❔┃ask-the-community

[viscid lichen]

i did the quest to mastery and spent more skill points and passive skills ,to make my char more stornger,now i cant summon more animals,i like to play with many summons

must be a bug

it is possible to have many summons animals are the same time?like,wolf+scorpion+raptor+bear+sabertooth?

[brittle atlas]

There are several nodes in the passive tree that limit you to one companion

and some uniques as well

make sure you didn't take any of them

I believe you can have up to 6 companions at once if you take all the sources of additional companions

maybe 7 for wolves? idr

[balmy current]

Yeah, you picked a passive that allows only 1 companion

[viscid lichen]

yes,was the artor's loyalty

i will try to remove this skill

a bigger spacebar would be nice

only 4 skill in the space bar is too small for me

5 with mouse

[brittle atlas]

the entire game is designed around 5 skills and having to choose which ones you use

[wary shoal]

if you want to use more stuff there are options but you ll always have only 5 skills to cast, though you can trigger more

[solar moss]

does % increased fire dmg boost ignites?

how does +fire dmg on skills like cinder strike affect ignites?

[wary shoal]

increases affect ignites

but as every other damage over time it has a fixed base dmg which can be increased by added dmg

[solar moss]

hmm, i get the feeling i may of bit off more than i can chew with this build based on that lol bleed to ignite dual wield blademaster

itl iether be puncture or cinder strike thats my boss killer but which idk yet

cinder strike will do a fair bit more per ignite while puncture will apply like 4 or 5 more ignites per attack

[wary shoal]

i mean i m guessing boardman probably made sth similar

maybe look on youtube

[solar moss]

i saw a bleed one but they didnt convert it

ive actualy seen noone use these gloves in my searches

[frigid orbit]

The problem with these gloves is that they do not convert bleed effect and duration. At least in my opinion...

[balmy current]

Yes, they only convert bleed chance to ignite chance

[solar moss]

ya, but correct me if im wrong ive only seen duration/effect on some skills right?

[frigid orbit]

'In my opinion' was related to the fact that this makes the gloves not that good and not the point that they don't convert effect/duration 😉

Some classes have talents and even gear for it

[solar moss]

hmm i think i saw 1 passive for bleed duration on rouge but thats it

[frigid orbit]

Paladin gets a lot of bleed/ignite scaling from tree and gear. Beastmaster has poison and bleed

[solar moss]

i may check out paladin again, didnt just randomly pick rouge but i may of missed something

[frigid orbit]

Sentinel even has bleed effect/duration on gear. Which is big.

[solar moss]

hmm between bleed effect and duration your likely right that sentinel is the bleed king

still think the gloves could be pretty strong

[frigid orbit]

I do not even know. Are there many sources of ignite effect/duration?

[solar moss]

coupled with dual wielding you could reach over 200% ignite chance on hit as a base

[frigid orbit]

That's not really a lot...

[solar moss]

wizard has effect/duration and sentinel has duration

i know you can get more but 200% before any other stats isnt bad

[frigid orbit]

The thing for ailments is, that duration/effect are both are unique groups of more multiplier and thus important for damage scaling

[solar moss]

hmm maybe this just isnt viable

well not meta viable

[brittle atlas]

ignite for the most part is just not very good

[frigid orbit]

But maybe you should try it and find a new great build 😉

[brittle atlas]

weakest ailment for sure

the enchant weapon ignite build is pretty neat

where you stack a ton of ignites then use enchant weapon to pop them all for triple damage or something

[frigid orbit]

Ignite abse dps is not that much wors than bleed. Just too few ways to scale it

[brittle atlas]

35 vs 53

[frigid orbit]

3 vs 4 seconds

[solar moss]

ignite technacly does more dps but lasts shorter

only by like 2

which when your stacking matters and duration buffs

ignites 40 base over 3 while bleeds 48 over 4 if i recall the wiki rightly and didnt fudge the math

[frigid orbit]

35/3 = 11.66 v 53/4 = 13.25 -> 1.14 -> bleed has 14% more base dps

[solar moss]

check the wiki as it sais something different unless the wiki is out of date

[frigid orbit]

out of date

[brittle atlas]

the wiki is almost certainly out of date

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/ailments

[frigid orbit]

My values are from the in game guide

[solar moss]

hmm well thats a pain

[frigid orbit]

If someone would try to consider splitting increases/more/... for attacks (no minions) into two distinct groups, would this work: [melee, spell, throwing attack, bow, generic] x [curse, dot, hit, generic] ? Generic would be a type applying to all other types in that group. I mean some of them currently do not exist to my knowledge, like (melee, dot) := 'increase to melee damage over time', but otherwise I currently cannot think of a modifier which must be applied to two different tuples/pairs at a time. It either applies to all in one group, i.e., to generic or only one of them. Is there anything I'm missing?

[glacial bison]

hi, where is the shining coves? i can't seems to find it (to complete the quest "The Sapphire Tablet")

[balmy current]

You go to the zone your arrive in after jumping off the Dreadnaught.

can't remember what it's called

the far bottom left of that map.

[pale umbra]

its the first area you arrive after harton, then go to the illusion down the canyon of the right side to get to the portal

[glacial bison]

yea i guess im just blind sry

the quest marker is almost invisible

ty guys!

[reef leaf]

How often is the game on sale?

[versed willow]

Not very often

It was 20% off during steam summer sale

And that's the only time in recent memory it was on sale

[wicked hearth]

I imagine it’ll go on sale during Black Friday and/or the winter sale

it’s my understanding that trading will be for gold only, yes? I’m curious how something like that will work for the trade economy when people might not really need gold, since it’s so easy to come by on your own and you don’t use it for anything besides tabs/respecs/gambling. would those really be driving factors in trading an item for gold?

[frigid orbit]

We do not know yet how trading will look like.,

It could be based around gold, shards, runes or anything which is not introduced yet.

[wicked hearth]

could’ve sworn I saw that gold would be the trade currency in the faq

[hollow socket]

Items will be very pricy, almost as pricy as the average gamble on them.

That's for certain.

If that's enough to incentivize picking them up and selling them?

Maybe not all.

But good exalted bases will probably be 20mil+ gold.

[jagged cradle]

How useful penetration is for frostbite?

[opaque solar]

Is insidious any good. seems like im sacrificing so much for one skill.

[snow spruce]

The same as any other skill/effect, its effectively a more modifier

[jagged cradle]

This can work. I have ways to apply alot of hits.

[snow spruce]

That's different -- that's Shred, which is different from penetration. I'm unsure of the interaction between Shred effects and DoT effects.

That being said... it should work

Poison shred's poison resistance, so, yeah.

[jagged cradle]

It should work assuming its the right resistance.

[snow spruce]

Yes, using the community game guide to be sure Shred applies before resistances, and Penetration applies after resistances.

[balmy current]

DoTs will take advantage of any appropriate shred stacks (& penetration if you have any of that) on the target.

[balmy current]

That's for the player, since mobs generally don't have resists (apart from a few), they aren't a problem.

[snow spruce]

Sure, but it should still work the same yes? I apply 5 stacks of Shred, then I penetrate say 10% afterwards for a total of... Damage * 1.25 * 1.10 or is it Damage * 1.35

[balmy current]

I'd probably think x1.35, since penetration & shred are modifying the same basic number (the target's resist).

[snow spruce]

Yeah, that ones kind of up in the air to me, as it isn't clear that that's what's happening -- for instance from the Build Planner discussion today in the Forums, it doesn't look like Shred applies to the damage calculation based on what Dammit was saying

[balmy current]

It wouldn't since the tooltip can't know how many stacks you'd have

[snow spruce]

Ah yeah, context is important!

[balmy current]

But that doesn't affect how it works in-game

It's probably a good question for the devs though

[snow spruce]

Yeah, Ill go and ask

[balmy current]

too slow. 😉

[snow spruce]

Lol

I just got done banging my head against a problem at work...

[balmy current]

Anyway, it's late.

or early....

[snow spruce]

Goodnight! Sleep well.

[robust heron]

you guys prefer one-hand or two-hand ?

[pale umbra]

dual wield 1h's is what I prefer. 2h has uses, 1h is used with shield or catalyst all depends on the build

[solar moss]

Ya its kinda build dependant

[shrewd prism]

do most stages have one specific damage type, especially in MoF?

in that case can't i just have multiple gear sets for each resistance so i can spec more into damage

[pale umbra]

it does have themes but they can be mixed. example an undead area can have you clear a savage forge (wengari) which are different

or poison blobs with necro soul cages and other physical mobs. even ice with fire

[rough trout]

Oh, I sure wish I could read. I was interpreting the base damage as the DPS for ailments

[vestal path]

hey guys, is there a way to search stash tabs for affix tiers? im dumping my loot after echos into the tab but only wanna check out t5 affix items for now

[tardy fulcrum]

does judgement's consecrated ground's aura Anointed heal you permanently?

[cosmic shard]

what monolith is the abomination at?

[frigid orbit]

First

[cosmic shard]

first? oh ok

are the bosses random?

[frigid orbit]

Penetration and shred are definitely additive. They modify the enemies resistance and thus the damage reduction.
Take enemy resistance Y, apply reduction by shred to get Y=Y-S, take the minimum of 75 and Y: Y=min(75, Y). This is to account the fact, that shred refuces res before the cap. Now you substract penetration to get Y=Y-P.
This is your final value. Now your damage is multiplied by (1-Y) to get the resulting damage. If the final resistance is >0 your damage will be reduced. Otherwise increased.

[jagged cradle]

Does freeze avoidance on frostbite stack?

[frigid orbit]

If you mean freeze avoidance reduction. yes.

[jagged cradle]

Nice

[frigid orbit]

It changes the Denominator of the freeze chance calculation

[jagged cradle]

Its alot like how status effect "effect" works in poe.

[pale umbra]

mini-bosses are random within the monolith but the end of echo bosses are the same

[cosmic shard]

ah ok

I think I remember fighting him a second time then

[mellow maple]

hello, all. i am new to this game. i have a little bit of arpg background playing PoE and Diablo3 before this. have just gotten my mastery.(mage sorc) was wondering what i should be looking for in terms of gear

and if there are any beginner friendly in depth guides out there

[pale umbra]

you can go to boardman21

he has indepth guides and how to do

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/boardman21-others-150-builds-leveling-guides-compendium-v0-8-2i/29494

[mellow maple]

thanks, yeah been looking at some of his guides on youtube

has a step by step guide on pretty much every class by the looks of it

what are some good early game builds?

the sorc im playing now, the damage feels like it's falling off a little bit takes me a fair few secs to kill some packs with channelling ele nova

[brittle atlas]

Glacier is great while leveling

But lightning ele nova/lightning blast really pops off at endgame

[ripe quartz]

glacier feels soo chunky...

been having fun with it.

i just wish the skilltree allowed for more customisation. more in the way i posted in #suggestions-and-like-to-see at one point. like allowing us to disable certain 2 of the 3 cascade sizes and give interesting modifiers to the one you leave intact.

[brittle atlas]

I think the glacier tree is pretty old at this point, not sure that it has changed much in the last three years

[ripe quartz]

yeah. i just think doing something along the lines i suggested would give the spell 3 new ways to build it and 3 new use cases.

giving each of the cascades their own identity if you choose to specialise in that cascade size.

[glacial bison]

hi, if i want to gamble for this item do i need to be lvl 58?

or is it just required lvl to equip the item

[brittle atlas]

You need the required level in order to gamble it

[covert schooner]

Anywhere I can post save logs? I had a power malfunction in my house yesterday while the game was running, lost a character and all my stashes (hc, sc, solo etc.) are borked lol

[balmy current]

Not quite sure what you mean. Are the backup files borked as well?

[covert schooner]

I'm not sure, when I log in on any of my other characters that exist, my stash is just gone - items, gold, etc

In my saves folder I see a bunch of files, and some temp files which I'm guessing are backups

[balmy current]

Yup

Make a copy of the folder, then delete the non-temp files.

[covert schooner]

Alright

Oh no these temp files are old af

[viscid lichen]

the only quest that i have is that,did i beat the game?when i press ESC dont show which act/chapter anymore...

[versed willow]

yes thats the end of the story @viscid lichen

for now atleast

start doing monoliths

[vestal path]

is there a way to search for affix tiers in my stash?

say i only want to highlight items with an affix tier 5

[gentle void]

no, i dont think so

you cant even search for an affix name either

[vestal path]

REAL BUMMER

woops

makes dumping loot into tabs kinda unattractive

[gentle void]

yeah im not sure if they said it or not, but i can see them adding that option in the future

once you tighten up your loot filter, youll have that problem less

[vestal path]

hope so, i cant always be bothered with checking loot, osmetimes i just wanna farm shards or idols

[gentle void]

like making a rule for t4 or t5 only of the affix/affixes you want to shatter

[vestal path]

its already tightened, but im also collecting items for shattering and actual gear for the build

but right now i desperately need idols so wanna farm them up as fast as i can and not bother with the resrt

im even stricter on that, i only shatter items with one t5 and at least a total of 8 affix levels

also a couple specific affixes at any level

[gentle void]

👍

[vestal path]

still, after a full echo run or so i have 3 or 4 tabs full of stuff, and yeah, makes it kinda annoying if i cant search for stuff, hope they add it

[pale umbra]

the search is limited but you can use the base name like "oracle" to filter out specific types. You can use partial names of skills like mana r will find the mana regen nodes on them

[vestal path]

yeh that was my work around

but i dont always remember the wording on all the things i look for, it works for now, but again, just a QoL issue

[pale umbra]

yea this is also a beta so a lot more features are to come in the future

[frigid orbit]

I think at some point they just should provide a full regex search for item tooltips. Don't even know why it isn't there already.

It may not be simple for most people without knowledge but you could copy/paste the searches from others who figured out smart ways.

[humble bear]

Does a masochist character have access to normal stash, or do masochist characters have their own stash

[balmy current]

The only modes that don't share are SC/HC & Solo/everything else.

[humble bear]

Thanks

[vestal path]

i really shouldnt have started a build that requires idols

bloody things are elusive as heck

[upbeat panther]

im at level 64 and on the level 65 monolith when does the game get more difficult

I've completed the story and its still just running around one shotting things, think the enemies need about 3x or 4x more health ?

the game is fun anyway but at what point does it become challenging ?

[crimson topaz]

Lol nice.. im not even lvl 40 druid and died already like 40times hahah

[upbeat panther]

I'm playing Forge Guard and it's quite tanky but also does quite a bit of damage. I died a few times but the game doesn't feel difficult yet

im not trying to flex haha its a genuine question as im assuming at some point the game becomes hard, or else people wouldnt be playing the game for so long!

[frigid orbit]

Story is tutorial. Empowered Monoliths later can get challenging for many builds

When you finish the three level 90 Monoliths you will unlock all at 100 and there is an infinite scaling possibility to make it harder

[brittle atlas]

for the most part, if you cover your bases defensively and aren't super underleveled, it won't until higher corruption levels in empowered monos

[shrewd prism]

i can't really find information about enemies in last epoch - do enemies also have capped resistances in high level zones?

in other words is buliding res shred always value

[gentle void]

enemies typically have no res or armor

[brittle atlas]

enemies typically have no resists, but shred and penetration can both force them negative

[frigid orbit]

Resistance Shred only looses its value when you have to many 'additional resistance' modifier in your monolith as it is applied before the resistance cap

[gentle void]

mobs get armor or just dr % based on level? i dont remember

[brittle atlas]

just dr afaik

[gentle void]

ya thats what i thought

👍

[upbeat panther]

if i take the option to skip the level 60 monolith can i unlock it later?

[frigid orbit]

Yes

Just run the monolith again or later at empowered

[lusty bolt]

whats the blue circle around blessings

[knotty hinge]

How close it is to the max range (hold alt while hovering over the blessing to see the range)

[vestal path]

wow dots mess with tooltip dps so hard

[tight kernel]

is this effect usable on marksman?

[brittle atlas]

Yes

[tight kernel]

nice

[brittle atlas]

Being good is another question, but there are a few skills with a base freeze rate available on marksman

[tight kernel]

if i merely use bow attack with chill % it still works right?

like multishot

or must it be cold denotating arrow?

[brittle atlas]

Only attacks that have a base freeze rate can freeze

[tight kernel]

ahhh

😦

[brittle atlas]

so cold detonating arrow, the icicles from reign of winter, maybe cold hail of arrows?

[tight kernel]

i see...

i have a shitty reign of winter and not in the mood to redo the whole timeline yet lol

1 last normal timeline before i hit empowered

[analog stump]

i got aurora's time glass and exsanguinous in the same run
was surprised they work together
is there a build based on these items?

[brittle atlas]

I don't think they'd be particularly good together

[tight kernel]

Is reign of winter a guaranteed drop from herot?

[brittle atlas]

No, but its his most common drop

like 85 or 90%

[tight kernel]

I see... okay then... will try to reroll and play a chill/freeze build for a change

[glacial bison]

hi, does the 0.8.1 build still good to follow? or i need to specificaly look for 0.8.2

[gentle void]

some things have changed

[brittle atlas]

In almost all cases those builds should be fine

[gentle void]

check patch notes

[brittle atlas]

the only major changes are to shadow daggers and entangling roots on older werebear builds as far as I know

[shrewd prism]

dude i feel you i had an ignite bulid that had a tooltip of ~40k, did so much less in the end than another bulid that had a ~8k tooltip

[brittle atlas]

and shadow daggers isn't really a relevant change to how you build those characters

[gentle void]

just not as good

:p

[bronze ocean]

tooltip dps for dots in general is ok-ish, except for non-stackable ailments, e.g. time rot or spreading flames, because the fact that an enemy can have only X number of stacks is completely ignored in tooltip dps currently. hopefully it will be fixed in the future

[glacial bison]

hi, is there a way to move solo character to a normal one?

[brittle atlas]

esc -> settings -> challenges

you'll only take what's currently in your inventory or equipped afaik

not your stash or shards

[glacial bison]

oh

welp

i didnt know that at first and made 1 solo character to lvl 75

[broken kernel]

do icicles have a freeze rate from reign of winter?

o_O

[brittle atlas]

I’d assume so?

[balmy current]

What do the tags say?

[broken kernel]

nothing about freeze

and ive been running the lizard bowmage build for the past day (admittedly with no freeze multi) but havent heard it once

[brittle atlas]

Cold, spell, attunement, dex

[broken kernel]

no mention of a base freeze rate

[brittle atlas]

But the tooltip for icicle doesn’t have any info about the skill at all, right?

[broken kernel]

time to check tunklab

[broken kernel]

yea

no freeze rate

no freeze

[brittle atlas]

???

It has the same info we have

If we’re going off that it has no base damage either right because it doesn’t say so?

[balmy current]

Sorry, I said tags, I meant the skill description/details

[brittle atlas]

Seems weird to assume when it’s obviously just a barebones tooltip

[balmy current]

it should say if there's a freeze rate

[broken kernel]

yea I agree with llama

i mostly play rogue but any skill with a freeze rate explicitly says so

[balmy current]

It doesn't so I'd assume it can't freeze

[broken kernel]

thats been my anecdotal play experience

[brittle atlas]

Idk, I feel like this case is different given it’s a proc and not an actual skill. The current description is effectively useless- not saying it does have a freeze rate, but using the tooltip to determine that seems suspect to me

[broken kernel]

tunklab would be data mined tho right? Not trying to "win the argument here" just curious

idk if you'd be able to extract info like that but seems something that someone SOMEWHERE must have tested

[brittle atlas]

Tunk doesn’t have any info about the skill beyond its tooltip as far as I could find

[broken kernel]

yea

[hollow socket]

Despite the general consensus on "stack bleed chance":

If I have 200% chance to inflict bleed, the next best upgrade would be 100% bleed duration and not another 100% bleed chance, right?

Since 3 bleeds with standard duration are 3/4 of 2 bleeds with double duration.

[versed willow]

But with the 3 bleeds you're getting your damage out quicker

[hollow socket]

That's true, I agree.

[frigid orbit]

If you have no other realted stats

[versed willow]

Maybe for bosses the longer duration would work better

Since you could stack it up

[frigid orbit]

Miss read the comment. If you have 200% bleed chance and no bleed duration than +100% duration > +100% bleed chance.

[balmy current]

Unless it's poison, it doesn't matter.

[hollow socket]

Well for the total damage, in the example I made.

But no other benefit to it, yeah.

[gentle void]

who is the acolyte master in this community?

[knotty hinge]

which mastery?

[gentle void]

either is fine

just wanting to brain storm some stuff

[knotty hinge]

Arborus, heavy, mao are the ones that come to mind.

[gentle void]

ya ok, i sent arbor a message, hes primarily a lich player tho no?

[knotty hinge]

Yeah I think all 3 are.

[gentle void]

tunk comes to mind for necro

[knotty hinge]

Tunk has that crazy Necro stuff going on

yeah

[gentle void]

but idk him, ive never really spoken to him

[wary shoal]

Am very much expert

Much xp, much knofletsch

[shrewd prism]

this is a bit of a longer question, but how should I approach building my character based on build guides? the items people put in planners are all super ideal, t5+ on everything with the ideal stats. even after empowering MoF it still seems like it would take me forever to farm everything i need to even get close. what affixes/implicits should i prioritize, what affixes/implicits are good replacements, and is there somewhere I can 'learn' efficient gearing in general or is it something you have to pick up with experience in the game?

[knotty hinge]

You don't need T5 everywhere to clear the end game. The prioritization is different per slot and what your character needs. For instance, if you have a t1 or t2 physical res suffix on multiple pieces of gear in order to be phys res capped then an item with T5 phys res is incredibly valuable as it would free up 2 or more suffix slots on gear for supplementary defenses such as health, armor, dodge, etc. For weapons the prefixes are important as they boost damage. Helm, chest, and relics offer many class specific affixes not found on other equipment slots so they vary. Boots and belts are suffix heavy (health is primarily used in both suffix slots and don't sleep on movement speed for boots), jewelry is flex. Gloves are mixed. Blessings can also be utilized to fill in defensive gaps as necessary.

Most build guides are just that - guides. Don't feel obligated to mimic each item and slot unless it requires a build enabling unique.

[broken kernel]

blessings also serve as extra spice that can easily "cap gear" that you "need"

[tight kernel]

is it normal to feel so squishy on empoweredtimeline if you're not level 100

even glancing blow can't save me 😦

[humble bear]

Outside of farming for blessings, is there a reason to farm a specific timeline in empowered monoliths, or is it just farm whatever timeline you want

[knotty hinge]

Farm whatever timeline you want.

[wary shoal]

some uniques drop from specific bosses so thats another thing

[acoustic thicket]

Is there any way to respec passive skills? realized I completely screwed my acolyte

[pale umbra]

there is a brain (icon) NPC that serves this at the council chambers or the end of time

[acoustic thicket]

okay thank you

[wary shoal]

he s also in the storyline at somepoints if you re not at the end of time yet

[tight kernel]

i saw a marksman having passive points invested in bladedancer, how do you do that

[dark fox]

You automatically unlock the lower half of all other masteries' passive trees, when your mastery is selected.

[cloud kindle]

The left half, not lower. 😉

[glacial bison]

hi, im using filter from boardman21 how do i hide the green one since i already at monolith now? my brain is too smooth for this kinda thing

[wide lagoon]

hi guys, I just create my account. And I try to log in. It pop up like this. How can i fix it?

[rough trout]

on the right side, uncheck the green lines

[glacial bison]

yea, tried that, its just make the green one to rare yellow item drop

[rough trout]

Oh, your last line says Hide Normal/Magic, Not Hide Normal/Magic/Rare. Did you change it?

[glacial bison]

nope, i got it and use it as it is, i just want to tinker with it after reaching lvl 70ish

[shrewd prism]

is it possible to see your ladder ranking even if you arent top 100?

[brittle atlas]

I think it only tracks top 100 per mastery?

which you can see on the website

[wary shoal]

i think its only per base class

[brittle atlas]

possible, I know the ladder is pretty limited currently

[broken kernel]

can someone answer some detonating arrow questions? Been playing with the skill for quite some time but still not entirely sure how the interactions work

there are two parts that "hit", the initial arrow dealing 2 base and the explosion after .6 for 30 base. Do they BOTH benefit from the compllete array of bonuses you get for all added/increased/more?

Consequently, doesnt that make the barrage (insta explosion node) REALLY bad? Because you lose the 2+base *inc * multi value of that first hit arrow hit thats 2 damage

or does the arrow still hit, but the explosion hits too, just simultaneously

[balmy current]

Assuming the node doesn't specify "explosion", yes, both the initial arrow & the explosion will benefit from any nodes on the tree.

[balmy current]

The arrow hits then explodes immediately, rather than after the duration.

[broken kernel]

knew I could count on you rofl

how does the rapid detonation/suckerpunch interaction work

since essentially there's an "immediate explosion" from the first arrow, but you cannot "attach a second arrow"

does this mean in essence youd need to fire 4 arrows for 2 explosions?

[balmy current]

if you take Barrage, Suckerpunch doesn't proc

[broken kernel]

right, barrage being the instant explosion

[balmy current]

yup

[broken kernel]

rapid det tho is a common combo

with suckerpunch

i could easily test it (afk atm but still theorycrafting rofl)

but my question is do they interact favorably? (I think no)

[balmy current]

Yup, the second arrow would make the first explode automatically proccing Suckerpunch

[broken kernel]

but does the second arrow "stick around"

[balmy current]

Though all you're getting from Suckerpunch is the doubled area

[broken kernel]

or no, because of sucker punch

[balmy current]

I'd say no due to Suckerpunch

[broken kernel]

yea i believe so too, should be easy to test ill come back later wiht the results

essentially youre spending 2 points to say "2 arrows = instant explosion with 100% more dmg/area, but the 2nd arrow doesnt stick"

i believe thats how it works based off of the language

[balmy current]

yup

[broken kernel]

im soooo curious about if there was ever a broken interaction with the multiple dmg multipliers in the bottom half of the tree and ignite for fire conversion, since dragon arrow is gated behind instant explosion

[balmy current]

Not that I'm aware of

[broken kernel]

who would you say are the premier rogues right now? Besides lizard and tunk

with bowmage/hail or arrows respectively

[brittle atlas]

amarathy for bladedancer

tunk is basically the only hail of arrows player I know

[balmy current]

Nah, 2h melee is where it's at, plus it's getting a buff according to Mike.

[brittle atlas]

No lie, I really wish there was more weapon-agnostic nodes for most classes

[shrewd prism]

if i take flammable toxins in cinder strike, do things like poison duration/penetration also convert to ignite or is it just the chance that gets converted

[balmy current]

No, just chance gets converted

[broken kernel]

interestingly enough iirc detonating arrows increased shock duration affected its uh, poison? not sure which i tested but it lasted for an extra tick from what i remember

but most of those no, dont overlap

[frigid orbit]

If its only one tick it can also be because of your application time. Dots tick numbers are somehow aligned to some 'serverticks' and there can be left over damage which results in an extra tick while doing the same overall damage

[broken kernel]

huh thats super interesting

[balmy current]

Yeah, you need to sum up the total damage you do against the dummy with & without shock duration. I'd assume shock duration doesn't affect poison duration though.

[graceful mural]

Yo, folks, so I just reached the end-game (monolith). And to my surprise I can't seem to return back to the monolith once I port out of it to clear my inventory, I am used to PoE 6 portals, hehe. Monoliths in Last Epoch are one-way-deal, is that so?

[frigid orbit]

Yes

If you have to leave you pick up too much. Selling items is not really worth anything.

[graceful mural]

So, generally speaking, people have tight filters and ignore 95% of the loot? I was picking up stuff to sell during the campaign, and it is a bit boring, I agree.

[frigid orbit]

Yeah. Filter for useful stuff. Items give very little gold in return and gold is mostly only for gambling and/or stash tabs

[graceful mural]

One more question from a total noob here 🙂 I am trying Primalist/Druid/Werebear, with some help from a guide I found online. The build specializes into "Summon Thorn Totem", but this skill is NOT on the action bar, not to mention that my character spends most of the time in the Werebear form. So, why the totem is there? ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[brittle atlas]

You trigger it via idols

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/prefixes/AEwRgHEA

[graceful mural]

Got it!

[frigid orbit]

How is skill hit damage spread? I think someone at some point mentioned something about a damage variance? How big is it?

[balmy current]

+/- 25%

[frigid orbit]

I assume all damage or only for added damage?

Meaning, that the base damage is also effected by it?

[bronze ocean]

resulting damage is spread randomly within [-25% .. 25%] interval

[frigid orbit]

Ty

[balmy current]

It's applied last

[barren iris]

What does it mean when items have 0 1 or 2 dots by their name when they are on the ground ?

[terse roost]

prefixes and suffixes

shows how many of each

[granite dew]

Ruined era ots name?

[knotty hinge]

Unsure but they do have a playlist - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29NSMqPPAlk&list=PLKe5tdZxTG1VLDyTUfO2v7-DBenhV1ptp

I read that as ost, please clarify if you meant something else sorry.

[granite dew]

Yes, I meant to say ost

[broken kernel]

do numbers round normally, round up, or truncate?

[gentle void]

normally numbers round up, iirc

[bronze ocean]

actually, numbers are rounded to nearest even integer - a so-called banker's rounding

[broken kernel]

:oooo really?

ilu dammitt

[bronze ocean]

yeah, that's default mathf.round functionality in unity

[broken kernel]

so 101% cdr on shift (3second CD)

wow TIL never used unity before

would have a 1.4 second cd?

3/2.01 = 1.4925

if im not mistaken

[bronze ocean]

well, the rounding to even int occurs only for 0.5 values, I mean 10.5 is rounded to 10, and 11.5 is rounded to 12

[broken kernel]

o

that makes way more sense rofl

so that breakpoint SHOULD be 107% cdr then i believe

3/2.07 = 1.4492 ~ 1.45

[tight kernel]

does the monolith modifier affect shade boss?

[knotty hinge]

Most do unless they specify "Rare enemies"

[tight kernel]

what's the max corruption increase by a single shade boss?

i've seen 11 so far

[brittle atlas]

18 or 20

[knotty hinge]

I'm not sure about max but the highest I've seen is 18 or 20.

[broken kernel]

has anyone ever done the math on the breakpoints for added vs inc vs multi in LE? Im curious

in 9/10 cases in the game added is better than more increased, but you could mathematically make a comparison between the three values pretty easy i suppose, and certain builds likely reach the threshold. I might try to do that later.

[brittle atlas]

Quite easily

[tight kernel]

thanks guys

[balmy current]

The devs have said before that the rounding is only used for display purposes, when the game is calculating something it uses the "proper" (un-rounded) value.

[balmy current]

added, inc & more generally don't fight for the same slot. Added & inc are both on the weapon prefix (added is better), more is only on the skill tree (apart from a few places where it's on some passives as well).

So while you could do some maths to see whether added/inc/more is better, you'd likely never need to use it 'cause you're unlikely to need to make that choice.

[broken kernel]

added is on plenty of passive nodes (im mostly playing rogue and sentinel but ive seen it otherwise, as well as skill nodes too)

and stuff like the mourningfrost boots come to mind

its quite min/maxy for sure but still

[broken kernel]

Can triggers proc off of triggers?

For example icicle from reign of winter into decimate from gaspars insight

My guess is no

Since it says "when you USE a spell"

[balmy current]

Not if it's "use a spell", no

But a Throwing Axe can proc a Smite

[broken kernel]

But what if i put my hat on my bow

[grave yarrow]

I have done the math for certain skills. It's all really relative to one another. Also skills have different Added damage effectiveness so it is not the same for all skills. Crit Multi and Increased damage is the easiest, if you have 100% crit chance then that is effectively = 200% increased. It's really a case by case scenario and you would need a damage calculator (which I have a scuffed version on google sheets) to be able to tell.

It's all about balancing everything

[balmy current]

Crit multi is effectively a 100% more multiplier (assuming 100% crit chance) rather than 200% increased.

[tight kernel]

oh my gosh i shattered my main weapon 😦

no way to roll back save file yeah?

[cloud kindle]

I fear not

[tight kernel]

T.T

[devout oriole]

So I have been using Hope in th eHoly Aura chain, when an enemy dies within Holy Auras area of effect it has a chance to spawn a health globe that heals for 70. It then scales with healing effectiveness, is this branch a total waste of a minimum of 5 skill points which I could be putting into resistance? I really cannot find any builds or even a mention of the node on discord so starting to think its a waste?

[brittle atlas]

There's basically no reason to take it at the moment given the strength of leech

Healing for at most a few hundred when an enemy dies is nothing compared to being able to recover hundreds per second via leech

[devout oriole]

Cool, makes sense cheers

[grave yarrow]

I think what he meant was how to balance out these stats, because all sources of damage are each multiplicative with one another

[snow spruce]

That certainly depends on how you define "sources" but yes.

[hollow socket]

Does "hollow lich" turn drain life's 30% leech into 300% increased damage?

[brittle atlas]

I wouldn't think so? but should easy enough to test

[balmy current]

it should, yes

[brittle atlas]

hollow lich in general isn't a great node atm though due to the insane strength of leech

[balmy current]

It's free damage if you're low life though

[brittle atlas]

that's part of why low life is bad too xd

it does look like it works that way though

[rustic marlin]

This is for Mike 🙂 Who HAS NEVER seen impractical jokers, he's a living mirror of Q from the show.

even the way he says certain things sounds like him lol

[trim heath]

Where is the one of Q?

[balmy current]

I believe that's he good looking one.

[trim heath]

ow, my pride

[broken kernel]

has anyone died, completed the same shade of oro fight, and dropped the ammy?

am curious 🤔

[knotty hinge]

Yeah, I die a lot.

A lot a lot.

[broken kernel]

kk lol

[lethal sand]

Hi there guys. I just discovered this game and i saw that it is not finished yet and its on beta.

will the full game release bring a multiplayer mode?

[versed owl]

Hi guys, i have just completed my first empowered mono, What blessing should i choose? - 22 % increase unique drop, 63% increase huge idol drop, 22% increase glyph drop rate, or keep my 6% experience?

@lethal sand yes multiplayer is coming

[lethal sand]

thank you shady. And have the development team announced when?

[versed owl]

This year sometime i believe

[lethal sand]

alright! Many thanks for your answer. Have a nice one 🙂

[brittle atlas]

I would say keep the experience if you're not yet 100

[polar bough]

as summon necro, would it be better to take +1 max skeleton or +1 lvl to Summon Skeleton? Not too sure how skill levels are valued in this game

[terse roost]

what does it mean when it says the area level is (scaled)?

[steel phoenix]

Question for the community:
have they said anything hinting towards multiplayer during the streams?

[knotty hinge]

A dev announcement with a FAQ about multiplayer will be available soon. It will not contain the release date for multiplayer as they have no way of knowing it yet.

[steel phoenix]

Thank you lots Tny. i ahven't been able to attend the streasm sadly... so this is really appreciated

[knotty hinge]

np

[still wolf]

if im level 42 and go into a level 45 map will I get more XP ?

[cosmic shard]

is there a decent mage build that uses flame reave?

[snow spruce]

Yes

[snow spruce]

There is some sort of scaling to it, but I'm not sure exactly what it is -- Llama answered this the other day either here or in the forums somewhere

[cosmic shard]

I found a piece of gear with +3 to flame reave so I was considering trying to make something to use it

n/m just +1

[tight kernel]

does the skills tooltip reflect only base dmg?

or it includes everything like your passive and gear buffs

[snow spruce]

They're fairly accurate, but not completely accurate. I'm fairly certain it takes into account non-conditional things in your passives. It does take into account your gear (you can witness this by changing weapons for instance)

[tight kernel]

i've had 3 different quivers give me pretty much the same dps

[snow spruce]

If they change it, then they're taking it into account, though it could be inaccurate just due to the stats on the quiver.

[snow spruce]

The DPS between the three shouldn't be all that massively different

[tight kernel]

yeah was surprised about the 2nd one

1st and 3rd are carbon copy

of course, i went for speed and utility given dps is about the same

[snow spruce]

Yeah

[tight kernel]

i mean, all the roller coaster emotional rides of crafting and there's not much difference

lol

[tight kernel]

if you die in monolith the modifier doesn't -1 right?

[peak ether]

Hey everyone, i have a problem - i stacked too much mods on monolith so i cant do bosses - is there any way to remove mods from monolith progression?

all except bosses are fine but i cant do them at all

[wary shoal]

there are special nodes that for example reveal stuff that dont give mods

but consume a charge

also some mods are much easyer then others

if you carefully choose the mods it gets easyer

[peak ether]

thats was im afraid of, thank you

[tight kernel]

any tips for lakeside arena? there's no loop to run round and round

[knotty hinge]

Is that the one with the bridge over a small brook?

[tight kernel]

yeah

i am running diagonal and throwing decoy's at top left and bottom right to create space to run lol

some mobs are so big...

[analog stump]

wewt 2 weeks of doing empowered argentus
does his wings need X minimum corruption or do i just have shit RNG zzz

[broken kernel]

are there any "trigger when damage taken" effects in LE?

im sure there are, i suppose i should be more specific, skills

[balmy current]

It's a 10% chance to drop on the empowered monolith

[knotty hinge]

Mage has Chance to cast fire aura when hit but it has a 1 second cooldown.

[broken kernel]

and you cant ever change those cooldowns huh? :/

[brittle atlas]

some passives like that have follow-ups with CDR for them

[wary shoal]

you can get more chance

theres also other stuff

on the arch mage skill i think

[balmy current]

No

[ruby garden]

did the item valeroot change recently? it does something very different from what all the wikis say

[hollow socket]

The thing fandom has looks really overpowered, 40% more base damage is madness.

Wouldn't be surprised if it was changed with intent to nerf^^

[snow spruce]

Which wiki? The most updated and best sources for information are lastepochtools.com and lastepoch.tunklab.com

[ruby garden]

ah

yes i saw it on atleast 3 different websites with +spell base damage %

but tunklab has the correct version

[balmy current]

That'll be from before they converted all % spell base damage to adaptive spell damage then

[quartz yew]

So chat in game gets kind of busy so it's hard to ask questions there so I'll ask mine here haha! What's the difference between the blue ? and the gold ? on my map?

[knotty hinge]

blue are side quests gold are main

[quartz yew]

Ty!! 🙂

[final tide]

when clearing base level monoliths for the quests, when/should i reset for corruption if i just want stability as fast as possible?

[balmy current]

Maybe once.

[knotty hinge]

On normal I typically do it at the very end when I can use it to accumulate the required stability to complete the third quest.

[quartz yew]

So playing a Primalist for the first time and sooo excited I just got a totem (was hoping they'd get totems) and was wondering, would it make sense for me to carry a staff since I think totems are considered spells and spell damage would help with totem damage?
Also I start out with a dog, is that considered a minion for like minion damage?

[final tide]

when you hover over a spell, the bottom of the tooltip shows all of the "tags" that will affect the item

so if the totem has the tag "spell", then anything affecting spell damage will work. some thing with the wolf and the "minion" tag

[quartz yew]

Okay sweet, so when I hover over the totem it does say minion tags, spell and totem so does that mean my totem is considered a minion and is effected by spell damage?

[final tide]

should be, yeah!

[quartz yew]

Awesome that is a HUGE help and thanks for telling me about the tags 🙂 That'll come in handy big time!

[final tide]

no problems at all. happy hunting

[balmy current]

Minion spell damage, not player spell damage.

[quartz yew]

Ooh so there's a minion spell and a regular spell damage. Dangit, okay sooo much to learn. Ty!

[balmy current]

Yeah, with minions, there's two rows of tags. The first is the tags for the skill you use (to summon the minion), the second is the tags that the minions uses.

https://imgur.com/TWl6zdq

Like Summon Vine, the first row shows that it's a minion skill & it scales with attunement

the second shows that the vine uses a melee & poison skill

[quartz yew]

Is there a way to remove a gem from a piece of gear so I can replace it with something else?

[terse roost]

what do you mean a gem?

[quartz yew]

Sorry I'm new not sure what they're called but when you use the forge, the gems you can put in gear?

[terse roost]

affix shards

you cant really "remove" them

you can randomly delete one affix on an item or you can shatter the item to get random affix shards based on the affixes it has

[quartz yew]

Hmm okay that stinks but thanks

[lone flume]

guys is Doom DoT can only be buffed by %Void damage and %DoT damage increase? No spell, no attunement etc?

[snow spruce]

What skill is applying Doom?

[lone flume]

not a skill but some unique items

[balmy current]

Correct, that & the attribute the applying skill uses (strength, etc) & any relevant modifiers the skill has.

Doom is an ailment just like poison or bleed.

[lone flume]

So if Doom is applied by Devouring Orb it gets buffed by Attunement like DO?

[balmy current]

yes

and any % void or % generic damage modifiers from DO's tree.

I'd expect the void rift damage modifier from the Rift Caller node to affect Doom.

[lone flume]

but what about Extinction node?

DO tree

[balmy current]

If it didn't say "hits" then yes.

[lone flume]

guys need your advice plz. I can't decide which blessing is better for my VK. I have 4900 + armor (with self-buffs) and 43% Endurance. So which blessing to take - 14% End. or 180 Armor. What 'd you think?

End. Threshold is 405 atm

[brittle atlas]

You want to cap endurance

[noble pelican]

how do i get to the stolen lance? I unlocked the timeline and there's a quest that says discover the timeline conduit but i don't see how to get there

[knotty hinge]

There's a bridge to the left of the waypoint

Walk towards it and it will build

[noble pelican]

Thank you i've been trying to access it from the fall of the outcasts since in the map it shows it's there not at the original starting point

[ruby garden]

i can barely see anything on the screen with 7 stacks of fire aura and double disintegrate beam channeling, are there any settings i can improve to see enemy projectiles better - graphics or gameplay settings?

[brittle atlas]

Anyone else experienced Shade of Orobyss animation-canceling himself?

in my current fight he's summoning the big slow falling meteor, then canceling the end of that animation and immediately going into his void charge with no windup/tell

[ruby garden]

i saw it today a couple of times, although i dont even know how the meteor animation ends to say for sure he cancels it

[brittle atlas]

honestly the biggest issue is that his voice for his charge happens when he's already halfway done with it

by the time you hear it you're already dead unless you were super far away

and if you're super far away you can get killed by stuff that has no voice line

because he's offscreen

[knotty hinge]

Is this what you're talking about? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XssZklIFzdk Just uploaded so the quality is no good , couldn't figure out the Sharex thing.

[brittle atlas]

yup

exactly that

[knotty hinge]

Are you playing melee?

[brittle atlas]

not exactly?

[knotty hinge]

The voice line issue was something I only noticed while in close proximity with him.

Perhaps it's just more prevalent while in melee range

Regardless, I know the issue but don't have a solution.

[brittle atlas]

I'm currently fighting a fire orboyss with the sequential rings, flame breath, 3 fire orb things, charge, falling meteor, and the small void explosion he places under you

and the main issue is trying to be far enough away I can dodge the charge while still being able to see the flame breath visual

and not screwing myself with the sequential ring positioning

[knotty hinge]

Try staying closer to him and void explosion under you and charge won't be cast. You'll just have to deal with his auto attack

[brittle atlas]

there's also a very weird delay on transplant at times

I'm doing something a bit uh

suboptimal atm and his auto attack 1 shots me

I mean, anything 1 shots me

but

[knotty hinge]

Oh I totally get that

[brittle atlas]

when I kill him I'll share

@knotty hinge https://streamable.com/lzwsx6

[knotty hinge]

LOL THE END

Wait you did that without gear?

[brittle atlas]

yeah

[wary shoal]

nice

[brittle atlas]

SSF viable build 🙂

[knotty hinge]

Halfway through the video I was going to comment to say how jealous I am every time I watch your shade fights but then you had to do that to me.

I recently bricked my spellblade's timeline at 457 corruption so bad that I'm contemplating creating another one and you get to waltz around without gear on.

f me

Anyways, that was awesome. Clean kill and I love the concept but also somewhat despise you for it.

[brittle atlas]

It did take me like

32 attempts

to actually do

lol

[knotty hinge]

You're doing echos with gear though right?

Just tell me yes to keep me sane

[brittle atlas]

of course

I don't hate myself that much lol

I just wanted to see if I could do orobyss naked

[knotty hinge]

So sick. You don't even have your omnis available on that guy yet you still suicided. This just keeps getting worse and worse for me.

[brittle atlas]

what do you mean

[knotty hinge]

I thought you only had 1 amulet on your non-ssf char and you jumped into the flame circle as a flex.

[brittle atlas]

I do only have one amulet

but

yolo

[knotty hinge]

So it was a flex

you're sick

[echo schooner]

Hi, I'm a bit confused about damage conversion and skill types. If I convert lightning blast to cold damage, does it still count as a "lightning skill" for passives like this?

[ruby garden]

I think you can hover the skill and see the lists of tags to understand which ones apply, I would assume it wouldnt count as a lightning skill anymore

[echo schooner]

I guess you mean the scaling tags? yeah it only says cold now and lightning is gone. Thank you ^^

[mint venture]

Does anyone know if you can change the keybind for standing still and attacking. Right now it is left shift but I would like it to be spacebar

[spare pewter]

F

[quartz yew]

Okay so question, if I make a Primalist and decide to go Beastmaster then later want to try Druid, do I make a new character for that or am I able to respec the Beastmaster character?

[brittle atlas]

You can't change your mastery and need to make a new character.

[quartz yew]

Okay awesome. That's actually kind of neat because than I can have both and play both. Good deal ty!

[tender marsh]

Is the last epoch tools website working?
I'm trying to open up a build planner but it's stuck on 5%

[cerulean axle]

if you're talking about Dammitt's site then it's working fine for me

[wary shoal]

Try rloafing3

[tender marsh]

this is how the site looks for me. Dunno why, reloading doesn't work too

[brittle atlas]

weird

[tender marsh]

does now, weird

I guess complaining works

[balmy current]

Welcome to England.

[quartz yew]

So my maps are being littered with gear from previous characters I've made. Is there any way to clear that up?

[trim heath]

Can you be more specific, I have never heard of that happening. And I'm not sure I quite understand.

[quartz yew]

So I made a Mage for my first character and I did use a filter but didn't always pick up everything that dropped, only what may have been better than what I had. I made a Primalist alt and, of course you go back through the same maps (story) and all the stuff I didn't pick up as my Mage was still on the ground and I couldn't touch it.

[trim heath]

Super duper bug

!bug

[ripe brook]

Please post bug reports on our forum: https://forum.lastepoch.com/c/bug-reports. Thanks!

[quartz yew]

Okay will do 🙂

[trim heath]

Thanks

[quartz yew]

Okay I posted it on the forums. The only thing that has resolved it was uninstalling and re-installing so at least I know there's some sort of fix for the moment 🙂

[mellow maple]

what are some very easy to get going builds for beginners?

[slate oak]

Is there anything else I need to do for Omnis to drop except kill Shade in empowered monos at a few hundred corruption? I've killed him quite a few times now at around 350-400 corruption, quite far out in the web if possible (usually at 15+ stability rewards). got all 3 other uniques already, just Omnis is missing. those who have gotten one already, how many kills did it take, roughly?

[brittle atlas]

I didn’t get mine until 470 ish

And have yet to see another so far at a bit over 600

It’s just not a very common drop, even when you try to maximize your chances

[slate oak]

hmkay, thanks

[quartz yew]

If I get inflicted with 'bleed' what is that

[broken kernel]

physical DoT

[quartz yew]

Oh yikes okay

I got that Bleeding Heart amulet and I can't see anything good about equipping it.

[broken kernel]

plenty of builds can ignore the weaknesses

[quartz yew]

Oh okay. Everything about it just seemed bad lol

[brittle atlas]

Yeah, if you’re not casting spells or if you’re not scaling bleed/phys damage then it’s one of the few sources of global leech

[slate oak]

welp, just got one from my first kill after writing this

all I had to do was complain lol

[broken kernel]

lucky T_T

[slate oak]

probably, not sure what the odds are

[broken kernel]

link the drop!

[slate oak]

https://youscreen.de/roiuchqfu57.jpg

could be better, could be worse

[broken kernel]

basically average!

maybe slightly above lol

[slate oak]

yeah

honestly I just wanted one just to have it lol

[broken kernel]

understandable

[slate oak]

going for a full unique collection

[terse roost]

thats a pretty good lookin ammy

guessing the range on all the resists are like 1-40?

[slate oak]

1-45

on the crit its 5-35

[brittle atlas]

Solid roll

[terse roost]

reminds me of ventor's but you cant reroll uniques

[broken kernel]

yea

ventors effect with watchers rarity

[slate oak]

I wonder if the Increased Amulet Drop Rate Blessing from The Stolen Lance influences the drop rate of unique amulets like Omnis too

or do unique drops not work like that

[brittle atlas]

It doesn’t impact boss drops to my knowledge

But does impact normal unique amulet drops

[slate oak]

ah okay, good to know

[noble pelican]

Anyone running at 1440p? Getting 144fps?

[terse roost]

i was for a few days. fps seemed pretty solid 140+ with a few hiccups. but i also have a pretty beefy pc, so mileage may vary

[tender marsh]

I think the hidden gems quest is bugged for me. I have the defend yourself from the assasins part despite being done with that part

[brittle atlas]

I think you can just go to where Argos is to complete it right?

[quartz yew]

When something says, "on hit" does that mean it has to be melee or can the hit come from my minions/companions?

[pseudo cipher]

Any hit from you. For minions it his to be specified as being for them.

[quartz yew]

Oh okay. Good to know. I rarely melee so most of those won't pertain to me.

I just spam minions haha

[glacial bison]

hi, i have a problem with this quest, after i go to maj'elka, there's no quest marker or something

[brittle atlas]

it should be along the southern path in the zone

https://streamable.com/pf8qwe

[glacial bison]

gotcha, ty

hahahaha i love the video aswell

[brittle atlas]

I went there to confirm for myself that it was what I thought it was, so figured I may as well record a quick video of the map just to be clear

[glacial bison]

i just complete it idk i already make 4 character and i never have this problem

the quest marker just not there

[brittle atlas]

my guess is you ran past it while leveling, I think once you get close to the area it gets rid of the marker

[glacial bison]

oh i absolutely ran past it on this character

well i guess im just smooth brained

ill just do all the side on the zone after this char

[cosmic shard]

can someone give me recommendations on how to improve my primalist?

[brittle atlas]

Yeah, idk which quests it effects exactly, but some of them have like location/proximity based markers

so if you get close to the marker it goes away

[brittle atlas]

best way is to probably import your character into the character builder and ask in the primalist channel

hard to give specific advice without knowing your gear/tree/skills

[cosmic shard]

ah ok

ok

[tight kernel]

does icicle trigger on hit chances?

or spells in general for that matter

[lone flume]

is Armor Shread good for non-physical damage builds too?

[lucid rover]

Trying to get the shattered lance relic, but i do not know how boss drops work. am i unlucky at 4 swords in a row or is there a thing i have to do to unlock the other drops?

[little ether]

I'm waiting to get into this game because I want to play an online character. I wish they would give us a release date for multiplayer 😦

[still wolf]

Seriously play it solo

its still super fun and there is a chat

[balmy current]

Yes, just not quite as good as for physical hit builds

[balmy current]

The relic has a 15% chance to drop, the sword has 85% chance to drop, you just need to keep on at it.

[lucid rover]

ty sir

[cloud kindle]

Only DoTs don't hit and therefore don't trigger on hit chances

[balmy current]

Today I learned - the DoT pools in the Dragon Emperor fight aren't bleed they're a % of current HP that ignores ward.

We've been standing here for a while...

[wary shoal]

so lowlife builds are actually benefitting from it?

[balmy current]

Kinda, they can ignore it at least.

[cloud kindle]

But if anything hits you, you're in deep trouble.

[manic compass]

does endurance threshold kick in during big hits or if i get hit a 1k with 1k life im just getting one shot?

[pseudo cipher]

It kicks in as soon as you reach the threshold, so the 1k hit will have damage mitigation for the portion under the threshold

[candid lark]

Hey, anyone here who knows how to extract item names/db from the game assets? Read somewhere dammit uses game files to generate the item db, but I can't seem to understand how to read the game files

[wary shoal]

thats the point. the hits would go into the ward

[balmy current]

Endurance affects any damage you take under the threshold regardless of whether you were above the threshold when you took the hit. If you had a threshold of 1k & took 1,001 damage, the first 1 damage wouldn't be affected by Endurance but the remaining 1,000 would.

[jagged cradle]

If a skill has penetration, does it also apply to dots it apply?

[brittle atlas]

I believe yes unless the penetration specifies hits?

[snow spruce]

That was my inclination as well Arborus, but I couldn't find anything official on it

[acoustic thicket]

Any way to look at your current xp/xp till next level?

[brittle atlas]

top left corner of the character sheet has current xp iirc

[balmy current]

Penetration is just another effect to be inherited & not treated differently to any other

[lofty sail]

pardon if its clear elsewhere but, for the spriggan form passive that makes healing totem fire thorns and specifically copy a bunch of thorn totem skill tree, is it supposed to only fire once as it arrives? the description implied that healing totems would just also be thorn totems, and the thorn totem upgrade that returns mana when a thorn totem dies works in the spriggan form, so it kinda counts it as a thorn totem, but not actually. is this working as intended?

[tight kernel]

hey folks, just started a necro and wanted to know, does + poison damage buff my minions?

or must it state 'minion'?

[brittle atlas]

it has to specifically say minions

[tight kernel]

awww ok

[severe lance]

guys, is there no way to lock my cursor in game so it stops flying off to my 2nd monitor?

[terse roost]

iirc theres a setting

[knotty hinge]

At the bottom of gameplay

Lock cursor to game window

[severe lance]

thank you so much!! ^^

[lucid umbra]

ello, poe transplat with a few questions

Build wise, if i commit to something how locked in am i?

Also suggestions on good starting builds?

[knotty hinge]

The only thing you cannot change is mastery.

Otherwise, very easy.

[lucid umbra]

I guess my concern is if i pick and skill and find its not my thing or not working as expected it wold suck to restart from scratch

Also builds....is it like you should reallllly follow a build guide or its fine to just fuck around and see what works

[knotty hinge]

Your skills can be swapped at any time. They gain xp much faster than poe gems

watch your language please

Does a certain class interest you?

[lucid umbra]

Oh sorry.

Uh i ended up going with the dude with the wolf head

starts with ripblood

[knotty hinge]

You're sure your character is male?

[lucid umbra]

Nope a women

youre right

[knotty hinge]

You like minion builds?

[lucid umbra]

Yea

Im down with minion builds

[knotty hinge]

The forums have plenty of builds, poke around and find one you like: https://forum.lastepoch.com/c/acolyte/32

[lucid umbra]

will do! thank you for the help!

[rough trout]

The alt-text on Bhuldar's Wrath "Earthquake is Converted To Fire" line says "Only converts base damage not added damage". Does that really mean it is only converting the 2 base physical damage from Earthquake and my "converted" Earthquake is still dealing ~56% physical damage/44% fire damage?

[balmy current]

yup

[rough trout]

Very cool, thanks. Have they stated any plans to change them to full conversions in the near future, or should I just continue %inc melee/phys/spell damage and ignoring fire?

[still wolf]

Can you make it so glyphs show up as a different color ?

[balmy current]

No, they've not mentioned anything. Spell damage would only affect EQ if you take the node that converts it to spell damage (Storm Rift).

[quartz yew]

Do Idols perks stack?

[trim heath]

Yes

[balmy current]

Apart from a small number, such as the Shield Throw void conversion one.

[rough trout]

Or, more likely, the werebear node

[balmy current]

Or that, yes.

[manic lagoon]

guys, where loot filter files are stored on Windows 10?

i want to copy them from one machine to another

[frigid orbit]

You can open the folder from ingame, can't you?

[manic lagoon]

i'm not in the game

just copying my stuff from old pc

most of stuff was deleted

[frigid orbit]

C:\Users\beck\AppData\LocalLow\Eleventh Hour Games\Last Epoch

[manic lagoon]

ty

[rapid pebble]

Have you guys seen Steam Deck? Do you think it will be able to run last epoch?

If yes I'm gonna buy one asap

[knotty hinge]

Dead8ces — 07/15/2021
Will this game work fine on steam deck?
Mike W — 07/15/2021
Having just found out that this exists by your question, I'm not sure yet. If it's streaming the game then probably. If it's running on that device, I doubt it will be powerful enough.

[opaque vigil]

Is there a way to perform a reset of your... how do I put it, shared character space?

I.e., stash, money, tabs, crafting mats

I assume since the game is local atm this is stored in some files somewhere

[balmy current]

You can delete the files, yes.

[opaque vigil]

Do you know which files to delete?

[balmy current]

https://support.lastepoch.com/article/39-the-games-log-file

The Epoch_Local_Global_Data_Beta file & temp version

[opaque vigil]

Neat! This doesn't distinguish between HC or SC or what not, though, does it? 🤔

[balmy current]

yup

that's for the SC file

[opaque vigil]

"hardcore":false,"died":false,"deaths":0,"masochist":false

oh it probably does like this, interesting

[balmy current]

well, to be fair, I have no idea if it's just 1 file for all modes or not

[opaque vigil]

From the way the files are looking I suspect it may examine the files to determine who should see what... so I assume the general stash info is in some other file and it just links to that. 🤔

Oh yeah, the global file says stuff like stashlist, solo or not, how many shards you got, it's all right there in the open 😄

All right, deleting all the files (except the cloud one) in the Saves folder worked, except had to turn off steam cloud first or it brought it back. 🤣

[tight kernel]

does this trigger if my minion kills?

[snow spruce]

I don't believe it does, as your Minions are not "you"

[tranquil kindle]

That's correct

[tight kernel]

thanks, have respec-ed to remove them lol

[urban sable]

lvl 60 or 65 timeline?

[knotty hinge]

65

[gentle void]

you can always go back later on and unlock the 60 one too

[glass sierra]

are we supposed to be able to leave a boss fight after seeing the drops and not having the timeline reset? i.e. not picking a blessing before leaving

I've been leaving after Forneus gives his drops and not been having to gather up all the timeline stability to get another shot at his unique boot drop

[knotty hinge]

You can still do that?

[glass sierra]

with forneus, yes

[knotty hinge]

Yeah the answer was obvious, sorry.

[glass sierra]

my question was more along the lines of am I supposed to be able to do that

[tranquil kindle]

You can still leave, but he won't drop anymore uniques until you reset the timeline, we fixed that pretty recently. It's possible it's bugged and he still drops more, but as far as I'm aware it's not.

[knotty hinge]

Are you on normal or empowered @glass sierra

[glass sierra]

just normal

as Trascochi said, the extra times I killed him, he wasn't dropping any uniques

outside of one that just happened to drop, and had no relations to the boss whatsoever

still, at least I know the lack of boss-specific uniques was an intentional mechanic

well, I know now

there goes the past half hour of farming, I guess 🤷‍♂️

and now I can warn my friends about it if they accidentally stumble across that

[finite prairie]

so is last epoch online now?

[snow spruce]

No

[ripe brook]

Multiplayer's still in development. Here's the latest news: https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/official-last-epoch-multiplayer-faq/42036.

[snow spruce]

!multiplayer

They just dropped some new information today

[noble pelican]

Is there a similar to cast on crit on Last epoch? I like that kind of playstyle.

[cosmic shard]

maybe?

[gray sierra]

Is it intended for you to be able to spawn 2 healing totems with the Efflorescence and Regrowth nodes in Eterra's Blessing? Toying around with it and you get a totem on initial heal, then a 2nd healing totem pops up when the 2nd heal after the hot if you are at >85% life.

[balmy current]

So that was a stealth fix to the exploit since it wasn't mentioned in any of the patch notes?

[noble pelican]

Can spells shotgun?

[balmy current]

Yes if the projectiles are fired sequentially. No if they're fired at the same time (which most are).

[noble pelican]

I see thanks cause i see my ice minion shooting 3 projectiles not sure if all can hit at the same time

[balmy current]

No, they wouldn't. That's to improve their clear rather than single target DPS.

[hollow socket]

Shadows can shotgun though, right?

Just overheard it somewhere, never tried it.

[balmy current]

If your shadows were throwing base Shurikens, for example, each shadow would be able to hit a single target once with one of their 3 shuriken.

that's about the only thing that I can think of that shadows can use that fires multiple projectiles.

Ditto for the 3 acid flasks with the node that gives you multiple flasks per throw.

[hollow socket]

Makes sense they meant that, and not actual shotgunning with all 3 projectiles.

[mellow maple]

anyone have any suggestions on any builds that start feeling good to play from the get go?
not sure if just me, but most of the builds i see look like they only start getting good once you hit a certain gear level or once you have 3- 4 skill specializations with a decent amount of points in them

[knotty hinge]

Do you have a specific class in mind?

[mellow maple]

not really

[knotty hinge]

Warpath Sentinel is pretty fluid from the start and you unlock it really early (level 2?). It's the whirlwind/cyclone build if you're into that playstyle.

[mellow maple]

ill be sure to have a look at that

thanks for the suggestion

which mastery would you say is good for the warpath route?

@knotty hinge ?

[broken kernel]

"damage taken -5% is additive"?
If I have two sources of -5%, itd be 10% correct?

im only asking because i have a case where

[frigid orbit]

Different sources should be multiplicative.

[broken kernel]

there's an increase AND a -% and it says "is multi"

[frigid orbit]

Where?

[broken kernel]

"damage taken while moving (multi. with other mods) on rogue tree for example

VS

[knotty hinge]

Paladin is pretty common.

[broken kernel]

"40% less damane taken while moving"
Wings of argentus

[frigid orbit]

Multiplicative

[broken kernel]

clerical error then i suppose?

that it doesnt include that, and the math would be
100* .75* .60= 45

as opposed to 100-25-40=35

[frigid orbit]

I think the rogue talent shows -5% because it is additive per point but yields a unique multiplier

5% less per point would be more irritating as you would assume that talent points stack multiplicative. With the current wording you know that the -5 * 5 is additive and in the end it is a multiplicative source. For wings of argentus you already know that it is a multiplier

[broken kernel]

right

not sure what you meant by "fast" in last sentence

haste?

[frigid orbit]

Some typos accumulated. Multiplicative somehow xD

[broken kernel]

so to confirm essentially, there's no case of "less vs reduced" negative additive vs negative multiplicative a la other arpgs EXCEPT for -x mana cost

no worries lol

any "less" is always multi

and "- NON %" value is always minus the flat value

[frigid orbit]

I do not fully understand what you mean 😄
I think damage reduction is always multiplicative from different sources. Otherwise you could reach immunity. The multiplier though is additive per source. Like for your example for the rogue or the beastmaster's aspect of the boar (15% reduced damage taken and some talents add up to 5*3% additional reduction yielding one final 0.7 multiplier in the end)

[broken kernel]

right. In POE "less" is multiplicative to prevent abuse cases, but they have cases of "reduced" which is additive (subtractive)

[frigid orbit]

They probably should change the wording for all modifiers to less damage taken.

[broken kernel]

right now the only time a flat added amount is added or removed is in the case of "-x mana" mods on certain items

well, tbf im being SUPER particular, but yeah

if i stack wings of argentus, passive nodes from rogue, 100% glancing blows

i get 100% minus - 25% - 40% -24% -35% = -24% damage taken

hahaha, which obviously not how it works

[frigid orbit]

Probably not 😄

[broken kernel]

thanks for humoring me, I know the math and I think i do the math right, but when asking for help boosts the confidence x)

and being corrected is a chance to learn rofl

i found another source of less damage taken! We're at -44% damage taken!

the "enemies think they be hitting me, but they healin" build

[frigid orbit]

Just want to be sure @broken kernel #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs

[broken kernel]

yea i appreciate it rofl

[rigid briar]

You should rather look at the description rather than only at the stat line. If it says "multiplicative with other modifiers" it is multiplicative, if it doesn't then it's additive. We don't have many sources of additive reduced damage taken.

[broken kernel]

wings of argentus has no mention of it being multiplicative and id be shocked if it were additive. Is that just clerical or is that an actual exception?

[frigid orbit]

Less/More should always be multiplicative

[broken kernel]

ah and youre asking about reduced

i gotcha

thats what i was asking about before regarding how other games handle it

less vs reduced = more vs increased

[rigid briar]

If it says "less" damage taken, it is multiplicative.

[rigid briar]

Correct

[broken kernel]

epic, very good to know ty!

[frigid orbit]

more/less is only additive if its from one sources. Talents which provide 5% more per point are summed up and give one final multiplier.

Thus each talent point is somehow less effective if you look at your relative damage increase -> diminishing return

[rigid briar]

Yes. Otherwise we'd have to write +30% +30% +30% more damage on statlines 😄 They are already adding them together as you allocate more points in skill points. But yes, each point is technically slightly less effective than the first. If it wasn't like that damage would get way out of hand very quick.

[broken kernel]

yea thats how i think of the math in my head tho, or try to at least x)))

[rigid briar]

But different nodes are multiplicative with each other.

[broken kernel]

for .5 seconds i thought freeze multi was INSANE, a flat base rate X values in the hundreds?!?

it was not the case...

[frigid orbit]

Just another Multiplier in the numerator.

[hollow socket]

I've re-read this conversation and I'm lost at one point:

What is the base that gets multiplied when you have no "reduced damage taken" stat?

I was thinking one of the "less" would serve as it, but which?

[rigid briar]

1 or 100%.

[broken kernel]

(1-reduced)*less

[frigid orbit]

Unmitigated_damage * (1- less damage source) * (1- less damage source) * ...

[broken kernel]

otherwise

[hollow socket]

This one makes sense, explains why there's no specific order stated. Thanks!

[frigid orbit]

But if there are any real reduced damage sources you would also have one multiplier of the form (1 - (sum of reduces))

[broken kernel]

and thatd be first, before the less multiplications right?

[frigid orbit]

Irrelevant. Multiplication.

[broken kernel]

because otherwise you get back into a negative situation

err, yea youre right

[crude leaf]

Guys I get this message tonight after playing hasppily in the past : [LE-29] LINKING ACCOUNT FAILURE. VISIT SUPPORT.LASTEPOCHGAME.COM FOR MORE INFORMATION.

[mellow maple]

OK. Thanks

[crude leaf]

please help me I bought this game via steam on the 6th of JUly I havew been playing it since. Tonight they game won't allow me to connect because of li9nking account fail;ure. I cannot go to the website; my antivirus says the forums and website is infected with a phising malware

[random dock]

your AV is wrong

add the site to the exceptions list

its a false positive

[deep marsh]

guys, is it me or this game have major heat issues ? my games run at 80*C plus sometimes jump to 90+

it's not even a very hardware dependant games

i have no issue with other similar games

just this game is very very hot

someone has a fix ?

[random dock]

the game is unoptimized

enable vsync

[deep marsh]

what can you do about it

other than vsynce

[random dock]

lower settings

[deep marsh]

is there a config that i can switch somewhere ?

[random dock]

other than that not much

you can also try streamer mod

[deep marsh]

are the devs not gonna do sth about it ?

[random dock]

mode*

yes

[deep marsh]

i did go streamer mode

[random dock]

its a constant WIP

especially for MP

[deep marsh]

right

ty for the info

[wheat saddle]

id recommend you streamer mode

woops my bad i just read the end of the convo

[polar bough]

do you absolutely need to have mana items as mage? it seems very slow and clunky to play meteor + fireball when I have to use Focus every single time

[gentle void]

yeah mana regen is very nice

imo

and you can get damage taken as mana which is also really nice

also i think there is a interaction with meteor and fireball where it gives you mana back

@polar bough

[tight kernel]

how do you actually damage your own bone golem? noob necro here lol

[snow spruce]

Infernal Shade can do it, Rip blood, Dread Shade -- there might be other ways, but these are what come to mind immediately

[balmy current]

Infernal Shade has the DoT tag so it can't hit which is required (or should be) for the retaliation.

Rip Blood & Marrow Shards both have nodes to target minions.

[wary shoal]

The life vaccume can do it aswell

[balmy current]

Drain Life?

'Cause that also has the DoT tag so shouldn't

[wary shoal]

I think it can hit

Not sure though

[balmy current]

No, it has the DoT tag, though it can target minions with the Grim Harvest node

[hollow socket]

I have a drain life build and it cannot hit. The stun is just added as a guarantee if you pick the node, but not a hit.

[tight kernel]

is someone an expert on dread shade here? if i select enemy of my enemies, does it work with frenzied phantom? testing on the dummy, i don't see a difference in attack speed

[balmy current]

It does, but there does appear to be a bit of a delay before you get the Frenzy effect. Plus the Frenzy effect is only for 1-5 seconds after Dread Shade attaches to a target.

[forest nova]

about the arena waves, I was taking a look at the ladder and I have a question: Do you have to beat all the waves without resetting or do they save your progress at some point?

[rain nebula]

Hey boys and girls, what settings do I need to use to avoid micro stutters and fps drops? I usually have 90 fps, but in battles it drops to 45-50

[trim heath]

Vsync or streamer mode

[snow spruce]

True, I didn't think about that when looking at the node.

[balmy current]

You have to restart each time from either wave 0 or 80 if you have a gold key (which are guaranteed if you voluntarily leave the arena at or after wave 80 plus you can get them as a monolith reward).

[strange cove]

@bronze ocean henlo, I was wondering, since you've built lastepochtools (thanks, helpful site!), do you happen to recall information on which affix has which "id" in the loot filter XML (in case i want to build my own editor)? Also, I'm very interested in affix tier drop rates (per char level? area level? not sure what it depends on...). If you know anything about those, would appreciate if you could share some insight. 🙂 Thank you.

[balmy current]

The devs don't want open conversation about how to datamine.

[glass sierra]

Does dual wielding take the base attack rate from whichever weapon is faster, or does it default to the main hand? Or is it something else entirely?

[balmy current]

It averages the implicit attack speed & adds up everything else.

[acoustic thicket]

To anyone that follows the pace of the games development happen to have a guess when the missing specializations will be implemented. Probably end of the year I'm guessing?

[balmy current]

Nope, IMO more likely next year since multiplayer is coming out this year (likely the end of the year, IMO).