❔┃ask-the-community

[cerulean dew]

I can try

[sharp current]

Just throw it up, someone will know.

[edgy thicket]

Does anyone here have any input to help me choose between phys wolves or lightning wolves? I'll be starting phys wolves but I'm not sure if I should start farming for howl of the west wind asap and transition to lightning or simply stick to phys and scale that.

[native sail]

Phys can transition into squirrels. Squirrels are busted.

[steel basalt]

Thanks
I'm completely naked lvl 8. Hammer throw base does 21 damage. I have 36% increased damage from STR. Calculation should be 21x1.36 correct?

[edgy thicket]

Yeah I did consider squirrels, but it seems like a pain to farm

[native sail]

It is a bit rare. If you don't wanna go squirrels go lightning imo

[edgy thicket]

So I wanted to think of wolves in a vacuum

[toxic echo]

yeah. but there is also mob defense, and attacks have like a +/- 10% roll as well

[steel basalt]

I understand but my hammer throw dps says 62

[toxic echo]

tooltip dps is horribly inaccurate

[sacred shell]

How hard is it the farm the squirrel helm? Is it like super rare?

[wicked plover]

have you considered your attack speed

[wicked plover]

it's not common

[native sail]

Tied for third rarest helmet in the entire game.

[steel basalt]

Also my crit strike multiplier says 200% do I add that as well?

[toxic echo]

hammer throw has its own attack speed modifier

tooltip will add that into the calc, yes

[wicked plover]

of course, with your crit chance

[native sail]

And iirc in the fourth rarest item by reroll bracket

[viral kettle]

oh, tnx, gonna try that..

[steel basalt]

how do I calculate crit multiplier with crit chance into dps?

[wicked plover]

everything goes into your tooltip that would increase your dps

[edgy thicket]

It's not that I specifically don't want to go squirrels. I just don't want to farm it. So I'm more interested in knowing if lightning or phys wolves are considered stronger

[toxic echo]

also any passives with bleed chance or something, will also be taken into effect

[sharp current]

I'll just leave this hear if you really want to dive into the damage calculation. https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/resources/damage-explained

[wicked plover]

you dont, tooltip does 😄 thats what its there for

[steel basalt]

Maybe I don't need to understand it that in depth

[native sail]

Then yeah. Lightning us stronger than base phys wolves with proper gearing.

[edgy thicket]

Nice

[toxic echo]

its one of the reasons its not super accurate

[edgy thicket]

I was hoping for that answer lol

Ty

[steel basalt]

I think it's very accurate tbh

[native sail]

It's not

[toxic echo]

once you get to ch 7 and get to the dummies, you can get a better idea on dmg stuff

[sharp current]

Its not

[native sail]

Not at all

[steel basalt]

I think it's adding things we aren't

[native sail]

My guy

[steel basalt]

relax

im learning

[sharp current]

Its as accurate as a blind man throwing a dart at a dart board in another building.

[wicked plover]

it is accurate in calculating your stats into a dps number, it wont count special effects or buffs you would have during combat or stuff like that

[steel basalt]

hang up ur pride for 3 minutes

[native sail]

???

[toxic echo]

i promise you havent learned anything that people with 1000+ hours havent already learned and is trying to tell you

at lvl 8, the tooltip is likely prettya ccurate since there arent many numbers. at higher levels that actually matter, it is not accurate at all

[sharp current]

The tooltip can't account for a plenthora of things like temporary buffs, enemy defenses, etc. Its not even in the same realm as accruate. Its a very rough estimate.

[toxic echo]

which is also why we have dummies in chapter 7, to get a better idea of our baseline damage

when your damage actually starts to matter

[steel basalt]

I think I need to reask my question

I'm completely naked lvl 8. Hammer throw base does 21 damage. I have 36% increased damage from STR. Calculation should be 21x1.36 correct?

[toxic echo]

along with the base attack speed of the skill which effects the damage per second, not damage per throw

but yes

and what passives you might have

[native sail]

Yes. You're probably missing things somewhere but that's the basics.

[steel basalt]

attack speed?

or throw speed rather

[steel basalt]

Nothing

[sharp current]

The skill itself still has base stats that will be factored in.

[toxic echo]

it uses throwing speed, but the skill node is labeled as attack speed

which yes is confusing

but the base speed is what i was reffering to

[native sail]

I never realized HT has dex scaling
Who is using dex on a sentinel?

[sharp current]

There is probably one guy out there

[toxic echo]

forge guard who converts dodge into armour

that you get from dex

kinda like that spear that does it too

[native sail]

I'm sorry I don't think I know that class

[toxic echo]

< this class

lol

[sharp current]

Is that class coming in 1.0?

[wicked plover]

we didnt get any warlock/falconer uniques right? or did i not catch that

[toxic echo]

none announced

[native sail]

[toxic echo]

but we will get them

[wicked plover]

yea i know, i meant on reveal

[steel basalt]

I don't need specifics sorry. I'm trying to understand how I would calculate dps for let's say HT with 36% Increased

would I factor in attack speed?

[native sail]

Yes.

[surreal verge]

OR cast speed,yes.

[toxic echo]

if you want DPS yes.

[sharp current]

Attack speed gets factored in on tooltip

[steel basalt]

mm ok

[toxic echo]

if you want damage per throw, no

[surreal verge]

SO is your crit chance, crit multi, any ailments....

[steel basalt]

Right so its 21 dps with atk speed already in that?

[surreal verge]

Also assumes no mana issues and you can keep spamming it, no cooldowns, best case senario...

[wicked plover]

look at it like this :
if you want to compare a 100% increased physical damage weapon to a 40% crit weapon, tooltip is roughly good enough to give you a dps increase/decrease

you dont need to excel your own dps

[toxic echo]

and this is where the tooltip starts getting weird and inaccurate

[sharp current]

^

[surreal verge]

Eg:you got 10% chance to bleed. it will take it into account.

[native sail]

No that's just the base damage of the skill not the DPS

[steel basalt]

oh duh

right

does crit chance and multiplier get added into the dps tooltip as well?

[sharp current]

Yep

[steel basalt]

i see

[sharp current]

Its part of the equation

[viral kettle]

ahaha that was it, tnx mate:P

[steel basalt]

ok thanks guys

[honest canyon]

So to confirm, damage conversion nodes in Last Epoch mean (unlike in Path of Exile which I am more familiar with) damage scaling for the old damage type no longer has any effect?

[native sail]

Correct

It completely swaps out the scaling

[honest canyon]

Thanks

[opaque token]

Haven't followed in a while but I'm guessing server whipes on 1.0 launch?

[toxic echo]

https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1187326924754788362

[opaque token]

thanks

[gusty idol]

Is there any know problem with accessing chest ?

I cant opent it, no action to open chest :/

[kind spade]

anyone know if the Falconer will be considered minion class?

[native sail]

The falcon is a minion yes

[honest canyon]

Apparently you can preview its skills in some of the online tools like https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/zQqaJlkQ

[neon compass]

Falconer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Release / 1.0.0 PTR

Class:

Rogue (22) / Blade Dancer (8) / Falconer (79)

General:

▸ Health: 1,575, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 174, Regen: 9/s
▸ Ward Retention: 16%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 4 Str / 115 Dex / 4 Int / 4 Att / 4 Vit
▸ Resistances: 85% / 62% / 85% / 72% / 67% / 97% / 73%
▸ EHP: 10,970 / 9,727 / 10,970 / 11,866 / 10,111 / 10,970 / 10,755

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 48%, Threshold: 315
▸ Dodge Chance: 43% (1572)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 27% (1,242)
▸ Block Chance: 98%, Mitigation 43% (1,517)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 93%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 93%

Damage Types:

▸ Physical, Cold / Throwing

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Physical / Melee

Buffs:

▸ Ambition (20/20), Haste

Used skills:

• Umbral Blades (22)
• Aerial Assault (20)
• Smoke Bomb (20)
• Falconry (20)
• Net (20)

Used unique items:

• Mourningfrost
• Throne of Ambition

[surreal verge]

Just got put in ytd, yes./

[honest canyon]

Going by what is in the online tool it looks like a hybrid summon class where you get one bird which can be upgraded to benefit from your attack stats

[cedar locust]

Have you rebound any buttons?

[gusty idol]

did not touch it and last time i plaed was EA time

[toxic echo]

well its still EA. what chest can you not open?

[gusty idol]

i cant speak with npc either

iv restored keybindings but nothing changed

[cedar locust]

Oh, do you have a movement skill in slot 2 or bound to RMB?

[gusty idol]

movment is on LMB

on npc i have cursor with 3 dots icon but cant speak with npc

[cedar locust]

Can I see your whole hotbar?

[gusty idol]

on Forge clicking works, on npc,teleport, chest not

[cedar locust]

You have volatile reversal in slot 2, can you try putting another skill there ?

[gusty idol]

didn't help

[cedar locust]

Can you try verifying your steam files for me?

[gusty idol]

sure

[dawn briar]

Does Last Epoch have the option or will have the options to hide minions or others minions ?

[gusty idol]

done, no change

[dawn briar]

I dislike a lot having my screen flooded when I play with a minions build

[cedar locust]

Wait, is that Lunge bound to move-to-attack? Try changing that for me

[surreal verge]

No

[gusty idol]

@cedar locust this is problem with my character, my other one can access chest, just checked this

[cedar locust]

I know, we've had something similar before where the issue has been related to having certain skills bound to RMB to LMB via move-to-attack

[gusty idol]

with this i can access chest

so the move or attack is the problem here

with Lunge

[cedar locust]

That was it! Okay, good news - this should be fixed in 1.0! For now, you may have to unbind and rebind that skill

[acoustic thicket]

Say you play a melee character. Is the stat "melee crit strike chance" strictly better than "crit strike chance"? Or are they equally effective, with the only diff being that the 2nd one covers non-melee as well?

[toxic echo]

equal

[gusty idol]

thx for help i cant use it with Lunge, tested now

[surreal verge]

Also, melee critical strike chance is almost always BASE critical strike chance

[slow kernel]

Have they said how stashes will work on merge from cycle to legacy?

[toxic echo]

they do not know yet

[slow kernel]

As more and more merges build up

Ok

[toxic echo]

thats a after 1.0 bridge

[slow kernel]

I like to collect uniques in standard SSF in poe and am planning something similar here

[wicked plover]

you can just make a stash tab for every type of unique, for example body armour, boots, and so on.
there is no auto sort like poe but at the end you will have the same result

[dapper swift]

There is lastepochtools which has a checklist on site, so you know what you have and missing and how to get it

[worn lynx]

Are there Any abilities in this game with frog themes?

[viral kettle]

is there a way to multiple select items? rearranging all idols from one tab to another is a bit tedious one by one

[toxic echo]

no

[toxic echo]

fury leap is a leap...its kind of froggy?

[acoustic thicket]

Some affixes grant flat bonuses, while others grant % bonuses. In general, is the flat bonus best in early game, while the % bonus is best in late game?

[toxic echo]

flat is good all the time

[mint crown]

Nothing frog themed yet, but I figure itd have to go on primalist or acolyte at some point

[toxic echo]

% kinda depends on how much other % you have. flat is also a lot harder to get. so if you can get flat, its pretty much always the choice.

unless you are doing a dot build that cares nothing for flat

[acoustic thicket]

Interesting, thanks 👍

[worn lynx]

True... I will see if I can make a poison bog leap build

We need more frog appreciation

[worn lynx]

That would be amazing, maybe a wizard who turns enemies into frogs and kills them like that

Or they become his summons and a horde of frogs awash the battlefield with furious blood rage

[copper pumice]

what makes this item epic? my first one i found it has 4 stats so i dont understand ^^

[toxic echo]

exalted items (purple) just have a drop only t6/t7 affix

[exotic umbra]

Does 1.0 change the balance of all classes? Is it worth preparing a build for 1.0 now or is it better to wait for the patch?

[toxic echo]

and its actually prtty good cuz you got flat crit as exalted

[toxic echo]

there will be tons of balance changes at 1.0, no one knows what they are. anything you build now will need to get tweaked at minimum

highly doubt anything would be a total bust tho

[exotic umbra]

Developers said whether there will be a patch note before the release of 1.0?

[surreal verge]

https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1203954468337623111

[delicate orbit]

How do I unlock the fifth slot here?

[wide sentinel]

200 cor

[delicate orbit]

thanks

[desert pebble]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/1oRvpXzo
Im pretty tanky right now but struggling with dps rn, with some mono mods stuff taking quite a while to kill
what should i improve in this build, and how?
swipe werebear atm
thanks 🙂

[neon compass]

Druid, Level 81

Game Cycle / Version:

Release / 1.0.0 PTR

Class:

Primalist (25) / Beastmaster (13) / Druid (56)

General:

▸ Health: 2,206, Regen: 33/s
▸ Mana: 170, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 28%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 47 Str / 2 Dex / 2 Int / 17 Att / 12 Vit
▸ Resistances: 99% / 131% / 55% / 82% / 70% / 117% / 61%
▸ EHP: 4,551 / 4,551 / 3,806 / 5,693 / 4,334 / 4,551 / 4,006

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 51%, Threshold: 595
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (16)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 46% (2,392)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 91%

Damage Types:

▸ Physical, Lightning / Melee, Spell, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Werebear Form (22)
• Swipe (22)
• Maelstrom (20)
• Warcry (20)
• Fury Leap (20)

Used unique items:

• Siphon of Anguish

[wide sentinel]

you will always struggle with dps on that build

best upgrades for u is orobus belt and exalted swords

[desert pebble]

hmm I see

i thought druid is very good for pushing content though :S

when messy affixes gone from mono it became normal again but probably this build would struggle around 500 corruptions or so

[glad fractal]

Q) New player here at lvl 25. Is it just me , or the game feels too easy? I am playing a Rogue/Marksman...

[wicked plover]

the campaign is designed to be an easy experience to get into the game and learn the game/your build

it will get more difficult soon enough

[wide sentinel]

no one said its bad though?

u chose the tankies version with low dps it can still push easily

people did 1k+ easily on this

liz pushed 3k on his bear swipe

[marsh maple]

so

you trade speed

for just being able to face tank stuff

and ignore everything

thats the point of werebear

[wide sentinel]

i mean on that build literally all u do is rampage to objectiuve and kill it

[marsh maple]

yep

oh misha

did you see

I got a werebear up to 3.4k hp while still having 1k regen with shattered lance

[wide sentinel]

i saw ya

[marsh maple]

dude the amount of work I did last night to pull that off was enormous

I slammed 4 different call of the tundras to hit that

[wide sentinel]

at least u got plenty of those

[marsh maple]

I wonder why

that build is like one of the only niche cases for that thing

[desert pebble]

yeah it facetanks everything

but idk, this is like jugg equivelent for poe?

[wide sentinel]

just rush objectives

[marsh maple]

yep pretty much

[wide sentinel]

and dont waste your time

[marsh maple]

think of it like EQ jugg @desert pebble

[desert pebble]

my friend played that build i think lol

very low dps indeed

[desert pebble]

yeah thats what im doing, trying to get one h sword droprate blessing rn

[marsh maple]

its hard to rush objectives when you have to sit through 3 loading screens that last 2 minutes long so I can slam items @wide sentinel

[plain valve]

does this game have any kind of matchmaking to find randoms??

[marsh maple]

nah but we have #👥┃lfg

[plain valve]

shame i enjoy join randoms in games

[desert pebble]

Can I just endlessly venture into mono or there will be a oroboyss echo no matter what

[toxic echo]

orobyss at every end at some point

sometimes vessels of memory/chaos...but mostly orobyss.

[desert pebble]

oh yeah was dodging orobis for a while but hit the wall now

guess ill start other side now

tryying to get 3 gaze before fight

[wicked plover]

just fyi, you loose all gaze stacks if you fail orobyss

[desert pebble]

ye

[wicked plover]

i think i lost 12 stacks once, wasnt a good day

x)

[desert pebble]

my vk cyclone is really squishy

so i never been able to do gazed runs tbh

most optimal for pushing corruptions was 3 though right?

[wicked plover]

i have no clue, i'm not into optimization, i just play for the funsies

[toxic echo]

eh. you get diminishing returns on gazes iirc

whats best is highly opinionated on it

[wicked plover]

most fun = best

fight me

:^)

[desert pebble]

whats most fun 😛

[wicked plover]

that's for you to decide

[desert pebble]

I almost cleared half of the branches at top of the timeline

how did you get that much

[wicked plover]

on a seriosu note, what are you trying to do?

[desert pebble]

gazes at first place

[desert pebble]

pushing corruptions asap for better loot

[wicked plover]

so just very general better loot?

[desert pebble]

ye

just gaming, killing stuff

[wicked plover]

well i always reset my timeline if i dont feel the visible rewards are worth the effort branching out

and whatever corruption feels comfortable

without checking mods

helps me turn off my brain more

[winter dirge]

hi, does last epoch have a class that has real depth/complexity leading to interesting decision making during combat, build variety and really diverse combat situations?

[wicked plover]

runemaster i would say

very fun and rewarding to play around with

it is rather complex in comparison to other stuff but therefore offers alot of options and stuff you can try out

[toxic echo]

nothing here is as complex as poe...but Rm is prolly the most complexity potential

[winter dirge]

thanks, I'll take a look at runemaster, any other class I should take a look at?

[wicked plover]

upcoming warlock looks quite fun i guess?
if you dont look at any guides every class can be fun to theorycraft on

if runemaster isnt for you i would just pick whatever sounds best thematically

[winter dirge]

are those mastery classes locked in once chosen or could I switch around?

[buoyant sinew]

locked

have to make a new character to change mastery

[winter dirge]

k

[wicked plover]

but that's absolutely the only choice thats permanent (besides gamemode upon character creation), so you can respec your passives and skills anytime you want

so dont be shy to try stuff out

[silver rover]

Is there any way to speed up loading screens? Sometimes I like click my town portal and sit there for a full 5s before it even starts the loading screen ;-; is it all just server?

[toxic echo]

play offline until the 1.0 patch comes.

[buoyant sinew]

I'm not really familiar with how applying ailments to yourself works. if I poison myself with the Soul Feast node or damn myself with Marina's or so on, what exactly scales that damage? is it just everything that scales the same ailment on an enemy?

[wicked plover]

i would assume so, but ofc calculated on your defenses

[surreal verge]

Yourself, and shockingly area level

(THe latter which shouldn't happen)

[buoyant sinew]

wait what

[native sail]

AOD

[surreal verge]

It's... weird

[surreal verge]

Mark my words. It'll still be shit even if it was fixed

[buoyant sinew]

can you please explain what's going on?

[surreal verge]

Okay.

1. (AoD) Scales with your own stats. So AoD's self application poison WILL hurt you.
2. (AoD and everything else) Scales with Area Level's global pen, which is not intended.

[buoyant sinew]

oh god ok

so self ailments just get free 75 pen

[surreal verge]

It hurts much more than you think if you stack too much

[buoyant sinew]

well I feel like it must hurt less than I think

because I'm looking at numbers and being like, how could you justify ever wanting to ailment yourself

[surreal verge]

5 or less it isn't that much. After that...

[buoyant sinew]

even like 20 stacks is going to cripple you

[surreal verge]

Since it still runs on the default base damage.

Enough stacks WILL still screw your health economy

And DoTs make them ignore armour, dodge, block, GB, etc.

Resistance and endu only

[buoyant sinew]

yep

I just don't understand how so many people are calling this damage OP then

people out here acting like it's free 45% more dam

[surreal verge]

Marinas/fire lich stuff makes it easy to get like 20 stacks while trying to help you mitigate the damage

While AoD just laughs at it and actually calls it free more 45%

(Which they actually need cause AoD shite)

[buoyant sinew]

okay sure

but yeah it feels more like "a little bit of extra damage if you're using marina's"

[surreal verge]

It's not as free as people think, but getting like 5-10% out of it isn't too hard

[buoyant sinew]

(or bleeding heart or whatever)

okay thank you for all the info

[surreal verge]

Yeah getting small amounts is easy

Maxing it is another matter

Don't worry You'll most likely see me abusing this stupid node

[buoyant sinew]

have a blast lol

I was just looking at self poison for an actual poison ailment build and wait oh no, poison overload on self poisons

which is why I had to ask

[surreal verge]

...Oh yeah...

[buoyant sinew]

yeah have fun with that on your AoD build

😛

[surreal verge]

Ah the pain

I go through for this dumbassskill

[remote mirage]

is there some secret strategy that isnt stack-more-movement-speed against the large AoE from the boned dragon?

[toxic echo]

use a movement skill

[elder apex]

if i'm trying to gamba at lightless arbor, does it matter what tier key i do?

[remote mirage]

mine has too long cooldown

[toxic echo]

you can also see it coming. he has a very predictable attack pattern

[wicked plover]

higher tier= better stuff

[elder apex]

perfect. that's what i was asking. thanks

[toxic echo]

aoe, shake, claw, shake, breath, aoe repeat

[remote mirage]

i also run the channelling no cost lightning blast so im out of mana to cast

[toxic echo]

well, dont do that when its getting close to the aoe attack

all the bosses in the game have a very simple 4-6 attack pattern.

learn it and you solved 90% of the issues

[buoyant sinew]

if you're unsure what it's going to do next, you can just make sure you're not right in melee range of it when it finishes a skill

[remote mirage]

yeah, i feel like i picked the "worst" build to start with when it comes to mobility

[buoyant sinew]

if you're already halfway out of the area when it starts then it's very easy to leave

[toxic echo]

channled skills are not highly liked for many reasons, that being one of them

but i promise if you watched him close for a cycle or two, you'd know when you needed to dip

[stark charm]

I unlocked empowered monoliths and was wondering if I should run them if I die like half the time or just level up in normal monos? also, is it worth it to run dungeons to get gear or are monoliths the answer to everything?

[toxic echo]

as long as you arent insta dying when mobs look at you stay in empowered. dying doesnt really do anything in game(just losing the echo reward). so as long as you dont mind dying empowered is going to give you more xp and better mob kill loot.

monoliths are almost always better, save for some cases where exalted drop mods are on the dungeon.

[remote mirage]

ok, killed the white bastard 🫰

[royal gate]

When I make a legendary item does the exalted item need to have forging potential remaining?

[surreal verge]

No.

[wicked plover]

if you find a mono you feel comfortable clearing spend some mor etime and grind out the mobs ther , also keep an eye on mono mods and dont take the ones that harm your build the most

[royal gate]

thx

[royal gate]

thx

[toxic echo]

nice.

[remote mirage]

area lvl 90 is the highest required area for drops right?

[stark charm]

thanks! I'll stick to mono runs

[stark charm]

good point, I dont pay attention to modifiers at all

[toxic echo]

technically no. cuz you need lvl 100 empowered areas to get corruption high enough to unlock 2 of orobyss drops

[ember night]

How will seasons work in this game? Is new content locked behind new seasons, or can I play non-seasonal and still get new content?

[mellow zenith]

can any1 help me? i downloaded the game but am stuck at login screen, theres just a portal that keeps rotating. i cleared steam cashe, reinstalled already and cant log into the forums since i dont receive the confirmation email

[remote mirage]

but at least affixes ive got covered right?

[toxic echo]

yes

[toxic echo]

login screen where you are picking your account name? whats the error that it tells you, if any?

[toxic echo]

for this cycle, all content is going to both cycle and legacy

[mellow zenith]

no error, just the the portal without anything to type, the leave button and the discord/forum/website button

if i wanna leave i have to use task manager

[ember night]

what you mean for this cycle? will it change in the future or what?

[short stump]

is this bug going to be fixed @1.0?

offline.

[toxic echo]

the devs dont want cycle exclusive content, but they will never say never

[toxic echo]

https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1204438574322155610

[toxic echo]

so before the login screen or after that and before the character selection?

[ember night]

then there is no difference other than leaderboards or something?

[toxic echo]

leaderboards is about it, yeah. and a "fresh start" if wanted

[ember night]

I just really don't like the whole seasons bullshit and just want to play my character forever, like in grim dawn

[toxic echo]

then legacy is for you

[floral remnant]

Does the campaign have to be repeated in each cycle?

[toxic echo]

every cycle, every alt. this isnt D4 where the world levels up with you, which makes that possible. its a static world...so there has to be something there to get your levels

[ember night]

that's cool, thanks

[soft osprey]

Seasons are just a normal part of Diabloesque, hack and slash now

as long as it's not like D4

where it completely gimps your character outside of seasons

cause the new mechanic it introduces is gone

I don't care.

Don't give me time-limited material, but you can introduce new mechanics to me each seasons that add on slowly.

[oblique canyon]

is there a gerneral rule of thumb how much increase in corruption increases difficulty? just added +15 and noticed nothing

[toxic echo]

each 2 corruption is 1% hp and dmg. so its really build/gear dependant on how much you can handle

[oblique canyon]

oh ok 😮

and better/rarer loot for each corrpution?

[toxic echo]

yea

[oblique canyon]

i mean % 😄

[turbid atlas]

I'm trying to farm Herald of the Scurry from the Black Star Monolith. However do you get higher probability of finding Exclusive echo reward nodes on Empower or is it just the same between norm/empowereD?

[wicked plover]

normal monos dont have the increased legendary node thing

[buoyant sinew]

much much higher on empowered

and also better other drops while you're farming

don't farm on normal is basically a hard rule

no matter what you're farming

[turbid atlas]

Only reason is more of speed clear to find the node. You're saying the probability of finding these nodes are higher?

[buoyant sinew]

yes

hopefully your build can still speed clear at 100 corruption

[turbid atlas]

Thanks, Ill give more time into Empowered. It's somewaht fine, build swapped so still WIP but shouldnt be too hard to up the speed soon.

Cheers for the help peeps

[cedar locust]

Kill steam with task manager and reload it

[remote scaffold]

Is there a way to convert elemental damage to physical damage?

[toxic echo]

there are some uniques and nodes in trees that convert base damage. but if you have like +30 melee fire...thats gonna stay fire

[remote scaffold]

I was wondering if it is possible to convert the new Explosive Trap damage to physical

[toxic echo]

unless there is a node in the tree (and i dont think there is) no

unless there is some unique that they havent showed us yet that does it

[mellow zenith]

sorry had to go bring the kids to bed, this is where it gets stuck

[mellow zenith]

didnt work ;/

[remote scaffold]

Okay thanks. Would any conversion on found a unique (usually ) pertain to a specific skill?

[toxic echo]

yes, they would be for specific skills

[wicked plover]

have you tried a different login server
even if it shows higher ping

[remote scaffold]

Cool, at least I know what to look out for. Thanks

[mellow zenith]

cant find option for that in steam, this is where i get stuck the moment after starting the game, i didnt do or choose anything until then

[wicked plover]

is your connection otherwise fine?

[mellow zenith]

ye, 0 issues on anything

[toxic echo]

yeah it looks like you are getting stuck at the steam auth. normally forcing steam to shut down fixes that. but if you already tried that, idk. also doesnt seem like steam is having a fit today

[wicked plover]

maybe check again to shutdown all steam application in task manager and restart your pc

[mellow zenith]

hmm ;/ maybe i reinstall steam, didnt use it for years

[wicked plover]

that should guarantee a clean start

[mellow zenith]

thx so far, will try it and be back

[wicked plover]

maybe you can check if the steam client has updates ready

[mellow zenith]

it autoupdated on start

i dont get verification email to log into last epoch forums as well even after resending multiple times, maybe it really is some steam connection issue

[wicked plover]

maybe try a clean restart first, that's your best bet

[hardy spoke]

anybody knows if there will be a controller update? the QoL to nunlock autocaster not available on the controller is a pain

[native sail]

Numlock isn't an intentional thing

So...

[wide sentinel]

[native sail]

https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1204439008877477928

[hardy spoke]

that is nice

[faint cape]

the use of an external program that does nothing other than holding down hotkeys for you is allowed, btw

[buoyant roost]

Hey all, if you dual wield 2 apogee of frozen light (1h sword) do you get either of the more multipliers twice?

[faint cape]

One of the more multis is additive when dual wielding, the other more multi is just that non-stacking buff, so it doesn't stack

[buoyant roost]

Perfect. Thanks 🙂

[shy elm]

Hello, bug or feature ?
mob in front of me cant be hit unless i turn around so game can detect there is something (or my arms are too long)

[wicked plover]

you got simply outplayed by that 1 mob (known bug with projectiles ^^)

[mellow zenith]

im back, quick update, steam/game reinstall didnt work, i then rebooted again and deactivated firewall, now i can play it fine. dunno which of theese fixed it in the end, thx for all your responses

[wicked plover]

i guess was a weird firewall verification thing? glad it works for you now 🙂 have fun

[acoustic fox]

anyone else get stuck in the secret treasure room of Imperial Welryn?

[cedar locust]

Known one way door, you'll have to TP out

[acoustic fox]

yea tried it twice to make sure

the mob name cracked me up though, Bil Bell Bother Barthalomew

[wicked plover]

his parents must love him

[outer jay]

is there like a general filter i can use for bow rogue

like I tried making my own but the rules are all over the place

cinder strike has been pretty fun so i tried to make one for that but it didnt go well lmao

I tried maybe 1 or 2 peoples filters and it was very janky and made me question why some things were checked in there

[wicked plover]

is there smth specific you were struggling with

the easiest way to approach filters is to start low and expand the fartehr you go into your build

[outer jay]

i tried that but it only got worse

[wicked plover]

so for example you can start with smth very simple like
show all rares with x affixes you wanna use
recolor uniques
recolor exalts
hide normal/magic/rare

those 4 rules will get rid of 90% of clutter already

and the recolor is optional btw, i just liek to emphasize nameplates

[outer jay]

i tried putting resist stuff and it just threw like 50 items at me that were just bad

I set it to with at least 2 affixes on the item

[wicked plover]

resist is a very generic affix that you get like on every second item
i would filter for more specific rare stuff, and craft those generic affixes afterwards on the item

that narrows it down by alot

[outer jay]

so should i remove the resists? and keep stuff like elemental resist or something or should i remove that too

[wicked plover]

i would remove resists alltogether personally
look at it this way : open your materials ( right side under idols "view materials")

you will see how many affix shards you have of each type

that will give you an idea whats rare and what is not

[molten swift]

is there anyway to get avarice after the chapter 2 quest thing? i messed up and got the necklace instead

[wicked plover]

i am sure you have hundreds of resistance shards already

[barren kayak]

Why is it that when i take of a +1 skill item it seems to remove a random node and not the most recent i put in?

[wicked plover]

there is another version in a dungeon but that's hard to get

you get that quest with every char though, so you can grab those next time

[buoyant sinew]

to stop gear swapping for bosses being good

[molten swift]

T_T so is it better to just restart since im only like level 14

[wicked plover]

yea pretty much

[buoyant sinew]

it's not technically random, there are rules and it's the same one each time

[molten swift]

oki ty

[wicked plover]

i still get confused and have to look for where my points got removed from, it's my biggest gripe with the game even after 1k hours
it's not userfriendly at all (i know it's a bandaid for bug abuse but still)

[barren kayak]

its just so damn counter intuitive for me, and annoying when trying to roll weaver relics

[wicked plover]

i feel you, what i do specifically with weavers items is, just dont use the skill points until i get one i want to use

[buoyant sinew]

if they made it so swapping one piece of gear with +level for another piece of gear with +level didn't mess with it that would be so good lol

but Mike said that was hard/impossible

[barren kayak]

Yeah thats propably a solution aswell

[wind oak]

for the blessing "increased helmet shards drop rate" does that include all affixes that can appear on a helmet? including for example class specific shards?
and skill shards?

[wicked plover]

yea
specifically +level skill shards are still rare shards to drop, so dont expect to be showered with them, it's just a little boost

if you are looking for specific affix shards it's best to make a lootfilter for those and get them out of items by using rune of shattering

or if you get a high tier roll rune of removal

[wind oak]

yeah i get that they're rare, just wanted to make sure my understanding was correct

[trail spoke]

Hi where can I read how enemy and player modifiers work in empowered maps? Seems like each node adds some as i do them but i dont know how many node modifiers stack and when or under what conditions they fall off?

[wicked plover]

it shows on the map layout in the corner, all modifiers you have

[hazy plaza]

Hey folks!
Got a question to ya!
Will there be a wipe on full release? Or are we keeping our stuff?

[wicked plover]

and how long they last

[wicked plover]

https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1187326924754788362

[hazy plaza]

Thank you!

[trail spoke]

no wipe

[dry karma]

Do I understand mono's? If you want to move from mono to mono and it's hard, you want to get as much stability out of every echo as possible, but if it's easy and you don't care about getting more mods, it's better to just complete the echo and go to the next? I'm a newb if it wasn't obvious, just trying to figure things out before launch

[wicked plover]

the extra stability is just for some extra progression while doing the mono objective, it's not smth you need to focus on

if you struggle generally with monoliths keep an eye on the modifiers they will add to your run and avoid the difficult ones

[dry karma]

Alright. I figured getting more stability was worth it, cause it allows you to complete the mono by doing fewer echos and thereby get fewer mods right?

[wicked plover]

well that depends if you want to farm the boss for either their drops or blessings

if you want to min max your corruption you would generally avoid the more difficult modifiers

[flint yew]

monos are changing in 1.0, mods wont be nearly as strong and it'll be scaling on corruption mainly instead

[wicked plover]

but other than that just blast as many monos as you can for the rewards

[dry karma]

I played a long time ago as well, and vagely remember a way to clear mods before the boss too, but I dont remember how.

[wicked plover]

you can run the story boss things to remove mods
if you want to bother with that

[dry karma]

Oh right, every quest thing removes all the mods?

[wicked plover]

1 stack

[native sail]

No

That

[dry karma]

1 stack? 1 mod?

[native sail]

1 stack of the mods

[wicked plover]

mods last for x amount of monos

[dry karma]

Alright, I need to pay more attention tomorrow when I play then 😛

[native sail]

It's really only used if you REALLY need to get rid of something bad

[dry karma]

Does campaign scale with character level? If I don't want to do Lagon, I can go mono's and then go back and instakill Lagon later on?

[wicked plover]

campaign areas are fixed lvl

[dry karma]

I dont even know if you get anything by killing Lagon

[native sail]

You don't.

[dry karma]

ok

[wicked plover]

you can progress the story until the end, the very last boss gives +1 all attributes

[native sail]

^

[dry karma]

Oh right, ok. So its worth doing at some point

[wicked plover]

if you really care ^^ sure

[flint yew]

the strat is to beat mono lagon then go back and flex on story lagon

[dry karma]

+1 stats isnt good in this game?

[wicked plover]

it's something

it's not gonna hurt having ^^

[native sail]

It doesn't hurt. 99.9% of the time it's not gonna make or break anything.

[dry karma]

noted

[wicked plover]

your character wont jump to the next dimension of power cause of +1stat

[dry karma]

😄

[acoustic thicket]

What does MTX mean? As in "MTX Panel"

[dry karma]

I was thinking of playing HC cycle at launch since if I die, I can continue on SC cycle, that's why I'm interested in skipping Lagon, just in case

microtransactions

[wicked plover]

micro transaction

[native sail]

Microtransactions. Cosmetics in this game.

[dry karma]

But if/when I die on cycle HC, what happens with the shards? Anyone know? Do they follow the character to SC cycle, or do they stay in HC cycle

[wicked plover]

good question, i would assume you loose the shards, cause they remain in your shared inventory
and game modes are strictly separated when it comes to storage

[native sail]

They stay HC iirc

[dry karma]

Ok, so unless there's a migrate feature, the only way to move items would be to rip some characters, but the shards remain since they aren't actual items if in storage

[wicked plover]

pretty much

[dry karma]

Sounds like a migrate function would make sense

[faint cape]

If there was a migrate function, you'd still lose your crafting mats and gold, that's how the SSF mode migrations work.
Would be nice if migrations did move stashes, but I don't think they've made that tech yet. They might have to make it for cycle ends, so maybe we could possibly get that feature next cycle if we're lucky lol

[dry karma]

Oh, ok. Didn't know there was migrate in the game already, interesting. Yeah hopefully they will flesh that out.

I'll probably start SC then, don't want to die and end up with no mats and having to rip a huge amount of chars to move items.

[faint cape]

Yeah, I'd only play HC if you want to commit

[wicked plover]

hc on 1.0 launch would be pretty brave anyways tbh ^^

[dry karma]

because of the servers? 😛

[wicked plover]

most likely

i'd wish everything would go down smoothly

but it probably wont

[dry karma]

Yeah, but I figured if I would rip to SC cycle anyway, wouldn't lose much to try, just to see how far i'd get

There's also the factions too, I don't know if they would follow the character either

[icy cradle]

what are the last classes to be released with ver 1.0?

[dry karma]

Falconer and Warlock?

[faint cape]

Thry are attached to stash, so no they probably wouldn't follow

[dry karma]

I see

[desert pebble]

so is shade of orobbys vulnerable to dmg?

it takes quite long time to kill timeline boss while orobys takes much high damage from me

[wicked plover]

depends on the mono modifiers you have active

[desert pebble]

same ones, killed back to back

orobyys taking 9-10k per swipe crit while timeline boss taking 3-5k

[toxic echo]

orobyss is not vulnerable to anything, that kind of thing doesnt really exist in le outside of a few gem adds in majasa fight

[near path]

Does sound like a mod being there for the boss and not for Oro

Glancing Blows maybe

Or less damage on high health

[toxic echo]

endurance, GB, maybe DR(depending on when you looked)

[desert pebble]

I see

thanks

[molten swift]

is there a solid mage build that builds into fire stuff later? i was gonna go runemaster but i just got this at lvl3 and was curious if theres any viable play around it

not even sure if its good

[wicked plover]

it's a good lvling item

[toxic echo]

with no lp, only good for leveling. but if you find one with lp, can be really good late

[molten swift]

could i still use it for building into runemaster later? the leveling guide says to focus glacier instead of the fireball skillw hile leveling

[toxic echo]

plenty of fire mage stuff...fireball, anything runemaster, hydra would be good i think

[molten swift]

what is lp

[molten swift]

hydrehedron runemaster good with this? that was my plan

[toxic echo]

legendary potential..there are some game guide stuff about it thats written pretty well

[wicked plover]

you can use whatever floats your boat if it gets you ahead ^^

[molten swift]

ty!

[wicked plover]

if any wording is unclear press G ingame, it will open up the ingame guide, most stuff is explained there with examples
also ctrl+alt and hover over items, it will give detailed description of everything you see

[molten swift]

i made a second mage so i could go back and get avarice lmao so im kinda glad i did now that i got this

so while leveling do i turn on loot filter asap or wait until a certain point

[wicked plover]

as soon as you feel like you see more stuff than you can use ^^

[molten swift]

when i tried starting before i turned it on asap at like level 2 but wasnt seeing any drops so idk if it matters early or not

hmm

[wicked plover]

if you just freshly started wait a bit until you feel like you have some decent stuff on your char
at that point you dont need to check every item that drops
certainly not normal and magic rarity
that's the first thing i would do
hide normal/magic

be sure to pick up affix shards, those will help you out alot to modify your gear to your liking

[jaunty yarrow]

Is that any problem if i use YoloMouse (steam app that changes the mouse pointer size/style/color) on Last Epoch?
I’m colorblind and i lose the pointer all the time

[wicked plover]

no problem at all

[sick tapir]

do minions only inherit skill trees from granted skills if specified?

[native sail]

I want to say yes because the only ones I can think of are in Acolyte stuff and none of the inherit the trees of the skills.

[sick tapir]

yeah I just wondered because I saw that summon bear for beastmaster has a node that grants the bear swipe

but it specifically says that it uses your skill tree version

and skeleton mages' sacrifice does not have that line and does not seem to inherit the sacrifice skills I put in

[native sail]

Then yea that's probably the rule. There's pretty limited sources of that in general

[sick tapir]

-- and now I'm wondering how it works for non minion skills as well, do they need the specific line about inheriting trees to do so?

[wicked plover]

no

[native sail]

^

[sick tapir]

so they inherit the trees as long as its not a minion skill?

[native sail]

Yeah

[sick tapir]

gotcha

[wicked plover]

i love triggering skills with other skills and they always used the specific skilltree so far

[native sail]

Now that you've mentioned this it seems weird that it's inverted

[sick tapir]

I really think they should put the added tooltip of saying it uses your skill tree for the skill

[wicked plover]

https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1123697853882187847

[sick tapir]

will do

[solid narwhal]

will there be achievements on full release?

[native sail]

Nope, but further down the line yes

[faint cape]

Your minions don't benefit from any of your stuff unless specifically stated, specialization trees included. That said, they have mostly intentionally changed the names of the minion-used copies of player skills to help with that. Sacrifice is the last one that got missed, I think.

[empty wedge]

I have a very newb question. When a skill says it “scales with cast speed” does this mean if I give my sorc more cast speed my damage from that skill goes up?

[toxic echo]

It means you cast it more often

Therefor, doing more damage

[native sail]

It means the speed of your casting it will go up, so... in a way yes

[empty wedge]

As long as I have the mana.

[toxic echo]

Yes

[empty wedge]

So lean into cast speed, mana and then some of the other tags on the skill.

[toxic echo]

Skill scaling 101

[scarlet cape]

Is there a cap on crit avoidance? Or you only need 100%?

[native sail]

You only need 100%

[scarlet cape]

Ty

[native sail]

(Which is functionally a cap because of that)

[dense lynx]

I haven’t had a chance to look at the two new masteries how do they look?

[scarlet cape]

For defensive stats like ward/resist, where do most people get it from? Blessing? Idols? Certain parts of gear? Or does it just depend on the build?

[toxic echo]

Good to great

[native sail]

General rule, a mix of item implicits, blessings, idols, and sometimes an affix or two on less important bits (rings, neck, relic)

[toxic echo]

Build and class play a big part. Blessings and gear make the bulk of it. Idols fill in gaps

[native sail]

Ward is kind of a different thing entirely

You need to generate ward from something, it barely exists on gear as a raw stat

[dense lynx]

I am interested in the warlock mastery how did that look to you?

[native sail]

Warlock looks strong, not really my style though

[dense lynx]

Fair enough thanks for the input. Falconer seems cool but I might just stick with necro once again

[high ether]

Is anybody else getting high 100's ping to the Australian server while within Australia? I'm getting 170ms~, I usually get between 18-30ms to game servers in other games. Is this normal, or just extra lag at the moment for some reason?

[rotund falcon]

anyone show me a good build for rouge for a noob thats never played this game

[wide sentinel]

maxroll shadow daggers or on youtube

anythign with shadow daggers

[deep escarp]

Hey there! I need help for a friend; He is unable to run the game in multiplayer but can run in single player. We think it could be because he's using a lesser-known ISP named Tru Vista, which is primarily based in North Georgia (states). Where can he find his logs to produce so that I can create a proper thread somewhere for this?

I should add that he has reinstalled the game multiple times.

[wicked plover]

did he try a different login server

that works for most cases

otherwise checkout this https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1205212339654234153

there are some solutions

[deep escarp]

Nvm i saw where they said they're working on it

[obsidian dome]

Do I have to own the game on steam to login to the webpage

[wicked plover]

i dont know, but you can try?

i think the website asks you for a steam login

[sharp current]

Been so long since I did that I have no idea either.

[obsidian dome]

I have tried, it wont log me in, it just takes me back to login with steam page

[wicked plover]

you can access the site and whole forum without logging in though

[dusky cosmos]

does this change to cold aura when I skilled it in the skill tree?

[sinful laurel]

Yes

Wait.

Yes

Assuming you mean in flame ward

It says globally

[naive matrix]

I'm trying to get more info on the cosmetics who bought the game a way back in early access. I got a backpack, 2 pets and 350 currency (which I don't remember was part of the deal). I read somehwere, thisk it was on Steam, that EA players (who got it before MP was introduced would also get a Portal cosmetic, which I can't find in my account. Is it true we should have a Portal? Thanks.

[wicked plover]

i dont recall them giving out a portal for ea

all we got is the backpack and i think 2 pets or smth

[naive matrix]

yeah that's what I got, love the backpack btw

[toxic echo]

Back pre .9. Pet pre 1.0. Points were also pre .9 for shop testing iirc

[naive matrix]

I always confuse the pets with enemies and minions so I disbaled them LOL

[sharp current]

They recently gave out a pet to anyone who already owns the game before 1.0

[naive matrix]

kk, so sounds like no Portal then, thanks everyone for the quick reply

[mild axle]

What y’all think would be best screen clear ranged ignite build? I think it would be fun to do a DOT build on 1.0. Something w sorc or bowmaster ? Only played druid ( werebear cold ) and sorc (lightning)

[naive matrix]

I played a shield throw pala like 2 years ago and it was pretty fun, not sure if you're after, looks like the shield has a cooldown now, it used to trigger "pillars of fire" all the time

going for lighning werebear on release because I like the archetype

[ripe tiger]

do the repeats from elemental nova also give u runes for runemaster

[nova sparrow]

right now if I die in hardcore, i won't actually lose anything except the hardcore status right?

[wicked plover]

pretty much

you dont share storage with hc and sc characters though

[nova sparrow]

ah I see, tyty

[royal gate]

I'm trying to target farm Exsanguinous. I've done 98 empowered echoes in Blood, Frost, and Death and still no Exsanguinous. Which begs the question if I were in the merchant's guild right now could I afford to buy one assuming I met all of the other qualifications. How much would an Exsanguinous with no LP go for in your opinion? What about with 1 LP?

I'm still undecided about MG or CoF. I don't think I'll make enough money to really afford the things I want because I'm a mostly casual player - but I've never been in a game with a player based economy before.

Care to share your thoughts...?

[wicked plover]

there is no way to tell right now how the economy will balance itself out

so many factors to it

[near path]

People can give you their thoughts but what's the validity of any of them in a scenario where we neither know the new drop rates, nor the new corruption and its impact, nor the new viability / demand of Exsang

[wicked plover]

with that amount of farming i would assume that you would have enough favour to buy at least 1 item, if you met the requirements
if you have enough gold to afford the price ( which you cant predict at this moment) is a different matter

[royal gate]

Meant as more of a conversation starter than a request for a quote. 😇

[wicked plover]

in it's current state and how many ward builds use it i would say a few million with lp

wild guess
could be 100k after 1.0 or 20 million, but there you go ^^

there is not much to discuss, it's just fantasy, we have nothing to compare with

[mild axle]

Yea prob most interesting thing for me is to see how this all works out.

[wicked plover]

certainly keeping an eye on it, even as cof player

never watched an economy develop where you cant flip

[mild axle]

Oh yea I always kinda forget that part.

[steep folio]

Hi, I'm working my way through monoliths and finished all of the regular ones, I went to the center and the beams are not lit up and I can't click on anything. I also do not have any quests open. Any idea where I go to start empowered monoliths?

[wicked plover]

have you finished all 3 lvl 90 ones

[steep folio]

Yes

[faint cape]

Use the waypoints to touch each of the level 90 mono maps, then walk back to that center island

[steep folio]

kk will try that, thank you

[near path]

Also relogging helps

[steep folio]

touching the maps did it. Thank you again!

[radiant fossil]

should I hoard runes of ascendance or just use them? I got 1 but I'm only level 9

[wide surge]

Hey guys,
I'm totally new to the ARPG genre and I found it difficult to play this type of game with a friend (tried d4 and poe)
Is Last Epoch more favorable to play in party or will I have the same experience ?
(Not sure if it's tied to the ARPG genre or not, that's why I ask)
Cheers

[lethal canyon]

Do we know if multiple nets stack for the damage over time portion.

[buoyant sinew]

it's hard to know without knowing what you struggled with. especially because PoE is generally agreed to be co-op unfriendly but D4 isn't at all

[wide surge]

In my case, it's about the lack of "need" rather than the lack of possibility.
I never found anything "easier" to do as 2 than alone.
I think this is what bugs me the most

[buoyant sinew]

hmmm so
a) the current aRPGs are all designed to be fully solo capable with no need to party ever
b) that said, I think it's true of all of them that it's technically optimal to play in a party if you min max party composition and division of labour
c) point b isn't relevant for casual play, so...it might be a genre thing for you?

LE is very forgiving on co-op and it's definitely easier to kill stuff, but it's not a big deal? it's mostly just like solo play except you have someone else next to you

[silver lava]

Will there be a clan/community/guild system?

Not referring to merchants or the other one

[surreal verge]

No, as they don't want to make one without a purpose.

[buoyant sinew]

not yet, maybe later but the devs would have to have a reason to make it first and don't think there is one yet

[surreal verge]

(No, chat and guild stash is not a purpose)

[surreal verge]

Well LE only scales enemy health in multiplayer. If both of you do damage, it'll be faster than solo.

[wide surge]

thanks for the answer 🙂

[silver lava]

Figured it would just make it easier to nail down a smaller group of people to be playing with regularly without just hoping for the best in global chat 😂

And would be nice to have set discords with a group when it comes to people you don't play with super often

[peak bolt]

can anyone tell me why this isn't working?

[buoyant roost]

Hey all, question. I know that Dark Quiver requires a bow. Can the Shadow dropping node work if you pick up a black arrow when you are not wielding a bow?

[surreal verge]

Yes

[buoyant roost]

Thanks

[molten thicket]

if i use Areial Assult and have the node that it also casts umbral blade will those scale from my dmg or my falcons? and also if they apply shadow daggers will the shadow dagger dmg scale from me or the falcon (and if its the falcons what happends if i apply 2 stacks and then the falcon 2 stacks)? 🙂

[flint yew]

shadow daggers is unaffected by specific tree scaling, its only affected by its tags

[sinful laurel]

But that doesn't change frozens question

[molten thicket]

^

[sinful laurel]

And to answer it, we don't know if they will inherit your stats or your falcons

[flint yew]

i literally answered the question

[sinful laurel]

SD is always a super weird case

[flint yew]

its not

[sinful laurel]

You literally didnt

[desert tree]

They are scaling from you

[molten thicket]

so if i have 100 added physical damage and my falcon has 40 will the shadow dagger my falcon apply work with the 100 or the 40?

[sinful laurel]

Well the weird part is the falcon is applying YOUR umbral blades that then applies the ailment shadow dagger that then stacks and applies the damage from shadow dagger proc

Messao. That doesn't help

[flint yew]

your minion is not applying anything

[sinful laurel]

The minion is applying, dude.

It's a falcon skill applying

[flint yew]

applying scaling quit taking me out of context

[sinful laurel]

That's not what he is asking!!!!

[flint yew]

he asked what scaled the damage on shadow daggers

[sinful laurel]

"will the shadow dagger damage scale from me or from the falcon"

[flint yew]

to which i replied its affected only by its tags

[molten thicket]

i know what scales it i just dont know if it take my stats or the falcons stats

[sinful laurel]

Not "how does it scale" or " what are it's tags"

[desert tree]

Your stats

[flint yew]

which are how the skill scales

notice how it doesnt say minion

[sinful laurel]

Vlad is most likely right

[molten thicket]

the blades aswell or just shadow dagger?

[desert tree]

Both

[molten thicket]

ok thanks

[sinful laurel]

Jfc

[molten thicket]

ignite doesnt say minion but if a minion applys ignite it works with increased minion damage and not increased fire damage

[sinful laurel]

Frozen just let it go

Not worth it

[molten thicket]

haha

[flint yew]

ailments inherit the tags from what applies it so yes obviously

and dont say shadow daggers is an ailment thats not the same thing

[sinful laurel]

Lol it's literally an ailment and you literally just argued Against yourself.

[molten thicket]

actually its not

[sinful laurel]

Double whammy

[molten thicket]

the ailment procs a subskill

but minion subskills usually work from minion damage

but w/e its intresting that the falcon can use skills that scale from my stats

i guess its in the wording "that your faclon throws for you"

[surreal verge]

Shadow daggers is an ailment that procs a specific subskill

Soooo

[crystal badger]

hello is there any possible way to get items on the ground using a hotkey like space or something?

[sinful laurel]

Nope

[crystal badger]

now im playing the blade dancer build where i need to keep moving to survive, and picking items kills me often times

welp too bad

[sinful laurel]

Don't pick items with living enemies Around

[rough crystal]

What are these Icons and what do they do?

[sinful laurel]

Walk, walk to break destructible, walk to attack

[rough crystal]

Ohhh eh why does it allows you to choose 2? how can I use the lets say walk to break? as shown in the image?

Oh. I press shift.

[proven wedge]

Anyone wanna run a t3 and t4 temporal sanctum? I'm running a support build and bosses suck

[wanton summit]

Does anyone know if Last Epoch can be played on steam deck at launch

[surreal verge]

#👥┃lfg

[surreal verge]

You can technically do it now, but no full support

[nova sparrow]

ok so, the freeze due to internet issue in AsiaSE server, is it from my side or server side?

[leaden tundra]

how does ping work with playing with someone internationally?

[lethal rover]

I feel dumb, you can get WW items with runes of ascendance right?

[near path]

Yes

[gaunt vale]

Idk if I'm misreading but
Is Phys Pen for Bleed stat only for Sentinel gear?

Was checking on LETo

[gaunt vale]

It depends on their server. You will join whatever (or they will join yours) server their instance is in. It's likely you will get high ping and lag

Can also ask what server region they selected and check your ping either in settings or upon chara select

Hi again kzb

[surreal verge]

I think so, what does letools say (im on mobile)

[gaunt vale]

Ye it says it's on Sent gear. Was just making sure

TY

[pine dove]

you're able to move the abilities around in shapeshift form now right? haven't played in a minute

[icy drift]

yes, just click on them while shapeshifted and you can reorder them like normal

[leaden tundra]

thank you

[gaunt vale]

🫡

[ripe tiger]

Teleport has nodes that make it cast elemental nova

do these casts all give runes for runic invocation?

can you get like 3 runes per teleport almost instantly that way?

[surreal verge]

Procced skills never give runes

[ripe tiger]

ah

[urban otter]

toucan in shambles without vanity

[ripe tiger]

oh yes is the new explosive trap on falconer basically just enabling

exploding totem build

[stone imp]

Wait why do I want to do it though

[deft cedar]

would leech trigger this?

[surreal verge]

No, it must be actual healing.
Healing from potions also dont count

[lavish pawn]

So I mistakenly opened the Stolen lane as my next mono option. Do I just bite the bullet and go down the longer side or Go and try and unlock the black sun?

[surreal verge]

You can do either just rerun the mono

[desert pebble]

trying to get higher roll of one hand drop, but after getting 5 no luck, should i drop my blessing or i can keep getting same one but with higher roll

I remember we can get it, but maybe im unlucky this time lmao

[desert tree]

Unlucky

You can drop it even if you are already using it

[desert pebble]

ah okay I see

Is corruption increases timeline stability we get from echoes too btw?

[desert tree]

Yep

And at 200 you get the 5th slot too

[desert pebble]

ohh okay

thanks a lot mate

[vapid wedge]

Hi, am trying to buy items from the gamble shop by pressing SHIFT + RIGHTCLICK. It's not working - am I doing it wrongly?

[solemn bramble]

guys am i the only one with this strange border on the texts? it also applies to item names and so on

[buoyant sinew]

no a lot of people have it

it's being fixed in 1.0

[solemn bramble]

oh ok, fine!

[buoyant sinew]

new cycle yes, but no cycle-exclusive mechanic

the new mechanic is the item factions, which will be available in legacy too

yes

[onyx tide]

So the game resets at launch?

[desert pebble]

nope

[buoyant sinew]

existing characters and items will be in legacy but still playable

then there will be a new cycle if you want a reset

[onyx tide]

yea if theres a new season, or reset im starting fresh there. Just wondering cause im gonna roll warlock 😄

[lavish pier]

Does the monolith give more stability the more corruption you have?

[polar knoll]

if I plan on playing with friends, should we wait until the 1.0 drops or is it worth starting now

[wicked plover]

the game will be more stable with 1.0 for multiplayer, but if you dont mind a bit of yank here and there you can start now and continue your characters after 1.0 with all the new stuff

[polar knoll]

ty

[frail snow]

I'm sure it's been asked before multiple times but, will I be able to upgrade to Ultimate Edition after the launch?

[wicked plover]

yes

[prime epoch]

Is it possible to play an earth mage or some class with using earth skills?

[wicked plover]

thematically primalist would be the closest, but there is no earth element specifically

[frail snow]

Thanks a ton!

[tepid mist]

Is there an online source for the game guide that is in game? I'm at work so I can't access it in game. I'm trying to read up on how CC mechanics work for this game.

[wicked plover]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/guide/

[tepid mist]

Has EHG hinted towards any new classes in the future by chance? I know it's early, just curious if it's on thier radar or not

[wicked plover]

it is on their radar, but giving current classes more sub classes is way moreachievable than a straight up new class

[surreal verge]

They would do new masteries first, but yes in the far future

[wicked plover]

yes

[tepid mist]

Excellent....what a great game. Hands down the best arpg I've played

What do you mean by global?

[wicked plover]

in other arpgs there are local and global modifiers, so local would only affect the item it is on

[novel loom]

QUESTION:Will we loose all of our character and loot when LE goes to V1.0 release?

[wicked plover]

https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1187326924754788362

[remote mirage]

how do you unlock the black sun which i assume is the last monolith timeline? clear the alternatives?

[wicked plover]

you get a choice which way you wanna go when you clear "fall of the outcasts"

if you choose the higher lvl option it will lead you to black sun

it is generally recommended to get to the lvl 90 timelines as fast as possible so you can unlock empowered monoliths (the lvl 100 versions of each timeline)
once you have done that you can jump from timeline to timeline without restrictions

[remote mirage]

yeah, i cleared the three lv90 timelines

[wicked plover]

you should have access then

did you talk with the console thing which is connecting all 3 lvl 90 monos to unlock empowered?

[remote mirage]

no, now went there, got cutscene

ty

i assume the text is just bugged for this part and the icon is the relevant thing

[surreal verge]

Correct. Trust the icon

[stable cape]

hi, brand new to the game and to the comunity, so ill ask here:

im wondering if there is a way to see all of the curent damage tipes and values that im doing with my attacks

[wicked plover]

there is no detailed skill specific stat sheet currently

[stable cape]

like i mainly use physical mele, but there are some elemental mele damage atributes scatered around the items

and im having a bit of a trouble memorising all of the different tipes and values

for example this is by far the most DPS weapon i have found thus far

and i can tell if the lighting increas is doing much or not

or is my dps going up becaouse of the crit multiplier

[wicked plover]

independent of which damage type you use
you have alot of flat damage on that spear and ALOT of crit multiplier in your implicit

that alone will boost your damage significantly

[stable cape]

thats what i tought

but i dont know if the lighting part is doing anything or not

[wicked plover]

the % lightning would only apply to the flat lighntning dmage you have

[stable cape]

for clarens im beastmaster and im using swipe as main damage

[wicked plover]

have you turned swipe into lightning dmage? i think there is a node for that

if not then no, % light does nothing for you

[stable cape]

would i then lose all of the physical buffs

[wicked plover]

yes

[worldly bane]

Where can I see what the most popular/meta builds are for the current version of the game?

[wicked plover]

try your luck on maxroll.gg or check the leaderboards ingame by pressing L

[stable cape]

i would be losing a lot of dps in that case, so i guess the lighting part is just not doing anything atm

thx for the clearification

[dusky kite]

Ironically earth-themed skills like Earthquake or Upheaval are physical melee attacks and not even spells. But they surely do look the part. And you can probably play that kind of build, it has some built in synergy.

[dapper swift]

Going over 100% crit rate, is useful against crit avoid?

[surreal verge]

Nope. crit avoid is always checked last

[dapper swift]

Thanks, rip

[stable cape]

is there a bug with crit multiplier in the character sheet_

?

[wicked plover]

what do you mean

[stable cape]

my multiplier says it is at 200% all the time, even when i equip my 175% more crit multiplier

and ive seen online that the number does go up

[wicked plover]

your spear has melee crit multi
not general crit multi

so that crit multi from spear wouldnt apply to crits from spells for example

[surreal verge]

What's your source of crit multi?

[wicked plover]

see the spear above

[wicked plover]

this is global crit multi

[stable cape]

does it not say anywhere what my specific multipliers are?

[surreal verge]

Oh, then no.
That line shows generic crit multi.

[surreal verge]

If it's not listed, then you gotta pen and paper it

[wicked plover]

i dont know if there is one for melee crit multi
but you see on the left how you have melee crit chance and spell crit chance?

same distinction

[stable cape]

so, they are listing different crit chances but not the multipliers as well?

[wicked plover]

yea stat sheet needs some work ^^

[surreal verge]

Correct.
To be fair, specific crit multi mostly appears in skills.

[tepid mist]

Someone please correct me if I have this wrong: +Fire Damage would apply to all sources, +Melee Fire Damage would apply only to melee skills, and +Spell Fire Damage would only apply to spells?

[wicked plover]

correct

[surreal verge]

Correct

[stable cape]

same as with the different damage tipes - they have all of the different resist listed, but i cant find numbers for different base damage tipes

[wicked plover]

they show you % increase for each dmg type, but base dmg isnt there, it also depends on which skill it would be calculated on etc
they have skill specific stat sheets on their to-do list at some point

but for now thats what we have

[surreal verge]

The latter has one issue:
Each skill has their own damage effectiveness.

[stable cape]

it took me some time to figure why my Fury Leap when from like 1500 damage to 8000 damage from jus one weapon swich. the 'secret' was in it damage effectiveness of 250%

[surreal verge]

I DO hope you're not trusting tooltip DPS.

[stable cape]

but for a longest time i was under the opinion that my increas lightning damage is doing stuff only to find out that it probably isnt (i dont know if i have alocated any basse lightning damage anywehre),

im not

[surreal verge]

[stable cape]

at some point in went to 20 000 or something 😄

im just taking it as a indication that something is changing

i hope that at some point they add a listing of all basse damage tipes that one is doing (fire, cold, phyical, etc.) it would make navigating throug the numbers much easier (in my opinion at least)

[wicked plover]

https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1123697853882187847

[sinful vine]

Is there a mercy roll system for afflictions or is it true random? Occasionally I get times where I swipe like 6 times on 40% chill and don't get a stack o.O

[tepid mist]

Do "Freeze Rates" become irrelevant at high corruption due to enemies having such high HP pools? I'm trying to plan a freeze build for high corruption farming in Hardcore mode.

[wicked plover]

no, 40% is 40%

[surreal verge]

True random.

[surreal verge]

In theory, pretty much.
Mostly applicable for bosses tho, normal mobs can still be freezed with enougn effort.

[tepid mist]

I'm just wondering how high you can go before it becomes ineffective

[wicked plover]

with the upcoming corruption changes i doubt you will push high enough to make your freeze irrelevant

[tepid mist]

I suppose it could be calculated, using the formula.

[tepid mist]

What changes? Sorry, I'm very new to the game if you couldn't tell haha

Haven't even reached endgame yet

[wicked plover]

currently the biggest difficulty increase you have are mods from monos and not the corruption increase itself

they are changing it so the bigger portion of difficulty increase comes from corruption

[tepid mist]

Ahhh ok, I see

[knotty sedge]

I feel the same way. It's a pity that Grim Dawn didn't promote the multiplayer, ladder, etc...

[amber viper]

Has there been any word if you should completely reinstall last epoch when 1.0 launches similar to some other early access titles?

[wicked plover]

no reinstall, just big patch

[amber viper]

nice

[fierce patio]

can i play on same character after 1.0 ? does it reset? can i level up now and continue on same character after 1.0?

[wicked plover]

https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1187326924754788362

[fierce patio]

yes

oh so its better to wait for 1.0 to start playing

[wicked plover]

you can start a character now and play it after 1.0 with all the new stuff

[fierce patio]

but not on cycle

[wicked plover]

if you want to play in the cycle, you will have to create a char after 1.0
cycle currently only means leaderboards

thats the only difference

[fierce patio]

i dont care about that

[wicked plover]

then it doesnt matter

you can start right now

[fierce patio]

nice

[tepid mist]

Oh this is good to know. I could care less about leaderboards, so I may play my current character on legacy when 1.0 comes out, since I'd like to keep playing it since I'm only level 40ish so far. This way I won't have to start over for literally zero reason.

[wicked plover]

yeap

[glad fractal]

Q) Newbie here. How can I understand scaling on Acid Flask ? (and other abilities). The in-game guide doesn't help and online I only found this: https://www.lastepochtools.com/skills/acid_flask

[tepid mist]

I'm assuming they will have cycle specific content/features in the future though? Other than leaderboards

[wicked plover]

hover over the skill on your skill bar or in the skill tree, it will show tags below, those are the things the skill will scale with

[tepid mist]

Literally right there on the info

[wicked plover]

yes they will, but the first few cycles will mostly be additions to the base game, thats why they dont differentiate

[glad fractal]

I understand that, but, I want to decide of "increasespoison dmg" is better than "increase throwing attack" or "dexterity"

[tepid mist]

THIS is the way to go as for developing your game.....ADD TO THE BASE FIRST. Unlike D4 that did it fuckin backwards, and that's why thier game sucks

[glad fractal]

Is there a way (in-game or online), where I can precisely see how the dmg shown on my skill hotbar is actually broken down/calculated?

[tepid mist]

So you're asking which one scales more than the others? That I don't know haha I'm brand new

[wicked plover]

there is no skill specific stat sheet currently

there are no different factors for each scaling type

% increase is the same, no matter if physical poison or fire

as an example

the on hit is physical
and you also apply poison, so it depends what you want to scale

and how you put your skillpoints in

[glad fractal]

In your example, what would a single tick of Poison dmg be? It can't be 12 (because thats physical)...

[tepid mist]

You have to look at the Poisen ailment, this is a good source for info: https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/

[surreal verge]

Whatever the base poison is.

[tepid mist]

Poison base is 28

[visual swallow]

guys as soon as the release comes out on february 21st will the player levels be reset?

[surreal verge]

https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1187326924754788362

[visual swallow]

thanks

[sour otter]

Are there major differences in campaign between heroes?

[surreal verge]

No, except the opening cutscene

[tepid mist]

Anyone know how this would be calculated? Flame Ward has 3 second base duration.

If I put 3 points in

and 2 points in

What would the resulting duration be?

3 sec. x .36 (from Dilation) = 1.08 + 3 = 4.08 after Dilation

then 4.08 x .2 (from Conc. Shield) = .816.

4.08 - .816 = 3.264 seconds final duration?

How do we know which one gets calculated first? Or are they both based off the base duration?

[surreal verge]

Since they're the same exact thing, it goes:
Base 100% duration + (12x3)% - (10x2)% , then the actual duration's calculated.

[tepid mist]

This would be straight DR from ALL "hits" correct? So everything but DoTs?

[dusky kite]

yes

[stable cape]

could anyone help me with a inquary:

here is a thing: if i take point 1 and point 2 from the swipe skill, and then take point 3 from the bear one, will the bear applie Aspect of the Panter ti itself and the sabertooth?

[polar depot]

How do i unlock this?

[toxic echo]

you dont. thats there because you picked a different mastery

[polar depot]

oh shit

[toxic echo]

you only get your mastery's full tree, and the left half of the other two

[polar depot]

damn i messed up then

[toxic echo]

unfortunate. gotta either reroll or pick a different build

cant undo mastery change

[dusky kite]

Haven't tested this in-game but I doubt that the bear could apply the aspect to your saber cause it's not the bear's companion. But the bear should apply it to itself.

[stable cape]

thats what i figured out as well, but since i dont have a place to acually see it... thx for the answer

[polar depot]

can you skip the campaign if youve finished it once?

anything like that?

[steel merlin]

nope

you can use dungeons to bypass some acts

[toxic echo]

but you still need to do a good portion of the story to get passives and idols

[steel merlin]

and you can get stupid good leveling items for future characters

[distant compass]

does dragorath's claw dagger use lightning blast tree?

[coarse grotto]

regarding blessings, can i roll a higher roll of the same one i have equipped while repeating the quest or do i only get options from ones i don't use?

[toxic echo]

if its spec'd, yes

[surreal verge]

Yes you can, but RNG's a bitch