopy]

the items wha only fill 1 spot i yer backpack and easy move with 1 click to the craftingbag ,.,

all of them same time .

yer got to the part where yer could craft/ upgrade yer own gear ?

i mean add affices/ pre-fixes to items yer had

i just wonder in how many hours from now the fun starts ..

i just realy hope i can find . + to throw damage very fast in rings . shields .

[stiff stone]

this is why i usually follow guides/meta stuff, i find a lot of this to be very overwhelming and im not that smart with all these mechanics

but i want to try something different for once

[thin canopy]

yeah , TQ and GD and d3 and ( yack , PoE ) i wanted a new thingy to .. van helsing and wolcen are decent too

but in TQ i played so many of the workshop mods so got like 40-50 masteries to play with if i want

[stiff stone]

i found wolcen to be way more fun than people said, but making builds is hard

[thin canopy]

yup traving the story once is fun ,, rebuilding the city ,, well .. not as much .. but some people live for that kinda action ..

i even found logn joy in rogue empire .. with the 2 newest classes it is/ was very fun .. i still got in on my main screen

[lament nest]

Tomorrow i'm going to create my second character, if I do only the campaign quests, Would I unlock all idols?

[dense remnant]

no, you need to do some side quests (At least this is true as of now, patch comes out in 15 hours and 27 minutes, and that might change it)

[lament nest]

ok thanks!

[thin canopy]

ack means i ca start teh game 17.00 my time .. grrrr

oh well time to get zz in . and be fresh for tomorrow

[tranquil kindle]

This is still the case, but there will be more side quests that reward idol slots in chapter 9, and the total number you need to complete hasn't changed, so before you could only skip 1 idol quest, but now you can skip 4 of them.

[stone granite]

I had no idea some were skipable. I usually don't even pay attention to the quests or rewards and just do them.

[lament nest]

Let's do an exercise, Which is the optimal armour for a lvl 100 character?

[brittle atlas]

depends on the character, their class, the build, etc

but 25-30% DR is pretty free on basically everyone

[sage kestrel]

does bleed damage bypass your ward?

[marsh maple]

no @sage kestrel

[thin canopy]

if for soem reason the ward is tempt down .. if yer get a bleed hit .. and ward gets back up .. will it take the remaining bleed ?

[dark fox]

Your ward (gained or else) will always take damage before health from bleed.

[unborn ferry]

Hi patch is live yet?

oh nvm i see it aint

[stiff stone]

i wish, im going mad over here

[unborn ferry]

is it wise to start a new character and level up already? im bored and want to play xD

[balmy current]

You can if you want.

[thin canopy]

will the new patch update kick you out of teh game when zoning area 's ?

[balmy current]

No

It's never done that

you'll only be prompted to install it when you quit the game & try & restart it after the patch has been deployed

[thin canopy]

oke ,,

[versed willow]

I would wait till update

Lots of stuff changing and it's only dropping in a couple hours

[unborn ferry]

yeah i'll finish the next area and ill stop play until the patch goes live

[fickle mica]

Was the notes weirdly worded, or did I understood this correctly: it read that basically all weapon bases got new implicits, but that feels like a huge shake-up, no? Or is "new implicits" a catch-all terms that also covers small nerfs/buffs to current implicits?

Guess I'm just a tad worried over potentially loggin in tonight with weapons which are now trash due to new (?) implicits

[brave ibex]

It is a huge shakeup, though when they reworked swords it was essentially a huge buff to the class overall. You might find that your current axe doesn't fit your build anymore, which is unfortunate, but in the long term it will make axes much more interesting (and any other classes they are changing)

[dense remnant]

you read it right, its a huge shakeup, but thats good

The weapons before these reworks their getting were basically just 'theres 1-3 that are good, everything else is filler'

[balmy current]

It's not (IMO) a huge shake up, they've reworked a few base types (wands, 1h axes, 2h axes from memory).

[dense remnant]

yeah true, huge shakeup is an over exaggeration

[fickle mica]

Sceptres are still kinda the same? 🤔

[stiff stone]

Let me rephrase the question, how reliable is tooltip DPS in LE? Is it like other arpgs where it doesnt represent your true damage?

[brave ibex]

It's not really an accurate representation, there are lots of things it doesn't consider, but better than nothing

[unborn ferry]

i want the wider hitbox for bow attacks.. sometimes i aim at enemies and the arrows go somewhere else like wtf xD

[balmy current]

It's intended to help you see the impact of changing gear, not as an accurate counter for your dps in the wild (since it can't take into account AoE or any of the conditional effects, or the damage reduction mobs get based on level).

[balmy current]

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/the-hitbox-on-detonating-arrow-feels-small-unforgiving/41898/5

[stiff stone]

Ok that's almost exactly what I wanted to know, I usually use something like tooltip dps as an indicator of whether or not a gear swap is worthwhile

[unborn ferry]

i think it's being fixed in the 0.83 patch

[balmy current]

Hopefully, if it isn't the linked post might help you understand why you miss.

[unborn ferry]

thing is im not even in the levels of detonating arrow i just the basic attacks/flurry that miss

i can facetank a small mob and my shots goes another way

[balmy current]

Yeah, it's the same thing.

[unborn ferry]

i need to practice that "center of the mob" aim thingy

thanks for the info

[tight kernel]

How long more before patch drops?

[green tendon]

3 hours

[tight kernel]

This is my first patch update and the patch note is too much for me to digest... wonder if I should just start a new solo soft core character to get a feel of things

My void knight needs a lot of rework already from the little that I read... I invested attunement to scale dmg T.T

[green tendon]

I'd make a new char yeah

[tight kernel]

And also to avoid mixing legacy items with new ones in my stash

[thin canopy]

i use the flurry of the bow as a mini gun .. spray and pray .. atleast in the channel version

[inland jetty]

how does the paladin holy aura passive nodes work ? are they active only when you activate the aura or are they always affecting the player

[trim heath]

They are active by default and then get more powerful when you activate holy aura.

[inland jetty]

😮 very nice

[cloud kindle]

I love the aura system. Do you have plans to make some more? Or did you decide not to?

[inland jetty]

seems pretty nice for multiplayer synergies, hopefully the warlock has some type of "aura" that debuff enemies as a curse or something

[acoustic thicket]

hello, why i reset skilll points i get less points than before reset it how to get them more later? to dont be with lower points to rest of game

[cloud kindle]

you receive part of your skill points and you have to relevel the others, but faster than the first time

at the end you'll have the right number of points

[acoustic thicket]

ok thanks You alot

[dusky kite]

You never lose passive points, for skill leveling you'll have to relevel but that's fairly quick. Your maximum skill level is gated by your character level, once you hit the point where you are maxed out (20 skill level available) it doesn't take long.

[eager magnet]

Seeing as they baked the other auras that didn’t have trees into the passive trees I doubt we will see more anytime@soon

[flint mural]

Flying blind here ladies and gentlemen.

My historical LE experience was 2 years ago. I appreciated the detail of weapon design, monoliths of fate, and especially crafting.

Okay question time. When is warlock anticipated release? And where can I possibly find a similar dot playing style/build. Thank you kindly.

[snow spruce]

Every class has some DoT capabilities. Maybe you'd like to try an Lich? Who knows... There is no ETA on the Warlock, Falconer, or Runemaster

[cloud kindle]

Absolutely no information about her release date

[flint mural]

Thanks much for the black and white answer.

[flint mural]

Thank you 🙂 I thought sentinel had like a dot. Been so long. Cheers!

[cloud kindle]

I can't say better, sorry, there is really no info about her release date you asked about

[flint mural]

Oh no I was just being like “thanks”! Not like; thanks tips :p

[onyx osprey]

hmm my account isn't remembered by Steam anymore 😐

[amber cedar]

What's the save game location on linux

[wraith cave]

~/.config/unity3d/Eleventh Hour Games/Last Epoch/Saves

[amber cedar]

Alright wish me luck, steam cloud saves might just have saved 220 hours of progress

[wraith cave]

doubtful tho, from what i hear everything is saved locally for LE right now

[amber cedar]

Nope, still blank

It is saved locally yeah, but it's also saved in steam cloud

This is one for devs I think

[wraith cave]

it is? i haven't heard that. yeah check with devs for sure, they can clarify for you. good luck!

[amber cedar]

It is yeah

I've downloaded them already

Just gotta rename them all and hope LE picks them up

I keep 1CHARACTER... onwards right

Can you check the save file name format @wraith cave

Especially the stash file name

[wraith cave]

i'm actually not too familiar with linux myself, i just knew about the save data location 😅 i'd definitely suggest reaching out to !support or asking in #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs. i wouldn't wanna give you wrong info

[amber cedar]

I just need the filenames, they're the same on windows 😁

[wraith cave]

not at my gaming pc right now so i'm not sure i can give you what you need 😩

[amber cedar]

Ok thanks anyway!

[thin canopy]

guess teh patch altered some idols , yer already had .. in the shared chest

[brittle atlas]

yup

was in the patch notes

[thin canopy]

to bad i didn't find javelin skills ..

oh guess my fast reading skipped that .. i was lookign at the skills .

[lament nest]

where can i see the new uniques?

[inland jetty]

interesting a multistrike node shows "attack duration +70%" wonder if thats countered by attack speed

[ruby inlet]

question, anyone else didnt receive the passive point from completing chapter 9 ? I got the prompt but didnt actually receive it?

[balmy current]

You were probably at the max number of passive points from quest rewards already.

Since they moved it to chapter 9 from an earlier one

[solid arrow]

for javelin, is it either banner or chain?

[spare citrus]

Known bug that during the quest The Immortal Citadel, the bosses (Harton and Zerrick) disappear? I could kill one of them while invisible but the other one was just gone. Couldn't finish the quest of course. I killed Yulia first. I wonder if the Harpoon Shot node from Ballista is what messes it up.

[slim roost]

yo, will the game be on sale any time soon?

[acoustic thicket]

Hi guys, is there a way to see all the skills and their tree online ? (not in game)

[raw fern]

Yep: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/

[acoustic thicket]

Thanks !

[snow spruce]

You can always search the Forum to see if its been reported, and if not, report it yourself,

!bug

[ripe brook]

To make sure a bug gets fixed, please post about it here: https://forum.lastepoch.com/c/bug-reports.

[acoustic thicket]

Anyone else have this issue? Lvl 48 palading and I can't equip lunge on my skill bar

[neon saffron]

Hey complete nublet who just bought the game, are there perhaps any class recommendations for skills that have a nice big oomph to them? I generally like corpse explosions in ARPGs (or stuff like herald of ice shatters in PoE)

[thick tusk]

are there new uniques with the patch ?

[raw fern]

A lot: https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/version/beta083/new/items

[thick tusk]

ty, after reading all new items imho there are only max 5 new items which have an interesting mechanic. most of them are sadly only some changed/buffed numbers

[snow spruce]

1. I think so? I misread your question the first time, my apologies
2. I've never played them with controller, but they're constantly making improvements to the controller support in this game
3. No
4. I don' think so?

!multiplayer

[ripe brook]

Multiplayer is still being worked on. Here's an update: https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/official-last-epoch-multiplayer-faq/42036.

[white lake]

So I havent played in a year, and just logged in to a message stating I have been blocked from sending and receiving chat. Is that a known bug, or did I do something bad I am forgetting about? I only ever remember using chat to ask questions

[wraith cave]

probably a question for !support

[white lake]

yeah I figured I would check here first in case it was a known thing.... guess it isnt

[rancid kelp]

is there a website that has good necro builds?

[balmy current]

The forum.

or this thing called YouTube.

[acoustic thicket]

I don't understand, Void Cleave can't be echoed since it's a movement skill but a Void Cleave's node talk about echoed Void Cleave

[stone granite]

Why would being a movement skill mean it can't be echoed?

Warpath can echo

[stone granite]

Sometimes tooltips are inaccurate, could be only things like lunge affected?

[peak citrus]

I'm stucked at the quest the scalebane. it says return to zerrick in majelka. but he doest not let me complete the quest 😦 Solved it by doing the side quest in the lower destrict of the city

[stone granite]

void cleave is clearly a melee ability

[acoustic thicket]

Ok thanks

[balmy current]

With the movement tag.

Maybe it's a compound skill (like Tempest Strike) & the movement bit doesn't get echoed but the swing does.

[stone granite]

I'm not sure there's any benefit to cleave having the movement tag outside of the passive node that reduces movement cooldown

[dense remnant]

My very initial hot take, is that void cleave is basically going to be hated by most people, because its going to be very strong, but also very awkward

[stone granite]

I find it great and not awkward at all

[dense remnant]

it has two part of its skill tree dedicated to spells

and you cant use a staff with it

its the definition of awkward

[stone granite]

Using a cleave skill with a staff sounds awkward

[wraith cave]

Well when I think of cleave, I think of something splitting something in half via a sharp blade. i.e. axe or sword. hence hammer isn't available. it's blunt like a staff would be. so I can see the reasoning thematically. but i also agree with Claire that it seems odd half the tree scales/gives bonuses through something 2h swords and axes don't have

[dense remnant]

gameplay and mechanics should always come over theme and flavour imo

i imagine the choice is to do with some balance stuff

if its just flavour, that would be very very wierd

[stone granite]

void cleave does in fact echo if anyone was still wondering

[lone skiff]

weird it was letting me play on the last patch

i couldnt find anything new

[fading jackal]

Divine Throws on the new Javelin skill is worded like the Harvest skill where ALL added damage is converted to lightning, yes?

I'm having a hard time understanding this mechanic

[last lion]

Yes all added

But only increases to lightning scale it

Meaning if you have say added void and added phys then take node both will be turned into added lightning I believe

But increased void or physical will not

[fading jackal]

so like

%void won't be beneficial

[last lion]

Yes

[fading jackal]

okay i'm getting it

so i haven't looked at all the Sentinel masteries yet, but, i'm guessin that Forge Guard will have like added fire damage and that gets converted to lightning?

not exactly sure how to scale the Javelin in late game with it being one of a couple of lightning skills

[green tendon]

Note that added melee void would not get converted, which seems to be a common pitfall that people are falling into

[last lion]

Meaning the melee tag would make it not correct

[green tendon]

Correct

Except if you use a polearm in which case 20% of it does get converted I think?

[last lion]

Yah

[urban horizon]

Correct

[green tendon]

If it says melee give it a pass unless you're using a polearm in which case give it a sideeye

[fading jackal]

going to try and use polearm

even tho it seems to be just worse than using a shield as a whole with Sentinel

[fading jackal]

would "added throwing void" be converted?

I just got the skill and i'm trying to figure out how to scale it with affixes when going forge guard

[green tendon]

Yes.

[fading jackal]

ayy

i have never gotten that affix shard i think

[green tendon]

If the added damage is applied to the attack, it's converted to lightning.

Added melee void is not converted (except for the polearm case) because it's melee and therefor not applying to Javelin

Added throwing void is applied, because it's a throwing attack

Shuriken maybe?

[wraith cave]

looks like shuriken with chakram node

[green tendon]

Yep, that's the one

[fading jackal]

so if i have added melee on a polearm that i plan to use it will benefit then?

because it scales directly off polearms

[green tendon]

20% of it is added to javelin, yes

[fading jackal]

hey

i'll take it lol

[wraith cave]

yes but added only , not increased

[fading jackal]

yeye i got that part

[green tendon]

So if you have +100 added melee void, you get 20

[wraith cave]

as far as im aware

[fading jackal]

just figuring out sources

wonder if they'll buff that scaling

unless it's just nuts endgame

[wraith cave]

well it already has really high base damage

[green tendon]

I doubt it considering you've got +40 base lightning damage in the skill tree

[wraith cave]

it's like 40

yeah

most melee skills are around like 1-5

so thrown skills already have deep inherent scaling

[green tendon]

Javelin apparently has 40 base phys damage

[wraith cave]

yep

[green tendon]

So if melee skills are 1-5 somewhere, with 6 passives you've got 80 base lightning damage, which seems like it should be competitive with most melee skills using a good weapon

Meaning that the 20% from polearm melee really isn't necessary to make it good

[fading jackal]

So as I understand it

[wraith cave]

nope, esp considering the affixes you can roll on a shield like throwing attack damage

[fading jackal]

optimally, if i'm playing Forge Guard, I want a polearm with melee fire damage to both boost Javelin's lightning conversion and relevant Forge Guard skills?

[green tendon]

No

I think

[fading jackal]

frick

[wraith cave]

i think that would work, no?

[green tendon]

It works

[wraith cave]

melee fire damage counts

[green tendon]

But it's not an accurate statement

Lemme phrase it for a moment

[wraith cave]

javelin does have fire nodes tho if you were forge guard and had melee fire damage

[fading jackal]

wanted the Divine Fury node

[wraith cave]

ah, gotcha

[fading jackal]

would Forge Guard be a bad pick for this then?

[wraith cave]

i think most people were saying paladin is the best choice for lightning jav

not sure if that's true or not but i saw it said often earlier today

[green tendon]

If you pick the Divine Throws node, then you want ANY added damage of ANY type, as long as it applies to Javelin. Melee damage only applies if you use a polearm. With Divine Throws, only Increased Lightning Damage works, increased fire/void/etc won't do anything

[fading jackal]

Javelin also boost Forge Strike

with the Sacred Forge node

[wraith cave]

well any added melee damage applies to javelin

doesnt have to be physical

[green tendon]

Correct

If you use a polearm

[wraith cave]

Yes

[fading jackal]

i'm just saying that if i pick Forge Guard and use Forge Strike, then the affixes on my Javelin should have added fire damage so that then I can also scale up some base on a Forge Guard skill

is that a bad idea?

[green tendon]

It is not

[wraith cave]

He was talking about a polearm so I just assumed the polearm was being used haha

[green tendon]

In isolation, it doesn't matter what damage you add to Javelin, it's all lightning in the end if you use that node

But if you want to scale Forge Strike too, then you want to use fire probably

[fading jackal]

yes that's what i'm saying

[green tendon]

But any "increased fire damage %" won't work on javelin

[fading jackal]

and was going to do if it works

yeyeyeyeye i get that part now

[green tendon]

Actually let me ask Mike just to confirm on that point, since it works differently in games I'm used to

[fading jackal]

now that i'm looking at it, it makes more sense to play paladin

trying to scale a lightning damage and fire damage skill at the same time seems difficult at best lol

those skills better be some nutty buffs

[green tendon]

If you're heading down the divine fury route, definitely in my opinion

[fading jackal]

sigils of hope has added fire

yeah we do that now

[green tendon]

Mike confirmed, definitely not doing the same thing as PoE does where it applies increases along the way.

[fading jackal]

Forge Guard is a no-no for Divine Fury then

holy aura has throwing attack damage

[green tendon]

Since inc fire damage is non-functional, definitely

[fading jackal]

guess i'm paladin lol

[inland jetty]

is it safe to assume warpath,javelin,lunge nodes that cast smite that it will use my smite tree

[green tendon]

Yes.

I can personally confirm that lunge and javelin do, since my smite is doing lightning bolt

[inland jetty]

:) nice

do the lunge and javelin use the smite mana cost ? only warpath seem to specify that it does

[green tendon]

Don't know actually

[inland jetty]

no mana cost on javelin

[toxic canyon]

That's not really how it works in poe either

But I guess this isn't the place to discuss poe mechanics >.>

[fading jackal]

I'm having an issue where items drop but they don't show up to be picked up, and a boss dropped a unique just now so is there a way to fix this without restarting?

nvm

i keep hitting z randomly

[green tendon]

In PoE, if you have 100 phys and convert 100% to lightning, then 10% inc phys damage will result in having 110 final lightning damage

But yes, not the place

[toxic canyon]

Yeah, but it isn't applied "along the way"

It is all applied at the end

[green tendon]

True, but it's a useful way to think of it that is intuitive to most people without requiring getting into how it maths it out

[toxic canyon]

Fair, will drop it now so we don't turn this into a poe channel haha

[copper fable]

Are forged weapon bonuses global, unlike fire aura there is no mention, say if I use warpath to generate weapons, do they get the added bonuses for forged weapons from the forge strike tree? Sorta similar to how fire aura can globally do more damage with flame wards tree regardless of where you get the auras.

Edit: to clarify well forged weapons in forge strike states "Weapons created by forge strike" all the other nodes simply state "Forged weapons"

[acoustic thicket]

Chapter 9 final boss damage seems insane, did some of you guys fought it yet ?

[cobalt remnant]

hey guys

Does anybody here know if it is possible to see how i've allocated my passives before this update ?

[stiff stone]

If you set up a loot filter for a specific item, say gloves, will the affixes available in the affix section only be limited to what can actually roll on gloves, or is everything listed and you have to know what can actually roll on them?

[random dock]

the 2nd one but that has been a highly requested QOL

[stiff stone]

ok, is there a tool/website that shows what affixes are available on each item slot so I can avoid adding affixes that can never roll on an item?

[random dock]

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/affixes

[stiff stone]

thank you ❤️

[rain nebula]

LE noob here, is there any skill in the game that works similarly to whirlwind in Diablo and cyclone in poe?

[random dock]

Warpath

[knotty hinge]

Warpath for the Sentinel class.

[turbid geode]

Does anyone have a universal loot filter for minions build which cover all the related mods?

[knotty hinge]

Check out Heavy's thread on the forums: https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/0-8-3-heavyz-casual-loot-filters-for-all-classes-v2-4/25176

[turbid geode]

Thanks @knotty hinge

[gusty token]

How much should I value Health as compared to resistances?

I recall hearing that more health made resistances less effective

[tranquil kindle]

That was the old system

[last current]

Is there any way to check if a character I made was set to masochist difficulty?

[dense remnant]

Press ESC, click on settings, click on challenges (the far right tab)

[last current]

Thank you!

[dense remnant]

You can see on that tab if solo or masochist are enabled, and then if you want to you can disable them

(though you cant enable them after they've been disabled)

[stoic hollow]

where do we find the exclusive rewards? ie black sun is supposed to give helmets and shields

[dense remnant]

Havent done mono's yet, but I think it's just a new timeline reward thingy (ii forget what they're calleD)

so you'll see it on the timeline map

then you just choose that echo, and you get it at the end

[steep stream]

I'd like to buy a game. However, I am concerned about the system requirements. Because my computer is a toaster. :p Would it be enough if the Path of Exile worked well?

[stoic hollow]

ive seen the unique echoes but not a helm specific one

it should be raba

[stiff stone]

Is there some kind of penalty for being overleveled or anything? Is there a "sweet spot" for how many levels to be above/below the area level?

[acoustic thicket]

There is a soft cap on how much you gain xp from monster above your lvl, otherwhise I don't think there is a penalty for being over level. I would think that farming the highest lvl area would get you more xp

[stiff stone]

ok, im just 4-5 levels overleveled during the chapters right now and wondered if i should try to just speed it up instead of exploring every area

[acoustic thicket]

You can speed up :) it also depends on how much dps/defenses you have, if you feel like it's enough, just speed it up a bit

[stiff stone]

i just wasnt sure if there was any incentive to explore instead of rushing

[acoustic thicket]

It's not like poe where you have to get into a certain rrange of lvl

Side quest are something like an incentive to explore i guess, as you can skip them and do them later

[stiff stone]

yeah i just didnt know if there was anything "hidden" to find like an unlockable pet or something

[acoustic thicket]

There are some small easter eggs in the campaign, also there are 3 uniques exclusives to side quest/boss. But maybe some hidden stuff i'm not aware of are still undiscovered to this day

I remember the devs talking about it before

[stiff stone]

either way im having a blast, this is the best time when everything is still new and exciting and gives you a sense of discovery

[rain nebula]

@random dock @knotty hinge Thanks guys

[fading jackal]

is the Hope node in Holy Aura passive? because if not that's wild

[still wolf]

Has this update fixed the micro stutters ?

[cobalt remnant]

Anybody also got some levels rolled back ?

I was lvl81 befor the update, now i'm level76.

[limpid rampart]

I'm getting major stutters now and screen tearing. Tried turning on Streaming Mode and vsync, no luck.

[wraith tundra]

how do I go into details of a tooltip that is underlined in a skill tree. For example, Concentrated Aura is a white underlined keyword but I can't seem to hover over it without losing the popup that displays it.

[brittle atlas]

hold alt?

[wraith tundra]

doesnt seem to work, specifcally, the skill node "Anointed" in the judgment skill tree. I can't seem to display "Concentrating Aura"

[cloud kindle]

Ctrl + Alt works for me

[wraith tundra]

hmm, for me, ctrl + alt doesnt do anything. I don't have judgment specced. Alt brings up tooltips/more info like normal. Ctrl + alt doesnt seem to have any effect on other skills

alt by itself also doesnt seem to work on "anointed" but it does on other skills

[rustic venture]

What class/build you guys recommend me to play?

[ocean marsh]

hey guys, new player here, can anyone give/refer me to a good loot filter for marksman?

[spare citrus]

Starter loot filters: https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/0-8-3-heavyz-casual-loot-filters-for-all-classes-v2-4/25176 edit them as needed when you have played a bit and know what you need.

[ocean marsh]

cheers

[nimble fog]

I'm doing Glacier ice vortex build, but I wonder if going more upfront damage wouldnt be better option. What do you think?

[misty sonnet]

do these passives work?

and where can I see my total melee void damage (increase) ?

[odd granite]

Does anyone got a Warpath vk build for 8.3

[marsh maple]

It's on the list. I just got done with day 1 with forged weapons warpath if your interested @odd granite

[cloud kindle]

Hi Dread @marsh maple . I have a Paladin with your Volcanus Warpath build, do you plan to update it? If not, I'll try to do it, but later, I'm in the campaign with a Necro

[marsh maple]

So

Let me put it simply

That version of the builds is quintessentially dead

At least the version that ran volcanus

Now

CoC paladin is still a thing, just in a different form

Hang tight @cloud kindle

[brave ibex]

What did they change to kill Volcanus Warpath?

[marsh maple]

Removal of manifest strike and the change of future strikes

Manifest strike was 40% more damage

And future strike was like 60% more procs of divine bolt and volcanus shards

[cloud kindle]

Dead, OK. So this Paladin will become my Javelin guy, then

[marsh maple]

Also the lost of more than 100% global more damage from the warpath tree

@cloud kindle CoC Paladin will be back just in a different form that's all

[cloud kindle]

At least, it was a very fun build. Once again, thanks for it! 🙂

[marsh maple]

They introduced tools to play a different archetype

[cloud kindle]

And I'll wait for your next one

[marsh maple]

It's sad to see it go so quickly though

[cloud kindle]

Well, I prefer it disappears instantly rather than diminishing patch after patch

[marsh maple]

Agreed

[tight kernel]

is spirit plague a single target skill?

does this node make it AOE?

[odd granite]

Your build IS forge knight i was looking for void knight

[spare citrus]

Is there any way to delete quests I will never complete?

[coarse warren]

Hi eveyrone, I open the game and this is all I see, any ideas why?

[rustic venture]

IDK im pretty good so im trying to find some builds

[rustic venture]

Nop, sorry, try on #support

[fierce kraken]

@coarse warren the channel is discontinued. It was too hard to track support issues there, use the link below instead

!support

[ripe brook]

Need a hand? Just head on down to https://support.lastepoch.com/ for support articles or to reach out to us directly.

[fierce kraken]

also if you haven't yet, verify your game files on steam

[inland jetty]

anyone else having to type game account and password everytime entering game ? have the setting to remember account but doesnt seem to be saving

[dense remnant]

Does anyone know if the 'Increased damage for 4 seconds if you have cast Devouring Orb recently' effect from an idol stacks? (I.e. if I cast 3 devouring orbs within 4 seconds, do I get the effect 3 times?)

[balmy current]

It never used to

It was a binary thing

[dense remnant]

ty ^^

[coarse stone]

I cant get my controller to work on the x-axis. can only move up and down. Tried to assign the movement to left stick but it doesn't allow me to. Worked the last time ive play. Resetted the controls to default but no satisfaction. Any ideas please?

[inland jetty]

is warpath attack interval affected by melee attackspeed ?

[static glacier]

does the the electrify stuff on smite also apply to the lightning bolts that smite can create?

[green tendon]

Yes.

[warm plinth]

What's your tree with Lunge ? (playing warpath)

[icy drift]

does healing hand just not have a tree? i can't seem to click to see it or specialize it

[green tendon]

Correct

I expect it's being delayed until multiplayer is a thing, it's questionably useful until then

[weary bolt]

anyone else's minimap and big map just black with dots on it?

[brave ibex]

How does the new unique farming work? The uniques just drop from the chests in that timeline?

[dense remnant]

From what I understand theres a specific echo reward for it

so you do the echo that has that reward, and then when you click on the chest after doing it, you get a unique or set item of the type that timeline has

[static glacier]

exactly

[junior narwhal]

nope still impossible to lunge at the idol of ruin

[spare citrus]

Is poison resistance of any importance for chapter 9?

[eager magnet]

Yes

[spare citrus]

So now it would be worth hitting the poison resistance cap?

[narrow python]

Does anybody know when the final release of the game will be?

[vast void]

no

they have a roadmap though

[balmy current]

Unless you like taking lots of damage from chapter 9 mobs.

[raw coyote]

how do you get something to auto-cast again?

nvm got it

[peak citrus]

is it correct that the max stacks of time rot is 12? the wiki says different then astepoch.tunklab.com , who to trust? 🙂

[toxic canyon]

it used to not stack, they just changed it to 12 in 0.8.3

[raw coyote]

can you use anything in an OH slot if you are using a 2hnd weapon?

[balmy current]

The wiki is, as usual, outdated.

[balmy current]

only a quiver if you're using a bow

[raw coyote]

kk

[reef leaf]

Did the ladder reset for the Arena_

?

[raw fern]

Yep: https://lastepoch.com/ladder

[reef leaf]

Ty

It's nice they left the choice to choose past version to have some sort of a permanent record

[stiff stone]

so much for just winging it being easy, ill never beat the final boss of chapter 9

[merry aspen]

do yall reckon its a good idea to split your build between two damage types ie. deal two types of damage (ex: fire and electric) instead of just one?

[stiff stone]

welp, majasa may make me quit before i even get to the endgame

[fierce kraken]

i think she just need to drop more potions, the hard part of the fight is long term sustain imo

[stiff stone]

dont see how i can ever beat it, 10-15 minutes fighting her and dying to have to restart the entire thing is kind of lame

this is why i follow meta builds and dont waste time trying to make my own

[merry aspen]

she is tough for sure but i bet you can beat her if you stick with it

im assuming its phase two that gets you?

[stiff stone]

ive already died about 25 times losing interest pretty quick

[acoustic rune]

it's not that i even get hit by aoe

the voidforms just eat me

[merry aspen]

what voidforms?

[dark fox]

You need a movement skill to get out, you can't really let enemies surround you.

[acoustic rune]

why the hell did these messages get sent to this channel?

[finite garden]

I beat her on a new character with a makeshift build I made with 0 poison resistance D: not saying it was easy or that I didn't die. just had to actually learn her attacks and how to dodge them

[acoustic rune]

i did not have it open

[acoustic rune]

I have lunge

The problem is not being surrounded by enemies

[stiff stone]

i know how to dodge her attacks, but my damage is too low and making 1 mistake is instant death.

[acoustic rune]

it's that, 2v1, voidforms kill me by just swinging at me

a voidform deals ~70 damage per hit, i have 320 hp

nevermind even hitting the boss

[finite garden]

320hp on act 9 boss? I suggest you go and respec

and perhaps craft some hp gear

try to hit atlease twice as what you have now

[dark fox]

it's act 2 or so, with the Void Amalgamation

[dark fox]

The voidform can be kited away from the lightning spikes. It's just a matter of taking pauses fighting the add and bashing the Amalgamation

[acoustic rune]

i am not bashing the amalgamation, the adds just kill me

i am not getting hit by any of the boss's attacks whatsoever

[dark fox]

I'm implying that you should focus on the voidform, it's kinda rippy without high void res

[acoustic rune]

i have 45% void res

[dark fox]

then tank up a bit, get some defenses (armor/dodge/whatever), you should be able to take the worm down and hit the boss, before he summons another one

or better yet, damage

if you completed the Erza's Ledger sidequest and got Gambler's Fallacy from the Gambler, equip it for guaranteed crits every 4s

[reef leaf]

Tbh, Majasa isn't that much of a deal

Sure, I died 5 times to her, but that's because I rushed it 5 times

[raw coyote]

does the number of affixes determine the items rarity?

[reef leaf]

You have to wait for the windows to hit her

[reef leaf]

No

[raw coyote]

what is the point or rarity then?

[stiff stone]

just cause something is easy for you doesnt mean it is for everyone else, especially people new to the game

[toxic canyon]

yes

[reef leaf]

Exalted items drop you affixes that are uncraftable tier

[toxic canyon]

for normal, magic, and rare

0 = normal, 1 or 2 = magic, 3 or 4 = rare

[reef leaf]

Didn't say it was easy, just saying that you have to figure out when you can attack and when to run

[raw coyote]

ok

[stiff stone]

"isnt much of a deal" is implying it's easy

[raw coyote]

i'm trying to build some colorized filters

[stone granite]

Well yes. Common items have zero affixes, magic have 1-2 affixes, and rare have 3-4 affixes. But exalted items can have 1-4

[reef leaf]

Because it's not hard to figure out when to attack and when to run

[stiff stone]

lol

[reef leaf]

Are you playing a melee or ranged/caster character?

[acoustic rune]

nah i got the avarice

maybe multistrike is just a bad spell to level with

[stone granite]

multistrike isn't a spell

[acoustic rune]

you get what i mean

[civic verge]

what does direct cast mean i cant find it in the game guide

[stone granite]

it means not triggered

you directly cast any spell that you activate from your skill bar, but if it's triggered from another ability then you didn't cast it

[cinder pumice]

Will healing hand be getting a skill tree? I have spec slot available but I can't spec into healing hand

[dense remnant]

On the majasa topic, I do think the bosses difficulty is a little bit overrated. Before this boss Lagon was the build checker, but that was literally just 'do yo uhave phys, lightning, cold capped. Can you move out of a really obvious one shot'. Whereas Majasa is 'Are all your res's capped, have you built around a damaging skill, do you have utlity in the form of cc or movement in your build, do you have enough hp and some forms of mitigation. Or do you understand the game enough to dodge everything you need to.'

It's definitely the hardest thing in the game yet I think (outside of scaling arena up really high). But it seems like its just designed to be 'gear up/fix your build' or 'dodge most of the things', instead of requiring both.

I do think the difficulty spike for all of act 9 is a bit rough, and it does kinda feel like you're meant to have more levels and gear than you get just rolling through to it, but it also has some very good maps for grinding.

[stiff stone]

maybe thats why it feels 'bad' to me. i was able to use my self-made dumpster build with relatively few deaths up until act 9 and then its just endless 1 shots even with capped res

[reef leaf]

The bosses aren't meant to be easy, hence they are the chapter's boss. Where you said that it is a test of whether you've built up cc/movement/res or around one certain dmg skill, I don't think that's necessary true, because I've beaten her playing with portion of my gear being low level and outdated with skills I just think could be in a good synergy, without following any online guides/builds. My res are around 30%.

She has some moves that are 1-shots, but her other moves aren't, and it has a pattern which can be learned relatively easy

@stiff stone I'd suggest for you to check if you've invested your passive and skill points in the right things (as in not going for all sides of the skill at once instead of maxing one side), and use some of the shards to buff your equipment with maybe leech on hit and movement speed

[cedar merlin]

Never played a sentinel so i dont know about the individual skill trees that might support my playstyle. Which class would you recommend for an electrify javelin build?

The only skill that screams "im useful" is the paladins holy aura

[stiff stone]

Knowing whether or not the build you made uses the "right" things requires game knowledge that a new player doesn't have. It's the entire premise behind my discussion yesterday about why I never waste time trying to make my own build

[reef leaf]

I am also a new player, but I just follow my intuition and I try to build something of my own.. if it doesn't work, the game allows you to respec everything, and I'd switch to something else

Good luck with the Majasa anyways

If you want some help/advice, you can DM me and I'll try to help as best as I can

[marble palm]

Guys, anybody could suggest some fast and strong meta (or even crazy OP) build to dive back into the game? Played a long time ago as Focus Sorcerer, a bit boring to just stand around channeling, got bored pretty fast

[reef leaf]

If you want some action and faster plays, try Blademaster

[fervent grotto]

does poison scale with physical or only poison?

more specific, how do i scale MINION poison damage?

[green tendon]

By getting minion poison damage

[fervent grotto]

ok just poison, wasnt sure if it somehow scaled with another stat

[stiff stone]

Does it matter which order these pieces of a loot filter are in?

like does the item type section need to come first?

[dense remnant]

no

[stiff stone]

ok cool

[brave ibex]

Anyone know where those gluttonous gloves drop from?

[cloud kindle]

not "poison", but "minion poison"

[woven swift]

Does anyone know why my filter doesn't show any idols at all? Just got an idol with % health % shared critical damage, I have both of those affixes enabled in my filter but the idol doesn't show up unless I disable the filter

Also all other items are filtered correctly, it's just idols that have this issue

[fervent grotto]

Yeah i know minions only scale with stuff that says minions. Thanks! 🤓

[hushed pelican]

is there a list of all new unique items added with the recent patch ?

[raw fern]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/version/beta083/new/items

[hushed pelican]

thanks

[turbid geode]

Did anyone tried a minion build?
If yes, can you please share the build?

[fading jackal]

How good is Sigil of Hope as a skill for health sustain? I'm about to get my 5th skill slot on my Paladin and I need something to help me regen hp

[green tendon]

Pretty solid

[fading jackal]

i'm not sure how health sustain is going to work yet with this paladin

either it's general health regen or it's just using rebuke to make up whatever damage i just took

[brittle atlas]

what skill?

[stone granite]

I used sigil of hope and got the trigger on kill node, often had 4 sigils going without having to do anything so it's just free bonus

There are lots of sustain you can do with paladin all at the same time

[fading jackal]

ye that sounds like the play

[stone granite]

I actually never used rebuke on paladin

[fading jackal]

so far i'm trying to make it just spamming the Javelin as much as possible with rebuke and lunge in between if necessary

idk it's pretty cool

maybe not meta but it's been working

if i dropped Rebuke then what would i use?

[stone granite]

rebuke is cool but if you have high block chance and heal on block then you have good sustain

[fading jackal]

well i'm going for Divine Fury Javelin

no shields here lol

[stone granite]

yeah can't really help there

[fading jackal]

hopefully the health regen from sigils just does it

[stone granite]

sigils also give you damage

[fading jackal]

yeah but if i take damage, i want to heal it lol

not really doing that atm

[stone granite]

if you are scaling lightning, smite can be converted

smite can act as a heal in a pinch

[fading jackal]

mhm

so far i'm just trying to keep Javelin the main skill and it has been working, but i'm going to keep trying out rebuke since i haven't maxed out the health regen nodes or anything yet

[eager magnet]

You can get idols that will proc smite on a throw hit

[stone granite]

yeah

[eager magnet]

And it procs a good bit with a few of them

Since you hit so much with that

[fading jackal]

hmmmmm

sounds like a plan depending on how close i need to be to things

[stone granite]

well you can spec the healing area larger

and give it the ability to give you a buff to regen for health AND mana

could be great addition

[fading jackal]

but the question is

do i drop sigil to then use smite

or should i drop rebuke and use sigil and smite together

if rebuke isn't that popular

[stone granite]

lunge/jav/sigil/aura/smite?

[fading jackal]

idk rebuke kinda cool

[stone granite]

rebuke is a panic button

[fading jackal]

but that may be more optimal

[stone granite]

you can still use rebuke

[fading jackal]

rebuke gives a solid attack speed bonus

[peak shard]

does generic damage like this increase ailment damage?

[fading jackal]

smite has attack speed bonus

[stone granite]

yes sasha

[fading jackal]

going for that

[peak shard]

thanks

[stone granite]

rivvy you can still have rebuke on your bar for panic situations, you don't necessarily need smite or sigil on bar since you can use them on auto trigger

smite idols trigger on hit, so still works with bosses, while sigil triggers on kill which makes it kind of necessary to have on bar

[fading jackal]

yeah but i would want to scale smite for healing sooo

if i can have smite and sigil just auto heal me while throwing spears that seems pretty good to me

[stone granite]

you can fit 4 smite idols, each with max chance of 9% trigger, and that's a fair amount of chance to trigger per hit

but remember, it also uses mana

so mana regen will be a must

[fading jackal]

and smite has mana regen on it

lot of synergy going around

[cold spruce]

Hi, new regions is broken? I have graphic issue. Check files not resolve problem.

[raw fern]

Check this topic: https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/thetima-black-screen/43556/24

[cold spruce]

Thx, helped

[peak shard]

does this work on ailments also, if it says "hits"?

[dense remnant]

no, dot's aren't hits in this game

[peak shard]

ok thanks

[dense remnant]

from the in game guide

[peak shard]

just making sure the wording is strict

a little confused why this one specifies "Hit damage" below and the other doesn't

[dense remnant]

if i use a controller, can i also use keyboard commands?

[brittle atlas]

multi-input drifting

[nimble fog]

I have a question. I speced my sorcerer's glacier into vortex, and it's fun, but I wonder if it's not too big point commitment for the result and if it wouldn't be better to specialize into raw damage/crits instead. Thoughts?

[brittle atlas]

the vortexes are generally pretty weak

[compact pewter]

Anyone else regularly seeing null reference exceptions in the log when the game is started up? It still works, just kind of weird that I'm seeing 4-5 of these.

[nimble fog]

I noticed unfortunately, because they're cool. I would consider leaving them anyway, but they need A LOT of points to be invested. For the pay-off I think it should be less points for the same effects

[nimble fog]

I also went with Black Hole to group my enemies for Glacier, but I wonder if I should go with Ice Barrage for single target damage instead 🤔

[livid matrix]

Can we still gamble unique ? Someone said that is not possible , but I'm not able to find that info

[green tendon]

We cannot

It's in the patch notes for 0.8.3

[knotty hinge]

Unique and Set items can no longer be obtained from the Gambler.
We feel that target farming Unique and Set items is more healthy for the game, so we’ve made that easier to do instead. (See Monolith of Fate section)
https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/sands-of-majasa-beta-0-8-3-patch-notes/43486/2

[inland jetty]

any clever source of regaining mana on sentinel beside rebuke or mana regen affix ?

[balmy current]

Mana on hit from Time & Faith passive

Plus mana on hit prefixes for Smite & Rive

and maybe Vengeance

[pallid crag]

electrify can stack yeah?

[green tendon]

Ye

[wide inlet]

Hello guys, I can't see any differences on shaman model in game is it normal ?

[stiff stone]

Any really fun non-sentinel builds that are top tier that survived the patch changes? I need a break from paladin

Just want to endlessly clear monoliths/echoes

[finite prairie]

what does shock do? or is it like poe?

[urban horizon]

Shock reduces lightning resistance and increased chance to be stunned*

[scenic pier]

is there a frame in which you can be killed while exiting the game? It closes the game kinda slowly for me so was just wondering if my character can die during that point

[finite prairie]

on marksman and blade dancer,is one better at poisons and the other bleeds? or both can do both just as good

[dense remnant]

does anyone know, roughly, how much dps you get from each stack of armor shred?

(for both phys and non phys)

[pallid crag]

how does the game actually calculate armors defense? armor compared to your level?

[pallid crag]

ok cool so you need to take area level into account to determine how strong armor shred is

[dense remnant]

im no ttalking about armor shred on me

im talking about applying it to enemies

which start at 0 armor

[gusty token]

there is a modifier 'chance to cast fire aura on kill fire skills'. I'm assuming the word 'with' is omitted for space there. Anyone know if kills from fire aura count?

[pallid crag]

oh enemies have 0 armor?

[dense remnant]

yup

[pallid crag]

still, wouldn't area level matter for that or is their calculation different?

[dense remnant]

theres graphs out there to show how much mitigation you get from armor

so i dont need to do a load of math to work that out

[pallid crag]

-100 armor at area level 10, and -100 armor at area level 70 are different things?

[dense remnant]

but i cant find anything for the opposite way, but id imagine someone has a simple % off the top of their head

and yes, i only care about area lvl 100

nothing else matters lol

[pallid crag]

right ofc

because it should only matter at empowered monos

i actually am curious now because i have a character with a t6 armor shred polearm they're using (410% chance to shred armor on hit)

[dense remnant]

afaik its basically not very good

but with new abysal echoes you can pretty easily build up 25 stacks with one cast

[pallid crag]

well yeah and that character has really high attack speed

so it easily can

shred 20 stacks

[jolly zinc]

does this mean that if I were to wear an item with say 50% more ignite damage it'd apply it to time rot? Or is it only for this tree (warpath)

[gusty token]

not sure how exactly to test it, but it does seem to not be triggered by the aura's kills

too bad

[marsh maple]

@balmy current the health on volatile zombie death, is that effected by your healing effect or minion healing effect?

[stiff stone]

Any really fun non-sentinel builds that are top tier that survived the patch changes? I need a break from paladin

[dusk gust]

I bought the steam version, created an account on the site, but it says I don't have the game when logging in, can anyone help me?

[snow spruce]

!support

[ripe brook]

Anything we can help with? We've support articles and a contact form at https://support.lastepoch.com/.

[raw coyote]

is there any way to apply affixes to Relics in the filter?

[lament nest]

In the loot filter? Yes

[raw coyote]

I have a blanket list of affixes and it's set to hide all except the ones w/ 2+ of the affxies

i'm wondering why it isn't applying to relics

[lament nest]

You could try with my rule at the top of the rules, it shouldn't affect your other rules because it is specific to relics

[pallid crag]

someone said that it works with the void knight passive to turn smite into void damage

[boreal rock]

just jumped back into the game after a break and i was wondering what the blue circles around the blessings are, anyone know?

[knotty hinge]

How close they are to the max roll. You can see the range my hovering over the blessing and pressing alt

[boreal rock]

huh, cool thanks!

[dusk gust]

Is there any place on the login screen to create the account? I just bought the game via steam.

[lone skiff]

anyone know the max stacks for ailments?

game guide says the oldest will be replaced when it reaches max stacks but i cant seem to find what the number is

[brittle atlas]

each ailment has its own stack cap (or none at all)

which ailment(s) do you want to know specifically

[lone skiff]

armour shred

[brittle atlas]

no cap

[lone skiff]

oh okay thanks so much

[brittle atlas]

there is an effective cap, as the most increased damage you (or an enemy) can take from negative armor is 85%

but it is exceptionally hard to get that much shred

[lone skiff]

is ther way to check duration of the ailment

[brittle atlas]

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/ailment/armourshred

[lone skiff]

oh thats cool site thanks

[raw coyote]

is the filters not working for relics a known bug?

[copper crest]

Does Abyssal echoes being procced from warpath use my skill tree or is it just the reg spell

[brittle atlas]

yes, it uses the skill tree

[copper crest]

siiiick thanks

[snow spruce]

Um... I haven't kept on eye on discord, but I'm pretty certain they do work for relics

[raw coyote]

This is my filter. All relics show up

[snow spruce]

Well, so long as they have a single affix (based on the name of the rules) I'm not sure why they wouldn't given how your filter is setup

[raw coyote]

it's just idols

it's not the lvl 1-40 single affix

ALL idols are showing up

even with 0 / 36 affixes

[snow spruce]

Relics and Idols are different...

[raw coyote]

sorry idols

I was jsut making a relic

[snow spruce]

I don't think Idols are considered normal/magic/rare, they're just Idols

[raw coyote]

ah

ok

[snow spruce]

But I could be wrong, because they just added Unique Idols to the game.... so maybe they're changing that?

[raw coyote]

so jsut add a hide all idols at teh bottom?

gonna try a hide all NMR Idols, see if that works

nvm that won't work

just gonan try a hide all idols at bottom

[ocean marsh]

hey guys, newbie here, is there any way to target certain uniques? for example morningfrost and arrowguard, they're low level (7 and 8), anyway to get them?

[brittle atlas]

Not until the endgame

at endgame in the monolith system each monolith has a specific item type you can target in it

like boots, bows and quivers, gloves, etc

[tight kernel]

@brittle atlas how badly is your poison lich hit by patch?

[brittle atlas]

it's dead

like 98% less damage

[tight kernel]

What’re you doing with that character?

Out of the 4 characters I created during 8.2, think 3 had pretty substantial changes

I have no heart (at the moment) to regear them so I just started a new lich lol

[brittle atlas]

I've respec'd it and I'm experimenting with other stuff

[tight kernel]

Will it ever come back in future patches

[brittle atlas]

poison lich?

no idea

[tight kernel]

Hit me hard enough for me to be satisfied with creating characters that last the patch itself

Never thought I’d create a solo character but the stash is abit too expensive to maintain now lol

[ocean marsh]

@brittle atlas i just reached the monolith stuff, but what i see so far is like "rare bows" or "random unique" how do i target farm those unique boots/quiver?

[brittle atlas]

each timeline has its own drop type

[ocean marsh]

nice thank you, where is this from ?

[brittle atlas]

the patch notes

the reward nodes for them are like

the item type icon

with a green/orange gradient border

[ocean marsh]

can you show me a quick example if possible?

[brittle atlas]

sec

[ocean marsh]

ive only just started the system so i have access to fall of the outcasts and the black sun only so far, but fall of the outcasts looks like it has the quiver

[brittle atlas]

there's one for staves

[ocean marsh]

ohhh didnt see that yet 😄

thanks alot

there was a bow called reign of winter that i was told drops in the age of winter, is that still correct or did it change this patch to go with the rest of the bows in fall of the outcasts ?

[brittle atlas]

yep, it's a boss drop in age of winter still

[nimble fog]

Could you tell me what do you think is better for freeze Sorcerer as a fifth skill - Ice Barrage or Black Hole? I don't know if in later stages of the game it'll be more useful to group enemies with black hole or to have additional single target sustained damage with Ice barrage

[ocean marsh]

ok, thank you* so much again 😄

[brittle atlas]

Probably ice barrage?

single target is definitely something you want to make sure you have addressed in a build

[nimble fog]

I use Glacier as both AoE and single target RN, just it's my first playthrough and I wonder if it'll work in post-game

Fortunately it's really easy to respec here

[mystic sleet]

hello fellow travellers, I wonder if there is a way to delete stash tabs?! I cant semm to find a possibility to do that.

[cedar merlin]

https://i.imgur.com/JdgKpZD.png does this mean i can go for bleed duration and ignite effect to increase electrify damage?

[marsh maple]

No @cedar merlin

so when it says effects related

it means that if Javelin had a node saying javelin deals x more damage to ignited enemies

it applies to electrify instead

[cedar merlin]

Ooh, sadlife

[marsh maple]

yeah

Idk why its not like that

[cedar merlin]

So everything is worthless except ignite and bleed CHANCE ye?

[marsh maple]

Although it would be busted in certain situations

Yep

obviously Ele Damage Over time is good to

[cedar merlin]

Why is my throwing attack crit chance not listed as a stat under "damage"? i can only find "increased throwing attack speed"

[clever junco]

Hey guys is there a way to figure out what is your total crit with a spell ? Like poe you select your skill and the toolstips tell u the details
I don't even know if my skill have a base crit without the modification + items

[brave ibex]

Not yet, they plan to add stats for specific skills

[clever junco]

Like glacier how i'm suppose to know what is the base crit of the skills and what is my crit with all the modifications + items

Kinda hard to theorycraft a build

[blissful gate]

So with Arena Keys of Memory - in what wave number are we guaranteed to have such a key?

[brave ibex]

I mean you can calculate crit yourself or use the spell crit already in the game. Like I said, they are going to add the stats you want eventually. It's an EA game

[clever junco]

Yes you can do the math but everythign change every time you change your items

Tooltips should be a priority, most of people doesn't want to sit and theorycraft for hours every time they upgrade thier items or re-roll a different build.

Enyway thank you for the reply, i really hope they put this concern top priority for the health of the community because personally i don't wanna deal with all the math to theory craft a simple build, there is already alot to calculate and figure out, Crit and toolstips should be there ot help players to make and test the build.

[turbid geode]

please someone help me, there is a unique item on the ground but I cant pick it up, I already disabled any lootfilter, but still not working

there is no name tag on it also

[dark fox]

Check if ground tooltips are hidden by accident (default Z)

[turbid geode]

Thank you alot, really thank you

[dark fox]

np!

[peak shard]

what are monsters and bosses average resistances?

[rigid wagon]

i am using static with unlimited power and i spec into lightning blast but it seems like the proc does chain or give me lightning aegis. So correct me if i am wrong but is the proc from unlimited power does use my lightning blast but a basic one ?

no one can help me with this ?

[green tendon]

I'm guessing it wouldn't chain because the chain depends on repeated casts

Lightning aegis I don't know

[rigid wagon]

so normally the proc should be based on my own lightning blast and not a basic one ? That how it should work correct ? @green tendon

[rough gulch]

When is the minimum specialized level becomes 20? I'm lvl 56 and my minimum level is still 7

[green tendon]

Usually that's the case. If you feel like that's not the case, I'd ask in #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs to see if this is intended behaviour. If they say it's a bug, you should post on the forums.

[green tendon]

Never I think? It gets higher than 7, but I don't think it ever reaches 20.

[rigid wagon]

i am gonna do more testing before bothering them thanks for the answers @green tendon

[green tendon]

Good plan

[rough gulch]

so it's just shown 20 for convenient in last epoch tool planner?

[green tendon]

I don't know for sure, but I think so

[rough gulch]

thx for kind reply sir

[green tendon]

Not a sir but thanks ♥

[static glacier]

is there any quick overview option how much corruption you have at what timeline?

without entering them one by one 😉

[sharp grotto]

No

[sharp grotto]

what a weird comparison to use an unaffiliated planning tool
You'll get to level 20 base by the time you reach like level 70 something or... around that time

[rough gulch]

ty sir i'll just keep leveling

[minor path]

what is the diffrence between the "ligh" and a mage?

[sharp grotto]

wdym?

[minor path]

?

[sharp grotto]

oh, lich

?

[minor path]

ok

in the acolyte

[sharp grotto]

That's... a different class and spec altogether from mage, which is just a base class for sorcerer and spellblade

[minor path]

ok but the oacylte use speels like the mage?

[sharp grotto]

It uses completely different spells

If you want to get down to it there's no difference between anything, it's all about damaging and surviving to get big numbers so you can get bigger numbers
And life / eHP is nothing but how to survive bigger numbers
It's all about flavour and how you scale that flavour

The feel of things and your personal desire/inclination towards a certain flavour is what will determine what you'll play, and what you may be curious about

You could try mage and acolyte to get a feel on how they differ, see what tickles you fancy

[minor path]

ok thank you

i think i'm gonna try the acolyte

but i was thinking the acolyte give more DOT and the mage wants to one shot

[hollow socket]

Both have both types of skills.

[sharp grotto]

Depends how you wanna build your character

[minor path]

oh ok

[sharp grotto]

One thing mage doesn't have are minions

[minor path]

yes i see that

[hollow socket]

The mage is more beginner friendly IMO since he receives high elemental resistances from the tree.

But the acolyte has a few skills where you won't need to manage your mana, which can be appealing for new players as well.

[minor path]

ok thank you

i want to play a characeter at a distance

and the rogue is good at distance?

[static glacier]

Lvl 69 unlocks lvl 19 spell progress.... lvl 75 unlocks lvl 20 progress
Usually you need 1 more level to fill the bar

At around level 90 your minimum lvl is 11

Not sure if there is 12 at lvl 95+

No matter anyway 1 empowered echo usually is progress to lvl 18 or 19 😬

Kill the first pack of mobs and you are lvl 14 or 15 later

[static wren]

Does Drain Life -> Grim Harvest only give mana back to player from Minions or does it also take their life?

[sharp grotto]

They're all good at distance

Try things dude, see what clicks for you

[minor path]

ok

[static glacier]

You can make almost anything do empowered monos ... just for deep corruption and arena at high waves there is kind of meta

For me thats content i was never interesting in 700 hours and there is no need for this in terms of loot

[peak shard]

guys anyone knows how much resistances monsters or bosses have? trying to figure out how much damage increase is 1 phys shred stack

[static glacier]

0

If you do not give them via modifiers

[peak shard]

oh, so if they have any it will say explicit it mods?

[static glacier]

1% pen = 1% more damage

[stone gust]

1% more damage in what way?

[static glacier]

You give them via echo modifiers

Like .. 1% more...??? Sorry i do not get the question

[stone gust]

% in the same way X% more XX damage way?

[static glacier]

Yes

[peak shard]

is there any average amount of res late game echos will have or it just depends?

[static glacier]

0

[sharp grotto]

that's actually nice

[static glacier]

If you dont pick res modifiers

Those are around 20-30% afair

[sharp grotto]

baseline?

[static glacier]

No you pick 😬

[sharp grotto]

No I meant the modifiers

[peak shard]

alright, so by default I can assume res shred is 1% more dmg and if I pick res mods it will be more than 1%

[static glacier]

Yeah 20-30%

[sharp grotto]

aight cheers. Just wanted to make sure for corruption & stuff

[static glacier]

Dont know whats the cap on the all res modifier is at very high corruption

At like 150-200 it is something around 25%

[static glacier]

Res shred is not pen btw 😉

[peak shard]

ah doesn't go negative, gotcha

thanks

[static glacier]

Pen works for dots and hits

It goes negative

[peak shard]

ok so there's res shred, armor shred and res pen, that's it?

[static glacier]

Yes

With armor shred having no cap

And being useless for dots

[peak shard]

aight, have to adjust the tree now, thanks again

[static glacier]

Usually if you dont get pen from tree you always want it on amu

[peak shard]

also I assume shred goes first before pen?

in calculations

[static glacier]

What shred?

Armor is completly different then res

For res i think pen and res shred just get added together

So if you have 10% pen and 5 stacks res shred on the boss you do 20% more damage

[peak shard]

never mind dumb question just realized shred is a debuff on an enemy so it will always apply before any damage with pen comes in

[static glacier]

The armor more and the (res shred + pen) more should be multiplicative

For hits obviously... dots do not scale with (negative) armor

[acoustic thicket]

Does Warrior's Fury increase Warslash damage/area ?

Since Warslash comes from Warpath abylity

[night elm]

I "accidentally" took Necromancer instead of Lich there is no way to undo that. Do i have to play the whole story again when i create a new char ?

[green tendon]

Yes.

[night elm]

Like in Path of exile? How long will the Campaign be ?

[static glacier]

To mastery quest is only a third of campaign

2 hours max if you know what you are doing

Well more like a quater now with act 9 ingame 😬

[night elm]

I've played 500h of Path of Exile before but iam new to Last Epoch. I really like the Acolythe and want to create my build around spirit plaque but the "Lich" is way better than the "Necromancer" for that what do you suggest?

[static glacier]

You need 1 of any mastery anyway 😉

[stiff stone]

What does this arrow indicate?

[static glacier]

Just try everything rushing mastery quest is really bäno big deal

[static glacier]

You csn upgrade this

No tier 5+ yet and you have the shard

[stiff stone]

thanks

[night elm]

@static glacier ok, ill finish the story as a nechromancer i either find a way i like to play it efficiently or ill create another char to get my "Lich" And what do you mean i "need" one of every mastery ?

[static glacier]

Well to get the full game 😬

[night elm]

I still can put points into "Lich" now im confused

[static glacier]

Respeccing in your mastery is fast and easy so with 1 ready of each you can try evry build

Up to the line yes

And some skills are exclusive

[inland jetty]

in the lich tree the nodes that show "Reduced health drain %" does that affect the reaper form drain ?

[static glacier]

Reaper Form is decay 😉

[raw coyote]

How do you get to the ruined coast?

[inland jetty]

ah i see,would it be possible to sustain reaper form long time or atleast a full map with lich+ aura of decay healing and some healinf effectiveness ?

[night elm]

ok, got it now. thanks alot

[raw coyote]

@night elm Once you choose a mastery, that character will always be that

if you want to play a lich, you'll have to reroll another toon

every build can put in points into every mastery up to the ruler

but once you select a mastery (at lvl ~40) then that's it for that toon

[static glacier]

Mastery is about lvl 25-30 😉

[static glacier]

For a map easy ... even without aura

Getting knocked out of reaper and survive the cd is half the fun 😄

[misty sonnet]

anyone else having issues casting rebuke on sentinel?
seems to happen mostly when I'm doing warpath and trying to chain into rebuke, the animation bugs out and I'm not sure it's casting probably

[stone granite]

I'm 100% certain it's actually working

[misty sonnet]

oh, alright, shouldn't bother me too much then 😅

[stone granite]

I think they changed how things are interrupted, so it might have broke the animation

[finite prairie]

so poison and crit builds do not mix well?

[stone granite]

Damage over time is not affected by crits

So it depends on what you are trying to scale for damage

[somber cave]

hmm I just asked this in general but I should ask it here instead maybe